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« Reply #2220 on: August 17, 2019, 05:44:12 PM »

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« Reply #2221 on: August 17, 2019, 09:46:54 PM »
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« Reply #2223 on: August 17, 2019, 10:45:29 PM »
he reteweeted this tweet for some reason:

https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1162730996132921345

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« Reply #2224 on: August 18, 2019, 01:21:12 AM »
benji-kun! you live!  :rejoice

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« Reply #2225 on: August 18, 2019, 01:34:30 AM »
He had to lay low for a bit after the Epstein hit.

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« Reply #2226 on: August 18, 2019, 10:16:11 AM »


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« Reply #2227 on: August 18, 2019, 05:50:05 PM »
Conservatives reacting to the NYT 1619 Project:

It's sort of pointless... It's kind of like talking about the founding principles of the United States and saying we must talk about slavery.

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« Reply #2228 on: August 19, 2019, 08:48:55 AM »
The "white people don't get enough credit for ending slavery" argument is just... :dead
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« Reply #2229 on: August 19, 2019, 09:18:26 AM »
Wouldn't slavery as a concept been pretty prominent, at least as a concept, in the discussions of the founders of the USA ? The US regalia draws from the same greco-roman imagery that was similarly popular in Europe and AFAIK a lot of the discussion for French thinkers of the time was basically how Athens and / or Sparta minus the unsavoury slavery were the absolute best models for a Republic.
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« Reply #2230 on: August 19, 2019, 10:34:58 AM »
The "white people don't get enough credit for ending slavery" argument is just... :dead

Won't someone please think of the white people. :noah
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« Reply #2231 on: August 19, 2019, 10:40:25 AM »
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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
« Reply #2232 on: August 19, 2019, 01:07:48 PM »
the NYT 1619 Project
I'm just going to assume this is related to what Neil Gaiman already did for Marvel with 1602 :hmph

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« Reply #2233 on: August 19, 2019, 06:43:48 PM »
:dead fuck

https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/1163244127334670336

miss the days of having race neutral discussions on the civil war

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« Reply #2236 on: August 20, 2019, 12:20:01 AM »
seeing that youtube account made me google you
I found this, this is you now as far as I'm concerned

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« Reply #2237 on: August 20, 2019, 12:23:55 AM »
The "white people don't get enough credit for ending slavery" argument is just... :dead

Hot take: it's a tricky thing but I think it's not exactly wrong, and it goes beyond slavery.  If we look at British attitudes towards colonialism post-war, I think there is a pretty significant factor of white people rejecting colonialism of the right reasons (instead of say rejecting it because it leads to London being full of Indians).  I also think that this is significant in why India was less like how France* treated its colonies post-war.  For a more modern example,  look at how a lot of white men are using their power now to support women and non-white people in entertainment.  It's also why a lot of liberals white people can laugh at white-people-are-awful, because in our heads, (and of course this is not always correct) we think 'they mean those other white people - the bad ones'.  There are a lot of white men who are allied to people who have been and are discriminated against, and that is an important part of the story that is hard to tell without it seeming like white men taking credit for minority achievements.  The issue then because that a lot of liberal white people quietly think this but its not a part of the open narrative which conservative people view as a rejection of this. 

* super hot take:  The French are not white and may not be human. 
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« Reply #2238 on: August 20, 2019, 12:24:45 AM »
seeing that youtube account made me google you
I found this, this is you now as far as I'm concerned

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yeah this night was pretty fun.. shes a really great listener
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« Reply #2239 on: August 20, 2019, 12:30:25 AM »
put a fork in it, the notorious benjamin"benji"netanyahupwns has been doxxed




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« Reply #2240 on: August 20, 2019, 12:33:44 AM »
you were a part of the vermont university academic material btw
https://www.uvm.edu/pdodds/teaching/courses/2018-01UVM-303/assignments/02/

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« Reply #2241 on: August 20, 2019, 12:35:22 AM »
Why do we keep doxxing benji in this specific thread? :doge
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« Reply #2242 on: August 20, 2019, 12:52:16 AM »
you were a part of the vermont university academic material btw
https://www.uvm.edu/pdodds/teaching/courses/2018-01UVM-303/assignments/02/

hope you were fairly compensated

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« Reply #2244 on: August 20, 2019, 01:33:49 AM »
Why do we keep doxxing benji in this specific thread? :doge

those who forget history.... are doomed to repeat it,,,,

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« Reply #2246 on: August 20, 2019, 04:05:58 AM »


