Corona Thread |OT| Nu variant, who dis?

[Tripon]

That's a first. The black plauge gives you immunization against covid? Wut. 

I don't think there's any clear explanation yet as to why minorities tend to be more affected.

However, conceptually, that's not crazy - although the terms used here are wrong. Europeans have a slightly higher resistance against HIV infection potentially because of a now relatively common mutation that was selected for during the black plague epidemic(s).

There's some researchers who are looking why Asia seems to be doing relatively better, specifically at Vietnam right now and they seem to think past experiences with SARS-COV-1 and MERS helped the population produce enough resistance via T-cells to recognize SARS-COV-2 to blunt the most serious effects.

Which goes to show that the world needs to be way more proactive in developing vaccines and treatments to diseases and viruses that they think they contained and die off.

The idea of generalised immunity was “an entirely reasonable hypothesis,” but as yet there was no evidence that it was behind Vietnam’s ability to fight the virus, Prof Thwaites said.

“It’s a potential idea and it’s something that we can work on. We’ve done work on coronaviruses before. We have the ability to test that hypothesis quite easily and we will do.”

Scientists in Singapore which, like Vietnam, was badly hit by Sudden Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) in 2003, are already actively exploring the concept.

“The possibility that in some rural areas there is a higher level of pre-existing immunity is something that we are actively studying,” Professor Antonio Bertoletti, a specialist in infectious diseases at the Duke-NUS Medical School, told The Telegraph.

Prof Bertoletti led a research team that recently uncovered the presence of virus-specific T cell immunity in people who recovered from COVID-19 and SARS, as well as some healthy study subjects who had never been infected by either virus.

T cells, along with antibodies, are an integral part of the human immune response against viral infections due to their ability to directly target and kill infected cells.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/08/01/vietnam-miracle-escape-covid-may-natural-immunity/

[Raist]

It was a given that SARS and MERS vaccine projects were going to get dropped pretty quick given how small, short, and not really spreading outside the outbreak zone those were.

This stuff costs hundreds of millions to develop and test - so carrying on just off the chance that it may end up useful 10 years later for a related virus is never going to happen.
That's not even then taking into account the costs for production, distribution, etc. Not to mention that likewise, people likely won't queue up to get vaccinated for a virus that was a blip on the radar just in case a similar one that spreads more might show up later.

[Straight Edge]

My sister-in-law took her daughter to a Girl Scout sleepover at a cabin and caught Covid and then had a birthday party with the whole extended family the following weekend. My wife and I did not attend.

[Raist]

That's a first. The black plauge gives you immunization against covid? Wut. 

I don't think there's any clear explanation yet as to why minorities tend to be more affected.

However, conceptually, that's not crazy - although the terms used here are wrong. Europeans have a slightly higher resistance against HIV infection potentially because of a now relatively common mutation that was selected for during the black plague epidemic(s).

There is a clear explanation as to why minorities are getting hit harder, at least in America: They're poorer and therefore have worse to nonexistent healthcare, worse nutrition, front line jobs that can't be done from home that they can't not go to because they don't have the financial stability to do so that exposes them to the virus, and all of these combined with more underlying health conditions that aren't being treated well to begin with.

I don't think it's that simple. In the UK there's some indication that minority healthcare workers have been more affected too - that includes doctors.

[BIONIC]

That's a first. The black plauge gives you immunization against covid? Wut. 

I don't think there's any clear explanation yet as to why minorities tend to be more affected.

However, conceptually, that's not crazy - although the terms used here are wrong. Europeans have a slightly higher resistance against HIV infection potentially because of a now relatively common mutation that was selected for during the black plague epidemic(s).

There is a clear explanation as to why minorities are getting hit harder, at least in America: They're poorer and therefore have worse to nonexistent healthcare, worse nutrition, front line jobs that can't be done from home that they can't not go to because they don't have the financial stability to do so that exposes them to the virus, and all of these combined with more underlying health conditions that aren't being treated well to begin with.

I don't think it's that simple. In the UK there's some indication that minority healthcare workers have been more affected too - that includes doctors.

Maybe the size and shape of their skulls has something to do with it?

Worth looking into imo.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/lapublichealth/status/1290402074535108608

[VomKriege]

Girlfriend tested negative too.
I did 9 days of semi-self isolation, glad it's ok though.

