What do you mean limited compatibility? All current XB1 games, and BC games, will work on Scarlet/Series X
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:thinking
what do you get for sacrificing people to it?Microsoft is going to sacrifice studios to it. ;)
https://twitter.com/GameSpot/status/1205310693936975872this one was the lie last gen >:(
some info in here
- footprint is approx as wide as an x1 controller and as tall as three
- supposedly just as quiet as x1x
- controller has a share button ::)
- x1 controllers work on the new console, xsx controllers also work on x1 and pc
- has an NVMe SSD
- can use instant resume on multiple games
Just put Windows on the damn thing.
The Xbox One console runs on an operating system that includes the Windows 10 core, although initially it included the Windows 8 core at the Xbox One's release.
Xbox 360, Xbox One and Xbox One X were already awful names, might as well keep with tradition.
Microsoft should put Tetsuya Nomura in charge of naming all products for a while for a nice refreshing change-upXbox Versus so they can look equal to PSV
Looks more like a subwoofer than a console...That's a wine cooler breh
so unless "series" is being horribly misused, this seems like it'll be a family of systems, or maybe fxmilyLockhart, etc.
Xbox 360, Xbox One and Xbox One X were already awful names, might as well keep with tradition.
Absolute bottom-tier naming convention, on par with Nintendo thinking it was a good idea to follow up the Wii with the Wii U.
Just put Windows on the damn thing.
what do you get for sacrificing people to it?
The naming is going to confuse people - Grandma gonna swoop up that Xbox One X because it was $100 cheaper for Christmas then get tossed down the stairs
Grandma or the Xbox?
Lulz this is pretty bad.
Count on Sony to make something sleek that ends up sounding like a jet engine in a year. 8)
I don’t think I can fit this thing in my tv stand though. Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to make a console which looks like it can‘t be placed horizontally.FACT CHECK:
We also designed Xbox Series X to support both vertical and horizontal orientation. It’s bold and unique, very much like our fans around the world and the team of collaborators and innovators who built it.
Lulz this is pretty bad.
Nah.
Xbox One's reveal and strategy as a console almost killed Xbox in the span of a year. It is not debatable that Xbox One initially was PS3 reveal bad if not worse. It took years and tons of resources for Xbox One to be salvaged.
This new Xbox will be a powerful box to play games on. The PS5 will be a powerful box to play games on. It'll come down to software preferences, software features, and whether or not someone wants VR with their console (PS5 being the only choice).
It's really fucking nice that Xbox X is gonna be a dedicated gaming console. It's not a cable box/Kinect or motion control/ride the wave box.
One of the things we’re most proud of with Xbox Series X is the promise we’re delivering to our fans who have and continue to invest with Xbox. Thanks to backward compatibility, you can expect your gaming legacy, thousands of your favorite games across four generations of gaming, all your Xbox One gaming accessories, and industry-leading services like Xbox Game Pass to be available when you power on your Xbox Series X in Holiday 2020.
One Console, Four Generations of GamingQuote from: https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2019/12/12/microsoft-unveils-xbox-series-x/One of the things we’re most proud of with Xbox Series X is the promise we’re delivering to our fans who have and continue to invest with Xbox. Thanks to backward compatibility, you can expect your gaming legacy, thousands of your favorite games across four generations of gaming, all your Xbox One gaming accessories, and industry-leading services like Xbox Game Pass to be available when you power on your Xbox Series X in Holiday 2020.
Funny how this is how I envisioned PS4 back in the day (2012 - 2013) - that it will allow to play PS1, 2 and 3 games with BC.
The Dream is dead. Thanks Sony.
Lulz this is pretty bad.
Nah.
Xbox One's reveal and strategy as a console almost killed Xbox in the span of a year. It is not debatable that Xbox One initially was PS3 reveal bad if not worse. It took years and tons of resources for Xbox One to be salvaged.
This new Xbox will be a powerful box to play games on. The PS5 will be a powerful box to play games on. It'll come down to software preferences, software features, and whether or not someone wants VR with their console (PS5 being the only choice).
It's really fucking nice that Xbox X is gonna be a dedicated gaming console. It's not a cable box/Kinect or motion control/ride the wave box.
I just meant naming wise. It's Wii U tier. Xstans are going to be working overtime next gen explaining why it's a good name. ::)
Console wise, it's gotta have something to get back the people who went PS4 this gen. Not sure if it has any special sauce there, looks like another plastic box with an X on it. I suppose if you care about POWAH it's attractive tho.
QuoteOne of the things we’re most proud of with Xbox Series X is the promise we’re delivering to our fans who have and continue to invest with Xbox. Thanks to backward compatibility, you can expect your gaming legacy, thousands of your favorite games across four generations of gaming, all your Xbox One gaming accessories, and industry-leading services like Xbox Game Pass to be available when you power on your Xbox Series X in Holiday 2020.
This strategy is also very Wii U esque. :thinking
I think it’s dope. Will move x to bedroom or trade towards, who knows. Wonder if I can just plug in the external and have access to all of that hassle-free.
If I didn’t already have an X and game pass forever I’d probably do the monthly/service option that includes upgrade to new one next year.
Curious to see how it shakes out, they are winning over a lot of enthusiasts with How they’ve handled game pass but not sure if it’s translating to mainstream tbh.
I don’t think I can fit this thing in my tv stand though. Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to make a console which looks like it can‘t be placed horizontally.
But it can be placed horizontally.. they are showing off how it can be vertical unlike the Xbox One.
Just seems like a great service.
I mean it sure is but who says Sony will not do anything similiar for PS5?
I just meant naming wise. It's Wii U tier. Xstans are going to be working overtime next gen explaining why it's a good name. ::)
Just put Windows on the damn thing.
No fucking lie, if MS and Valve got together, put Windows/Steam on it, fucking consoles would be over. Full stop. Give us that "one console" future already Jesus Christ.
Gamepass does nothing for me. Yeah I’ve been able to easily try things out that maybe I wouldn’t have but right now it’s meh to me. Mostly because MS first party is weak and I’m sorry I wasn’t going to wait to play Devil May Cry 5. Even then most third parties don’t seem to be excited to put thier new games on there day 1. I’m sure not waiting to play Resident Evil 3, Cyperpunk, and so on.
But I mean I played Yakuza 0 years ago. I played those three Yakuza games when they came out because I’m a fan and wouldn’t want to wait till they came to Game Pass.Gamepass does nothing for me. Yeah I’ve been able to easily try things out that maybe I wouldn’t have but right now it’s meh to me. Mostly because MS first party is weak and I’m sorry I wasn’t going to wait to play Devil May Cry 5. Even then most third parties don’t seem to be excited to put thier new games on there day 1. I’m sure not waiting to play Resident Evil 3, Cyperpunk, and so on.
I mean, the Yakuza series had been like one of two reasons why I've wanted a PS4. Game Pass is gonna get...three Yakuza games I think? My point being not that I don't need a PS4 now, more of Microsoft's reach and ambition for Game Pass will only grow.
It's also effectively changed "wait for a sale" to "wait until it's on game pass". Buying games day 1 is basically reserved for AAAA games at this point.
But I mean I played Yakuza 0 years ago. I played those three Yakuza games when they came out because I’m a fan and wouldn’t want to wait till they came to Game Pass.Gamepass does nothing for me. Yeah I’ve been able to easily try things out that maybe I wouldn’t have but right now it’s meh to me. Mostly because MS first party is weak and I’m sorry I wasn’t going to wait to play Devil May Cry 5. Even then most third parties don’t seem to be excited to put thier new games on there day 1. I’m sure not waiting to play Resident Evil 3, Cyperpunk, and so on.
I mean, the Yakuza series had been like one of two reasons why I've wanted a PS4. Game Pass is gonna get...three Yakuza games I think? My point being not that I don't need a PS4 now, more of Microsoft's reach and ambition for Game Pass will only grow.
It's also effectively changed "wait for a sale" to "wait until it's on game pass". Buying games day 1 is basically reserved for AAAA games at this point.
But I don’t think you’re example is some great show of reach an ambition. These are games Sega has made most of thier money on and was no doubt probably fine with MS paying for it. They probably are paying for the port like they are with Phantasy Star. Call me when Yakuza 8 comes day 1 on Xbox, PS5, and Game Pass.
So that’s my point. Game Pass is cool I guess, but I’m not seeing third parties feel the desire to put their titles on there in a first run way.
Blurays are still a thing and iirc even CDs. There will be hardware and physical media as long as there is people whoA lot can change in 20 years.don't want to get fucked over by companiespay up for it, which will be for a long time still.
Blurays are still a thing and iirc even CDs. There will be hardware and physical media as long as there is people whoA lot can change in 20 years.don't want to get fucked over by companiespay up for it, which will be for a long time still.
My guess is physical media will just become line vynil, very high end collector stuff, and the "box with a disc, without even a manual" will just go away eventually.
Also, the idea of not getting fucked over if you buy a disc is silly, since 80% of games nowadays require a patch on Day 1 to even function decently, nevermind various forms of online integration and DRM.
Which ofcourse is even truer for genres like GAAS.
Blurays are still a thing and iirc even CDs. There will be hardware and physical media as long as there is people whoA lot can change in 20 years.don't want to get fucked over by companiespay up for it, which will be for a long time still.
My guess is physical media will just become line vynil, very high end collector stuff, and the "box with a disc, without even a manual" will just go away eventually.
Also, the idea of not getting fucked over if you buy a disc is silly, since 80% of games nowadays require a patch on Day 1 to even function decently, nevermind various forms of online integration and DRM.
Which ofcourse is even truer for genres like GAAS.
A couple years ago I realized I didn’t care about “owning” media. Like... at all. A/v media and game subs all day. The only shit I buy are kids movies cuz the lil fukks can’t wait for Netflix etc >:(
I like the thicc box tbh. Not sure if it will .. ahem fit tho :-[
There's too many people that'll stick to physical media for it to go away. Maybe in 30 years when most people grew up never having to own a piece of media it'll happen but it's not changing that soon IMO.
I buy digital, but only in rare cases do I pay full retail or launch prices. I got burned a couple of times buying games on Steam at full retail a few years ago, before refunds existed. I'll still opt for discs if I can because a trash game on disc can be sold or traded in, whereas a trash digital game is forever in your library reminding you of the time you handed over $60 and let someone shit in your palm. I have a special Shit/Bin category on Steam just for that stuff.
A couple years ago I realized I didn’t care about “owning” media. Like... at all. A/v media and game subs all day. The only shit I buy are kids movies cuz the lil fukks can’t wait for Netflix etc >:(
I like the thicc box tbh. Not sure if it will .. ahem fit tho :-[
I also move a lot and got real tired of unpacking boxes of movies. Now I have an appletv and a cord.A couple years ago I realized I didn’t care about “owning” media. Like... at all. A/v media and game subs all day. The only shit I buy are kids movies cuz the lil fukks can’t wait for Netflix etc >:(
I like the thicc box tbh. Not sure if it will .. ahem fit tho :-[
I'm in this camp 100%.
There's a lot to lose in life. If the civilized world falls, I'm going to be worried about my access to pussy, physical and digital, a lot more than videogames.
Stadia poised to capitalize on this new games-as-a-service economy :awesome
if sony and m$ actually push devs to target 8k compatibility with this shit i hope they both diaf and nintendo win
8K is never going to be common for consumers.
8K is never going to be common for consumers.
"640K is more memory than anyone will ever need on a computer" -Bill Gates
It took almost 20 years for 1080p to get into 75% of house holds, expecting people to do 4K and then 8K when there is still a significant chunk of the US using CRTs still is absurd. DVDs still outsell bluray and people jumped more from DVD to streaming than bluray. For 8K you're going to need a new absurdly expensive TV, a new disc player, start your collection all over AGAIN, and if you're going to stream hope you don't live in most places that still have data caps.
I mean I live in the Chicago metropolitan area and have done years of plumbing and now medical home set-ups. So I've been in plenty of homes and yeah CRTs are still widely used. Mostly old people, so they are out of the target demo here. But also I've seen plenty of average people have thier shitty cheap LCDs playing regular SD NBC or FOX or whatever. Or streaming Friends or the office and not giving a shit what resolution its in. You have Americans going crazy on Black Friday for the Hitatachi whatever shit tv that may be in 4k, but will probably have a old Roku device plugged into that that negates whatever 4k the tv has. lets not even get started on HDR. Dolby Vision what? HDR10 who cares?It took almost 20 years for 1080p to get into 75% of house holds, expecting people to do 4K and then 8K when there is still a significant chunk of the US using CRTs still is absurd. DVDs still outsell bluray and people jumped more from DVD to streaming than bluray. For 8K you're going to need a new absurdly expensive TV, a new disc player, start your collection all over AGAIN, and if you're going to stream hope you don't live in most places that still have data caps.
