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Re: International Politics Thread - Go! Macron V
« Reply #3180 on: June 05, 2017, 05:15:58 AM »
What the fuck just happened to the Gulf Cooperation Council?

Reuters is reminding everyone that one such dispute already happened in 2014. I don't know enough to have any valuable insight but it's a really big diplomatic crisis (Qatar expelled from the alliance in Yemen, residents expelled and flights suspended...) so I guess the grievance against Qatar must be fairly bad.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN18W0DQ?il=0
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« Reply #3181 on: June 05, 2017, 06:32:04 PM »


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« Reply #3182 on: June 05, 2017, 10:40:26 PM »
I remember watching this doc last year. Turns out one of the attackers was there.




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« Reply #3183 on: June 06, 2017, 05:57:47 AM »


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I haven't seen dynamic stage presence like that since the dry readings for Napoleon Dynamite.

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« Reply #3184 on: June 06, 2017, 06:39:23 AM »
France possibly ending tax breaks for Qatar ?
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN18X10V?il=0

Germany pulling troops from Turkey as NATO bonds are decaying :
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSKBN18X10I
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Re: International Politics Thread - Go! Macron V
« Reply #3185 on: June 06, 2017, 12:10:16 PM »
Well, French polls seem to suggest that Macron will get a comfortable majority in upcoming legislative elections (maybe 300-400 seats out of 577). Right-wing LR could maybe get 100 (they have 200+ currently), Socialists & allies between 25 and 60 (compared to 280+), and maybe 5 to 20 seats for each far left FI and far right FN.

This is a massive problem for the Socialists, because the public financing of political parties are tied to the results of the election and for both LR and PS is the most important source for funding.

Political observers are now routinely expecting both the PS and LR to implode within the year. Far-left Mélenchon is pretty clearly trying to grind what's left of the Socialists to rise as the only leftist champion. Macron's success and the sudden emergence of a massive central bloc will maybe be the trigger for breaking the party in two between those ready to embrace alliances with the far-right and the others. It's all maybe a bit premature, however, as it's hard to have any certainties on how solid "Macronism" will be beyond the current wave and if it will gel as a real entity with a coherent ideology. And even at the verge of ruin, PS and LR have longstanding, solid networks which are in themselves valuable assets.

Meanwhile some controversy as the newspaper "Le Parisien - Aujourd'hui en France" claims to have had access to a draft of the upcoming labor law reform (or to be technical : a bill for the parliament to allow the government to use decrees instead of passing bills on the matter for a given period of time), going beyond what has been made public so far. Official sources denies it is a draft. Things should be made clear soon as union leaders will enter in discussions and negociations with the government shortly.
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« Reply #3186 on: June 06, 2017, 12:13:20 PM »
French elections never seem to end

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« Reply #3187 on: June 06, 2017, 12:16:55 PM »
French elections never seem to end

Oh don't worry, on the night of the 18 it will be settled. Especially if Macron gets a massive wave. Though there's still the senate (it's an indirect election, and it gets renewed by a third every three years).
However this might be the start of a possible strike season.
But it's almost done now : Macron will probably have a big mandate by citizens to do as he pleases.
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« Reply #3188 on: June 06, 2017, 12:19:08 PM »
I don't really watch the regular strike season, just the finals. 

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« Reply #3189 on: June 06, 2017, 12:20:32 PM »
I don't really watch the regular strike season, just the finals.

World Series 1917 - Winner : Bolsheviks.
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« Reply #3190 on: June 06, 2017, 12:28:31 PM »
Only cause the pro players were away for the war. 

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« Reply #3191 on: June 06, 2017, 02:09:13 PM »
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-12-07/glencore-qatar-fund-buy-russia-s-rosneft-stake-for-11-billion

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Commodity trader Glencore Plc and Qatar’s sovereign wealth fund agreed to buy a 10.2-billion euro ($11 billion) stake in Russia’s largest oil producer from the state in a triumph for President Vladimir Putin over sanctions imposed by the West.

The surprise deal gives the buyers a 19.5 percent stake in Rosneft PJSC, which the U.S. and European Union have targeted with punitive measures, and is the biggest foreign investment in Russia since the crisis in Ukraine. It also marks a stunning return to deal-making for Glencore Chief Executive Officer Ivan Glasenberg a little more than a year after his company was forced to raise cash from shareholders.

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Bringing in buyers for Rosneft, especially a trader like Glencore, probably makes “Putin smile all the way to when Santa Claus comes around in Moscow,” Steen Jakobsen, the chief investment officer of Saxo Bank A/S, said on Bloomberg Television on Thursday. Putin “was under pressure because the privatization program in Russia has been very stale and it has been almost impossible to find them a deal partner.”

