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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Occam on April 25, 2022, 04:32:17 PM

Title: Elon Bought Twitter- X GON GIVE IT TO YA
Post by: Occam on April 25, 2022, 04:32:17 PM
Thankfully there is an open source alternative: Mastodon
Global social networks should not be owned by individuals, corporations or governments.

Mastodon just got an Android version 5 days ago:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.joinmastodon.android&gl=US

For those of us who don't use Google accounts, download Aurora Store using F-Droid and then open the link above with Aurora Store.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on April 25, 2022, 04:46:48 PM
Can't abandon it if you've never bothered to engage with it.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on April 25, 2022, 04:50:25 PM
It took me 7 years to crawl my way up to 207 followers I'm not leaving the like mine any time soon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on April 25, 2022, 04:53:05 PM
Global social networks should not be owned by individuals, corporations or governments.
So who are you imagining owning them?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on April 25, 2022, 04:58:03 PM
Ideally, nobody.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Lonewulfeus on April 25, 2022, 05:05:01 PM
Can't abandon it if you've never bothered to engage with it.

:hesright
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: bork on April 25, 2022, 05:09:44 PM
Thankfully there is an open source alternative: Mastodon

 :crowdlaff :girlaff
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on April 25, 2022, 05:11:43 PM
Some more info regarding Mastodon:
https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/technology/mastodon-the-open-source-alternative-to-twitter-now-has-an-official-android-app-8383101.html

It's still rather small compared to Twitter (4.4 million users versus Twitter's 217 million), but I assume Twitters new ownership may cause a few people to give it a try.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: bork on April 25, 2022, 05:13:44 PM
Some more info regarding Mastodon:
https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/technology/mastodon-the-open-source-alternative-to-twitter-now-has-an-official-android-app-8383101.html

It's still rather small compared to Twitter (4.4 million users versus Twitter's 217 million), but I assume Twitters new ownership may cause a few people to give it a try.

I can see a few trying it and then going right back to Twitter.  It's not going anywhere.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: bork on April 25, 2022, 05:15:16 PM
Discord is trending right now (at least on my feed) as the suggested alternative to Twitter.

LOL- that's not going to work at all for most folks.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on April 25, 2022, 05:21:55 PM
Is there something a bit like Mastodon but not for neckbeards?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on April 25, 2022, 05:32:38 PM
Thankfully there is an open source alternative: Mastodon

 :crowdlaff :girlaff

Signal (messenger) started out small, too. When I started using it about 5 years ago, I was the only one among my contacts who had it, now about half do (including virtually all of my friends and family). Last year, Signal reached 40 million monthly active users.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on April 25, 2022, 05:35:31 PM
Discord is trending right now

The fucking lengths shosta will go to holy shit
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on April 25, 2022, 05:43:25 PM
Abandon centralised social media platforms.

It's time to go back to message boards.

Imagine letting billionaires/China/"the algorithm" police what you can and can't post.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on April 25, 2022, 05:53:11 PM
It's been long past time. I bailed two years ago when the writing on the wall couldn't get anymore obvious.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on April 25, 2022, 06:01:37 PM
Abandon centralised social media platforms.

It's time to go back to message boards.

Imagine letting billionaires/China/"the algorithm" police what you can and can't post.

Mastodon is decentralized. It seems to be the largest open source alternative to twitter at present.
If there are better alternatives, I wouldn't mind checking them out.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on April 25, 2022, 06:03:20 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet

yr welcome
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on April 25, 2022, 06:04:34 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet

yr welcome

>not for neckbeards
>usenet
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on April 25, 2022, 06:23:48 PM
Interesting, Vice reports Mastodon's website went down today because of the increased interest. They are also recommending it as "The most obvious Twitter replacement".
https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjbqjd/if-you-want-to-leave-twitter-because-of-elon-musk-these-are-your-options
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on April 25, 2022, 06:34:04 PM
This reaction from the blue tick twatteratti and their sycophants is fucking hilarious. The place is a cesspool BECAUSE of the blue tick wankers. Grow the fuck up you manchildren.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on April 25, 2022, 06:45:01 PM
I've come to the conclusion social media is a net loss for humanity and we're better off without it.  :donot :whatisthis
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on April 25, 2022, 06:53:57 PM
Mastodon is actually good in concept in terms of protecting free speech because it's decentralized

when Gab went to Mastodon there was nothing anyone could do to stop them, other than some of the bigger nodes blocking them to try to cordon them off, because anyone can spin up their own server and join the fediverse

it's social media where you can only get banned from your chosen entry node and its particular moderators

if it started seeing more broad adoption you would see all kinds of smaller narrow interest nodes of varying purposes and beliefs, there'd be the Marvel fan instance and the Star Wars fan instance and the Joe Rogan fan instance, not unlike subreddits, but without admins over all

:rejoice
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on April 25, 2022, 07:10:39 PM
https://twitter.com/AnandWrites/status/1518681666633486341
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on April 25, 2022, 07:16:00 PM
I knew fucking disney was involved somehow (https://i.imgur.com/PA0k1uk.png)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on April 25, 2022, 08:09:45 PM
https://twitter.com/AnandWrites/status/1518681666633486341

While I don’t disagree with that... is she aware that Twitter was already at service of plutocrats? Is just that Musk is an outright twitter addict and shit poster rather than indifferent of his product.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on April 25, 2022, 10:02:56 PM
https://twitter.com/kim/status/1518685891509714944
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on April 25, 2022, 10:12:46 PM
Mastodon is actually good in concept in terms of protecting free speech because it's decentralized

when Gab went to Mastodon there was nothing anyone could do to stop them, other than some of the bigger nodes blocking them to try to cordon them off, because anyone can spin up their own server and join the fediverse

it's social media where you can only get banned from your chosen entry node and its particular moderators

if it started seeing more broad adoption you would see all kinds of smaller narrow interest nodes of varying purposes and beliefs, there'd be the Marvel fan instance and the Star Wars fan instance and the Joe Rogan fan instance, not unlike subreddits, but without admins over all

:rejoice
I've been reading this is bad because it doesn't allow Mutual Aid Requests and things like #TransCrowFund to trend meaning that marginalized people will not even be able to live now that Musk has destroyed Twitter.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: OnlyRegret on April 25, 2022, 10:37:34 PM
meme man bought the asylum

I've come to the conclusion social media is a net loss for humanity and we're better off without it.  :donot :whatisthis

probably
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on April 25, 2022, 11:38:12 PM
Quote
Mar 2022 Summary
Tweets
292
Tweet impressions
108K

Profile visits
2,860
Mentions
380
New followers
5

 :snob
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on April 26, 2022, 12:26:49 AM
There is no benefit in allowing destructive lies to be repeated on a large stage over and over again. This just allows them to infect more minds which in turn paves the way for a fascist takeover. And fascists invariably do away with your freedom of speech completely the first chance they get, because it's the only way they can retain control.
Democracy and uncontested lies can't coexist, as Trumpism should have made abundantly clear to anyone paying attention.
By pretending that lies are a valid opinion (the other side of reality and just as acceptable), the American media enabled Trump and everything that follows. Reality does not have two sides.
Twitter's banning Trump and for instance those who spread misinformation about vaccines (which results in actual deaths) was a belated step in the right direction that is seemingly about to be undone.

Musk now graduates from infantile trolling to actually being harmful to the free world, enabling (would be) autocrats everywhere. Musk is no genius, he has never invented anything in his life. He just repackages inventions of others and markets them. He is a savvy businessman.
Musk's lithium battery powered cars are a net negative for the environment. Furthermore, there is not enough lithium on the planet to replace all combustion powered personal transportation. The actual way to go are hydrogen fuel cells. Not realizing this makes Musk an idiot in his heart of hearts.
Musk basically is a stupid person's idea of a genius, much like Trump is a stupid person's idea of a rich man. Everything about him and his past is based on misrepresentation, from his fake hair to the origin of his money (his father's African emerald mines). And no, he didn't invent Paypal, either. When you think about it, it's really not surprising Musk is so fond of liars. And make no mistake, he couldn't care less about free speech. On Twitter, he regularly blocked critics. He just wants unfettered speech for himself.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on April 26, 2022, 12:50:53 AM
There is no benefit in allowing destructive lies to be repeated on a large stage over and over again. This just allows them to infect more minds which in turn paves the way for a fascist takeover. And fascists invariably do away with your freedom of speech completely the first chance they get, because it's the only way they can retain control.
Democracy and uncontested lies can't coexist, as Trumpism should have made abundantly clear to anyone paying attention.
It's simple. We, uh, kill the Batman outlaw lies.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on April 26, 2022, 03:08:49 AM
https://twitter.com/jack/status/1510314535671922689

 :hesright

https://twitter.com/JeffBezos/status/1518734031566778368

 :hesright

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1410413958805270533

 :hesright
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on April 26, 2022, 05:40:56 AM
“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”

― Isaac Asimov
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on April 26, 2022, 06:21:25 AM
https://twitter.com/cmdsinnamon/status/1518804712631554048
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on April 26, 2022, 07:29:00 AM
Man there was a time I used to really respect Jack Dorsey. Those days are long gone.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on April 26, 2022, 07:30:29 AM
https://twitter.com/WSBChairman/status/1518609243963854852
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: VomKriege on April 26, 2022, 08:08:17 AM
Another invasion no one wanted to believe would happen.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: VomKriege on April 26, 2022, 08:09:11 AM
What if Evilore's mercurial, petty management of GAF but global ?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: headwalk on April 26, 2022, 08:59:29 AM
people who have made it their business to have every Hot Take of the last decade intravenously fed to them now telling the rest of us that we need to get off an eternal garbage site that we do our very best to ignore is wonderful.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on April 26, 2022, 10:18:28 AM
I wish nintex was here to grace us with his take on this :fbm
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on April 26, 2022, 01:41:26 PM
The entier bore userbase moved to mastadon, you did it occam

(https://i.imgur.com/6F5O6G8.png)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on April 26, 2022, 02:33:53 PM
Great success, world saved!

(I was one of those approx. 41,287. While I wasn't a Twitter user, I felt the need to cast my vote against Musk.)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Lonewulfeus on April 26, 2022, 02:38:08 PM
You don’t even use the platform and you’re trying to rally people to leave it?  :era
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on April 26, 2022, 02:51:08 PM
Why would I? Twitter is a cesspool. That doesn't mean I don't see its importance as a global tool of communication that is used by most politicians/states/companies/organizations/institutions/scientists/celebrities and so on. It's practically impossible to avoid if you read the news.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on April 26, 2022, 03:05:59 PM
Half of forum content is basically posting tweets you can't escape it
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 26, 2022, 03:09:02 PM
Half of forum content is basically posting tweets you can't escape it

Not since Nintex left.  This place actually loads now without jumping place after a few seconds. 
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Lonewulfeus on April 26, 2022, 03:20:36 PM
Why would I? Twitter is a cesspool. That doesn't mean I don't see its importance as a global tool of communication that is used by most politicians/states/companies/organizations/institutions/scientists/celebrities and so on. It's practically impossible to avoid if you read the news.

I just don’t understand your dog in this fight.  If you don’t have an account, I don’t either, Elon Musk buying Twitter should mean almost nothing to you.  Is it probably going to turn out to be a net negative, yea probably.  But just like Facebook trying to force people off the platform as an outsider is a waste of time.  Shouting into the void that is thebore.com and the entirely unaffiliated bore discord, I assume, just feels disingenuous at best and :ego at worst.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on April 26, 2022, 03:22:23 PM
Half of forum content is basically posting tweets you can't escape it

I only post text I steal from discords
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on April 26, 2022, 04:31:23 PM
I just don’t understand your dog in this fight.

Too much right-wing authoritarianism/reality denial in this world as it is. No need to enable any more of it to further hasten the destruction of our habitat, curtail freedom and erode democracy.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on April 26, 2022, 04:41:12 PM
I just don’t understand your dog in this fight.

Too much right-wing authoritarianism/reality denial in this world as it is. No need to enable any more of it to further hasten the destruction of our habitat, curtail freedom and erode democracy.
Yeah, imagine if someone were to tweet any criticism of an invasion without Congressional approval of a sovereign nation in order to permanently occupy their natural resources. :existential
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on April 26, 2022, 05:03:03 PM
Has anyone posted this thread in the shitbin thread? This seems like something that belongs there.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on April 26, 2022, 05:29:02 PM
The world is how you make it.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on April 26, 2022, 05:55:36 PM
Has anyone posted this thread in the shitbin thread? This seems like something that belongs there.
You sound like a butthurt freeze peach chud angry that everyone is leaving Muskrat's Folly.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on April 26, 2022, 06:21:57 PM
Has anyone posted this thread in the shitbin thread? This seems like something that belongs there.
You sound like a butthurt freeze peach chud angry that everyone is leaving Muskrat's Folly.
My butt hurts, but it's probably the hemorrhoids.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on April 26, 2022, 06:42:27 PM
The world is how you make it.

this is at odds:

Quote
By pretending that lies are a valid opinion (the other side of reality and just as acceptable), the American media enabled Trump and everything that follows. Reality does not have two sides.

either the world is what it is and facts are unchanging regardless of what we want, or our desires are able to shape reality and change what is true
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tuckers Law on April 26, 2022, 06:46:24 PM
Musk haters might be upset now with his purchase of Twitter, but just you wait.  You'll all come back into the fold when Elon brings the MiiVerse back from the dead. 
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on April 27, 2022, 01:06:29 AM
The world is how you make it.

this is at odds:

Quote
By pretending that lies are a valid opinion (the other side of reality and just as acceptable), the American media enabled Trump and everything that follows. Reality does not have two sides.

either the world is what it is and facts are unchanging regardless of what we want, or our desires are able to shape reality and change what is true

Our world is what we make of it. While we cannot change the nature of reality, we obviously have the ability to change our world. We can either make it a great place and live in harmony with nature and each other, or we can allow poison to flow (literally and figuratively) and make the world (more) poisonous.

Which is what is about to happen to Twitter thanks to an obscene manchild who couldn't take criticism.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on April 27, 2022, 01:15:41 AM
https://twitter.com/cabot_phillips/status/1518790478589841408

 :hmm
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on April 27, 2022, 01:36:39 AM
https://twitter.com/joinmastodon/status/1519157267857293312

Mastodon seems to be talked about now more than ever before.

https://www.engadget.com/twitter-alternative-mastodon-open-source-021001965.html
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Mostima on April 27, 2022, 02:23:33 AM
And probably at least half of that 42k are still on Twitter.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on April 27, 2022, 02:35:26 AM
https://twitter.com/joinmastodon/status/1519157267857293312 (https://twitter.com/joinmastodon/status/1519157267857293312)

Mastodon seems to be talked about now more than ever before.

https://www.engadget.com/twitter-alternative-mastodon-open-source-021001965.html (https://www.engadget.com/twitter-alternative-mastodon-open-source-021001965.html)

And probably at least half of that 42k are still on Twitter.
This reminds me of Google talking about signups to Google+

Everyone still remained on Facebook and just hedged their bets.

We know how that turned out.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: VomKriege on April 27, 2022, 06:46:22 AM
I mostly expect a bunch of stupid (though sadly not necessarily benign) stunts.
He'll make a lot of weird noises but I'd think the most pressing priority for actual policy changes will be geared to making the service more profitable or shore up the stock price. I might be wrong though, Musk is unpredictable. But even if one wished it you can't turn Twitter into 8kun, there's a bunch of legal compliance and strings attached with a variety of national regulators that come with being a global billion valued corporation.

At the end of the day it's the Trump Discussion© of "is it fundamentally different because the plutocrat also happen to be a rude volatile weirdo asshole ?"
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on April 27, 2022, 07:08:09 AM
https://twitter.com/joinmastodon/status/1519157267857293312 (https://twitter.com/joinmastodon/status/1519157267857293312)

Mastodon seems to be talked about now more than ever before.

https://www.engadget.com/twitter-alternative-mastodon-open-source-021001965.html (https://www.engadget.com/twitter-alternative-mastodon-open-source-021001965.html)

And probably at least half of that 42k are still on Twitter.
This reminds me of Google talking about signups to Google+

Everyone still remained on Facebook and just hedged their bets.

We know how that turned out.

occam decimated
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on April 27, 2022, 07:39:00 AM
The world is how you make it.

this is at odds:

Quote
By pretending that lies are a valid opinion (the other side of reality and just as acceptable), the American media enabled Trump and everything that follows. Reality does not have two sides.

either the world is what it is and facts are unchanging regardless of what we want, or our desires are able to shape reality and change what is true

Our world is what we make of it. While we cannot change the nature of reality, we obviously have the ability to change our world. We can either make it a great place and live in harmony with nature and each other, or we can allow poison to flow (literally and figuratively) and make the world (more) poisonous.

Which is what is about to happen to Twitter thanks to an obscene manchild who couldn't take criticism.

but you say this as if that which is harmonious or poisonous can be held up to some objective standard, rather than being highly contentious every step of the way, and not necessarily even in the "bad people obviously lying through their teeth" sense, I mean real people with measured opinions and valid arguments for why they might believe what they believe and act the way they do, which may run counter to yours



let's say there's an alternate universe where someone buys twitter only to shut it down immediately, because they believe it's only been a tool for negativity overall (and they naively think that no other platform would rise to fill the gap)

does that contribute to making the world a great harmonious place, or contribute to making the world more poisonous?

you could argue that this immediately makes the world a better place because there are so many rubbish elements on twitter, lots of bad actors who should never have been given a voice, too many toxic elements to suffer its ongoing existence, and its short take format contributes to the erosion of having well-rounded, properly considered ideas as a species

but from other perspectives you could argue that twitter has been a tremendous source for good, in holding people accountable for bad behavior (#metoo), and for allowing marginalized people to organize, bond and make their voices heard, not to mention a free source of globe-reaching advertisement among like-minded people, allowing beneficial alternative media to flourish, now simply snapped out of existence

you could argue that eliminating a nexus where that voice was traditionally louder than others contributes to poisonous elements being allowed to become louder by comparison in other global communication tools

so regarding this particular alternate universe decision, is it a net good or bad to immediately shut twitter down? and in the wake of this, what makes a person so confident or arrogant that they could think they have truly considered all perspectives and eventualities, and arrived at the one, True conclusion?


that's just one example, the point is that any given decision for "what must be done about twitter" can be rationalized one way or the other, and any given perspective on it might end up more or less accurate reflected in the end results

things are not as black and white as you paint them, nor is any given possible change to the platform already a foregone conclusion



I'm no Musk fanboy but in the wake of all this it makes a person want to attempt to learn a few things, and so I googled "is Elon Musk a Trump supporter," and discovered that at least ostensibly he was a supporter of Yang Gang and universal basic income, and rebuked Trump for leaving the Paris Accord because he strongly believes climate change is real and a problem that needs to be tackled

could all this be a lie just to sway popular opinion to his side? sure, but simply saying these things is enough of an actual stance to upset tons of people who would disagree, so I don't know if it makes sense to say these are just crowd-pleasing statements (because everybody loved Yang, right)

you could argue that his actions don't reflect a belief in these things, but then you could also argue that like any of us, even an incredibly rich man is constrained by the society he finds himself forced to take part in, so of course you're going to find lots of examples where these things don't always line up



I just think it's silly to frame this as "this is obvious bad thing done by obvious bad man which will have obvious bad consequences"

everything will have consequences which some rationalize as good and others rationalize as bad, and sometimes they're both a bit wrong in the grand scheme
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on April 27, 2022, 07:40:14 AM
 :snore
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on April 27, 2022, 08:00:58 AM
I just think it's silly to frame this as "this is obvious bad thing done by obvious bad man which will have obvious bad consequences"

everything will have consequences which some rationalize as good and others rationalize as bad, and sometimes they're both a bit wrong in the grand scheme
lmao dudes will literally "both sides" capitalism instead of just ending it and finally liberating people to have true free speech and democracy
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on April 27, 2022, 08:07:05 AM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1519179787163652099

Buy tiktok bro
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on April 27, 2022, 08:15:32 AM
https://twitter.com/geraldstratfor3/status/1519231125171879936
https://twitter.com/geraldstratfor3/status/1519232744567541760
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on April 27, 2022, 08:46:11 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FRQWpJpXoAAbZx4?format=jpg&name=small)

 :hmm
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on April 27, 2022, 08:51:34 AM
https://twitter.com/sandibachom/status/1518673575053561856
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on April 27, 2022, 08:53:48 AM
either the world is what it is and facts are unchanging regardless of what we want, or our desires are able to shape reality and change what is true

 :shaking

Shut up and download Libre Office, scrub. It's the only way we'll beat Muskrat and the Nazis.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on April 27, 2022, 09:08:53 AM
https://twitter.com/i_zzzzzz/status/1518727355702808578
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on April 27, 2022, 09:13:20 AM
https://twitter.com/NaimHalawi/status/1518625127629574145
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on April 27, 2022, 09:47:10 AM
man if musk gets rid of that stupid pop up about joining he will have won.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on April 27, 2022, 09:58:40 AM
man if musk gets rid of that stupid pop up about joining he will have won.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/breakthrough-twitter-logi/ohhifopcgokjpbnppnmjbdnjnfcfnlep
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on April 27, 2022, 09:59:44 AM
man if musk gets rid of that stupid pop up about joining he will have won.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/breakthrough-twitter-logi/ohhifopcgokjpbnppnmjbdnjnfcfnlep

How do I gift you a neogaf gold membership?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on April 27, 2022, 10:30:59 AM
https://twitter.com/cabot_phillips/status/1518790478589841408

 :hmm

Seeing journalists, mostly lib ones in this case, freak out because they realized hey maybe building your brand entirely around a for-profit social network isn't the best strategy has been schadenfreude-tastic.

Hey idiots, maybe if the news didn't constantly shove Twitter in our faces maybe it wouldn't have as much sway over society. :thinking
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on April 27, 2022, 11:07:42 AM
Seeing journalists, mostly lib ones in this case, freak out because they realized hey maybe building your brand entirely around a for-profit social network isn't the best strategy has been schadenfreude-tastic.

Hey idiots, maybe if the news didn't constantly shove Twitter in our faces maybe it wouldn't have as much sway over society. :thinking

and again, for those in the back:

22% of american adults use twitter (https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2019/04/24/sizing-up-twitter-users/) but 25% of twitter users produce 97% of all tweets (https://www.socialmediatoday.com/news/new-study-shows-that-25-of-twitter-users-produce-97-of-all-tweets/610146/)

so this means about 5% of people are the ones producing all the content, the hot takes, the retweets, glorifying or rebuking brands, all of it

yet it often feels like every news show or story will somewhere reference some tweet someone made, as if it's where all conversation is taking place, or as if it represents an accurate cross section of the general public
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Trent Dole on April 27, 2022, 12:30:59 PM
Do I get unsuspended then?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: VomKriege on April 27, 2022, 12:32:45 PM
Honestly 5% of the population is better than I expected.

Also wonder about the chances of the deal not going through for some reason.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1519179787163652099

OK ?

Do I get unsuspended then?

Do you have a Tesla ?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on April 27, 2022, 12:56:53 PM
I think the corp media are mostly upset because they probably won't be able to play their "if we whine about this person enough twitter and everyone else will ban them" card anymore (whether this person deserves it or not).
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on April 27, 2022, 01:00:09 PM

OK ?


Yup!
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: VomKriege on April 27, 2022, 01:07:54 PM
Seems a little weird to disparage the company you just bought on the basis of an obscure, mysterious metric that have a couple of really mundane common sense explanations.

Like Truth being still in launch and early adoption mode versus a years old app that may be even pre-installed on a non trivial number of phones.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: VomKriege on April 27, 2022, 01:11:08 PM
Not ruling out it's a galaxy brain level scheme of some sort by Musk.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on April 27, 2022, 01:33:26 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FRS3LQCX0AAu8gU?format=jpg)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on April 27, 2022, 01:37:53 PM
Seems a little weird to disparage the company you just bought on the basis of an obscure, mysterious metric that have a couple of really mundane common sense explanations.

Like Truth being still in launch and early adoption mode versus a years old app that may be even pre-installed on a non trivial number of phones.

Why is it weird?  It's refreshing to have an owner of a company not be a blind cheerleader about the deficiencies of their products.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on April 27, 2022, 02:51:49 PM
Insightful article, good summary:
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/26/business/twitter-elon-musk-board.html
spoiler (click to show/hide)

Elon Musk to Buy Twitter

Common sense
Selling Twitter to Elon Musk Is Good for Investors. What About the Public?

The company’s decision to sell seems to have been based purely on the financials, with little if any regard for other stakeholders.

By James B. Stewart
April 26, 2022

Twitter is “the digital town square, where matters vital to the future of humanity are debated,” a triumphant Elon Musk proclaimed in announcing his deal to buy the social media platform.

In other words, Twitter is no ordinary corporation. It serves as something akin to a public utility, a unique global means of communication.

So should Twitter be governed like a conventional public company, with a board of directors focused primarily on reaping the greatest amount of money possible for shareholders, with little regard to the interests of other groups?

In the eyes of some influential business and legal experts, the answer is no. The company’s directors should have also evaluated the qualifications of Mr. Musk to serve as a responsible steward for a vital public communications channel — and, based on the public comments made by Twitter’s board of directors, there is no evidence that it did so.

“The board should have considered the interest of stakeholders like employees and users in evaluating the long-term value of the company,” said Lenore Palladino, associate professor of economics at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst, and a fellow at the progressive Roosevelt Institute in New York.

Mr. Musk is a polarizing figure. He is a world-changing entrepreneur, responsible for companies, like PayPal and Tesla, that have revolutionized enormous industries. He has used his considerable influence — he has 85 million Twitter followers — to inveigh against what he sees as a censorious liberal culture in technology and media.

He is also at times reckless and capricious — traits that have landed him in trouble with federal regulators and on the receiving end of a defamation lawsuit, among other troubles. Just last week, he mocked Bill Gates’s beer belly after the Microsoft co-founder was said to have bet against Tesla’s stock price.

The question is whether any of that actually or should have factored into the decision by Twitter’s board of directors to sell the company to Mr. Musk.

In recent decades American corporations and their boards have operated under a legal doctrine known as “shareholder primacy,” which posits that corporate boards should focus on a single goal, which is maximizing returns to shareholders.

Bret Taylor, Twitter’s chairman, hewed closely to that doctrine on Monday when he said that the board had evaluated Mr. Musk’s offer by focusing on “value, certainty and financing” and that the deal would deliver a “substantial cash premium.”

He might as well have been talking about a tool-and-die manufacturer.

There wasn’t even lip service paid to Twitter’s other stakeholders — its users, employees and advertisers, to name a few — or its profound importance to public discourse. It’s unclear whether the board members, in what appears to have been a whirlwind weekend of deliberations, even touched on these topics.

Under current law, mostly established by Delaware courts, boards have “the discretion but not the obligation” to consider the interests of people other than their investors, said Jill Fisch, a professor of business law at the University of Pennsylvania Carey Law School. But few, if any, have exercised that discretion, she said.

In recent years, this shareholder primacy model has come under attack from critics who contend it has enriched shareholders at the expense of just about everything and everyone else: workers, customers, innovation, the planet.

“Corporate leaders and practitioners have been increasingly pledging to pay close attention to the interests of stakeholders, such as customers or society in the case of Twitter, and not only shareholders,” said Lucian Bebchuk, a professor at Harvard Law School. Even so, a study of more than 100 recent $1 billion-plus deals that Mr. Bebchuk recently completed found that there had been little impact, with “large gains” for shareholders and corporate leaders and little or nothing for other constituencies.

The Twitter situation shows how “we need to fundamentally change the approach to corporate governance,” said Ms. Palladino, the Massachusetts professor.

Mr. Musk has said he isn’t buying Twitter to make money (even as he claims that he has plans to “unlock” the company’s potential). That is arguably cause for concern. Public shareholders, like any other owner seeking to maximize profits, have a financial incentive to attract and maintain the broadest number of users. That means management needs to bar extremists, in order to avoid offending or driving away many more users, while seeking to prohibit as few others as possible, in order to increase the platform’s value to advertisers.

On the other hand, it leaves the company’s management hostage to the whims of Wall Street, whose interests may not be well aligned with those of the broader public.

Since his takeover bid became public earlier this month, Mr. Musk has been talking up his plans to promote Twitter as a bastion of free speech. On Monday, he said he hoped that “even my worst critics remain on Twitter, because that is what free speech means.”

While Mr. Musk’s public comments so far have been soothing to champions of free expression, especially those on the right who claim that Big Tech has silenced conservative viewpoints, there’s no guarantee that Mr. Musk will continue to espouse those broad-minded views once he’s in control.

Having forsworn the profit motive, Mr. Musk might not care whom he offends, either by welcoming extremists or by banning people who denounce him. This is a man who once called a rescue worker a “pedo guy” after the worker criticized Mr. Musk. He has been careful not to say where he would draw the line between free expression and hateful or violent speech, which Twitter’s existing management has, with a notably imperfect record, tried to curtail.

In one sense, it’s easy to sympathize with the eagerness of the Twitter board to get out of this hornet’s nest while enriching shareholders. Turning down a takeover offer at a premium to the company’s current share price would have been a recipe for litigation. Accepting the bid was the path of least resistance, and Ms. Fisch said it was unlikely to be successfully challenged in court or held up by federal regulators.

On the other hand, there’s far more at stake with Twitter than in a normal corporate transaction (though you could make a similar argument about CNN, whose parent company was acquired this month by Discovery Inc., or for that matter any other company that purportedly serves the public interest).

Perhaps Mr. Musk will prove a fine steward of the digital town square he will soon own; it’s certainly plausible that the board, if it had seriously considered the likelihood that Mr. Musk would meddle to suit his ideology or personal interests, would have concluded he was a relatively safe pair of hands. After all, it’s not as if Twitter, in its current cacophonous state, is some utopia of mild-mannered civic discourse.

But the board’s response to Mr. Musk need not have been based on any subjective evaluation of his character or motives.

As Ms. Palladino points out, the board could have taken the position that serving the public interest matters most to Twitter’s long-term value, and that selling Twitter to any single, private buyer wasn’t in the interests of anyone other than short-term speculators and Mr. Musk himself.
[close]
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on April 27, 2022, 03:35:14 PM
Quote
So should Twitter be governed like a conventional public company, with a board of directors focused primarily on reaping the greatest amount of money possible for shareholders, with little regard to the interests of other groups?

In the eyes of some influential business and legal experts, the answer is no. The company’s directors should have also evaluated the qualifications of Mr. Musk to serve as a responsible steward for a vital public communications channel — and, based on the public comments made by Twitter’s board of directors, there is no evidence that it did so.

Quote
Bret Taylor, Twitter’s chairman, hewed closely to that doctrine on Monday when he said that the board had evaluated Mr. Musk’s offer by focusing on “value, certainty and financing” and that the deal would deliver a “substantial cash premium.”

He might as well have been talking about a tool-and-die manufacturer.

ok, but

Quote
Mr. Musk has said he isn’t buying Twitter to make money (even as he claims that he has plans to “unlock” the company’s potential). That is arguably cause for concern. Public shareholders, like any other owner seeking to maximize profits, have a financial incentive to attract and maintain the broadest number of users. That means management needs to bar extremists, in order to avoid offending or driving away many more users, while seeking to prohibit as few others as possible, in order to increase the platform’s value to advertisers.

so the board evaluated his offer based purely on financial gain, which is bad, but musk says he's not interested in owning the platform for financial gain, which is also bad?

 :mindblown

imagine the exact opposite: musk's offer is a bad deal that loses the board a bunch of money, but they award him the platform anyway because they truly believe he'll be a good steward for it, and then musk says he can't wait to warp the platform into a moneymaking machine

one would think this would be an ideal result for the author of this article  :doggy


Quote
Since his takeover bid became public earlier this month, Mr. Musk has been talking up his plans to promote Twitter as a bastion of free speech. On Monday, he said he hoped that “even my worst critics remain on Twitter, because that is what free speech means.”

While Mr. Musk’s public comments so far have been soothing to champions of free expression, especially those on the right who claim that Big Tech has silenced conservative viewpoints, there’s no guarantee that Mr. Musk will continue to espouse those broad-minded views once he’s in control.

since when did this ever matter? there was never any guarantee that any given entity with controlling power over twitter would espouse those views or others

 :confused
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on April 27, 2022, 03:42:20 PM
puBLIC SquareE!
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on April 27, 2022, 03:45:53 PM
honestly it's an apt phrase

most people are too busy working, playing, enjoying their lives to mill around in the public square holding protest signs

(https://i.imgur.com/nxyVI38.png)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Himu on April 27, 2022, 03:55:32 PM
Good news and love seeing the liberal reaction to it. It's interesting to see the liberal overreaction. Even more interesting is how it becomes a political chess game overnight with the likes of Warren weighing in. Liberals of course are running to daddy government to censor or limit. In this case what has the left in shock is that they've lost a digital chess piece in the political arena, or so they think, hence the overreaction. Better to overreact than not react at all. Now that they can't limit you or give you a misinformation warning for sharing a Will Smith meme, they now view it as a political loss because this is how they motivate voters: with an echo chamber of fear and outrage.

Twitter is also where the Biden administration has been digging its claws in so they are scared of losing an avenue of power and influence. They have almost zero reason to react in this manner and their fears are mostly baseless but it's another opportunity to sell the "save our democracy" line that we've heard so much about the last seven years. Conservative viewpoints being more reasily seen means liberal viewpoints are no longer the default. This is a threat to their power in an age where they have near uniform control of the narrative.

Cue Pocahontas. She's fine Bezos owns WaPo but when Musk buys Twitter suddenly our democracy is in peril and we need to get the government involved. Liberals. Like clockwork, except it's an empty clock full of cobwebs.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-04-25/warren-calls-for-tougher-tech-regulation-after-musk-twitter-deal

Saudi Prince having a stake in Twitter, fine. Musk buys it and it's an existential threat.  Nevermind the other forces that owned stake in Twitter. But the Saudis make good allies despite being, well, Saudis. Oh and Vanguard. It's about control. That's why they're pissed. The every day liberal thinks it's about free speech or whatever. The higher up liberal knows it's about losing game space in the war of ideas. Liberals control and own tech. More conservative viewpoints (Musk isn't a conservative but these days anything right of Bernie Sanders is right wing so have at it) and libertarian viewpoints of the old internet means losing more game space. Liberal camp is fighting this on two fronts. The sheep are going one way but the politicians know it's about power. Hence, daddy government.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on April 27, 2022, 03:57:56 PM
I wish nintex was here to grace us with his take on this :fbm
It's actually pretty simple.
They can explain it to themselves however they like but Mr. Musk has owned the libs beautifully and will continue to own them in the weeks, months and perhaps even years ahead even on this very website. :trumps

That NYT word salad is just another fantasy brainfart of someone who hangs around Starbucks during the day and watches CNN on repeat at night.
Apparently missing the flamethrower sale, Elon's SNL skit about Peach cheating on Mario, him backing DOGE coin as the worlds new reserve currency and many other great endeavors of Mr. Musk.

Will he try to attract top billing talent that has recently left or was fired from Twitter Corp?

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1519367926708588545 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1519367926708588545)

I dunno
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Himu on April 27, 2022, 04:15:53 PM
Let's laugh at the libs and how pathetic they are.

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1518828430988435456

Preview for 2022 and 2024 election results? 👀
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tuckers Law on April 27, 2022, 05:09:06 PM
 :lucas
Damn.  If Musk buying Twitter can bring back Nintex, maybe he really can resurrect the MiiVerse
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on April 27, 2022, 05:35:23 PM
Considering Muskrat has promised to end anonymity on Twitter, at least European "conservatives" are going to start having a lot of fun with local law enforcement. That is, unless they continue to censor themselves.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on April 27, 2022, 05:49:54 PM
:lucas
Damn.  If Musk buying Twitter can bring back Nintex, maybe he really can resurrect the MiiVerse
It's like being a former crack addict and the Easter Psaki and Joe Biden are handing out free crack pipes on every block
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on April 27, 2022, 06:11:19 PM
Furthermore, the EU just passed the Digital Markets Act and the Digital Services Act, which will of course apply to Muskrat's Twitter, too.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on April 27, 2022, 06:19:38 PM
Who could have seen this coming? I for one am shocked.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/04/27/musk-twitter-attacks/?itid=mr_technology_1
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Himu on April 27, 2022, 06:28:04 PM
Oh no, people Elon doesn't control did something bad because he made very valid criticism!

LOL. Hyuuuuck
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on April 27, 2022, 07:00:46 PM
Twitter has never been the worst offender of all these social media things because you can't really create your own bubble like you can on Reddit/Facebook/Telegram etc. .
It's all public so even the comments below prolific Tweeters (be it left or right) end up in a free exchange of ideas so to speak. People on the fringe don't really get the traction or rather positive response they might expect.
Satire is often the most popular type of content on Twitter above all else. I think people forget that Gab was founded not because of Twitter censorship but because that particular brand of wankdad was just bullied away by the community.

The increased censorship and blue checks haven't really made things better over the years but arguably worse, much like ResetEra actually.
The biggest problems on Twitter are the spam/scam bots and government controlled actors (be it Russian, Iranian, American or Chinese) and they did fuck all against that.
Elon plans to verify all the humans.

Furthermore, the EU just passed the Digital Markets Act and the Digital Services Act, which will of course apply to Muskrat's Twitter, too.
In the end member states still need to set up government bodies and regulators to uphold these laws and pass them in their parliaments. Not to mention this act lines up with much of what Elon Musk wants:
Quote
the possibility to challenge platforms' content moderation decisions and seek redress, either via an out-of-court dispute mechanism or judicial redress;
i.e. no more shadow banning
Quote
transparency measures for online platforms on a variety of issues, including on the algorithms used for recommending content or products to users;
he wants to open source the algorithm.
Quote
New safeguards for the protection of minors and limits on the use of sensitive personal data for targeted advertising.
he wants to reduce the advertising

Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on April 27, 2022, 07:17:12 PM
Considering Muskrat has promised to end anonymity on Twitter, at least European "conservatives" are going to start having a lot of fun with local law enforcement. That is, unless they continue to censor themselves.

Verifying real person interaction is not the same as ending anonimiity.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on April 27, 2022, 07:32:57 PM
it doesn't make a whole lot of sense as even elon would see the value in bot-based posting when it's harmless or entertaining, like an AI generating goofy polls

https://twitter.com/WYR_bot/status/1519040337368555520

https://twitter.com/WYR_bot/status/1518903949645987840

or informative bots that automatically create tweets based on other feeds or data elsewhere

as he seems to revel in nerd things I don't see him ending the nerd fun of useful bots by forcing literally every user to tie themselves to a living being

it sounds like specifically he wants to get rid of artificially inflated follower counts or the more insidious/subversive legions of bots
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: VomKriege on April 27, 2022, 09:31:20 PM
https://www.reuters.com/breakingviews/elon-musk-probably-wont-buy-twitter-2022-04-27/ (https://www.reuters.com/breakingviews/elon-musk-probably-wont-buy-twitter-2022-04-27/)

It probably speaks more of people's projections than of new information about whether the deal will hold and go through in practice but  :doge
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on April 28, 2022, 02:55:54 AM
it doesn't make a whole lot of sense as even elon would see the value in bot-based posting when it's harmless or entertaining, like an AI generating goofy polls

https://twitter.com/WYR_bot/status/1519040337368555520

https://twitter.com/WYR_bot/status/1518903949645987840

or informative bots that automatically create tweets based on other feeds or data elsewhere

as he seems to revel in nerd things I don't see him ending the nerd fun of useful bots by forcing literally every user to tie themselves to a living being

it sounds like specifically he wants to get rid of artificially inflated follower counts or the more insidious/subversive legions of bots

He wants to ban the ElonJet bot without looking like he wants to ban the ElonJet bot
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: VomKriege on April 28, 2022, 06:21:43 AM
Twitter is releasing its quarterly results today but they cancelled the usual remarks from the board.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on April 28, 2022, 06:25:01 AM
He wants to ban the ElonJet bot without looking like he wants to ban the ElonJet bot

buys twitter, bans jetbot, immediately sells twitter back
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: VomKriege on April 28, 2022, 06:31:11 AM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1519495072802390016
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on April 28, 2022, 06:44:55 AM
That ship has long since sailed bruv :heh
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on April 28, 2022, 08:42:31 AM
I don't know the plane tracking thing is creepy as fuck.

Yes it's all public data, but like ew
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on April 28, 2022, 12:31:17 PM
Quite interesting. The day before yesterday Muskrat flew 296 miles in his private jet, from Austin to Brownsville.

Flight Fuel Info
~ 371 gallons (1686 liters).
~ 2,483 pds (1,126 kg) of jet fuel used.
~ $2,298 cost of fuel.
~ 4 tons of CO2 emissions.

Yeah, that man truly cares about the environment.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on April 28, 2022, 12:34:52 PM
should have taken a bus
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on April 28, 2022, 12:46:22 PM
 :curious
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on April 28, 2022, 12:57:26 PM
:curious

:society
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on April 28, 2022, 01:48:23 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1519735033950470144 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1519735033950470144)

 :trumps
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on April 28, 2022, 03:12:11 PM
The right didn't stay where they were, though. They moved to la-la land.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on April 28, 2022, 04:05:00 PM
Tesla stock...

-222.06 (-20.20%)
past month

lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: VomKriege on April 28, 2022, 04:23:39 PM
Not sure it's meaningful (beyond possibly indicating people have shaky confidence in it because of all the recent antics) or lasting though. Still higher than in Jan.2021. Famously people bet on shorting it for a while now and never really got their wish.

Tesla stocks deflating could be a blessing though.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on April 28, 2022, 04:24:29 PM
Quite interesting. The day before yesterday Muskrat flew 296 miles in his private jet, from Austin to Brownsville.

Flight Fuel Info
~ 371 gallons (1686 liters).
~ 2,483 pds (1,126 kg) of jet fuel used.
~ $2,298 cost of fuel.
~ 4 tons of CO2 emissions.

Yeah, that man truly cares about the environment.
Imagine thinking Musk is the true enemy of the environment...
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on April 28, 2022, 04:47:00 PM
Who said he was?
Only that he created 4 tons of CO2 in 40 minutes the other day, twice the amount an average person is responsible for emitting per year.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on April 28, 2022, 08:47:21 PM
Insightful article, good summary:
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/26/business/twitter-elon-musk-board.html
spoiler (click to show/hide)

Elon Musk to Buy Twitter

Common sense
Selling Twitter to Elon Musk Is Good for Investors. What About the Public?

The company’s decision to sell seems to have been based purely on the financials, with little if any regard for other stakeholders.

By James B. Stewart
April 26, 2022

Twitter is “the digital town square, where matters vital to the future of humanity are debated,” a triumphant Elon Musk proclaimed in announcing his deal to buy the social media platform.

In other words, Twitter is no ordinary corporation. It serves as something akin to a public utility, a unique global means of communication.

So should Twitter be governed like a conventional public company, with a board of directors focused primarily on reaping the greatest amount of money possible for shareholders, with little regard to the interests of other groups?

In the eyes of some influential business and legal experts, the answer is no. The company’s directors should have also evaluated the qualifications of Mr. Musk to serve as a responsible steward for a vital public communications channel — and, based on the public comments made by Twitter’s board of directors, there is no evidence that it did so.

“The board should have considered the interest of stakeholders like employees and users in evaluating the long-term value of the company,” said Lenore Palladino, associate professor of economics at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst, and a fellow at the progressive Roosevelt Institute in New York.

Mr. Musk is a polarizing figure. He is a world-changing entrepreneur, responsible for companies, like PayPal and Tesla, that have revolutionized enormous industries. He has used his considerable influence — he has 85 million Twitter followers — to inveigh against what he sees as a censorious liberal culture in technology and media.

He is also at times reckless and capricious — traits that have landed him in trouble with federal regulators and on the receiving end of a defamation lawsuit, among other troubles. Just last week, he mocked Bill Gates’s beer belly after the Microsoft co-founder was said to have bet against Tesla’s stock price.

The question is whether any of that actually or should have factored into the decision by Twitter’s board of directors to sell the company to Mr. Musk.

In recent decades American corporations and their boards have operated under a legal doctrine known as “shareholder primacy,” which posits that corporate boards should focus on a single goal, which is maximizing returns to shareholders.

Bret Taylor, Twitter’s chairman, hewed closely to that doctrine on Monday when he said that the board had evaluated Mr. Musk’s offer by focusing on “value, certainty and financing” and that the deal would deliver a “substantial cash premium.”

He might as well have been talking about a tool-and-die manufacturer.

There wasn’t even lip service paid to Twitter’s other stakeholders — its users, employees and advertisers, to name a few — or its profound importance to public discourse. It’s unclear whether the board members, in what appears to have been a whirlwind weekend of deliberations, even touched on these topics.

Under current law, mostly established by Delaware courts, boards have “the discretion but not the obligation” to consider the interests of people other than their investors, said Jill Fisch, a professor of business law at the University of Pennsylvania Carey Law School. But few, if any, have exercised that discretion, she said.

In recent years, this shareholder primacy model has come under attack from critics who contend it has enriched shareholders at the expense of just about everything and everyone else: workers, customers, innovation, the planet.

“Corporate leaders and practitioners have been increasingly pledging to pay close attention to the interests of stakeholders, such as customers or society in the case of Twitter, and not only shareholders,” said Lucian Bebchuk, a professor at Harvard Law School. Even so, a study of more than 100 recent $1 billion-plus deals that Mr. Bebchuk recently completed found that there had been little impact, with “large gains” for shareholders and corporate leaders and little or nothing for other constituencies.

The Twitter situation shows how “we need to fundamentally change the approach to corporate governance,” said Ms. Palladino, the Massachusetts professor.

Mr. Musk has said he isn’t buying Twitter to make money (even as he claims that he has plans to “unlock” the company’s potential). That is arguably cause for concern. Public shareholders, like any other owner seeking to maximize profits, have a financial incentive to attract and maintain the broadest number of users. That means management needs to bar extremists, in order to avoid offending or driving away many more users, while seeking to prohibit as few others as possible, in order to increase the platform’s value to advertisers.

On the other hand, it leaves the company’s management hostage to the whims of Wall Street, whose interests may not be well aligned with those of the broader public.

Since his takeover bid became public earlier this month, Mr. Musk has been talking up his plans to promote Twitter as a bastion of free speech. On Monday, he said he hoped that “even my worst critics remain on Twitter, because that is what free speech means.”

While Mr. Musk’s public comments so far have been soothing to champions of free expression, especially those on the right who claim that Big Tech has silenced conservative viewpoints, there’s no guarantee that Mr. Musk will continue to espouse those broad-minded views once he’s in control.

Having forsworn the profit motive, Mr. Musk might not care whom he offends, either by welcoming extremists or by banning people who denounce him. This is a man who once called a rescue worker a “pedo guy” after the worker criticized Mr. Musk. He has been careful not to say where he would draw the line between free expression and hateful or violent speech, which Twitter’s existing management has, with a notably imperfect record, tried to curtail.

In one sense, it’s easy to sympathize with the eagerness of the Twitter board to get out of this hornet’s nest while enriching shareholders. Turning down a takeover offer at a premium to the company’s current share price would have been a recipe for litigation. Accepting the bid was the path of least resistance, and Ms. Fisch said it was unlikely to be successfully challenged in court or held up by federal regulators.

On the other hand, there’s far more at stake with Twitter than in a normal corporate transaction (though you could make a similar argument about CNN, whose parent company was acquired this month by Discovery Inc., or for that matter any other company that purportedly serves the public interest).

Perhaps Mr. Musk will prove a fine steward of the digital town square he will soon own; it’s certainly plausible that the board, if it had seriously considered the likelihood that Mr. Musk would meddle to suit his ideology or personal interests, would have concluded he was a relatively safe pair of hands. After all, it’s not as if Twitter, in its current cacophonous state, is some utopia of mild-mannered civic discourse.

But the board’s response to Mr. Musk need not have been based on any subjective evaluation of his character or motives.

As Ms. Palladino points out, the board could have taken the position that serving the public interest matters most to Twitter’s long-term value, and that selling Twitter to any single, private buyer wasn’t in the interests of anyone other than short-term speculators and Mr. Musk himself.
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lol at thinking this willfully ignorant gibberish is "insightful"
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on April 28, 2022, 08:47:39 PM
https://twitter.com/ManilaChan/status/1519491214445268996
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on April 29, 2022, 02:32:17 AM
https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1519839363726729218
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on April 29, 2022, 04:59:35 AM
I've seen her Tiktoks and read some of her articles.That woman is stone cold crazy :rejoice
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on April 30, 2022, 06:10:46 AM
New ship just dropped fam  :heart

https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1520195881751957505 (https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1520195881751957505)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FRjPlMbWQAAmFNP?format=png)

:trumps
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: OnlyRegret on May 01, 2022, 12:46:16 AM
I wish nintex was here to grace us with his take on this :fbm
It's actually pretty simple.
They can explain it to themselves however they like but Mr. Musk has owned the libs beautifully and will continue to own them in the weeks, months and perhaps even years ahead even on this very website. :trumps

That NYT word salad is just another fantasy brainfart of someone who hangs around Starbucks during the day and watches CNN on repeat at night.
Apparently missing the flamethrower sale, Elon's SNL skit about Peach cheating on Mario, him backing DOGE coin as the worlds new reserve currency and many other great endeavors of Mr. Musk.

Will he try to attract top billing talent that has recently left or was fired from Twitter Corp?

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1519367926708588545 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1519367926708588545)

I dunno

fitting that this would revive you
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: VomKriege on May 01, 2022, 02:59:42 AM
https://twitter.com/travis_view/status/1520630058599149568
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: chronovore on May 01, 2022, 07:13:43 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1519735033950470144 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1519735033950470144)

 :trumps

Jesus.

Okay, conservatives bought into the QAnon nonsense, believing that (despite near constant media coverage) a shadowy elite are either eating, fucking, or drinking the blood of young children, presumed election interference meant that Trump had won, rather than seeing that they had only very narrowly lost (however sad that makes me), and held an armed insurrection in the nation’s capitol where they planned to hang the Vice President.

But, okay, libs are the ones who have become extreme because we believe in BLM and would prefer gun nuts stop fucking shooting us.

Sure thing.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on May 02, 2022, 06:17:49 PM
Quote from: https://imightbewrong.substack.com/p/guest-column-im-also-buying-jimmy
Much has been made of my recent $44 billion acquisition of Twitter. Reactions have ranged from elation to outrage, all of which I welcome; this is the type of robust exchange that a social media platform should guarantee. But Twitter isn’t the only company in dire need of a culture shift; other, more traditional businesses have badly lost their way. And that is why I’m pleased to announce that I have acquired the sub sandwich restaurant Jimmy John’s for a price of $3.6 billion.

This is an exciting new venture for me. Anyone who knows me knows that I’ve always wanted to master three realms: Space, green technology, and big, beefy subs with lots of gooey cheese melting out the sides. These are, you could say, my passions. And thought I’m immensely proud of what we’ve achieved at SpaceX and Tesla, I’ll be so bold as to predict that we can surpass what we’ve done with what we plan to accomplish at Jimmy John’s. We’re entering a bold new era of hoagies, friends.

But this purchase isn’t just about pushing the boundaries of what can be achieved with freshly baked bread and high-quality meats. It’s also about principle. It’s about what I believe a sub sandwich shop should be, about the implicit contract that a provider of grinders and flatbreads makes with its customers. I feel that Jimmy John’s has fallen sadly short in this obligation. This acquisition is largely to transform Jimmy John’s into the honest, delicious public forum that the people deserve.

Consider: What is the essence of the relationship between a sandwich chain restaurant and its customers? Surely, it’s trust. To quote Thomas Paine: “A body of men holding themselves accountable to nobody ought not to be trusted by anybody.” Jimmy John’s has become one such unaccountable body. They have broken promises; they have ruled with a haughty arrogance that would shame the great tyrants of yore. I speak specifically of their blithe abuse of the Jimmy John’s Freaky Fast Rewards Program.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on May 02, 2022, 07:36:02 PM
Quote from: https://imightbewrong.substack.com/p/guest-column-im-also-buying-jimmy
This is an exciting new venture for me. Anyone who knows me knows that I’ve always wanted to master three realms: Space, green technology, and big, beefy subs with lots of gooey cheese melting out the sides.

whoever wrote this is an utter fucking moron

they don't serve hot subs  :hmph
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on May 02, 2022, 08:04:12 PM
They don't serve "big beefy subs" either. That shit is pathetic and disgusting and the bread is awful.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: jorma on May 02, 2022, 11:59:54 PM
Quote
It’s also about principle. It’s about what I believe a sub sandwich shop should be, about the implicit contract that a provider of grinders and flatbreads makes with its customers. I feel that Jimmy John’s has fallen sadly short in this obligation. This acquisition is largely to transform Jimmy John’s into the honest, delicious public forum that the people deserve.

Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on May 03, 2022, 10:30:36 AM
benji and uncle disappointing me

Quote
It’s about what I believe a sub sandwich shop should be

jesus christ twitter truly has destroyed people inability to pay attt
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on May 03, 2022, 05:35:34 PM
(https://abload.de/img/279143664_552837586200mjjd.jpg)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on May 03, 2022, 06:17:08 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1521574200183566338 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1521574200183566338)

I wonder how many harddrives are being smashed to bits at Twitter HQ right now
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1521605949521203200 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1521605949521203200)

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1521580576297398274 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1521580576297398274)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on May 03, 2022, 09:15:09 PM
The best timeline!
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on May 03, 2022, 11:10:41 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1521605949521203200 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1521605949521203200)
"Yo, George, you running a massive conspiracy to control access to information?"
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on May 04, 2022, 01:14:17 AM
MAKE THE INFLUENCERS PAY!!
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on May 04, 2022, 04:10:21 AM
soros!

more like sorries!
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 04, 2022, 11:36:04 AM
(https://preview.redd.it/p0odb7536dx81.jpg?width=601&auto=webp&s=c495d92611ca7b3ce9fb28ce109c396b31d252ba)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on May 04, 2022, 11:12:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOy1_lBS1zk

rambling video, summary:

part 1
- musk just sold 8 billion in tesla stock
- terminating the twitter deal would incur a 1 billion penalty, but that can be written off against the gains from selling the stock
- tesla stock is massively overvalued and may be at its highest price, set to drop
- because musk sold the stock ostensibly to "fund buying twitter" he gets an easy out to avoid the public panic from selling for no reason

part 2
- musk knows how to manipulate SEO; just before a tesla whistleblower came forward, he made this "lolrandom" tweet and product

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1465838829370228737

- doing this generated articles that dominated all search results for "elon musk tesla whistleblower" and made the real story difficult to find
- elon's drug use has always negatively affected tesla stock, see marijuana on joe rogan etc. so of course he tries to keep a lid on it
- musk used to date amber heard, who is on trial
- her drug use has been brought up in court, the two of them at least did ambien together
- guess what elon tweeted which has recently dominated articles

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1519480761749016577

:whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on May 06, 2022, 06:56:02 AM
https://twitter.com/Alwaleed_Talal/status/1522171641761046528 (https://twitter.com/Alwaleed_Talal/status/1522171641761046528)

Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on May 06, 2022, 08:52:12 AM
So how are all those blue tick people going with their pledge to delete Twitter?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on May 06, 2022, 08:56:19 AM
So how are all those blue tick people going with their pledge to delete Twitter?

bargaining phase: "technically the deal hasn't fully gone through yet, he can still renege on it, a monetary shell game stunt"
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 06, 2022, 08:57:21 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOy1_lBS1zk

rambling video, summary:

part 1
- musk just sold 8 billion in tesla stock
- terminating the twitter deal would incur a 1 billion penalty, but that can be written off against the gains from selling the stock
- tesla stock is massively overvalued and may be at its highest price, set to drop
- because musk sold the stock ostensibly to "fund buying twitter" he gets an easy out to avoid the public panic from selling for no reason

part 2
- musk knows how to manipulate SEO; just before a tesla whistleblower came forward, he made this "lolrandom" tweet and product

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1465838829370228737

- doing this generated articles that dominated all search results for "elon musk tesla whistleblower" and made the real story difficult to find
- elon's drug use has always negatively affected tesla stock, see marijuana on joe rogan etc. so of course he tries to keep a lid on it
- musk used to date amber heard, who is on trial
- her drug use has been brought up in court, the two of them at least did ambien together
- guess what elon tweeted which has recently dominated articles

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1519480761749016577

:whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo :whoo

Damn you Muskrat, you can't keep getting away with it :stahp
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: VomKriege on May 06, 2022, 05:33:03 PM
Quote
“Elon is the one person we know and perhaps the only person in the world who has the courage, brilliance, and skills to fix all of these and build the public square that we all hoped for and deserve,”

https://techcrunch.com/2022/05/05/sequoia-binance-and-fidelity-back-elon-musks-bid-for-twitter/ (https://techcrunch.com/2022/05/05/sequoia-binance-and-fidelity-back-elon-musks-bid-for-twitter/)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on May 06, 2022, 06:08:45 PM
https://twitter.com/tomgara/status/1522284258496233472

spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSAJg4zWYAIyPMn?format=png&name=900x900)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSAJ1OtXoAIwwvY?format=png&name=900x900)

 :hmm

spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/jeligon/status/1522299982916866052
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Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: VomKriege on May 06, 2022, 11:41:55 PM
Is it me of there's some tendency for owning the libs™ types to go with individuals while "the libs"© will innately more accept the premise that Facebook or Twitter as collective institutions could/would/should do a better job at managing those spaces than calling up on Zuckerberg or Dorsey or some enlightened tycoon type, no matter how flawed entrusting private companies with this might be ?

That's probably crude and oversimplistic but the whole cult of personality stuff seems more pronounced among some segments.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: VomKriege on May 07, 2022, 12:36:58 PM
https://twitter.com/miniondeathcult/status/1521566163045519365
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on May 07, 2022, 01:10:00 PM
Is it me of there's some tendency for owning the libs™ types to go with individuals while "the libs"© will innately more accept the premise that Facebook or Twitter as collective institutions could/would/should do a better job at managing those spaces than calling up on Zuckerberg or Dorsey or some enlightened tycoon type, no matter how flawed entrusting private companies with this might be ?

That's probably crude and oversimplistic but the whole cult of personality stuff seems more pronounced among some segments.
They believe in humanity while the libs believe in systems.

Again, Adam Curtis' Can't Get You Out of My Head explores this.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: headwalk on May 07, 2022, 02:53:29 PM
"in a latvian post office in 1975, two temporary seasonal workers started furiously debating the qualities of their respective favourite brands of biscuit. the events that followed eventually led to the poll tax riots in britain some 15 years later and it was the government's ability to both seed and harness this discontent that has led to the systematic apatheid we now see before us today. the fundamental prinicples of a debate about confectionary are infact the driving forces behind the current landscape of increasingly opaque social division, and neither side can seemingly do anything about it."
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: VomKriege on May 08, 2022, 03:08:46 PM
Rumors and leaks that Musk plan is to decrease reliance on advertising and introducing a paid subscription system... Sounds like a good way to, indeed, possibly kill it but I'm not the richest man on earth or a big tech expert.
 :yeshrug
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on May 08, 2022, 03:24:57 PM
Rumors and leaks that Musk plan is to decrease reliance on advertising and introducing a paid subscription system... Sounds like a good way to, indeed, possibly kill it but I'm not the richest man on earth or a big tech expert.
 :yeshrug
Doesn't sound too bad honestly.

If only a small proportion of people are responsible for the majority of tweets, then you charge them for the privilege of posting (and blue check marks) while letting everyone else view for free. You could do a tiered system:
Blue check wankers already claim Twitter is an indispensible part of their lives and democracy (lol) so I think you'd convert most of them over to a paid tier. You'd also get rid/limit the ability of the majority of the terminally online morons who shit up the place with harassment campaigns.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on May 08, 2022, 07:25:25 PM
it's true, the most terminally online types are that because they are neets without enough income to do anything but post or tweet constantly, which costs nothing


again if musk somehow manages to improve twitter: win :idont

and if musk kills twitter: win :rejoice
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on May 09, 2022, 12:22:35 AM
Rumors and leaks that Musk plan is to decrease reliance on advertising and introducing a paid subscription system... Sounds like a good way to, indeed, possibly kill it but I'm not the richest man on earth or a big tech expert.
 :yeshrug
Doesn't sound too bad honestly.

If only a small proportion of people are responsible for the majority of tweets, then you charge them for the privilege of posting (and blue check marks) while letting everyone else view for free. You could do a tiered system:
  • Two tweets a day = free tier
  • Up to 10 tweets = cheap tier
  • 10+ or corporate users = expensive tier.
Blue check wankers already claim Twitter is an indispensible part of their lives and democracy (lol) so I think you'd convert most of them over to a paid tier. You'd also get rid/limit the ability of the majority of the terminally online morons who shit up the place with harassment campaigns.

The text message model?

Lol no
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on May 09, 2022, 12:36:53 AM
Rumors and leaks that Musk plan is to decrease reliance on advertising and introducing a paid subscription system... Sounds like a good way to, indeed, possibly kill it but I'm not the richest man on earth or a big tech expert.
 :yeshrug
Doesn't sound too bad honestly.

If only a small proportion of people are responsible for the majority of tweets, then you charge them for the privilege of posting (and blue check marks) while letting everyone else view for free. You could do a tiered system:
  • Two tweets a day = free tier
  • Up to 10 tweets = cheap tier
  • 10+ or corporate users = expensive tier.
Blue check wankers already claim Twitter is an indispensible part of their lives and democracy (lol) so I think you'd convert most of them over to a paid tier. You'd also get rid/limit the ability of the majority of the terminally online morons who shit up the place with harassment campaigns.

The text message model?

Lol no
What savage third world country do you live in where text messages are charged individually and not as part of a plan?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on May 09, 2022, 12:43:49 AM
here is the model:

Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on May 09, 2022, 10:33:17 AM
here is the model:

  • you can make as many normal tweets or photo tweets as you like for free
  • video tweets or ones with images over 10 MB cost 5 twitcoins
  • every user gets one twitcoin per day for free and can earn more through gamified activities that demonstrate engagement like liking one tweet every day for a week/month etc.
  • also if you go sufficiently viral you earn a bunch of twitcoins
  • also you can tip people with them if you really liked their tweet and this shows up as a separate like metric, a "superlike"
  • you can buy twitcoins wholesale, 200 for $10
  • monthly $10 sub also gets you 200 twitcoins per month as well as other privileges like the blue check
  • you can also spend 600 twitcoins to get a t-shirt made out of any tweet you really like, or printed on coffee mugs or urinal cakes

Maybe, except with Dogecoins, we're talking about Elon Musk
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on May 09, 2022, 03:09:48 PM
Tesla down another 8% today, down 30% this year.

Musk is going to lose it all lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on May 09, 2022, 03:27:57 PM
Tesla down another 8% today, down 30% this year.

Musk is going to lose it all lol

As long as the banks put up the money he won't have a problem.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on May 10, 2022, 12:55:11 AM
Tesla down another 8% today, down 30% this year.

Musk is going to lose it all lol

As long as the banks put up the money he won't have a problem.


>banks existing
>ww3 beng a real possibility

Good luck with that.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on May 10, 2022, 03:35:11 AM
Tesla down another 8% today, down 30% this year.

Musk is going to lose it all lol

As long as the banks put up the money he won't have a problem.


>banks existing
>ww3 beng a real possibility

Good luck with that.
You forgot the part where Russia declared war on Elon Musk and the US wants a climate neutral army.

Which means the bois will get stuck in the mud with Tesla trucks and tanks looking for EV chargers 5 miles across the border.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on May 10, 2022, 01:24:32 PM
How it started
Furthermore, the EU just passed the Digital Markets Act and the Digital Services Act, which will of course apply to Muskrat's Twitter, too.

How it is going
https://twitter.com/ThierryBreton/status/1523773895974612992 (https://twitter.com/ThierryBreton/status/1523773895974612992)

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1524081026053640192 (https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1524081026053640192)

:trumps
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on May 10, 2022, 02:24:55 PM
We badly need a Musk version of :trumps
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on May 10, 2022, 02:28:02 PM
Musk is ugly as fuck no thanks
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Transhuman on May 10, 2022, 04:20:03 PM
But so is Trump...
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on May 10, 2022, 04:44:47 PM
But so is Trump...

Trump has expressive features, like a muppet

(https://media4.giphy.com/media/bXE0iECrH9xJe/200.gif)

Musk just has that aspie look

Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: D3RANG3D on May 11, 2022, 10:10:56 AM
https://twitter.com/Dmanga_lover/status/1524390737319706624

Dude appropriated the #dearelonmusk hashtag hashwbrown to shill his novel.  :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on May 11, 2022, 06:34:20 PM
https://youtu.be/MQKIcKxoJuU
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on May 12, 2022, 02:18:48 PM
Quote
Twitter shares have fallen to about $46, well below Elon Musk’s purchase price of $54.20.

The sell-off has created a $9 billion gap between where Twitter is valued and how much Musk agreed to pay.

:pika

Quote
Market Summary
 > Tesla Inc
716.18 USD -270.77 (-27.44%)
past month

:pika
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on May 12, 2022, 02:29:08 PM
if twitter is going to be privately owned though I'm not sure it matters what the stock is valued at :idont
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on May 12, 2022, 02:36:46 PM
if twitter is going to be privately owned though I'm not sure it matters what the stock is valued at :idont

Why would you loan money to the guy willing to pay $54.20 when you can buy it yourself for $40?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on May 12, 2022, 02:50:48 PM
if twitter is going to be privately owned though I'm not sure it matters what the stock is valued at :idont

Why would you loan money to the guy willing to pay $54.20 when you can buy it yourself for $40?

because you can't afford it yourself, you're chipping in $5 to the guy paying the bulk of it, like a couple others
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on May 12, 2022, 03:50:03 PM
if twitter is going to be privately owned though I'm not sure it matters what the stock is valued at :idont

Why would you loan money to the guy willing to pay $54.20 when you can buy it yourself for $40?


It's like thinking you can pick the theme of the prom because you brought a 20 oz coke to the committee meeting.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 12, 2022, 04:18:38 PM
That's how I won over everyone to a Pirates of the Caribbean theme.  No one is going with No-pop Dylan's ideas. 
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on May 12, 2022, 05:02:22 PM
I don't like the current owners and direction of Twitter so Elon buying it is something I support.
However, that doesn't change the fact that he looks like a dog chasing a bone.

He buys Twitter and lifts the bans.
The libs are owned. But then what?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tuckers Law on May 12, 2022, 05:51:59 PM
Best outcome is not that Elon actually fixes Twitter, but instead that twitter dies a quick death.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on May 12, 2022, 06:03:37 PM
Best outcome is not that Elon actually fixes Twitter, but instead that twitter dies a quick death.

keep in mind that humanity is too addicted to social media to leave well enough alone and a dead twitter could result in a worse alternative surfacing

like when tumblrites migrated to discords and twitter (tumblr is dead, long live tumblr)

or chinese-owned alternatives like tiktok
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tuckers Law on May 12, 2022, 06:07:47 PM
Ah, let me amend that then.

Best outcome is twitter and all of its severely-online users die a quick death
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on May 12, 2022, 06:11:05 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/xKMdPiL.gif)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tuckers Law on May 12, 2022, 06:14:21 PM
Well, I don't really want them to suffer, I just want them gone.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on May 12, 2022, 06:15:41 PM
Well, I don't really want them to suffer, I just want them gone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiH1Bk6WmvI
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on May 12, 2022, 06:16:36 PM
I don't like the current owners and direction of Twitter so Elon buying it is something I support.
However, that doesn't change the fact that he looks like a dog chasing a bone.

He buys Twitter and lifts the bans.
The libs are owned. But then what?

He buys Twitter
He unbans Trump.

Scenario A: Trump starts tweeting his same stupid shit, people boycott Twitter AND people boycott Tesla (his highest sales continue to be in California)

Scenario B: Trump doesnt tweet or promotes truth social, people boycott Twitter AND people boycott Tesla (his highest sales continue to be in California)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on May 12, 2022, 07:14:23 PM
I don't like the current owners and direction of Twitter so Elon buying it is something I support.
However, that doesn't change the fact that he looks like a dog chasing a bone.

He buys Twitter and lifts the bans.
The libs are owned. But then what?

He buys Twitter
He unbans Trump.

Scenario A: Trump starts tweeting his same stupid shit, people boycott Twitter AND people boycott Tesla (his highest sales continue to be in California)

Scenario B: Trump doesnt tweet or promotes truth social, people boycott Twitter AND people boycott Tesla (his highest sales continue to be in California)

https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2022/4/28/twitter-daily-user-growth-rises-as-musk-readies-to-take-control
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on May 12, 2022, 07:34:00 PM
I don't like the current owners and direction of Twitter so Elon buying it is something I support.
However, that doesn't change the fact that he looks like a dog chasing a bone.

He buys Twitter and lifts the bans.
The libs are owned. But then what?

He buys Twitter
He unbans Trump.

Scenario A: Trump starts tweeting his same stupid shit, people boycott Twitter AND people boycott Tesla (his highest sales continue to be in California)

Scenario B: Trump doesnt tweet or promotes truth social, people boycott Twitter AND people boycott Tesla (his highest sales continue to be in California)

https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2022/4/28/twitter-daily-user-growth-rises-as-musk-readies-to-take-control

For dying boomer sure

Quote
Tallo found that the former juggernauts barely ranked, with Facebook a favorite for only 4% of Zoomers, and Twitter taking just 2% of the vote.

https://nypost.com/2022/04/18/the-ultimate-waste-gen-z-says-no-to-tiktok-social-media/

Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on May 13, 2022, 02:25:08 AM
Startpage.com (a privacy-focused search engine like duckduckgo.com) started advertising Mastodon a while ago.
https://www.startpage.com/
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on May 13, 2022, 05:46:27 AM
Startpage.com (a privacy-focused search engine like duckduckgo.com) started advertising Mastodon a while ago.
https://www.startpage.com/

Should be good for another 5 users then.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on May 13, 2022, 05:56:09 AM
 
:elon
(https://abload.de/img/musk5cjl6.png)
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1525049369552048129
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: VomKriege on May 13, 2022, 07:04:07 AM
Bless your heart if you sincerely believe Musk ownership will change things for the better.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on May 13, 2022, 07:25:40 AM
The only way you could truly turn it into a free speech platform free from any individuals control would be to make it decentralised like email... but wait, thats Mastodon lol.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on May 13, 2022, 10:13:47 AM
Why would you loan money to the guy willing to pay $54.20 when you can buy it yourself for $40?

I told you folks.

You need to read behind the tea leaves
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on May 13, 2022, 11:05:50 AM
I don't have back channels or anything,

but musk is just trolling trump and a billion loss is like half a days work.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on May 13, 2022, 01:20:32 PM
Elon backs out and Twitter stock crashes faster than NFT apes :elon

Trump buys Twitter for a Pence per share :trumps
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: VomKriege on May 13, 2022, 02:24:09 PM
Musk just doing whatever regardless of SEC regulations :pika
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on May 13, 2022, 02:50:28 PM
Trump hates Pence Nintex read the news
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on May 13, 2022, 03:59:26 PM
I'm making a counter offer for Twitter of... uh 61, 62, 63, uh, 64 cents.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on May 15, 2022, 09:18:33 AM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1525615849167589380
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on May 15, 2022, 10:45:06 AM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1525549535786717184 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1525549535786717184)

https://twitter.com/SnoopDogg/status/1525143525834121217 (https://twitter.com/SnoopDogg/status/1525143525834121217)

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1525623402194558976 (https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1525623402194558976)

They can explain it to themselves however they like but Mr. Musk has owned the libs beautifully and will continue to own them in the weeks, months and perhaps even years ahead even on this very website. :trumps

Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on May 15, 2022, 04:10:42 PM
https://twitter.com/skwrlz/status/1525345453780312065
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: VomKriege on May 15, 2022, 04:15:38 PM
You'd think being so lightly headed would be a major problem in maintaining the sort of trust and tight ship you need in massive business moves but I guess not.

He has been coming across as a volatile, unhinged moron for the last few years.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on May 16, 2022, 04:29:32 PM
https://twitter.com/DeItaone/status/1526272132845551618 (https://twitter.com/DeItaone/status/1526272132845551618)

He wants a discount.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on May 17, 2022, 01:06:11 PM
According to this opinion Muskrat doesn't really have a lot of wiggle room to renegotiate a lower price or walk away.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/may/17/what-are-elon-musk-options-in-the-twitter-takeover-deal
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on May 17, 2022, 01:09:57 PM
had he actually mentioned he wants a lower price?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on May 17, 2022, 01:18:50 PM
“My offer was based on Twitter’s SEC filings being accurate”
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on May 17, 2022, 01:19:30 PM
ok?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 17, 2022, 02:05:14 PM
I wouldn't be shocked if Muskrat was having buyers remorse, by nearly every account Twitter is a terrible business :trumps
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on May 18, 2022, 11:57:23 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/elon-musk-lights-up-twitter-after-declaring-he-ll-vote-gop-next-election-the-left-should-reflect-on-why/ar-AAXqdX2?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a9a31fddf3624caf95b7b5875dc9a7a4


Quote
He stated, "I have voted overwhelmingly for Democrats, historically – overwhelmingly. Like, I'm not sure, I might never have voted for a Republican, just to be clear. Now this election, I will."

 :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 18, 2022, 01:38:47 PM
Wow, stay safe people :tocry
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on May 18, 2022, 01:45:57 PM
A CEO with Republican leanings, what next? A white cismale CEO? :rage
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on May 18, 2022, 02:03:42 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1526961753619369987 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1526961753619369987)

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1526958110023245829 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1526958110023245829)

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1526961470562508802 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1526961470562508802)

:trumps
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on May 18, 2022, 02:56:08 PM
I was just scrolling by and thought he was ranting about Steam vs. EGS
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on May 19, 2022, 01:24:57 AM
Man, Musk is really going full stupid, doesn’t it?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on May 19, 2022, 01:45:42 AM
He's really just a troll who managed to convince the same archetype of personality who fell for Trump (=not the same people) of being their savior.

As I said before, just like Trump is a simpleton's idea of a rich person, Musk is a simpleton's idea of a genius.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on May 19, 2022, 02:14:06 AM
I wouldn't be shocked if Muskrat was having buyers remorse, by nearly every account Twitter is a terrible business :trumps

That’s why it blows my mind that anyone thinks he has a plan beyond trolling and shitposting because his twitter addiction. The guy may as well be a competent or genuinely good entrepreneur but he is also extremely impulsive and petty; and it just got worse after years of believing his own hype. I still remember that mini submarine shit and his meltdown.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: VomKriege on May 19, 2022, 06:34:00 AM
It seems he always came up ahead financially but it's hard to say if it's financial genius or just being floated up by the tide (of Tesla stocks, lately). He's transparently using Twitter (or PR) as a way to game markets but I guess this ship sailed when the SEC didn't fell down harder then.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on May 19, 2022, 08:21:04 AM
I still remember that mini submarine shit and his meltdown.

The way he recently insulted Bill Gates was pretty revolting.
(In case anyone missed it, Gates privately asked Musk if he was interested in philanthropy. Musk then asked Gates if he was still shorting Tesla. Gates confirmed it, Musk got angry and ended the chat. He then leaked the chat and posted this:
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1517707521343082496
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 19, 2022, 08:37:43 AM
I'd call that petty and childish, not revolting. Gates is a piece of shit too :trumps
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on May 19, 2022, 08:46:48 AM
(Yeah, I can't believe I just defended Gates.)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on May 19, 2022, 12:46:59 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTGBjURUAAAU4Lv?format=jpg&name=small)

"legal experts"
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 19, 2022, 12:50:08 PM
:dobbs ?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on May 19, 2022, 08:15:51 PM
So the dude was a pig with a woman and he is just gaslighting everyone with “political attacks”:

https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-paid-250000-to-a-flight-attendant-who-accused-elon-musk-of-sexual-misconduct-2022-5?r=MX&IR=T

Almost believed it was too convenient until I remembered that he was warning everyone of political attacks.  ::)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on May 20, 2022, 03:11:11 AM
The plan all along was to buy twitter before Elongate could start trending  :ohhh
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on May 20, 2022, 03:32:15 AM
I guess offering a horse worked for the aspie on grimes and amber heard :dead
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on May 20, 2022, 07:46:52 AM
He used the old "ask for a massage then whip it out" trick on his private jet

Wonder who taught him that one

(https://i.imgur.com/nWlxpgM.jpg)

 :biden
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on May 20, 2022, 07:48:31 AM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1527526389569708032 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1527526389569708032)

 :fbm
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Trent Dole on May 20, 2022, 09:38:07 AM
He's really just a troll who managed to convince the same archetype of personality who fell for Trump (=not the same people) of being their savior.

As I said before, just like Trump is a simpleton's idea of a rich person, Musk is a simpleton's idea of a genius.
One of the people I know that unironically follows Musk went to high school for a total of three days so I'd say this checks out. :doge
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: jorma on May 20, 2022, 11:46:06 AM
He's really just a troll who managed to convince the same archetype of personality who fell for Trump (=not the same people) of being their savior.

As I said before, just like Trump is a simpleton's idea of a rich person, Musk is a simpleton's idea of a genius.
One of the people I know that unironically follows Musk went to high school for a total of three days so I'd say this checks out. :doge

It does check out. Occam also follows musk and reposts his tweets on a regular basis and he wanted to invade brazil to save the environment  :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on May 20, 2022, 12:18:55 PM
So the dude was a pig with a woman and he is just gaslighting everyone with “political attacks”:

https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-paid-250000-to-a-flight-attendant-who-accused-elon-musk-of-sexual-misconduct-2022-5?r=MX&IR=T

Almost believed it was too convenient until I remembered that he was warning everyone of political attacks.  ::)

I don't know, maybe pump your brakes about believing accusations against someone you already hate?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on May 20, 2022, 01:08:50 PM
He's really just a troll who managed to convince the same archetype of personality who fell for Trump (=not the same people) of being their savior.

As I said before, just like Trump is a simpleton's idea of a rich person, Musk is a simpleton's idea of a genius.
One of the people I know that unironically follows Musk went to high school for a total of three days so I'd say this checks out. :doge

It does check out. Occam also follows musk and reposts his tweets on a regular basis and he wanted to invade brazil to save the environment  :lol
PLOT TWIST

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1527645516258955266 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1527645516258955266)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTNZNVzWQAEJJNh?format=jpg)

spoiler (click to show/hide)
$5 it was not They/Them Democrats but John Barron that leaked that dirt to Business Insider

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1525623402194558976 (https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1525623402194558976)
[close]

These writers  :whew
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 20, 2022, 01:16:38 PM
Re-Truthed (https://i.imgur.com/uyVQVHA.png)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on May 20, 2022, 01:24:36 PM
So the dude was a pig with a woman and he is just gaslighting everyone with “political attacks”:

https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-paid-250000-to-a-flight-attendant-who-accused-elon-musk-of-sexual-misconduct-2022-5?r=MX&IR=T

Almost believed it was too convenient until I remembered that he was warning everyone of political attacks.  ::)

I don't know, maybe pump your brakes about believing accusations against someone you already hate?

I would have given him the benefit of doubt (like I said, I feel it was too convenient) if he didnt started with "this is a political attack" before the news drop.

At the same time, is not like this changes anything overall of all this orderall (the case was already settled and no one cares outside of twitter drama).
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on May 20, 2022, 01:30:25 PM
Imbecile spent $250,000 to not get a handy. Someone tell him about Chinatown
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on May 20, 2022, 01:51:09 PM
Re-Truthed (https://i.imgur.com/uyVQVHA.png)

pls emote this bork
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: D3RANG3D on May 20, 2022, 01:57:17 PM
Re-Truthed (https://i.imgur.com/uyVQVHA.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/0yBeUNT.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/fRzmbAW.png)

Here fixed em up a little bit.   :P
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on May 20, 2022, 02:15:18 PM
Re-Truthed (https://i.imgur.com/uyVQVHA.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/0yBeUNT.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/fRzmbAW.png)

Here fixed em up a little bit.   :P

Re-truthing all the onlythots during a benzo bender (https://i.imgur.com/0yBeUNT.png)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on May 20, 2022, 02:38:35 PM
I would have given him the benefit of doubt (like I said, I feel it was too convenient) if he didnt started with "this is a political attack" before the news drop.
Yeah, this is conspiratorial thinking. A claim about a 2016 incident that was settled for peanuts in 2018 isn't a "news drop" that you or anyone else needs to be "gaslit" about. If you seriously think all of Musk's shitposting the other day was an elaborate attempt to cover up a complete non-story he had somehow heard a semi-tabloid was going to report I don't know what to tell you other than to try to be a little more skeptical in life.

I don't know all that much about Elon Musk, though I have a new history of PayPal as my next book to read and I'm against my own will seeming to learn more and more about him, but he doesn't strike me as very much of a schemer.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
:elon
[close]
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on May 20, 2022, 03:00:01 PM
Elon is just getting hazed by the Mar A Lago Republicans. It's not even subtle.  :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on May 20, 2022, 03:42:57 PM
Quote
A claim about a 2016 incident that was settled for peanuts in 2018 isn't a "news drop" that you or anyone else needs to be "gaslit" about. If you seriously think all of Musk's shitposting the other day was an elaborate attempt to cover up a complete non-story he had somehow heard a semi-tabloid was going to report I don't know what to tell you other than to try to be a little more skeptical in life.

Dude, they asked him directly, is in the article:

Quote
After Insider contacted Musk for comment, he emailed to ask for more time to respond and said there is "a lot more to this story."

"If I were inclined to engage in sexual harassment, this is unlikely to be the first time in my entire 30-year career that it comes to light," he wrote, calling the story a "politically motivated hit piece."


Insider extended the deadline and reiterated the offer to Musk to comment on the claims. He did not respond.

Reached via cell phone, SpaceX vice president of legal Christopher Cardaci said, "I'm not going to comment on any settlement agreements." SpaceX did not respond to requests for comment to its general media contact email address.

He knew it was coming.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on May 20, 2022, 03:47:52 PM
https://www.space.com/elon-musk-denies-sexual-misconduct-allegation

Quote
Musk has denied the allegations in a series of tweets over the past two days, calling them "wild accusations" that are "utterly untrue" and challenging the flight attendant's friend to describe any feature of his anatomy, such as scars or tattoos, "that isn't known by the public."

Quote
According to John Cook, investigations editor at Insider, the publication reached out to Musk at around 9 a.m. EDT (1300 GMT) on Wednesday — about three hours before Musk posted his "dirty tricks" tweet.
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Post by: benjipwns on May 20, 2022, 03:53:03 PM
As I said, if you want to believe all of that Twitter posting was some attempt to try and cover up a non-story feel free. I just wouldn't advise it.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on May 20, 2022, 04:01:27 PM
I never say it was a smart plan. Hell, I will say this story wouldn’t have taken off if he didn’t pulled a Trump and say everything the press was going to publish was incoming lies.

The dude has a history of being hyper defensive at twitter and trying to manipulate people by saying something there and acting in other way.

Did you forget the shitshow he created when he said that diver was a pedophile because he criticized his mini submarine. It was a hell of his own making.
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Post by: benjipwns on May 20, 2022, 04:02:41 PM
Has this story taken off? Is it even a story?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on May 20, 2022, 04:04:52 PM
Just remember, none of this was important enough to report until Musk started threatening the blue ticks' little fiefdoms.

It was particularly not important enough to report when Musk was the darling of the blue ticks and was single handedly saving the planet from climate change.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on May 20, 2022, 04:09:16 PM
Just remember, none of this was important enough to report until Musk started threatening the blue ticks' little fiefdoms.

It was particularly not important enough to report when Musk was the darling of the blue ticks and was single handedly saving the planet from climate change.

 :lol

Dude. Did you read the article?

It was not reported because it wasn’t known.

You can criticize the veracity of the claims given second hand account from a shitty friend, but it wasn’t known and he has not denied it.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on May 20, 2022, 04:15:51 PM
Has this story taken off? Is it even a story?

It was the top two posts on reddit, with over 8k comments each.
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Post by: benjipwns on May 20, 2022, 04:20:59 PM
But how high did it rank on r/antiwork?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on May 20, 2022, 04:21:16 PM
Just remember, none of this was important enough to report until Musk started threatening the blue ticks' little fiefdoms.

It was particularly not important enough to report when Musk was the darling of the blue ticks and was single handedly saving the planet from climate change.

It's no coincidence this was on the eve of starliner flying and the FAA once again hemming and hawing over letting musk launch starship tests.

really makes your think
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on May 20, 2022, 04:53:00 PM
Just remember, none of this was important enough to report until Musk started threatening the blue ticks' little fiefdoms.

It was particularly not important enough to report when Musk was the darling of the blue ticks and was single handedly saving the planet from climate change.

It's no coincidence this was on the eve of starliner flying and the FAA once again hemming and hawing over letting musk launch starship tests.

really makes your think

You said that like that was occupying  Musk mind:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-not-happy-meme-115447784.html

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“Tesla is on my mind 24/7," adding “So may seem like below, but not true.”



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Post by: Nintex on May 20, 2022, 04:55:11 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1527748229470646272 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1527748229470646272)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 20, 2022, 04:56:28 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/uyVQVHA.png)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on May 20, 2022, 05:01:02 PM
Just remember, none of this was important enough to report until Musk started threatening the blue ticks' little fiefdoms.

It was particularly not important enough to report when Musk was the darling of the blue ticks and was single handedly saving the planet from climate change.

It's no coincidence this was on the eve of starliner flying and the FAA once again hemming and hawing over letting musk launch starship tests.

really makes your think

You said that like that was occupying  Musk mind:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-not-happy-meme-115447784.html

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“Tesla is on my mind 24/7," adding “So may seem like below, but not true.”





Spacex is arguably the largest and most profitable company in the world and will quintuple their value in the next two years.

Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on May 20, 2022, 05:02:27 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1527748229470646272 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1527748229470646272)

I thought you already have that, Elon. Did someone quit or you got mad about something?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tuckers Law on May 20, 2022, 05:02:48 PM
Elons tweets about voting republican are some wild nonsense, if he’s being serious.

That said, all he’s got to do at any given moment is respirate and, if online mob sees him do it:
:gamergate :rethread :gamergate :rethread
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on May 20, 2022, 05:03:52 PM
Just remember, none of this was important enough to report until Musk started threatening the blue ticks' little fiefdoms.

It was particularly not important enough to report when Musk was the darling of the blue ticks and was single handedly saving the planet from climate change.

It's no coincidence this was on the eve of starliner flying and the FAA once again hemming and hawing over letting musk launch starship tests.

really makes your think

You said that like that was occupying  Musk mind:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-not-happy-meme-115447784.html

Quote
“Tesla is on my mind 24/7," adding “So may seem like below, but not true.”





Spacex is arguably the largest and most profitable company in the world and will quintuple their value in the next two years.

Yes. Who said otherwise?

If he was mad about losing contracts about SpaceX, why he is bitching about Tesla and Twitter.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on May 20, 2022, 05:05:27 PM
Elons tweets about voting republican are some wild nonsense, if he’s being serious.

That said, all he’s got to do at any given moment is respirate and, if online mob sees him do it:
:gamergate :rethread :gamergate :rethread

I mean, I feel is kind of difficult to Twitter to ignore him when he is buying twitter. Is not like he doesn’t love the attention, in any case.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on May 20, 2022, 05:38:37 PM
It looks to me like Elon accidentally got himself into a jam and unlike other folks who get into jams he hasn't quite figured out how to get out of it. :trumps

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1527774704018280448 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1527774704018280448)

:badass
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tuckers Law on May 20, 2022, 06:45:41 PM
Elons tweets about voting republican are some wild nonsense, if he’s being serious.

That said, all he’s got to do at any given moment is respirate and, if online mob sees him do it:
:gamergate :rethread :gamergate :rethread

I mean, I feel is kind of difficult to Twitter to ignore him when he is buying twitter. Is not like he doesn’t love the attention, in any case.

