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« Reply #960 on: November 07, 2022, 09:31:35 PM »
The ideal state is not installing native third-party apps and using web apps to do everything.

My trust in apps/SaaS co's/etc. is impossible to come by these days.

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« Reply #961 on: November 07, 2022, 09:33:55 PM »
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Twitter employees tried to sell Musk and Sacks on the idea of asking business accounts to pay for extra features, since many of them use Twitter to reach large audiences. But they were dismissed in favor of offering wide-scale verification first, I’m told.

https://www.platformer.news/p/musk-discusses-putting-all-of-twitter
This was actually one of the things I figured but was surprised so many suddenly declared experts weren't talking about. This makes some sense, why give companies the ability to just pay $8 a month when you can strike specific deals with them? I'm not sure this isn't the "best" way to do it for organizations because you could let charities and advocacy organizations in for free and then negotiate with businesses. (I would include the Republican and Democratic Parties in the latter. :teehee)

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« Reply #962 on: November 07, 2022, 09:45:00 PM »
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Twitter employees tried to sell Musk and Sacks on the idea of asking business accounts to pay for extra features, since many of them use Twitter to reach large audiences. But they were dismissed in favor of offering wide-scale verification first, I’m told.

https://www.platformer.news/p/musk-discusses-putting-all-of-twitter
This was actually one of the things I figured but was surprised so many suddenly declared experts weren't talking about. This makes some sense, why give companies the ability to just pay $8 a month when you can strike specific deals with them? I'm not sure this isn't the "best" way to do it for organizations because you could let charities and advocacy organizations in for free and then negotiate with businesses. (I would include the Republican and Democratic Parties in the latter. :teehee)

They could go the constant contact/mailchimp route and charge by number of subscribers/followers.

That being said it doesnt work for individuals. Individual "content creators" spend all day tweeting and dont get revenue, which doesnt make sense. IE, Nate Silver is an imbecile, but he certainly generates traffic for Twitter. Charging him means he moves to another platform. Giving him an ad cut (like youtube, tiktok etc) means he is encouraged to post even more content on Twitter.

So how do you draw the line between content creator that gets a cut, and corporate account that has to pay?

For something like Toyota, thats obvious, but what about the NYT?
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« Reply #963 on: November 07, 2022, 09:55:54 PM »
I figured the NYT was already paying for various things since some of their links embed differently.

It would be funny though if like the NYT paid some big amount to Twitter for whatever and then users could post "fact checks" on all their tweets. Would they delete them like the White House did? Demand this not be allowed as part of their deal?



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« Reply #966 on: November 08, 2022, 12:20:33 AM »
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The company rolled out a new version of the app on Saturday with release notes that said the new Blue was now available. (The copy, written by Calacanis, was widely derided for sounding like a phishing email.) The problem is that Blue was not available, and so those who did subscribe found that they had merely gotten access to the current version of Blue.

Then, after a debate about the potential effects of unleashing thousands of new verified accounts onto the platforms in the middle of the US midterm elections, the company postponed the launch.

But the new Blue likely faces larger problems. The existing version only had a little more than 100,000 active subscribers, Platformer has learned. The new version will be 37.5 percent more expensive, and its value seems murky for most regular users of the platform. It’s unclear how the company will persuade enough people to subscribe to justify the effort.

Twitter employees tried to sell Musk and Sacks on the idea of asking business accounts to pay for extra features, since many of them use Twitter to reach large audiences. But they were dismissed in favor of offering wide-scale verification first, I’m told.

Other employees have warned about a secondary feature of the new Blue that Musk added at the last minute: reducing ad load in the Twitter app by half. Estimates showed that Twitter will lose about $6 in ad revenue per user in the United States by making that change, sources said. Factoring in Apple and Google’s share of the $8 monthly subscription, Twitter would likely lose money on Blue if the ad-light plan is enacted.

"The business fundamentals are just not there,” said one former employee who worked on the plans.

https://www.platformer.news/p/musk-discusses-putting-all-of-twitter

Absolutely zero planning went into this

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Amazing level of ineptitude.
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« Reply #967 on: November 08, 2022, 12:53:24 AM »
Here are two articles about Mastodon you should read if you would like to understand what it is.
It's really quite amazing what was achieved considering how little manpower and money they have.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mastodon-twitter-alternative_n_63689d46e4b0eb51ab1180bc
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/topstories/mastodon-what-is-the-social-network-hailed-as-a-twitter-alternative/ar-AA13QljF

The idea behind it is great, a global communication utility not owned by a single individual or corporation.

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Fast growth has led to overload and server glitches. Seeing economist Paul Krugman struggling to get his Mastodon account running, Musk on Monday mocked the upstart network.

"If you don't like Twitter any more there is awesome site called Masterbatedone," he wrote in a swiftly deleted tweet
above a screenshot of Krugman's misfired toots.

Rochko, whose Mastodon foundation runs on a shoestring crowdfunded budget topped up with a modest grant from the European Commission, has found a particularly receptive audience among privacy-conscious European regulators.

