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« Reply #10800 on: February 24, 2022, 02:02:06 PM »
Biden announced more sanctions, says Putin aims to restore the entire Soviet Union and will go beyond Ukraine

Ukraine won't go down without a fight

https://twitter.com/StratcomCentre/status/1496922915954216962

https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1496944661256097793

https://twitter.com/olex_scherba/status/1496943641796960263
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« Reply #10801 on: February 24, 2022, 02:52:55 PM »
UEFA with the important sanctions...removes Champions League final from St Petersburg.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/60504979
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« Reply #10802 on: February 24, 2022, 03:22:47 PM »
Looks like the latest Russian disinformation campaign has kicked off

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« Reply #10803 on: February 24, 2022, 03:47:29 PM »
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Foreign Minister of #France says, "Putin must realize that NATO is also a nuclear alliance."

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https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1496948523442622465

Brave people standing up to the madman
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« Reply #10804 on: February 24, 2022, 04:40:18 PM »
https://twitter.com/AVindman/status/1496954024914046978

Another confirmation that they destroyed the Russian Air Assault units. About 200 Russians were flown in with 30 helicopters and captured the airport so more troops could be flown in for an assault on Kyiv then Ukraine counter attacked under the cover of darkness, destroyed them, shot down 3 helicopters and prevented reinforcements from landing.

Those air ports will be vital to keep receiving arms from allies and preventing the Russians from taking Kyiv without a grinding ground assault.

As expected Russia is making gains quickly in the South pushing up from Crimea to link up all the way with their occupied zone in Moldova along the coast but not so much in the East and West.
They've been unable to encircle Kharkiv, seize Kyiv or capture the Ukrainian leadership. Tonight Ukraine expects more attempts to land Air Assault forces in key strategic locations as well as air attacks as the Russians have pretty much achieved dominance in the air.

Macron called Putin a short while ago and told him to stop the war immediately. Putin responded by again explaining his demented justifications.

Since disarming Ukraine is one of Putin's goals the Ukrainians have started to arm everyone who can hold a gun. Today they've handed out 10k assault rifles to the citizens of Kyiv.
They probably expect they will be able to negotiate some sort of ceasefire if the Russians have no choice but to enter the fortified cities and engage in urban warfare to achieve their goals.
Despite his rantings Putin seems to have forgotten how 'alike' Ukraine and Russia are. The images of Ukrainians hiding in the soviet-era metro stations will have a big impact on Russian support for the war which is already shaky.
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« Reply #10805 on: February 24, 2022, 04:53:45 PM »
I'm not the only one who has noticed that the Russians are so far trying to prevent having to fight in cities and rather defeat the UA army in the outskirts.
https://twitter.com/IntelCrab/status/1496964164484481025

In places like Sumy it didn't end well for the orcs who entered the town.
The war is by no means over but it didn't end tonight as it could have if the Russians had held the airport near Kyiv.
Their ground forces are still moving towards the city but that's a far slower process than flying in the special forces.

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Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #10809 on: February 24, 2022, 08:30:35 PM »
Shit guys.


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« Reply #10812 on: February 24, 2022, 09:55:49 PM »



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« Reply #10814 on: February 25, 2022, 12:09:59 AM »
Has anyone found a hot Twitter take handwringing about the climate cost of all this military activity?

Surely there's at least one out there.
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« Reply #10815 on: February 25, 2022, 12:11:49 AM »
Has anyone found a hot Twitter take handwringing about the climate cost of all this military activity?

Surely there's at least one out there.
Is this close enough:
https://twitter.com/MEMRIReports/status/1496797619825352706

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« Reply #10816 on: February 25, 2022, 12:15:33 AM »
Has anyone found a hot Twitter take handwringing about the climate cost of all this military activity?

