Corona Thread |OT| Nu variant, who dis?

[Nintex]

go to a bar nintex

No, I'm staying home until at least the end of the month.
I have asthma and there's a deadly virus out. I'm not taking any chances.

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protect dutch directness at all costs 

[Mandark]

No matter how high the death count gets in the US, Trump is going to take credit that it could have been much worse had he not done all that he did. He's going to use that 2 million number as his high bar so as long as it doesn't hit that he did his job and the country should praise him for it.

Yup, and that's why he should have been repeating that number over and over instead of continually lowballing it.

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the first president that takes credit for civilian casualties 

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https://twitter.com/VicTafur/status/1262155262682488834

 

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/VicTafur/status/1262155262682488834

 

So basically they are on a free cruise for 2 months

[Mandark]

Are there any cities or states in the US that are implementing any kind of centralized quarantine?


edit: not counting prisons. 

[Tripon]

Are there any cities or states in the US that are implementing any kind of centralized quarantine?


edit: not counting prisons. 

Gallup in New Mexico got placed in a quarantine about two weeks ago.

https://twitter.com/APWestRegion/status/1258855349475475456

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https://twitter.com/KenTremendous/status/1262183998916186112
https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1262040833320194050
https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1262043013242650625

https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1261766994270928897

https://twitter.com/covid19korea/status/1262189542662012928

[nachobro]

"modern-day trading post" is pretty demeaning

[shosta]

thanks tripon

[bluemax]

28% is closer to 1/4 than 1/3, but I suppose the point remains.

I walked my dog by a couple parks yesterday. There were people in them but it wasn't packed and everyone was spread out. Sketchiest thing I saw was when a tennis ball got out of the courts, someone outside returned it, but who is gonna be a dick about that? One park I went past on Friday there were a number of rather old people (some on breathing apparatus) sitting in it.

Meanwhile I saw pictures online that suggest that Venice beach is a free for all.

Unless like every other person starts getting it, I don't see the US trying to go backwards. It's like a bunch of grounded teenagers just got partially ungrounded but mom and dad are out of town and their lazy uncle doesn't really care that much to enforce the rules.

[Tripon]

28% is closer to 1/4 than 1/3, but I suppose the point remains.

28% is the percentage of Coronavirus deaths, 1/3 is the total of cases. I got confused too because he's mixing percentages and fractions. It's one of my pet peeves, because I know students get mixed up by that too if I'm not being careful teaching fractions, percentages and decimals and not being explicit about the conversions.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/AbraarKaran/status/1262180840190042113

[ToxicAdam]

Damn. I mean it’s fairly obvious, but you hate to see it confirmed.

I miss my gym so much.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/kharyp/status/1262074477921198082
https://twitter.com/jbirds_/status/1262144066273382406

[Fifstar]

https://twitter.com/epsilon3141/status/1261787762107322369

Bit of a misleading way to put it. Sounds like it's to date when it's actually the rolling average of the last week.

[nachobro]

Masks are now required here for everything but exercise and eating/drinking outside but the state is also providing masks to anyone who cannot get them, which seems like the smart way to do it.

[Flannel Boy]

Bored

Current Estimated Reproduction Number by State (numbers from covid19-projections.com, which seems to have had the most accurate models to date)

 Iowa   1.15
 Mississippi   1.13
 Arizona   1.12
 Texas   1.11
 New Hampshire   1.1
 Alabama   1.09
 Indiana   1.08
 South Carolina   1.08
 Missouri   1.07
 South Dakota   1.06
 Ohio   1.06
 Nebraska   1.05
 Colorado   1.04
 Minnesota   1.04
 Illinois   1.04
 North Dakota   1.03
 Utah   1.02
 New Mexico   1.02
 Delaware   1.02
 Georgia   1.01
 Maryland   1.01
 Florida   0.99
 Pennsylvania   0.97
 Virginia   0.97
 California   0.97
 Nevada   0.96
 North Carolina   0.95
 District of Columbia   0.95
 New Jersey   0.93
 Rhode Island   0.93
 Massachusetts   0.93
 Wisconsin   0.92
 Louisiana   0.91
 Kansas   0.9
 Connecticut   0.89
 Kentucky   0.87
 Tennessee   0.86
 Oklahoma   0.85
 West Virginia   0.85
 Arkansas   0.85
 Washington   0.85
 New York   0.85
 Oregon   0.83
 Michigan   0.82
 Maine   0.73
 Wyoming   0.63
 Montana   0.63
 Idaho   0.6
 Vermont   0.56
 Hawaii   0.56
 Alaska   0.49

The 12 states currently with the highest Reproduction Numbers all have Republican governors.
The bottom six states can probably thank geography and/or density (Iowa, South Dakota, North Dakota look especially bad).

