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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: demi on August 13, 2008, 12:03:49 AM

Title: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and I guess Scenester)
Post by: demi on August 13, 2008, 12:03:49 AM
just wanted to get this set up

ps. Braid sucks

Update: Bionic Commando also sucks
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDS
Post by: drohne on August 13, 2008, 12:14:44 AM
it's up on japan psn -- downloading demo now
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDS
Post by: cool breeze on August 13, 2008, 12:19:33 AM
Can't play it until tomorrow because of PSN, but picking this up for sure.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDSFDFS
Post by: Grecco on August 13, 2008, 12:19:57 AM
Cant fucking wait. No online multi is fail but still getting this, and Galaga Legions next week.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDSFDFS
Post by: demi on August 13, 2008, 12:20:38 AM
I picked up 3 Target cards today... I'm all set
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDS
Post by: cool breeze on August 13, 2008, 12:22:05 AM
Cant fucking wait. No online multi is fail but still getting this, and Galaga Legions next week.

Galaga Legions and Ratchet Quest for Booty next week.

This month is downloadable game bliss.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDSFDFS
Post by: pilonv1 on August 13, 2008, 12:23:02 AM
i didnt pay for braid, i got it for free and i feel ripped off

bring on castle crashers
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDS
Post by: bork on August 13, 2008, 01:10:58 AM
it's up on japan psn -- downloading demo now


Oh wow, japan gets it on time for once?!
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDSFDFS
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 13, 2008, 01:18:25 AM
Some one take pity on me and give me a 100 points from that car design thing  :'(
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDSFDFS
Post by: FatalT on August 13, 2008, 01:30:14 AM
Just played the demo and it rocks. I couldn't figure out how to jump to the finish line without missing or getting hit by spikes at the top on the roundabout challenge though.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDSFDFS
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 13, 2008, 01:31:32 AM
I liked Braid's music. I downloaded the iMix off itunes. The game is pretty zzz tho.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDSFDFS
Post by: JustinP on August 13, 2008, 01:52:40 AM
i didn't complete the last challenge (#2) either, but yeah, definitely getting teh game asap
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDS
Post by: Vrolokus on August 13, 2008, 02:46:29 AM
(http://www.joystickdivision.com/lotus-thumb.jpg)

Can't wait.


Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDSFDFS
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on August 13, 2008, 03:38:29 AM
got the J demo (it's in English on a US PS3) and it's totally awesome

don't want to blow my valuable points on it, tho, so will wait for the US version
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDSFDFS
Post by: demi on August 13, 2008, 04:06:22 AM
fuck it i'll just play it in the morning
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDSFDFS
Post by: Enl on August 13, 2008, 04:16:21 AM
XBLA version is up!
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDSFDFS
Post by: archie4208 on August 13, 2008, 05:31:26 AM
First level has brought me more enjoyment than all I played of Braid.  Best $10 I've spent in a long time.  Blow should feel ashamed for charging $15 for his glossed up flash game.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDSFDFS
Post by: pilonv1 on August 13, 2008, 07:02:29 AM
this is fun but i dont think id pay for it. better than braid thats for sure
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDSFDFS
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on August 13, 2008, 09:13:27 AM
Why must the demo be so short! I need more of this game  :'(
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDS
Post by: tiesto on August 13, 2008, 09:17:03 AM
I downloaded the Braid demo and although I was a bit confused on stage 4, the rest of it seemed pretty decent, if eerily reminiscent of Mario. Surprised at the hate. Downloading Bionic Commando the minute I get home though. Does it still have "experience" like the NES game? I used to grind a whole ton in the NES one, but I never beat that game.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDSFDFS
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on August 13, 2008, 09:52:16 AM
smh at EB's Braid hate
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDS
Post by: Kestastrophe on August 13, 2008, 11:08:52 AM
lol, i couldn't even beat the first isometric level. game is hardcore
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDS
Post by: border on August 13, 2008, 11:37:21 AM
For a game that is stored completely on the hard drive, Bionic Commando has some freaking wicked load times.  Even loading up the bland VR levels seems to take forever.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDSFDFS
Post by: DJ_Tet on August 13, 2008, 11:43:58 AM
When does this game come out?

And why does loading suck?
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDS
Post by: Kestastrophe on August 13, 2008, 01:24:57 PM
Wow, this game is stupid hard. I made it to the first boss and I managed to get his health half way down, but I couldn't do anything to him after that. Now I have to play through the entire oil refinery again.  :maf
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDSFDFS
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 13, 2008, 01:25:53 PM
The controls feel stiff and the loading is super-ass.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDSFDFS
Post by: muckhole on August 13, 2008, 02:02:36 PM
I'm being a cock and downloading it over our capped work wi-fi. I can't wait another week to see how it turned out.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDSFDFS
Post by: fistfulofmetal on August 13, 2008, 04:15:47 PM
I'm probably going to wait until this goes on sale or something.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDS
Post by: Mr. Gundam on August 13, 2008, 04:28:32 PM
It's only $10. Is that just too much to spend?
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDSFDFS
Post by: GilloD on August 13, 2008, 04:30:45 PM
I love how this thread went "YEAH AWESOME" to "This kind of sucks" in about 4 posts.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDSFDFS
Post by: JustinP on August 13, 2008, 04:39:23 PM
it'll go back to "YEAH AWESOME" after it's out on PSN tomorrow.  360 got the inferior screen tearing version: budget 360 hardware  :gloomy
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDS
Post by: fistfulofmetal on August 13, 2008, 04:40:25 PM
It's only $10. Is that just too much to spend?

I don't want it enough to get it day and date, and 6 or 7 bucks is better than 10
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDSFDFS
Post by: Kestastrophe on August 13, 2008, 04:51:08 PM
I don't think it sucks. The graphics are fantastic and everything animates nice, I just think the controls are a little rough and it is super difficult.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDSFDFS
Post by: Enl on August 13, 2008, 04:52:45 PM
Well they do have point cards on sale at Target, but seriously for all that you're getting with the package $10 is a hell of a good deal. This game will probably not go on sale any time in the next couple of years. This isn't one of your average cheapy, quicky games that usually plague XBLA.


I don't think it sucks. The graphics are fantastic and everything animates nice, I just think the controls are a little rough and it is super difficult.

The animation is very nice in this. Lots of attention to detail everywhere. Also switching to Control Layout C did wonders to my swinging ability.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDS
Post by: Mr. Gundam on August 13, 2008, 05:07:34 PM
Just played the Japanese PSN demo, can't wait for the game to come out tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDSFDFS
Post by: Rman on August 13, 2008, 05:23:42 PM
smh at EB's Braid hate
So true.  Braid is awesome.  But the only game that EB seemed to absolutely love was Saint's Row.  Go figure.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDSFDFS
Post by: demi on August 13, 2008, 05:29:47 PM
I just started - playing on Hard cause one of the achievements is for doing the hacking games on Hard
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDSFDFS
Post by: Costanza on August 13, 2008, 05:52:08 PM
I tried the 360 demo.. and the controls suck ass. I'm not buying this.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDSFDFS
Post by: FatalT on August 13, 2008, 05:54:16 PM
Arrrgg, this game fucking rocks. It's just like the NES version except they redesigned a few parts. Specifically the Albatross battle, which is now an actual entire stage. The new Albatross stage is owning me so hard.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDSFDFS
Post by: demi on August 13, 2008, 05:56:47 PM
What are the hacking minigames? So I know what to expect. I just got the "deflect 100 bullets" achievement - easy peasy

Trying to do Area 1 without firing my gun
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDSFDFS
Post by: JustinP on August 13, 2008, 05:59:34 PM
What are the hacking minigames? So I know what to expect. I just got the "deflect 100 bullets" achievement - easy peasy

Trying to do Area 1 without firing my gun
pretty simple puzzle games.  there's a ball and you need to get it to the goal.  can't think of anything to compare it to, but it feels familiar.  it was in the demo, too..
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDSFDFS
Post by: demi on August 13, 2008, 06:00:33 PM
i bought the game... no demo for me...
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDSFDFS
Post by: demi on August 13, 2008, 06:05:26 PM
alright i dont like this game, the claw controls are ass
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDSFDFS
Post by: demi on August 13, 2008, 06:38:42 PM
MAN SUMMER OF XBLA IS TURNING TO SHIT

CASTLE CRASHERS COME SAVE US ALL
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDSFDFS
Post by: FatalT on August 13, 2008, 06:41:09 PM
Hahaha I love the people who can't play this game.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on August 13, 2008, 06:45:55 PM
I haven't had any trouble with it, but then I was born and bred on the NES version
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 13, 2008, 06:49:09 PM
Could enemies take any longer hiding behind things? Be real now WTF
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: FatalT on August 13, 2008, 06:50:13 PM
Could enemies take any longer hiding behind things? Be real now WTF

If someone is standing in front of your barrel with a gun pointed at you, are you going to pop your head up? It is being real. Dummy. Duck for a little bit and they'll eventually pop up after they feel it's safe.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 13, 2008, 06:51:42 PM
Garbaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaage
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: FatalT on August 13, 2008, 06:54:13 PM
OMG THIS GAME IS TOO HARD. I'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO GET THE ACHIEVEMENTS FOR IT. I'LL JUST CLAIM THAT THE CONTROLS ARE BAD! SCREW THIS GAME ARRGGG.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 13, 2008, 06:57:08 PM
This boss is even worse - WTF you get no chance to climb up and grab a barrel
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 13, 2008, 06:59:20 PM
Nevermind figured that out... distinguished mentally-challenged
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: archie4208 on August 13, 2008, 07:04:34 PM
Bionic Commando is easy.  Weaksauce gamers.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 13, 2008, 07:13:17 PM
Ah jesus now I gotta deal with this shit in an overhead view
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: MrSingh on August 13, 2008, 07:16:06 PM
Never played the NES version (went from pong->Atari VCS->Genesis/SNES etc), so to me this game controls like garbage.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: FatalT on August 13, 2008, 07:17:39 PM
Bionic Commando: Separating the Men From the Little Boys Since 1988.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 13, 2008, 07:20:36 PM
How long is the game compared to the demo level? I never played the original.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 13, 2008, 07:21:18 PM
I dont see how playing the original has anything to do with this - I beat it too, guys

This is crap
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: border on August 13, 2008, 07:27:27 PM
The tunnel levels make me want to hurl the controller at a wall -- these weren't in the original were they?  Do you have to complete them to get to the end of the game?
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: FatalT on August 13, 2008, 07:29:01 PM
The tunnel levels make me want to hurl the controller at a wall -- these weren't in the original were they?  Do you have to complete them to get to the end of the game?