Where in the fuck are there still large groups of people with CRTs in the US? Do you live in the most meth infested part of Montana? What bearing do old meth rats have on common patterns in technology and retail?
It took almost 20 years for 1080p to get into 75% of house holds, expecting people to do 4K and then 8K when there is still a significant chunk of the US using CRTs still is absurd. DVDs still outsell bluray and people jumped more from DVD to streaming than bluray. For 8K you're going to need a new absurdly expensive TV, a new disc player, start your collection all over AGAIN, and if you're going to stream hope you don't live in most places that still have data caps.
I'd bet heavily on 8k being an eventual flop. it is completely pointless from a scientific standpoint, increases costs of film and game dev significantly and is a terrible decision for consumers.
:goldbergIt took almost 20 years for 1080p to get into 75% of house holds, expecting people to do 4K and then 8K when there is still a significant chunk of the US using CRTs still is absurd. DVDs still outsell bluray and people jumped more from DVD to streaming than bluray. For 8K you're going to need a new absurdly expensive TV, a new disc player, start your collection all over AGAIN, and if you're going to stream hope you don't live in most places that still have data caps.I'd bet heavily on 8k being an eventual flop. it is completely pointless from a scientific standpoint, increases costs of film and game dev significantly and is a terrible decision for consumers.
I get what you guys are saying, but it's going to happen at some point. Sure, it's gonna be a while I'm sure, but it's not going to be a "flop" and eventually will replace 4K and the like.
4k is still for freak nerds only; don't delude yourselves
I think we’ve made enough strides in resolution for now. I’d like to see other aspects of graphical fidelity go up before we move on from 4K.
I think we’ve made enough strides in resolution for now. I’d like to see other aspects of graphical fidelity go up before we move on from 4K.
8K for movies could be worth it though.
Well I didn’t say digital wasn’t overtaking or anything. My point was that physical hasn’t actually gone anywhere. If anything it seems more games have gotten a physical release then they would have last gen. I don’t buy digital and haven’t missed out on anything.
It is pretty weird how 4k hardware has far outpaced 4k content. Other than video games, cable/satellite TV providers have very meager 4k content if at all.
It is pretty weird how 4k hardware has far outpaced 4k content. Other than video games, cable/satellite TV providers have very meager 4k content if at all.
Even most “HD” cable offerings are still just 720p/1080i so it’s really no wonder.
"The name we're carrying forward to the next generation is simply Xbox," a Microsoft representative told Business Insider, "And at The Game Awards you saw that name come to life through the Xbox Series X.":dizzy
Like the first Xbox generation, the next one is simply named "Xbox."
It's a basic rebranding, but a meaningful one that could help to simplify the Xbox line for interested consumers. It also clarifies Microsoft's intention with its console line.
"Similar to what fans have seen with previous generations, the name 'Xbox Series X' allows room for additional consoles in the future," the Microsoft rep told us.
From business insider(https://media1.tenor.com/images/43e386a8554c41febfdeb814f70eed53/tenor.gif)Quote"The name we're carrying forward to the next generation is simply Xbox," a Microsoft representative told Business Insider, "And at The Game Awards you saw that name come to life through the Xbox Series X.":dizzy
Like the first Xbox generation, the next one is simply named "Xbox."
It's a basic rebranding, but a meaningful one that could help to simplify the Xbox line for interested consumers. It also clarifies Microsoft's intention with its console line.
"Similar to what fans have seen with previous generations, the name 'Xbox Series X' allows room for additional consoles in the future," the Microsoft rep told us.
Why would anyone think this multiple models and name idea is good. It has never worked.They're looking at the iPad
Sony really lucked out with the simple number naming scheme.
It is pretty weird how 4k hardware has far outpaced 4k content. Other than video games, cable/satellite TV providers have very meager 4k content if at all.
Movies are recorded in 8K generally these days, that's literally where resolution is going to bottom out. The return on investment beyond that is so small. Progress will be made but I could see 8K lasting 30 years...Storage plus speeds.
The HDTV standard that was accepted in the U.S. (and followed by many other countries) doesn't support 1080p. Only 720p and 1080i, as a result the broadcasters don't broadcast over that. The cable networks unless otherwise specified run off the same base hardware because they know the TVs can at least receive that.Even most “HD” cable offerings are still just 720p/1080i so it’s really no wonder.
To get Directv 4k service, a tech has to come to the house and put a new nose on the sat. dish and you need a special box on the 4k TV. Then they tell you that you need a reliable 22MB/sec internet bandwidth. That makes you wonder if the channel is even over the air. You get 1 full time channel for content and 2 for special events and it can be weeks in between events. At least it's free because it isn't worth paying any extra for.
Some people are acting like the Wii U would have sold like hotcakes if it had a different name and completely forget that it was a shitty device nobody wanted.
From business insiderQuote"The name we're carrying forward to the next generation is simply Xbox," a Microsoft representative told Business Insider, "And at The Game Awards you saw that name come to life through the Xbox Series X.":dizzy
Like the first Xbox generation, the next one is simply named "Xbox."
It's a basic rebranding, but a meaningful one that could help to simplify the Xbox line for interested consumers. It also clarifies Microsoft's intention with its console line.
"Similar to what fans have seen with previous generations, the name 'Xbox Series X' allows room for additional consoles in the future," the Microsoft rep told us.
From business insiderQuote"The name we're carrying forward to the next generation is simply Xbox," a Microsoft representative told Business Insider, "And at The Game Awards you saw that name come to life through the Xbox Series X.":dizzy
Like the first Xbox generation, the next one is simply named "Xbox."
It's a basic rebranding, but a meaningful one that could help to simplify the Xbox line for interested consumers. It also clarifies Microsoft's intention with its console line.
"Similar to what fans have seen with previous generations, the name 'Xbox Series X' allows room for additional consoles in the future," the Microsoft rep told us.
Xbox (2001)
Xbox 360
Xbox One
Xbox (2020)
MS was always big on the Hollywoodification of gaming, so not much surprise they're adopting the same shitty naming scheme as a film franchise that's had one too many reboots.
From business insiderQuote"The name we're carrying forward to the next generation is simply Xbox," a Microsoft representative told Business Insider, "And at The Game Awards you saw that name come to life through the Xbox Series X.":dizzy
Like the first Xbox generation, the next one is simply named "Xbox."
It's a basic rebranding, but a meaningful one that could help to simplify the Xbox line for interested consumers. It also clarifies Microsoft's intention with its console line.
"Similar to what fans have seen with previous generations, the name 'Xbox Series X' allows room for additional consoles in the future," the Microsoft rep told us.
Xbox (2001)
Xbox 360
Xbox One
Xbox (2020)
MS was always big on the Hollywoodification of gaming, so not much surprise they're adopting the same shitty naming scheme as a film franchise that's had one too many reboots.
Eh, that's Sony you're talking about. The Last of Us, Uncharted, and God of War, all incredibly cinematic games. ResetEra boys pride themselves on being fans of cinematic single player games, that's Sony's schtick.
Sony has also produced some of the worst movies in the past decade,so there's that too
From business insiderQuote"The name we're carrying forward to the next generation is simply Xbox," a Microsoft representative told Business Insider, "And at The Game Awards you saw that name come to life through the Xbox Series X.":dizzy
Like the first Xbox generation, the next one is simply named "Xbox."
It's a basic rebranding, but a meaningful one that could help to simplify the Xbox line for interested consumers. It also clarifies Microsoft's intention with its console line.
"Similar to what fans have seen with previous generations, the name 'Xbox Series X' allows room for additional consoles in the future," the Microsoft rep told us.
Xbox (2001)
Xbox 360
Xbox One
Xbox (2020)
MS was always big on the Hollywoodification of gaming, so not much surprise they're adopting the same shitty naming scheme as a film franchise that's had one too many reboots.
Eh, that's Sony you're talking about. The Last of Us, Uncharted, and God of War, all incredibly cinematic games. ResetEra boys pride themselves on being fans of cinematic single player games, that's Sony's schtick.
Sony has also produced some of the worst movies in the past decade,so there's that too
I think you completely missed the point.
Tasty was comparing the naming convention to modern movie sequels where they eventually re-release a movie named the same as the original.
Rambo, Halloween, Final Destination, etc.
But I'm confused what else they've done to "Hollywoodify" gaming.
MS brought hard drives and coherent online systems to consoles, and basically helped popularize the console FPS (obviously GoldenEye gets tons of credit, but the space was rather stagnant after that and attempts to bring PC FPS to consoles all sucked). I think their presence in general is responsible for a lot of advancements in the space that might not have happened.
They just really fucked up focusing on Kinect, barely focusing on building game studios and being rather tone def about the DRM stuff.
However that DRM stuff sounded awesome to me; I hate how physical purchases give you basically half the software license a digital purchase does for instance. Being able to buy disks and still do stuff like family sharing and the "primary console" trick to do 2 players at once would have been great.
I don't really give a shit about whether they were "dude bro" or "try hard" or whatever weird insults people throw at the brand; the tech and games were great for a long time and I couldn't care less about the marketing. People thinking Sony gave a shit about them because of their marketing around the PS4 was fucking hilarious though. Sony the king of all DRM across all digital products lol
The rumors brewing on :reeeee is that MS was supposedly shopping for studios in Poland. If they managed to snag CDPR, ... That'd be playing with my emotions, smokey.
The rumors brewing on :reeeee is that MS was supposedly shopping for studios in Poland. If they managed to snag CDPR, ... That'd be playing with my emotions, smokey.Who do you think paid Grimes to emerge out of a BOX at the VGA's?
The rumors brewing on :reeeee is that MS was supposedly shopping for studios in Poland. If they managed to snag CDPR, ... That'd be playing with my emotions, smokey.Who do you think paid Grimes to emerge out of a BOX at the VGA's?
If Microsoft can get back to their early 360 glory in terms of exclusives then they’ll give Sony a run for their money imo. The hardware and services are already there.
I’m pretty involved with the Xbox community on RE
I’m pretty involved with the Xbox community on RE
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Man i dont know what to do, I wanted to build a new pc next fall because my 2500k and 970 are getting beyond potato, plus I want to try VR. But it sounds like even a top of the line rig built now may not be equal to the XSX? Like how badly inflated is pc hardware if it can all be put in a 500 dollar(?) box.Either there's some caveat with this machine or it launches at 599 or even 699.
Next year I wanted a Ryzen 4000 series cpu, 32 gigs of ram and whatever 700 would buy me in a 3d card. :( I mean im guessing that pc will be more powerful than an XSX but man I was spoilt by the weak hardware of consoles this gen, this is like back to when the 360 launched and it was pretty :hyper for 6 months or so.
(https://i.imgur.com/Jd86pyY.png?1)https://www.thurrott.com/games/xbox/227520/xbox-series-x-ports-revealed
As it stands right now, the series X features, on the back of the hardware, two USB-A ports (of the SuperSpeed variety), ethernet, a single HDMI port, optical audio, and a power connection. There is also another port on the back that may be used for debugging but there wasn’t an agreement on the nature of its functionality. The image at the top of this post shows a basic outline of how those ports appear on the actual hardware.
Also, on the back of the device are openings for air intake as well; all of the ports are located on the lower half of the hardware. Keep in mind, there is also a USB-A port on the front of the console but for now, it looks like Microsoft is sticking with the older USB style port.
I guess Jet Set Radio Future was second party?
That game was for weebs. Keep that shit on Nintendo and Sony. I want to feeling of being a man only games made in the USA can deliver.
i like kinect cause i can say "xbox on" and it turns on the console, tv, and soundbar. :'( also dance games
What kind of nerd
How do you guys feel about no true next gen exclusives? Matt Booty says all MS games will release on XO for the next 2 years.I hardly can believe Microsoft is going to tie another console generation to CPU's that were already shit 10 years ago.
How do you guys feel about no true next gen exclusives? Matt Booty says all MS games will release on XO for the next 2 years.
I mean that made up PS5 first party line up already sounds better then whatever MS did this gen.
And buying b tier developers like Ninja Theory and whoever made that 60s Drug England game don’t inspire confidence.
Core gamers who want to see what a God of War 2 would look like made purely for PS5?
