why do homos freak you out?

[Van Cruncheon]

srsly. when i was like 13, of course i was a rampant little homophobe, because nothing was more terrifying than the idea of being labeled "gay" and to compensate, i screamed about how i hated homos and how other kids were gay. then i turned, i dunno, 14 and it stopped mattering so much because even in a hillbilly town, i knew that if i wasn't aroused by dudes i wasn't gay so why should i care. didn't stop my classmates from freaking out about it until even their 30s, but half of them were sports fans and probably had shameful gay sex on the side anyhow.

so why the fuck do ADULTS flip out about fegs? don't pretend you're grossed out by it, 'cuz half you shitheels would drill a chick in her stinky winky given the opportunity, and another half of you have porn tastes that are far grosser than two dudes makin' the beast with two backs.

seriously, if gay people ick you out, YOU ARE A MANCHILD. reading the freeper forums, you'd think they'd just watched august underground (note: do NOT google) when all they'd seen was two well-groomed guys making out. IT'S AN ABERRATION OF NATURE they squeal, forgetting that NATURE MAKES PLENTY OF THINGS NOT INTENDED FOR REPRODUCTION -and- IT MADE TEH HOMO, and also most of them do things that are far more abhorrent to this mystical anthropomorphized notion of nature and/or its implication of God, like having tire fires in the back of the trailer park or shopping at Wal-Mart on a regular basis.

so shut the fuck up about fegs already. hell, Jesus was gay, and y'all worship him.

[jobber]

no homo.

[Van Cruncheon]

i should add that i am listening to hicks from kent, wa squeal about senator craig on kiro 710 talk radio, and hence this thread was spawned.

[Mr. Gundam]

i should add that i am listing to hicks from kent, wa squeal about senator craig on kiro 710 talk radio, and hence this thread was spawned.

Haha, I should turn over to 710... well, I would've if the M's game wasn't on!

[Fragamemnon]

Homosexuality, to many people, is looked on as some sort of union of taboo sexuality and a judeo-christian sense of godlessness.

atheist = bad
sexual pervert or deviant = creepy
the union of both = freak out city

I'm not that kind of person-my sister is a lesbian and she's too cool for school, and gay guys are just guys since, you know, I am not attracted to them.

fuck drinky stop listening to AM radio. the seattle npr station is quite good.

[Smooth Groove]

Most radio political shows are ultra conservative.  It's pretty scary the stuff that you hear from those people sometimes.  Like people who are outraged at people that are outraged about Bush's claim of the deaths of at least 100,000 innocent civilians in Iraq.  They're like, "what's the big deal about 100,000 deaths?",  "the complainers are traitors to this country and should be locked up", etc...  I seriously don't understand why it is so wrong to care about the lives of other human beings, including foreigners and homosexuals.  Isn't that what Jesus taught everyone?  

[TVC15]

I am listening to Of Montreal

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[MrAngryFace]

It always struck me as funny how guys would be scared homosexuals would like, jump out of bushes and poke them in the pooper. I mean thats just ridiculous haha.

[demi]

I would drill a guy in his stinky winky, given the opportunity

A hole is a hole is a hole

[Smooth Groove]

It always struck me as funny how guys would be scared homosexuals would like, jump out of bushes and poke them in the pooper. I mean thats just ridiculous haha.

When I was in the dorm, they always had stories about guys that would be made unconscious by their gay roomates and then wake up later with sore butts.  

I would drill a guy in his stinky winky, given the opportunity

A hole is a hole is a hole

Mod consoles and sell pirated software so that you end up in jail.

[Van Cruncheon]

OR IS IT, MAF

i listen to kiro because npr is dry and boring. like i give a shit about the history of jazz or the story of a woman who struggled to save her village in south america! kiro has people shouting and saying amazingly awful things.

[Mr. Gundam]

I've always found it ironic that straight people are more likely to molest their own children than gay people who adopt kids.

[FlameOfCallandor]

I dont think it's gross I think its hilarious.

[Madrun Badrun]

You know, before I got here I didn't think I was homophobic, then himu (who said he was bi) started making passes at me and it really freaked me out because I thought he was real.     Only time I've been scared of teh gay. 

