Corona Thread |OT| Nu variant, who dis?

[VomKriege]

City of Nice also said wearing masks will be mandatory once lockdown start lifting under penalty of fines.

 

[Raist]

Am I wrong that you should still expect total deaths to double from the time of peak deaths, at minimum?

That's what bell-shaped curves normally imply, yes.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1247951106220740610

[VomKriege]

Di Blasio is apparently stating that suspected COVID deaths at home should be added to the total (estimated at 100 or 200 a day or so in NYC).

[shosta]

Been speaking Italian lately?

[VomKriege]

Oh joy, Macron will address us Monday. Lockdown is getting extended for certain. I guess until May 1st.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1247970747554959361

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1247951106220740610

Bojo for sure is going to have an affair with one of the nurses that blows up his newest attempt at settling down 

[Brehvolution]

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/08/829850505/millions-didnt-pay-rent-last-week-amid-pandemic-woes

The National Multifamily Housing Council says 31% of renters didn't make their payment in the first week of April. Normally, about 20% of people don't pay their rent on time. The group tracks more than 13 million units through its survey.

 

"If the rent payments drop off significantly, they won't be able to pay their staffs, they won't be able to pay their mortgages, they won't be able to pay their utilities," Bibby says. "They won't be able to pay the managers who manage their properties for them.

"I just see this cascading out throughout the whole system and just exacerbating the unemployment problem and the dislocation problem," he adds.

 

Apartment owners whining about living month to month sounds like a bad business model. They make a killing.

[Flannel Boy]

Over 1.5 million: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

1,501,061

[OnlyRegret]

Over 1.5 million: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

1,501,061

USAian deathtoll within a hop of Spain's already. It's gonna hit 2k per day today most likely.

[VomKriege]

USA atop Spain for fatalities. Will probably do the same with Italy tomorrow (more likely the day after).

[Flannel Boy]

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/08/829850505/millions-didnt-pay-rent-last-week-amid-pandemic-woes

The National Multifamily Housing Council says 31% of renters didn't make their payment in the first week of April. Normally, about 20% of people don't pay their rent on time. The group tracks more than 13 million units through its survey.

 

"If the rent payments drop off significantly, they won't be able to pay their staffs, they won't be able to pay their mortgages, they won't be able to pay their utilities," Bibby says. "They won't be able to pay the managers who manage their properties for them.

"I just see this cascading out throughout the whole system and just exacerbating the unemployment problem and the dislocation problem," he adds.

 

Apartment owners whining about living month to month sounds like a bad business model. They make a killing.

Tenants: We lost most of our income.
Landlord: I don't care if you lost most of your income, but if I lose a single cent of rent-income, I will cry poverty.

On March 31st, my landlord sent all the tenants an offer of partial rent deferral if accepted before April 1st. . . . And the options made no sense. If someone can only pay 50% of their rent on April 1st, how are they going to pay 150% on May 1st?

[OnlyRegret]

Positive rates on testing reaching almost 50% in New Jersey and 20% nationally

If Bojo only needed oxygen, that seems more like it'd fall under serious/hospitalization if you had to categorize. Him doing better is fine, don't need to stack messes on messes.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1247983937026220033

This plan of the Feds giving the national stockpile to private companies instead of the States is working out great.

[Leadbelly]

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1247970747554959361

Without consent.

"Excuse me, miss! May I choke you to death?"

[BIONIC]

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1247970747554959361

Without consent.

"Excuse me, miss! May I choke you to death?"

Sounds like mmrasu 

[Madrun Badrun]

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/cetier1/status/1248013559000264704

[Tasty]

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1247970747554959361

He's doing his part.

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In killing teenagers!

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[Madrun Badrun]

https://www.newsweek.com/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-france-heart-cardiac-1496810

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/npratc/status/1247988083376549888

[bluemax]

There's absolutely nothing I can do to change anything, and daily totals are misleading because they fluctuate so a smoothed average would be better, and I still find myself checking Worldometers and stressing myself out unnecessarily every couple hours.

