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Re: International Politics Thread - Tankers for Bankers
« Reply #6480 on: June 14, 2019, 02:10:50 PM »
to be fair to trump, he put a bunch of potholes in a runway, damaged no aircraft or hangers, and most of the missiles missed anyway
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Re: International Politics Thread - Tankers for Bankers
« Reply #6481 on: June 14, 2019, 02:24:09 PM »
The current US involvement is Syria is much larger than the administration or the press will talk about.

Has the Trump admin really escalated it or is it just keeping engagement levels at where they were under Obama ?

A troop died in Niger doing god knows what too.

Probably some spillover of Enduring Horn : Africa of Freedom. But I guess you're not fully acclimated yet to a perpetual presence in a vaguely defined quarter of Africa and the occasional deaths in operations that come with it (hostage rescues, lately, for the RF).
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Re: International Politics Thread - Tankers for Bankers
« Reply #6482 on: June 14, 2019, 02:31:24 PM »
Has the Trump admin really escalated it or is it just keeping engagement levels at where they were under Obama ?
Dramatically. I have trouble finding this gif but there was a timelapse of drone strikes in Syria from 2014 to 2018 or whenever they stopped reporting to the public and it's kind of shocking.
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Re: International Politics Thread - Tankers for Bankers
« Reply #6483 on: June 14, 2019, 03:02:31 PM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48631741

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The government is in "pretty good shape" to cope with a no-deal Brexit, the head of civil service has said.

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Re: International Politics Thread - Tankers for Bankers
« Reply #6484 on: June 14, 2019, 03:18:33 PM »
Has the Trump admin really escalated it or is it just keeping engagement levels at where they were under Obama ?
Dramatically. I have trouble finding this gif but there was a timelapse of drone strikes in Syria from 2014 to 2018 or whenever they stopped reporting to the public and it's kind of shocking.

Drone strikes doesn't tell the whole story, if in the same time they reduced other material or human footprints or downsized shipments of arms or other devices to amenable groups. The admin started pulling troops at one point.

I'm not saying you're wrong, mind.
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Re: International Politics Thread - Tankers for Bankers
« Reply #6485 on: June 14, 2019, 03:34:28 PM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48631741

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The government is in "pretty good shape" to cope with a no-deal Brexit, the head of civil service has said.

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Re: International Politics Thread - Tankers for Bankers
« Reply #6486 on: June 14, 2019, 04:10:32 PM »
For some extra lolz, this is the same guy who kept telling May that a no-deal would be a thermonuclear shit show.

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Re: International Politics Thread - Tankers for Bankers
« Reply #6488 on: June 15, 2019, 03:23:27 PM »
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« Reply #6491 on: June 16, 2019, 06:19:43 AM »
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Re: International Politics Thread - Tankers for Bankers
« Reply #6492 on: June 16, 2019, 08:14:46 AM »
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/16/dirty-secrets-of-boris-johnsons-seduction-of-conservative-mps

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Colleagues enjoy conjecturing what could possibly now derail a man who has miraculously survived so much previous scandal. “Another love child falling out of the cupboard wouldn’t do it,” suggests one Tory MP of many years standing. “With Boris, all that is already in the price.”

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I’ve heard all sorts of explanations from Tories about why they are swallowing their misgivings and voting for the former foreign secretary, including one MP who revealed that his wife and children are threatening to punish him by changing the locks to the family home.

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Dominic Raab has tried too hard to be the macho man for the Brexit ultras. He unnerved even some of them by saying that he might attempt to shutter parliament in order to ram through a no-deal Brexit. This is supposed to be a contest for the prime ministership of a mature democracy, not the chairmanship of the junta in a banana republic. Michael Gove is still struggling to recover his balance and answer the charges of hypocrisy after being compelled to admit that he has snorted mind-bending narcotics other than Brexit.
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And if it all goes horribly wrong? At least, I often hear Tories muse, a Johnson premiership “will cheer everyone up”. When your party looks like it is going to hell in a handcart, they reckon you might as well hurtle towards the inferno with a smile on your face.