I mean when you scale down for the lowest system, it's going to effect things beyond just graphics and performance.
And core gamers are simply people who buy video games beyond Madden or just Call if Duty.
Most of that is true if the CPU's of the Xbox One and PS4 weren't complete shit and they are. The Jaguar CPU when it came out was just awful this gen has been fairly limited by these shit CPU's.How do you guys feel about no true next gen exclusives? Matt Booty says all MS games will release on XO for the next 2 years.
Console war fanboy logic: "PlayStation is gonna have true next gen games!"
Business logic: "We wanna sell as much first party software possible"
The main difference between this gen and the next will be rendering resolution, load times, and maybe performance. Like, those technical things or issues will be the big ones addressed.
Scope, scale, game design innovation, every game developer on the planet has had to play around with their own ambition versus budget constraints and time constraints. More RAM won't alter that significantly, a stronger GPU won't alter that significantly, an SSD won't alter that significantly.
The better question is, has Microsoft acquired enough talent to make good games outright. Nintendo developed Breath of the Wild for two pieces of hardware that are quite weaker than a base Xbone or PS4. But design decisions make that game something special.
Microsoft does have a taller hill to climb when it comes to ball swinging because of this, but it doesn't have negative connotation in reality for good games.
:yeshrug
Like, if Sony unveils Killzone 5, a Resistance Fall of Man reboot, a fart sniff of God of War 2, an Infamous sequel, and Demon Souls Remake, and they're all PS5 exclusive....
:snore
How do you guys feel about no true next gen exclusives? Matt Booty says all MS games will release on XO for the next 2 years.
Not sure how this is any different to PC developers targeting a wide range of specs from low to high end, they've been doing that for years. "This only runs on i9 and 2080ti" would put you out of business pdq
I will Day One PS5 *only if* it has full, disc based PS4 BC as in I put inside:Ooh, if PS5 has the same type of BC as Series X where literally everything that ran on the last gen machine runs on the new one and they don't inexplicably remove it later like they did with PS2 games on PS3 that would be a huge tilt in their favor for me. There's some 4 only stuff that I'd not mind fucking with but what's there isn't quite enough to make me cough up 350-400 for a Pro.
- RDR2
- HZD
- TW3
And it works no questions asked.
If it doesn't work then I will wait for FROM SOFTWARE PS5 Exclusive (not found on PC/ Xbox).
This fucking thing is going to be $700People made similar arguments for ps4 with the rumored 8gb gddr5.
MS has been bleeding so much cash with Xbox, I don't think they give a fuck. Wouldn't be shocked if they go for 450-500 and just take the big L.
Bleeding what cash? I think people think GamePass is some big cash bleed.. and by their own words, it isn't.. and logically it isn't either. Remember that XBL Gold is practically pure profit for them, and even if you got GamePass for 3 years for $1 you still had to buy Gold for that... GamePass right now has eaten into profits IMO, not caused them to bleed cash.
They aren't paying nearly as much for games to be on GamePass as people think they are IMO.
MS has been bleeding so much cash with Xbox, I don't think they give a fuck. Wouldn't be shocked if they go for 450-500 and just take the big L.
Bleeding what cash? I think people think GamePass is some big cash bleed.. and by their own words, it isn't.. and logically it isn't either. Remember that XBL Gold is practically pure profit for them, and even if you got GamePass for 3 years for $1 you still had to buy Gold for that... GamePass right now has eaten into profits IMO, not caused them to bleed cash.
They aren't paying nearly as much for games to be on GamePass as people think they are IMO.
Both the OG Xbox and the Bone were complete disasters. The 360 did OK although that was most likely not a great financial success, especially with the RRoD fiasco.
Back when they were publishing numbers, without obfuscating them by being rolled into other divisions, it didn't look pretty at all.
And ever since they stopped (early Bone years), it's been nothing but massive drops in % revenues every quarter.
You have to be quite delusional if you think the Xbox adventure made them money overall :neogaf
No one said they have overall made money on the project, they are probably billions in the red.
Is this post supposed to do anything but make you look like a bored Sony pony that has no games to play?
consoles are in just such a weird position rn or I'm old
Haha a 3.8 cpu. I thought this was supposed to be the most op console ever. :dogesounds like its a ryzen 3700 (non x) to me. that's pretty solid and definitely current gen pc tech. boost seems to be throttled a bit, probably for heat purposes.
does that DF video have an explanation for why 6GB of the RAM is clocked slower? or which set of RAM the OS reserves on?https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/fjy1sw/why_xbox_series_xs_dumb_106gb_memory/
Halo Infinite
Cyberpunk 2077
Assassin’s Creed Valhalla
Destiny 2
DiRT 5
Scarlet Nexus
Chorus
Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2
Yakuza: Like a Dragon
The Ascent
Call of the Sea
Gears 5
Second Extinction
Metal: Hellslinger
As this list grows in the weeks and months leading up to the Xbox Series X launch, we’ll keep it updated to reflect any additions.
So Xbox released some information on Smart Delivery.What is the difference between these? Is "no smart delivery" to say that the game *is* potentially optimized for next gen, but you gotta pay the update?
https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/06/15/what-is-smart-delivery-xbox-series-x/ (https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/06/15/what-is-smart-delivery-xbox-series-x/)
These games will be Xbox Series X Optimized (although not all (including CP2077)) at launch.
Everything else will be backwards compatible.QuoteHalo Infinite
Cyberpunk 2077
Assassin’s Creed Valhalla
Destiny 2
DiRT 5
Scarlet Nexus
Chorus
Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2
Yakuza: Like a Dragon
The Ascent
Call of the Sea
Gears 5
Second Extinction
Metal: Hellslinger
So we basically get 4 'tiers' of Xbox games.
- No Smart Delivery
- Backwards compatible
- Xbox Series X 'optimized'
- Actual next gen games (like Resident Evil 8 )
Games that will be optimized at launch for next gen equals....a shit lineup. Are you saying the launch is going to be shitty? That isn't the entire library of launch games or games this fall :lolAlso launch lineups are ALWAYS shit.
Even says in the linkQuoteAs this list grows in the weeks and months leading up to the Xbox Series X launch, we’ll keep it updated to reflect any additions.
So Xbox released some information on Smart Delivery.What is the difference between these? Is "no smart delivery" to say that the game *is* potentially optimized for next gen, but you gotta pay the update?
https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/06/15/what-is-smart-delivery-xbox-series-x/ (https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/06/15/what-is-smart-delivery-xbox-series-x/)
These games will be Xbox Series X Optimized (although not all (including CP2077)) at launch.
Everything else will be backwards compatible.QuoteHalo Infinite
Cyberpunk 2077
Assassin’s Creed Valhalla
Destiny 2
DiRT 5
Scarlet Nexus
Chorus
Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2
Yakuza: Like a Dragon
The Ascent
Call of the Sea
Gears 5
Second Extinction
Metal: Hellslinger
So we basically get 4 'tiers' of Xbox games.
- No Smart Delivery
- Backwards compatible
- Xbox Series X 'optimized'
- Actual next gen games (like Resident Evil 8 )
Lastly, some new and existing Xbox One titles will be Optimizing their games after the Xbox Series X launches. For example, if you buy Cyberpunk 2077 when it launches on September 17, you’ll be set to explore Night City on Xbox One. If you pick up Xbox Series X at launch this holiday, you can play it there too in compatibility mode picking up exactly where you left off. Then, when CD PROJEKT RED delivers an Xbox Series X Optimized version of Cyberpunk 2077, you’ll automatically get upgraded once it’s available at no additional cost
The One X has a unique hardware set, it's a third model effectively as it has its own CPU/GPU/RAM not shared with either the other One models or the Series X. It's easier to maintain the S line, then create a new "middle tier" model that's a clocked down or removed parts Series X but is the same hardware set inside.
Xbone S: Jaguar CPU, GCN2 GPU, DDR3 RAM
Xbone X: Jaguar Evolved CPU, GCN4 GPU, GDDR5 RAM
Series X: Zen2 CPU, RDNA2 GPU, GDDR6 RAM
Presumably the Lockhart would also be Zen2/RDNA2/GDDR6 but just with "less" of everything.
https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1286038538769838081 (https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1286038538769838081)
:thinking
Meanwhile in Europe: Please take one, we‘ll almost pay you to take one.I dunno, Playstation's a couple of PC ports away from becoming pointless, for me. :thinking
Meanwhile in Europe: Please take one, we‘ll almost pay you to take one.I dunno, Playstation's a couple of PC ports away from becoming pointless, for me. :thinking
At least Microsoft's got my attention on PC with Gamepass. :doge
Thats awesome but my Steam version?https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1286322336954638337
It looks fine. It's running at 60fps. What are people even expecting from next gen.
This show has been terrible so far.
GamePass + X is the hotness
Plus BC
Just need a price boys
All this did was make me consider a pc
Looks fucking lame what is that rare shit even about?I've been super intrigued since they first showed it last year, but the fact they've shown it twice and we still don't know what the fuck you actually do is very bad. If it's some kind of exploration/survival co-op game, cool. Just tell us.
State of Decay 3 (no gameplay).
Forza (no gameplay).
Everwild (no gameplay).
Avowed (no gameplay).
As Dusk Falls (no gameplay).
Hellblade 2 (no gameplay, not even a trailer).
Stalker 2 (no gameplay).
Darktide (no gameplay).
Fable (no gameplay)
State of Decay 3 (no gameplay).
Forza (no gameplay).
Everwild (no gameplay).
Avowed (no gameplay).
As Dusk Falls (no gameplay).
Hellblade 2 (no gameplay, not even a trailer).
Stalker 2 (no gameplay).
Darktide (no gameplay).
Fable (no gameplay)
Who needs gameplay when you can have ... an Iceland documentary? :confused
(https://i.imgur.com/Q0Pw81F.png)
:whatisthis
I'd genuinely pay the launch price of the new Xbox to take a dirty Covid shit into MMaRsu's mouth.
The hell was this? I mean maybe the PS5 video didn't feel like a huge leap, but at least I got out with like 5 or 6 games to look forward to. This de-hyped me for surefire hits like Gamepass, because what would I even play on there.
Even when MS had a really good e3, like 2018, all their biggest announcements were 3rd party.
They should have combined this with the May show, cut A LOT of the fat and had much more gameplay.
I'd genuinely pay the launch price of the new Xbox to take a dirty Covid shit into MMaRsu's mouth.
What did I do now? I didn't make a shitty looking Halo game sorry bud
I'd genuinely pay the launch price of the new Xbox to take a dirty Covid shit into MMaRsu's mouth.
What did I do now? I didn't make a shitty looking Halo game sorry bud
You're the loudest, most whiny cocksucker in multiple threads at this point. If you were a bigger bitch, your asshole could fit a PS5 with no lube.
I’ll take the movie games that have more gameplay then MS’s continuation of tired franchises, MS own attempts at “movie” games by b level Sony cast off developers, and “look at me I’m progressive by having crafting whimsy” games.
I'm just more shocked that the world looked so damn empty, like Halo:CE levels.
What the fuck have they been doing for 5 years?
And fucking fire Stinkles already.
Seems like DQXI looks works on the Xbox than it did on the switch.
I was as impressed with Halo Infinite as I was Gears 5 - both equally drab and boring and summarizes - "yep, that's a videogame"
I'll be playing DQXI and my older BC games instead
While waiting for 60fps Destiny
People who don't like shooters in a nutshell.
"OMG, how original... a shooter...
.. I'll be busy playing something original.. like the ELEVENTH game in this JRPG series, whose gameplay has barely changed since the late 90s."
edit: OK i just read your Destiny comment.. lol.. I look dumb but gonna leave it anyways.
GamePass + X is the hotnessPSO2 TWO got me thinking about jumping in earlier than I thought I would. :-*
Plus BC
Just need a price boys
GamePass + X is the hotnessPSO2 TWO got me thinking about jumping in earlier than I thought I would. :-*
Plus BC
Just need a price boys
Just look at this in fullscreen.
https://content.halocdn.com/media/Default/community/InfiniteCoverArt/halo-infinite-2020_ascension_demo_campaign_10_4k-fafc3967fd0444c590a54835104fa01d.png (https://content.halocdn.com/media/Default/community/InfiniteCoverArt/halo-infinite-2020_ascension_demo_campaign_10_4k-fafc3967fd0444c590a54835104fa01d.png)
Just look at this in fullscreen.
https://content.halocdn.com/media/Default/community/InfiniteCoverArt/halo-infinite-2020_ascension_demo_campaign_10_4k-fafc3967fd0444c590a54835104fa01d.png (https://content.halocdn.com/media/Default/community/InfiniteCoverArt/halo-infinite-2020_ascension_demo_campaign_10_4k-fafc3967fd0444c590a54835104fa01d.png)
wtf is going on with that? I don’t give a shit about graphics but this just looks wrong.
