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Re: International Politics Thread - Will trade grandma for EU passport
« Reply #3061 on: May 04, 2017, 10:16:27 AM »
what a cunt

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Re: International Politics Thread - Will trade grandma for EU passport
« Reply #3062 on: May 04, 2017, 01:11:16 PM »
c-c-c-cuck

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Re: International Politics Thread - Will trade grandma for EU passport
« Reply #3063 on: May 04, 2017, 03:21:42 PM »
macron with the "ok" symbol, confirmed for nazi

looks like msm had the wrong person all along
le pen was a false flag

chem trails seen over the debate venue
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Re: International Politics Thread - Will trade grandma for EU passport
« Reply #3064 on: May 05, 2017, 05:44:20 PM »
macron leaks..
even if they're real it's probably too late to change anything
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Re: International Politics Thread - Will trade grandma for EU passport
« Reply #3065 on: May 05, 2017, 10:34:05 PM »
although I think the null hypothesis is much more likely I sort of hope the theory Assange is pushing of these leaks as a meta-psyop turns out to be true, just for the schadenfreude of knowing someone else has gotten reflexive control over /pol/. weaponized autism indeed.

alternatively, if you'd rather read a take by an actual smart person, here's a Twitter thread:

https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/860658836570591232
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Re: International Politics Thread - Will trade grandma for EU passport
« Reply #3066 on: May 05, 2017, 11:27:11 PM »
I was actually thinking about that too, which begs the next question, who benefits more by having Macron in power but with a possible black mark vs. just having Le Pen there in the first place?
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Re: International Politics Thread - Will trade grandma for EU passport
« Reply #3067 on: May 06, 2017, 06:03:48 PM »
from what little i've heard, there's nothing in the macron leaks besides him loving the coco

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Re: International Politics Thread - Will trade grandma for EU passport
« Reply #3068 on: May 06, 2017, 06:04:14 PM »
Can we get this thread stickied? It's annoying to always have to look for it. Unsticky one of the dumb meme/porn threads if sticky bloat is a concern, I never click on either of those. Atra has the better meme thread anyway.
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Re: International Politics Thread - Artisanal French memes only
« Reply #3069 on: May 06, 2017, 06:37:53 PM »
Okay, your majesty.
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« Reply #3070 on: May 06, 2017, 07:18:19 PM »
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Re: International Politics Thread - Artisanal French memes only
« Reply #3072 on: May 07, 2017, 07:22:06 AM »
Voted this morning. Going to the movies tonight, hopefully everyone will be in front of their tvs. Will just check on the mobile phone at 8pm that everything went as expected.
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« Reply #3073 on: May 07, 2017, 08:37:04 AM »
Turnout's fairly comparable to the first round so far. Lower than the last election, but higher than in 2002 (when Le Pen Sniorr got to the second round).

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« Reply #3074 on: May 07, 2017, 09:56:02 AM »
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/garda-launch-blasphemy-probe-into-stephen-fry-comments-on-the-meaning-of-life-35684262.html

Enforce blasphemy laws in 2017 brehs.

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Re: International Politics Thread - Artisanal French memes only
« Reply #3075 on: May 07, 2017, 10:00:04 AM »
Its almost certain that Fry is fine with this and they are trying to get this law actually tested.

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Re: International Politics Thread - Artisanal French memes only
« Reply #3076 on: May 07, 2017, 01:48:15 PM »

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« Reply #3077 on: May 07, 2017, 02:05:05 PM »
Macron won, 65-35. All according to keikaku.

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« Reply #3078 on: May 07, 2017, 02:06:47 PM »
Heading to /pol/ now to watch the mental breakdowns.  :aah

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« Reply #3079 on: May 07, 2017, 02:15:17 PM »
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« Reply #3080 on: May 07, 2017, 02:22:20 PM »
Super Democratic Frenchman Macron
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« Reply #3081 on: May 07, 2017, 02:38:43 PM »
Heading to /pol/ now to watch the mental breakdowns.  :aah

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so how many points worth of the margin do you suppose can be entirely attributed directly to disgusting /pol/ nematodes and the natural revulsion they elicit in cultured French sophisticates? 5%? 10%?