You’re not wrong there  :yeshrug
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on May 21, 2022, 04:39:53 AM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1527920663981342721 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1527920663981342721)

We went from buying Twitter to Lock her up!
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on May 21, 2022, 07:04:41 AM
Elon MAGAsk
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on May 21, 2022, 09:15:22 AM
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There may be actual Russian interference but...

Somebody at twitter just told him there was, didn’t it?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on May 21, 2022, 12:10:19 PM
Quote
There may be actual Russian interference but...

Somebody at twitter just told him there was, didn’t it?

this is the opposite
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 21, 2022, 01:33:51 PM
his cousin boris muskratov told him :shh
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on May 21, 2022, 10:12:06 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTSI7gGagAALfin?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on May 21, 2022, 11:48:27 PM
:dead
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on May 21, 2022, 11:50:13 PM
But does he speak jive?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Transhuman on May 22, 2022, 03:24:00 AM
Do any of you have twitters? I'm still trying to figure out how to use it
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on May 22, 2022, 05:26:14 AM
He's actually talking about Sussman, Clinton's crooked lawyer
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Trent Dole on May 22, 2022, 07:08:04 AM
TROTH SOCIAL
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Post by: VomKriege on May 22, 2022, 07:28:58 AM
TOTH Social  :whew
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on May 25, 2022, 10:57:16 PM
https://twitter.com/bonerhitler/status/1529516866632396801
Title: Had some beers
Post by: Tasty on May 25, 2022, 11:37:16 PM
Damn for 250k I'd even swallow.
Title: Re: Had some beers
Post by: BIONIC on May 26, 2022, 03:07:05 AM
Damn for 250k I'd even swallow.

https://youtu.be/VmugfdhSzJs
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on May 26, 2022, 05:07:40 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1529728714644369408 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1529728714644369408)

:fbm

Musk is now trying to reason with his new found Republican friends on gun control :dead
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1529941504432783365 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1529941504432783365)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on May 30, 2022, 01:50:34 PM
Elon Musk’s Twitter Plans Would Mean Less Free Speech for Many
The platform has a history of standing up to governments. Its billionaire suitor wants to follow their rules to the letter.

https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-free-speech-twitter-global-censorship/
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2022, 07:45:59 AM
https://www.news18.com/news/auto/elon-musk-says-tesla-has-paused-all-hiring-worldwide-needs-to-cut-staff-by-10-percent-5303101.html

Saw this coming with the order to return to the office or leave.  Same shit at Netflix telling employees to leave if they don't like their policies.  Healthy companies don't use language that activily tries to get people to resign.   
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on June 06, 2022, 04:14:10 PM
Muskrat threatens to pull out of Twitter deal without more information about fake accounts.

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Mr. Musk’s lawyers said that Twitter was “actively resisting” his requests.

Elon Musk is threatening to pull out of his $44 billion acquisition of Twitter if the company does not provide more information on how it calculates the number of fake accounts.

In a letter delivered to Twitter on Monday and filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission, Mr. Musk’s lawyers at the law firm Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom argued that Twitter was “actively resisting and thwarting” Mr. Musk’s rights under the terms of his deal to acquire the social media company. His lawyers accused Twitter of a “clear material breach” of its obligations and said that Mr. Musk had the right to break off the agreement as a result.[...]
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/06/business/elon-musk-twitter.html
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Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 06, 2022, 04:16:23 PM
musk is like "there are  more fake accounts, I know, cause I run them"
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Post by: Tuckers Law on June 06, 2022, 04:27:03 PM
Richard Hoeg did a rundown video on the legal filings for this that seemed pretty easy to follow.  Even with Elon going full loony-troll lately, Twitter’s continued resistance to provide hard data even when still protected from public release by Elon, has me thinking they’re using an intentionally shit methodology to arrive at their provided percentage of bot accounts.

https://youtu.be/sw_XU9H9yTg
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on June 06, 2022, 06:07:32 PM
New twist

https://twitter.com/TXAG/status/1533890772713582593 (https://twitter.com/TXAG/status/1533890772713582593)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on June 06, 2022, 06:20:32 PM
You mean, “new grift”.

Ken Paxton is a scumbag to take it seriously.
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Post by: chronovore on June 06, 2022, 07:41:26 PM
Muskrat threatens to pull out of Twitter deal without more information about fake accounts.

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Mr. Musk’s lawyers said that Twitter was “actively resisting” his requests.

Elon Musk is threatening to pull out of his $44 billion acquisition of Twitter if the company does not provide more information on how it calculates the number of fake accounts.

In a letter delivered to Twitter on Monday and filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission, Mr. Musk’s lawyers at the law firm Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom argued that Twitter was “actively resisting and thwarting” Mr. Musk’s rights under the terms of his deal to acquire the social media company. His lawyers accused Twitter of a “clear material breach” of its obligations and said that Mr. Musk had the right to break off the agreement as a result.[...]
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/06/business/elon-musk-twitter.html

Most “geniuses“ would look into this sort of thing before offering $44 billion in a purchase. You know, kick the tires. Have an inspection.

Caveat emptor, motherfucker.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on June 06, 2022, 09:04:28 PM
GOP AGs vs. Big Tech

(https://i.imgur.com/T4lHxFp.gif)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tuckers Law on June 06, 2022, 09:24:29 PM
You mean, “new grift”.

Ken Paxton is a scumbag to take it seriously.

Agreed.  I would be ecstatic if he and Abbott both choked to death on each others cocks.
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Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on June 06, 2022, 11:00:09 PM
dude owns texas lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on June 14, 2022, 05:46:42 PM
https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1536820115228049409 (https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1536820115228049409)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on June 14, 2022, 08:27:07 PM
Copyright infringement >:(
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: VomKriege on June 16, 2022, 03:00:36 AM
https://twitter.com/MattBinder/status/1537174986905071616
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on June 16, 2022, 03:30:11 AM
https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1537103786086391809 (https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1537103786086391809)

The best move for the Democrats is to step aside and let them fight.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 17, 2022, 09:12:08 AM
https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/17/23172262/spacex-fires-employees-open-letter-elon-musk-complaints
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on June 17, 2022, 04:26:08 PM
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But blanketing thousands of people across the company with repeated unsolicited emails and asking them to sign letters and fill out unsponsored surveys during the work day is not acceptable,

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1537883083461959680 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1537883083461959680)

 :elon
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Post by: james on June 17, 2022, 04:59:51 PM
Employees on reddit said there was one (1) email about it
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Post by: Tuckers Law on June 17, 2022, 05:37:27 PM
One email across a company DL of even mild criticism of that company’s CEO is enough to terminate over.  Because it’s criticism of Elon doesn’t change that.

If you’re that serious about it, you’re not forced to work for them.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 17, 2022, 05:48:54 PM
The news isn't interesting because they got fired.  It's interesting because the employees were fed enough to put their jobs on the lines to send the email. It's more evidence that he's not a steller CEO.  Seems like they were serious, are no longer working for him, and did so in a way that potentially helps the people who are dissatisfied with Musk but don't want to lose their job.   The takes that this is the obvious consequence of publically criticizing your boss are not necessary because no one expected them not to be fired.   Also the free speech hypocrisy (ya ya not free from consequences etc etc). 
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on June 17, 2022, 05:55:48 PM
One email across a company DL of even mild criticism of that company’s CEO is enough to terminate over.  Because it’s criticism of Elon doesn’t change that.

If you’re that serious about it, you’re not forced to work for them.

While you may not care enough about Taco Bell to put your cashier job on the line, many people enjoy the jobs they're doing and care about the work. Asking for positive change is not a negative thing. Companies are made out of people, if they aren't happy, your don't have a company

They sent an email asking for people to provide feedback. That's pretty reasonable.

Good luck recruiting where even the lightest feedback results in being fired. Musk forgets unemployment is still at record lows

Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tuckers Law on June 17, 2022, 06:10:33 PM
I agree it’s interesting that the employees were ready to go with that open letter, but the result is not surprising in the least, especially when your first demand point of discussion is for the company to publicly condemn its own sitting CEO.  A smarter play would’ve been to keep it more neutral in tone with regards to Elon’s public behavior and the impact that has in the workplace.  Maybe a request for open dialogue with the company heads before going full-tilt.

Nice one with the Taco Bell cashier barb, Jimmy.  Crypto market got you down, buddy?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on June 17, 2022, 07:27:37 PM
It's a well known fact that I was never able to figure out how to buy crypto so try again
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: jorma on June 18, 2022, 02:05:27 AM
Oh james, i told you not to buy tesla when the main owner is selling  :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on June 18, 2022, 05:12:57 AM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1537997091800092679 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1537997091800092679)

:elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on June 18, 2022, 10:01:20 PM
Somehow my opinion of Elon's intelligence continues to drop, didn't think that was possible.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on July 08, 2022, 03:29:18 AM
Seems Musk wants out. According to the Washington Post, the deal is in serious trouble.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/07/07/elon-musk-twitter-jeopardy/

Musk on the other hand is busy repopulating the planet, which is a noble cause given humanity is on the brink of extinction.
He has by now fathered 9 children.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/07/07/shivon-zilis-elon-musk/

Quote
Musk appeared to address the report on Twitter Thursday, where he has expressed his previous views that people should have more children.

“Doing my best to help the underpopulation crisis," he tweeted. "A collapsing birth rate is the biggest danger civilization faces by far.”

Can never have too many factory workers!
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: VomKriege on July 08, 2022, 05:40:45 PM
https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/8/23200961/elon-musk-files-back-out-twitter-deal-breach-of-contract (https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/8/23200961/elon-musk-files-back-out-twitter-deal-breach-of-contract)

I guess it comes down to the exact verbiage that was written down if he has some legitimate foundation to do so but lol.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on July 08, 2022, 05:46:22 PM
https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/8/23200961/elon-musk-files-back-out-twitter-deal-breach-of-contract (https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/8/23200961/elon-musk-files-back-out-twitter-deal-breach-of-contract)

I guess it comes down to the exact verbiage that was written down if he has some legitimate foundation to do so but lol.
We did it reddit Twitter, global democracy is saved! :jeb
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: VomKriege on July 08, 2022, 05:59:29 PM
He can't keep getting away with it !

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Maybe he will, maybe he won't
[close]
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: VomKriege on July 08, 2022, 06:01:12 PM
https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/1545527385038245902

I guess they'll probably settle (not sure Twitter wants to be in limbo for years while trying to force this in courts) but Musk may probably have to cough many, many pretty pennies.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on July 08, 2022, 06:01:24 PM
That's $1 billion for Twitter and Elon walks away with $43 billion and probably knocked up some lawyers along the way.

I say this is a good deal for both parties involved.


LMAO they're going to force him to buy it.  :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: VomKriege on July 08, 2022, 06:04:39 PM
That's $1 billion for Twitter and Elon walks away with $43 billion and probably knocked up some lawyers along the way.

I say this is a good deal for both parties involved.


LMAO they're going to force him to buy it.  :lol

The 1 billion thing is apparently if a third party / outside reason blocks the deal ? Certainly not something he can just invoke because he has buyer's regret.

Honestly he deserves to get spanked mightily for this sort of stupid brinkmanship.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on July 08, 2022, 06:13:16 PM
I suspect hes in the right overall,  but the whole thing had a whiff of drunk man declares he is going to buy his favourite local pub that is about to close down himself all along :elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on July 08, 2022, 06:16:04 PM
If twitter was a viable and excellent business Microsoft would have bought it years ago, would it even still be alive if it wasn't for the media classes obsession with it?
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Post by: who is ted danson? on July 08, 2022, 06:42:38 PM
pussy ass biiiiiiiiiiitcchhhhh
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 08, 2022, 06:49:25 PM
That's $1 billion for Twitter and Elon walks away with $43 billion and probably knocked up some lawyers along the way.

I say this is a good deal for both parties involved.


LMAO they're going to force him to buy it.  :lol

He's not getting out of this for only a billion. This dude clearly doesn't listen to his attorneys.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Transhuman on July 08, 2022, 09:09:26 PM
If all he has to do is prove that twitter lied about metrics i'd say his chances are good.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 08, 2022, 09:43:07 PM
If all he has to do is prove that twitter lied about metrics i'd say his chances are good.
He's wrong about that and clearly doesn't understand the issue but it's irrelevant. He signed the agreement. Whether he's forced to go through with the purchase or ends up eating a massive (more than 1b) fine, he's gonna take an L.

Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 08, 2022, 09:50:07 PM
If all he has to do is prove that twitter lied about metrics i'd say his chances are good.

'Lied' can mean a lot of things here and only really egregious lies would help Musk.  Twitter did not lie in the sense that they fudged the numbers to make the sale.  They may have been always fudging the numbers by using poor metrics of bot activity, but that is not the lie that matters. 
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Transhuman on July 08, 2022, 09:53:28 PM
Considering that the value of twitter has depreciated 14.6 billion dollars since he pledged to acquire, a $1 Billion termination fee is a steal. And if Twitter gave incorrect figures it's not a leap that the acquisition could be voided, and he wouldn't even be on the hook for $1 Billion (which is what he agreed to pay only if he failed to acquire financing, which he did, so it's irrelevant).
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Lonewulfeus on July 08, 2022, 09:55:01 PM
Still waiting for the punchline, starting to think one isn’t coming.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 08, 2022, 10:21:08 PM
Considering that the value of twitter has depreciated 14.6 billion dollars since he pledged to acquire, a $1 Billion termination fee is a steal. And if Twitter gave incorrect figures it's not a leap that the acquisition could be voided, and he wouldn't even be on the hook for $1 Billion (which is what he agreed to pay only if he failed to acquire financing, which he did, so it's irrelevant).

According to who? He signed the contract.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Transhuman on July 08, 2022, 10:39:25 PM
If they fudged the user metrics that's misrepresentation, and all the signatures in the world wouldn't be worth a plugged nickel.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on July 08, 2022, 10:41:28 PM
HN comments (different commenters).

Quote
There's another belief floated by Josh Wolfe (an investor with Lux Capital) who claimed it was a ruse to liquidate Tesla stock en masse without Tesla hodlers getting suspicious and tanking the inflated stock price.

https://twitter.com/wolfejosh/status/1545387947578597376

Quote
If someone's stock is as incredibly overinflated as Tesla has been for so long, choosing the most effective way to liquidate stock without triggering a run becomes a social engineering problem with the incentive of a multi-billion dollar payoff.

Honestly I think other people trying to read this situation in some way that ignores a multi billion dollar incentive just sitting there is utterly naive.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on July 08, 2022, 11:29:19 PM
Why would Twitter agree to take $1 billion to let him out of the purchase?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: VomKriege on July 09, 2022, 01:18:11 AM
If they fudged the user metrics that's misrepresentation, and all the signatures in the world wouldn't be worth a plugged nickel.

Please quote the part of the agreement that says so ?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Transhuman on July 09, 2022, 01:32:53 AM
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/misrepresentation.asp

https://content.next.westlaw.com/practical-law/document/I3f4a478be8db11e398db8b09b4f043e0/Misrepresentation?transitionType=Default&contextData=%28sc.Default%29&firstPage=true&viewType=FullText#:~:text=An%20untrue%20statement%20of%20fact,misrepresentation%20of%20fact%20or%20law.

Are you really going to let me dunk on you when literally my only knowledge of the law is watching archive footage of Ted Bundy defend himself in 1979, and four episodes of Extraordinary Attorney Woo?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: VomKriege on July 09, 2022, 02:39:18 AM
I don't think "fudging" statistics necessarily equates to misrepresentation in a matter where I suspect every methodology and result is ultimately debatable. That's assuming they did fudge anything, which Elon Musk has alleged but illustrated flimsily at points.

Did Twitter cock up ? It's always possible but they weren't the ones playing fast, loose and desperate to close the deal.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on July 09, 2022, 09:26:46 AM
https://archive.ph/W552I

bustin nuts
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: VomKriege on July 09, 2022, 09:37:35 AM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1517215066550116354
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 09, 2022, 10:24:57 AM
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/misrepresentation.asp

https://content.next.westlaw.com/practical-law/document/I3f4a478be8db11e398db8b09b4f043e0/Misrepresentation?transitionType=Default&contextData=%28sc.Default%29&firstPage=true&viewType=FullText#:~:text=An%20untrue%20statement%20of%20fact,misrepresentation%20of%20fact%20or%20law.

Are you really going to let me dunk on you when literally my only knowledge of the law is watching archive footage of Ted Bundy defend himself in 1979, and four episodes of Extraordinary Attorney Woo?

Posting random law links =/= showing where in the agreement that a binding contract can be broken because one person makes claims he cannot validate, about a topic he doesn't understand. He signed it, Twitter is going to milk him. This is what happens when you don't listen to your legal counsel and think you're the smartest man in the room.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: VomKriege on July 09, 2022, 12:46:14 PM
Opening Arguments had an episode about it and they're skeptical the whole spambot excuse holds because of the document signed and submitted to the SEC. They're also not convinced Twitter will somehow be able to force the transaction legally.

Starts at 25mn.

https://openargs.com/oa610-elons-twitter-deal-was-a-complete-blunder-its-not-happening/
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: VomKriege on July 09, 2022, 01:05:26 PM
IANAL but it's not even certain Musk has his funding secured for the due date let alone in 1 week / month / year beyond that.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: VomKriege on July 10, 2022, 12:04:47 AM
https://twitter.com/ZTPetrizzo/status/1545950135989026816
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on July 10, 2022, 02:13:21 AM
:trumps  :elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on July 10, 2022, 04:02:45 AM
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1545949087367053312 (https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1545949087367053312)

:trumps
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Buy it.
Post by: Nintex on July 11, 2022, 04:00:40 AM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1546344529460174849 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1546344529460174849)

Mr Musk do you intend to make a mockery of this court?  :mods
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Buy it.
Post by: VomKriege on July 11, 2022, 04:22:26 AM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1546345773348147201

OK
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Buy it.
Post by: BIONIC on July 11, 2022, 04:44:09 AM
https://twitter.com/annlesbyphd/status/1546345244672724994

Brehs, this chix’s bio  :wut  :whoo
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Buy it.
Post by: Transhuman on July 11, 2022, 05:11:50 AM
That is a clear parody account

The name is "Lesby" Bionic, ffs

Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Buy it.
Post by: BIONIC on July 11, 2022, 05:16:34 AM
That’s why I should’ve gone to comedy school instead of getting a worthless degree in [REDACTED]
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Buy it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on July 11, 2022, 05:45:19 AM
Tbf, there's always a chance it's a legit person and account these days :trumps
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: Occam on July 11, 2022, 01:12:09 PM
Sorry Joe, had to edit the title again to accurately reflect the stock price.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: chronovore on July 11, 2022, 08:17:42 PM
:trumps  :elon

Takes one to know one, I guess…
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: benjipwns on July 12, 2022, 01:11:56 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXaFFZVUsAAODCz?format=jpg&name=small)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXaIjOcXoAA67Sv?format=png&name=small)

 :hmm
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: VomKriege on July 13, 2022, 04:23:01 AM
https://twitter.com/RMFifthCircuit/status/1546965752913268746
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: MMaRsu on July 13, 2022, 08:21:48 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXgE3ssWAAEnV0M?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: VomKriege on July 13, 2022, 08:39:20 AM
That's petty but Musk, Trump and Twitter all being in a "everyone loses" brawl... Yes please.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: Transhuman on July 13, 2022, 08:42:27 AM
Trump, Twitter and Elon Musk is a very hard KFM
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 13, 2022, 10:28:43 AM
Kentucky Fried Muskrat?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: Transhuman on July 13, 2022, 11:43:40 AM
Sorry I forgot in the states it's called Fuck, Marry, Kill not Kill, Fuck, Marry
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: Polident Hive on July 13, 2022, 05:05:24 PM
Haven’t followed this but Twitter has gotten annoyingly aggressive about making an account. Past week they’ve hidden the x to close the pop up and repeatedly returns as you scroll. Lurking is a dying art.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: Nintex on July 13, 2022, 05:25:12 PM
Elon: "I'm going to be super popular on the internet if I vote Republican and buy Twitter lulz"  :elon

Trump: "GTFO with your toys nerd" :trumps


First high profile resignation from the Elon verse
https://twitter.com/karpathy/status/1547332300186066944 (https://twitter.com/karpathy/status/1547332300186066944)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: Uncle on July 14, 2022, 02:33:09 PM
Haven’t followed this but Twitter has gotten annoyingly aggressive about making an account. Past week they’ve hidden the x to close the pop up and repeatedly returns as you scroll. Lurking is a dying art.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/breakthrough-twitter-logi/ohhifopcgokjpbnppnmjbdnjnfcfnlep
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on July 14, 2022, 03:07:46 PM
Haven’t followed this but Twitter has gotten annoyingly aggressive about making an account. Past week they’ve hidden the x to close the pop up and repeatedly returns as you scroll. Lurking is a dying art.

some dirty bire personality here linked me to this:

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/breakthrough-twitter-logi/ohhifopcgokjpbnppnmjbdnjnfcfnlep
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: benjipwns on July 14, 2022, 04:33:34 PM
Haven’t followed this but Twitter has gotten annoyingly aggressive about making an account. Past week they’ve hidden the x to close the pop up and repeatedly returns as you scroll. Lurking is a dying art.
Heard there was an extension to possibly change this but don't know which one was being talked about, might be this one:

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/breakthrough-twitter-logi/ohhifopcgokjpbnppnmjbdnjnfcfnlep
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 14, 2022, 09:09:15 PM
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/07/musk-twitter-deal-break-lawsuit-claims/670515/

Good luck Elon.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: Occam on July 15, 2022, 03:04:00 PM
On the one hand, I'd love to see Muskrat pummeled into submission. On the other I'd like Twitter to remain independent.
Maybe we can get the best of both worlds (=he doesn't buy Twitter and instead pays a hefty fine for each share).
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on July 15, 2022, 04:14:40 PM
He'll either pay the billion, or get them down to like 20 billion  or pay the full 44 billion.


There's really no other choice.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 15, 2022, 07:01:08 PM
https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/15/23220797/elon-musk-twitter-trial-scheduling-delaware-acquisition-lawsuit

Surely you'd want to clear this up immediately if you had the bulletproof evidence you claim to have right. Unless it's all bullshit and he simply cannot afford the purchase (or fine) right now. Sand castle falling down, fellas.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on July 16, 2022, 01:58:29 PM
Imagine if you go buy a car you know has been in an accident and ask for the car fax, but the give you the car fox.

Same thing.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on July 16, 2022, 03:13:47 PM
Sorry I forgot in the states it's called Fuck, Marry, Kill not Kill, Fuck, Marry

Fuck Musk
Marry Trump
Kill Twitter

no brainer.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: Tasty on July 18, 2022, 10:08:45 PM
https://shouldibuytwitter.com
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 19, 2022, 06:07:27 PM
Tesla chief Elon Musk will face a court showdown with Twitter in October after losing a bid to delay the social media firm’s lawsuit against him.

Twitter is trying to force the billionaire to make good on his April promise to buy the company for $44bn (£37bn) and wanted the billionaire to be tried in court at the earliest possible date.

He wanted the date pushed back to February 2023.

“It became clear Musk was never going to take yes for an answer,” said Bill Savitt from Wachtell, representing Twitter. “Twitter can manage this and will manage this, but the company is faced with a substantial increase in risk … quite by Mr Musk’s design.”

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-loses-court-battle-164531223.html

Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on July 24, 2022, 03:23:55 PM
Elon Musk was such good friends with Sergey Brin, the founder of Google, that he used to crash at his Silicon Valley home on the way to becoming the richest person in the world.

Like any good pal would, Mr Brin even lent Musk $500 million to pop up Tesla in the early days. In return he received one of Tesla’s first all-electric sport-utility vehicles.

But the bromance has unravelled, according to friends, after Musk, 51, allegedly had a brief affair with Mr Brin's wife in December last year.

 :elon

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/07/24/elon-musk-had-affair-wife-google-founder-close-friend-sergey/
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: Potato on July 24, 2022, 03:42:01 PM
Hey tech bros, don't marry hot gold digging sluts that are out of your league. Eventually someone with more cash comes along and you're out of the picture.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 24, 2022, 03:51:59 PM
Hey tech bros, don't marry hot gold digging sluts that are out of your league. Eventually someone with more cash comes along and you're out of the picture.

*whispers* Sergey has more money than Elon.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: Potato on July 24, 2022, 03:55:51 PM
Hey tech bros, don't marry hot gold digging sluts that are out of your league. Eventually someone with more cash comes along and you're out of the picture.

*whispers* Sergey has more money than Elon.
It was a "brief" affair, reflecting the period of time that Elon was the richest man in the world.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on July 24, 2022, 05:28:40 PM
Putting the rat in Muskrat :tocry
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: Occam on July 24, 2022, 05:57:10 PM
in case u need to lose a boner fast
(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/07/elon-musk-shirtless-inspiration-01.jpg?quality=75&strip=all&w=1024)

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1517707521343082496 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1517707521343082496)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: Uncle on July 24, 2022, 06:09:09 PM
that looks like AOC getting up next to him  :o :o
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: BIONIC on July 24, 2022, 06:34:11 PM
Please stop body shaming  :social
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: Rufus on July 25, 2022, 04:41:59 AM
Hey tech bros, don't marry hot gold digging sluts that are out of your league. Eventually someone with more cash comes along and you're out of the picture.

*whispers* Sergey has more money than Elon.
It was a "brief" affair, reflecting the period of time that Elon was the richest man in the world.
Great save, dude. :doge
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: Nintex on July 27, 2022, 03:05:01 PM
https://twitter.com/adamhoov/status/1551951681004269569 (https://twitter.com/adamhoov/status/1551951681004269569)

 :yeshrug :elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on July 27, 2022, 05:03:56 PM
https://twitter.com/adamhoov/status/1551951681004269569 (https://twitter.com/adamhoov/status/1551951681004269569)

 :yeshrug :elon

hey kayne, i'm in bed with ur wife :skete :elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: zomgee on July 29, 2022, 11:42:17 AM
i often stand on tables to defend things
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 29, 2022, 12:55:10 PM
It's smart to take the high ground. 
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: Uncle on August 10, 2022, 07:53:44 AM
https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/9/23298841/former-twitter-employee-convicted-spying-saudi-arabia

 :titus
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: james on August 10, 2022, 12:22:22 PM
Quote
Elon Musk sells 7.92 million Tesla shares worth $6.88 billion

:pika

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/09/elon-musk-sells-7point92-million-tesla-shares-worth-6point88-billion.html
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: james on August 10, 2022, 01:47:29 PM
Quote
Introducing NFT profile pictures
What is an NFT?NFTs (short for Non-Fungible Tokens) are digital items that you own. Proof of ownership is stored on a blockchain, a digital database that is publicly accessible. Learn more
So what does this mean?
NFT profile pictures are displayed in a special hexagonal shape
To choose an NFT as your profile picture you must connect your crypto wallet

The fuck is this
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on August 10, 2022, 01:52:47 PM
lol people still care about this? :girlaff
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: Tasty on August 10, 2022, 03:09:28 PM
Quote
Introducing NFT profile pictures
What is an NFT?NFTs (short for Non-Fungible Tokens) are digital items that you own. Proof of ownership is stored on a blockchain, a digital database that is publicly accessible. Learn more
So what does this mean?
NFT profile pictures are displayed in a special hexagonal shape
To choose an NFT as your profile picture you must connect your crypto wallet

The fuck is this

Twitter attempting relevance.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: Maiden Voyage on August 11, 2022, 07:52:40 AM
Please stop body shaming  :social

Nevah
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on October 04, 2022, 01:15:52 PM
Elon Musk Changes Course And Proposes Going Through With Twitter Deal At Original Price

https://vigourtimes.com/elon-musk-changes-course-and-proposes-going-through-with-twitter-deal-at-original-price/

(https://media.tenor.com/f42nTKr9aggAAAAC/excited-ronpaul.gif)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: james on October 04, 2022, 01:16:51 PM
Man got destroyed by the court and the Ukraine simultaneously

 :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf

I can see him simply shutting down the website out of spite
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 04, 2022, 01:24:31 PM
I called it. My predictions are always right.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Abandon Twitter. Time to Sell it.
Post by: james on October 04, 2022, 01:35:42 PM
Big Brain Musk will propose buying it with Russian money and handing it over to his funders so Biden is forced to cancel the deal on security concerns giving Musk an escape hatch
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on October 04, 2022, 03:14:58 PM
It's going to be a glorious trainwreck  :lol

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fd2WAwjWAAA3eJZ?format=jpg)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on October 04, 2022, 03:43:17 PM
Twitter accepts

https://twitter.com/TwitterIR/status/1577380758192197632 (https://twitter.com/TwitterIR/status/1577380758192197632)

:rejoice
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 04, 2022, 04:39:12 PM
The hell is Vigour Times?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 04, 2022, 04:47:04 PM
The hell is Vigour Times?

The official newspaper publication of Jeb Bush.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 04, 2022, 09:17:34 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1577428272056389633

 :derp
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on October 04, 2022, 09:26:54 PM
Sorry Musk, Google already owns the letter X (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_(company)).
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 04, 2022, 10:11:00 PM
Guess a few days of legal discovery were too much for Elon huh. Who could have guessed.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on October 05, 2022, 09:21:05 AM
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/elon-musk-twitter-acquisition-deal-proposal-rcna50225

Quote
Elon Musk tells Twitter he'll go forward with acquisition if lawsuit stops
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 06, 2022, 09:19:34 AM
https://twitter.com/Independent/status/1577978410395115521

uh oh
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 06, 2022, 09:26:57 AM
:dead
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on October 06, 2022, 01:46:17 PM
The Elon Musk Twitter-take-over Russian-bot combo is truely incredible

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1577839258714476544 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1577839258714476544)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeX6Dq-XwAEiwnc?format=jpg)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 06, 2022, 06:31:37 PM
https://twitter.com/gabrielmalor/status/1578128260453597233
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on October 06, 2022, 06:36:27 PM
The deal is expected to close on the 28th

https://twitter.com/chancery_daily/status/1578137982996914177 (https://twitter.com/chancery_daily/status/1578137982996914177)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on October 17, 2022, 07:14:58 AM
Is this also a good place to talk about Kanye?

Kanye West To Acquire 'Uncancelable' Social Media Platform Parler

Quote
Kanye West, the rapper who also also goes by the name Ye, has reached an agreement to buy "uncancelable free speech platform" Parler, the two said in a statement Monday, in a move they said will help individuals express their conservative opinions freely. From a report:

As part of the deal, financial terms of which were not disclosed, Parler has agreed to sell fully to West but the social network will continue to receive technical support from Parlement Technologies, including access to its private cloud services and its data center infrastructure. The deal is expected to close in the ongoing quarter. West, who has accused Meta and Twitter of censoring him in recent weeks, said in a statement: "In a world where conservative opinions are considered to be controversial we have to make sure we have the right to freely express ourselves."

https://techcrunch.com/2022/10/17/kanye-west-to-acquire-uncancelable-social-media-platform-parler/
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 17, 2022, 10:24:18 AM
does anyone even use parler, i'd have thought the people who would be inclined to have migrated to trump social or whatever the fuck its called.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on October 17, 2022, 10:28:02 AM
Is this also a good place to talk about Kanye?

Kanye West To Acquire 'Uncancelable' Social Media Platform Parler

Quote
Kanye West, the rapper who also also goes by the name Ye, has reached an agreement to buy "uncancelable free speech platform" Parler, the two said in a statement Monday, in a move they said will help individuals express their conservative opinions freely. From a report:

As part of the deal, financial terms of which were not disclosed, Parler has agreed to sell fully to West but the social network will continue to receive technical support from Parlement Technologies, including access to its private cloud services and its data center infrastructure. The deal is expected to close in the ongoing quarter. West, who has accused Meta and Twitter of censoring him in recent weeks, said in a statement: "In a world where conservative opinions are considered to be controversial we have to make sure we have the right to freely express ourselves."

https://techcrunch.com/2022/10/17/kanye-west-to-acquire-uncancelable-social-media-platform-parler/

Anyone can start a blog. 🙄 Twitter doesn't owe anyone anything, and people are not owed an audience.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 17, 2022, 11:37:00 AM
So to recap, Kanye has multiple mental breakdowns. Later we learn he's spending a lot of time with Candace Owens and parroting her drivel. In 2018 after Candace lies claiming that Kanye designed a political clothing brand for her, Kanye disavows her and says he's done with politics.
https://slate.com/culture/2018/10/kanye-west-rejects-blexit-candace-owens-claims.html

By the following year he's back to making unhinged political statements and Candace returns. This week he does multiple interviews promoting her George Floyd documentary, in which she apparently claims he didn't die of asphyxia, the cop's knee was not harming Floyd, and maybe that he died of fentanyl instead. Today, Kanye announces he's purchasing Parlor. Who is the CEO of Parlor, you may ask?

spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/92/30/e3/9230e3f44ab9e3b67b0eedfce03e2b41.jpg)
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https://twitter.com/jaredlholt/status/1581986849647906817

It's abundantly clear she has been taking advantage of a mentally ill rich idiot for years and this is the big payday.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on October 17, 2022, 11:46:46 AM
Yass queen. Get that bag gurl  :playa
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on October 17, 2022, 01:09:36 PM
Melania queening also :trumps

https://twitter.com/drewharwell/status/1581362005793206272 (https://twitter.com/drewharwell/status/1581362005793206272)

https://twitter.com/NoahShachtman/status/1581798204399841280 (https://twitter.com/NoahShachtman/status/1581798204399841280)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on October 17, 2022, 06:15:30 PM
This is the dumbest cinematic universe but a cinematic universe nonetheless
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1582098917696901120 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1582098917696901120)

https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1582100702381240320 (https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1582100702381240320)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 17, 2022, 07:05:51 PM
Imagine watching Kanye rant about "Jewish media," accuse people who believe in the development and protection of a Jewish nation of convincing his wife to discuss her sex life on a television show....and saying "yea, this right here? That's what I'm talking about."  :lol

These people are hateful and deranged. The only reason Parlor is back on the app store is because they started moderating content. Does Kanye plan on removing moderation? Speaking of which, does Elon think Kanye's defcon 3 tweet about Jews should have been acceptable, and will that be allowed when (if?) he takes over Twitter?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Transhuman on October 17, 2022, 07:46:34 PM
If what Kanye wrote is legally permissible and doesn't break TOS I don't see why it should be removed, even if it's batshit crazy.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 17, 2022, 07:49:23 PM
Today, Kanye announces he's purchasing Parlor. Who is the CEO of Parlor, you may ask?
The only reason Parlor is back on the app store is because they started moderating content.
Is this some kind of joke about how pallor the skin color of people on it are? :hmm
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 18, 2022, 09:14:19 AM
Today, Kanye announces he's purchasing Parlor. Who is the CEO of Parlor, you may ask?
The only reason Parlor is back on the app store is because they started moderating content.
Is this some kind of joke about how pallor the skin color of people on it are? :hmm

No because I don't see color.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on October 20, 2022, 06:44:03 PM
https://twitter.com/exec_sum/status/1583226406430945281 (https://twitter.com/exec_sum/status/1583226406430945281)

:elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 20, 2022, 07:27:58 PM
He wanted to know how many bots were on Twitter so he could hire them to replace the employees.

 :elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on October 20, 2022, 10:21:10 PM
While Twitter had been planning cuts before the takeover, firing all but 2000 employees is nuts. Additionally, seems like Musk is way overpaying (well, it's probably mostly the banks' money). Kanye West on the other hand presumably isn't paying billions for Parler. Maybe Musk should have gone for that instead. ;)

Quote
Musk’s $44 billion bid, though hostile, is a golden ticket for the struggling company — potentially helping its leadership avoid painful announcements that would have demoralized the staff and possibly crippled the service’s ability to combat misinformation, hate speech and spam.

The impact of such layoffs would likely be immediately felt by millions of users, said Edwin Chen, a data scientist formerly in charge of Twitter’s spam and health metrics and now CEO of the content-moderation start-up Surge AI. He said that while he believed Twitter was overstaffed, the cuts Musk proposed were “unimaginable” and would put Twitter’s users at risk of hacks and exposure to offensive material such as child pornography.

“It would be a cascading effect,” he said, “where you’d have services going down and the people remaining not having the institutional knowledge to get them back up, and being completely demoralized and wanting to leave themselves.”

Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on October 20, 2022, 10:47:26 PM
https://twitter.com/exec_sum/status/1583226406430945281 (https://twitter.com/exec_sum/status/1583226406430945281)

:elon

something you don't admit until you're confident there's not enough advance notice for them to sabotage anything on the way out
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on October 20, 2022, 10:48:58 PM
Now do the other 25% :rejoice
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on October 20, 2022, 10:57:23 PM
Now do the other 25% :rejoice

 :whoo
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 20, 2022, 11:26:46 PM
(well, it's properly mostly the banks' money).
Don't make me report you to the Federal Republic of Germany for spreading disinformation online. :ufup
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on October 21, 2022, 12:47:45 AM
https://twitter.com/exec_sum/status/1583226406430945281 (https://twitter.com/exec_sum/status/1583226406430945281)

:elon

Corporate takeover 101

Fire 75% of employees. Hire 10,000 new people in India to do the same job for 90% less
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on October 21, 2022, 01:37:35 AM
Now do the other 25% :rejoice

 :whoo

(https://i.imgur.com/Ujyw6DF.gif)

:maf

(https://media.tenor.com/MwwGFGKliVwAAAAM/did-i-stutter-ari-montgomery.gif)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on October 21, 2022, 02:13:34 AM
(well, it's properly mostly the banks' money).
Don't make me report you to the Federal Republic of Germany for spreading disinformation online. :ufup

Seems autocorrect somehow turned probably into properly (mobile device), I normally don't use it.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: chronovore on October 21, 2022, 03:05:30 AM
Thread title now seems prescient.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: jorma on October 21, 2022, 04:55:42 AM
(well, it's properly mostly the banks' money).
Don't make me report you to the Federal Republic of Germany for spreading disinformation online. :ufup

Seems autocorrect somehow turned probably into properly (mobile device), I normally don't use it.

the german authorities would probably say that using mobile to surf the internet while not being a zoomer is no valid excuse

but that was properly not the part benji called misinformation since staking 13 out of the 44 billions cannot be described as "mostly their money"

Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 21, 2022, 10:13:07 AM
It was wild the other week seeing all the Blue Checks running around gloating and claiming that Musk couldn't afford it and was going to lose all of Tesla and then probably go bankrupt and wind up in jail when he had already sold enough stock and that's not how any of it works anyway.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 21, 2022, 10:17:01 AM
when's the deal going through? i want one last bit of blue tick schadenfreude with them acting like the apocalypse is neigh because they can't stomp their feet and get trump rebanned :girlaff

then we get to laugh when musk gets in his feelings cos someone called him a fanook and bans them :elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on October 21, 2022, 01:42:54 PM
I will enjoy unregulated Twitter for the 3 days EU citizens can access it.  :lol

It reminds me of a trick young Nintex did once to destroy a competitor. A friend of mine managed to hack an admin account of a rival Nintendo fansite thing.
They were pretty much like ResetEra is now, putting up appearances in public but then using their secret boards to talk shit about everybody behind their backs.
We knew it was bad from leaks but it was far more toxic can we could even imagine. Calling the lady who did PR for Nintendo an "ugly fat slut" and the PoC Ubisoft PR guy the "N-word" for not sending them review copies.

So I logged in with the admin account, demodded all the other admins and made all their secret mod boards public. So everyone could read how they really felt about their members, advertisers and PR contacts.
And to erase all our tracks, I deleted the hacked admin account also. It took them 2 days to figure out a way to pull down their site (it took advertisers/PR contacts less than 10 minutes to block and drop them) and those 2 days were absolute madness  :lol

Afterwards my friend freaked out because they announced they would bring lawsuits and hire a cyber security company to find out who did it.
At that point though I was already helping them built the case against a former staff member.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on October 21, 2022, 02:35:44 PM
Nintex is the 500 lb man laying on his bed in his basement that Trump warned us about all along  :info
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on October 21, 2022, 02:42:52 PM
NINTEX IS KIWIFARMS  :drudge :drudge :drudge
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BrokenVerses on October 21, 2022, 03:31:08 PM
Twitter is a turd of a site and I don't doubt that the staff is bloated but coming in with a chainsaw just seems like a good way to drive off the talent that you would actually want to retain.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 21, 2022, 03:48:59 PM
It was wild the other week seeing all the Blue Checks running around gloating and claiming that Musk couldn't afford it and was going to lose all of Tesla and then probably go bankrupt and wind up in jail when he had already sold enough stock and that's not how any of it works anyway.
One of my personal favorites in this genre, not a single statement in any of these tweets from this Harvard-employed lawyer is true, the replies to the first two are full of cheering, celebration gifs, "haha get fucked elon", "good things do happen", etc. and the tweets go unredacted, uncorrected and there's no apology for completely making shit up because lol why:
https://twitter.com/Esqueer_/status/1577785305591160833
https://twitter.com/Esqueer_/status/1577791692203229345

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https://twitter.com/tdotmcelwee/status/1577799475338399745
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https://twitter.com/loafstata/status/1577817743541342209
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Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on October 24, 2022, 08:11:55 PM
How it started:


Thankfully there is an open source alternative: Mastodon
Global social networks should not be owned by individuals, corporations or governments.

Mastodon just got an Android version 5 days ago:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.joinmastodon.android&gl=US

For those of us who don't use Google accounts, download Aurora Store using F-Droid and then open the link above with Aurora Store.



How it's going:

Mastodon.technology is shutting down (https://ashfurrow.com/blog/mastodon-technology-shutdown/)






Epilogue:

Jack Dorsey Unveils Bluesky Social, the Decentralized Twitter-Killer.
 (https://ssaurel.medium.com/jack-dorsey-unveils-bluesky-social-the-decentralized-twitter-killer-cc6eec0c56e5)

(https://media.tenor.com/8CQCGRUcNdkAAAAC/matthew-mc-conaughey-time.gif)

(https://i.imgur.com/OfXMTEu.gif)

Et cetera
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 24, 2022, 08:19:51 PM
IIRC, that was one of the things Dorsey couldn't get Twitter to research because they couldn't see how it would be endlessly profitable. I don't think he even wanted it to replace Twitter, just provide Twitter with options, and they had no interest.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on October 24, 2022, 08:29:33 PM
I'm so glad Twitter ditched their open API and researching decentralized business models to pursue """endless profitability""" (https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/TWTR/twitter/net-income).
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 24, 2022, 08:35:22 PM
No, no, Tasty, you just have to wait for the network effects to kick in once they have enough users and media interest.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 24, 2022, 08:39:10 PM
One of my favorite things on Twitter is the people who use Twitter constantly and often bitch about sinister algorithms manipulating the stupids on Facebook/YouTube but have yet to realize the trending thing is personalized and what they're seeing is not what is actually most trending and not what anyone else is seeing.

The bonus is when they make like fifty tweets about something they saw trending being angry that it's trending.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on October 25, 2022, 07:04:29 AM
How it's going:

Mastodon.technology is shutting down (https://ashfurrow.com/blog/mastodon-technology-shutdown/)

mastodon itself is not shutting down (and it really can't, since it's decentralized)

mastodon.technology is shutting down

it's like if reddit.com/r/technology was closed, but not reddit.com

and people are already spinning up a replacement
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 25, 2022, 08:44:18 AM
My favourite bit is going to be wheneveryone threatening to leave (oh no!) either comes back after a few weeks max because the alternatives fucking suck, or don't bother ever logging off, because they need that sweet sweet attention.

And they get to pretend to be the persecuted as blue tick intellectuals, and we all know playing the victim is the hot thing online now :phil

My hope is Musk makes terrible decisions, tanks whatever value it has, and the service withers and dies, probably changing hands multiple times over in the process.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on October 25, 2022, 11:05:36 AM
How it's going:

Mastodon.technology is shutting down (https://ashfurrow.com/blog/mastodon-technology-shutdown/)

mastodon itself is not shutting down (and it really can't, since it's decentralized)

mastodon.technology is shutting down

it's like if reddit.com/r/technology was closed, but not reddit.com

and people are already spinning up a replacement


(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/WildSickJumpingbean-max-1mb.gif)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on October 25, 2022, 01:43:15 PM
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1584962911700557824 (https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1584962911700557824)

(https://c.tenor.com/4_G05Z_nPzIAAAAC/trump-kanye.gif)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on October 25, 2022, 04:30:08 PM
https://twitter.com/davidfaber/status/1584961475281494016 (https://twitter.com/davidfaber/status/1584961475281494016)

https://twitter.com/jason_howerton/status/1584934801122869251 (https://twitter.com/jason_howerton/status/1584934801122869251)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on October 25, 2022, 04:58:13 PM
price too high imo
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BrokenVerses on October 25, 2022, 06:08:20 PM
price too high imo

I don't think anyone would dispute that lol, the board has to be laughing at the price they're getting for offloading this turd.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Polident Hive on October 25, 2022, 06:15:06 PM
My favourite bit is going to be wheneveryone threatening to leave (oh no!) either comes back after a few weeks max because the alternatives fucking suck, or don't bother ever logging off, because they need that sweet sweet attention.

And they get to pretend to be the persecuted as blue tick intellectuals, and we all know playing the victim is the hot thing online now :phil

My hope is Musk makes terrible decisions, tanks whatever value it has, and the service withers and dies, probably changing hands multiple times over in the process.

Knowing how some people over value the verified status, disrupting it would be a funny choice.

My limited understanding of the current process involved sending various notes of personal data to get approved?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on October 26, 2022, 05:00:03 AM
Mastodon usage continues to rise, but it's still tiny compared to twitter. It now has 3.4 million users.
For instance, the number of Chinese Mastodon users tripled in recent months, from 50,000 to 156,000 (as of August 2022) as more and more Chinese try to escape ever tightening state censorship.

Given his prominence, maybe Jack Dorsey's Bluesky Social has a better chance to become a viable alternative to Twitter. The more, the merrier.

Can't help but feeling schadenfreude about Musk having to grossly overpay for Twitter.

Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 26, 2022, 06:27:27 AM
My favourite bit is going to be wheneveryone threatening to leave (oh no!) either comes back after a few weeks max because the alternatives fucking suck, or don't bother ever logging off, because they need that sweet sweet attention.

And they get to pretend to be the persecuted as blue tick intellectuals, and we all know playing the victim is the hot thing online now :phil

My hope is Musk makes terrible decisions, tanks whatever value it has, and the service withers and dies, probably changing hands multiple times over in the process.

Knowing how some people over value the verified status, disrupting it would be a funny choice.

My limited understanding of the current process involved sending various notes of personal data to get approved?

I know that if you work in the media the outlet will sort it for you with twitter (if it's big enough), idk other than that.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on October 26, 2022, 06:09:54 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1585341984679469056 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1585341984679469056)

:rejoice
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on October 26, 2022, 08:43:54 PM
Twitter is losing its most active users, internal documents show
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/25/twitter-losing-most-active-users-internal-documents.html

Interesting: "“Heavy tweeters” account for less than 10% of monthly overall users but generate 90% of all tweets and half of global revenue."
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 27, 2022, 12:00:13 AM
Elon's first job needs to be fixing the QTs so they actually load when you click to see them instead of showing the parrot. :rage
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 27, 2022, 01:19:36 AM
https://twitter.com/ParikPatelCFA/status/1585369936347922432
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on October 27, 2022, 02:56:46 PM
The deal is done. Elon now owns Twitter. :rejoice

https://twitter.com/MikeSington/status/1585634189310717956 (https://twitter.com/MikeSington/status/1585634189310717956)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on October 27, 2022, 03:01:47 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/XTnH8Q5.png)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on October 27, 2022, 03:39:43 PM
:phil Time to burn :rejoice
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on October 27, 2022, 04:12:27 PM
is elon gonna tweet the n word  ???
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Himu on October 27, 2022, 04:27:05 PM
:rejoice Save us Musk
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Himu on October 27, 2022, 04:33:55 PM
Twitter is losing its most active users, internal documents show
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/25/twitter-losing-most-active-users-internal-documents.html

Interesting: "“Heavy tweeters” account for less than 10% of monthly overall users but generate 90% of all tweets and half of global revenue."

Oh no. The Tumblr users that came to Twitter after that site died are moving on.

Anyways...
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on October 27, 2022, 07:16:33 PM
How it started
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgEF-jDXEAANu6G?format=jpg)

How it is going
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgEF1rwXoAAXcEQ?format=jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgEF7dEXEAAE_i1?format=jpg)

Tesla engineers at Twitter to review the code. LFG!
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 27, 2022, 09:17:33 PM
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1585796844126457856

 :elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on October 27, 2022, 09:51:31 PM
He mad the twitter lawyer destroyed his yes men lawyers

 :girlaff :crowdlaff
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 27, 2022, 09:51:59 PM
How it started
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgEF-jDXEAANu6G?format=jpg)

How it is going
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgEF1rwXoAAXcEQ?format=jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgEF7dEXEAAE_i1?format=jpg)

Tesla engineers at Twitter to review the code. LFG!

Fired

https://twitter.com/neilcybart/status/1585796124400840704

Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 27, 2022, 09:52:24 PM
So you're saying this might work out?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on October 27, 2022, 09:54:37 PM
Moderation in Twitter has always been terrible, so the challenge is getting worse or getting better. Just like Musk maniac episodes…
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Himu on October 27, 2022, 10:20:31 PM
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1585796844126457856

 :elon

:sabu
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on October 27, 2022, 10:26:35 PM
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1585796844126457856

 :elon

:sabu

You know this means they get to collect severance right

CEO is getting a briefcase with $60million to never have to listen to Musk.

Thats called winning.

This isnt like the time you got fired from the 7-11 eating a hotdog without paying
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on October 27, 2022, 10:34:01 PM
https://twitter.com/vijaya/status/1584586146641608713
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 27, 2022, 10:34:03 PM
CEO is getting a briefcase with $60million to never have to listen to Musk.
Is that figure accurate? The Lakers might be on line one asking Musk to hold off because they have a deal to offer first.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Himu on October 27, 2022, 11:20:29 PM
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1585796844126457856

 :elon

:sabu

You know this means they get to collect severance right

CEO is getting a briefcase with $60million to never have to listen to Musk.

Thats called winning.

This isnt like the time you got fired from the 7-11 eating a hotdog without paying

Who cares. If they're winning so much how come Twitter people are freaking out about this takeover? lmao Get real and suck Twitter's cock elsewhere. This is a thread having laughs.

(https://i.imgur.com/xIWsvtO.gif)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 27, 2022, 11:42:39 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/xIWsvtO.gif)
They need to bring back Limitless like they did Dexter. Only, it should be good like the original series.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on October 27, 2022, 11:52:29 PM
:phil Time to burn :rejoice

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1585796844126457856

https://twitter.com/neilcybart/status/1585796124400840704


🔥 DRACARYS 🔥
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on October 28, 2022, 12:04:57 AM
CEO is getting a briefcase with $60million to never have to listen to Musk.
Is that figure accurate? The Lakers might be on line one asking Musk to hold off because they have a deal to offer first.

I saw it on a reddit comment so I can only assume its true
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on October 28, 2022, 12:35:34 AM
My interest in this is just the LOLs. However, what I'd like to see happen is someone writes some code that immediately trawls through all the tweets since this saga began and auto bans anyone who said they were going to delete their accounts and didn't.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on October 28, 2022, 01:06:13 AM
https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1585859852500611073
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on October 28, 2022, 01:15:04 AM
https://twitter.com/edzitron/status/1585843831894732801

https://twitter.com/edzitron/status/1585844417126051840

Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on October 28, 2022, 02:59:31 AM
Awww yissss freedom of speech :rejoice

https://twitter.com/tomcoates/status/1585847659201372160 (https://twitter.com/tomcoates/status/1585847659201372160)
Blue checks melting down everywhere
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 28, 2022, 03:22:26 AM
Who did these people think owned Twitter before Musk?

That guy is NOT MAD DO NOT PUT IN THE NEWSPAPER I WAS MAD replying to the replies he got as we speak:
https://twitter.com/tomcoates/status/1585878712486019073
https://twitter.com/tomcoates/status/1585891123569971201
https://twitter.com/tomcoates/status/1585893984672456704
https://twitter.com/tomcoates/status/1585894143728898048
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 28, 2022, 03:23:51 AM
twitter.com/edzitron/status/1585844417126051840
https://twitter.com/BlueDogsGuitar/status/1585835124280610816
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 28, 2022, 03:25:45 AM
https://twitter.com/georgehahn/status/1585838141881163779

https://twitter.com/JoJoFromJerz/status/1585823703832887296

https://twitter.com/indictmentduck/status/1585805481892888582

https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1585827015617298432

https://twitter.com/CompanyHooch/status/1585814159559905281

https://twitter.com/Angry_Staffer/status/1585798514885693440

 :mouf
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 28, 2022, 03:31:05 AM
https://twitter.com/RottenInDenmark/status/1585638963104329731

 :dead :dead :dead :dead
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on October 28, 2022, 09:37:51 AM
These people are so embarrassing :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Himu on October 28, 2022, 09:41:33 AM
:dead

I can't wait for the Bee's posts once they're back up
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 28, 2022, 09:42:49 AM
There's so many tweeting about how Elon (often with some version of trying to censor his name) will have to force them off Twitter "personally" or have to ban them himself it's nuts. One of the richest men in the world can get tons of media coverage about why he wants to do something and they'll still twist it into some kind of sinister plan of deception to actually target them personally. :lol

"I want less bans for stuff."
"YOU'LL HAVE TO PRY IT FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS E|*N"
 :elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on October 28, 2022, 09:54:32 AM
Being fair, he is not beyond being a petty asshole. Don’t forget the scuba diver saga, Benji.  :ufup
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on October 28, 2022, 10:36:15 AM
People should get "Elon is a pedophile" trending and see what happens
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Himu on October 28, 2022, 10:46:43 AM
https://twitter.com/TaylorLorenz/status/1585855168679010305

:sabu
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Himu on October 28, 2022, 10:55:10 AM
It's not even 10 am and it's ready glorious
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Himu on October 28, 2022, 10:58:22 AM
https://twitter.com/SIfill_/status/1586007556207411200

Trump next?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on October 28, 2022, 11:02:54 AM
Being fair, he is not beyond being a petty asshole. Don’t forget the scuba diver saga, Benji.  :ufup

Elon is an attention-whore shitposter, who, like most public-facing rich people feel compelled to bloviate about themselves and their beliefs to feel adulation from a crowd.  He's done impressive stuff from a business perspective, though -- still it's very easy to avoid how annoying he is: just get off Twitter.   It's these disgusting, man and womenchildren that are too addicted to social media to do anything but whine and cry, and have no real convictions about anything that are the most despicable people in all of this.  Then they turn their lack of conviction from something that is shameful into a badge of courage by aggrandizing the threat of some annoying shitposter into some superfascist that they're defending against by staying on the platform.   Truly the most obnoxious people on earth.  I've seen this a million times as a vegan for ethical reasons - so many progressives will agree with the ethics, but will do anything to avoid doing anything that involves actual work or conviction, and then, to avoid the dissonance and shame, they'll trick themselves into thinking lacking a conviction and follow-through is actually the moral stance.   Get off Twitter or stop complaining about it, you fucking losers.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on October 28, 2022, 11:09:42 AM
Pandering to antisemites is a bold move for a car company
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on October 28, 2022, 11:17:34 AM
How do I use dogecoin to buy followers
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Himu on October 28, 2022, 11:36:48 AM
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1585993471084482560

There's no liberal media!!!!!

And the Verge shows the lows of liberal reactionary emotional displays :sabu

https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/28/23428132/elon-musk-twitter-acquisition-problems-speech-moderation

Quote
Welcome to Hell, Elon.

You fucked up real good, kiddo.

Twitter is a disaster clown car company that is successful despite itself, and there is no possible way to grow users and revenue without making a series of enormous compromises that will ultimately destroy your reputation and possibly cause grievous damage to your other companies.

I say this with utter confidence because the problems with Twitter are not engineering problems. They are political problems. Twitter, the company, makes very little interesting technology; the tech stack is not the valuable asset. The asset is the user base: hopelessly addicted politicians, reporters, celebrities, and other people who should know better but keep posting anyway. You! You, Elon Musk, are addicted to Twitter. You’re the asset. You just bought yourself for $44 billion dollars.

The problem when the asset is people is that people are intensely complicated, and trying to regulate how people behave is historically a miserable experience, especially when that authority is vested in a single powerful individual.

What I mean is that you are now the King of Twitter, and people think that you, personally, are responsible for everything that happens on Twitter now. It also turns out that absolute monarchs usually get murdered when shit goes sideways.

This is journalism?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on October 28, 2022, 11:43:47 AM
Quote
Twitter, the company, makes very little interesting technology; the tech stack is not the valuable asset. The asset is the user base: hopelessly addicted politicians, reporters, celebrities, and other people who should know better but keep posting anyway.

We swear we're leaving!  We swear we're gonna leave, you fascist!   ....but in the meantime, what we're going to do is adjust settings.  Tweak some more settings.  Block advertisers.  Write to the Twitter board of directors.  Stand our ground like Ukrainians.  ...do some damage via retweets...

But remember, you have no power over us.  The tech is terrible.  We're the ones in power.  And just you wait until I adjust my settings again!
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BrokenVerses on October 28, 2022, 11:51:21 AM
How do I use dogecoin to buy followers

You cut out the middleman and light your money on fire in your backyard.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Polident Hive on October 28, 2022, 12:02:02 PM
Knew who wrote that corny verge rant before clicking on it. Same guy who had a full meltdown on Twitter when somebody pointed out he wore a hot topic spiky bracelet in his 40s.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on October 28, 2022, 12:18:20 PM
How do I use dogecoin to buy followers

You cut out the middleman and light your money on fire in your backyard.

I just want to be popular enough to have a pose of reply guys. Is that so much to ask for
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on October 28, 2022, 12:26:20 PM
https://twitter.com/GovHowardDean/status/1585951004276961280


It's been 5 hours and this guy has 14 tweets after this one.  He's not going anywhere.   
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Himu on October 28, 2022, 12:31:30 PM
Libs : :neogaf
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on October 28, 2022, 12:32:48 PM
https://twitter.com/georgehahn/status/1585838141881163779

https://twitter.com/JoJoFromJerz/status/1585823703832887296

https://twitter.com/indictmentduck/status/1585805481892888582

https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1585827015617298432

https://twitter.com/CompanyHooch/status/1585814159559905281

https://twitter.com/Angry_Staffer/status/1585798514885693440

 :mouf

By not leaving they're directly lining Elon's pockets. The JK Rowling Corollary now applies.

Checkmate, you performative hypocrites :playa :elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 28, 2022, 12:36:37 PM
I still remain dumbfounded by those people who are going insane over Elon buying Twitter. If you asked any of those left wing blue checkmark people they'll tell you that twitter is already filled with nazis, harassers and -phobes of every kind, so what exactly are they so terrified about? That Trump comes back? The guy who had a twitter account for years and years? I'm sure him coming back will be what ruins democracy  ::)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on October 28, 2022, 12:37:50 PM
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1585993471084482560

There's no liberal media!!!!!

And the Verge shows the lows of liberal reactionary emotional displays :sabu

https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/28/23428132/elon-musk-twitter-acquisition-problems-speech-moderation

Quote
Welcome to Hell, Elon.

You fucked up real good, kiddo.

Twitter is a disaster clown car company that is successful despite itself, and there is no possible way to grow users and revenue without making a series of enormous compromises that will ultimately destroy your reputation and possibly cause grievous damage to your other companies.

I say this with utter confidence because the problems with Twitter are not engineering problems. They are political problems. Twitter, the company, makes very little interesting technology; the tech stack is not the valuable asset. The asset is the user base: hopelessly addicted politicians, reporters, celebrities, and other people who should know better but keep posting anyway. You! You, Elon Musk, are addicted to Twitter. You’re the asset. You just bought yourself for $44 billion dollars.

The problem when the asset is people is that people are intensely complicated, and trying to regulate how people behave is historically a miserable experience, especially when that authority is vested in a single powerful individual.

What I mean is that you are now the King of Twitter, and people think that you, personally, are responsible for everything that happens on Twitter now. It also turns out that absolute monarchs usually get murdered when shit goes sideways.

This is journalism?

The Verge is and has been trash since Topolsky left years and years ago.

https://web.archive.org/web/20160113194132/https://nextshark.com/nilay-patel-apple-watch-review-bracelet-tantrum/
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Himu on October 28, 2022, 12:38:30 PM
I still remain dumbfounded by those people who are going insane over Elon buying Twitter. If you asked any of those left wing blue checkmark people they'll tell you that twitter is already filled with nazis, harassers and -phobes of every kind, so what exactly are they so terrified about? That Trump comes back? The guy who had a twitter account for years and years? I'm sure him coming back will be what ruins democracy  ::)

Yeah if Twitter is so filled with Nazis why do they even use the platform? Trump was on Twitter for years and was very prominent but they didn't stop using it. I don't get it.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on October 28, 2022, 12:39:51 PM
Also WaPo is a chess piece for Bezos. Seen in that light it's no wonder they'd be chicken littling the whole thing to bring Elon down a peg.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Himu on October 28, 2022, 12:46:32 PM

https://web.archive.org/web/20160113194132/https://nextshark.com/nilay-patel-apple-watch-review-bracelet-tantrum/

:lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on October 28, 2022, 12:51:05 PM
I still remain dumbfounded by those people who are going insane over Elon buying Twitter. If you asked any of those left wing blue checkmark people they'll tell you that twitter is already filled with nazis, harassers and -phobes of every kind, so what exactly are they so terrified about? That Trump comes back? The guy who had a twitter account for years and years? I'm sure him coming back will be what ruins democracy  ::)

You don't understand:  It would be too much to ask private media companies and private citizens to consciously not report on Donald Trump's tweets, which become existential threat death con 3 status once they gain traction.   Terrible nazi-like things just happen from peoples' mouths and keyboards and we're helpless to stop the words.  And once the words come out, it's all over.   Clamping down on words is our last defense. 
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Himu on October 28, 2022, 12:52:27 PM
Once Trump is unbanned will the Nazis come for all of us?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on October 28, 2022, 12:54:22 PM
https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/28/23428132/elon-musk-twitter-acquisition-problems-speech-moderation

Quote
Welcome to Hell, Elon.

You fucked up real good, kiddo.

Twitter is a disaster clown car company that is successful despite itself, and there is no possible way to grow users and revenue without making a series of enormous compromises that will ultimately destroy your reputation and possibly cause grievous damage to your other companies.

I say this with utter confidence because the problems with Twitter are not engineering problems. They are political problems. Twitter, the company, makes very little interesting technology; the tech stack is not the valuable asset. The asset is the user base: hopelessly addicted politicians, reporters, celebrities, and other people who should know better but keep posting anyway. You! You, Elon Musk, are addicted to Twitter. You’re the asset. You just bought yourself for $44 billion dollars.

The problem when the asset is people is that people are intensely complicated, and trying to regulate how people behave is historically a miserable experience, especially when that authority is vested in a single powerful individual.

What I mean is that you are now the King of Twitter, and people think that you, personally, are responsible for everything that happens on Twitter now. It also turns out that absolute monarchs usually get murdered when shit goes sideways.

This is journalism?

Quote
What I mean is that you are now the King of Twitter, and people think that you, personally, are responsible for everything that happens on Twitter now. It also turns out that absolute monarchs usually get murdered when shit goes sideways.

i-in the digital realm...?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Himu on October 28, 2022, 12:56:45 PM
https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/status/1586011251381239808
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Himu on October 28, 2022, 01:03:50 PM
https://twitter.com/TaylorLorenz/status/1586022045879398401

The Liberal agenda on the prowl
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on October 28, 2022, 01:40:20 PM
https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/28/23428132/elon-musk-twitter-acquisition-problems-speech-moderation

Quote
Welcome to Hell, Elon.

You fucked up real good, kiddo.

Twitter is a disaster clown car company that is successful despite itself, and there is no possible way to grow users and revenue without making a series of enormous compromises that will ultimately destroy your reputation and possibly cause grievous damage to your other companies.

I say this with utter confidence because the problems with Twitter are not engineering problems. They are political problems. Twitter, the company, makes very little interesting technology; the tech stack is not the valuable asset. The asset is the user base: hopelessly addicted politicians, reporters, celebrities, and other people who should know better but keep posting anyway. You! You, Elon Musk, are addicted to Twitter. You’re the asset. You just bought yourself for $44 billion dollars.

The problem when the asset is people is that people are intensely complicated, and trying to regulate how people behave is historically a miserable experience, especially when that authority is vested in a single powerful individual.

What I mean is that you are now the King of Twitter, and people think that you, personally, are responsible for everything that happens on Twitter now. It also turns out that absolute monarchs usually get murdered when shit goes sideways.

This is journalism?

Quote
What I mean is that you are now the King of Twitter, and people think that you, personally, are responsible for everything that happens on Twitter now. It also turns out that absolute monarchs usually get murdered when shit goes sideways.

i-in the digital realm...?

Quote
It also turns out that absolute monarchs usually get murdered when shit goes sideways.

[citation needed]

Benji?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 28, 2022, 02:18:37 PM
lol @ Taylor Lorenz still being on, you;d have thought she'd have at least done a performative quit for a week or so citing feeling unsafe or some shit :neogaf
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on October 28, 2022, 02:39:40 PM
If they don't like the moderation, they're free to create their own platform
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on October 28, 2022, 02:42:11 PM
https://twitter.com/michelletandler/status/1585688977952059392
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on October 28, 2022, 02:47:22 PM
 :social2 "Elon Musk is a Nazi!"

*Gets into their Tesla to pick up a soy latte and downloads a digital copy of the New York Times using free WiFi from Trump Tower*
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 28, 2022, 02:56:20 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1586059953311137792

Oh my god, what a monster
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on October 28, 2022, 03:11:06 PM
Council member 1: Kill all the jews
Council member 2: Kill most of the jews
Council member 3: Kill some of the jews


Guess we're going with member 2 who is the centrist position!
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on October 28, 2022, 03:13:58 PM
Surely the centrist position is actually kill some of the Jews and then let them kill some of us?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on October 28, 2022, 03:16:29 PM

https://web.archive.org/web/20160113194132/https://nextshark.com/nilay-patel-apple-watch-review-bracelet-tantrum/

:lol :lol :lol

More Verge cringe :clap

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/the-verges-gaming-pc-build-video

And let's not forget, their sister site, Polygon :clap

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/press-reset-the-story-of-polygon-financed-by-microsoft-for-750-000.487897/
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on October 28, 2022, 03:41:08 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1586059953311137792

Oh my god, what a monster
lmao this is already cringe as fuck.

Guess Rogan is on this clown council too  :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Himu on October 28, 2022, 03:56:09 PM
The Empire in Star Wars had a counsel too!!
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 28, 2022, 04:25:53 PM
Quote
It also turns out that absolute monarchs usually get murdered when shit goes sideways.

[citation needed]

Benji?
The qualifier lets him get away with it because he'll just claim that person wasn't an absolute monarch. Or probably that shit didn't go sideways or something.

The metaphor makes literally no sense because monarchs don't actually own their realms and everything in it, they only claim they do and it requires the tacit approval of the population at minimum. The Magna Carta was 800 years ago or so. Musk could shut down Twitter just because and nobody can do shit about it. It's actually his property now and the only other people who have a claim on it are the minority investors.

More Verge cringe :clap

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/the-verges-gaming-pc-build-video
Didn't they go around copyright striking people who tried to mock this?

I still remain dumbfounded by those people who are going insane over Elon buying Twitter. If you asked any of those left wing blue checkmark people they'll tell you that twitter is already filled with nazis, harassers and -phobes of every kind, so what exactly are they so terrified about? That Trump comes back? The guy who had a twitter account for years and years? I'm sure him coming back will be what ruins democracy  ::)

You don't understand:  It would be too much to ask private media companies and private citizens to consciously not report on Donald Trump's tweets, which become existential threat death con 3 status once they gain traction.   Terrible nazi-like things just happen from peoples' mouths and keyboards and we're helpless to stop the words.  And once the words come out, it's all over.   Clamping down on words is our last defense.
Weird, it's like everything they do somehow always has the same solution: deny everyone else their rights. Very odd, there must be some explanation somewhere because what is the actual probability that every problem can actually be solved by outlawing the sharing of the truth?

If they don't like the moderation, they're free to create their own platform
Marginalized people can't create their own platforms, fascist. You're arguing that they should be denied their right to speak by a method of their choosing, which is literally treason to advocate. This is why Twitter needs to be owned and operated by the federal government and make it so when you tweet @FBI they actually do go and arrest that person and throw away the key. Free speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on October 28, 2022, 04:27:05 PM
It remains a fact that the only two ways I and most other functional human beings ever find out about all the racist, misogynistic, bigoted and vile tweets is because all these blue check mark knobs constantly signal boost them all over other media. If they all left like they keep threatening, then no one would ever read them.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 28, 2022, 04:32:08 PM
It remains a fact that the only two ways I and most other functional human beings ever find out about all the racist, misogynistic, bigoted and vile tweets is because all these blue check mark knobs constantly signal boost them all over other media. If they all left like they keep threatening, then no one would ever read them.
Everyone in the media freaks out about Trump for months, outrages each other into a frenzy, then leaves Twitter to go to their actual media jobs with people who are all also on Twitter freaking out and decides to fill every outlet with constant outrage about Trump tweets to where Trump brags to people about how he can get CNN to cover his tweets and says "watch this" then tweets random shit until CNN does BREAKING NEWS. (All the while everyone does as normal and doesn't trust the media so assumes Trump must be a truth-teller if he's getting this much coverage and the media is upset about it.)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdmM5cBWAAAS7nJ?format=jpg&name=small)

 :pika HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN? THEY ASK REPEATEDLY! THIS IS NOT NORMAL! :pika
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on October 28, 2022, 06:48:07 PM
btw the kid who was tracking elon's jet is not yet banned

https://twitter.com/ElonJet/status/1585491249544536065
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Himu on October 28, 2022, 06:50:51 PM
btw the kid who was tracking elon's jet is not yet banned

https://twitter.com/ElonJet/status/1585491249544536065
Bubububu Elon is a short fused, thin skinned rich billionaire! He hates free speech!

Amazing how they've manage to make Elon fucking Musk sympathetic. Your brain on progressivism. LULS.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 28, 2022, 07:15:36 PM
https://twitter.com/avi_eisen/status/1585319473447596033
https://twitter.com/avi_eisen/status/1585319478480752640
https://twitter.com/avi_eisen/status/1585651464721993728
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on October 28, 2022, 07:19:06 PM
I want to go find a photo posted by this person and reply to him with an edited version immediately

maybe the neogaf color outline guys  :thinking
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on October 28, 2022, 07:21:04 PM
benji you betrayed us, that's a cryptobro trollin

https://twitter.com/avi_eisen/status/1585996691458887680
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 28, 2022, 07:23:13 PM
benji you betrayed us, that's a cryptobro trollin
So you're saying there should be limits to free speech? Checkmate, atheist. :smug
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Transhuman on October 28, 2022, 07:34:04 PM
The Empire in Star Wars had a counsel too!!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-29/darth-vader-designer-suit-elon-musk-twitter-takeover-domination/101591612

My tax dollars paid for this.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 28, 2022, 07:56:30 PM
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-29/darth-vader-designer-suit-elon-musk-twitter-takeover-domination/101591612

My tax dollars paid for this.
Quote from: first sentence
Do you think Darth Vader learned to Force choke his disappointing underlings mostly because a lack of gravity in space prevented him simply chucking people off the Death Star?
It'd still kill them though?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 28, 2022, 08:02:41 PM
Tech journalists are truly the worst of the worst
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on October 28, 2022, 08:36:41 PM
It remains a fact that the only two ways I and most other functional human beings ever find out about all the racist, misogynistic, bigoted and vile tweets is because all these blue check mark knobs constantly signal boost them all over other media. If they all left like they keep threatening, then no one would ever read them.
Everyone in the media freaks out about Trump for months, outrages each other into a frenzy, then leaves Twitter to go to their actual media jobs with people who are all also on Twitter freaking out and decides to fill every outlet with constant outrage about Trump tweets to where Trump brags to people about how he can get CNN to cover his tweets and says "watch this" then tweets random shit until CNN does BREAKING NEWS. (All the while everyone does as normal and doesn't trust the media so assumes Trump must be a truth-teller if he's getting this much coverage and the media is upset about it.)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdmM5cBWAAAS7nJ?format=jpg&name=small)

 :pika HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN? THEY ASK REPEATEDLY! THIS IS NOT NORMAL! :pika

soon

(https://helios-i.mashable.com/imagery/articles/05GTFx8bU5b23BCAl1YhsOv/hero-image.fill.size_1248x702.v1611615715.png)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 28, 2022, 09:13:20 PM
https://twitter.com/conor64/status/1585936573828403201
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 28, 2022, 09:47:23 PM
They know he had the ability to tweet already, right?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Himu on October 28, 2022, 10:47:44 PM
The Empire in Star Wars had a counsel too!!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-29/darth-vader-designer-suit-elon-musk-twitter-takeover-domination/101591612

My tax dollars paid for this.

What
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 28, 2022, 11:13:11 PM
BREAKING: PEOPLE ON TWITTER TWEETING NORMALLY, MEDIA NOTICES
Quote from: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/10/28/musk-twitter-racist-posts/
An emboldened cast of anonymous trolls spewed racist slurs and Nazi memes onto Twitter in the hours after billionaire industrialist Elon Musk took over the social network, raising fears that his pledge of unrestricted free speech could fuel a new wave of online hate.

The flood of racist posts was among the most prominent signs of how Twitter had changed in the first hours of Musk’s ownership. But those who were expecting even bigger changes, such as the restoration of former president Donald Trump’s account and the layoff of hundreds if not thousands of Twitter employees, will have to wait longer.

...

Racial slurs were posted rampantly. One single-word tweet, showing a single racial slur in all capital letters, was retweeted more than 700 times and liked more than 5,000 times. It was tweeted Thursday night and remained online more than 16 hours later.

One account, created this month, included a Nazi swastika as its profile picture and retweeted quotes from Musk alongside antisemitic memes. Another tweet, showing a video montage glorifying Nazi Germany with the comment, “I hear that there have been some changes around here,” was liked more than 400 times.

The Network Contagion Research Institute (NCRI), a group that analyzes hundreds of millions of messages across social media, said use of the n-word on the app spiked nearly 500 percent over the 12 hours after Musk’s deal was finalized.

By Friday afternoon, misogynistic and anti-LGBTQ messages had become increasingly prominent, including from accounts calling for the harassment and misnaming of transgender people or the use of terms, like “groomer,” to insinuate that they sexually recruit children.

“Almost immediately I noticed an increase in anti-trans harassment, it’s very visible,” said Erin Reed, a trans activist and legislative researcher. “I’m seeing more people in comments with explicit threats, more misgendering, more harmful slurs. I’ve gotten pictures of me getting shot by a shotgun. It’s a pretty scary environment on Twitter right now.”

...

Alex Goldenberg, NCRI’s lead intelligence analyst, said the swarm of racial slurs organized on anonymous forums such as 4chan was intended “to make as big a mess as possible for Twitter’s new management.”

...

Some Twitter rules, however, still appeared to apply. Stew Peters, a far-right conspiracy theorist and radio host who was banned from Twitter, created a new account Thursday night and posted, “I’m BAAAAAAAAAAACK.” By Friday morning, however, the account had been suspended.
Only source Erin Reed is the known liar and Twitter nut ErinInTheMorn and is not actually employed as an activist or researcher.

Quote from: https://www.vice.com/en/article/jgpkqb/elon-musk-twitter-neo-nazis
Minutes after Elon Musk became Twitter’s official owner, the platform was filled with vile hate speech as users celebrated.

The very first hours of Musk’s stewardship of the social media platform have been dominated by his supporters relishing their ability to use profane slurs and racial epithets, and a torrent of racist, antisemitic, Islamophobic, homophobic, and transphobic hate speech continued Friday morning.

“Since Elon Musk made Twitter free speech haven, I'll say this: FUCK N*****S,” one account tweeted. “Fuck n*****s and fuck the jews,” another tweeted alongside a picture of Pepe the Frog, a far-right symbol.

Other Twitter users documented other examples of hate speech proliferating on the site Thursday evening and into Friday morning.

...

Many of the earlier tweets have been deleted and some of the accounts suspended, indicating that Twitter’s moderation policies remain in place. However, those systems are being harshly tested on Friday morning as a search of the latest tweets for a variety of hateful phrases shows a seemingly unending stream of toxic content.

...

Users celebrating Musk’s Twitter takeover have also felt emboldened to directly target others. A number of users, predominantly women, have said that the level of abuse they’re receiving has shot up in the hours since Musk’s takeover.
The only sources for any of this? Known liars and Twitter nuts Taylor Lorenz and Alejandra Caraballo. :lol

Quote from: https://www.theroot.com/racists-rejoiced-when-elon-musk-officially-acquired-twi-1849715487
When it was announced that Musk was officially in charge of Twitter, racist slurs were shared on the platform in droves overnight. For example, one tweet displayed a video montage praising Nazi Germany and was captioned: “I hear that there have been some changes around here.”

It was like more than 400 times.

...

The man has owned Twitter for less than 48 hours and racists are beside themselves. Honestly, it will probably continue to go even further downhill from here.
Quote from: https://observeblack.substack.com/p/elons-twitter-and-my-black-twitter
#BlackTwitter, which has been identified as “an internet community largely consisting of African-American users on the social network Twitter focused on issues of interest to the Black community in the United States,” has functioned not only as a haven for joy, jokes and trending memes on Twitter but also as a corner of the platform where anti-Black racism has been unapologetically called out and where Black organizers have mobilized in efforts to aggressively combat white supremacy in every iteration it presents itself.

Will Musk’s Twitter allow space for pointed language and content that fiercely challenges systems of white supremacy? Will it censor Black and other marginalized advocates from sharing information relevant to the struggle for liberation? Will it exist as a space where only Black culture and entertainment and merriment will be accepted but resistance and strategic activism will be met with dismissals from the site?

Musk says that there is “currently great danger that social media will splinter into far right-wing and far left-wing echo chambers that generate more hate and divide our society,” but who is he most likely to muzzle if the heat of the “town square” bonfire morphs into an inferno?

Conventional wisdom would suggest that the likes of the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers and neo-Nazis will be unrestricted in their ability to plan, plot and strategize in plain view in Musk’s Twitterverse, whereas freedom fighters of color might very well find their timelines interrupted.

I am not of the belief that the new “Chief Twit” in charge will be impartial about what brand of “open dialogue” his Twitter will allow. I am of reasonable concern as to what may be the consequences of his acquisition with regard to who will get the mic back.

The bigots are already back out to play on the bird app. And I can very well see myself leaving that nest sooner than later.
Quote from: https://www.dailydot.com/debug/elon-musk-bird-is-freed-racial-slurs/
Elon Musk’s first tweet since taking over Twitter has already been flooded with racial slurs.

...

It remains unclear whether any action will be taken against the offending tweets at this time.
https://twitter.com/David_Leavitt/status/1585829588361687040
https://twitter.com/ElieNYC/status/1586040502859833350
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Himu on October 28, 2022, 11:22:21 PM
:dead
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on October 28, 2022, 11:23:29 PM
https://twitter.com/David_Leavitt/status/1585829588361687040

(https://i.imgur.com/3BORYoW.gif)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 28, 2022, 11:30:21 PM
https://twitter.com/BDSixsmith/status/1585974496565301249
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on October 29, 2022, 12:11:34 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/bLTT12J.jpeg)

https://twitter.com/CalltoActivism/status/1585798609299464192

https://twitter.com/shimmybuffett/status/1585737168169099266
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Himu on October 29, 2022, 12:47:14 AM
https://youtu.be/gH0ZDRgAY80
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 29, 2022, 01:02:43 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/bLTT12J.jpeg)
Seems like the smartest play would be building the hype for a Trump return later on down the road rather than making your big move to bring about fascism after just a few weeks. Get The Resistance locked in thinking nothing is going to change and they've saved democracy, then BAM, Trump's back in time for 2024 and returning Twitter to the market!

Study Kevin Feige and how he built us to Thanos!
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on October 29, 2022, 01:54:44 AM
I'm so glad that even though an Australian journalist had an amazingly terrible take on Musk/Twatter involving Darth Vader, that wasn't the worst take on the situation posted on theboredotcum today.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on October 29, 2022, 02:07:24 AM
https://twitter.com/ncri_io/status/1586007698910646272
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on October 29, 2022, 04:38:31 AM
Engineers had to print their code of the last 30 - 60 days for a sit down with the boss  :lol

https://twitter.com/leahculver/status/1586145696163373056 (https://twitter.com/leahculver/status/1586145696163373056)

https://twitter.com/CaseyNewton/status/1586127052767318016 (https://twitter.com/CaseyNewton/status/1586127052767318016)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on October 29, 2022, 06:24:28 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/hfwccj8.png)

elon needs to buy facebook next and fix the porn bots

edit: just realised the "bots" might actually just be filler  :duh
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Polident Hive on October 29, 2022, 02:46:16 PM
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/elon-musk-twitter-celebrities-quit-1235250888/

Quote
Director and activist Rob Reiner — who previously expressed concern about Musk taking over the platform — tweeted: “For those who are fighting to preserve our Constitutional Democracy, now is not the time to leave Twitter. Now is the time to VOTE BLUE!”

Mia Farrow, for example, said she would flee the platform if it became more toxic under Musk, then deleted the tweet and instead wrote to Musk: “You gave us Tesla ♥️ and Space X♥️👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽. Thank you!  Hope you can keep Twitter worthy of your previous achievements and of lawful people everywhere.”

The Good Place and She-Hulk actress Jameela Jamil quit Twitter on April 25, according to People, and declared, “I fear this free speech bid is going to help this hell platform reach its final form of totally lawless hate, bigotry, and misogyny. Best of luck.” She later deleted the tweet and returned to the platform. 

 :society
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 29, 2022, 02:55:31 PM
the shit they're "fleeing" from was already all over twitter anyway :teehee

this has all been a moral panic of complete morons
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on October 29, 2022, 03:17:17 PM
"don't flee twitter, vote blue"

what does voting blue have to do with this? would the democrats have prevented him from buying it?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on October 29, 2022, 03:18:43 PM
Quote
Billions showrunner Brian Koppelman similarly tweeted, “Y’all’s, for real, come find me over on instagram and the tok. Gonna really try to take a breather from here for a minute or a month come deal close time.”

fleeing elon musk into the wholesome arms of china
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 29, 2022, 03:28:26 PM
well they didn't even try did they :trumps

i think they reason all the resistence libs are freaking out is because trump getting banned was their big W and him coming back would undo that (the old twitter admin would have probably let him back on again around when the republican primaries started anyway).
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 29, 2022, 04:23:47 PM
"don't flee twitter, vote blue"

what does voting blue have to do with this? would the democrats have prevented him from buying it?
You mean the Democrats currently in power? :hmm
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on October 29, 2022, 04:36:54 PM
https://twitter.com/PeaceIsEarned/status/1585993416499900416

oh boy  :hyper

a public utility...where anyone can use it and they don't have financial interests to protect, so...nobody can get banned...

https://twitter.com/PeaceIsEarned/status/1586337622929985538

haha elon is such a loser, twitter is going to close its doors within a week
:point :girlaff :crowdlaff

Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Mostima on October 29, 2022, 08:46:49 PM
99.9% of twitter users don't care about musk owning twitter, and the 0.1% that do care, refuse to leave twitter because they're too addicted need to stand up to fascism! But yeah, twitter is definitely going to die overnight and everybody's gonna flock over to jack dorsey's new site.  :brain
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 29, 2022, 08:59:28 PM
https://twitter.com/KingJames/status/1586431561041293312
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Himu on October 29, 2022, 09:51:11 PM
:lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 29, 2022, 10:48:16 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgPWaMrUAAEPDwq?format=jpg&name=small)

Quote
Stephanie Ruhle Hubbard[1] (born December 24, 1975) is the host of The 11th Hour and a Senior Business Analyst for NBC News.[2] Previously, Ruhle was managing editor and news anchor for Bloomberg Television and editor-at-large for Bloomberg News.

 :doge :doge :doge :doge
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on October 29, 2022, 11:38:08 PM
You know this means they get to collect severance right

CEO is getting a briefcase with $60million to never have to listen to Musk.

Thats called winning.

This isnt like the time you got fired from the 7-11 eating a hotdog without paying

https://twitter.com/MikeIsaac/status/1586539695491624960
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 29, 2022, 11:40:02 PM
Yeah, rich execs will never fight you trying to take their millions. :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on October 30, 2022, 12:02:56 AM
This whole purchase from Musk has been more a political/performative statement than a common sense business decision, so he would probably welcome the legal shenanigans that a dispute over this will bring.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 30, 2022, 12:13:15 AM
It is really hard to think it was anything other than a shitpost, the guy has spent how many actual billions on shitposts before, but he accidentally somehow did wind up agreeing to buy it. I think that original chunk he bought was "legit" in that he wanted a board seat but at some point somebody (Dorsey?) talked him into buying the whole thing.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 30, 2022, 12:29:03 AM
I don't fuck with Elon on any level but...why wouldn't you expect him to fire front office people, find his own CEO, etc. This is pretty standard. And when the dust is settled I'd expect a crackdown on some of the ugly shit going on right now in terms of the hate speech. He says he wants advertisers and it won't be a free-for-all atmosphere so I'd expect some bans and deletions.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 30, 2022, 12:42:15 AM
I expect him to create another Blue Check like system but behind-the-scenes and shift those people into a more human appeal process for bans, maybe even automatically holding bans/suspensions until they're confirmed rather than banning and requiring an appeal. There is no way gobs of people would not pay for a more first-class Twitter status even if it's not visible.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 30, 2022, 01:12:51 AM
https://twitter.com/0interestrates/status/1586188883905028097

 :hesright
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on October 30, 2022, 09:57:45 AM
I don't fuck with Elon on any level but...why wouldn't you expect him to fire front office people, find his own CEO, etc. This is pretty standard. And when the dust is settled I'd expect a crackdown on some of the ugly shit going on right now in terms of the hate speech. He says he wants advertisers and it won't be a free-for-all atmosphere so I'd expect some bans and deletions.

I don't get it either, but usually the transitionary period is longer and more courtesies are given (trying to axe the golden parachutes is a little anomalous).
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on October 30, 2022, 10:43:50 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgUVYfYX0AA8AFG?format=png)

The Paul Pelosi story really is the litmus test for this new era of Twitter  :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on October 30, 2022, 11:00:16 AM
I expect him to create another Blue Check like system but behind-the-scenes and shift those people into a more human appeal process for bans, maybe even automatically holding bans/suspensions until they're confirmed rather than banning and requiring an appeal. There is no way gobs of people would not pay for a more first-class Twitter status even if it's not visible.

Two things I'd expect him to do to make money that the only people who will be mad about it are the twitterati who are already doing this but dont want the hoi palloi to;
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on October 30, 2022, 11:05:40 AM
I expect him to create another Blue Check like system but behind-the-scenes and shift those people into a more human appeal process for bans, maybe even automatically holding bans/suspensions until they're confirmed rather than banning and requiring an appeal. There is no way gobs of people would not pay for a more first-class Twitter status even if it's not visible.

Two things I'd expect him to do to make money that the only people who will be mad about it are the twitterati who are already doing this but dont want the hoi palloi to;
  • Just sell blue ticks for a monthly / annual fee; this is roundabout how the system already works tbh.
  • Sell 'boosters' (bot follows) directly, cutting out the middle man; again, people already do this and pretend they don't, but this would just go to twitter instead of botfarms.
Yup, I expect these sort of Discord type subscriptions and things.

