Corona Thread |OT| Nu variant, who dis?

[Madrun Badrun]

The small indian bakery that I go to shut down it seems - shame it was a good place.  Double shame, I left the house for nothing. 

[team filler]

President Moon Jae-In,

We need your help. Our President waffles back and forth on how to use the factories in our country everyday because he can't figure out which oligarchs he wants to please. Essential workers are kept grinding away until they fall seriously ill or die, because they are not given any sick time to recuperate despite having essential functions in a pandemic. These combined issues have resulted in a dilemma where all the people working the jobs society needs to function are performing them with no protection or financial security. If they speak out about the dangerous work conditions, they are immediately let loose by the managerial bureaucracy comfortably working from home despite having a shortage of necessary personnel. The plutocrat press praises governor Cuomo's response to this crisis despite his decade of work spent closing hospitals and advocating for workers to have less coverage, we have no voice. Please send Daewoo K1A Assault Carbine and  K-SAM Chunma to our oppressed friends in New York City.

https://twitter.com/matthewherper/status/1245000038570393602

[james]

Think you just became accustomed to the new normal.

Nah it's because all the exponential talk didn't pan out.

We should be at 10 million dead by now but we barely cracked 3000.

And Rand paul is still alive

[VomKriege]

So apparently some people at the Imperial College London, quoted in a MIT review, are envisioning on/off shutdowns (1month off, 2 months on) until a vaccine is found.

 

No fam, fuck this.

[VomKriege]

K-SAM Chunma

Maybe try asking directly to Macron, he's in a generous mood.

[james]

https://mobile.twitter.com/CNN/status/1245013007010344960

 

[bluemax]

So apparently some people at the Imperial College London, quoted in a MIT review, are envisioning on/off shutdowns (1month off, 2 months on) until a vaccine is found.

 

No fam, fuck this.

It seems almost inevitable. There's no way in California we are going back until May, and who knows if that will even work out.

[VomKriege]

His brother will stop at nothing in his stealth presidential run. 

[Madrun Badrun]

Think you just became accustomed to the new normal.

Nah it's because all the exponential talk didn't pan out.

We should be at 10 million dead by now but we barely cracked 3000.

And Rand paul is still alive

Think that's cause the intial rate people were talking about was doubling every day.  Hold your horses and you'll get your millions of deaths. 

[CatsCatsCats]

Tired of rich people getting tested even tho they’re “feeling well” 

[james]

Think you just became accustomed to the new normal.

Nah it's because all the exponential talk didn't pan out.

We should be at 10 million dead by now but we barely cracked 3000.

And Rand paul is still alive

Think that's cause the intial rate people were talking about was doubling every day.  Hold your horses and you'll get your millions of deaths.

Im just tired of waiting.

And no, i don't want millions of deaths. Just a handful.

Trump
Pence
Bolsonaro
JayD
Rand Paul
Rick Scott

You know, the axis of evil

[VomKriege]

Tired of rich people getting tested even tho they’re “feeling well” 

Yeah that's fucked up. I only hear about celebrities / elected officials that died of it or are hospitalized here, though I'm sure Yuro celebs can buy a test from a lab just fine, maybe I don't give enough attention to their Twitter or something... Or maybe they don't flaunt it as much.

[Great Rumbler]

Think you just became accustomed to the new normal.

Nah it's because all the exponential talk didn't pan out.

We should be at 10 million dead by now but we barely cracked 3000.

And Rand paul is still alive

I wish you'd get corona.

[BisMarckie]

Only after I get my money!

[shosta]

Some employees at McCarran airport got it, where Shosta Sr. works. This is how he's gonna get it. And then that's how I'm going to get it. 

[james]

Think you just became accustomed to the new normal.

Nah it's because all the exponential talk didn't pan out.

We should be at 10 million dead by now but we barely cracked 3000.

And Rand paul is still alive

I wish you'd get corona.

Get me tickets to the libertarian gala and we have a deal

[Mr. Gundam]

Got discharged from the hospital last Friday and now safely at home. Talking to my friend who's a doctor at University of Washington, they're expecting the surge to hit Seattle in about 2 1/2 weeks now, the weekend of March 20-22 was really sunny and people were fucking stupid and congregated outside.