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« Reply #2247 on: August 20, 2019, 06:55:56 AM »
The "white people don't get enough credit for ending slavery" argument is just... :dead

Hot take: it's a tricky thing but I think it's not exactly wrong, and it goes beyond slavery.  If we look at British attitudes towards colonialism post-war, I think there is a pretty significant factor of white people rejecting colonialism of the right reasons (instead of say rejecting it because it leads to London being full of Indians).  I also think that this is significant in why India was less like how France* treated its colonies post-war.  For a more modern example,  look at how a lot of white men are using their power now to support women and non-white people in entertainment.  It's also why a lot of liberals white people can laugh at white-people-are-awful, because in our heads, (and of course this is not always correct) we think 'they mean those other white people - the bad ones'.  There are a lot of white men who are allied to people who have been and are discriminated against, and that is an important part of the story that is hard to tell without it seeming like white men taking credit for minority achievements.  The issue then because that a lot of liberal white people quietly think this but its not a part of the open narrative which conservative people view as a rejection of this. 

* super hot take:  The French are not white and may not be human.

Brits : really our downfall was being too good.

I suppose abolitionists get to get some credit. And some European nations, notably the UK, were fairly proactive after the turned their back on slavery. I think there's some value to the argument that European and by extension "Western" societies managed to incorporate over centuries its own self reflection and criticism and see considerable progress because of it. But that need to be said with some tact because while it's good, it does not by itself right past wrongs. The gross part is reducing it all to just a "White" story with no agency granted to everyone else (though ironically, some of the most virulent voices claiming to speak for the oppressed will do just that).

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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
« Reply #2248 on: August 20, 2019, 08:27:16 AM »
Dunno about y'all but I love to see the abolition of slavery and colonialism as the products of European benevolence and not as the transition to more suitable forms of domination like wage-labor and imperial monopoly-capital (both of which are also enforced with guns, extra-national ruling bodies and blockades). And certainly not as cagey measures to prevent the reoccurrence of Haiti or 1917.

Hence the comments about agency for other actors (and by extension factors). You're the one projecting "benevolence" here at least as far as my post is concerned when I don't make such claims. You're free to interpret that shift under a materialist lens or a matter of political expediency.
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« Reply #2249 on: August 20, 2019, 08:47:23 AM »
I agreed with your post which is why I liked it :(

I saw the like after, yeah but I was writing already and I didn't want to the World to not see my very important post.

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« Reply #2250 on: August 20, 2019, 11:41:03 AM »
But that need to be said with some tact because while it's good, it does not by itself right past wrongs. The gross part is reducing it all to just a "White" story with no agency granted to everyone else (though ironically, some of the most virulent voices claiming to speak for the oppressed will do just that).

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Ya, that's the point I was trying to make and you said it better.  I meant that (certain groups of) white people go under-credited (in lefty circles) because it's hard to state without seemingly turning it into a white man's story.  I think this self-reflection and criticism is an important aspect to a lot of social changes and should be part of the open narrative.  I also think it already is part of the narrative for a lot of left white people, just not openly talked about which is not good for a lot of reasons.   


Since you mentioned it, I think this is separate from the issue of righting wrongs, which is also super tricky though - you can have a story that says that people both benefited from something terrible while were also actively trying to fix that thing.  The fact that there were white abolitionists and that now no white society will tolerate slavery (as it was 150 years ago) doesn't right a wrong and it never will if you think of righting a wrong in a complete sense - rather you can see it as righting the wrongs that may have been done to people hypothetically had slavery continued. 

If you think about it in terms of righting wrongs I think it leads to a strange perspective.  Like you can say that all white Americans benefited, and still benefit from slavery (and really Canadian's and Europeans as well) and thus have some kind of culpability but in a lot of ways that culpability is very indirect.  This leads to the question, so at what point does a change in their beliefs or actions overtake their culpability?  I'm not sure that's a valid question.   A specific example of this would be that anti-slavery sentiment in the UK made it so that politically the UK couldn't enter the war to help the confederates.  To frame this a question about the UK righting wrongs is not valid yet I think its an important part of the story (and the fact that you can say that white people in the UK prevented white people in the UK speaks to the fact that white people aren't really a homogeneous group*).  I think there is a comparison to be made with climate change where everyone one is a sinner but don't have the thought right now.

*For example, the French have 2% extraterrestrial DNA. 

