Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|

[Damian79]

Now show the numbers with the wii and 360 hardware sales.

[Human Snorenado]

About a console you don't even own. So sad.

[Cerveza mas fina]

about a guy posting on the internet

Much sad

[Steve Youngblood]

January 2001 and 2007 were 5 week months btw and all pre the economic downturn.

Haha. Jesus Christ. That this was tacked on as meaningful is just embarrassing.

[Third]

Ps4 was the only platform last month that performed well. And I'm sure it's going to do well this month as well.

Nintendo and MS were distinguished mentally-challenged fellows by including mandatory gimmick shit in their hardware. Gamepad and Kinect are worthless and are only keeping the price high.

Sony's strategy is the best and they're the only relevant player left.. MS is fucked and Nintendo is a lost cause now. This is going to be a looooooooong ass gen for our beloved xturds and ntards. The bitter tears are already pouring.

[Fifstar]

What are the implications of the different pricing structures between the start of this and last gen? Seems like it makes the sitaution even worse for the current gen, as systems overall were more expensive.

PS3 was 500/600$ and 360 was 300/400$

Now PS4 400$ vs XBO 500$


The core 360 was cheaper than any current option but if adjusted for inflation it's close to the price for the PS4. Don't really know how big the impact of the cheaper models was.

Also there was stronger competition from the gen before back then, as the ps2 was a younger product and cheaper than 360/ps3 are now. Although you can see that as a positive if you only look at the "families".

[headwalk]

okay, so if they were selling every unit they could produce and topped out at 270k, what will this month look like now that we're two weeks in and PS4 stock is readily available?

[Joe Molotov]

emotionally invest in toy manufacturers, brehs

.

[Steve Youngblood]

okay, so if they were selling every unit they could produce and topped out at 270k, what will this month look like now that we're two weeks in and PS4 stock is readily available?

Well... it's available at Amazon. So that's something. But to be completely fair, I do notice it still unavailable at some retailers I go to. So, I'm not sure we can completely discount supply constraints. However, I do agree that any supply constraints that do exist are not in any way crippling that sales number. One may not be able to just walk into any store and buy one, but I'd say for a month or so it's been to the point where if you wanted one and were able to put any effort into it, you'd be able to find one before too long.

[Cerveza mas fina]

emotionally invest in pyrrhic victories, brehs

Since were all going to die its all a phyrric victory anyway

[Tasty]

emotionally invest in pyrrhic victories, brehs

Since were all going to die its all a phyrric victory anyway

[Human Snorenado]

Lookout guys, we've got a philosophizer up in hurr

[Shaka Khan]

At least Methodis is capable of being funny and Third is hot.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Lookout guys, we've got a philosophizer up in hurr

Its very hard to treat you seriously liking Esch post about phyrric victories when you grind your life away in games like PAD and D3 in the most basic form of treadmill there is in the gaming industry.

Cog short: like post about phyrric victories, spend 2000 hours on pad and d3

[AdmiralViscen]

Lookout guys, we've got a philosophizer up in hurr

Its very hard to treat you seriously liking Esch post about phyrric victories when you grind your life away in games like PAD and D3 in the most basic form of treadmill there is in the gaming industry.

Cog short: like post about phyrric victories, spend 2000 hours on pad and d3

mad feels son

[Tasty]

Despite all our chores, gaming's still just a rat on the Bore

[Cerveza mas fina]

Its all treadmills. All gaming is is a bunch of exercises in 01010111001000101 hamster wheeling designed to make your pathetic dopamine receptors fire.

If thats all you are interested in might as well get hooked on xtc.

Really fire them, not just tickle.

[Himu]

loool so yeah, last gen this time, 2 million, this gen, less than 770k

where's 360, ps3, 3ds, and wii numbers.

[Mupepe]

I don't care about sales...

Sony's numbers are great because...

[cool breeze]

at this point if someone haven't bought a 'next gen' console I don't know why they would until fall.  not much coming out between now and then.  and the few are 'cross gen' games like metal gear, titanfall and teef.  I remember the 360 having more in its initial months than these two combined.

and how did that tomb raider port do?

[Baiano19]

Its all treadmills. All gaming is is a bunch of exercises in 01010111001000101 hamster wheeling designed to make your pathetic dopamine receptors fire.

damn, this board is getting way too deep.