I've actually stopped checking sites and this thread during the workday this week. I've found my mood is improved and I am more productive.

[Madrun Badrun]

CBC already has Ontario 40 dead a head of the offical numbers.  Tomorrow is going to be a bad day for Canada.

[Madrun Badrun]

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/CarlZha/status/1248032802861268992

[benjipwns]

The curse of the wonk.... To know every statistic.. but always be craving more

Alright, fine. I'll put a line in my stats for this season for "coronavirus, covid-19" and assign it all the left over WARP from the cancelled games.

edit: Actually, I'll do a one-time negative of the absolute value since it's going to break probably ten other columns in this.

[OnlyRegret]

Radio Free Asia reporting the Chinese burning people alive.

Breitbart:

RFA noted that it could not independently verify that the Chinese Communist Party was burning coronavirus patients alive, nor has the Communist Party confirmed or denied the rumors.

fucking CIA ops

[benjipwns]

does that kill the virus or just the patient?

[OnlyRegret]

ideally just the patient, chicoms tryna artificial selection their way to a fireproof bioweapon

[team filler]

the chicoms got it right, elections are garbage and a huge waist of money just to end up with someone you don't like anyways 

[VomKriege]

https://twitter.com/CarlZha/status/1248032802861268992

China currently thinks their first identified case was a man that had it November 17th.

Still at odds with that US intelligence memo from late November that reportedly mentions that patterns of behaviour were visibly impacted in Wuhan by an epidemy.

[shosta]

The index case of an epidemic is different from "the first person who got it".

[VomKriege]

The index case of an epidemic is different from "the first person who got it".

It's technically correct, but considering the ABC news report...

As far back as late November, U.S. intelligence officials were warning that a contagion was sweeping through China’s Wuhan region, changing the patterns of life and business and posing a threat to the population, according to four sources briefed on the secret reporting. (...) "Analysts concluded it could be a cataclysmic event"

I guess you could say the virus itself was not identified even if public authorities were aware enough of a sickness for it to be picked up by "wire and computer intercepts, coupled with satellite images" but the timelines don't fit each other too well.

And you know... SARS.

[Transhuman]

If this is how America responds to a natural epidemic imagine how badly they would get steamrolled by actual biological warfare.

[Mandark]

If this is how America responds to a natural epidemic imagine how badly they would get steamrolled by actual biological warfare.

Like we wouldn't be the aggressor.

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And yeah, probably send our troops in right after without proper PPE and wind up bringing it all home.

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[nudemacusers]

https://federalnewsnetwork.com/defense-main/2020/04/military-stop-move-order-could-go-into-august-goldfein-says/

Chief of Staff Gen. David Goldfein said the military may consider preventing troops from moving to new orders or coming home from overseas as late as August.

[Nintex]

If this is how America responds to a natural epidemic imagine how badly they would get steamrolled by actual biological warfare.

From the diary of Storm trooper Kruger Feltwebel, 1918 Germany

[thisismyusername]

If this is how America responds to a natural epidemic imagine how badly they would get steamrolled by actual biological warfare.

We already know

[Akala]

http://www.cnn.com/2020/04/08/business/coronavirus-cobol-programmers-new-jersey-trnd/index.html

unemployment surge crashing forty-year-old systems and having to find people that still understand COBOL.

 ITS MY TIME TO SHINE
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[Fifstar]

Early results of the study of a german hotspot of the corona outbreak are in. Apparently 14% of the population in Gangelt have already been infected by the virus and have developed immunity against corona. The mortality rate in Gangelt seems to be in the area of 0,35%. So this would imply a big dark figure, probably mainly from younger and asymptomatic people.
 
Doesn't help the people in ICU around the world right now, but hopefully this means this at least that all of this will be over a bit sooner.

[Pissy F Benny]

ze germans

[Flannel Boy]

MONTREAL ― More than one million jobs disappeared in Canada in March, according to the monthly labour force survey from Statistics Canada, pushing the jobless rate to 7.8 per cent.