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« Reply #6494 on: June 16, 2019, 01:58:08 PM »
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« Reply #6496 on: June 16, 2019, 03:09:31 PM »
every older person should die  8)
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« Reply #6498 on: June 17, 2019, 02:36:53 PM »
I guess that's one problem for the Egyptian rulers that took care of itself. :doge
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Re: International Politics Thread - Tankers for Bankers
« Reply #6499 on: June 17, 2019, 02:42:21 PM »
I'm sure it had nothing to do with 8(?) years of living under one of the world's worst prison systems and wondering if you're going to be executed every day
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« Reply #6500 on: June 17, 2019, 02:50:17 PM »
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1140657860235464704
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"Dowd, remember who I'm talking to," Trump says in the book, reportedly referring to el-Sisi. "The guy's a f---ing killer. This guy's a f---ng killer! I'm getting it done."

Trump added el-Sisi will "make you sweat on the phone," before launching into an impression of el-Sissi: "Donald, I'm worried about this investigation. Are you going to be around? Suppose I need a favor, Donald?"

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« Reply #6501 on: June 17, 2019, 04:00:05 PM »
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Re: International Politics Thread - Tankers for Bankers
« Reply #6502 on: June 17, 2019, 04:49:25 PM »
Is Jerusalem Post a real source am I being fake newsd
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Diplomatic sources at the UN headquarters in New York revealed to Maariv that they are assessing the United States' plans to carry out a tactical assault on Iran in response to the tanker attack in the Persian Gulf on Thursday.
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The sources added that President Trump himself was not enthusiastic about a military move against Iran, but lost his patience on the matter and would grant Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who is pushing for action, what he wants.
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Re: International Politics Thread - Tankers for Bankers
« Reply #6503 on: June 17, 2019, 05:02:58 PM »
Is Jerusalem Post a real source am I being fake newsd
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Diplomatic sources at the UN headquarters in New York revealed to Maariv that they are assessing the United States' plans to carry out a tactical assault on Iran in response to the tanker attack in the Persian Gulf on Thursday.
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The sources added that President Trump himself was not enthusiastic about a military move against Iran, but lost his patience on the matter and would grant Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who is pushing for action, what he wants.

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They are really in love with the idea of Israel.  :doge

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Re: International Politics Thread - Tankers for Bankers
« Reply #6504 on: June 17, 2019, 05:04:10 PM »
I too am in love at the idea of my own existence.
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« Reply #6505 on: June 17, 2019, 05:16:31 PM »
 :lol
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Re: International Politics Thread - Tankers for Bankers
« Reply #6506 on: June 17, 2019, 05:19:50 PM »
It's no al-Ittihad, but what is.

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« Reply #6507 on: June 17, 2019, 05:23:54 PM »
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I see they are fans of Chapelle. "Just sprinkle some crack on him."
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« Reply #6508 on: June 17, 2019, 05:31:54 PM »
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« Reply #6509 on: June 17, 2019, 05:39:25 PM »
Trump starting WW3 because he lost his patience with John Bolton and Mike Pompeo would be the most on brand thing that has ever happened on this planet.
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« Reply #6510 on: June 17, 2019, 05:43:22 PM »
It's no al-Ittihad, but what is.

I didn‘t know you were a Saudi football aficionado. :obama
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« Reply #6511 on: June 17, 2019, 08:22:56 PM »
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/raptors-rally-shooting-1.5178886

almost went to this with a friend - he came back to work rather freaked out

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Re: International Politics Thread - Tankers for Bankers
« Reply #6512 on: June 18, 2019, 01:31:10 PM »
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Dominic Raab has been knocked out of the Tory leadership race in the latest ballot of MPs, leaving five candidates in the battle to be the next PM.

Boris Johnson once again came top of the second ballot, with 126 votes - 12 more than in the first round.

Jeremy Hunt, Michael Gove, Sajid Javid and Rory Stewart also got enough votes to make it into the next round.

Mr Raab did not get through, after getting 30 votes, three less than the minimum needed.