[VomKriege]

https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1244999134463111168

The Fascists have called in their old Allies in this effort to gaslight us : *checks note* doctors and nurses.

i'm sure he'll remember this strong stance against state's rights the next time something related to abortion comes up

Well, actually, about those abortions... Did you know most fetuses had several comorbidities ?

Some employees at McCarran airport got it, where Shosta Sr. works. This is how he's gonna get it. And then that's how I'm going to get it. 

Is Shosta Sr drilled into the whole washing hands, keep distance, etc... thing ? Do that if not. Not much but anything to minimize risk.

[VomKriege]

Follow up : Is Shosta the kid in F for Family ?

[shosta]

does shosta sr believe the virus is real? (Image removed from quote.)

It's a real Chinese bioweapon

[BisMarckie]

It's absolutely a Chinese bioweapon

Failing Chicoms invented a bioweapon that is worse at killing people than abandoned mustard gas. 

[shosta]

It was the test run

Anyway he also wanted to buy guns and stockpile for six months because he knows there will be riots and mass looting. I don't know why there would be riots because there's still food and people have unemployment but I also still live in this reality

[Pissy F Benny]

Riots and looting 

[shosta]

I'm not liking that post but I did laugh at least you used Nintex instead of Stefan Molyneux

[VomKriege]

7 more deaths in a nursing home of Lorient. We're still waiting on an official tally that was promised last week for deaths outside the hospital system. Belgium has started adding those, they're at 705 total.

France is currently at 20k tests a day.
499 deaths in the last 24h.
Big spike in new cases too (+7k according to Worldometers).
Still a lot of ICU admissions.
Lockdown effects not kicking in yet...

[bork]

Wife's job situation is starting to get kinda fun in a general boredom sort of way.

-She gets sent home by her boss on a Friday out of health concerns (pregnancy)
-She goes back in the following Monday and is sent back home again for the same reason plus no client business
-She stays home for the rest of the week on PTO
-She is told she cannot work remotely
-Yesterday, she is told she can work remotely
-She is told hours later that she cannot work remotely again (lol)
-She receives paperwork about staying at home and 'emergency' extra sick leave for another two weeks, asking for specific reasons why people can't come in (Seriously??)
-Literally right after she sends this in, she is told her office has been shut down for the remainder of the week and everyone was sent home 

[VomKriege]

28 846 tests, 8 660 positives for the exact French numbers today.

[nachobro]

or just say "for retarded liberatarian reasons" so we can just move on and continue to not care about jd's input

[Madrun Badrun]

Ya keep this is the American trash thread. 

[shosta]

can you take this to the nintex and tripon spam thread, thank you

[ToxicAdam]

Jaydubya's posts are like a corpse in a confined space.

Are you dumb enough to actually go in and engage with it?

[james]

The only thing any of Jays posts have to do with Coronavirus is that we all hope he gets it and gets denied medical care due to a bureaucratic error

[Transhuman]

https://mobile.twitter.com/VampireGhuleh/status/1244678272048340992

I was eating some chips and I threw one to a pidgeon I saw, instantly 15 or so pidgeons swoop down (as well as a seagull, and the beach is miles away).

Nature is gonna be weird for a while.

[Nintex]

Today our government decided to extend the semi-lockdown up to April 28th.
Our PM added that he'd be surprised if life could return back to normal after and that people shouldn't make plans for their May holiday and should stay inside during Easter.

Our IC capacity has been expanded from 1150 beds a week ago to 2400 now but it is uncertain if this is enough.
This weekend is expected to be a real test for the system. Government is also planning to increase testing capacity to 29k a day so people other than healthcare workers and terminally ill can get tested.
Again he said these are war time conditions and the biggest crisis we faced since the war when a journalist asked if he had a message for bars/restaurant/pub owners going through difficult times.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

COVID-19 is totally a Chinese bio-weapon

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[Madrun Badrun]

The only thing any of Jays posts have to do with Coronavirus is that we all hope he gets it and gets denied medical care due to a bureaucratic error

I think ventilators should be rationed by post history.

[Cheddahz]

The only thing any of Jays posts have to do with Coronavirus is that we all hope he gets it and gets denied medical care due to a bureaucratic error

the colin moriarty way

[Leadbelly]

It's still hard to gauge the seriousness of this virus. I listened to an interview of someone who was in intensive care but recovered from Covid, yet was young (28) and healthy (regularly ran marathons). The point being made was that you can be young and healthy yet still get bad outcomes.