Not that I know of, although the bottom tunnel gets you the secret dossier which gives you hints to where weapon powerups and the shinjujubeans or whatever they're called are at. The top tunnel gives you the helmet.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: tiesto on August 13, 2008, 08:07:53 PM
The tunnel levels make me want to hurl the controller at a wall -- these weren't in the original were they?  Do you have to complete them to get to the end of the game?

Not that I know of, although the bottom tunnel gets you the secret dossier which gives you hints to where weapon powerups and the shinjujubeans or whatever they're called are at. The top tunnel gives you the helmet.

Heh, I thought that said anjunabeats upon glancing at it real fast. Anyways, what, does this not play identical to the NES version? I always thought it was to be a 1:1 remake with improved graphics. No time to d/l the demo for the next few days and see for myself :(
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: The Fake Shemp on August 13, 2008, 08:19:26 PM
Why are we trashing a NES port with fancy graphics for controlling like a NES game?
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: FatalT on August 13, 2008, 08:21:54 PM
Woohoo, I just beat it on normal. I need to go back and find out where all the weapon upgrades are to get both the achievement for all weapons and weapon upgrades and also the database achievement. Then it'll be time to move onto Hard or Super Hard.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: cool breeze on August 13, 2008, 08:23:10 PM
I am a bit confused about that too.  I don't understand what you people were expecting; it has always been a remake of the NES game with a few tweaks.  I haven't played it yet, but if it plays exactly like Bionic Commando on the NES, then that has me confident that I would really enjoy it.

This situation reminds me of people complaining about the controls in Castlevania Dracula X Chronicles for not playing like SotN.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: Vrolokus on August 13, 2008, 08:59:02 PM
I am a bit confused about that too.  I don't understand what you people were expecting; it has always been a remake of the NES game with a few tweaks.  I haven't played it yet, but if it plays exactly like Bionic Commando on the NES, then that has me confident that I would really enjoy it.

You'll really enjoy it. 

It plays virtually identically, the only differences actually being subtle refinements.  People complaining either 1) forgot how unforgiving the original was, 2) never played the original (or any game prior to 1990), or 3) are soft like marshmallows.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: JustinP on August 13, 2008, 09:03:14 PM
I am a bit confused about that too.  I don't understand what you people were expecting; it has always been a remake of the NES game with a few tweaks.  I haven't played it yet, but if it plays exactly like Bionic Commando on the NES, then that has me confident that I would really enjoy it.

You'll really enjoy it. 

It plays virtually identically, the only differences actually being subtle refinements.  People complaining either 1) forgot how unforgiving the original was, 2) never played the original (or any game prior to 1990), or 3) are soft like marshmallows.
for complainers, i think "3) are soft like marshmallows." is a constant
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on August 13, 2008, 09:46:27 PM
Just played the demo. Didn't like it one bit.

Guess I won't even bother when it goes on sale.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: Brehvolution on August 13, 2008, 09:49:52 PM
I'm pretty sure demi said he was starting out playing on hard, cut him a break.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 13, 2008, 09:51:53 PM
No, I was doing fine on Hard itself - it's the controls that are fucked

I'll jump back in and try to beat the game first, then go back with the upgraded weapons and armor
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: abrader on August 13, 2008, 09:55:35 PM
i must havr..

the nes game was completed more times than any other game i ever played!
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: FatalT on August 13, 2008, 10:06:16 PM
All I need are 2 Yashichis and the Plasma Gun upgrade and I'll get 3 achievements. :D
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: Jansen on August 13, 2008, 10:11:37 PM
this might come as a shocking surprise coming from me but the truth must be told: the psn version is better.

no tearing (at least in the demo), better shadows and as an added bonus for a ps3 game, it upscales.

that said this game like most psn/xbla titles isn't for me.

i really want to know why they couldn't get any aa going on in a fucking sidescroller.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: The Fake Shemp on August 13, 2008, 10:25:01 PM
The only screen tearing I've seen in the XBLA is in the tutorial level.  And I've played it a bit.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: abrader on August 13, 2008, 10:28:05 PM
ITs not on the PSN store :(

Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: Himu on August 13, 2008, 10:28:54 PM
I am playing BC for the first time. I got to the end of the first level I think and there's a door but I can't open it.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: Vrolokus on August 13, 2008, 10:33:02 PM
I am playing BC for the first time. I got to the end of the first level I think and there's a door but I can't open it.

Are you inside or outside?  In either case, you have to hit the communication rooms first before those doors open. 

Also: the levels are close enough to the original that - if you find yourself stuck - you could read a FAQ for the NES game.  In most cases.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: Himu on August 13, 2008, 10:34:10 PM
I am playing BC for the first time. I got to the end of the first level I think and there's a door but I can't open it.

Are you inside or outside?

In either case, you have to hit the communication rooms first before those doors open. 

Outside. I hit one communication room.

Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: Himu on August 13, 2008, 10:38:55 PM
THe controls are fine. Gamers are babies.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: cool breeze on August 13, 2008, 10:40:59 PM
I am also finding the controls a pain in the arse - yes, it's a remake of the NES version, but that means we can update the graphics/sound etc, but we simply must have the same shitty controls? :/

This isn't like MGS where everyone acknowledged that the controls in older games was shit; a lot of people, including myself, do think that Bionic Commando had great controls.  As long as they aren't changed, then I am happy with it.  Same case with Castlevania games.

Although yes, if they ever decided to make a sequel or something, then by all means they should learn from games like Umihara Kawase and Ninja 5-0.

Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on August 13, 2008, 10:50:09 PM
Well fuck this shit.

Bring on Castle Crashers.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: cool breeze on August 13, 2008, 10:52:22 PM
I can't believe now people are forgetting about Galaga Legions.  Ridiculous.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on August 13, 2008, 10:58:16 PM
Bring on Galaga Legions.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: tiesto on August 13, 2008, 11:04:26 PM
Just played the demo, it was short (come on, they didn't even let me fight the boss, or have the second part of the first stage with the elevators in it?) but it was pretty much the same thing as the NES version, right down to the controls. I wouldn't have it any other way. Oh, it had a lifebar and I didn't have to worry about grinding to build up my HP in this version. I don't get why everybody's so upset at this game's controls/gameplay... I thought the original Bionic Commando was a universally well-liked game.

It's definitely getting a purchase from me next time I pick up an XBLA points card. Can't wait for Galaga Legions, but with the rate the Summer of XBLA is going, people are gonna get really hyped up, play the game and declare it's shite.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 13, 2008, 11:06:17 PM
I'd declare it sooner but they wont release it early
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: FatalT on August 13, 2008, 11:37:22 PM
After playing hard mode, I can now see why demi isn't enjoying this game.

IT'S FUCKING CHEAP AS SHIT. I don't even want to play anymore.

FatalT: enemies have massive amounts of health
FatalT: you die in probably 3 hits as opposed to 4-5
FatalT: enemies fire more often
FatalT: regular enemies throw grenades
FatalT: enemies aren't stunned from your gunfire
demi: they get stunned sometimes
demi: its like "oof" and then they're back to shoving dicks in your face
FatalT: I made it to the cave and one enemy decided to diagnally fire at me but NEVER STOPPED
FatalT: what the fuck am I supposed to do to that, I can't do shit
demi: lol, yep
FatalT: fuck. that. shit.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: drohne on August 13, 2008, 11:56:31 PM
i don't know why castle crashers has become the great white hope for downloadables -- alien hominid was merely cute. i'll try the demo tho

braid :bow2
bionic commando :bow2
galaga legions :bow2
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 14, 2008, 12:00:15 AM
Castle Crashers will be fun, no harm in looking forward to it
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: cool breeze on August 14, 2008, 12:19:04 AM
I actually wasn't a fan of Alien Homnid at all.  I remember when it came out for Gamecube I tried it at an Gamestop in California, and the game wasn't that fun.  The way I was able to grasp why people enjoyed the game is because it was a 2D action game coming out in this day and age, and that is great and everything, but it is still not that great.  If I really wanted to play a good 2D action game, I had tons on my SNES or Genesis I could go play.  This is also how I justify why people put up with Odin Sphere and convinced themselves it was good; to be fair, Odin Sphere was gorgeous.

But Castle Crashers does look like it will be really good, and especially considering it has online play.

So far I will rank the recent XBLA/PSN/Wiiware (lol) offerings this month:

1) Geometry Wars 2
2) Pixel Junk Eden
3) Braid
4) Fable 2 Pub Games

I don't have Bionic Commando Rearmed yet, but I expect it to be #1 for me.  I also completely expect Galaga Legions and Ratchet Tools of Destruction to top that list next week.  Castle Crashers also is probably going to be at the top.
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Post by: demi on August 14, 2008, 12:20:27 AM
Alien Hominid is better than Contra 4
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Post by: drohne on August 14, 2008, 12:22:10 AM
i bought alien hominid twice, and all i can get out of it is an urge to play metal slug

buying geo wars once was plenty for me

i really like the pj eden demo, but i kind of feel like the lengthy demo is as much of the game as i need
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Post by: cool breeze on August 14, 2008, 12:28:18 AM
I am enjoying Geo Wars 2 much more than the first.  The new modes are really awesome and give you so much more to do with the game.
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Post by: MrAngryFace on August 14, 2008, 12:29:10 AM
Yeah GeoWars 2 >>> GeoWars but a pretty large margin
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Post by: Vizzys on August 14, 2008, 12:52:15 AM
i hate when demi is right but i did not like the demo of this

the trailer of the other bionic commando looked pretty cool though

I imagine that is what most of the almost 400mb download went towards considering the demo was like 2 mins long
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Post by: drohne on August 14, 2008, 01:14:07 AM
it seems very faithful to the original, and i can see why newcomers might dislike the controls. but if you like the soundtrack, you should definitely check out the original, which has some of the best chiptunes ever
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Post by: border on August 14, 2008, 01:15:04 AM
My only recollection of Alien Hominid was that it was just super-cheap.  Tons of hard-to-see bullets flying at high velocity.

