Author Topic: The NBA thread (Read 1519797 times)

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #8940 on:** March 15, 2013, 07:55:19 PM »

How are Lakers still getting so much respeck from the refs?

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #8941 on:** March 15, 2013, 09:13:47 PM »

Gotta give the Lakers some props for how hard they're playing

Seems like they wanna prove that they don't need no Mamba

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #8942 on:** March 15, 2013, 09:37:23 PM »

Lakers-Pacers shows that having a closer is even more overrated than in baseball?

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #8943 on:** March 15, 2013, 10:59:06 PM »

the heat are kinda getting boring now

benjipwns · « **Reply #8944 on:** March 15, 2013, 11:00:37 PM »

http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/9056725/boston-celtics-not-impressed-miami-heat-lengthy-streak

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #8945 on:** March 15, 2013, 11:15:58 PM »

can't wait for that game

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #8946 on:** March 16, 2013, 11:03:53 PM »

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #8947 on:** March 17, 2013, 02:50:04 PM »

heat choking away this game

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #8948 on:** March 17, 2013, 03:52:51 PM »

Game kinda shows how rebounding statistics are misleading in the NBA.

That game wasn't close outside of the late stretch by the raptors but the heat got outrebounded 51 to 26.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #8949 on:** March 17, 2013, 09:43:37 PM »

God damn, Durant.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #8950 on:** March 17, 2013, 09:48:22 PM »

Mike James is worse than Jay Cutler.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #8951 on:** March 17, 2013, 09:53:51 PM »

Mike James is worse than two Jay Cutlers.

Did the Mavs fire all their advanced stats guys?

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #8952 on:** March 18, 2013, 08:18:10 PM »

I'd say this is Miami's last huge test of the season other than Spurs. If Miami gets through Boston tonight, I don't see the streak ending for a while...

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #8953 on:** March 18, 2013, 08:47:23 PM »

It doesn't look good for the streak tonight. Boston kicking ass so far.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #8954 on:** March 18, 2013, 09:24:44 PM »

good game so far

that Lebron dunk would have felt much nastier if not for Deandre not too long ago

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #8955 on:** March 18, 2013, 10:15:43 PM »

yeah miami ain't winning this one

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #8956 on:** March 18, 2013, 10:17:50 PM »

jeff green with nigh 50

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #8957 on:** March 18, 2013, 10:20:59 PM »

dagger

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #8958 on:** March 18, 2013, 10:33:25 PM »

Steve Contra · « **Reply #8959 on:** March 18, 2013, 10:37:56 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on March 18, 2013, 10:33:25 PM

Robo · « **Reply #8960 on:** March 18, 2013, 11:06:32 PM »

JaVale > LeBron + DeAndre

also the superior capitalization.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #8961 on:** March 18, 2013, 11:07:20 PM »

amazing game, the Heat earned that one

Mandark · « **Reply #8962 on:** March 18, 2013, 11:21:00 PM »

LeBron with 29 FGA, 12 assists, and only 6 FTA. Guess all that blatant David Stern star favoritism didn't demean this performance, at least.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #8963 on:** March 18, 2013, 11:46:28 PM »

Of course a great fucking game and I was busy playing Battlefield.

I was just checking the scores on espn every so often.

I'll have to try to dvr the replay.

Beezy · « **Reply #8964 on:** March 18, 2013, 11:50:26 PM »

McGee's man didn't kiss the paint. Deandre wins.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #8965 on:** March 19, 2013, 12:12:52 AM »

If Jeff Green could be just HALF that good every night, the Celtics would be in fine shape but alas

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #8966 on:** March 19, 2013, 12:18:49 AM »

reminder to self - find clip of Marc Gasol no-looking that lob to Tony Allen

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #8967 on:** March 19, 2013, 12:58:37 AM »

I think Boston could absolutely beat the Pacers in a 7 game series, based on what I've seen from them the last few weeks. Getting Garnett healthier would make me side with them, honestly.

Christ, if the Bulls keep shitting themselves, the Celtics will absolutely beat the Knicks in the playoffs.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #8968 on:** March 19, 2013, 01:25:07 AM »

eh, Doc blatantly rested KG tonight. Boston's record with Bradley is about 22-12 I think, not top-tier but a huge improvement. Certainly they can beat the Knicks with Bradley (#1 on the ball defender in the NBA, officially...) hounding Felton full-time.