I think it's just something people are scared off because they don't understand it or aren't use to it. 

[etiolate]

I am not so sure there is a real freak out.  Homophobia has always been a poorly made word, as people aren't afraid of homosexuals, they just have been brought up with moral disagreements with it.  Radio talk is just a place for freak outs in general.

I think the only real freak out is a person's first thought of two of the same gender having relations, sexually and romantic.  It gives a feeling of strangeness and confusion at first.  Past that, and since it's a major part of pop culture now, it is just another groupism.

[Mupepe]

gay sex doesn't really freak me out.  i like to flirt with guys, but i don't think a dick in my mouth would turn me on.  I should try it out though.

i bet if i got drunk with tvc, i'd end up asking him to let me blow him to see if i like it.

[Mandark]

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Cause marginalizing the poofs wins you Man Points, and hopefully gets people to overlook your bow tie, your appearance on a celebrity dance show, and that time a comedian got your show canceled with a single guest spot.

[FlameOfCallandor]

Because I just want to pee in a public restroom without having to play footsie with a cher crossdresser.

[TakingBackSunday]

It's not that I'm against it or anything.  You're gay?  That's great.  You have a partner?  I bet you're happy.  I'm just not really, you know, interested in what they do.  I like women–anything other than that just isn't for me.

[Smooth Groove]

Because I just want to pee in a public restroom without having to play footsie with a cher crossdresser.

Gays aren't intersted in straights.  Although they might sodomize you for being a dumbass.

[etiolate]

I do actually hate when people talk to me in a restroom, especially at the urinal.  This is my private time!

[Van Cruncheon]

if they're harassing you in a restroom, it's because you look like an uptight asshole, and who according to evilbore DOESN'T want to fuck with an uptight asshole? just suck their dick and they'll be cool with you. it's not really a problem.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

wait, Tucker admits on TV that he beat the crap out of a guy for soliciting him in a restroom? that's so messed up on so many levels

[demi]

Trucker stops make good dates

[Van Cruncheon]

how could tucker beat anyone up, much less a truckstop bear? he probably got a train run on his ass.

[Mandark]

You know, us librulz tend to think of this as a Bible-thumper issue, but there's a ton of hate directed at the whole GLBT spectrum by people who don't give a crap about Jesus (and don't pretend to).

It's probably as boring and simple as people conforming to the gender norms they were brought up with, and getting really bothered when they come under attack.  It's also a chance to show how masculine (not gay) you yourself are without having to do anything harder than having (or faking) the most common orientation.

It is funny how even a lot of "tolerant" types will take the time to tell you without being asked that they're 100% completely hetero, or to explain their paranoid fantasy world in which they're constantly besieged by aggressive and amorous swishes (who apparently find the author irresistible).

[Mupepe]

i tried a finger in my butt and i didn't care for it.  i wonder if it would feel better or worse with a penis in my butt.

[FlameOfCallandor]

I have a question for you guys. If you were in a debate class and had to argue against gay marriage or against society being accepting of gays how would you argue it? Im curious about how you would play devil's advocate in this situation.

For example,
In my speech class I had to argue for Rape.

[TVC15]

wait, Tucker admits on TV that he beat the crap out of a guy for soliciting him in a restroom? that's so messed up on so many levels

His story seemed really truthy.  

[Van Cruncheon]

yeah, i'd venture most of my hs buddies weren't bible freaks, but they were raging fagbashers nonetheless. in at least couple cases, i *know* thay had latent homosexual issues and had even experimented with it, although if you even hinted at it they'd try to tie you to the back of their pick-em-up truck.

[Smooth Groove]

yeah, i'd venture most of my hs buddies weren't bible freaks, but they were raging fagbashers nonetheless. in at least couple cases, i *know* thay had latent homosexual issues and had even experimented with it, although if you even hinted at it they'd try to tie you to the back of their pick-em-up truck.

How did you find out?  It sounds like a real life Brokeback Mountain story. 