And yeah, we all have seen the signs, the rapture of console games is coming. and I really find hilarious when people believe the PS4 will be the next PS2.

I for one welcome our new QOL overlord

[AdmiralViscen]

at this point if someone haven't bought a 'next gen' console I don't know why they would until fall.  not much coming out between now and then.  and the few are 'cross gen' games like metal gear, titanfall and teef.  I remember the 360 having more in its initial months than these two combined.

and how did that tomb raider port do?

2:1 PS4 over XBO. It doesn't matter if this is 20:10 or 200,000:100,000.

[Himu]

PS2 (January 2001) - 248K

PS3 (January 2007) - 244K

PS4 (January 2014) - 271K

i'd actually like to see a rebuttal to this

[Third]

You can't really downplay Ps4's performance- it's doing great.

People are already proclaiming the death of console gaming, without thinking about the fact that both Wii U and Xdone are tanking because they're terrible consoles with offensive value.

Both ntards and xfans are so mad and bitter nowadays. They will probably become PC gamers now.

[Baiano19]

actually it was 85k PS4 and Xbox1

so 56k to 29k give or take



lol Esch.

Yeah, next 2 or 3 months will be devastating for some people here.

[Himu]

actually it was 85k PS4 and Xbox1

so 56k to 29k give or take

who are you talking to? Viscen?

[Baiano19]

actually it was 85k PS4 and Xbox1

so 56k to 29k give or take

who are you talking to? Viscen?

yeah,

those are creamsugar number for TR final edition of whatever

[ToxicAdam]

I'm as guilty as anyone else trying to analyze this industry with small sample sizes, but it's actually kind of silly.

Using January sales is like judging Hollywood based on their February movie results. Nov./Dec. 2014 will really be the measuring stick to see the overall trends.

[Himu]

I don't think that is true at all. The numbers are still lower than 2007 and software is still down.

[Fifstar]

PS2 (January 2001) - 248K

PS3 (January 2007) - 244K

PS4 (January 2014) - 271K

i'd actually like to see a rebuttal to this

Average* price of ps3 models was 550$ + about 20% inflation= 660$ (*not really average because I don't know what the actual split between the 20 and 60gb model was)

So ps4 is selling about the same as it's predecessor even though it's 40% cheaper and competition is wildly unattractive.

If you compare it with the Xbox360 because it was the more interesting option in 2007, it's selling a bit less at a slightly lower price point (420$ average* inflation adjusted for the Xbox360.

Taking into account that 2007 was a 5 weeks month and a still likely effect of supply constraint this january, numbers for PS4 look actually respectable.

The other thing is that just because one piece of hardware is selling okay/good it's not evidence that the industry as a whole has a healthy outlook, considering that the numbers for the whole industry are way down GoG.

[Cerveza mas fina]

You are forgetting a few things.

1. Unemployment in the US is 44% higher in january 2014 then in january 2007 (6.6% vs 4.6%)

2. Adjusted for inflation the average wage in the USA has fallen since 2007 as well meaning even those with jobs have less to spend (wages rose around 10% vs 14.6% combined inflation)

3. After years of recession the consumer sentiment index is almost 20 points lower then back then

[Steve Contra]

I honestly forget what a hopeless Sonytard Lager is until posts like these pop up.  I mean I get that he didn't do that much research for that post, but really anything above nothing at all is too much.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Playstation numbers have never been better so I didn't have to do any research to defend sony.

I think you are confused.

These are just extra factors of why sales are down (next to the obvious ones like that handhelds are dead, and that xbo and wiiu are shit)

[Human Snorenado]

Playstation numbers have never been better so I didn't have to do any research to defend sony.

I think you are confused.

[Cerveza mas fina]

PS2 (January 2001) - 248K

PS3 (January 2007) - 244K

PS4 (January 2014) - 271K

[Human Snorenado]

NEVER. Not when PS2 was doing, like, 1 milion units a month or some shit. NEVER.

Yup. Methodis without the occasional humor.

[Third]

NEVER. Not when PS2 was doing, like, 1 milion units a month or some shit. NEVER.

 


But it is the best Playstation launch so far. Numbers don't lie

What it'll do next is a different thing. Matching Ps2 numbers could get hard.