Now I don't see that as a reason to expect Castle Crashers to suck, but I don't see that as a reason to expect it to be good either.
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Post by: Enl on August 14, 2008, 02:07:42 AM
For those with friends the multiplayer deathmatch is pretty fun. It's essentially one on one with many levels to choose from. It's pretty addicting if you have some decent players for friends. I kinda wish Capcom would make a Mega Man fighting game similar to it.
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Post by: cool breeze on August 14, 2008, 02:29:56 AM
For those with friends the multiplayer deathmatch is pretty fun. It's essentially one on one with many levels to choose from. It's pretty addicting if you have some decent players for friends. I kinda wish Capcom would make a Mega Man fighting game similar to it.

In a way they have.  Mega Man Power Battles/Fighters is basically you and a friend going against bosses. 
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Post by: Enl on August 14, 2008, 02:32:31 AM
For those with friends the multiplayer deathmatch is pretty fun. It's essentially one on one with many levels to choose from. It's pretty addicting if you have some decent players for friends. I kinda wish Capcom would make a Mega Man fighting game similar to it.

In a way they have.  Mega Man Power Battles/Fighters is basically you and a friend going against bosses. 

Eh, I'm talking about one on ones. I'm quite fond of the dueling it out with another player. Never was a big co-op person.
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Post by: cool breeze on August 14, 2008, 02:34:32 AM
Well, then hopefully BCR sells well and Capcom gets Grin and some of the MMPU team to work on MMPU2 on PSN/XBLA with online multiplayer of some kind.
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Post by: Enl on August 14, 2008, 02:38:23 AM
That and an advanced level creator.  :drool
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Post by: DJ_Tet on August 14, 2008, 08:08:46 AM
Bionic Commando is easy.  Weaksauce gamers.

Seriously.  I beat the original on a two day rental, and have beaten the game countless times since.  I can't wait to get my hands on this one, last time I played it was on GBA through emu obviously.

This and Castlevania II were the only games (well and Faxanadu) that I beat on a two day rental. 
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Post by: Kestastrophe on August 14, 2008, 08:19:09 AM
Alright, I switched the difficulty to easy, but now it is way too easy. Enemies go down in a single hit and there are invisible blocks on alot of gaps that prevent dying from falls. It is more enjoyable than normal, but too easy imo. I made it to the completely dark level, but I am not getting it. I made it to the computer HQ and he mentioned flares, but I leave the computer room and everything is pitch black still. Trying to platform up, but I can't see shit. Where are the fucking flares?!?!! :maf
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Post by: dark1x on August 14, 2008, 08:24:32 AM
i don't know why castle crashers has become the great white hope for downloadables -- alien hominid was merely cute. i'll try the demo tho

braid :bow2
bionic commando :bow2
galaga legions :bow2
Right on.  I don't understand all the Castle Crashers love either.  It always appeared rather repetitive to me.  Couple that with the huge life bars for every enemy and you have something that seems like it would get old quick.  Of course, I thought Alien Hominid was a terrible run and gun shooter as well.  Even the retail console game felt like an old flash title and lacked the finesse and design qualities of games like Metal Slug and Contra (the side scrolling games).  Castle Crashers seems like it will compare to classic brawlers in much the same way.

I'm shocked that people are bitching about Bionic Commando.  It does play like the NES game yet offers minor improvements to the formula.  I have to wonder if the people bitching really HAVE played the original at all (or have completely forgotten it).  What did you think it would play like?!

I'm surprised that the PSN version turned out superior, though.
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Post by: MCD on August 14, 2008, 08:47:59 AM
I'm not surprised.

there was another one before it, commando i think? 1080p, 2xaa and no framedrops on ps3 while 360 is only 720p 4xaa with framedrops.

lazy developers.
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Post by: archie4208 on August 14, 2008, 09:46:32 AM
I'm surprised that the PSN version turned out superior, though.

It's the power of :bow CELL :bow2
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Post by: Kestastrophe on August 14, 2008, 11:51:07 AM
Alright, I am starting to get used to this a bit now. I never played the original, and from the sounds of it this game is a faithful remake, including the controls. So anyone who has not played the original, expect a fairly steep learning curve and I would definitely try it on easy mode first.

As for getting stuck on 04, I ended up beating it without the flares. Then I went to 13 and got the flares and I was informed that I needed them to beat the map. It's this type of thing that I don't care for, because you pretty much have to have previous knowledge of the game. For someone without any context of this game, I thought that they did a bad job of explaining that you need to visit the friendly areas before you visit the enemy areas.
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Post by: FatalT on August 14, 2008, 03:35:49 PM
Alright, I am starting to get used to this a bit now. I never played the original, and from the sounds of it this game is a faithful remake, including the controls. So anyone who has not played the original, expect a fairly steep learning curve and I would definitely try it on easy mode first.

As for getting stuck on 04, I ended up beating it without the flares. Then I went to 13 and got the flares and I was informed that I needed them to beat the map. It's this type of thing that I don't care for, because you pretty much have to have previous knowledge of the game. For someone without any context of this game, I thought that they did a bad job of explaining that you need to visit the friendly areas before you visit the enemy areas.

If you read what the soldier says in the communications room on that level (which you're supposed to do to unlock the boss door I believe), he tells you the flares are in Area 13.
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Post by: Kestastrophe on August 14, 2008, 04:44:58 PM
Yeah, alot of it was my fault because I was just skipping through the text parts like I do in many games. It's actually kind of refreshing that there are boss hints and other vital information in the dialogue for a change, instead of just superficial story bullshit. Anyways, I am having fun with the game, I just don't know if I'll play it on a harder difficulty.
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Post by: FatalT on August 14, 2008, 04:46:38 PM
Yeah, alot of it was my fault because I was just skipping through the text parts like I do in many games. It's actually kind of refreshing that there are boss hints and other vital information in the dialogue for a change, instead of just superficial story bullshit. Anyways, I am having fun with the game, I just don't know if I'll play it on a harder difficulty.

Don't go any higher than normal. This is for your own good. Hard is disgusting.
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Post by: Kestastrophe on August 14, 2008, 04:55:39 PM
I'll take your word for it. I am not a masochistic gamer
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Post by: JustinP on August 14, 2008, 05:17:44 PM
i guess i missed it...  but what are these nut things that enemies sometimes drop?  they upgrade something? 
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Post by: FatalT on August 14, 2008, 05:24:04 PM
i guess i missed it...  but what are these nut things that enemies sometimes drop?  they upgrade something? 

The blue circles are just points and the green ones are health.
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Post by: JustinP on August 14, 2008, 05:25:07 PM
i guess i missed it...  but what are these nut things that enemies sometimes drop?  they upgrade something? 

The blue circles are just points and the green ones are health.
ah... points.......   eh
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Post by: FatalT on August 14, 2008, 05:27:02 PM
ah... points.......   eh

Yeah, I wish it was like the NES Bionic Commando where when you first start out, if you're hit once you die. When you killed enemies they dropped little bullets and after you collected a certain amount you'd get 1 more hit point. I remember grinding on soldiers in the first Area until I had like 4-5 health and then just plowing through the game. Good stuff.
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Post by: JustinP on August 14, 2008, 06:33:31 PM
am i doing something wrong?  i can't seem to unscrew the third bolt (mid level) on the 2nd boss...  it just clinks when i use my arm. 
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Post by: FatalT on August 14, 2008, 06:34:20 PM
am i doing something wrong?  i can't seem to unscrew the third bolt (mid level) on the 2nd boss...  it just clinks when i use my arm. 

You might have to crouch and do it.
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Post by: JustinP on August 14, 2008, 06:42:07 PM
am i doing something wrong?  i can't seem to unscrew the third bolt (mid level) on the 2nd boss...  it just clinks when i use my arm. 

You might have to crouch and do it.
:duh
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Post by: cool breeze on August 14, 2008, 06:49:32 PM
Got this on PS3 and so far it is awesome.  Had to go to control style C considering that one makes actual sense.
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Post by: abrader on August 14, 2008, 09:41:02 PM
So far I think its just OK - they could have done more with the music....and its odd seeing modern animated characters with such classic control scheme - but once I got back in the groove it all felt natural again.

I have high hopes for the online versus if its lag-less...

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Post by: Mr. Gundam on August 14, 2008, 09:42:39 PM
So far I think its just OK - they could have done more with the music....and its odd seeing modern animated characters with such classic control scheme - but once I got back in the groove it all felt natural again.

I have high hopes for the online versus if its lag-less...



Umm... there is no online versus. It's offline only.
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Post by: abrader on August 14, 2008, 09:58:17 PM
Ok well I hadnt tried vs or co-op yet so I had no idea.

The music is the worst part about it...other than that its a great recreation of the game with much tweaked.

The overhead parts seem much harder - till you get grenade :)


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Post by: JustinP on August 14, 2008, 09:59:29 PM
overhead view has minor aim assist that makes it pretty easy
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Post by: cool breeze on August 14, 2008, 11:09:00 PM
The damn PS3 stiff D-pad is killing my thumb.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on August 14, 2008, 11:18:06 PM
I played multi for like 40 minutes with Disposable White Guy (co-op too!) and it's a blast.  I'd imagine four players in deathmatch is hysterical.  We spent all our time grappling away from one another 'till someone got a shield power-up or a shotgun/missile power-up. :lol
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Post by: JustinP on August 15, 2008, 02:45:27 AM
most of the challenges 9-24 are pretty hard but 25-32 are all easy...
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Post by: TVC15 on August 15, 2008, 02:50:25 AM
i don't know why castle crashers has become the great white hope for downloadables -- alien hominid was merely cute. i'll try the demo tho

I think that it's an obvious homage to Guardian Heroes has a lot of people excited.  I wasn't particularly thrilled with Alien Hominid (yes, it was cheap), but it was acceptable as a "first real game" and I think Castle Crashers will turn out fine as long as they keep the cheapness in check.  It could still be as hard as fuck, but notch down that cheapness.