[Flannel Boy]

Current Estimated Reproduction Number of the 25 Countries with the Most Cases

Chile   1.17
India   1.13
Saudi Arabia   1.13
Mexico   1.11
Brazil   1.07
Pakistan   1.04
Russia   1.02 
Sweden   0.99
USA   0.98 
Iran   0.98
Peru   0.98
Italy   0.97
UK   0.96 
Canada   0.96 
France   0.94
Ecuador   0.93
Netherlands   0.92
Spain   0.89
Germany   0.88
Belgium   0.86
Switzerland   0.82
Turkey   0.77
China   0.61
Qatar   Unknown
Belarus   Unknown

[Flannel Boy]

COVID-19 All Stars
Slovakia went from a reproduction rate of 2.05 to low of .054, the Czech Republic went from 2.15 to a low of 0.56, and Spain went from 3.21 to low of 0.83.

[Leadbelly]

https://twitter.com/epsilon3141/status/1261787762107322369

Bit of a misleading way to put it. Sounds like it's to date when it's actually the rolling average of the last week.

Sweden, similar to the UK, failed to protect the elderly in care homes. A large percentage of the deaths in Sweden came from care homes.

Sweden’s health authorities are blaming the country’s death toll – which is higher than in neighbouring Denmark, Norway and Finland – on the fatality rate in care homes.

About 90% of the 3,700 people who have died from coronavirus in Sweden were over 70, and half were living in care homes, according to a study from Sweden’s National Board of Health and Welfare at the end of April.

“We failed to protect our elderly. That’s really serious, and a failure for society as a whole,” health minister Lena Hallengren told Swedish Television.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/16/across-the-world-figures-reveal-horrific-covid-19-toll-of-care-home-deaths

[Tripon]

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https://twitter.com/LasVegasLocally/status/1262470854144700416

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/jc_bradbury/status/1262538484931272704
https://twitter.com/dancingtortuga/status/1262457439041064960
https://twitter.com/dancingtortuga/status/1262457976662773765

[Mandark]

Sweden, similar to the UK, failed to protect the elderly in care homes. A large percentage of the deaths in Sweden came from care homes.

just spitballin' here but maybe it becomes harder to protect people from an airborne virus as it becomes more prevalent in the general population

[shosta]

I wonder who works in and cleans care homes

[Leadbelly]

Coincidently, it was the first thing I saw on the BBC website just now. Posted like 3 hours ago.

Kind of explains whats going on in Swedish care homes. Explains some of it anyway.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52704836

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[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/maria_rendon97/status/1262389337506881536

Oh man. 

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Undefeated UFC lightweight champion Khabib Nurmagomedov on Monday confirmed reports of his father being in critical condition due to the coronavirus.

Speaking on Instagram in Russian, Nurmagomedov, 31, confirmed that his father, Abdulmanap Nurmagomedov, recently underwent heart surgery due to complications stemming from a previous ailment and the coronavirus. He went on to encourage people around the world to remain in self-isolation to combat the pandemic.

"In my personal case, I've had more than 20 people sick from my family," Nurmagomedov said in comments translated by ESPN. "More than 20 people were lying in the ICUs. And many of them are no longer among us. Many acquaintances have died, many parents of my relatives. Everybody is having a hard time dealing with it.

Justin Gaethje punches his ticket for entry into pound-for-pound rankings
"There is a lot written on the internet about my father. My father, right now, is located in a hospital. He is in critical condition as a result of this virus. It impacted his heart because last year he had a surgery there, and right now, they did another surgery. He is in a very difficult situation, very difficult. We are asking Allah that he returns him to us."

https://www.espn.com/mma/ufc/story/_/id/29192045/khabib-nurmagomedov-father-critical-condition-coronavirus

[ToxicAdam]

I’ve determined the common denominator  of all Covid cases are roofs. Time for a roof-free society.

[Great Rumbler]

https://twitter.com/maria_rendon97/status/1262389337506881536

Oh man. 

 

[bluemax]

https://twitter.com/CBSLA/status/1262559973109837824

My work sent out an email today, apparently they're gonna start phasing people back to the office in New York in early June. But in LA we stay home until the safer at home thing is over, so at least end of July.

[shosta]

twitter.com/maria_rendon97/status/1262389337506881536

Oh man. 

"But if you're acting silly, we've got a jail that's got a whole lot of empty holes."