Germany's data protection commissioner Ulrich Kelber is waging a campaign to get government bodies to close their Facebook pages, since, he says, there is no way of hosting a page there that conforms to European privacy laws.

Authorities should move to the federal government's own Mastodon instance, he says. The European Commission also maintains a server for European Union bodies to toot from.

"No exclusive information should be sent over a legally questionable platform," Kelber said earlier this year.
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« Reply #968 on: November 08, 2022, 01:29:30 AM »
The idea behind it is great, a global communication utility not owned by a single individual or corporation.
Yeah, but that's not what the people fleeing Twitter for it want.

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« Reply #969 on: November 08, 2022, 06:35:44 AM »
yeah, again: the fediverse enabled truth social

you can personally block speech you don't want to see but its inherent design means anyone can spin up a server and seethe and rage and plot government overthrow whether you allow yourself to see them or not

on twitter, blocking someone you don't like has never been enough, you want them banned and gone forever, but the best you can do on the fediverse is block them or their node
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« Reply #970 on: November 08, 2022, 06:47:31 AM »
on twitter, blocking someone you don't like has never been enough, you want them banned and gone forever, but the best you can do on the fediverse is block them or their node

Essentially, the fediverse is the ultimate echo chamber. The end-game will be tons and tons of splintered and insular communities all blocking the bad thoughts, only hearing the things they want to hear, smelling their own farts and never being challenged.

Sounds oddly familar.
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« Reply #971 on: November 08, 2022, 06:49:50 AM »
They're already complaining that there's no way to do blocklists of every possible "Nazi" node like they all used on Twitter. Any "Nazi" can just spin up a new node (or change the old one) and instantly have access to everything again since nobody knows it's a "Nazi" node yet. Some of the "Twitter refugees" have been proposing that mastodon.social be cut off from the fediverse entirely so it operates like Twitter.

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« Reply #972 on: November 08, 2022, 08:53:34 AM »




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« Reply #973 on: November 08, 2022, 09:03:37 AM »
https://twitter.com/Em_alllam/status/1589663034686902272

...surely this is a less environmentally friendly solution than Twitter?
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« Reply #974 on: November 08, 2022, 09:26:08 AM »
It's amazing how many people on Twitter seem to believe Elon is somehow sitting there personally reading the millions of tweets about him. Especially their tweets about him. And has been doing this 24/7 since Friday.

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« Reply #975 on: November 08, 2022, 10:26:49 AM »
I wouldn't be surprised if he spent most of his time vanity searching :elon
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« Reply #976 on: November 08, 2022, 11:19:15 AM »
If Mastodon is so decentralized, how do they handle illegal content? Overall this ironically sounds more like a libertarian's dream, not exactly what the Twitter liberals would want to escape to.

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« Reply #977 on: November 08, 2022, 11:22:16 AM »
same as anything else, if you spin up a personal server and put up a website with illegal foot pics then you are in trouble

if you run a server that hosts a message board with illegal foot pics I guess section 230 shields you but you have to comply with government requests to hand over the identifying info of whoever is posting AOC's foot pics
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« Reply #978 on: November 08, 2022, 11:26:26 AM »
#FreeKathy
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« Reply #979 on: November 08, 2022, 11:42:06 AM »
If Mastodon is so decentralized, how do they handle illegal content? Overall this ironically sounds more like a libertarian's dream, not exactly what the Twitter liberals would want to escape to.

https://twitter.com/tracewoodgrains/status/1589735961893556224


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« Reply #980 on: November 08, 2022, 12:09:27 PM »
Why not simply migrate everyone to Resetera dot com?
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« Reply #981 on: November 08, 2022, 12:22:33 PM »
If Mastodon is so decentralized, how do they handle illegal content? Overall this ironically sounds more like a libertarian's dream, not exactly what the Twitter liberals would want to escape to.

for the child porn obvs :jared
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« Reply #982 on: November 08, 2022, 12:23:27 PM »
hopefully the ello lads have been biding their time cos now is the moment to strike :rash
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« Reply #983 on: November 08, 2022, 12:27:10 PM »
If Mastodon is so decentralized, how do they handle illegal content? Overall this ironically sounds more like a libertarian's dream, not exactly what the Twitter liberals would want to escape to.

for the child porn obvs :jared

They already have the shost discord for that
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« Reply #984 on: November 08, 2022, 12:52:37 PM »
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« Reply #985 on: November 08, 2022, 03:07:39 PM »
TWITTER JUST FUCKING DIE ALREADY




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« Reply #986 on: November 08, 2022, 03:47:14 PM »
:dead Andy
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« Reply #987 on: November 08, 2022, 04:08:09 PM »

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« Reply #988 on: November 08, 2022, 04:33:00 PM »
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« Reply #989 on: November 08, 2022, 05:32:20 PM »
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« Reply #990 on: November 08, 2022, 07:50:48 PM »
And if we offer Nintex’s soul? It will finally die?

