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benjipwns · « **Reply #18720 on:** March 26, 2017, 12:49:17 PM »

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Despite NBA commissioner Adam Silver’s imploring the league’s owners in a memo last week to become more involved in the decision-making process with regard to resting players, San Antonio Spurs coach Gregg Popovich said such involvement could create “a slippery slope” capable of undermining relationships inside organizations.

“I understand Adam’s concern, and it’s a legitimate concern. We all have it. We all feel badly about [it],” Popovich said Saturday. “I think they used the example of the young man and his dad or whatever. They’ve saved up their money. They want to go see somebody play, and that person’s not there. I get it. If it was me, I’d be miffed myself. But we all have different roles, different jobs, and different goals. We can’t satisfy everybody. But I think that every owner’s gonna be different. I think it’s a slippery slope, and makes it difficult to keep trust, and camaraderie to the degree that I think you have to have to be successful in this league if owners get too involved in what coaches and GMs are doing.”

Just three games into the season, Popovich started to rest players, beginning with San Antonio’s Oct. 29 matchup at home against New Orleans. Since then, Popovich has rested a total of six players for a combined 19 games, including Danny Green, who sat out the club’s 106-98 victory Saturday night over the New York Knicks.

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Popovich indicated that the trust developed among himself, general manager R.C. Buford and Spurs ownership is what has helped the organization build the culture the rest of the league appears to be trying to replicate.

“I think keeping owners informed about what’s going on is mandatory, and having input is fine,” Popovich said. “But I think there has to be an understanding that coaches and GMs have brains also, and we know who pays the bills. It’s a slippery slope, I think, if owners got too involved in that process. That trust relationship in those three areas is really important in creating a culture and making something that can be long-lasting. I’ve been here over 20 years. I think that says it all. They just let us do our jobs. We keep them informed as we should. And the chips fall where they may. If we’re not successful, I’m sure we’ll be gone just like anybody’s gone if things don’t work out well.”

Popovich expressed confidence, however, that league ownership, the NBA’s various partners, and coaches and general managers around the league can come to some type of agreement that would be palatable for all involved.

“The one comment that I’ve heard that makes a lot of sense, is that if you’re gonna rest somebody, if you can do it at home, then you should. Like, we’re resting Danny Green tonight,” Popovich said. “Danny Green is not LeBron James, but if we rested Kawhi [Leonard], if there’s a way we could do it at home, that seems like a logical thing to me; a reasonable thing that a coach or GM should think about, rather [than] that one time somebody’s gonna watch him play someplace else, if you can do it. Sometimes the schedule dictates differently. But that makes sense to me. So I think there can be areas like that where we come together and try to make everybody happy. But that’s why no basic rule has been written, so to speak. Because you can’t write a rule that covers everything. It’s complicated ... kind of like health care.”

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #18721 on:** March 26, 2017, 01:08:50 PM »

Yeah the rise of this issue is annoying. It's such a short term way to look at the business that getting Lebron or some other superstar to play a meaningless Jan, Feb, game is more important than the increased risk of injury.

They can either shorten the season or learn to deal with it. Or create scheduling holes around big televised games. That's it. But making people play when its not the smart health move ain't gonna be the solution.

benjipwns · « **Reply #18722 on:** March 26, 2017, 01:22:27 PM »

Yeah, but the regular fan can't afford to go to a Finals game, they need those January games to see LeBron in action, not some meaningless crap in the future. And it's a crime that LeBron sits at all during them or that these players skip the Olympics and stuff, Karl Malone played every game, Wilt Chamberlain played every minute, so these pampered babies have no excuse! They're just being selfish!