Glencore's chairman is Tony "BP oil spill" Hayward

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« Reply #3192 on: June 06, 2017, 05:48:36 PM »
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/london-bridge-terror-attack-fk-fuck-you-im-millwall-hero-roy-larner-football-fan-lion-of-london-a7775246.html

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Calls for Roy Larner, the 'Lion of London Bridge', to be given a medal after reportedly saving lives and making Millwall fans popular by single-handedly taking on the three attackers

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“Like an idiot,” he told the newspaper, “I shouted back at them. I thought, ‘I need to take the p*** out of these b******s’.”

“I took a few steps towards them and said, ‘F*** you, I’m Millwall’. So they started attacking me.”

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“I didn’t think of my safety at the time,” he added. “I’d had four or five pints — nothing major.

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« Reply #3194 on: June 07, 2017, 02:57:18 AM »
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/06/uae-social-media-users-face-jail-qatar-sympathy-170607053416087.html
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In a statement released on Wednesday, UAE's Attorney-General Hamad Saif al-Shamsi said sympathising with Qatar was a cybercrime punishable by law.

"Strict and firm action will be taken against anyone who shows sympathy or any form of bias towards Qatar, or against anyone who objects to the position of the United Arab Emirates, whether it be through the means of social media, or any type of written, visual or verbal form," Gulf News quoted Shamsi as saying in the statement.

The Federal Public Prosecution also announced that according to the Federal Penal Code and the Federal law decree on Combating Information Technology Crimes, anyone who threaten the interests, national unity and stability of the UAE will face a jail term from three to 15 years, and a fine not less than AED 500,000 ($136,000).

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« Reply #3195 on: June 07, 2017, 05:08:05 AM »
A group of people attacked Iran's parliament.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/BigStory12/idUSKBN18Y0HV
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« Reply #3196 on: June 07, 2017, 07:07:47 AM »
Another day in Festung Europa

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/06/theresa-may-rip-up-human-rights-laws-impede-new-terror-legislation

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[May] said: “But I can tell you a few of the things I mean by that: I mean longer prison sentences for people convicted of terrorist offences. I mean making it easier for the authorities to deport foreign terror suspects to their own countries.

“And I mean doing more to restrict the freedom and the movements of terrorist suspects when we have enough evidence to know they present a threat, but not enough evidence to prosecute them in full in court.

“And if human rights laws stop us from doing it, we will change those laws so we can do it.”

Still in the UK, Diane Abbott, a fairly prominent Labour member (up to now the prospective Home Secretary) is taking an indefinite break from the campaign for an undisclosed but serious sounding health condition.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/07/diane-abbott-to-step-aside-for-the-period-of-her-ill-health-corbyn-says
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« Reply #3197 on: June 07, 2017, 12:35:01 PM »


Good luck on your general election, Brit Borians.  :doge

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« Reply #3198 on: June 07, 2017, 12:44:09 PM »
They pop up every now-and-then.

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« Reply #3199 on: June 07, 2017, 01:15:46 PM »
They pop up every now-and-then.
Fucking gophers



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« Reply #3202 on: June 07, 2017, 05:51:48 PM »

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« Reply #3203 on: June 07, 2017, 07:39:42 PM »
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« Reply #3204 on: June 08, 2017, 05:51:09 AM »
Iran not too pleased with statement from Trump.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-iran-usa-attacks-idUKKBN18Z0LE

Japan updating its 1907 laws on rape
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-japan-rape-idUKKBN18Z0V2
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« Reply #3205 on: June 08, 2017, 07:31:06 AM »

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« Reply #3206 on: June 08, 2017, 09:01:33 AM »

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« Reply #3207 on: June 08, 2017, 06:02:06 PM »
Exit poll suggests Britain is on course for a hung parliament

David Dimbleby is reading out the results

Conservatives: 314

Labour: 266

SNP: 34

Lib Dems: 14

Plaid Cymru: 3

Greens: 1

Ukip: 0

Others: 18

And this is how these results would compare with 2015.

Conservatives: Down 16 on the 2015 seat result

Labour: Up 34

SNP: Down 22

Lib Dems: Up 6

325 is needed for a majority in Parliament.
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« Reply #3208 on: June 08, 2017, 06:32:24 PM »


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« Reply #3209 on: June 08, 2017, 06:36:00 PM »
Another woman losing to a low energy old guy  :doge
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« Reply #3211 on: June 08, 2017, 08:06:01 PM »
Today has been a good day for liberals.
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« Reply #3212 on: June 08, 2017, 08:41:42 PM »
Theresa May gonna have to queue up in the unemployment benefits line alongside all those immigrants  :lol

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« Reply #3213 on: June 08, 2017, 09:48:02 PM »
this might come down to northern ireland wtf

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« Reply #3214 on: June 08, 2017, 10:40:08 PM »
Iran not too pleased with statement from Trump.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-iran-usa-attacks-idUKKBN18Z0LE

Japan updating its 1907 laws on rape
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-japan-rape-idUKKBN18Z0V2

Interesting; I'm certain that the intent on enabling prosecution even when the victim does not press charges is focused on power-harassment, though I'm wondering what side-effects this will have.

