Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo

[Leadbelly]

Actually, I should point out because I never did in my other post: Classical liberalism is referring mainly to the brand of liberalism in the UK. The sort of John Stuart Mill liberalism.

[Kara]

there is a devastating burn that I have refrained from using because it would hurt leadbelly too much

If it's about Patek Philippe references being horribly dated haute horlogerie then I feel you.

[Leadbelly]

there is a devastating burn that I have refrained from using because it would hurt leadbelly too much

If it's about Patek Philippe references being horribly dated haute horlogerie then I feel you.

I imagine the date works perfectly fine on a Patek Philippe watch. I don't know what you're talking about.

[Mandark]

Actually, I should point out because I never did in my other post: Classical liberalism is referring mainly to the brand of liberalism in the UK. The sort of John Stuart Mill liberalism.

so like colonizing india and whatnot

[Leadbelly]

Actually, I should point out because I never did in my other post: Classical liberalism is referring mainly to the brand of liberalism in the UK. The sort of John Stuart Mill liberalism.

so like colonizing india and whatnot

It tends to be anglocentric. So when Jordan Peterson talks about classical liberalism for instance, it is generally anglocentric.

That said, ultimately it just stems from a basic idea: the freedom of the individual. As obviously 'liber' simply mean 'free'. Free man. That's all it is. Where as modern day liberalism, in many ways is illiberal. It is anti-freedom of the individual.

[Mandark]

That said, ultimately it just stems from a basic idea: the freedom of the individual.

but not so much for the indian individual

[Leadbelly]

That said, ultimately it just stems from a basic idea: the freedom of the individual.

but not so much for the indian individual

Obviously I'm not going to take this bait. You have to try a bit harder than that.

[agrajag]

there is a devastating burn that I have refrained from using because it would hurt leadbelly too much

If it's about Patek Philippe references being horribly dated haute horlogerie then I feel you.

how is a proletarian so well versed in luxury wristwear?

[Leadbelly]

edit scratch that.

[agrajag]

I think there is a 't' on the end of that word, not an 'n'.

noun
1.
a member of the proletariat.
synonyms:   working-class person, worker, working person, plebeian, commoner, ordinary person, man/woman/person in the street; More

any further questions?

[Leadbelly]

I think there is a 't' on the end of that word, not an 'n'.

noun
1.
a member of the proletariat.
synonyms:   working-class person, worker, working person, plebeian, commoner, ordinary person, man/woman/person in the street; More

any further questions?

Edited before you posted.

[Mandark]

"current so-called liberalism is anti-freedom, we use the term classical liberalism to refer to the real stuff"

"then we should talk about how those classic liberals actually operated during their lifetimes"

"no that would be trolling"

[agrajag]

I think there is a 't' on the end of that word, not an 'n'.

noun
1.
a member of the proletariat.
synonyms:   working-class person, worker, working person, plebeian, commoner, ordinary person, man/woman/person in the street; More

any further questions?

Edited before you posted.

That doesn't absolve you, it just shows your cowardice in trying to cover your tracks, bud. 

[Leadbelly]

"current so-called liberalism is anti-freedom, we use the term classical liberalism to refer to the real stuff"

"then we should talk about how those classic liberals actually operated during their lifetimes"

"no that would be trolling"

Oh you were being serious?

It's sort of pointless... It's kind of like talking about the founding principles of the United States and saying we must talk about slavery.

[shosta]

 

[Leadbelly]

I think there is a 't' on the end of that word, not an 'n'.

noun
1.
a member of the proletariat.
synonyms:   working-class person, worker, working person, plebeian, commoner, ordinary person, man/woman/person in the street; More

any further questions?

Edited before you posted.

That doesn't absolve you, it just shows your cowardice in trying to cover your tracks, bud. 

No. I have admitted a number of times on these forums when I get things wrong.

Edit: Also what would be the point of needlessly carrying on a disagreement about a word? It's not like I presented a whole argument that is fundamentally flawed and tried to cover my tracks.

[curly]

Oh you were being serious?