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benjipwns · « **Reply #18723 on:** March 26, 2017, 02:21:22 PM »

still my favorite NBA promotion of all time:

benjipwns · « **Reply #18724 on:** March 26, 2017, 02:21:34 PM »

oh wait i forgot this lol

Huff · « **Reply #18725 on:** March 26, 2017, 07:43:19 PM »

I know all fan bases are guilty of having bandwagon fans that never went there, but this North Carolina bar is full of the most obnoxious dipshits that barely passed high school.

etiolate · « **Reply #18726 on:** March 26, 2017, 09:15:57 PM »

https://streamable.com/ixu82

prime Clippers

benjipwns · « **Reply #18727 on:** March 26, 2017, 11:52:27 PM »

i've enjoyed the secret vivek's obsession actually being right thing going on with hield

his TS has gone from 50% with the pelicans to 63% despite being basically given a green light to play like he was back at oklahoma

evans as well, 49% to 58%

papagiannis and labissiere randomly turned into decent to good offensive players out of nowhere too

if the team played any defense they might actually win games

etiolate · « **Reply #18728 on:** March 27, 2017, 02:17:36 AM »

The best part of that video is Mike Smith's confident "Yes" to the question of believing in a Clippers meltdown.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #18729 on:** March 27, 2017, 10:27:13 PM »

Cavs have been complete shit in the second half of the season.

Syph · « **Reply #18730 on:** March 28, 2017, 02:31:28 AM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on March 27, 2017, 10:27:13 PM

Cavs have been complete shit in the second half of the season.

lebron's menstrual cramps kicking in again

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #18731 on:** March 29, 2017, 02:35:43 PM »

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19031366/indiana-pacers-agree-deal-bring-back-lance-stephenson

lol

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #18732 on:** March 29, 2017, 02:43:27 PM »

Cavs are going to get stomped by the Wiz in the playoffs methinks

Syph · « **Reply #18733 on:** March 29, 2017, 05:29:40 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on March 29, 2017, 02:43:27 PM

Cavs are going to get stomped by the Wiz in the playoffs methinks

i can dream
i never really disliked lebron or the cavs until this year
the constant whining and bitching has finally gotten to me
guy is basically the GM and Coach yet still complains about his teammates and every little thing
leaders lead
half of san antonio is on medicare yet you don't hear them bitch

go warriors

jakefromstatefarm · « **Reply #18734 on:** March 29, 2017, 09:49:37 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on March 26, 2017, 11:52:27 PM

his TS has gone from 50% with the pelicans to 63% despite being basically given a green light to play like he was back at oklahoma

Quote from: jakefromstatefarm on June 23, 2016, 10:07:49 PM

there's no way his jumper doesn't translate.

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Gun to my head, Hield is the 3rd best player right now in this draft

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that might actually not be wrong

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Nola · « **Reply #18735 on:** March 29, 2017, 09:59:16 PM »

https://twitter.com/MikeCianciolo/status/847261053624795136

Syph · « **Reply #18736 on:** March 30, 2017, 01:50:03 AM »

be up 20+ against the warriors and lose brehs

benjipwns · « **Reply #18737 on:** March 30, 2017, 04:17:20 PM »

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19025784/zach-lowe-2017-marc-gasol-all-stars-featuring-nikola-jokic-andre-iguodala-more

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18843801/zach-lowe-2017-luke-walton-all-stars-nba

etiolate · « **Reply #18738 on:** March 31, 2017, 02:17:06 PM »

Cousins vs Kings tonight. Koufos is sitting out, so it's going to be the rooks guarding him and Davis.

benjipwns · « **Reply #18739 on:** April 04, 2017, 10:17:41 PM »

Russ has pretty much locked up that triple double average for the season. Pelton's projector is now at 99.99% after his 41st of the season, but I can't imagine them letting him screw it up since they can't fall out of the playoffs. If he plays all of their last five games and gets zero rebounds and zero assists he'd still be at 10.1 rpg and 9.9 apg. He needs three assists over five games to round up at 9.96 apg.

one of the achievements i never figured would be broken simply because of the pace differences

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #18740 on:** April 04, 2017, 10:51:26 PM »

Impressive feat. That being said, he is also going to break the usage rate record by quite a large margin.