[Tripon]

PARIS — Just one week after a third of French schoolchildren went back to school in an easing of coronavirus lockdowns, a worrying flareup of about 70 COVID-19 cases has been linked to schools.

Some lower grades were opened last week, and 150,000 more junior high students went back to the classroom Monday as further restrictions were loosened by the government. The move initially spelled relief: the end of homeschooling for hundreds of thousands of exhausted French parents, many of whom were also working from home.

But Education Minister Jean-Michel Blanquer sounded the alarm Monday, telling French radio RTL that the return has put some children in new danger of contamination. He said the affected schools are being closed immediately. French media reported that seven schools in northern France were closed.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/70-cases-covid-19-french-191428650.html

[thisismyusername]

It's almost like... people should stay the fuck home until the vaccine (in a year) is solved/cured/fixed/whatever you want to call it.

[Mandark]

Going by South Korea etc, if you get the numbers down low enough and are aggressive enough in testing and tracing, then you can resume a certain amount of activity pre-vaccine AND avoid new waves of mass infection.

Don't know the political situation regarding the virus in France, but so far the US has been steadfastly not learning a damn thing from the success cases so far.

[Tripon]

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[Fifstar]

https://twitter.com/epsilon3141/status/1261787762107322369

Bit of a misleading way to put it. Sounds like it's to date when it's actually the rolling average of the last week.

Sweden, similar to the UK, failed to protect the elderly in care homes. A large percentage of the deaths in Sweden came from care homes.

I think pretty much every country failed at protecting elderly homes. There are lots of stories in different countries. For example France had to greatly increase it's death numbers retrospectively when they took death cases in care homes into account. This is probably just a symptom of most modern societies just not giving a fuck about their elderly population. Mandark is probably right though that a high prevalence of covid in the general population increases the risk of infection events in care homes.

Also, that quoted graph shows that the daily/weekly death numbers per capita have been decreasing much slower in Sweden than in other countries. If you ignore the peak at the end of april, they seem almost flat since the 10th of April. If it's so easy to pinpoint the problem to not protecting elderly homes, why haven't they done something about it by now?

[thisismyusername]

https://cbs12.com/news/local/woman-who-designed-floridas-covid-19-dashboard-has-been-removed-from-her-position

[Occam]

You should at least be getting free bananas in a banana republic. Are you getting free bananas?

[Flannel Boy]

Ten Countries that Reduced their Basic Reproduction Number the Most (form Peak to Low)

Estonia      21% of peak
Malta      26%
Spain      26%
Czech Republic   26%
Slovakia   26%
Israel   28%
Algeria   31%
Iceland      31%
Latvia      31%

source: https://covid19-projections.com/
calculations: mine

Related
Highest peaks:
Country   high
Spain   3.21
Italy   2.45
United Kingdom   2.43
Netherlands   2.42
Belgium   2.36
Portugal   2.36
Israel   2.34
Iran   2.29
Algeria   2.26

https://covid19-projections.com/ now estimates the States' Basic Reproduction Number to be 0.99 and rising (was at 0.91 on April 23).

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/angie_rasmussen/status/1262744880591171585

[ToxicAdam]

They just changed business models.

[CatsCatsCats]

So, in Oregon, temporary lay offs only excuse you from seeking work for 4 weeks. So now I’m going to be forced to look for work, and if I get an offer, to accept it, or I will lose unemployment. Current job has no plan for ending furlough yet. I’m fucked.

[shosta]

New outbreaks in Jilin and Wuhan! I bet they can manage it even faster than they did the first time, though.

[Mandark]

So, in Oregon, temporary lay offs only excuse you from seeking work for 4 weeks. So now I’m going to be forced to look for work, and if I get an offer, to accept it, or I will lose unemployment. Current job has no plan for ending furlough yet. I’m fucked.

Is this a result of the court striking down the emergency declaration?

Cause otherwise I think you should be good.

[Nintex]

Going by South Korea etc, if you get the numbers down low enough and are aggressive enough in testing and tracing, then you can resume a certain amount of activity pre-vaccine AND avoid new waves of mass infection.

Don't know the political situation regarding the virus in France, but so far the US has been steadfastly not learning a damn thing from the success cases so far.

Europe as a whole pretends South Korea doesn't exist for some reason to cover up the fact that they 'fucked up'.

Some countries still maintain that there's no scientific proof that masks work as that would make everyone less vigilant.

[CatsCatsCats]

So, in Oregon, temporary lay offs only excuse you from seeking work for 4 weeks. So now I’m going to be forced to look for work, and if I get an offer, to accept it, or I will lose unemployment. Current job has no plan for ending furlough yet. I’m fucked.

Is this a result of the court striking down the emergency declaration?