Probably 2 dropships landed or something?
Or just 1.. I think 8 enemies can drop at once.
(https://i.imgur.com/Q0Pw81F.png)
:whatisthis
The good news is that 343 have legitimate technical wizards and the hardware is very capable.
This open world shit is exactly the shot in the arm this franchise needed
People loved and still remember that Halo 2 E3 Gameplay demo. Because it showed an exciting and well renderd alien invasion of earth.
yeah cant wait to disable the three towers, such interesting mission designI mean that’s my fear that it will be that. I mean I expect some of that and yeah this showing was whatever.
This open world shit is exactly the shot in the arm this franchise needed
Ryse was such garbage lol
I respect my time.
But you'd have to pay me good money to play a game like Ryse. Like maybe $1000
Tradition I guess. I don’t follow the phone market at all, but doesn’t Apple tell the price of their newest IPhone when they announce it?Yeah usually about 2 weeks before they release.
The console market is also driven by preorders, bei it software or hardware. Retailers not taking preorders so close to launch is unprecedented.
I’m talking about how it looks, not FPS or resolution.
is halo 4k 60fps?
It's 60fps. If it's 4k remains to be seen.
pls name one open world fps that isn't trashi play skyrim like a fps :trumps
pls name one open world fps that isn't trash
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stalker is more of a survival horror though. the open world given meaning due to the difficulty and dopamine rush of successfully traversing it.Until you loot a few dead Stalkers, anyway. The only reason you ever run short on ammo in those games are the sheer number of enemies, not because resources are scarce.
likely just means the max it supports is 4k. even if it's dynamic res, it'll be upscaling to 4k if that's what your output is set to.There's the lower powered and cheaper Lockhart version of the hardware as well, which I expect will target 1080p.
likely just means the max it supports is 4k. even if it's dynamic res, it'll be upscaling to 4k if that's what your output is set to.
So, not native 4k.
Again, what the fuck does up to 4k mean?It means in the 2nd half of the gen games will run at 1080p/1440p with some being 4k30.
Devs are moving away from native 4K in general.
Devs are moving away from native 4K in general.
i really hope so.
i know generally pc gamers i know are buying into 1440p / 3440x1440 ultra wide monitors instead of 4k because 1080 -> 1440 is a significant upgrade whereas 1440 -> 2160 is barely discernible and is incredibly taxing on your card.
but my 4k tv doe :'(
Whats a good 144hz wide monitor(is wide worth it?).
is sprinting some kind of controversy in the halo world lol? tbh the movement of the games i've played (1,2,3, only multiplayer) felt really slow and 'bouncy'.
The future is gonna be things like Sony’s checkerboard rendering, AI based techniques like DLSS and others.
Rendering the entire frame native 4K is a waste but you can do all kinds of things to come close and outside of examining screenshots or sitting too close to a monitor or something you’d hardly notice the difference, whereas you’ll definitely notice the effects that can be enabled or the frame rate increase using those techniques.
I’d never expect a lot of support on a console. The expectation will be 16x9 for pretty much all content/ui.Whats a good 144hz wide monitor(is wide worth it?).
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/best/ultrawide-gaming
Ultra-wide is absolutely worth it for PC, but the jury's still out on whether it ends up being widely-used for Series X.
I’d never expect a lot of support on a console. The expectation will be 16x9 for pretty much all content/ui.Whats a good 144hz wide monitor(is wide worth it?).
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/best/ultrawide-gaming
Ultra-wide is absolutely worth it for PC, but the jury's still out on whether it ends up being widely-used for Series X.
I wish I had that 4chan /v/ clip where they timed it.
The good news is that 343 have legitimate technical wizards and the hardware is very capable.
:girlaff
"Technical Wizards."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rYrr-Fybik
:girlaffThis open world shit is exactly the shot in the arm this franchise needed
TBH, those are kind of the worst levels in Halo. But in any case, the multiplayer and PC/engine performance and numerous bugs are what I'm worried about than "I CAN'T FINISH THE FIGHT!!!!!"-Post Halo 3 lore-campaignisms.
is sprinting some kind of controversy in the halo world lol? tbh the movement of the games i've played (1,2,3, only multiplayer) felt really slow and 'bouncy'.
RTX is another check box feature they're touting for this console that is really just a gimmick for now. Sure, if you reduce complexity everywhere else it looks pretty cool, but I don't want all my games looking like a high res, well lit versions of games from the 90s.It's sublime for reflections, because the alternatives all suck. Cubemaps are fine at a glance, but work intensive. Screenspace relflections are so distracting I'd rather not have any. Thankfully the console RT seems to be powerful enough for those, since Ratchet and Clanks has RT reflections.
DLSS = booty implants on IG models.It's more like make-up or a light photoshop filter. The results with DLSS 2.0 are great. You get more apparent detail than native, free AA and it runs better on top of all this. It's magical.
(https://i.ibb.co/hCKPQ6n/Screenshot-20200724-092532-Chrome.jpg)
It seems it kind of has RT reflections. At least very limited ones. Once items are no longer static, they are no longer reflected. Its in the DF video.Debris from destroyed objects, that is. Every other dynamic element is reflected iirc.
Its still much better than any of the other methods you provided, though. Its still really the only Next Gen game we've seen.
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/372121005889552384/735914420093321296/1595523976415.png?width=960&height=511)
tfw HALO is a platform now
This shit is in development hell for the past 5 years, everything is horribly outdated and we can't just start over. Honestly it looks worse than The Conduit
343 :girlaff
And no splitscreen on pc
And no splitscreen on pc
Wait really :lol
Ew.. who the fuck wants to split screen on anything in 2020? lol
Get 2 PCs you poor.
https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/1286653437220999168 (https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/1286653437220999168)
"Listen.. we'll crunch this shit, remember Perfect Dark Zero?"
:picard
Something tells me this won't launch with multiplayer.
Split screen is magical though, when you have kids. :trumps
how the fuck is 343i such a disaster
MCC fuck-up also somewhat killed the franchise
or is it just MS being shit
QuoteBut while it’s easy to get carried away about the prospect of playing Halo Infinite, it’s worth taking a minute to think about the enormous work put into this playable preview of Halo Infinite.
While this is just a section of the final game, it took a herculean effort to make sure this little corner of our Ringworld was polished and pretty enough for its premiere!
The art, lighting, design, environment, graphics, production and engineering teams involved in carving out and curating this little slice, are nervous and excited to show people a glimpse of what we’re building.
breh is this real?QuoteBut while it’s easy to get carried away about the prospect of playing Halo Infinite, it’s worth taking a minute to think about the enormous work put into this playable preview of Halo Infinite.
While this is just a section of the final game, it took a herculean effort to make sure this little corner of our Ringworld was polished and pretty enough for its premiere!
The art, lighting, design, environment, graphics, production and engineering teams involved in carving out and curating this little slice, are nervous and excited to show people a glimpse of what we’re building.
In simplistic terms, it means putting a lot of pretty pixels on the screen very quickly. When you see the realistic characters, the beautiful landscape around you, and shafts of light streaming through the fog – those are the things that my team and I partner up with the artists to accomplish.
https://www.343industries.com/news/articles/employee-spotlight-ani-shastry (https://www.343industries.com/news/articles/employee-spotlight-ani-shastry)gaiz, vidya r hard. pls understand
how the fuck is 343i such a disaster
MCC fuck-up also somewhat killed the franchise
or is it just MS being shit
MS has been running studios / IPs into the ground for years. It's not exactly a surprise that Halo went to shit too.
(https://i.imgur.com/xN96Old.png) (https://onlysp.escapistmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/frankoconnor.jpg)
:thinking
Yeah DF were not impressed ha ha.
crossfirex does look fuckin sick.Remedy sure dodged a bullet
https://youtu.be/uYYuwAsZl58
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qfx9eoB-88The difference is stark but it also has a lot to do with how video games are made these days.
I mean seriously, you can see the problem with 343i in so many ways.
The fucking hideous weapons and enemies, not to mention the overall game design and thinking about Halo
Imagine posting on an internet gaming forum in 2020. you gotta be dumb or over 30spoiler (click to show/hide)jk[close]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qfx9eoB-88The difference is stark but it also has a lot to do with how video games are made these days.
I mean seriously, you can see the problem with 343i in so many ways.
The fucking hideous weapons and enemies, not to mention the overall game design and thinking about Halo
You either need a very strong creative lead, who is able to protect and guide his vision of the game or you need perhaps even a subpar team that works really well together.
Both are not as common as you may think. Bungie had a great team of some of the best in the industry, which is extremely rare.
Studio leads spend more time communicating and planning the work for the different art, environment sound etc. teams than actually working on the game.
And only at the tail end can they really see how everything comes together. Pulling in a lot of talent also isn't a guarantee for success if the chemistry isn't there.
In fact it can work against you in case there is a competition of sorts.
Ubisoft is one of the few studios which has a very fine tuned process for big productions such as these but their 'template' is showing its age.
Other studios like CD Projekt Red, Nintendo, Kojima Productions, Remedy etc. rely heavily on their strong creative leads or teamwork.
Nintendo basically hands their creative leads such as Sakurai, all control.
Microsoft over the years collected people who can hit production deadlines and salvage projects (like Rod Fergusson) but they don't have very talented creative leads.
Or people in those roles long enough to really create a vision. Sony's set-up works decently too, combining their creative talents with a few tech support groups.
Microsoft is trying to address this problem by either acquiring sub-par teams (Ninja Theory) or strong creatives (Double Fine / The Initiative) but it'll take a while before results.
Now Microsoft has once again called in Rod to do the thing he always does, which is to turn a troubled AAA+ project heading towards a 4/10 into an 8/10 or 9/10 by making the right cuts.
Microsoft is still feeling the pain from gutting their first party teams and infrastructure over a decade ago.
These are the projects in the open that we know about, just imagine the stuff they couldn't salvage over the years.
It also doesn't help that they turned HALO into this corporate thing with brand directors, franchise directors etc., which is a joke considering where the franchise stands at this point.
HALO needs to be a good FPS, first and foremost. All this 'platform' bullshit won't last a year if the player base isn't there.
Rod's not there anymore. He left to work on Diablo.
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Halo was like, a good game, but people who are HALO FANATICS blow my mind, game was never really all that
Imagine actually caring one way or another about Halo in 2020 brehs, you gotta be dumb or Yuropeen
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdurdlVUwAAPyqW?format=jpg&name=large)Someone needs to make a Rustled Jimmies mash-up with that face.
We're bringing the highest fidelity experience that we've ever created. We're able to do more than 10 times the processing power per pixel that we were able to do in Halo 5, which just allows us to create this experience that's unlike anything that we've had in Halo before. In Halo Infinite we've really harnessed a lot of advanced rendering techniques, but also the immense power of the Xbox Series X.
We also upgraded our audio engine to create a new acoustic system and leverage a lot of extra processing power and streaming power with the Xbox Series X to be able to really surround the player in a much more realistic audio experience.
Looking at the map screen,It's the "open world hit" but I'm hearing it might not even be fully open world?
It seems that during the press showings of the same demo that was shown earlier, multiple journalists asked if the world was open and the devs kept dodging the question. So yeah, I'm guessing its not.
Is this a joke. This is some grade-A secret sauce blast processing bullshit :doge
Apparently "the cloud" does make AI and physics better in some games like Halo 5 and Crackdown, but as an opt-in Xbone-exclusive-feature, it's mostly completely unused outside the bigger first-party games.
Still, MS actually did kinda deliver on it, more than I expected before I did some research just now. Lowered expectations? :P
Apparently "the cloud" does make AI and physics better in some games like Halo 5 and Crackdown, but as an opt-in Xbone-exclusive-feature, it's mostly completely unused outside the bigger first-party games.
Still, MS actually did kinda deliver on it, more than I expected before I did some research just now. Lowered expectations? :P
It also has something to do with how the generation progressed.
