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Olivia Wilde Homo

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the economic debate between the two is going to be like two junior athletes aiming for varsity.  the two are so meh about the subject, but obama has a much better record.  Romney is going to get shat on methinks because obama's ads against him have been really effective in ohio

Yep which is probably why I will vote for Jill Stein.
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First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then it turns out they were on your side all along

Then they come for the communists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Stop making fun of me, I'm trying to become a pundit ok? I have to learn to speak and think entirely in self-serious clichés.
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First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then it turns out they were on your side all along

Then they come for the communists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Stop making fun of me, I'm trying to become a pundit ok? I have to learn to speak and think entirely in self-serious clichés.

Just use the Bill O'Reilly/Chris Matthews style of punditry: the louder you get, the more factual you are
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Well, seems Curt Schilling's officially shitbaked. Noteworthy part, though:

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Schilling also defending himself against charges of hypocrisy from some commentators who say Schilling's outspoken criticism of government handouts and programs goes against his acceptance of hefty state funding to support his game studio. "I’m not sure where my stance and opinion in that we need a smaller government—I’m not sure how that correlates to this," he said. "The program was there for local businesses to use. ... That money was literally coming out of the budget into our company, going right back into the local economy."

What a tool. :lol

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When Schilling absurdly insisted that he wasn't looking for taxpayer handouts, he shouldn't have been surprised when those hands turned into fists.

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So, today's the day the SC is probably going to (arbitrarily and against about 40-50 years of precedent) find the individual mandate unconstitutional.
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If only big government hadn't forced that $75 million loan on him, things might have turned out differently.  :'(
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So, today's the day the SC is probably going to (arbitrarily and against about 40-50 years of precedent) find the individual mandate unconstitutional.

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The SC just overturned a lot of the Arizona immigration law, while upholding the "papers please" policy

The health care ruling will be Thursday. Interestingly according to SCOTOS Blog, the opinion authorship is being written by Roberts, with Kennedy apparently. Could mean a 6-3 ruling
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If that's the case it will be either a 6-3 upholding or a 5-4 overturning; there's no way Ginsburg, Breyer, Sotomayor and Kagan are voting it down.  My money is still on 5-4 overturning because at this point I really just view the "conservative" justices as another wing of the RNC/Fox/Koch Ratfucker Inc.
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I'd be shocked by a complete over turn. I think they'll shit can the mandate, causing health insurance companies to go apeshit

But if Roberts and Kennedy are on the same side, I could see it being upheld easily. Roberts would have to dismiss 75 years of law to overturn the mandate...

On the other hand, this is the culmination of what, 30 years of stacking the court with conservative activists? Shitcanning Obamacare would be a crown achievement for that movement. Hell, I read some of Scalia's dissent on the AZ ruling and he was raging against Obama's recent policy reversal on immigration. Which had nothing to do with the AZ case
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If only big government hadn't forced that $75 million loan on him, things might have turned out differently.  :'(

"If the government was going to oppress me by offering tens of millions of dollars to fund my studio, the least they could have done was to continue with the oppression until the game was finished!"

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That's the second superPAC ad that builds Obama up to seem legitimately cool and then tries to make being cool a negative.  I just don't get the strategy at all.

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Because this TOTALLY worked in 2008,
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Why is this REAL?

Good thing we've got someone humble and personable like Romney to take Obama's place!
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Good thing we've got someone humble and personable like Romney to take Obama's place!



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Good thing we've got someone humble and personable like Romney to take Obama's place!
Uhhh, even better...Gary Johnson.

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Here's a recent official Romney ad apparently:

I have to admit I like the "movie trailer"-ish ones that are coming out of the GOP this cycle. Plus there was Perry's, uh excitement, and whatever Cain was doing. But in any regard they're certainly more INTERESTING than the standard political ad. Not like that shit McCain was making with the weird ditty.

Sadly, Gary's are even worse than that...and outright horrible and disgusting...but I would help for a fee! Even though I can't vote for him. Maybe even free...and oh god why did I let there be any hope Gary why

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Oh, benji.  America elected a black guy president before a libertarian!

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But but but what about a black libertarian Governor of Michigan?

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they're targeting people's resentment and envy over other people being cooler than them, I guess - wait, isn't that what Ayn Rand warned us about?  >:(
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That was nauseating.