Syph · « **Reply #18741 on:** April 04, 2017, 11:29:53 PM »

Lance Stephenson brought the fuckery tonight

Hoping for that Pacers Cavs first round matchup

benjipwns · « **Reply #18742 on:** April 04, 2017, 11:55:34 PM »

If the Warriors win tonight they only need one more win to break the Bulls 1996-98 three season record of 203. (72-69-62 v. 67-73-65+)

I believe the four year records were the 1985-88 Lakers (62-62-65-62) and 1984-1987 Celtics (62-63-67-59) at 251 wins. The Warriors have already surpassed this at 254.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #18743 on:** April 05, 2017, 06:28:02 PM »

I know its old hat at this point but it seems like a fine time to bring up again that the Thunder would have the top 3 mvp candidates on their squad (If Durant didn't get hurt this year) if they didn't cheap out.

El Babua · « **Reply #18744 on:** April 05, 2017, 07:39:31 PM »

It would have been interesting to see how those individual players and the team would have developed if they all stayed.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #18745 on:** April 05, 2017, 08:13:32 PM »

Think I'll watch this Celtics Cavs game.

El Babua · « **Reply #18746 on:** April 05, 2017, 09:01:46 PM »

Lue bringing out that playoff defense early

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #18747 on:** April 05, 2017, 09:12:18 PM »

Impressive first half. They just bullied the Celtics.

Syph · « **Reply #18748 on:** April 05, 2017, 11:03:51 PM »

welp
i guess the best we can hope for is a first round match up against the pacers to beat them up and then celtics might have a chance...if they play the opposite of the way they did today

Syph · « **Reply #18749 on:** April 06, 2017, 06:14:45 AM »

that is exactly what i was alluding to haha

El Babua · « **Reply #18750 on:** April 07, 2017, 10:06:55 PM »

Didn't think I'd say it in my life, but we will probably miss the playoffs due to Waiters' getting hurt.

Syph · « **Reply #18751 on:** April 09, 2017, 07:03:53 PM »

Cavs blew a 26 point lead to lose back to back games to ATL

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #18752 on:** April 10, 2017, 12:04:42 AM »

I can't tell if the problems for them on defense are that they are just that bad on that end,or they just don't try on that end. I mean the team isn't functionally that different than it was last year. But the defense is so bad and uneven this year.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #18753 on:** April 10, 2017, 10:49:00 AM »

https://twitter.com/mikekorz/status/851214694417403905?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fdeadspin.com%2Fajax%2Finset%2Fiframe%3Fid%3Dtwitter-851214694417403905%26autosize%3D1

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #18754 on:** April 10, 2017, 01:36:17 PM »

Just give the man his dang MVP trophy already.

El Babua · « **Reply #18755 on:** April 11, 2017, 06:46:26 PM »

Heat playoff chances rest on the Nets, who happen to be resting 4 of their "best" players.

benjipwns · « **Reply #18756 on:** April 12, 2017, 01:02:56 AM »

If the Wizards beat Miami it'll be the first time since 2011 the East has had four 50 win teams. And only the second time since 1998.

Although technically, in the two lockout seasons there were at minimum four teams with an equivalent winning %.

jakefromstatefarm · « **Reply #18757 on:** April 12, 2017, 02:56:14 AM »

I looked this up the other day: evidently, other than LeBron-lead teams*, since 06-07 there have been a grand total of 4 teams in the East who've finished with 60+ wins. Two of those are big 3 Boston teams -08 & 09- the other two are the 11 Bulls w/ mvp Rose and the 15 Hawks (and that team was fucking trash). The Bulls hit an equivalent win percentage in the 12 lockout season.

By comparison, 12 different teams in the west have 60 win seasons in that same time span. San Antonio alone has like 5 of them along with an equivalent win percentage in 2012.