He has also floated the idea of an ESRB like rating system for Tweets.
Basically you can decide if you want to see all Tweets or only the ones that don't offend you.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on October 30, 2022, 12:22:44 PM
here is the model:

  • you can make as many normal tweets or photo tweets as you like for free
  • video tweets or ones with images over 10 MB cost 5 twitcoins
  • every user gets one twitcoin per day for free and can earn more through gamified activities that demonstrate engagement like liking one tweet every day for a week/month etc.
  • also if you go sufficiently viral you earn a bunch of twitcoins
  • also you can tip people with them if you really liked their tweet and this shows up as a separate like metric, a "superlike"
  • you can buy twitcoins wholesale, 200 for $10
  • monthly $10 sub also gets you 200 twitcoins per month as well as other privileges like the blue check
  • you can also spend 600 twitcoins to get a t-shirt made out of any tweet you really like, or printed on coffee mugs or urinal cakes
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on October 30, 2022, 01:01:39 PM
Man, the dude is so high of his own farts. It truly feels like he only bought twitter to shitpost.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on October 30, 2022, 01:03:10 PM
Man, the dude is so high of his own farts. It truly feels like he only bought twitter to shitpost.

Good for him. It's a much better use of his money than taking a trip into space.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on October 30, 2022, 01:05:02 PM
Man, the dude is so high of his own farts. It truly feels like he only bought twitter to shitpost.

Good for him. It's a much better use of his money than taking a trip into space.

Nah. Misinformation about political violence is kind of shitty.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on October 30, 2022, 01:12:19 PM
Imagine if you got to post 1 tweet per day for free.

Only 1.

The rest you had to pay for.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Turn the journos into paypigs.  :mynicca
[close]
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Himu on October 30, 2022, 01:41:00 PM
The Paul Pelosi is gay theory :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on October 30, 2022, 02:29:56 PM
Media: "Right wing MAGA Trumper attacks Paul Pelosi with a hammer because he watched Tucker Carlson!"

The right: "Woah, this is terrible is there any evidence of this? There must be security footage of the attack?"

Media: "Do not question the FACTS! A right wing MAGA Trump attacked Paul Pelosi"

Police: "We have no clue about the motive, the mugshot in the media is not the guy"

Democrats: "REPUBLICAN VIOLENCE IS OUT OF CONTROL. ACTUAL 9/11 MOMENT!"

Police: "The other picture in the media is also not the guy"

The right: "Hold up that's a pride flag and BLM sign. What makes a Castro Nudist a right wing MAGA?"

Media: "Don't jump to conclusions!"

Police: "A third guy opened the door. They were both half naked fighting over a hammer. Paul called the police from the bathroom"

The right: "They were both half naked? Who was the third guy? Why did he tell the police it was a friend? Why did the guy allow him to go to the bathroom, why were they struggling over the hammer with a bystander present?"
 
Democrats: "Stop spreading misinformation!!! THREAT TO DEMOCRACY. ELON IS A RUSSIAN ASSET"

Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on October 30, 2022, 02:40:45 PM
I’m going to totally believe you Nintex, you never say stupid shit or signal boost alt right diarrhea.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Himu on October 30, 2022, 02:43:54 PM
Yeah nintex. Post your sources that police say that's not the guy and all that. All I know is that the guy was targeting Nancy as per police official statements.

The story seems to be:

Crazy guy attacked husband of the Speaker of the House while in search of the Congresswoman.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/30/politics/pelosi-attack-suspect-david-depape-bag-zip-ties/index.html

Where did you get all of this stuff, particularly the police related statements regarding the media and the so-called mugshot?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on October 30, 2022, 03:12:06 PM
it is true that everyone was all over the internet doing armchair detective work looking for the guy with that name, and the wrong picture was signal boosted twice, but that's just the normal social media scramble, and I don't think it had much to do with the story changing (other than people looking into the background of whoever was wrongly pictured)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Himu on October 30, 2022, 03:15:10 PM
Ah, so internet scuttlebutt. Who cares. Luls.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 30, 2022, 04:25:40 PM
A story in two tweets

https://twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1586698111552045057

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1586793907815419907

Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 30, 2022, 07:21:20 PM
so this shit has grown tedious two days in, tank the platform now pls.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on October 30, 2022, 09:04:06 PM
https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1586886166191558656

Amazingly good idea if real :lol

Will all the blue check people whinging about Elon pay him from their pockets to keep their shiny badge?  Will they be called hypocrites?  Stay tuned.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Himu on October 30, 2022, 09:10:02 PM
Lmfao if true
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on October 30, 2022, 09:10:24 PM
"Employees working on the project were told on Sunday that they need to meet a deadline of November 7th to launch the feature or they will be fired."
https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/30/23431931/twitter-paid-verification-elon-musk-blue-monthly-subscription

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi5Ti1sDnFw
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on October 30, 2022, 09:17:15 PM
Burn it all down Elon, including yourself.  :lol

What a stupid asshole. But hey, this is solution to blue marks… having no blue marks.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on October 30, 2022, 09:27:00 PM
It's not stupid, it's a great idea.  Twitter is not an essential service.  Nobody is putting a gun to anyone's head to use twitter.  That badge is a status and credibility marker and now you have to pay for it or go screw.  It's a genius move putting people on the spot to choose between making Twitter and Elon money or losing that free status/cred signal that gets you more popularity/business/taken more seriously, etc.     Pick one.  Also makes convictionless hypocrites more apparent.  Complaining about Elon's business ethics, the way he gets rich, how much of a dick he is, while you directly contribute to his business from your own pocket?  It's brilliant. 

Only thing that would suck is if anyone could buy the badge, but I don't think that's what this is. I think the badge requirements stay the same, you just have to pay for it now.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Himu on October 30, 2022, 09:30:11 PM
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1586887486164373505

Source? Stay tuned!
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on October 30, 2022, 09:36:11 PM
It's not stupid, it's a great idea.  Twitter is not an essential service.  Nobody is putting a gun to anyone's head to use twitter.  That badge is a status and credibility marker and now you have to pay for it or go screw.  It's a genius move putting people on the spot to choose between making Twitter and Elon money or losing that free status/cred signal that gets you more popularity/business/taken more seriously, etc.     Pick one.  Also makes convictionless hypocrites more apparent.  Complaining about Elon's business ethics, the way he gets rich, how much of a dick he is, while you directly contribute to his business from your own pocket?  It's brilliant. 

Only thing that would suck is if anyone could buy the badge, but I don't think that's what this is. I think the badge requirements stay the same, you just have to pay for it now.

You just admitted that this could be in fact a credibility killer. YouTube is also not an essential service and nobody is buying YouTube Premium.

Most people will not pay and the people that will pay will be journos as a business expense and corpos.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on October 30, 2022, 09:37:40 PM
Yeah like I said, if anyone can just buy the badge, that's bad and defeats the purpose.  I have a feeling it's just simply adding a fee on top of the current badge standard, though.

If you're verified and you don't want to pay the $20, then boohoo?  A social media website shouldn't be the lynchpin standard of showing credibility anyway.  Your work should speak for that.  This is a private service that doesn't owe you that free signaling.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Transhuman on October 30, 2022, 09:38:46 PM
It's not stupid, it's a great idea.  Twitter is not an essential service.  Nobody is putting a gun to anyone's head to use twitter.  That badge is a status and credibility marker and now you have to pay for it or go screw.  It's a genius move putting people on the spot to choose between making Twitter and Elon money or losing that free status/cred signal that gets you more popularity/business/taken more seriously, etc.     Pick one.  Also makes convictionless hypocrites more apparent.  Complaining about Elon's business ethics, the way he gets rich, how much of a dick he is, while you directly contribute to his business from your own pocket?  It's brilliant. 

Only thing that would suck is if anyone could buy the badge, but I don't think that's what this is. I think the badge requirements stay the same, you just have to pay for it now.

No, now being verified means much less because there is a conflict of interest. You really think whoever is in charge of verification isn't going to lower the barrier of entry? It'd be like resetera saying you need at least 1000 posts and to pass a background check before you can subscribe to Era clear.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on October 30, 2022, 09:40:10 PM
Yeah like I said, if anyone can just buy the badge, that's bad and defeats the purpose.  I have a feeling it's just simply adding a fee on top of the current badge standard, though.

Why are you giving the fucker the benefit of doubt?

Deep down he is just a shitposter and doesn’t care about free speech. He justa misses the validation he used to have as “IRL Tony Stark”.

I think is more likely that he just wants to squeeze money from corporations and Journalists, the people that will actually pay for it.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on October 30, 2022, 09:43:17 PM
If the standard changes and they start issuing out badges to anyone who will pay, then it becomes a valueless symbol which would be bad for Twitter's business.  They'd be smart to keep the standard the same.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on October 30, 2022, 09:46:01 PM
Yeah like I said, if anyone can just buy the badge, that's bad and defeats the purpose.  I have a feeling it's just simply adding a fee on top of the current badge standard, though.

Why are you giving the fucker the benefit of doubt?

Deep down he is just a shitposter and doesn’t care about free speech. He justa misses the validation he used to have as “IRL Tony Stark”.

I think is more likely that he just wants to squeeze money from corporations and Journalists, the people that will actually pay for it.

I'm assuming he's not a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow and wants the badge to retain value if he wants to make money off of it.  Either way, I don't care.  It's an obnoxious, clout-obsessed website full of people pleading for relevence and validation, and muddies the water of expertise by giving credibility to personalities instead of work.  Elon is the personified version.  Hope the shit explodes with the hypocrites latched onto it.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on October 30, 2022, 09:55:51 PM
I think Elon Musk is a shortsighted asshole in the spectrum with to much money and really misses when he was seen as a visionary. He was forced to buy a company that didn’t want anymore so now he is throwing stuff to the wall to see if it works.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on October 30, 2022, 10:00:38 PM
It gets straight to the crux of the essential question of what Twitter is.  It is not the town square.  It is not an essential service.  The government does not ensure you have a right to speak on it.  It's a private company with a service that you now have to pay for.   You now have to pay for that verified marker, and if you don't, you lose all the goodies that come with it.  You either enrich Elon or leave.  Or stay on and cry about it.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on October 30, 2022, 10:15:19 PM
People usually use social media because it is free. Is a private owned town square, but still a town square most people used for free. Monetizing blue marks is not a genius idea just because I bet you they already though about the idea way before Musk went full autistic, but was probably too stupid of an idea to do.

I’m not going to miss Twitter, but there was a time when it was not as hellish as it is now. 
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 30, 2022, 10:17:27 PM
Why are you giving the fucker the benefit of doubt?
Because that's what good people do.

Most people will not pay and the people that will pay will be journos as a business expense and corpos.
People like Brianna Wu, MovieBob, etc. losing their Blue Checks to people who are at least actually employed in the field they claim in some capacity is probably a good thing for increasing the status of the Blue Check itself.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on October 30, 2022, 10:17:51 PM
People usually use social media because it is free. Is a private owned town square, but still a town square most people used for free. Monetizing blue marks is not a genius idea just because I bet you they already though about the idea way before Musk went full autistic, but was probably too stupid of an idea to do.

It's very smart from a business perspective because people literally compete on that site for relevance.  Someone on there who wants to be taken seriously will consider how small his or her voice is without that badge, and will be compelled to pay the $20 for it.  This is not an ethical loss at all -- Twitter hands those badges out to anyone - it does not filter good 'experts' from 'bad' ones.  It gives any crackpot "expert" a badge.  It's great business: Now both the 'real' and 'crackpot' experts will be fighting for relevance on a social media site - a place where such a battle shouldn't take place, anyway.  This isn't a peer-reviewed journal, it's a fucking social media site.  Fuck it.

And no, it isn't a town-square.  It's a private corporation's website.  A private corporation owning a public space doesn't make any sense.  The government can't compel your rights into their terms of service, so I don't care if it's 'public' in spirit because it looks like a place everyone gathers, it doesn't hold.  Musk is LARPing about the town-square freedom of speech shit to get advertisers on his side and to retain social media addicts by virtue.  You don't give people special badges in a town square.   You can't ban people for saying mean or uncomfortable things in a town square.   That website was never a town square. 
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Himu on October 30, 2022, 10:22:07 PM
The people super mad at Elon are hilarious. I'm sorry but it's funny.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 30, 2022, 10:25:04 PM
The Blue Check was fine when Twitter invented it, it meant simply that they confirmed this is the actual person (i.e. this is actually Hillary Clinton (or her staff) or Elon Musk) and that's how all the idiots got it. Then they changed it to an elite club with special features on the website like the ability to ignore non-Blue Checks and get priority in moderation. The latter absolutely should be monetized.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on October 30, 2022, 10:28:31 PM
There are people on Twitter that may have marginal careers or roles that can't be verified because they're too niche or something.  I know a few game developers that have made popular games in the past that have tried but can't get verified.  There are people that are interested in confirming their identity, but they're not popular enough, I guess.   It's definitely a popularity contest or 'elite club' as you say, not some egalitarian system.  And nobody can compel it to be otherwise.  Monetize the shit out of it, who cares.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on October 30, 2022, 10:30:12 PM
Why are you giving the fucker the benefit of doubt?
Because that's what good people do.

Because Elon Musk is good people and worthy of the benefit of the doubt. Just like Brianna Wu, MovieBob, etc.  ;)

Come on, Benji.

Quote
Most people will not pay and the people that will pay will be journos as a business expense and corpos.
People like Brianna Wu, MovieBob, etc. losing their Blue Checks to people who are at least actually employed in the field they claim in some capacity is probably a good thing for increasing the status of the Blue Check itself.

Don’t disagree with that, but there is also people that are not exactly scum that are going to lose it and corporations and some insane journos and media personalities will probably afford it. Probably people with bigger cloud than MovieBob.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on October 30, 2022, 10:37:22 PM
Quote
Don’t disagree with that, but there is also people that are not exactly scum that are going to lose it and corporations and some insane journos and media personalities will probably afford it. Probably people with bigger cloud than MovieBob.

Then this website will live or die by whether or not that loss is important.  We need to stop looking at Twitter as if it's some essential public institution that needs to be used, referred to, remarked upon, and defended.  It doesn't deserve it.  The people running it don't deserve it.  It doesn't function with any acknowledgement of peoples' rights.  And yet everyone is desperate to have a voice on it and be dependent upon it.  This new idea is great because it gets right to the source of what Twitter is and what is its value proposition:  How important is this website to people?  Is it important enough that a subscription fee that filters expertise will reduce the importance of this site in peoples' lives?  It's an interesting question.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on October 30, 2022, 10:43:49 PM
I agree that as whole, the website doesn’t deserve defending. But like you said yourself, Elon Musk current behavior seems to be a byproduct of Twitter, so I don’t think is also worth defending him or pretend he cares beyond getting high at social medial.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on October 30, 2022, 10:59:52 PM
This whole thing is basically akin to the robber barons buying newspaper publishers back in the day to shape public opinion in their favor.
Musk is a person who has never invented anything and only cares about stroking his own ego. Nothing more, nothing less.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on October 30, 2022, 11:12:41 PM
It's a self-correcting problem.  Those newspapers either went out of business because they weren't trustworthy or retained a readership of people that were ignorant and naïve to the propaganda, and competing journalism had to win people over with the protections of a free press.  Either way, if people are looking for an injunction to get blue checks distributed in a fair way, they won't get it.  It was never fair to begin with because it never had to be.  It's time for people to take responsibility for their actions and make a decision about what they think their participation and contributions to public discourse means on a platform they think is unfair and is run by someone they hate.  It's very easy to go on Twitter every day, tweet a million times a day how shitty everything is,  talk shit about Elon, change your name to Jennifer "Democracy Enjoyer" Rubin but take no accountability for your actions and have no conviction to change them.  Now you're tasked with paying the man directly or doing something and it sucks because complaining was easy and even fun.   Now it's less fun.  If people actually care and act then Twitter will destroy itself by this policy, and a better site with a better system will take its place. 
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 30, 2022, 11:24:41 PM
Why are you giving the fucker the benefit of doubt?
Because that's what good people do.

Because Elon Musk is good people and worthy of the benefit of the doubt. Just like Brianna Wu, MovieBob, etc.  ;)

Come on, Benji.
That's not at all what I said, I said good people give others the benefit of the doubt. I would never claim that only good people deserve the benefit of the doubt. I consider that immoral.

I actually have no idea what you're even attempting to say we're giving Musk the benefit of the doubt on. He's monetizing an exclusive aspect of his platform, isn't that what we said he's doing? We just didn't think that's a bad thing, Musk's motives are irrelevant to that determination.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on October 30, 2022, 11:24:52 PM
It gets straight to the crux of the essential question of what Twitter is.  It is not the town square.  It is not an essential service.  The government does not ensure you have a right to speak on it.  It's a private company with a service that you now have to pay for.   You now have to pay for that verified marker, and if you don't, you lose all the goodies that come with it.  You either enrich Elon or leave.  Or stay on and cry about it.
Twatter is and always was a service for the most self-absorbed and narcissistic idiots to express their private thought bubble onto the rest of the self-absorbed and narcissistic userbase. It became a public nuisance when twats could embed their tweets all over the internet, thus making tweets newsworthy in themselves and allowing idiots to report on the opinions of other idiots.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 30, 2022, 11:30:35 PM
This whole thing is basically akin to the robber barons buying newspaper publishers back in the day to shape public opinion in their favor.
Trying to back out completely and claiming the main goal is reducing top-down censorship is a weird way to try to "shape public opinion" to... boost Tesla and SpaceX?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on October 30, 2022, 11:40:53 PM
I can imagine some shitty externalities occurring from the centralized power of a billionaire industrialist.  Let's say someone gets really popular as an activist and starts winning people over on the question of Taiwan or Ukrainian independence.  Then China says, "Look, you don't have to delete this person's account...you don't even have to delete their tweet, but make it have less engagement.  Just deprioritize it a bit.  Make the account a bit more invisible, or we won't import your cars."  I'm not sure, but I can see someone like him being moved by that.  Of course, that sort of thing would have to go through a development team that would keep it under wraps.  But in the case of a team loyal to him, where that sort of behavior becomes invisible to people, there could be issues.  It's not as if this hasn't happened before - When Blizzard hosts E-sports events, they defer to China's preferred name for Taiwanese players - saying they're from the Republic of China on all the labeling.  Anyway, all speculation, though.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on October 30, 2022, 11:57:29 PM
Why are you giving the fucker the benefit of doubt?
Because that's what good people do.

Because Elon Musk is good people and worthy of the benefit of the doubt. Just like Brianna Wu, MovieBob, etc.  ;)

Come on, Benji.
That's not at all what I said, I said good people give others the benefit of the doubt. I would never claim that only good people deserve the benefit of the doubt. I consider that immoral.

I actually have no idea what you're even attempting to say we're giving Musk the benefit of the doubt on. He's monetizing an exclusive aspect of his platform, isn't that what we said he's doing? We just didn't think that's a bad thing, Musk's motives are irrelevant to that determination.

Just saying that his monetizing plan doesn’t go beyond: “I NEED MONEY FAST YOU USELESS FUCKS DIDNT THOUGH ABOUT THIS WAIT YOU DID?”.

And motives are relevant if the dude is selling himself as helping humanity.  :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 31, 2022, 12:01:22 AM
The Royal Family of Saudi Arabia was the largest shareholder of all, and by far until Musk bought in, and nobody ever cared. How many hedge funds and others were in? Yeah, of course, now we're subject to Musk's personal proclivities but if his free speech stuff is anywhere near honest then it seems like he'll default to the traditional liberal method of counterspeech rather than spending all his time doing the one thing he claims inspired him to throw billions away.

Sure, China can pull strings on Musk personally. But China is well versed on pulling strings on everyone involved, they held Disney's other investments hostage to alter movies globally, so being public didn't necessarily protect Twitter before. Now there's just one obvious target: Musk. And he may be rich enough and have interests outside of continual profit that could protect him from these type of things. How often do you see Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates getting pushed around by targeting their wealth?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on October 31, 2022, 12:24:55 AM
How often you read about Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos calling a scuba diver a pedophile? Or implying that the reason why the husband of a congresswoman was attacked at his house is because he has a gay lover?

Musk makes himself easily unsympathetic even when people have tried to make charitable interpretations of his actions.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Transhuman on October 31, 2022, 12:35:49 AM
Even I hate him now, and that's coming from the guy who made this thread

http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=48121.msg2974029#msg2974029

:existential
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 31, 2022, 01:06:05 AM
How often you read about Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos calling a scuba diver a pedophile? Or implying that the reason why the husband of a congresswoman was attacked at his house is because he has a gay lover?

Musk makes himself easily unsympathetic even when people have tried to make charitable interpretations of his actions.
I do not expect China to leverage Musk calling someone a pedophile in order to censor anti-China content on Twitter, no.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on October 31, 2022, 09:17:01 AM
Making people pay for the checkmark seems like a dumb idea. Vain checkmark club idiots aside, the checkmark serves everyone by verifying that this is an official account and not one of the million randos/bots who claimed a similar sounding Twitter handle. I'd wager seeing tweets from someone like the real Elijah Wood is a bigger gain for the user base than Elijah Wood himself. So if he decides he can't be fucked to pay that fee Twitter loses part of its appeal
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 31, 2022, 09:21:25 AM
Any little thing the helps accelerate twitter's demise is fine by me :phil
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on October 31, 2022, 10:19:12 AM
apparently we're going to hear about every little internal thing that happens at twitter from now on, since there's no way they would publicly announce that they're firing people if they don't implement a code change

"this just in: musk allegedly makes employees' lives a living hell by refusing to use his private restroom and unleashing big stinkers on engineers instead"
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on October 31, 2022, 10:59:55 AM
nobody is buying YouTube Premium.

It has more than 25 million US users.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on October 31, 2022, 11:02:53 AM
Fwiw this is basically IMDb's play, you have to pay $20/month to be able to edit your own credits and you basically have to pay it forever or someone can mark your page up with fake/harmful shit when your sub lapses.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on October 31, 2022, 11:12:04 AM
nobody is buying YouTube Premium.

It has more than 25 million US users.

 :point
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 31, 2022, 11:25:57 AM
btw i think this will be reasonably successful, you'll have the rubes who want the tick, celebs (or their management) will pay cuz $20 a month isn't shit to them and having an official account for Taylor Swift is worth it, and media outlets will more than likely pay/reimburse their staff for the fee :elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: jorma on October 31, 2022, 11:56:51 AM
Making people pay for the checkmark seems like a dumb idea. Vain checkmark club idiots aside, the checkmark serves everyone by verifying that this is an official account and not one of the million randos/bots who claimed a similar sounding Twitter handle. I'd wager seeing tweets from someone like the real Elijah Wood is a bigger gain for the user base than Elijah Wood himself. So if he decides he can't be fucked to pay that fee Twitter loses part of its appeal

you'd think elijah pays the guy who handles his twitter account a lot more than that already so...

besides, they can always give the superstars and the supertweeters free checkmarks and call it advertising  :trumps
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on October 31, 2022, 12:11:40 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/jENfsj8.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/OTSa1YT.png)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Himu on October 31, 2022, 12:21:01 PM
Are they really a Nazi? What'd they say?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on October 31, 2022, 12:23:49 PM
that one sentence
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HardcoreRetro on October 31, 2022, 12:25:44 PM
Time for Musk to buy Reddit.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on October 31, 2022, 12:34:08 PM
Time for Musk to buy Reddit.

He literally could do this with the change in his couch.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Himu on October 31, 2022, 12:36:03 PM
that one sentence

:lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: paprikastaude on October 31, 2022, 12:48:57 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/jENfsj8.png)


 :wag
dear nin4nin, cancel culture doesn't exist
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on October 31, 2022, 01:35:39 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/jENfsj8.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/OTSa1YT.png)

What sub it is, my dear?

Because there is genuinely awful subs with shitty opinions that don’t even need to be Nazis.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: jorma on October 31, 2022, 01:42:15 PM
Time for Musk to buy Reddit.

He literally could do this with the change in his couch.

doesn't he live in a shoebox at the space centre or something? doubt he has room for a couch...
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on October 31, 2022, 01:52:21 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/jENfsj8.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/OTSa1YT.png)

What sub it is, my dear?

Because there is genuinely awful subs with shitty opinions that don’t even need to be Nazis.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Twitter/

they deleted the thread about being a nazi edgelord circlejerk  :doge
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on October 31, 2022, 02:00:54 PM
I found this eye-opening, not for the content of the article but the sheer number of people commenting on it??

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/musk-owned-twitter-under-week-175842621.html

(https://i.imgur.com/vSyrsoE.png)

:whoo

this article is only a day old, 4 people actively typing as I screenshotted

is yahoo discord for old people?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on October 31, 2022, 02:14:21 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1587129795732770824 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1587129795732770824)

:elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on October 31, 2022, 02:44:55 PM
Doesn't Alibaba own a majority stake in yahoo?

Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on October 31, 2022, 03:18:41 PM
Musk’s inner circle worked through the weekend to cement Twitter layoff plans
The first round of layoffs will target 25 percent of the workforce
(WaPo)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on October 31, 2022, 03:24:11 PM
Musk’s inner circle worked through the weekend to cement Twitter layoff plans
The first round of layoffs will target 25 percent of the workforce
(WaPo)

Hes been buying the company since April and didnt do any of the work until halloween fucking weekend?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Himu on October 31, 2022, 03:55:07 PM
MUSK PLANS TWITTER HALLOWEEN MASSACRE
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on October 31, 2022, 04:05:09 PM
Ask $20 for blue checks :money

Fire 25% of the workforce :money

Make controversial comments so you get free advertising on MSNBC and CNN for your platform :money
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 31, 2022, 04:28:34 PM
Not to be a musk defender but the sauce is a Jeff Bezos publication, and it's pretty clear that he's mad jelly of musk.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 31, 2022, 04:32:28 PM
Another thing to consider is that twitter is widely acknowledged as being a terrible business. Doesn't mean this isn't mostly a giant and terribly expensive ego trip but there is method to the madness, if you will.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on October 31, 2022, 04:34:26 PM
Leaving that money in the bank with this inflation is worthless.

Elon will come out the winner.

Imagine if the blue checks get what they want and these things become an utility and Twitter is bought by the government.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 31, 2022, 08:04:15 PM
https://twitter.com/Halalcoholism/status/1586919039515099136
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 31, 2022, 08:06:47 PM
It's all over for 3|*n.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgaJXSQVQAEwlj0?format=jpg&name=small)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgalDOHVEAA4UWR?format=jpg&name=small)

 :elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on October 31, 2022, 08:37:44 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/fUjMjTy.png)

as if blue checks weren't already lmao  :crowdlaff
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 31, 2022, 09:04:27 PM
Guy who posts constantly on Twitter and dunks on Blue Checks: wow, this is going to turn the Blue Checks into dunk targets.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on October 31, 2022, 10:31:25 PM
If Elon were smart hed start a red check so we could have a red vs blue situation
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on October 31, 2022, 10:42:46 PM
If Elon were smart hed start a red check so we could have a red vs blue situation

the red check also costs $20/month but must be purchased using cryptocurrency
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on October 31, 2022, 11:03:54 PM
If Elon were smart hed start a red check so we could have a red vs blue situation

the red check also costs $20/month but must be purchased using cryptocurrency

I am 80% confident that one of us could tweet this at him and make him do it
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 31, 2022, 11:09:15 PM
If Elon were smart hed start a red check so we could have a red vs blue situation

the red check also costs $20/month but must be purchased using cryptocurrency
https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1585964490335522816
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on October 31, 2022, 11:12:29 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/AXh0lTY.png)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 01, 2022, 12:22:09 AM
https://twitter.com/HadMyCoffee/status/1587121175964131329

Also, the Harper's Letter invented racism on the internet:
https://twitter.com/returnstosender/status/1586754769569579009
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 01, 2022, 08:25:56 AM
https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1587138866997100544

 :uguu
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on November 01, 2022, 08:30:21 AM
Oh no, poor twitter, whatever will they do without all the celebrities, journalists and blue check mark wankers?

 :obama  Actually, that sounds great
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 01, 2022, 09:25:21 AM
If I leave he's fucked i have over 200 followers
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on November 01, 2022, 10:48:23 AM
https://twitter.com/StephenKing/status/1587042605627490304


this billionaire skinflint bitch is still tweeting
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on November 01, 2022, 10:55:24 AM
https://twitter.com/StephenKing/status/1587042605627490304


this billionaire skinflint bitch is still tweeting

You are saying this like Elon isn’t desperate for his 20 8 dollars :ufup

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1587312517679878144

YOU GUYS TOLD HE WAS A GENIUS  :point



Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on November 01, 2022, 11:41:30 AM
lol Stephen King is still a skinflint whether or not Elon's business decisions are good or bad.  I still think paying for a bluecheck is a good move - give these animals a bill for their addiction.  But anyone with King's enormous amount of money complaining about $20 a month in public deserves to be derided.  Elon once tweeted about how bad ads were on Youtube and everyone rightfully made fun of him, a guy worth over 230 billion at the time, for not ponying up for Youtube Premium.   King can take his wealth and make 20 million a year in a no-risk cd, to say nothing about the wealth he already has, and he's complaining about 200 bucks a year for attention online.  fuck this, cheap, miserly dork - he thinks twitter should pay him so people can see his inane, stream of consciousness whining in tweets :lol .  Leave the platform if you're so banged up about it, what's taking these people so long?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 01, 2022, 12:31:38 PM
I think the verification is valuable when it comes to prominent people and organizations...give Washington Post a check so people aren't fooled by Wash1ngton P0st

If a lot of checks disappear that could actually contribute to misinformation online

the ideal situation would be identifying legit businesses, organizations, politicians and government officials and letting them keep their checks, while charging for everyone who's merely popular or conceited
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on November 01, 2022, 12:34:07 PM
  :beli
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on November 01, 2022, 12:37:01 PM
Is the Washington Post a legitimate organization anymore?  Taylor Lorenz writes for it.   We can skip that one.  Carl Milton Bernstein probably rolling in his grave reading some of that journalism.

Democracy dies in darkness, shitlord  :ufup
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on November 01, 2022, 12:38:41 PM
I deleted that post!  What you're doing is misinformation.  The truth dies in darkness you fucking bitch.  That's where I left that post.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: headwalk on November 01, 2022, 12:51:56 PM
i love that even if it's $1, it's just enough of a bending the knee to make the standard blue check jockey squirm at thought of endorsing musk's spergmacht reich. all for a vanity status symbol that should have no value, but means everything to them.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Beezy on November 01, 2022, 01:53:21 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1587499283573530625
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on November 01, 2022, 02:03:40 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1587499283573530625

(https://media.tenor.com/YxGsoypAdpAAAAAd/anger-management-jack-nicholson.gif)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 01, 2022, 02:04:28 PM
I deleted that post!  What you're doing is misinformation.  The truth dies in darkness you fucking bitch.  That's where I left that post.

I just pulled a name out of thin air

a check for @CNN so people aren't fooled by @CNNOfficial or @CNN0fficial or @CNNdesk or whatever
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on November 01, 2022, 02:24:41 PM
I deleted that post!  What you're doing is misinformation.  The truth dies in darkness you fucking bitch.  That's where I left that post.

I just pulled a name out of thin air

a check for @CNN so people aren't fooled by @CNNOfficial or @CNN0fficial or @CNNdesk or whatever

Yeah, I hear you.  That makes sense.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on November 01, 2022, 02:29:37 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1587499283573530625

People will predictably complain that some checkmarks are billionaires like Joanne and others are starving artists, no matter the country, so this makes no sense.  Because Twitter is a beloved essential public institution, Elon needs to take up the mantle of being the world's corporate egalitarian and do it by average income by ethnicity, according to aggregate census data in sample countries.  *crowd goes wild*    "Err, hold on American Jews and Indians you will have to pay quite a bit more than others.   How much more?  That's up to our new social media treasury rep, Mr. Kanye West.   Kanye, you have the floor!"
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on November 01, 2022, 02:35:25 PM
I also think the checkmark charging system will just cause more bot chaos.

If Stephen King etc don't pay up, there'll be thousands of BTC, porn, etc bots mimicking his profile. Idiots will click all the links, and twitters janny team is going to have to 100x in size to handle it because some teen clicked a "Stephen King" link and ended up on pornhub.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on November 01, 2022, 02:36:55 PM
lol it used to be free.  :yeshrug

Bluemarks are a problem… but this is gonna backfire.

Your hate blind you.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 01, 2022, 02:39:46 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1587499283573530625

Crazy how popular Twitter is in Argentina
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on November 01, 2022, 02:45:22 PM
lol it used to be free.  :yeshrug

Bluemarks are a problem… but this is gonna backfire.

Your hate blind you.

BoredFrom, why are you so intent on avoiding the fact that it will inject a much-needed impetus for conscious decision making of its users into this website.  More thoughtful intentionality on a website that essentially runs on addiction-validation is a good thing.  It's a good thing that people will have to stop and think about if they want to directly support the owner and platform they disagree with.   The exposure of having to put your money on the table is a good contingency for thoughtful decisions.   This website is so obnoxious because it's completely thoughtless - people farm likes and retweets using the most provactive and smarmy 250 or whatever character wordbites.  Everyone tries to be a fucking comedian.  People have their reputations destroyed by thoughtless mobs engaging in collective smothering that costs each of them nothing - and bluechecks get to lead those mobs.  It will turn the incessant Elon shittalkers into obvious hypocrites the moment they have to decide if a shiny badge on a website is worth more than their pretend-convictions that they constantly tweet about. 

There is NO downside to any of this.  The conclusion is self-evident: If this destroys the website, it needed to be destroyed because it would mean it was worthless shit to begin with.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 01, 2022, 02:49:33 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1587499283573530625

People will predictably complain that some checkmarks are billionaires like Joanne and others are starving artists, no matter the country, so this makes no sense.  Because Twitter is a beloved essential public institution, Elon needs to take up the mantle of being the world's corporate egalitarian and do it by average income by ethnicity, according to aggregate census data in sample countries.  *crowd goes wild*    "Err, hold on American Jews and Indians you will have to pay quite a bit more than others.   How much more?  That's up to our new social media treasury rep, Mr. Kanye West.   Kanye, you have the floor!"

era types should cheer "price adjusted by country proportionate to purchasing power parity"

(https://i.imgur.com/m9lH5F9.png)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 01, 2022, 02:51:25 PM
There is NO downside to any of this.  The conclusion is self-evident: If this destroys the website, it needed to be destroyed because it would mean it was worthless shit to begin with.

well, it has the same downside as era clear or neogaf gold: is there an internal "second/third/fourth chance" for rulebreakers who are paying customers
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on November 01, 2022, 02:53:43 PM
There is NO downside to any of this.  The conclusion is self-evident: If this destroys the website, it needed to be destroyed because it would mean it was worthless shit to begin with.

well, it has the same downside as era clear or neogaf gold: is there an internal "second/third/fourth chance" for rulebreakers who are paying customers

They already give bluechecks priority in that, priority in getting customer support when they're actioned, and priority in visibility on replies.  The question is, is it fair that people get priority now that it costs money, as opposed to getting priority solely because your account is worth more than everyone else's because you're verified on a free account?   Seems just as unfair to me.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 01, 2022, 02:54:44 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/E5Y0EQn.png)

lol lool loool
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 01, 2022, 03:01:58 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1587505731611262976

Interesting
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on November 01, 2022, 03:07:36 PM
lol it used to be free.  :yeshrug

Bluemarks are a problem… but this is gonna backfire.

Your hate blind you.

BoredFrom, why are you so intent on avoiding the fact that it will inject a much-needed impetus for conscious decision making of its users into this website.  More thoughtful intentionality on a website that essentially runs on addiction-validation is a good thing.  It's a good thing that people will have to stop and think about if they want to directly support the owner and platform they disagree with.   The exposure of having to put your money on the table is a good contingency for thoughtful decisions.   This website is so obnoxious because it's completely thoughtless - people farm likes and retweets using the most provactive and smarmy 250 or whatever character wordbites.  Everyone tries to be a fucking comedian.  People have their reputations destroyed by thoughtless mobs engaging in collective smothering that costs each of them nothing - and bluechecks get to lead those mobs.  It will turn the incessant Elon shittalkers into obvious hypocrites the moment they have to decide if a shiny badge on a website is worth more than their pretend-convictions that they constantly tweet about. 

There is NO downside to any of this.  The conclusion is self-evident: If this destroys the website, it needed to be destroyed because it would mean it was worthless shit to begin with.

I don’t need to celebrate Elon or get mad that Stephen King doesn’t want to pay for the blue mark.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on November 01, 2022, 03:16:01 PM
yea you do
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on November 01, 2022, 03:29:43 PM
yea you do

Why? I don’t even use twitter anymore, and way before Elon took over.  :elon

I’m just laughing of Elon getting reduced to do car salesman pitch to Stephen King, and somehow people are mad at Stephen King because… ?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on November 01, 2022, 03:35:00 PM
 :doge
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 01, 2022, 04:14:29 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/E5Y0EQn.png)

lol lool loool

PLEASE
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 02, 2022, 12:37:59 AM
https://twitter.com/katienotopoulos/status/1587465303319003141
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 02, 2022, 04:07:15 AM
https://twitter.com/CultureCrave/status/1587700633473163264 (https://twitter.com/CultureCrave/status/1587700633473163264)

Nature is healing, thank you Elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on November 02, 2022, 05:20:25 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/m9lH5F9.png)

Now make the fence ten feet high and you've essentially created Socialism the comic.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 02, 2022, 10:18:23 AM
I'm not sure whether he's just abjectly stupid or deliberately sabotaging the platform to drive certain people away. It's clear that facts don't matter to him and he will not back down on being wrong. He was wrong about bots before the purchase and is still wrong; I'd imagine multiple engineers have shown him the data over the last week. He doesn't understand the point of the blue check system, which was to entice celebs (by preventing them from being drowned in thousands of replies/notifications to their posts) and provide verified accounts the ability to tweet out news/information (politicians, news and sports journalists, etc).

So the result will be a flood of troll/spam blue checks posting fake news. Fake Woj accounts announcing fake NBA trades, fake Fox News accounts announcing the death of world leaders, etc. Elon has said that scam/fake accounts will lose their blue check but we've all been on the internet long enough to know that's not going to stop what's coming. Perhaps more importantly none of this adds up to a big enough financial incentive for this to make sense. I'm sure some true believers will purchase a blue check. Most people won't.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 02, 2022, 11:10:32 AM
I get the feeling everyone has turned off their thinking skills

https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1587647032457449473

Like does she not understand that it's $8 for the verified mark, not for posting at all?

That said...

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1587627120355934208

Now Musk himself is presenting it like you'd have to pay $8 to keep posting.

Does no one understand what is going on?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 02, 2022, 11:14:42 AM
"it" being the blue check I guess :idont
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 02, 2022, 11:19:38 AM
people correcting AOC in her replies are getting the boilerplate "weird nerds caping for musk" memes

:mindblown

it's literally true, it's not defending anyone

AOC: "Trump says the moon was constructed by the Jews, get this dangerous antisemite out of politics"

humans: "...what, no he didn't say that"

AOC stans: "WHY ARE YOU DEFENDING TRUMP LOL BLOCKED"
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 02, 2022, 11:21:48 AM
I get the feeling everyone has turned off their thinking skills

https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1587647032457449473

Like does she not understand that it's $8 for the verified mark, not for posting at all?

That said...

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1587627120355934208

Now Musk himself is presenting it like you'd have to pay $8 to keep posting.

Does no one understand what is going on?

It's the "if you don't have a blue check, you're worthless/subhuman" mentality. The logical conclusion being, if you don't have a blue check, what's the point of even posting on Twitter at all? When everyone wears a crown, no one is king. These people are just mad they've been demoted back to "peasant status" on the world's shittiest website.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 02, 2022, 11:24:21 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/KVsvS6U.gif)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 02, 2022, 11:52:29 AM
I'm not sure whether he's just abjectly stupid or deliberately sabotaging the platform to drive certain people away. It's clear that facts don't matter to him and he will not back down on being wrong. He was wrong about bots before the purchase and is still wrong; I'd imagine multiple engineers have shown him the data over the last week. He doesn't understand the point of the blue check system, which was to entice celebs (by preventing them from being drowned in thousands of replies/notifications to their posts) and provide verified accounts the ability to tweet out news/information (politicians, news and sports journalists, etc).

So the result will be a flood of troll/spam blue checks posting fake news. Fake Woj accounts announcing fake NBA trades, fake Fox News accounts announcing the death of world leaders, etc. Elon has said that scam/fake accounts will lose their blue check but we've all been on the internet long enough to know that's not going to stop what's coming. Perhaps more importantly none of this adds up to a big enough financial incentive for this to make sense. I'm sure some true believers will purchase a blue check. Most people won't.

I didn't even think about that part. It's not just that someone like AOC will presumably not have a blue check anymore, making harder to identify if it's the real account, it's that someone else with the A0C handle will now have a blue check, claiming to be the real one.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 02, 2022, 12:05:53 PM
I'm not sure whether he's just abjectly stupid or deliberately sabotaging the platform to drive certain people away. It's clear that facts don't matter to him and he will not back down on being wrong. He was wrong about bots before the purchase and is still wrong; I'd imagine multiple engineers have shown him the data over the last week. He doesn't understand the point of the blue check system, which was to entice celebs (by preventing them from being drowned in thousands of replies/notifications to their posts) and provide verified accounts the ability to tweet out news/information (politicians, news and sports journalists, etc).

So the result will be a flood of troll/spam blue checks posting fake news. Fake Woj accounts announcing fake NBA trades, fake Fox News accounts announcing the death of world leaders, etc. Elon has said that scam/fake accounts will lose their blue check but we've all been on the internet long enough to know that's not going to stop what's coming. Perhaps more importantly none of this adds up to a big enough financial incentive for this to make sense. I'm sure some true believers will purchase a blue check. Most people won't.

I didn't even think about that part. It's not just that someone like AOC will presumably not have a blue check anymore, making harder to identify if it's the real account, it's that someone else with the A0C handle will now have a blue check, claiming to be the real one.

Imagine the fake celebrity endorsed crypto scams this could generate too. Or fake Door Dash/Grubhub discount scams to collect emails. Or fake politician scams signing people up for mailing lists.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 02, 2022, 12:13:55 PM
this does presume that people having blue checks wasn't already scattershot to begin with, and that people were already smart enough to check the check and make sure they weren't being scammed

twitter will only be as bad as email ever was
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on November 02, 2022, 12:13:59 PM
I'm not sure whether he's just abjectly stupid or deliberately sabotaging the platform to drive certain people away. It's clear that facts don't matter to him and he will not back down on being wrong. He was wrong about bots before the purchase and is still wrong; I'd imagine multiple engineers have shown him the data over the last week. He doesn't understand the point of the blue check system, which was to entice celebs (by preventing them from being drowned in thousands of replies/notifications to their posts) and provide verified accounts the ability to tweet out news/information (politicians, news and sports journalists, etc).

So the result will be a flood of troll/spam blue checks posting fake news. Fake Woj accounts announcing fake NBA trades, fake Fox News accounts announcing the death of world leaders, etc. Elon has said that scam/fake accounts will lose their blue check but we've all been on the internet long enough to know that's not going to stop what's coming. Perhaps more importantly none of this adds up to a big enough financial incentive for this to make sense. I'm sure some true believers will purchase a blue check. Most people won't.

I didn't even think about that part. It's not just that someone like AOC will presumably not have a blue check anymore, making harder to identify if it's the real account, it's that someone else with the A0C handle will now have a blue check, claiming to be the real one.

But right now you can just photoshop anyone on twitter saying anything they want, and the people whod fall for @A0C will fall for that as well, just as they'll fall for customerserviceagent97@gmail.com emails telling them their bank of america account has been hacked and to click here to reconfirm their details.

The intentions of why the bluetick started are somewhat irrelevant to what the bluetick currently represents, and when bluetick techblogger retweets fake news *now* its the same problem, and when Raidboss-of-the-day twitter target gets #cancelled they don't have any bluetick only reprieve from being swamped in vitriol by the mob.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tuckers Law on November 02, 2022, 12:34:43 PM
Before Elon bought Twitter, the internet truly was a space safe from celebrities hocking crypto scams and shady sites selling you questionable coupons in exchange for your email address and information.  I sure do miss that internet!
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: MMaRsu on November 02, 2022, 12:39:26 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FggI2ywXEAEkkWD?format=png&name=small)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 02, 2022, 01:14:10 PM
I don't think we have to worry too much about the idea of people buying blue checks just to troll and scam, because buying leaves a paper trail, the legal name attached to the credit card or paypal account or whatever, right  ???
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on November 02, 2022, 01:19:47 PM
Has it actually been confirmed that literally any rando can just buy a blue check?

Figured it’d be the exact same verification process, only that you have to pay for it now. Sounds like doom posting without any details unless I missed something.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Coax on November 02, 2022, 01:30:19 PM
So the result will be a flood of troll/spam blue checks posting fake news. Fake Woj accounts announcing fake NBA trades, fake Fox News accounts announcing the death of world leaders, etc. Elon has said that scam/fake accounts will lose their blue check but we've all been on the internet long enough to know that's not going to stop what's coming.

The verification part of the process isn't just suddenly going to disappear though, no? Though I haven't paid enough attention to Twitter to know whether they've verified users posing as others before.

Edit: took too long to post :doge
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 02, 2022, 01:40:39 PM
So the result will be a flood of troll/spam blue checks posting fake news. Fake Woj accounts announcing fake NBA trades, fake Fox News accounts announcing the death of world leaders, etc. Elon has said that scam/fake accounts will lose their blue check but we've all been on the internet long enough to know that's not going to stop what's coming.

The verification part of the process isn't just suddenly going to disappear though, no? Though I haven't paid enough attention to Twitter to know whether they've verified users posing as others before.

Edit: took too long to post :doge

however for a long time people have been bemoaning the verification process and saying it's too easy for any rando to get a blue check, tons of people you've never heard of who are activists or influencers  :doge
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: thetylerrob on November 02, 2022, 01:43:49 PM
I don't think we have to worry too much about the idea of people buying blue checks just to troll and scam, because buying leaves a paper trail, the legal name attached to the credit card or paypal account or whatever, right  ???
Musk is already implying that you'll be able to pay with crypto lol.

I still can't tell if Musk is trying to save his investment in good faith or if he is actually just trolling. The clutching at pearls about blue checks being handed out to nobodies is pretty funny though; that ship sailed a long time ago.

I don't like Musk or blue check Twitter so I'm just enjoying the schadenfreude.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 02, 2022, 01:48:23 PM
a terrifying glimpse into the future of un-checked twitter

https://twitter.com/AIJazeeraBrazil/status/1587593278769209344

https://twitter.com/AIJazeeraBrazil/status/1587594359867850753
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 02, 2022, 01:56:46 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/IXgJo3w.jpeg)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 02, 2022, 02:04:20 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1587798343622737925 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1587798343622737925)

my my how the turn tables
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: headwalk on November 02, 2022, 02:05:50 PM
maybe after all it wasn't such a great idea building global political discourse around a publicly traded business that anybody could buy out and do whatever the fuck they wanted with.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 02, 2022, 02:09:52 PM
https://twitter.com/PhilipWegmann/status/1587866440924790784 (https://twitter.com/PhilipWegmann/status/1587866440924790784)

maybe after all it wasn't such a great idea building global political discourse around a publicly traded business that anybody could buy out and do whatever the fuck they wanted with.
Another piece of Obama's legacy  :obama


Also all the government blue checks :money
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 02, 2022, 02:16:10 PM
The notes feature debuted well before Elon.

Its also easy to influence if you own a troll farm
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 02, 2022, 02:18:59 PM
maybe after all it wasn't such a great idea building global political discourse around a publicly traded business that anybody could buy out and do whatever the fuck they wanted with.

just curious what comes next

will the international news media pull a resetera and flock to some other platform like mastodon? countersocial? cohost? something new?

"in other news our correspondents on Glorper have exchanged several glorps expressing how they feel this will impact upcoming elections"

"and now we turn to you over on ScuttleBug, let's read some public scuttles and see what you have to say about this surprising turn of events"

"the US president finds himself in hot water over a controversial upchuck he posted on UpChucker last night"
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 02, 2022, 02:20:13 PM
What happened to Musk solving the Ukraine issue
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: headwalk on November 02, 2022, 02:28:04 PM
i distinctly remember how weird it was when the BBC first included @ handles next to their news reporters' names. it was like coming upstairs to find your dad doing his taxes on your megadrive in a sonic 2 debug mode.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 02, 2022, 06:28:37 PM
people correcting AOC in her replies are getting the boilerplate "weird nerds caping for musk" memes

:mindblown

it's literally true, it's not defending anyone

AOC: "Trump says the moon was constructed by the Jews, get this dangerous antisemite out of politics"

humans: "...what, no he didn't say that"

AOC stans: "WHY ARE YOU DEFENDING TRUMP LOL BLOCKED"
There's some YouTube video they post a lot about how you shouldn't engage the alt-right, just tell them to shut the fuck up because they're all dishonest and will manipulate/sealion/JAQoff/botspam/troll/etc. you into harming democracy. (You can tell if someone is alt-right by if they say something you don't like.) And outright Nazis like anyone who defends anything that will lead to fascism (free speech, civil liberties, rational thinking, etc.) you just need to do what we do when we defeated Nazis the first time. Not to mention how anyone who corrects you with facts or logic is someone you need to block for your personal safety.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 02, 2022, 06:32:05 PM
Meanwhile on Twitter

https://twitter.com/CountDankulaTV/status/1587920295095988224 (https://twitter.com/CountDankulaTV/status/1587920295095988224)

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1587911540770222081 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1587911540770222081)

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1587891883421798400 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1587891883421798400)

:elon

just curious what comes next
lawyers and court rooms.

This whole thing is backed by shady money and not paying out the golden parachutes won't go over well.
Elon essentially bought the worlds press office.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 02, 2022, 06:51:48 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1587891883421798400 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1587891883421798400)
:playa

Gotta have shitposter solidarity when he does ones like this.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 02, 2022, 07:00:47 PM
he's clearly already gotten his money's worth

imagine any human being able to do this at any point in history, the middle ages, backtalk any king in the world knowing they can't/won't do a thing to stop you
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 02, 2022, 07:11:26 PM
He pinned the AOC tweet  :lol

and he added this
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1587923502354472960 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1587923502354472960)

King Shit  :playa
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 02, 2022, 07:13:25 PM
That could buy you a Twitter checkmark for... 7.25 months.

What's the yearly sub option?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Polident Hive on November 02, 2022, 07:33:55 PM
Feel like there’s a lesson here about tying your brand and personality to a private platform. How after years of making Twitter a “valuable” part of democracy and speech, whatever they’re on about, can backfire.

Side note, I saw people saying Musk impulsively dropped Twitter Pro’s price from $20 to $8 after an interaction with King… they’d get wiped out if they ever visited a bazaar.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 02, 2022, 07:42:31 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ABTkkyR.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/LC0ZeGd.gif)

Quote
THE SNEETCHES
by Theodor Geisel (1961)

Now, the Star-Belly Sneetches
Had bellies with stars.
The Plain-Belly Sneetches
Had none upon thars.

Those stars weren't so big. They were really so small
You might think such a thing wouldn't matter at all.
But, because they had stars, all the Star-Belly Sneetches
Would brag, "We're the best kind of Sneetch on the beaches."
With their snoots in the air, they would sniff and they'd snort
“We'll have nothing to do with the Plain-Belly sort!"
And whenever they met some, when they were out walking,
They'd hike right on past them without even talking.

When the Star-Belly children went out to play ball,
Could a Plain-Belly get in the game...? Not at all.
You could only play if your bellies had stars
And the Plain-Belly children had none upon thars.

When the Star-Belly Sneetches had frankfurter roasts
Or picnics or parties or marshmallow toasts,
They never invited the Plain-Belly Sneetches.
They left them out cold, in the dark of the beaches.
They kept them away. Never let them come near.
And that's how they treated them year after year.

Then ONE day, it seems...while the Plain-Belly Sneetches
Were moping and doping alone on the beaches,
Just sitting there wishing their bellies had stars...
A stranger zipped up in the strangest of cars!

"My friends," he announced in a voice clear and keen,
"My name is Sylvester McMonkey McBean.
And I've heard of your troubles. I've heard you're unhappy.
But I can fix that. I'm the Fix-it-Up Chappie.
I've come here to help you. I have what you need.
And my prices are low. And I work at great speed.
And my work is one hundred per cent guaranteed!"

Then, quickly, Sylvester McMonkey McBean
Put together a very peculiar machine.
And he said, "You want stars like a Star-Belly Sneetch...?
My friends, you can have them for three dollars each!”
“Just pay me your money and hop right aboard!"
So they clambered inside. Then the big machine roared
And it clonked. And it bonked. And it jerked. And it berked
And it bopped them about. But the thing really worked!
When the Plain-Belly Sneetches popped out, they had stars!
They actually did. They had stars upon thars!

Then they yelled at the ones who had stars from the start,
"We're exactly like you! You can't tell us apart.
We're all just the same, now, you snooty old smarties!
And now we can go to your frankfurter parties."

"Good grief!" groaned the ones who had stars at the first.
"We're still the best Sneetches and they are the worst.
But, now, how in the world will we know," they all frowned,
"If which kind is what, or the other way round?"

Then up came McBean with a very sly wink
And he said, "Things are not quite as bad as you think.
So you don't know who's who. That’s perfectly true.
But come with me, friends. Do you know what I'll do?
I'll make you, again, the best Sneetches on beaches
And all it will cost you is ten dollars eaches.”

Belly stars are no longer in style," said McBean.
"What you need is a trip through my Star-Off machine.
This wondrous contraption will take off your stars
So you won't look like Sneetches who have them on thars."
And that handy machine
Working very precisely
Removed all the stars from their tummies quite nicely.

Then, with snoots in the air, they paraded about
And they opened their beaks and they let out a shout,
"We know who is who! Now there isn't a doubt.
The best kind of Sneetches are Sneetches without!"

Then, of course, those with stars all got frightfully mad.
To be wearing a star now was frightfully bad.
Then, of course, old Sylvester McMonkey McBean
Invited them into his Star-Off Machine.

Then, of course from then on, as you probably guess,
Things really got into a horrible mess.
All the rest of that day, on those wild screaming beaches,
The Fix-it-Up Chappie kept fixing up Sneetches.
Off again! On again!
In again! Out again!
Through the machines they raced round and about again,
Changing their stars every minute or two.
They kept paying money. They kept running through
Until neither the Plain nor the Star-Bellies knew
Whether this one was that one...or that one was this one
Or which one was what one...or what one was who.

Then, when every last cent
Of their money was spent,
The Fix-it-Up Chappie packed up
And he went.

And he laughed as he drove
In his car up the beach,
"They never will learn.
No. You can't teach a Sneetch!"

But McBean was quite wrong. I'm quite happy to say
The Sneetches got really quite smart on that day,
The day they decided that Sneetches are Sneetches
And no kind of Sneetch is the best on the beaches.
That day, all the Sneetches forgot about stars
And whether they had one, or not, upon thars.
The end.


literally birds who tweet, and literally have stars they're proud of

a motherfucker with a weird name AND A WEIRD CAR rolls up and offers to sell stars to anyone

then the birds with stars get pissed off and consider themselves superior for NOT having stars

while the weird motherfucker keeps milking profit from them

:whoo

am I taking crazy pills?

the world must know about this

(https://i.imgur.com/GQ75P0C.png)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 02, 2022, 09:47:00 PM
How do I convince 3|*n to change "What's happening" to "Trending based on your interests you dummy"? Should I just DM him? I'm not sure how this whole billion dollar company has a single admin now thing is supposed to work.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on November 02, 2022, 11:03:37 PM
Thought for the day: If Twatter were to disappear tomorrow, would democracy be better or worse off?

Better, because journalists would actually have to go back to actually researching and speaking to real sources instead of just linking a tweet and thinking of a one line zinger for a headline.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 02, 2022, 11:04:49 PM
Thought for the day: If Twatter were to disappear tomorrow, would democracy be better or worse off?

Better, because journalists would actually have to go back to actually researching and speaking to real sources instead of just linking a tweet and thinking of a one line zinger for a headline.
Assumes facts not in evidence.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 02, 2022, 11:18:09 PM
Thought for the day: If Twatter were to disappear tomorrow, would democracy be better or worse off?

Better, because journalists would actually have to go back to actually researching and speaking to real sources instead of just linking a tweet and thinking of a one line zinger for a headline.

if the question is "if Musk shut it down tomorrow," people are too used to the status quo to not just build it again but somehow even worse/more abusive/insular/paranoid (see tumblr leaving to infest reddit and twitter, or neogaf)

if the question is "if we all woke up as if from a long slumber and twitter had never existed,"
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://i.imgur.com/HoLpOMM.gif)
[close]
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Transhuman on November 02, 2022, 11:34:50 PM
You know people complain about misinformation being harmful to mental health, but thebore shows the world exactly as it is, and it still damages my mental health
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 03, 2022, 01:47:01 AM
https://twitter.com/growing_daniel/status/1587636218782568448

https://twitter.com/tara_chara/status/1587898660884549640
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 03, 2022, 02:07:20 AM
https://twitter.com/Sigmundine2/status/1587548144937615363
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 03, 2022, 02:08:17 AM
https://twitter.com/qtomris/status/1587824854719397890
https://twitter.com/BradMossEsq/status/1587504700479442952

 :dead
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on November 03, 2022, 02:13:42 AM

https://twitter.com/growing_daniel/status/1587636218782568448 (https://twitter.com/growing_daniel/status/1587636218782568448)

https://twitter.com/tara_chara/status/1587898660884549640 (https://twitter.com/tara_chara/status/1587898660884549640)
I see the blue check sycophants/nobodies are taking this well 
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 03, 2022, 02:17:59 AM
There is so much amazing stupidity I keep coming across, it'll never be possible to see how many dumb things have been said about this:
https://twitter.com/DWUhlfelderLaw/status/1587504487853334533

https://twitter.com/VABVOX/status/1587502789772693504

https://twitter.com/schachin/status/1587341058324590592
https://twitter.com/schachin/status/1587341602376151040
https://twitter.com/schachin/status/1587342750826889217
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 03, 2022, 02:35:13 AM
https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1587639631218036736

i can't stop looking, help
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on November 03, 2022, 03:48:26 AM
oh no my bots
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on November 03, 2022, 03:48:52 AM
also keep looking benji

i need it to get new followers when i repost what you find
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 03, 2022, 03:50:06 AM
also keep looking benji

i need it to get new followers when i repost what you find
https://twitter.com/RobertKazinsky/status/1587929030120341504
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on November 03, 2022, 05:25:27 AM
They'll pay up, no matter the whinging they are doing now, they'll all pay their $8/month and continue to feel like they're lording it over the regular users
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on November 03, 2022, 05:30:12 AM
Without the bluetick system, children are at risk of being groomed by noname nobodies instead of verified celebrities like kevin spacey, bryan singer, jared leto or ezra miller
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on November 03, 2022, 05:35:31 AM
imagine thinking $20 bucks a month for this sheisters is a hurt.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 03, 2022, 06:37:14 AM
amazing how depending on who you talk to the world's ills are either funded by george soros or peter thiel
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 03, 2022, 11:07:08 AM
Im going to sell my Tesla stock. At the end of the day, this will end poorly for musk.

Not because of the blue check meltdowns, but simply because the companies that spend the most on ads are very risk conscious. Companies like Toyota, Progressive Insurance, Proctor and Gamble etc have nothing to lose by leaving twitter ads. The vast majority of people that consume Twitter content do it 2nd hand via embedded tweets in articles and such where no ads are displayed.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 03, 2022, 11:38:57 AM
https://twitter.com/Sigmundine2/status/1587548144937615363

Providing more context to a story, classic Soviet tactic
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 03, 2022, 12:06:40 PM
What still amuses me the most is the 180 from "Twitter is a private company, they can do what they want" after Trump got banned to "Twitter is too important to be in the hand of a private individual" after Musk bought it
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: jorma on November 03, 2022, 12:09:47 PM
https://twitter.com/Sigmundine2/status/1587548144937615363

Providing more context to a story, classic Soviet tactic

He is probably referencing the sovjet newspaper pravda and how they would fact check Stalin and call him a liar all the time.  :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 03, 2022, 12:11:26 PM
What still amuses me the most is the 180 from "Twitter is a private company, they can do what they want" after Trump got banned to "Twitter is too important to be in the hand of a private individual" after Musk bought it

as opposed to the private individuals who ran it before and apparently allowed it to be filled with nazis and phobes
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 03, 2022, 12:20:43 PM
Thought for the day: If Twatter were to disappear tomorrow, would democracy be better or worse off?

Better, because journalists would actually have to go back to actually researching and speaking to real sources instead of just linking a tweet and thinking of a one line zinger for a headline.
Nah because it's not a vacuum where the existence of twitter is the problem. If twitter disappears there will be a new app at some point, where all these people flock to. Just like MySpace dying didn't stop people from having online friends.

I don't tweet much but use twitter daily - largely for news. Sports, politics, music. It's usually the fast way for me to learn about something that interests me. An album release date, sports event, news, etc.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 03, 2022, 12:34:31 PM
here's my genuine question of the day: will we ever know if twitter is actually dying/performing worse, either as a global service or in terms of the underlying technology failing, or will it just be a series of "owns" shouted loudly without proper evidence from both sides?

like here's resetera:

(https://i.imgur.com/DPuDmFl.png)

I'm not even sure it's possible for the site to be performing noticeably worse in this capacity already

maybe it's, y'know, lots of increased traffic and thus hammering the servers + a personal interest in applying scrutiny you never did previously?

the site's going to be both dying and thriving for the next decade, isn't it?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on November 03, 2022, 01:53:40 PM
"performance"
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 03, 2022, 01:59:13 PM
here's my genuine question of the day: will we ever know if twitter is actually dying/performing worse, either as a global service or in terms of the underlying technology failing, or will it just be a series of "owns" shouted loudly without proper evidence from both sides?

Someone needs to set up a website that tracks activity, like the reseta ban bot.

Since Twitter is private, we dont get any data on active users or revenue.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: headwalk on November 03, 2022, 02:29:17 PM
i love the idea of twitter collapsing, but then i love it when i firework falls over after its lit.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 03, 2022, 02:35:15 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/9OOwAYv.gif)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 03, 2022, 04:02:28 PM
I'm no tech guy, but tech guys have told me twitter has some of the best engineers in the world and the site works incredibly well because of it. It rarely goes down or has problems. I'd imagine we could see some fuck ups but tbh it's prob designed so well it'll be fine. I think the bigger issue will be content moderation.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 03, 2022, 04:05:59 PM
Twitter's redesign ~5(?) years ago was incredibly cutting edge from a performance and accessibility (engineering) standpoint. One of the first true mainstream Progressive Web Apps.

To be fair, the Fail Wail was a meme (and something I personally encountered many times*) during Twitter's early days, so uptime wasn't great until about 2012 (maybe due to the election) or so. (*I held an account from 2009 to 2018.)

They also lose points for shutting down their open API a while back, had a pretty fun time experimenting with it before then.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 03, 2022, 05:34:10 PM
Right wingers now worried Elon might not change much about Twitter's policies

https://twitter.com/lavern_spicer/status/1587874669012697090
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 03, 2022, 05:40:33 PM
Ego aside, this is why I'm baffled Elon has decided to make himself the face of Twitter instead of installing a CEO to implement changes. All complaints and blame go directly at Elon, and he spends insane amounts of time reacting to it - making it worse. The little tit for tat with AOC hasn't stopped conservatives from bitching, either.

Also I think a lot of liberals are being disingenuous about the hate speech stuff. You can search the n-word right now and clearly see that shit got cleaned up fast. Not to say nothing has fallen through the cracks, but that was always the case (see: ISIS videos). My concerns are way more about the likely spam/misinformation apocalypses he is gleefully ushering in with this blue check change.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 03, 2022, 06:48:15 PM
What still amuses me the most is the 180 from "Twitter is a private company, they can do what they want" after Trump got banned to "Twitter is too important to be in the hand of a private individual" after Musk bought it
FACT CHECK: It's not hypocritical because their position is there should only be Good Private Owners and Elon Musk is Bad.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on November 03, 2022, 06:56:12 PM
Well, he seems to be pretty bad at it.  :elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 03, 2022, 07:18:57 PM
Well, he seems to be pretty bad at it.  :elon
Firing existing management is a totally normal thing for new owners to do.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 03, 2022, 07:22:05 PM
https://twitter.com/Arr/status/1588021175493562372 (https://twitter.com/Arr/status/1588021175493562372)

:hesright
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 03, 2022, 07:52:17 PM
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1588257225260138497 (https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1588257225260138497)

Trump was right when he said she was just like him.  :doge
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 03, 2022, 08:11:59 PM
I have a crazy theory.

Anyone, right or left, who complains about shadow banning and shit like that has 99% of the time no idea what they're talking about
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 03, 2022, 08:14:34 PM
Is my Twitter app broken and I maybe should try reinstalling it? No, it's Elon and the cabal trying to stop my powerful world changing speech.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 03, 2022, 08:15:11 PM
I have a crazy theory.

Anyone, right or left, who complains about shadow banning and shit like that has 99% of the time no idea what they're talking about

peter thiel is funding the erasure of aoc's notifications
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on November 03, 2022, 08:16:33 PM
She couldn’t eat the tendies before or after filming the video?  :kobeyuck
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 03, 2022, 08:17:38 PM
Elon Musk sliding into AOCs DM's :elon

She couldn’t eat the tendies before or after filming the video?  :kobeyuck
Gotta appeal to the feeder base too.
Honestly, I'm surprised she isn't just doing the Twitch donation thing  :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 03, 2022, 08:24:00 PM
She couldn’t eat the tendies before or after filming the video?  :kobeyuck
That was the best part though.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 03, 2022, 09:00:05 PM
"alright the first time we tried the vid, it turned out popping in an entire tendie was too much of a mouthful to get the words out at a reasonable cadence.  we could work with that but the voting public doesn't like to see cuts in a video, it feels less natural, so this time we need you to peel off tiny chunks of one tendie.  it won't be enough to taste but that's alright, we just need you eating.  put your hands really close to the camera so it will make the tendie look bigger, it'll seem like you're really eating a lot of it that way.  the casual friendly feel of talking with your mouth occupied will really get the message across that you're not mad at all"
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 03, 2022, 09:05:29 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgonBQAXgAAACMY?format=png&name=small)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 03, 2022, 09:18:40 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/wQO4Snx.png)

 :kermit
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 03, 2022, 09:21:53 PM
:rage
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 03, 2022, 09:29:03 PM
https://twotter.xyz/ (https://twotter.xyz/)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 03, 2022, 09:41:16 PM
Prediction: There will be media about Twitter/musk being fined under the California WARN Act (having to pay everyone getting fired)

28 hours later he will announce HQ moving to Texas.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 03, 2022, 09:46:00 PM
https://twotter.xyz/ (https://twotter.xyz/)
"Free speech."

Why would I sign up for some Nazi website? :yuck
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 03, 2022, 09:53:51 PM
Im going to sell my Tesla stock. At the end of the day, this will end poorly for musk.

Not because of the blue check meltdowns, but simply because the companies that spend the most on ads are very risk conscious. Companies like Toyota, Progressive Insurance, Proctor and Gamble etc have nothing to lose by leaving twitter ads. The vast majority of people that consume Twitter content do it 2nd hand via embedded tweets in articles and such where no ads are displayed.

Put my TSLA for sale tomorrow am

Sorry Elon, but youre taking Tesla down with you

Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on November 03, 2022, 10:56:08 PM
She couldn’t eat the tendies before or after filming the video?  :kobeyuck
That was the best part though.

Remind me to never check your search history  :jeanluc

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Share the degeneracy with us benji  :phil
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Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 04, 2022, 12:38:25 AM
https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1588160088346198016
https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1588222809431416832
https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1588228786822135812
https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1588241335697301506
https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1588242831126106113
https://twitter.com/mmpadellan/status/1588227247697457153
https://twitter.com/brguest20/status/1588251134845587458
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 04, 2022, 01:30:24 AM
Im hearing rumors that Tesla engineers are visiting blue checks at night and executing them with a shot to the head. This isnt being reported on twitter because any post about it is immediately deleted. By the time the people realize whats happening it will be too late
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 04, 2022, 02:50:38 AM
Im hearing rumors that Tesla engineers are visiting blue checks at night and executing them with a shot to the head. This isnt being reported on twitter because any post about it is immediately deleted. By the time the people realize whats happening it will be too late
It's really sus that there's nothing on Twitter about this. Elon's is having his censors cleanse the platform completely of free speech. That's how you know there must be something to this.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tuckers Law on November 04, 2022, 03:32:30 AM
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1588257225260138497 (https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1588257225260138497)

Trump was right when he said she was just like him.  :doge

So was Alex Stein when he started praising big booty latinas.  Come on AOC, you know it’s true.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on November 04, 2022, 07:40:28 AM
Summary
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 04, 2022, 08:44:26 AM
Musky has never been one to be concerned with trivialities such as the law. That's for peasants.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 04, 2022, 09:23:56 AM
It's funny because it seems like such an avoidable issue. Give people their 60 day notice, what difference does it really make for musk?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 04, 2022, 10:54:00 AM
I've seen others with experience with the WARN act who have said paying someone for 60 days while they are technically fired still counts as 60 days notice so really all he has to do is pay them
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 04, 2022, 11:04:21 AM
It's funny because it seems like such an avoidable issue. Give people their 60 day notice, what difference does it really make for musk?

How does the saying go...the cruelty is the point. Granted these are top tier employees who will be snatched up in a heart beat. But uncertainty is never a good thing, and certainly not when it comes to losing healthcare during what is supposed to be open enrollment.

We'll see what happens. The state of California and the AG will likely go pretty hard on this but at the same time, he can probably delay this legally. I was confident he was fucked on the Twitter deal case (and turned out to be correct) because rich people were involved. A class action lawsuit tho...ehhh. Who knows. Maybe the AG wants to be the next senator from CA and goes wild on this. We'll see.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 04, 2022, 11:12:29 AM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1588538640401018880

 :tauntaun :tauntaun :tauntaun
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 04, 2022, 11:16:38 AM
https://twitter.com/TheHorrorGuru/status/1588004069439901698
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 04, 2022, 11:20:06 AM
Solution: we send musk, his dickriders, blueticks and assorted other lame libs somewhere to hash this all out and then drone the shit out of them :salute
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on November 04, 2022, 11:21:42 AM
https://twitter.com/TheHorrorGuru/status/1588004069439901698

I’m fairness, old white dudes living in Thailand have a 99.9% chance of being pedos :idont
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 04, 2022, 11:22:13 AM
it is funny though, just like any topic on twitter, the takeover and new regime running it has quickly become tedious as fuck :elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 04, 2022, 11:23:27 AM
https://twitter.com/TheHorrorGuru/status/1588004069439901698

I feel the inherent urge to pointlessly correct the tweet and point out that the guy he called a pedo was someone who had mapped the cave but wasn't one of the rescue divers. (Though he was the one to suggest to bring in the British divers)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 04, 2022, 11:24:41 AM
What people forget about the cave thing is AFTER the kids were rescued, Musk said he would send in a submarine anyway just to prove he was right.

Of course he never did
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 04, 2022, 11:57:26 AM
What people forget about the cave thing is AFTER the kids were rescued, Musk said he would send in a submarine anyway just to prove he was right.

Of course he never did

Trump shit. All that matters is the headline, because there will be no followup. So you announce you're gonna sue someone for releasing a story about you, and then you never do.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 04, 2022, 12:44:09 PM
It's funny because it seems like such an avoidable issue. Give people their 60 day notice, what difference does it really make for musk?

How does the saying go...the cruelty is the point. Granted these are top tier employees who will be snatched up in a heart beat. But uncertainty is never a good thing, and certainly not when it comes to losing healthcare during what is supposed to be open enrollment.

We'll see what happens. The state of California and the AG will likely go pretty hard on this but at the same time, he can probably delay this legally. I was confident he was fucked on the Twitter deal case (and turned out to be correct) because rich people were involved. A class action lawsuit tho...ehhh. Who knows. Maybe the AG wants to be the next senator from CA and goes wild on this. We'll see.

Iirc Tesla already semi-won against a recent WARN suit and even if he loses the amount is negligible to Elon compared to the purchase price. It's a calculated risk that already seems to have worked for him once already.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 04, 2022, 12:55:51 PM
https://twitter.com/Angry_Staffer/status/1588569650136109061


 :tauntaun :tauntaun :tauntaun :tauntaun
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 04, 2022, 01:15:19 PM
BREAKING NEWS: Joe Rogan is set to tweet the N Word at 7pm as Elon Musk tries to bring more eyes to the ailing social media platform.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 04, 2022, 01:15:57 PM
https://twotter.xyz/ (https://twotter.xyz/)
From the folks that brought you this

https://twitter.com/y4kxyz/status/1524893128444067841 (https://twitter.com/y4kxyz/status/1524893128444067841)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 04, 2022, 02:02:49 PM
https://twitter.com/Angry_Staffer/status/1588569650136109061


 :tauntaun :tauntaun :tauntaun :tauntaun
I thought this was fake lmaooo

Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: jorma on November 04, 2022, 02:04:38 PM
https://twitter.com/Angry_Staffer/status/1588569650136109061


 :tauntaun :tauntaun :tauntaun :tauntaun

i'm confused, how is the added context doing anything but reinfoce what he just stated? what am i missing?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 04, 2022, 02:11:29 PM
https://twitter.com/Angry_Staffer/status/1588569650136109061


 :tauntaun :tauntaun :tauntaun :tauntaun

i'm confused, how is the added context doing anything but reinfoce what he just stated? what am i missing?

Musk: Theyre leaving because of activists

Fact check reality: Theyre leaving because Musk fired all the content moderators


Also, if you dont see it on your account, the fact checks dont always show up.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: jorma on November 04, 2022, 02:26:12 PM
https://twitter.com/Angry_Staffer/status/1588569650136109061


 :tauntaun :tauntaun :tauntaun :tauntaun

i'm confused, how is the added context doing anything but reinfoce what he just stated? what am i missing?

Musk: Theyre leaving because of activists

Fact check reality: Theyre leaving because Musk fired all the content moderators


Also, if you dont see it on your account, the fact checks dont always show up.

lol, advertisers don't give a shit about the actual content moderation they only give a shit about what their consumers think about the content moderation. what i got from musk is that "activists" are contacting advertisers and saying that twitter moderation sucks now, and those advertisers are saying "oh we won't buy ads then"



Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 04, 2022, 02:43:41 PM
yeah everything on the internet is based on the number of people who complain about something, it's never about actual fact

this is why people can point out inconsistencies like some random insignificant nobodies getting banned from twitter for vaguely being mean (because they were brigaded by reports) while middle eastern authoritarian politicians and leaders of terrorist groups skate by (because no one speaks their moon language)



anyway content moderation on twitter actually has not changed yet because most of it is automatic, but firing those in charge of maintaining those systems could represent a change in future direction
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 04, 2022, 03:02:53 PM
Having car engineers alter the start-up crunch code of the developers he fired is going to be a fuck around - find out moment for Musk  :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 04, 2022, 05:26:50 PM
https://twitter.com/ShannonRSingh/status/1588591603622772736 (https://twitter.com/ShannonRSingh/status/1588591603622772736)

No one questions why on gods green earth Twitter had a Human Rights team to deal with Ethiopia  :lol


"Help us we're starving"

*sips soy latte*

"Don't worry Abai we suspended Jordan Peterson's account"

https://twitter.com/JoanDeitchman/status/1588358419723227137 (https://twitter.com/JoanDeitchman/status/1588358419723227137)

The feeds of some of these Twitter people :wut
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 04, 2022, 05:43:14 PM
Why does Musky need advertiser money in order to have free speech?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 04, 2022, 05:46:30 PM
It's like thanos

https://mobile.twitter.com/RMac18/status/1588635498603753472
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 04, 2022, 05:48:50 PM
Why does Musky need advertiser money in order to have free speech?

 :umad
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 04, 2022, 05:57:38 PM
(https://i.redd.it/adv8jl968zx91.jpg)

 :tauntaun :tauntaun :tauntaun
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Polident Hive on November 04, 2022, 06:14:29 PM
If a childish employee can suspend major accounts without oversight, and it’s celebrated, can’t act surprised when a supreme man child like musk does it.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 04, 2022, 06:17:27 PM
This is the best thing that happened to Twitter since Trump.

Sign ups must be going through the roof right now.
It's like when a millionaire buys a lamborghini and crashes it the very same day but then in slow motion.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 04, 2022, 06:22:36 PM
If a childish employee can suspend major accounts without oversight, and it’s celebrated, can’t act surprised when a supreme man child like musk does it.

yeah this can lead to serious legal issues, like being in IT and deleting servers and locking your boss out of his account on the way out

unbanning musk can be swiftly undone, and restoring servers from backup can also be swiftly undone...doesn't mean there are no consequences
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 04, 2022, 06:35:50 PM
https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1588565313188417536 (https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1588565313188417536)

:elon

Nintex, you need to use real sources not tweets :karen

Well I went directly to the source of your sources :snob
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on November 04, 2022, 06:39:07 PM
(https://i.redd.it/adv8jl968zx91.jpg)

 :tauntaun :tauntaun :tauntaun
Clearly, Musk is only targeting the best Twatter employees for termination. The best.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 04, 2022, 07:00:03 PM
https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1588565313188417536 (https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1588565313188417536)

:elon

Nintex, you need to use real sources not tweets :karen

Well I went directly to the source of your sources :snob

"these people have lost their jobs, and this is what they're worried about"  :heart

oh they're so good hearted, more worried about that gosh darn misinformation than whether they can eat next week, bless them



as if any disgruntled fired employee isn't going to jump at the chance to add to the media firestorm desperately trying to get the world to stop using twitter
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 04, 2022, 07:11:41 PM
https://imgur.com/gallery/bf8lkQh

(https://i.imgur.com/nFv3IOe.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/PYxYxoG.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/1MMBCfo.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/bDCSoZO.jpg)

 :doge :doge :doge
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 04, 2022, 07:17:40 PM
https://imgur.com/gallery/bf8lkQh

(https://i.imgur.com/nFv3IOe.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/PYxYxoG.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/1MMBCfo.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/bDCSoZO.jpg)

 :doge :doge :doge

"I tweet everyday"fuck off Nazi at Musk and now they banned me, so unfair"  :derp
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on November 04, 2022, 07:17:55 PM
Whenever twitter sends me one of those ad-tweet surveys, ("do you remember seeing an ad about x") i always respond no

lick my balls corpo shitters  :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 04, 2022, 07:27:14 PM
Your Twitter feed depends on your follows if you see people saying the N-word or Nazi's all day it's on you, not Twitter.

I get a lot of 'current events' sure, but also an equal number of tweets with animals, memes, art, games, music and movies. :idont
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 04, 2022, 09:07:58 PM
https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1588565313188417536[/url]
Please don't post disinformation sources like Ben Collins on The Bire, thank you.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: headwalk on November 04, 2022, 09:48:26 PM
"using twitter as a trustworthy source of information on tuesday is going to be a nightmare"

i could make a joke here but i'm sure you've all already made the same one in your head.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 04, 2022, 09:54:30 PM
Personally, I choose to not believe every random tweet I see. The Other Ben, known liar and propagandist, seems to believe other people are not capable of this, only himself.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 04, 2022, 10:01:41 PM
Elon just needs to check his replies to see real shitposting:
https://twitter.com/3YearLetterman/status/1588539459326603265
https://twitter.com/3YearLetterman/status/1588542656183152642
https://twitter.com/3YearLetterman/status/1588542355426095105
https://twitter.com/APMC1985/status/1588702872136712193
https://twitter.com/aileysworld/status/1588572267038248960
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on November 04, 2022, 10:06:43 PM
I would bet my life that Letterman guy is you, Benji
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 04, 2022, 10:10:42 PM
"You think the Declaration of Independence is funny? I doubt your grandfather thought it was a laughing matter when he surrendered at Yorktown" is definitely a line I wish I had come up with.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on November 04, 2022, 10:45:41 PM
Whenever twitter sends me one of those ad-tweet surveys, ("do you remember seeing an ad about x") i always respond no

lick my balls corpo shitters  :lol
They still fed you the ad though
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 04, 2022, 11:20:52 PM
https://twitter.com/tobymorton/status/1588551962881978368

spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/dizzle1487/status/1588573937902161920
https://twitter.com/Ahtrau/status/1588555534382534656
https://twitter.com/DameSmartypants/status/1588553657733505025
https://twitter.com/WapiroBen/status/1588555309580095489
https://twitter.com/IslandGirlPRV/status/1588556730602258432
https://twitter.com/coherentranter/status/1588557518183477249
https://twitter.com/Lftfrmcntr/status/1588566729390977025
https://twitter.com/Brelwi1/status/1588565355550904321
https://twitter.com/rick_vldz/status/1588570308285718529
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Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 04, 2022, 11:36:23 PM
https://twitter.com/Pilot135pd/status/1588663098247811072
https://twitter.com/OtoeStrong/status/1588666421755904000
https://twitter.com/MissuDJM/status/1588664309114339329
https://twitter.com/Augustamay214/status/1588664780247556097

 :dead :dead :dead
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 05, 2022, 12:07:05 AM
Seems like Elons big plans didn't include an ad strategy

https://mobile.twitter.com/karaswisher/status/1588667162654564352
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 05, 2022, 05:27:24 AM
Meanwhile dogecoin is surging :thinking
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 05, 2022, 09:31:39 AM
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1588696157794242560.html

Quote
1/ There is some pretty substantial context about Twitter's 2023 revenue and advertisers that I think partly help explains why Musk is really losing it...

And it involves upfront ad sales. Let me explain...

2/ Back Twitter (like a lot of digital companies) participates in an event called new fronts. At this event, they sell large chunks of ads for the following year.

Typically, Twitter sells like ~600-900M in ads at new fronts. That's guaranteed revenue for following year.

3/ This year, they didn't sell much of anything.

A coalition called Stop The Deal spent time educating and using media buyers and big advertisers at the event to ask Twitter some basic questions about potential Musk takeover before giving him a guaranteed income for 2023.

4/ Media buyers did ask those questions. Twitter had zero answers or assurances, the presentation imploded and ended shockingly early. Twitter from what I understand basically sold almost nothing and locked in extremely little 2023 revenue.

5/ This means that instead of heading into 2023 with 15-20% of 2023 already secured as they typically would have, Twitter heads into next year with almost none of that. All because of Musk's red pilled edgelord approach.

6/ @elonmusk has had months to address these concerns or even learn about them. But instead, he's insisted on antagonizing the very businesses and people that sustain Twitter.

Back in May, the groups and companies weren't calling for a boycott, they were asking basic questions.

7/ My point here is: It's actually worse than that I think a lot of people even appreciate all because Musk's conduct and commitments to roll back brand safety and community safeguards essentially obliterated Twitter's new front sales event that woulda secured 2023 revenue.

something odd about this is that the timeline's off

musk offered to buy twitter on april 14, and twitter accepted on april 25 (https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/25/twitter-accepts-elon-musks-buyout-deal.html)

newfronts took place on may 4 (https://business.twitter.com/en/blog/twitter-newfronts-2022.html), so ad sales could've been affected by the pending deal at that time

but stop the deal didn't begin until june 3 (https://accountabletech.org/media/stop-the-deal-nonprofit-coalition-launches-campaign-against-elon-musks-twitter-takeover/), a month after newfronts took place, so how did it affect sales during newfronts

:idont
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Transhuman on November 05, 2022, 10:44:28 AM
Doesn't the amount of shit you're allowed to say about Elon Musk on Twitter sort of prove his point that he doesn't plan on censoring people?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on November 05, 2022, 10:45:14 AM
Is never Musk fault.  :awesome
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on November 05, 2022, 10:47:51 AM
Doesn't the amount of shit you're allowed to say about Elon Musk on Twitter sort of prove his point that he doesn't plan on censoring people?

Nah, he wants you to pay first.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1588750686006947840

I can trash him all day for free at the bore.

Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 05, 2022, 10:50:37 AM
Doesn't the amount of shit you're allowed to say about Elon Musk on Twitter sort of prove his point that he doesn't plan on censoring people?

granted, everyone falsely assumes everything must take place immediately like "hate speech is up because of elon  :o " even though all the same content moderation has remained in place...similarly if he was going to ban anyone there's no guarantee it would've happened instantly

let's get more than a week out from his takeover, he might actually censor these people once rule changes have been reviewed and are active
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 05, 2022, 11:40:43 AM
Elon is just trying to get ahead of the curve.
He probably already had nervous calls from governments and agencies the world over.
Just consider all the local police stations, city services, ministers and other public entities and services that have a verified Twitter account.

Should one libertarian autisty tech bro own the most important information platform with no government oversight and charge $8 for every verified account?  :iface
Should it be taken public again so China, Russian oligarchs or Trump can buy it? :shaking
Should the government take it out of his hands and cut out the middle man saving $8 on all those accounts for generations to come?  :money
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 05, 2022, 07:15:00 PM
Is never Musk fault.  :awesome
Or maybe we should be rational instead of being lunatics because we've decided to hate a dude.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 05, 2022, 07:58:26 PM
The recent blog post by Jack Dorsey could be interpreted as that the employee cut was a long time coming

Quote
In a statement posted on the microblogging site, Mr Dorsey - who quit as CEO in November and left the board of directors in May - said Twitter staff "are strong and resilient. They will always find a way no matter how difficult the moment. I realize [sic] many are angry with me. I own the responsibility for why everyone is in this situation: I grew the company size too quickly. I apologize [sic] for that."

"I am grateful for, and love, everyone who has ever worked on Twitter. I don't expect that to be mutual in this moment...or ever…and I understand," he added.

His statement appeared to endorse the need for dismissals at the firm. The 45-year-old Mr Dorsey has been supportive of Mr Musk's takeover.
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-63527893?xtor=AL-72-%5Bpartner%5D-%5Bbbc.news.twitter%5D-%5Bheadline%5D-%5Bnews%5D-%5Bbizdev%5D-%5Bisapi%5D&at_campaign=64&at_custom1=%5Bpost+type%5D&at_medium=custom7&at_custom3=%40BBCWorld&at_custom4=C64426B2-5D2F-11ED-962C-1AF44744363C&at_custom2=twitter

Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 05, 2022, 09:15:01 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fgz5kLVVIAAxbeY?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 05, 2022, 09:45:35 PM
Oh, the FCC, oh noz whatever will they zzzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 05, 2022, 10:09:37 PM
I love how all these people spent how long now yelling "it's a private platform they can do what they want" yet don't realize that if the government ran Twitter then the First Amendment would actually apply. Twitter's been amazing for showing how many people will just say things without caring at all about what they're saying. :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: MMaRsu on November 06, 2022, 02:49:18 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fg029qDVEAAvtaF?format=png&name=medium)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 06, 2022, 06:55:53 AM
So far Elon is making all the right moves with quick decision making.
He makes the big calls quick and efficient. Improvements come later based on community feedback.

Also 'anchor pricing' without the $20 'whale' option even being available but putting it in peoples minds.
Making the $8 version (always the intention) seemingly a better offer.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on November 06, 2022, 09:39:10 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fg029qDVEAAvtaF?format=png&name=medium)


(https://i.imgflip.com/6zq5pa.jpg)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 06, 2022, 11:38:05 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/CaseyNewton/status/1589075543420325888
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 06, 2022, 11:58:09 AM
:lol

Now... What kind of person would be willing to say yes to that?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 06, 2022, 12:06:11 PM
:lol

Now... What kind of person would be willing to say yes to that?

the kind of person being offered a raise to do so

but also the person who's got bills to pay and doesn't relish the thought of job hunting, and appreciates the familiarity of doing the same job they're well-versed in

as much as everyone says "oh they're all smart experienced people who will be snapped up immediately," there's also a lot of them, amidst a global shrinking/scaling back in tech (https://web.archive.org/web/20221101090339/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/26/technology/economy-facebook-google.html)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 06, 2022, 02:23:19 PM
Nintex : elon is making all the right quick moves

*10 minutes later *

https://mobile.twitter.com/CaseyNewton/status/1589075543420325888
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: jorma on November 06, 2022, 02:43:04 PM
:lol

Now... What kind of person would be willing to say yes to that?

i was laid off once, but i never took it personally since it was just an order from the parent org "get rid of so and so many people". pretty much the same scenario as the twitter thing

i just said "i don't accept that" and let the union sort it for me. no big deal. worked there for another 10 years  :elon

Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on November 06, 2022, 03:13:48 PM
:lol

Now... What kind of person would be willing to say yes to that?

i was laid off once, but i never took it personally since it was just an order from the parent org "get rid of so and so many people". pretty much the same scenario as the twitter thing

i just said "i don't accept that" and let the union sort it for me. no big deal. worked there for another 10 years  :elon

“Union”?

