Author Topic: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster (Read 1307525 times)

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/ukip-leadership-row-highprofile-figures-barred-from-succeeding-nigel-farage-after-ridiculous-a3293386.html

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36756379

Told you UKIP would implode. Not even a month out of Europe and party members are leaving. But then it's likely also related to a former party member, who was a former MEP they tried to string up for expenses fraud when she challenged Farage's authority, was cleared because they have evidence she was being set up by UKIP leaders who are also being investigated regarding their expenses (Which is still ongoing)

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/11/former-ukip-mep-nikki-sinclaire-cleared-expenses-fraud

Suddenly a shitload of rumors about how UKIP was run and crooked as fuck get proven true in a matter of weeks while the leaders who profited the most retire and abandon the party.

naff · « **Reply #2299 on:** July 12, 2016, 07:09:25 PM »

Quote from: Kara on July 04, 2016, 08:57:34 AM

It really plays to ageist bigotry for older Britons to campaign / vote to leave the EU and then go and walk away from leading the country through the process.

Seems the brexiteers now laud them leaving as necessary for the nation to start fresh and move away from the controversial imagery formed by Farage and Johnson. It does look like smart political engineering, have the (unofficial) faces of the leave campaign make an emotional appeal to the base desires of racist english nationalists, then controversially win on that note, and have them resign paving the way for the more moderate, rational conservative leadership - ~~Michael Gove~~ Theresa May, man I really need to keep up with this stuff...

Win on xenophobia and bad policy promises, then provide scapegoats for not delivering on those dumb promises

brob · « **Reply #2300 on:** July 13, 2016, 03:01:35 PM »

Quote from: brob on June 30, 2016, 08:48:00 AM

tbf theresa may is a much better pick to lead britain as an isolationist hellpit

good on boris recognizing talent and getting out of the way

https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/753300016299638785

real recognize real

Take My Breh Away · « **Reply #2301 on:** July 13, 2016, 03:49:44 PM »

Quote from: brob on July 13, 2016, 03:01:35 PM

Quote from: brob on June 30, 2016, 08:48:00 AM
tbf theresa may is a much better pick to lead britain as an isolationist hellpit

good on boris recognizing talent and getting out of the way

https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/753300016299638785

real recognize real

chronovore · « **Reply #2302 on:** July 13, 2016, 09:38:29 PM »

Quote from: Mary Tyler Whore on July 11, 2016, 11:30:37 AM

Abe's party gains six seats in the latest election. Right wing nationalism is definitely on the upswing worldwide.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/07/10/does-this-religious-cult-run-japan.html

As a permanent resident, I'm sick of Abe's rule here. He should have been disqualified for being back in charge after he quit from depression the first time. His economic ("ABENOMICS") policies are utterly, provably shit. He's restricted freedom of the press both in law, and in policies which abuse the social contracts this country holds sacrosanct. Because his buddies got hurt feels.

It makes me sick.

Take My Breh Away · « **Reply #2303 on:** July 14, 2016, 05:36:34 AM »

https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/753519967442759680

fizzel · « **Reply #2304 on:** July 14, 2016, 08:27:53 AM »

It's a pretty solid cabinet otherwise. 'kin 'ell at boris though.

Samson Manhug · « **Reply #2305 on:** July 14, 2016, 01:06:10 PM »

Boris Johnson as foreign secretary? Seriously?

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #2306 on:** July 14, 2016, 01:09:19 PM »

If they want to be more isolationist, seems like a good choice to me.

VomKriege · « **Reply #2307 on:** July 14, 2016, 06:25:26 PM »

A truck drove directly (and shot, unclear ?) into the crowd gathered for the firework display at the Promenade des Anglais at Nice in the south of France. Perhaps 30 dead, if not more, maybe thrice injured. Driver was confirmed shot dead by the prefect, citizens told to stay at home, and a massive security perimeter has been established.

The new normal $:-\$

EDIT : 73 dead as of now. Identity and motive of the driver still unknown or undisclosed.

curly · « **Reply #2308 on:** July 14, 2016, 07:16:49 PM »

Jesus, another one?

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #2309 on:** July 14, 2016, 07:19:38 PM »

VomKriege · « **Reply #2310 on:** July 14, 2016, 07:22:02 PM »

Quote from: curly on July 14, 2016, 07:16:49 PM

Jesus, another one?

Latest is that the driver was armed with several guns. However we don't know who he is at this point.

chronovore · « **Reply #2311 on:** July 14, 2016, 07:22:38 PM »

God damnit. :'(

VomKriege · « **Reply #2312 on:** July 14, 2016, 08:15:45 PM »

Less than two weeks before the end of the state of emergency that was confirmed by Hollande today too

Is Israeli-like policing and counter-terrorism our future ?

Rufus · « **Reply #2313 on:** July 14, 2016, 08:31:06 PM »

I hope not, but it's not looking good. $:-\$

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #2314 on:** July 14, 2016, 09:40:16 PM »

Per Agence France Presse:

- Death toll is 77 and seems to be rising
- The truck was loaded with heavy weapons
- There were identity papers of a French-Tunisian man (not sure if suspect)

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #2315 on:** July 14, 2016, 09:53:50 PM »

http://www.news.com.au/world/explosions-rock-brussels/news-story/45690ba94bb08acb9598553487b64006

Brussels getting fucked up now too

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #2316 on:** July 14, 2016, 09:58:27 PM »

Jesus

Kara · « **Reply #2317 on:** July 14, 2016, 11:50:18 PM »

I'm glad that I lived long enough to see headlines like "Pokemon at Holocaust Museum?" and porn streaming sites honoring the fallen.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #2318 on:** July 15, 2016, 12:11:34 AM »

fuck

VomKriege · « **Reply #2319 on:** July 15, 2016, 04:15:51 AM »

French state of emergency to be extended three months instead of ended

If all it takes is a lone nutcase to justify it, we're not seeing the end of it anytime soon.