It's sort of pointless... It's kind of like talking about the founding principles of the United States and saying we must talk about slavery.

lol

[agrajag]

I think there is a 't' on the end of that word, not an 'n'.

noun
1.
a member of the proletariat.
synonyms:   working-class person, worker, working person, plebeian, commoner, ordinary person, man/woman/person in the street; More

any further questions?

Edited before you posted.

That doesn't absolve you, it just shows your cowardice in trying to cover your tracks, bud. 

No. I have admitted a number of times on these forums when I get things wrong.

Edit: Also what would be the point of needlessly carrying on a disagreement about a word? It's not like I presented a whole argument that is fundementally flawed and tried to cover my tracks.

If it's fair game for you to try to point out my incorrect usage of word, it's fair game for me to DESTROY you with facts and logic. 

[Leadbelly]

I think there is a 't' on the end of that word, not an 'n'.

noun
1.
a member of the proletariat.
synonyms:   working-class person, worker, working person, plebeian, commoner, ordinary person, man/woman/person in the street; More

any further questions?

Edited before you posted.

That doesn't absolve you, it just shows your cowardice in trying to cover your tracks, bud. 

No. I have admitted a number of times on these forums when I get things wrong.

Edit: Also what would be the point of needlessly carrying on a disagreement about a word? It's not like I presented a whole argument that is fundementally flawed and tried to cover my tracks.

If it's fair game for you to try to point out my incorrect usage of word, it's fair game for me to DESTROY you with facts and logic. 

Fair enough.

[Mandark]

It's sort of pointless... It's kind of like talking about the founding principles of the United States and saying we must talk about slavery.

I mean, yes?

[Leadbelly]

It's sort of pointless... It's kind of like talking about the founding principles of the United States and saying we must talk about slavery.

I mean, yes?

Does it mean the principles are wrong?

[Mandark]

I think chattel slavery is wrong, yes.

[Leadbelly]

Do you believe in the principle that humans should be endowed with certain unalienable rights?

[Mandark]

Isn't discussing the contradictions in the liberal intellectual tradition (from the left and right) pretty much the point of this entire thread?

It used to be about bullying Assimilate into reading Settlers Maps of Meaning.

[Mandark]

Do you believe in the principle that humans should be endowed with certain unalienable rights?

I don't think people have the right to own slaves, no.

[Leadbelly]

Right so, you have to dodge the question instead. There you go. You know the answer. :p

Edit: okay I am bored of this now. Might as well post your random tweets that you do.

[Mandark]

Right so, you have to dodge the question instead. There you go. You know the answer. :p

do you think workers should have the surplus value of their labor stolen away from them?

[shosta]

This is cyber bullying.

[Kara]

there is a devastating burn that I have refrained from using because it would hurt leadbelly too much

If it's about Patek Philippe references being horribly dated haute horlogerie then I feel you.

how is a proletarian so well versed in luxury wristwear?

I had a rage post about service times and their biggest news at Baselworld 2019 being a khaki green dial Aquanaut with a white gold case before I just closed the tab in disgust.

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Strictly speaking I'm petit bourgeois but the distinction between "petit bourgeois who directly sells their labor" and a proletarian is murky, if not artificial.

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[Leadbelly]

Oh is that what it is. It just comes across like a series of dumb questions.


No, what i really mean is...I...errr...feel really hard done by. Yeah... <.< >.>

[Leadbelly]

I would be more impressed if it wasn't copy pasta.

[agrajag]

is that because Mandark read Settlers?

[shosta]

I would be more impressed if it wasn't copy pasta.

it's not copypasta, it's Lenin

[Leadbelly]

I would be more impressed if it wasn't copy pasta.

it's not copypasta, it's Lenin

Should have been someone a little more obscure like Harry Haywood. You'd get hipster brownie points then.

[Mandark]

And after all of that I'm still gonna think it was important to pass the ACA. In my heart of hearts I'll probably always be a vaguely utilitarian softy.

[Mandark]

browning points

[Leadbelly]

Oh actually 'brownie' points i mean.

[Mandark]

buddy I love you

[team filler]

 

[agrajag]

someone's feeling jealous

[Leadbelly]

Filler gives me likes when I am feeling lonely.