Also, oldskool beat-em-up is the deadest formerly-popular genre this side of decent graphic adventure.  I fuckin love me some 2D beat-em-ups, and I wish the genre hadn't died.  When I load up MAME, it is invariably to get a beat-em-up fix.
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Post by: MrAngryFace on August 15, 2008, 02:51:30 AM
Got it on 360, its pretty fun.
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Post by: drohne on August 15, 2008, 02:53:58 AM
there are some old school beatemups that remain richly playable, but even in the genre's heyday, most of those games were unbalanced quarter-suckers that got by on big sprites and multiplayer. and nothing in alien hominind makes me think that the behemoth can pull off sound genre design. i hope it turns out well. but i'm skeptical.
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Post by: MrAngryFace on August 15, 2008, 02:57:51 AM
That's why there's demos!
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Post by: TVC15 on August 15, 2008, 04:04:25 AM
there are some old school beatemups that remain richly playable, but even in the genre's heyday, most of those games were unbalanced quarter-suckers that got by on big sprites and multiplayer. and nothing in alien hominind makes me think that the behemoth can pull off sound genre design. i hope it turns out well. but i'm skeptical.

What you say is definitely true--when I spin up MAME, I only ever play two or three of these games before realizing that there is little variety between them, but the Guardian Heroes inspiration of Castle Crashers has me seeing stars.  I will gladly eat crow if it turns out awful.
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Post by: abrader on August 15, 2008, 07:46:11 AM
They really needed to recreate the snare shower magic of the OST theme song!

The music gets better further into the game - and the boses are a HUGE addition and make this worth playing thru.

I remember what it was like to play classic NES Bionic Commando again on the Capcom Mini Mix cart for GBA - I loved it but never did finish it again.

A wii VC release of the NES classic cant hold up to this. Too bad re-armed is too big to be a Wii-ware game...

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Post by: dark1x on August 15, 2008, 10:58:34 AM
Quote
A wii VC release of the NES classic cant hold up to this. Too bad re-armed is too big to be a Wii-ware game...
I don't believe Grin even has any Wii experience.  This engine wasn't designed for that platform and I doubt it would port easily.  The game would lose a lot of visual effects as the lighting model is actually pretty complex (which is surprising for a 2D game).

I believe it was mentioned in an interview that they wanted BC on the Virtual Console but something prevented it from happening.
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Post by: abrader on August 15, 2008, 11:14:03 AM
Quote
A wii VC release of the NES classic cant hold up to this. Too bad re-armed is too big to be a Wii-ware game...
I don't believe Grin even has any Wii experience.  This engine wasn't designed for that platform and I doubt it would port easily.  The game would lose a lot of visual effects as the lighting model is actually pretty complex (which is surprising for a 2D game).

I believe it was mentioned in an interview that they wanted BC on the Virtual Console but something prevented it from happening.

Nintendo doesn't wanna have it drive users to Bionic Commando re-armed and BC next-gen.

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Post by: Vrolokus on August 15, 2008, 12:57:41 PM
Yep, Nintendo stonewalled for some reason.
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Post by: archie4208 on August 15, 2008, 01:03:17 PM
Yep, Nintendo stonewalled for some reason.

Gotta make room for quality games such as Splatterhouse 2 and Sonic the Hedgehog (SMS version)
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Post by: Vrolokus on August 15, 2008, 05:12:04 PM
Gotta make room for quality games such as Splatterhouse 2 and Sonic the Hedgehog (SMS version)

 :lol

Wait a minute, why am I laughing?

 :'(
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Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on August 15, 2008, 06:55:55 PM
How are you supposed to play this game with the 360 d-pad?
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Post by: TVC15 on August 15, 2008, 07:11:19 PM
I got the PS3 version, lewlz.
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Post by: abrader on August 15, 2008, 07:30:31 PM
Some of the virtual stage challenges are bloody frustrating!

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Post by: abrader on August 15, 2008, 07:32:22 PM
They are really going to need to make a bionic commando REARMED 2. Ned new content with this engine!

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Post by: Vrolokus on August 15, 2008, 08:22:36 PM
How are you supposed to play this game with the 360 d-pad?

Why bother?  The analog stick works fine.  Since the arm works diagonally on it's own, the only directions you ever have to hit are up/down or left/right.
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Post by: JustinP on August 15, 2008, 08:27:29 PM
How are you supposed to play this game with the 360 d-pad?

Why bother?  The analog stick works fine.  Since the arm works diagonally on it's own, the only directions you ever have to hit are up/down or left/right.
i don't see how that lends itself to an analog stick.  the game plays much better with a d-pad--i only use the analog stick for the overhead parts. 
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Post by: Vrolokus on August 15, 2008, 11:22:07 PM
How are you supposed to play this game with the 360 d-pad?

Why bother?  The analog stick works fine.  Since the arm works diagonally on it's own, the only directions you ever have to hit are up/down or left/right.
i don't see how that lends itself to an analog stick.  the game plays much better with a d-pad--i only use the analog stick for the overhead parts. 

What I was trying to say was: since you only have to ever hit very broad directions, even an analog stick suffices.  It's not like VF5 or something where precise directional movements are crucial.
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Post by: JustinP on August 15, 2008, 11:35:59 PM
How are you supposed to play this game with the 360 d-pad?

Why bother?  The analog stick works fine.  Since the arm works diagonally on it's own, the only directions you ever have to hit are up/down or left/right.
i don't see how that lends itself to an analog stick.  the game plays much better with a d-pad--i only use the analog stick for the overhead parts. 

What I was trying to say was: since you only have to ever hit very broad directions, even an analog stick suffices.  It's not like VF5 or something where precise directional movements are crucial.

well if you do accidently do a diagnal, it's still going to use the diagnal hook instead. 
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Post by: demi on August 15, 2008, 11:43:34 PM
I play with Analog just fine, maybe I'm just a better gamer than you all but maybe that's just me
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Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on August 15, 2008, 11:47:37 PM
I play with Analog just fine, maybe I'm just a better gamer than you all but maybe that's just me

Oh yeah, well I play while being felated by a bear trap.

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Post by: demi on August 15, 2008, 11:50:45 PM
Do not
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Post by: Vrolokus on August 16, 2008, 12:01:16 AM
How are you supposed to play this game with the 360 d-pad?

Why bother?  The analog stick works fine.  Since the arm works diagonally on it's own, the only directions you ever have to hit are up/down or left/right.
i don't see how that lends itself to an analog stick.  the game plays much better with a d-pad--i only use the analog stick for the overhead parts. 

What I was trying to say was: since you only have to ever hit very broad directions, even an analog stick suffices.  It's not like VF5 or something where precise directional movements are crucial.

well if you do accidently do a diagnal, it's still going to use the diagnal hook instead. 

*shrug*  I think it's pretty unlikely people are trying to hit something as simple as UP or RIGHT and inputting a diagonal instead.  Usually it's the other way around.

The point is: you can get away with using the analog with this game, because the motions aren't complex.  The timing of them is, but not the motions themselves.
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Post by: demi on August 16, 2008, 12:07:38 AM
Damn Area 4 boss is ridiculous... can't even get around cause I'm bumping into people
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Post by: demi on August 16, 2008, 12:09:51 AM
Nevermind, killed him in a single Grenade... confirming awesome gamingness
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Post by: JustinP on August 16, 2008, 12:30:06 AM
How are you supposed to play this game with the 360 d-pad?

Why bother?  The analog stick works fine.  Since the arm works diagonally on it's own, the only directions you ever have to hit are up/down or left/right.
i don't see how that lends itself to an analog stick.  the game plays much better with a d-pad--i only use the analog stick for the overhead parts. 

What I was trying to say was: since you only have to ever hit very broad directions, even an analog stick suffices.  It's not like VF5 or something where precise directional movements are crucial.

well if you do accidently do a diagnal, it's still going to use the diagnal hook instead. 

*shrug*  I think it's pretty unlikely people are trying to hit something as simple as UP or RIGHT and inputting a diagonal instead.  Usually it's the other way around.

The point is: you can get away with using the analog with this game, because the motions aren't complex.  The timing of them is, but not the motions themselves.
the game is built for a d-pad.  i'm sure you could get by with a lot of handicaps, such as using an analog stick, but there's not really a reason to unless you're playing with the shitty 360 pad.  *shrug*

i could use the analog stick if i wanted, but there's no reason to--it controls much better with a d-pad. 

Nevermind, killed him in a single Grenade... confirming awesome gamingness
what took you so long?  you've had a day head start and you're only that far? 
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Post by: demi on August 16, 2008, 12:31:34 AM
I didnt play it since then cause I was playing Pub Games and Operation Darkness and getting those out of the way.
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Post by: cool breeze on August 16, 2008, 12:40:26 AM
Area 10 gets me so angry.  Fucking radio control drone bitch, I will pee on your corpse when I finally kill you.
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Post by: Vrolokus on August 16, 2008, 01:35:31 AM
the game is built for a d-pad.  i'm sure you could get by with a lot of handicaps, such as using an analog stick, but there's not really a reason to unless you're playing with the shitty 360 pad.  *shrug*

i could use the analog stick if i wanted, but there's no reason to--it controls much better with a d-pad. 

...aaaand now you're just acting like you're in some sort of pissing contest.  Because I can't think of a single way this game plays any differently via analog or digital.  The analog isn't a handicap by any stretch of the imagination, and saying it's "built for the d-pad" when either works identically makes it seem like you just love to type.

Maybe you prefer d-pads to analog; if so, bully for you.  But that's personal preference, the game certainly doesn't require it, and a person's play isn't going to be impacted by using an analog instead.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: JustinP on August 16, 2008, 01:39:25 AM
the game is built for a d-pad.  i'm sure you could get by with a lot of handicaps, such as using an analog stick, but there's not really a reason to unless you're playing with the shitty 360 pad.  *shrug*

i could use the analog stick if i wanted, but there's no reason to--it controls much better with a d-pad. 

...aaaand now you're just acting like you're in some sort of pissing contest.  Because I can't think of a single way this game plays any differently via analog or digital.  The analog isn't a handicap by any stretch of the imagination, and saying it's "built for the d-pad" when either works identically makes it seem like you just love to type.