[team filler]

[Oblivion]

so is the new tone i've heard so much about?

https://twitter.com/hunterw/status/1290438561733509121

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

I’m surprised he’s not begging for a donation in it. All his campaign emails are pretty shameless.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChrisMegerian/status/1284999794054909964

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/Freeyourmindkid/status/1290626349426671617
No plan

[Tripon]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/02/world/europe/russia-trials-vaccine-October.html


Russia going to give everyone their version of the coronavirus vaccine in October after a smaller phase 3 trial in October.

[Flannel Boy]

A new study by Public Health Ontario suggests that the number of people who have been infected by COVID-19 in the province has been a tiny fraction of its total population. . .

From June 5 to 30, the study found 1.1 per cent of the samples were positive for COVID-19 antibodies.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/new-study-finds-a-tiny-fraction-of-ontari-has-been-infected-with-covid-19-1.5673201

After removing some deaths from the total, I calculate an IFR of ~1.7-1.8%. It's probably that high because this hit long term care homes hard and most of the cases occurred early in the pandemic before treatment options improved.

[Mr. Gundam]

I had my yearly checkup with my GP the other week and as I was leaving I joked "hopefully I don't see you for a year!" and he was all "Oh no, I hope to see you much sooner. If the Covid tests work and it's effective, you'll be one of the first to get it."

So yay?

[zomgee]

lol you're old

[Flannel Boy]

Not a fan of this:
https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1290478251601588231

The US numbers suck, but there's no reason to be deceptive about it.

I assume this was for yesterday. Spain had 3,044 new cases yesterday, which would be the equivalent of 21k at the States' population. France had +556 new cases, but +2,820 the day before. Canada's doing much better, but the numbers are probably down because we just had a long weekend (I think a number of provinces weren't even reporting).

[Mr. Gundam]

lol you're old

I'm on Warfarin due to my mechanical heart valve so I'm already at an increased risk of clots. I'm finally back to running (4 miles yesterday!) after being sidelined a few years so I'd rather not fuck things up. But yes, I'm old.

[zomgee]

lol you're old

I'm on Warfarin due to my mechanical heart valve so I'm already at an increased risk of clots. I'm finally back to running (4 miles yesterday!) after being sidelined a few years so I'd rather not fuck things up. But yes, I'm old.

It makes a lot of sense that you'd be first in line then. I hope it is much sooner than later because of your condition!

[Flannel Boy]

Not a fan of this:
https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1290478251601588231

The US numbers suck, but there's no reason to be deceptive about it.

I assume this was for yesterday. Spain had 3,044 new cases yesterday, which would be the equivalent of 21k at the States' population. France had +556 new cases, but +2,820 the day before. Canada's doing much better, but the numbers are probably down because we just had a long weekend (I think a number of provinces weren't even reporting).

Spain +5,760

[Mandark]

Kettle logic all day everyday with these people.

[Mandark]

https://twitter.com/Kevin_Lytle/status/1290766084212174848

[Oblivion]

why would anyone think the virus won't be able to spread on college campuses in the first place?

https://twitter.com/Kevin_Lytle/status/1290766084212174848

that sounds illegal as fuck

[Transhuman]

That ought to be a crime, but I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't

[stufte]

Schools prioritizing sPoRtS over the well being of their students you say? I'm shocked and surprised.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/lapublichealth/status/1290788393685782529

[Tripon]

https://www.ocregister.com/social-butterfly-vera-pavelec-one-of-four-pals-testing-positive-after-huntington-beach-party-dies-of-covid

“‘She was a social butterfly,” said daughter Lisa Pavelec-Martinez, 45. “She had to hug this person and chat with that person. My brother and I were like, ‘Mom, let’s go.’”

Pavelec died at age 71 on July 27 from complications of COVID-19. The Huntington Beach native came down with symptoms a few days after attending a mid-June birthday celebration at a hometown bar. Four of the six friends would become sick, as well some of their family members.

Among the buddies who ended up fighting coronavirus was Dominic Menaldi, a colorful Surf City character. Over the years, Menaldi has transformed his head-turning “castle house” into a haunted mansion on Halloween. The bodyguard also grabbed attention two decades ago in a “Man Vs. Bear” wrestling match.

Her close friend Maria Lupita noted that Pavelec did not fit the stereotype of an “elderly” person succumbing to the disease.

“She was very healthy,” Lupita said. “I’m 48, and she could outdo me any day of the week. Vera lit up a room.”

For months, Pavelec took the risks of contracting coronavirus seriously – staying at home, for the most part, and wearing a mask when she ran errands.

But then she started letting her guard down a bit, her daughter said.