What kind of commie gobbledygook is that?  :kinison
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: jorma on November 06, 2022, 03:21:24 PM
:lol

Now... What kind of person would be willing to say yes to that?

i was laid off once, but i never took it personally since it was just an order from the parent org "get rid of so and so many people". pretty much the same scenario as the twitter thing

i just said "i don't accept that" and let the union sort it for me. no big deal. worked there for another 10 years  :elon

“Union”?

What kind of commie gobbledygook is that?  :kinison

the best kind   :-*
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 06, 2022, 04:53:41 PM
https://twitter.com/jephjacques/status/1588933764692185090
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 06, 2022, 05:05:03 PM
https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1589155796637876224
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 06, 2022, 06:16:10 PM
https://twitter.com/kathygriffin/status/1589339117279903744

https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1589128813673590784
https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1589130183768178689
https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1589344091288272898
https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1589127834005819392
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 06, 2022, 06:19:16 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fg1lvcpXEAAFvZo?format=jpg&name=small)

spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fg1YH_wVEAANbWX?format=jpg&name=small)
[close]
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 06, 2022, 06:27:00 PM
https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1589127834005819392

(https://i.imgur.com/s7PwAJo.jpg)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on November 06, 2022, 06:27:41 PM
See, this is what I'm talkin' about folks!  How are we going to function on Twitter when ANYONE can get a bluecheck?  Protecting the eminence of the fourth estate, and assigning a blue check to places like *checks notes*  The Counter Signal, and their star editor...*checks notes* Ke....*Checks notes again*  Keea.... *checks fuckin notes*  Kee..an Bex..te?  Bexte be speaking FACTS if you gon' get up in my grill.   FACT-SEEKERS and TRUTH-SEEKERS are the only people I want to verify, not just random nobodies.   Suck it hard, Elon!
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 06, 2022, 06:35:45 PM
https://twitter.com/kathygriffin/status/1589339117279903744
Been suspended since I posted this. :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 06, 2022, 06:39:49 PM
I am genuinely curious about how random people used to get blue checks

because from what I understand, it's been possible to pay or game your way into them for a long time now, which is evidenced by all the random nobodies who have them and cherish them

there must be forums or discords where people swap tips or give each other "ins" right?

was it as simple as paying for a bot farm and getting vouched for in some incestuous network like breadtube?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 06, 2022, 06:44:37 PM
You used to be able to get verified simply by sending in proof you were the person, this is how MovieBob got verified a long time ago for example. But then too many people were trying to get verified and Twitter couldn't handle the requests so they changed to the system we had where you had to be "notable" or they'd reject you. It was a pretty open secret that others could pull strings for you and in some cases even pay for this and other services. There's some evidence that you could pay thousands to get unbanned.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on November 06, 2022, 06:45:33 PM
I am genuinely curious about how random people used to get blue checks

because from what I understand, it's been possible to pay or game your way into them for a long time now, which is evidenced by all the random nobodies who have them and cherish them

there must be forums or discords where people swap tips or give each other "ins" right?

was it as simple as paying for a bot farm and getting vouched for in some incestuous network like breadtube?

No real idea.   I've seen people with 200 followers have them.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 06, 2022, 06:45:35 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589390597798125568

(https://i.imgflip.com/3ay4cs.jpg)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on November 06, 2022, 06:47:55 PM
I am genuinely curious about how random people used to get blue checks

because from what I understand, it's been possible to pay or game your way into them for a long time now, which is evidenced by all the random nobodies who have them and cherish them

there must be forums or discords where people swap tips or give each other "ins" right?

was it as simple as paying for a bot farm and getting vouched for in some incestuous network like breadtube?

You got them for being friends with some random asshole at Twitter  :yeshrug

There was not big secret. That is the same reason why sometimes the moderation were in ban sprees for x reason. Sometimes Twitter mod team were extremely proSJW but other times were proFreeSpeech (as understood by assholes that take advantage of it).

That’s why I’m not exactly sad that Musk fired half of the work force, but I doubt he cares beyond “need money fast” (also given rumors of rehiring assholes that actually knew what they were doing).
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 06, 2022, 06:48:25 PM
Idiots: I'M GOING TO DELIBERATELY VIOLATE LONG ESTABLISHED TWITTER RULES TO SOMEHOW SPITE ELON
*Idiots get banned*
Idiots: ELON IS SHUTTING DOWN MY FREE SPEECH ON BEHALF OF THE SAUDIS TO STEAL THE ELECTION
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on November 06, 2022, 06:52:11 PM
Idiots: I'M GOING TO DELIBERATELY VIOLATE LONG ESTABLISHED TWITTER RULES TO SOMEHOW SPITE ELON
*Idiots get banned*
Idiots: ELON IS SHUTTING DOWN MY FREE SPEECH ON BEHALF OF THE SAUDIS TO STEAL THE ELECTION


Elon: WHEREISMYMONEY :(
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 06, 2022, 06:56:51 PM
Elon: I want to change the rules.
Idiots: NOOOOO ENFORCE THE CURRENT RULES OR WE'LL LOSE DEMOCRACY
Elon: Okay. ($8.)
Idiots: NOT LIKE THAT HYPOCRITE :social
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on November 06, 2022, 07:01:24 PM
 :doge  :doge :doge

But it used to be free. And the service is still the same to declare it is better…

You guys are sounding like Musk fanboys day by day…
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 06, 2022, 07:07:29 PM
Apparently they were selling blue checks for $15k. Fitting bribing scheme for the communist larp they had going on.

Elon is cracking down on impersonation accounts
https://twitter.com/amlivemon/status/1589407460128866304 (https://twitter.com/amlivemon/status/1589407460128866304)

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589396236464898048 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589396236464898048)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on November 06, 2022, 07:13:20 PM
:doge  :doge :doge

But it used to be free. And the service is still the same to declare it is better…

You guys are sounding like Musk fanboys day by day…

Look on the bright side, it's not free anymore. 

They all have to pay for it!
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on November 06, 2022, 07:15:48 PM
Dude has a rocketship and car company, and he's wasting his time being a janny for 60-year old women shitposting on social media.   :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on November 06, 2022, 07:16:24 PM
:doge  :doge :doge

But it used to be free. And the service is still the same to declare it is better…

You guys are sounding like Musk fanboys day by day…

Look on the bright side, it's not free anymore. 

They all have to pay for it!

Then why act like is Elon master plan when is clear the guy is desperate for making buck fast? 
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 06, 2022, 07:17:31 PM
:doge  :doge :doge

But it used to be free. And the service is still the same to declare it is better…

You guys are sounding like Musk fanboys day by day…
Love you constantly calling us Musk fanboys just because we aren't hateful lunatics losing our shit because some dumb "elites" will have to openly pay for special services that will also be open to the masses.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on November 06, 2022, 07:23:26 PM
:doge  :doge :doge

But it used to be free. And the service is still the same to declare it is better…

You guys are sounding like Musk fanboys day by day…

Look on the bright side, it's not free anymore. 

They all have to pay for it!

Then why act like is Elon master plan when is clear the guy is desperate for making buck fast?

I didn't say it was some master plan - I said it was a good idea in a previous post.  Maybe it's a bad idea from a business perspective or maybe it's a good idea, but from a Propagandhim looking at the world perspective, it's good because it forces people to confront their actions.  It's also super fucking funny.    It's funny that they all have to pay to continue their addiction to this website, and I'm watching them shitpost and screech about it in realtime, on the platform they're railing against!  It's funny that they dedicated so much of their time and energy to incorporating this website into their life, and entrusting it with some special value to democracy and freedom, when a fuckin rich guy they hate just bought it up.       Why can't you just laugh at funny shit?  Why are you taking this so seriously.  Who cares about what anyone thinks about Elon Musk. 

Also, paying for a service is not outrageous.   I can't read the WSJ without paying $40 a month, and these manchildren live, market themselves, and entertain themselves on that website.  Some of these people tweet like hundreds of times a day.  They're acting like toddlers.  Fuck all of them.   :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on November 06, 2022, 07:27:28 PM
:doge  :doge :doge 

But it used to be free. And the service is still the same to declare it is better…

You guys are sounding like Musk fanboys day by day…
Love you constantly calling us Musk fanboys just because we aren't hateful lunatics losing our shit because some dumb "elites" will have to openly pay for special services that will also be open to the masses.

:doge

But I have expressed that I don’t care about people paying or not (he’ll, I even agreed that must internet nobodies are the ones more affected by this), just that it is not going to be successful and that could backfire spectacularly.

And, newflash, Elon is part of the world elite. A dumb one also.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 06, 2022, 07:29:18 PM
But I have expressed that I don’t care about people paying or not (he’ll, I even agreed that must internet nobodies are the ones more affected by this), just that it is not going to be successful and that could backfire spectacularly.
Yet you're crying about us being "Elon fanboys" because we don't think it's the end of the world and think it's funny that morons are losing their minds.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on November 06, 2022, 07:30:00 PM
Quote
Who cares about what anyone thinks about Elon Musk. 

But you guys seem to care.

It gives me Trump PreElection flashbacks.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on November 06, 2022, 07:31:16 PM
No, I don't care about Elon Musk. 
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on November 06, 2022, 07:32:12 PM
But I have expressed that I don’t care about people paying or not (he’ll, I even agreed that must internet nobodies are the ones more affected by this), just that it is not going to be successful and that could backfire spectacularly.
Yet you're crying about us being "Elon fanboys" because we don't think it's the end of the world and think it's funny that morons are losing their minds.

Did I say it was the end of the world, Benji?

 :lol

I just dunno if I can call another assholes morons when the big moron is Elon himself. :yeshrug
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 06, 2022, 07:32:30 PM
How is laughing at morons caring about Elon Musk? ???

Did I say it was the end of the world, Benji?
Did I say you said it? ???
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on November 06, 2022, 07:36:43 PM
How is laughing at morons caring about Elon Musk? ???

Because the biggest moron has been Musk.  :elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 06, 2022, 07:37:22 PM
This whole thing is just a hilarious carnival of stupid

Musk running twitter with the grace of a wrecking ball, Blue checkmark people losing their minds predicting the end of the world, Idiots breaking the rules and then crying that they get banned... It's like everyone has brainworms
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 06, 2022, 07:37:31 PM
I just dunno if I can call another assholes morons when the big moron is Elon himself. :yeshrug
Because the biggest moron has been Musk.  :elon
This does not make any sense at all.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on November 06, 2022, 07:39:27 PM
I just dunno if I can call another assholes morons when the big moron is Elon himself. :yeshrug
Because the biggest moron has been Musk.  :elon
This does not make any sense at all.

 ::)

Then don’t get mad for being called a fanboy. :elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 06, 2022, 07:44:50 PM
So it's being a fanboy to notice people being incredibly stupid because someone else is also stupid? Okay, you have fun with that fanboy of incredibly stupid people.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 06, 2022, 07:47:28 PM
Dude has a rocketship and car company, and he's wasting his time being a janny for 60-year old women shitposting on social media.   :lol

Hes got the same thin skin as Evilore

spoiler (click to show/hide)
But his IQ is indeed 50 points higher
[close]
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on November 06, 2022, 07:50:05 PM
So it's being a fanboy to notice people being incredibly stupid because someone else is also stupid? Okay, you have fun with that fanboy of incredibly stupid people.


Nah, nah, nah, Benji. I already know how you discuss.

Yes, I didn’t express that in the first post of that you quoted, my bad. I thought it was understood because I also mocked those morons.

You know what I mean Benji, mr benefit of the doubt.  ;)

Let’s leave at that because we reached the impasse. :yeshrug

Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 06, 2022, 07:50:28 PM
Hes got the same thin skin as Evilore

spoiler (click to show/hide)
But his IQ is indeed 50 points higher
[close]
I think Musk could probably take him in a fight too, despite Lore's thousands of fights worth of experience.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on November 06, 2022, 07:52:23 PM
(https://imgur.com/Wre4q0e.jpg)

Nah, Evilore thinks small
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 06, 2022, 08:03:55 PM
benji you've let the mask slip a few times now, you're pro-Musk, we all know it. Come out of the closet of neutrality already.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 06, 2022, 08:07:53 PM
benji you've let the mask slip a few times now, you're pro-Musk, we all know it. Come out of the closet of neutrality already.
What can I say? I've been with a number of African Americans (including first "real" girlfriend) before. :trumps
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 06, 2022, 08:16:28 PM
Things are going well over on Mastodon for the most prominent tech columnist in the media:
(https://i.imgur.com/742wQGg.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/dXFU9ux.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZGazSO8.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/6CHCzlR.png)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 06, 2022, 08:21:24 PM
benji you've let the mask slip a few times now, you're pro-Musk, we all know it. Come out of the closet of neutrality already.
What can I say? I've been with a number of African Americans (including first "real" girlfriend) before. :trumps

I did a double take, my first interpretation of this was that it was quite racistly using the dictionary definition of musk  :doge
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 06, 2022, 08:24:23 PM
visible clouds of funk lingering in the air



wait
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on November 06, 2022, 08:33:28 PM
benji you've let the mask slip a few times now, you're pro-Musk, we all know it. Come out of the closet of neutrality already.
What can I say? I've been with a number of African Americans (including first "real" girlfriend) before. :trumps

:wut
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 06, 2022, 08:34:04 PM
I am not pro-musk in that regard, no.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 06, 2022, 08:34:39 PM
benji you've let the mask slip a few times now, you're pro-Musk, we all know it. Come out of the closet of neutrality already.
What can I say? I've been with a number of African Americans (including first "real" girlfriend) before. :trumps

Mmm we should talk more often. :)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 06, 2022, 08:36:37 PM
gonna be hard to talk with free speech costing $8
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 06, 2022, 08:43:40 PM
Can we charge $8 per post in the US Politics thread?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 06, 2022, 08:47:58 PM
OH YEAH THIS IS THE STUFF
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/BriannaWu/status/1588183863708291073
https://twitter.com/BriannaWu/status/1588185649257058304
https://twitter.com/BriannaWu/status/1588503581258579968
https://twitter.com/BriannaWu/status/1588694613485039617
https://twitter.com/BriannaWu/status/1589244853162250242
https://twitter.com/BriannaWu/status/1589256717615124487
https://twitter.com/BriannaWu/status/1589264316733489153
https://twitter.com/BriannaWu/status/1589264324740403201
https://twitter.com/BriannaWu/status/1589264328221675520
https://twitter.com/BriannaWu/status/1589264332239425537
https://twitter.com/BriannaWu/status/1589396975996502019
https://twitter.com/BriannaWu/status/1589400098177691650
[close]

 :mouf :mouf :mouf :mouf
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 06, 2022, 08:50:42 PM
Can we charge $8 per post in the US Politics thread?

We can charge just benji, Nintex and Himu. One month would easily cover the webhosting costs of this site for over 100 years.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 06, 2022, 08:51:43 PM
oh my god reading tweet 1 followed by tweet 2

:dead

imagine if trump or aoc tweeted that
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 06, 2022, 08:53:45 PM
We can charge just benji, Nintex and Himu. One month would easily cover the webhosting costs of this site for over 100 years.
Jokes on you, I'm a cheapskate. :snob
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 06, 2022, 08:54:03 PM
Just gonna say it, people who chase world-records are some of the saddest sad sacks I can only barely comprehend. Especially non-athletic records.

Human excellence should be celebrated. Speedrunning as a career should be lightly mocked.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 06, 2022, 08:55:11 PM
We can charge just benji, Nintex and Himu. One month would easily cover the webhosting costs of this site for over 100 years.
Jokes on you, I'm a cheapskate. :snob

It's a good thing Lore's not running the site. (RIP fistful's GAF account.)

Actually, that's good for a lot of reasons.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on November 06, 2022, 08:59:31 PM
Quote
I'm going to spend my social media energy towards more productive things, starting with doing more Speedrunning on Twitch.


newsfeed
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 06, 2022, 09:02:52 PM
Just gonna say it, people who chase world-records are some of the saddest sad sacks I can only barely comprehend. Especially non-athletic records.

Human excellence should be celebrated. Speedrunning as a career should be lightly mocked.

I appreciate this measured opinion
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 06, 2022, 09:06:46 PM
Just gonna say it, people who chase world-records are some of the saddest sad sacks I can only barely comprehend. Especially non-athletic records.

Human excellence should be celebrated. Speedrunning as a career should be lightly mocked.
Honestly, we may need to shut down speedrunning until we can figure out what's going on.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 06, 2022, 09:19:01 PM
Just gonna say it, people who chase world-records are some of the saddest sad sacks I can only barely comprehend. Especially non-athletic records.

Human excellence should be celebrated. Speedrunning as a career should be lightly mocked.
Honestly, we may need to shut down speedrunning until we can figure out what's going on.

If it's legitimate speedrunning, society has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 06, 2022, 09:49:57 PM
Just gonna say it, people who chase world-records are some of the saddest sad sacks I can only barely comprehend. Especially non-athletic records.

Human excellence should be celebrated. Speedrunning as a career should be lightly mocked.
Honestly, we may need to shut down speedrunning until we can figure out what's going on.

If it's legitimate speedrunning, society has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.

Counterpoint: Dream is still popular
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 06, 2022, 09:55:39 PM
Things are escalating on Mastodon:
(https://i.imgur.com/v6roH8c.png)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on November 06, 2022, 10:03:53 PM
Good to see this whole thing is working out well for all involved. Couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of idiots.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 06, 2022, 10:04:28 PM
Still going:
https://twitter.com/BriannaWu/status/1589437906762240005
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on November 06, 2022, 10:10:52 PM
Is Elno the new Drumpf?  :kobeyuck
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 06, 2022, 10:11:23 PM
Is Elno the new Drumpf?  :kobeyuck
https://twitter.com/benrains/status/1589443905959100417

The other day they were all calling him Elmo for some reason but at some point somebody recognized that if you keep the n it says NO.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on November 06, 2022, 10:12:09 PM
:existential :yuck
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 06, 2022, 10:15:00 PM
I'm just glad to see all the anti-harassment stars of Twitter come together to bully hold accountable an autistic man for buying their shitposting forum.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 06, 2022, 11:16:17 PM
Fair and balanced, a conservative whining about Mastodon:
(https://i.imgur.com/Sx91ITk.png)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 06, 2022, 11:21:55 PM
I'm pretty sure Evilore posted the exact same thing

https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589413167775756288
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 07, 2022, 12:24:09 AM
https://twitter.com/CasuallyGreg/status/1589444749815353345
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on November 07, 2022, 02:55:42 AM
https://twitter.com/CasuallyGreg/status/1589444749815353345

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589390597798125568


STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SCUM! YOU'VE VIOLATED THE TOS!
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 07, 2022, 08:59:48 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/ljJ6KxN.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/by4JNKm.png)

 :trigger
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 07, 2022, 09:57:21 AM
He is so profoundly stupid

https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589613451839942657
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 07, 2022, 10:20:09 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/ljJ6KxN.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/by4JNKm.png)

 :trigger

""""""""""comedy"""""""""""
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on November 07, 2022, 11:14:06 AM
https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1589551871013711872

 :salute



"He promised comedy would be back! He lied!"

What are you going to do about it, Eric?   You won't leave.  Toe the line, bitch-boy. 
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on November 07, 2022, 11:30:41 AM
"YOU CAN'T GET RID OF MY FREE BLUETICK, IT WILL JUST MEAN PEOPLE IMPERSONATING OTHER PEOPLE WILL RUN RAMPANT AND YOU WILL DO NOTHING ABOUT IT!"
"WTF WHY DID YOU BAN PEOPLE FOR IMPERSONATING SOMEONE?"
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Himu on November 07, 2022, 11:49:05 AM
What still amuses me the most is the 180 from "Twitter is a private company, they can do what they want" after Trump got banned to "Twitter is too important to be in the hand of a private individual" after Musk bought it

Liberals are hypocrites?! Say it ain't so
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: bork on November 07, 2022, 12:41:16 PM
(https://www.kxan.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2020/11/space-karen.jpg)
I love this picture. 
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 07, 2022, 12:51:45 PM
Musk: Vote R

Tesla stock:
198.71 USD −8.76 (4.22%)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 07, 2022, 12:52:48 PM
why did you just sell and not buy puts
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 07, 2022, 12:54:20 PM
why did you just sell and not buy puts

My risk tolerance is a little lower right now. Too busy with work to spend all day on WSB mining for good strategies.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 07, 2022, 01:00:48 PM
https://twitter.com/thejakebug/status/1589641137060728833
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 07, 2022, 01:01:54 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589631946644414467 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589631946644414467)

https://twitter.com/PopCrave/status/1589462393167712256 (https://twitter.com/PopCrave/status/1589462393167712256)

:elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 07, 2022, 01:36:52 PM
Elon apparently unblocked himself from user accounts he now shows up as 'muted' instead  :lol

Whoopi left Twitter

https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1589674671959588864 (https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1589674671959588864)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on November 07, 2022, 01:57:46 PM
No need to announce your departure Whoopie, you're not a train, just fucking leave.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Himu on November 07, 2022, 02:22:57 PM
:lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: bork on November 07, 2022, 02:47:31 PM
No need to announce your departure Whoopie, you're not a train, just fucking leave.

I left Twitter

spoiler (click to show/hide)
A couple of minutes ago when I closed the tab

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I'll be back to check it again soon
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Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 07, 2022, 02:52:51 PM
all the right people are making complete arses out of themselves :phil
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on November 07, 2022, 03:30:35 PM
I'm seeing something of a loose campaign among left leaning media to drive a narrative that "people are leaving Twitter for Mastodon". Fucking delusional idiots. They're the reason Twitter is a hell hole and now they're trying to rewrite history.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 07, 2022, 03:42:56 PM
thing is, you can't change reality by just saying so

twitter has what 400 million users?  mastodon has 1 million

if you enjoyed ratioing people and dunking on others with goofs and jocularity, your engagement will be magnitudes less

if you post your art and try to get commissions and patreon subs, sure make a mastodon account but I'd continue maintaining that twitter presence

governments and brands will not flee to mastodon so all the tweets from these kinds of accounts will continue to be screenshotted and shared all over, so you'll continue to see a lot of twitter for the foreseeable future...you just won't be able to comment on it if you're not there
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 07, 2022, 03:58:59 PM
if you enjoyed ratioing people and dunking on others with goofs and jocularity, your engagement will be magnitudes less

This is abhorrent behavior that should be excised from humanity.

Like Pinocchio smoking a cigar, people are just too childish and stupid to realize it's actually bad for them.

If humans still exist in 50 years, this will be seen as humanity's most childish era.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on November 07, 2022, 04:03:53 PM
if you enjoyed ratioing people and dunking on others with goofs and jocularity, your engagement will be magnitudes less

This is abhorrent behavior that should be excised from humanity.

Like Pinocchio smoking a cigar, people are just too childish and stupid to realize it's actually bad for them.

If humans still exist in 50 years, this will be seen as humanity's most childish era.
Dunno man, I think I'd rather have Twatter idiots than the Spanish inquisition, but it's a close call.
 ;)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 07, 2022, 04:20:17 PM
if you enjoyed ratioing people and dunking on others with goofs and jocularity, your engagement will be magnitudes less

This is abhorrent behavior that should be excised from humanity.

Like Pinocchio smoking a cigar, people are just too childish and stupid to realize it's actually bad for them.

If humans still exist in 50 years, this will be seen as humanity's most childish era.

I just want to know if gepetto or the blue fairy was responsible for giving him something approximating lungs, otherwise there'd be no place inside his body to inhale and store the smoke before exhaling
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 07, 2022, 04:56:44 PM
Gepetto argument: he needed Pinoch to be able to suck things into his mouth

Blue Fairy argument: she's depicted as a god using mortals as playthings and thus did it for her own amusement
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 07, 2022, 05:51:21 PM
FYI:

among the various options for twitter replacements, a few names keep coming up: mastodon, the broader fediverse in general, cohost

if you search for cohost on twitter you'll find a lot of people talking about migrating to it (https://twitter.com/search?q=cohost&src=typed_query)

https://twitter.com/jattazo/status/1589050672322052096

https://twitter.com/pmcTRILOGY/status/1589652297969278978

etc.

it has three comfy developers who are really responsive to what the community wants, a dedicated field in the bio for your pronouns, lots of great settings and tagging, easy to make fun posts

b-but the best thing about cohost...is, uh...

 :donot

it's small and underdeveloped enough that shota / loli fans are working on getting a foothold on the site...

 :crazy

(https://i.imgur.com/tlTmS8t.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/P4ettoc.png)

and the site's admins are receptive, they're not willing to close the door on underage content on their twitter-replacement, they want to provide whatever the community wants

https://cohost.org/staff/post/124903-community-guidelines

Quote
we’ve added clarifications to the section regarding child sexual exploitation material, and how it pertains to non-realistic depictions of minors, in an attempt to provide clarity and consistency for enforcement.

internally, we had been drawing the line at the prevailing legal definition of “realistic depictions,” which includes photographs/videos of actual human minors, or content difficult to distinguish from actual photographs/videos.

policy around non-realistic depictions, such as lolicon/shotacon, has not yet been finalized. we don’t want to implement a policy that the majority of users would feel uncomfortable with. we are currently working to implement a system to allow us to get user input on this area of policy. until such time, please refrain from posting it; up to this point, we have been asking people posting it to remove it pending a final policy decision.

some of their genius ideas include allowing it but geoblocking it from countries where it's illegal, or allowing it but they have this nifty tag muting system so all you have to do is mute "loli" and you'll never see it! problem solved

a lot of people were not happy with the idea that there was even the possibility of allowing this content, so much arguing ensued until they locked the thread:

Quote
EDIT 10/7/22, 8:21am PDT:

In an attempt to reduce the amount of unconstructive nastiness and name calling in this comment thread, we are going to be removing comments (both "on our side" and not) that detract from actual conversation.


so when you see people talking about heading over to cohost, now you've got an idea of the direction the site is heading  :doge
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 07, 2022, 05:53:25 PM
:iface
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on November 07, 2022, 05:54:53 PM
So that’s why rees were trying to make cohost a thing :kermit
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 07, 2022, 06:10:52 PM
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1589732098591821824 (https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1589732098591821824)

Thanks for the free advertising :elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 07, 2022, 06:22:13 PM
that's just because a bunch of the people leaving aren't closing their accounts, they're just never logging in again!!
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 07, 2022, 06:50:08 PM
People desperately leaving twitter while the only real policy enforcement so far has been to not allow impersonating someone else  :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 07, 2022, 06:57:07 PM
People desperately leaving twitter while the only real policy enforcement so far has been to not allow impersonating someone else  :lol

Kathy Griffin was banned! KATHY GRIFFIN!!!!!

(https://y.yarn.co/ebecfec6-b710-41c8-91ce-1a88e839d8e5_text.gif)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 07, 2022, 07:17:23 PM
People desperately leaving twitter while the only real policy enforcement so far has been to not allow impersonating someone else  :lol
It's all like that Whoopi clip above, they "feel" it's not good anymore, they "feel" the wrong people are back, they "feel" the whole vibe is ruined, Elon is messing with their follows, Elon is sending trolls to their replies, Elon is stopping their tweets from trending, Elon is desperately searching for his name to find all the criticism of him so he can silence it, etc. They want to DO SOMETHING about the horrific injustice of rich people owning their favorite website but all they can do is not post so they have to come up with a bunch of justifications for why this is somehow principled to do so they can be praised for it. And this requires them inventing hypothetical things that are supposed to have changed since Friday since all the actual good reasons to not post on Twitter are unchanged from the last few years these people have all been obsessively devoted to it.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 07, 2022, 07:23:28 PM
The most fucked up thing about the Kathy Griffin story is her logging into the account of her dead mother to get around the ban and then posting: "She wouldn't mind me using her account".


https://twitter.com/stevekrenzel/status/1589700724304535552 (https://twitter.com/stevekrenzel/status/1589700724304535552)

Trump saved Twitter :trumps
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 07, 2022, 07:38:43 PM
that's actually an interesting thread, starting here:

https://twitter.com/stevekrenzel/status/1589700721121058817

the tl;dr is that a big company demanded that the twitter app track when users walked into its competitors' stores, eventually reaching a point of wanting to know every detail of when everyone left home, went to work, went to startbucks etc

the only reason this didn't happen is apparently this twitter protagonist with integrity, the Last Capable Engineer who went directly to jack dorsey and got him to shut down the project

also be very afraid that elon will not be so nice :omg
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 07, 2022, 07:42:40 PM
Trump saved Twitter :trumps

(https://y.yarn.co/49b1d49d-09bb-4a76-b97c-2244b1e5ce75_text.gif)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on November 07, 2022, 07:46:26 PM
that's actually an interesting thread, starting here:

https://twitter.com/stevekrenzel/status/1589700721121058817

the tl;dr is that a big company demanded that the twitter app track when users walked into its competitors' stores, eventually reaching a point of wanting to know every detail of when everyone left home, went to work, went to startbucks etc

the only reason this didn't happen is apparently this twitter protagonist with integrity, the Last Capable Engineer who went directly to jack dorsey and got him to shut down the project

also be very afraid that elon will not be so nice :omg

The True Last Capable Ethical Engineer waits 7 years to publicize this information because....MUSK..and what he might, likely, maybe , probably do, instead of what his superiors asked of him that he kept a secret for nearly a decade. 
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 07, 2022, 07:52:30 PM
well, I don't disbelieve it

I also absolutely hate apps and just use the websites whenever possible, often have to choose to view in desktop mode to get them to work right because the mobile pages beg and plead and demand you use the app

:rage
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 07, 2022, 07:53:24 PM
Knowing what I know, it seems reasonably realistic to me.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 07, 2022, 07:55:57 PM
They often track things for no reason and the data is hardly put to use.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on November 07, 2022, 07:56:05 PM
Oh, it's absolutely true.  Which is why he should have said something earlier.  But Elon's no impersonation policy is so draconian that it shook him into having a conscience. 
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 07, 2022, 08:01:46 PM
Criticizing whistleblowers for their timing is poor form and could lead to chilling effects imo. We don't know what's been going on in their lives or the decisions they've made. It's hard to make such serious moral judgments without much if any context.

Better to know than to not.

That said, sometimes justice delayed is no justice at all. But I don't think his story coming out earlier would have changed anything whatsoever.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on November 07, 2022, 08:02:49 PM
Criticizing whistleblowers for their timing is poor form and could lead to chilling effects imo. We don't know what's been going on in their lives or the decisions they've made. It's hard to make such serious moral judgments without much if any context.

Better to know than to not.

Democracy is at stake.  This is TWITTER!
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 07, 2022, 08:03:24 PM
kathy griffin is at stake  :-*
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 07, 2022, 08:14:17 PM
kathy griffin is at stake  :-*

Not yet.

(https://static.nationalgeographic.co.uk/files/styles/image_3200/public/13-consumed-by-fire.jpg?w=1900&h=1090)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 07, 2022, 08:19:00 PM
:whoo
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on November 07, 2022, 08:28:45 PM
https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1589645384082952193

 https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1397282591745744900

(https://www.nydailynews.com/resizer/F97JAMSctt_XurDEHqT3PCrHZgs=/768x0/filters:format(jpg):quality(70)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/tronc/XWXF7SWMQBE2TAQNVAU5EQ4RE4.jpg)

 :comeon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 07, 2022, 08:41:18 PM
https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1589645384082952193

(https://i.imgur.com/EVxenpP.png)

:fbm
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: bork on November 07, 2022, 08:45:53 PM
if you enjoyed ratioing people and dunking on others with goofs and jocularity, your engagement will be magnitudes less

This is abhorrent behavior that should be excised from humanity.

Like Pinocchio smoking a cigar, people are just too childish and stupid to realize it's actually bad for them.

If humans still exist in 50 years, this will be seen as humanity's most childish era.
Dunno man, I think I'd rather have Twatter idiots than the Spanish inquisition, but it's a close call.
 ;)

spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKQ_sQKBASM
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Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 07, 2022, 09:08:07 PM
https://twitter.com/BadLegalTakes/status/1589642217798656001
https://twitter.com/BadLegalTakes/status/1589773698340655104
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 07, 2022, 09:11:24 PM
https://twitter.com/CaseyNewton/status/1589796702843998208

 :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 07, 2022, 09:16:48 PM
the only reason this didn't happen is apparently this twitter protagonist with integrity, the Last Capable Engineer who went directly to jack dorsey and got him to shut down the project

also be very afraid that elon will not be so nice :omg

Other apps do that.

https://themarkup.org/privacy/2021/09/30/theres-a-multibillion-dollar-market-for-your-phones-location-data


Even governments buy the data for traffic analysis

"It begins with Big Data

Every month, we ingest, index and process vast amounts of location data from connected devices and the Internet of Things, then add context from numerous other sources like parcel data and digital road network data – to develop a view into North America’s vast network of roads, bike lanes and sidewalks."

aka they track ur phone

https://www.streetlightdata.com/bike-pedestrian-traffic-analytics
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 07, 2022, 09:17:10 PM
That would be so fucking awesome.

NO MORE TWEET EMBEDS :rejoice
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 07, 2022, 09:22:48 PM
I also absolutely hate apps and just use the websites whenever possible, often have to choose to view in desktop mode to get them to work right because the mobile pages beg and plead and demand you use the app
I have the Twitter app on my phone because at one point the videos weren't playing in Chrome but did in the app. But I've never used it otherwise. (I don't actually "go on Twitter" on my phone but for like embedded Bire video or something.) I go to the website for Twitter. But wait, there's more. I basically don't follow anyone but people I know and a few legacy follows from like 2009 or so. I literally go to the url for the account I want to look at. Like BadLegalTakes above, I don't follow it I just type t and "twitter.com" comes up and and I put "badlegaltakes" (or pick one of the suggestions) and then go to the page and look at it.

I actually understand why some Blue Checks are so mad about the $8 thing. Blue Checks get special views of their feed unlike everyone else. You look at some of the Blue Checks, they're following thousands upon thousand of accounts. Just look at like MovieBob's follows and it'd be impossible to actually read the normal feed, he follows every comic movie person, a bunch of comic movie "news" accounts, a bunch of porn, brands like McDonalds and Pepsi, all kinds of idiots who tweet 50 tweet long threads multiple times a day, horrible politics accounts, etc. His feed would be full of shit constantly and it seems impossible for a human to actually see everything new on it. And that's for a guy who actually spends his entire life on Twitter from waking up to passing out.

If I go on Twitter once or even a couple times a day I want to see what's "new" from that specific account whose page I'm going to, it actually took me a while a few years ago to realize this (and the more normal just checking on your own follows once to see what's new) was not how everyone else was using Twitter. For them getting fed an unending deluge of shit to get mad about NOW NOW NOW is the prime feature of Twitter. Many of the replacements being mentioned don't do this as well (or at all) as Twitter does.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 07, 2022, 09:26:54 PM
Quote
The company rolled out a new version of the app on Saturday with release notes that said the new Blue was now available. (The copy, written by Calacanis, was widely derided for sounding like a phishing email.) The problem is that Blue was not available, and so those who did subscribe found that they had merely gotten access to the current version of Blue.

Then, after a debate about the potential effects of unleashing thousands of new verified accounts onto the platforms in the middle of the US midterm elections, the company postponed the launch.

But the new Blue likely faces larger problems. The existing version only had a little more than 100,000 active subscribers, Platformer has learned. The new version will be 37.5 percent more expensive, and its value seems murky for most regular users of the platform. It’s unclear how the company will persuade enough people to subscribe to justify the effort.

Twitter employees tried to sell Musk and Sacks on the idea of asking business accounts to pay for extra features, since many of them use Twitter to reach large audiences. But they were dismissed in favor of offering wide-scale verification first, I’m told.

Other employees have warned about a secondary feature of the new Blue that Musk added at the last minute: reducing ad load in the Twitter app by half. Estimates showed that Twitter will lose about $6 in ad revenue per user in the United States by making that change, sources said. Factoring in Apple and Google’s share of the $8 monthly subscription, Twitter would likely lose money on Blue if the ad-light plan is enacted.

"The business fundamentals are just not there,” said one former employee who worked on the plans.

https://www.platformer.news/p/musk-discusses-putting-all-of-twitter

Absolutely zero planning went into this

 :tauntaun :tauntaun :tauntaun
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 07, 2022, 09:31:35 PM
The ideal state is not installing native third-party apps and using web apps to do everything.

My trust in apps/SaaS co's/etc. is impossible to come by these days.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 07, 2022, 09:33:55 PM
Quote
Twitter employees tried to sell Musk and Sacks on the idea of asking business accounts to pay for extra features, since many of them use Twitter to reach large audiences. But they were dismissed in favor of offering wide-scale verification first, I’m told.

https://www.platformer.news/p/musk-discusses-putting-all-of-twitter
This was actually one of the things I figured but was surprised so many suddenly declared experts weren't talking about. This makes some sense, why give companies the ability to just pay $8 a month when you can strike specific deals with them? I'm not sure this isn't the "best" way to do it for organizations because you could let charities and advocacy organizations in for free and then negotiate with businesses. (I would include the Republican and Democratic Parties in the latter. :teehee)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 07, 2022, 09:45:00 PM
Quote
Twitter employees tried to sell Musk and Sacks on the idea of asking business accounts to pay for extra features, since many of them use Twitter to reach large audiences. But they were dismissed in favor of offering wide-scale verification first, I’m told.

https://www.platformer.news/p/musk-discusses-putting-all-of-twitter
This was actually one of the things I figured but was surprised so many suddenly declared experts weren't talking about. This makes some sense, why give companies the ability to just pay $8 a month when you can strike specific deals with them? I'm not sure this isn't the "best" way to do it for organizations because you could let charities and advocacy organizations in for free and then negotiate with businesses. (I would include the Republican and Democratic Parties in the latter. :teehee)

They could go the constant contact/mailchimp route and charge by number of subscribers/followers.

That being said it doesnt work for individuals. Individual "content creators" spend all day tweeting and dont get revenue, which doesnt make sense. IE, Nate Silver is an imbecile, but he certainly generates traffic for Twitter. Charging him means he moves to another platform. Giving him an ad cut (like youtube, tiktok etc) means he is encouraged to post even more content on Twitter.

So how do you draw the line between content creator that gets a cut, and corporate account that has to pay?

For something like Toyota, thats obvious, but what about the NYT?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 07, 2022, 09:55:54 PM
I figured the NYT was already paying for various things since some of their links embed differently.

It would be funny though if like the NYT paid some big amount to Twitter for whatever and then users could post "fact checks" on all their tweets. Would they delete them like the White House did? Demand this not be allowed as part of their deal?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: bork on November 07, 2022, 10:34:58 PM
https://twitter.com/CaseyNewton/status/1589796702843998208

 :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf

https://twitter.com/ow/status/1589817613487837186
https://twitter.com/KrisSiegel/status/1589818597404475393

 :elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 07, 2022, 11:26:05 PM
Semi-correct:
https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1589675373696278528
https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1589677969936904193

Incorrect:
https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1589431275492093953
https://twitter.com/BillHuntKS/status/1589787789247537152
https://twitter.com/drgonzojohnson/status/1589825834919276544
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 08, 2022, 12:20:33 AM
Quote
The company rolled out a new version of the app on Saturday with release notes that said the new Blue was now available. (The copy, written by Calacanis, was widely derided for sounding like a phishing email.) The problem is that Blue was not available, and so those who did subscribe found that they had merely gotten access to the current version of Blue.

Then, after a debate about the potential effects of unleashing thousands of new verified accounts onto the platforms in the middle of the US midterm elections, the company postponed the launch.

But the new Blue likely faces larger problems. The existing version only had a little more than 100,000 active subscribers, Platformer has learned. The new version will be 37.5 percent more expensive, and its value seems murky for most regular users of the platform. It’s unclear how the company will persuade enough people to subscribe to justify the effort.

Twitter employees tried to sell Musk and Sacks on the idea of asking business accounts to pay for extra features, since many of them use Twitter to reach large audiences. But they were dismissed in favor of offering wide-scale verification first, I’m told.

Other employees have warned about a secondary feature of the new Blue that Musk added at the last minute: reducing ad load in the Twitter app by half. Estimates showed that Twitter will lose about $6 in ad revenue per user in the United States by making that change, sources said. Factoring in Apple and Google’s share of the $8 monthly subscription, Twitter would likely lose money on Blue if the ad-light plan is enacted.

"The business fundamentals are just not there,” said one former employee who worked on the plans.

https://www.platformer.news/p/musk-discusses-putting-all-of-twitter

Absolutely zero planning went into this

 :tauntaun :tauntaun :tauntaun

Amazing level of ineptitude.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 08, 2022, 12:53:24 AM
Here are two articles about Mastodon you should read if you would like to understand what it is.
It's really quite amazing what was achieved considering how little manpower and money they have.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mastodon-twitter-alternative_n_63689d46e4b0eb51ab1180bc
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/topstories/mastodon-what-is-the-social-network-hailed-as-a-twitter-alternative/ar-AA13QljF

The idea behind it is great, a global communication utility not owned by a single individual or corporation.

Quote
Fast growth has led to overload and server glitches. Seeing economist Paul Krugman struggling to get his Mastodon account running, Musk on Monday mocked the upstart network.

"If you don't like Twitter any more there is awesome site called Masterbatedone," he wrote in a swiftly deleted tweet
above a screenshot of Krugman's misfired toots.

Rochko, whose Mastodon foundation runs on a shoestring crowdfunded budget topped up with a modest grant from the European Commission, has found a particularly receptive audience among privacy-conscious European regulators.

Germany's data protection commissioner Ulrich Kelber is waging a campaign to get government bodies to close their Facebook pages, since, he says, there is no way of hosting a page there that conforms to European privacy laws.

Authorities should move to the federal government's own Mastodon instance, he says. The European Commission also maintains a server for European Union bodies to toot from.

"No exclusive information should be sent over a legally questionable platform," Kelber said earlier this year.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 08, 2022, 01:29:30 AM
The idea behind it is great, a global communication utility not owned by a single individual or corporation.
Yeah, but that's not what the people fleeing Twitter for it want.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 08, 2022, 06:35:44 AM
yeah, again: the fediverse enabled truth social

you can personally block speech you don't want to see but its inherent design means anyone can spin up a server and seethe and rage and plot government overthrow whether you allow yourself to see them or not

on twitter, blocking someone you don't like has never been enough, you want them banned and gone forever, but the best you can do on the fediverse is block them or their node
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on November 08, 2022, 06:47:31 AM
on twitter, blocking someone you don't like has never been enough, you want them banned and gone forever, but the best you can do on the fediverse is block them or their node

Essentially, the fediverse is the ultimate echo chamber. The end-game will be tons and tons of splintered and insular communities all blocking the bad thoughts, only hearing the things they want to hear, smelling their own farts and never being challenged.

Sounds oddly familar.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 08, 2022, 06:49:50 AM
They're already complaining that there's no way to do blocklists of every possible "Nazi" node like they all used on Twitter. Any "Nazi" can just spin up a new node (or change the old one) and instantly have access to everything again since nobody knows it's a "Nazi" node yet. Some of the "Twitter refugees" have been proposing that mastodon.social be cut off from the fediverse entirely so it operates like Twitter.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 08, 2022, 08:53:34 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/Spjg10D.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/KUI1C0f.jpeg)

 :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on November 08, 2022, 09:03:37 AM
https://twitter.com/Em_alllam/status/1589663034686902272

...surely this is a less environmentally friendly solution than Twitter?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 08, 2022, 09:26:08 AM
It's amazing how many people on Twitter seem to believe Elon is somehow sitting there personally reading the millions of tweets about him. Especially their tweets about him. And has been doing this 24/7 since Friday.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 08, 2022, 10:26:49 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if he spent most of his time vanity searching :elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 08, 2022, 11:19:15 AM
If Mastodon is so decentralized, how do they handle illegal content? Overall this ironically sounds more like a libertarian's dream, not exactly what the Twitter liberals would want to escape to.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 08, 2022, 11:22:16 AM
same as anything else, if you spin up a personal server and put up a website with illegal foot pics then you are in trouble

if you run a server that hosts a message board with illegal foot pics I guess section 230 shields you but you have to comply with government requests to hand over the identifying info of whoever is posting AOC's foot pics
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on November 08, 2022, 11:26:26 AM
#FreeKathy
#Free.Cream
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on November 08, 2022, 11:42:06 AM
If Mastodon is so decentralized, how do they handle illegal content? Overall this ironically sounds more like a libertarian's dream, not exactly what the Twitter liberals would want to escape to.

https://twitter.com/tracewoodgrains/status/1589735961893556224

Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 08, 2022, 12:09:27 PM
Why not simply migrate everyone to Resetera dot com?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 08, 2022, 12:22:33 PM
If Mastodon is so decentralized, how do they handle illegal content? Overall this ironically sounds more like a libertarian's dream, not exactly what the Twitter liberals would want to escape to.

for the child porn obvs :jared
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 08, 2022, 12:23:27 PM
hopefully the ello lads have been biding their time cos now is the moment to strike :rash
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 08, 2022, 12:27:10 PM
If Mastodon is so decentralized, how do they handle illegal content? Overall this ironically sounds more like a libertarian's dream, not exactly what the Twitter liberals would want to escape to.

for the child porn obvs :jared

They already have the shost discord for that
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 08, 2022, 12:52:37 PM
https://twitter.com/Em_alllam/status/1589663034686902272

...surely this is a less environmentally friendly solution than Twitter?
$8 :money
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 08, 2022, 03:07:39 PM
TWITTER JUST FUCKING DIE ALREADY



(https://i.imgur.com/V4u5Cc7.gif)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Himu on November 08, 2022, 03:47:14 PM
:dead Andy
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 08, 2022, 04:08:09 PM
https://twitter.com/tracewoodgrains/status/1589735961893556224
"Not only kys, but do it with a bullet through your vagina."

 :hmm
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on November 08, 2022, 04:33:00 PM
https://twitter.com/tracewoodgrains/status/1589735961893556224
"Not only kys, but do it with a bullet through your vagina."

 :hmm
I give that an 8/10 for disturbing creativity.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 08, 2022, 05:32:20 PM
TWITTER JUST FUCKING DIE ALREADY



(https://i.imgur.com/V4u5Cc7.gif)
$8 :money
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on November 08, 2022, 07:50:48 PM
And if we offer Nintex’s soul? It will finally die?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 08, 2022, 09:21:20 PM
https://twitter.com/MNateShyamalan/status/1589702291803713536
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 08, 2022, 11:36:33 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fg1jXF-WAAAcTl2?format=jpg&name=small)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fg1i0sWXwAAZsV4?format=png&name=small)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fg1joxpXkAAu8_k?format=png&name=small)

 :sicko
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 09, 2022, 04:59:33 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fg1jXF-WAAAcTl2?format=jpg&name=small)

Does he feel less guilty when the report goes to an underpaid worker in the Philippines?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on November 09, 2022, 05:40:53 AM
musk selling more tesla stock to fund twitter means one of two things.

1: it's a dumpster fire and he's willing to stake money from tesla

2: tesla is such widely profitably right now that selling 3 billion to fund a dumpster fire doesn't matter.

Or both.

There was just a repot that tesla is making 8x profit per vehicle compared to toyotas.

so yeah.

no wonder he's fucking that chicken.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on November 09, 2022, 09:38:53 AM
The blue ticks are now getting an "official" badge under their names

wtf why can't I buy this for $8 a month
 
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 09, 2022, 10:03:09 AM
muskrat doesn't care about the little man :hmph
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 09, 2022, 10:16:44 AM
hey remember how "omg musk is getting twitter and making all these changes RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF ELECTIONS IMAGINE THE FUCKERY"

did literally anything happen

or did everyone make all the commentary they normally would, and tweets got shared at the normal rate dunking on all sorts of candidates

 :yeshrug
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 09, 2022, 10:47:33 AM
The blue ticks are now getting an "official" badge under their names

wtf why can't I buy this for $8 a month

Lol it looks horrible
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 09, 2022, 11:37:40 AM
So a two caste system becomes a three-caste system.

Progress!
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 09, 2022, 11:42:22 AM
Lets see how well Musk does on his knees begging for money

https://twitter.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1590374956004970496
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 09, 2022, 11:47:44 AM
The blue ticks are now getting an "official" badge under their names

wtf why can't I buy this for $8 a month

Lol it looks horrible

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1590383366213611522

 :tauntaun :tauntaun :tauntaun
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 09, 2022, 12:00:50 PM
https://twitter.com/PoorlyAgedStuff/status/1590154941838299139
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 09, 2022, 01:33:32 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1590381000236077056 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1590381000236077056)

The world is healing :rejoice
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tuckers Law on November 09, 2022, 03:39:13 PM
EL*N M*SK

 :gamergate :gamergate :gamergate
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 09, 2022, 05:56:45 PM
So a two caste system becomes a three-caste system.

Progress!
This was always my complaint, two castes is just so disgustingly American. The lower Blue Checks thinking they were equal with all Blue Checks is unacceptable.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Beezy on November 09, 2022, 06:44:03 PM
https://twitter.com/mmasnick/status/1590478842606800898
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 09, 2022, 07:25:18 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhKTfQ0aAAAerf3?format=jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhJ0sQ1WIAAXfs1?format=png)

$16 :money
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 09, 2022, 07:41:15 PM
All of this just to stick it to the small "blue checkmark elite club"  :lol

Musk got so caught up in this meta game that he forgot the actual purpose of the verified checkmark.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 09, 2022, 07:45:55 PM
the first one doesn't seem to be real since https://twitter.com/Nintendoofus isn't even verified, and the second one is already banned

edit: nevermind the first one was actually https://twitter.com/nlntendoofus and is also already banned
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 09, 2022, 07:45:59 PM
Just look at your Twitter feed. No one is leaving, everyone is buying these $8 checkmarks :money

And Team Trump got blown the fuck out so no calls to let the circus back on Twitter either  :doge
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 09, 2022, 08:07:06 PM
Maybe Blue Checks who want it to mean something shouldn't platform obscure newly created accounts that paid for a Blue Check just to do dumb stuff? I thought we were supposed to be using our personal platforms responsibly since we're all personally responsible for anything we could be accused of?

Maybe just report them for impersonation instead of scream about them to your followers?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 09, 2022, 08:10:19 PM
I'm not sure if it would be smarter to block the associated method of payment so they can't do more fuckery, or to allow it so you can harvest $8 per joke
 :money

I suppose the main issue will be signing up for a new account and needing a new phone number to burn
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on November 09, 2022, 11:39:58 PM
https://twitter.com/HeheWaitWhut/status/1590489781502611458

https://twitter.com/ThaReaI0J32/status/1590459464125386752

Honestly, I don't see any negatives right now
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 09, 2022, 11:42:49 PM
I don't understand what that screenshot is supposed to show? Are those not the official accounts of those two people?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 09, 2022, 11:55:18 PM
So many Blue Checks crying at all the accounts they've hated for years that have bought Blue Checks, taking screenshots of them and saying THIS IS UNFAIR, THEY JUST PAID, I EARNED MINE!
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 10, 2022, 12:27:36 AM
Most (or even all?) of us have an urge to feel superior (stronger in some, weaker in others). It's one of humanity's more unfortunate traits and the root cause of so many problems.
The less you allow yourself to be influenced by this, the better.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 10, 2022, 12:38:02 AM
That's why it's always important to keep in mind that the one thing you're superior at is being worse than everyone else. :rollsafe
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on November 10, 2022, 06:33:49 AM
https://twitter.com/MisterRatt/status/1590632287544438784

 :clap
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on November 10, 2022, 07:02:59 AM
Can’t believe it actually ended up being pay 2 win without any verification needed  :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 10, 2022, 07:05:55 AM
https://twitter.com/StephenSeanFord/status/1590451547582115840
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 10, 2022, 07:11:10 AM
https://twit ter.c om/HeheWaitWhut/status/1590489781502611458

https://twit ter.c om/ThaReaI0J32/status/1590459464125386752

Honestly, I don't see any negatives right now

https://twit ter.c om/MisterRatt/status/1590632287544438784

 :clap

https://twitter.com/dBenShapiro/
https://twitter.com/pantscord/
https://twitter.com/ThaReaI0J32/
https://twitter.com/GeorgeWBushs/
https://twitter.com/MPTonyBlair/

again, I don't get the "lool look at musk's horrific twitter shitshow"

it's all swiftly dealt with and everyone who did it paid $8 for the meme and burned a phone number on it
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on November 10, 2022, 07:27:05 AM
https://twit ter.c om/HeheWaitWhut/status/1590489781502611458

https://twit ter.c om/ThaReaI0J32/status/1590459464125386752

Honestly, I don't see any negatives right now

https://twit ter.c om/MisterRatt/status/1590632287544438784

 :clap

https://twitter.com/dBenShapiro/
https://twitter.com/pantscord/
https://twitter.com/ThaReaI0J32/
https://twitter.com/GeorgeWBushs/
https://twitter.com/MPTonyBlair/

again, I don't get the "lool look at musk's horrific twitter shitshow"

it's all swiftly dealt with and everyone who did it paid $8 for the meme and burned a phone number on it

This is what's funny about it, I know $8 isn't much (and musk knows it too) but they're literally paying to try and troll musk.


Buncha of chumps.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 10, 2022, 10:19:59 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/CaseyNewton/status/1590724257608134657
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: headwalk on November 10, 2022, 11:03:14 AM
"chief compliance officer" sounds proper 40k.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 10, 2022, 11:17:11 AM
Combined with this it sounds like good times:

https://mobile.twitter.com/mmasnick/status/1590455595970461696
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on November 10, 2022, 11:44:01 AM
musk to the ftc:  :smug
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on November 10, 2022, 12:03:53 PM
https://twitter.com/RayKump/status/1590553793821016064

:hesright
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 10, 2022, 12:06:52 PM
Really seems like Elon is deliberate sabotaging this.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 10, 2022, 12:13:19 PM
getting big "modern warfare 2 boycott" meme energy surrounding twitter

everyone seemingly hates it but no one is leaving

imgur is further left than resetera and has been dunking on elections and musk this whole time, but you go to the front page of the most viral content right now and...

(https://i.imgur.com/VUjGcyB.png)

it's 70% tweets

not a single mastodon or cohost image

no one is leaving twitter
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 10, 2022, 12:16:18 PM
no one is leaving twitter

Everyone stays to look at the train wreck but nobody sticks around to pick up the wreckage
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 10, 2022, 12:22:18 PM
https://twitter.com/HaysKali/status/1590729727459086337

:pika
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on November 10, 2022, 12:33:16 PM
https://twitter.com/HaysKali/status/1590729727459086337

:pika

If you schedule the email to be sent at 2.30am its too obvious. If you schedule it for 2.39am everyone thinks you actually sent it then.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 10, 2022, 12:33:59 PM
lol what an idiot, he should have waited a few months for twitter to collapse and pick up the corpse for a low low price :money
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 10, 2022, 12:35:21 PM
no one is leaving twitter

Everyone stays to look at the train wreck but nobody sticks around to pick up the wreckage

what I mean is, it's business as usual, it's not about the trainwreck it's about the election

everyone has already just continued with the status quo of a few weeks ago and don't even both to make "eww twitter lol" posts anymore
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on November 10, 2022, 12:42:28 PM
You are saying all this like Elon is not going to say or do something extremely polarizing in the incoming weeks. He has Trump disease.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 10, 2022, 12:46:07 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhOAtXOVQAAONZZ?format=jpg&name=900x900)
He's doing that personally. LOL.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 10, 2022, 04:49:23 PM
Get the popcorn

https://twitter.com/ZoeSchiffer/status/1590809573367382016

https://twitter.com/MikeIsaac/status/1590810660887461888
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on November 10, 2022, 04:51:58 PM
What's weird about the timing of the email?  It's wildly known that dude doesn't really sleep.

Also if I bought a new thing I'd be all in the guts
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on November 10, 2022, 04:55:00 PM
leave elon alone!
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 10, 2022, 04:58:12 PM
Will the last Twitter employee please turn off the light

https://twitter.com/ZoeSchiffer/status/1590820944125513728
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 10, 2022, 05:01:18 PM
again, I don't get the "lool look at musk's horrific twitter shitshow"

it's all swiftly dealt with and everyone who did it paid $8 for the meme and burned a phone number on it
They are calling attention to the threat of disinformation, it's simply too dangerous to be allowing people to tweet falsely to the zero people who would have been searching for Tony Blair accounts and that's why it's important to spread far and wide these fake Tony Blair accounts saying nothing interesting to make the danger known until Musk concedes and turns Twitter over to The People (who have been verified under the old system) as it used to be.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 10, 2022, 05:03:49 PM
Im expecting an hour+ downtime incident by Monday. Theyre going to push through a new yellow check and break something
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on November 10, 2022, 05:07:08 PM
again, I don't get the "lool look at musk's horrific twitter shitshow"

it's all swiftly dealt with and everyone who did it paid $8 for the meme and burned a phone number on it
They are calling attention to the threat of disinformation, it's simply too dangerous to be allowing people to tweet falsely to the zero people who would have been searching for Tony Blair accounts and that's why it's important to spread far and wide these fake Tony Blair accounts saying nothing interesting to make the danger known until Musk concedes and turns Twitter over to The People (who have been verified under the old system) as it used to be.



Guys, it is just trolling. Is not that complicated.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on November 10, 2022, 05:09:56 PM
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1590826784131780608

welp

edit: beaten
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 10, 2022, 05:22:37 PM


Guys, it is just trolling. Is not that complicated.
No, it is not. This is literally the democracy of the entire planet on the line and these Blue Checks are irresponsibly using their divinely granted platforms to bring about global fascism instead.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on November 10, 2022, 05:34:44 PM
Why are all the blue checks concerned about all these people in leadership positions being fired?

These are the same people who stewarded Twatter into the Nazi hellscape that they all said it was...
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on November 10, 2022, 05:42:06 PM
Because Elon is, surprsingly, more clueless. The fact he is rehiring people is a tip off.

Of course, if you don’t care about Twitter, this is is a genuinely funny shitshow.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on November 10, 2022, 05:45:49 PM

Of course, if you don’t care about Twitter, this is is a genuinely funny shitshow.

That's the spirit
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 10, 2022, 05:52:49 PM

Of course, if you don’t care about Twitter, this is is a genuinely funny shitshow.

That's the spirit
There are literally millions of lives at stake and you two are laughing?

https://twitter.com/prpltnkr/status/1589730134499946498
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on November 10, 2022, 05:57:29 PM
:dead
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 10, 2022, 05:58:35 PM
Maybe making The Purge real life isn't such a bad idea.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on November 10, 2022, 06:02:45 PM

Of course, if you don’t care about Twitter, this is is a genuinely funny shitshow.

That's the spirit
There are literally millions of lives at stake and you two are laughing?

https://twitter.com/prpltnkr/status/1589730134499946498
Twatter truly is the "town square" when people are literally begging in it. Congrats twatteratti, you've finally done it.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 10, 2022, 06:13:52 PM
https://twitter.com/kristinrawls/status/1590458036790796289
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 10, 2022, 06:47:27 PM
Elon is making all the right calls. I'm in awe to see swift decision making in practice.
I'm seeing blue checks everywhere and more ads than ever before. Trending topics are actually the trending topics now, not that dumb curated shit.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 10, 2022, 07:10:21 PM
Yeah, and Stalin's random purges totally increased the fighting power of the Red Army. Such decisiveness!
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 10, 2022, 07:24:51 PM

Of course, if you don’t care about Twitter, this is is a genuinely funny shitshow.

That's the spirit
There are literally millions of lives at stake and you two are laughing?

https://twitter.com/prpltnkr/status/1589730134499946498

WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE GRIFTERS? :six:
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 10, 2022, 08:19:24 PM
(https://i.redd.it/xf62qhd8s8z91.jpg)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on November 10, 2022, 08:20:17 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhPnQrXWIAI5ZVy?format=jpg&name=small)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhPnQrVXoAICyTp?format=jpg&name=small)

(https://imgur.com/7cE4Ni4.jpg)

I'm sorry, but Twitter has not been this funny and enjoyable in a long time.  Best thing that has ever happened to that site. 
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 10, 2022, 08:30:57 PM
Why do people pay for Netflix when this entertainment is free

https://twitter.com/TesIaReal/status/1590829623876915200
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 10, 2022, 08:32:35 PM
https://twitter.com/CaseyNewton/status/1590872253583233024
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on November 10, 2022, 08:48:22 PM
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/888238103406460968/1040363109153517579/unknown.png)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 10, 2022, 09:14:31 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1590886170543915009

 :tauntaun :tauntaun :tauntaun :tauntaun
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 10, 2022, 09:54:55 PM
https://twitter.com/mumbly_joe/status/1590825633298673664
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on November 10, 2022, 10:07:43 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 10, 2022, 11:03:58 PM
Its baaaaaack

https://twitter.com/akmercog/status/1590906675531501568
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 10, 2022, 11:29:00 PM
https://twitter.com/stealthygeek/status/1590877760846958592
https://twitter.com/stealthygeek/status/1590879141800251392
https://twitter.com/stealthygeek/status/1590881747746828288
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 11, 2022, 12:02:55 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/JoshuaPHilll/status/1590899514638229506
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on November 11, 2022, 12:31:38 AM
https://twitter.com/stealthygeek/status/1590881747746828288 (https://twitter.com/stealthygeek/status/1590881747746828288)

 :goty2


Quote from: Oh, for fuck's sake
For a flickering candle of hope in a dark world.


What a wanker
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 11, 2022, 02:56:52 AM
Twitter will be saved by the Toxic Trump and Ron DeSanctimonious ad spending
:money
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 11, 2022, 06:30:23 AM
:goty2


Quote from: Oh, for fuck's sake
For a flickering candle of hope in a dark world.


What a wanker

https://97x.com/wisconsin-man-says-hes-been-swatted-six-times-after-norm-macdonald-tweet/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTMBNcPSfbU
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: bork on November 11, 2022, 11:30:18 AM
https://gizmodo.com/twitter-elon-musk-official-verified-badge-ftc-nytimes-1849771565/amp

Quote
Musk, who was forced to buy Twitter for $44 billion just two weeks ago after trying to back out of the deal, clearly has no idea what he’s doing with the social media company. The billionaire almost immediately fired half the Twitter staff, only to backtrack and ask some people to return because they were desperately needed to make the changes Musk wants to see at the site

...

Normally, Gizmodo would reach out to Twitter’s communications team for comment. But Twitter no longer has a communications team. In fact, Twitter doesn’t have much of a team at all, according to the latest reports. Several top Twitter executives quit on Thursday, including Twitter’s head of moderation and safety Yoel Roth, chief information security officer Lea Kissner, and chief compliance officer Marianne Fogarty.

And it looks like smart people at Twitter are concerned about the changes Musk is making to squeeze every last dollar out of the social media platform. Twitter has an agreement with the Federal Trade Commission that it will no longer user personal information to target ads. But Musk doesn’t have much interest in abiding by the FTC agreement, according to the Verge, and Musk’s personal lawyer was even quoted as saying, “Elon puts rockets into space, he’s not afraid of the FTC.” The fines for noncompliance could reach billion of dollars.

Apparently at least one lawyer inside Twitter has taken to Slack to say that Musk is acting against the best interests of Twitter’s users, which includes human rights activists and other dissidents who could face severe consequences if their identities are exposed. The unnamed lawyer even encouraged any Twitter employee to become a whistleblower and notify the FTC if workers “feel uncomfortable about anything you’re being asked to do,” according to the Verge.

Musk has even discussed the possibility this week that Twitter may need to declare bankruptcy, according to the Financial Times, which is an incredible place to be in such a short period of time. Remember, Musk took over the site just two weeks ago. It’s hard to imagine that literally anyone with half a brain could fuck things up this bad.




:titus
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on November 11, 2022, 11:38:11 AM
Quote
It’s hard to imagine that literally anyone with half a brain could fuck things up this bad.

Editorial Integrity.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 11, 2022, 12:04:57 PM
If Twitter collapses after only two weeks of a new CEO, I don't care who that CEO is, that business has had some serious problems for a long time.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on November 11, 2022, 12:06:35 PM
Bankrupt in two weeks 

:gaas :elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 11, 2022, 12:09:25 PM
https://twitter.com/DougFord_ON/status/1590856189885435910
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on November 11, 2022, 12:47:13 PM
If Twitter collapses after only two weeks of a new CEO, I don't care who that CEO is, that business has had some serious problems for a long time.

Everybody knew that Twitter has been unprofitable for a while. Is just funny seeing how desperate is Elon to make profit rather than the impersonal incompetence of past Twitter.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 11, 2022, 12:49:45 PM
Everybody but the "genius" who bought it for $44bn.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 11, 2022, 01:06:31 PM
This is how it works in corporate take-overs. You move quickly before your opponents can catch up and make all the big decisions.
It's either sink or swim. There's no time to debate or discuss you either do it or you don't.

After Twitter survives and becomes profitable Elon will put a new CEO in place with a friendly face who will have to 'maintain' the company and repair some of the damage after reforms and brutal cuts.

This is pretty much the same playbook as Steve Jobs used when he re-joined Apple.
He fired tons of people in high positions, cancelled projects left and right and went up against the very core ideals of Apple by striking a deal with their competitor: Microsoft.
He knew Microsoft needed a viable competitor to prevent anti-trust lawsuits. That was more valuable to Microsoft than regaining Apple's dwindling market share.

Steve Jobs looked as crazy at the time as Elon Musk does now.

For all those decisions Jobs took full responsibilty. Just like Elon is doing now.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 11, 2022, 01:45:36 PM
(https://preview.redd.it/1k0vlqh56dz91.png?width=742&auto=webp&s=6b53cf7130bb7619fa11750797ddc86a2b607916)

(https://out.reddit.com/t3_ys80gh?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FjSwpB40.jpg&token=AQAAE6ZuY9cNsG_EQg69NAlir352xzn25X_2rRhzBcYhx-LrpYnZ&app_name=reddit.com)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 11, 2022, 02:09:59 PM
If Twitter collapses after only two weeks of a new CEO, I don't care who that CEO is, that business has had some serious problems for a long time.

earlier it was stated that twitter performed poorly in their yearly ad sales conference, which happened just a few weeks after musk offered to buy the platform

this person claims that a coalition specifically aimed at stopping the deal interfered with advertisers to poison the well, though looking at the dates his timeline seems a little off

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1588696157794242560.html

but an insane conspiracy-minded person could argue that twitter sabotaged their potential ad revenue for the upcoming year and set musk up to fail  :tinfoil
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on November 11, 2022, 02:55:29 PM
filler come get yo girl

https://twitter.com/animeweedfart69/status/1591121864172396546
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 11, 2022, 04:40:59 PM
Reply all chaos is classic gold

https://mobile.twitter.com/ZoeSchiffer/status/1591152301817102336
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on November 11, 2022, 05:12:56 PM
The more we see behind the veil of Twatter operationally, the easier it is to see how it's been such a basket case for so long. These people Musk inherited are just incompetent. Combine that with his idiocy and it's just prime car crash material.
 :mouf
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 11, 2022, 06:36:42 PM
If Twitter collapses after only two weeks of a new CEO, I don't care who that CEO is, that business has had some serious problems for a long time.
Nope, the verified users (so not allowed to post misinformation) have assured me that Musk has ruined Twitter's massive financial success in just a week and it probably won't make it to Thanksgiving let alone the new year now because of Musk's FREEZE PEACH FOR $8 stupidity. We're just lucky he was able to ruin the company completely before he could destroy democracy like he nearly did on Tuesday and definitely would have if Twitter made it to 2024. If Musk wasn't the stupidest man on the planet he would have lulled everyone into a false sense of security while cashing the fat Twitter checks so he could unban Trump for 2024 and bring in the fascism he desires. Thankfully, the powerful conspiracy that operates all of society in pursuit of a singular goal is once again full of morons who can't walk and chew gum at the same time let alone run the most essential and profitable corporation on the planet as well as the average clickbait journalist or politically obsessed YouTuber who gives all their unparalleled business advice for free to the public constantly.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 11, 2022, 07:19:19 PM
If Twitter collapses after only two weeks of a new CEO, I don't care who that CEO is, that business has had some serious problems for a long time.

Yes but it's akin to someone with cancer trying to cure it with black salve instead of doing chemo;  they still have cancer but now they have also burnt their tits off (and are still telling people that chemo is poison, probably over twitter).  The mass firings just massively accelerated and exacerbated issues.  Like it's not just a new CEO, it's a new CEO and half the workers and half the workers trying to do all the old work plus all the new ideas of the new boss.  This idea also relies on the misconception that Twitter, being a tech company, was probably just a bunch of programmers whose daily job wasn't critical to daily operations, so big cuts shouldn't result in disaster in just a few weeks.  Also, those programmers actually are critical to daily operations if you are implementing on-the-fly platform changes at the whim of the new boss.  A better analogy would be that Musk tried to put out a fire with gasoline.  Yes, being on fire is a problem, but how it got serious really depends on the size of the original fire and the amount of gasoline given, and Musk dumped the whole can. 
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 11, 2022, 07:25:56 PM
That assumes that the work of half those workers is work that needs to be done, I have yet to see evidence of that being the case. Clearing out useless management and bureaucrats wasting money isn't the same thing as getting rid of essential employees.

To be fair, I'm also going to be skeptical of a bunch of anonymous sources who are telling everyone the exact narrative they want to hear without any details.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Coax on November 11, 2022, 07:34:53 PM
If Twitter collapses after only two weeks of a new CEO, I don't care who that CEO is, that business has had some serious problems for a long time.

One of their devs recently said they were "near death" right before the 2016 elections it was that bad. The uptick in traffic stirred over Trump saved them, ironically.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 11, 2022, 07:46:24 PM
This is a company that has been losing millions of dollars a day for how long yet somehow the burden has been completely shifted. :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 11, 2022, 07:51:38 PM
I know this is the thread, or at least the latest thread iteration, for terminally online people to point at others and go 'look at those terminally online people', so excuse me if I'm doing this wrong, but you don't consider the state of Twitter before and after the firings to be that evidence?  It feels a bit contrarian to see what is happening and go, everyone is saying this is a disaster, but excuse me if I don't believe a bunch of blue-hairs.  Getting rid of flabby middle management in the middle of a recession is just standard business practice.  You can't cut people and make big structural changes while also making big changes to the product.  A janitor is an essential employee when someone is shitting on the floor.       

An alternative answer to keep with the thread:  LOL ya, Twitter said the moderators were useless, but now they are all concerned that the people doing moderation might have been let go, look at those hypocrites.   
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 11, 2022, 07:57:51 PM
I know this is the thread, or at least the latest thread iteration, for terminally online people to point at others and go 'look at those terminally online people', so excuse me if I'm doing this wrong, but you don't consider the state of Twitter before and after the firings to be that evidence?  It feels a bit contrarian to see what is happening and go, everyone is saying this is a disaster, but excuse me if I don't believe a bunch of blue-hairs.  Getting rid of flabby middle management in the middle of a recession is just standard business practice.  You can't cut people and make big structural changes while also making big changes to the product.  A janitor is an essential employee when someone is shitting on the floor.   
The state of Twitter before: losing millions of dollars a day, never really profitable, no clear plan of monetization ever found.

The state of Twitter after: half as many employees, nothing else has changed yet.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 11, 2022, 08:02:39 PM
I'm sure some good people got caught in the group that was fired. It is inevitable with such poor numbers.

But if you take a step back it was clear that Twitter was a nuthouse.
The fact that they had UN Human Rights Advocates doing 'Important Work' for Ethiopia(?) on their payroll really screams that they were mostly just activists.
I wonder how many diversity officers, inclusivity managers, VP's of safe spaces and Corporate Policy Officers they actually had running around, a whole damn lot it seems.
A company like Microsoft can afford to keep a useless bunch around up to a certain point for appearances and sometimes they even make something like Kinect but Twitter which makes no money should focus on the fundamentals like Elon is doing.

Twitter had a terrible business model, in fact all sorts of paid services appeared around Twitter to do things like curb follower lists, track users, make longer Tweets etc. .
The UN Human Rights Advocates certainly weren't doing anything to improve the bottom line of the company or the user experience.


Elon doing the fact checking all by himself

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1591206480338116608 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1591206480338116608)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 11, 2022, 08:51:23 PM
Ya, that's true.  I imagine the numbers work like this.  There were 3,700 people cut.  One of them was an activist UN Human Rights Advocates doing 'Important Work' for Ethiopia (insert starvation joke because it's the 90's) and if there was one of them, then we probably could find one for Chad, Syria, and the rest of them.  Generalizing that, we have 195 activist UN Human Rights Advocates at Twitter, one for each county of course.  And because we know no one does anything at twitter, we know that for every one person doing 'Important Work' for Ethiopia, there will be one doing 'Unimportant Work' for Ethiopia.  Extrapolating that gets us to 390 useless employees who certainly weren't doing anything to improve the bottom line of the company or the user experience.  Now we need to factor in each one of their unique managers who we can assume exist and don't do anything but manage the people doing 'Important and Unimportant Work':  that's 780 people right there.   That's already 20% of the people cut.  An absolute nuthouse.         
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 11, 2022, 09:13:43 PM
Blue Checks now reporting the news of themselves making fake accounts:
(https://i.imgur.com/uqIZjf3.png)
https://twitter.com/geoffreyfowler/status/1591111320547430400
https://twitter.com/ShiraOvide/status/1591055728319819779
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tuckers Law on November 11, 2022, 09:16:54 PM
Ya, that's true.  I imagine the numbers work like this.  There were 3,700 people cut.  One of them was an activist UN Human Rights Advocates doing 'Important Work' for Ethiopia (insert starvation joke because it's the 90's) and if there was one of them, then we probably could find one for Chad, Syria, and the rest of them.  Generalizing that, we have 195 activist UN Human Rights Advocates at Twitter, one for each county of course.  And because we know no one does anything at twitter, we know that for every one person doing 'Important Work' for Ethiopia, there will be one doing 'Unimportant Work' for Ethiopia.  Extrapolating that gets us to 390 useless employees who certainly weren't doing anything to improve the bottom line of the company or the user experience.  Now we need to factor in each one of their unique managers who we can assume exist and don't do anything but manage the people doing 'Important and Unimportant Work':  that's 780 people right there.   That's already 20% of the people cut.  An absolute nuthouse.       
You're probably lowballing the ratio of useless managers to useless employees, really.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 11, 2022, 09:53:29 PM
This is a company that has been losing millions of dollars a day for how long yet somehow the burden has been completely shifted. :lol

Elon Musk and David Zaslav: Umm time to stop playing make-believe, let's actually turn a profit now

Twitter, WBD and The Media™: (https://media.tenor.com/iHBz32wQcsEAAAAM/drama-miss-j-alexander.gif)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 11, 2022, 10:05:01 PM
It's weird because I know a good number of these very same people currently bitching often vocally criticize tech (and other) companies going back to investors over and over to prop up chasing growth at all costs in hopes that actual people will pay down the road. But they seem to make an exception for Twitter even as the previous management couldn't seem to explain what the product was actually supposed to ever be. I'm not saying Elon will figure it out but subscriptions seems like the one thing they could conceivably actually sell even if this current iOS-only Twitter Blue that consists of a Blue Check is probably not the ideal.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 11, 2022, 11:12:24 PM
https://twitter.com/davetroy/status/1590755127312674816

Obligatory:
Quote
Dave Troy
@davetroy
Investigative journalist addressing threats to democracy.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/davetroy/status/1590856556039573505
https://twitter.com/davetroy/status/1590884694513491971
https://twitter.com/ArthurJonesJr13/status/1590835792926367745
[close]
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 11, 2022, 11:28:54 PM
https://twitter.com/evan_greer/status/1590871245486112768
https://twitter.com/evan_greer/status/1591154143015866368
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: VomKriege on November 12, 2022, 05:31:34 AM
Oh no, does the conspiracy against Musk knows no bounds ? 😭
https://twitter.com/ReutersAsia/status/1591241936408657921

Damn the activists of checks notes one of the largest advertisement conglomerate worldwide.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: headwalk on November 12, 2022, 07:04:44 AM
https://twitter.com/evan_greer/status/1590871245486112768
https://twitter.com/evan_greer/status/1591154143015866368

is her mastodon handle "evan greer is on twitter (and pays for a blue checkmark)"?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 12, 2022, 11:40:00 PM
https://twitter.com/B3nSh4p1ro/status/1591492192350384129
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Maiden Voyage on November 13, 2022, 11:26:36 AM
https://twitter.com/B3nSh4p1ro/status/1591492192350384129

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F-L8dvfQsLNyo%2FWi7-txzcbRI%2FAAAAAAAJZR4%2FPhEFawZAji4hRI-zE5TMiCW2tryMz35CQCLcBGAs%2Fs1600%2F88c94fdafdbf6241458177a456fa1fb584b61a37b9f71a4f1009741fd5f11525.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=637feabcdf34e4b47362e4e6a83d71b51edc719ba66663dd8039c4e94b97c923&ipo=images)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 13, 2022, 01:07:55 PM
I didn't have the former CEO of Tmobile asking for a job to Elon on my bingo
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 13, 2022, 01:38:19 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/CaseyNewton/status/1591848844899540992
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 13, 2022, 02:25:49 PM
You don't need 5500 peeps to run a website. :trumps

I'm stunned at the number of employees and contractors they had to be honest.

Microsoft Studios has about ~3000 employees, Nintendo about ~6000.
Twitter had 7500 employees and apparently 5500 contractors.

That's 13 000 employees.
What the fuck were they doing all day.

LinkedIn has more sure, but they do a lot of corporate outreach and have various advertising products within their platform as well as consultants who work directly with larger clients.
Twitter has none of that.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 13, 2022, 02:42:32 PM
Jack Dorsey does seem like the kind of soft touch who'd be easily convinced that bringing in loads of people was needed.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 13, 2022, 02:45:08 PM
Jack Dorsey does seem like the kind of soft touch who'd be easily convinced that bringing in loads of people was needed.
Even better the loads of people they brought in apparently told them to hire more outside contractors to do the actual work  :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 13, 2022, 02:49:02 PM
Dorsey seems like the kind of idiot who'd see a tweet linking to some Important Piece and actually click and read it, instead of thinking "suck my dick you fucking clown" and muting the person who linked it :smug

spoiler (click to show/hide)
pretty sure I muted the word important when i was active on there, a lot of people would use it to link to one of their mates shitty blogs/article
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Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on November 13, 2022, 02:51:26 PM
Holy shit, that's obscene to have that many contractors and permanent employees when you're losing that much money.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 13, 2022, 03:30:28 PM
I remember the time when Twitter was still a technology company.
They made things like the Bootstrap CSS framework and they had all sorts of widgets for websites and API's as well as probably the most advanced search engine out of all the scocial media platforms at that time.

If you look at their headcount it remained stable up until 2017 or so then it increased from ~3000 to 7500 in 2022.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1591876240830504960 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1591876240830504960)

:elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Himu on November 13, 2022, 04:19:42 PM
LMFAO liberals and leftists are weak, entitled, and lazy? Who would have thought? Kek.

https://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-manager-says-engineers-he-rehired-are-weak-lazy-unmotivated-2022-11?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=news_tab

Quote
A Twitter manager says laid-off engineers he's rehired are 'weak, lazy, unmotivated'

- A Twitter manager described laid-off engineers he rehired as "weak, lazy, unmotivated."
- A screenshot of what appeared to be Slack messages has circulated on the Blind app.
- A source confirmed the manager worked for Twitter and said his comments sparked much internal debate.

A Twitter manager who rehired engineers after they lost their jobs in the recent mass layoffs appeared to criticize them on the company's internal messaging system.

A screenshot of the comments made by the senior director of engineering were posted by another Twitter worker on the anonymous forum Blind. They read: "This is going to be the challenge. The engineers I am bringing back are weak, lazy, unmotivated, and they may even be against an Elon Twitter."

"They were cut for a reason, so we need to think of these people as just needing to be around until the knowledge transition is completed," the manager continued.

A source at Twitter who spoke on condition on anonymity confirmed the manager's identity to Insider. The individual's LinkedIn profile showed that they had worked for Twitter since 2013.

The manager has been contacted for comment by Insider.

The comments have sparked much internal debate on Slack, according to Insider's source.

A screenshot of the messages also circulated online, which was also shared by data journalist Joshua Byrd.

The managing editor of the tech-and-democracy focused newsletter Platformer, Zoë Schiffer, tweeted that she had confirmed the manager did work at Twitter but later deleted her tweet saying: "I don't think naming someone at his level is necessary (not because the screenshot isn't real)."

Insider also surveyed Blind, a forum where employees can hold anonymous conversations, and found a post asking users whether they thought Elon Musk would take action following the manager's comments.

Of 157 responses, 60 thought Musk would promote the manager, 56 thought he would do nothing and 41 said he would fire the individual.

Musk fired half Twitter's workforce after taking control, but a few days later some employees were already been asked to come back.

Twitter didn't immediately respond to a request for comment by Insider.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 13, 2022, 04:35:32 PM
the question is, do you save enough money by firing thousands, and earn enough money from blue subscribers, to offset the loss from advertisers

:idont

is the implication above that twitter initially had 7500 permanent employees, and then an additional 5500 contractors?

so they fired "about half" of the 7500 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/11/09/elon-musk-how-not-to-fire-employees/) and then 4400 of the 5500?

8150 people making an average of 100k a year is 815 million dollars saved

if they only made 50k that's 407 million dollars saved

twitter has 400 million users, if 5% of them subscribed to twitter blue for a year that's 20M * 8 * 12 = 1.92 billion dollars

if only 1% subscribed that'd still be 384 million dollars

historically twitter earns about 1 billion per quarter from just advertising (https://s22.q4cdn.com/826641620/files/doc_financials/2022/q2/Final_Q2'22_Earnings_Release.pdf), which is 4 billion per year, but I'm not sure what percentage of that might've been lost at this time by advertisers pulling out

however they also have other revenue streams like licensing out user data

 :elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 13, 2022, 06:36:28 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1591885013913849856 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1591885013913849856)

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1591935035367723008 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1591935035367723008)

https://twitter.com/EricFrohnhoefer/status/1591902285403418624 (https://twitter.com/EricFrohnhoefer/status/1591902285403418624)

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1591937998551130117 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1591937998551130117)

:elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Polident Hive on November 13, 2022, 06:52:39 PM
More and more it seems anybody working at Twitter, past present or future, is an asshole.

Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on November 13, 2022, 06:52:48 PM
Elon Musk likes pervy games?

That is the more likeable he has been in years.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 13, 2022, 06:59:47 PM
:elon
This seems like a dumb thing to do, Elon seems like the kind of guy who would call your bluff by posting internal spreadsheets on Twitter.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 13, 2022, 07:32:15 PM
https://twitter.com/heidilegg/status/1591858553283051520
https://twitter.com/heidilegg/status/1591860534961655809
Quote
Heidi Legg
@heidilegg
Media Accountability. @IQSS @Harvard @ShorensteinCtr @Kennedy_School. Journalism=Democracy. Founder http://TheEditorial.com. Retweets—in awe. Canadian/American.
https://twitter.com/heidilegg/status/1591792818359599105
https://twitter.com/heidilegg/status/1591793872942026754
https://twitter.com/heidilegg/status/1591800636550832129
https://twitter.com/heidilegg/status/1591798479252508672
https://twitter.com/heidilegg/status/1591857720936005634

spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/AndrewRCraig/status/1591840907258908673
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Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on November 13, 2022, 09:59:42 PM
https://twitter.com/EricFrohnhoefer/status/1591902285403418624 (https://twitter.com/EricFrohnhoefer/status/1591902285403418624)

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1591937998551130117 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1591937998551130117)

 :elon
Looks like that Eric bitch sat back down. His Twatter profile is  :picard
(https://i.imgur.com/ZzywUBn.jpg)


Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 13, 2022, 10:12:18 PM
(https://preview.redd.it/l6m0fvjmaqz91.jpg?width=519&auto=webp&s=5a579fbc844ba3596ee3e11f196f4176c62e2c40)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Polident Hive on November 13, 2022, 11:22:33 PM
Seeing numerous tweets where people gawk at Musk’s posts getting fact checked. With some zinger about it being his site and spending $44B. All it reveals is how they’d act given a taste of power.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on November 13, 2022, 11:41:50 PM
 :spiders :biden
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on November 14, 2022, 06:18:33 AM
filler come get yo girl

https://twitter.com/animeweedfart69/status/1591121864172396546

https://twitter.com/Bicosmico/status/1591934480557953027
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: bork on November 14, 2022, 09:54:25 AM
https://www.animesenpai.net/mangaka-demands-1-billion-dollars-from-elon-musk-for-using-his-artwork-without-permission/

https://mobile.twitter.com/sato_ken_taro/status/1589513511503552512
Quote
The tweet roughly translates as:

Quote
Elon Musk, the new CEO of Twitter, has reprinted my picture on Twitter without permission, so please give me 1 billion for the usage fee. in dollars.

Satou Kentarou on Twitter

 :uguu
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 14, 2022, 10:23:34 AM
:elon

He's probably crazy enough to actually do it. :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 14, 2022, 12:44:03 PM
Elon Musk has abandoned his other companies

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1592159017270677504

Dealing with the important stuff

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1592168994131554304
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 14, 2022, 03:35:03 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/zachsilberberg/status/1592228112770924544
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 14, 2022, 03:57:57 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1592152556373176321 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1592152556373176321)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 14, 2022, 03:58:47 PM
maybe people would like muskrat better if he changed his name to Elon Tweetman :elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 14, 2022, 04:19:33 PM
Elon Musk running Twitter

(https://media.tenor.com/1iEihUlQrswAAAAC/chernobyl-anatoly-dyatlov.gif)

(https://media.tenor.com/gAdYGMJcIMkAAAAC/chernobyl-anatoly-dyatlov.gif)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on November 14, 2022, 04:32:30 PM
"oooo what does this button do"
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 14, 2022, 06:56:50 PM
https://twitter.com/johngirvin/status/1592264883898585088
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 14, 2022, 06:59:07 PM
Seems legit. Benji, you pet it first.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 14, 2022, 09:57:39 PM
https://twitter.com/loudmouthjulia/status/1592201170889904131
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 15, 2022, 11:19:51 AM
Cancel culture is out of control

https://mobile.twitter.com/CaseyNewton/status/1592539948745650176
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 15, 2022, 12:10:07 PM
"It’s important to note that Twitter has long cultivated a culture of internal dissent: “Communicate fearlessly to build trust.”

No internal codes of conduct have changed since Elon took over."