VomKriege · « **Reply #2320 on:** July 15, 2016, 04:50:59 AM »

Well it's morning down here and the conga line of stupidity has begun, after a rather restrained night when even some of the horrible local Nice politicians were very subdued by the reality of it all.

How to prevent an act like that ?
Well, army patrolling the country so just tweak their rules of engagement and "put at the end of the Promenade des Anglais a soldier with a rocket launcher and he will stop the truck", according to Henri Guaino. This man is elected at the National Assembly and most notably was one of the major unofficial advisors to President Sarkozy. This is the level here people.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #2321 on:** July 15, 2016, 07:41:05 AM »

A suspect has been identified: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/nice-france-truck-attack-driver-mohamed-lahouaiej-bouhlel/?linkId=26589604

Quote

For many, there was nowhere safe to go. The vehicle zig-zagged for just over one mile until police shot and killed the driver.

Authorities found a handgun, assault rifle and fake hand grenades in the truck. An investigation is ongoing to determine whether this was a lone wolf attack.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #2322 on:** July 15, 2016, 09:14:08 AM »

There is no stopping things like this by force, I hope people realize this.

The only thing is including people in society so that they don't feel like tearing it down.

VomKriege · « **Reply #2323 on:** July 15, 2016, 09:31:50 AM »

As expected everyone jumped early at the whole terrorism angle, but so far nothing was made public about his motivations. He was known to the police, only for petty violence, but not to intelligence. Mentally ill people trying to go on a vehicular killing spree is not new, even if it never reached such heights. Is it terrorism without at least being emboldened by some political rhetoric or making a statement, let alone actual contacts with an organization providing logistics or some ideological cover ?

El Babua · « **Reply #2324 on:** July 15, 2016, 04:05:38 PM »

Shit going down in Turkey right now.

toku · « **Reply #2325 on:** July 15, 2016, 04:17:07 PM »

Yep looks like a military coup is happening in Turkey rn:
https://twitter.com/conflicts/status/754041460454981632

Rufus · « **Reply #2326 on:** July 15, 2016, 04:18:14 PM »

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36809083

No details yet.

Let's Cyber · « **Reply #2327 on:** July 15, 2016, 04:22:01 PM »

Quote from: toku on July 15, 2016, 04:17:07 PM

Yep looks like a military coup is happening in Turkey rn:
https://twitter.com/conflicts/status/754041460454981632

The video of that jet flying over the residential neighborhoods, holy shit

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #2328 on:** July 15, 2016, 04:23:01 PM »

Turkey's PM has denounced an "illegal action" by a military "group"

toku · « **Reply #2329 on:** July 15, 2016, 04:25:05 PM »

Facebook, YT and Twitter blocked:
https://twitter.com/TurkeyBlocks/status/754043966547431424

I'm a Puppy! · « **Reply #2330 on:** July 15, 2016, 04:28:47 PM »

oh shit.

Let's Cyber · « **Reply #2331 on:** July 15, 2016, 04:31:53 PM »

Yeah this shit is for real. Blood will be spilled.

VomKriege · « **Reply #2332 on:** July 15, 2016, 04:42:40 PM »

To be fair I expected that a few years ago. Does the army have the same clout it had before ? Especially with Erdogan having kept such a long grip on the levers ? Just hoping for a quick and bloodless resolution.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #2333 on:** July 15, 2016, 04:53:50 PM »

What's the politics here? Is the military more or less sectarian than the gov?

Rufus · « **Reply #2334 on:** July 15, 2016, 04:54:19 PM »

20-fucking-16

I'm a Puppy! · « **Reply #2335 on:** July 15, 2016, 05:06:23 PM »

Quote from: TheInfelicitousDandy on July 15, 2016, 04:53:50 PM

What's the politics here? Is the military more or less sectarian than the gov?

Yeah can someone please explain?

VomKriege · « **Reply #2336 on:** July 15, 2016, 05:07:03 PM »

Quote from: TheInfelicitousDandy on July 15, 2016, 04:53:50 PM

What's the politics here? Is the military more or less sectarian than the gov?

Army always had a reputation as a self appointed guardian of the Ataturk's principles, more secular (very much so, in fact, Turkish legislation was on par with French in some respects for the veil in public places and official id) but certainly happy to break a few democratic eggs in the process. Erdogan doesn't have a clean record for that (press, protests, social media) and is obviously angling for a more religious state with troubling references to the Ottoman empire but he has been consistently elected.

curly · « **Reply #2337 on:** July 15, 2016, 05:07:48 PM »

Quote from: TheInfelicitousDandy on July 15, 2016, 04:53:50 PM

What's the politics here? Is the military more or less sectarian than the gov?

The government is blaming the Gulen movement, which is a religious group that's been cracked down on by Erdogan. I don't know if those claims are credible or just the government blaming a feared enemy.

jakefromstatefarm · « **Reply #2338 on:** July 15, 2016, 05:10:33 PM »

Quote from: TheInfelicitousDandy on July 15, 2016, 04:53:50 PM

What's the politics here? Is the military more or less sectarian than the gov?

more secular than the de facto Islamist akp, tentatively pro-assad and way more hostile to the kurdish minority

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #2339 on:** July 15, 2016, 05:12:51 PM »

Quote from: TheInfelicitousDandy on July 15, 2016, 04:53:50 PM

What's the politics here? Is the military more or less sectarian than the gov?

Pro-honey, anti frying.

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Author Topic: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster (Read 1307525 times)