Beezy · « **Reply #8969 on:** March 19, 2013, 04:01:19 AM »

Fuck the Celtics and their dirty ass team leader.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #8970 on:** March 19, 2013, 04:28:19 AM »

Beezy · « **Reply #8971 on:** March 19, 2013, 04:57:42 AM »

I meant bitch ass Paul Pierce, but fuck KG too.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #8972 on:** March 19, 2013, 05:27:30 AM »

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #8973 on:** March 19, 2013, 01:32:36 PM »

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #8974 on:** March 19, 2013, 01:35:27 PM »

This streak is starting to annoy me. How can I bitch and moan about every little thing with the Heat if they keep on winning like this.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #8975 on:** March 19, 2013, 01:40:28 PM »

The beard is awesome.
Dirk's PER is rising. He has a chance to be over 20 for the 13th season in a row.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #8976 on:** March 19, 2013, 01:41:22 PM »

Like a proud German Lion.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #8977 on:** March 19, 2013, 09:55:07 PM »

well i was depressed about Jeff Green's career game being wasted until you posted that

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #8978 on:** March 19, 2013, 10:36:26 PM »

Man the nuggets are fucking hot. 13 in a row. Beating OKC on the Road. They are only a half game out of 3rd place in the conference. Oh Carmelo.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #8979 on:** March 19, 2013, 11:00:20 PM »

This is hot stuff. We've been teased with a little bit of what Sports Vu can do but here is the real deal. (plus more LeBron worship o/c)

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9068903/the-toronto-raptors-sportvu-cameras-nba-analytical-revolution

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #8980 on:** March 20, 2013, 09:11:24 PM »

Steak over. Heat down by 27.

Mandark · « **Reply #8981 on:** March 20, 2013, 09:17:06 PM »

Who had the Cavs without Kyrie Irving in the pool? Sheesh.

edit: And it's cut to single digits before the end of the 3rd. Heeeeeeeeere we go...

Beezy · « **Reply #8982 on:** March 20, 2013, 09:28:24 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on March 20, 2013, 09:11:24 PM

Steak over. Heat down by 27.

Mandark · « **Reply #8983 on:** March 20, 2013, 09:36:36 PM »

Tie game why not.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #8984 on:** March 20, 2013, 09:40:34 PM »

Heat with the lead

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #8985 on:** March 20, 2013, 09:47:11 PM »

Quote from: Beezy on March 20, 2013, 09:28:24 PM

Quote from: Stoney Mason on March 20, 2013, 09:11:24 PM
Steak over. Heat down by 27.

I was talking about my dinner not this game!

My steak was undercooked!!!

Go Heat!

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #8986 on:** March 20, 2013, 11:50:52 PM »

Quote

This season, the Cavaliers are now 3 and 3 in games they led by at least 20 points. The rest of the league is 332-11. ** Pending results of late games (WSH/PHX, PHI/LAC) **

The Heat scored 145.7 points per 100 possessions in the second half Wednesday, their third-highest offensive efficiency in any half this season. Miami grabbed 50.0 percent of its missed shots in the second half and scored 16 of its 19 second-chance points after halftime against the Cavaliers.

Entering tonight, in the last 15 seasons, teams trailing by 27 or more in the second half were 5 and 2,013, a win percentage of .002 (two tenths of one percent). This type of comeback had happened essentially once in every 404 games that the opportunity came about in the last 15 seasons. The Heat, by the way, were 0-55 in those situations over the last 15 seasons. FYI, the comebacks:

NEXT LEVEL: LeBron James scored 14 fourth-quarter points and assisted on another 8 points, accounting for 22 of the Heat's 30 fourth quarter points. No player has accounted for a higher percentage of his team's fourth-quarter offense this season. Percentage of team offense = (Pts scored + team pts off assists)/total team points

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #8987 on:** March 20, 2013, 11:56:13 PM »

So who are seen as the two or three leading MVP candidates this season? Seems like LeBron is having a similar if not better season than last year.

Mandark · « **Reply #8988 on:** March 21, 2013, 12:01:53 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on March 20, 2013, 11:56:13 PM

So who are seen as the two or three leading MVP candidates this season? Seems like LeBron is having a similar if not better season than last year.

Seriously, everyone should just skip to arguing about the other 4 first-team All NBA spots this year.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #8989 on:** March 21, 2013, 12:03:22 AM »

Lebron has it locked up. There was a desire to give it to Durant but you can't after the streak and Lebron's earlier personal streak.

Durant will be the runner-up.