Early on everyone bet on CPU heavy physics, AI's and simulations. Something the AMD Jaguar was ill equipped to deliver as shown by 1st gen titles such as Assassins Creed Unity and Shadow of Mordor so using cloud processing to make up for the lack of a better CPU made sense. In fact, the first Destiny pretty much 'tapped out' the Xbox One. Which was sort of a shock about 1 year into its life cycle. However as the generation went on AI and other CPU heavy stuff is not what developers focused on.
In fact most of the CPU focused stuff that seemed impressive like Mass Effect Andromeda's procedural planet systems and Crackdown's destruction was scrapped.
The focus of third parties was less on AI and physics improvements and more focused on scale, mainly through open world games and scalability by having games run on all platforms, sometimes even on mobile with the same assets.
First party for Microsoft became about the 'indie' titles like Ori and Cuphead and Sony circumvented the lack of better CPU's by using scripted scenario's as they always had. By the time the X and Pro came along the focus had shifted towards performance.
The goal being to get the most FPS with the highest visual fidelity and not to have destructible environments or complex AI. Noticeable in how Gears of War 2 on Xbox 360 has more physics simulations and destruction than Gears 5 does.
Only at the tail end of the generation, did developers again tip their toes in more advanced physics with games like CONTROL and to a lesser extend Anthem. Which ended with the expected poor results in terms of performance , even on the X and Pro. The Jaguar is simply not up to the task. If anything the Zen 2 chips in the PS5 and Xbox Series S/X will finally allow developers to really improve physics, simulations and AI. But not if a game has to run on Xbox One also.
So no moving branches or interactive grass(features found in Crysis on Switch) in Halo Infinite because it was conceived as a current gen game with CPU limitations in mind.
The AI also looks like your basic 'spawn in waves within a radius and attack the player' type.
As it stands Halo Infinite is an aged current gen game with a new coat of paint. Which is fine if they would've been honest about what the product is. It doesn't look any worse than a lot of other current gen games. The character models except for that hilariously poor close-up look about on-par with EA's latest Star Wars game. But they're currently bullshitting everyone about what this game actually is which is why the backlash to what they showed is quite severe.
Apparently "the cloud" does make AI and physics better in some games like Halo 5 and Crackdown, but as an opt-in Xbone-exclusive-feature, it's mostly completely unused outside the bigger first-party games.
Still, MS actually did kinda deliver on it, more than I expected before I did some research just now. Lowered expectations? :P
By that logic, Halo3 was basically open world, since it had massive areas connected by corridor sections?It'll have a massive field with an invisible fence around it. :teehee
If this one doesn't have massive fields like in the original tease, it'll be a big disappointment in that sense.
Halo was like, a good game, but people who are HALO FANATICS blow my mind, game was never really all that
Imagine actually caring one way or another about Halo in 2020 brehs, you gotta be dumb or Yuropeen
Maybe open world is going to suck for Halo. I mean the WartHog is always exciting to use because you're not always in big free form levels that have it. So you use it because it's neat, hell in the older ones you'd use it till you couldn't. Often trying to cheese it into the levels.Being open world doesn't negate level design. :yeshrug
Using it to drive to the 3rd turret target for the 6th mission of it is'nt going to be that exciting.
The sharing option on Imgur provides a BBCode. You can also use your browser's context menu to get the actual URL.
I wish Bloober Team made a single game I liked, but I thought all of em were complete trash. Maybe this time though!!??
https://old.reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/hyau4f/xbox_game_pass_value_is_unreal/
:whew
All of those games are a real ways away.
Will sit in my library right next to Crackdown 3, Project Spark, Scalebound and Phantom Dust! :dogehttps://old.reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/hyau4f/xbox_game_pass_value_is_unreal/
:whew
All of those games are a real ways away.
And all coming to GamePass Day 1 for me to play, on top of the existing library :whew
https://twitter.com/Dominos_UK/status/1287751610865680386
:kermit
https://twitter.com/Dominos_UK/status/1287751610865680386
:kermit
Brave of them to throw insults considering what actual Dominos pizzas looks like..That's why to them, pixelation is a next gen feature.
(jk I <3 you)
https://twitter.com/RSeriesxbox/status/1288104739851313154(https://www.abload.de/img/paradise_cernynijt1.gif)
The console wars are over
:bolo
https://twitter.com/RSeriesxbox/status/1288104739851313154
The console wars are over
:bolo
They released the GOTY this very year, on PC. 8)https://twitter.com/RSeriesxbox/status/1288104739851313154
The console wars are over
:bolo
"We do most of our development on PC"
Haha good one GabeN
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Actually, Gay-Ben has been losing weight. So... :doge
didn't know gaben was hiding out here. wonder where his bunker is
In the same demo he also has some kind of revolver.
Nintex going full Biden.
Also in the blog post, 343 spoke about the brand-new MK50 "Sidekick" and CQS45 "Bulldog" weapons. The Sidekick is the new pistol that is "lightning fast to draw and fire," and most closely resembles the Magnum from Halo 2, 343 said. The Bulldog, meanwhile, is a pump-action shotgun that has less damage as a tradeoff for a faster rate of fire. 343 also confirmed that the classic Magnum and the Tactical Shotgun from earlier Halo games won't appear in Halo Infinite.
More weapons will come to Halo Infinite over time, the developer added.
No shottys confirmed :tocry
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/halo-infinite-dev-talks-graphics-loot-boxes-and-wh/1100-6480387/ (https://www.gamespot.com/articles/halo-infinite-dev-talks-graphics-loot-boxes-and-wh/1100-6480387/)Guys, have you watched the demo or not? :dogeQuoteAlso in the blog post, 343 spoke about the brand-new MK50 "Sidekick" and CQS45 "Bulldog" weapons. The Sidekick is the new pistol that is "lightning fast to draw and fire," and most closely resembles the Magnum from Halo 2, 343 said. The Bulldog, meanwhile, is a pump-action shotgun that has less damage as a tradeoff for a faster rate of fire. 343 also confirmed that the classic Magnum and the Tactical Shotgun from earlier Halo games won't appear in Halo Infinite.
More weapons will come to Halo Infinite over time, the developer added.
It seems like they talked about the classic shotguns and magnums. Why can't I trust random headlines on the internet anymore?
Why are you people engaging with nintex do you really hate yourselves that much(https://i.imgur.com/u9dTQsn.png)
I don't think MS is as interested as Sony to sell the box itself, so they're probably not super worried.They don't want to delay the manufacturing and then sit on supply. At least not without Sony's price out there I don't think.
I suppose, but man. My mantra is becoming "Get Rid of Aaron Greenberg". The dude is a disaster. And they should probably dump Spencer too.
I don't think I've seen a console manufacturer kill their momentum as consistently as they have. Tracing it back to that DF reveal video where they looked at the box itself, to now, months away from launch and all we have is a Craig meme and constant
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/c6ffb14c59d7066294df27307d5d5d07/tumblr_ne31qbCFjx1tfbtrwo1_400.gif)
They know the first million or so will be bought by the hardcore fans that want to play the best version of Assassin's Creed, COD 2020 or Cyberpunk 2077 anyway.They don't want to delay the manufacturing and then sit on supply. At least not without Sony's price out there I don't think.
I suppose, but man. My mantra is becoming "Get Rid of Aaron Greenberg". The dude is a disaster. And they should probably dump Spencer too.
I don't think I've seen a console manufacturer kill their momentum as consistently as they have. Tracing it back to that DF reveal video where they looked at the box itself, to now, months away from launch and all we have is a Craig meme and constant
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/c6ffb14c59d7066294df27307d5d5d07/tumblr_ne31qbCFjx1tfbtrwo1_400.gif)
Sony DOES have their own service, it's Playstation Now, but it's kind of shit.
They know they can't outsell Sony. They tried to for 3 generations now and failed miserably. So I get why they'd want another approach and say "Oh actually Google" is our real competition.
Cool, GamePass is awesome. But for how long will it be? If we just keep getting Indie Games, months old third party games and shit tier first party stuff, that may get old very quick. That's also assuming Sony won't have their own service. And if that happens, what does MS have?
The only thing that matters is price. Among the 4K consoles, they're way too close in tech specs to affect anything. Crosspost but looking at the Xbox One X vs Xbox One S as an example:The price is an interesting subject.spoiler (click to show/hide)
- 4X difference in GPU power
- More/faster RAM
- Same CPU
- Same HDD
- different casing/cooling/power supply
One was $300, the other was $500. Unless the manufacturing process for GPU/RAM chips has changed significantly in the last five years, I would expect a ~$200 price difference again. Add on the rumored BOM cost of the XSX and PS5 being around $500, then it's reasonable that the 4K consoles will retail for around $500 and the XSS will be around $300.
Also, I would expect the PS5DE to be about the same price as the regular PS5 just like what happened to the Xbox One SAD. Even if it costs $50 less to produce, retailers will mark up digital consoles more because they won't make any future sales on software. Actually, a lot of the time the regular Xbox One S was cheaper than the digital version because of that. Maybe they'll pack in the new Spider-Man game as a download code since it should be something most people are willing to play.[close]
I'd argue that the launch line up and game pass is far more appealing on the xbox than what Sony is offering but the big elephant in the room is that 6-12 months from now, we'll be in the middle of a huge recession and people will definitely be value shopping. The marketing and corporate communications type stuff doesn't make an impression on anyone outside of the hardcore while the idea of financing an XSS with game pass ultimate for 24 months at $25/month would definitely sell well.
How'd you get it? Pics?
I got an Xbox Series X/S controller. One of like the 3 people in the world who have one. AMAAre the triggers as squishy as the Xbox One X controllers or more clicky?
Its literally just an xbox controller, whats the big deal
Really only have two questions:
1) Do the bumpers feel the same? Xbone and even 360 had very clicky ones not very satisfying to press (they had little to no run) and they broke all the time; really the one gripe i have with Xbox controllers.
2) Nice slender hands, do you play the piano? If not, you should think about it.
1. Comparing it to my Elite controller, they’re actually a tad bit clickier IMO. Just compared them now. Could be because my Elite controller has seen some use. You definitely would not like them if you didn’t like the OG triggers.Oh i'm fine with the triggers (in fact, i think they're better than the DS4's) my problem is with the bumpers, so RB/LB, or R1/L1, to be clear, which on Dualshock are usually better and last longer.
1. Comparing it to my Elite controller, they’re actually a tad bit clickier IMO. Just compared them now. Could be because my Elite controller has seen some use. You definitely would not like them if you didn’t like the OG triggers.Oh i'm fine with the triggers (in fact, i think they're better than the DS4's) my problem is with the bumpers, so RB/LB, or R1/L1, to be clear, which on Dualshock are usually better and last longer.
I've had 6 or 7 Xbox gamepads between 360 and Xbone, and in all of them, the bumpers were always the first part to fail.
BUT WHAT'S THE PRICE??
We can confirm the Xbox Series S is $299, and the Series X is $499.
Xbox Series S and Xbox Series X will launch on November 10, 2020.
I don't get it. So from launch they're launching a weakened version of Series X?
So developers for next-gen games have to make 3 SKUs? Xbox Series X, PS5 and Series S? And at $299 it'll be like, what, a Switch version this gen equivalent of PS5/Series X games?
I don't get it. So from launch they're launching a weakened version of Series X?
So developers for next-gen games have to make 3 SKUs? Xbox Series X, PS5 and Series S? And at $299 it'll be like, what, a Switch version this gen equivalent of PS5/Series X games?
If the CPU lines up on S and X, it's no big deal. I think the thing just has way less fill rate but I could be wrong.
They wouldn't win the market, they'd be the one with the weaker console, again.I don't get it. So from launch they're launching a weakened version of Series X?
So developers for next-gen games have to make 3 SKUs? Xbox Series X, PS5 and Series S? And at $299 it'll be like, what, a Switch version this gen equivalent of PS5/Series X games?
If the CPU lines up on S and X, it's no big deal. I think the thing just has way less fill rate but I could be wrong.
Just seems weird that you can have like a $299 system that handles next-gen games. Like why even bother making the series X. Just release a $299 console and win the market and release the series X two years later as the Pro version upgrade.
The price difference is pretty huge too. Like wasn't the PS4 Pro just $100 more than the regular PS4? At $200 price difference seems like a huge difference in tech power, I just don't see how this doesn't cause fuckery in developing next-gen games for a machine that is gonna be a lot further behind than the other two. With Switch they could get away with just not making Switch versions of games that couldn't run on Switch. But Series S is advertising as being able to play every.single Series X game.
I guess we'll see how next-gen plays out.
Series S is powerful than all current gen consoles by far.
It’s a next gen console that targets 1080p, instead of 4K.