Maybe you prefer d-pads to analog; if so, bully for you.  But that's personal preference, the game certainly doesn't require it, and a person's play isn't going to be impacted by using an analog instead.
it's built for the d-pad because there's no additional functionality attained with the analog stick (except for maybe in the seperate overhead portions, which i do play with an analog stick).  they don't work identically, either.  the analog stick translates excessive analog input into digital output -- d-pad is digital to digital. 
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 16, 2008, 01:45:10 AM
Analog is fine
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: Vrolokus on August 16, 2008, 01:46:18 AM
it's built for the d-pad because there's no additional functionality attained with the analog stick (except for maybe in the seperate overhead portions, which i do play with an analog stick).
 

1) There's no "additonal functionality" with the d-pad, either...

2) but there's no "additional functionality" with analog aside from the top-down segments.  And the hyper-bazooka.  And arguably the hacking sequences... So to recap:

d-pad: no additional functionality
analog: additional functionality
=
BCR built for the d-pad, using the analog is a "handicap"  

Gotcha.  

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they don't work identically, either.  the analog stick translates excessive analog input into digital output -- d-pad is digital to digital. 

Oh brother.

Analog works fine for this game.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: border on August 16, 2008, 01:47:13 AM
there are some old school beatemups that remain richly playable, but even in the genre's heyday, most of those games were unbalanced quarter-suckers that got by on big sprites and multiplayer. and nothing in alien hominind makes me think that the behemoth can pull off sound genre design. i hope it turns out well. but i'm skeptical.


Did you ever post a FINAL JUDGMENT on Contra 4, by the way?  I got a copy as a Christmas gift, and I played a little but I just couldn't get into it.  The dual-screen setup annoyed me more than anything else.  I'm wondering if it's worth picking the game back up or not.  I loved Shattered Soldier, but obviously they took a different direction with the DS game.

As for beat-em-ups......yeah, I still cringe when I see someone post an Appreciation Thread for one of Konami's licensed efforts.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: Vrolokus on August 16, 2008, 01:48:48 AM
Contra IV is pretty great, but it's a departure from SS.  If you liked Contra III, you'll like Contra IV.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 16, 2008, 01:52:59 AM
Contra 4 is garbage

The Challenge Rooms in this game are garbage too
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: cool breeze on August 16, 2008, 01:54:39 AM
Analog is fine.  D-pad is vastly superior.

You can tell they considered that people would use the analog stick when they added the ability to walk.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: JustinP on August 16, 2008, 01:58:23 AM
it's built for the d-pad because there's no additional functionality attained with the analog stick (except for maybe in the seperate overhead portions, which i do play with an analog stick).
 

1) There's no "additonal functionality" with the d-pad, either...

2) but there's no "additional functionality" with analog aside from the top-down segments.  So to recap:

d-pad: no additional functionality
analog: additional functionality
=
BCR built for the d-pad, using the analog is a "handicap"  

Gotcha.  

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they don't work identically, either.  the analog stick translates excessive analog input into digital output -- d-pad is digital to digital. 

Oh brother.

Analog works fine for this game.

they could have potentially made you control the claw with waggle gestures.  but it would be a more extreme scenario where you have excessive input for a game with very simple mechanics.  you see how waggle gestures wouldn't be as ideal as a d-pad or even an analog stick, right?  if you can't see the advantage of using a d-pad for a game with no analog mechanics, you're an idiot.  using an analog stick does not give you any more control over the game, yet it takes away the precision the d-pad gives you.  it's a simple concept.  

The Challenge Rooms in this game are garbage too
i think i may like the challenge rooms more than the actual game.  
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 16, 2008, 01:59:55 AM
I'm on Room 18... fucking distinguished mentally-challenged
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: Vrolokus on August 16, 2008, 02:13:17 AM
you could potentially control the claw with mouse gestures if you wanted.  but it would be a more extreme scenario where you have excessive input for a game with very simple mechanics.  you see how mouse gestures aren't as ideal as a d-pad or even an analog stick, right?  if you can't see the advantage of using a d-pad for a game with no analog mechanics, you're an idiot.  using an analog stick does not give you any more control over the game, yet it takes away the precision the d-pad gives you.  it's a simple concept.  

Oh yes, I'm the idiot.   :lol

Dude, I think you just slipped into vintage dfyb mode and decided to take a position - however untenable - simply because in the end tally it would make the PS3 look good and the 360 look bad.  No need to start getting red in the face just because it's, in this case, bullshit.  The whole mouse thing is just silly and pointless, when you yourself said aspects of the game are indeed tooled for the analog stick.  I guess you'd argue the game was not only "built for the d-pad", but built so the player switches control methods throughout the game?  That's an odd choice Grin made.   ::)

I've done enough of the challenge rooms - and enough of them well - to say what I've been saying all along: analog is fine for this game, because the only directions you ever have to hit are cardinal points.  It's purely a matter of what feels better to your thumb, the d-pad or the stick.  


Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: JustinP on August 16, 2008, 02:39:26 AM
you could potentially control the claw with mouse gestures if you wanted.  but it would be a more extreme scenario where you have excessive input for a game with very simple mechanics.  you see how mouse gestures aren't as ideal as a d-pad or even an analog stick, right?  if you can't see the advantage of using a d-pad for a game with no analog mechanics, you're an idiot.  using an analog stick does not give you any more control over the game, yet it takes away the precision the d-pad gives you.  it's a simple concept.  

Oh yes, I'm the idiot.   :lol

Dude, I think you just slipped into vintage dfyb mode and decided to take a position - however untenable - simply because in the end tally it would make the PS3 look good and the 360 look bad.  No need to start getting red in the face just because it's, in this case, bullshit.  The whole mouse thing is just silly and pointless, when you yourself said aspects of the game are indeed tooled for the analog stick.  I guess you'd argue the game was not only "built for the d-pad", but built so the player switches control methods throughout the game?  That's an odd choice Grin made.   ::)
yeah, you're the idiot--it's like i'm arguing with a fucking 12 year old who can't just think logically.  if d-pad really wasn't the better option, this wouldn't even be an issue.  the only reason you're having to defend using an analog stick in a 2D remake like a fucking tool is because you got it on 360. 

an odd choice grin made, you say?  it's a fucking remake of an NES game -- a game that was designed for the d-pad.  the only reason the analog stick is useful in the top down portion is because of the inherent qualities of the analog stick in that you have full 360 range.  but the same advantages DO NOT carry over for the main singleplayer portion, the challenge rooms, or the multiplayer--the large majority of the game relies exclusively on digital mechanics that are designed around and work best with a digital interface like a d-pad.   

analog is fine for this game, because the only directions you ever have to hit are cardinal points.  
if the only directions you need to hit are cardinal points, how is d-pad not the better option?  the d-pad is cardinal points :lol. 

Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 16, 2008, 02:48:36 AM
How the fuck do you hurt Area 02 boss?

What a piece of shit game
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 16, 2008, 02:51:09 AM
WHY DONT U GO EAT UR GAS SsATION FUD
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 16, 2008, 02:54:33 AM
Maybe you should
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on August 16, 2008, 02:57:09 AM
JustinP, I bought it on PS3 and I use the analog sticks. :P

Made it to the last level tonight.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
cleared each of the three sections, though not in one go - need to go stock up on lives before I give it my all. also like what they did with "Master D"
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Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 16, 2008, 02:57:46 AM
Im eating for two at the 7-11 tonight!
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: JustinP on August 16, 2008, 03:00:06 AM
JustinP, I bought it on PS3 and I use the analog sticks. :P
some people even prefer analog sticks over mouse and keyboard for first person shooters and RTS.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: cool breeze on August 16, 2008, 03:00:11 AM
How the fuck do you hurt Area 02 boss?

What a piece of shit game

Which one is that? the guy with a sword who just stands there as enemies spawn? just use a grenade.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: JustinP on August 16, 2008, 03:01:19 AM
yeah it's hard to know what levels people are talking about--why are they all out of order? 
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 16, 2008, 03:01:30 AM
No... its the one where you have to do distinguished mentally-challenged blocking exercises in the machine

All I can do is swing and get a couple shots in afterwards... are they for real? Fuck this developer
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 16, 2008, 03:01:47 AM
Yeah robot and fat sword guy were easy
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on August 16, 2008, 03:01:57 AM
JustinP, I bought it on PS3 and I use the analog sticks. :P
some people even prefer analog sticks over mouse and keyboard for first person shooters and RTS.

your argument doesn't make any sense, though.

I find it easier to hit diagonals on the analog than the d-pad because of its unified nature; sometimes I just press one of the two parts of a diagonal and it registers incorrectly. why should I use the control scheme that causes me to make mistakes again? :P

and do you understand that there's no lack of precision or response time between using the d-pad or using the analog stick, so WHY ARE WE EVEN HAVING THIS DISCUSSION
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: cool breeze on August 16, 2008, 03:08:23 AM
No... its the one where you have to do distinguished mentally-challenged blocking exercises in the machine

All I can do is swing and get a couple shots in afterwards... are they for real? Fuck this developer

The one where you have a half circle around you and you just block in that direction? that boss was incredibly easy.  You should have the bazooka and it only takes a few hits to take him down.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 16, 2008, 03:09:33 AM
How do you shoot him with the Bazooka?
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 16, 2008, 03:12:08 AM
OH WTF you can fucking grab on another ledge right next to him... how the fuck was I supposed to know that
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: cool breeze on August 16, 2008, 03:16:27 AM
What the hell were you doing the whole time then? You see the guy exposed, you see two ledges, and you never stopped to think that they can be related?