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Re: International Politics Thread - Go! Macron V
« Reply #3082 on: May 07, 2017, 03:25:45 PM »
The_Donald went also, perdon my french, full distinguished mentally-challenged.

Feels good.

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« Reply #3083 on: May 07, 2017, 03:55:44 PM »
Weird seeing ostensible "nationalists" invest themselves in the domestic politics of other countries.

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I mean, not weird at all when "nationalist" is clearly a euphemism, but y'know.
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Re: International Politics Thread - Go! Macron V
« Reply #3084 on: May 07, 2017, 04:01:27 PM »
The_Donald went also, perdon my french, full distinguished mentally-challenged.

Feels good.

I'm not fucking going there, but do tell -- how are they rationalizing this?
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Re: International Politics Thread - Go! Macron V
« Reply #3085 on: May 07, 2017, 04:04:41 PM »
The_Donald went also, perdon my french, full distinguished mentally-challenged.

Feels good.

I'm not fucking going there, but do tell -- how are they rationalizing this?

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Re: International Politics Thread - Go! Macron V
« Reply #3086 on: May 07, 2017, 04:05:03 PM »
The_Donald went also, perdon my french, full distinguished mentally-challenged.

Feels good.

I'm not fucking going there, but do tell -- how are they rationalizing this?
Both stickies right now:
"10 MILLION MUSLIMS INVADED FRANCE. Today, they voted for a banker so they can keep killing French kids while he destroys Europeans' homelands"

"Teenage refugees take a break from standing in welfare line to thank Allah for Macron Win"

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Re: International Politics Thread - Go! Macron V
« Reply #3087 on: May 07, 2017, 04:05:40 PM »
jfc
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Re: International Politics Thread - Go! Macron V
« Reply #3088 on: May 07, 2017, 04:13:21 PM »
The_Donald went also, perdon my french, full distinguished mentally-challenged.

Feels good.

I'm not fucking going there, but do tell -- how are they rationalizing this?
Both stickies right now:
"10 MILLION MUSLIMS INVADED FRANCE. Today, they voted for a banker so they can keep killing French kids while he destroys Europeans' homelands"

"Teenage refugees take a break from standing in welfare line to thank Allah for Macron Win"

lol They unsticked the "Congrats to the new president of France truck.jpge "

Wish for terrorist attacks on other countries because they didnt like fem Trump, guys.

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Re: International Politics Thread - Go! Macron V
« Reply #3089 on: May 07, 2017, 05:02:07 PM »
The salt on France24. Amazing.

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Re: International Politics Thread - Go! Macron V
« Reply #3090 on: May 07, 2017, 05:42:57 PM »


:rofl


Dat map tho.


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Re: International Politics Thread - Go! Macron V
« Reply #3091 on: May 07, 2017, 07:04:46 PM »
To note : Weak turnout for a presidential election (74-75%), a lot of white and non compliant votes (4,2 millions) and the Front National nonetheless reached its highest number of absolute votes in any election (over 11m votes, twice the number of her father in 2002 and much better than their recent record in regional elections).

So not everything is rosy in the new MacronLand.
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Re: International Politics Thread - Go! Macron V
« Reply #3092 on: May 07, 2017, 07:21:47 PM »
To note : Weak turnout for a presidential election (74-75%), a lot of white and non compliant votes (4,2 millions) and the Front National nonetheless reached its highest number of absolute votes in any election (over 11m votes, twice the number of her father in 2002 and much better than their recent record in regional elections).

So not everything is rosy in the new MacronLand.

 :shaq2 god, can't you Frenchies just this once be quiet and let us turn your elections into a projection of our domestic politics and culture wars? We're trying to enjoy some schadenfreude here, geez.
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Re: International Politics Thread - Go! Macron V
« Reply #3093 on: May 07, 2017, 08:11:03 PM »
Yeah, the shift will keep coming. Le Pen losing will effectively deter the sentiment as much as killing Pepe the Frog in a comic book will.

