International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster

[Raist]

i apologize for not being 100% serious at all time like yourself on the board with such important and serious topics as "Favorite Frank" and "What's the best way to illegally import hundreds of birds from a remote island?"

Yeah, cause I only post super-seeriouz stuff at all times

90% of the forum is shooting the shit, tongue in cheek, random lolz and whatnot.

Is it really impossible to have just a couple threads remain relatively free of random shite, ranging from "lolz baiiiited" to flat out disinformation?
If that doesn't bother you, then I'm not sure why you're complaining about me "being serious" either in any case dude.

[Nintex]

why is it always a secret right wing plot? maybe it's just that macron is kind of a moron?

I feel like at the bilderberg groups or the epstein islands whatever, the neo liberals just sit together in a room and brainstorm ideas of how to make people pissed at their governments with new insane policies that their friends in the press have to defend.
It's the only way I can explain most EU policy making from the last decade.

Also it's not like these policies caused the riots. They already had protests and riots and then they decided to reform the pensions as well because everyone was already pissed off anyway.

[shosta]

There were remainers in the Tory party just as there were radical leavers.

There were 75 conservatives who voted against May's deal the second (or maybe third) time. If you look at those people I think you'll find that very few of them were Remainers. Only 3 Conservatives voted against Johnson's deal. The issue with May was that it wasn't a strong enough Brexit and she wasn't allowed to leave NI in the customs union (even though this was offered by the EU).

[nachobro]

Yeah, cause I only post super-seeriouz stuff at all times

90% of the forum is shooting the shit, tongue in cheek, random lolz and whatnot.

Is it really impossible to have just a couple threads remain relatively free of random shite, ranging from "lolz baiiiited" to flat out disinformation?
If that doesn't bother you, then I'm not sure why you're complaining about me "being serious" either in any case dude.

cause you'll respond 100% of the time

[Nintex]

There were remainers in the Tory party just as there were radical leavers.

There were 75 conservatives who voted against May's deal the second (or maybe third) time. If you look at those people I think you'll find that very few of them were Remainers. Only 3 Conservatives voted against Johnson's deal. The issue with May was that it wasn't a strong enough Brexit and she wasn't allowed to leave NI in the customs union (even though this was offered by the EU).

It wasn't strong enough for some and not soft enough for others so it had no chance. Not to mention the guy who negotiated most of it dropped his support 
Boris changed it every so slightly but enough to get it over the finish line but he still needed to replace a bunch of MP's with a new election and defeat the more liberal wing of his party to do it.

Anyway that's thankfully all behind us now and the EU tax payer won't have to pay Farage's MEP salary for another 20 years. 

[Nintex]

I was wondering why "#Greece" was trending but apparently some MP tore up the Turkish flag and now the Ottomans want to drown all the Greeks.
https://twitter.com/milliyet/status/1222875093287809024

[OnlyRegret]

 

https://twitter.com/liz_franczak/status/1222643635994292224

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https://twitter.com/ShitbagMcJones/status/1222652954731139073

 

[BisMarckie]

I was wondering why "#Greece" was trending but apparently some MP tore up the Turkish flag and now the Ottomans want to drown all the Greeks.
https://twitter.com/milliyet/status/1222875093287809024

#Yunanistan ? I like Final Fantasy X-2 as much as the next guy, but naming a state after its protagonist is a little bit much.

[HardcoreRetro]

What if they change the Y to a P?

[shosta]

There's no "media blackout" of the French strikes, American news just completely ignores international news. I hear about it on The World.

[BisMarckie]

I can't support a state that stans Yuna over Lulu (the best girl).

Lulu was my first and last hot goth gf.

[team filler]

  yuna+lulu=lula 

[Nintex]

Has Macron responded at all?

He usually makes a snide remark like they need to find jobs or something and flies to some other continent for a meeting.

I feel like the UN should do a 'swap world leader' day or something like those 'house wife swap' TV shows.
Make Macron the President of the US for a day, Merkel the President of China, Xi the President of Germany, Putin the leader of Belgium, Trump the President of France etc. .
Maybe people would better appreciate the leader that they have or realize they're all shit.

[Madrun Badrun]

There's no "media blackout" of the French strikes, American news just completely ignores international news. I hear about it on The World.

I mean its more this is just the french being the french.  Like when are they not protesting shit?

[kingv]

I remember reading some things about Macron early on pointing out that he was roughly as popular in France  as Trump was in the US, I.e. not very.

He basically just failed up by running against a crazy person, and somehow thought that gave home a strong mandate.

[brawndolicious]

I remember reading some things about Macron early on pointing out that he was roughly as popular in France  as Trump was in the US, I.e. not very.

He basically just failed up by running against a crazy person, and somehow thought that gave home a strong mandate.

You're basically saying that Hillary Clinton should have had a dick.

Happy Brexit.