I love how something as monumental as leaving the EU was a done deal after one dumb referendum no one really gave a shit about, but finding May's replacement is going to take nearly two months and like, 4 votes :lol

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« Reply #6513 on: June 18, 2019, 03:16:20 PM »
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1141029016956231680

Boris is doing better than expected :mynicca


All these candidates are fucking terrible



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Gove: "Jeremy Corbyn stands up for the Iranian regime not the average worker"

Jesus christ dude.  :lol
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« Reply #6515 on: June 19, 2019, 03:39:21 AM »
Chinese slacktivists really exposing themselves with the lack of protests, how bad can it be really if there's none ? (I didn't want to make a huge care post in the thread dedicated to shit impulses, but I thought the reasoning was a bit tautological to be honest.)



Soviet sluggish schizophrenia has been replaced with pre-crime, apparently.
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« Reply #6516 on: June 19, 2019, 12:01:02 PM »
Not hydrated enough, apparently. :idont

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« Reply #6517 on: June 19, 2019, 12:01:32 PM »
So...why was she shaking? Parkinsons? Low blood sugar? Putin's dog was out of frame? Nervous? Cold?

Reports came out that Greece was getting a 0.01% debt haircut.

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« Reply #6518 on: June 19, 2019, 12:03:03 PM »
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« Reply #6519 on: June 19, 2019, 12:05:08 PM »
Have you seen the numbers of the Deutsche Bank lately to only name one? Not great, we need every cent especially in these trying times of low rates.

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« Reply #6520 on: June 19, 2019, 12:09:10 PM »
Plus, the Nazis in the BRD look a lot better with Golden Dawn on the scene. :win

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« Reply #6521 on: June 19, 2019, 12:18:36 PM »
A local politician was shot and killed recently. Main suspect is a neo-nazi. :shaq2

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« Reply #6522 on: June 19, 2019, 12:23:44 PM »
Clearly they weren't Turkish because the police figured that out in less than 10 years and multiple murders!

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« Reply #6523 on: June 19, 2019, 12:26:02 PM »
A local politician was shot and killed recently. Main suspect is a neo-nazi. :shaq2

Have you heard the comments from Peter Tauber though?
Limit freedom of speech and freedom of assembly for people and parties who are against the constitution.

Like, breh, they have been able to do that since 1949. You only need the supreme court to state that a party is unconstitutional. How did that go during the NPD trial? :doge

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« Reply #6524 on: June 19, 2019, 12:29:55 PM »
Clearly they weren't Turkish because the police figured that out in less than 10 years and multiple murders!

Don‘t fotget that even though that it was one of, if not the biggest criminal trial in the last 25 years, that the evidence against Zschäpe was extremely thin and the revision, if the case wasn‘t so politically charged, would have had extremely good chances to overturn the verdict.

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« Reply #6525 on: June 19, 2019, 12:44:01 PM »
A local politician was shot and killed recently. Main suspect is a neo-nazi. :shaq2

Have you heard the comments from Peter Tauber though?
Limit freedom of speech and freedom of assembly for people and parties who are against the constitution.
It's paywalled, but his opener "it is now obvious that right-wing extremists not only rampage in social networks" makes me not want to read the rest anyway, so...  :doge

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« Reply #6526 on: June 19, 2019, 01:06:41 PM »
A local politician was shot and killed recently. Main suspect is a neo-nazi. :shaq2

Have you heard the comments from Peter Tauber though?
Limit freedom of speech and freedom of assembly for people and parties who are against the constitution.

Like, breh, they have been able to do that since 1949. You only need the supreme court to state that a party is unconstitutional. How did that go during the NPD trial? :doge


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« Reply #6527 on: June 19, 2019, 01:16:56 PM »
Learn from the master Maduro.

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« Reply #6528 on: June 19, 2019, 01:53:08 PM »
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« Reply #6530 on: June 19, 2019, 04:26:20 PM »
Not hydrated enough, apparently. :idont

That's the go-to excuse for politicians who clearly should just retire :lol (see: Clinton's similar incident).