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Re: International Politics Thread - Go! Macron V
« Reply #3095 on: May 08, 2017, 02:34:22 AM »


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Re: International Politics Thread - Go! Macron V
« Reply #3096 on: May 08, 2017, 03:37:13 AM »
Dat map tho.


No, this is all wrong, you're supposed to put a picture of Jeb! across it triumphant:

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Re: International Politics Thread - Go! Macron V
« Reply #3097 on: May 08, 2017, 03:49:14 AM »
Stéphane Le Foll, spokesperson for the government (also serving as the Minister for Agriculture) warned his fellow socialists about entering opposition. This comes on the heels of Benoit Hamon stating he would like to see as many local alliances as possible (including with more radical Mélenchonists) to run a single leftist candidate by district in the upcoming parliament elections.

Not really a surprise but I guess it clarifies nicely.
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Re: International Politics Thread - Go! Macron V
« Reply #3098 on: May 08, 2017, 07:32:26 AM »
Your guys' weak turnout is still way stronger than any American election in the past 100+ years

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« Reply #3099 on: May 08, 2017, 09:14:21 AM »
Weird seeing ostensible "nationalists" invest themselves in the domestic politics of other countries.

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Re: International Politics Thread - Go! Macron V
« Reply #3100 on: May 08, 2017, 10:04:36 AM »
Your guys' weak turnout is still way stronger than any American election in the past 100+ years

Of course, weak relative to the other occurences of this very election. In absolute terms "La Présidentielle" has been enduringly popular with voters, that's one thing I have to recognize even as a believer that the constitution should be rewritten and the balance altered in favor of parliament. For most of the other type of elections here, turnout is much more depressed and in line with the norm elsewhere.

Macron will officially enter office next Sunday. He already has ideas for his prime minister. For a while, a wild rumor said former head of the big CEO association Laurence Parisot may be in the run but the more serious musings mention lesser known politicians.
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« Reply #3101 on: May 08, 2017, 10:07:30 AM »
Did trump call to congratulate yet?
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« Reply #3102 on: May 08, 2017, 12:53:47 PM »
Musings from a Le Pen admirer:

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I was given -- before I even knew why I was there, who I had spoken to, what anybody was doing there, I was given a t-shirt and then everyone was equipped with these rather tragic looking flags to wave. And it became very choreographed, very scripted. It was almost like a whiff of propaganda about it. Every time the TV crews came to the party at the Louvre they wave their flags madly like they were told to do. And it just felt very curious.

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There was nothing kind of authentic about it like we see with the Trump election or for us with Brexit.

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I would say that the second person, the person that came second was not Marine Le Pen. It was the 14 million voters who chose to abstain or spoil their ballot paper rather than vote for Macron. I would also say that of the 20 million people that voted for Macron, they weren't really voting for Macron necessarily.

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He's married to someone old enough to be his gran, who found him when he was at school age 15.

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He's never had a real job. He doesn't have any children. He doesn't have a proper family so he doesn't connect with people.

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It took me two or three blocks before I found a woman and found a white person.

https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2017/05/08/racist-daily-mail-columnist-fox-friends-laments-le-pen-losing-loss-europe/216325
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Re: International Politics Thread - Go! Macron V
« Reply #3103 on: May 08, 2017, 01:33:44 PM »
Can we talk about female privilege and why no one is calling Macron's wife a predator. 
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« Reply #3104 on: May 08, 2017, 03:10:51 PM »
I think we need a little bit of context WRT the "omg lowest turnout in decades" headlines.


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« Reply #3105 on: May 08, 2017, 06:00:05 PM »
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« Reply #3107 on: May 09, 2017, 04:50:05 AM »
I think we need a little bit of context WRT the "omg lowest turnout in decades" headlines.