*for reference, LeBron's teams hit 60 wins in 09, 10, & 13

benjipwns · « **Reply #18758 on:** April 12, 2017, 03:15:03 AM »

One year sooner adds the Pistons who played essentially 6.5 guys only (Wallace-Wallace-Prince-Hamilton-Billups with McDyess and Maurice Evans+Delfino off the bench) and won 64 games and put four players on the All-Star team. Kinda like those Hawks did. Although the starting lineup never won Player of the Month like those Hawks did.

El Babua · « **Reply #18759 on:** April 12, 2017, 11:33:43 PM »

Good job, good effort

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #18760 on:** April 13, 2017, 08:55:11 AM »

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #18761 on:** April 13, 2017, 09:00:49 AM »

Rando thoughts.

I was really surprised at the Pistons season this year. After playing the Cavs so well in the playoffs last year, I thought they were ready to make a jump.

I was also surprised the Timberwolves only improved 2 games with Thibs. I know the western conference is insanely tough but still.

The Cavs felt like the Clippers all year which is not a good place to be.

Was happy to see the Greek Freak make the leap.

Looks like a relatively easy title year for the Warriors.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #18762 on:** April 13, 2017, 10:29:18 AM »

Still think they should go back to Bo3 or Bo5 for the first round.

benjipwns · « **Reply #18763 on:** April 13, 2017, 04:18:00 PM »

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Sources familiar with the situation told ESPN that the Knicks and Jackson quietly picked up their option on the remaining two years of his contract this spring.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #18764 on:** April 15, 2017, 09:19:46 AM »

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19160908/frustrated-kristaps-porzingis-skips-exit-meetings-new-york-knicks-management

Phil's reign is starting to get ugly.

Beezy · « **Reply #18765 on:** April 15, 2017, 11:03:27 AM »

What do you mean "starting"?

etiolate · « **Reply #18766 on:** April 15, 2017, 07:06:03 PM »

https://twitter.com/KIRO7Seattle/status/853379367375863809

Terrible news.

FStop7 · « **Reply #18767 on:** April 16, 2017, 05:12:55 PM »

Zaza is the worst garbaggio.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #18768 on:** April 18, 2017, 11:19:34 AM »

etiolate · « **Reply #18769 on:** April 18, 2017, 10:32:34 PM »

Celtics thinkpieces INCOMING

benjipwns · « **Reply #18770 on:** April 18, 2017, 10:38:35 PM »

benjipwns · « **Reply #18771 on:** April 19, 2017, 12:03:22 AM »

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J.A. Adande
@jadande

This looks like one of those games the Clippers will win, but not by as many points as they should

bluemax · « **Reply #18772 on:** April 19, 2017, 01:00:34 AM »

Up 6 under 2 to go and Jordan has 5 fouls. Yeah this feels like prime Clippers.

Edit: And then Blake hits a 3.

team filler · « **Reply #18773 on:** April 19, 2017, 09:23:01 PM »

Quilt Chamberlain

FStop7 · « **Reply #18774 on:** April 19, 2017, 11:03:36 PM »

Did Russ join Aerosmith?

Warriors really putting on a show.

FStop7 · « **Reply #18775 on:** April 19, 2017, 11:17:33 PM »

I'd die happy seeing Russ running the Lake Show but they love him so much in OKC and he seems very attached to the city. It would take so much to pull him away.

jakefromstatefarm · « **Reply #18776 on:** April 20, 2017, 01:07:04 AM »

Quote from: Jack Remington on April 19, 2017, 11:08:11 PM

Westbrook needs to come home next season. On a team like the Lakers, he could really be that missing piece.

if you thought he wasn't getting any help in okc...

Yo, Harden had 35 on 7 made shots?

bluemax · « **Reply #18777 on:** April 20, 2017, 04:52:45 PM »

https://streamable.com/08s6v

But he's got no one to pass to.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #18778 on:** April 20, 2017, 08:49:30 PM »

Quote from: jakefromstatefarm on April 20, 2017, 01:07:04 AM

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #18779 on:** April 20, 2017, 09:34:34 PM »

Turned into a big game after looking like a nasty blowout early.

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