After that some mix of Chris Paul, Tony Parker, and maybe Carmelo although the knicks falling off is dropping Carmelo bad.

Beezy · « **Reply #8990 on:** March 21, 2013, 12:08:37 AM »

Parker is the best PG this season imo.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #8991 on:** March 21, 2013, 12:20:31 AM »

Kobe will get more votes than Parker and Carmelo for sure

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/5-on-5-130314/nba-experts-take-their-picks-league-superstars

Better 2012-13 season: James Harden or Kobe Bryant?

Foster: Kobe Bryant. Saying this season has been "vintage Kobe" is almost demeaning. Kobe has been more efficient than ever, and his assist percentage this year is a career best. It says a lot about Harden that he's in this conversation, but this has been an all-time season from an all-time great.

Gutierrez: Kobe Bryant. This one is a landslide. Bryant has an edge in all the obvious numbers. And when you consider he's older and has been dealing with coaching changes and more significant injuries, it makes you appreciate what Bryant is doing so much more. Harden has learned to be a superstar very quickly, but Bryant is still better at it.

Haubner: Kobe Bryant. Two remarkably similar players this season: Both have been high-minutes, heavy-offense, little-defense shooting guards for fringe playoff teams in the West, with very close PERs and nearly identical clutch numbers. Kobe gets it by a chin just because L.A.'s offense has collapsed when he has been out. MJ is the only guard with a higher PER at age 34-plus.

Strauss: Kobe Bryant, but only because this Lakers playoff quest has bizarrely turned him into something of a folk hero. Bryant and Harden have produced similar stats as high-volume scorers for good offenses, and I might even give Harden the efficiency edge. The bearded one just hasn't evoked the wonder of watching Bryant, at age 34, doggedly trying to land this rudderless plane of a Lakers season.

Young: Kobe Bryant. Considering that of all the incredible, unbelievable seasons Bryant has put up, this one might be one of his very best, it's kind of hard to argue that Harden's campaign has been better. Especially since the All-Star break. Kobe has gone through a few different phases this year, from scorer to facilitator to both -- and he really hasn't seen a drop in efficiency at any point.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #8992 on:** March 21, 2013, 12:46:40 AM »

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6583/anthony-davis

How good is Anthony Davis?

21+ per is great for a rookie but 13pts/8rebs/1.8 blks is pretty disappointing for someone who was supposed to be the best rookie big man since Tim Duncan

Also Davis was hyped up by many to instantly become the best shot blocker in the league

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #8993 on:** March 21, 2013, 12:49:06 AM »

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #8994 on:** March 21, 2013, 12:54:42 AM »

Quote from: Smooth Groove on March 21, 2013, 12:46:40 AM

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6583/anthony-davis

How good is Anthony Davis?

21+ per is great for a rookie but 13pts/8rebs/1.8 blks is pretty disappointing for someone who was supposed to be the best rookie big man since Tim Duncan

Also Davis was hyped up by many to instantly become the best shot blocker in the league

Who said that

He was a great defensive player in college but wasn't great offensively. I think he can be very good in the NBA though, he's not there yet

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #8995 on:** March 21, 2013, 01:00:05 AM »

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8100861/page/2/welcome-fourth-showdown-two-guys-care-nba-more-do

Big men like Anthony Davis come along once or twice a decade. I think there's only three players in the NBA right now that teams WOULDN'T trade for Davis: LeBron James, Kevin Durant and Chris Paul. Normally Dwight Howard and Deron Williams would be in that discussion, too, and so would Derrick Rose. But with Howard and Williams threatening to bolt and Rose's injury woes, I think the Magic, Nets and Bulls would all pull the trigger.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/5-on-5-120403/nba-draft-anthony-davis-better-blake-griffin

1. Who would you rather have: '09 Blake Griffin or '12 Anthony Davis?

Danny Chau, Hardwood Paroxysm: Anthony Davis. He doesn't have the offensive polish that Blake Griffin had then, but the mishmash of skills from his guard-to-center transition should serve him well in the future. But on the other end, Davis is light-years ahead of Griffin (today) in defensive fundamentals, intensity and technique. Already. Davis is a year younger than Griffin when he declared. That's frightening.

Brett Koremenos, NBA Playbook: Anthony Davis. Griffin's entertainment value largely hides the fact he is a one-dimensional player. Davis, meanwhile, has the ability to be devastating defensively and, at the very least, a solid jump-shooter on offense. Even if the current version of Griffin was allowed back into this upcoming draft, I'd still pick Davis. His ceiling could be one of the top 20 or so players of all time.