The recent interview I watched was someone suffering from cancer and so I guess immune deficient. He got Covid but it was really mild. He only had a bit of fever and that was it. No cough, no shortness of breath. Went away relatively quickly.

In truth it is not that surprising that someone can be really healthy but still have a bad outcome from the virus. It's like anything else really. Everyone's biological makeup is different. Some people have a bad reaction from a bee sting for instance. People react differently to things. However, exactly what percentage of people will react badly to Covid? Still unclear.

And on the positive end of things, it can be one of the most mild viruses you'll ever catch. It doesn't even matter if you're suffering from cancer, you won't even notice it.

This won't become clear until we are looking back on it I imagine and have time to really look at the data.

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

Company laid off 25% of workers today.

Didn’t affect me, but for all those who did.

[Transhuman]

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/2020/03/coronavirus-pandemic-fake-animal-viral-social-media-posts/

These reports of wildlife triumphs in countries hard-hit by the novel coronavirus got hundreds of thousands of retweets. They went viral on Instagram and Tik Tok. They made news headlines. If there’s a silver lining of the pandemic, people said, this was it—animals were bouncing back, running free in a humanless world.

But it wasn’t real.

The swans in the viral posts regularly appear in the canals of Burano, a small island in the greater Venice metropolitan area, where the photos were taken. The “Venetian” dolphins were filmed at a port in Sardinia, in the Mediterranean Sea, hundreds of miles away. No one has figured out where the drunken elephant photos came from, but a Chinese news report debunked the viral posts: While elephants did recently come through a village in Yunnan Province, China, their presence isn’t out of the norm, they aren’t the elephants in the viral photos, and they didn’t get drunk and pass out in a tea field.

Those birds I saw were real



Because food scraps was probably their main food source a lot of them will starve and die though.

[Leadbelly]

BTW.. the interview with the person suffering from cancer and Covid-19 is a BBC reporter.  George Alagiah.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-52111754/bbc-s-george-alagiah-on-living-with-coronavirus-and-cancer

Which I guess means it is not a foregone conclusion if you have underlying health issues.

[bluemax]

https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/1245058199595749377

[shosta]

When they say underlying health issues, they're primarily talking about anything that affects your oxygen levels, like obesity and existing pulmonary disease, or autoimmune disorders. I don't think bowel cancer is going to be a compounding factor.

[Leadbelly]

When they say underlying health issues, they're primarily talking about anything that affects your oxygen levels, like obesity and existing pulmonary disease, or autoimmune disorders. I don't think bowel cancer is going to be a compounding factor.

Maybe yeah. However, he would be immune deficient though right because of chemo? Which is also a risk factor I think.

[Leadbelly]

People falling into this extremely vulnerable group include:

    Solid organ transplant recipients.
    People with specific cancers:
        people with cancer who are undergoing active chemotherapy
        people with lung cancer who are undergoing radical radiotherapy
        people with cancers of the blood or bone marrow such as leukaemia, lymphoma or myeloma who are at any stage of treatment
        people having immunotherapy or other continuing antibody treatments for cancer
        people having other targeted cancer treatments which can affect the immune system, such as protein kinase inhibitors or PARP inhibitors
        people who have had bone marrow or stem cell transplants in the last 6 months, or who are still taking immunosuppression drugs

    People with severe respiratory conditions including all cystic fibrosis, severe asthma and severe COPD.

    People with rare diseases and inborn errors of metabolism that significantly increase the risk of infections (such as SCID, homozygous sickle cell).

    People on immunosuppression therapies sufficient to significantly increase risk of infection.
    Women who are pregnant with significant heart disease, congenital or acquired.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/guidance-on-shielding-and-protecting-extremely-vulnerable-persons-from-covid-19/guidance-on-shielding-and-protecting-extremely-vulnerable-persons-from-covid-19

[bork]

[Mr. Gundam]

WASHING!!!

[ToxicAdam]

Taco Bell is giving away free Nacho Cheese Doritos Locos Tacos on Tuesday in the drive-thrus of participating locations as part of its coronavirus response. No purchase is necessary, but the offer is available only while supplies last.

In a letter posted on Tacobell.com, CEO Mark King said the giveaway is to show the company's appreciation and that "we're all in this together."