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If you look under 'Manufactured Outrage' in the dictionary it used Fast and Furious as an example.
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If you look under 'Manufactured Outrage' in the dictionary it used Fast and Furious as an example.

Have you read the article on Fortune that came out today? It's fairly enlightening, to say the least:

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Irony abounds when it comes to the Fast and Furious scandal. But the ultimate irony is this: Republicans who support the National Rifle Association and its attempts to weaken gun laws are lambasting ATF agents for not seizing enough weapons—ones that, in this case, prosecutors deemed to be legal.

http://features.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2012/06/27/fast-and-furious-truth/?iid=GM

Pretty much says it all.

Edit: That article really underscores what a total mess this whole situation is. The ATF is absolutely hobbled in what they can do about gun smuggling in legal terms by conservatives and the NRA, and in financial terms by minuscule budgets. Even so, they dig and dig and find every last shred of evidence they can to stop these "straw purchasers." They keep pushing the evidence to public prosecutors, who turn their noses up at the evidence. All the while more and more guns pour across the borders. Then somebody gets killed by one of those guns. Now its suddenly all on the ATF, they should have been out there catching the bad guys and stopping this gun smuggling. No, it's even worse than that, they were actually HELPING the smugglers get guns into Mexico. What an absolute joke, somebody needs to have this whole campaign blow up right in their face.
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I did read it. I think Obama used his executive privilege as a big FUCK YOU to Issa and the GOP without actually having something to hide. Let them stew and create tinfoil hat conspiracy theories to help faux news sell ads..
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Now Issa is saying he has no evidence Holder knew about the program lol

This stuff started under Bush. They act like this was some master stroke to ban the second amendment or some shit.
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This is an election year.  The stupidity gets cranked up to 11 every election and this one certainly isn't going to be any different.
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Heath care ruling tomorrow around 10AM est.
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This is an election year.  The stupidity gets cranked up to 11 every election and this one certainly isn't going to be any different.

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More Americans are confident in President Obama’s ability to handle an alien invasion than in Mitt Romney’s, according to a new poll released Wednesday.

In a survey conducted for the National Geographic Channel, 65 percent said they’d pick Obama to deal with an invading alien force over Romney. Obama also took the confidence vote among 68 percent of women surveyed, likely a key voting bloc in this scenario as well as in the November election.

In addition, about 79 percent of those surveyed think the government has kept information about aliens and UFOs a secret from the public. Despite that widespread suspicion, only 36 percent actually think UFOs exist, 17 percent don't, and 48 percent aren't sure.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/235101-poll-americans-pick-obama-over-romney-to-handle-an-alien-invasion

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Nat Geo survey? Meh, clearly didn't have a large enough sample of people from Real America.

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Mandate upheld.

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I can already hear the gnashing of teeth and the flow of tears.
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Fox apparently originally reported it as having been struck down.
CNN as well.
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Fox apparently originally reported it as having been struck down.
CNN as well.
It was struck down under the Commerce Clause and others, it was later in the opinion that Roberts upheld it as a tax. Fox had someone reading directly from the opinion on the air so they didn't get to the tax part until like a minute later.

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In a dramatic victory for President Barack Obama, the Supreme Court upheld the 2010 health care law Thursday, preserving Obama’s landmark legislative achievement.

The majority opinion was written by Chief Justice John Roberts, who held that the law was a valid exercise of Congress’s power to tax.

http://nbcpolitics.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/28/12457822-supreme-court-upholds-health-care-law?lite
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Yeah I got an email from CNN saying that the mandate had been struck down and I was honestly surprised.  I didn't actually expect it to be struck down.  Then a minute later they sent a correction.  w00t

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Holy fuck, Kennedy opens the dissent by saying the entire law should be invalidated. Roberts saved the day

Too bad I have to leave soon. The tears, they will be epic

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majority opinion was that the ACA isn't justified by the commerce clause, but it doesn't matter because they don't lock you up and throw away the key if you dissent, you just have to give the government a fiver, and that's all good.

junior legal analysts from liberty college at fox probably just got to the first part and had the lede written while jizzing themselves before they read the rest and went SHITTTTTTTTtttttttt

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Haven't seen the Republicans on my fb feed crying about this yet... good to hear that this wasn't axed though.
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http://video.foxnews.com/video-live-streaming.html?video_id=1155606218001
holy fuck @ the rants. They have gone insane

The crowd started cheering when Bachman said the mandate had been upheld. :lol
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Yeah I got an email from CNN saying that the mandate had been struck down and I was honestly surprised.