The data showed another two million Canadians who still have work have seen their hours cut. Of those, 800,000 have seen their hours cut to zero.

As of March, 1.8 million+ Canadians lost their jobs or had their hours cut to zero (which is constructive dismissal).

[Madrun Badrun]

Are zero hours a way of keeping employees on the books until wage subsidies kick in rather than being an attempt at constructive dismissal?

[Madrun Badrun]

The fed charts are pretty poorly made

[Flannel Boy]

Are zero hours a way of keeping employees on the books until wage subsidies kick in rather than being an attempt at constructive dismissal?

The wage subsidy is retroactive to March 15.
Constructive dismissal occurs when the employer unilaterally changes the terms of employment. The employer's intent is irrelevant. A small cut in hours will be enough. The employee can accept the changes.
I assume a lot of these are independent contractors, who aren't covered in the wage subsidy at all.

[Flannel Boy]

Ontario

Number of cases: 5,759
Change from previous report: 483, a 9.2% increase
Resolved: 2,305
Deceased: 200 3.5%
Currently Under Investigation: 1,208

Number of patients hospitalized with COVID-19: 632
Number of patients in ICU7 with COVID-19:   264
Number of patients in ICU7 on a ventilator with COVID-19: 214   

[VomKriege]

Yeah I'm over Corona, next meme please.

[Mr. Gundam]

Every time I see Canada's numbers I'm just like "Oh, how quaint."

Seriously, wanna trade?

[Madrun Badrun]

Honestly, Canada as a whole isn't doing that great in terms of the death rate.  Hopefully we can make Ontario and Quebec look more like BC in the next week or so.

PM and the modeling press conferences had very annoying reporter questions.  Every second question was 'How long is this going to last?' and the PM kind of got boxed into saying a year to year-and-a-half at least and that's only if people take is seriously now and we will not be going back to normal until we have a vaccine.  Also, he started talking about this as only the first wave.   

[Madrun Badrun]

Sorry man.  Hope it turns out ok.

[Mr. Gundam]

I'll say without going into gory details;  having a pet nearly die during this sucked ass.  Had to drop him off, couldn't see him at all, if we did have to put him down there's questions of whether we can even be there (might have to soon), etc.

Really sorry, dude. Hope it ends up being ok.

[Mr. Gundam]

PM and the modeling press conferences had very annoying reporter questions.  Every second question was 'How long is this going to last?' and the PM kind of got boxed into saying a year to year-and-a-half at least and that's only if people take is seriously now and we will not be going back to normal until we have a vaccine.

But lets be honest, that's probably accurate. I'm expecting 1 1/2 years ultimately because if we let up too soon and people become complacent it will only get worse.

[Madrun Badrun]

Ya, it's completely honest, and what experts have been saying for a while, but, to repeat what the cbc said, it's sobering when politicians start saying that this is the new normal.

The conference is here if others want to watch it 

[Mr. Gundam]

Our cat passed away a few years ago. She was 19 and had a good long life but damn was it hard. We sat with her at the vets while they put her to sleep. I feel you.

Em and I ended up burying her in our front yard during a rain storm. Seemed fitting. Damn cat.

[Nintex]

Cats may have 9 lives but they break your heart once 

[nachobro]

damn sorry bro. last year we lost both my wife's childhood pet and my bff cat and it was awful, couldn't imagine it without being able to be there with them. hopefully it doesn't come to that for you guys.

[Flannel Boy]

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.05.20054361v1.full.pdf

Individuals with age <65 account for 5%-9% of all COVID-19 deaths in the 8 European epicenters, and approach 30% in three US hotbed locations.

Alternatively phrased, individuals <65 years old had 34-73 fold lower risk of COVID-19 death than older individuals. For New York City, Louisiana and Michigan, the difference was somewhat smaller, with those <65 years old having 13-15 fold smaller risk of dying than older individuals.

[Don Rumata]

I would cite obesity stats in relation to that, but i'm not sure obesity rates in the US are particularly high in NYC area, and UK have it also fairly bad, no?

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/beisan/status/1248027337372860416

No more running.