Pavelec posted a video and photos on Facebook of the June 12 birthday gathering at Tumbleweeds in Huntington Beach. This was an interlude when Gov. Gavin Newsom briefly allowed restaurants to reopen for indoor dining at reduced capacity.

In the images, Pavelec and her friends enjoy the night –  dancing, arms draped over one another’s shoulders, no face masks.

Tumbleweeds owner Frank Tahvildari said he learned about the group’s fate weeks later on Facebook. None of his employees have tested positive for COVID-19, he said.

“We have a policy: Our employees must wear masks at all times,” Tahvildari said. “People make comments to them like, ‘You don’t have to wear that thing.’ Yes, they do.”

Tahvildari was not at the restaurant on the night in question, but said signs were posted asking customers to wear masks and stay off the dance floor.

“People don’t want to listen,” he said.

Dominic Menaldi stands in front of his castle house in Huntington Beach in 2016. He is known for transforming the house into a haunted castle on Halloween night. Menaldi was one of four friends who became ill with COVID-19 after attending a birthday party in a bar mid-June. Menaldi recovered by his friend Vera Pavelec died on July 27. (Photo by Ed Crisostomo, Orange County Register/SCNG)

Menaldi announced his illness on Facebook June 25. The previous weekend, on June 20, he took part in a counterprotest at a Black Lives Matter rally in Huntington Beach. Claiming that protesters deliberately spread the virus, he wrote, “If I die, it’s murder.”

On July 30, Menaldi posted that he had recovered – describing in detail his horrific experience with coronavirus as well as his grief over the loss of Pavelec.

He did not return requests for comment.

[Oblivion]

the guy from the article:



doesn't look like he learned much from the experience 

[EchoRin]

CSU of all schools 

Bro, nobody expects anything out of you in any sport anyways. Just play with who is healthy and see what happens. You ain't no Ohio State or whatever.

[Akala]

Local schools delaying starting classes a few weeks. Now set for after LDW.

legit surprised, good on them.

[bluemax]

CHANDLER, AZ — Parents who don't want their kids to be forced to wear a mask are looking for schools where mask-wearing is an option. Such is the case for Christy Raban, who tells ABC15 she felt like she was part of the "minority" when it came to her children having to wear a mask when they go back to in-person learning.

Raban and about 1,400 other parents are part of a social media group called 'Mask-free Schooling options' that looks for schools where mask-wearing isn't enforced.

"It's the fact that they need to go back to school in person and of course, not be wearing masks," says Raban.

Raban pulled her kids from Fulton Elementary and San Tan Junior High a few weeks ago, after Chandler Unified School District announced teachers and students would be wearing a mask while attending school. She searched school options and went with American Leadership Academy- Gilbert North primarily because of the flexibility on wearing masks.

"They are adamant about if a child wants to wear a mask, that child will be supported and if a child doesn't, they will be too...I'm looking forward to the change, having my kids there," added Raban.

Dr.Rachel Deathrage is a pediatrician who participated in a back-to-school online town hall session on ABC15's Facebook page. She took part in a re-opening task force for a Phoenix school district. During the town hall, Dr. Deathrage said masking is one of the key factors in containing the spread and advised the district that if they went back to school, students and teachers should be wearing masks.

"I know there are a lot of people who are fearful about who should be masking. I just want to reassure everyone that... the CDC already has guidelines that those under 2 shouldn't and those who physically can't remove a mask," said Dr. Deathrage.

ABC15 reached out to the American Leadership Academy to clarify whether they will make mask-wearing an option, given Governor Ducey's Executive Order where he states that schools both public and charter, should have mask-wearing mandates for in-person schooling.

In a statement, the charter school said, "It is not ALA’s intent to mandate a mask policy. However, if on August 17, we are required by law to enforce wearing masks, we will follow the law...we believe that parents are best equipped to make these decisions for the students."

After this statement was issued, we reached out to the ALA once again, asking if the executive order's language serves as the "law." ABC15 did not hear back from the ALA.

https://www.abc15.com/news/getting-back-to-school/charter-school-says-they-wont-mandate-a-mask-policy-as-some-parents-want-options-that-dont-force-mask-use

Rachel Deathrage? That's the most badass last name ever.

http://www.dakstats.com/WebSync/Pages/Team/IndividualStats.aspx?association=10&sg=MFB&sea=NAIMFB_2009&team=2277&plr=101445

[Mr. Gundam]

Nearly every single school district in Western Washington is going online only. Seattle managed to get enough technology funding to supply all kids K-2 with an iPad and 3-12 a Chromebook. The plan at the moment is a full day of online instruction and my daughter is a hardcore rule follower and will do well with this, but I'll be interested to see how it goes for other kids.