Surely there's at least one out there.
Is this close enough:
https://twitter.com/MEMRIReports/status/1496797619825352706

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Too bad no one cares about John Kerry at all...
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« Reply #10817 on: February 25, 2022, 12:36:33 AM »
The head of Russia's space program seems to be suggesting that he might smash the International Space Station into the United States over sanctions:


https://twitter.com/Rogozin/status/1496934100363587587

People are roasting him and the Russian space program in the replies:
https://twitter.com/angryUTdude/status/1496942079934533645
https://twitter.com/StephanieBumpus/status/1497009281425723404

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« Reply #10818 on: February 25, 2022, 03:24:52 AM »
Heavy fighting for Kyiv today.

UA blew up bridges, Russkies entered disguised as UA soldiers but they were found and eliminated. Ukraine also struck a Russian airfield. Ukraine has told the people of Kyiv to make molotovs cocktails and report anything they see.
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« Reply #10819 on: February 25, 2022, 08:34:06 AM »
On a more positive note Sean Penn and Louis CK are in the capital filming the Tropic Thunder sequel

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« Reply #10820 on: February 25, 2022, 10:28:40 AM »
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« Reply #10821 on: February 25, 2022, 12:06:42 PM »
heard from my desk just now

40 year old blonde: "so why did russia invade the ukraine? I just don't understand what's going on?"

patient mfer: "well, putin is old school and he wants the soviet union back."

40 year old blonde: "and he's the president?"

patient mfer: "he's the russian president, yes. and he wants to take back what he perceives that he used to own as part of russia."

40 year old blonde: "so he's a bad guy."

:busta :duh
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« Reply #10822 on: February 25, 2022, 01:22:42 PM »
I blame comic book movies

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« Reply #10824 on: February 25, 2022, 01:59:32 PM »
his goal wasn't Ukraine at all

Putin realized he can use the ruins of Chernobyl to destroy the world, he just needed to recapture it

(the recent HBO miniseries gave him the idea)
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« Reply #10826 on: February 25, 2022, 02:29:25 PM »
Europe finally taking things seriously

https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1497250849554411522
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« Reply #10827 on: February 25, 2022, 02:38:26 PM »
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« Reply #10828 on: February 25, 2022, 03:59:44 PM »
"mixed feelings"

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« Reply #10829 on: February 25, 2022, 04:07:40 PM »
Zuckerburg has called in his favor. An attack on Facebook is an attack on everyone

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1497309173498875907
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« Reply #10830 on: February 25, 2022, 04:39:19 PM »
https://twitter.com/mblaszczak/status/1497258005955547143

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The convoy with the ammunition that we are handing over to Ukraine has already reached our neighbors. We support the Ukrainians, we stand in solidarity and we firmly oppose Russian aggression.

https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1497285592207429633
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« Reply #10831 on: February 25, 2022, 08:04:28 PM »
https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1497344191474528258

Slava Ukraini!

Another 125 - 255 paratroopers lost.
The invading army has seriously bad karma.
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« Reply #10833 on: February 25, 2022, 09:06:53 PM »
https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1497344191474528258

Slava Ukraini!

Another 125 - 255 paratroopers lost.
The invading army has seriously bad karma.
Ukraine claims another one of these big chungus
https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1497389484362461187
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« Reply #10834 on: February 25, 2022, 11:02:08 PM »
There are reports that Russian tanks have been rolling into battle with fake Explosive Reactive Armor (ERA) on them.

The million dollar question is if the crews know this or it was placed on as a placebo.

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« Reply #10835 on: February 26, 2022, 04:38:03 AM »
https://twitter.com/JimLaPorta/status/1497428052988641281

https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1497485623225200640

Kyiv repelled a large attack tonight. 

Russian losses estimated at 3000 dead and 500 pow's.
Ukraine also claims 530 vehicles destroyed.
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« Reply #10836 on: February 26, 2022, 04:51:42 AM »
Russia to be cut from SWIFT
https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1497502946480869378

Dutch send 200 more stingers, Macron also sending military aid says it will be a long war.