Same Zen 2 CPU as XSX and PS5.
Same RDNA 2 GPU architecture as XSX and PS5.
Same GDDR6 RAM as XSX and PS5.
Same NVMe SSD as XSX.
It’s expected to have similar raytracing features, machine learning/AI capabilities as XSX as well.
No disc drive? :stahpNo disc drive is weird too. Consumers on a budget would likely be more interested in physical bargain bin prices.
Could have been an ace back compat / general media machine
No disc drive? :stahpNo disc drive is weird too. Consumers on a budget would likely be more interested in physical bargain bin prices.
Could have been an ace back compat / general media machine
Although GamePass offsets some of that.
I guess for $300 + GamePass you get a lot of 'next-gen' value if you are still stuck on 1080p.
But the only way I can see this work is if they start pulling Xbox One S from the shelves ASAP as well or clear them out at $99.
It all depends on Sony too. If Sony manages to get the PS5 Digital out there for $399 the XSX doesn't make much sense.
If Sony's offerings start at $499 there is a gap there.
https://mobile.twitter.com/_h0x0d_/status/1303252607759130624This looks like a more appealing product than the Xbox Series X they have been pushing for the past 12 months ever did :mindblown :notlikethis
No disc drive makes perfect sense in 2020
Do phones /ipads have disc drives?
Going after Nintendo! No wonder why Nintex is so miffed.They just handed Nintendo a gift by opening the door to ports by not locking 'next-gen' behind the 9TF PS5 barrier.
This is basically Microsoft giving up on the next-gen performance crown while simultaneously promoting the most powerful console on the market.
Games made exclusively for PS5 will have a higher baseline spec.
On the flip side, they are giving Nintendo a big opening for a Switch 2 in 2021/2022 with comparable power at that price point thanks to Nvidia's AI magic.
They just handed Nintendo a gift by opening the door to ports by not locking 'next-gen' behind the 9TF PS5 barrier.It's a thing called heat.
If Nintendo wants, Nvidia can easily get them up to parity with their next-switch if they include some DLSS tricks.
Switch 2
Handheld mode: 720p - 1080p (no ray-tracing / no DLSS)
Docked mode (embedded Tensor cores): 1080p / 4k (DLSS/Ray-tracing)
Wonder what the storage on the Series S will be512GB SSD
How do you attach Xbox, 360, and Xbone disc games you to your account using the SS? I'm guessing you don't, but could there be another solution? Besides using an Xbone, that is.
I actually... like the look of the Series S? Of course it's in white so it's by default disgusting. WTF console manufacturers, stop with this white bullshit. HARAM.
I agree with INTERNET VIDEO GAME PERSONALITY ALANAH PEARCE that the big news is the 2 year All Access financing options. MS seems to be going in hard on those and tbh will probably start touting those numbers as opposed to "consoles sold" and "attach rate" and other traditional metrics. (I also agree with her that I prefer single player games where I'm not forced to interact with other disgusting human beings so this trend is worrisome at best)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XzLyM5kzgg
Microsoft’s next-gen Xbox Series S console leaked earlier today, just before the company officially confirmed its $299 pricing. Now a new leak is providing more details on exactly what’s inside the smaller Xbox Series S. Twitter leaker WalkingCat has posted a promotional video for the Series S, confirming that the console is targeting 120fps gaming at up to 1440p resolution and offering 512GB of storage.
The Xbox Series S will also include support for ray tracing, variable rate shading, and variable refresh rate. Microsoft is also including support for 4K media streaming, and even 4K upscaling for games. The video also reveals the Xbox Series S is the smallest Xbox ever, and it will be 60 percent smaller than the bigger Xbox Series X.
Series S seems to be offering an amazing value for it's price. 512 GB of storage is low, but as long as it can be upgraded, it shouldn't matter.Has this been confirmed?
i'm sure nintex can give us the low down :trumpsThe trend is scalability, get your games working on as many platforms as possible and that won't change anytime soon.
With the GPU generally being the most expensive and critical component for defining the "next gen" and Series X having a GPU 3x as powerful as the Series S, this seems kinda pointless for people actually wanting that next gen differential.Microsoft seems to have realized that plenty of gamers are still stuck on 1080p and all that GPU power is wasted on them.
That said, it will run great, play all the same games and fit into your tv cabinet sooo :doge
Not the product for me I guess
also, over 50% of the market own 4k sets now.
I think it looks cool.This is confirmed? I was assuming also less memory and lower clock speeds on the CPU?
The GPU being the only weaker component is gonna be interesting.. will be curious to hear what devs say about it.
If all the Series X is doing with 8 tflops extra gpu power is rendering a higher internal resolution and the series S is upscaling, there's going to be a million videos about both consoles games looking exactly the same.
also, over 50% of the market own 4k sets now.
It's less about what people own for TVs and monitors, and more about how many people that own 4K tvs care about utilizing that resolution. 4K is the new standard, but how many casuals give a shit about a game being rendered at 4K?
Series S seems to be offering an amazing value for it's price. 512 GB of storage is low, but as long as it can be upgraded, it shouldn't matter.Has this been confirmed?
link already dead. did it have the payment option deal or is that going to be something else?
I hadn't seen this. wonder how much this option will be.
(https://i.imgur.com/Z4WSiNv.jpg)
There's a price leak somewhere. Think it was $199. Not cheap.
My friends. I need advice. Put this to rest for me.
What is the better option?
Cyberpunk on xbox s
Cyberpunk on a i5 - 1660 GTX - 16gb
Or slap a new card with rtx in the old Personal Computer
4k TV
I already have gamepass and love it.
My friends. I need advice. Put this to rest for me.Cyberpunk will always be better on PC but you will need quite the rig.
What is the better option?
Cyberpunk on xbox s
Cyberpunk on a i5 - 1660 GTX - 16gb
Or slap a new card with rtx in the old Personal Computer
4k TV
I already have gamepass and love it.
(https://news.xbox.com/en-us/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/09/Tech-Specs-1.jpg?w=800)
At 4TF this would be equivalent to a RX5300(?)
The current PC workhorse @1080p (GTX 1660) has this GPU beat in performance on paper.
It is, XOX was 6TF, vs 12TF for the XSX and 4TF for the XSS(https://news.xbox.com/en-us/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/09/Tech-Specs-1.jpg?w=800)
At 4TF this would be equivalent to a RX5300(?)
The current PC workhorse @1080p (GTX 1660) has this GPU beat in performance on paper.
Isn’t the Xbox one x better in the flop department :thinking
Didn't RDNA2 calculate TF differently?I think that was Nvidia, and the 12 TF is mentioned here for the XSX, which was measured against the XOX's 6TF when they originally announced it.
If you’re fine with a used card, you can pick up a 2000 series one at a significant discount right now.
(https://news.xbox.com/en-us/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/09/Tech-Specs-1.jpg?w=800)
At 4TF this would be equivalent to a RX5300(?)
The current PC workhorse @1080p (GTX 1660) has this GPU beat in performance on paper.
Isn’t the Xbox one x better in the flop department :thinking
:rimshot(https://news.xbox.com/en-us/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/09/Tech-Specs-1.jpg?w=800)
At 4TF this would be equivalent to a RX5300(?)
The current PC workhorse @1080p (GTX 1660) has this GPU beat in performance on paper.
Isn’t the Xbox one x better in the flop department :thinking
:rimshot(https://news.xbox.com/en-us/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/09/Tech-Specs-1.jpg?w=800)
At 4TF this would be equivalent to a RX5300(?)
The current PC workhorse @1080p (GTX 1660) has this GPU beat in performance on paper.
Isn’t the Xbox one x better in the flop department :thinking
Ronald also explained how Series S will resemble and differ from Series X, explaining that they both include the same CPU architecture running at 3.6GHz, but have separate GPUs. The Series S GPU is designed specifically for a 1440p output, at up to 120 frames per second (with upscaling for 4K TVs). However, all next-gen features should be otherwise the same.
Seriously though... why is that big speaker looking spot/vent black while the rest is white? It looks dumb as hell. It'd look more sleek being a uniform color; all black or all white. Looks cheap AF. :kobeyuck Like a Ferrari with a polished turd as a hood ornament. :dogespoiler (click to show/hide)(https://y.yarn.co/b70478e1-6588-4704-bf1b-feeed121fdc7_text_hi.gif)[close]
https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/09/10/xbox-and-taco-bell-win-xbox-series-x/aww shit I'm bout to do it again :rejoice
Live Mas motherfuckers
You have games people want to play.one ps3 remaster carrying the worlds ugliest console on its back :rejoice
The whole minimalist look feels so mid 2000's to me and super boring (I also hated minimal techno that was so popular back then). PS5 is ugly and a clunker but at least it stands out and looks like a game console.
White interiors for houses are perfectly fine.
White for anything that gets handled a lot (phones, vidya controllers) or worn is asking for it to become filthy. White cars especially are the worst, it is known.
https://twitter.com/shinobi602/status/1304481916557709313 (https://twitter.com/shinobi602/status/1304481916557709313):nope
:thinking
The XSX is dark gray? Is that some zwarte piet revisionism?White interiors for houses are perfectly fine.
White for anything that gets handled a lot (phones, vidya controllers) or worn is asking for it to become filthy. White cars especially are the worst, it is known.
I think the PS5 looks disgusting just the way it comes out of the factory but I don't think it'll look dirty over time. White controllers look bad because of how oils from your hands get embedded in them but for a device like a console/PC, black shows dust buildup the most in my anecdotal experience.
S looks like a lot of latter day consoles, X is just straight up a PC tower. They're both fine really.
“Xbox Series S was designed to be the most affordable next generation console and play next generation games at 1440P at 60fps. To deliver the highest quality backwards compatible experience consistent with the developer’s original intent, the Xbox Series S runs the Xbox One S version of backward compatible games while applying improved texture filtering, higher and more consistent frame rates, faster load times and Auto HDR.”
I hadn't seen this. wonder how much this option will be.
(https://i.imgur.com/Z4WSiNv.jpg)
There's a price leak somewhere. Think it was $199. Not cheap.
This is giving me Sony memory card/stick vibes. Hope there's cheaper options out there.
i have a white xbox one x :trumpswhy tho :hhh
Yeah as a pretty much Playstation stan, the PS5 as is is so unappealing looking. Not that looks matter, but it's so ugly and white not a color I want that its serving as a detractor to wanting one. I'd rather wait till a inevitable black one.You have to treat it like a sex doll, buy it hide it in the closet or under the bed. :doge
https://twitter.com/Xbox/status/1304540226057121794 (https://twitter.com/Xbox/status/1304540226057121794)
Nintendies would have spotted it after forensically going thru the video after 2 hours of it releasing it at most, xbots need to step up their autism game :miyamoto
It lowers the floor for ps5 too, big third parties aren’t gonna skip Xbox and for the ones that do (Japanese devs who make lower budget weeb shit) you aren’t gonna see much, if any, of the baseline power difference anyway :trumps
Another preorder shit show. :rageWonder if MS is gonna blame bots as well. :doge
We'll being X'ing together daddy :-* :shh :heartbeat
Imagine caring about the design of a system that you won’t ever be looking at ever and will probably hide behind the TV/entertainment system anywayDo you guys actually do this?
Hmm this is too fat for my entertainment stand’s shelving 🤔https://www.roomandboard.com/catalog/storage/media-cabinets/coles-media-cabinets
Gonna have to get a new one I guess 🤷♂️
Didn't RDNA2 calculate TF differently?
Finally, concrete proof that Blinx the Timesweeper looks amazing at 120fps 4K
Just remembered that Xbox controllers still use AA batteries >:(
Just remembered that Xbox controllers still use AA batteries >:(get eneloops, peasant :snob
https://twitter.com/dark1x/status/1308830078692995074120 fps ninja gaiden 2 pls :rejoice
Looking forward to seeing that this means.
Xbox Series X Expandable Storage (edit: 1TB) Costs $219.99, According To Best BuyYikes, if true... Guess that's another push for towards xcloud I suppose.
Yeah.. transfer a ~80-100GB game across USB then transfer another back to get sweet load times bros lol
It's priced high because it is in fact a custom drive... it's a tiny form factor for one, and drives that size are usually expensive and don't come with DRAM like the XS drives need. Shit aint cheap, it's not some conspiracy to get you to stream games at 720p to your Android phone if you have one instead.
Xbox Series X|S Seagate 1TB Game Drive, $219.99
Nintendo Switch Lite, $199,99
We're at a point in history where a storage expansion for a console is more expensive than a Nintendo handheld.