[Kara]

Is calling Assimilate the liberal professor a deep cut to the liberal trucker meme?

Should the classical liberal trucker be a meme for this thread?

[agrajag]

Filler gives me likes when I am feeling lonely.

filler is basically the social safety net in the Bire's like economy

[Leadbelly]

Filler gives me likes when I am feeling lonely.

filler is basically the social safety net in the Bire's like economy

He's like Tom from MySpace.

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I wonder how many people will get that reference

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[agrajag]

Filler gives me likes when I am feeling lonely.

filler is basically the social safety net in the Bire's like economy

He's like Tom from MySpace.

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I wonder how many people will get that reference

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I was very active in the Myspace forums circa 2002ish

[Oblivion]

I don't like identity politics. I don't subscribe to it.

Yes..we know this. The issue is that you're obsessed with that shit.

And so in threads like this it is more likely to be videos like that. Which is what the thread was intended for, no? The continuation of wank dad?

Except that when we post articles/tweets from/about them, we do so in order to mock them, whereas you post to praise them.

And lack of respect for whom?

For pretty much everyone in this thread. You come struttin' in here all like 'how do you do, fellow leftists?" and proceed to post shit like a video of stefan molyneux talking about how black people have low IQs and going 'now, i don't agree with everything said here, but he's so eloquent and you gotta admit, it's a pretty interesting discussion!".

and when you're called out on this bullshit, you insist you're not that different from anyone here. sure, you would LIKE to have the workers seize the means of production some day, but not before people like linda sarsour and anita sarkeesian are imprisoned first.

[Leadbelly]

Filler gives me likes when I am feeling lonely.

filler is basically the social safety net in the Bire's like economy

He's like Tom from MySpace.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I wonder how many people will get that reference

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I was very active in the Myspace forums circa 2002ish

Oh. I wasn't, but I remember making a Myspace account and automatically get a friend and wondering who the fuck it was. lol

[shosta]

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[agrajag]

Filler gives me likes when I am feeling lonely.

filler is basically the social safety net in the Bire's like economy

He's like Tom from MySpace.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I wonder how many people will get that reference

[close]

I was very active in the Myspace forums circa 2002ish

Oh. I wasn't, but I remember making a Myspace account and automatically get a friend and wondering who the fuck it was. lol

he was the grand daddy of like farming

but seriously, myspace had legitimately underrated forums. It had a robust atheist community, which was my bag in my late teens/early 20's

[Leadbelly]

I don't like identity politics. I don't subscribe to it.

Yes..we know this. The issue is that you're obsessed with that shit.

And so in threads like this it is more likely to be videos like that. Which is what the thread was intended for, no? The continuation of wank dad?

Except that when we post articles/tweets from/about them, we do so in order to mock them, whereas you post to praise them.

And lack of respect for whom?

For pretty much everyone in this thread. You come struttin' in here all like 'how do you do, fellow leftists?" and proceed to post shit like a video of stefan molyneux talking about how black people have low IQs and going 'now, i don't agree with everything said here, but he's so eloquent and you gotta admit, it's a pretty interesting discussion!".

and when you're called out on this bullshit, you insist you're not that different from anyone here. sure, you would LIKE to have the workers seize the means of production some day, but not before people like linda sarsour and anita sarkeesian are imprisoned first.

I've never posted a Stefan Molyneux video.

Why is it when people describe someone they have to exaggerate to make them appear like a complete cunt? It's not just you, people tend to do that. That's particularly true when you're young though.

I would suggest, which you probably won't do, going back and looking at the videos I've posted and seeing exactly how many are what you think they are. Ultimately though, I listen to many different channels and personalities, and like most people, I gravitate to some more than others. So they will always be of a certain flavour. None obviously will be particularly 'woke'.

[agrajag]

I think this whole kerfuffle is mostly due to your inability to read the room tbh

[Leadbelly]

I guess...

However, it appeared to be a continuation of the previous thread, which was kind of about those types of videos. So in my mind I am on topic.

[Oblivion]

Oh and to be clear, Leadbelly, I'm not saying that you shouldn't post that stuff in here, or that you're not allowed to dissent.