[Occam]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jan/30/brexit-730000-britons-acquired-non-uk-eu-irish-passports-since-2016
Most are applying for Irish citizenship, followed by Germany, followed by Sweden and then France. Interestingly, only a handful are applying for Spanish passports despite 600,000 British people living there.

[NekoFever]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jan/30/brexit-730000-britons-acquired-non-uk-eu-irish-passports-since-2016
Most are applying for Irish citizenship, followed by Germany, followed by Sweden and then France. Interestingly, only a handful are applying for Spanish passports despite 600,000 British people living there.

Spain requires naturalised citizens to be able to speak Spanish and to have shown integration into Spanish culture, which precludes the Brits out there.

[VomKriege]

Has Macron responded at all?

This is like a Rammstein video

https://twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status/1222213652822052866

The government just need to explain the reform more betterer.

[kingv]

I remember reading some things about Macron early on pointing out that he was roughly as popular in France  as Trump was in the US, I.e. not very.

He basically just failed up by running against a crazy person, and somehow thought that gave home a strong mandate.

You're basically saying that Hillary Clinton should have had a dick.

Happy Brexit.

She didn’t fail us, we failed her

[Nintex]

Brexit Day!

[Occam]

Amusing, but lacks a punchline. They took her for a ride (or rather, flight) and then did nothing with it.
Ironically throwing parties for nazis, that'll show them!

[Raist]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jan/30/brexit-730000-britons-acquired-non-uk-eu-irish-passports-since-2016
Most are applying for Irish citizenship, followed by Germany, followed by Sweden and then France. Interestingly, only a handful are applying for Spanish passports despite 600,000 British people living there.

Spain requires naturalised citizens to be able to speak Spanish and to have shown integration into Spanish culture, which precludes the Brits out there.

Same in France. Though I assume Brits speaking some sort of French might be a more common occurrence than for Spanish.

Funnily enough the level of French fluency required to be demonstrated as part of the naturalization process was recently increased - but it won't take effect till April.

[Occam]

So, Great Britain has left the EU. How long until it becomes Little Britain?

[benjipwns]

Nice to see this thread turn into british parliament itself.

ExoYZA.

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/moneillsf/status/1223381321503977476

[shosta]

?

He's removing you from parliament by naming you

[benjipwns]

Coincidentally, I just was randomly reading about all the British fascist/neo-Nazi parties and I might have found a more fractional and splitter based group than most countries Communists are. Also like every party since the 1930s was started by the same three dudes. And they all had affairs with each others fiances while each dude was in prison and shit like that. And they basically cycled through the same 200-300 followers in each group until the BNP changed in the 1990s. (Also they started dying off.)

One time George Lincoln Rockwell of the American Nazi Party told the one dude he should try backing off the race hatred a little if he wanted to garner more support than the tens of followers and the guy told him to fucccckkkkkk ooooffffoffffff back to the colonies.

[benjipwns]

lol someone made this chart for Wikipedia and it's literally only one branch of the movement, so like a third of the groups:


They briefly unified in their own National Front (ala the one in France) just for it to fall apart in a scandal regarding members using it as a front to have homosexual sex with each other.

[benjipwns]

NIGEL FARAGE ON LOU WHAT THREAD DO I POST THIS IN

 

[Occam]

PM directly to Nintex?

[Nintex]

NIGEL FARAGE ON LOU WHAT THREAD DO I POST THIS IN

 

  thank you emperor Trump

https://twitter.com/LouDobbs/status/1223405314738917376

[Pissy F Benny]

Feels pretty good to be free of the tyranny of the unelected eu this morning brehs

[Raist]

Does it?

The tyranny just got worse, you're still under EU rules but have no representation anymore

[Nintex]

Feels pretty good to be free of the tyranny of the unelected eu this morning brehs

It seemed impossible but you did it and reclaimed your freedom from the cult.
After the overthrow of Berlusconi, neutering Greece and the sponsored coup in Ukraine it was pretty obvious the whole thing was steaming towards disaster.
Hopefully more countries will follow and a new alliance can be forged that looks out better for the interests of all of Europe and prevents yet another 'lost decade' of failed 5 year plans.

[VomKriege]

The French government and its majority at the assembly opposed and voted down a proposed law to extend leave for parents who lost their child from 5 to 12 days. After getting near immediate scorn from basically the whole political spectrum, Macron ordered them to backtrack this.

[Raist]

What kind of special moron do you have to be to vote against something like this

[VomKriege]

What kind of special moron do you have to be to vote against something like this

A Macronist apparently. 

[Tripon]

France's government is run by people who think running an increase in the gas tax wouldn't cause massive riots that will last for years.

It did.

[shosta]

Between this and "Anyone but Trump? Not so fast." watching the NYT slowly ease itself into ethnonationalism is a hell of an experience

[Occam]

Morons. But most of the readers who commented on the article seem to have a pretty astute view of what's going to happen to "Great" Britain next.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/01/world/europe/brexit-britain.html?action=click&module=News&pgtype=Homepage#commentsContainer

The only winners of Brexit are a few wealthy Britons and the European Union (and possibly Putin).