[Steve Youngblood]

PS2 (January 2001) - 248K

PS3 (January 2007) - 244K

PS4 (January 2014) - 271K

When I see that the wildly successful PS2 was a mere 4K ahead of the PS3, that tells me something about the PS2 numbers. Mind you, I get that it's somewhat difficult to assert that the PS4 is any sort of immediate danger. But I think the crux of the issue is to recognize the difficulties plaguing the industry and why that's bad. Yes, in a vacuum, 271 doesn't seem alarming at all. After all, November and December were great, and there's also a problem of supply at least to some extent (I already argued I don't think it was a major problem, but let's just agree it was a problem). So, by itself, sure, let's say the PS4 did all right.

The problem is that the posted number really isn't something to write home about. The Wii U is bombing, and the Xbox One doesn't seem to be sitting very pretty based on that January drop. If console gaming was still sitting pretty, it would stand to reason that all those people who aren't buying Wii Us and aren't buying Xbones would instead be buying PS4s since it seems to be the console darling right now. And when the current king of the hill -- the perceived clear victor at the onset -- is only posting that? That's... not good.

But sure, go PlayStation.

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  Kaz
  Cerny

#GreatnessHasArrived

And yes, I know this post is a waste of everyone's time. Leave me alone!

[Cerveza mas fina]

NEVER. Not when PS2 was doing, like, 1 milion units a month or some shit. NEVER.

Yup. Methodis without the occasional humor.

Obviously im talking about the launch, since thats like what weve been talking about.

You always this anal?

[Takao]

How often is #10 on the NPD software list below 100k?

[Human Snorenado]

How often is #10 on the NPD software list below 100k?

Looky looky, someone actually asking a SMART fucking question.

[Third]

Dunno about the Ps3, but the Ps4 seemed to have supply issues in january. It was definitely supply constrained during december in NA. The console was never as readily available as the X1 anyway. And it still seems to be hard to find a Ps4 in a local store. Amazon seems to be in stock, though. The Ps4 has been the #1 best selling product there for days now.

The drought is even more severe in mainland Europe. I'm sure Sony wanted to take over MS' main territories first by providing those regions with more stock. But seeing how Sony took over NA and UK in a matter of two months, I expect the rest of the world to get more Ps4 stock soon. Although I'm not so sure considering the console is launching in Japan next week.

I'm still waiting for my Ps4. Will probably be delivered in march here.   

People are really underestimating Ps4's demand and popularity in this thread. I'm certain the console will outsell the X1 by 2:1 WW when it's all said and done.

[Steve Youngblood]

People are really underestimating Ps4's demand and popularity in this thread. I'm certain the console will outsell the X1 by 2:1 WW when it's all said and done.

I think what you are missing is that some are actually trying to look at the bigger picture here and not just looking to ejaculate at the thought of PS4 crushing the Xbone and Wii U. Let's look at this:

I'm certain the console will outsell the X1 by 2:1 WW when it's all said and done.

That may quite possibly prove correct. What you are ignoring is that many are noting that pulverizing the X1 in such a fashion may not ultimately prove to be that impressive of a feat.

[Cerveza mas fina]

When you are watching sports do you complain that the current season isn't as good as 25 years ago or are you just happy that your team won?

[Steve Contra]

What an odd analogy

[Third]

I'm definitely ejaculating at the thought of PS4 crushing the Xbone and Wii U. I won't lie

Nintendo has released an awful lastgen console with a useselss Gamepad that no one wants.
MS tried to fuck us over with their DRM shit. And the console is less powerfull but still costs more than its direct competitor. Xbox Live is a scam and Kinect sucks.

Both Nintendo and MS deserve to bomb and rethink their strategies. I'm glad both are tanking in their current state.

[Steve Youngblood]

When you are watching sports do you complain that the current season isn't as good as 25 years ago or are you just happy that your team won?

I'm not much of a sports guy myself. However, I can empathize with that far more than I can being emotionally invested in a corporation that manufactures video game consoles to the point where it seems like a personal victory for you when a company you like is doing relatively less poorly than the other guys.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Sports teams are companies too btw

How often is #10 on the NPD software list below 100k?

It's been leading to this for a while, but yes, this is the first time that's happened in at least a decade.  Can't be arsed to go back farther.