[Mandark]

wait, Tucker admits on TV that he beat the crap out of a guy for soliciting him in a restroom? that's so messed up on so many levels

He doesn't seem repentant at all, AND he cops to needing a friend there to work up the courage.  I assume he's modified the facts to make himself look better, and he still comes off as a complete puss.

I assume he doesn't think this is acceptable behavior for women who are the subject of unwanted passes from guys.  So the lesson here isn't to harass other people in hopes of sex, but to not be gay.

And Tucker is one of the least gay-hating right-wingers there is.  He says so himself.

[drohne]

For example,
In my speech class I had to argue for Rape.

did your argument go 'how else am i ever going to get any'

because that would've been pretty convincing

[Howard Alan Treesong]

I have a question for you guys. If you were in a debate class and had to argue against gay marriage or against society being accepting of gays how would you argue it? Im curious about how you would play devil's advocate in this situation.

For example,
In my speech class I had to argue for Rape.

see, the whole difference between us and you, is we don't stoop to your level
good job trying to trick us into holding a morally reprehensible conversation through the "debate class" frame story however

[Mondain]

duh, straight males are often fazed and resent gays because their very existence messes with their most basic nature, which is to seek willing females and reproduce

and because they have special privileges; it's seen as frowned upon to do or say anything that might be interpreted as anti-gay, but society doesn't mind other kinds of heinous behaviors... they don't like the double standard and pin their spite on them

[Van Cruncheon]

smooth groove, ever been to an hs party? if you stay sober long enough, you'll ALWAYS see some surprising shiz.

[Saint Cornelius]

Gays aren't intersted in straights. 

I've been hit on by more guys in my lifetime than I have women. And I mean apart from some things done out of drunken curiosity, I'm pretty fucking straight.

And TVC would bear my children if he could. So, don't really know where you come up with "gays aren't interested in straights". I'm sure Dan Savage has something to say about this.

[Van Cruncheon]

mondain, are you gay

[Saint Cornelius]

Mondain, why was it necessary for you to say "duh"?

[Mondain]

stop inquiring, creepo

[Van Cruncheon]

duh, white males are often fazed and resent black men having oral or anal sex with white women because its very existence messes with their most basic nature, which is to reproduce

and because they have special privileges; it's seen as frowned upon to do or say anything that might be interpreted as anti-black, but society doesn't mind other kinds of heinous behaviors... they don't like the double standard and pin their spite on them

[Mandark]

and because they have special privileges; it's seen as frowned upon to do or say anything that might be interpreted as anti-gay

Homophobia didn't exist until after people made homophobia taboo?  That's some trick

[Van Cruncheon]

stop inquiring, creepo

have you ever thought you might like having a hard eager cock poke your tonsils

just asking, no homo

[Saint Cornelius]

get out from behind the keyboard, Mondain. every post of yours is a cry for human interaction.

[Fragamemnon]

yeah, i'd venture most of my hs buddies weren't bible freaks, but they were raging fagbashers nonetheless. in at least couple cases, i *know* thay had latent homosexual issues and had even experimented with it, although if you even hinted at it they'd try to tie you to the back of their pick-em-up truck.

My experiences are clouded by living in the southern baptist bible belt all my life, mostly in small towns. Even if you aren't a religious person, your sense of morality is at least somewhat influenced, at least early on, by the huge cutlural influence of those churches on the community.

[FlameOfCallandor]

see, the whole difference between us and you, is we don't stoop to your level
good job trying to trick us into holding a morally reprehensible conversation through the "debate class" frame story however

Ah yes, it must be easy to only ever see one side of an argument.

[Smooth Groove]

Gays aren't intersted in straights. 

I've been hit on by more guys in my lifetime than I have women. And I mean apart from some things done out of drunken curiosity, I'm pretty fucking straight.

And TVC would bear my children if he could. So, don't really know where you come up with "gays aren't interested in straights". I'm sure Dan Savage has something to say about this.

I heard that from gay classmates in College.  They claimed that straight guys worry for no reason because they aren't attracted to straights, no matter how good looking they are. 

[Mondain]

and because they have special privileges; it's seen as frowned upon to do or say anything that might be interpreted as anti-gay

Homophobia didn't exist until after people made homophobia taboo?  That's some trick

that's a modern reality, everything is turned to some political fight

[FlameOfCallandor]

Gays aren't intersted in straights. 