QuoteXbox Series X Expandable Storage (edit: 1TB) Costs $219.99, According To Best BuyYikes, if true... Guess that's another push for towards xcloud I suppose.
The Sony and Sabrent drives are the same price as the Xbox Seagate thing but they end up being twice as fast. The advantage of the Xbox drive is that it is hot-swappable and doesn't require screwing something into the motherboard. Nerds that post on forums may be fine with doing that but it's more accessible to normies.
Nobody has any clue what drives are gonna be compatible with PS5 yet.
Real talk, if Xbox Series X had Demon's Souls and some other games I'd get it over PS5. :lawd That clean look.I mean.. no shit? Exclusives games are literally the only selling point of PS5. :lol
All that money I spent on a terrifying backlog is gonna pay off
:aah
He's got it sideways too. Sexy
https://twitter.com/LamarrWilson/status/1313621670662299648Wonder how long that wait was for that break in video. :hmm
"The Series X is hot, like really hot! It doesn’t make any noise, but damn it’s hot! The console is emitting heat like crazy. It’s almost like a fireplace shaft. You can heat up your flat with it."Sounds like it needs that hog of a heatsink like the PSFif. ;)
Why are they surprised at hot air coming out the vent? That's a good sign! Those 300+ watt needs to go somewhere.
Supposedly the XSX runs really hot...
https://www.pcmag.com/news/multiple-reports-suggest-xbox-series-x-runs-really-hotQuote"The Series X is hot, like really hot! It doesn’t make any noise, but damn it’s hot! The console is emitting heat like crazy. It’s almost like a fireplace shaft. You can heat up your flat with it."Sounds like it needs that hog of a heatsink like the PSFif. ;)
Best not wait for Spring and get it for the Winter, brehz.
Sold my one X yesterday, now to decide if I should get a series S or an X.
Leaning towards series S, cheaper, smaller and I don't have a 4k telly.
Sold my one X yesterday, now to decide if I should get a series S or an X.
Leaning towards series S, cheaper, smaller and I don't have a 4k telly.
Quick resume looking decent.
What doesn't is games like Halo MCC, FH4 and Gears 5 not running yet :dead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK-iSllg62g
Quick resume looking decent.
What doesn't is games like Halo MCC, FH4 and Gears 5 not running yet :dead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK-iSllg62g
Sold my one X yesterday, now to decide if I should get a series S or an X.
Leaning towards series S, cheaper, smaller and I don't have a 4k telly.
You sold a better console to get a Series S? Congrats.
Is PS5 gonna do shit to this level, I'm literally buying way more Xbox One games now because I know they're future proofed
Sold my one X yesterday, now to decide if I should get a series S or an X.
Leaning towards series S, cheaper, smaller and I don't have a 4k telly.
You sold a better console to get a Series S? Congrats.
Like we all want our game library to be something we can carry forever in case we get nostalgic so the idea of a multiplatform library that has competitive pricing is appealing, but I don't know if I trust MS to really take that risk and bet that enough people will be on GP to make it worth it.
Is PS5 gonna do shit to this level, I'm literally buying way more Xbox One games now because I know they're future proofed
I've ripped on MS enough on them touting BC (among other stuff), but I'm coming around. Good on them for putting the effort they have... simply because backlogs are so trill nowadays.Is PS5 gonna do shit to this level, I'm literally buying way more Xbox One games now because I know they're future proofed
Guessing not or they would have announced it already. Sony seems to be updating some of their own games, like Ghosts Of Tsushima, to run at 60 FPS and that's all we know.
Microsoft is handling backwards compatibility way better than anyone else.
Day One Xbox Series X|S Optimized Titleshttps://kotaku.com/therell-be-31-xbox-series-x-s-optimized-games-on-day-on-1845380025
Assassin’s Creed Valhalla (Smart Delivery)
Borderlands 3 (Smart Delivery)
Bright Memory 1.0
Cuisine Royale (Smart Delivery)
Dead by Daylight (Xbox Game Pass + Smart Delivery)
Devil May Cry 5: Special Edition
DIRT 5 (Smart Delivery)
Enlisted
Evergate
The Falconeer (Smart Delivery)
Fortnite
Forza Horizon 4 (Xbox Game Pass + Smart Delivery)
Gears 5 (Xbox Game Pass + Smart Delivery)
Gears Tactics (Xbox Game Pass + Smart Delivery)
Grounded (Xbox Game Pass + Smart Delivery)
King Oddball (Smart Delivery)
Maneater (Smart Delivery)
Manifold Garden (Smart Delivery)
NBA 2K21
Observer: System Redux
Ori and the Will of the Wisps (Xbox Game Pass + Smart Delivery)
Planet Coaster (Smart Delivery)
Sea of Thieves (Xbox Game Pass + Smart Delivery)
Tetris Effect: Connected (Xbox Game Pass + Smart Delivery)
The Touryst (Xbox Game Pass + Smart Delivery)
War Thunder (Smart Delivery)
Warhammer: Chaosbane Slayer Edition
Watch Dogs: Legion (Smart Delivery)
WRC 9 FIA World Rally Championship (Smart Delivery)
Yakuza: Like a Dragon (Smart Delivery)
Yes, Your Grace (Smart Delivery)
Yikes
Yikes
Dude that list is garbage. I’m sorry. Like what is exciting about this launch? I read your guy’s posts and it seems the only thing any of you are excited about is playing already released games. What is making any of you buy the Series X right out the gate? I’m genuinely curious.I love wasting money on new shiny things.
Dude that list is garbage. I’m sorry. Like what is exciting about this launch? I read your guy’s posts and it seems the only thing any of you are excited about is playing already released games. But then wouldn’t a PC better serve that? What is making any of you buy the Series X right out the gate? I’m genuinely curious.
I think Dirt 5 is going to get some uplift due to being there out of the gate.It looked surprisingly good, like the type of arcade racer a platform holder would usually push out for launch.
HALO was the big one for Microsoft and they botched it. They also rebooted Fable at some point and ran into trouble with the new Forza as well.Yikes
The era of big launch games to sell systems is over. Why dump resources into a game you try to shove out the door for launch, if the core audience who a launch is aimed at, will buy the system anyway. :trumps
I don’t understand it because I’ve never seen people excited for a console to play games they already own. I’ve never seen the sole reason a console is getting praised is the BC.Dude that list is garbage. I’m sorry. Like what is exciting about this launch? I read your guy’s posts and it seems the only thing any of you are excited about is playing already released games. But then wouldn’t a PC better serve that? What is making any of you buy the Series X right out the gate? I’m genuinely curious.
To play the games they are already playing with better graphics, much faster load times, etc.
That's not exciting for everyone, but I don't get why it's so hard to understand. Do you mostly play short SP games that you stop playing when you are done or something? Lots of people play the same games for years at a time.
And not everyone likes PC gaming. Another weird one that I don't get why people don't understand, as if buying a PC and playing games on it is the same experience as buying a console.
Have fun playing Destruction All Stars :lolIll be playing Cyberpunk probably on One X first and then PC.
Are you going to replay most of those 600 games? Probably would be pretty to cheap to rebuy the ones you will and clearly money is'nt an issue since you bought 600 xbox games.Dude that list is garbage. I’m sorry. Like what is exciting about this launch? I read your guy’s posts and it seems the only thing any of you are excited about is playing already released games. But then wouldn’t a PC better serve that? What is making any of you buy the Series X right out the gate? I’m genuinely curious.
I have over 600 Xbox games. Should I rebuy all of those on Steam?
Also upscaled 360\OG Xbox games at improved frameratesis like the thing I‘m most interested in. No kidding.
And I agree with Riotous, every time I want to play CONTROL on my 4k TV the set-up is more difficult than booting up VR even.I agree about PC gaming no doubt. I still do it, but it is a hassle for me, as I need couch gaming to relax; instant gratification... Sitting to game where I work all day, everyday, feels like one of those "you don't eat where you shit" situations. That's just me.
Switching sound devices, switching screens, resetting resolutions, syncing controllers and very poor HDR implementation in Windows overall.
And when you are finally playing you forgot to turn off your gazillion chat notifications ::)
The entire process is just cumbersome and not as easy and carefree as console gaming.
Right now Switch is the smoothest for me, followed by the Xbox One X.
I hated fucking around with drivers, I haven’t gamed on a pc since 2013 or so, it’s a lot easier to just slap a disc in the box and let it install and I’m good to go.
I hated fucking around with drivers, I haven’t gamed on a pc since 2013 or so, it’s a lot easier to just slap a disc in the box and let it install and I’m good to go.
drivers rlly
Windows 10 Issues
[World of Warcraft Shadowlands]: When run at frame rates greater than 60 FPS with high display settings, moving characters display minute twitching/stuttering. [200647563]
[Sunset Overdrive]: The game may display random green corruption if Depth of Field is enabled from in-game settings. [2750770]
[Call of Duty - Warzone]: Freestyle does not work. (200593020)
[Forza Motorsport 7]: The curb may display a black strip during a race on certain tracks. [2781776]
[Fortnite]: Blue-screen crash occurs pointing to nvlddmkm.sys when playing the game at 4K resolution. [200645328]
To work around, set the resolution to lower than 4k.
[Zombie Army: Dead War 4][Ansel/Freestyle]: The Ansel & Freestyle tabs are unselectable. [2810884]
You may encounter issues installing the NVIDIA Control Panel from the Windows Store.
[YouTube]: Video playback stutters while scrolling down the YouTube page. [3129705]
[G-SYNC]: With G-SYNC enabled on some Freesync displays, half of the screen goes black. [3133895]
[GeForce RTX 3080/3090]: Samsung G9 49" display goes black at 240 Hz. [3129363]
[Notebook][H-Clone]: With the integrated graphics processor as the clone source, display settings cannot be changed from the NVIDIA Control Panel. [200594188]
[Notebook]: Some Pascal-based notebooks w/ high refresh rate displays may randomly drop to 60Hz during gameplay. [3009452]
Says the guy who has an aneurysm every time a game isn’t released on his preferred store. :girlaff
I hated fucking around with drivers, I haven’t gamed on a pc since 2013 or so, it’s a lot easier to just slap a disc in the box and let it install and I’m good to go.
drivers rlly
rllyQuoteWindows 10 Issues
[World of Warcraft Shadowlands]: When run at frame rates greater than 60 FPS with high display settings, moving characters display minute twitching/stuttering. [200647563]
[Sunset Overdrive]: The game may display random green corruption if Depth of Field is enabled from in-game settings. [2750770]
[Call of Duty - Warzone]: Freestyle does not work. (200593020)
[Forza Motorsport 7]: The curb may display a black strip during a race on certain tracks. [2781776]
[Fortnite]: Blue-screen crash occurs pointing to nvlddmkm.sys when playing the game at 4K resolution. [200645328]
To work around, set the resolution to lower than 4k.
[Zombie Army: Dead War 4][Ansel/Freestyle]: The Ansel & Freestyle tabs are unselectable. [2810884]
You may encounter issues installing the NVIDIA Control Panel from the Windows Store.
[YouTube]: Video playback stutters while scrolling down the YouTube page. [3129705]
[G-SYNC]: With G-SYNC enabled on some Freesync displays, half of the screen goes black. [3133895]
[GeForce RTX 3080/3090]: Samsung G9 49" display goes black at 240 Hz. [3129363]
[Notebook][H-Clone]: With the integrated graphics processor as the clone source, display settings cannot be changed from the NVIDIA Control Panel. [200594188]
[Notebook]: Some Pascal-based notebooks w/ high refresh rate displays may randomly drop to 60Hz during gameplay. [3009452]
The latest release notes with known issues for Nvidia's Drivers :trumps, the company that does them well.I hated fucking around with drivers, I haven’t gamed on a pc since 2013 or so, it’s a lot easier to just slap a disc in the box and let it install and I’m good to go.
drivers rlly
rllyQuoteWindows 10 Issues
[World of Warcraft Shadowlands]: When run at frame rates greater than 60 FPS with high display settings, moving characters display minute twitching/stuttering. [200647563]
[Sunset Overdrive]: The game may display random green corruption if Depth of Field is enabled from in-game settings. [2750770]
[Call of Duty - Warzone]: Freestyle does not work. (200593020)
[Forza Motorsport 7]: The curb may display a black strip during a race on certain tracks. [2781776]
[Fortnite]: Blue-screen crash occurs pointing to nvlddmkm.sys when playing the game at 4K resolution. [200645328]
To work around, set the resolution to lower than 4k.