Then again 10 years ago digital wasnt up to 50% of sales and people had jobs.

[Human Snorenado]

When you are watching sports do you complain that the current season isn't as good as 25 years ago or are you just happy that your team won?

If you're not a knuckle dragging fuckstick, you might look around and notice that although you won, attendance across the league is down and maybe someday, you won't have any more games to go to to cheer your team on.

Just a thought, which I know isn't your forte, but hey.

[Steve Contra]

And if digital sales were 50% of sales on consoles...hoo boy we'd be hearing about it.

[Steve Youngblood]

Sports teams are companies too btw

Touché?

[Steve Youngblood]

Don't worry, stanning sports teams is plenty manchildish

Yeah, but I can kind of understand the appeal. We are odd. STLBORE is a group of weirdos who -- despite living in the heart of Cardinals nation -- don't give a shit at all about the Cardinals. And I don't feel bad about that because, speaking personally, baseball is fucking dull. But I can see the appeal of getting on the bandwagon. You go to downtown St. Louis on a nice weekend day when the Cardinals are playing in town, and you'll encounter tens of thousands of red shirts all united with a common purpose. It makes sense. I wouldn't mind getting on board and having a beer with fellow cards fans as I go crazy when that one guy hits a homerun or that other guy strikes someone out with his patented breaking pitch. Unfortunately, I find baseball fucking dull. So instead of getting swept up in the hoopla, I find myself wishing people would shut up about the fucking Cardinals.

And I think the kind of person that is posting Banderas reaction gifs to PS4 versus Xbox One sales numbers unironically is on a whole 'nother level.

[Cerveza mas fina]

When you are watching sports do you complain that the current season isn't as good as 25 years ago or are you just happy that your team won?

If you're not a knuckle dragging fuckstick, you might look around and notice that although you won, attendance across the league is down and maybe someday, you won't have any more games to go to to cheer your team on.

Just a thought, which I know isn't your forte, but hey.

At least make sense COG when you attempt to be smart.

There is always amateur sports which will never go away as long as people play.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

The tablet and smartphone explosion also refute the economic downturn angle.

There's not a lot of incentive to buy either the PS4 or the Bone right now.  The games aren't very good on them.  It seems like the only game that is worth a shit that is out now for either console that you can't get anywhere else is Dead Rising 3 and that is hardly worth paying $560 + tax for.

[Human Snorenado]

When you are watching sports do you complain that the current season isn't as good as 25 years ago or are you just happy that your team won?

If you're not a knuckle dragging fuckstick, you might look around and notice that although you won, attendance across the league is down and maybe someday, you won't have any more games to go to to cheer your team on.

Just a thought, which I know isn't your forte, but hey.

At least make sense COG when you attempt to be smart.

There is always amateur sports which will never go away as long as people play.

I look forward to your turn as an Ouya fanboy then, I guess. One of us isn't making any fucking sense but it sure as shit isn't me.

[Damian79]

PS2 (January 2001) - 248K

PS3 (January 2007) - 244K

PS4 (January 2014) - 271K

i'd actually like to see a rebuttal to this

January 2007 NPD
Wii - 436,000
360 - 294,000
PS3 - 244,000
PS2 - 299,000
GC - 34,000

January 2014
PS4 - 271K
XB1 - 141K
PS3 ~53.5K
Wii U ~49K
360 ~48.5K

[Steve Contra]

Incredibly healthy industry.  Nothing but good times for Sony from here on out.

[CajoleJuice]

holy shit

[Himu]

PS2 (January 2001) - 248K

PS3 (January 2007) - 244K

PS4 (January 2014) - 271K

i'd actually like to see a rebuttal to this

January 2007 NPD
Wii - 436,000
360 - 294,000
PS3 - 244,000
PS2 - 299,000
GC - 34,000

January 2014
PS4 - 271K
XB1 - 141K
PS3 ~53.5K
Wii U ~49K
360 ~48.5K

We already covered 2007 - the industry is in decline. That's obvious. I was more interested in his ps2 argument.

[Human Snorenado]

In 2007, Sony only had 25% of the next gen market. In 2014, they've got over 58%! Good news for Sony, you guys are all full of shit. #lagerposting

Himu- Oscar sufficiently addressed that above.