Cause otherwise I think you should be good.

Nah, that supremes stayed that boi. Oregon isn’t/hasn’t implemented a lot of the CARES act into their systems and you literally can’t get through their phone lines. If I mark “temporarily unemployed” for a fourth time in their system, I’m quite certain it’s just going to deny the weekly claim. I think I’m just going to have to do my best to fulfill my legal obligation of work search without getting a job I don’t want

[Bebpo]

So, in Oregon, temporary lay offs only excuse you from seeking work for 4 weeks. So now I’m going to be forced to look for work, and if I get an offer, to accept it, or I will lose unemployment. Current job has no plan for ending furlough yet. I’m fucked.

Is this a result of the court striking down the emergency declaration?

Cause otherwise I think you should be good.

Nah, that supremes stayed that boi. Oregon isn’t/hasn’t implemented a lot of the CARES act into their systems and you literally can’t get through their phone lines. If I mark “temporarily unemployed” for a fourth time in their system, I’m quite certain it’s just going to deny the weekly claim. I think I’m just going to have to do my best to fulfill my legal obligation of work search without getting a job I don’t want

That sucks

[Tripon]

Even before COVID-19 officially had a name, public health officials said the virus could be transmitted through infected respiratory droplets and by touching infected surfaces and then touching your nose, mouth, and possibly your eyes. So, people began snatching up face masks, wearing gloves, and ramping up hand hygiene to try to protect themselves.

While touching infected surfaces has always been part of the messaging on how the virus spreads, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recently shifted its stance online. The CDC now says that COVID-19 spreads from person to person contact, and then lists touching infected surfaces under a section titled, "The virus does not spread easily in other ways." The CDC adds: “This is not thought to be the main way the virus spreads, but we are still learning more about this virus.” The language is a subtle change from the organization’s warning in early March, when it wrote simply that it “may be possible” to spread the virus through contaminated surfaces.

The CDC, which did not respond to Yahoo Life’s request for comment, still recommends that you wash your hands often with soap and water, and routinely clean and disinfect frequently touched surfaces to protect yourself and others from the virus.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/cdc-coronavirus-mainly-spreads-through-persontoperson-contact-and-does-not-spread-easily-on-contaminated-surfaces-153317029.html

[Tuckers Law]

Work started doing our biweekly covid testing on staff this week.  I’ve not had a swab placed that far up my nose before, was an interesting experience to say the least.

[VomKriege]

France actually subtracted 200~ deaths today, apparently a small portion of death in care homes were ruled as not COVID linked contrary to what was assumed initially. Numbers trending in the right direction but it's only been one week since relaxing lockdown started. Workplace regulations are somewhat heavy.

France did overtake Spain in total fatalities so far and we're only 4k shy of Italy. I guess that's the "gain" of locking a week earlier than over the Alps... More refined study of excess mortality will maybe paint a different picture. Though Italy took a lot of of spotlight and an amount of somewhat condescending pity for being first in the furnace but now that the UK passed them and is still digging that hole we can spare PIGS the sick man of Europe spiel.

[brawndolicious]

Going by South Korea etc, if you get the numbers down low enough and are aggressive enough in testing and tracing, then you can resume a certain amount of activity pre-vaccine AND avoid new waves of mass infection.

Don't know the political situation regarding the virus in France, but so far the US has been steadfastly not learning a damn thing from the success cases so far.

Europe as a whole pretends South Korea doesn't exist for some reason to cover up the fact that they 'fucked up'.

Some countries still maintain that there's no scientific proof that masks work as that would make everyone less vigilant.

Reminds me of 50 years ago when automakers said crumple zones and seat belts are bad because all injuries in a car accident are due to operator error.

Time to establish the right and wrong sides of history.

[shosta]

Braved a haircut today because I have an interview, I'm feeling fresh but I'm so worried I'm gonna wake up sick tomorrow 

[kingv]

Work started doing our biweekly covid testing on staff this week.  I’ve not had a swab placed that far up my nose before, was an interesting experience to say the least.

We can only hope the next virus is related to our prostates

[shosta]

I didn't see anybody but staff wearing a mask at the grocery store today same shit everywhere I walked past. Patrons not wearing masks, workers afraid of getting sick. we're fucked brehs

[Mandark]

Do you think the US hits 100k by Monday

That really depends.

I'd need to figure out what day of the week it is today.

[shosta]

thinking about calling it the Boomer Remover again

[Coffee Dog]

I needed a haircut in March for fuck's sake, I just have to embrace the man bun at this point or something. We never really shut down so I dont trust anyone not have been exposed to it for a two week period.