[Zombie Army: Dead War 4][Ansel/Freestyle]: The Ansel & Freestyle tabs are unselectable. [2810884]
You may encounter issues installing the NVIDIA Control Panel from the Windows Store.
[YouTube]: Video playback stutters while scrolling down the YouTube page. [3129705]
[G-SYNC]: With G-SYNC enabled on some Freesync displays, half of the screen goes black. [3133895]
[GeForce RTX 3080/3090]: Samsung G9 49" display goes black at 240 Hz. [3129363]
[Notebook][H-Clone]: With the integrated graphics processor as the clone source, display settings cannot be changed from the NVIDIA Control Panel. [200594188]
[Notebook]: Some Pascal-based notebooks w/ high refresh rate displays may randomly drop to 60Hz during gameplay. [3009452]
What is this nonsense even ???
Says the guy who has an aneurysm every time a game isn’t released on his preferred store. :girlaff
I mean, I don't have a preferred store?
I just hate forced exclusivity. That's a pretty big difference.
Says the guy who has an aneurysm every time a game isn’t released on his preferred store. :girlaff
I mean, I don't have a preferred store?
I just hate forced exclusivity. That's a pretty big difference.
So do you hate how Mario is only on Nintendo and Halo is only on Microsoft platforms? :doge
Even when they sell Ubisoft games on other storefronts, you still need Uplay to play those games. You need EA Origin for their games. Blizzard.net for their titles and CoD. I don't see what the difference is- Epic is just another storefront, and they give away games bullshit-free, too.
Even when they sell Ubisoft games on other storefronts, you still need Uplay to play those games. You need EA Origin for their games. Blizzard.net for their titles and CoD.
With Microsoft points I'll probably never have to pay for Gamepass again.Is there a way to game this system?
With Microsoft points I'll probably never have to pay for Gamepass again.Is there a way to game this system?
Biggest thing imo is to use bing on your phone.
Microsoft rewards can be fairly generous if you are dedicated. But it can be a big time sink to remember to do all the stuff.
Biggest thing imo is to use bing on your phone. That’s where most of my points come from personally.
Topic change:
Is anyone getting a new tv for series x? I’m thinking of picking one up since I’m on 1080P today. Thinking of a tcl series 6 or a vizio M series.
Is anyone getting a new tv for series x? I’m thinking of picking one up since I’m on 1080P today. Thinking of a tcl series 6 or a vizio M series.
would rather pay MS for gamepass tbh :donotBiggest thing imo is to use bing on your phone.
:lol
2020 tcl 6-series does sound pretty great. mini-led sounds like it works well and they support VRR and 120hz despite not fully supporting the hdmi 2.1 spec.
According to an anonymous poster on Reddit, the Xbox Series S is only packing 364GB usable space for games and apps.:heh
"Hello, my name is Freddy Francesco.QuoteAccording to an anonymous poster on Reddit, the Xbox Series S is only packing 364GB usable space for games and apps.:heh
QuoteAccording to an anonymous poster on Reddit, the Xbox Series S is only packing 364GB usable space for games and apps.:heh
I'm still holding out hope that the MP isn't shit (it probably will be, and then I won't bother buying it).
Not really sure what i'd need an xbox for. Fallout 5? Next Psychonauts? I'll just steal that shit
364GB is incredibly low in a world were the rumors are something like Cold War is 100+ Gigs. Storage is one my concerns in general with both consoles. But hopefully as we go on storage solution prices continue to go down.
Breeders :-X
https://twitter.com/Walmart/status/1324431758901846028
:tocry
So my XSX is arriving Tuesday (maybe) if Amazon Japan doesn’t poop the bed, which it very may will, what games that ran like doodoo on Xbone are gonna be real fuckin good on this new refrigerator-sized beast?
So my XSX is arriving Tuesday (maybe) if Amazon Japan doesn’t poop the bed, which it very may will, what games that ran like doodoo on Xbone are gonna be real fuckin good on this new refrigerator-sized beast?
Probably any Ubisoft game that came out in the last 6 years. I think only Far Cry 4 and AC: Black Flag had a locked framerate but those were ports from the previous gen. Also some first party stuff got an upgrade like Gears 5, Ori, Forza Horizon 4, etc but they had at least decent performance on the xbone. Other games with notable boosts to visual detail are Ark: Survival Evolved and No Mans Sky with Witcher 3 having a patch planned for sometime in the future but it's CDPR so who knows when that is.
Personally, I've been saving RDR2 because those load times can be proper dookie.
I dunno, are you looking for a game that is basically the same but with smoothed out performance/4K resolution or do you mean the games that the developers went back and jacked up the details? It looks like the only ones getting an upgrade from the developers are games that still have an active player base.
Next gen life update: Have to rearrange some stuff. This thing is fucking huge. Huge is not the right word, more like oddly shaped. :dogeAll that power :rejoice
I think I'm not getting mine until a couple weeks out since I picked bum ass free shipping on Amazon
rip
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Man, Fortnite really is for babies. Barely played it in the past. Hadn't played it in like 9 months and came in 7th on my first game back.Did you enable the VELOCITY ARCHITECTURE?
Looks ok I guess. Doesn't look any diff from the One version to me.
I’m a bit out of the loop. Is the internal HD 1TB again? And can you use external hard drives like with the XBone?
Amazon Japan is just as fucked. Ordered mine at midnight on preorder day and it has yet to ship, though they charged me. My buddy ordered last week when some more preorders went live on Amazon and he just got his this morning. w/e I'm playing GunCon games now anyway
Getting my ass gaped like this has been a very nice experience. At this point, a big fat black cock is like sticking an anorexic chick into a grave.You wanna sell me whichever one comes later?
Update on the Microsoft order: it's still pending. Update on the Amazon order: nothing.
Getting my ass gaped like this has been a very nice experience. At this point, a big fat black cock is like sticking an anorexic chick into a grave.You wanna sell me whichever one comes later?
Update on the Microsoft order: it's still pending. Update on the Amazon order: nothing.
I went to my boss's house yesterday night. He had his from the day before and was raving about it. I was like "Hmm something seems amiss here." He had it plugged into the wrong port on the back of his TV so it was only 1080p. I switched it to the 4K port and turned on HDR. Have you ever seen a man's eyes melt of of their sockets? I have.
:drudge
Amazon order has changed to arriving Saturday, but my debit card has not been charged. I might try to get a PS5 tomorrow locally to use as a bartering tool for an Xbox. :doge
Not getting pussy for a couple of months and work crushing my desire to live has turned me into a a different kind of tard.
:goty
Cod seems to be crashing my Xbox.
Digital Foundry did the big one.
Xbox Series X | S | PC ray tracing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BN_wjO2M9Q
- RT Settings used on console are partly lower than the lowest setting the PC allows in the menu
- RTX 2060 (Super) beats Xbox Series X at a higher resolution and destoys it with DLSS on
Digital Foundry did the big one.
Xbox Series X | S | PC ray tracing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BN_wjO2M9Q
- RT Settings used on console are partly lower than the lowest setting the PC allows in the menu
- RTX 2060 (Super) beats Xbox Series X at a higher resolution and destoys it with DLSS on
Uuuh so?
The graphics card that costs more than the whole console has better performance? :titus2060 (S) actually cheaper than a Xbox Series X.
Might as well throw your trashboxes in the dumpsters guys
Looking forward to jumping straigth to 8K when my 1080p Sony breaks down in 2027.
My bravia has a light problem on the right side where its showing extta bright light like a leak or something but eh im planning to buy a new tv next year
LG CX should be the best tv for gaming. That has 13ms input lag.
Seems the 2020 Samsung Qled are at around 10ms input lag.
My C8 was already about 18ms - 21ms. A lot of problems they had with OLED before (burn-in, input lag etc.) were fixed in time the B7/C7 came out and with the B8/C8 they finally got their motion processing sorted.LG CX should be the best tv for gaming. That has 13ms input lag.
Seems the 2020 Samsung Qled are at around 10ms input lag.
Nice! Those are prob 1 class above what Ill be looking at. But still very promising, I remember a few years ago most of these 4k sets where in their 30s/50s apparently.
Like I have a series W8 Sony when W9 was the top.
I’m picking up a tcl series 6 2020 version.
The OLED was a little rich for my blood... considering I’m picking up some Sonos shit as well
I’m picking up a tcl series 6 2020 version.
The OLED was a little rich for my blood... considering I’m picking up some Sonos shit as well
I hope you are going for the Arc. I recently got rid of my vizio elevate (Dolby Atmos system) and replaced it with the Arc, best decision I’ve made all year.
Batman would never say that
Digital Foundry did the big one.
Xbox Series X | S | PC ray tracing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BN_wjO2M9Q
- RT Settings used on console are partly lower than the lowest setting the PC allows in the menu
- RTX 2060 (Super) beats Xbox Series X at a higher resolution and destoys it with DLSS on
im sure the RT implementation will get better though, and even building a machine with a (relatively) cheap 2060 super is going to end up costing you twice what a series x costs, and eventually what the series x achieves graphically will outstrip the 2060 super at least. should really be more on par with a 2080 ti.From what I've seen so far I'm really starting to doubt this, unless AMD figures out DLSS without the need for additional hardware but in the end Xbox Series X pretty much runs games at a certain 'PC setting'.
that's why Sony isn't using the RNDA 2.0 spec like Microsoft is but their own graphics API insteadI thought you said Microsoft is using their own graphics API, DirectX.
More often then not Sony's own custom graphics API is better optimized than vanilla DirectX that Microsoft runs.:teehee
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Since my XSX was the most generous gift from the nicest person on the planet, I took the opportunity to buy last year's C9 OLED on sale. Setting it up was a nightmare, but OH MY FUCK.
(Note: I'm upgrading from a 15-year-old 42 inch LED)
Missus is over there in quick resume heaven playin Yakuza. The update fixed the issues with the new feature and it’s really impressive.
I was talking about a disc drive. Sorry you had to type all that :lolI'm not dumb after all. :rejoice
Plenty of space, stop being a weirdo and installing everything
I will echo “put your games on external USB SSD.”
There’s a thing I don’t get though. Native XSX games NEED to be on the internal storage, but I’m pretty sure I’ve got Destiny/Apex/COD on the external drives, and yet they have the X/S badge on their icons, wouldn’t that indicate they’re native games that need to be on the internal?
Ok so how many games is too many games then? My consoles free storage was 670gb after updates in the alpha ring.
I occasionally play several live games:
Apex 86gb
CoD Modern Warfare 162gb
Forza Horizon 4 84gb
Hitman 2 20gb
Total: 352gb leaving a total of 314gb roughly 47% free
Now include the new games I’m installing to play through:
CoD Bo Coldwar 146.5gb
Dirt 5 72.5gb
Yakuza: Like a Dragon 37gb
Cyberpunk 2077 59gb
That’s 8 games which seems like a lot less than the advertised space and listed 802gb of space the console should have available. Granted those new games will be finished and no longer installed, some of them are longer commitments. I’m just saying it feels like less space is all because it is less space. Thankfully there is a solution available today for that, unlike the PS5.
The PS5 is even worse off, but thankfully I don’t have as large of a library of games for it to play.
I have more boomer questions. Is One X -> Series S much of an upgrade? I see there are some Series S in stock locally but the S is sold out everywhere. I’m not in a rush so I could hold out until there are more X’s available, but I’m also not sure I want to spend $500 on a new console. I’m hoping there will still be decent trade in values for the one X. This will be the first generation I didn’t have a bunch of games on disk to also sell.
I have more boomer questions. Is One X -> Series S much of an upgrade? I see there are some Series S in stock locally but the S is sold out everywhere. I’m not in a rush so I could hold out until there are more X’s available, but I’m also not sure I want to spend $500 on a new console. I’m hoping there will still be decent trade in values for the one X. This will be the first generation I didn’t have a bunch of games on disk to also sell.
I would just wait for an X if you actually want an X and are in "no rush"
Everything isn't coming out for a long while anyway that will really take full advantage of an X
Bought and set up a new tv this weekend, nothing crazy, 55 in tcl qled, Xbox is out for delivery, we doin next gen today, fam :rejoiceDepends on what you're upgrading from and what your tastes are.
What games do I need to play to be impressed that are on gamepass?
Jumping from a shitty old 1080p vizio with the og xbone lolThen this will be you when you play any of those games :neo
I'm just gonna wait for a console package that includes Halo Infinite