Putin's vassal states are dropping their support also
https://twitter.com/michaelh992/status/1497480540072689668
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« Reply #10837 on: February 26, 2022, 05:07:17 AM »
Russian military failures...ya hate ta see it!
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« Reply #10838 on: February 26, 2022, 05:12:25 AM »
Czechs will bring some guns too, directly to the front if necessary
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1497502621619347457

UK will also help with logistics
https://twitter.com/haynesdeborah/status/1497506190842023937

Zelensky's anti-Putin coalition is taking shape.
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« Reply #10839 on: February 26, 2022, 05:19:59 AM »
It's hard to see what Putin's endgame is here.

So, let's say organised Ukrainian resistance crumbles and a puppet government is installed. The population will clearly not give it legitimacy, there will definitely be insurgencies and the international community isn't going to deal with them.

What does he plan on doing once this ends?

Are Russian troops going to occupy the country? That will take a massive deployment and will consistently cost lives, just like the US found in Iraq and Afghanistan.

If they don't occupy, then I can't see this puppet regime lasting.
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« Reply #10840 on: February 26, 2022, 06:26:38 AM »
Poland refusing to play against Russia in the World Cup playoff. They are in discussions with the Swedish and Czech football associations to present a unified front to FIFA.

So happy to see the world standing together to isolate Russia and send a message that this is not acceptable behaviour.
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« Reply #10841 on: February 26, 2022, 06:49:07 AM »
It depends on the goal. His goal to wreck Ukraine and its economy has succeeded. Important infrastructure is destroyed (either by the enemy or in defense) as multiple airfields, factories, power plants, ports are in ruins. But the Russians anticipated a quick victory, basically by using their pro-Russian factions and saboteurs already in Ukraine to sabotage the defense and hitting Ukraine's bases in a 'shock and awe' manner. Then the cannon fodder would come in to bog down the Ukrainian army and keep 'order'. During that distraction special forces would aim to capture and control key targets such as the leadership.

The first action is failing because of social media. The Ukraine MOD has put out this simple instruction: "If we can see it, we can destroy it. If we can't see it, tell us where it is". Often troops show up disguised as Ukrainian units that are quickly destroyed or arrested. They have basically enlisted their entire population to keep track of the Russians. Plus they've received significant intel from the UK and US about Russian plans and movements.

The second action was limited because Russia does not have a large stockpile of precision weapons that the US has and more importantly Ukraine hadn't yet mobilized. Russia destroyed barracks, military installations and air bases which were mostly still not fully staffed. The attacks only boosted morale of the soldiers still home or already entrenched in the East.

The cannon fodder rolled in with their columns, poorly supplied and mostly confused. They were called up for 'exercises' and suddenly find themselves in war.  Being berated by the elderly and shot at by angry Ukrainian forces. What they find is not what they were told: to be received as 'liberators' ending a genocide. This has made the job of the special forces speeding towards more important targets much harder as the Ukrainian forces have not been demoralized, spread out or worn down from the fighting. Far from it. They've also not launched reprisals on the Russians living in Ukraine, in fact they hand out weapons to anyone willing to fight for their homes.

So the Russian cannon fodder is now mostly stuck outside the cities in the vast empty steppes without fuel like the Wehrmacht was or fled into the woods surrounding Kyiv and other places. Elite units were either taken out or never managed to land.
A limited failure on the part of Russia could however also backfire. As it supports Putin's claim that Ukraine was heavily armed and thus a threat to Russia.

They're now sending in the Chechens which are brutal fighting machines. Chances are they can force a breakthrough in Kyiv. The Russians have already started to claim 'false' victories and captures as they need something to boost morale and heroic stories of how they fought the Nazi's. So far only stories of the Ukrainian Reaper, who shot 20 Russians, the Ghost of Kyiv who shot down 5 planes with an obsolete Mig-29 and the soldier that defied a Russian warship by telling the captain to go fuck himself are making the rounds. Not to mention Zelensky who has become a symbol of the fight for democracy agains dementia and tyranny. The old vs. the new.

On the long term though Ukraine is fighting on 4 different fronts, which is not sustainable. And so far the Russians have decided not to attack cities in full force like they did in Syria and Grozny.
For their standards the Russians on the ground are pretty careful in their operations and partly because they see this as a mission to free their brothers from an evil regime.