Free speech is back!
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on November 15, 2022, 01:41:53 PM
Elon should outsource twitter to india
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 15, 2022, 02:01:49 PM
Cancel culture is out of control

https://mobile.twitter.com/CaseyNewton/status/1592539948745650176

in times like this I'm reminded of the old social media refrain: freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences

(https://i.imgur.com/6a2HFI3.png)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 15, 2022, 02:20:21 PM
Many people don't seem to understand that freedom of speech means the government won't censor you. It does not mean that private corporations can't restrict your speech.
Anyway, when Musk was rambling about bringing back "free speech" to Twitter, of course he only meant for himself.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 15, 2022, 02:21:40 PM
Many people don't seem to understand that freedom of speech means the government won't censor you. It does not mean that private corporations can't restrict your speech.
Musk probably didn't get this either when he claimed he'd bring back "free speech" to Twitter.

right, feel free to say whatever you like in the company Slack, you have total freedom of speech, just be prepared to accept the consequences

 :elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on November 15, 2022, 02:29:06 PM
Its pretty fucking  :brain to be shit talking elon on the company forums if you don't want to get fired when he's shown himself to be petty enough to personally call people out for writing shit code on twitter after laying them off
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on November 15, 2022, 02:48:56 PM
Again and again Twatter people are exposed as being unprofessional idiots.

Did they not notice management changed and he was doing things differently?

Just because you used to be able to criticise your bosses doesn't mean you will continue to be able to do that under new ownership.

Read the fucking room you idiots.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 15, 2022, 03:07:34 PM
Are the people he fires entitled to severance packages?
If so, getting kicked out now may not be the worst thing. There is lots of demand for software engineers.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 15, 2022, 06:41:20 PM
https://gizmodo.com/mastodon-toot-retired-twitter-tweet-equivalent-1849786221

Urge to install my own Mastodon instance rising :idont
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 15, 2022, 06:46:22 PM
Are the people he fires entitled to severance packages?
If so, getting kicked out now may not be the worst thing. There is lots of demand for software engineers.
Other than any minor legal requirements by the state this would depend on their contract if they have one. While tech companies are often unique, Twitter is old enough and has been public long enough that I would assume only the executives have them. Although that one guy had been there for a while he still seems to be more of a random engineer from what I saw.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 15, 2022, 06:47:18 PM
https://gizmodo.com/mastodon-toot-retired-twitter-tweet-equivalent-1849786221

Urge to install my own Mastodon instance rising :idont
Quote
Eugen Rochko, the software’s German creator, explained amid a flood of new users this month that he’d adopted the word “toot” early on at the urging of a popular Youtuber who’d offered him financial support as long as he continued using the term, which in addition to describing the noise created by a horn is — in American English at least — a synonym for the word “fart.”

Rochko said at the time he was unaware of the connotation.
Gross.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 15, 2022, 06:48:15 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1592582828499570688 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1592582828499570688)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 15, 2022, 07:04:55 PM
Are the people he fires entitled to severance packages?
If so, getting kicked out now may not be the worst thing. There is lots of demand for software engineers.

With Twitter, Facebook and Amazon laying off thousands the competition is probably not that much fun right now
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Polident Hive on November 15, 2022, 08:14:51 PM
Yeah. Desperate throws to make Twitter firings, or losing free lunches or whatever, sympathetic human rights issues is falling flat when Meta and Amazon are rocking higher rates. It’s pretty bad all around. But the focus is on Musk atm so nobody cares about those other billionaires.

Well, that’s not all true. Some bought the fluff piece about Bezos giving away his money. See, some billionaire tech giants are real ones! To pee in a bottle on the job is to pee for Bezos!
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 15, 2022, 09:45:36 PM
https://twitter.com/EclipseShade69/status/1592689786049159168
https://twitter.com/thebeepthemeep/status/1592691821217746944
https://twitter.com/JoeyBFutureMVP/status/1592688742846050305
https://twitter.com/jimmyfallon/status/1592707609513324545
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 16, 2022, 11:17:58 AM
Worlds smartest man

https://mobile.twitter.com/themaxburns/status/1592907779316252672
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 16, 2022, 11:38:02 AM
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1592871281153650688

The way he's running the company is truly hilarious.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tuckers Law on November 16, 2022, 11:41:30 AM
https://twitter.com/EclipseShade69/status/1592689786049159168
https://twitter.com/thebeepthemeep/status/1592691821217746944
https://twitter.com/JoeyBFutureMVP/status/1592688742846050305
https://twitter.com/jimmyfallon/status/1592707609513324545

 :lol

I love this.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 16, 2022, 12:53:39 PM
https://twitter.com/donie/status/1592859900941852674
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 16, 2022, 12:56:44 PM
honestly should have led with this form initially and THEN done the mass firing once you weeded out the people who aren't hardcore
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 16, 2022, 01:32:31 PM
The lazy ones will hate this, those that want to go hardcore will only be more commited to the cause.
Those willing to work also know that rewards await them. Historically people that worked at Elon's companies have been well compensated for the work they did.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on November 16, 2022, 01:51:53 PM
Me going hardcore to optimise Yum Brands ad clickthrough rates on twitter
 :dsp
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on November 16, 2022, 02:01:36 PM
https://twitter.com/greenTetra_/status/1592914266117795840
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on November 16, 2022, 02:46:17 PM
honestly should have led with this form initially and THEN done the mass firing once you weeded out the people who aren't hardcore

While I don’t think it is good in the long run (San Francisco hipster engineers are not exactly cool with work),he definitely should have done that . Avoids most of the bad press and filters everyone that is not a loyalist (what I suppose he wants) willing to sleep at the floor.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 16, 2022, 03:01:38 PM
WTF would anyone stay?

The whole reason to crunch is for a massive payoff via an IPO or being bought by Google.

Or, in very specific cases, working "for the greater good" if youre into the "Mars for humanity" style dream.

Twitter offers neither.

Everyone knows he massively overpaid, so if he offloads it, it would be for significantly less.

And ranting about "potential bankruptcy" and slashing costs left and right doesnt exactly spell "big payoff soon".

Unless youre on a visa, "work 12 hour days so people can pay money to shitpost" is nobodies dream.

And while Elon is all about the "impending recession" talk, none of that is reflected in the data. Hiring is still robust. Walmart just reported very high sales. The big news about Amazon firing people? 1.2%.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on November 16, 2022, 03:21:05 PM
People really are that stupid James. They really are.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 16, 2022, 03:29:39 PM
People really are that stupid James. They really are.

https://twitter.com/realGeorgeHotz/status/1592955427179765760
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on November 16, 2022, 03:45:05 PM
WTF would anyone stay?

The whole reason to crunch is for a massive payoff via an IPO or being bought by Google.

Or, in very specific cases, working "for the greater good" if youre into the "Mars for humanity" style dream.

Twitter offers neither.

Everyone knows he massively overpaid, so if he offloads it, it would be for significantly less.

And ranting about "potential bankruptcy" and slashing costs left and right doesnt exactly spell "big payoff soon".

Unless youre on a visa, "work 12 hour days so people can pay money to shitpost" is nobodies dream.

And while Elon is all about the "impending recession" talk, none of that is reflected in the data. Hiring is still robust. Walmart just reported very high sales. The big news about Amazon firing people? 1.2%.

If Musk wanted a bunch of employees to work long hours with low pay, he should’ve just bought ResetEra.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 16, 2022, 05:35:48 PM
https://twitter.com/greenTetra_/status/1592914266117795840

:lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 16, 2022, 05:55:23 PM
Musk makes the same "hardcore" directive at every company and has since at least X.com. He has never outlined exactly what this means and I get the impression none of the management at any of the companies is actually ensuring the employees are in fact hardcore.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 16, 2022, 06:02:00 PM
Yeah it seems more like a rally the troops kind of thing. He also sets the example by working hard. Classic Musk move.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 17, 2022, 08:18:45 PM
sounds like serious shit going down right now, mass walk out protest?

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/17/tech/twitter-employees-ultimatum-deadline

someone said 500k tweets with the hashtag #riptwitter?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on November 17, 2022, 08:31:05 PM
What if Twitter implodes and everyone comes to TheBore for their social media fix?? Can our servers handle it? 
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 17, 2022, 08:36:22 PM
This forum software can't even handle returning a large search result to a single user without momentarily hitching the site up for everyone lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 17, 2022, 08:45:03 PM
total staffing is down 89%?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: headwalk on November 17, 2022, 09:07:18 PM
i feel like the robot machine god who elon serves has serverely underestimated the human capacity to not work any harder than they absolutely have to. laziness will deliver us like the common cold in war of the worlds.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 17, 2022, 09:10:53 PM
Called it. The only incentive to stay was a visa and you can bet they've been sending out resumes as fast as they can

https://mobile.twitter.com/kyliebytes/status/1593391954976382979
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 18, 2022, 12:06:52 AM
Hahahaha! Looks like he overplayed his hand. Good for them! Who wouldn't want to work for a fickle narcissist who went to the Kim Jong-Un School of Leadership? So what's Elmo going to do now? Fire everyone else as announced or give in and become even more of a laughing stock?

Maybe some of the weird nerds who keep coming to his defense are coders who would like to worship him from up close?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 18, 2022, 12:28:33 AM
Who wouldn't want to work for a fickle narcissist who went to the Kim Jong-Un School of Leadership? So what's Elmo going to do now?
You really got to stop picking up all your lingo from BlueAnon orbiting grifters my man. :jeanluc
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 18, 2022, 12:32:27 AM
You mean "Elmo"? I thought it was funny. I wouldn't have known about it if it hadn't been posted in this very thread; I do not waste my time following these people around.

Edit: It's purportedly become his nickname inside the company, too:
https://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-insiders-users-calling-elon-musk-by-the-nickname-elmo-2022-11?op=1
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on November 18, 2022, 12:40:22 AM
I thought Elno was far more clever and insulting. El-no, Hell-no...you get my drift...

 :elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 18, 2022, 12:45:03 AM
I do not waste my time following these people around.
You'll forgive me if I'm skeptical of this considering how much you post all their favorite scams like The Lincoln Project and are often on about every topic they are. BIONIC (and others) probably wishes I would refrain from telling people when they're being openly "cringe" anyway so they keep doing it.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 18, 2022, 12:58:49 AM
How would you know, do you follow them around? As you may have noticed, I do not even participate in the Other Forums Containment thread (I haven't been to Resetera in many years.) Maybe all this exposure to awfulness is starting to warp your perception? I have no idea what the favorite scams of the "BlueAnon orbiting grifters" are.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on November 18, 2022, 01:12:23 AM
I do not waste my time following these people around.
You'll forgive me if I'm skeptical of this considering how much you post all their favorite scams like The Lincoln Project and are often on about every topic they are. BIONIC (and others) probably wishes I would refrain from telling people when they're being openly "cringe" anyway so they keep doing it.

I always call him Elno Muskrat because I’m hip with the kids  :dice
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 18, 2022, 01:12:49 AM
Every single one of these people (https://tinyurl.com/yt3jaavd), everyone associated with The Lincoln Project, a hilarious number of the Democratic PACs out there, an endless number of self-declared journalists, etc.

edit: TinyURL'd so tweet won't embed, it's just a link to a tweet full of usernames and a picture, nothing nefarious.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 18, 2022, 01:36:18 AM
While you wrote this I made a post about it in the US politics thread, this really doesn't belong here.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 18, 2022, 01:37:43 AM
I think it is relevant here in one way, while I was just poking fun at the language you used, a lot of these people seem to think they're actually influential on and because of Twitter.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 18, 2022, 01:42:36 AM
That would be delusional.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 18, 2022, 03:22:01 AM
Anyway, if all the employees who were fired/left got together now, they'd presumably have enough knowledge/manpower to immediately start a new company like Twitter. Except without Musk. Wouldn't that be hilarious?

Edit: Hundreds more have have resigned.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/17/technology/twitter-elon-musk-ftc.html

Quote
Resignations Roil Twitter as Elon Musk Tries Persuading Some Workers to Stay

Mr. Musk, Twitter’s new owner, had given employees a Thursday deadline to decide whether to leave or stay “to build a breakthrough Twitter 2.0.”

Or like I wrote above, they could leave and build Twitter 2.0 (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_u5pE7eoPrfI/THcQD0UAczI/AAAAAAAAAAM/fD95-BMUDwk/s320/400px-Trollface_HD.jpg)

Quote
Mr. Musk and his advisers held meetings with some Twitter workers whom they deemed “critical” to stop them from leaving, four people with knowledge of the conversations said. He sent out confusing messages about the company’s remote work policy, appearing to soften his stance on not allowing people to work from home before warning their managers, according to those people and internal emails viewed by The New York Times.

All the while, two people said, resignations started to roll in. By the deadline, 5 p.m. Eastern time, hundreds of Twitter employees appeared to have decided to depart with three months of severance pay, the people said. Twitter later announced via email that it would close “our office buildings” and disable employee badge access until Monday.

(https://i.ibb.co/HC8c85L/Fhzp-Mo-CWYAEp2-Hh.jpg)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 18, 2022, 04:09:51 AM
https://twitter.com/SamAdlerBell/status/1593463977824071681
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 18, 2022, 04:13:30 AM
I don't really understand what Musk was planning there.

"Alright we're going hardcore, if you don't like that you can quit"

*People quit*

Musk:  :pika

Either he's truly an idiot or he wanted people to quit
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 18, 2022, 06:38:45 AM
I don't really understand what Musk was planning there.

"Alright we're going hardcore, if you don't like that you can quit"

*People quit*

Musk:  :pika

Either he's truly an idiot or he wanted people to quit

yeah really I'm not sure if the pikachu part happened

"reportedly" he "tearfully begged" some employees to stay "while on his hands and knees"

but in advance of his takeover at various times he'd said he wanted to gut 75-90% of the workforce

it's just there are longer term, less chaotic ways of doing so, but he's getting what he said he wanted and tweeting for attention the whole way
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 18, 2022, 08:05:59 AM
In a twist shocking no one, turns out that Musk is a fraud who has been lying about having a scientific degree for decades and actually was in the USA illegally for a few years.
Someone took the time to research this using publicly available court documents:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1593307541932474368.html
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BisMarckie on November 18, 2022, 08:13:38 AM
In a twist shocking no one, turns out that Musk is a fraud who has been lying about having a scientific degree for decades and actually was in the USA illegally for a few years.
Someone took the time to research this using publicly available court documents:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1593307541932474368.html

Pretty sure that's doxxing according to bluechecks on twitter :ufup
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on November 18, 2022, 09:10:37 AM
In a twist shocking no one, turns out that Musk is a fraud who has been lying about having a scientific degree for decades and actually was in the USA illegally for a few years.
Someone took the time to research this using publicly available court documents:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1593307541932474368.html

Pretty sure that's doxxing according to bluechecks on twitter :ufup
Blue checks don't like Musk so it doesn't count to them
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 18, 2022, 11:15:12 AM
Occam read the room, man.  If you want to contribute maybe try a platitude like: Elon has a history of high expectations and exploiting workers.  It's pretty  :brain for Twitter employees to think that they wouldn't be treated just the same as someone working at Tesla and Space-X, despite never agreeing to work for those companies.  This really just shows how entitled and unprofessional these people are for publicly complaining about being expected to work harder and cover for all the people who just got fired.  Also, as a twitter user myself, I know for certain that they could have been working harder in any case.  Like imagine publicly advocating for fair working conditions and not expect any consequences.  The worst thing in all this is the tweets from SJWs exaggerating the situation, not the situation visa workers who can't leave now face.   
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 18, 2022, 11:36:51 AM
My whole take on the situation is that at first I really didn't like this Musk guy, but then I saw a tweet where some loony compared his take over to apartheid, and now I just don't know what to think.  Like clearly all sides are awful, but it's kind of nice when one of the most powerful people in the world can give a little push back, you know?  Anyways, I think the rational position here is just to say that the world is as it is and anyone who expects anything different is nuts. 
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 18, 2022, 11:48:07 AM
Oh, I just ventured into the Culture War thread and saw 100 more loony tweets shared by the best people.  Kinda low key rooting for Musk now.  It's funny how I'm generally anti-establishment and for workers but, those Twitter people man.  I know just the kind of people they are and I don't like them. 

I'm a pretty smart guy and to have my opinion changed so easily by the tweets from a bunch of terminally online losses really says something about them.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 18, 2022, 12:01:27 PM
At first you didn't like him but then you saw the tweet by a crazy person and that changed your mind? [Edit, oh, you were joking].

Anyway, lots of people were critical of Musk before all this, and then he went ahead and showed everyone that they all underestimated his awfulness.

Back on topic, I read that by now some ~90 percent of Twitter's engineers are gone and that it will not be possible to keep running Twitter for long this way. We'll find out soon enough.

Yesterday Twitter
Quote
announced via email that it would close “our office buildings” and disable employee badge access until Monday.
(NYT)
That's totally normal.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 18, 2022, 12:13:48 PM
The panic about twitter dying is a bit curious. Pretty anecdotal but going by my follows it's mainly Americans who talk about how it's basically over while for Europeans it's just another day.

Also, while I'm not really sure if Musk knows what he's doing, this could be an interesting experiment in how many workers a social media website really needs

https://twitter.com/ChrisJBakke/status/1593622087603625988
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 18, 2022, 12:18:56 PM
https://twitter.com/ZoeSchiffer/status/1593649356661436417

https://twitter.com/ZoeSchiffer/status/1593652897236934656
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 18, 2022, 12:28:05 PM
Is Elon alone in the building?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 18, 2022, 01:05:32 PM
https://twitter.com/ZoeSchiffer/status/1593665774744350721

 :doge
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 18, 2022, 01:09:36 PM
Getting on their private jets right now and flying over really is the least they could do to show how much they appreciate dear leader.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on November 18, 2022, 01:09:58 PM
How long until

"twitter has suffered a massive hack / user data breach"

?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 18, 2022, 01:16:16 PM
https://twitter.com/SamAdlerBell/status/1593463977824071681

Literally my train of thought watching this clown car pileup. You are all hypocrites. :foldarms
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 18, 2022, 01:19:49 PM
The panic about twitter dying is a bit curious. Pretty anecdotal but going by my follows it's mainly Americans who talk about how it's basically over while for Europeans it's just another day.

Also, while I'm not really sure if Musk knows what he's doing, this could be an interesting experiment in how many workers a social media website really needs

https://twitter.com/ChrisJBakke/status/1593622087603625988

Context of this screenshot (Succession): Kieran accidentally sent his dad a dick pic, and this was him realizing it

One of the funniest moments in s2 :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 18, 2022, 01:21:50 PM
Also not really comparable. Twitter has one product, a flimsy social network.

At a high level, Google is search, Android and YouTube. Each one of those is bigger than Twitter by number of active users.

The OS development alone for Android and Chrome OS actually does require the engineers thrown at them. Fuchsia probably isn't long for this world though.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 18, 2022, 01:24:25 PM
Be a Nintex-type

Be offered 3 months of free money to enjoy the holidays

Decline the offer, "Im hardcore, I will stay and make this app cool"

18 hours later, Musk demands that you be in SF within the next 4 hours or youre fired. You live 11 hours away and the next flight is tomorrow.

:pika
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 18, 2022, 01:25:29 PM
How long until

"twitter has suffered a massive hack / user data breach"

?

Foreign nations have been caught bribing Twitter employees in order to exfiltrate sensitive data on dissidents. This is a fact. Twitter employees were indicted.

Wonder how much easier that all is going to be now...
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 18, 2022, 01:38:36 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1593673844996288512
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 18, 2022, 02:06:42 PM
Elon is probably in the process of outsourcing much of the Twitter operations to India or some other cheap dev country if he hasn't already.

Those waiting for Twitter to go down will be dissapointed when he can find folks who will keep it running for $1 /hour


https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1593680546571616256 (https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1593680546571616256)

:rejoice

https://twitter.com/m_franceschetti/status/1593466280551620609 (https://twitter.com/m_franceschetti/status/1593466280551620609)
:hesright
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: bork on November 18, 2022, 02:21:05 PM
Is Elon alone in the building?

Musk right now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2UVsyVLLcE

:cruise :elon :cruise :elon :cruise :elon :cruise
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on November 18, 2022, 02:27:04 PM
Yawn, he’s a fucking coward.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1593681389937102851

Take him down Jones!
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 18, 2022, 02:43:52 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1593673844996288512

Cool, looks completely fair and balanced.  Note sure how any 'side' could have issue with this.  Wonder who Trump gets traded for.   Also remember how five pages back, people where like it's day one of the take over and he hasn't made any changes to the moderation policy, guess all the SJWs are over reacting, who would have though? 
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 18, 2022, 02:54:05 PM
If you were Trump, what would you first tweet back be?

I would say "The 2020 election was stolen and the proof is in Hunters laptop"
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on November 18, 2022, 03:07:29 PM

Cool, looks completely fair and balanced.  Note sure how any 'side' could have issue with this.

What side is he on? Isn't he a Democrat?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 18, 2022, 03:09:16 PM
Quote
One worker who wanted to resign said she had spent two days looking for her manager, whose identity she no longer knew because so many people had quit in the days beforehand. After finally finding her direct supervisor, she tendered her resignation. The next day, her supervisor also quit.

 :neogaf
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 18, 2022, 03:16:22 PM
If you were Trump, what would you first tweet back be?

I would say "The 2020 election was stolen and the proof is in Hunters laptop"

I'd call Elmo Muskrat a little bitch :trumps
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on November 18, 2022, 03:20:03 PM
Quote
One worker who wanted to resign said she had spent two days looking for her manager, whose identity she no longer knew because so many people had quit in the days beforehand. After finally finding her direct supervisor, she tendered her resignation. The next day, her supervisor also quit.

 :neogaf

fugg that, keep cashing the pay and go get another job
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 18, 2022, 03:26:26 PM
yeah this is THE time to remain on payroll and let the automated systems keep you afloat, just hide in the empty maze of the building somewhere until they stop paying you
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on November 18, 2022, 03:29:32 PM
Going to be interesting to see if people like Kathy Griffin actually return to Twatter or not.

Having any semblance of pride or self respect world say absolutely not, but you just know someone like her has none and will be back to soak up all the attention from the sycophants and proclaiming she's doing it for democracy or some other shit...
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on November 18, 2022, 03:34:40 PM
She got banned for impersonating Elon to say ‘donate to democrats’ and then used her dead mom’s account to complain.
She’ll 100% be tweeting again by tomorrow.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 18, 2022, 03:43:52 PM
If you were Trump, what would you first tweet back be?

I would say "The 2020 election was stolen and the proof is in Hunters laptop"
@realDonaldTrump
"Don't be sad about Crazy Nancy losing her job she now has more time to spend with her husband. I hear a lot of gentlemens "CLUBS" in New York are saddened by this news as well as many on Wall Street"

*THIS ACCOUNT IS PERMENANTLY SUSPENDED*
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 18, 2022, 03:53:22 PM
She got banned for impersonating Elon to say ‘donate to democrats’ and then used her dead mom’s account to complain.
She’ll 100% be tweeting again by tomorrow.

And it will be embarrassing because I have seen so many liberals tweet that they are leaving only to comeback.  Like I have no idea who said what at this point, but I do have a vague sense of hypocrisy permeating the entire group of them. 
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on November 18, 2022, 03:57:26 PM
yeah this is THE time to remain on payroll and let the automated systems keep you afloat, just hide in the empty maze of the building somewhere until they stop paying you

I'd be in the kitchen stuffing all the cinnabuns and ketchup packets in a plastic Shoprite bag before they notice im not employed anymore.  you know these tech companies have great amenities.  they got the Heinz packets, none of that Hunts shit.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 18, 2022, 04:02:46 PM
She got banned for impersonating Elon to say ‘donate to democrats’ and then used her dead mom’s account to complain.
She’ll 100% be tweeting again by tomorrow.

And it will be embarrassing because I have seen so many liberals tweet that they are leaving only to comeback.  Like I have no idea who said what at this point, but I do have a vague sense of hypocrisy permeating the entire group of them.

Attention is a hell of a drug :elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 18, 2022, 04:03:57 PM
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“May harm our business” is an understatement. Failure to adhere to Apple and Google’s guidelines would be catastrophic, risking Twitter’s expulsion from their app stores and making it more difficult for billions of potential users to access Twitter’s services. This gives Apple and Google enormous power to shape the decisions Twitter makes.
Apple’s guidelines for developers are reasonable and plainly stated: They emphasize creating “a safe experience for users” and stress the importance of protecting children. The guidelines quote the Supreme Court justice Potter Stewart’s “I know it when I see it” quip, saying the company will ban apps that are “over the line.”

In practice, the enforcement of these rules is fraught.

In my time at Twitter, representatives of the app stores regularly raised concerns about content available on our platform. On one occasion, a member of an app review team contacted Twitter, saying with consternation that he had searched for “#boobs” in the Twitter app and was presented with … exactly what you’d expect. Another time, on the eve of a major feature release, a reviewer sent screenshots of several days-old tweets containing an English-language racial slur, asking Twitter representatives whether they should be permitted to appear on the service.

Reviewers hint that app approval could be delayed or perhaps even withheld entirely if issues are not resolved to their satisfaction — although the standards for resolution are often inferred. Even as they appear to be driven largely by manual checks and anecdotes, these review procedures have the power to derail company road maps and trigger all-hands-on-deck crises for weeks or months at a time.

Whose values are these companies defending when they enforce their policies? While the wide array of often conflicting global laws no doubt play a part, the most direct explanation is that platform policies represent the preferences of a small group of predominantly American tech executives. Steve Jobs didn’t believe porn should be allowed in the App Store, and so it isn’t allowed. Stripped bare, there’s a dismaying lack of legitimacy to the decisions here.

It’s this very lack of legitimacy that Mr. Musk, correctly, points to when he calls for greater free speech, and for the establishment of a “content moderation council” to guide the company’s policies — an idea Google and Apple would be right to borrow for the governance of their app stores. But even as he criticizes the capriciousness of platform policies, he perpetuates this same lack of legitimacy through his impulsive changes and tweet-length pronouncements about Twitter’s rules. In appointing himself “Chief Twit,” Mr. Musk has made clear that at the end of the day, he’ll be the one calling the shots.

It was for this reason that I ultimately chose to leave the company: A Twitter whose policies are defined by unilateral edict has little need for a trust and safety function dedicated to its principled development.

So where will Twitter go from here? Some of the company’s decisions in the weeks and months to come, like the near-certainty of allowing Donald Trump’s account back on the service, will have an immediate, perceptible impact. But to truly understand the shape of Twitter going forward, I’d encourage looking not just at the choices the company makes but at how Mr. Musk makes them. Should it materialize, will the moderation council represent more than just the loudest, predominantly American voices complaining about censorship — including, critically, the approximately 80 percent of Twitter users who reside outside of the United States? Will the company continue to invest in features like Community Notes, which bring Twitter users into the work of platform governance? Will Mr. Musk’s tweets announcing policy changes become less frequent and abrupt?

Longer term, the moderating influences of advertisers, regulators and — most critically of all — app stores may be welcome for those of us hoping to avoid an escalation in the volume of dangerous speech online. Twitter will have to balance its new owner’s goals against the practical realities of life on Apple and Google’s internet — no easy task for the employees who have chosen to remain. And as I departed the company, the calls from the app review teams had already begun.
By Yoel Roth
Mr. Roth is the former head of trust and safety at Twitter.

https://archive.ph/2022.11.18-193802/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/18/opinion/twitter-yoel-roth-elon-musk.html#selection-665.0-717.478
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on November 18, 2022, 04:07:59 PM
Didn't take too long to go straight to the New York Times.   :lol  Geeze, maybe wait a few months as a courtesy to see if things iron out or if that 'unilateral edict' thing was true?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 18, 2022, 04:08:14 PM
Twitter is collapsing

(https://i.imgur.com/K3DXP3j.png)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 18, 2022, 04:38:20 PM
She got banned for impersonating Elon to say ‘donate to democrats’ and then used her dead mom’s account to complain.
She’ll 100% be tweeting again by tomorrow.

And it will be embarrassing because I have seen so many liberals tweet that they are leaving only to comeback.  Like I have no idea who said what at this point, but I do have a vague sense of hypocrisy permeating the entire group of them.

Attention is a hell of a drug :elon

Yep, for both those receiving and those giving it seems.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 18, 2022, 05:08:36 PM
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One team known as Twitter Command Center, a 20-person organization crucial to preventing outages and technology failures during high-traffic events, had multiple people from around the world resign, two former employees said. The “core services” team, which handles computing architecture, was cut to four people from more than 100. Other teams that deal with how media appears in tweets or how profiles show follower counts were down to zero people.
(NYT)

Good thing Musk can simply hire Indian engineers for $1 an hour next week to immediately take over. I presume all of this is pretty self-explanatory. Not sure why he even kept four people of the core services team, that seems a bit wasteful.

@Uncle
You were right, I was totally looking at this the wrong way. The ideal size of each team is of course zero. Now that is smart business and was certainly the plan all along! Think of all the money that can be saved this way, the acquisition will basically pay for itself by the end of the month.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 18, 2022, 05:30:46 PM
People that dislike Twitter can always go back to Facebook :trumps
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 18, 2022, 05:41:17 PM
Im not a tech person, so I really have no concept as to how many engineers are needed to keep a website running.

For comparison, how many software engineers work full time at The Bore? How many were added to handle new registrations when that was opened up? How big is our health and safety team?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 18, 2022, 05:49:19 PM
All the blue checks are literally like

RIP Twitter I hope a better alternative emerges, I'm just gonna sit here in protest until it does  :hmph
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on November 18, 2022, 06:12:39 PM
Im not a tech person, so I really have no concept as to how many engineers are needed to keep a website running.

For comparison, how many software engineers work full time at The Bore? How many were added to handle new registrations when that was opened up? How big is our health and safety team?

Just one.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a6/b8/62/a6b86227a792848c8018c7654dc41fdc.gif)

I think he took his severance earlier this year though.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on November 18, 2022, 06:18:18 PM
Great Tumblr  :girlaff
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 18, 2022, 06:18:27 PM
Quote
In my time at Twitter, representatives of the app stores regularly raised concerns about content available on our platform. On one occasion, a member of an app review team contacted Twitter, saying with consternation that he had searched for “#boobs” in the Twitter app and was presented with … exactly what you’d expect.

We used to be a society
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on November 18, 2022, 06:28:03 PM
Im not a tech person, so I really have no concept as to how many engineers are needed to keep a website running.

For comparison, how many software engineers work full time at The Bore? How many were added to handle new registrations when that was opened up? How big is our health and safety team?

Just one.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a6/b8/62/a6b86227a792848c8018c7654dc41fdc.gif)

I think he took his severance earlier this year though.

(https://i.imgflip.com/71c8jq.jpg)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on November 18, 2022, 06:37:14 PM
Imagine fucking Nintex being the hill you choose to die on.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 18, 2022, 06:59:55 PM
Many have died on that hill :salute
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 18, 2022, 07:09:55 PM
https://twitter.com/jimcramer/status/1593731870415818753 (https://twitter.com/jimcramer/status/1593731870415818753)

RIP Twitter
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 18, 2022, 07:16:21 PM
Occam read the room, man.  If you want to contribute maybe try a platitude like: Elon has a history of high expectations and exploiting workers.  It's pretty  :brain for Twitter employees to think that they wouldn't be treated just the same as someone working at Tesla and Space-X, despite never agreeing to work for those companies.  This really just shows how entitled and unprofessional these people are for publicly complaining about being expected to work harder and cover for all the people who just got fired.  Also, as a twitter user myself, I know for certain that they could have been working harder in any case.  Like imagine publicly advocating for fair working conditions and not expect any consequences.  The worst thing in all this is the tweets from SJWs exaggerating the situation, not the situation visa workers who can't leave now face.
My whole take on the situation is that at first I really didn't like this Musk guy, but then I saw a tweet where some loony compared his take over to apartheid, and now I just don't know what to think.  Like clearly all sides are awful, but it's kind of nice when one of the most powerful people in the world can give a little push back, you know?  Anyways, I think the rational position here is just to say that the world is as it is and anyone who expects anything different is nuts.
Oh, I just ventured into the Culture War thread and saw 100 more loony tweets shared by the best people.  Kinda low key rooting for Musk now.  It's funny how I'm generally anti-establishment and for workers but, those Twitter people man.  I know just the kind of people they are and I don't like them. 

I'm a pretty smart guy and to have my opinion changed so easily by the tweets from a bunch of terminally online losses really says something about them.
Cool, looks completely fair and balanced.  Note sure how any 'side' could have issue with this.  Wonder who Trump gets traded for.   Also remember how five pages back, people where like it's day one of the take over and he hasn't made any changes to the moderation policy, guess all the SJWs are over reacting, who would have though?
And it will be embarrassing because I have seen so many liberals tweet that they are leaving only to comeback.  Like I have no idea who said what at this point, but I do have a vague sense of hypocrisy permeating the entire group of them.
So should I put in the newspaper that you're mad or not?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 18, 2022, 07:32:30 PM
https://twitter.com/anally_retended/status/1593606850762637313
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on November 18, 2022, 07:45:08 PM
Imagine fucking Nintex

 :anhuld
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on November 18, 2022, 07:46:30 PM
Occam read the room, man.  If you want to contribute maybe try a platitude like: Elon has a history of high expectations and exploiting workers.  It's pretty  :brain for Twitter employees to think that they wouldn't be treated just the same as someone working at Tesla and Space-X, despite never agreeing to work for those companies.  This really just shows how entitled and unprofessional these people are for publicly complaining about being expected to work harder and cover for all the people who just got fired.  Also, as a twitter user myself, I know for certain that they could have been working harder in any case.  Like imagine publicly advocating for fair working conditions and not expect any consequences.  The worst thing in all this is the tweets from SJWs exaggerating the situation, not the situation visa workers who can't leave now face.
My whole take on the situation is that at first I really didn't like this Musk guy, but then I saw a tweet where some loony compared his take over to apartheid, and now I just don't know what to think.  Like clearly all sides are awful, but it's kind of nice when one of the most powerful people in the world can give a little push back, you know?  Anyways, I think the rational position here is just to say that the world is as it is and anyone who expects anything different is nuts.
Oh, I just ventured into the Culture War thread and saw 100 more loony tweets shared by the best people.  Kinda low key rooting for Musk now.  It's funny how I'm generally anti-establishment and for workers but, those Twitter people man.  I know just the kind of people they are and I don't like them. 

I'm a pretty smart guy and to have my opinion changed so easily by the tweets from a bunch of terminally online losses really says something about them.
Cool, looks completely fair and balanced.  Note sure how any 'side' could have issue with this.  Wonder who Trump gets traded for.   Also remember how five pages back, people where like it's day one of the take over and he hasn't made any changes to the moderation policy, guess all the SJWs are over reacting, who would have though?
And it will be embarrassing because I have seen so many liberals tweet that they are leaving only to comeback.  Like I have no idea who said what at this point, but I do have a vague sense of hypocrisy permeating the entire group of them.
So should I put in the newspaper that you're mad or not?
He's not mad, he's just having a bad run is all...

 :letsfukk
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 18, 2022, 07:49:33 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1593767953706921985 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1593767953706921985)

:rejoice

Already ~200k votes at 65/35
100k more votes in literally seconds
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on November 18, 2022, 07:55:54 PM
Imagine fucking Nintex

 :freeze

Fixed
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 18, 2022, 07:57:00 PM
nah my friends call me mad, but you should quote me as mr bad in your paper benji.  Or use my given name of father mike. 
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 18, 2022, 07:57:11 PM
500k votes 64/36

Early vote looking good but still a lot of blue check vote left

This poll is gonna break the internet.
https://twitter.com/wallstmemes/status/1593770689638678528 (https://twitter.com/wallstmemes/status/1593770689638678528)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 18, 2022, 08:49:07 PM
nah my friends call me mad, but you should quote me as mr bad in your paper benji.  Or use my given name of father mike. 
It appears I have been let go from the paper from talking about its operations publicly on the internet.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 18, 2022, 09:26:02 PM
yeah this is THE time to remain on payroll and let the automated systems keep you afloat, just hide in the empty maze of the building somewhere until they stop paying you

(https://y.yarn.co/c408497d-c51d-43b8-939d-5f8c0d9553d7_text.gif)

Twit employee: "It's like Hitler's last days here!"
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 18, 2022, 09:28:01 PM
Imagine fucking Nintex

 :freeze

Fixed

 :nope

Imagine Nintex getting fucked

 :freeze

Fixed

:ohyeah
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 18, 2022, 09:29:58 PM
Quote
In my time at Twitter, representatives of the app stores regularly raised concerns about content available on our platform. On one occasion, a member of an app review team contacted Twitter, saying with consternation that he had searched for “#boobs” in the Twitter app and was presented with … exactly what you’d expect.

We used to be a society

Honestly this further demonstrates Twitter's technical incompetency. Somehow bewbs and penor are harder to find on YouTube and Google SafeSearch... :idont And those two don't even have hashtags explicitly telling the algorithm the content of the post... (I mean YouTube does have hashtags for uploads, but someone uploading porn doesn't tag it "#porn" like someone on Twitter would.)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 18, 2022, 09:39:43 PM
Honestly this further demonstrates Twitter's technical incompetency. Somehow bewbs and penor are harder to find on YouTube and Google SafeSearch... :idont And those two don't even have hashtags explicitly telling the algorithm the content of the post... (I mean YouTube does have hashtags for uploads, but someone uploading porn doesn't tag it "#porn" like someone on Twitter would.)
I don't see it as technical incompetency necessarily as much as different priorities. Google's goal is to scan everything in existence and identify it. Twitter's goal is... uh... well, let me get back to you on that if the new owner ever figures one out and sticks to it longer than a few hours.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 18, 2022, 10:02:51 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1593767953706921985 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1593767953706921985)

:rejoice

Already ~200k votes at 65/35
100k more votes in literally seconds

When Donald Trump loses the next election, pillow guy is going to cite this poll as his main exhibit in his court filing
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 18, 2022, 10:09:33 PM
When Donald Trump loses the next election, pillow guy is going to cite this poll as his main exhibit in his court filing
You seriously think he'd believe a poll run on MACHINES?!?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 19, 2022, 12:28:37 AM
The advertising contact person is gone

https://twitter.com/robinw/status/1593777614983872512
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 19, 2022, 12:50:09 AM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1593673339826212864
james, what's your Twitter account? I am going to report every single tweet as "negative" including anything you retweet. Especially if it's Splatoon art.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 19, 2022, 03:46:08 AM
The vote stands at 53 / 47 with ~7 million votes in.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 19, 2022, 06:38:24 AM
Elon Musk has put the engineers and developers back in charge again.
That's why all the managers he fired hate him.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fh6qtzdVIAAsIlA?format=jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fh6qtzYVUAI5aYv?format=jpg)

Trump at 10 million votes, he dropped to 52 but has increased to 52.5 again.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on November 19, 2022, 06:41:05 AM
Hey Elon, those guys don't look very hardcore to me, they just look like nerds.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 19, 2022, 06:47:34 AM
Alex Jones responds to Musk, different than you might expect.

https://twitter.com/Lukewearechange/status/1593768439767699457 (https://twitter.com/Lukewearechange/status/1593768439767699457)

Hey Elon, those guys don't look very hardcore to me, they just look like nerds.
Tech has been inflitrated by fake nerds for way too long.
I remember when we had to WFH during COVID and one of our designers didn't even have a decent PC, headset or monitor at home.

Even my brother who is in game development had to arrange GPU's and PC's for his level designers.
It's like being a professional race driver but not owning a car.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 19, 2022, 07:56:14 AM
https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1593790066987442176

This had me look up the evidence that Trump incited the riot on Twitter and it seems... quite flimsy? https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/12/23205723/donald-trump-twitter-tweets-january-6th-us-capitol-rally-riot-stop-the-steal
Quote
The employee, whose identity remains anonymous, specifically pointed to a December 19th tweet from Trump, which asked his supporters to join him in “protest” of the 2020 election results. “Be there. Will be wild,” the tweet said. According to the anonymous employee, that message was seen by many within Twitter as directly responsible for the violence that followed, which left five dead and has resulted in more than 700 arrests.


Basically he announced the rally on Twitter and then people came. Seems like something he would have been able to do through a ton of other avenues as well? He's been successfully organizing rallies after his Twitter ban too. Twitter definitely played a big role in his rise during the presidential campaign but I think it's also fair to say that the cat is already out of the bag, whether he has an account or not
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 19, 2022, 08:26:23 AM
When people say he used Twitter to do this no one means that it was because he organized the thing directly in a single tweet, but the months of unhinged election misinformation he constantly posted between losing the election and the Capital attack where he purposefully worked people into a frenzy.  You're looking at a drop of water while standing in an ocean and going 'is this water?'

Yes, he has other options for doing bad things, therefore the reach of those options doesn't matter is a silly argument.   Literally, you can see that banning him from Twitter worked just by looking at Nintex posts here.  Whereas he would repost every dumbass thing Trump said 11 times a day before the ban, after he had to post second hand-tweets from Jared Kushner or some shit that went "Just spoke to the president, ..." or post the stupid Trump press releases that no one looked at but Nintex.  If the cat is out of the bag you don't just let it wander the house, you put it back in the bag and drown it.     


Also, yes AOC is a known exaggerater, so let's give uncharitable readings to everything she says just to further show what an exaggerater she is.  What a fun game to do.  It's not like repeatedly doing this day in day out is the reason why Nintex has the reasoning skills of a wombat.   
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on November 19, 2022, 08:42:00 AM
When people say he used Twitter to do this no one means that it was because he organized the thing directly in a single tweet, but the months of unhinged election misinformation he constantly posted between losing the election and the Capital attack where he purposefully worked people into a frenzy.  You're looking at a drop of water while standing in an ocean and going 'is this water?'

Yes, he has other options for doing bad things, therefore the reach of those options doesn't matter is a silly argument.   Literally, you can see that banning him from Twitter worked just by looking at Nintex posts here.  Whereas he would repost every dumbass thing Trump said 11 times a day before the ban, after he had to post second hand-tweets from Jared Kushner or some shit that went "Just spoke to the president, ..." or post the stupid Trump press releases that no one looked at but Nintex.  If the cat is out of the bag you don't just let it wander the house, you put it back in the bag and drown it.     


Also, yes AOC is a known exaggerater, so let's give uncharitable readings to everything she says just to further show what an exaggerater she is.  What a fun game to do.  It's not like repeatedly doing this day in day out is the reason why Nintex has the reasoning skills of a wombat.   


A bit weird that you’re advocating for drowning cats NGL :what
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 19, 2022, 08:45:14 AM
https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1593790066987442176

This had me look up the evidence that Trump incited the riot on Twitter and it seems... quite flimsy? https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/12/23205723/donald-trump-twitter-tweets-january-6th-us-capitol-rally-riot-stop-the-steal
Quote
The employee, whose identity remains anonymous, specifically pointed to a December 19th tweet from Trump, which asked his supporters to join him in “protest” of the 2020 election results. “Be there. Will be wild,” the tweet said. According to the anonymous employee, that message was seen by many within Twitter as directly responsible for the violence that followed, which left five dead and has resulted in more than 700 arrests.


Basically he announced the rally on Twitter and then people came. Seems like something he would have been able to do through a ton of other avenues as well? He's been successfully organizing rallies after his Twitter ban too. Twitter definitely played a big role in his rise during the presidential campaign but I think it's also fair to say that the cat is already out of the bag, whether he has an account or not

The attempt on Mike Pence is a Q-level conspiracy from the people that told you Iraq had WMD's.

Basically the story goes that Mike Pence refused to leave with the Secret Service detail present as they were under orders to abduct, torture and/or kill him. Either at a remote location or simply by delivering him to the crowd.
While at the same time Trump had a fight with them in the car(?).

Not to mention the riot at the Capitol had already begun before Trump had ended his speech and called for a peaceful protest at the Capitol. By the time Alex Jones and the other protestors or those attending the rally arrived the Capitol was already breached.
In fact, the worries about security is why the Secret Service didn't allow Trump to join the protest. All in all January 6 was a string of unrelated events organized by different groups, including extreme right wing groups, former cops, anarchists, veterans and professional protestors.

Now you could argue that Trump created the opportunity for them to head for the Capitol under false pretenses. But that's like saying that the George Floyd protest was also a coup attempt (after all Trump had to hide in the White House bunker for security reasons). You could also blame Trump for not acting fast enough, however days or weeks prior they had specifically told him not to use emergency powers, call up the national guard or indeed involve the military at all. Thus on January 6th you had the strange situation where Nancy Pelosi and Schumer were watching the protest unfold and calling on Trump to send in the troops which is something they had specifically tried to prevent. After all they didn't approve the Trump administration way of cracking down on the protestors during the summer.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 19, 2022, 09:29:42 AM
Do you have evidence of her directly referring to this Q-anon-level conspiracy that Mike Pence refused to leave with the Secret Service detail present as they were under orders to abduct, torture and/or kill him?  Does that make more sense than her referring to some of the committee testimony like https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/mike-pence-was-danger-jan-6-who-n1296424 or the chants to hang him by the crowd, even if it is phased hyperbolically as an 'assassination'?

Because, just from an outside observer, it looks like the reasoning here is 1) AOC is a nut job,  2) I believe Pence was never in danger 3)  she said the keyword 'assassination', 4) I know about a Q-anon-level conspiracy 'assassination' of Mike Pence because I constantly read stuff like that 5)  therefore she must be referencing this Q-anon-level theory that I know about. 

Also yes if you slice the time frame a certain way, of course, Trump did not do anything wrong.  Like, let's just focus on the fact that he said he wanted a peaceful demonstration after the fact then we can ignore all the stuff leading up to that.  Besides [Capital attack comparison with Floyd riots] and [it's actually about Nancy Pelosi and Schumer]. 
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: bork on November 19, 2022, 10:05:23 AM
Enough with the nutjob shit. 
:tinfoil

Back to it-

https://mobile.twitter.com/CaseyNewton/status/1593770866457853957
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 19, 2022, 10:24:48 AM
It's wild to see trending topics working again as intended.
No more curated shit for weeks on end, just the thing that's currently trending, trending. No matter the angle.

Enough with the nutjob shit. 
:tinfoil

Back to it-

https://mobile.twitter.com/CaseyNewton/status/1593770866457853957
The less of the sell outs and censors remain, the better.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 19, 2022, 10:48:50 AM
You really love your stable geniuses, don't you? So many years of dick riding, and you weren't even promised a horse. :(
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 19, 2022, 01:07:03 PM
Trump should come back and his first and only tweet should be

"elon is a sad little nerd and he bought a broken website. Come find me on Truth Social where freedom is free."
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: bork on November 19, 2022, 01:11:48 PM
(https://i.insider.com/5aeb010c19ee8650008b4812?width=700)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 19, 2022, 01:31:47 PM
https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1593790066987442176

This had me look up the evidence that Trump incited the riot on Twitter and it seems... quite flimsy? https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/12/23205723/donald-trump-twitter-tweets-january-6th-us-capitol-rally-riot-stop-the-steal
Quote
The employee, whose identity remains anonymous, specifically pointed to a December 19th tweet from Trump, which asked his supporters to join him in “protest” of the 2020 election results. “Be there. Will be wild,” the tweet said. According to the anonymous employee, that message was seen by many within Twitter as directly responsible for the violence that followed, which left five dead and has resulted in more than 700 arrests.


Basically he announced the rally on Twitter and then people came. Seems like something he would have been able to do through a ton of other avenues as well? He's been successfully organizing rallies after his Twitter ban too. Twitter definitely played a big role in his rise during the presidential campaign but I think it's also fair to say that the cat is already out of the bag, whether he has an account or not

The attempt on Mike Pence is a Q-level conspiracy from the people that told you Iraq had WMD's.

Basically the story goes that Mike Pence refused to leave with the Secret Service detail present as they were under orders to abduct, torture and/or kill him. Either at a remote location or simply by delivering him to the crowd.
While at the same time Trump had a fight with them in the car(?).

Not to mention the riot at the Capitol had already begun before Trump had ended his speech and called for a peaceful protest at the Capitol. By the time Alex Jones and the other protestors or those attending the rally arrived the Capitol was already breached.
In fact, the worries about security is why the Secret Service didn't allow Trump to join the protest. All in all January 6 was a string of unrelated events organized by different groups, including extreme right wing groups, former cops, anarchists, veterans and professional protestors.

Now you could argue that Trump created the opportunity for them to head for the Capitol under false pretenses. But that's like saying that the George Floyd protest was also a coup attempt (after all Trump had to hide in the White House bunker for security reasons). You could also blame Trump for not acting fast enough, however days or weeks prior they had specifically told him not to use emergency powers, call up the national guard or indeed involve the military at all. Thus on January 6th you had the strange situation where Nancy Pelosi and Schumer were watching the protest unfold and calling on Trump to send in the troops which is something they had specifically tried to prevent. After all they didn't approve the Trump administration way of cracking down on the protestors during the summer.

How much of a "conspiracy" is it when hundreds were chanting "HANG MIKE PENCE" as they were breaking into the Capitol and attempting to find him + Pelosi?

Trumpers wanted Pence dead on Jan 6th, that shouldn't be in dispute.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 19, 2022, 01:33:11 PM
Trump should come back and his first and only tweet should be

"elon is a sad little nerd and he bought a broken website. Come find me on Truth Social where freedom is free."

That's the smart business decision. Trump doesn't make smart business decisions.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 19, 2022, 01:34:08 PM
Enough with the nutjob shit. 
:tinfoil

Back to it-

https://mobile.twitter.com/CaseyNewton/status/1593770866457853957

90% sure Musk "begging" her was just a mindgame so he could say he fired her, she didn't quit.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 19, 2022, 01:35:03 PM
https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1593790066987442176

Fucking hell I hate Twitter. Elected federal representaties writing "Idk man" and following with pure snark is just fucking pathetic for our nation.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 19, 2022, 01:51:55 PM
That is not really a twitter thing though.  The under-dignified language used by an official is no different to GW Bush putting on a fake Texan accent and speaking real dumb because it appeals to his voting demographic.  The fact that she is using sarcasm to describe a serious event, and hence seemingly, lowering its seriousness is a result of the fact that serious statements about serious events no longer gain any traction.  Part of that is twitter sure, but to blame twitter without also blaming the likes of fox news is wrong.  Hypothetically, what would you like to see here?  Musk says lets make a game of bringing back a guy who did serious damage to the credibility of US democracy and got people killed.  Representatives who don't want this can be professional and remain silent, be professional and make a serious statement about why this is bad, which they have done a 1000 times, or frame the message in a way that might potentially engage their followers to potentially make a difference.  Like the content of the message is more important than the aesthetics here.     
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 19, 2022, 01:56:24 PM
tasty you shouldn't have posted just one sentence like that, you should've also blamed fox news in the same breath, and this is your downfall
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 19, 2022, 01:58:49 PM
You understand being contrarian doesn't make you smart Uncle?  As well as engaging in the very low-effort snark comments that supposedly is the problem of other social media sites.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on November 19, 2022, 02:37:55 PM
https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1593790066987442176

Fucking hell I hate Twitter. Elected federal representaties writing "Idk man" and following with pure snark is just fucking pathetic for our nation.
That's not really Twatter's fault though. That's all on her
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on November 19, 2022, 02:41:33 PM
When people say he used Twitter to do this no one means that it was because he organized the thing directly in a single tweet, but the months of unhinged election misinformation he constantly posted between losing the election and the Capital attack where he purposefully worked people into a frenzy.  You're looking at a drop of water while standing in an ocean and going 'is this water?'

Yes, he has other options for doing bad things, therefore the reach of those options doesn't matter is a silly argument.   Literally, you can see that banning him from Twitter worked just by looking at Nintex posts here.  Whereas he would repost every dumbass thing Trump said 11 times a day before the ban, after he had to post second hand-tweets from Jared Kushner or some shit that went "Just spoke to the president, ..." or post the stupid Trump press releases that no one looked at but Nintex.  If the cat is out of the bag you don't just let it wander the house, you put it back in the bag and drown it.     


Also, yes AOC is a known exaggerater, so let's give uncharitable readings to everything she says just to further show what an exaggerater she is.  What a fun game to do.  It's not like repeatedly doing this day in day out is the reason why Nintex has the reasoning skills of a wombat.   
Without the amplification all of Trump's tweets received from left leaning media and the hysterical reaction to them, Trump would never have even been elected, let alone been able to organise what was a pretty poorly organised insurrection.

Don't blame the medium, blame the people who facilitated these things, both intentionally and unintentionally.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on November 19, 2022, 02:41:50 PM
You understand being contrarian doesn't make you smart Uncle?  As well as engaging in the very low-effort snark comments that supposedly is the problem of other social media sites.

Idk man

Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 19, 2022, 03:35:53 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/LvK1h1K/Photo-editing-Cloud20221119.jpg)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 19, 2022, 03:42:03 PM
Ignoring speculating on Elon's personal proclivities for a second, a single private owner may more easily resist the threat of a hypothetical future administration led by a man with an open desire to use the state to punish his perceived enemies. Targeting the other businesses of such an owner is a more difficult game if you're constrained by the law as Trump found out with Bezos.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 19, 2022, 03:56:33 PM
When people say he used Twitter to do this no one means that it was because he organized the thing directly in a single tweet, but the months of unhinged election misinformation he constantly posted between losing the election and the Capital attack where he purposefully worked people into a frenzy.  You're looking at a drop of water while standing in an ocean and going 'is this water?'

Yes, he has other options for doing bad things, therefore the reach of those options doesn't matter is a silly argument.   Literally, you can see that banning him from Twitter worked just by looking at Nintex posts here.  Whereas he would repost every dumbass thing Trump said 11 times a day before the ban, after he had to post second hand-tweets from Jared Kushner or some shit that went "Just spoke to the president, ..." or post the stupid Trump press releases that no one looked at but Nintex.  If the cat is out of the bag you don't just let it wander the house, you put it back in the bag and drown it.     


Also, yes AOC is a known exaggerater, so let's give uncharitable readings to everything she says just to further show what an exaggerater she is.  What a fun game to do.  It's not like repeatedly doing this day in day out is the reason why Nintex has the reasoning skills of a wombat.   
Without the amplification all of Trump's tweets received from left leaning media and the hysterical reaction to them, Trump would never have even been elected, let alone been able to organise what was a pretty poorly organised insurrection.

Don't blame the medium, blame the people who facilitated these things, both intentionally and unintentionally.

This is an example of the point I'm trying to make.  The blame is also people who uncritically consume the media and the people who facilitate it.

When you read every exaggerated SJW tweet that you find in the Culture War thread (and like every other Bore thread these days) and then read a dumb Ted Cruz take every once in a while, are you really just laughing at both sides?  How many bad takes from basement dwelling SJWs are equal to a post by someone in actual power, before you start thinking that it's really both sides?  Where are Nintex and co. finding all these tweets, and are you both actually laughing at the same thing?  You read enough of these and you start to get a sense of what the 'left' is really like, and it's all nut jobs, so you develop an intolerance to hyperbole.  You know the kind of thing those nutjobs say and anyone who says anything with the same aesthetic gets lumped into the group.  O God, just AOC being one of those people again.  So then you read a bunch of other Nintex posts that get scattered in that are seemingly centrist and rational.  Tweets like 'It's actually the left's fault that Trump got elected because all their hysteria amplified his tweets which made him more divisive which in turn traditional media picked up on and ran with in nefarious ways' start making sense.  Note only because, sure there is truth there, but because you have seen that hysteria first hand so many times and you know exactly the kind of people to blame. 

But really does that make sense?  Like it sure sounds smart to blame the left for getting Trump elected.  But what is actually more important, the amplification or the actual votes cast?  I know you're not dumb Potato, so why are you repeating platitudes like 'it's really the left's fault'?  I'm not arguing that what you said is wrong, (it's true in a lot of ways, and in hindsight it's absolutely true) just that these factors are not outweighed by the obvious factor that the left didn't actually vote for the guy, to the point that statement doesn't need repeating.  So why does it get said?  Because AOC is doing the exact thing that got Trump elected right here right now, correct?  Like she is just being hysteric like she was in 2016.  Because if you look back at Trump's term, what was there to worry about?  I mean other than significantly impacting the legitimacy of US elections and trying to start an insurrection?   And that wasn't a real insurrection because it failed and because those over-the-top SJWs use term 'insurrection' and I know them to be hyperbolic liars, so the situation really can't be serious.  In hindsight, clearly the hysteria in 2016 was not justified and the more reasonable hindsight is to say that the left amplifying Trump is the cause of this all.  Do you actually believe that or would you rather just go 'LOL AOC said 'assassinate' what a tard'?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 19, 2022, 04:44:39 PM
I don't have a problem with AOC's tweet at all, and would not consider her "part of the problem" regarding Trump, but I think the symbiotic relationship between Trump and the media which is driven by Twitter had far more to do with Trump's appeal to those who eventually voted for him (once or twice) than anything Trump personally ever tweeted. Most Trump voters never looked at his feed, the media couldn't stop themselves to where Trump openly tweeted just to see CNN interrupt to report his tweets.

In general, related to this conversation, I'm not a fan of pointing to off-platform actions as a basis for moderation decisions. Traditionally Twitter had usually agreed. (edit: Though I do not remember what particularly Trump tweeted that day and am not going to bother to look it up to mildly modify this post.)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 19, 2022, 05:43:03 PM
15 million votes

51.8% for
48.2 against

2 hours left
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 19, 2022, 06:03:00 PM
If you spend your days constantly looking at bullshit, it eventually starts to influence you.
That goes for both Nintex and the people wasting all their time reading Resetera and posting about it here. It's not healthy.
You gain nothing of value. It just makes your mind rot away slowly. And you end up with a distorted view of reality, prone to stereotyped thinking.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 19, 2022, 06:08:32 PM
That theory presupposes that Nintex was ever otherwise.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 19, 2022, 06:13:16 PM
Maybe he wasn't, but he certainly amplified it to such an extreme level he turned himself into some kind of caricature. Maybe his faculties predisposed him to this, but I don't think it was predetermined.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 19, 2022, 06:58:55 PM
I'm not really into stereotypes tbh

51.8%
48.2%

15 million votes

40 minutes remaining.

It's closer than you would expect

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1594122225585893383 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1594122225585893383)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 19, 2022, 07:51:51 PM
Reinstate former President Trump

Yes 51.8%
No 48.2%
15,085,458 votes

Biggest intenet poll in history?

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1594131768298315777 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1594131768298315777)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 19, 2022, 07:52:42 PM
When people say he used Twitter to do this no one means that it was because he organized the thing directly in a single tweet, but the months of unhinged election misinformation he constantly posted between losing the election and the Capital attack where he purposefully worked people into a frenzy.  You're looking at a drop of water while standing in an ocean and going 'is this water?'

Yes, he has other options for doing bad things, therefore the reach of those options doesn't matter is a silly argument.   Literally, you can see that banning him from Twitter worked just by looking at Nintex posts here.  Whereas he would repost every dumbass thing Trump said 11 times a day before the ban, after he had to post second hand-tweets from Jared Kushner or some shit that went "Just spoke to the president, ..." or post the stupid Trump press releases that no one looked at but Nintex.  If the cat is out of the bag you don't just let it wander the house, you put it back in the bag and drown it.     


Also, yes AOC is a known exaggerater, so let's give uncharitable readings to everything she says just to further show what an exaggerater she is.  What a fun game to do.  It's not like repeatedly doing this day in day out is the reason why Nintex has the reasoning skills of a wombat.   

I can totally understand the argument that just because there are other ways for him to organize we still don't need to hand him the easiest one, that makes sense.There's also plenty of reasons besides the riot that suggest that banning him was a good idea

 But I think what puts me off is this unique focus on Twitter and this kind of suggestion that this riot wouldn't have happened without it, which I don't really agree with and that panic of the sky falling if Trump ever comes back

Btw. I didn't try to uncharitable read her. Like I bothered to Google the January 6 Twitter statements she referred to because I thought maybe I had missed something
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on November 19, 2022, 08:34:31 PM
This is the first boner that Nintex had since January 6 :jeb
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 19, 2022, 08:37:20 PM
Trump won't come back but more advertisers will leave

Brilliant strategy
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 19, 2022, 08:41:26 PM
I did not think he'd really leave it up to a poll
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 19, 2022, 09:01:20 PM
How do you do a poll with 15 million global responses on any issue and get a near 50/50 split? :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 19, 2022, 09:03:14 PM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)

:pika
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 19, 2022, 09:04:05 PM
Should have added a third option like "ban Joe Biden too" or "ban Ye too" or something.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 19, 2022, 09:22:04 PM
I probably would not set the precedent of overturning permanent bans with simple majority votes on polls even though Elon is likely prominent enough to get good size numbers of responses whenever. For when he checks The Bire for advice I would suggest saying this was an unique situation where he wanted larger consultation and that he did not consider the poll result binding.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: therealdeal on November 19, 2022, 10:40:15 PM
The council has 15 million members, it appears
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on November 20, 2022, 12:26:31 AM
If you spend your days constantly looking at bullshit, it eventually starts to influence you.
That goes for both Nintex and the people wasting all their time reading Resetera and posting about it here. It's not healthy.
You gain nothing of value. It just makes your mind rot away slowly. And you end up with a distorted view of reality, prone to stereotyped thinking.

 :snob
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on November 20, 2022, 03:58:50 AM
If you spend your days constantly looking at bullshit, it eventually starts to influence you.
That goes for both Nintex and the people wasting all their time reading Resetera and posting about it here. It's not healthy.
You gain nothing of value. It just makes your mind rot away slowly. And you end up with a distorted view of reality, prone to stereotyped thinking.

I'm getting strong "violent video games are destroying our youth!" vibes tbh
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Coax on November 20, 2022, 05:10:51 AM
Both posters are ironically not that dissimilar, except Nintex's frequently predictable takes sometimes have some humor :doge
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on November 20, 2022, 07:12:48 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/LvK1h1K/Photo-editing-Cloud20221119.jpg)

cursed image  :yuck
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 20, 2022, 07:14:38 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/LvK1h1K/Photo-editing-Cloud20221119.jpg)

cursed image  :yuck
Dolan Trusk
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 20, 2022, 07:50:33 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/qR800JH/foxnewsnext.jpg)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 20, 2022, 10:49:11 AM
https://twitter.com/ManMadeMoon/status/1594201559612608512
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on November 20, 2022, 02:05:22 PM
https://twitter.com/ManMadeMoon/status/1594201559612608512

 :dead

hope don does go back to twitter

imagine the 24/7 musk/de santis shit talk

probably will be the first person to be banned on nu-twitter
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 20, 2022, 02:49:35 PM
We need to wait for something to happen before he jumps back in.

Here's hoping he keeps the politics exclusive to TRUTH but starts to tweet about random people like the Pope and Kristen Stewart or whatever is on Fox News again.

https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/1594386046149529600 (https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/1594386046149529600)

Kanye's back  :lol

Trump better start Tweeting again, he already has 86.3M Followers  :o
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on November 20, 2022, 03:54:55 PM
85.1 million of them are left wing blue check marks
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 20, 2022, 06:11:03 PM
https://twitter.com/ajaromano/status/1594432549857775617
https://twitter.com/ajaromano/status/1594432570250625024
https://twitter.com/StPaulHawk/status/1594443118916558848
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 20, 2022, 06:19:10 PM
https://twitter.com/moorehn/status/1594315813913169920 (https://twitter.com/moorehn/status/1594315813913169920)

https://twitter.com/moorehn/status/1594358261435826178 (https://twitter.com/moorehn/status/1594358261435826178)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 20, 2022, 06:23:24 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1594470952187805696 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1594470952187805696)

https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/1594469982150488066 (https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/1594469982150488066)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 20, 2022, 07:57:14 PM
https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1594484086055522304 (https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1594484086055522304)

"Dad, Elon made a funny Tweet!"

Elon is terrible at memes or comedy, case in point that SNL trainwreck. So of course Jr finds it funny.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 20, 2022, 08:22:13 PM
I'm glad that he clarified that what he was saying wasn't a lie
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 20, 2022, 08:25:42 PM

Btw. I didn't try to uncharitable read her. Like I bothered to Google the January 6 Twitter statements she referred to because I thought maybe I had missed something

So I didn't mean to jump on you, but I saw it as an example of what many people do, which is to have a hyper-specific reading of something, and then go well actually that doesn't match the truth (under this hyper-specific interpretation).

In this case, it is hyper-specific to take 'last time he was here this platform was used to incite an insurrection' as only referring to tweets he made on the day of the intersection while ignoring the months of tweets that lead up to the day, which is uncharitable.  Like this would only make sense if you think the only way to incite an insurrection on Twitter is to literally tweet 'I president Trump, of sound mind, declare the insurrection is a go.' And even IF you thought this, it's still uncharitable to not consider that many people would not think this. 

And again

Quote
“Be there. Will be wild,” the tweet said. According to the anonymous employee, that message was seen by many within Twitter as directly responsible for the violence that followed, which left five dead and has resulted in more than 700 arrests.

Sure sounds flimsy if you take that to 'directly responsible' to mean that this single employee who is summarizing the feelings of others, is saying that this single tweet was the sole cause of the intersection and not that it was a contributing factor and one that probably escalated the situation.  Maybe lawyers will be like but you said the exact words 'directly responsible' therefore you mean exactly, but that is not the way language actually works where people are imprecise with their language because it's expected that you will give them the benefit of the doubt to interpret their words in the most sensible way.  Also, they didn't actually say 'directly responsible' the author of the article did to summarize what the employee was trying to summarize.     
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 20, 2022, 08:27:44 PM
I'm glad that he clarified that what he was saying wasn't a lie
He seems to be implying that he falsely claims things are funny quite regularly.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 20, 2022, 08:59:33 PM
https://twitter.com/triketora/status/1594348646396559361

 :doge
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 20, 2022, 09:36:59 PM
twitter.com/triketora/status/1594348646396559361

 :doge
(https://i.imgur.com/P63iAKj.png)(https://i.imgur.com/OMdczBN.png)

 :hmm
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 21, 2022, 01:53:00 AM
She wrote she only wants to read books written by authors of a specific color of skin and gender. Horseshoe theory in action?
Anyway,
https://twitter.com/joinmastodon/status/1594436908154748929
-

I just read something interesting on mastodon:
https://mastodon.social/@aallan/109375952405660456
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 21, 2022, 04:53:33 AM
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1594517100839960578 (https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1594517100839960578)

 :kermit
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: paprikastaude on November 21, 2022, 05:40:34 AM
How bad can you handle a service?  :mindblown Musk: yes.

I wouldn't even care about all this nonsne, I just want to keep using Twitter as a gaming newsfeed, from which I've banned everything that smells like culture war early on. Now I get Musk's dad jokes and his takes on Trump in my notifications without even following him. It's literally impossible to escape now.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 21, 2022, 05:49:26 AM
And now you know why he bought Twitter.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: headwalk on November 21, 2022, 06:39:34 AM
i've been playing some warzone 2, and while the map is loading up there are open voice comms with the 149 other people in the server. being the distinguished crowd of learned men it is, the result is a howling chorus of barely intelligble "person of a darker hue" and "one who enjoys the company of other men" being drilled into your skull. it sounds not unlike what i'd imagine the warp in warhammer 40k to sound like, a grotesque distorted singularity, the song of a species wishing to be put out of its misery.

definitely has promise as a twitter replacement.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 21, 2022, 09:55:22 AM
So mastadon is moderated like reddit, where the worst dredges of society get their only happiness by arbitrarily blocking people?

Looooool
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 21, 2022, 09:58:13 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/petergyang/status/1594696056348049410
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 21, 2022, 10:18:45 AM
So mastadon is moderated like reddit, where the worst dredges of society get their only happiness by arbitrarily blocking people?

Looooool

mastodon.social is the equivalent of just one very large subreddit, like, you're not signing up to only see what's said in r/mastodon, you're signing up to view all of reddit (the fediverse (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fediverse))

basically every server is like a subreddit where the individual powertripping mods can ban you from there, but not from other subreddits

but they also have the ability to block entire other subreddits, so no one in THIS subreddit (mastodon) can see the icky people posting over in r/joerogan or whatever, because we decided collectively as the mastodon mods that they're transphobic over there and no one here should be able to read what they say

 :dizzy
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 21, 2022, 11:05:29 AM
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1594723126658576384

Sounds like people are ditching Mastodon and are now running to "hive" which is app only so far and has like three devs working on it

https://www.hivesocial.app/
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 21, 2022, 12:24:55 PM
Big brain move here

https://mobile.twitter.com/CaseyNewton/status/1594712990254702592
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 21, 2022, 12:34:15 PM
So mastadon is moderated like reddit, where the worst dredges of society get their only happiness by arbitrarily blocking people?

Looooool

mastodon.social is the equivalent of just one very large subreddit, like, you're not signing up to only see what's said in r/mastodon, you're signing up to view all of reddit (the fediverse (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fediverse))

basically every server is like a subreddit where the individual powertripping mods can ban you from there, but not from other subreddits

but they also have the ability to block entire other subreddits, so no one in THIS subreddit (mastodon) can see the icky people posting over in r/joerogan or whatever, because we decided collectively as the mastodon mods that they're transphobic over there and no one here should be able to read what they say

 :dizzy

But like, nothing's stopping you from visiting the url directly right? I guess you'd have to make a new account there instead of reusing your mastodon.social account, but honestly that's better imo. My personality, posting style and content are all different depending on the context. I don't want all my shit tied together for easy doxxing either lol.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 21, 2022, 12:41:26 PM
So mastadon is moderated like reddit, where the worst dredges of society get their only happiness by arbitrarily blocking people?

Looooool

mastodon.social is the equivalent of just one very large subreddit, like, you're not signing up to only see what's said in r/mastodon, you're signing up to view all of reddit (the fediverse (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fediverse))

basically every server is like a subreddit where the individual powertripping mods can ban you from there, but not from other subreddits

but they also have the ability to block entire other subreddits, so no one in THIS subreddit (mastodon) can see the icky people posting over in r/joerogan or whatever, because we decided collectively as the mastodon mods that they're transphobic over there and no one here should be able to read what they say

 :dizzy

But like, nothing's stopping you from visiting the url directly right? I guess you'd have to make a new account there instead of reusing your mastodon.social account, but honestly that's better imo. My personality, posting style and content are all different depending on the context. I don't want all my shit tied together for easy doxxing either lol.

yeah, you would need to make a second account on that "rogue" server or find another server that chooses not to defederate others
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 21, 2022, 12:52:35 PM
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1594723126658576384

Sounds like people are ditching Mastodon and are now running to "hive" which is app only so far and has like three devs working on it

https://www.hivesocial.app/

How is that different than Twitter? Closed source, just waiting to be bought out if it manages to get enough traction.
If you actually want full control, why not just run your own mastodon server?


https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2022/11/21/twitter-alternative-hive-social-is-having-a-viral-sign-up-moment/
Quote
While it’s extremely impressive that what is there on Hive has been built and maintained by two people, that raises some pretty serious questions about its ability to scale, and if you spend much time on the app, its shortcomings compared to much more established social media sites are pretty apparent.

- The app feels…fragile, like it’s about to break at a moment’s notice. There’s significant UI and loading lag a lot of the time, and it just does not feel technically stable. That may get worse the more people join.
- There is no desktop version of Hive Social…at all. It doesn’t exist, which is bad since at least half my Twitter time is on desktop.
- You can’t thread tweets, and it’s easy to lose track of comments.
- I don’t think you can embed Hive posts anywhere else.
    Sharing an article on Hive doesn’t even give me a thumbnail preview, just a literal hyperlink.
- You can’t search people by name. Searching “Paul Tassi” or “@paultassi” turns up no results, you have to search “paultassi” only.
- Speaking of @ names, if Twitter’s new verification poses an identity-stealing problem, apparently on Hive multiple people can all claim the same @ name. I’m already seeing things like @Brand accounts that are definitely not the main company. If this gets more and more popular, this is about to start happening at scale, and be very bad.

What a shitshow.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 21, 2022, 12:56:29 PM
So mastadon is moderated like reddit, where the worst dredges of society get their only happiness by arbitrarily blocking people?

Looooool

mastodon.social is the equivalent of just one very large subreddit, like, you're not signing up to only see what's said in r/mastodon, you're signing up to view all of reddit (the fediverse (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fediverse))

basically every server is like a subreddit where the individual powertripping mods can ban you from there, but not from other subreddits

but they also have the ability to block entire other subreddits, so no one in THIS subreddit (mastodon) can see the icky people posting over in r/joerogan or whatever, because we decided collectively as the mastodon mods that they're transphobic over there and no one here should be able to read what they say

 :dizzy

But like, nothing's stopping you from visiting the url directly right? I guess you'd have to make a new account there instead of reusing your mastodon.social account, but honestly that's better imo. My personality, posting style and content are all different depending on the context. I don't want all my shit tied together for easy doxxing either lol.

Yeah, you would need to make a second account on that "rogue" server or find another server that chooses not to defederate others.

Is it easy to share accounts as we do here?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on November 21, 2022, 12:57:01 PM
Hive is what musk is turning twitter into and twitter is what hive wants to turn into.

:brain
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 21, 2022, 01:02:02 PM
How is that different than Twitter? Closed source, just waiting to be bought out if it manages to get enough traction.
If you actually want full control, why not just run your own mastodon server?


https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2022/11/21/twitter-alternative-hive-social-is-having-a-viral-sign-up-moment/
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While it’s extremely impressive that what is there on Hive has been built and maintained by two people, that raises some pretty serious questions about its ability to scale, and if you spend much time on the app, its shortcomings compared to much more established social media sites are pretty apparent.

- The app feels…fragile, like it’s about to break at a moment’s notice. There’s significant UI and loading lag a lot of the time, and it just does not feel technically stable. That may get worse the more people join.
- There is no desktop version of Hive Social…at all. It doesn’t exist, which is bad since at least half my Twitter time is on desktop.
- You can’t thread tweets, and it’s easy to lose track of comments.
- I don’t think you can embed Hive posts anywhere else.
    Sharing an article on Hive doesn’t even give me a thumbnail preview, just a literal hyperlink.
- You can’t search people by name. Searching “Paul Tassi” or “@paultassi” turns up no results, you have to search “paultassi” only.
- Speaking of @ names, if Twitter’s new verification poses an identity-stealing problem, apparently on Hive multiple people can all claim the same @ name. I’m already seeing things like @Brand accounts that are definitely not the main company. If this gets more and more popular, this is about to start happening at scale, and be very bad.

What a shitshow.

I'm getting the feeling that people just jump on the next new thing without really thinking much about it. Not sure how that site is planning to moderate content either.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 21, 2022, 01:04:26 PM
Yeah, that's no alternative to anything.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on November 21, 2022, 01:06:49 PM
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3) It gets acquired by Big Tech, and scaled up that way, given its initially attractive fun

:thinking

do it musk.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 21, 2022, 01:23:05 PM
By the way, what's going on with people saying it's difficult to sign up at mastodon?? You go to https://mastodon.social/ click on create account, select a server, enter a username, password and email address. You verify your email adress. You are done.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 21, 2022, 01:34:21 PM
By the way, what's going on with people saying it's difficult to sign up at mastodon?? You go to https://mastodon.social/ click on create account, select a server, enter a username, password and email address. You verify your email adress. You are done.

there've been issues along the way, people talking about their issues, not realizing when the issues are fixed etc

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/twitter-in-turmoil-heres-how-to-join-the-mastodon-social-network/

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The Mastodon organization provides a partial list of servers -- about 100 -- on its joinmastodon.org site. You can filter the servers by geographic region, language, topic registration process and whether or not they're hosted by individuals or organizations. All servers on the official Mastodon site have agreed to follow the best practices of the Mastodon Server Covenant.

If you're just testing Mastodon out, you might consider one of the official server instances run by the Mastodon organization. While the first and biggest -- mastodon.social -- has temporarily paused registration, a newer mastodon.online server is still open and picking up the slack.

If you want a bigger list of Mastodon servers to review, your best bet right now is instances.social, which offers a sortable list of about 4,000 Mastodon servers, as well as a wizard-style app that helps you choose a server that fits your requirements.

The site provides useful data about each Mastodon instance, including number of users, number of "statuses" (posts), server uptime percentage and which versions of the Mastodon software it is running. It also lets you filter servers by language; minimum/maximum number of users; and prohibited/allowed content such as nudity, pornography, advertisements or entertainment spoilers. You can also click any instance name -- fosstodon.org, for example, a server devoted to open-source software -- to read a brief description of the community.

Once you're actually on a Mastodon site, you can learn about the instance from its "about" page, browse community users on its "explore" page or view recent posts on its "public" page.

You should read the server rules for each Mastodon instance to make sure it's a good fit, but don't worry too much about which server you join. You can follow users on other servers and join and leave as many Mastodon servers as you'd like. If you do move around, Mastodon allows you to migrate all of your followers and lists with you.

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Each Mastodon instance will have its own sign-up process, but the vast majority are the same. You provide a username, email address and password, check the box agreeing to the terms of service and server rules, and click "Sign Up."

You'll then see a notification asking you to check your email for a verification message. Click the "Verify email address" in that email message, and you're done. You can now start posting on your Mastodon server and follow anyone in the Fediverse.

Because of the increased traffic to Mastodon servers since Elon Musk's purchase of Twitter, some of those registration emails are taking a long time to show up or never arriving at all.

When I registered for the mas.to server last week, I got a confirmation email in about 15 minutes. I'm still waiting for a verification email from sfba.social for a registration attempt three days ago.
Be patient, and try a new server if you can't complete the registration for another.

After you verify your email address, your Mastodon account should be up and running. You can start posting or following people, though it will take a while to build up your feed. Web tools like Debirdify and FediFinder can jump-start the process by helping you find your Twitter contacts on Mastodon.

While most Mastodon servers offer the quick registration process described above, other, more private instances will ask that you apply for an invitation to the instance, which requires a manual review and longer registration time.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 21, 2022, 02:54:46 PM
The Hive is doing a better job, basically a ResetEra version of Twitter

https://twitter.com/TheHIVE_Social/status/1594682033942339585 (https://twitter.com/TheHIVE_Social/status/1594682033942339585)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on November 21, 2022, 02:56:32 PM
I wonder if they'll pull a cerium in a year.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 21, 2022, 03:15:37 PM
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1594723126658576384

Sounds like people are ditching Mastodon and are now running to "hive" which is app only so far and has like three devs working on it

https://www.hivesocial.app/

How is that different than Twitter? Closed source, just waiting to be bought out if it manages to get enough traction.
If you actually want full control, why not just run your own mastodon server?


https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2022/11/21/twitter-alternative-hive-social-is-having-a-viral-sign-up-moment/
Quote
While it’s extremely impressive that what is there on Hive has been built and maintained by two people, that raises some pretty serious questions about its ability to scale, and if you spend much time on the app, its shortcomings compared to much more established social media sites are pretty apparent.

- The app feels…fragile, like it’s about to break at a moment’s notice. There’s significant UI and loading lag a lot of the time, and it just does not feel technically stable. That may get worse the more people join.
- There is no desktop version of Hive Social…at all. It doesn’t exist, which is bad since at least half my Twitter time is on desktop.
- You can’t thread tweets, and it’s easy to lose track of comments.
- I don’t think you can embed Hive posts anywhere else.
    Sharing an article on Hive doesn’t even give me a thumbnail preview, just a literal hyperlink.
- You can’t search people by name. Searching “Paul Tassi” or “@paultassi” turns up no results, you have to search “paultassi” only.
- Speaking of @ names, if Twitter’s new verification poses an identity-stealing problem, apparently on Hive multiple people can all claim the same @ name. I’m already seeing things like @Brand accounts that are definitely not the main company. If this gets more and more popular, this is about to start happening at scale, and be very bad.

What a shitshow.


Sounds like I'm on the right path with my own site. :pimp

- Desktop web version is first (mobile web version is an easy @media away)
- Mostly static HTML so 1. shit's fast, and 2. shit doesn't break as much as JavaScript heavy sites do
- "Sharing an article on Hive doesn’t even give me a thumbnail preview, just a literal hyperlink." This is like only a few <meta tags>, come on guys.

And I'm just one guy. :pimp
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on November 21, 2022, 03:23:46 PM
Can I be your CEO.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 21, 2022, 03:30:45 PM
Can I be your CFO
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 21, 2022, 03:31:07 PM
Can I be your CEO.

You can be my Sheryl Sandberg.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 21, 2022, 03:31:34 PM
Can I be your CFO

You can be my Eduardo Saverin.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on November 21, 2022, 03:33:56 PM
Will you let etoilet post on it?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 21, 2022, 03:37:25 PM
He'd need to be creatively capable ("posts" will require a little more work on my site than <280 chars or a quick picture/video), so I think he'd be self-selected out.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: bork on November 21, 2022, 04:11:55 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/damienviel/status/1594323607970369539

The head of Twitter France quit, saying "it's over."



Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 21, 2022, 04:22:02 PM
C'est fini, fait accompli.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 21, 2022, 05:39:24 PM
Can I be your CFO

You can be my Eduardo Saverin.

can I draw your logo icon in mspaint
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on November 21, 2022, 05:50:59 PM
Can you pay me in exchange for sexual favors?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on November 21, 2022, 05:51:37 PM
On second thought, you don’t even have to pay me  :drool
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 21, 2022, 05:55:06 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1594789972015546368 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1594789972015546368)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 21, 2022, 06:14:19 PM
I'm getting the feeling that people just jump on the next new thing without really thinking much about it. Not sure how that site is planning to moderate content either.
It reminds me of when there was a big deal about people leaving Substack because they wouldn't (and at the time said they didn't have enough people to) moderate authors for non-illegal content. All kinds of stories about the brave and stunning people who refused to participate with anywhere that allowed transphobia and were leaving for Ghost instead.

Except Ghost had absolutely no moderation at all. (But Ghost did, at the time, provide authors with a slightly bigger share of subscription revenue under a certain threshold of subscribers. Neither of these things being mentioned in any of the stories like the large ones in the NYT.)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 21, 2022, 09:09:23 PM
On second thought, you don’t even have to pay me  :drool

:o

 :-[

:uguu
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 21, 2022, 09:17:01 PM
can I draw your logo icon in mspaint

Dunno, are your MS Paint skills as good as 20-year old me?

(https://i.imgur.com/qyn4Z5v.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/USd4z2q.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/zqscMmz.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/WEAdAl1.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/BCiCV0s.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/ziHDtgX.png)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 21, 2022, 09:30:15 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/0jeQe7T.png)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 21, 2022, 11:54:29 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1594861031670820864

https://twitter.com/alexeheath/status/1594857578256748544
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 22, 2022, 12:03:43 AM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1594861031670820864
ALWAYS TRUST THE BIRE:
I expect him to create another Blue Check like system
If Elon were smart hed start a red check so we could have a red vs blue situation
For when he checks The Bire for advice
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on November 22, 2022, 01:13:58 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/damienviel/status/1594323607970369539

The head of Twitter France quit, saying "it's over."

A French man surrendering is hardly news.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 22, 2022, 05:59:55 AM
I bet his resignation letter stank of cheese :rodney
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: bork on November 22, 2022, 07:18:32 AM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1594509880840388610

:dead
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tuckers Law on November 22, 2022, 11:36:19 AM
Say what you will about the actual substance of his shitposts, but seeing Elon tweet is certainly entertaining.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 22, 2022, 03:02:53 PM
The reaction from CBS has been kind of weird

https://twitter.com/CBSNewsPress/status/1594338983785291777

Like you're talking about twitter here, not a warzone
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 22, 2022, 03:09:01 PM
:dead What is it with the mainstream media and treating Twitter uber fucking seriously
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 22, 2022, 05:53:20 PM
:dead What is it with the mainstream media and treating Twitter uber fucking seriously
My independently established theory is that they think their Twitter feed is literally reality, voice of the people or something. The number of stories they write based on something they saw on Twitter and sourced only from Twitter people (qualified or not) is too high for me to dismiss this theory.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 22, 2022, 06:18:59 PM
they think their Twitter feed is literally reality, voice of the people or something.

Like this?

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1593769469741932544
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 22, 2022, 11:03:42 PM
Well, no, I think polling people on Twitter about Twitter is perhaps subtly different.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 23, 2022, 01:42:35 AM
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I'm going to spend my social media energy towards more productive things, starting with doing more Speedrunning on Twitch.


newsfeed
Just gonna say it, people who chase world-records are some of the saddest sad sacks I can only barely comprehend. Especially non-athletic records.

Human excellence should be celebrated. Speedrunning as a career should be lightly mocked.
Brianna Wu finally streamed speedrunning on Twitch for the first time ever:
https://twitter.com/BriannaWu/status/1595039467668226049
https://twitter.com/BriannaWu/status/1595064382911922178

Then went back to tweeting multiple times like every single day since previously announcing giving up Twitter.

edit: The above claim is true, Wu is indeed the second fastest Peach speedrunner in Super Mario Advance. Second place of the two people who have posted times: https://www.speedrun.com/sma?h=Peach_Only-Any&x=9d8n35wd-9l75y1p8.z19wz9kq
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 23, 2022, 03:23:12 AM
Clicks on the Luigi only tab. Sees he is like 90 seconds faster. Even videogame women can't compete with the men.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Maiden Voyage on November 23, 2022, 07:12:30 AM
Quote
I'm going to spend my social media energy towards more productive things, starting with doing more Speedrunning on Twitch.


newsfeed
Just gonna say it, people who chase world-records are some of the saddest sad sacks I can only barely comprehend. Especially non-athletic records.

Human excellence should be celebrated. Speedrunning as a career should be lightly mocked.
Brianna Wu finally streamed speedrunning on Twitch for the first time ever:
https://twitter.com/BriannaWu/status/1595039467668226049
https://twitter.com/BriannaWu/status/1595064382911922178

Then went back to tweeting multiple times like every single day since previously announcing giving up Twitter.

edit: The above claim is true, Wu is indeed the second fastest Peach speedrunner in Super Mario Advance. Second place of the two people who have posted times: https://www.speedrun.com/sma?h=Peach_Only-Any&x=9d8n35wd-9l75y1p8.z19wz9kq

Well now someone has to take second place from Wu.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 23, 2022, 07:23:43 AM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1595207476936413187 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1595207476936413187)

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1595340422875856896 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1595340422875856896)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 23, 2022, 07:29:28 AM
Well now someone has to take second place from Wu.

the only thing better than that would be if no one actually cares about the peach record from mario advance and wu just languishes at #2 forever without any other competition
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on November 23, 2022, 09:21:48 AM
wasn't wu running for congress or something?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 23, 2022, 09:23:13 AM
wasn't wu running for congress or something?

yeah second place in that too
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 23, 2022, 10:10:43 AM
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1595413143034920960
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 23, 2022, 12:48:55 PM
MORE ENGAGEMENT TIME

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1595473875847942146
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 23, 2022, 01:32:54 PM
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1595413143034920960

i know he's the saddo who posts ALL of the trump clips, but has he also appointed himself internet hall monitor? :doge
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 23, 2022, 02:02:34 PM
Aaron watches all the Trump rallies and posts the highlights so we don't have to :salute :trumps


Aaron: "Can't believe Trump ran clips of Joe Biden stuttering on the jumbotron and he insulted Angela Merkel"  :brazilcry

Tweeps: "Trump did what now?"  :neogaf
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 23, 2022, 04:16:08 PM
twitter.com/atrupar/status/1595413143034920960

i know he's the saddo who posts ALL of the trump clips, but has he also appointed himself internet hall monitor? :doge
Suffice it to say, yikes.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on November 23, 2022, 04:36:12 PM
MORE ENGAGEMENT TIME

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1595473875847942146

i voted yes because this will cause more advertisers to leave
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 23, 2022, 05:11:09 PM
https://twitter.com/DelusionPosting/status/1595436075912024069
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on November 23, 2022, 05:30:42 PM
So, after 23 pages of this shit thread, has any borean claiming to want leave it actually abandoned Twatter or are you all just giant pussies?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 23, 2022, 05:46:34 PM
So, after 23 pages of this shit thread, has any borean claiming to want leave it actually abandoned Twatter or are you all just giant pussies?

I quit in 2020. :smug

And I'm also making my own site. :win
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on November 23, 2022, 05:49:25 PM
So, after 23 pages of this shit thread, has any borean claiming to want leave it actually abandoned Twatter or are you all just giant pussies?