So far the bosses are all really easy except for the one guy in area 7 or 8 (I think).  That boss fight was awesome, and it really makes me want to try versus in this game.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: JustinP on August 16, 2008, 03:38:16 AM
I find it easier to hit diagonals on the analog than the d-pad because of its unified nature; sometimes I just press one of the two parts of a diagonal and it registers incorrectly. why should I use the control scheme that causes me to make mistakes again? :P
if you press "one of the two parts of a diagnal," you're pressing a single cardinal direction (as in, not a diagnal)...  it's not registering it incorrectly, you are literally DOING IT WRONG, and it registers your mistake correctly as a mistake.  it'd be like saying "i'm sometimes closer to right instead of up right on an analog stick and it won't register it right for me."  see how your stupid argument can be directly applied to what you're supporting?  yeah, that means your stupid argument is fucking pointless. 

analog sticks are better when there's a need for full 360 input.  when there's digital 4-8 way movement, such as in BCR, a d-pad is better.  why?  because there's a more accurate relationship with the interface and the mechanic. 

your problem is that you think i'm telling you how to play the game.  if you prefer the analog stick, of course you should use the analog stick.  i'm not saying you shouldn't.  i'm saying the d-pad is better suited for BCR's mechanics for the large majority of the game (all but top-down portion).  just like the mouse and keyboard is unquestionably better for first person shooters, the d-pad and analog stick also have certain games and game mechanics that they work best with.  you prefer the analog stick for BCR, and some people prefer the analog sticks for first person shooters, but that doesn't have much to do with which is inherently better. 
and do you understand that there's no lack of precision or response time between using the d-pad or using the analog stick, so WHY ARE WE EVEN HAVING THIS DISCUSSION
there damn well is a difference.  "left" on a d-pad means "left contact" -- "left" on an analog stick means "anywhere between 157.5 (+/- .1) degrees and 202.5 degrees (+/- .1)."  "up left diagnal" on a d-pad means "left contact + up contact" -- "up left diagnal" on an analog stick means "anywhere between 202.5 (+/- .1) degrees and 247.5 (+/- .1) degrees." 

by definition, analog controls are less precise than a d-pad when it comes to digital mechanics like in BCR. 
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 16, 2008, 03:47:56 AM
This part with the barrels on Area 06? Yeah, that's distinguished mentally-challenged too. This isn't even fun anymore.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on August 16, 2008, 06:46:06 AM
JustinP, you're a very sick individual and I hope you find help
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on August 16, 2008, 06:53:37 AM
actually, fuck this, your post is so fucking stupid that I am going to get myself banned from the board just so I don't have to share it with your distinguished mentally-challenged
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: Vrolokus on August 16, 2008, 02:01:19 PM
Wow.   :lol
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: JustinP on August 16, 2008, 03:14:04 PM
Quote
there damn well is a difference.  "left" on a d-pad means "left contact" -- "left" on an analog stick means "anywhere between 157.5 (+/- .1) degrees and 202.5 degrees (+/- .1)."  "up left diagnal" on a d-pad means "left contact + up contact" -- "up left diagnal" on an analog stick means "anywhere between 202.5 (+/- .1) degrees and 247.5 (+/- .1) degrees." 


the interpretation of analogue input is defined by the coders - it's not bolted down.

The X360 version at least seems to have a VERY narrow interpretation of the diagonals that makes the controls frustrating.

yeah, use digital/bububu the original was like this - but hey, i feel more comfortable using the analogue.


yeah, there can be variation, but it really doesn't matter because it's the same principle.  by definition, it's less precise -- "left" can mean a near infinite number of possibilities within a range of degrees on an analog stick, but "left" is precisely ONE input on an analog stick.  this shouldn't be hard for you guys to grasp. 

and once again, i'm not telling you how you should play.  if you prefer analog, you should use analog.  but that doesn't change the FACT that analog sticks are less precise than d-pads for digital, 8 way mechanics. 

actually, fuck this, your post is so fucking stupid that I am going to get myself banned from the board just so I don't have to share it with your distinguished mentally-challenged
Wow.   :lol
:rofl so you guys just sit and cry when you are proven wrong? 

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Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: Vrolokus on August 16, 2008, 04:08:01 PM
so you guys just sit and cry when you are proven wrong? 

Who got proven wrong?  The only thing that got "proven" is that you'll go to the mat over a bullshit argument rather than, you know, have some self-respect and admit you might be wrong.

I guarantee I know this game - both the original and Rearmed - better than you, thus can very comfortably say your "it's built for the d-pad and the analog is a handicap" position is silly.  And you can cite (irrelevant) numbers and rationalize like a lunatic all you want, but I think just about everyone knows you wouldn't even have an opinion on this if it wasn't for your almost comical console bias.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: JustinP on August 16, 2008, 04:32:22 PM
so you guys just sit and cry when you are proven wrong? 

Who got proven wrong?  The only thing that got "proven" is that you'll go to the mat over a bullshit argument rather than, you know, have some self-respect and admit you might be wrong.

I guarantee I know this game - both the original and Rearmed - better than you, thus can very comfortably say your "it's built for the d-pad and the analog is a handicap" position is silly.  And you can cite (irrelevant) numbers and rationalize like a lunatic all you want, but I think just about everyone knows you wouldn't even have an opinion on this if it wasn't for your almost comical console bias.

at this point, i'm not confident you're even capable of logically understanding the facts.  you shamefully play the 'fanboy' card when proven wrong.  yeah, proven wrong--i've had to go to ridiculous lengths to prove that d-pads are more precise than analog sticks for this type of game, only because you are too stupid or stubborn to admit you were wrong.  you make statements that fly in the face of reason and logic, and you have not debunked anything i've said. 

you seem to need help.  here is the definition of precise - 1 : exactly or sharply defined or stated.  because analog sticks will accept any of a possible range of degrees as a single input for BCR, it is factually and unquestionably imprecise.  "left" can mean 160 degrees and it can mean 200 degrees on an analog stick--it's not precise.  these aren't "irrelevant" numbers just because you are having trouble wrapping your head around them.  these are facts that you can't just jabber "you're wrong because you're a fanboy, HURRR" at. 

and i can't believe you're still saying the game wasn't built for a d-pad.  you're so familiar with the original game, it should be obvious that d-pads, and not analog sticks, were the directional interface for NES.  being an NES game designed for the NES controller, the game's controls and mechanics were designed to use a d-pad and not an analog stick--so yeah, you can say it was "built for" the d-pad.  for BCR, support for the analog stick was added without changing how the game plays--the analog stick only tries to imitate the d-pad.  yet you still want to claim that an NES game was not built for the d-pad?  or that somehow, an NES game was built with analog sticks in mind? 

using a less precise interface would logically be a handicap.  and some people could even prefer using the analog stick.  but that doesn't change the fact that the d-pad is more precise for this game and that this game was built for the d-pad.  but please, continue to disregard facts and logic.  tell me these facts are wrong because i'm a "fanboy" one more time.   ::)
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 16, 2008, 05:22:31 PM
Challenge Room 48 - distinguished mentally-challenged

Who comes up with this crap
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: Vizzys on August 16, 2008, 05:25:08 PM
get a room fa gg ots
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: MCD on August 16, 2008, 05:35:37 PM
get a room fa gg ots
:drool
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 16, 2008, 05:46:23 PM
Has anyone done 48 yet? Anyone at all.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 16, 2008, 06:01:20 PM
I DID IT AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 16, 2008, 06:01:55 PM
With an Analog Stick btw
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: MCD on August 16, 2008, 06:04:43 PM
lmao
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: JustinP on August 16, 2008, 06:08:18 PM
i've been taking a break from BCR.  what's 48 have you do?
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on August 16, 2008, 06:09:38 PM
With an Analog Stick btw

Impossible.  Left is 157.5 (+/- .1) degrees and 202.5 degrees (+/- .1) for christ's sake!
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: Vrolokus on August 16, 2008, 06:15:09 PM
guess IGN is a bunch of ps3 fanboys, too   

"While I love the swinging elements in BCR, I can't ignore one issue. The D-Pad, particularly on Xbox 360, is not always the friendliest thing."

Maybe he should try the analog, it works perfectly.  Not to mention he says particularly, as in both d-pads aren't always the friendliest thing, as in the analog is preferable.  (Nice edit, by the way... maybe for the first time ever you realized how stupid what you said was before posting it?) 

Enjoy having the last word, it's all yours.  I'm starting to feel a tickle in the back of my throat and worry it might be the first symptoms of whatever strange form of distinguished mentally-challenged you have.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: JustinP on August 16, 2008, 06:25:00 PM
Not to mention he says particularly, as in both d-pads aren't always the friendliest thing
:lol "particular" typically refers to a unique example from a group -- he is EXCLUDING the PS3 d-pad, as the 360 d-pad is a particular case.  and i edited it because it says less about 'analog vs d-pad' and more about 'ps3 d-pad > 360 d-pad,' which is already known and accepted. 

nice to see you're still as stupid as ever, though.  not surprising, because i bet you're not alone on this forum thinking that analog sticks are just as precise for FPS as a mouse.  same argument, basically.  same idiotic mindset present on this forum in abundance (sup hitler potato) that can't distinguish the difference between user preference and what is more inherently precise.  preferring (or even doing better with) a less precise interface (analog stick, in this context) does not change it's inherent properties.   :lol
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 16, 2008, 07:25:30 PM
I dont think I'm going to have a TV by the time I'm done with this fucking game...
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on August 16, 2008, 08:29:41 PM
Time to move that TV to the left demi.  157.5 (+/- .1) degrees to 202.5 degrees (+/- .1) should do it.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 16, 2008, 08:37:34 PM
I'm just having trouble on all these bosses
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: Vrolokus on August 16, 2008, 09:08:48 PM
Time to move that TV to the left demi.  157.5 (+/- .1) degrees to 202.5 degrees (+/- .1) should do it.

Not precise enough.  Don't be a stupid-head, stupid-head.   ::)

demi, is there a boss in particular?  Also: are you attempting hard your first time out?  Because hard is, well... hard
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 16, 2008, 09:17:32 PM
I'm doing Hard for the Hacker achievement... I'm fighting the hadoken throwing boss... no idea what I'm supposed to be doing
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: Rman on August 16, 2008, 09:45:45 PM
I'm really enjoying this game.  Great job by Capcom/Grin.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 16, 2008, 10:31:53 PM
I just killed Area 08 boss... and it didnt even count

It just kept on going

I had to shut the game off, I know that didnt just happen to me
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: cool breeze on August 16, 2008, 10:33:16 PM
That boss has 3 stages.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: FatalT on August 16, 2008, 11:02:04 PM
I'm done with this game. I only have two more achievements to get: Challenge Room and Super Hard completion. I just tried Super Hard and OH MY GOD. You die in 2 hits. I'm probably never going to beat the game on Super Hard.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 17, 2008, 01:02:48 AM
I'm a masochist, I'm playing this game again right now
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: demi on August 17, 2008, 01:09:47 AM
That boss has 3 stages.