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If you include spoiled ballots turnout looks worse:


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« Reply #3108 on: May 09, 2017, 07:50:58 AM »
read that as white/spoiled brats

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« Reply #3109 on: May 09, 2017, 09:55:15 AM »
Manuel Valls, former Socialist Prime Minister of Hollande, went to the press today to claim loudly he will run in the upcoming legislative election as "a member of the President's majority".
Macron's party was quick to issue a statement that Valls had to follow procedure first to be considered (only a day left to submit oneself as a potential candidate for the party), something he apparently hasn't done. They didn't close the door shut but they are probably cautious of not being outright seen as a new home for the old establishment.

Those fuckers backstabbed their own candidate, ravaged their party and now expect to get front row seats just for changing labels.

Edit : Still wants to keep his Socialist card too, despite saying it's dead.  :lol

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« Reply #3110 on: May 10, 2017, 11:45:50 AM »
As one would have expected, the french political world is upside down with Macron's election and it's the start of an intense transfer season up to the National Assembly election.

- The spokesperson for "La République en Marche" (the just renamed Macron's party, formerly "En Marche !") jokingly said they discover themselves new friends everyday since Sunday.

- Fillon went to the shadows and right wing Les Républicains decided to give a chance to François Baroin, once a baby face youthful prospect (looking more and more like the kids from Akira as he got old) now one of the last backbench warmers they have left. Press says the LR party rubbed the most extreme Fillonist proposals from the platform in order to distance themselves and to appeal more to their center. Just like Socialists, you got people willing to be part of Macron's majority, others taking the cautious way of not advocating systematic opposition, and those who wants to declare opposition to the new President ASAP. Among those willing to sacrifice themselves for a Ministry office you can count Bruno Le Maire, one of the runners in the right wing primary.

- Socialists are likewise in disarray. To follow up on my previous post, Macron's "movement" (let's just say party now) stated that Valls did not follow the procedure to be endorsed as a candidate but they might make a "political judgement" down the road. The Socialist 1st Secretary said Valls was under internal reviewing but later specified it's an old procedure for when he actually said he supported Macron during the campaign. The PS also scrubbed some of Hamon's talking point from their platform without any congress or consultation.
Several "internal movements" are being founded as we speak (an "humanist one" helmed by Paris and Lille mayors, Anne Hidalgo & Martine Aubry), notably by Hamon who wants a "transparty association" within the PS. Party Civil War incoming.
Also to note : the Socialist-Green deal for the presidency also encompasses the upcoming election, with districts distributed among partners.

- Marion Maréchal-Le Pen, MP and niece of Marine Le Pen, is "withdrawing from political life". What it means for the clan-like Front National is still unclear though it is certainly a blow as she was a rather popular figure. She was held as the head of a more radical line within the party. Apparently the Front National is a bit let down by the results and secretly hoped they could get 40% or more. But they sadly might still rebound as some political pundits believe they can win up to 100 seats maybe (while they currently hold 2 and maybe had half a dozen MPs in their whole existence).

- Jean-Luc Mélenchon is gonna run in the upcoming election, maybe in Marseille. Pierre Laurent, the Communist 1st Secretary, is being vocal that he regrets that no formal deal has been agreed upon. If you read some of my previous posts, Mélenchon and the PCF have been frienemy partners for quite some years now. The Communists knows they must ride Mélenchon's wave but they fear (probably rightly) of being swallowed whole by the ogre. It would not be above him to run a "France Insoumise" candidate in the very last PCF holdouts...

Also it's only my hot take (I'm not intensely submerged) but if you're curious regarding the leaked e-mails from Macron influence : It was a total nothing burger, I think most citizens didn't care at all and not just because it was a late release or the lack of coverage (French media is very mindful of the interests of the State, a bit too much in fact). Voting against the National Front has been imbued as a high moral and republican duty (even if that Pavlovian teaching is weakening) and there was not a whole lot that would have impressed voters in a campaign mired in the actual scandals involving Fillon and Le Pen. Macron is not the most popular type but considering how short and meteoric his actual politician career is at this point, there's no deep-seated prejudice held against him even for those who don't have sympathy for his program.
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Re: International Politics Thread - Go! Macron V
« Reply #3111 on: May 10, 2017, 12:18:59 PM »


I'm convinced 99.9% of Putin's time is organizing these elaborate media setups that are supposed to be like "caught in the act" events.