I quit in 2020. :smug

And I'm also making my own site. :win

Instead of tweets you could call them tastes...
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 23, 2022, 05:52:54 PM
Taste the rainbow :aah
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 23, 2022, 05:55:52 PM
Your site should only have good content and no bad content is allowed. I hear that's what the people really want but BIG TECH refuses to cater to this massive market.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on November 23, 2022, 05:59:32 PM
At the very least come up with a better fucking name than an extinct dinosaur or something that recalls drones with no autonomy
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 23, 2022, 06:18:32 PM
call your social media platform Creamy and let me make creams  ;)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on November 23, 2022, 06:20:36 PM
#Free.Cream
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 23, 2022, 06:25:38 PM
Call it "NERV"  :doggy
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 23, 2022, 07:04:06 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1595505413113323520

Sounds like they're going to be fine despite the extremely reduced workforce
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 23, 2022, 08:44:44 PM
Elmo Muskrat did it? :titus
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 26, 2022, 06:26:06 PM
https://twitter.com/Kurrco/status/1596620489769615360 (https://twitter.com/Kurrco/status/1596620489769615360)

After failing to take on Trump, Kanye sets his sights on Elon.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 26, 2022, 11:00:18 PM
did twitter finally die forever due to historic mismanagement in the time it took the bire to return  ???
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on November 26, 2022, 11:23:47 PM
did twitter finally die forever due to historic mismanagement in the time it took the bire to return  ???
In spite of the many threats from blue check marks and non-blue check marks to quit and several alternative platforms being suggested, Twatter is, in fact, still alive. But don't worry, those people will quit as soon as possible...tomorrow maybe, or the next day...
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 26, 2022, 11:27:48 PM
I find it curious that every single chart has a different start date

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1596718851097755648
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 26, 2022, 11:28:53 PM
did twitter finally die forever due to historic mismanagement in the time it took the bire to return  ???
In spite of the many threats from blue check marks and non-blue check marks to quit and several alternative platforms being suggested, Twatter is, in fact, still alive. But don't worry, those people will quit as soon as possible...tomorrow maybe, or the next day...
A bunch of them are trying to get the media to convince Apple and Google to ban Twitter from the app stores until Musk sells or something.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on November 27, 2022, 12:16:24 AM
did twitter finally die forever due to historic mismanagement in the time it took the bire to return  ???
In spite of the many threats from blue check marks and non-blue check marks to quit and several alternative platforms being suggested, Twatter is, in fact, still alive. But don't worry, those people will quit as soon as possible...tomorrow maybe, or the next day...
A bunch of them are trying to get the media to convince Apple and Google to ban Twitter from the app stores until Musk sells or something.
Lol, based on what? Musk being a shit boss? Apple and Google have first hand experience/culpability there.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 27, 2022, 12:22:53 AM
The theory is that Musk unbanning people will increase the amount of hate speech on Twitter which will increase actual real world violence so therefore Apple and Google need to act to save lives. Taylor Lorenz ran a story in The Washington Post quoting from other insane Twitter conspiracy theorists outlining the necessity of this and quoting someone quoting her first tweet when Elon's purchase went through.

Same as everything with authoritarian censors, everything I dislike is literally killing people and you're complicit if you don't do what I want.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 27, 2022, 12:42:02 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/4BspYde.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/AKXsUno.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/ZcPUDs2.png)

apparently, anyone running their own instance of mastodon is filling up on space quickly because it caches everything by default, every image you see permanently saved, so the influx of new users all treating it like twitter and posting like mad are practically DDOSing other users

(https://i.imgur.com/65xbzqz.png)

everyone's been saying twitter would die instantly with a 90% reduction in workforce since it's such a sensitive fragile system, so they're all trying to move to a sensitive fragile enthusiast coder platform never designed to support them
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 27, 2022, 12:51:45 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/ZcPUDs2.png)
"Say one thing wrong and you can be booted from that server (think a reddit mod getting pissy) and then what happens?"

Uh, you just keep posting? This is like the whole point?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 27, 2022, 03:11:50 AM
https://twitter.com/reaghhan/status/1596496490515816448

spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/reaghhan/status/1596499744091951105
https://twitter.com/reaghhan/status/1596670913977655299
[close]
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 27, 2022, 04:34:27 AM
The bluecheck shitlibs moving to mastodon is like your average boomer switching from Windows to the Linux command line. They don't get that it has been made difficult on purpose to keep them out  :lol

Just go back to Facebook :trumps
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 28, 2022, 12:49:59 AM
Website has started to crack

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1597032623020249088
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 28, 2022, 03:24:23 AM
Apparently Twitter's automated content flagging system doesn't work anymore. People have uploaded entire movies (cut into chunks) and terror videos, too, and they were not detected and deleted.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 28, 2022, 06:58:16 AM
Apparently Twitter's automated content flagging system doesn't work anymore. People have uploaded entire movies (cut into chunks) and terror videos, too, and they were not detected and deleted.

that's wild, could you link some of those movies so I can illegally watch them  :playa
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 28, 2022, 10:16:08 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/GJMpCR4.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/IwgcxkB.gif)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on November 28, 2022, 11:19:13 AM
Can’t believe the mad lad just went ahead and said that  :titus
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 28, 2022, 02:11:35 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1597285572699074560

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1597300125243944961

Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 28, 2022, 02:19:10 PM
Tim Apple has turned Apple into a shadow of its former self.

Elon goes to war

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1597302404239659008 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1597302404239659008)

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1597290422375587840 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1597290422375587840)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on November 28, 2022, 02:28:36 PM
Now I'm legitimately curious what an Apple Walled Garden twitter clone exclusively for iDevices reception would be from bluetick tech bloggers, particularly ones whove been vocal about apples antitrust issues
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on November 28, 2022, 02:32:48 PM
Now I'm legitimately curious what an Apple Walled Garden twitter clone exclusively for iDevices reception would be from bluetick tech bloggers, particularly ones whove been vocal about apples antitrust issues
Apple bitches would eat that shit up. They get to be exclusive twice. Remember their reaction when Instagram went Android?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on November 28, 2022, 02:36:52 PM
Now I'm legitimately curious what an Apple Walled Garden twitter clone exclusively for iDevices reception would be from bluetick tech bloggers, particularly ones whove been vocal about apples antitrust issues

dead beat jobs tried to do a social network based on music.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 28, 2022, 04:02:18 PM
Apparently Twitter's automated content flagging system doesn't work anymore. People have uploaded entire movies (cut into chunks) and terror videos, too, and they were not detected and deleted.

that's wild, could you link some of those movies so I can illegally watch them  :playa

That would be contributory copyright infringement. Naughty!
Anyway, I found a movie from 2021 that was posted 7 days ago and is still online in its entirety right now. Maybe Musky fired a few too many people, after all.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 28, 2022, 04:06:21 PM
I can't believe people are uploading illegal content on the internet, someone call the FBI. :usacry
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 28, 2022, 04:11:18 PM
If rumors are to be believed, Apple is still going to launch a search engine, sometime... any day now. We've been hearing about it for almost 10 years, so it's got to be pretty close.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on November 28, 2022, 04:33:54 PM
Musk bringing back the wild west days of the internet is the timeline we need
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 28, 2022, 04:35:59 PM
If rumors are to be believed, Apple is still going to launch a search engine, sometime... any day now. We've been hearing about it for almost 10 years, so it's got to be pretty close.

Do you mean Apple car?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 28, 2022, 04:50:27 PM
Even as a twitter hater I find the moral panic around it pretty bizarre, twitter would have let Trump back on anyway at some point in the nearish future under old leadership, lets face it this is what it's almost all about to the media, pretty sure they even said they would.

Keeping him off as someone running for president could be seen as a form of election interference surely?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 28, 2022, 04:59:16 PM
If rumors are to be believed, Apple is still going to launch a search engine, sometime... any day now. We've been hearing about it for almost 10 years, so it's got to be pretty close.

Do you mean Apple car?

Sorry, I meant Apple AR Glasses.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 28, 2022, 05:02:13 PM
Keeping him off as someone running for president could be seen as a form of election interference surely?

I dunno, that seems weird

suppose I am banned from resetera because I called royalan fat

then I run for president, and they are forced to unban me and let me say what I like, otherwise they would be interfering in the process?

or the same for reddit, or youtube?  what about a lesser race like guvnah?  they HAVE to let anyone running for office have an account?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on November 28, 2022, 05:07:57 PM
Keeping him off as someone running for president could be seen as a form of election interference surely?

I dunno, that seems weird

suppose I am banned from resetera because I called royalan fat

then I run for president, and they are forced to unban me and let me say what I like, otherwise they would be interfering in the process?

or the same for reddit, or youtube?  what about a lesser race like guvnah?  they HAVE to let anyone running for office have an account?

 :cenk
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 28, 2022, 05:22:37 PM
Wait all we have to do to get our resetera accounts back is to run for office????

SEE YA FUCKERS
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 28, 2022, 05:47:32 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1597336812732575744 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1597336812732575744)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 28, 2022, 05:48:04 PM
HUNTER BIDENS LAPTOP DROP INCOMING
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 28, 2022, 06:03:51 PM
CIA and Feds trying to DDOS and censor Twitter  :rage

Elon Musk and his army of weebs and nerds keeping Twitter online  :jgames :elon  :expert
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 28, 2022, 06:09:23 PM
The Twitter Files :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 28, 2022, 07:03:13 PM
https://twitter.com/AdamKinzinger/status/1597262661586415616 (https://twitter.com/AdamKinzinger/status/1597262661586415616)

 :fbm :karen
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 28, 2022, 07:17:33 PM
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMzU4Yjc5MjYtYWRjNy00OTM1LWI0YmMtODZkYTYxOTE5OWRmXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyODc4NDc3NQ@@._V1_.jpg)



AKCHOOALLY "we" took it back a few years ago. :obama :feelsgoodman
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 28, 2022, 07:18:02 PM
:ufup

peepo / pepo is an adorable goober and is unimpeachable

(https://i.imgur.com/z5LJhen.png)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: chronovore on November 28, 2022, 07:47:44 PM
Now I'm legitimately curious what an Apple Walled Garden twitter clone exclusively for iDevices reception would be from bluetick tech bloggers, particularly ones whove been vocal about apples antitrust issues

dead beat jobs tried to do a social network based on music.

OMG, I'd completely forgotten about that. It was useless. So, so useless.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 28, 2022, 08:05:07 PM
Twitterphiles :nope

Twitter Files :elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 28, 2022, 08:09:00 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/NQK9lbw.png)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 28, 2022, 08:51:34 PM
Keeping him off as someone running for president could be seen as a form of election interference surely?

I dunno, that seems weird

suppose I am banned from resetera because I called royalan fat

then I run for president, and they are forced to unban me and let me say what I like, otherwise they would be interfering in the process?

or the same for reddit, or youtube?  what about a lesser race like guvnah?  they HAVE to let anyone running for office have an account?
This is just Twitter's secret rules (Facebook has said the same thing) that's why Trump and MTG had personal accounts banned but still had their office accounts to tweet from (as MTG discovered) which are held to different rules. (And why they don't ban dictators, etc.) Also, if Trump had won the election he would have never been banned. The entire thing is because they irrationally freaked out and created a one-time exception that had never been used before or since.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 29, 2022, 02:37:43 AM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1597405399040217088 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1597405399040217088)

Not all heroes wear capes
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on November 29, 2022, 04:08:53 AM
...and there we have it. Every fucking idiot in this situation is so wrapped up in the importance of Twitter they actually think the world will stop turning if it goes away. It won't.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on November 29, 2022, 05:06:44 AM
This is just Twitter's secret rules (Facebook has said the same thing) that's why Trump and MTG had personal accounts banned

Wait. Lib Twitter banned Magic the Gathering? Are they on Master dong?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 29, 2022, 02:31:24 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/ZoeSchiffer/status/1597581788897218560
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 29, 2022, 04:40:42 PM
snitch culture :comeon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on November 29, 2022, 04:58:51 PM
This is just Twitter's secret rules (Facebook has said the same thing) that's why Trump and MTG had personal accounts banned

Wait. Lib Twitter banned Magic the Gathering? Are they on Master dong?
https://twitter.com/David_Leavitt/status/1572632908115886080
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 29, 2022, 06:45:11 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1597728650019098624 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1597728650019098624)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 29, 2022, 10:44:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8N0xN0ihMA

Had no idea about half this shit, and I was all over TechCrunch and Valleywag while this was going on. Maybe it's good Musk drained the swamp.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 30, 2022, 12:28:33 AM
https://twitter.com/davenewworld_2/status/1597569117225365504

 ??? ??? ???

like these other classics?

https://twitter.com/glennbeckraped/status/3859419091

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/920711972857024517
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 30, 2022, 08:19:00 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FivnUbKUAAAzRko?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on November 30, 2022, 08:35:27 AM
:science
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 30, 2022, 02:05:06 PM
That gun is from Deus Ex, she wouldn't get it

Anyhow the EUSSR is coming after Elon next.
https://twitter.com/unusual_whales/status/1598011275157843968 (https://twitter.com/unusual_whales/status/1598011275157843968)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 30, 2022, 03:15:59 PM
Not exactly news, Musky was fine with it back in May.
https://twitter.com/ThierryBreton/status/1585902196864045056

Good for the EU. Lies without consequence are the downfall of democracy.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on November 30, 2022, 03:24:23 PM

Good for the EU. Lies without consequence are the downfall of democracy.

Does this mean they should enforce mandatory content moderation on spastadon too?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 30, 2022, 04:03:40 PM
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/11/how-secure-a-twitter-replacement-is-mastodon-let-us-count-the-ways/

Quote
What’s more, Mastodon software has no auto-update or even update-availability feature.

“You have to check the GitHub releases, personally,” Lendvay said. “I try to do that weekly. But for many, I would imagine they would hear through the grapevine. I've seen disparate versions running, so who knows what the consistency will be.”

 :era
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 30, 2022, 04:09:35 PM
But isn't mastadon basically by autistys for autistys :elon

I imagine they'll make it even more obtuse to scare off the normies
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 30, 2022, 04:14:03 PM
Won't somebody think of the boomers? They'll have a hard time running their own mastodon servers! Oh no.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 30, 2022, 04:18:47 PM
Sorry but having to remember to check the GitHub every week for new releases and then being forced to manually install them via SFTP or some shit is Just Plain Fucktarded™.

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“You have to check the GitHub releases, personally,” Lendvay said. “I try to do that weekly. But for many, I would imagine they would hear through the grapevine. I've seen disparate versions running, so who knows what the consistency will be.”

Other comparable open source software projects mentioned in the article I linked: WordPress has a simple "Install update" prompt (you just have to make sure the directory/file permissions are set to 777 or similar), and it auto-checks for new versions behind the scenes. Discourse has an update checker. Haven't used Nginx so can't comment but if it's a command line program this discussion isn't really applicable.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 30, 2022, 04:22:54 PM
I'm pretty sure that's exactly how this very forum is updated.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 30, 2022, 04:23:58 PM
I'm pretty sure that's exactly how this very forum is updated.

I've gone at length several times on how I think the technical administration of this very forum is Just Plain Fucktarded™. So you're really only proving my point. :lol My extensions (http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45694.0) wouldn't have to be extensions if it wasn't.

Also this forum software (SimpleMachinesForum) had a grand total of 3 software releases this year. A little easier to keep up with than every single week, with active exploits in the wild and a growing userbase of normies who just want shit to work.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on November 30, 2022, 04:29:14 PM
I'm pretty sure that's exactly how this very forum is updated.

SMF 2.0.19 Released
December 21, 2021, 04:44:51 PM
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 30, 2022, 04:30:03 PM
You could simply run a python script that automatically checks github for updates.

By the way, I am not disagreeing, of course that could be automated. But it's not a severe issue.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 30, 2022, 04:30:44 PM
And pretty sure before bork(?) updated to that there was an multi-year gap in updates being installed here...
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 30, 2022, 04:33:54 PM
Maybe the influx of new users will lead to more donations and mastodon will be able to afford a few more coders.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 30, 2022, 04:34:59 PM
You could simply run a python script that automatically checks github for updates.

By the way, I am not disagreeing, of course that could be automated. But it's not a severe issue.

I think it's the first thing they need to fix, because you don't want to end up in Android Fragmentation Hell where it's 10 years down the line and 60% of Mastodon instances are using pre-auto-update versions. Auto-update wouldn't magically transform the situation into iPhone Update Heaven or anything, but I think it's crucial they cut down on the amount of non-auto-updateable instances ASAP.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on November 30, 2022, 04:51:13 PM
By the way, mastodon has reached seven million users two weeks ago. It really just needs some more funding.
I still think the idea behind it is great because it can not be bought, is decentralized and open source. Anyone can contribute and make it better.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on November 30, 2022, 05:01:02 PM

Good for the EU. Lies without consequence are the downfall of democracy.

Does this mean they should enforce mandatory content moderation on spastadon too?
You just don't get it, do you?

Mastodon is in opposition to Twitter, so by culture warrior rules, that means they are allies and, as we all know, allies can do no wrong. Therefore, Mastodon, by its nature, is always on the right side of history, regardless of whether its moderation is factually worse than Musk's Twatter.
 :derp
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on November 30, 2022, 05:04:20 PM
Maybe the influx of new users will lead to more donations and mastodon will be able to afford a few more coders.

 :wow
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on November 30, 2022, 05:22:33 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1598050795882442752 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1598050795882442752)

Tim Apple bends the knee

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1598048008079540224 (https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1598048008079540224)

Karen isn't happy
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on November 30, 2022, 06:02:27 PM
well-lit rooms are approved however

:wow
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on November 30, 2022, 06:16:01 PM
Anyone know if Elon plays JRPGs in there too? (https://i.imgur.com/eOSHcLJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on November 30, 2022, 06:22:11 PM
Quote
Elizabeth Warren says Elon Musk should not be able to go into a "dark room" alone and make decisions.

Honey, dark rooms aren't for being alone  :rodney
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on November 30, 2022, 07:56:39 PM
Muskrat turning himself into a celeb is probably his worst move, cuz people are acting like Kris Jenner bought twitter rather than a Jeff Bezos.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Transhuman on November 30, 2022, 09:20:46 PM
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1598048008079540224 (https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1598048008079540224)

https://observer.com/2017/05/dnc-lawsuit-presidential-primaries-bernie-sanders-supporters/

Quote
Later in the hearing, attorneys representing the DNC claim that the Democratic National Committee would be well within their rights to “go into back rooms like they used to and smoke cigars and pick the candidate that way.”

:idont
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on December 01, 2022, 10:06:48 AM
relevant to twitter/mastodon shenanigans, I stumbled across a story from 4 years ago:

https://wilwheaton.net/2018/08/the-world-is-a-terrible-place-right-now-and-thats-largely-because-it-is-what-we-make-it/

TLDR:

wil wheaton was so mad at twitter that he left it 4 years ago, went to mastodon, and got so relentlessly abused for his perceived transphobia that he had to leave it too


(side note: wil knew some wonderful people on the inside of twitter who were quietly trying to uh, "fix" it...probably all fired now)

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Anyway, enough about how terrible Twitter is. We all know how terrible it is. That’s never going to change, by the way. I know some very good people who are working on making Twitter better, but I honestly don’t think they can overcome the institutional inertia that has allowed it to get to the point its at now. It may get incrementally better, but the fundamental problem of random, mostly-anonymous people being terrible isn’t going to change, because that’s not a Twitter problem. That’s a humanity — and specifically a social media — problem.

his experience at mastodon:

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I thought I’d find something different. I thought I’d find a smaller community that was more like Twitter was way back in 2008 or 2009. Cat pictures! Jokes! Links to interesting things that we found in the backwaters of the internet! Interaction with friends we just haven’t met, yet! What I found was … not that.

I found a harsh reality that I’m still trying to process: thousands of people who don’t know me, who have never interacted with me, who internalized a series of lies about me, who were never willing to give me a chance. I was harassed from the minute I made my account, and though I expected the “shut up wesley”s and “go fuck yourself”s to taper off after a day or so, it never did. And even though I never broke any rules on the server I joined (Mastodon is individual “instances” which is like a server, which connects to the “federated timeline”, which is what all the other servers are), one of its admins told me they were suspending my account, because they got 60 (!) reports overnight about my account, and they didn’t want to deal with the drama.

I respect and support that person’s decision, because it’s a private server and it’s run with their time, energy, attention, and (presumably) money. I don’t agree with it at all, and I think it’s deeply unfair, as well as rewarding abuse of a reporting system that’s meant to protect users, but it’s their site and it’s their rules, and I can’t say I blame them. The people going after me were pretty awful, and I can only imagine that an admin would get fed up with them, too.

how was wil transphobic? well, during GAMERGATE he used a poorly-coded block list which also blocked people who were engaging with the GAMERGATORS which included a lot of trans people, so he was inadvertently blocking a lot of trans people

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Before I leave, I want to just make something very clear, because I’ve spent most of my life being yelled at by people who don’t know me at all, and I want the record to be clear. 2/x

During GamerGate, I was dogpiled and mobbed and brigaded and attacked by thousands of accounts. I started using a blocklist that was supposed to help stop that. I did not know that the blocklist I signed up for also had a lot of trans women on it. When I found out, I did everything I could to remove those women from the list I shared. When there were still innocents on the list, I stopped sharing the list entirely. Despite this, a mob has decided that I’m anti-trans. 3/x

This lie that I am anti-trans, or anti-LGBQ, is deeply hurtful to me (I know it’s nothing like the pain LGBTQ people deal with every day, as they simply try to *exist* in a world that treats them so badly, but it is still hurtful in its own way to me). I just want to make it extremely clear: that is a lie, and the people spreading it are misinformed.

So I’m leaving the Fediverse, which has treated me with more cruelty, vitriol, hatred, and contempt than than anyone on the birdsite ever did. 4/x

alt-right dogwhistles:

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I see this in the online space all the time now: mobs of people, acting in bad faith, can make people they don’t know and will likely never meet miserable, or even try to ruin their lives and careers (look at what they did to James Gunn). And those mobs’ bad behaviors are continually rewarded, because it’s honestly easier to just give them what they want. We are ceding the social space to bad people, because they have the most time, the least morals and ethics, and are skilled at relentlessly attacking and harassing their targets. It only takes few seconds for one person to type “fuck off” and hit send. That person probably doesn’t care and doesn’t think about how their one grain of sand quickly becomes a dune, with another person buried beneath it. That’s a huge problem that seems to be baked into social media, and I tried to mitigate it with a blocklist that I never intended to be problematic, but ultimately was. (And for what it’s worth, the part of me that wants to apologize to the people who ended up on it by mistake is overwhelmed by the part of me who was attacked really viciously by a lot of those people and feels like maybe blocking them wasn’t such a bad idea, after all.)

 :thinking

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Like, I know that I’m not a transphobe, but holy shit that lie just won’t die, and right now as I am writing this, someone at Mastodon is telling me that I am, because people said so, and I should apologize to them. I mean, how am I supposed to respond to that, when it happens over and over and over again? “You’ve been lied to about me. Please give me a chance” just doesn’t seem like a viable way forward with people who are, for whatever reason, very, very angry. And these people seem to have an idea of me in their head that doesn’t fit with the idea of myself that I have in my head. It’s honestly caused me to rethink a lot of stuff. Like, am I really the terrible person they say I am? I don’t think I am, but I’m doing my best to listen, and when I say, “please stop yelling at me and let’s have a conversation that I can grow from” I get yelled at for “tone policing” and honestly I just get exhausted and throw up my hands. Maybe I’m not this person they tell me I am, but I represent that person in their heads, and they treat me accordingly? This is one of those times when my mental illness makes it very hard for me to know what’s objective reality and what’s just in my head.

:thinking :thinking :thinking
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BisMarckie on December 01, 2022, 11:05:20 AM
So what you are telling me is that he is a transphobe?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tuckers Law on December 01, 2022, 11:37:27 AM
It’s like that dolan comic.  Everything is transphobic.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on December 01, 2022, 02:30:52 PM
relevant to twitter/mastodon shenanigans, I stumbled across a story from 4 years ago:

https://wilwheaton.net/2018/08/the-world-is-a-terrible-place-right-now-and-thats-largely-because-it-is-what-we-make-it/

TLDR:

wil wheaton was so mad at twitter that he left it 4 years ago, went to mastodon, and got so relentlessly abused for his perceived transphobia that he had to leave it too


(side note: wil knew some wonderful people on the inside of twitter who were quietly trying to uh, "fix" it...probably all fired now)

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Anyway, enough about how terrible Twitter is. We all know how terrible it is. That’s never going to change, by the way. I know some very good people who are working on making Twitter better, but I honestly don’t think they can overcome the institutional inertia that has allowed it to get to the point its at now. It may get incrementally better, but the fundamental problem of random, mostly-anonymous people being terrible isn’t going to change, because that’s not a Twitter problem. That’s a humanity — and specifically a social media — problem.

his experience at mastodon:

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I thought I’d find something different. I thought I’d find a smaller community that was more like Twitter was way back in 2008 or 2009. Cat pictures! Jokes! Links to interesting things that we found in the backwaters of the internet! Interaction with friends we just haven’t met, yet! What I found was … not that.

I found a harsh reality that I’m still trying to process: thousands of people who don’t know me, who have never interacted with me, who internalized a series of lies about me, who were never willing to give me a chance. I was harassed from the minute I made my account, and though I expected the “shut up wesley”s and “go fuck yourself”s to taper off after a day or so, it never did. And even though I never broke any rules on the server I joined (Mastodon is individual “instances” which is like a server, which connects to the “federated timeline”, which is what all the other servers are), one of its admins told me they were suspending my account, because they got 60 (!) reports overnight about my account, and they didn’t want to deal with the drama.

I respect and support that person’s decision, because it’s a private server and it’s run with their time, energy, attention, and (presumably) money. I don’t agree with it at all, and I think it’s deeply unfair, as well as rewarding abuse of a reporting system that’s meant to protect users, but it’s their site and it’s their rules, and I can’t say I blame them. The people going after me were pretty awful, and I can only imagine that an admin would get fed up with them, too.

how was wil transphobic? well, during GAMERGATE he used a poorly-coded block list which also blocked people who were engaging with the GAMERGATORS which included a lot of trans people, so he was inadvertently blocking a lot of trans people

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Before I leave, I want to just make something very clear, because I’ve spent most of my life being yelled at by people who don’t know me at all, and I want the record to be clear. 2/x

During GamerGate, I was dogpiled and mobbed and brigaded and attacked by thousands of accounts. I started using a blocklist that was supposed to help stop that. I did not know that the blocklist I signed up for also had a lot of trans women on it. When I found out, I did everything I could to remove those women from the list I shared. When there were still innocents on the list, I stopped sharing the list entirely. Despite this, a mob has decided that I’m anti-trans. 3/x

This lie that I am anti-trans, or anti-LGBQ, is deeply hurtful to me (I know it’s nothing like the pain LGBTQ people deal with every day, as they simply try to *exist* in a world that treats them so badly, but it is still hurtful in its own way to me). I just want to make it extremely clear: that is a lie, and the people spreading it are misinformed.

So I’m leaving the Fediverse, which has treated me with more cruelty, vitriol, hatred, and contempt than than anyone on the birdsite ever did. 4/x

alt-right dogwhistles:

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I see this in the online space all the time now: mobs of people, acting in bad faith, can make people they don’t know and will likely never meet miserable, or even try to ruin their lives and careers (look at what they did to James Gunn). And those mobs’ bad behaviors are continually rewarded, because it’s honestly easier to just give them what they want. We are ceding the social space to bad people, because they have the most time, the least morals and ethics, and are skilled at relentlessly attacking and harassing their targets. It only takes few seconds for one person to type “fuck off” and hit send. That person probably doesn’t care and doesn’t think about how their one grain of sand quickly becomes a dune, with another person buried beneath it. That’s a huge problem that seems to be baked into social media, and I tried to mitigate it with a blocklist that I never intended to be problematic, but ultimately was. (And for what it’s worth, the part of me that wants to apologize to the people who ended up on it by mistake is overwhelmed by the part of me who was attacked really viciously by a lot of those people and feels like maybe blocking them wasn’t such a bad idea, after all.)

 :thinking

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Like, I know that I’m not a transphobe, but holy shit that lie just won’t die, and right now as I am writing this, someone at Mastodon is telling me that I am, because people said so, and I should apologize to them. I mean, how am I supposed to respond to that, when it happens over and over and over again? “You’ve been lied to about me. Please give me a chance” just doesn’t seem like a viable way forward with people who are, for whatever reason, very, very angry. And these people seem to have an idea of me in their head that doesn’t fit with the idea of myself that I have in my head. It’s honestly caused me to rethink a lot of stuff. Like, am I really the terrible person they say I am? I don’t think I am, but I’m doing my best to listen, and when I say, “please stop yelling at me and let’s have a conversation that I can grow from” I get yelled at for “tone policing” and honestly I just get exhausted and throw up my hands. Maybe I’m not this person they tell me I am, but I represent that person in their heads, and they treat me accordingly? This is one of those times when my mental illness makes it very hard for me to know what’s objective reality and what’s just in my head.

:thinking :thinking :thinking
This is the reality people like Wil created on Twatter and the internet more broadly yet they only seem to care when it affects them personally.

Fuck off!
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 01, 2022, 09:45:47 PM
Good for the EU. Lies without consequence are the downfall of democracy.
I agree if this is true, I can't wait for the EU to start shutting down access to any website that allows anyone, especially foreigners (or worse, the British), to post on them. Blasphemy against the Church should be allowed no quarter anywhere.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on December 01, 2022, 10:04:25 PM
https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/1598505803580841984

 :yeshrug
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on December 01, 2022, 10:12:48 PM
 :info
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 01, 2022, 10:36:25 PM
He made it himself in Photoshop  :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 01, 2022, 10:45:19 PM
Friends, if I ever post something like that instead of just pasting a swatiska over top and asking you to understand the concept, it's a warning sign about my mental illness. (Same with taking a screenshot of my monitor.)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: headwalk on December 01, 2022, 10:49:47 PM
https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/1598505803580841984

 :yeshrug

www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoAoPqhkL8M
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 02, 2022, 02:28:00 AM
Elon banned ye

https://twitter.com/ziyatong/status/1598545615037906944 (https://twitter.com/ziyatong/status/1598545615037906944)

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1598546057138524160 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1598546057138524160)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on December 02, 2022, 09:28:28 AM
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Before Elon Musk bought Twitter, slurs against Black Americans showed up on the social media service an average of 1,282 times a day. After the billionaire became Twitter’s owner, they jumped to 3,876 times a day.

Slurs against gay men appeared on Twitter 2,506 times a day on average before Mr. Musk took over. Afterward, their use rose to 3,964 times a day.

And antisemitic posts referring to Jews or Judaism soared more than 61 percent in the two weeks after Mr. Musk acquired the site.
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Last week, Mr. Musk proposed a widespread amnesty for accounts that Twitter’s previous leadership had suspended. And on Tuesday, he ended enforcement of a policy against Covid misinformation.
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The lack of action extends to new accounts affiliated with terror groups and others that Twitter previously banned. In the first 12 days after Mr. Musk assumed control, 450 accounts associated with ISIS were created, up 69 percent from the previous 12 days, according to the Institute for Strategic Dialogue, a think tank that studies online platforms.

Other social media companies are also increasingly concerned about how content is being moderated on Twitter.

When Meta, which owns Facebook and Instagram, found accounts associated with Russian and Chinese state-backed influence campaigns on its platforms last month, it tried to alert Twitter, said two members of Meta’s security team, who asked not to be named because they were not authorized to speak publicly. The two companies often communicated on these issues, since foreign influence campaigns typically linked fake accounts on Facebook to Twitter.

But this time was different. The emails to their counterparts at Twitter bounced or went unanswered, the Meta employees said, in a sign that those workers may have been fired.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/02/technology/twitter-hate-speech.html
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BisMarckie on December 02, 2022, 09:56:19 AM
The moral panic about twitter is the most embarassing shit ever.

Just don't use the site if you oppose the ownership, but that would include admitting that you are addicted to it and therefore can't.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 02, 2022, 10:28:56 AM
I agree.  Because social media isn't something that actually influences anything or causes any problems, the solution is just to personally log off to not be affected by it.  You know the old saying, what happens on Facebook stays on Facebook and it doesn't lead to armed individuals patrolling ballot drop-offs and drag shows.  Nor can someone actually like to use Twitter and be a proponent of making it better.  Twitter is bad, so getting worse, shouldn't concern anyone and it's hypocritical and a secret shame to indulge in it. 
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on December 02, 2022, 10:40:48 AM
Yep, for instance did you know that no real people died because of covid disinformation?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 02, 2022, 10:55:13 AM
I bet there were 50 people in Christchurch who severely regret not logging off of 4chan in order to protect themselves from being shot, but they just couldn't admit to being addicted to it.  Probably looking at cartoon frogs just before bullets started flying.   
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BisMarckie on December 02, 2022, 11:02:54 AM
This is the most disingenious way to argue any point, holy shit  :lol

I also didn't know 4chan was bought by Musk as well, must have been a package deal.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 02, 2022, 11:16:10 AM
The concern is not about ownership, it's the concern of content getting worse under a new owner.  Your point about just logging off being a solution to that and not doing so being hypocritical was dumb enough to warrant the sarcasm.   To look at the way social media has compounded social issues over the last decade and then to write off any concern over that as moral panic just because you have seen a few Tweets of people saying the sky is falling because Musk bought Twitter is disingenuous from the start.   
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on December 02, 2022, 11:20:00 AM
I agree.  Because social media isn't something that actually influences anything or causes any problems, the solution is just to personally log off to not be affected by it.  You know the old saying, what happens on Facebook stays on Facebook and it doesn't lead to armed individuals patrolling ballot drop-offs and drag shows.  Nor can someone actually like to use Twitter and be a proponent of making it better.  Twitter is bad, so getting worse, shouldn't concern anyone and it's hypocritical and a secret shame to indulge in it.

sorry, I can't agree with this sentiment

what if someone were to go on a site like reddit or resetera and read something that makes them feel sad or angry? like if they heard about how russia is attacking ukraine and their despair led them to decide to attack russian people in the streets? or negative news about climate change could make someone develop crazy ideas about harming their neighbors for using gas-guzzling vehicles? can't we hold these sites responsible for allowing the propagation of such violence-inducing information?

ideally there would be a near universal ban on content that could make anyone feel negative toward anyone else, because people are unpredictable, and their tendencies toward violence find their inception in such threads

for the same reason the news needs to stop drawing attention to mass shooters, we need to make sure we don't hear anything about countries of a mostly-homogeneous culture engaged in aggression against others, or negative actions committed by any global minorities of any type

hiding under the guise of "news" or "being informative" has gone on for long enough
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 02, 2022, 11:24:53 AM
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Before Elon Musk bought Twitter, slurs against Black Americans showed up on the social media service an average of 1,282 times a day. After the billionaire became Twitter’s owner, they jumped to 3,876 times a day.

Slurs against gay men appeared on Twitter 2,506 times a day on average before Mr. Musk took over. Afterward, their use rose to 3,964 times a day.

I have to admit, considering Twitter has about 230 million users who are active each month, I expected those numbers to be way, way higher, pre and post Musk.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 02, 2022, 11:52:46 AM
Uncle, you start by reducing the issue to absurdity. 

what if someone were to go on a site like reddit or resetera and read something that makes them feel sad or angry?

Well, what if this does happen?  People feel sad and angry all the time about a bunch of different things. Then you both-sides the issue based on hypotheticals that are not happening.

what if someone were to go on a site like reddit or resetera and read something that makes them feel sad or angry? like if they heard about how russia is attacking ukraine and their despair led them to decide to attack russian people in the streets? or negative news about climate change could make someone develop crazy ideas about harming their neighbors for using gas-guzzling vehicles? can't we hold these sites responsible for allowing the propagation of such violence-inducing information?

Presumably, you think people who are against rightwing violence are OK with perceived or made-up leftwing violence like attacking Russians or people with large cars.  And that because of this presumption we have to allow both situations to be fair, because if it did happen, that would necessitate a ban on all things since, by assertion, any random thing could set someone off to attack a Russian.


ideally there would be a near universal ban on content that could make anyone feel negative toward anyone else, because people are unpredictable, and their tendencies toward violence find their inception in such threads

Therefore the outcome is 1) there would be a near-universal ban on all speech and 2) we can't hold companies for individual actions.  Which would be bad, therefor any moderation is unacceptable.     

The problem with this is that not any old thing sets people off enough to murder someone.  It's not happening with both sides, and if it did, it would not change the argument.  While people individually are unpredictable, as groups they are not, and certain groups are the ones contributing to actual violence.  This is the whole idea of stochastic terrorism.  There is a large gap between the nebulous 'holding a site responsible' and advocating for moderation, especially when most are advocating for self-moderation.   Also by saying the news needs to stop drawing attention, you are advocating for self-moderation and it's no different than reddit banning a sub.       
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tuckers Law on December 02, 2022, 12:05:44 PM
 :lol :lol :lol
“Stochastic terrorism”
 :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on December 02, 2022, 12:32:52 PM
made-up leftwing violence like attacking Russians

I hesitate to share this, because if it causes you to feel negatively toward the people perpetrating these crimes it could lead you to take action, but I must shoulder that risk in order to shut down this misinformation

https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/05/30/ukraine-war-sparks-hate-crimes-germany

https://www.marxist.com/ridiculous-russian-boycotts-lead-to-xenophobic-hate-crimes.htm


Therefore the outcome is 1) there would be a near-universal ban on all speech

correct

people don't kill people, opinions do

if someone says on social media "the jews did a thing" and that opinion takes root in an impressionable mind, that person may eventually act on that faulty assumption

this is what is meant by the idea of stochastic terrorism

we cannot allow people to say "the jews did a thing" or "the russians are destroying ukraine" because even though these comments don't directly ask for violence, they lead inexorably toward them
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 02, 2022, 12:54:01 PM
You just reiterated your same argument by starting with an absurdity and supporting it with whataboutism. 

The idea that people are not influenced by social media interactions is absurd.  Maybe that's not what you think, but then the idea that we can't consider other people 'responsible' for what they say based on others' actions is just as absurd.  And it's absurd because of silly reductionism.  Let's go with your hypothetical of killing a Russian because someone read something on Reddit that got them mad.  The situations are very different if that person heard "the russians are destroying ukraine" and killed someone vs something engaging in a reddit where everyone is saying "the russians are destroying ukraine.  They are animals and all deserve to be shot."  What does 'responsibility' mean here?  It seems like a responsible thing to shut down that reddit.  How do you get shutting down this reddit means that SJWs can't discuss the Supernatural series finale on the possibility over people getting upset about it again?

We can not allow people to say "the Jews did a thing", which is a nice downplaying of what people actually say, BTW, because we have a vast recorded history of showing exactly what that leads too.  The difference between that and your Russian hypothetical is, well, one actually happens in reality and I feel like we should make decisions based on what actually happens.

edit:  those examples you shared are a great examples.  Clearly, on abstraction, those are equivalent to what is being discussed and you didn't have to surge the internet to find support for your silly example.  You a big fan of marxist.com?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 02, 2022, 01:22:13 PM
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Institute for Strategic Dialogue, a think tank that studies online platforms.

This is not CIA related at all :trumps


Anyhow it's pretty funny how the conversation has shifted from: "Elon Musk will allow the Republican party to influence the election with their covert Russian agents" to: "Elon should not be the one to decide who bans Ye after he says that he loves Hitler and fat shames Elon". Under Elon's reign I'm not seeing any less content of any content type. I would be mostly worried if he started to ban the liberal/woke side of things but he seems fine with both sides having a conversation, unlike most shitlibs who want to ban anyone that watched Dave Chapelle on SNL.

Also Trump getting unbanned but not Tweeting was the obvious ending to that arc. Yet the media predicted the end of the world if Elon unbanned Trump.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on December 02, 2022, 01:27:36 PM
The idea that people are not influenced by social media interactions is absurd.

uh yeah man, I'm agreeing with you here  ???

social media interactions are possibly the biggest threat to humanity, people behaving violently is not the problem, it's those who drive them to do so

a stray comment that makes others think there's some conspiracy to unravel absolves the terrorist of responsibility; all such comments need to be suppressed in order to ascertain that the idea originated in his own mind, rather than some external motivating source

just as women dressing too sexily lead men to sin, so too do provocative social media comments

I don't know why we would even limit our moderation to social media comments, shouldn't real life be moderated in the same way? skirts can be this short and no shorter, otherwise it's tantamount to exercising a stochastic terrorism on innocent eyes

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We can not allow people to say "the Jews did a thing", which is a nice downplaying of what people actually say

I'm aware of the power my words have and do my best not to spread hateful ideas, but if you feel the problem is better illustrated by saying such things outright, you are welcome to do so

I will not be responsible for kanye stumbling across thebore.com and accidentally taking away the wrong message
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 02, 2022, 01:34:33 PM
Please, go on and expand on that Nintex.  I'd like to hear your thoughts.  What do you mean by 'funny'?  What are you implying by this observed shift?  Are those concerns mutually exclusive?  Can a conversation shift without it implying something 'funny' about what is being argued?  Do you think that those summaries are accurate to what has been said or are they a bit coloured by stances on the issues?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 02, 2022, 01:37:05 PM
*banks and governments defraud everyone and leave Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya in ruins, creating the biggest migration and economic crisis since WW2 and cut so much healthcare capacity that hospitals can't handle a pandemic*

"Yelon Trump bad, your shitposting is literally destroying democracy" :crybaby

Please, go on and expand on that Nintex.  I'd like to hear your thoughts.  What do you mean by 'funny'?  What are you implying by this observed shift?  Are those concerns mutually exclusive?  Can a conversation shift without it implying something 'funny' about what is being argued?  Do you think that those summaries are accurate to what has been said or are they a bit coloured by stances on the issues?
I think all this panic over Twitter and Elon Musk is way overblown. As is the panic over Ye and Trump. In fact the panic is what keeps Trump's political brand alive to this day.
The 'myth' that he's the nightmare of the liberals.

People that carry out shootings or whatever have a whole different range of problems that can be activated with any trigger. It can be a tweet but it can also be a Donald Duck cartoon, a commercial or song lyrics.
These people aren't well.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 02, 2022, 01:53:40 PM
The idea that people are not influenced by social media interactions is absurd.

uh yeah man, I'm agreeing with you here  ???


Hence the "Maybe that's not what you think, but then ..."  which comes right after ???

And again you go from absurdism to absurdism.   A 'stray comment' is different from a community that is only 'stray comments'.  A 'stray comment' isn't really a 'stray comment' if, such comments have a history of encouraging violence, which is also different from a hypothetical 'stray comment'.   Unless you abstract enough, it's pretty easy to tell the difference.  It's also pretty easy to say that different things deserve different responses and 'responsibilities' also are different depending on the situation.  But once you conflate all these things, ya I can see how you go from a 'stray comment' to a ban on everything.   I know you're making a joke about trying not to commit a thought crime, but that only works if you have bought into the absurd conflations that I'm arguing against and all it does is highlight the absurdity.   

I don't even know how to begin to unpack the dressing analogy.       
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on December 02, 2022, 01:56:06 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/PLvsszR.png)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 02, 2022, 02:04:47 PM
https://twitter.com/persecutedsgin/status/1598396350559027200 (https://twitter.com/persecutedsgin/status/1598396350559027200)


Guess Netflix finally found their black Hitler.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 02, 2022, 02:26:06 PM
The chart showing number of Hitler mentions on Twitter over time is going up be spectacular
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on December 02, 2022, 02:30:30 PM
The concern is not about ownership, it's the concern of content getting worse under a new owner.  Your point about just logging off being a solution to that and not doing so being hypocritical was dumb enough to warrant the sarcasm.   To look at the way social media has compounded social issues over the last decade and then to write off any concern over that as moral panic just because you have seen a few Tweets of people saying the sky is falling because Musk bought Twitter is disingenuous from the start.

So explain to me how the pixels of social media are capable of transforming young men into mass murderers yet the pixels of Grand Theft Auto aren't?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on December 02, 2022, 02:41:35 PM
Using the term stochastic terrorism in any other manner than sarcastic is pretty fucking distinguished mentally-challenged
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 02, 2022, 02:51:24 PM
The concern is not about ownership, it's the concern of content getting worse under a new owner.  Your point about just logging off being a solution to that and not doing so being hypocritical was dumb enough to warrant the sarcasm.   To look at the way social media has compounded social issues over the last decade and then to write off any concern over that as moral panic just because you have seen a few Tweets of people saying the sky is falling because Musk bought Twitter is disingenuous from the start.

So explain to me how the pixels of social media are capable of transforming young men into mass murderers yet the pixels of Grand Theft Auto aren't?

Because the pixels are not the same pixels?  Just because people once said that video games cause violence does not mean saying another thing causes violence isn't true?  Like you can just look for yourself and go history shows video games don't cause violence but hate speech does.  Explain to me how you are so dumb that you think that just because arguments against two things take the same surface form that just because one is false the other thing must also be false?  Aren't you the user that got his panties in a twist when I stayed the Epoch Times isn't a valid news source?  Think that might explain things. 
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on December 02, 2022, 02:56:18 PM
  Like you can just look for yourself and go history shows video games don't cause violence but hate speech does. 

Absolute bollocks. Correlation is not causation.


I thought you were more intelligent than this.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 02, 2022, 03:06:43 PM
All you have pointed out is that social media is not the sole cause of violence? That is not a proof that it does not contributing factor.  Also, those are a wild set of examples to pull from.  Social media does no harm because Stalin and Buddy lived before social media.  Explain that! 
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on December 02, 2022, 03:32:10 PM
All you have pointed out is that social media is not the sole cause of violence? That is not a proof that it does not contributing factor.  Also, those are a wild set of examples to pull from.  Social media does no harm because Stalin and Buddy lived before social media.  Explain that!

exactly, those aren't the only examples, some young men have explicitly linked their own violent acts to the way women have chosen to dress in modern society and yet we refuse to do anything about that in the name of "muh freedums"

we will not be safe until all contributing factors have been mitigated, and there is no point at which we should relax and say "eh, probably good enough, the rest is just unsolvable human nature"

words have consequences.  people do not kill people.  opinions do.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 02, 2022, 03:48:26 PM
Free speech going well

https://mobile.twitter.com/PatchAdams03/status/1598676677831413763
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 02, 2022, 03:55:33 PM
We refuse to do anything when men act violently based on how women dress?  What?  Are you arguing (or saying that I am arguing) that dictating women to dress modestly is the same as hate dictating speech against women because both *might* have the desired effect of mitigating violence against women?  On the speech analogy that is like saying we shouldn't let gays on the forum because it riles up the Himus which is clearly a different response than saying Himu should be banned.  I do not see how you managed to flip the victim and perpetrator around there and think they are equivalent based on possible outcomes or thinking that what I am arguing for is just about outcomes.  Its another silly conflation.  We do actively suppress such men and society is better for it.  Incel behaviour is pretty identifiable and when those subreddits were banned it didn't lead to banning all speech.   Then you just jump to an extreme that if we mitigate one factor all such factors need to be also mitigated, which will inevitably lead to some scary future.  And imply responsibility has to be a zero-sum thing to boot. 
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on December 02, 2022, 04:17:50 PM
On the speech analogy that is like saying we shouldn't let gays on the forum because it riles up the Himus which is clearly a different response than saying Himu should be banned.

 :nope  banning the people who actively commit acts of violence

:ohyeah  banning the people who don't advocate for violence, but seem to rile up those who might
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 02, 2022, 04:25:29 PM
Cool reply man.  Let's not focus on your perplexing women analogy. 
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on December 02, 2022, 04:52:57 PM
Cool reply man.  Let's not focus on your perplexing women analogy.

that's what the post was about? people whose comments or choices provide motivation for others to act badly
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on December 02, 2022, 04:53:44 PM
Elon posting all of Hunter’s dick pics in 10!

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1598778884639653891
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 02, 2022, 05:04:21 PM
Ah, I see, so the women are the bigots in the analogy.  And because we don't dictate how women dress, we also can not dictate bigotry.  This makes a lot of sense, because, again, if we don't do one set of actions in one situation, it means that we can't do another set of actions in a different situation where those situations are connected on the tenuous analogy that a women dressing a certain way is the same as someone engaging in hate speech.       
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 02, 2022, 05:13:01 PM
For me the bigger social media problem is the radicalization of boomers on Facebook as opposed to the blue check shitlibs, weeb nazi's, joe rogan groupies, grifters and tankies duking it out on Twitter with the pepe's and shit posters egging them on.
On Twitter it takes a lot of effort to get any traction and everything is public. On Facebook your racist uncle can be village chief in the members only local Facebook group spreading terrible memes and no one will know about it.

Also I must be following the wrong accounts because outside of Kanye's midlife crisis I'm not seeing much of this extreme right or Nazi content even after Elon's "pardon".
From what I'm seeing most of the alt right is still focused on the trad wife breeder dream as well as pop culture like Disney being too woke or Square Enix censoring manga's or whatever has their panties in a bunch this week.
They're pretty much recycling the same contentTM except for Crypto because it's in the dumps. So that space has basically turned into finance bro's with actual cash making fun of all the poor kids who bet their life savings on some shit coins.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 02, 2022, 05:19:17 PM
Elon posting all of Hunter’s dick pics in 10!

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1598778884639653891

Live Q&A too
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 02, 2022, 05:36:30 PM
Sorry Nintex, delayed past your bed time
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 02, 2022, 05:39:05 PM
It's the weekend  :pimp
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on December 02, 2022, 06:15:18 PM
Ah, I see, so the women are the bigots in the analogy.  And because we don't dictate how women dress, we also can not dictate bigotry.  This makes a lot of sense, because, again, if we don't do one set of actions in one situation, it means that we can't do another set of actions in a different situation where those situations are connected on the tenuous analogy that a women dressing a certain way is the same as someone engaging in hate speech.       

so likewise you would argue that, as one example, simply pointing out the fact that a hospital provides gender-affirming care is neither hate speech nor stochastic terrorism, in fact under many circumstances it could be considered helpful information for those who are seeking such care

the hate speech is the people who take unprompted action when they see that and call the hospital and yell at the staff there
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 02, 2022, 06:24:03 PM
Musk at 4:59pm on a Friday

"Yeah, Imma gonna need you to stay in just a liiiiitttle bit late tonight"

Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 02, 2022, 06:27:31 PM
https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1598820834965131265 (https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1598820834965131265)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 02, 2022, 06:31:30 PM
K again, you are just both-sidings the issue and trying to pretend no one can differentiate between people calling for bigotry to be shut down and bigots calling for gender-affirming care to be shut down.  Just because, on abstraction, two groups of people are calling for two things to be shut down does not make them the same nor is it very hard to see the difference between the two unless you are stupid enough to twist yourself into dumb analogies.       
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on December 02, 2022, 06:43:57 PM
K again, you are just both-sidings the issue and trying to pretend no one can differentiate between people calling for bigotry to be shut down and bigots calling for gender-affirming care to be shut down.  Just because, on abstraction, two groups of people are calling for two things to be shut down does not make them the same nor is it very hard to see the difference between the two unless you are stupid enough to twist yourself into dumb analogies.     

no no, not specifically calling for it to be shut down, simply point out the fact that a hospital offers it (which is what libsoftiktok does)

example of matter-of-fact statement of what is included in the attached video:

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1558669742126223361

is stating a fact hate speech?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on December 02, 2022, 06:47:54 PM
He gave the files to Matt Taibbi

  :dead

https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598822959866683394
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 02, 2022, 06:48:33 PM
Yep, for instance did you know that no real people died because of covid disinformation?
I bet there were 50 people in Christchurch who severely regret not logging off of 4chan in order to protect themselves from being shot, but they just couldn't admit to being addicted to it.  Probably looking at cartoon frogs just before bullets started flying.   
What exactly are you two advocating for here?

Twitter had moderation before COVID and Christchurch, did after both those things and Musk has not said he will eliminate moderation and has even suggested things will be stricter than the Brandenburg standard despite previously suggesting all legal content will be allowed. 4chan and YouTube, two of the three websites Brenton Tarrant told police he used for inspiration, have and had moderation. Twitch and Facebook, two other websites with live streamed violence including mass shootings, have and had moderation. The only "large" website, 8chan, that refused to moderate (except people who made fun of its owners obviously) has all but been driven off the surface web specifically because it refuses to moderate illegal content such as child pornography.

There are bucketfuls of bodies piling up from the terrorism yet you seem to also want the perpetrators of these acts (people like yourself who have, perhaps semi-anonymously, posted legal content online) to avoid prison for what they've done. Do you want to change US and EU law to create a duty to moderate specific legal content, something that would violate current US and EU law and outlaw Twitter, Facebook, etc.?

As an aside, New Zealand did not criminalize any speech which "inspired" Tarrant, it criminalized the video and his specific speech/manifesto/whatever and attempted to use the police to hunt down citizens who posted on any website that featured it.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 02, 2022, 06:49:30 PM
And Taibbi is releasing it Tweet by tweet.  :snoop
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 02, 2022, 06:49:43 PM
And again, it is easy to determine hates speech and harassment.  It is not some nebulous thing.  Using the exact same words can mean different things depending on the context.  This is basic linguistics.   
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 02, 2022, 06:53:38 PM
And Taibbi is releasing it Tweet by tweet.  :snoop
This was always the risk of giving it to someone like Taibbi. :elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 02, 2022, 06:58:00 PM
https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598827602403160064 (https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598827602403160064)

Handle it jack :biden
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 02, 2022, 07:09:17 PM
Yep, for instance did you know that no real people died because of covid disinformation?
I bet there were 50 people in Christchurch who severely regret not logging off of 4chan in order to protect themselves from being shot, but they just couldn't admit to being addicted to it.  Probably looking at cartoon frogs just before bullets started flying.   
What exactly are you two advocating for here?

Twitter had moderation before COVID and Christchurch, did after both those things and Musk has not said he will eliminate moderation and has even suggested things will be stricter than the Brandenburg standard despite previously suggesting all legal content will be allowed. 4chan and YouTube, two of the three websites Brenton Tarrant told police he used for inspiration, have and had moderation. Twitch and Facebook, two other websites with live streamed violence including mass shootings, have and had moderation. The only "large" website, 8chan, that refused to moderate (except people who made fun of its owners obviously) has all but been driven off the surface web specifically because it refuses to moderate illegal content such as child pornography.

There are bucketfuls of bodies piling up from the terrorism yet you seem not to want the perpetrators of these acts (people like yourself, who may semi-anonymously, who have posted legal content online) to avoid prison for what they've done. Do you want to change US and EU law to create a duty to moderate specific legal content, something that would violate current US and EU law and outlaw Twitter, Facebook, etc.?

1) We don't need take Musks word as valid and there is a decent history saying that doing so is a bad idea
2) Just because there was moderation that did not work does not mean that less moderation is better or won't worsen the situation.  The opposite is what is being argued.  With Musk's take over the concern was that there would be less moderation, thus making a bad situation worse.  So unless we take his word that things will be sticker, which is kind of obviously not true given his amnesty, to the point where I don't even know why you included that bit, that concern stands.
3) There is a gulf between having people arrested and being a proponent of banning people on Twitter, obviously.  Common I know your not uncle dumb, why are you arguing the same way with slightly more articulation?  Do you think it is a fair characterization that people concerned about hate speech and violence necessarily need to be advocating for people to be arrested?  Why does wanting to prevent hate speech through social media moderation necessitate also advocating for people to be arrested?  Like its the same fucking argument, any limit of free speech leads to horrible situations, therefore we can't limit free speech.  But how you get from banning people on Twitter to arrests and changes in laws is absurd, unless you are purposefully trying to make one position sound absurd?  You wouldn't be doing that Benji, would you? 



Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 02, 2022, 07:12:35 PM
So all you're arguing is that you personally think Twitter should have stricter moderation and that this is just a good idea you would suggest? If that's the case then I apologize for lumping you with Occam.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on December 02, 2022, 07:17:13 PM
And again, it is easy to determine hates speech and harassment.  It is not some nebulous thing.  Using the exact same words can mean different things depending on the context.  This is basic linguistics.

stating a fact without even editorializing is hate speech.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 02, 2022, 07:19:30 PM
Real question Benji, as the biggest free speech advocate here, why were you willing to engage with Himu on just about anything, but were quiet as a mouse when it came to his bigoted rants? I want us to have a concrete example to work on.  Is this the correct response or sensible solution to bigotry? Is your stance, that this is just Himu and nothing can be done, and if others are uncomfortable they should leave?     
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 02, 2022, 07:21:56 PM
Real question Benji, as the biggest free speech advocate here, why were you willing to engage with Himu on just about anything, but were quiet as a mouse when it came to his bigoted rants? I want us to have a concrete example to work on.  Is this the correct response or sensible solution to bigotry? Is your stance, that this is just Himu and nothing can be done, and if others are uncomfortable they should leave?     
No poster has a duty to respond to anything, I would not post on a forum that compelled speech.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 02, 2022, 07:31:34 PM
Real question Benji, as the biggest free speech advocate here, why were you willing to engage with Himu on just about anything, but were quiet as a mouse when it came to his bigoted rants? I want us to have a concrete example to work on.  Is this the correct response or sensible solution to bigotry? Is your stance, that this is just Himu and nothing can be done, and if others are uncomfortable they should leave?     
No poster has a duty to respond to anything, I would not post on a forum that compelled speech.

You don't have a duty or a responsibility to do anything, I'm asking why didn't you.  Is saying someone is wrong about something a limit on their free speech?  Is banning a poster for hate speech a bridge too far?   I'm honestly asking because it feels like the Bore is evidence that the kind of free speech haven and hands-off moderation being at least implicitly argued for does not work.  You asked for my opinions on solutions, I'm asking for yours and I'm trying to understand a value system that values free speech above everything else, because it is the primal right from which all others flow, but then dismisses also saying something against bigotry as not my duty.   

And this is mostly for the clowns in the audience:

1) I am not compelling speech
2) I am not saying you agree with Himu
3) I am not saying you are a bigot
4) I am not calling for you to be banned
5) I am not calling for the EU to change its laws and have you arrested
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 02, 2022, 07:46:23 PM
You don't have a duty or a responsibility to do anything, I'm asking why didn't you.  Is saying someone is wrong about something a limit on their free speech?  Is banning a poster for hate speech a bridge too far?
Uh, no, I support free speech.

Asking why I didn't respond to a specific post made by someone else is implying that I had a duty to reply. If you're merely curious it's because I tend not to argue with the religious about their religion, I'm irreligious and have never not been so I don't even get it at all and they all sound like cults to me so it's not a field I feel remotely qualified to put things in terms the religious would understand, and I have poked at Himu's gay agenda conspiracy theory before. (Additionally, many of Himu's posts on his latest interests are simply not able to be responded to because it would take years to address each and every claim.)

If all you're talking about is which moderation standards people should adopt because they're good ideas (or not adopt because they're bad ideas), then I again apologize for lumping you in with Occam. In general, I believe moderation standards should be lax, clear and equally enforced.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 02, 2022, 07:54:46 PM
OK, I just wanted to be clear on what free speech actually means in practice.  And I wanted to understand, why this debate was worth your engagement but Himu's was not, and it's because you are not qualified to make judgments about religious matters.  A few other questions, do you think Himu's behaviour in one context, where he is ranting about his gay agenda conspiracy theory, should preclude interacting with him in other contexts? Or to put it another way, does encouraging him in other contexts, but ignoring the bigotry, also implicitly encourage this?  The reason I ask is that earlier in the thread you said something along the lines that 'off-site' behavior shouldn't have onsite consequences when referring to Trump's election fraud claims, if IRC.  Does this decontextualization also apply across a users posts.  Like I'm wondering if each post should be taken as separate instances and decontexualized in order to have a clear and equally enforced standard?  If this is not possible, does this mean that moderation standards should be lowered to clear violations where a specific post can be pointed at as a smoking gun?   
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 02, 2022, 07:57:24 PM
I care about free speech but not religious nutters? Is that weird?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 02, 2022, 08:07:32 PM
I care about free speech but not religious nutters? Is that weird?

I value fighting hate over free speech.  It's weird to me to see a value system that seemingly stops at free speech.  Like there are things that get us going, and no one will be consistent about their values, but I truly do not understand about being passionate about free speech and then being able to dismiss bigotry as religious nuttery.  And I see how that goes, as religious nuttery is free speech too, but man does that seem like bunk in practice.  It's one thing to argue why laws need to respect that, it's another thing to argue for moderation to respect that, and it's totally another thing to make it a personal philosophy about engagement. 
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 02, 2022, 08:16:52 PM
I value fighting hate over free speech.  It's weird to me to see a value system that seemingly stops at free speech.  Like there are things that get us going, and no one will be consistent about their values, but I truly do not understand about being passionate about free speech and then being able to dismiss bigotry as religious nuttery.  And I see how that goes, as religious nuttery is free speech too, but man does that seem like bunk in practice.  It's one thing to argue why laws need to respect that, it's another thing to argue for moderation to respect that, and it's totally another thing to make it a personal philosophy about engagement.
I have no idea what you're even trying to accuse me of at this point.

You asked why I posted about one thing (you and Occam seemingly alleging that scores of deaths were directly caused by too much free speech) and did not respond to some other post (unspecified Himu post) and I told you. From this you decided I have "a value system that seemingly stops at free speech" and now after saying I didn't have a duty to respond to any posts you're back to attacking me for not responding to a specific post you wanted me to respond to but never asked me to? And what does any of this have to do with free speech? Or moderation?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on December 02, 2022, 08:20:08 PM
I'm honestly asking because it feels like the Bore is evidence that the kind of free speech haven and hands-off moderation being at least implicitly argued for does not work.

what real-world violence can be traced back to statements made on thebore?

or it doesn't work because you find it distasteful and it makes you not want to post here? isn't that your decision and no one else's? as long as real world consequences don't occur beyond speech, what basis is there to criticize?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on December 02, 2022, 08:24:48 PM
The saner ones get driven away and eventually only the refuse remains.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tuckers Law on December 02, 2022, 08:27:43 PM
I'm honestly asking because it feels like the Bore is evidence that the kind of free speech haven and hands-off moderation being at least implicitly argued for does not work.

what real-world violence can be traced back to statements made on thebore?

or it doesn't work because you find it distasteful and it makes you not want to post here? isn't that your decision and no one else's? as long as real world consequences don't occur beyond speech, what basis is there to criticize?

Hey now! :ufup

Some reseterans tried to get Stufte fired for what he posted here, and that's kind of like violence, let's call it financial-violence.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on December 02, 2022, 08:32:54 PM
The saner ones get driven away and eventually only the refuse remains.

and to other minds which all consider themselves sane, a different perspective means a different assessment of what occurs

what does this have to do with ending real-world violence through stricter moderation? if no one is actually advocating for violence, and no violence that can be traced back to speech on a particular social media platform is occuring, then everything is operating as it should
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 02, 2022, 08:41:30 PM
I value fighting hate over free speech.  It's weird to me to see a value system that seemingly stops at free speech.  Like there are things that get us going, and no one will be consistent about their values, but I truly do not understand about being passionate about free speech and then being able to dismiss bigotry as religious nuttery.  And I see how that goes, as religious nuttery is free speech too, but man does that seem like bunk in practice.  It's one thing to argue why laws need to respect that, it's another thing to argue for moderation to respect that, and it's totally another thing to make it a personal philosophy about engagement.
I have no idea what you're even trying to accuse me of at this point.

You asked why I posted about one thing (you and Occam seemingly alleging that scores of deaths were directly caused by too much free speech) and did not respond to some other post (unspecified Himu post) and I told you. From this you decided I have "a value system that seemingly stops at free speech" and now after saying I didn't have a duty to respond to any posts you're back to attacking me for not responding to a specific post you wanted me to respond to but never asked me to? And what does any of this have to do with free speech? Or moderation?

I'm not accusing you of anything.  I'm saying that in the same way I think people do not have a duty to help an old lady as she is getting robbed, people that don't help her are kind of gross, especially if they are the kind of people who have advocated to create the kind of situation where old ladies get robbed.  You are advocating for minimal moderation, and then when something happens, 'going not my duty', or worse, saying nothing ought to be done because it goes against your personal free speech beliefs or infringes on others' free speech, as if free speech on the bore and in the law are the thing.  You saw something and said nothing.  You had no duty to say anything but you did have the option.  Sure, you can argue that a duty is implied if you face the social stigma of me questioning you for not doing it, but I'm not going to buy that.  The point is we have seen what you advocate for in action and I'm questing if that is actually good and something desirable.  Sure free speech is a great value, and something no sane person would argue against, surely, but it seems like Himu is a decent case study against your philosophy in application.  It seem like if you value free speech above all things, the solution to bigotry is to sit back and watch.         
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 02, 2022, 08:45:37 PM
I'm not accusing you of anything.  I'm saying that in the same way I think people do not have a duty to help an old lady as she is getting robbed, people that don't help her are kind of gross, especially if they are the kind of people who have advocated to create the kind of situation where old ladies get robbed.  You are advocating for minimal moderation, and then when something happens, 'going not my duty', or worse, saying nothing ought to be done because it goes against your personal free speech beliefs or infringes on others' free speech, as if free speech on the bore and in the law are the thing.  You saw something and said nothing.  You had no duty to say anything but you did have the option.  Sure, you can argue that a duty is implied if you face the social stigma of me questioning you for not doing it, but I'm not going to buy that.  The point is we have seen what you advocate for in action and I'm questing if that is actually good and something desirable.  Sure free speech is a great value, and something no sane person would argue against, surely, but it seems like Himu is a decent case study against your philosophy in application.  It seem like if you value free speech above all things, the solution to bigotry is to sit back and watch.         
What are you even talking about dude? When did I not respond to Himu because of something to do with free speech beliefs? When did I advocate for minimal moderation other than outline my general principles after you started asking?

I don't want Himu imprisoned for posting anything legal on The Bore, you have implied you completely agree, so we agree 100% on free speech here.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 02, 2022, 08:59:59 PM
Actually, I am accusing you of something.  You did not reply to Himu's bigotry.  You said that it was because of your lack of religious expertise.   That is bullshit.  Do you seriously think you need to be able to argue the Quran in depth to be able to say, 'this makes me or other people uncomfortable, knock it off our I'm done engaging with you?',  I'm assuming that such a response goes against your notion of free speech and hence why it was not done.  Your minimal moderation advocacy can be deduced by what you are arguing for, silly shit like thinking off-site behavior should not have onsite consequences. 

You don't have a duty or a responsibility to do anything, I'm asking why didn't you.  Is saying someone is wrong about something a limit on their free speech?  Is banning a poster for hate speech a bridge too far?
Uh, no, I support free speech.


We do not agree.  When did you advocate for minimal moderation?  Right there bud.   
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 02, 2022, 09:09:03 PM
Actually, I am accusing you of something.  You did not reply to Himu's bigotry.  You said that it was because of your lack of religious expertise.   That is bullshit.  Do you seriously think you need to be able to argue the Quran in depth to be able to say, 'this makes me or other people uncomfortable, knock it off our I'm done engaging with you?',  I'm assuming that such a response goes against your notion of free speech and hence why it was not done.
So you do think I have a duty to respond to posts you want me to? Whatever post you wanted me to respond but didn't ask me to I probably didn't even read, especially if it was a giant Himu post where I knew where it was going from the start. Apparently now my not responding to posts I didn't read is some kind of "notion of free speech"? And that I should be going around denouncing posters for posts I didn't even read? Even if I did read it now I have a duty to respond to it and try to convince Himu of the error of his ways rather than think "lol dum" and look at something else? Or else what? An accusation this is somehow a betrayal of my principles? Somehow proof that imprisoning people for speech is superior to free speech? Or just a warning that I'll be added to the list next?

You don't have a duty or a responsibility to do anything, I'm asking why didn't you.  Is saying someone is wrong about something a limit on their free speech?  Is banning a poster for hate speech a bridge too far?
Uh, no, I support free speech.


We do not agree.  When did you advocate for minimal moderation?  Right there bud.   
If thinking posters should be able to respond to others and moderators should be able to ban posters is "miminal moderation" then, yes, I advocate for it. :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on December 02, 2022, 09:12:17 PM
You saw something and said nothing.

Do you seriously think you need to be able to argue the Quran in depth to be able to say, 'this makes me or other people uncomfortable, knock it off our I'm done engaging with you?'

if you saw it then where were you? I see a lot of occam posts in proximity to himu, but no madrun

:idont
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 02, 2022, 09:27:21 PM
Ok, now you are pretending to not be aware of what Himu was posting because you didn't read it as you did not want to engage with his bigotry.  Again not a duty, just a schmuck for ignoring those posts while replying to others. 

Somehow proof that imprisoning people for speech is superior to free speech? Or just a warning that I'll be added to the list next?

And there it is, we have already established that this was a non-sense thing from the start.  You came in hot because of your free speech fetishism, trying to mischaracterize my argument as wanting the EU to imprison people for free speech, and get right back at it when trying to dismiss what is being said now.  When you come in hot for this, but ignore Himu that says something about you and the things you value.  Maybe it was a free speech thing, maybe religious expertise, maybe you didn't read his posts.  Sure.  And before you come back to duty or compelled speech, shut the fuck up. 
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 02, 2022, 09:29:43 PM
You saw something and said nothing.

Do you seriously think you need to be able to argue the Quran in depth to be able to say, 'this makes me or other people uncomfortable, knock it off our I'm done engaging with you?'

if you saw it then where were you? I see a lot of occam posts in proximity to himu, but no madrun

:idont

You can look at my post history for such.  But teehee it's hypocritical to call someone actively engaging with him for not calling him out when you don't do it at every post. 
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on December 02, 2022, 09:38:32 PM
I thought every post was important? if you see something, say something

if we don't see a reply we have to assume tacit approval on your part, similar to how we can assume the same for benji

fighting against hate takes a lot of vigilance, every time someone posts a fact, a wikipedia link, a dictionary entry that constitutes hate speech in the current context unlike last week, we must point it out

stay strong  :respect
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 02, 2022, 09:40:41 PM
You're right.  I see that you are a dumb fucking animal.  I see it, got to say it.  Thanks for the motivation. 
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 02, 2022, 09:45:02 PM
Ok, now you are pretending to not be aware of what Himu was posting because you didn't read it as you did not want to engage with his bigotry.  Again not a duty, just a schmuck for ignoring those posts while replying to others. 

Somehow proof that imprisoning people for speech is superior to free speech? Or just a warning that I'll be added to the list next?

And there it is, we have already established that this was a non-sense thing from the start.  You came in hot because of your free speech fetishism, trying to mischaracterize my argument as wanting the EU to imprison people for free speech, and get right back at it when trying to dismiss what is being said now.  When you come in hot for this, but ignore Himu that says something about you and the things you value.  Maybe it was a free speech thing, maybe religious expertise, maybe you didn't read his posts.  Sure.  And before you come back to duty or compelled speech, shut the fuck up.
Ah, so you were just being a complete asshole by accusing innocent people of having caused mass death. You didn't actually have any point here other than to spread hate and try to take me to task for something you claim I don't need to do and you never asked me to do.

Let me know when you want to get back to free speech or moderation or Twitter or Elon Musk instead of whatever crawled up your ass about me personally for not meeting your undeclared standards.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on December 02, 2022, 09:45:22 PM
You're right.  I see that you are a dumb fucking animal.  I see it, got to say it.  Thanks for the motivation.

that's perfect, that's the kind of fiery intensity required to make sure hate is kept as far as possible from social media platforms

:wow
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 02, 2022, 09:51:34 PM
Ok, now you are pretending to not be aware of what Himu was posting because you didn't read it as you did not want to engage with his bigotry.  Again not a duty, just a schmuck for ignoring those posts while replying to others. 

Somehow proof that imprisoning people for speech is superior to free speech? Or just a warning that I'll be added to the list next?

And there it is, we have already established that this was a non-sense thing from the start.  You came in hot because of your free speech fetishism, trying to mischaracterize my argument as wanting the EU to imprison people for free speech, and get right back at it when trying to dismiss what is being said now.  When you come in hot for this, but ignore Himu that says something about you and the things you value.  Maybe it was a free speech thing, maybe religious expertise, maybe you didn't read his posts.  Sure.  And before you come back to duty or compelled speech, shut the fuck up.
Ah, so you were just being a complete asshole by accusing innocent people of having caused mass death. You didn't actually have any point here other than to spread hate and try to take me to task for something you claim I don't need to do and you never asked me to do.

Let me know when you want to get back to free speech or moderation or Twitter or Elon Musk instead of whatever crawled up your ass about me personally for not meeting your undeclared standards.

Sure Benjo, will do.  edit: Also cool conflation of hate speech and being mean.  Great minds think a like.

You're right.  I see that you are a dumb fucking animal.  I see it, got to say it.  Thanks for the motivation.

that's perfect, that's the kind of fiery intensity required to make sure hate is kept as far as possible from social media platforms

:wow

Cool conflation of hate speech with being mean to you.  Or do you identify as a dumb fucking animal now and think that's a protected group?

Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on December 02, 2022, 09:52:02 PM
You're right.  I see that you are a dumb fucking animal.  I see it, got to say it.  Thanks for the motivation.

Careful, now. That sounds like hate speech. You don't want to make Uncle do a genocide.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 02, 2022, 09:53:16 PM
You're right.  I see that you are a dumb fucking animal.  I see it, got to say it.  Thanks for the motivation.

Careful, now. That sounds like hate speech. You don't want to make Uncle do a genocide.

:dead
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 02, 2022, 09:54:11 PM
Sure Benjo, will do.  edit: Also cool conflation of hate speech and being mean.  Great minds think a like.
I did no such conflation.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on December 02, 2022, 09:54:35 PM
Cool conflation of hate speech with being mean to you.  Or do you identify as a dumb fucking animal now and think that's a protected group?

whoa, hey now, I didn't say you hated anyone, I just approve of the intensity

as long as you keep responding passionately to posts like himu's, doggedly make sure he cannot spread his hate, then the world will be slightly safer
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 02, 2022, 09:57:10 PM
Sure Benjo, will do.  edit: Also cool conflation of hate speech and being mean.  Great minds think a like.
I did no such conflation.

Sure was a word choice then, in a discussion about hate speech.  But hey at least you have cover for not being lumped in with the other chumps. 
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 02, 2022, 10:07:12 PM
I see accusing millions of people of being active participants in a horrific crime on the basis of a shared characteristic to be an equivalent form of hate as accusing LGBT+ people of being groomers, especially if in both cases you're saying "someone should do something to stop this" without getting specific about what you want, sorry.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 02, 2022, 10:25:28 PM
I know you do.  That is kind of the issue.  One is clearly hate speech directed towards LGBT people.  Now I don't know if you actually see a difference between hate speech directed at this group vs hate speech directed at the millions of bigots I'm accusing of being active participants in a horrific crime (?) or if one is just hate and the other hate speech or if your free speech sensibilities lead you to think that hate speech isn't thing, which some people believe, or if you are just trying to make a quip.  Either way, the hate is the same because once you abstract each group it's just a set of people being disliked.  It's not odd to compare the plight bigots face to the plight of LGBT people at all.  In the same way, it's not odd that uncle compared women and bigots.  You clowns sharing accounts?

Anyways I'm done replying but I will let you know when I want to get back to free speech or moderation or Twitter or Elon Musk instead of whatever crawled up my ass about you personally for not meeting my undeclared standards.

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Teehee, Uncle, I'm seeing the next post and not saying anything.  What a hypocrite!  Good joke.
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Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 02, 2022, 10:37:32 PM
hate speech directed at the millions of bigots I'm accusing of being active participants in a horrific crime ...  It's not odd to compare the plight bigots face
You just did it again, you accused all these people of being bigots based on a single characteristic you know about them.

Sorry for replying to the content of your posts, in the future I will think about only replying to the posts that you want me to in the ways you want me to without ever informing anyone of this standard you will then hold against others who reply solely to the content of your posts and who have clearly aggravated you through objecting to imprisoning people for their speech. Especially their legal speech.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on December 02, 2022, 10:48:35 PM
What the fuck is wrong with you people :mindblown
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 02, 2022, 10:56:46 PM
What the fuck is wrong with you people :mindblown
Lack of appropriate levels of moderation.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on December 02, 2022, 11:18:49 PM
anyway, those tweets  :whew

https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598837337584062466

https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598838041371516929
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on December 02, 2022, 11:23:10 PM
The saner ones get driven away and eventually only the refuse remains.
Imagine calling the Shostacord the "sane" ones...lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on December 02, 2022, 11:31:57 PM
what the fuck  :mindblown

https://www.teslarati.com/twitter-taking-child-exploitation-seriously/

Quote
She pointed out that under the new leadership, Twitter is “taking child exploitation seriously.” However, there is still much work to be done. There is an ongoing lawsuit against the social media platform that began before Elon Musk purchased it. The plaintiffs, John Doe 1 and John Doe 2 were minors who were sexually exploited, and videos of that exploitation were posted to Twitter. When the two, who are now adults, begged Twitter to remove the content, Twitter refused.

The content that the plaintiffs wanted Twitter to remove had over 167,000 views and 2,223 retweets.

 :crazy

the article goes on to say that the new twitter administration is actually taking this shit seriously and has practically overnight destroyed hashtags that were previously being used to traffic child exploitation materials


twitter takes direct action to ban individuals based on brief emails from specific democrats, while at the same time refuses to remove child porn when the victims ask for it to be taken down?

what the fuck
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on December 02, 2022, 11:35:43 PM
Man, this is the most distinguished mentally-challenged thread on the bore and it is the gift that just keeps on giving.
 :dice
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 02, 2022, 11:45:25 PM
anyway, those tweets  :whew

twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598837337584062466

twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598838041371516929
Good on Ro Khanna, I don't necessarily see a concern with Twitter blocking whatever they want but he made a much better case against this than many of the people who just want to use it as an inciting event to hobble free speech overall.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tuckers Law on December 03, 2022, 12:45:27 AM
anyway, those tweets  :whew

twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598837337584062466

twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598838041371516929
Good on Ro Khanna, I don't necessarily see a concern with Twitter blocking whatever they want but he made a much better case against this than many of the people who just want to use it as an inciting event to hobble free speech overall.

I don't think you understand, Benji.  The stochastic terrororisms of it all must be prevented!  Hate speech kills more people than bullets!  DO YOU NOW SEE THE VIOLENCE INHERENT IN THE SYSTEM?!?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Transhuman on December 03, 2022, 12:56:48 AM
You know I was on the fence on tolerance for gay people but some of Himu's posts recently have been mighty convincing and articulate amiright fellas?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on December 03, 2022, 01:11:22 AM

anyway, those tweets  :whew

twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598837337584062466

twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598838041371516929
Good on Ro Khanna, I don't necessarily see a concern with Twitter blocking whatever they want but he made a much better case against this than many of the people who just want to use it as an inciting event to hobble free speech overall.

I don't think you understand, Benji.  The stochastic terrororisms of it all must be prevented!  Hate speech kills more people than bullets!  DO YOU NOW SEE THE VIOLENCE INHERENT IN THE SYSTEM?!?
You know I was on the fence on tolerance for gay people but some of Himu's posts recently have been mighty convincing and articulate amiright fellas?
Literal bullets
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 03, 2022, 01:29:13 AM
I don't think you understand, Benji.  The stochastic terrororisms of it all must be prevented!  Hate speech kills more people than bullets! DO YOU NOW SEE THE VIOLENCE INHERENT IN THE SYSTEM?!?
Unfortunately as a pacifist committed to non-violence there's nothing I can do.

You know I was on the fence on tolerance for gay people but some of Himu's posts recently have been mighty convincing and articulate amiright fellas?
This isn't about you, narcissist, this is about the endless masses of slack-jawed morons out there who instantly adopt every component of the last thing they heard, often to the greatest extreme, who will then go out there and democracy wrong purely because of a quirk mandated by linear time.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 03, 2022, 02:02:37 AM
The "decentralized" thing doesn't seem to be sticking for some people:
https://twitter.com/mhucka/status/1597724246037258241
https://twitter.com/mhucka/status/1597727397188468737
https://twitter.com/kiingbooooo/status/1596191861328445441

Lots of people saying Mastodon needs to "do something" about this too:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fi6FQZVWIAMBMP-?format=jpg&name=small)
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https://twitter.com/jaketeater/status/1598361841385803776
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Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tuckers Law on December 03, 2022, 02:27:23 AM
Unfortunately as a pacifist committed to non-violence there's nothing I can do.

Your future crimes have been noted and pertinent information given to the proper authorities.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 03, 2022, 03:58:21 AM
Holy shit, the Trump staffer mailing "at least pretend to care".
It was obviously glossed over by the MSM but the Hunter Biden censorship story is bigger than watergate. A couple of Twitter activists right then and there decided the election and willingly put the US at risk of blackmail. What's even more shocking is that they knew at the highest levels on the hill. No wonder Trump was so pissed at the Republicans.

Most western media is simply no better than north korean state TV but at least in North Korea they don't mix the lies with moral grand standing.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 03, 2022, 04:05:36 AM
It was obviously glossed over by the MSM but the Hunter Biden censorship story is bigger than watergate. A couple of Twitter activists right then and there decided the election and willingly put the US at risk of blackmail.
Like I said to another poster, you're allowed to think for yourself, you don't have to just repeat the exact phrasings you read on Twitter.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 03, 2022, 04:11:02 AM
It really is a bombshell moment Benji the walls are closing in the President is under pressure to resign and very nervous according to people familiar with the matter.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: bork on December 03, 2022, 08:56:43 AM
Holy shit, the Trump staffer mailing "at least pretend to care".
It was obviously glossed over by the MSM but the Hunter Biden censorship story is bigger than watergate. A couple of Twitter activists right then and there decided the election and willingly put the US at risk of blackmail. What's even more shocking is that they knew at the highest levels on the hill. No wonder Trump was so pissed at the Republicans.

Most western media is simply no better than north korean state TV but at least in North Korea they don't mix the lies with moral grand standing.

It really is a bombshell moment Benji the walls are closing in the President is under pressure to resign and very nervous according to people familiar with the matter.

https://youtu.be/VGTMcyVx9-4
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 03, 2022, 09:50:16 AM
Go easy on him, bork, our American politics enthusiast probably doesn't know that Watergate was a President engaged in a bunch of criminal conspiracies to commit no-fooling crimes against people entirely for uh... spite.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 03, 2022, 02:01:46 PM
https://twitter.com/ashtonpittman/status/1598753106086461455

Musk just randomly unbanning old accounts is pretty damn dumb
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on December 03, 2022, 03:49:05 PM
I have seen random accounts i followed pop back up and be like "i'm back"


half the time i didnt even realise they were banned lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 03, 2022, 05:04:44 PM
Holy shit, the Trump staffer mailing "at least pretend to care".
It was obviously glossed over by the MSM but the Hunter Biden censorship story is bigger than watergate. A couple of Twitter activists right then and there decided the election and willingly put the US at risk of blackmail. What's even more shocking is that they knew at the highest levels on the hill. No wonder Trump was so pissed at the Republicans.

Most western media is simply no better than north korean state TV but at least in North Korea they don't mix the lies with moral grand standing.

It really is a bombshell moment Benji the walls are closing in the President is under pressure to resign and very nervous according to people familiar with the matter.

https://youtu.be/VGTMcyVx9-4
Same place you can find Iraq WMD's  :idont
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 04, 2022, 04:01:46 AM
Quote from: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2349641-most-people-who-threatened-to-quit-twitter-for-mastodon-havent-left/
Only a handful of Twitter users who have threatened to leave the social network for open-source alternative Mastodon have actually deleted their Twitter accounts.

An analysis of more than 140,000 Twitter users shows that although plenty of people have said they are leaving the site, only 1.6 per cent have wholly abandoned the platform, which was bought by entrepreneur Elon Musk in late October.
:elon

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Not a good way to survey, there's value in parking an account even if you don't use it.
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Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on December 04, 2022, 07:23:42 AM
I know you do.  That is kind of the issue.  One is clearly hate speech directed towards LGBT people.  Now I don't know if you actually see a difference between hate speech directed at this group vs hate speech directed at the millions of bigots I'm accusing of being active participants in a horrific crime (?) or if one is just hate and the other hate speech or if your free speech sensibilities lead you to think that hate speech isn't thing, which some people believe, or if you are just trying to make a quip.  Either way, the hate is the same because once you abstract each group it's just a set of people being disliked.  It's not odd to compare the plight bigots face to the plight of LGBT people at all.  In the same way, it's not odd that uncle compared women and bigots.  You clowns sharing accounts?

Anyways I'm done replying but I will let you know when I want to get back to free speech or moderation or Twitter or Elon Musk instead of whatever crawled up my ass about you personally for not meeting my undeclared standards.

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Teehee, Uncle, I'm seeing the next post and not saying anything.  What a hypocrite!  Good joke.
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I think where the point of contention lies that you are not addressing and getting push back on, is that you seem to be saying that removing bigotry or hate speech from your presence because you are uncomfortable with it is equivalent to stopping it (or the underlying causes of it), when that isn't any more true than saying you're fixing homelessness by bussing them all over to the next town to deal with.

Yes, there's plenty of historical precedent for speech leading to action. There's just as much evidence of suppressed speech further radicalising people than being available for open debate, debunking, and dismantling.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: D3RANG3D on December 04, 2022, 08:16:37 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1599194927333793792

 :woody
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 04, 2022, 08:37:54 AM
I get your point, but it is not correct.  It is not true that the only way to prevent bigotry is to change hearts and minds.  That is, the only way to stop bigotry is to stop it from existing, but it is not the only way for it to stop harming other people, which is generally the main concern.  I don't care what Himu thinks about gay people as long as he is not acting on it, which includes speech.  We allowed him to say shit here, how did that help him change his mind?  Who sat down with him and changed his mind?  Is he the kind of person that will change his mind given evidence or just double down and make posts along the lines 'if you are all upset it means I'm doing it right'?   Another example is incels.  Just because banning incel communities does not fix these people's views on women or their self-esteem, it does not mean it doesn't stop them from egging each other on and making the situation worse.  What is the evidence that suppressing speech further radicalizes people?   You seem to be deducing that isolating them just prevents opportunities to change hearts and minds, which is true, but it only works on the assumption that changing hearts and minds is the ultimate goal and anything short of that doesn't solve bigoty.  The issue with open communication is that is rarely works, and it works far less than the amount that bigoted communities recruit new members, leading to large communities that are easily insular and safe from criticism and more harm than good.  This is also not to mention that the best way to prevent  bigotry is to prevent them from becoming one in the first place, which is more likely to happen if such people can not be easily exposed to cush communities.   

Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on December 04, 2022, 09:02:45 AM
I get your point, but it is not correct.  It is not true that the only way to prevent bigotry is to change hearts and minds.  That is, the only way to stop bigotry is to stop it from existing, but it is not the only way for it to stop harming other people, which is generally the main concern.  I don't care what Himu thinks about gay people as long as he is not acting on it, which includes speech.  We allowed him to say shit here, how did that help him change his mind?  Who sat down with him and changed his mind?  Is he the kind of person that will change his mind given evidence or just double down and make posts along the lines 'if you are all upset it means I'm doing it right'?   Another example is incels.  Just because banning incel communities does not fix these people's views on women or their self-esteem, it does not mean it doesn't stop them from egging each other on and making the situation worse.  What is the evidence that suppressing speech further radicalizes people?   You seem to be deducing that isolating them just prevents opportunities to change hearts and minds, which is true, but it only works on the assumption that changing hearts and minds is the ultimate goal and anything short of that doesn't solve bigoty.  The issue with open communication is that is rarely works, and it works far less than the amount that bigoted communities recruit new members, leading to large communities that are easily insular and safe from criticism and more harm than good.  This is also not to mention that the best way to prevent  bigotry is to prevent them from becoming one in the first place, which is more likely to happen if such people can not be easily exposed to cush communities.

I mean... this isn't a simple topic and there aren't any easy answers, so I'm going to unpack some unspoken assumptions, and try and talk in generalities rather than specifics because ultimately when you're talking about things like bigotry / racism / sexism / homophobia etc you're talking about specific (toxic) ideologies, and how they can be dismantled entirely, which - first unspoken assumption to unpack - is an impossible goal.