And I dunno what you're talking about, I just beat him now and there was no 3 stages. I killed the general, dropped down and shot the soldiers (something I DIDNT have to do in the previous fight) and I'm still furious about that
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: cool breeze on August 17, 2008, 01:20:28 AM
I thought you were talking about the guy with the grapple.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 17, 2008, 01:22:48 AM
No I said I killed the boss, with that fight he still has his health
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 17, 2008, 02:15:59 AM
I got the Hacking achievement, but I dont know if I want to bother continuing. I think I'll do an Easy run and get everything, then Super Hard.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: Vrolokus on August 17, 2008, 02:28:22 AM
I got the Hacking achievement, but I dont know if I want to bother continuing. I think I'll do an Easy run and get everything, then Super Hard.

If you've been playing hard, easy will be a cakewalk.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 17, 2008, 02:37:51 AM
I said fuck it and started Easy, I might as well see the Ending without any hassle before I give up on Super Hard
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 17, 2008, 09:14:13 AM
All I need to do is Challenge 56... I get stuck at one part cause I cant get a good grab going to snatch the pill with

Fuuuuuck
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 17, 2008, 05:02:27 PM
I DID IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD

FINAL TIME 89.663 OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 17, 2008, 06:38:06 PM
Man Super Hard doesnt fuck around... lol

I beat Area 01 though, at least I got some Grenades
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: Vrolokus on August 17, 2008, 07:13:11 PM
Mad skilz (Challenge Room 56)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKhp7euYrDQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKhp7euYrDQ)
 :o

Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: cool breeze on August 17, 2008, 07:17:04 PM
Mad skilz (Challenge Room 56)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKhp7euYrDQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKhp7euYrDQ)
 :o



I can never hope to achieve that.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 17, 2008, 07:18:14 PM
I DID THAT ROOM!!!!
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: Vrolokus on August 17, 2008, 07:19:25 PM
I DID THAT ROOM!!!!

Seriously: you are the shit, then.  I forgive you for not liking Braid.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 17, 2008, 07:21:35 PM
My final time was 89.663, he beat me, but I bet I could do better with another run -- which no way in HELL am I doing
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 17, 2008, 07:22:47 PM
That video makes it look so easy but OMG you will fuck up so much over the dumbest moves
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 17, 2008, 07:24:56 PM
I did it with an Analog Stick btw

JustinP annihilated... dont mess with the best
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a
Post by: Vrolokus on August 17, 2008, 08:13:43 PM
I've attempted the room at least 150 times, and you're right about him making it look easy.  Not one error in the whole video.  Just watching it, you don't realize how there are like 15,000 ways to screw up and die in that room.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 17, 2008, 09:07:30 PM
Super Hard  :'(

Area 06 boss has Homing Rockets now... I cant even get a barrel close to him

Area 04 tunnel is worse since it takes two (!) rockets to kill a pirate, and it takes like 12 bullets to kill a regular soldier
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 17, 2008, 09:37:27 PM
Yessss I got Area 06... just 04 and 03 left
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 17, 2008, 10:14:11 PM
Fuck yeah, beat Area 04... Yayyyyyyyyyyy Plasma Rifle
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 18, 2008, 01:40:47 AM
Just need Area 08 and 10 now
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 18, 2008, 04:21:44 AM
I'm at the Albatross now... so close
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of people who didnt buy Braid HA HA HA AHA HADSDS
Post by: Wolf Gang on August 18, 2008, 09:46:25 AM
It's only $10. Is that just too much to spend?

$10 can easily add up to buyer's remorse over time if you've bought a lot of worthless shit, which, like, 90% of the stuff on PSN is (See: Flow, Everyday Shooter, Calling All Cars, PixelJunk Monsters, all the current PSOne games, etc.).
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on August 18, 2008, 09:50:32 AM
Everyday Shooter is easily worth 10 bucks imo.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 18, 2008, 09:51:30 PM
I'm on the last boss... but cant read his rockets for shit. The only obstacle left to this damn game. Nobody is giving any advice on forums because nobody is as far as me yet.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 19, 2008, 08:11:19 AM
Day 3 - I can now do the entire Albatross near-flawlessly, but still get massacred by Hitler, but I am getting better at doing the rockets by jamming the Back button, which pauses the game but is transparent enough to see where the bottom rockets are heading.

It's just pulling off Rocket shots which is difficult, since you have to be moving at the same time while maneuvering the rocket.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: Wolf Gang on August 19, 2008, 08:18:20 AM
Everyday Shooter is worth like 25 cents, or maybe not even that, especially because the graphics and the music suck. Mak and Blow should just get with each other and stick to making SNES ROMs for ZSNES.

Super Stardust HD is easily worth $1, though. A single George Washington bill is all an Asteroids clone on steroids deserves.

Quest for Booty might be worth the $15 they're charging for it, hopefully there'll be a demo of some sort.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: dark1x on August 19, 2008, 08:38:38 AM
Everyday Shooter is worth like 25 cents, or maybe not even that, especially because the graphics and the music suck. Mak and Blow should just get with each other and stick to making SNES ROMs for ZSNES.

Super Stardust HD is easily worth $1, though. A single George Washington bill is all an Asteroids clone on steroids deserves.

Quest for Booty might be worth the $15 they're charging for it, hopefully there'll be a demo of some sort.
Thank god opinions like yours have no impact on the games released for these services.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of fool me once shame on me, fool me twice buy a PS3
Post by: demi on August 19, 2008, 09:15:29 AM
(http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/5441/13284703yo9.jpg)

And with this, I confirm my place as BEST GAMER IN ALL OF EVILBORE and everywhere else
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: demi on August 19, 2008, 09:58:54 AM
Only 6 people have 200... if you want, I'll let you guys smell my nuts

http://www.mygamercard.net/leaderboard.php?gt=&g=565%2B&z=&c=&x=97&y=18
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: Brehvolution on August 19, 2008, 10:29:34 AM
Fucking A Demi. I wish I had your time AND determination.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: demi on August 19, 2008, 10:47:16 AM
btw, I did it with Analog stick... JustinP wishes he had these skills

Guess that happens when you play a Sony
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: Vrolokus on August 19, 2008, 01:51:59 PM
Seriously demi: pretty impressive.  Congratulations.

So now the question is: will you ever play it again?
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: demi on August 19, 2008, 01:53:01 PM
Nope
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: MCD on August 19, 2008, 02:01:29 PM
:lol
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: Vrolokus on August 20, 2008, 10:22:07 PM
Two of the other guys at Joystick Division and I did a roundtable on BCR, which went up today, in case anyone's interested.  I needed to whip up some art for it, so I decided to do the many faces of Rad Spencer, a'la Mighty Muggs:

(http://www.joystickdivision.com/radsb_2-thumb.jpg)

There's bigger versions at the site if you'd want one.

www.JoystickDivision.com (http://www.JoystickDivision.com)
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: Positive Touch on August 20, 2008, 10:31:34 PM
two questions:

1) how do i get the "pacifist pride" achievement?  grenades?

2)demi, i know you beat all 56 challenges, but did you beat the secret challenges that you could unlock in hidden areas in the main game?
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: Vrolokus on August 20, 2008, 10:34:28 PM
1) how do i get the "pacifist pride" achievement?  grenades?

Yes, and swinging into people with the iron boots works too.  Just no shooting.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: demi on August 20, 2008, 10:35:30 PM
two questions:

1) how do i get the "pacifist pride" achievement?  grenades?

2)demi, i know you beat all 56 challenges, but did you beat the secret challenges that you could unlock in hidden areas in the main game?

1) just dont use your gun, you can use anything else. do Area 05

2) no, i could do them but they werent part of the achievement so i dont give a fuck
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: Positive Touch on August 20, 2008, 10:36:54 PM
fuckin pathetic.  i knew you weren't shit bitch
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: demi on August 20, 2008, 10:40:04 PM
hey shithead, do you have Elite Commando

then stfu you aids riddled fuck
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: Positive Touch on August 20, 2008, 10:42:51 PM
don't mean shit when you didn't go all the way
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: demi on August 20, 2008, 10:48:12 PM
i did go all the way, clearly

see my pic - 100%

where's yours unfinished LOSER
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: Positive Touch on August 20, 2008, 10:49:21 PM
uhh going to need a few weeks for that
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 20, 2008, 11:09:32 PM
This thread is getting hall of famed. I loved seein everyone dogpile on Demi only for him to make you fuks eat crow
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 20, 2008, 11:33:39 PM
No its staying for a while, im just earmarking it
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 21, 2008, 01:43:12 PM
Would anyone be willing to gameshare this with me? I have the following to offer

1942
Calling All Cars
Gripshift
Pixeljunk Eden
Ratchet (when it comes out, if it allows it)

You can't gameshare something you already gameshared off someone else right? If you can then I have a lot more.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 21, 2008, 01:56:34 PM
Want to do it right now?

-create a new account on your PS3, call it whatever you want
-log into the PS store using the other person's account info (they've presumably deleted their credit card info and changed their password for you)
-go into their recent downloads or whatever and download whatever you'd like from it
-any games are playable across all usernames on the PS3. Just don't delete the dummy username you created.
-switch your password back when you're done
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 21, 2008, 01:59:08 PM
OK, cool. I'll be back from work myself at 930 EST, what about you?

also, you wanna do it by PM or AIM?
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: The Sceneman on August 21, 2008, 03:53:05 PM
still havent bought this, got a points card and everything but I went to the movies last night and didnt get home till late.

Im quite pumped
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: The Sceneman on August 21, 2008, 03:54:09 PM
also, Is super hard harder than Stranglehold on Hard boiled?
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: demi on August 21, 2008, 03:57:23 PM
Harder
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: Positive Touch on August 21, 2008, 05:43:05 PM
god damn this game is fucking ace
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: The Sceneman on August 22, 2008, 09:08:14 PM
sweet mother of god this game fucking owns, just what I felt like playing

I WANT TO BE AN ELITE COMMANDO
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: cool breeze on August 22, 2008, 10:52:31 PM
The last 'A' level is ridiculous.  After you do those first three rooms, that section outside is too hard.  I can barely see what is actually happening.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: Vrolokus on August 23, 2008, 01:28:15 AM
The last 'A' level is ridiculous.  After you do those first three rooms, that section outside is too hard.  I can barely see what is actually happening.