[Nintex]

I think both the UK and EU are going to 'win'.

The EU will realize it can not just run on autopilot in Brussels with the heads of the biggest German car makers but needs to engage the entire population of Europe for their plans.
It might even make them realize that some of their 5/10/20 year agendas do not benefit Europe at all and reform.

The UK gets to spend the money they've always wanted to spend without EU regulations holding them back.
They were never fully 100% with the EU ever since Gordon Brown kept the Pound in favor of the Euro.
Brexit is simply the logical conclusion of an ongoing process of the UK distancing itself from the German/France axis.

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1223778091753000960

 

[Nintex]

February 2020 - Rick Scott explains to Guaido that his sugar daddy John Bolton is no longer a friend of Trump and thus he is on his own, Colorized.

[Raist]

Those trade talks are already shaping up to go reaaaaally smoothly.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51345776

Boris Johnson is to say he won't accept alignment with EU rules when Britain negotiates a trade deal with Brussels.

[Occam]

[Nintex]

It's just some bluster for the home front.
What Boris says and does is often the opposite. 

[Ghoul]

Being in London I’ve heard soms dumb as fuck things.
On that stuck out was “Well the EU is basically if the nazis has won WW2” also a pub had an British flag with fuck the EU and vote Brexit which my buddies and I scratched out using a sharpie then we got told to leave because we apparently destroyed a flag..... seriously considering moving back to the US as fuck the way this country is at the moment. It’s probably the most short sighted decision ever, bloody inbreeding in towns that will most likely lose the most jobs because the factories they work in will have to move into Europe so they can sell their goods without ridiculous tariffs. HP had to make a U.K. support centre for faults just so they can maintain their SLA targets, it’s just so stupid.

[Raist]

People have been lapping up 4 decades of random shite about the EU.

3.5 years after the bollocks pro-Brexit campaigns, and they're still repeating the "finally we can now make our own laws" "can't wait for the government to use those £350M per week on schools and the NHS" lines, etc etc

They'll probably likewise gobble up whatever lies the Tories have lined up next to excuse their policies.

[kingv]

It really depends on how resolute the EU is on sticking it to Britain. It will be bad for the EU, but Britain has way more to lose.

If the EU plays hardball enough the UK will be back hat in hand in 10 years begging the EU to let them trade according to EU rules.

[Nintex]

It really depends on how resolute the EU is on sticking it to Britain. It will be bad for the EU, but Britain has way more to lose.

If the EU plays hardball enough the UK will be back hat in hand in 10 years begging the EU to let them trade according to EU rules.

All member states have to agree.
None of them want to ever be in the same position.

It'll mostly be business as usual with some perks for German car makers and others who pay their lobbyists well.

[Ghoul]

I mean we left but still using their laws for at least the next year...

[Occam]

It really depends on how resolute the EU is on sticking it to Britain. It will be bad for the EU, but Britain has way more to lose.

If the EU plays hardball enough the UK will be back hat in hand in 10 years begging the EU to let them trade according to EU rules.

I certainly hope so. But whatever happens, the UK won't get access to the single market without following the rules and paying for it (like Norway, without having any say). A far as financial services are concerned, the EU absolutely won't tolerate London becoming "another Singapore", as I've heard some people claim. That notion if simply idiotic.

[shosta]

Draft of Lebanese financial rescue plan promises "painful" steps

Sounds like the citizens will lose pretty big (more cuts, more taxes). The government should pick Lebanese people over creditors.

[OnlyRegret]

Nintex pumping up those agri exports numbers once again

https://twitter.com/thauma_idesthai/status/1223709264704831491

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[shosta]

When Fernandez was elected in Argentina he made it sound like he would not be as reckless as Kirchner and that he would work with international creditors to resolve the debt crisis. But two months in and basically nothing has happened.

Last week, the ministry of finance published a new timeline for negotiations over the $100bn of international debt. Under this plan, the government will not provide a restructuring offer until the second week of March. This leaves creditors with just two weeks to respond if they are to meet the end of March deadline. Major creditors were “fuming” and may not “dignify the process with an answer”, the person added.

Most likely they will come to an agreement but they want Argentina to commit to spending cuts and a sustainable repayment plan. It just goes to show how inescapable a debt trap can be.

anyway death to the bankers

[VomKriege]

The French government and its majority at the assembly opposed and voted down a proposed law to extend leave for parents who lost their child from 5 to 12 days. After getting near immediate scorn from basically the whole political spectrum, Macron ordered them to backtrack this.

Just a small detail I forgot to mention : disbelief at the government and support for extending the leave came from as far as the head and former head of the most-known CEO and business owners union.

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/NegarMortazavi/status/1224050189612343296