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« Reply #992 on: November 08, 2022, 11:36:33 PM »




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« Reply #993 on: November 09, 2022, 04:59:33 AM »
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Does he feel less guilty when the report goes to an underpaid worker in the Philippines?

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« Reply #994 on: November 09, 2022, 05:40:53 AM »
musk selling more tesla stock to fund twitter means one of two things.

1: it's a dumpster fire and he's willing to stake money from tesla

2: tesla is such widely profitably right now that selling 3 billion to fund a dumpster fire doesn't matter.

Or both.

There was just a repot that tesla is making 8x profit per vehicle compared to toyotas.

so yeah.

no wonder he's fucking that chicken.

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« Reply #995 on: November 09, 2022, 09:38:53 AM »
The blue ticks are now getting an "official" badge under their names

wtf why can't I buy this for $8 a month
 
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« Reply #996 on: November 09, 2022, 10:03:09 AM »
muskrat doesn't care about the little man :hmph
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« Reply #997 on: November 09, 2022, 10:16:44 AM »
hey remember how "omg musk is getting twitter and making all these changes RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF ELECTIONS IMAGINE THE FUCKERY"

did literally anything happen

or did everyone make all the commentary they normally would, and tweets got shared at the normal rate dunking on all sorts of candidates

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« Reply #998 on: November 09, 2022, 10:47:33 AM »
The blue ticks are now getting an "official" badge under their names

wtf why can't I buy this for $8 a month

Lol it looks horrible
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« Reply #999 on: November 09, 2022, 11:37:40 AM »
So a two caste system becomes a three-caste system.

Progress!

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« Reply #1000 on: November 09, 2022, 11:42:22 AM »
Lets see how well Musk does on his knees begging for money

https://twitter.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1590374956004970496
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« Reply #1001 on: November 09, 2022, 11:47:44 AM »
The blue ticks are now getting an "official" badge under their names

wtf why can't I buy this for $8 a month

Lol it looks horrible

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1590383366213611522

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« Reply #1003 on: November 09, 2022, 01:33:32 PM »
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« Reply #1004 on: November 09, 2022, 03:39:13 PM »
EL*N M*SK

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« Reply #1005 on: November 09, 2022, 05:56:45 PM »
So a two caste system becomes a three-caste system.

Progress!
This was always my complaint, two castes is just so disgustingly American. The lower Blue Checks thinking they were equal with all Blue Checks is unacceptable.

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« Reply #1007 on: November 09, 2022, 07:25:18 PM »




$16 :money
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« Reply #1008 on: November 09, 2022, 07:41:15 PM »
All of this just to stick it to the small "blue checkmark elite club"  :lol

Musk got so caught up in this meta game that he forgot the actual purpose of the verified checkmark.

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« Reply #1009 on: November 09, 2022, 07:45:55 PM »
the first one doesn't seem to be real since https://twitter.com/Nintendoofus isn't even verified, and the second one is already banned

edit: nevermind the first one was actually https://twitter.com/nlntendoofus and is also already banned
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« Reply #1010 on: November 09, 2022, 07:45:59 PM »
Just look at your Twitter feed. No one is leaving, everyone is buying these $8 checkmarks :money

And Team Trump got blown the fuck out so no calls to let the circus back on Twitter either  :doge
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« Reply #1011 on: November 09, 2022, 08:07:06 PM »
Maybe Blue Checks who want it to mean something shouldn't platform obscure newly created accounts that paid for a Blue Check just to do dumb stuff? I thought we were supposed to be using our personal platforms responsibly since we're all personally responsible for anything we could be accused of?

Maybe just report them for impersonation instead of scream about them to your followers?

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« Reply #1012 on: November 09, 2022, 08:10:19 PM »
I'm not sure if it would be smarter to block the associated method of payment so they can't do more fuckery, or to allow it so you can harvest $8 per joke
 :money

I suppose the main issue will be signing up for a new account and needing a new phone number to burn
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« Reply #1014 on: November 09, 2022, 11:42:49 PM »
I don't understand what that screenshot is supposed to show? Are those not the official accounts of those two people?

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« Reply #1015 on: November 09, 2022, 11:55:18 PM »
So many Blue Checks crying at all the accounts they've hated for years that have bought Blue Checks, taking screenshots of them and saying THIS IS UNFAIR, THEY JUST PAID, I EARNED MINE!

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« Reply #1016 on: November 10, 2022, 12:27:36 AM »
Most (or even all?) of us have an urge to feel superior (stronger in some, weaker in others). It's one of humanity's more unfortunate traits and the root cause of so many problems.
The less you allow yourself to be influenced by this, the better.
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« Reply #1017 on: November 10, 2022, 12:38:02 AM »
That's why it's always important to keep in mind that the one thing you're superior at is being worse than everyone else. :rollsafe

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« Reply #1019 on: November 10, 2022, 07:02:59 AM »
Can’t believe it actually ended up being pay 2 win without any verification needed  :lol
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