Also, our tribe is using some of their CARES funds to buy all the kids an iPad or a laptop for school, which is awesome. We'd been talking about getting her one, but now we don't have to and while we can afford it, it's still much appreciated.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/KNX1070/status/1291036786219720707

Lie.jpg

[Cauliflower Of Love]

I couldn't find this thread cause it was stickied and I though Corona was over.

damn you bork! :shakesfist

[Joe Molotov]

I couldn't find this thread cause it was stickied and I though Corona was over.

damn you bork! :shakesfist

It's not over, we're just done pretending to care about it.

[james]

I couldn't find this thread cause it was stickied and I though Corona was over.

damn you bork! :shakesfist

Please let your voice be heard against the tyrant bork

http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=47526.0

[james]

So much for heard immunity

https://twitter.com/samueloakford/status/1291073324110565377

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/TorontoStar/status/1290634502868480001

[BisMarckie]

I‘ve managed to hold on to most of my hair for 37 years, I will not endanger this success story.

That‘s it, I am taking this shit seriously now. 

[jorma]

I‘ve managed to hold on to most of my hair for 37 years, I will not endanger this success story.

That‘s it, I am taking this shit seriously now. 

(Image removed from quote.)

that's just his undercover pic

the real deal:

[Madrun Badrun]

Ontario was  86+ new cases and zero deaths today.  Pretty good.

[Joe Molotov]

[Madrun Badrun]

Also forgot my mask today so got a free one at Starbucks. 

[Pissy F Benny]

[Joe Molotov]

[Joe Molotov]

Even without the coronavirus, I'm not sure about this comic's message of sneaking up behind random sad girls and unexpectedly kissing them.

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/NYDailyNews/status/1291134412814520322

[Lonewulfeus]

Almost literally blowing smoke up their asses

[EchoRin]

Blame Anthony Kiedis for including the line "so smart she's leading me to ozone" in the song Can't Stop. Pseudoscience be pseudosciencing.

[Nintex]

https://mobile.twitter.com/NYDailyNews/status/1291134412814520322

Bolsonaro will try this and end up in the hospital

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/lapublichealth/status/1291139685335609344

L.A. County said they're been undercounted for at least two weeks. 
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https://twitter.com/Freeyourmindkid/status/1291137066500333571

Can't wait for this school to pull dress code.

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https://twitter.com/KNX1070/status/1291173274932699137

[james]

You may have seen the photo of hundreds of children crowded in a narrow hallways without maks but let me put it in context.

The context is that it only happens 7 times a day.

Thank you.

[OnlyRegret]

You may have seen the photo of hundreds of children crowded in a narrow hallways without maks but let me put it in context.

The context is that it only happens 7 times a day.

Thank you.

plaguefather's number 

[james]

I can't believe multiple states are opening schools.

No masks requirements. No plastic between desks. Nothing.

They had 5 months to prepare and did nothing.

We are so absolutely fucked.

These motherfuckers are going to ruin 2021 too.

 

[Kara]

Yup, we're at the mercy of Sleepy Joe and the KKKorporate Demᛋᛋ in his administration. Inspiring!

[shosta]

They had 5 months to prepare and did nothing.

I think a lot of people (mostly of one political inclination) convinced themselves there would be no second wave.

[OnlyRegret]

I can't believe multiple states are opening schools.

No masks requirements. No plastic between desks. Nothing.

They had 5 months to prepare and did nothing.

We are so absolutely fucked.

These motherfuckers are going to ruin 2021 too.

 

can't wait for you fucks to buy up massive amounts of vaccine in order for half your population to refuse it

[james]

What's going to happen at Christmas guys

[chronovore]

The school district my wife teaches for gave 4 options to them:

Come back on day one.
Use personal days until they expire then come back (4-6 weeks usually)
Use a mixture of FMLA and personal days (approx 12 weeks)
Resign or Retire

I told her to take the full 12, let them flop around and figure a system out in those three months. Don’t be a guinea pig.

Told my sister the same advice. Reopening is performative subjugation.

[EchoRin]

I can't believe multiple states are opening schools.

I can't believe some kids go to school in August. 

What's going to happen at Christmas guys

I'm going to go home to visit my family and we will all die from COVID due to my arrogance.

[jorma]

I don't think any of the euro countries who reopened their schools experienced any sort of increase in the spread of the virus, opening them should be a no brainer at this point because schools being open don't drive the spread and they are pretty essential to society.