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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
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« Reply #2252 on: August 20, 2019, 01:39:23 PM »
tfw you forget the siege of Leningrad :cat
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« Reply #2254 on: August 20, 2019, 02:05:19 PM »
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« Reply #2255 on: August 20, 2019, 02:19:40 PM »
https://twitter.com/ModalSevenths/status/1163772630266048513

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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
« Reply #2256 on: August 20, 2019, 03:48:56 PM »
Why the fuck does benjipwns shapiro have 3000 shit burgers?

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« Reply #2257 on: August 20, 2019, 03:54:50 PM »
I really don't get it, what's the point of that picture? Yay capitalism?

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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
« Reply #2258 on: August 20, 2019, 03:58:12 PM »
i assume copying daddy trump? there was a good period where these dopes suddenly all loved mcdonalds because of donny


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« Reply #2259 on: August 20, 2019, 04:10:07 PM »
Okay, I'm even more curious know, wtf is orange man doing with 3000 crap burgers :/

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« Reply #2260 on: August 20, 2019, 04:15:47 PM »
Momo, it was because some sportsball team won some big tournament or whatever and trump invited them to the whitehouse to celebrate.

i assume copying daddy trump? there was a good period where these dopes suddenly all loved mcdonalds because of donny

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Chuds have always liked McDonalds.
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« Reply #2261 on: August 20, 2019, 06:04:37 PM »
listen lets not get too crazy here folks :badass mcnuggets and a big mac are still good once in a while

i'm just not trying to make it an identity

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« Reply #2262 on: August 20, 2019, 06:06:02 PM »
the real question is why so many filet o fish

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« Reply #2263 on: August 20, 2019, 07:58:40 PM »
Okay, I'm even more curious know, wtf is orange man doing with 3000 crap burgers :/
Aside from the above stuff, Trump legitimately does love fast food. KFC is a top favorite.

IIRC, his kids and wives have all hated it. :lol

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« Reply #2264 on: August 20, 2019, 08:01:19 PM »
I love McDonalds but the stuff people do to own the libs is so fucking crazy. The culture war really is brain poison
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« Reply #2265 on: August 20, 2019, 08:11:13 PM »
I like McDonalds too.  :obama We truly are the dirtbag left.




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« Reply #2266 on: August 20, 2019, 10:09:43 PM »
mcdonald's   :yuck

kfc   :lawd


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« Reply #2268 on: August 20, 2019, 11:37:05 PM »
benji, I feel like black agency is one of your personal triggers :lol somehow you're still mad about that AA history course you took in college.
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« Reply #2269 on: August 20, 2019, 11:42:49 PM »
AMERICA'S PROFESSOR OF HISTORY SHUTS DOWN THE LIES



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« Reply #2271 on: August 21, 2019, 01:47:27 AM »
voted yes

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« Reply #2272 on: August 21, 2019, 02:10:29 AM »
Holy shit, Stefan has a whole "documentary" series on how terrible California is.


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« Reply #2273 on: August 21, 2019, 04:22:30 AM »
Molyneux is the new Bernard Henry Levy ? :lol
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« Reply #2274 on: August 22, 2019, 11:08:59 PM »
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1164716990143111168

https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1164669429617233926

i don't even have to really scroll anymore except past his RTs, i just check once a day at his last four tweets and there's always gold

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« Reply #2275 on: August 22, 2019, 11:12:14 PM »
https://notjordanpeterson.com/
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Something very strange and disturbing happened to me this week. If it was just relevant to me, it wouldn’t be that important (except perhaps to me), and I wouldn’t be writing this column about it. But it’s something that is likely more important and more ominous than we can even imagine.

There are already common fraudulent schemes being perpetrated by both telephone and internet. One know as the “Grandparent Scam” is particularly reprehensible, first because it is perpetrated on elderly people who are, in general, more susceptible to tech-savvy criminals and second because it is based on the manipulation of familial love, trust, and compassion. The criminal running the Grandparent Scam calls or emails the victim, pretending to represent a grandchild who is now in trouble with the law or who needs money for a hospital bill for an injury that can’t be discussed, say, with parents, because of the moral trouble that might ensue. They generally call late at night—say at four in the morning—because that adds to the confusion. The preferred mechanism of money movement is wire transfer—and that’s a warning: don’t transfer money by wire without knowing for certain who is receiving it, because once it’s gone, it’s not coming back.

Now what if it was possible to conduct such a scam using the actual voice of the hypothetical victim? Worse, what if was possible to do so with voice and video image, indistinguishable from the real thing? If we’re not at that point now (and we probably are) we will be within months.