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« Reply #6532 on: June 19, 2019, 08:16:24 PM »
Canada resettled more refugees than any other country in 2018

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48696974

The country accepted just over 28,000 refugees last year, with the United States coming in second with 22,900.

Some 92,400 refugees were resettled globally in 2018, fewer than 7% of those awaiting resettlement worldwide.

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« Reply #6533 on: June 20, 2019, 04:02:26 AM »
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/06/iran-revolutionary-guard-shoots-spy-drone-report-190620035802427.html

What do you guys make of this? specifically about the claim that it was/wasnt over Iran airspace by the opposing sides.

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« Reply #6534 on: June 20, 2019, 04:12:00 AM »
I find it real convenient that Iran would poke the bear right after the US went back to squeezing them. Iran stands to lose a lot more, but then I don't know how fucked/desperate they are right now, economically.

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« Reply #6535 on: June 20, 2019, 04:17:49 AM »
I find it real convenient that Iran would poke the bear right after the US went back to squeezing them. Iran stands to lose a lot more, but then I don't know how fucked/desperate they are right now, economically.
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« Reply #6536 on: June 20, 2019, 04:21:50 AM »
I read a whole lot of other sources and the US claims the drone was 17 miles from the Iranian border, the drone in question has a speed of about 320mph. I can see a scenario where the drone crossed over into Iranian space, Iran fired a missile, the drone punched it and got ended outside of Iranian airspace, making both claims technically true (Iran shot while they were in their airspace and the US got hit outside of it).

This is just such a weird piece of escalation to me, why fuck around and risk shit happening that would lead to US soldiers again in the ME against a country backed by Russia. What's the gain here? Was this a failed intimidation tactic or the start of a series of events to lure Iran into a war?

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« Reply #6537 on: June 20, 2019, 04:28:35 AM »
A large segment of the US political class has wanted war with Iran for decades and has been pretty up front about it.

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« Reply #6538 on: June 20, 2019, 04:29:00 AM »
specifically about the claim that it was/wasnt over Iran airspace by the opposing sides.
That's pretty much what everyone says about everything that's ever been shot down. Probably dates back to the French-Prussian War at latest when the French sent up all kinds of useless balloons that tended to follow the wind instead of going where they wanted them to. IIRC, at one point during the Siege of Paris the French balloons were of more use to the Prussians because they'd drift over their lines and then the Prussians would interrogate the pilots, about the condition of the city, who obviously wouldn't get back to Paris until later. The Union and Confederate armies quickly stopped messing around with balloons in the American Civil War for much of the same reasons. Austria and France kept dabbling with them because Franz Joseph and Napoleon III were fanboys of them.

The Austrians were arguably the very first to try bombing from balloons, but they ran into a similar problem, at one point they loaded up like a hundred balloons with bombs to drop, and only one managed to do it, the wind blew all the rest back over the Austrians.

I read a whole lot of other sources and the US claims the drone was 17 miles from the Iranian border, the drone in question has a speed of about 320mph. I can see a scenario where the drone crossed over into Iranian space, Iran fired a missile, the drone punched it and got ended outside of Iranian airspace, making both claims technically true (Iran shot while they were in their airspace and the US got hit outside of it).

This is just such a weird piece of escalation to me, why fuck around and risk shit happening that would lead to US soldiers again in the ME against a country backed by Russia. What's the gain here? Was this a failed intimidation tactic or the start of a series of events to lure Iran into a war?
It's not real escalation. Border blasting of shit flying around has been a thing during all modern war. Everyone agrees to best maximize the propaganda value of it and then quietly settle things after. Since it's a drone a lot of the normal stuff is cut down, no bodies to recover, many drones are designed to crash on purpose at some point anyway, somebody gets to test their ability to shoot them down, etc.

The U.S. has much better ways of declaring a provocation requiring combat.

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« Reply #6539 on: June 20, 2019, 04:31:34 AM »
Was this a failed intimidation tactic or the start of a series of events to lure Iran into a war?
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