Corona Thread |OT| Nu variant, who dis?

[bork]

Was out driving and saw a couple dozen people on the street either walking, walking their dog, jogging, riding bikes. No one was wearing a mask.

Why do you need to wear a mask if you're outside and (presumably) not around other people?

[Don Rumata]

Was out driving and saw a couple dozen people on the street either walking, walking their dog, jogging, riding bikes. No one was wearing a mask.

Why do you need to wear a mask if you're outside and (presumably) not around other people?

I dunno, but it's become a dictat in some places (here for example you gotta wear one when outside, no matter what).
I guess it's one of those things of "you can't trust people to apply common sense, so you enforce more rules for everyone".

[Madrun Badrun]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/universal-basic-income-covid-coronavirus-pandemic-1.5536144

From pipe dream to prospect: the pandemic is making a case for a universal basic income

As every schoolchild knows, it was the First World War that brought Canadian women into the workplace (though of course, they had always been working). Even after the men returned from the front, women continued to work — and what was a temporary change turned into a new societal norm.

The Great War left us with another supposedly temporary measure: income tax. "I have placed no time limit upon this measure," said then finance minister Thomas White in 1917. "A year or two after the war is over, the measure should be reviewed."

We all know how that turned out.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/45Whistleblower/status/1253314256050798594

[Madrun Badrun]

[Flannel Boy]

https://twitter.com/BBCHughPym/status/1253069910093291520

[Occam]

German company Biontech has been given the go ahead to begin clinical trials with four different types of vaccines.

[Flannel Boy]

German company Biontech has been given the go ahead to begin clinical trials with four different types of vaccines.

How long are the trials for? A year?

[Flannel Boy]

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1253313304157720583

[Flannel Boy]

Ontario
Cases:  12,879 (+634)
Deaths:  713 (+54)
Hospitalizations: 887 (+9)

Backlog: 6,757 (-88)

I think that's a high for new cases and one short of a high for deaths.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/ScottGottliebMD/status/1253321483402674178

[nachobro]

Governor here extended the stay at home til the 15th and is working on a re-opening plan, which all fits with the state's original model. deaths are trending down and recoveries are trending up and we have pretty good testing so all in all new mexico is more ahead of the game than i expected.

[Occam]

German company Biontech has been given the go ahead to begin clinical trials with four different types of vaccines.

How long are the trials for? A year?

This trial (Phase II of the development) will last for several months (200 healthy people are volunteering), but they said it's unlikely that there'll be a vaccine in 2020. Phase I of vaccine development normally lasts 2-5 years, phase II and III normally take 4-7 years, so they are now doing it at record speed. There are currently 80 projects underway around the world, most of which won't succeed. The mRNA vaccines by Biontech are among the most promising ones, which is why they are the first ones to be tested in Germany.

[Madrun Badrun]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-science-1.5542294

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has announced a $1.1 billion strategy for medical research to fight COVID-19.

The plan has three components:

    $115 million for research into vaccines and treatments being developed in hospitals and universities.
    $662 million for clinical trials in Canada.
    $350 million to expand national testing and modelling for COVID-19.

[Nintex]

My business partner is making plans to re-open the office as he expects the lockdown to be lifted by the end of May.

Oh you sweet summer child.

[thisismyusername]

https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1252590195687460875

How dare they... make more money than they would under her employment.

[Tripon]

sounds like he's mastered the art of dutch directness directly sending your employees into the ICU

How does it feel to survive COVID-19 and is now likely immune to the world?

[Flannel Boy]

https://twitter.com/NYHammond/status/1253352011048849409


CFR of about 0.5%.

[bork]

https://twitter.com/KatieHill4CA/status/1253333405694980098

[Flannel Boy]

People must be shitty tippers in Kentucky;  my Barista friends make hundreds per shift in tips.

Could be the fact they serve coffee in see-through bikinis and show you their cornhole for $5.

I don't see how the bikini would hold the coffee.

[Ghoul]

https://twitter.com/KatieHill4CA/status/1253333405694980098

I just wanted Faygo, 2020 has no breaks.

[Pissy F Benny]

https://twitter.com/KatieHill4CA/status/1253333405694980098

pouring out a faygo

whoop whoop

[Flannel Boy]

Quebec
Cases: 21,838 (+873)
Deaths: 1,243 (+109)
Hospitalizations: 1,411  (+163)

Quebec and Ontario to have an R0 of around 1-1.1 until the end of time.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/sbobkov/status/1253337724775366656

[Flannel Boy]

I can bear to be with you.

 

[Flannel Boy]

https://twitter.com/CityNewsMTL/status/1253373533666914304

[Madrun Badrun]

I meant that's exactly what will happen - shut down enought to keep ICU below capacity and then try to wait it out - herd immunity is the long term end result of that.

[thetylerrob]

People must be shitty tippers in Kentucky;  my Barista friends make hundreds per shift in tips.

Could be the fact they serve coffee in see-through bikinis and show you their cornhole for $5.

But seriously at the basic trendy hipster shops in Seattle pretty sure Baristas pull in more than $600 a week in tips alone.

Average Salary in Harlan KY: $10.61
Average Salary in Seattle WA: $22.55

[Bebpo]

Was out driving and saw a couple dozen people on the street either walking, walking their dog, jogging, riding bikes. No one was wearing a mask.

Why do you need to wear a mask if you're outside and (presumably) not around other people?

Well these people were around other people. Like I get no reason to wear one on a bike, but walking around in crowded communities?