In April of this year, a company called Coding Elite exposed an artificial intelligence (AI) program that to a substantial sample of my voice, which is easily accessible on the YouTube lectures and podcasts that I have posted over the last years. In consequence, they were able to duplicate my manner of speaking with exceptional precision, starting out by producing versions of me rapping Eminem songs such as Lose Yourself (which has now garnered 250,000 views) and Rap God (which has only garnered 17,000) as well as Rock Lobster (1400 views). They have done something similar with Bernie Sanders (singing Dancing Queen), Donald Trump (Sweet Dreams) and Ben Shapiro, who also delivered Rap God. The company has a model, the address of which you can find on their YouTube channel, which allows the use to make Trump, Obama, Clinton or Sanders say anything whatsoever.

I happen to think Rap God is an amazing piece of work, and when I first encountered my verbal avatar belting out the lyrics I thought that it was cool, in a teenage tech-geek sort of way. And I suppose it was. This caused quite a stir on the net in April, with media companies such as Forbes and Motherboard (a division of Vice) noting that the machine learning technology only required six hours of original audio (that is, actually generated by me) to produce its credible fakes, matching rhythm, stress, sound and prose intonation.

This week, however, a company called notjordanpeterson.com put an AI engine online that allows anyone to type anything and have it reproduced in my voice. It’s hard to get access to or use the site, at the moment, presumably because it is currently attracting more traffic than its servers can handle.
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And what of the legality of this process? It seems to me that active and aware lawmakers would take immediate steps to make the unauthorized production of AI Deep Fakes a felony offense, at least in the case where the fake is being used to defame, damage or deceive. And it seems to be that we should perhaps throw caution to the wind, and make this an exceptionally wide-ranging law. We need to seriously consider the idea that someone’s voice is an integral part of their identity, of their reality, of their person—and that stealing that voice is a genuinely criminal act, regardless (perhaps) of intent. What’s the alternative? Are we entering a future where the only credible source of information will be direct personal contact? What’s that going to do to mass media, of all types? Why should we not assume that the noise to signal ratio will creep so high that all political and economic information disseminated broadly will be rendered completely untrustworthy?

I can tell you from personal experience, for what that’s worth, that it is far from comforting to discover an entire website devoted to allowing whoever is inspired to do so produce audio clips imitating my voice delivering whatever content the user chooses—for serious, comic or malevolent purposes. I can’t imagine what the world will be like when we will truly be unable to distinguish the real from the unreal, or exercise any control whatsoever on what videos reveal about behaviors we never engaged in, or audio avatars broadcasting any opinion at all about anything at all. I see no defense, and a tremendously expanded opportunity for unscrupulous troublemakers to warp our personal and collective reality in any manner they see fit.

Wake up. The sanctity of your voice, and your image, is at serious risk. It’s hard to imagine a more serious challenge to the sense of shared, reliable reality that keeps us linked together in relative peace. The Deep Fake artists need to be stopped, using whatever legal means are necessary, as soon as possible.

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Unfortunately as I was processing the last part of the lyrics on notjordanpeterson.com, they shut down the service and I was unable to finish the song. The last portion of the song ended up sounding like Jordan was having a grand mal seizure. Maybe it had something to do with them turning everything off while it was processing. It's literally the sound of the website dying.  RIP notjordanpeterson.com.

In light of Dr. Peterson's response to the technology demonstrated by this site, which you can read here, and out of respect for Dr. Peterson, the functionality of the site will be disabled for the time being.

If you'd like to be informed if and when the site is operational again, or be notified when my blog post is published, please use the form below to subscribe to the mailing list (if it doesn't load/work try refreshing the page). You can also find me on Twitter (link below) and participate in the conversation about these technologies.

I will be writing a longer blog post this weekend that will outline my experience building the site, the public's reaction, where I think technologies like this are headed in the coming years, and what are some ways we can adjust to its existence as a society in a net positive way.

I was genuinely overwhelmed by the response to the site, which was only operational for one week. I'm encouraged by the many accounts I received from people who were interested in using this technology in positive ways, and I'm cautiously optimistic that we will be able to use technologies like this for the better, while minimizing their potential harm.

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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
« Reply #2276 on: August 22, 2019, 11:41:40 PM »
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1164716990143111168

Sweet. I just wasted 20 minutes of my life. But at least I got to here Stefan say the word "fap" which got a chuckle out of me.

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« Reply #2277 on: August 23, 2019, 01:21:43 AM »



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Re: Wank Dad 2: Electric Wankaloo
« Reply #2278 on: August 23, 2019, 11:12:27 PM »


The last third is pretty good
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« Reply #2279 on: August 24, 2019, 12:40:17 PM »


A literal wanker appears  8)
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