It's infuriating.  I remember back in the day there were two areas that always pissed me off, no matter how good I got: The Docks (6) and the Furnace (11?).  BCR has now added a new one to my list, the Phasing Platforms of Stroke-Inducing Rage 'A' level.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: demi on August 23, 2008, 01:32:35 AM
The outside area is cake if you watch a video. Also you can do the trick where you can stand between two platforms and not fall
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: cool breeze on August 23, 2008, 01:07:33 PM
I watched a video and it is still hard.  I can barely see since all the colors are the same.  I had this same problem with the boss of area 11.

It doesn't help that when you fail, you need to deal with that whole bullshit of going through those three stages again.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: cool breeze on August 23, 2008, 02:01:13 PM
Oh man, they really milked the
spoiler (click to show/hide)
head explosion in this
[close]

With the exception of some rooms/enemies that were the same color, I think that this game is amazing.  Best downloadable game so far this year, if not ever (on consoles and that can't be bought at a store)
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: The Sceneman on August 25, 2008, 02:29:14 AM
I love the art in this game

:bow retro character aesthetics :bow2
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: JustinP on August 25, 2008, 02:31:51 AM
i played hours of multiplayer versus last night.  with more than 2 people, this game is a complete blast. 
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: permutated on August 25, 2008, 02:32:41 AM
just wanted to get this set up

ps. Braid sucks

Update: Bionic Commando also sucks

Your opinion is useless, I think.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 25, 2008, 02:33:48 AM
Braid does suck tho, but mostly cause its creepy considering the theme. All that nice music and art, and its about the a-bomb. Thats messed up. I listen to the music and its like god damn, im creeped the fuck out.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: demi on August 25, 2008, 02:34:09 AM
Sounds like we got another jealous one here
/me polishes his Elite Commando badge that you dont have
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: MrAngryFace on August 25, 2008, 02:37:32 AM
lol
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: Enl on August 25, 2008, 11:59:50 PM
So the game apparently sold very well at about 130,000 total downloads. They also released some codes to some user created rooms. Personally I'm not touching the challenges until I beat the game on Super Hard (on the last stage of Hard right now).


Quote
Aaron Sedillo's Room (Capcom's chosen winner)

Xbox 360: Right, Down, Left, Up, Left Bumper, Right Bumper, Y, Y, X, X, Start
PS3: Right, Down, Left, Up, L1, R1, Triangle, Triangle, Square, Square, Start

We've also hooked up (hah!) with several different websites and games publications to offer their own exclusive rooms too - and whereas I could beat Aaron's room without too much fuss, these have the difficulty level pumped all the way up to "Devil May Cry 3". Downloadable content? Bah! This is how we used to give away extra content back in the day! Be warned: you'll have to re-input the code when you restart your system, and these work in English language only.

Eurogamer Challenge Room

Xbox 360: Down, Up, Down, Up, Left, Left Bumper, X, Left Bumper, X, Y, Start
PS3: Down, Up, Down, Up, Left, L1, Square, L1, Square, Triangle, Start

GamesRadar Challenge Room

Xbox 360: Right Bumper, Y, X, X, Up, Down, Left Bumper, Left Bumper, Up, Down, Start
PS3: R1, Triangle, Square, Square, Up, Down, L1, L1, Up, Down, Start

IGN Challenge Room

Xbox 360: Up, Down, Y, X, X, Y, Down, Up, Left Bumper, Left Bumper, Start
PS3: Up, Down, Triangle, Square, Square, Triangle, Down, Up, L1, L1, Start
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: demi on August 26, 2008, 12:00:58 AM
there's a major nelson room too i think. i never bothered trying those either.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: Positive Touch on August 26, 2008, 12:52:14 AM
they didn't seem to be anything special
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: DJ_Tet on August 26, 2008, 11:03:47 PM
I hate this game.

I love it but I hate it, makes me want to throw my max controller.

My respect for demi's gaming ability has grown exponentially.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: Positive Touch on August 26, 2008, 11:36:23 PM
fuck this helicoptor bullshit
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: The Sceneman on August 27, 2008, 06:07:37 AM
Im actually thinking this could be goty 2008

"pipipipipi"
"What did you call me?!"
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: The Sceneman on August 30, 2008, 12:49:10 AM
well Ive got all the easy achievements now.

Tried Super Hard and got raped. Gotta keep practicin
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: Positive Touch on August 30, 2008, 01:27:30 AM
still got about 1/3 of the challenges, the database one i'll get it once i smoke that fucking jet shit), then it's on to super hard.  this is totally goty so far for me. sooo nice
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: The Sceneman on August 30, 2008, 01:39:41 AM
yeah Ive done the 1st 41 challenges, so need the Challenge achievement, haxorz and elite commando. Ive got all the others (the easy ones  :'()

I was proabably exaggerating when I said goty, but its still pretty awesome.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: demi on August 30, 2008, 01:40:21 AM
you can get Haxorz on Super Hard
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: The Sceneman on August 30, 2008, 01:42:37 AM
I might have to play something else for a couple of days, I think Im done with BC for today. Fuck I wish Infinite Undiscovery was out
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: The Sceneman on August 31, 2008, 01:30:08 AM
managed to pass 05 on super hard and got the bazooka. should hopefully make the going a little easier. I hear some of the later bosses are hell on this difficulty
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: The Sceneman on August 31, 2008, 01:55:51 AM
sweet Im tied for #1 in New Zealand in this game lol. Good incentive to keep going
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: The Sceneman on August 31, 2008, 07:03:17 AM
8 challenges to go!

managed to beat area01 and get the grenade upgrades from area02. Trying to beat area04 but the tunnel before the boss is pretty tough, fucken knife dudes need two rockets to dick. Super Hard is pretty addicitng, brings back memories of the Master System/Mega Drive heyday for me. Its a good feeling getting a bit further each time and knowing the levels inside out
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: Vrolokus on September 01, 2008, 05:36:02 AM
Part two of my BC chars re-imagined as Mighty Muggs...

(http://www.joystickdivision.com/groedersjpg-thumb.jpg)

If you want big versions or variations, I have them up at the site.

Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: The Sceneman on September 02, 2008, 06:35:35 AM
kicked the shithead general in area04 to death, got me the plasma rifle. Now Im just trying to do area6. The barrels damage you now :( can you shoot them out of the way or some shit?

only have challenges 55 and 56 to go.

Im getting there...

also demi do you know: (copied my post from another forum)

"Just wondering, Im going thorugh on super hard and making sure I hack every terminal, you know how once you been in a comm room, when you die you start again outside it? basically what Im trying to ask is: you start level. Get to comm room, sucessfully hack, leave, keep going for a bit, die, respawn back at the comm room, then complete the stage. Does the game still consider the hack as sucessfully completed?"

Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: Positive Touch on September 02, 2008, 02:33:57 PM
you don't have to redo a hack if you die during a level.  i don't know if you have to redo it if you die and leave the level, however.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: demi on September 02, 2008, 02:36:48 PM
You can shoot barrells with the Rocket Launcher

And you just have to hack it once
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: The Sceneman on September 03, 2008, 01:47:07 AM
sweet thx 4 the tips doods.

And I like your characters vrolokus  :-* good work. Im actually thinking about buying the BC gamer picture pack for 100pts  :-\ The M Bison with his mouth open is too awesome. I AM PART OF THE PROBLEM

(http://tiles.xbox.com/tiles/Kb/P3/1Gdsb2JhbC9GCgUABh4AFwNdL3RpbGUvMC8yODAwMgAAAAAAAAD72LMJ.jpg)

its gonna look so good on my gamercard, Im sick of doom guy

Challenge 55 sucks major balls
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: The Sceneman on September 03, 2008, 06:56:46 AM
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK YES

finally did room 56, after 2 and half hours and almost throwing my controller 10 times.

final time 85.892

got the achievement and never touching these awful challenges again

bought the picture pack to celebrate and now I can focus on the much less frustrating task of beating the game on super hard
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: The Sceneman on September 05, 2008, 10:13:25 AM
(http://tiles.xbox.com/tiles/Kb/P3/1Gdsb2JhbC9GCgUABh4AFwNdL3RpbGUvMC8yODAwMgAAAAAAAAD72LMJ.jpg)
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: The Sceneman on September 09, 2008, 04:35:20 AM
yeahhh did areas06 and 03 on super hard. this is awesome
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: The Sceneman on September 11, 2008, 07:24:47 AM
up to the albatross now on super hard... almost there
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: The Sceneman on September 13, 2008, 09:54:18 PM
fucking Hitler can suck a dick on super hard, its quite hard to judge wether the rockets are high or low
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: demi on September 13, 2008, 10:30:23 PM
press Back and use the transparent menu to tell
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and not you)
Post by: The Sceneman on September 14, 2008, 08:09:05 PM
I FUCKING DID IT 200/200

* Scenester jerks off all over his Elite Commando Badge
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and I guess Scenester)
Post by: The Sceneman on September 14, 2008, 08:37:41 PM
awesome, thanks for the title edit demi  :D Im still not as good as you though as It took me a few weeks to get it  :(



Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and I guess Scenester)
Post by: demi on September 14, 2008, 08:40:45 PM
With Elite Commando you have taken your place as ONE of the top gamers of the evilbore community
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and I guess Scenester)
Post by: The Sceneman on September 14, 2008, 08:42:31 PM
yeah, Elite Commando is no picnic, thats for sure. One of the hardest gaming feats Ive accomplished.

Im just stoked I can finally put this game down
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and I guess Scenester)
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on September 15, 2008, 02:43:41 AM
Holy shit, no kidding, Super Hard is super hard. On Area 8 right now.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and I guess Scenester)
Post by: The Sceneman on September 15, 2008, 03:50:13 AM
I think the Area that gave me the most trouble was 06. The other ones arent too bad if you pick up all the weapon upgrades. And the last boss is a bitch
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and I guess Scenester)
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on September 15, 2008, 10:04:37 PM
Awesum, stuck on Area 10. What a b.
Title: Re: The Bionic Commando thread of Demi the Elite Commando (and I guess Scenester)
Post by: The Sceneman on September 16, 2008, 12:01:11 AM
Area 10 wasnt so bad, as long as you have the upgraded plasma rifle for the boss. Blow up all the sprinkler turrets with the vector cannon