You can't 'kill' an ideology. We still have flat earthers ffs and we can literally send a man into space to observe that is not true.

At best you can limit them to extremists, and second unspoken assumption is that no, you can't convince everybody of something, no matter how true it is or persuasive you are.

So two flaws to humanity are; you can't get everybody 'in line' ideologically, and you can't ever 'kill' an ideology completely.
Given that, any attempts to erase human thought to achieve either of the above is ultimately doomed to failure, and the unspoken acknowledgement of this is people who think they can do this will keep doubling down and getting more extreme themselves in an attempt to do so; again, history is littered with repressive regimes desperate not to allow an ideology to flourish, and the perverse outcome that the more they try and stamp it out the more it does flourish.

If you start taking about 'forbidden' knowledge that 'they' don't want you to know 'the truth' about you give those people more power, not less. You make - what is ultimately a banal little evil - into some alluring secret power 'the elite' are trying to stop, and automatically positioning them as plucky underdogs.

Thats where the principle of free speech comes in; there have been a lot of studies that the only way to deradicalise people is to get them asking their own questions.
If you're telling people who are asking questions to go fuck off and be with the rest of the scumbags, where are they getting their answers? And again, this does not (and can not) account for people who are deliberately 'bad faith' actors, or ideologues or zealots - but the people around them who might otherwise fall for their bullshit might eventually start asking their own questions when a lot of good questions or logical inconsistencies continue to be glossed over by those self same zealots and ideologues.

Most people don't want to be in an endless tiresome shitty culture war, but sending people off into their own bubbles to ferment isn't the way to de-escalate.
In fact, I would postulate that actively driving people off to form their 'own' communities unmonitored because larger communities decided they don't want to deal with their bullshit actively increases the power of the extremists over those communities, as they have actual adversity to overcome and form bonds under.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 04, 2022, 09:16:40 AM
If the two options are to make something into a secret power for a few people or normalize it for a lot, I feel like the first is by far the best option. 

I agree that you can't kill an ideology.  I am debating that deradicalization is the main concern.  Just prevent radicalization in the first place for the most amount of people.   It may not be the optimal thing, but it is the best achievable thing.  Those bubbles are mainly online and can be popped.  You should talk about specific examples, especially when you posit that derdicalization is the prime concern, which is a very individual treatment.   Maybe Himu is getting his bigotry from a mosque and this won't help, but rather just isolate him more, but it would sure show him that his views are unacceptable to people outside whatever bubble he is in.  If it's not from a mosque, then it is most likely that he got it from online, which is a solvable thing.  Or, maybe it is from a mosque and he is actively searching out online communities that support it, in which case it would be better if they did not exist.

Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 04, 2022, 09:37:32 AM
I agree that you can't kill an ideology.  ... If it's not from a mosque, then it is most likely that he got it from online, which is a solvable thing.  Or, maybe it is from a mosque and he is actively searching out online communities that support it, in which case it would be better if they did not exist.
This is exactly the kind of thing that leads me into misinterpreting you into having the same goals as Occam.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 04, 2022, 09:50:28 AM
I agree that you can't kill an ideology.  ... If it's not from a mosque, then it is most likely that he got it from online, which is a solvable thing.  Or, maybe it is from a mosque and he is actively searching out online communities that support it, in which case it would be better if they did not exist.
This is exactly the kind of thing that leads me into misinterpreting you into having the same goals as Occam.

I'm obviously referencing the online communities not existing not mosques.  Also saying it would be better if they didn't exist does not imply that the EU needs to set up gulags.  This is exactly the kind of thing that makes me think you don't argue in good faith when it comes to your free speech baby.  That and you know, abstacting to the point where you can compare bigots to LGBT people, even though I gave some very specific examples of bigotry and conflating various forms of free speech such that, if it's not illegal it is fine.


Sorry for replying to the content of your posts, in the future I will think about only replying to the posts that you want me to in the ways you want me to without ever informing anyone of this standard you will then hold against others who reply solely to the content of your posts and who have clearly aggravated you through objecting to imprisoning people for their speech. Especially their legal speech.

You still thinking about this, because it's a policy I support.  Note that is not a duty nor are you being compelled, so keep your screeching to yourself.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 04, 2022, 10:00:41 AM
I'm obviously referencing the online communities not existing not mosques.  Also saying it would be better if they didn't exist does not imply that the EU needs to set up gulags.  This is exactly the kind of thing that makes me think you don't argue in good faith when it comes to your free speech baby.
What's the "solvable thing" you would propose for these online communities then? You ruled out legal changes.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 04, 2022, 10:53:57 AM
I have already stated this and you can go back to look at previous posts.  Social media companies can legally self moderate.  I can advocate for such moderation with out also calling for it to be moderated via laws.  Does this prevent someone making their own server to engage in hate speech, no.  Does making it so that people can't find such servers easily through Twitter and Google make it so that those communities stay small, yes.  Is that a solution, in the context of hate speech on social media, yes.  It seems like you just took 'solvable' to be an absolute thing -- to solve hate speech -- which is obviously unchratable even though, without context and by dictionary definition this could be interpreted this way, but to do so takes a bit of dumb-assery.  And yes I know, you have 'lumped me in' with other people who you have characterized as having this belief, so just how are you able to separate the two?  Well I don't know but I feel like that is on you and that you are actively trying to conflate and misinterpret because it suits your view that free speech is good.  Now I know you said you support minimal moderation, but I also think that you prefer no moderation, except for maybe illegal content, and that this is why when say that moderation is good, you necessarily jump to questions of law.  That is on you and your reasoning skills, just as taking what I say in the worst possible way because you think other people believe that and can't use your reading skills to tell the difference is also on you.     

And yes, I know isn't it hypocritical to say we shouldn't lump people in because it leads to bad argument but then say its ok to lump all biggots together teehee. 
 
*keep your screeching to yourself* taps sign     
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 04, 2022, 11:04:22 AM
See when someone talks about how many people are dying, "real world consequences" and "stochastic terrorism" I'm going to assume they want something actually done about those things and aren't just making an appeal to some philosophical argument of the "ideal" in moderation standards.

The only thing I ever complain about in moderation is nebulous rules and unequal treatment. It's their forum, they can make whatever rules they want and if I don't like it I can just leave or never join in the first place.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 04, 2022, 11:09:31 AM
That assumption hinders on the fact that you think 'actually done' necessitates legal enforcement and that there is no benefit to self moderation in terms of a reduction in bigotry, which is obviously something I think is true.  Again, this is on your reasoning skills.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 04, 2022, 11:25:09 AM
As I said before, I think we're actually in agreement. I'd apologize a third time but you're not interested anyway.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 04, 2022, 12:04:50 PM
We are not in a agreement in anything other than maybe the legality issue.  Your favored form of moderation is very different from mine, which leads to comments like this,

I see accusing millions of people of being active participants in a horrific crime on the basis of a shared characteristic to be an equivalent form of hate as accusing LGBT+ people of being groomers, especially if in both cases you're saying "someone should do something to stop this" without getting specific about what you want, sorry.

I think it is desirable to ban an entire subreddit engaged in hate speech.  I think it is desire to ban individuals in that community even if they have not done a hate speech post theirselves but just upvoted others.  If you want a specific example, I have mentioned incels before.  I value freedom from hate over freedom to say anything, especially in the context of freedom to post on social media and not a discussion about the first amendment.  You disagree and that is OK.  However, you are passionate about the subject and this and our different stances on moderation and values concerning 'free speech' are why, when after we have come to 'agreement' for the third time, you jump right back in and play the 'lump in' game, because I am arguing for a different value system, which you do not like.  Then it seems like your main defense of free speech values comes from the argument that bad things will happen if it is made illegal, which uses the lofty term 'free speech' to be easily conflated between 'free speech on a social media site' and 'free speech under the law'.  That is not to say you do not have other defenses or that it needs to be defended, I'm saying, given your posts, everything seems to lead right back here, even dispite agreeing that it shouldn't for the third time.  Now I made it personal with asking why you didn't call out Himu and I am sorry for that,  but I did not do that to be mean, I did that because it highlights, at least for me, the problem with a value system that puts free speech over bigotry as a very specific example we are all familiar with.  Ideally no moderation would be needed, if the community kept itself clean.  You keep asking me what the proposed solution is for nebulous hate speech on social media, and I think I have made it clear that my answer is swift and hard moderation.  What is your proposed solution to Himu.  And I think I have the answer here too.  Chrono, myself and all the others are free to leave the bore, if we don't like how one person acts.  And our concerns, even if they are very minor, that how he acts on the bore might have real world consequences can be dismissed.   
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 04, 2022, 01:30:17 PM
No, we don't disagree other than probably procedural issues. I don't think there should never be moderation and I don't know why anyone would think that anyone would think that. Free speech is only about the government. There is no "free speech" position on private moderation, that's a matter of taste and decorum. (Which is uncouth to debate with the homeowner unsolicited.) Himu being banned from The Bore, Trump being banned from Twitter, filler being banned from Facebook, none of these are free speech issues. Of course an owner can remove anything they want that someone else has put on their property, even if they broadly non-contractually said "put whatever you want" beforehand. (Although some in MAGA are very determined to establish the right to command someone else's property to publish your personal speech.)

Additionally, you are merely the first person I have actually seen to date, anywhere outside of the place from which it spawned, concerned (or "concerned" as is more clearly in the case in most instances) about stochastic terrorism who is not using it in conjunction with advocating for the criminalization of speech.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on December 04, 2022, 02:28:04 PM
So Musk, being the new homeowner, gets to set the rules because he is legally allowed to do so and it is uncouth to advocate against what the homeowner wants (and we can ignore the fact that the analogy of Twitter being a home and not social media with the same set of social standards is bunk).  I assume the proposed solution to not being hurt is to just leave the neighborhood.  This is a value claim that it is more important to respect the homeowner over respecting those who might be hurt by what goes on in that home. It also does not say how you think moderation should be, other than you being a guest should not have an opinion on moderation.  I do not agree with this.  The fact that you can not legally dictate what a homeowner does in their home, does not mean you should not advocate for them doing better, and this is where the analogy breaks down, because unlike someone owning a home, you can advocate for standards on social media.  When you don't advocate for such standards, it seems like it is because you prefer minimal standards, or I guess, its just respect for the owners standards that is more important.  Is it really uncouth to be publicly concerned with Musk's policies causing social harm?         

Additionally am I the only person who is concerned with stochastic terrorism and not calling for the criminalization of speech, because you have done the same thing you did above and assume that because you don't believe that moderation can prevent such things, it necessitates lawful intervention?  You made a false inference that legal intervention was the inevitable outcome based on not seeing that others might have a different assumption.  Likewise, and this is where it gets tricky, in terms of the law, other people, including myself, believe that there are degrees of free speech and it is not an all or nothing thing.  I know you do not believe this, and I understand your argument, and it is not important here.  But, you must understand, that given others beliefs that there are degrees of free speech, that then allows one to propose different solutions to stochastic terrorism, some involving legal intervention, BUT that does not mean that any concern about stochastic terrorism necessarily requires legal intervention?  The reason why I say this is, because if you hold that freedom of speech is an absolute thing, as you do, it might cause you to dismiss actual claims about when or if legal intervention is being advocated for as just an attack on the absoluteness of free speech and thus lumping everyone into the same 'stochastic terrorism means no free speech' group.  I know you say you just having seen anyone else make the argument this way, I'm saying maybe you didn't fairly consider what those arguments were because you value absolute free speech and do not like attacks on it.  Again, just to be clear, this isn't saying that valuing absolute free speech is wrong, just that you seem to get hotheaded and prone to giving uncharitable readings when it comes to that and so maybe this 'stochastic terrorism' lump group isn't actually what you think it is.   
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on December 04, 2022, 03:34:34 PM
"Money is speech". You are not the billionaire who owns the social network? Tough luck, you don't get any say regarding the rules.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on December 04, 2022, 05:26:28 PM
Can I suggest some more liberal use of paragraphs in this thread please?

It's just a big long wall of text right now.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on December 04, 2022, 05:52:58 PM
Can I suggest some more liberal use of paragraphs in this thread please?

It's just a big long wall of text right now.

I agree.

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Still won’t reading a word of that shit ayy lmao
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Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on December 04, 2022, 05:57:44 PM
Can we limit posts in this thread to 140 characters

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and i don't mean himus characters
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:rodney
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on December 04, 2022, 05:59:46 PM
there's so little happening -- twitter not actually collapsing and no one actually leaving, hate speech moderated more or less the same as ever, twitter regaining lost advertisers and not being delisted anywhere -- that discussion just spirals into meta-analysis

 :doge
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on December 04, 2022, 06:06:27 PM
there's so little happening -- twitter not actually collapsing and no one actually leaving, hate speech moderated more or less the same as ever, twitter regaining lost advertisers and not being delisted anywhere -- that discussion just spirals into meta-analysis

 :doge
You just can't see the stochastic terrorisms wreaking actual violence in this thread and in the greater Twatterverse, uncle. Stop it before you commit a genocide.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 04, 2022, 06:48:27 PM
there's so little happening -- twitter not actually collapsing and no one actually leaving, hate speech moderated more or less the same as ever, twitter regaining lost advertisers and not being delisted anywhere -- that discussion just spirals into meta-analysis

 :doge
:elon

No one could predict the richest guy in the world who runs multiple high tech companies would be able to keep a website running.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 04, 2022, 07:56:24 PM
It makes me wonder what those 7000+ employees were working on. Obviously they didn't need all of them to work on maintaining the site but it's also not like twitter constantly hit people with new updates or innovations. If the site doesn't evolve at all from now own it's probably going to be fine for quite a while.
Of course there's also content moderation but afaik is the actual grunt work of that outsourced to the Philippines where some poor sods have to look at all that graphic shit that needs to be deleted
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on December 04, 2022, 09:29:45 PM
"please help me budget, my company is dying

server upkeep - 500
building maintenance - 600
property tax - 200
office supplies - 100
employee salary - 7,000,000
planned upgrades - 400
other amenities - 80"

"hire fewer employees"

"no"
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on December 04, 2022, 11:01:33 PM
Employee perks $30,000,000
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 04, 2022, 11:14:13 PM
So Musk, being the new homeowner, gets to set the rules because he is legally allowed to do so and it is uncouth to advocate against what the homeowner wants (and we can ignore the fact that the analogy of Twitter being a home and not social media with the same set of social standards is bunk).  I assume the proposed solution to not being hurt is to just leave the neighborhood.  This is a value claim that it is more important to respect the homeowner over respecting those who might be hurt by what goes on in that home. It also does not say how you think moderation should be, other than you being a guest should not have an opinion on moderation.  I do not agree with this.  The fact that you can not legally dictate what a homeowner does in their home, does not mean you should not advocate for them doing better, and this is where the analogy breaks down, because unlike someone owning a home, you can advocate for standards on social media.  When you don't advocate for such standards, it seems like it is because you prefer minimal standards, or I guess, its just respect for the owners standards that is more important.  Is it really uncouth to be publicly concerned with Musk's policies causing social harm?
No, I am simply saying that if the owner has told you the rules, it's not good form to enter his property and complain about the rules. If you did it anyway and the owner dismissed your concerns, it is extremely bad form to try and debate it with him. If you continue it is highly likely he will consider you to be trespassing.

In Elon Musk's case he has solicited views, so it is not bad form to tweet @elonmusk with your opinion, something he also seems to actually respond to.

You seem to be seeking from me a universal principle for situational ethics.
Additionally am I the only person who is concerned with stochastic terrorism and not calling for the criminalization of speech, because you have done the same thing you did above and assume that because you don't believe that moderation can prevent such things, it necessitates lawful intervention?  You made a false inference that legal intervention was the inevitable outcome based on not seeing that others might have a different assumption.  Likewise, and this is where it gets tricky, in terms of the law, other people, including myself, believe that there are degrees of free speech and it is not an all or nothing thing.  I know you do not believe this, and I understand your argument, and it is not important here.  But, you must understand, that given others beliefs that there are degrees of free speech, that then allows one to propose different solutions to stochastic terrorism, some involving legal intervention, BUT that does not mean that any concern about stochastic terrorism necessarily requires legal intervention?  The reason why I say this is, because if you hold that freedom of speech is an absolute thing, as you do, it might cause you to dismiss actual claims about when or if legal intervention is being advocated for as just an attack on the absoluteness of free speech and thus lumping everyone into the same 'stochastic terrorism means no free speech' group.  I know you say you just having seen anyone else make the argument this way, I'm saying maybe you didn't fairly consider what those arguments were because you value absolute free speech and do not like attacks on it.  Again, just to be clear, this isn't saying that valuing absolute free speech is wrong, just that you seem to get hotheaded and prone to giving uncharitable readings when it comes to that and so maybe this 'stochastic terrorism' lump group isn't actually what you think it is.
Yes, I am bigoted towards people who use the term "stochastic terrorism" unironically.

Yes, the nonsense about "degrees of free speech" is meaningless to me because I cannot conceive a moral reason to respond to speech with violence. I don't support "absolute free speech" (aka free speech) out of some kind of religious devotion to the beauties of the mass free flow of information (though tis holy), I do so because I consider the alternatives to all be immoral. I take the position I do against defamation, for example, not to maximize free speech but because I don't believe anyone should have the right to impose an opinion on others through violence.

In any case, I don't consider stochastic terrorism to actually be a free speech issue, it is merely the cudgel people who already want to eliminate free speech or destroy the internet are currently using. The stochastic terrorism theory is a due process issue, I'm not really surprised that illiberal "progressives" are flocking to it in droves as violating principles of liberal due process is like catnip to those kinds of cops.

"Money is speech". You are not the billionaire who owns the social network? Tough luck, you don't get any say regarding the rules.
We already know you don't want any press but the state press, but yes, in a liberal democracy you are not allowed to just take other people's property just because you want to unless you actually are the cops. (Ideally, even they would not be able to do this but apparently there was a loophole written on the back of the contract.)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on December 05, 2022, 07:46:22 AM
Anyways I'm done replying

Also....







Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: bork on December 05, 2022, 07:56:26 AM
Anyways I'm done replying

Also....








He wasn't replying to the same poster.   :doge
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 05, 2022, 11:25:30 AM
can we go back to laughing at blue tick nonsense and Musk handling the takeover with the grace of someone who replaced his hands with sledgehammer heads?  :kermit
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 05, 2022, 02:15:26 PM
It makes me wonder what those 7000+ employees were working on. Obviously they didn't need all of them to work on maintaining the site but it's also not like twitter constantly hit people with new updates or innovations. If the site doesn't evolve at all from now own it's probably going to be fine for quite a while.
Of course there's also content moderation but afaik is the actual grunt work of that outsourced to the Philippines where some poor sods have to look at all that graphic shit that needs to be deleted
They were working on human rights issues and important issues such as protesting against Elon Musk.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: D3RANG3D on December 05, 2022, 02:20:38 PM
It makes me wonder what those 7000+ employees were working on. Obviously they didn't need all of them to work on maintaining the site but it's also not like twitter constantly hit people with new updates or innovations. If the site doesn't evolve at all from now own it's probably going to be fine for quite a while.
Of course there's also content moderation but afaik is the actual grunt work of that outsourced to the Philippines where some poor sods have to look at all that graphic shit that needs to be deleted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkQbHyLE6Tc
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on December 05, 2022, 02:48:10 PM
I’m surprised how horrible everyone in this shitshow is regardless of being Pro or AntiMusk. Is like a bad miracle…
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 05, 2022, 03:40:57 PM
I’m surprised how horrible everyone in this shitshow is regardless of being Pro or AntiMusk. Is like a bad miracle…

And the saga is still getting better. Now that Kanye and Trump are out of the picture Musks groupies are fighting for his attention.
The Quartering has a beef with Miles Chong, the crypto bro's are trying to upstage the #FreeAssange club and vice versa.

They're basically all competing for Elon's attention. The "QA" was thus a total clusterfuck  :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 09, 2022, 04:21:10 AM
:american LIBERATION DAY! THE PEOPLE ARE NO LONGER HANDCUFFED TO THE SINGLE DOOR OPPRESSING US! :american

https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer/status/1600864564417265666
https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer/status/1600964177090162689
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 11, 2022, 06:43:53 AM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1601894132573605888 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1601894132573605888)

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1601884478745374720 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1601884478745374720)

:elon

and Trump was right as always

https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1601729400915267584 (https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1601729400915267584)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 11, 2022, 11:16:38 AM
I understand now that the 7000 Twitter employees were actually needed to keep the bore running
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 11, 2022, 12:01:37 PM
Time to get off the Twitter train before Musk reaches the Hitler was right station
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 11, 2022, 12:38:19 PM
Who knows what's still hidden in the T W I T T E R  F I L E S
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 11, 2022, 06:25:20 PM
Elon Musk has built some anti-bot measures into Twitter
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1602027334751571968 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1602027334751571968)

He's also going to prosecute scammers globally
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1602035168444833792 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1602035168444833792)

CIA spooks can no longer call the censors and get wrecked in the comments :rejoice
https://twitter.com/mask_bastard/status/1602070015725166592 (https://twitter.com/mask_bastard/status/1602070015725166592)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 11, 2022, 09:06:05 PM
FAUCI MURDERED MILLIONS

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1602113254360162304
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on December 11, 2022, 09:45:38 PM
Oh, has the 5G kill switch been activated yet?

I got three motherfucking jabs to accelerate the process and still nothing on my end  :rage

#FauciLiedAndIStillHaventDied
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: D3RANG3D on December 11, 2022, 09:47:20 PM
https://twitter.com/RitaPanahi/status/1602126651730448384

(https://i.ibb.co/VWhDw5c/mjlol.png)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 11, 2022, 09:48:15 PM
Wait, if Musk is claiming covid came from a chinese lab...

Bye bye Tesla market there
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 11, 2022, 10:07:07 PM
https://twitter.com/jimmykimmel/status/1602071763260608512

https://twitter.com/TheJohnDiMaggio/status/1601962008022163457

https://twitter.com/BillyBaldwin/status/1601996398115033088

"Fuck you for making jokes about pronouns!!"

*proceeds to express this in the form of a joke about pronouns*
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on December 11, 2022, 10:17:13 PM
Lol, first it was "delete Twitter" and now it's "boycott Tesla".

Do they not see the irony of saying this while sporting a fucking blue check mark that costs $8 month and ensures that Musk's Twatter becomes more financially viable than Soy Twatter ever was?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 11, 2022, 11:09:48 PM
CIA spooks can no longer call the censors and get wrecked in the comments :rejoice
https://twitter.com/JohnBrennan/status/1601949081189900288
haha this guy lied to Congress about the crimes he was committing and nobody cared or cares, now he's lecturing people on Twitter about having class :american
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 12, 2022, 12:20:20 AM
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1601994248370679808

why u searchin JP? (also lmao at Reich)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 12, 2022, 12:26:15 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjrfnakVsAceoCw?format=jpg&name=small)

Fair and balanced:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjtbWWbVIAAo--m?format=jpg&name=small)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjpYYRMUoAA1-QL?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on December 12, 2022, 01:49:26 AM
Quote
Elon Musk Is a Far-Right Activist

One tweet says it all.
By Charlie Warzel

If there’s one tweet that will tell you everything you need to know about Elon Musk, it’s this one from early this morning:

    My pronouns are Prosecute/Fauci
    — Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 11, 2022

In five words, Musk manages to mock transgender and nonbinary people, signal his disdain for public-health officials, and send up a flare to far-right shitposters and trolls. The tweet is a cruel and senseless play on pronouns that also invokes the right’s fury toward Anthony Fauci, the chief medical adviser to President Joe Biden, for what they believe is a government overreach in public-health policy throughout the pandemic and an obfuscation of the coronavirus’s origins. (Fauci, for his part, has said he would cooperate with any possible investigations and has nothing to hide.)

Beyond its stark cruelty, this tweet is incredibly thirsty. As right-wing troll memes go, it is Dad-level, 4chan–Clark Griswold stuff, which is to say it’s desperate engagement bait in the hopes of attracting kudos from the only influencers who give Musk the time of day anymore: right-wing shock jocks. But that is the proper company for the billionaire, because whether or not he wants to admit it, Musk is actively aiding the far right’s political project. He is a right-wing activist.

Currently, Musk’s politics are a subject of debate in the press. On Saturday, The New York Times’ Jeremy W. Peters attempted to offer a nuanced portrait of the Twitter owner’s ideologies, arguing that Musk “continues to defy easy political categorization.” But Peters’ laundry list of Musk’s recent lib-trolling and “woke” scolding—such as Musk’s November recommendation to his millions of followers to vote Republican—undermines the very thesis of the article. The nuance Peters is looking for does not exist: Musk’s actions and associations make a clear case that he is a right-wing reactionary.

Musk, for his part, has maintained that he is a centrist, that his politics have remained unchanged, and that it is the Democratic Party that has veered dramatically leftward. (Musk and Twitter did not immediately respond to a request for comment.) Musk’s logic—that wayward leftism has given a lifelong moderate liberal no choice but to support right-wing causes—is a common trope among far-right activists. It has been employed by many in the so-called Intellectual Dark Web and influencers such as Dave Rubin, Joe Rogan, Glenn Greenwald, and others. The argument stretches far back in American politics. The neoconservative movement in the United States was originated by liberals who grew disillusioned with the Democratic Party, especially in relation to the left’s Vietnam protests.

Beyond Musk’s political affiliations, his actual political convictions—by which I mean the bedrock set of values, ideologies, and organizing principles through which he sees the world and wishes it to be structured—are a slightly different conversation. Here, I tend to agree with The Verge’s Liz Lopatto, who wrote recently that Musk doesn’t really have political beliefs, only personal interests. But one can have vapid or nonexistent political beliefs and still be a political activist. Political activism is about actions. Here’s what those actions look like in practice:

    I am gratified for the reinstatement of my account on Twitter and am grateful to @ElonMusk for his commitment to fairness and free speech.

    God Bless America and thank you, Jesus.
    — Roger Stone (@RogerJStoneJr) December 7, 2022

    I affirm your pronouns Elon.
    — Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (@RepMTG) December 11, 2022

Publicly, Musk appears deeply committed to the right’s culture war against progressivism in most forms. His purchase of Twitter was an explicitly political act couched in the notion of preserving free speech. But Musk’s notion of free speech is a broad course correction that involves amplifying and advancing the interests of right-wing reactionaries while trolling the left. Musk might argue that this is restoring balance to the system, but if we are judging based only on actions and outcomes, it is very hard to see his tenure at Twitter as anything other than a series of policies intended to benefit a particular ideology.

Musk also simply loves palling around with far-right influencers on Twitter. A scroll through his Twitter replies is a rather remarkable document of a man who has (or at least had) more money than any human being in the history of humanity, a fair amount of power, and an endless supply of options for how to spend his time, and who chooses to spend his time as a reply guy for prominent MAGA voices, such as a user who goes by the handle @catturd2 and Turning Points USA’s Charlie Kirk.

In a similar fashion, Musk’s “Twitter Files” project, for which he has been releasing Twitter’s old internal documents concerning controversial content-moderation decisions to independent journalists, is an attention spectacle dressed up in the style of investigative journalism designed to delight Musk’s Twitter friends. As I wrote on Friday, some of the internal conversations and screenshots from Musk’s company are fascinating documents that shed light on the intractable problem of content moderation at scale. But they are presented in a blatantly partisan and misleading manner, and have been released only to journalists who share Musk’s pet ideological issues: that the mainstream media is ethically bankrupt, that social media and most elite institutions are biased and colluding with the government.

The hypocrisy at the center of Musk’s Twitter tenure is crucial to the understanding of Musk’s political activism. He has championed ideals of free-speech maximalism and amnesty to those who’ve offended his rules. Twitter, under his management, has let back on organizers of the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia; neo-Nazis such as Andrew Anglin; and January 6–investigation personalities such as Roger Stone. At the same time, Twitter has suspended accounts that have mocked Musk or expressed left-leaning views. Whether intentionally or not, Musk has, in effect, been governing Twitter using the classic Frank Wilhoit maxim: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Put differently, the billionaire has been advancing a long-running right-wing political project described recently by my colleague Adam Serwer as a “belief in a new constitutional right. Most important, this new right supersedes the free-speech rights of everyone else: the conservative right to post.”

Why is Musk doing all of this? The answer is reasonably simple. Musk’s far-right activism clearly seems to be, like all else in his life, personally motivated, not by a strong political ideology or value system but, as Lopatto argues, by the accumulation of money and “being perceived as a visionary who will reshape human society.” Musk is interested in preserving the political values and systems that keep him on top as a revered member of culture. It’s a philosophy that the writer John Ganz has described as “bossism” or “bosses on top.” For Musk, right-wing activism serves that role. Musk’s tweets—like his dismissive tweet this morning, or his concerning insinuations that, perhaps, his former trust-and-safety employees did not stop child-exploitation posts for motivated reasons—are cruel for the shallowest reasons: because they are likely to draw engagement to the platform that Musk has plunged into financial uncertainty, due to both his piling on of debt and his alienation of advertisers.

But even as a far-right shitposter, Musk is hapless. Unlike somebody such as Donald Trump, who remains the Twitter troll template, Musk is a try-hard. And although the Twitter shock jocks will happily lap him up because he triggers the libs and serves their purposes, Musk is still seen as a dilettante by the inveterate shitposters and bigots. Over on 4chan, the far-right message board, Musk’s Fauci tweet barely merited discussion. “Elon is just being controversial to drive traffic to his website,” one poster mused. Even in his thirsty attempts to be an edgelord, Musk is failing to be anything other than cringey.
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2022/12/elon-musk-twitter-far-right-activist/672436/
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on December 12, 2022, 03:04:00 AM
Shitposting on the mentally ill is far right activism now?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 12, 2022, 04:18:52 AM
Charlie Warzel finished their piece. This was their watergate moment, meeting deepthroat in the trenchcoat, echoes of Bernstein and Woodward. "Pulitzer?" their assistent texted. With this thought they entered their Tesla and went home.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 12, 2022, 08:16:03 AM
https://twitter.com/SteveGoffman/status/1602229546383728640 (https://twitter.com/SteveGoffman/status/1602229546383728640)

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1602278477234728960 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1602278477234728960)

:elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 12, 2022, 08:42:36 AM
I don't particularly care about his politics but man...dude sounds like a loser playing a role/act. A lot of this stuff sounds more like messaging than any real opinion. Like he has decided that his best route to replacing advertisement $ is to engage an active base of users enough to convince them to purchase Twitter Blue. Which of course is a laughable idea but given how dumb some of his actions have been I wouldn't be stunned if he thinks it's possible. It's either that or hoping a flurry of My Pillow, brain pills, and "buy gold" ads will save him (they won't).

I'm not doubting he's a right winger. I just think the engagement is weird given his claim that twitter should be balanced. Also the liberals who sit around crying about his tweets...why don't you just quit the site? You said you'd quit weeks ago and are still there.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on December 12, 2022, 08:57:22 AM
I heard musk in an operative who infiltrated twitter to shut down the alt right.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 12, 2022, 09:33:18 AM
https://twitter.com/paleofuture/status/1602257153234194432

 :walkaway

(But also boo at the twitter guy for not knowing that the horn is part of the catchphrase)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on December 12, 2022, 09:56:57 AM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456

https://www.thedailybeast.com/twitter-account-following-elon-musks-private-jet-gets-shadow-banned

Technically it's not a lie, Apartheid Elton only mentioned banning, not shadow banning.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: headwalk on December 12, 2022, 10:01:09 AM
due to the sheer strength of my convictions i'm not on twitter nor do i own a tesla. if only more people could show the same moral backbone the world would be a much better place.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on December 12, 2022, 10:04:11 AM
https://twitter.com/paleofuture/status/1602257153234194432

 :walkaway

(But also boo at the twitter guy for not knowing that the horn is part of the catchphrase)

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It’s difficult to tell from the videos precisely what percentage of the crowd was booing during the cringeworthy episode, but some on social media estimated it was the vast majority of people in the 18,000-capacity stadium.

 :science
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 12, 2022, 10:11:31 AM
This idiot is going up have nightmares about this for the rest of his life

https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1602305628734599168

I'm cackling

Is there a go fund me for the hero that got the camera in
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on December 12, 2022, 10:38:09 AM
This idiot is going up have nightmares about this for the rest of his life

https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1602305628734599168

I'm cackling

:science

Wonder if he'll start to talk about crowd sizes next.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 12, 2022, 10:45:50 AM
Odds of Musk shooting up one of his workplaces have gone up
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 12, 2022, 11:02:29 AM
Odds of Musk shooting up one of his workplaces have gone up
Not dramatic enough. He'll lock himself up in a SpaceX facility in Venezuela with his crew of weird nerds, Putin and Kanye surrounded by PMC's from the dissolved Russian Empire.
Threatening to crash Starlink sattelites into government buildings overrun by communists and woke power centers.

President Trump sends Secretary of State Tulsi Gabbard and FBI Director Joe Rogan to make a deal.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 12, 2022, 11:05:55 AM
He's not a poster. This dude was not on SA, GAF, or any other forum that shaped our internet careers/experiences. Every time he posts a meme it feels like an old dude trying to appeal to the kids. This is the type of dude we would have trolled the fuck out of. Drinky would have made him commit suicide in 2004.

Look at the way he's moving on stage, and the "I'm rich bitch" thing. How old is that shit come on dude. I like Dave but he looks corny as fuck trying to cape for the guy on stage. Trust/respect your audience more dude. I'm gonna assume if you're going to a Dave show in 2022 you aren't particularly "woke" so that's not the issue. A lot of people view Dave as a rather even handed arbiter of truth. Whether that's accurate or not, a lot of people think that way. Whereas Elon is just a rich jerk.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on December 12, 2022, 11:41:43 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/bRntfDp/Fjy-Q050-X0-AEBVY7.jpg)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on December 12, 2022, 11:44:17 AM
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This is the type of dude we would have trolled the fuck out of.

Watching the clip, I feel like chappele and co were trolling him and the audience at the same time.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on December 12, 2022, 12:48:07 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456

Technically it's not a lie, Apartheid Elton only mentioned banning, not shadow banning.

I fucking loved Elon, but since you came up with that incredible zinger of a nickname for him, I've done a complete 180 and now I can't stand his fucking guts.

I haven't felt this sure about something since finding out that poopy pants Wendy did indeed have double cooties throughout third grade
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 12, 2022, 01:26:15 PM
Odds of Musk shooting up one of his workplaces have gone up
Not dramatic enough. He'll lock himself up in a SpaceX facility in Venezuela with his crew of weird nerds, Putin and Kanye surrounded by PMC's from the dissolved Russian Empire.
Threatening to crash Starlink sattelites into government buildings overrun by communists and woke power centers.

President Trump sends Secretary of State Tulsi Gabbard and FBI Director Joe Rogan to make a deal.

People need to start asking him if the starlink stuff can be used as kamikaze drones
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on December 12, 2022, 01:34:01 PM
I really hope that Chappelle realizes that a person getting flamed at social media doesn’t mean that is without reason or that you audience suddenly stopped being socially conscious.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on December 12, 2022, 01:37:35 PM
This idiot is going up have nightmares about this for the rest of his life

https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1602305628734599168

I'm cackling

Is there a go fund me for the hero that got the camera in

Why the fuck did you buy Twitter if you didn’t want to deal with lefties at San Francisco? People knew that Sna Francisco was hellhole even when you were liked by most of the tech world.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 12, 2022, 02:07:52 PM
Tesla down 6% while the rest of the market is up.

Go anti-woke go broke
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on December 12, 2022, 03:09:33 PM
I guess you could say, he seriously misread the room.
Insulting your customer base: Not a savvy business move.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on December 12, 2022, 03:26:07 PM
Elton John has left Twitter because of Musk's behavior.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/elton-john-quits-twitter-as-ceo-elon-musk-slurs-gay-former-employee/
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 12, 2022, 07:23:17 PM
How Nothing Burger are the Twitter files?

Part 5 dropped earlier today.

On r/conservative...

Twitter files part 4 (twitter.com)
submitted 2 days
64 comments


Part 4 was ignored and they didnt even bother to post part 5 lol

In contrast, the video of him getting booed has 20k+ comments on reddit
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 12, 2022, 07:41:25 PM
Quote
Beyond Musk’s political affiliations, his actual political convictions—by which I mean the bedrock set of values, ideologies, and organizing principles through which he sees the world and wishes it to be structured—are a slightly different conversation. Here, I tend to agree with The Verge’s Liz Lopatto, who wrote recently that Musk doesn’t really have political beliefs, only personal interests. But one can have vapid or nonexistent political beliefs and still be a political activist. Political activism is about actions.
...
The hypocrisy at the center of Musk’s Twitter tenure is crucial to the understanding of Musk’s political activism. He has championed ideals of free-speech maximalism and amnesty to those who’ve offended his rules. Twitter, under his management, has let back on organizers of the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia; neo-Nazis such as Andrew Anglin; and January 6–investigation personalities such as Roger Stone. At the same time, Twitter has suspended accounts that have mocked Musk or expressed left-leaning views. Whether intentionally or not, Musk has, in effect, been governing Twitter using the classic Frank Wilhoit maxim: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Put differently, the billionaire has been advancing a long-running right-wing political project described recently by my colleague Adam Serwer as a “belief in a new constitutional right. Most important, this new right supersedes the free-speech rights of everyone else: the conservative right to post.”

Why is Musk doing all of this? The answer is reasonably simple. Musk’s far-right activism clearly seems to be, like all else in his life, personally motivated, not by a strong political ideology or value system but, as Lopatto argues, by the accumulation of money and “being perceived as a visionary who will reshape human society.” Musk is interested in preserving the political values and systems that keep him on top as a revered member of culture. It’s a philosophy that the writer John Ganz has described as “bossism” or “bosses on top.”
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2022/12/elon-musk-twitter-far-right-activist/672436/
Kinda weird to write a whole article accusing someone of "far-right activism" while spending so much time of your article about this not leveling any specific accusations of any "far-right" views (except some incoherent nonsense from an idiot about how people have a "free speech right" to keep others off a platform they don't own) and instead explaining how you both do and don't think he has any actual "far-right" views.

Also, lol at the "classic" Frank Wilhoit hoax quote showing up yet again in the disinformation-free media.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 12, 2022, 08:20:01 PM
https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer/status/1601755304638963712
https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer/status/1601949667306180608
https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer/status/1601977608199376896
https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer/status/1602117567006605314

 :mouf

spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer/status/1602122181433036800
https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer/status/1602287946094329858
https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer/status/1602315423441117184
https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer/status/1602442395458609152
https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer/status/1602445797609594880
 
 :dead :dead
[close]
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 12, 2022, 09:19:50 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/ZoeSchiffer/status/1602469871022854144

:pika
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 12, 2022, 11:32:16 PM
As first reported on The Bire weeks ago, the first new colored checks are out: underhydrated piss.
(https://i.imgur.com/w0wD3Ci.png)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 12, 2022, 11:51:47 PM
If they were attempting gold, they failed
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on December 13, 2022, 01:47:39 AM
As first reported on The Bire weeks ago, the first new colored checks are out: underhydrated piss.
(https://i.imgur.com/w0wD3Ci.png)

wtf elon why can't i buy a gold tick? blue ticks are literal trash
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on December 13, 2022, 07:02:35 AM
Quote
Twitter dissolves Trust and Safety Council
Meanwhile, a former top Twitter official fled his home amid attacks following Musk tweets

Twitter on Monday night abruptly dissolved its Trust and Safety Council, the latest sign that Elon Musk is unraveling years of work and institutions created to make the social network safer and more civil.
Members of Twitter’s Trust and Safety Council received an email with the subject line, “Thank You,” that informed them the council was no longer “the best structure” to bring “external insights into our product and policy development work.”
The email dissolution arrived less than an hour before members of the council were expecting to meet with Twitter executives via Zoom to discuss recent developments
Dozens of civil rights leaders, academics and advocates from around the world had volunteered their time for years to help improve safety on the platform.
“We are grateful for your engagement, advice and collaboration in recent years and wish you every success in the future,” said the email, which was simply signed “Twitter.”
[...]
The Trust and Safety Council unraveled after Musk himself had pitched the creation of a content moderation council that would have weighed in on key content moderation decisions, but later appeared to change his mind about introducing such a body.

Many members were already on the verge of resigning, said Larry Magid, chief executive of ConnectSafely, a Silicon Valley nonprofit that advises consumers about children’s internet use.

“By disbanding it, we got fired instead of quit,” he said. “Elon doesn’t want criticism, and he really doesn’t want the kind of advice he would very likely get from a safety advisory council, which would likely tell him to rehire some of the staff he got rid of, and reinstate some of the rules he got rid of, and turn the company in another direction from where he is turning it.”
Twitter first formed the Trust and Safety Council in 2016, as social networks were coming under greater scrutiny for their role in amplifying hate, terrorism, child exploitation and other problematic content online. The council convened a wide range of civil society groups, think tanks — and even some of Silicon Valley’s biggest critics. Twitter executives would regularly brief the council on new products in development and policies.

The Committee to Protect Journalists, a non-profit that promotes press freedom around the world, decried the dissolution of the council. “Safety online can mean survival offline," the group’s president, Jodie Ginsburg, said in a statement. “Today’s decision to dissolve the Trust and Safety Council is cause for grave concern, particularly as it is coupled with increasingly hostile statements by Twitter owner Elon Musk about journalists and the media.”
[...]
The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, which was a member of the council, will be “keeping a lookout for how they restructure,” said Gavin Portnoy, the center’s vice president.
“For the moment, we’ll continue to encourage reporting to the CyberTipline and hope to continue to have a seat at the table to address child safety on Twitter,” he said.

Last week, three members of the Trust and Safety Council resigned, warning that the “safety and wellbeing of Twitter’s users are on the decline.”

Musk responded to replies to their tweet announcing their resignation, writing, “It’s a crime that they refused to take action on child exploitation for years!”

Jack Dorsey, the company’s former CEO, responded to Musk, calling the claim “false.” But Musk’s comment nonetheless prompted a wave of threats and harassment at the board members who left the council, as well as some who remained.

Quote
Yoel Roth, Twitter’s former head of trust and safety, and his family were forced from their home after Elon Musk’s tweets misrepresented Roth’s academic writing about sexual activity and children. The online mob also sent threats to people Roth had replied to on Twitter, forcing some of Roth’s family and friends to delete their Twitter accounts, according to a person familiar with Roth’s situation who spoke on the condition of anonymity due to concerns about Roth’s safety.
Musk’s followers also directed harassment at professors who reviewed the dissertation that Roth wrote in 2016, as well as at his graduate school, the University of Pennsylvania, the person said. The university did not respond to a request for comment.

As head of trust and safety at Twitter, Roth was involved in many of the platform’s decisions about what posts to remove and what accounts to suspend. His communications with other Twitter officials have been posted in recent days as part of what Musk calls the Twitter Files, a series of tweets by journalists Matt Taibbi and Bari Weiss.

Musk’s tweets to his tens of millions of followers have for years prompted his supporters to deluge the targets of his ire with online threats — famously, a participant in the rescue of a boys soccer team trapped in a cave in Thailand, whom Musk branded “pedo guy.” But now that Musk owns one of the most powerful social networks in the world and has gutted the company division that previously policed online harassment, the stakes are even higher.

Musk tweets about Roth recalled the QAnon conspiracy movement, which claims incorrectly that Democratic Party leaders direct a child sex abuse network.

“Looks like Yoel is arguing in favor of children being able to access adult Internet services in his PhD thesis,” Musk tweeted Saturday, attaching a screenshot of Roth’s dissertation.
In the text, Roth suggested that services like the gay dating app Grindr should adopt safety strategies to accommodate teenagers using their platforms, rather than drive them out entirely. Musk also commented on a 2010 tweet in which Roth wrote, “Can high school students ever meaningfully consent to sex with their teachers?” Roth then linked to an article about a Washington State Supreme Court ruling about what age students can consent to having sex with their teachers.

Musk’s critical comments about Roth are something of an about-face from his early days at the company, when Roth appeared to be one of the few high-level Twitter executives Musk supported. On Oct. 30, the billionaire tweeted, “I want to be clear that I support Yoel. My sense is that he has high integrity, and we are all entitled to our political beliefs.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/12/12/musk-twitter-harass-yoel-roth/

Looks like Yoel Roth got free speeched out of his home.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on December 13, 2022, 10:38:40 AM
As first reported on The Bire weeks ago, the first new colored checks are out: underhydrated piss.
(https://i.imgur.com/w0wD3Ci.png)

You can do really cool holofoil effects in pure CSS these days.

https://deck-24abcd.netlify.app/

Instead, they went with piss.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 13, 2022, 12:36:13 PM
Prediction: Hes going full evilore

Hes going to start using the shadow banning tools on everyone who challenges him. Eventually, someone at twitter will leak pictures showing that a bunch of famous, but reasonable people have been de-boosted.

He will deny it. Claim it was a woke agent inside the org that did it to bring him down.

He will fire another 20+ people

An image of a log will leak showing it was in fact Elon who personally clicked the buttons

At that point is when he pushes the button that starts exploding teslas being driven by his critics
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 13, 2022, 01:02:12 PM
Quote
Roth’s academic writing about sexual activity and children.

Perfectly normal academic writings from Twitter’s former head of trust and safety nothing to see here folks.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on December 13, 2022, 01:06:07 PM
As first reported on The Bire weeks ago, the first new colored checks are out: underhydrated piss.
(https://i.imgur.com/w0wD3Ci.png)


You can do really cool holofoil effects in pure CSS these days.

https://deck-24abcd.netlify.app/

Instead, they went with piss.

They're gonna have to rehire the thousands of twitter engineers to implement this though.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on December 13, 2022, 02:31:20 PM
Quote
Twitter dissolves Trust and Safety Council
Meanwhile, a former top Twitter official fled his home amid attacks following Musk tweets

Twitter on Monday night abruptly dissolved its Trust and Safety Council, the latest sign that Elon Musk is unraveling years of work and institutions created to make the social network safer and more civil.
Members of Twitter’s Trust and Safety Council received an email with the subject line, “Thank You,” that informed them the council was no longer “the best structure” to bring “external insights into our product and policy development work.”
The email dissolution arrived less than an hour before members of the council were expecting to meet with Twitter executives via Zoom to discuss recent developments
Dozens of civil rights leaders, academics and advocates from around the world had volunteered their time for years to help improve safety on the platform.
“We are grateful for your engagement, advice and collaboration in recent years and wish you every success in the future,” said the email, which was simply signed “Twitter.”
[...]
The Trust and Safety Council unraveled after Musk himself had pitched the creation of a content moderation council that would have weighed in on key content moderation decisions, but later appeared to change his mind about introducing such a body.

Many members were already on the verge of resigning, said Larry Magid, chief executive of ConnectSafely, a Silicon Valley nonprofit that advises consumers about children’s internet use.

“By disbanding it, we got fired instead of quit,” he said. “Elon doesn’t want criticism, and he really doesn’t want the kind of advice he would very likely get from a safety advisory council, which would likely tell him to rehire some of the staff he got rid of, and reinstate some of the rules he got rid of, and turn the company in another direction from where he is turning it.”
Twitter first formed the Trust and Safety Council in 2016, as social networks were coming under greater scrutiny for their role in amplifying hate, terrorism, child exploitation and other problematic content online. The council convened a wide range of civil society groups, think tanks — and even some of Silicon Valley’s biggest critics. Twitter executives would regularly brief the council on new products in development and policies.

The Committee to Protect Journalists, a non-profit that promotes press freedom around the world, decried the dissolution of the council. “Safety online can mean survival offline," the group’s president, Jodie Ginsburg, said in a statement. “Today’s decision to dissolve the Trust and Safety Council is cause for grave concern, particularly as it is coupled with increasingly hostile statements by Twitter owner Elon Musk about journalists and the media.”
[...]
The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, which was a member of the council, will be “keeping a lookout for how they restructure,” said Gavin Portnoy, the center’s vice president.
“For the moment, we’ll continue to encourage reporting to the CyberTipline and hope to continue to have a seat at the table to address child safety on Twitter,” he said.

Last week, three members of the Trust and Safety Council resigned, warning that the “safety and wellbeing of Twitter’s users are on the decline.”

Musk responded to replies to their tweet announcing their resignation, writing, “It’s a crime that they refused to take action on child exploitation for years!”

Jack Dorsey, the company’s former CEO, responded to Musk, calling the claim “false.” But Musk’s comment nonetheless prompted a wave of threats and harassment at the board members who left the council, as well as some who remained.

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Yoel Roth, Twitter’s former head of trust and safety, and his family were forced from their home after Elon Musk’s tweets misrepresented Roth’s academic writing about sexual activity and children. The online mob also sent threats to people Roth had replied to on Twitter, forcing some of Roth’s family and friends to delete their Twitter accounts, according to a person familiar with Roth’s situation who spoke on the condition of anonymity due to concerns about Roth’s safety.
Musk’s followers also directed harassment at professors who reviewed the dissertation that Roth wrote in 2016, as well as at his graduate school, the University of Pennsylvania, the person said. The university did not respond to a request for comment.

As head of trust and safety at Twitter, Roth was involved in many of the platform’s decisions about what posts to remove and what accounts to suspend. His communications with other Twitter officials have been posted in recent days as part of what Musk calls the Twitter Files, a series of tweets by journalists Matt Taibbi and Bari Weiss.

Musk’s tweets to his tens of millions of followers have for years prompted his supporters to deluge the targets of his ire with online threats — famously, a participant in the rescue of a boys soccer team trapped in a cave in Thailand, whom Musk branded “pedo guy.” But now that Musk owns one of the most powerful social networks in the world and has gutted the company division that previously policed online harassment, the stakes are even higher.

Musk tweets about Roth recalled the QAnon conspiracy movement, which claims incorrectly that Democratic Party leaders direct a child sex abuse network.

“Looks like Yoel is arguing in favor of children being able to access adult Internet services in his PhD thesis,” Musk tweeted Saturday, attaching a screenshot of Roth’s dissertation.
In the text, Roth suggested that services like the gay dating app Grindr should adopt safety strategies to accommodate teenagers using their platforms, rather than drive them out entirely. Musk also commented on a 2010 tweet in which Roth wrote, “Can high school students ever meaningfully consent to sex with their teachers?” Roth then linked to an article about a Washington State Supreme Court ruling about what age students can consent to having sex with their teachers.

Musk’s critical comments about Roth are something of an about-face from his early days at the company, when Roth appeared to be one of the few high-level Twitter executives Musk supported. On Oct. 30, the billionaire tweeted, “I want to be clear that I support Yoel. My sense is that he has high integrity, and we are all entitled to our political beliefs.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/12/12/musk-twitter-harass-yoel-roth/

Looks like Yoel Roth got free speeched out of his home.
Twitter blue check marks made it very clear that these people were doing a "very bad job©®™" at making Twatter a "safe space" though...now we are led to believe they were essential?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 13, 2022, 03:01:09 PM
Moderated website? Pedo porn
Unmoderated website? Believe it or not, pedo porn
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 13, 2022, 04:45:44 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/13/technology/elon-musk-twitter-shakeup.html

Mr. Musk appears to be gearing up for legal battles at Twitter, which he purchased in October for $44 billion, according to seven people familiar with internal conversations. He and his team have revamped Twitter’s legal department and pushed out one of his closest advisers in the process. They have also instructed employees to not pay vendors in anticipation of potential litigation, the people said.

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To cut costs, Twitter has not paid rent for its San Francisco headquarters or any of its global offices for weeks, three people close to the company said. Twitter has also refused to pay a $197,725 bill for private charter flights made the week of Mr. Musk’s takeover, according to a copy of a lawsuit filed in New Hampshire District Court and obtained by The New York Times.
Twitter’s leaders have also discussed the consequences of denying severance payments to thousands of people who have been laid off since the takeover, two people familiar with the talks said. And Mr. Musk has threatened employees with lawsuits if they talk to the media and “act in a manner contrary to the company’s interest,” according to an internal email sent last Friday.


They're broke and he's about to lose a bunch of court cases for nothing.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 13, 2022, 04:53:35 PM
Lol whats his argument? "I didnt sign the rent agreement so its not valid?"

Coming from the "everyone in the office" crowd? Get fucked
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 13, 2022, 04:59:27 PM
Good luck with that in SF. BTW I think this is the first step in him relocating their HQ to Texas or Florida.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 13, 2022, 05:20:55 PM
Good luck with that in SF. BTW I think this is the first step in him relocating their HQ to Texas or Florida Joe Rogan's basement

:elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on December 13, 2022, 06:36:39 PM
Good luck with that in SF. BTW I think this is the first step in him relocating their HQ to Texas or Florida.

Just imagining tomorrow's headline: "Musk to relocate Twitter HQ to upscale Manhattan office valued at $2.7 bil"
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 13, 2022, 06:49:35 PM
Good luck with that in SF. BTW I think this is the first step in him relocating their HQ to Texas or Florida.

Just imagining tomorrow's headline: "Musk to relocate Twitter HQ to upscale Manhattan office valued at $2.7 bil"
Twitter relocating to Trump Tower :lawd
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 13, 2022, 09:18:17 PM
Trump ghosting twitter and Musk is still the funniest thing
 So much worry and panic and then it turns out that this was the first time ever Trump shows integrity
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on December 14, 2022, 12:59:00 AM
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/13/technology/elon-musk-twitter-shakeup.html

Mr. Musk appears to be gearing up for legal battles at Twitter, which he purchased in October for $44 billion, according to seven people familiar with internal conversations. He and his team have revamped Twitter’s legal department and pushed out one of his closest advisers in the process. They have also instructed employees to not pay vendors in anticipation of potential litigation, the people said.

---

To cut costs, Twitter has not paid rent for its San Francisco headquarters or any of its global offices for weeks, three people close to the company said. Twitter has also refused to pay a $197,725 bill for private charter flights made the week of Mr. Musk’s takeover, according to a copy of a lawsuit filed in New Hampshire District Court and obtained by The New York Times.
Twitter’s leaders have also discussed the consequences of denying severance payments to thousands of people who have been laid off since the takeover, two people familiar with the talks said. And Mr. Musk has threatened employees with lawsuits if they talk to the media and “act in a manner contrary to the company’s interest,” according to an internal email sent last Friday.


They're broke and he's about to lose a bunch of court cases for nothing.

The good old stable-genius strategy of not paying your bills to "cut costs".
Blatantly illegal, and quite amazing how the Former Richest Guy won't be liable to pay the debt with his personal fortune. Got to love the system.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 14, 2022, 02:30:09 AM
You'd think a multibillion dollar company would have more ownership over their own headquarters. Off the top of my head I couldn't name another one that I would suspect doesn't own the building especially one they've been in for a decade.

edit: Oh, they don't even rent all the space in it. And failed to take over Uber's old building just down the street previously. Not at all another strange thing about the company. :doge
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on December 14, 2022, 02:43:08 AM
No matter how bad Musk fucks up, he will still be more competent than the idiots who ran Twatter before him.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 14, 2022, 03:15:42 AM
I am starting to feel like I could tweet at Elon to let me run the company and this wouldn't definitively lead to a completely embarrassing disaster for humanity.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on December 14, 2022, 04:06:26 AM
No matter how bad Musk fucks up, he will still be more competent than the idiots who ran Twatter before him.

This will age very poorly in a year’s time, won’t it?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on December 14, 2022, 05:49:11 AM
https://twitter.com/ZoeSchiffer/status/1602831274422718464

Not just Apple.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on December 14, 2022, 06:28:01 AM
No matter how bad Musk fucks up, he will still be more competent than the idiots who ran Twatter before him.

This will age very poorly in a year’s time, won’t it?
No. Happy for you to bring it up next year so we can discuss.
(https://i.imgur.com/K2IbTtN.png)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 14, 2022, 10:18:39 AM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456

https://www.thedailybeast.com/twitter-account-following-elon-musks-private-jet-gets-shadow-banned

Technically it's not a lie, Apartheid Elton only mentioned banning, not shadow banning.

Now proper banned

https://twitter.com/mannyfidel/status/1603012723939459074

 :elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 14, 2022, 10:22:18 AM
Elon Musk finally rests his head on his MyPillow

He closes his eyes.

All he can hear is the thunderous boos

He tosses and turns

"Im rich bitch" echos in his head, boos left, right, in front, and behind.

He stands up.

Paces back and forth.

He pops in some sleeping pills but it still mad.

Fuck that jet kid. Let me ban him.

He falls asleep, drugged and now for a minute, happy.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on December 14, 2022, 11:00:53 AM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456

https://www.thedailybeast.com/twitter-account-following-elon-musks-private-jet-gets-shadow-banned

Technically it's not a lie, Apartheid Elton only mentioned banning, not shadow banning.

Now proper banned

https://twitter.com/mannyfidel/status/1603012723939459074

 :elon

https://twitter.com/ACABylonBee/status/1603051363621126147
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on December 14, 2022, 12:05:46 PM
Elonjet now is on mastodon:
https://mastodon.social/@elonjet
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 14, 2022, 03:18:32 PM
who cares?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on December 14, 2022, 03:29:31 PM
who cares?

Me with my MANPAD
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 14, 2022, 03:34:36 PM
https://twitter.com/webster/status/1603124997991505920

Im not mad Im not mad
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 14, 2022, 03:45:34 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1603116895280205825
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 14, 2022, 03:53:40 PM
Elon now slowly banning all the other jet tracking accounts so it looks less hypocritical  :lol

https://twitter.com/cyhithegoat/status/1603127409011736580
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 14, 2022, 03:58:47 PM
He banned the personal account of the kid too.

The best part is how hes been angry all day and every hour goes back to the computer to issue another ban

Which famous podcast or talk show will have the kid on first? Jimmy Kimmel?

Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on December 14, 2022, 04:00:44 PM
He banned the personal account of the kid too.



Link?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 14, 2022, 04:10:36 PM
He banned the personal account of the kid too.

The best part is how hes been angry all day and every hour goes back to the computer to issue another ban

Which famous podcast or talk show will have the kid on first? Jimmy Kimmel?

:rogan
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on December 14, 2022, 04:42:43 PM
He banned the personal account of the kid too.

Indeed he did, that's where I got the mastodon link earlier today.
That was it:
https://twitter.com/JxckSweeney/status/1603028610209779712

Does that mean if you link to https://mastodon.social/@elonjet on Twitter you'll get banned?

Jack Sweeny posted this on mastodon:
(https://files.mastodon.social/media_attachments/files/109/513/793/156/555/519/original/6a04950dae4d18eb.png)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 14, 2022, 04:55:32 PM
No one is clicking on a mastadon link blud :foodcourt
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 14, 2022, 05:03:33 PM
This is the first time I've visited Mastodon.

I thought I would be greeted with anti-capitalist memes but it seems like a place for the most boring people to hang out :trumps

Not impressed
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on December 14, 2022, 05:05:48 PM
i wonder is sweeny is a russina asseet
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 14, 2022, 05:20:34 PM
ElfLore banned discussion of Elon/Twitter

 :tauntaun :tauntaun :tauntaun :tauntaun :tauntaun
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on December 14, 2022, 05:21:55 PM
That place is still going huh?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 14, 2022, 05:22:12 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fj9AExzXwAUWfgq?format=jpg)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on December 14, 2022, 05:34:49 PM
So fElon doesn't like it when his jet is tracked, but he intends to track everyone's location unless they pay for a blue checkmark.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 14, 2022, 05:51:25 PM
The rules have changed. pray he doesnt change them further

https://twitter.com/RMac18/status/1603156150953734144
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on December 14, 2022, 06:01:09 PM
Will wait for era judgement
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 14, 2022, 06:09:55 PM
Why would you want to collect tracking data from people who stay in the same place to tweet all the time?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 14, 2022, 06:10:52 PM
https://twitter.com/BradMossEsq/status/1603163624276729858 (https://twitter.com/BradMossEsq/status/1603163624276729858)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on December 14, 2022, 06:31:38 PM
so here's my question, if someone tweets "I am currently at 123 fake street" and someone retweets it, have they shared that information without the other party's permission

or what if someone tweets a photo of the bedsheets at the hotel they're staying at which could be used to learn their location, and you retweet the photo
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on December 14, 2022, 06:32:18 PM
So you are no longer allowed to post any newly taken photos or videos of people which contain discernible location info, such as public places. Hahah.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on December 14, 2022, 06:36:27 PM
So you are no longer allowed to post any newly taken photos or videos of people which contain discernible location info, such as public places. Hahah.

Live location.

Check the twitter guidelines


Jeez
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on December 14, 2022, 06:39:25 PM
So you are no longer allowed to post any newly taken photos or videos of people which contain discernible location info, such as public places. Hahah.

Live location.

Check the twitter guidelines


Jeez

yeah so if you take a selfie at a ballpark and you say "here I am at the ballpark literally right now" and there are 50 people in the stands behind you who are identifiable and didn't give permission for you to share their location

 ???
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on December 14, 2022, 06:40:33 PM
Omg

How dense are you people

Leave musk alone
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 14, 2022, 06:43:06 PM
ELON JET IS BACK BITCHES

Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 14, 2022, 07:29:40 PM
Musk: Twitter will replace mainstream media

Musk: All news must be delayed 24 hours for privacy reasons
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on December 14, 2022, 07:50:02 PM
Elonjet is back

Take that James!
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 14, 2022, 07:57:15 PM
Elonjet is back

Take that James!

Backed to being banned you mean

Go cut your florets off

https://twitter.com/ElonJet/

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on December 14, 2022, 08:08:46 PM
So fElon

:snoop
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on December 14, 2022, 08:24:17 PM
https://twitter.com/ElonJet/

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944

What's a "lil X"?

Anyway,
https://twitter.com/drewharwell/status/1603191197765627904
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 14, 2022, 08:44:04 PM
Evilore vibes. Dude is a pussy.  :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on December 14, 2022, 08:47:45 PM
Reminder that just three days ago Musky had no problem to falsely imply Yoel Roth was supporting pedophilia in front of his 120 million followers, causing him to be driven from his home.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on December 14, 2022, 08:56:06 PM
Reminder that just three days ago Musky had no problem to falsely imply Yoel Roth was supporting pedophilia in front of his 120 million followers, causing him to be driven from his home.

wait did he specify the grindr teens he was talking about would be over the age of consent or
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on December 14, 2022, 09:02:03 PM
If teenagers dating teenagers is pedophilia, then I guess he was supporting pedophilia. My bad.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 14, 2022, 09:11:39 PM
If teenagers dating teenagers is pedophilia, then I guess he was supporting pedophilia. My bad.

WE FOUND THE GROOMER GET HIM BOYS




AND BY BOYS I MEAN MEN 18+



LETS MAKE IT 21+ JUST TO BE SAFE
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on December 14, 2022, 09:16:43 PM
If teenagers dating teenagers is pedophilia, then I guess he was supporting pedophilia. My bad.

wait did he specify teens dating teens and not older men they find on grindr or
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on December 14, 2022, 09:17:22 PM
NYT said he proposed they "adopt safety strategies" for teenagers, does that sound like promoting pedophilia or
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 14, 2022, 09:22:39 PM
He had to sell $3b in stock to fund his twitter habit

 :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1318605/000089924322038522/xslF345X03/doc4.xml
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 14, 2022, 09:24:22 PM
If teenagers dating teenagers is pedophilia, then I guess he was supporting pedophilia. My bad.

wait did he specify teens dating teens and not older men they find on grindr or

His paper simply proposed the same model Tinder used. One garden for the kiddies, one for the adults.

Quote
Tinder grew so fast by seeding its app with college students in the US, assuming they’d be an influential group because, as Mateen puts it: “as someone who’s younger in high school, you want to be a college kid. And a lot of adults are envious of college kids too”.

He adds that Tinder is broadening out now, though. “Early on, over 90% of our user base was aged between 18 and 24. Today, that number is about 51%,” he says. “13-17 year-olds are now over 7%, 25-32 year-olds are about 32%, 35-44 is about 6.5% and the remainder are older than 45.”

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/feb/24/tinder-dating-app-social-networks

Quote
Still, it's clear that more and more teens are turning to the internet in pursuit of romance. Like Tinder, dating apps MeetMe and Skout are open to anyone above the age of 13, while MyLOL and OurTeenNetwork were specifically created for the high school set. And it's not just specialized services that have gained traction: Olivia, a 17-year-old from Pennsylvania, says she would be more willing to meet up with someone she connected with on social media than on a dating app. "I met one of my ex-boyfriends on Facebook and things went really well for us," she says, adding, "I've also gained a lot of close friends by using it."

https://www.teenvogue.com/story/teens-on-tinder
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on December 14, 2022, 09:28:18 PM
NYT said he proposed they "adopt safety strategies" for teenagers, does that sound like promoting pedophilia or

I feel like when it comes to an app explicitly designed to organize sex hookups, there's not really a way to sanitize it?

like for example if you advocated for "adopting safety strategies" to allow teens to upload porn of themselves to pornhub, which would still be illegal
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on December 14, 2022, 09:36:04 PM
You had those teen dating articles bookmarked, didn’t you, James?  :society  :kermit
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 14, 2022, 09:42:38 PM
You had those teen dating articles bookmarked, didn’t you, James?  :society  :kermit

I did, used them to win some reddit argument this week while the bore was down

 :bernie
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on December 14, 2022, 10:00:25 PM
NYT said he proposed they "adopt safety strategies" for teenagers, does that sound like promoting pedophilia or

I feel like when it comes to an app explicitly designed to organize sex hookups, there's not really a way to sanitize it?

like for example if you advocated for "adopting safety strategies" to allow teens to upload porn of themselves to pornhub, which would still be illegal

For fuck sake, Uncle.

Elon called him a pedophile because he is an asshole not because he genuinely cares about whatever argument he made in the thesis.

Is not the first time he calls someone a pedophile because his ego got hurt.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 14, 2022, 10:20:35 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944
My man learning a lot about what the Brandenburg standard actually is.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Transhuman on December 14, 2022, 10:30:30 PM
NYT said he proposed they "adopt safety strategies" for teenagers, does that sound like promoting pedophilia or

I feel like when it comes to an app explicitly designed to organize sex hookups, there's not really a way to sanitize it?

like for example if you advocated for "adopting safety strategies" to allow teens to upload porn of themselves to pornhub, which would still be illegal

For fuck sake, Uncle.

Elon called him a pedophile because he is an asshole not because he genuinely cares about whatever argument he made in the thesis.

Is not the first time he calls someone a pedophile because his ego got hurt.

Elon is an asshole but he didn't call that guy a pedophile, he said "Looks like Yoel is arguing in favor of children being able to access adult Internet services in his PhD thesis", with a screencap of exactly that.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on December 14, 2022, 10:55:00 PM
NYT said he proposed they "adopt safety strategies" for teenagers, does that sound like promoting pedophilia or

I feel like when it comes to an app explicitly designed to organize sex hookups, there's not really a way to sanitize it?

like for example if you advocated for "adopting safety strategies" to allow teens to upload porn of themselves to pornhub, which would still be illegal

For fuck sake, Uncle.

Elon called him a pedophile because he is an asshole not because he genuinely cares about whatever argument he made in the thesis.

Is not the first time he calls someone a pedophile because his ego got hurt.

Elon is an asshole but he didn't call that guy a pedophile, he said "Looks like Yoel is arguing in favor of children being able to access adult Internet services in his PhD thesis", with a screencap of exactly that.

He just really, really, really, implied when responding another person post and saying “this explains a lot”.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on December 14, 2022, 11:01:14 PM
He had to sell $3b in stock to fund his twitter habit

 :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1318605/000089924322038522/xslF345X03/doc4.xml

Imagine laughing at someone for being true to their word.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 14, 2022, 11:36:46 PM
HE JUST LITERALLY CREATED THESE RULES

2 HOURS AGO

HE WROTE THE TOS

Quote
December 2022

You may not publish or post other people's private information without their express authorization and permission. We also prohibit threatening to expose private information or incentivizing others to do so.

In addition, you may not share private media, such as images or videos of private individuals, without their consent.

https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/personal-information

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603235998263123969
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on December 14, 2022, 11:42:13 PM
Base musk
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 15, 2022, 12:01:27 AM
But the rules about "private information" have been on Twitter's TOS for a long time and they've always been interpreted to mean "public information" for people Twitter likes.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Transhuman on December 15, 2022, 12:23:47 AM
"In addition, you may not share private media, such as images or videos of private individuals, without their consent."

So no more Karen/public freakout/shaming videos? That's even dumber than when tumblr ditched nudes. You know 10% of me still thought there might be some master plan and twitter would experience some sort of massive reversal of fortune, but I guess his ego is just too huge for him to make smart business decisions.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 15, 2022, 12:31:30 AM
"In addition, you may not share private media, such as images or videos of private individuals, without their consent."

So no more Karen/public freakout/shaming videos? That's even dumber than when tumblr ditched nudes. You know 10% of me still thought there might be some master plan and twitter would experience some sort of massive reversal of fortune, but I guess his ego is just too huge for him to make smart business decisions.
Again, this has been the rule on Twitter for a long time and yes, they have banned at times for those videos even though they're not private.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on December 15, 2022, 12:58:39 AM
My bird law training tells me expectation of privacy in public spaces means you can record beckys.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 15, 2022, 04:05:37 AM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603273356865847297 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603273356865847297)

Elon is looking for a private army
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on December 15, 2022, 06:42:49 AM
"In addition, you may not share private media, such as images or videos of private individuals, without their consent."

So no more Karen/public freakout/shaming videos? That's even dumber than when tumblr ditched nudes. You know 10% of me still thought there might be some master plan and twitter would experience some sort of massive reversal of fortune, but I guess his ego is just too huge for him to make smart business decisions.
Again, this has been the rule on Twitter for a long time and yes, they have banned at times for those videos even though they're not private.

basically make nearly everything against the rules but don't take stuff down most of the time, just apply them inconsistently when convenient

and until recently, have the foresight to obfuscate that everything is against the rules so you can do this subtly
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on December 15, 2022, 06:59:03 AM
"In addition, you may not share private media, such as images or videos of private individuals, without their consent."

So no more Karen/public freakout/shaming videos? That's even dumber than when tumblr ditched nudes. You know 10% of me still thought there might be some master plan and twitter would experience some sort of massive reversal of fortune, but I guess his ego is just too huge for him to make smart business decisions.
Again, this has been the rule on Twitter for a long time and yes, they have banned at times for those videos even though they're not private.

basically make nearly everything against the rules but don't take stuff down most of the time, just apply them inconsistently when convenient

and until recently, have the foresight to obfuscate that everything is against the rules so you can do this subtly

:reeeee or :elon ? 

:thinking
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 15, 2022, 10:11:12 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/xaviersonline/status/1603305093599674370

https://mobile.twitter.com/xaviersonline/status/1603370407582539777
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BisMarckie on December 15, 2022, 12:09:05 PM
He is probably just there to find evidence for Hilary‘s countless murders. :ufup
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 15, 2022, 07:15:44 PM
Vague rules, my favorite kind of rules

https://twitter.com/AriDrennen/status/1603174349720408067
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 15, 2022, 07:51:20 PM
More evilore playbook

https://mobile.twitter.com/MattBinder/status/1603551682629029889

https://mobile.twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status/1603549568263753728

https://mobile.twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1603551884748460034
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Polident Hive on December 15, 2022, 08:17:41 PM
One of those is already dead. Boy moves fast.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on December 15, 2022, 08:27:34 PM
Imagine studying for years and perfecting your craft as a journalist and then being put on the "Elon Musk" beat like some gossip rag bimbo...
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 15, 2022, 08:42:00 PM
What are the odds the feds are about to drop some spicy spicy incitements and hes banning everyone who would report on them?


Would also explain him selling 4% of his stock holdings this week.

I would keep an eye on which country elonjet is flying to
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 15, 2022, 09:02:31 PM
Musk dropping the N word in a private video has got to be less than 72 hours away at this point
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 15, 2022, 09:06:11 PM
This one is for you Benji

https://twitter.com/jason_kint/status/1603557011114889216
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 15, 2022, 09:28:18 PM
I really like this clash of unhinged forum moderation behavior combined with professional companies

https://twitter.com/farhip/status/1603574677846335490
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on December 15, 2022, 09:30:24 PM
I just wanted to say that Elon Musk, like the bore mods, is 100% NOT fat.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on December 15, 2022, 09:32:23 PM
This one is for you Benji

https://twitter.com/jason_kint/status/1603557011114889216
What's he going to do, yell loudly?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on December 15, 2022, 09:43:20 PM
:rofl

Dying laughing.

Eat up more slop you pigs :rejoice Dance for me! DANCE!
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Polident Hive on December 15, 2022, 09:46:24 PM
I take it mastodon and alternatives felt flat on their faces if there’s such desperation to remain on Twitter.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 15, 2022, 09:48:08 PM
https://twitter.com/CNNPR/status/1603579612612665344

CNN: "Mr. Musk, please explain yourself"

Elon: "Suck my asshole! Oh my big booty asshole!"

CNN: "we are still awaiting further clarification "
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on December 15, 2022, 09:55:45 PM
:lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on December 15, 2022, 09:56:15 PM
(https://static.themoscowtimes.com/image/article_1360/00/07890955859219_n.jpg)

My lovely lady lumps :elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 15, 2022, 10:19:59 PM
The one active mod of r/elonmusk is going down with the ship

Not allowing new posts and ranting about how Musk has transformed humanity
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 15, 2022, 10:23:56 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1603574688457936897
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on December 15, 2022, 10:27:31 PM
Doesn’t feel that good when you are in the receiving end of “it’s not free speech but private ownership”, eh journos?

Elon still a thin skinned bitch, though.  :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 15, 2022, 10:28:47 PM
Next step in the evilore trip has arrived, banning outside links

https://mobile.twitter.com/ofsevit/status/1603567897560883201
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on December 15, 2022, 10:33:38 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1603574688457936897

Of course it didn’t happen. Dude drives around in a car that has a 360 always on camera. If somebody did jump on the car he would’ve posted that footage.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 15, 2022, 10:42:18 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1603574688457936897

Of course it didn’t happen. Dude drives around in a car that has a 360 always on camera. If somebody did jump on the car he would’ve posted that footage.

Even a photo of a scratch on the car would have been nice lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 15, 2022, 10:43:26 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/nuooons/status/1603582998720421891
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 15, 2022, 11:07:06 PM
The show must go on

https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603600001057185792
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Transhuman on December 15, 2022, 11:41:23 PM
Is he referring to Lil Nas X or Lil Xan?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 15, 2022, 11:41:33 PM
I can't believe we get this for free

https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603609278664712192
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on December 15, 2022, 11:53:03 PM
https://twitter.com/ForeverEversley/status/1603612770892918784

 :point
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on December 16, 2022, 12:05:13 AM
https://twitter.com/ForeverEversley/status/1603612770892918784

 :point

Why the fuck Keffals is there? Elon could have just won any argument by pointing Keffals being in that conversation lol. It would be more worthwhile than anything he has done in last year.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Polident Hive on December 16, 2022, 12:19:15 AM
Might as well suspend every user in the chat room. See how far you can take it before people leave. The gaf way..
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 16, 2022, 12:29:56 AM
Might as well suspend every user in the chat room. See how far you can take it before people leave. The gaf way..

https://mobile.twitter.com/katienotopoulos/status/1603619497461616640
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on December 16, 2022, 02:28:35 AM
Well of course. It was an autocorrect error. Elmo meant to write he was a free speech absurdist.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on December 16, 2022, 03:29:57 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status/1603584361433120774

The internet is a dangerous place. He probably should block all external links, just to be safe.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on December 16, 2022, 04:20:55 AM
Well of course. It was an autocorrect error. Elmo meant to write he was a free speech absurdist.

:kobeyuck
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 16, 2022, 04:56:11 AM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603609466301059073 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603609466301059073)

:rejoice


Shame he banned Aaron Rupar though, where will we get Trump stand-up special coverage in real time :fbm


Might as well suspend every user in the chat room. See how far you can take it before people leave. The gaf way..
Those are probably the worst soy reeeeee Russiagate tumblr tier journo'sTM of all of them.
Not a bad idea to get them all in one sweep.

Also the kind of people that said they would leave Twitter for Mastodon and obviously didn't.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603651150498398208 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603651150498398208)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on December 16, 2022, 09:00:17 AM
The entire exchange was already posted above. Musky immediately left when he was questioned, and then kicked everyone out of the chatroom.
https://twitter.com/ForeverEversley/status/1603612770892918784

 :point
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 16, 2022, 11:44:18 AM
https://twitter.com/katienotopoulos/status/1603740900005396480
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 16, 2022, 12:33:21 PM
Either hes about to kill himself or the satellites are about to start bombing cities

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603804175858429952
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on December 16, 2022, 01:07:00 PM
Either hes about to kill himself or the satellites are about to start bombing cities

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603804175858429952

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JSRauM78_0
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 16, 2022, 01:10:04 PM
What are the odds the feds are about to drop some spicy spicy incitements and hes banning everyone who would report on them?
Wouldn't he have suspended people who might actually report these kinds of things though?

Why the fuck Keffals is there? Elon could have just won any argument by pointing Keffals being in that conversation lol. It would be more worthwhile than anything he has done in last year.
Not just Keffals, there's barely any "journalists" shown in this screenshot of supposed journalists. Lots of Twitter obsessives though.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on December 16, 2022, 01:15:03 PM
Either hes about to kill himself or the satellites are about to start bombing cities

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603804175858429952

NFT trading cards?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 16, 2022, 01:42:30 PM
Either hes about to kill himself or the satellites are about to start bombing cities

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603804175858429952

Taylor Lorenz getting banned
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 16, 2022, 02:01:33 PM
He's probably talking about the COVID stuff and the deep stateTM
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 16, 2022, 02:14:33 PM
https://twitter.com/TasneemN/status/1603796486344658947

Bans, bans for everyone
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 16, 2022, 02:21:25 PM
They should permanently suspend him for publishing conspiracy theories as his only work.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 16, 2022, 02:29:04 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkEE7tRUEAMZIM4?format=jpg&name=small)

wtf i love elon musk now
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 16, 2022, 03:51:34 PM
 :drudge :drudge :drudge

https://twitter.com/realMikeLindell/status/1603846182455083009
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: D3RANG3D on December 16, 2022, 03:57:30 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/2gcuDjC.png)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 16, 2022, 04:02:47 PM
MELT DOWN THE ELECTRONIC TWITTER MACHINES TOO!
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on December 16, 2022, 05:11:04 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/zndpti/elon_musk_stormed_out_of_a_twitter_space_and/

Quote
Give him some time and he’ll be pepper spraying journalists and storming out of meetings saying “don’t call anybody”

 :hesright
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 16, 2022, 05:39:24 PM
HOLY FUCK THE MY PILLOW GUY :rejoice

spoiler (click to show/hide)
And future RNC chairman
[close]
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 16, 2022, 05:39:37 PM
Seeing people going on CNN to talk about how they got banned is just too funny to me. I know it's a little bit more serious but the feeling prevails that this is kind of like someone going on TV because they just got banned from the Marvel subreddit.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 16, 2022, 05:40:36 PM
CNN soy journo's  :crybaby

My Pillow Enjoyers  :cruise
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 16, 2022, 05:45:30 PM
https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1603857581503569929 (https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1603857581503569929)

https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1603857609118859264 (https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1603857609118859264)

FBI demanding Twitter comedians to be banned. :dead
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 16, 2022, 05:57:35 PM
"You work at the FBI? So are you like hunting serial killers?"

"Yeah.... kind of...."

*flags @turdburgler's tweet "Free turd giveaway at every ballot station" for misinformation*
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 16, 2022, 06:18:41 PM
So that's why Riotous went back to ResetEra of all places. A new posting. :idont
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 16, 2022, 06:22:38 PM
twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1603857581503569929[/url]

twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1603857609118859264[/url]

FBI demanding Twitter comedians to be banned. :dead
Wild stuff, the FBI sent me an e-mail the other day too:
(https://i.imgur.com/va5VxS6.png)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 16, 2022, 06:24:22 PM
WHAT WE THOUGHT HAPPENED

FBI, CIA, etc etc all had backdoors into social media and could delete and ban at will

WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED

hai can u plz ban this guy his joke not funny thx!
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Polident Hive on December 16, 2022, 06:31:22 PM
Seeing people going on CNN to talk about how they got banned is just too funny to me. I know it's a little bit more serious but the feeling prevails that this is kind of like someone going on TV because they just got banned from the Marvel subreddit.

Perhaps I’m eternally stuck in Web 1.0 mind, or whatever it’s considered, because that’s still how I see it. Internet life is different from real life. There’s a reason I’m Polident Hive and not character actor Scott Glenn. We as a society need to return to internet normalcy. Zero Cool and Acid Burn. Neo and Trinity. xX_pwng0d_Xx > Jeff.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 16, 2022, 06:35:11 PM
Seeing people going on CNN to talk about how they got banned is just too funny to me. I know it's a little bit more serious but the feeling prevails that this is kind of like someone going on TV because they just got banned from the Marvel subreddit.
Is it though?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 16, 2022, 06:37:12 PM
Seeing people going on CNN to talk about how they got banned is just too funny to me. I know it's a little bit more serious but the feeling prevails that this is kind of like someone going on TV because they just got banned from the Marvel subreddit.

Perhaps I’m eternally stuck in Web 1.0 mind, or whatever it’s considered, because that’s still how I see it. Internet life is different from real life. There’s a reason I’m Polident Hive and not character actor Scott Glenn. We as a society need to return to internet normalcy. Zero Cool and Acid Burn. Neo and Trinity. xX_pwng0d_Xx > Jeff.
We just need to kick off all the people that can't install their own GPU's or open PDF's. Make the internet Great Again.

https://twitter.com/katienotopoulos/status/1603886760437522433 (https://twitter.com/katienotopoulos/status/1603886760437522433)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on December 17, 2022, 07:28:04 AM
After international criticism (the EU threatened sanctions because his actions violated its Digital Services Act and Media Freedom Act), Musk gave in and unbanned the journalists and mastodon's account.
(Of course he then pretended he only acted this way because of his twitter poll.)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on December 17, 2022, 08:20:25 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1603574688457936897

Of course it didn’t happen. Dude drives around in a car that has a 360 always on camera. If somebody did jump on the car he would’ve posted that footage.

Even a photo of a scratch on the car would have been nice lol

He never said he was in the car with the son.

It was probably a private security car like the beast.

Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 17, 2022, 11:47:02 AM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603985491505795072

Musk joins the like economy

(the irony of making the paid blue checks the new elite club)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on December 17, 2022, 12:38:03 PM
$20 to ban a user of your choice on twitter
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on December 17, 2022, 12:41:17 PM
$20 to ban a user of your choice on twitter

I'll give $15 to have james banned.

@demi
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 17, 2022, 03:37:50 PM
Once again we're seeing who were posters and who weren't. Real dudes remember when a mod/admin overstepped his authority, made a mistake, started banning people to cover up their tracks, etc etc. It never ends well for the mod/admin. It's nothing worth crying about or proclaim this the end of free speech. Let Elon cook himself. It won't be tomorrow, next week, next month. But it's gonna happen.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 17, 2022, 04:42:40 PM
A date that will live in infamy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_15,_2022_Twitter_suspensions
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 17, 2022, 04:56:35 PM
Jesus fucking christ :gurl
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 17, 2022, 06:18:11 PM
A real 9/11 I'm sorry January 6 moment.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on December 17, 2022, 06:27:56 PM
Quote
Strong Keep This page is a historical artifact at this point illustrating just how far left and biased wikipedia has become. Deleting it would be a disservice to the absolute absurdity of this page, it authors, and every editor and source who blatantly misrepresented the facts and illustrated such sensationalism over this matter. Kcmastrpc (talk) 22:48, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

 :rethread

Feel this mentality encapsulates the culture war shitshow.

“Is a shit Wikipedia page. Let it be so I can bitch about it with my social group and feel validated”.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on December 17, 2022, 10:26:40 PM
Once again we're seeing who were posters and who weren't. Real dudes remember when a mod/admin overstepped his authority, made a mistake, started banning people to cover up their tracks, etc etc. It never ends well for the mod/admin. It's nothing worth crying about or proclaim this the end of free speech. Let Elon cook himself. It won't be tomorrow, next week, next month. But it's gonna happen.

Comparing Elon to Amir0x :dead
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 17, 2022, 11:28:45 PM
A date that will live in infamy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_15,_2022_Twitter_suspensions
The original author used the title "Thursday night massacre" until other users changed it for obvious reasons   :lol

Quote
Thursday Night Massacre (Twitter) → December 15, 2022 Twitter suspensions – While the current title is certainly funny, article titles are not an appropriate place for tongue-in-cheek hyperbole. Compare this with the other events listed at the disambiguation page for "Thursday Massacre":

Hundreds of soldiers killed in the Battle of Tampere
Two separate incidents in 1934 where workers on strike were killed
Dozens of demonstrators shot dead in the 1956 Hungarian Revolution
Over a hundred people injured when police fired into a crowd in Berkeley in 1969
Four protestors killed in Bahrain in 2011
A search for articles with "massacre" in their titles returns almost entirely incidents in which large numbers of people were killed: Nanjing Massacre, Mỹ Lai massacre, Katyn massacre, etc. Given that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, our titles for articles should be attempts to describe them in terms that are accurate and neutral. jp×g 10:43, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 17, 2022, 11:56:55 PM
https://twitter.com/ParkerMolloy/status/1604337738202976256

 :teehee
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 18, 2022, 12:18:10 AM
Yeah, it's a joke if somebody like Parker wasn't banned too. Get to it, Elon. You gonna clean up this town or not?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on December 18, 2022, 01:02:26 AM
I'm drunk as hell and this Twitter drama is so petty and so stupid and so pointless I'm just laughing endlessly.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on December 18, 2022, 01:11:57 AM
I'm drunk as hell and this Twitter drama is so petty and so stupid and so pointless I'm just laughing endlessly.
It really is great, isn't it?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 18, 2022, 01:13:57 AM
I'm drunk as hell and this Twitter drama is so petty and so stupid and so pointless I'm just laughing endlessly.
It's payback for every time we had to mutter to the "normies" that they just wouldn't get it.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
:society
[close]
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 18, 2022, 01:20:27 AM
https://twitter.com/David_Leavitt/status/1604163227574603776
https://twitter.com/David_Leavitt/status/1604170885841256448
https://twitter.com/David_Leavitt/status/1604173239151779840
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on December 18, 2022, 02:39:56 AM
I'm drunk as hell and this Twitter drama is so petty and so stupid and so pointless I'm just laughing endlessly.
It really is great, isn't it?

Not since the XFL have I enjoyed a failure so thoroughly.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on December 18, 2022, 02:46:05 AM
I'm drunk as hell and this Twitter drama is so petty and so stupid and so pointless I'm just laughing endlessly.