Yum! brands there for you in trying times. There's no way coronavirus can survive on that meat sauce.

[Don Rumata]

 

[Occam]

People falling into this extremely vulnerable group include:

    Solid organ transplant recipients.
    People with specific cancers:
        people with cancer who are undergoing active chemotherapy
        people with lung cancer who are undergoing radical radiotherapy
        people with cancers of the blood or bone marrow such as leukaemia, lymphoma or myeloma who are at any stage of treatment
        people having immunotherapy or other continuing antibody treatments for cancer
        people having other targeted cancer treatments which can affect the immune system, such as protein kinase inhibitors or PARP inhibitors
        people who have had bone marrow or stem cell transplants in the last 6 months, or who are still taking immunosuppression drugs

    People with severe respiratory conditions including all cystic fibrosis, severe asthma and severe COPD.

    People with rare diseases and inborn errors of metabolism that significantly increase the risk of infections (such as SCID, homozygous sickle cell).

    People on immunosuppression therapies sufficient to significantly increase risk of infection.
    Women who are pregnant with significant heart disease, congenital or acquired.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/guidance-on-shielding-and-protecting-extremely-vulnerable-persons-from-covid-19/guidance-on-shielding-and-protecting-extremely-vulnerable-persons-from-covid-19

Also smokers, fat people and people with diabetes or heart disease.

[Mr. Gundam]

My doctors aren't super sure about my susceptibility (otherwise healthy individual who just underwent Mitral valve replacement surgery) so they've said to play it safe, stay home and assume I'm at increased risk.

[bork]

Back on a regular work schedule


Although that overtime pay was nice.

[Occam]

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/03/31/coronavirus-updates-cdc-says-covid-19-symptoms-worse-for-smokers-e-cigarette-users/

If you are dumb enough to still be a smoker in 2020, you are pretty much asking for it.

[VomKriege]

YouTube just served me an inspirational ad from the French government thanking essential workers and asking us to continue being united.
  

It's well done and understated but you know... I'd rather my tax money went into better preparedness and PPE for healthcare and other workers than nice phrases.

[Mr. Gundam]

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/03/31/coronavirus-updates-cdc-says-covid-19-symptoms-worse-for-smokers-e-cigarette-users/

If you are dumb enough to still be a smoker in 2020, you are pretty much asking for it.

The house next to us is full of young renters, all in their early to mid 20's and they're all constantly smoking cigarettes or pot outside on the front porch. Seems like they're just asking for it.

[Nuitangg]

I still vape and I survived the killer vape epidemic last year.

[Potato]

At which point does it become a thing that anyone who has officially "recovered" is exempt from lockdowns and can go about their normal lives?

[OnlyRegret]

hopefully it slows down even more, although it's amazing to me that even with all the measures in place we'll still have millions of cases. How long can people stay inside?

Iceland conducted tests on a random sample of 16k people for a total population of 364k (approx. and info dated March 29) which returned 1086 positive cases. Complete stats here :https://www.covid.is/data.

Island nation and all that but for the sake of argument just assuming that 1 in 16 is correct and applying it to the USA...

The thing is our current predictions on CFR or people needing heavy medical care are mainly based on the known infections. So if the dark figures are really that much higher, it also means it's less dangerous.

If the problem is not the lethality but how fast it is spreading, we're still left with the same problems on how to reopen safely. Though a very high rate of untracked infections with benign effects, if some immunity naturally exists after carrying it, would have the problem sort of sorting itself.

High numbers of benign would be reassuring to most people

[VomKriege]

Pape Diouf (scust smiley on TheColi), former president of Marseilles football team, contracted COVID19 in Dakar and should be transferred to France.

At which point does it become a thing that anyone who has officially "recovered" is exempt from lockdowns and can go about their normal lives?

When reliable, mass, quick testing will be available.

[OnlyRegret]

At which point does it become a thing that anyone who has officially "recovered" is exempt from lockdowns and can go about their normal lives?

When a degree of persisting immunity and no longer being contagious is displayed in research.
Testing for antibodies becomes accurate and massive in scale and a means for "license to leave home" is thought of.

So, not even on the horizon atm.

[VomKriege]

Bad day for the stats of France, UK, Spain, Belgium, Netherlands and probably the USA. Italy still with a lot of fatalities though it seems things are cooling down otherwise.