I'm just saying I was trying to make the effort to wear a mask on walks because if everyone did then we're all protecting each other, but if no one is, then I'm not going to wear one because there's no point and wearing a mask sucks on walks because you can't smell anything and besides the sun, the best part of being outside is smelling the trees/nature.

[Nintex]

I meant that's exactly what will happen - shut down enought to keep ICU below capacity and then try to wait it out - herd immunity is the long term end result of that.

Yeah it's just that a few dumb dumbs like our government and the brits didn't understand how it works.

"So the more people get it, the earlier we reach herd immunity. Just infect everyone, easy" 

"Yeah but you need 1 million ICU beds or lots will die" 

"So how many do we have?"

"About... 3, maybe 10 if we share them around"

 

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1253381705777451009

[toku]

everything as god wills

[Madrun Badrun]

https://www.saskatchewan.ca/government/news-and-media/2020/april/23/reopen-saskatchewan-plan

seems sensable. 

[Flannel Boy]

RE: NY antibody stats

It was not a representative sample. The tests came from people in grocery and big box stores.

[Transhuman]

People must be shitty tippers in Kentucky;  my Barista friends make hundreds per shift in tips.

Could be the fact they serve coffee in see-through bikinis and show you their cornhole for $5.

But seriously at the basic trendy hipster shops in Seattle pretty sure Baristas pull in more than $600 a week in tips alone.

At a normal coffee place or the titty kind?

[thisismyusername]

Third week of 4-8 hours of Webinars:





Like the worst aspects of All-staff meetings that could be put into an e-mail just with more frustration of "shit doesn't apply to my main job duties, why the fuck am I sitting here?"

[Madrun Badrun]

Damn one of my favorite restaurants is 25% off for the next month - I'm all for being a good citizen and staying at home but ...

[Madrun Badrun]

... daddy needs his pineapple fried rice. 

[VomKriege]

It's still foggy what exactly we're supposed to on May 11th in France, but apparently they would like all businesses (except bar and restaurants) opening.

[nachobro]

why not do pickup?

[Flannel Boy]

why not do pickup?

That's what he meant. There's no dine-in going on in Ontario.

[Madrun Badrun]

ya, I've just been trying to limit going out once a week for things but ...

[Madrun Badrun]

... daddy needs his pineapple fried rice. 

[Transhuman]

[thisismyusername]

Trigger Warning: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEtious will REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE because of poor folks.

https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1252590195687460875

How dare they... make more money than they would under her employment.

https://twitter.com/MattBinder/status/1252619117699502081

Well now...

https://twitter.com/MattBinder/status/1252620303349538816

https://twitter.com/rustydeal/status/1252568412741677056

[nachobro]

i really want a donut but i dunno if i want to risk going out for a donut so i feel you there.

[Madrun Badrun]

Daddy needs his donut.

[nachobro]

probably not worth it for one donut





but for a few dozen donuts it might be

[nachobro]

on 4/20 i ordered delivery donuts and the order got cancelled after like 30 min and i wanted to kill myself

this is probably better in the minor struggle thread but eh

[bork]

Was out driving and saw a couple dozen people on the street either walking, walking their dog, jogging, riding bikes. No one was wearing a mask.

Why do you need to wear a mask if you're outside and (presumably) not around other people?

Well these people were around other people. Like I get no reason to wear one on a bike, but walking around in crowded communities?

I'm just saying I was trying to make the effort to wear a mask on walks because if everyone did then we're all protecting each other, but if no one is, then I'm not going to wear one because there's no point and wearing a mask sucks on walks because you can't smell anything and besides the sun, the best part of being outside is smelling the trees/nature.

Ah OK, so they're morons.  Not staying apart is bad idea outside too.  Experienced the same thing this past weekend in my parents' neighborhood and am not going back there to walk until this shit is back to normal.

[Tripon]

Yeah, I don't know what to do when I have to go back to work at the school. Wear a mask, and hope the kids are wearing a mask? They already packed the classroom to the gills because they didn't want to hire more teachers. Good luck fitting 30 kids in a small classroom while also trying to maintain 6 feet radius.

[VomKriege]

why not do pickup?

Pickup and delivery is up. I've been told but didn't verify that some regulation here is making a difference between restaurants and "caterers" with only the latter being open. Anecdotal experience : Pickup is only possible if they can serve you directly on the street. Delivery is more limited to pizza/burger/chwarma. Anything more sophisticated is closed in both cases.

[nachobro]

i've only done food pickup at the chinese place down the street but they are only doing phone orders and you have to wait outside to get the food and pay. weed shops are still operating normally but just limited to 1-2 people inside at a time. grocery is limiting to 20% capacity.

[Madrun Badrun]

Got a little something for daddy

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[Occam]

Meanwhile in Trumpistan, the head of the vaccine effort was sidelined because he criticized the administration for promoting a noneffective malaria drug.

[Nintex]

Daddy needed his watermelon ice cream 

[Ghoul]

lol Nicotine is the goat appaently

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-nicotine-patches-to-be-tested-on-patients-after-study-suggests-smokers-less-likely-to-catch-covid-19-11977460

[BisMarckie]

Picked a great time to start again

[Occam]

That's jumping to conclusions all over the place. An earlier study showed that smokers have a higher chance of developing severe symptoms if they are infected.

"Recent evidence shows that smokers are more susceptible to severe symptoms if they contract COVID-19. In a recent study published by the New England Journal of Medicine, smokers were 2.4 times more likely to have severe symptoms from COVID-19 compared to those who did not smoke."

[StealthFan]

Haven't left the house since February. Ordered Dunkin Donuts on grubhub and it was thirty dollars  Never doing that shit again. That dunkachino was so good tho...