I've been hit on by more guys in my lifetime than I have women. And I mean apart from some things done out of drunken curiosity, I'm pretty fucking straight.

And TVC would bear my children if he could. So, don't really know where you come up with "gays aren't interested in straights". I'm sure Dan Savage has something to say about this.

I heard that from gay classmates in College.  They claimed that straight guys worry for no reason because they aren't attracted to straights, no matter how good looking they are. 

Just like straight men are never attracted to lesbians no matter how hot.

Oh wait...

[Mr. Gundam]

Gays aren't intersted in straights. 

I've been hit on by more guys in my lifetime than I have women. And I mean apart from some things done out of drunken curiosity, I'm pretty fucking straight.

And TVC would bear my children if he could. So, don't really know where you come up with "gays aren't interested in straights". I'm sure Dan Savage has something to say about this.

I heard that from gay classmates in College.  They claimed that straight guys worry for no reason because they aren't attracted to straights, no matter how good looking they are. 

Just like straight men are never attracted to lesbians no matter how hot.

Oh wait...

My God, you really are an idiot.

[aoi tsuki]

The only gays that freak me out are the older types and the bears that come on to me. It's not that getting hit on by guys my age is awesome, but getting hit on by the first two groups makes me want to vomit.

[Van Cruncheon]

that makes no sense as an analogy, foc.

as for debates: sometimes, there is only one side worth arguing.

[tiesto]

FoC: In a freshman colloquium class at college, the class was divided into different teams, and each of them had to argue both for and against a controversial topic... i.e. abortion, gay marriage, drug legalization, etc... my group got stuck with "gay marriage"... I forgot exactly what we said when arguing against it, mostly just repeating the same tired arguments like "it violates the sanctity of marriage!" and "the Bible says its bad".

[Mandark]

My experiences are clouded by living in the southern baptist bible belt all my life, mostly in small towns. Even if you aren't a religious person, your sense of morality is at least somewhat influenced, at least early on, by the huge cutlural influence of those churches on the community.

It goes the other way, too (lol, punz).  I'd say it's 25% Bible-thumpers influencing the community, and 75% the community's existing biases getting retconned as divine intervention, rather than the inherited (and arbitrary) social conventions they are.

Think of the religious arguments against miscegenation that were used for centuries, then abruptly dumped.

[Saint Cornelius]

My God, you really are an idiot.

What was idiotic about what he said (this time)?

that makes no sense as an analogy, foc.

Why not?

[FlameOfCallandor]

as for debates: sometimes, there is only one side worth arguing.

What about lawyers who are required to defend criminals that are guilty?

[Van Cruncheon]

because straight women have no problem getting hot over gay guys -- see the yaoi phenomenon. his analogy of reversing the gender is correctly posited by asking why women don't freak out over seeing lesbians have sex -- which is false, because many women do. sadly, my wife doesn't much like the hot lady-on-lady action. :'( it is a cruel world.

[Van Cruncheon]

as for debates: sometimes, there is only one side worth arguing.

What about lawyers who are required to defend criminals that are guilty?

because they are innocent until PROVEN guilty; hence, they are not a priori guilty?

you dumbfuck.

[Mandark]

Of course some gay guys will be attracted to some straight guys.  Ya know why?

People having unrequited feelings of lust happens ALL THE TIME, on each side of the fence, and across it.  That was how I spent most of my time in high school.

The only reason to bring it up as a uniquely gay thing, or to see it only as a problem when gay dudes to it towards straight dudes, is because you think being gay is wrong and icky and can't they have the decency to hide who they are from us normals?

[Saint Cornelius]

because straight women have no problem getting hot over gay guys -- see the yaoi phenomenon. his analogy of reversing the gender is correctly posited by asking why women don't freak out over seeing lesbians have sex -- which is false, because many women do. sadly, my wife doesn't much like the hot lady-on-lady action. :'( it is a cruel world.

ah okay, I didn't really think about how he changed the gender like that. it's not a good analogy, you're right.