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« Reply #8160 on: January 03, 2020, 12:38:02 AM »
Quote from: Excel on Natalie debate style
It's impressive that she's constructed everything so that disagreeing with her is now just proof she's right.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/contrapoints-canceling.162603/post-27898589


haha, Nat's made a self-reinforcing logical oroburus that forces you to admit you are wrong just by disagreeing with her.  Why would excel have such a problem with that?




To bad you can only snipe her very subtlety from the sides.  Direct conflict is still forbidden.
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« Reply #8161 on: January 03, 2020, 12:56:07 AM »
Ignoring the point that the outlets used 3 different images all with the same pose, and not necessarily in a prideful/positive image


It's no secret that media outlets have been framing Bernie negatively:
https://fair.org/home/msnbcs-anti-sanders-bias-makes-it-forget-how-to-do-math/

Not to mention that NPR called out Bernie's criticism of WSJ/Amazon as stemming from Trump tactics:
https://www.npr.org/2019/08/13/750800062/sanders-again-attacks-amazon-this-time-pulling-in-the-washington-post

Ahh, WaPo. Happy merchants of news.

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fuck offfffffffffffffffffffffff

also star wars

also resetera is getting canceled for being cancel culture

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« Reply #8162 on: January 03, 2020, 01:03:36 AM »
Ignoring the point that the outlets used 3 different images all with the same pose, and not necessarily in a prideful/positive image


It's no secret that media outlets have been framing Bernie negatively:
https://fair.org/home/msnbcs-anti-sanders-bias-makes-it-forget-how-to-do-math/

Not to mention that NPR called out Bernie's criticism of WSJ/Amazon as stemming from Trump tactics:
https://www.npr.org/2019/08/13/750800062/sanders-again-attacks-amazon-this-time-pulling-in-the-washington-post

Ahh, WaPo. Happy merchants of news.

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fuck offfffffffffffffffffffffff

also star wars

also resetera is getting canceled for being cancel culture

So folkx are out there trying to nazify people for making an ok symbol that's been fine to make since the inception of the universe, yet when this newspaper invokes the happy merchant whenever they have 'Jew' in the headline it's okay sis? yeah, i'm going to have to miss this bus.

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« Reply #8163 on: January 03, 2020, 01:04:43 AM »
WaPo using that image is hilarious. I mean AoC should fuck off.


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« Reply #8164 on: January 03, 2020, 01:08:16 AM »
anyone unwilling to face me in unarmed combat is a coward



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« Reply #8165 on: January 03, 2020, 01:23:22 AM »
that video is amazing, if only for the fact that it forces everyone hate watching it to sit through a two hour video  :lol

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« Reply #8166 on: January 03, 2020, 01:28:47 AM »
WaPo using that image is hilarious. I mean AoC should fuck off.

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I thought you would like AOC. Next you are going to say you hate Greta Thunberg.

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« Reply #8167 on: January 03, 2020, 01:30:48 AM »
I don't know anything about AOC other than she's a idpol whore who claims identity with all the politically convenient tribes. I don't know why you'd think I'd like her.

also cheeseburger rights are human rights

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« Reply #8168 on: January 03, 2020, 01:38:59 AM »
lol that sounded extra incel.

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« Reply #8169 on: January 03, 2020, 01:42:26 AM »
I worry about you sometimes

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« Reply #8171 on: January 03, 2020, 02:01:42 AM »
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I can't help but feel that you're not speaking in good faith.
oh shit they spotted me, guess I wasn't slick enough

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« Reply #8172 on: January 03, 2020, 02:09:51 AM »
It's really based and red pilled of ResetEra LLC to put the most mentally ill cheeseburgers who may as well actually be "bad faith trolls" on full display. The sense of "clown world" on ResetEra must be unreal for normies.