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Then a minute later they sent a correction.  w00t

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Man, that lady on the Fox live stream now is hysterical. :lol
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Commerce clause doesn't apply but mandate is upheld anyway?

Kennedy votes to overturn but Roberts votes to uphold?

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I love how they shuffled Ruth Cryptkeeper Ginsberg all the way to the side
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If I'm not mistaken I believe there's an official order to their seating placement in those photos. Inside-outside by order of their appointment. With Chief Justice always in the middle obviously.

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Many of the internal operations of the Court are organized by the seniority of the justices; the Chief Justice is considered the most senior member of the Court, regardless of the length of his or her service. The Associate Justices are then ranked by the length of their service.

During Court sessions, the justices sit according to seniority, with the Chief Justice in the center, and the Associate Justices on alternating sides, with the most senior Associate Justice on the Chief Justice's immediate right, and the most junior Associate Justice seated on the left farthest away from the Chief Justice. Therefore, the current court sits as follows from left to right when looking at the bench from the perspective of a lawyer arguing before the Court: Sotomayor, Breyer, Thomas, Scalia (most senior Associate Justice), Roberts (Chief Justice), Kennedy, Ginsburg, Alito, and Kagan. In the official yearly Court photograph, justices are arranged similarly, with the five most senior members sitting in the front row in the same order as they would sit during Court sessions (Thomas, Scalia, Roberts, Kennedy, Ginsburg), and the four most junior justices standing behind them, again in the same order as they would sit during Court sessions (Sotomayor, Breyer, Alito, Kagan).
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The only thing that would have made this better is if Thomas was the 5th vote instead of Roberts.
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Welp, looks like I need to bait someone on Facebook by putting something like that.  Too good to pass up.


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Just because a couple people on the Supreme Court declare something to be ‘constitutional’ does not make it so

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Hay guyz what's going on in he-

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

SUCK IT DOWN BITCHES SUCK. IT. DOWN.

That Rand Paul quote is priceless, by the way.

Also, Obama could have another Justice to appoint any day now because obviously Kennedy is in the latter stages of dementia.
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http://twitter.com/spencerhawes00/

Token conservative white NBA player bringing the heat on Twitter.

Spencer Hawes ‏@spencerhawes00
Just drove by a bald eagle who appeared to be crying. Coincidence @barackobama?


57m Spencer Hawes ‏@spencerhawes00
Didn't realize twitter was so overwhelmingly liberal! My lecture at camp turned from passing to politics today. ‪#swayingtheyoungminds‬

1h Spencer Hawes ‏@spencerhawes00
‪#cantwait‬ for November!

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O weird the market is headed down this morning. Who could have foreseen that now that ‪#America‬ is ‪#socialist‬. ‪#taxtatxtax‬ ‪#spendspendspend‬

1h Spencer Hawes ‏@spencerhawes00
Ronald Reagan is spinning in his grave. We might as well be Russia in 1983. ‪#americancommunists‬



Wonder why he picked 1983.  At that point the USSR was led by... Yuri Andropov (yes, I had to look that up).  Why not during Stalin's reign?  Or even Brezhnev?  He probably just picked a random date, but he maybe thinks of the USSR existing solely as Reagan's nemesis.

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Just drove by a bald eagle who appeared to be crying. Coincidence @barackobama?

Holy shit :rofl
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Speaking of crazy conservatives, I had a huge surprise when I went to Philadelphia for my sister's graduation.  They had a guest speaker who was talking about the future problems of the world and resources.  And then he started talking about women's rights and at the peak of his speech he started shouting that women should be allowed to have contraceptives and abortions without laws restricting them and the crowd cheered.  It felt so weird because I completely agree but for once in my life my opinion was the majority.  I heard no boo's and saw no angry faces.  Then I remembered, "This isn't Texas".  This fuckin' state.

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"free healthcare"

good lawd the ignorance
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