Go ahead, do all that. It's actually more fun when people argue. I'm just saying stop trying to pretend that you're somebody you're not. You wanna post a contrarian take or defend one of the wank dads/moms, go for it. but don't try to distract by going 'hey hold on guys, you might think i have shitty opinions, but i have GOOD ones (that i'll almost never post) that you might agree with as well!"

[agrajag]

I guess...

However, it appeared to be a continuation of the previous thread, which was kind of about those types of videos. So in my mind I am on topic.

I think that it's quite clear that the thread has long moved on from its original dynamic, which was basically Etiolate stanning for Daddy P vs. everyone else. The shift has started around the time he was permanently banned from the forum. His disciple Assimilate tried to half-heartedly carry on his legacy, until his own demise. But hey, it seems you are ready and willing to take up Etiolate's mantle.

[OnlyRegret]

I guess...

However, it appeared to be a continuation of the previous thread, which was kind of about those types of videos. So in my mind I am on topic.

I think that it's quite clear that the thread has long moved on from its original dynamic, which was basically Etiolate stanning for Daddy P vs. everyone else. The shift has started around the time he was permanently banned from the forum. His disciple Assimilate tried to half-heartedly carry on his legacy, until his own demise. But hey, it seems you are ready and willing to take up Etiolate's mantle.

[Mandark]

to defend leadbelly, his pattern of making bad posts then complaining when people roast him is very much in line with the spirit of this thread and its op

[Leadbelly]

Oh and to be clear, Leadbelly, I'm not saying that you shouldn't post that stuff in here, or that you're not allowed to dissent.

Go ahead, do all that. It's actually more fun when people argue. I'm just saying stop trying to pretend that you're somebody you're not. You wanna post a contrarian take or defend one of the wank dads/moms, go for it. but don't try to distract by going 'hey hold on guys, you might think i have shitty opinions, but i have GOOD ones (that i'll almost never post) that you might agree with as well!"

I will argue that this is just a perception. Funny enough, I never actually thought I was dissenting as much as you think. The RE thread never gives me that impression. So the idea I am just coming in here just to fuck with you with contrarian viewpoints is not actually true. Although, I have become more aware of that through interacting. But initially that wasn't my intention. Neither do I actually explain a lot what I have posted, I have just posted it. So the 'hold on guys' is actually in your head. You're guessing my intention in posting what I post.

Weirdly, the one video I have written something was the Katie Hopkins one. And that pretty  much is the only one I think. And that actually suggests something. That the reason I felt I needed to say something was a preemption of how it might be received.

[shosta]

I think that it's quite clear that the thread has long moved on from its original dynamic, which was basically Etiolate stanning for Daddy P vs. everyone else. The shift has started around the time he was permanently banned from the forum. His disciple Assimilate tried to half-heartedly carry on his legacy, until his own demise. But hey, it seems you are ready and willing to take up Etiolate's mantle.

rewriting history in my favor

[Mandark]

The fate of the Bore's Peterson stans:

etiolate: repeatedly uploaded his folder of starving children pics to The Bore to commit digital suicide, has yet to break open Seth Rich case.

hungrynoob: slowly drifted from JP's philosophy of masculine healing crystals to being a full-blown Qanon follower, seems to be shifting towards more normie rightwing talking points.

Assimilate: 15 year old girls talking about intersectional feminism on their Supernatural fandom tumblr blogs forced him to support Bolsonaro and to stay in a loveless relationship. As far as we know, is still eluding the liberal truckers' plots against his life.

Shostakovich: There are whispers that he once defended Peterson, but all his posts from that era have been sealed by an aggressive campaign of DMCA complaints. When asked recently about women wearing red lipstick at work he responded "it's probably fine" with a barely noticeable facial tic.

[Leadbelly]

Oblivion, this is the video I posted prior the Katie Hopkins one.
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45681.msg2672508#msg2672508

I mentioned nothing about it, you'll notice, I just posted it. This is what I have done for most of my videos. I can't recall when I last actually made a comment about it. I probably have, it is just not often. This is my usual posting habit. And just as a point of detail, neither of these people are right wing either, they are both left wing. However, the topic of discussion is very similar to other videos I post.