When it's to defend women it's immediately "oh yeah well men are generally creepy and super aggressive" wtf?
I will always defend women against men. I have see far too many PUA-like men aggressively chasing women after being told "no." To fault women for being cautious around men.
I don't deny men's nature (or whatever the hell you're going on about) given men's biological purposes are to put their dick in as many women as possible to sspread their DNA as far as possible. But that's not the point.
As for gay/straight aggressiveness: Gays do not have the "time" for these head-games. A lot of gay men start VERY VERY LATE in terms of dating and sex, because their hometown does not have another gay person in it, so using that as some "gotcha" point in terms of men is kinda because while I get what you're getting at, it's kinda beside the point as gay-side men kinda need that aggression to do things.
All i'm hearing is excuses now. Everything is the cis males fault.
The way i see it is that people around here miss the point of what Peterson says in a lot of posts in that other thread, but then i observe exactly what he says in other places, like this very thread. Irony. We all know the problem that males have, but society right now, especially in the U.S is making things a lot worse. The pendulum is swinging way too far on the other side.
Gay men defend women, and women defend women like "hey we're not hard to understand" but they are. To put it in a more nerdy way men are like the standard model of physics, you can map their trajectory pretty accurately. Women, however, are like quantum mechanics. You don't know where the fuck they are, and they can be in two places at once. I love him i hate him type of shit.
Men have to navigate these fucking waters, and it's
not easy.