The rest of the time is obviously his personally creating the poisons for any regime dissidents.

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« Reply #3112 on: May 10, 2017, 04:30:12 PM »
Is he wearing a suit under that Hockey (?) gear?

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« Reply #3114 on: May 13, 2017, 08:53:54 AM »
Does their government still want to ban encryption?

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« Reply #3115 on: May 13, 2017, 11:36:10 AM »
The man, known online as MalwareTech, was analysing the code behind the malware on Friday night when he made his discovery.

He first noticed that the malware was trying to contact an unusual web address - iuqerfsodp9ifjaposdfjhgosurijfaewrwergwea.com - but this address was not connected to a website, because nobody had registered it.

So, every time the malware tried to contact the mysterious website, it failed - and then set about doing its damage.

MalwareTech decided to spend £8.50 and claim the web address. By owning the web address, he could also access analytical data and get an idea of how widespread the ransomware was.

Owning the web address let MalwareTech monitor where infections were happening

But he later realised that registering the web address had also stopped the malware trying to spread itself.

"It was actually partly accidental," he told the BBC.

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« Reply #3117 on: May 17, 2017, 01:51:53 AM »
you know how most Yuropean countries have a "cordon sanitaire" against fascist-lite parties and in the past stalinist-communist parties where everybody agrees they won't do a coalition with them and at best only accept their supply support, etc.

so i was readin about italian politics

i know but stay with me here

from what i can best understand the parties that were placed in this position for nearly 50 years essentially just renamed themselves and formed up like a regular political party instead of waiting for the signal from Moscow or Mussolini's grave to start the revolution and now it's all cool, especially as the old dudes die off or are made President :lol

this guy from their once cordoned off fascist-lite party:
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During his time as national secretary, he confirmed the MSI’s role as the inheritors of Benito Mussolini’s Fascist legacy with a number of famous polemical statements, including: "Dear comrades, MSI claims its right to refer to fascism" (1988), "We are fascists, the heirs of fascism, the fascism of the year 2000" (1991), "After almost half a century, the idea of fascism is alive" (1992), "There are phases where freedom is not among the key values" (1994), "Mussolini was the greatest Italian statesman of the twentieth century", "Fascism has a tradition of honesty, correctness and good government" (1994).
after they renamed got to become minister of foreign affairs and then president of their lower house because sure, why not, it was totally a phase rite

the best part is both the fascist-lite party and the Stalinist-lite Communist party when they renamed themselves put their old logo in their new logos so nobody else could use them and claim to be successor parties because of some quirk in italian political law

also i totally forgot that Mussolini was such a baby

dudes that want to over throw him: hey, we know the war is going poorly and all but you should totally convene that council that you and only you can
mussolini: sure, why not, i'm sure you guys just want me to cheer you up like i did hitler who totally didn't yell at me for two hours about how useless i was and send me away
dudes: haha, we voted and you're exiled, we're in charge now and we're gonna be allies with the US
mussolini: okay :fbm

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« Reply #3118 on: May 17, 2017, 04:20:19 AM »
Radio Yerevan was asked: Is it true that Hillary Clinton lost the presidential election because she did not campaign in Wisconsin?

Radio Yerevan answered: In principle, yes, but Emmanuel Macron also did not campaign in Wisconsin.

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« Reply #3119 on: May 17, 2017, 09:14:15 AM »
So the Macron government was announced (was supposed to be yesterday, but they got delayed with tax / conflict of interest clearances).

Of note:
- Parity achieved, that was one of their promises. Not particularly shocking, it's been the case a few times. Notable ones: Culture, Defense, Employment, Health, Research all went to women.
- Quite a few "who the fuck is that", particularly women.
- Bayrou got Justice.
- Laura Flessel (former professional fencer, still holds the all-time record for number of olympic medals) got sports.
- Nicolas Hulot, more or less a french Extreeeeeeeeeeeme Attenborough, got Ecology. He's been asked multiple times in the past, but always refused.
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