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« Reply #3215 on: June 09, 2017, 05:14:39 AM »
some dude on the sky news said the tories are discussing dumping may and immediately calling for another election :doge

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« Reply #3216 on: June 09, 2017, 05:17:37 AM »
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« Reply #3217 on: June 09, 2017, 05:19:34 AM »
Oh snap.

https://www.makeourplanetgreatagain.fr/

Website details information and opportunities (research grants for instance).

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« Reply #3218 on: June 09, 2017, 05:30:24 AM »
trying to hop on evilore's coattails obv

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« Reply #3219 on: June 09, 2017, 05:49:07 AM »
Oh snap.

https://www.makeourplanetgreatagain.fr/

Website details information and opportunities (research grants for instance).

It's smart but isn't one of the biggest issues the disparity in grants and wages ? Always heard France could not compete (relative to the US) on that front. Don't know how effective the poaching can be in light of that.
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« Reply #3220 on: June 09, 2017, 07:24:56 AM »
guess they found a deal:
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Theresa May has struck a deal with the Democratic Unionists that will allow her to form a government, sources have confirmed.

The prime minister is expected to see the Queen at about 12.30pm on Friday to confirm that a deal is in place.

It follows extensive talks with the DUP late into the night. Party figures say they have been driven on by their dismay at the possibility of Jeremy Corbyn becoming prime minister.
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A DUP source said: “We want there to be a government. We have worked well with May. The alternative is intolerable. For as long as Corbyn leads Labour, we will ensure there’s a Tory PM.”
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Senior DUP figures claim they moved quickly to form an agreement to stop any chance of Corbyn entering No 10 because of his and John McDonnell’s past support for Sinn Féin and the IRA.

“The two parties [Labour and DUP] have worked well together for two years. There’s no reason to suppose they won’t continue to do so in future. But the point made time after time to Labour MPs remains: for as long as you allow yourselves to be led by an IRA cheerleader, you exclude yourselves from entering No 10,” said a DUP source.

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« Reply #3221 on: June 09, 2017, 08:05:40 AM »
Join up with open racists to save face, brehs.   :doge

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« Reply #3222 on: June 09, 2017, 01:11:37 PM »


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« Reply #3223 on: June 09, 2017, 04:29:34 PM »
Corbyn scares people as incompetent the same way Trump does even if their politics are vastly different.

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« Reply #3224 on: June 09, 2017, 07:13:57 PM »

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« Reply #3227 on: June 09, 2017, 09:24:58 PM »
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« Reply #3228 on: June 10, 2017, 01:27:00 AM »
All hail Lord Buckethead.


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« Reply #3229 on: June 10, 2017, 01:41:52 AM »
I dunno about drawing broad conclusions from this election.

But suck it UKIP. More like United Kingdom Impotence Party! Boom. Roasted.

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« Reply #3230 on: June 10, 2017, 01:58:21 AM »
Depardon finally released, will be back in Paris later today.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-40225950

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« Reply #3231 on: June 10, 2017, 02:16:11 AM »
Can someone explain to me why this translates into "BERNIE WOULD HAVE WON" from the UK to the US over twitter?

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« Reply #3232 on: June 10, 2017, 02:26:22 AM »
Because the politics of other countries are merely metaphors for our own and also losing narrowly is basically winning.

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« Reply #3233 on: June 10, 2017, 02:49:14 AM »
Can someone explain to me why this translates into "BERNIE WOULD HAVE WON" from the UK to the US over twitter?

Sure. Here's why:

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« Reply #3235 on: June 10, 2017, 11:21:58 AM »
Oh cool, everything is going to work out now.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/40232154

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The atmosphere in Downing Street under Theresa May is "pretty toxic" and its operation "dysfunctional", a former aide of the prime minister has said.

Katie Perrior, who served as director of communications for 10 months, said she and others were not able to "speak freely" and her advice was not heeded.

She accused the PM's chiefs of staff Fiona Hill and Nick Timothy of treating ministers with a lack of respect.

The PM is being urged to make changes after failing to win the election.

The BBC understands Mrs May has been warned she faces a leadership challenge on Monday unless she sacks her two closest advisers.

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« Reply #3237 on: June 10, 2017, 05:30:36 PM »
Oh please for the love of all the british cakes, please do it. :lol

https://twitter.com/ShippersUnbound/status/873645501438144512

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« Reply #3238 on: June 10, 2017, 05:53:59 PM »
True Story: Americans are still wondering who won the British election

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« Reply #3239 on: June 10, 2017, 06:20:35 PM »
With good reason. You have to wait until Parliament reconvenes so they can count the Electoral Votes duh.

Their whole system for choosing an executive is based on a centuries old method using geographically distributed votes. They don't actually cast any votes for PM if you can believe that, it's all for other people who then vote for PM. Don't even need a majority or plurality of the popular vote.