John Krolik, Cavs: The Blog: I think Davis is the best pure prospect we've seen since LeBron James, with the possible exception of Greg Oden if he had been healthy his freshman year. With Griffin, there were questions about his size and length, especially considering his lack of a perimeter game, and his ability to be a game-changer on both ends of the floor. But Davis should be a hyper-efficient offensive center from Day 1 and could become one of the five best defensive players in the NBA sooner rather than later.

Ethan Sherwood Strauss, HoopSpeak: Anthony Davis. For all his great qualities, Griffin is a balky shooter and an extremely undersized defender. My ideal frontcourt players can defend and hit a standard pick-and-pop jumper. Davis can certainly do the former, and he's demonstrated the potential to do the latter. And if AD does the latter, his ceiling is higher than a ladder can reach.

David Thorpe, Scouts Inc.: '09 Griffin is the better player overall, but I'd rather have Davis going forward. His value on defense trumps Blake's power and skill on offense. I also score Davis higher on attitude.

Beezy · « **Reply #8996 on:** March 21, 2013, 01:00:41 AM »

Please tell me that Chris Paul got fined for the worst flop of the year right there.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #8997 on:** March 21, 2013, 01:05:01 AM »

Quote from: Smooth Groove on March 21, 2013, 01:00:05 AM

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8100861/page/2/welcome-fourth-showdown-two-guys-care-nba-more-do

Big men like Anthony Davis come along once or twice a decade. I think there's only three players in the NBA right now that teams WOULDN'T trade for Davis: LeBron James, Kevin Durant and Chris Paul. Normally Dwight Howard and Deron Williams would be in that discussion, too, and so would Derrick Rose. But with Howard and Williams threatening to bolt and Rose's injury woes, I think the Magic, Nets and Bulls would all pull the trigger.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/5-on-5-120403/nba-draft-anthony-davis-better-blake-griffin

1. Who would you rather have: '09 Blake Griffin or '12 Anthony Davis?

Danny Chau, Hardwood Paroxysm: Anthony Davis. He doesn't have the offensive polish that Blake Griffin had then, but the mishmash of skills from his guard-to-center transition should serve him well in the future. But on the other end, Davis is light-years ahead of Griffin (today) in defensive fundamentals, intensity and technique. Already. Davis is a year younger than Griffin when he declared. That's frightening.

Brett Koremenos, NBA Playbook: Anthony Davis. Griffin's entertainment value largely hides the fact he is a one-dimensional player. Davis, meanwhile, has the ability to be devastating defensively and, at the very least, a solid jump-shooter on offense. Even if the current version of Griffin was allowed back into this upcoming draft, I'd still pick Davis. His ceiling could be one of the top 20 or so players of all time.

John Krolik, Cavs: The Blog: I think Davis is the best pure prospect we've seen since LeBron James, with the possible exception of Greg Oden if he had been healthy his freshman year. With Griffin, there were questions about his size and length, especially considering his lack of a perimeter game, and his ability to be a game-changer on both ends of the floor. But Davis should be a hyper-efficient offensive center from Day 1 and could become one of the five best defensive players in the NBA sooner rather than later.

Ethan Sherwood Strauss, HoopSpeak: Anthony Davis. For all his great qualities, Griffin is a balky shooter and an extremely undersized defender. My ideal frontcourt players can defend and hit a standard pick-and-pop jumper. Davis can certainly do the former, and he's demonstrated the potential to do the latter. And if AD does the latter, his ceiling is higher than a ladder can reach.

David Thorpe, Scouts Inc.: '09 Griffin is the better player overall, but I'd rather have Davis going forward. His value on defense trumps Blake's power and skill on offense. I also score Davis higher on attitude.

I'd take Davis over Griffin too...but a twice in a decade player?

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #8998 on:** March 21, 2013, 01:08:27 AM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on March 19, 2013, 01:35:27 PM

This streak is starting to annoy me. How can I bitch and moan about every little thing with the Heat if they keep on winning like this.

"Heat are peaking at the wrong time, they're gonna be tired out when the playoff get here!" :sadbron

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #8999 on:** March 21, 2013, 01:09:50 AM »

"Best pure prospect we've seen since LeBron James"?

I'd be surprised if Davis' production matches KD, Westbrook, Harden, Kyrie in the next 5 years

News:

Author Topic: The NBA thread (Read 1519797 times)