Yeah I split infinitives when I'm drunk, FIGHT M?FR'
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 18, 2022, 03:07:45 AM
Taylor streamed on Instagram Live for who knows how long complaining about her ban being unfair, posted a bunch of times from an alt account that also got banned and has been issuing statements to reporters about how this threatens free speech for journalists all over the world. These people really do seem to think Twitter's entire existence is all about them personally. :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: jorma on December 18, 2022, 03:44:59 AM
https://twitter.com/David_Leavitt/status/1604163227574603776
https://twitter.com/David_Leavitt/status/1604170885841256448
https://twitter.com/David_Leavitt/status/1604173239151779840

not sure if this is a bit or a meltdown or both but when you manage to outwhine besada talking about his lack of fruitbaskets it's not just a little bit pathetic

this was totally worth 40 billion of someone elses money  :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 18, 2022, 04:10:40 AM
not sure if this is a bit or a meltdown or both but when you manage to outwhine besada talking about his lack of fruitbaskets it's not just a little bit pathetic

this was totally worth 40 billion of someone elses money  :lol
David Leavitt is not a bit (if he is, it's amazing) he has just recently tried to report people to Child Protective Services for tweets and among these Elon tweets was demanding another woman, attorney general of some state, be put in prison for life for misleadingly repeating the thing about fentanyl being harmful to police who touch it on Twitter.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: jorma on December 18, 2022, 06:48:53 AM
not sure if this is a bit or a meltdown or both but when you manage to outwhine besada talking about his lack of fruitbaskets it's not just a little bit pathetic

this was totally worth 40 billion of someone elses money  :lol
David Leavitt is not a bit (if he is, it's amazing) he has just recently tried to report people to Child Protective Services for tweets and among these Elon tweets was demanding another woman, attorney general of some state, be put in prison for life for misleadingly repeating the thing about fentanyl being harmful to police who touch it on Twitter.

well if that isn't award winning journalism i don't know what is
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Himu on December 18, 2022, 07:08:36 AM
Elon is treating Twitter like prime Evi-chan lmao
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 18, 2022, 07:40:01 AM
Elon brings us definitive evidence that the Washington Post and New York Times are just glorified Tumblr blogs :trumps
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 18, 2022, 07:55:54 AM
https://twitter.com/rawsalerts/status/1604366284958973953 (https://twitter.com/rawsalerts/status/1604366284958973953)

(https://media.tenor.com/-6TYsuD5BrUAAAAd/johnny-depp-johnny-depp-laughing.gif)


"I asked him like for a comment like as a journalist, is that like crayzeyy?"

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/650/747/aaf.png)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 18, 2022, 08:09:15 AM
https://twitter.com/larryelder/status/1604241522005708800 (https://twitter.com/larryelder/status/1604241522005708800)

https://twitter.com/LizRummy/status/1604343050838360064 (https://twitter.com/LizRummy/status/1604343050838360064)

 :crowdlaff :girlaff
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on December 18, 2022, 09:38:50 AM
https://twitter.com/rawsalerts/status/1604366284958973953 (https://twitter.com/rawsalerts/status/1604366284958973953)

(https://media.tenor.com/-6TYsuD5BrUAAAAd/johnny-depp-johnny-depp-laughing.gif)


"I asked him like for a comment like as a journalist, is that like crayzeyy?"

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/650/747/aaf.png)

She seems to be taking it well.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 18, 2022, 12:06:34 PM

(https://media.tenor.com/-6TYsuD5BrUAAAAd/johnny-depp-johnny-depp-laughing.gif)


"I asked him like for a comment like as a journalist, is that like crayzeyy?"

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/650/747/aaf.png)

I appreciate that even in that clip she reveals being terminally online "there's a great tweet about that, I can't find it right now"
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 18, 2022, 01:57:31 PM
https://twitter.com/PhillyD/status/1604543846892855297 (https://twitter.com/PhillyD/status/1604543846892855297)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on December 18, 2022, 03:08:10 PM
Elon Musk throwing another hissy fit. lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 18, 2022, 03:20:28 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if the ban actually boosts the popularity of those other sites, especially when there's a risk that the people I follow now get banned because they shared their Instagram handle or whatever
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on December 18, 2022, 03:26:30 PM
(https://imgur.com/90pPS3c.jpg)

Elon knows people won't leave his website.  He can basically do whatever he wants.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on December 18, 2022, 03:27:01 PM
Musk's Twitter takeover is the gift that keeps on giving.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on December 18, 2022, 03:31:39 PM
(https://imgur.com/90pPS3c.jpg)

Elon knows people won't leave his website.  He can basically do whatever he wants.

Only true with terminally only folk, not people that genuinely use Twitter to advertise themselves or a company.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on December 18, 2022, 03:34:29 PM
ban people linking their venmos, ko-fis and patreons and REALLY watch the terminally online revolt

:kermit
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on December 18, 2022, 03:40:18 PM
"Thou shalt not have other social media before me"

Watch him ban YouTube next, after making people pay for Twitter blue so they are allowed to upload longer videos.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on December 18, 2022, 03:47:55 PM
Ahahahahhaha!

https://mastodon.social/@arossp/109536131187807117
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 18, 2022, 03:53:21 PM
stop posting mastadon links :stahp
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on December 18, 2022, 04:32:45 PM
Why? This is The Bore, not Twitter.

(Would be nice if they could be embedded automatically here.)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 18, 2022, 05:17:08 PM
twitter.com/PhillyD/status/1604543846892855297
The man's trying to put all the hard working doxers out of business!
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 18, 2022, 05:42:10 PM
https://twitter.com/donmoyn/status/1604578066956800002 (https://twitter.com/donmoyn/status/1604578066956800002)

Erdogan explains how this man is doing gods work on twitter  :preach

Javanka :nope

Jelon  :ohyeah

"I don't get it jared why won't he post?"

"Maybe you should ban links to the other platforms"

"Hmmm interesting idea"
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 18, 2022, 06:32:21 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkS_6aRUUAAtMhx?format=jpg&name=large)

What the fuck is this timeline  :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 18, 2022, 06:33:47 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1604616863673208832 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1604616863673208832)
:trumps

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1604617643973124097 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1604617643973124097)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 18, 2022, 07:21:32 PM
Elon is losing the vote
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1604623424164282368 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1604623424164282368)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on December 18, 2022, 07:29:18 PM
Even the musk fanboys are voting yes since they want him to go back to cars and rockets.

When he loses the poll, he’ll just invent a new role for himself (I.e. technoking) and continue on.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 18, 2022, 07:30:33 PM
https://twitter.com/lexfridman/status/1604627087385661440 (https://twitter.com/lexfridman/status/1604627087385661440)

Who is this clown
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 18, 2022, 07:38:11 PM
lex friedman is such a chump, imagine wasting a rad name like lex by being a mega bitch ass nerd like he is.

i wonder if if takes him as long to type a tweet as it does for him to ask a question :thinking
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on December 18, 2022, 07:52:29 PM
https://twitter.com/TheQuartering/status/1604630363795513345

 :lol  The Quartering
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on December 18, 2022, 07:56:05 PM
From a few days ago:
https://www.axios.com/2022/11/16/elon-musk-twitter-ceo-new-leader
Quote
Elon Musk on Wednesday told a Delaware judge that he plans to "reduce my time at Twitter and find somebody else to run Twitter over time."

He has made up his mind already.
The poll is meaningless.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 18, 2022, 08:05:58 PM
From a few days ago:
https://www.axios.com/2022/11/16/elon-musk-twitter-ceo-new-leader
Quote
Elon Musk on Wednesday told a Delaware judge that he plans to "reduce my time at Twitter and find somebody else to run Twitter over time."

He has made up his mind already.
The poll is meaningless.

So this is one of those times where he's a little clever


...well not really since he publicly announced it already but it is funny how people are scrambling to vote yes or are begging him to stay. The latter probably comforting his ego
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 18, 2022, 10:12:32 PM
Didn't really expect him to want to continue to oversee the day to day after they replace management completely. Man wants to shitpost with his "bros" not actually run the company.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 18, 2022, 10:15:26 PM
twitter.com/donmoyn/status/1604578066956800002
FACT CHECK: Erdogan is a man of the people who gets praised for his good works by average passerbys:
https://twitter.com/mathaiaus/status/1571612919682695168
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 18, 2022, 10:27:28 PM
twitter.com/donmoyn/status/1604578066956800002
FACT CHECK: Erdogan is a man of the people who gets praised for his good works by average passerbys:
https://twitter.com/mathaiaus/status/1571612919682695168
That famous classic New York hospitality. love to see it
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Polident Hive on December 18, 2022, 11:11:25 PM
Saw 39 (and counting) iterations of the “he doxed himself!!” joke over Elon at the World Cup. Keep it going, guys. Between them and Elon making pronoun jokes in 2022, Twitter is almost too funny lately.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 19, 2022, 01:59:40 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkQlRWNaAAIHA4Q?format=jpg&name=small)

https://twitter.com/tressiemcphd/status/1604259317460439042
https://twitter.com/tressiemcphd/status/1604261748760010752
https://twitter.com/tressiemcphd/status/1604270114223935489

Quote from: https://sils.unc.edu/people/faculty/profiles/Tressie-McMillan-Cottom
Dr. Tressie McMillan Cottom is an award-winning author, professor, and sociologist, whose work has earned national and international recognition for the urgency and depth of its incisive critical analysis of technology, higher education, class, race, and gender. Her most recent accolades include a 2020 MacArthur Foundation Fellowship(link is external), informally known as the “genius grant.”
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on December 19, 2022, 02:42:37 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on December 19, 2022, 02:57:35 AM
got banned because i linked my onlyfans
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on December 19, 2022, 03:04:19 AM
also azealia banks was definitely right abut musk
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 19, 2022, 04:13:53 AM
Head of the French cyber police (whatever that is) decided to get in on the bad Section 230 takes for some reason:
https://twitter.com/ericfreyss/status/1604538198054535169
https://twitter.com/ericfreyss/status/1604566705312829447
https://twitter.com/ericfreyss/status/1604574216346828800
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on December 19, 2022, 07:17:16 AM
So he'll officially step down as CEO and install a figurehead to take the blame instead, while still remaining in charge behind the scenes.

Operation Fall Guy is a go.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Himu on December 19, 2022, 07:22:30 AM
Liberals were right about Elon.  Like Jesus you people were really screeching and being embarrassing but in the end he proved them right lmao
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 19, 2022, 07:39:44 AM
Were they right tho, he's turned out like 95% of message board owners (a gotten to, thin skinned flip flopper) rather than South African Hitler like the shit libs were screeching about :elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on December 19, 2022, 07:58:52 AM
they also said the site was running on duct tape and falling apart at the seams after having the employees gutted, and that on top of the technology failing and imploding, everyone would stop using it for moral/principled reasons and leave
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Himu on December 19, 2022, 08:20:42 AM
True. He's not a Nazi but he's a pretty good Wilco.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on December 19, 2022, 11:59:57 AM
Were they right tho, he's turned out like 95% of message board owners (a gotten to, thin skinned flip flopper) rather than South African Hitler like the shit libs were screeching about :elon

I mean, the most sane people would have tell you that he was full of shit regarding free speech being priority and his thin skinned flip flopping was clear given his behavior this last years. Thin skinned and free speech are not that compatible.

I would have liked to see Twitter get an overhaul in moderation and policies, something that Elon is must probably clueless about given he is a CEO of tech companies (social media is trickier). He also has the same issue as Trump of wanting to be loved by the liberal Elites and centrist middle class while mocking them (I’m going to appear with Dave Chappelle because his public totally love clueless white rich people).

I will say this, I don’t think Elon Musk is (or was) an idiot, he probably did a lot of good business decisions before his middle life crisis kicked on and social media rot his brain.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on December 19, 2022, 12:16:04 PM
Quote
Emile Myburgh
Johannesburg3h ago

As a fellow South African of the same generation as Elon Musk, it seems to me that his conduct can best be described by the rigid apartheid school system that we were subjected to. Petty, vindictive teachers who made up rules on the fly, who didn’t tolerate any criticism, whose word had to be accepted as the gospel, without question were the norm. More so at Elon Musk’s alma mater Pretoria Boys High. The trauma has clearly impacted him heavily and was clear for the whole world to see since he took over twitter. He has, in effect, become a reincarnation of his high school principal. All that he didn’t do at twitter, because he couldn’t, was to inflict corporal punishment with a rod.
https://nyti.ms/3BHDxAz#permid=122085756
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 19, 2022, 12:47:48 PM
they also said the site was running on duct tape and falling apart at the seams after having the employees gutted, and that on top of the technology failing and imploding, everyone would stop using it for moral/principled reasons and leave

Clearly he banned all the people who were in charge of good decisions
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on December 19, 2022, 01:03:22 PM
I can actually stream high quality videos on twitter.

That's already makes the 44 billion I spend worth it.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 19, 2022, 01:10:47 PM
Were they right tho, he's turned out like 95% of message board owners (a gotten to, thin skinned flip flopper) rather than South African Hitler like the shit libs were screeching about :elon

I mean, the most sane people would have tell you that he was full of shit regarding free speech being priority and his thin skinned flip flopping was clear given his behavior this last years. Thin skinned and free speech are not that compatible.

I would have liked to see Twitter get an overhaul in moderation and policies, something that Elon is must probably clueless about given he is a CEO of tech companies (social media is trickier). He also has the same issue as Trump of wanting to be loved by the liberal Elites and centrist middle class while mocking them (I’m going to appear with Dave Chappelle because his public totally love clueless white rich people).

I will say this, I don’t think Elon Musk is (or was) an idiot, he probably did a lot of good business decisions before his middle life crisis kicked on and social media rot his brain.
Elon probably thought that people would consider a CEO of a social media company that engages with the community and not as much the goverment or the big media corporations is a 'positive' overall even though change is messy and scary.
The same model he applied to cars with Tesla. Ignore the existing car companies or rather car industry of dealerships and corporations and be a disruptor in the market by directly selling to the consumer.

Basically the "boohoo we're leaving Twitter" crowd has shown him that his efforts are useless. No matter what he does, they will hate him and they are now the majority.
Looking at the poll it is clear that folks rather have the comfort of a weirdo stalker like Zuckerberg pushing corpo content and the FBI/CIA monitoring everything than a social media platform that is run by the community and challenges the status quo.

Elon has not been awarded for exposing the corrupt policies of the previous Twitter executives or leveling the playing field but has rather been punished for changing those things.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 19, 2022, 01:17:36 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Most people will have voted for him to step down cos it was funny
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Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on December 19, 2022, 03:21:24 PM
Tl;dr Nintex
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 19, 2022, 05:35:10 PM
Zucker should do a poll too.

Probably 65% yes
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 19, 2022, 05:49:40 PM
Should Xi Jinping remain CEO of Tiktok?

99% Yes

1% shot
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 19, 2022, 05:54:03 PM
they also said the site was running on duct tape and falling apart at the seams after having the employees gutted, and that on top of the technology failing and imploding, everyone would stop using it for moral/principled reasons and leave
Hmm do I believe your blatant fanboy lies in promotion of fascism or the truthful experts (who would never stoop to paying for a Blue Check and are extensively quoted by mainstream media journalists) who assured me the site would probably be gone by Thanksgiving and definitely wouldn't make it to the end of the year. :hmm
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 19, 2022, 06:20:06 PM
He's stupid, a special fellow, and possibly on drugs. Those are the only explanations. This is now the second time he has made an emotional decision that either disregarded the law or suggested he didn't know about the law. I'm of course referring to him firing EU Twitter employees via email which is illegal there, as well as the ban on "competitor" links which is also illegal there. Both decisions resulted in quick reversals. Now of course the question is did he simply not know, or was he warned by legal? I think it's both in the sense that his people tell him this stuff and he simply disregards it and does whatever he wants. That may work in some areas but not tech.

Even with the app store 20% thing, he was talking about that back in April 2022. Yet still tried to big dick Apple last month on it, only to have to concede defeat. None of this is rational behavior.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 19, 2022, 06:31:41 PM
He's stupid, a special fellow, and possibly on drugs. Those are the only explanations. This is now the second time he has made an emotional decision that either disregarded the law or suggested he didn't know about the law. I'm of course referring to him firing EU Twitter employees via email which is illegal there, as well as the ban on "competitor" links which is also illegal there. Both decisions resulted in quick reversals. Now of course the question is did he simply not know, or was he warned by legal? I think it's both in the sense that his people tell him this stuff and he simply disregards it and does whatever he wants. That may work in some areas but not tech.

Even with the app store 20% thing, he was talking about that back in April 2022. Yet still tried to big dick Apple last month on it, only to have to concede defeat. None of this is rational behavior.
he has Asperger's syndrome.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 19, 2022, 06:46:39 PM
He's stupid, a special fellow, and possibly on drugs. Those are the only explanations. This is now the second time he has made an emotional decision that either disregarded the law or suggested he didn't know about the law. I'm of course referring to him firing EU Twitter employees via email which is illegal there, as well as the ban on "competitor" links which is also illegal there. Both decisions resulted in quick reversals. Now of course the question is did he simply not know, or was he warned by legal? I think it's both in the sense that his people tell him this stuff and he simply disregards it and does whatever he wants. That may work in some areas but not tech.

Even with the app store 20% thing, he was talking about that back in April 2022. Yet still tried to big dick Apple last month on it, only to have to concede defeat. None of this is rational behavior.
he has Asperger's syndrome.
So now you're woke now too. Western society doomed.  :doge
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 19, 2022, 06:55:50 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkWrT3dVsAMzydQ?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on December 19, 2022, 07:08:24 PM
Astonishing amount of dumb motherfuckers on this website.   :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on December 19, 2022, 07:14:50 PM
Astonishing amount of dumb motherfuckers on this website.   :lol

Mostly just Himu these days :idont

spoiler (click to show/hide)
:teehee
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Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 19, 2022, 07:16:13 PM
I have no idea who he is but the guy has 866K followers and I like how he puts:
Quote
Thanks for the ❤️ for my Characters on #MARVEL & #WALKINGDEAD. #LGBTQ ⚠️  http://INSTAGRAM.Com/DANIELNEWMAN_ CLICK LINK TO FOLLOW ME THERE NOW😘⚠️
On #INSTAGRAMINSTAGRAM.com/danielnewman_
His Marvel character? Minuteman #18 on Loki. :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on December 19, 2022, 07:56:40 PM
God has moved to mastodon.
https://mastodon.social/@TheTweetOfGod@universeodon.com
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 19, 2022, 08:04:57 PM
God has moved to mastodon.
https://mastodon.social/@TheTweetOfGod@universeodon.com
Elon drives another fraudulent account off his platform! :rejoice
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on December 19, 2022, 08:12:06 PM
But he said he's real.
https://twitter.com/TheTweetOfGod

Would someone lie on the internet?

Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 19, 2022, 08:19:24 PM
But he said he's real.
https://twitter.com/TheTweetOfGod
More disinformation on Elon's Twitter smh
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on December 19, 2022, 08:20:43 PM
Linking to other social networks "counting as spam" is a total Evilore move :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on December 19, 2022, 08:48:47 PM
:lore
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 19, 2022, 11:22:34 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkYhZKkaAAAyMll?format=jpg&name=small)

I think The Quartering is a much better choice of co-CEO than Kim Dotcom.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 19, 2022, 11:24:47 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkYVrRLXgAMmTT9?format=jpg&name=small)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkYVrflXkAENLju?format=jpg&name=small)

 :juche
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 19, 2022, 11:27:52 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1604997465169711104
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 20, 2022, 02:06:40 AM
https://twitter.com/CultureCrave/status/1605012296387858432 (https://twitter.com/CultureCrave/status/1605012296387858432)

:elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: jorma on December 20, 2022, 02:35:15 AM
He's stupid, a special fellow, and possibly on drugs. Those are the only explanations. This is now the second time he has made an emotional decision that either disregarded the law or suggested he didn't know about the law. I'm of course referring to him firing EU Twitter employees via email which is illegal there, as well as the ban on "competitor" links which is also illegal there. Both decisions resulted in quick reversals. Now of course the question is did he simply not know, or was he warned by legal? I think it's both in the sense that his people tell him this stuff and he simply disregards it and does whatever he wants. That may work in some areas but not tech.

Even with the app store 20% thing, he was talking about that back in April 2022. Yet still tried to big dick Apple last month on it, only to have to concede defeat. None of this is rational behavior.

To be fair, as a former EU employee in a company that was at one point bought by a US company, this is NOT unique behaviour from 'murican owners. Just the fact that they have to negotiate salaries with the unions EVERY YEAR is enough to drive them insane.  :lol

That said, he can't blame it on ignorance because he's already done this with Tesla in Germany and should really know better.  :hmph
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Occam on December 20, 2022, 03:42:58 AM
So the poll wasn't an exit strategy? Is he really that dumb/deluded?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on December 20, 2022, 04:46:25 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkYVrRLXgAMmTT9?format=jpg&name=small)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkYVrflXkAENLju?format=jpg&name=small)

 :juche

Give them their 140 chars and a mule, goddamit!
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 21, 2022, 03:35:03 PM
https://twitter.com/BadLegalTakes/status/1605235330419814406
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on December 22, 2022, 06:08:43 PM
https://www.thestreet.com/technology/playstation-hacker-quit-twitter
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 23, 2022, 10:32:07 AM
Twitter added a public view count so everyone can see how many people saw your tweet but didn't bother to like it
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Transhuman on December 23, 2022, 10:42:04 AM
They're finally ahead of thebore on something
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 23, 2022, 11:31:45 AM
Twitter added a public view count so everyone can see how many people saw your tweet but didn't bother to like it

Millions of suicides incoming
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 23, 2022, 01:39:55 PM
Man this tweet is a banger what a great way to close out the year

(2 hours later)

Impressions
15
Engagements
3
Detail Expands
2
Likes
0


:fbm

But also

https://twitter.com/vrunt/status/1606177240609333250
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on December 23, 2022, 04:06:32 PM
You didn’t like my tweet about hanging Joanne. You a Nazi TERF BITCH by any chance?  :ufup
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 23, 2022, 04:24:57 PM
I'm all for it, it could lead to some amusing drama, like a for example an moviebob type finding out that someone he thought he was friends with has muted him cuz they never read his tweets :elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 23, 2022, 06:38:57 PM
https://twitter.com/williamlegate/status/1606059803989757952 (https://twitter.com/williamlegate/status/1606059803989757952)

https://twitter.com/williamlegate/status/1606061870653132800 (https://twitter.com/williamlegate/status/1606061870653132800)

:elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on December 23, 2022, 11:48:57 PM
30 views and 0 likes this is devastating
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on December 24, 2022, 07:55:35 AM
30 views and 0 likes this is devastating

CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES
THIS IS MY LAST RESORT
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 24, 2022, 09:47:48 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkrbPLgUcAIGZqo?format=jpg&name=large)

"hehe"
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on December 24, 2022, 01:53:53 PM
Waiting for the Dark Mode poll.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 24, 2022, 09:37:02 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkrV5MXWIAA4x3P?format=jpg&name=small)
https://twitter.com/RJonesLs/status/1605843994289745920

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkhVysfWAAM0iKB?format=jpg&name=360x360)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkhVysYWAAk93B2?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 27, 2022, 03:40:00 AM
https://twitter.com/davidzweig/status/1607390483696979968

 :dead :dead :dead
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on December 27, 2022, 04:01:21 AM
Musk might be fucking up, but don't anyone ever think that the idiots running Twatter were doing a good job.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 27, 2022, 04:58:08 AM
He's just moved the clown show into public view :society
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 27, 2022, 05:25:42 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1607850458554449920 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1607850458554449920)

Tesla almost down to $100 a share. Get ready to buy bois
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 29, 2022, 04:02:28 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FlH0k2PaYAAI04i?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 29, 2022, 04:53:51 AM
https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/artificial-incompetence
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 29, 2022, 11:20:41 AM
I wish the twitter addicts weren't so fucking annoying and lame cos they're making me side slightly more with muskrat and he's a fucking boob :stahp
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 29, 2022, 12:01:53 PM
https://twitter.com/RWMaloneMD/status/1608465481324793856 (https://twitter.com/RWMaloneMD/status/1608465481324793856)

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1608478734272847879 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1608478734272847879)

Elon has started to unban more folks. 2023 is going to be biblical
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 29, 2022, 12:07:53 PM
Robert Malone :nope
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 29, 2022, 04:54:36 PM
I don't know if it's anything Elon did or stopped doing (i.e. moderation and censorship) but in recent weeks Twitter has become much more enjoyable for me.

- Trending topics are no longer heavily curated and limited to big news outlets, meaning you get the actual conversations people are having about movies, TV shows, games etc. .
- Smaller accounts are much more visible. When I used to click on a hashtag like #nintendo I would only get the official Nintendo channels, a bunch of third party publishers and lots of stuff from IGN and the likes plus the biggest influencers. Now I get a ton of smaller content creators with all sorts of fan art, gameplay clips and more.
- Fewer intrusive ads. Most ads seem tailored to the topic at hand. When I'm looking at video game tweets I get ads for video games not some Chinese winter circus, garden hose bullshit or whatever
- Less clickbait and repeated tweets from bots, pretty much everything is original content
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on December 29, 2022, 07:27:53 PM
So Andrew Tate got arrested after his tweet accidentally revealed that he's in Romania, meaning if Musk had never unbanned him he would have never been caught. Elon, you genius.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on December 29, 2022, 11:00:46 PM
- Fewer intrusive ads. Most ads seem tailored to the topic at hand. When I'm looking at video game tweets I get ads for video games not some Chinese winter circus, garden hose bullshit or whatever
lol at you whitelisting Twitter
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on December 30, 2022, 09:26:08 AM
https://twitter.com/Cobratate/status/1608772573692854272 (https://twitter.com/Cobratate/status/1608772573692854272)

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1608828315581976576 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1608828315581976576)

We are at the part where literally the Matrix.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on January 01, 2023, 10:28:48 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1609634236138655745

 :gladbron
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 02, 2023, 09:21:15 AM
Remember when Brianna Wu cut that one dudes brakes? That was a pretty rubbish thing to do to someone :fbm
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on January 02, 2023, 09:29:22 AM
Better watch out Brianna or he'll drop some of those moon rocks on you

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5v3CB2U0AIwRHX.jpg)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on January 02, 2023, 09:35:45 AM
Clicked on Brianna's profile to check, and she doesn't have a pateron, god bless Frank for funding the madness himself and not making Brianna not having to grift :playa
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on January 02, 2023, 10:21:05 AM
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1609813773862289408 (https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1609813773862289408)

 :iface
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on January 02, 2023, 10:45:29 AM
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1609813773862289408 (https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1609813773862289408)

 :iface

wait until they find out about discord
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on January 02, 2023, 10:58:37 AM
Pedophiles and Nazi's are a booming market right now #lifehack #hustle #10xyourbusiness :money
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on January 03, 2023, 04:07:04 PM
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1609813773862289408 (https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1609813773862289408)
So it really is a Twitter replacement after all. :ohyou
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on January 04, 2023, 06:52:45 AM
https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1610445367430242305 (https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1610445367430242305)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on January 12, 2023, 07:06:27 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2023/jan/08/elon-musk-drove-more-than-a-million-people-to-mastodon-but-many-arent-sticking-around

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Elon Musk drove more than a million people to Mastodon – but many aren’t sticking around

More than 130,000 people were joining the new independent social media network a day in November. So why hasn’t it taken off?

The number of active users on the Mastodon social network has dropped more than 30% since the peak and is continuing a slow decline, according to the latest data posted on its website. There were about 1.8 million active users in the first week of January, down from over 2.5 million in early December.

Mastodon, an open-source network of largely independently hosted servers, has often been touted as an alternative to Twitter. And its growth appears connected to controversies at Twitter. But for many it doesn’t fulfil the role that Twitter did and experts say it may be too complicated to really replace it.

Quote
For many, Mastodon may have proved too hard to port over their communities and was just too complicated. Some may have gone back to Twitter, while others, said Coffey, may have dropped social media entirely.

“Everybody went and signed up [on Mastodon] and realised how hard it was, and then got back on Twitter and were like, ‘Oh, that’s, that’s hard. Maybe we won’t go there,’” she said.

“It’s like the people that said ‘I’m moving to Canada’ when Donald Trump was elected. They never actually moved to Canada.”

below this article:

(https://i.imgur.com/P5CW3ru.png)

 :lol :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on January 12, 2023, 03:23:14 PM
Lol, The Guardian's e-begging is getting ridiculous.

Also:
Quote
“It’s like the people that said ‘I’m moving to Canada’ when Donald Trump was elected. They never actually moved to Canada.”
:dead

I suspect the people who read The Guardian, those that threatened to move to Canada and didn't, and those that threatened to leave Twatter and didn't have a very high overlap in a Venn diagram.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on January 12, 2023, 04:02:41 PM
Lol, The Guardian's e-begging is getting ridiculous.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
it's the fact that the article is all about how the great Twitter exodus isn't really happening, but then the e-begging goes on and on about failing Elon Musk with his tiny userbase
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Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on January 12, 2023, 05:36:32 PM
Also:
Quote
“It’s like the people that said ‘I’m moving to Canada’ when Donald Trump was elected. They never actually moved to Canada.”
:dead

I suspect the people who read The Guardian, those that threatened to move to Canada and didn't, and those that threatened to leave Twatter and didn't have a very high overlap in a Venn diagram.
Yes, can definitely tell who they think their most willing to give audience is. :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on January 16, 2023, 11:30:24 AM
I think they changed their recommended tweets algorithm with the "for you" timeline? Because for some reason Twitter now thinks I'm really into clips of people fighting
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: jorma on January 16, 2023, 11:40:45 AM
I think they changed their recommended tweets algorithm with the "for you" timeline? Because for some reason Twitter now thinks I'm really into clips of people fighting

idk, "if you're on twitter you're probably into watching people fight" sounds like solid reasoning to me  :elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on January 16, 2023, 09:45:07 PM
One thing I'm grateful about Twitter is waking me up to the major literacy problem we have in this country, maybe especially among the college educated.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on January 16, 2023, 10:30:57 PM
One thing I'm grateful about Twitter is waking me up to the major literacy problem we have in this country, maybe especially among the college educated.
:ohyou
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 19, 2023, 03:25:09 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/jan/18/twitter-revenue-drop-advertising-squeeze-elon-musk

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Twitter remains in the grip of an advertising squeeze, with the social media platform hit by a 40% drop in revenue after more than 500 clients paused their spending, according to reports.

The company’s daily revenue was down 40% year-over-year, the tech newsletter the Platformer reported, while the news site the Information said staff were told more than 500 of Twitter’s top advertisers had halted spending since Elon Musk bought it in October.

Advertising is the main source of income for Twitter, accounting for more than 90% of its $5.1bn in revenue in 2021, but clients including Audi and Pfizer are among the firms that have paused after the Tesla CEO’s $44bn (£35bn) takeover.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on January 31, 2023, 07:16:54 PM
https://gizmodo.com/instagram-artifact-social-media-news-1850054951

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According to The Verge, one feature will show a feed of articles posted by people that the user chose to follow and will include commentary on the posts.

Holy shit! They just invented blogging and RSS!

Quote
The app will include publishers from both the left and right ends of the political spectrum, but Systrom said only outlets that adhere to quality editorial standards will be permitted to remain on the app. Artifact will reportedly work to remove outlets and posts that promote misinformation and will exercise its own judgment as to what can remain on the platform

I'm sure no one's going to have a problem with any of this. Nope.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on January 31, 2023, 08:23:50 PM
https://gizmodo.com/instagram-artifact-social-media-news-1850054951 (https://gizmodo.com/instagram-artifact-social-media-news-1850054951)
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The app will include publishers from both the left and right ends of the political spectrum, but Systrom said only outlets that adhere to quality editorial standards will be permitted to remain on the app. Artifact will reportedly work to remove outlets and posts that promote misinformation and will exercise its own judgment as to what can remain on the platform

I'm sure no one's going to have a problem with any of this. Nope.

Will be hilarious when all the lefty misinformation bloggers and YouTubers get banned.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I'm sure it goes without saying that the sperging right wingers will be up in arms also
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Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on January 31, 2023, 08:27:25 PM
Quote
The app will include publishers from both the left and right ends of the political spectrum, but Systrom said only outlets that adhere to quality editorial standards will be permitted to remain on the app. Artifact will reportedly work to remove outlets and posts that promote misinformation and will exercise its own judgment as to what can remain on the platform
What about outlets that completely fabricate stories without any sources (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russian-hackers-penetrated-us-electricity-grid-through-a-utility-in-vermont/2016/12/30/8fc90cc4-ceec-11e6-b8a2-8c2a61b0436f_story.html)?
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/814999056439214080
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on January 31, 2023, 10:10:26 PM
https://gizmodo.com/instagram-artifact-social-media-news-1850054951

Quote
According to The Verge, one feature will show a feed of articles posted by people that the user chose to follow and will include commentary on the posts.

Holy shit! They just invented blogging and RSS!

Quote
The app will include publishers from both the left and right ends of the political spectrum, but Systrom said only outlets that adhere to quality editorial standards will be permitted to remain on the app. Artifact will reportedly work to remove outlets and posts that promote misinformation and will exercise its own judgment as to what can remain on the platform

I'm sure no one's going to have a problem with any of this. Nope.

As long as I can call for the execution of the bourgeoisie every morning then they pass my test
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on February 01, 2023, 12:28:46 PM
Quote
The app will include publishers from both the left and right ends of the political spectrum, but Systrom said only outlets that adhere to quality editorial standards will be permitted to remain on the app. Artifact will reportedly work to remove outlets and posts that promote misinformation and will exercise its own judgment as to what can remain on the platform
What about outlets that completely fabricate stories without any sources (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russian-hackers-penetrated-us-electricity-grid-through-a-utility-in-vermont/2016/12/30/8fc90cc4-ceec-11e6-b8a2-8c2a61b0436f_story.html)?
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/814999056439214080
bernie wass an asset all along

:sad
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on February 01, 2023, 01:36:14 PM
:bernie :putin

spoiler (click to show/hide)
:hump
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Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on February 01, 2023, 01:41:10 PM
https://gizmodo.com/instagram-artifact-social-media-news-1850054951 (https://gizmodo.com/instagram-artifact-social-media-news-1850054951)
Quote
The app will include publishers from both the left and right ends of the political spectrum, but Systrom said only outlets that adhere to quality editorial standards will be permitted to remain on the app. Artifact will reportedly work to remove outlets and posts that promote misinformation and will exercise its own judgment as to what can remain on the platform

I'm sure no one's going to have a problem with any of this. Nope.

Will be hilarious when all the lefty misinformation bloggers and YouTubers get banned.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I'm sure it goes without saying that the sperging right wingers will be up in arms also
[close]
Usually their definition for the moderate left is Pol Pot while anything to the right of and including Chris Pratt is considered a Nazi.
"quality editorial standards" as defined by the FBI, Raytheon Missile Systems and purple haired former Twitter employees.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on February 01, 2023, 09:49:05 PM
https://twitter.com/KnowNothingTV/status/1620708464623513601

 :brain
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on February 02, 2023, 10:38:09 AM
musk bought twitter for the ai that's running on their servers
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on February 02, 2023, 07:52:21 PM
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/02/cash-strapped-twitter-to-start-charging-developers-for-api-access-next-week

:dead
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on February 03, 2023, 08:44:30 PM
https://twitter.com/3YearLetterman/status/1621669317510156288
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on February 07, 2023, 03:51:36 PM
dislikes incoming

you heard it here first

@elonmusk
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on February 09, 2023, 11:09:47 AM
https://www.teslarati.com/twitter-killer-mastodon-user-decline-50-percent/
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 09, 2023, 11:30:26 AM
Who'd have ever thought that this bigger scale than usual flaunting off twitter to mastadon/whoever would end up with the exact same result as all of the other times :titus

Its like those times people loudly declare they're leaving a message board but never do, except more people may have seen you make a tit out of yourself :girlaff
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Propagandhim on February 09, 2023, 12:08:26 PM
You couldn't pick a worse name for a social media platform than "Mastodon", let alone how baffling it was for the average user to understand and navigate through their fetty wap-iverses or whateverthefuck.  I still have no idea what that feta cheese shit is.   Some STEM neckbeard probably thought he was a genius for that one.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on February 09, 2023, 03:36:59 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1623777351338270720

 :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on February 09, 2023, 09:10:24 PM
https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer/status/1623006806749614085

 :fbm :usacry :usacry :usacry :usacry

maybe it's because you tweet constantly about a frivolous lawsuit against his company?
https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer/status/1623782297831981062
https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer/status/1623746103689547778
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Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: DJ Bedroom on February 11, 2023, 12:41:04 AM
You couldn't pick a worse name for a social media platform than "Mastodon"
Yeah, but it's a good fucking band though
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 11, 2023, 05:00:53 PM
https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer/status/1623006806749614085

 :fbm :usacry :usacry :usacry :usacry

maybe it's because you tweet constantly about a frivolous lawsuit against his company?
https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer/status/1623782297831981062
https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer/status/1623746103689547778
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why is she wearing someone else's skin over her face :info
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tasty on February 11, 2023, 05:09:32 PM
You couldn't pick a worse name for a social media platform than "Mastodon", let alone how baffling it was for the average user to understand and navigate through their fetty wap-iverses or whateverthefuck.  I still have no idea what that feta cheese shit is.   Some STEM neckbeard probably thought he was a genius for that one.

It's almost like they tried to come up with the most pasty white boy STEM nerd name possible. Like as a joke.

PROTIP: Never give your tech product's name more than three syllables. (Unless you're Jeff Bezos.)

FOSS guys are literally the worst people on earth when it comes to naming things -- so much so there's been not one, but two failed attempts (https://thenextweb.com/news/developer-forks-gimp-image-editor-over-naughty-name) at renaming Gimp in the last 10 years. (It didn't stick.) (https://glimpse-editor.org/posts/a-project-on-hiatus/)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on February 11, 2023, 05:26:51 PM
Maladjusted nerds pick silly names for products and other maladjusted nerds wonder why the mainstream doesn't use them...
 :ohhh
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on February 12, 2023, 04:39:52 PM
https://twitter.com/stevemullis/status/1624663731463655424

lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on February 12, 2023, 05:01:01 PM
If Elon wants to fix Twatter and get rid of a bunch of overpaid, poorly performing staff, he should just get rid of "the algorithm" entirely and let people see the tweets of the people they follow...
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: team filler on February 12, 2023, 06:03:39 PM
have you considered how the algorithm may feel about all this?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: chronovore on February 15, 2023, 04:28:18 AM
http://twitter.com/joejaggi/status/1625516697980489728
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on February 16, 2023, 04:22:05 PM
https://twitter.com/dril/status/1626276326410981376

https://twitter.com/dril/status/1626279450584453120
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on February 18, 2023, 05:36:22 AM
Just got a notification that mobile number 2FA is now a bluetick only feature, and I don't like that
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on February 18, 2023, 06:04:03 AM
Just got a notification that mobile number 2FA is now a bluetick only feature, and I don't like that

2FA is overrated, you just need a looooong password with words that are banned in China/Russia (i.e. the mecca of hackers).

So something like:

"Xi%Jinping#Loves!Winnie@The$Pooh@Putin!Is#A$Beautiful@Trans+Women"

They will have to decide if they want to hack you or be send to a prison/death camp and in some cases with their baked in censorship they will see your password as: ******************** :trumps
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: MMaRsu on February 18, 2023, 07:10:30 AM
You can still use any auth app for 2fa

but still shit
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on February 18, 2023, 05:16:25 PM
Just got a notification that mobile number 2FA is now a bluetick only feature, and I don't like that

https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1627059645293670401
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on February 18, 2023, 08:17:42 PM
is this because there's an incredibly minor cost associated with sending a text, but app 2FA is just synchronized math?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: team filler on February 18, 2023, 08:44:53 PM
Just got a notification that mobile number 2FA is now a bluetick only feature, and I don't like that

2FA is overrated, you just need a looooong password with words that are banned in China/Russia (i.e. the mecca of hackers).

So something like:

"Xi%Jinping#Loves!Winnie@The$Pooh@Putin!Is#A$Beautiful@Trans+Women"

They will have to decide if they want to hack you or be send to a prison/death camp and in some cases with their baked in censorship they will see your password as: ******************** :trumps
:rofl
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Coax on February 18, 2023, 08:56:45 PM
is this because there's an incredibly minor cost associated with sending a text, but app 2FA is just synchronized math?

Elon penny pinching. App 2FA is sync'd in the sense they both are based on the current time but there's no communication between each other. It's a custom seed applied to a clock, basically.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on February 19, 2023, 01:43:00 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpV1tZGWcAAXl3_?format=jpg)

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1627361145832017920 (https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1627361145832017920)

lmao
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on February 19, 2023, 02:22:15 PM
Zuckerberg's avi is fucking terrifying :existential
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on February 19, 2023, 02:44:26 PM
I did not expect that someone would look at Twitter blue and think it's a great idea to copy
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on February 19, 2023, 10:16:00 PM
Daddy musk charging people for a vector to be compromised

Amazing
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: chronovore on February 22, 2023, 01:41:58 PM
It’s remarkable to watch this march toward subscription plans on every service. No, thanks.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on February 22, 2023, 01:48:44 PM
It’s remarkable to watch this march toward subscription plans on every service. No, thanks.

I can get you granddaddied on the bore + plan.

PM for details
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on February 22, 2023, 02:04:17 PM
It’s remarkable to watch this march toward subscription plans on every service. No, thanks.
The ad business is pretty much dead and selling user data leads to bad PR situations so the only way to make money from these platforms is subscriptions.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on February 22, 2023, 03:22:32 PM
It’s remarkable to watch this march toward subscription plans on every service. No, thanks.
It's the ultimate consequence of the web being "free". Advertising has been a sustainable model because the barriers to entry were traditionally high in print, radio and television.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tuckers Law on February 22, 2023, 07:34:59 PM
Fuck ads, fuck advertising, and fuck all the advertisers behind them.  If everything goes to subscription because of the industry dying: Good.

I've long been convinced that advertising and marketing has done actual and substantial harm to human society as a whole, and nothing has yet convinced me otherwise.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on February 22, 2023, 07:51:25 PM
I think advertising and marketing are fine when it comes to presenting and explaining your products and making yourself known to the world.
It went off track with the 'purpose' marketing and of course dark patterns, algorithms and psychology hacks.

Especially because all the checks and balances that were created for TV ads and other forms of ads were thrown out the window when things were done digitally.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on February 22, 2023, 07:59:30 PM
Marketing is:
Too many people forget the first three and focus on the promotion part.

There's nothing wrong with understanding and working toward getting the right product into the right place at the right price. In fact, that part of the equation has been a net positive for humanity as it has led to a more efficient allocation of resources.

It's only when people pervert the promotion part with pressure selling or invasive promotional practices that take advantage of people. That's where regulation must come in and consumers given protected from unethical behaviours.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on February 22, 2023, 08:35:09 PM
Fuck ads, fuck advertising, and fuck all the advertisers behind them.  If everything goes to subscription because of the industry dying: Good.

I've long been convinced that advertising and marketing has done actual and substantial harm to human society as a whole, and nothing has yet convinced me otherwise.
Look into the attempts to quantify the value of it, especially online advertising.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on March 03, 2023, 06:05:15 PM
https://twitter.com/TitterDaily/status/1631649437838635008 (https://twitter.com/TitterDaily/status/1631649437838635008)

Elon's going to actually build that "Based AI" he tweeted about
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on March 04, 2023, 12:07:33 PM
He will train it on Nintex posts :trumps
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on March 07, 2023, 01:53:13 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1633011448459964417 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1633011448459964417)

 :whew
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on March 07, 2023, 03:41:55 PM
Nintex, next time you decide to side with the apartheid billionaire over Iceland's Man of the Year, maybe take a quick pause
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: chronovore on March 07, 2023, 04:31:54 PM
http://twitter.com/silviakillings/status/1632793217459519492
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on March 07, 2023, 06:11:00 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1632999216447647747 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1632999216447647747)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on March 07, 2023, 06:31:14 PM
https://twitter.com/williamlegate/status/1633176820072816640

 :waluigi
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on March 07, 2023, 10:40:08 PM
$100 million for a fucking design agency?

Kind of sums up why Twitter is such a basket case. What were they getting for that $100m?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on March 07, 2023, 11:09:50 PM
:whew
https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1633261069534724096
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: team filler on March 08, 2023, 01:19:48 AM
so he was trying to get fired so he can get paid lol

twitter prefers to keep him on and hope he dies before they have to pay him everything.

no wonder they have to layoff so many people. they got dudes like halli collecting fat checks and not having do any work because they can't fire him  :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on March 08, 2023, 03:13:27 AM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1633253950198624257 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1633253950198624257)

 :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Coax on March 08, 2023, 08:37:21 AM
I don't get the Musk sycophants on Twitter eager to temper criticism with praise for whatever he does. Like... what do they hope to get from it, a small chance of a Musk re-tweet at most?

That Simpsons meme made sense when it was relating to Tesla fanboys but this feels as pathetic as users trying to suck up to forum mods.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on March 08, 2023, 09:24:45 AM
I don't get the Musk sycophants on Twitter eager to temper criticism with praise for whatever he does. Like... what do they hope to get from it, a small chance of a Musk re-tweet at most?

That Simpsons meme made sense when it was relating to Tesla fanboys but this feels as pathetic as users trying to suck up to forum mods.

You leave Joe out of it, he's basically the next Musk of the forum world.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on March 08, 2023, 09:29:03 AM
Quote
Better to talk to people than communicate via tweet.

Said the owner of twitter  :dead
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on March 08, 2023, 09:57:41 PM
I don't get the Musk sycophants on Twitter eager
https://twitter.com/drmistercody/status/1633609663626493954
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on March 08, 2023, 11:00:46 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/f1fLixp.png)

(https://media.giphy.com/media/iQEOg3zGJBXLa/giphy.gif)

(https://i.imgur.com/2iFo87K.png)

oh thank god
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: team filler on March 08, 2023, 11:03:36 PM
I don't get the Musk sycophants on Twitter eager to temper criticism with praise for whatever he does. Like... what do they hope to get from it, a small chance of a Musk re-tweet at most?

That Simpsons meme made sense when it was relating to Tesla fanboys but this feels as pathetic as users trying to suck up to forum mods.
I agree, but I also feel it's dumb in the other direction. people who just blindly hate anything the guy does no matter what. it's not exactly the worst thing in the world to have a billionaire who isn't so old and out of touch, or a robotic dork like zuck. elon does understand the internet well enough and is often just being a troll. he also understands tech and invests in cool stuff and is most likely a good source of funding for a lot of tech people who praise him.

it does get a little much with all the "he's the new nikola tesla!"  :derp
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Tuckers Law on March 09, 2023, 10:53:34 AM
Anytime I see someone act like Elon is the Goebbels to Joanne's Hitler, I just kind of check out and assume anything they say is distinguished mentally-challenged.  It certainly makes talking with a couple of my friends (who cannot stand the guy) interesting.   :derp
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on March 09, 2023, 04:37:18 PM
https://twitter.com/qcapital2020/status/1633260850357104640

 :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on March 10, 2023, 05:26:04 AM
https://twitter.com/imbadatlife/status/1633815023813287939

 :elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on March 21, 2023, 10:17:09 PM
 :drudge

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/03/antisemitism-on-twitter-has-more-than-doubled-since-elon-musk-took-over/
(https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/twitter-hate001-640x480.png)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: team filler on March 22, 2023, 02:29:49 AM
 :rejoice
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on March 22, 2023, 04:08:01 AM
The only time anyone on the left cares about anti-Semitism is when they can use it as cudgel to bash someone on the right.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 22, 2023, 07:52:40 AM
What a dumb fucking statement. 
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on March 22, 2023, 08:04:28 AM
I'm willing to be proven wrong.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 22, 2023, 08:34:44 AM
Ya, I'm not going to spend my time looking for evidence since, on the bases of that statement, any such evidence will just be written off as only done to bash someone on the right.  This thread in a nutshell 'LOL the left cares about hate speech online and thinks the sky is going to fall because Musk is taking over',  sees a graph of hate speech increasing 'LOL like the left actually cares about hate speech'.  And note this has nothing to do with the legitimacy of that graph, but with the reactions in this thread.  Instead of a comment on the content of the graph it is 'LOL like the left actually cares about anti-Semitism dur hur' with a Nintex like as a stamp of stupidity.  Sure, when all you see of 'the left' tweets from randos in the culture war thread about Isreal and you don't see anyone on the left explicitly denouncing anti-semantic -- because that is, you know, a special kind of bigotry that needs to be denounced specifically apart from any other kind of bigotry or else it's not a real denouncement --  then I can see how an idiot might conclude that people on the left do not care about anti-Semitism.  I don't remember you being this distinguished mentally-challenged a few years ago.  What happened to you?

edit:  Let me put this another way.  Because you don't care about hate speech, you dismiss 'the left' concern over it, and since it is not a valid concern, concern about hate speech does not count towards concern about anti-Semitism.  Then, having dismissed the left's concern over hate speech, you have the gall to make a post amounting to saying that you've never seen the left denounce anti-Semantism, at least when it wasn't just some performative act against the right, which just adds a whole other level of dumb to the statement, because the outcome of that kind of thinking is there will never be a denouncement of anti-Semitism that isn't just performative.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on March 22, 2023, 09:54:56 AM
I guess I left the thought only half finished, so I'll finish it here.

"The left" is happy to wheel out the token Jew to say "don't be anti-Semitic" and then never mention them ever again, but then they are equally happy to straight-faced call Israel a terrorist state.

The same way "the right" is happy to say "support Israel", while happily being blatantly racist towards Jewish people on an individual basis.

My point is that neither side of the coin gives a fuck about Jewish people outside of what blows they can land in a culture war and, if I was a Jew, I'd be telling both groups to "get my people's name out your fucking mouth".

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Yes, yes, I'm totally both sidesing it. No I don't care. This thread was a joke from the beginning and it's never been one for serious discussion hence my throwaway comment and snide response. Sue me.
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Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on March 22, 2023, 12:20:36 PM
My take is that jewish women are good (many have very large breasts) but jewish men are bad (those beards are nasty)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on March 23, 2023, 07:08:21 PM
https://twitter.com/verified/status/1639029459557679104

Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on March 23, 2023, 07:42:16 PM
Exactly what the Nazis did.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Maiden Voyage on March 23, 2023, 08:24:22 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/5bssy3F.jpg)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on March 23, 2023, 08:57:10 PM
https://twitter.com/MrTooDamnChris/status/1638956701125582853
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on March 24, 2023, 12:11:21 PM
https://twitter.com/MattNavarra/status/1639208236527001600

 :dead
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on March 24, 2023, 12:43:57 PM
Best idea he's ever had
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on March 29, 2023, 11:43:48 PM
Quote from: https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2023-03-29/commentary-if-twitter-dies
Commentary: If Twitter finally dies, where do we find the smart people?

For a decade, Twitter was the premier watering hole for the chattering classes. But where does everybody go if it dries up?
Quote
But the reality is we don’t have — and may never again have — another one-stop watering hole where many of the planet’s most interesting celebrities, politicians, activists, scientists, journalists, comedians and other assorted smart people will rub elbows with one another and also with you. Twitter, in its heyday, revealed that brilliant and well-informed people are everywhere, most of them aren’t famous, and sometimes they’d appear in your mentions in the dead of night. Sometimes you’d see talented people simply ruining themselves. There are surely books that don’t exist because smart people were tweeting so much instead of working. The service was lively, authentic and substantive enough to serve as a de facto assignment editor for working journalists — sometimes too often.

Now that peculiar experience is fading away. We’ll have to work harder to seek out the brilliant, for reasons that are more subtle than you’d think.
Quote
Like a lot of people, I post on social media in my free time to satisfy an admittedly mortifying existential desire for recognition. However, also like a lot of people, I have more dignity than to ever pay a single cent to Musk to publicly indulge that impulse. I’d rather hang out somewhere that actually wants to have people like me around. But where?

We’re getting something like two decades deep into our international social media experiment, and a lot of us aren’t satisfied with the results. Congress’ recent trashing of ultra-hot video app TikTok has been interestingly bipartisan, with critiques going beyond the company’s ties to China in ways that implicate all our major platforms. The very mass of the platforms themselves poses unusual systemic risks for our democracies, especially in terms of their ability to structure debate both online (through content moderation) and offline (through lobbying and political mobilization).

It was Twitter’s mass, its strong network effect, that made it such a valuable service for many years. Twitter was kind of like a Silicon Valley Bank for newsmakers and news followers; you could deposit almost all your time into Twitter knowing others like you were doing it too. And now that the place seems to be imploding, it seems like the systemic risks were a little bigger than we expected.

Consider how the world worked before Twitter’s creation in 2006. A lot of Americans lived in places that had well-staffed and profitable local newsrooms, magazines, radio stations and other independent media outlets that served as cultural and intellectual portals to the world, with the nascent internet giving a huge boost to the variety of your average consumer’s options. Survey data nonetheless showed more people reading a newspaper more often than getting news from the internet.

As much as we love newspapers and magazines around here, even your trusty L.A. Times writer knows consumption habits are far different now and won’t be going back, so there’s no point in getting sentimental about it. But the point is that a hypothetical world without Twitter in 2023 is far different from the world without Twitter in 2006 — we are now missing a whole middle layer of cultural institutions that helped provide the fiber for how we intellectually process the chaos of the world. Countless journalists who interrogated the political, cultural and social issues of the day no longer work in the industry, especially in suburban and rural communities. Many newspapers, magazines, alt-weeklies and other journals simply no longer exist; many more exist as mere shadows of themselves. Knowledge work has been deindustrializing itself from its geographic constraints and offshored to the internet, where the labor is cheaper and often free.

Now that labor is yours. If you’re leaving Twitter today, you are going to have to really sweat to find the same quantity and quality of thinkers who interest you. They might be secluding themselves on Instagram or LinkedIn, or experimenting with the visual anarchy of TikTok. They might have started a Substack and are charging a subscription rate that might have once bought you a whole magazine’s worth of writers. They could have started a podcast, though it’s possible their show might be on the chopping block. Maybe they’re on Mastodon, but, then again, maybe not. YouTube? Facebook? There’s only so much the New York Times op-ed page can say to us.
:hmm

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:era
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Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on March 30, 2023, 01:48:02 AM
Imagine being such a fucking narcissist you think people on Twitter are the "smart people" just because you are on Twitter.

Has there ever been a bigger concentration of misinformation and anti-intellectual thought in human history than Twitter?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: team filler on March 30, 2023, 03:37:06 PM
they can come back to messageboards  :rejoice
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on March 31, 2023, 02:31:07 PM
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1641803295894241280

 :tauntaun
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on March 31, 2023, 06:28:12 PM
It should be a hard limit, only top 10,000 updated by the second. :money
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on April 03, 2023, 05:30:20 PM
https://twitter.com/alx/status/1642946079669866496

 :elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on April 03, 2023, 05:44:53 PM
...reported as news on twitter itself, where everyone has already seen it...
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: team filler on April 03, 2023, 06:05:30 PM
 :doge
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on April 03, 2023, 07:28:13 PM
Sold all my :doge because it surged 30%.

Thank you for bailing me out Elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Maiden Voyage on April 04, 2023, 07:56:18 AM
https://twitter.com/alx/status/1642946079669866496

 :elon

Gonna need a source on this one, bud.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on April 04, 2023, 11:12:47 AM
Gonna need a source on this one, bud.

I saw it myself like an hour before it was posted here, I thought there might be some weird reason behind it like a google doodle but just shrugged

by the time the tweet was here I think it was changed back, it was very brief
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on April 04, 2023, 11:34:15 AM
EPIC MEMEING
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Maiden Voyage on April 04, 2023, 11:35:28 AM
Gonna need a source on this one, bud.

I saw it myself like an hour before it was posted here, I thought there might be some weird reason behind it like a google doodle but just shrugged

by the time the tweet was here I think it was changed back, it was very brief

Still there for me. I read that the Konami code makes the doge spin.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on April 07, 2023, 05:41:07 PM
Friendship with Elon over :(

https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1644442463766212608
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on April 09, 2023, 07:59:05 AM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1644439286341840897

 :snoop
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on April 09, 2023, 08:14:21 AM
(https://media.tenor.com/cH9gfgKqp-cAAAAC/umm-wait.gif)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on April 09, 2023, 01:55:49 PM
Whats the problem with that badge?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on April 09, 2023, 02:13:57 PM
Whats the problem with that badge?
The blue checks were designed to prevent impersonations but now that Elon sells those to everyone for $8 a second badge is necessary.
Which basically means that we're back to square one, special badges for special people.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on April 09, 2023, 03:11:03 PM
Open the damn twitter MTX store. I'd pay $30/mo for the affiliate badge
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on April 09, 2023, 04:02:51 PM
Whats the problem with that badge?
The blue checks were designed to prevent impersonations but now that Elon sells those to everyone for $8 a second badge is necessary.
Which basically means that we're back to square one, special badges for special people.

No?

One is verification and the other is association.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on April 09, 2023, 06:24:49 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1645155537904889857 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1645155537904889857)

:elon

Also since when did anon become suck cucks :neogaf
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on April 09, 2023, 06:54:00 PM
I think all those accounts are just random dudes who claim they invented and led Anonymous or something as if anyone even remembers what that was.

This is the real Anonymous:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNO6G4ApJQY
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BrokenVerses on April 11, 2023, 11:35:06 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1645155537904889857 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1645155537904889857)

:elon

Also since when did anon become suck cucks :neogaf

Medveded's 5 buzzwords a sentence rant looks insane to anyone that isn't deeply marinated in Russian propaganda anyways.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on April 12, 2023, 07:58:26 AM
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-04-11/twitter-becomes-x-corp-as-musk-advances-everything-app-hopes

X gon give it to ya, fuck waiting for you to get it on your own, X gon deliver it to ya
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on April 12, 2023, 11:52:44 AM
https://twitter.com/darrengrimes_/status/1646115621032325122 (https://twitter.com/darrengrimes_/status/1646115621032325122)

:elon


Great journalisming

Guy could've just opened Medvedev's feed for some casual holocausting.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on April 12, 2023, 12:35:38 PM
How are journalists still falling into the trap of "I'm gonna ask you something".
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on April 12, 2023, 02:16:32 PM
twitter.com/darrengrimes_/status/1646115621032325122

:elon


Great journalisming

Guy could've just opened Medvedev's feed for some casual holocausting.
Elon let him off pretty easy but Darren Grimes let him off even more, the guy argued he doesn't even read Twitter anymore so wouldn't know and was just repeating something he heard somebody else say. :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on April 12, 2023, 02:18:41 PM
how hard is it to say, all I am looking for is your opinion on all the people who say twitter has gotten worse, if your official response is that they don't like you and it's not true then that's fine, but it's not my claim you're countering, it's theirs

or say, any example I could possibly give you would be anecdotal and not necessarily representative of a trend, so what's the point in me naming one thing, I just want to know what you think of the claim
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on April 12, 2023, 02:20:04 PM
how hard is it to say, all I am looking for is your opinion on all the people who say twitter has gotten worse, if your official response is that they don't like you and it's not true then that's fine, but it's not my claim you're countering, it's theirs
A journalist not making themselves the center of their story is how fascism wins.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on April 12, 2023, 02:48:27 PM
how hard is it to say, all I am looking for is your opinion on all the people who say twitter has gotten worse, if your official response is that they don't like you and it's not true then that's fine, but it's not my claim you're countering, it's theirs

or say, any example I could possibly give you would be anecdotal and not necessarily representative of a trend, so what's the point in me naming one thing, I just want to know what you think of the claim
If he wasn't so soy he could've just whipped out his phone and literally searched for any recent event  :doge

But I agree with Elon, Twitter hasn't gotten worse. It's gotten better actually but it really depends on the topics and people you follow.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on April 12, 2023, 06:46:21 PM
https://twitter.com/alifarhat79/status/1646128052789813248 (https://twitter.com/alifarhat79/status/1646128052789813248)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on April 17, 2023, 02:51:48 PM
https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1647944963919937540 (https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1647944963919937540)

:elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on April 19, 2023, 01:23:47 AM
https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1648068589809971200

 :cancry :cancry :cancry :cancry

spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ft9X59bXwAEybhm?format=jpg&name=small)

Nice. :phil
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Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on April 19, 2023, 06:30:16 AM
I don't really get the upset about the government funded label? Hasn't YouTube done this for quite a while for various publications?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on April 19, 2023, 09:58:50 AM
I don't really get the upset about the government funded label? Hasn't YouTube done this for quite a while for various publications?

Because it classes them in the same category as propaganda media outlets.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on April 19, 2023, 02:49:52 PM
What's especially dumb is that all these things are in fact, government funded.

I remember when the governments would also label things as such themselves.
The EU for instance, would also put up a sign next to gay parks and roads they funded or their stupid flag on websites no one visits.

These days it's all hush hush, only if you carefully look or investigate you find out if things are government funded or not.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on April 20, 2023, 06:56:54 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1649173502572765185?cxt=HHwWgoCxnYOkheMtAAAA

 :neogaf
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on April 20, 2023, 09:55:11 PM
The language on that pop-up is so misleading. :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on April 21, 2023, 02:32:47 AM
https://twitter.com/amuse/status/1649235542167388163 (https://twitter.com/amuse/status/1649235542167388163)

:dead
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on April 21, 2023, 07:35:50 AM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1649255827725844481
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on April 21, 2023, 11:01:53 AM
https://twitter.com/Ian_Gay_briel/status/1649422882357821441
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on April 21, 2023, 03:49:02 PM
https://twitter.com/travisbrown/status/1649433999914270722
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on April 21, 2023, 03:50:39 PM
https://twitter.com/JoeyMannarinoUS/status/1649262376485568512
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: team filler on April 21, 2023, 03:59:34 PM
 :neogaf
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on April 21, 2023, 05:04:59 PM
https://twitter.com/SaeedDiCaprio/status/1649423693838274564

Somehow it now went from "they think they're better than us because they have a checkmark" to "they think they're better than us because they're not buying a checkmark"

The checkmark was never intended as status symbol and I'd wager that 99% of twitter users also never saw it as one.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on April 21, 2023, 05:29:19 PM
I wish Occam was here for this :stahp
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on April 21, 2023, 05:37:30 PM
twitter.com/JoeyMannarinoUS/status/1649262376485568512
Quote
I paid because if George Washington was alive today, he’d be paying too.
:usacry :usacry :usacry :usacry

twitter.com/SaeedDiCaprio/status/1649423693838274564
Maybe they won't pay $8 because they don't see the value? They think the rich celebrities were getting verified for the status instead of trying to protect their brand? Those were never who anybody was talking about when they criticized the Blue Check, nor the admitted benefits Twitter gave them in moderation/etc. That was more about people like fraudsters like Alejandra Caraballo/Brianna Wu or advanced humans like MovieBob.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: team filler on April 21, 2023, 05:49:09 PM
beyonce doesn't even like my posts, why is she such a big deal  ::)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on April 21, 2023, 05:54:27 PM
Somehow it now went from "they think they're better than us because they have a checkmark" to "they think they're better than us because they're not buying a checkmark"

(https://i.imgur.com/hibcwbB.png)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on April 21, 2023, 06:27:49 PM
I wish Occam was here for this :stahp
Petition to change the thread title to

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Muskrat to buy Twitter. Occam to abandon thebore.
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Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on April 21, 2023, 06:59:25 PM
Quote
Last Active:December 24, 2022, 12:21:36 AM
:salute

:elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Polident Hive on April 21, 2023, 10:31:35 PM
Search is broken for non-users, at least on my phone browser. I don’t value Twitter enough to sign up, but it’s once again society disrespecting lurkers. We deserve rights!
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on April 21, 2023, 10:37:12 PM
https://twitter.com/WhitlockJason/status/1649372549115936768

 :jeanluc
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: team filler on April 21, 2023, 10:37:53 PM
I still haven't made a new account since my last one got deleted  :doge


maybe I should make one and pay to be verified  :pimp
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on April 21, 2023, 10:46:20 PM
https://twitter.com/Alyssa_Milano/status/1649168451028799488

 :stahp
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on April 22, 2023, 12:54:46 AM
finally got graciously invited to Bluesky last week. feels good. gonna try to do some kind of project with its protocols.  8)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on April 22, 2023, 12:55:51 AM
https://twitter.com/Alyssa_Milano/status/1649168451028799488 (https://twitter.com/Alyssa_Milano/status/1649168451028799488)

 :stahp
Stick to being the hot mum in Spiderman films Alyssa. You're better at that.

 :rash
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on April 22, 2023, 05:25:23 AM
Nature is healing

https://twitter.com/FrncisFukyomama/status/1649199610311720961 (https://twitter.com/FrncisFukyomama/status/1649199610311720961)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on April 22, 2023, 12:34:33 PM
https://twitter.com/Alyssa_Milano/status/1649168451028799488

 :stahp

doesn't need to be pointed out but I will rage anyway

:rage

alyssa, people have been able to sign up with your exact name to every service on earth since they were invented, there could be a bore user named alyssa milano who posts that they spit on people in wheelchairs, that doesn't make the bore liable for defamation, identity theft or fraud

when starbucks asks me my name for the cup, I can say "alyssa milano, also there's no such thing as a trans genocide" and starbucks would not be liable for that
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on April 22, 2023, 08:39:21 PM
https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1649922739354861568

Disinformation fighting reporters stop posting disinformation challenge. (Impossible.)

The replies and people elsewhere are discussing a "class action" and other completely incoherent legal claims against Elon personally.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: team filler on April 22, 2023, 11:29:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnqgJGU4u0E
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on April 23, 2023, 07:03:40 AM

Stick to being the hot mum in Spiderman films Alyssa. You're better at that.


:trigger Alyssa Milano is the 90s hot girl Starlord named his spaceship after, Marisa Tomei is the AILF from the new Spiderman movies, and once dated George Constanza  :expert
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on April 23, 2023, 07:56:30 AM

Stick to being the hot mum in Spiderman films Alyssa. You're better at that.


 :trigger Alyssa Milano is the 90s hot girl Starlord named his spaceship after, Marisa Tomei is the AILF from the new Spiderman movies, and once dated George Constanza  :expert

 :nerds


spoiler (click to show/hide)
Show me a man who hasn't confused his hot middle aged Italian women and I'll show you someone who is not a man
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Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on April 23, 2023, 08:40:41 AM
Her best role was in ER.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on April 23, 2023, 09:44:31 AM
https://twitter.com/Alyssa_Milano/status/1649168451028799488


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FuV6bLBaQAADI0S?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on April 23, 2023, 10:20:59 AM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1649940010777341952
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: team filler on April 23, 2023, 01:17:27 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on April 23, 2023, 02:33:25 PM
paying $44bil for twitter and then another $8/mo for some blue checks  :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on April 23, 2023, 03:45:18 PM
Starting to notice the effect of Twitter blue and how the first replies under any tweet are from checkmark people
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on April 23, 2023, 06:00:50 PM
As of late my Twitter feed has become less corpo, more random and more uncensored.  :doge
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on April 23, 2023, 06:57:34 PM
Starting to notice the effect of Twitter blue and how the first replies under any tweet are from checkmark people

Been that way for a while I feel like.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on April 23, 2023, 09:33:20 PM
https://twitter.com/dril/status/1649865374954061824
https://twitter.com/dril/status/1649867116789768192
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on April 24, 2023, 03:03:42 AM
Twatter continues to be the worst platform with the worst users. Utter fucking twats.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on April 24, 2023, 03:05:10 AM
This website is free :rejoice
https://twitter.com/CaesarSilverbe1/status/1650103646221221888 (https://twitter.com/CaesarSilverbe1/status/1650103646221221888)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on April 25, 2023, 03:47:00 AM
Elon doxxed his own burner :dead
https://twitter.com/RealYouTubeKids/status/1650665677152296961 (https://twitter.com/RealYouTubeKids/status/1650665677152296961)

https://twitter.com/RealYouTubeKids/status/1650687628696514561 (https://twitter.com/RealYouTubeKids/status/1650687628696514561)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on April 28, 2023, 12:12:31 AM
https://twitter.com/SarahNEmerson/status/1651745775934914560
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Transhuman on April 28, 2023, 12:26:56 AM
https://twitter.com/darrengrimes_/status/1646115621032325122 (https://twitter.com/darrengrimes_/status/1646115621032325122)

:elon


Great journalisming

Guy could've just opened Medvedev's feed for some casual holocausting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zq066kfeHs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JCtiDx9pX8

Who did it better?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on April 28, 2023, 02:20:54 AM
I have a Bluesky invite code to give out now, not to any of you tho
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on April 28, 2023, 05:02:15 AM
I have a Bluesky invite code to give out now, not to any of you tho

So cool! Do you have any Google Plus also?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on April 28, 2023, 12:43:40 PM
Yes, waiting for the right time to sell them for $thousands on ebay
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Transhuman on April 29, 2023, 02:52:37 AM
I'm surprised by how many people I see subscribed to twitter blue, but I guess that's the point. The posts from people who don't have it don't get seen I guess
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on April 29, 2023, 05:52:50 AM
https://twitter.com/dril/status/1652098044207464448

:hesright
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on April 29, 2023, 07:41:10 AM
The very first thing people wanted from the twitter competitor was the ability to block people.  :lol

https://twitter.com/MikeIsaac/status/1652137400527884289

Welcome to new twitter, everyone hates eachother here too
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on April 29, 2023, 11:32:32 PM
Is the CEO of bluesky trans? Going off the photos of them

Jay Graber
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: chronovore on May 02, 2023, 01:03:33 AM
https://twitter.com/Alyssa_Milano/status/1649168451028799488


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FuV6bLBaQAADI0S?format=jpg&name=medium)

You do understand the difference between rich people paying a fair share of taxes to contribute to a functioning society, and a monthly subscription fee for an optional service because Muskrat doesn't have a working business plan, right?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: team filler on May 02, 2023, 01:07:55 AM
I don't blame the rich for not wanting to pay more in taxes. they know how it gets spent. mostly goes out to private contractors or other wasteful spending. so they get taxed to help make some asshole with a government contract rich and it's usually not doing much good for the country at all.

it's understandable they'd rather contribute directly to their own charities tbh  :yeshrug
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on May 02, 2023, 01:16:01 AM
https://twitter.com/Alyssa_Milano/status/1649168451028799488 (https://twitter.com/Alyssa_Milano/status/1649168451028799488)


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FuV6bLBaQAADI0S?format=jpg&name=medium)

You do understand the difference between rich people paying a fair share of taxes to contribute to a functioning society, and a monthly subscription fee for an optional service because Muskrat doesn't have a working business plan, right?
She's an actress. I get the impression she's barely capable of understanding the difference between an apple and an orange.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on May 03, 2023, 02:17:02 AM
Quote from: https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2023-03-29/commentary-if-twitter-dies
Commentary: If Twitter finally dies, where do we find the smart people?

For a decade, Twitter was the premier watering hole for the chattering classes. But where does everybody go if it dries up?
Answer found, BlueSky:
(https://i.imgur.com/HwJQlUy.png)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on May 03, 2023, 02:38:21 AM
My Latest on Substack: Why BlueSky Will Defeat Twitter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r2X7VpY3Pw
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Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on May 03, 2023, 03:00:16 AM
She's an actress. I get the impression she's barely capable of understanding the difference between an apple and an orange.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGc3wrf5b6E
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on May 03, 2023, 03:38:05 AM
Great debate happening in the ancient replies of that:
Quote
Honeysucklebommie
10 years ago

She showed she has a decent IQ by thinking oranges and  vitamin C, and her first answer "to C / see the vitamin." .
If the little troll talked like real man instead of like a posing nine year old girl maybe she could understand him better when he comes back and blurts the real answer.
Quote
Dan Frederiksen
12 years ago

@Hexy69sCHILDREN because it doesn't say 'concentrate on the carton' on the carton. just says concentrate so under the assumption she would be vacuous enough to take that as a command and do it she would not be prompted to concentrate on the carton as was the premise of the joke. he confuses his semantics and the bottom line is that his material is lame..
she handled herself well there, she knew she was being set up and all he achieved was being an ass. Strutter was something, that... is lame
Quote
SAIDON92
13 years ago

not all the ornage juice say"concentrate" on the carton
this is a dumb joke
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: BIONIC on May 03, 2023, 03:52:35 AM
:hesright
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on May 03, 2023, 05:34:14 AM
She's an actress. I get the impression she's barely capable of understanding the difference between an apple and an orange.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGc3wrf5b6E
In her defence, English is clearly her second language.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on May 04, 2023, 08:15:25 AM
In today's episode of no fun allowed:

Click here: Twitter alt text meme that isn't funny for blind people

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-65473838

Quote
Connor, 29, says that the "click here" meme left him feeling "excluded on a very fundamental level".

Newsbeat contacted Twitter for a comment but it replied in the same way it does to all media, with a poo emoji.
:elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on May 04, 2023, 02:41:33 PM
In today's episode of no fun allowed:

Click here: Twitter alt text meme that isn't funny for blind people

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-65473838

Quote
Connor, 29, says that the "click here" meme left him feeling "excluded on a very fundamental level".

Newsbeat contacted Twitter for a comment but it replied in the same way it does to all media, with a poo emoji.
:elon
BRB, trying to convince my boss to change our media relations policy to "poo emoji"...
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on May 04, 2023, 10:33:55 PM
Quote from: https://www.theverge.com/23710406/mozilla-social-mastodon-fediverse-moderation
If you want to be a member of Mozilla.Social, Mozilla’s new Mastodon instance, you’re not allowed to harass other users. You’re also not allowed to use derogatory language about gender, sex, sexual orientation, race, age, ability, or any other “physical, social or cultural attributes or classifications.” You can’t spread misinformation and disinformation, either. Or impersonate someone. Some of these are normal policies, some are unusually heavy-handed, and they’re all hard to litigate. But Mozilla’s stance is pretty simple and extremely unusual in the social media universe: if it’s debatable, it’s gone.

“We’re not going to advertise that we’re some kind of neutral platform,” says Steve Teixeira, Mozilla’s chief product officer. He says too many platforms try to find a middle ground between, say, people who want to do others harm and people that don’t, when in reality, there is no middle ground at all. “You have to land on the side of people who don’t want to do harm to others.” By not pretending to be neutral and not claiming to be the free speech wing of anything, Mozilla hopes it can be much more active in making Mastodon a good place to be.

Mozilla’s content policies also make clear that the platform will err on the side of protecting people who need to be protected, who tend to be more vulnerable in most online spaces. Teixeira says he expects to take some heat for that stance, but he’s okay with it. That’s kind of the whole point. “This is what it means to stake out a point of view on content,” he says. Above all, he wants to make Mozilla.Social a place where people can go and have the experience they mean to have. “And I don’t mean to go on there and be harassed, or receive death threats, or whatever,” he says. “We believe that it’s really important that people can go online and, like, engage and share cat pictures or yuk it up with my friends.”

But also, Mastodon is centralizing:
Quote from: https://www.theverge.com/2023/5/1/23707019/mastodon-account-creation-twitter-alternative
Mastodon is making it easier for newcomers to create an account on the platform. On Monday, the decentralized network announced that it will start directing new users to create an account on mastodon.social instead of prompting them to choose from one of the thousands of other servers on the platform.

This update doesn’t mean that Mastodon’s taking away the ability for new users to sign up for an account in a specific community, though. It will simply present two separate options on its signup page: “Join mastodon.social” or “Pick my own server.”
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on May 09, 2023, 05:03:33 PM
https://twitter.com/jules_su/status/1656005035631820804
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on May 09, 2023, 05:43:32 PM
Wait, what?:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/tucker-carlson-new-fox-news-show-twitter-1235483631/
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on May 09, 2023, 06:26:04 PM
Elon wants to turn Twitter into a content platform. I can see others jump ship too depending on how succesful Tucker is.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on May 09, 2023, 06:46:42 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/may/09/tucker-carlson-fox-news-twitter-show

Quote
Carlson’s pivot to Twitter comes after the site has become more welcoming to mostly-conservative accounts previously banned for spreading hate speech and disinformation under Elon Musk’s new direction. The billionaire took over the site in October 2022 and promptly allowed previously banished accounts to return, including that of Donald Trump.

Carlson did not make any mention of Musk in his video.

Twitter responded to a request for comment with a poop emoji.

 :elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Boredfrom on May 09, 2023, 08:25:24 PM
Elon wants to turn Twitter into a content platform. I can see others jump ship too depending on how succesful Tucker is.

But Tucker kills most mainstream ad revenue.

https://www.marketplace.org/2023/04/26/with-tucker-carlson-out-are-fox-news-advertisers-back-in/amp/

Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on May 09, 2023, 09:31:49 PM
140 characters -> 280 characters -> long tweets -> hour long tv programs.

We're going in the wrong direction guys.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
The ideal is a platform of nothing but likes.
[close]
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on May 09, 2023, 10:19:58 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
The ideal is a platform of nothing but likes.
[close]

reminds me of how reddit/r/drama, in the wake of intense admin scrutiny and mandates of verboten topics and words, set the rule that all communication on the board would have to be conducted via emoji (https://i.imgur.com/l8Y1yR9.png)  :doggy

(this was shortly before giving up completely and making the completely degenerate and unusable rdrama website)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on May 11, 2023, 03:49:24 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1656747082571722753 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1656747082571722753)

:elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on May 11, 2023, 04:04:28 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1656747082571722753 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1656747082571722753)

:elon

https://twitter.com/remaxbrianwilks/status/1656748466008387584

Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on May 11, 2023, 08:58:30 PM
A female CEO?!? ELON SELLING OUT TO THE WOKE IN UNDER A YEAR! :maf :maf :maf
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on May 11, 2023, 10:01:17 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fv45fiQWAAArP7b?format=png&name=small)

 :sicko
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on May 11, 2023, 10:26:26 PM
Lots of whiplash going around with the Twitter experts:
https://twitter.com/bkabak/status/1656754437614960640
https://twitter.com/minimaxir/status/1656754379205255169
https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1656807810246537216

Also, it's all a plot btw:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fv4p98vWAAAlS_P?format=png&name=small)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on May 12, 2023, 03:10:08 AM
A female CEO?!? ELON SELLING OUT TO THE WOKE IN UNDER A YEAR! :maf :maf :maf
A female WEF chair from NBC
https://twitter.com/LPMisesCaucus/status/1656820677494689794 (https://twitter.com/LPMisesCaucus/status/1656820677494689794)

But also a Trump ally
https://twitter.com/aakashg0/status/1656828110870917120 (https://twitter.com/aakashg0/status/1656828110870917120)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on May 12, 2023, 12:10:50 PM
Redhats fleeing Twitter in droves

Top trending is "RIP twitter"

https://twitter.com/search?q=%22RIP%20Twitter%22&src=trend_click&vertical=trends
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on May 12, 2023, 01:43:22 PM
https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1657070606687297536
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on May 12, 2023, 06:02:14 PM
twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1657070606687297536
Maybe don't click through to see a "cat in a blender" if you don't want to see it?

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/235/535/ca1.png)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on May 12, 2023, 06:13:27 PM
twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1657070606687297536
Maybe don't click through to see a "cat in a blender" if you don't want to see it?

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/235/535/ca1.png)

Benjamin, the discussion is about how 11 year old children are being exposed to it
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Uncle on May 12, 2023, 06:44:35 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/g4Q4B7P.png)

great, now 11 year olds are gonna be exposed to Slither  :hmph
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on May 12, 2023, 06:47:58 PM
Benjamin, the discussion is about how 11 year old children are being exposed to it
Why are you showing children Twitter searches and clicking immediate suggestions?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on May 13, 2023, 01:24:59 AM
https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1657056676963287046
https://twitter.com/dancow/status/1657117576453935111
https://twitter.com/HistoryBoomer/status/1657131311725723649

spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://twitter.com/damintoell/status/1657140215268491265
[close]
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Potato on May 13, 2023, 03:44:47 AM
Lol, Twatter.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on May 13, 2023, 05:04:52 AM
Next quarterly is coming up, and CT on the brink. He's gotta play it cool between the crazies and the people with money
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: who is ted danson? on May 13, 2023, 05:07:39 AM
can't believe those clowns started paying $8 simply because its "not woke"  :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on May 13, 2023, 05:12:56 AM
can't believe those clowns started paying $8 simply because its "not woke"  :lol


i feel the same way about bork offering me up $20 monthly for moblin likes now.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on May 13, 2023, 05:37:22 AM
Elon just needed a MILF the business people and politicians know so they start posting and advertising again. That's where the real money is. :trumps

I don't think Twitter is going to hire FBI and CIA agents again to help rig elections but who knows.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 13, 2023, 06:15:33 AM
can't believe those clowns started paying $8 simply because its "not woke"  :lol

Have you been living under a rock these last 7 years  :doge
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on May 13, 2023, 06:23:34 AM
its only been 5 months.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on May 14, 2023, 11:32:22 AM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1657422401754259461

https://twitter.com/williamlegate/status/1657512000962936835

 :elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on May 14, 2023, 01:32:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aw4lDGja6c
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on May 14, 2023, 05:29:10 PM
Elon saw everybody excited about BlueSky so now he's trying to bully Yglesias too.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on May 23, 2023, 05:45:34 PM
https://twitter.com/alx/status/1661112768299237376 (https://twitter.com/alx/status/1661112768299237376)

is he trying to grow a beard?  :doge  :dead
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on May 23, 2023, 09:14:50 PM
https://twitter.com/TheAtlantic/status/1661113356277653507

Are they saying it hasn't always been? :social
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on May 23, 2023, 11:06:48 PM
https://twitter.com/mobydickenergy/status/1642716768845037568
https://twitter.com/mobydickenergy/status/1660879756198391810
https://twitter.com/mobydickenergy/status/1661191625933049856

Pinned tweet on her old account:
https://twitter.com/swordsjew/status/1592379414419238913
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on May 24, 2023, 01:27:20 PM
https://twitter.com/TheAtlantic/status/1661113356277653507

Are they saying it hasn't always been? :social

The image they are using appears to be showing that twitter and mastodon are the same thing  ???
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: HaughtyFrank on May 24, 2023, 08:12:19 PM
https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1661503979791216640

 :elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on May 25, 2023, 03:08:51 AM
https://twitter.com/chetfaliszek/status/1661514837627912193
https://twitter.com/chetfaliszek/status/1661514847568396289
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: team filler on May 25, 2023, 05:12:47 AM
guy could always stop using twitter. I shut down my account for months at a time. I opened it up and almost immediately regretted it. it's not that hard, maybe I'll go back for football season
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Pissy F Benny on May 25, 2023, 07:39:00 AM
Don't get as much attention and lower numbers on the alternatives though.

Ifind it funny tbh, idiots locking themselves into a sort of personal hell they refuse to leave because of their narcissism.

Obvs some people are full of shit and like pretending to be a Vic too.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on May 25, 2023, 10:16:17 AM

Ifind it funny tbh, idiots locking themselves into a sort of personal hell they refuse to leave because of their narcissism.



Wait I'm confused, are we still talking about Twitter or Shostacord?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: team filler on May 25, 2023, 04:00:19 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: team filler on May 25, 2023, 04:11:34 PM
 :kermit
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on May 26, 2023, 07:09:17 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1662193436684951556 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1662193436684951556)

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1662190997072166941 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1662190997072166941)

If you had Elon simping for DeSoy on your 2023 bingo card you must be John Titor.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: jorma on May 27, 2023, 06:38:04 AM
maybe he just wants to be seen as the kingmaker and that would never happen if he backed biden or trump?
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on May 27, 2023, 11:06:24 AM
maybe he just wants to be seen as the kingmaker and that would never happen if he backed biden or trump?
there's always a grift  :lol

Quote
Florida Gov. DeSantis signed into law a spaceflight bill that protects companies such as SpaceX and Blue Origin from legal liability if crewmembers or passengers are injured or killed during missions.

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1662142060705595411 (https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1662142060705595411)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on May 27, 2023, 09:18:39 PM
I'm skeptical that Elon's seeming endorsement is the extraction price for a minor bill DeSantis would have signed anyway.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: team filler on May 27, 2023, 11:02:37 PM
 :thinking
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on May 30, 2023, 03:33:21 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxZimr7WwAEC-SP?format=jpg)
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: team filler on May 30, 2023, 03:48:53 PM
she only likes white colonizer dick working for the soy i a :kermit
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on June 21, 2023, 02:33:37 AM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1671370284102819841

 :elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: chronovore on June 21, 2023, 07:35:02 PM
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1671370284102819841

 :elon

Yeah, this is blowing up.

He’s a horrid little hypocrite.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: benjipwns on June 22, 2023, 12:50:40 AM
I think everyone losing their shit is misreading that tweet as a single statement in their rush to be outraged at every utterance by a somewhat dumb autistic man. As it says in the tweet, saying slurs doesn't get you a ban, "repeated, targeted" harassment does. I'm pretty sure the old "say slur in any context, get banned automatically" policy is one Elon explicitly changed and everyone lost their shit about before they left Twitter forever.
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: team filler on June 22, 2023, 12:51:41 AM
 :hesright
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Kurt Russell on June 22, 2023, 10:38:38 AM
 :drudge :drudge :drudgeElon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg agree to hold cage fight :drudge :drudge :drudge

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-65981876

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1671702433523802113

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1671705216918474752

Quote
The clash of the tech industry titans has shifted from the business world to martial arts – as Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg appear to have agreed to take each other on in a cage fight.

The Twitter and Facebook owners have traded barbs in recent weeks after it emerged that Mr Zuckerberg was planning to launch a competitor to the social media platform Mr Musk bought last year. But until Wednesday their sparring was purely verbal, as Mr Musk responded to a Twitter post about Mr Zuckerberg’s “Twitter rival” by saying “I’m sure Earth can’t wait to be exclusively under Zuck’s thumb”.

When another user commented that Mr Zuckerberg “does Jiu Jitsu now”, Mr Musk replied:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1671364992665264131

Mr Zuckerberg quickly replied with a screenshot on Instagram, appearing to throw down the gauntlet with the caption: “Send me location.” Mr Musk then responded by suggesting the “Vegas Octagon” as a potential venue, referring to the main fighting arena of the Ultimate Fighting Championship in Las Vegas, Nevada.

In an apparent confirmation that the possible fight is serious, a Meta spokesman said: “The story speaks for itself.”


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/06/22/zuckerberg-musk-cage-match-location-vegas-meta-twitter/

 :popcorn

:elon
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on June 22, 2023, 01:34:20 PM
letthemfight.gif
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on July 17, 2023, 02:08:24 PM
Carried has fallen

https://twitter.com/steinkobbe/status/1680970214333095936
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on July 19, 2023, 04:15:45 PM
https://twitter.com/revhowardarson/status/1681698682293592064

https://twitter.com/GravitysRa1nbow/status/1681720896212353026

https://twitter.com/arne__ness/status/1681660954696663040

https://twitter.com/PrairieYoder/status/1681748181040742402

https://twitter.com/AmalSamaha5/status/1681612541208956928

https://twitter.com/mangosocialism/status/1681756206942044160
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: james on July 24, 2023, 10:28:30 AM
It's over.

Twitter is dead.

It is now called ten
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Cauliflower Of Love on July 24, 2023, 02:41:01 PM
Should add a "the" just because you know...
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: Nintex on July 24, 2023, 07:05:36 PM
X
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: bork on July 24, 2023, 08:54:44 PM
https://youtu.be/fGx6K90TmCI
Title: Re: Muskrat to Buy Twitter. Time to Abandon it.
Post by: MMaRsu on July 26, 2023, 03:57:02 AM
https://youtu.be/fGx6K90TmCI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJxk1leG1wY
Title: Re: Elon Bought Twitter- X GON GIVE IT TO YA
Post by: bork on August 19, 2023, 08:38:24 PM
https://twitter.com/Graslu00/status/1692915063395348901
Title: Re: Elon Bought Twitter- X GON GIVE IT TO YA
Post by: D3RANG3D on November 29, 2023, 08:43:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlsHjNHCYLo
Title: Re: Elon Bought Twitter- X GON GIVE IT TO YA
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 30, 2023, 08:53:23 AM
lil bro is cooked
Title: Re: Elon Bought Twitter- X GON GIVE IT TO YA
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 30, 2023, 09:52:25 AM
Drugs? Drugs.

He wants to turn twitter into a financial service company, which wouldn't need advertising. The problem is that he's marketing exclusively to people who don't need another financial service. Regardless of right wing fears about banking, they have no real issue using banks. Hard to see him getting to his end goal before this shit blows up or investors start rebelling.
Title: Re: Elon Bought Twitter- X GON GIVE IT TO YA
Post by: team filler on November 30, 2023, 09:21:23 PM
why should I care or not if X is making money. if elon can tell advertisers to fuck themselves it only makes the experience better. now the platform won't have to cater to them, or maybe just less than they had to before.


are people really worried about the financial stability of a social media platform?  :doge


"oh no, elon ruined X!"  :cry

for who exactly? garbage advertisers who like forcing their worldview on everyone? good!