This is why Macron predicts a long war because the Russians can move slowly to 'liberate' Ukraine town by town, street by street and reinforce the border areas they've captured like they did in the Donbas.
Creating an ever smaller pocket for Ukraine to defend in a war of attrition they can't afford.
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« Reply #10842 on: February 26, 2022, 07:22:14 AM »
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1497535683363233799

Poland getting everyone on board to kick the Russians from SWIFT. Orban drops his support for Putin.
They're in Berlin today to get the Germans on board as well.
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« Reply #10843 on: February 26, 2022, 08:32:21 AM »
This report is doing the round in the EU parliament, it paints a pretty grim picture for the Russians.

https://twitter.com/RihoTerras/status/1497537196282331137
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« Reply #10844 on: February 26, 2022, 08:41:01 AM »
I want to be optimistic but it has never worked out for me, ever. Hong Kong, Belarus, Myanmar...

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« Reply #10845 on: February 26, 2022, 09:10:39 AM »
Zelensky thanks Erdogan for closing the black sea to Russian warships.

China is calling on the fighting to end and has offered to mediate.

Ukraine has asked the Red Cross to take in the bodies of the dead Russian soldiers as Russian command refuses to collect them.

https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1497524209228079107

Ukraine starting to remove street signs to make sure that Russian forces stranded and lost stay that way.  :doge
https://twitter.com/NotWoofers/status/1497573576253313026

And everyone is making Molotov cocktails
https://twitter.com/sarahrainsford/status/1497573840691552261
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« Reply #10848 on: February 26, 2022, 10:48:27 AM »
Nobody seems to have noticed Steven Seagal was given Russian citizenship a few days ago. Coincidence? I think not.

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« Reply #10849 on: February 26, 2022, 10:52:58 AM »
Nobody seems to have noticed Steven Seagal was given Russian citizenship a few days ago. Coincidence? I think not.
FACT CHECK: Steven Seagal has had Russian citizenship since 2016.



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Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #10850 on: February 26, 2022, 11:16:12 AM »
Of course the real question is where is Dolph Lundgren

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« Reply #10851 on: February 26, 2022, 11:36:13 AM »
Of course the real question is where is Dolph Lundgren

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« Reply #10852 on: February 26, 2022, 12:28:31 PM »
Nobody seems to have noticed Steven Seagal was given Russian citizenship a few days ago. Coincidence? I think not.
FACT CHECK: Steven Seagal has had Russian citizenship since 2016.

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Surprised the FSB hasn't nuked the first image from the internet  :lol :lol :lol

The 6'4 Steven Seagal vs. the 5'5 (in heels) Vladimir Putin
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« Reply #10855 on: February 26, 2022, 12:46:57 PM »
https://twitter.com/ELINTNews/status/1497595498991177734

The Russians got absolutely wrecked today :dice

Looks like the EU strategy is to just send these guys all the rocket launchers so they can destroy the Russian armor.

https://twitter.com/herszenhorn/status/1497594179526008840

The invasion of Poland will be on horseback if this keeps up
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« Reply #10856 on: February 26, 2022, 12:47:15 PM »
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« Reply #10859 on: February 26, 2022, 01:22:33 PM »
Just as Russia reports Zelensky has fled he announces Russia is to be cut from SWIFT
https://twitter.com/ASLuhn/status/1497632562637795330

Also, he vows that they will keep fighting as long as it takes to liberate Ukraine.
https://twitter.com/berojag59060636/status/1497630415107936258

Finally he is now pushing for Russia to lose their seat and veto at the UN security council.
https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1497633468586541057

Germany finally delivering arms and helping to deliver Dutch arms to Ukraine. That's a total of 1000 German and 400 Dutch anti-tank missiles.
And 500 German and 200 Dutch stingers en route.
https://twitter.com/Bundeskanzler/status/1497632817450266632

Sweden and Finland blocked a Russian government plane from entering their airspace. Russia is being isolated more and more.

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