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« Reply #8173 on: January 03, 2020, 02:37:40 AM »
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i don't know if this is sarcastic or not because the number of intra-lgbtq community callout posts i've seen that rely on screenshots of private communications is pretty high (to say nothing of all the thirsty gay dudes i've seen who are perfectly fine passing around leaked nudes of male celebrities)
Seriously where are the mods in the contra thread, the wall of silence is breaking. They need to hold it back before people become comfortable with the idea of speaking the truth.

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« Reply #8175 on: January 03, 2020, 03:01:29 AM »

 :omg

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These inane "harassment is bad" posts aren't really saying much. Clouding the valid criticism in with that seems to be the primary outcome of the video, which isn't surprising when the video itself appears to do that by virtue of mixing the two messages into one output.
you ain't slick

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So you're just here to play rhetorical games?
you ain't slick


people don't need to pretend to be cheeseburgers to make cheeseburgers look bad, resetera is doing a great job at promoting that public image of the most mentally ill and toxic individuals possible.

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Just come out and say it lol.
yeah, just call me a distinguished black fellow, you know you want to. Call me a distinguished black fellow. That's the only reason you're here right? You hate distinguished black fellows and you want to say distinguished black fellow really badly. There's no other reason, obviously we dinduffin and we just want to be left alone, there's no valid criticism here.
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« Reply #8176 on: January 03, 2020, 03:54:34 AM »
I don't think ContraPoints was ever really in the gamergate trenches. She's probably most connected to Zoe via Lindsey Ellis, who was in the initial twitter happenings.

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« Reply #8177 on: January 03, 2020, 04:03:08 AM »
Hey banbot, can you teach me how to be an incel?
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« Reply #8178 on: January 03, 2020, 04:06:27 AM »
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Come out and say what exactly?
now this guy, he's slick

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When you focus so much more on the harassment than people's criticism of the current video which you disregard because they aren't pointing out again and again that harassment is bad, yes, yes that is exactly what you're doing
Yeah? Why do you care so much about harassment? Imagine being so intellectually disingenuous that you want end a perfectly valid discussion because some stupid bitch cried about it? You ain't slick, you just want to protect your friends and bury the truth with narratives.
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« Reply #8179 on: January 03, 2020, 04:14:06 AM »
Leave Banbot alone. He lets me sit on my high horse and chortle at the REEEsetera fuck ups from afar without getting my own hands dirty.
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« Reply #8180 on: January 03, 2020, 04:15:47 AM »
to be truly free you have to cancel yourself

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« Reply #8181 on: January 03, 2020, 04:19:16 AM »
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That you think I'm pro harassment or whatever you're trying to do here.
Incel Spreadsheet used to run blogs that were named after specific people he hated and he wrote about why they were bad people. He'd register their full names as domain names. Kinda like the one Kiwi Farms hosts for Disney: https://jonathanDisney.org/

This was one of the main leads of how Incel was doxed.

bruh this word filter

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« Reply #8182 on: January 03, 2020, 04:44:20 AM »
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Human beings aren’t equipped to parse critique from attack when both are happening at the same time. Expecting them to is basically asking them to wade through all the shit to address what remains. You ask them to view and address ALL the harassment just to get to something worthy of addressing.
Imagine for a moment if we had asked those attacked by Gamergate to do that, to sift through their abuse and death threats to address the reasonable people mixed into it asking questions and wanting to discuss the situation in good faith. Does that sound like a reasonable thing to ask of someone in that context? If not, why would it be OK to ask Natalie to do it? Because you bristle at the idea of treating her equitably to them? You can certainly dislike and be uncomfortable with that, but that probably shouldn’t be an excuse to dismiss the effect that kind of abuse can have on one’s ability to parse good faith critique from abuse.

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I think if she wants to address criticism, only addressing those who harassed her is disingenuous. Plus some of the tweets she only half censored were from people who weren't harassing her so she clearly already has seen good faith takes and purposefully ignored them when describing the intentions of her critics

It's non-stop funny to me how these people squirm when their smoothbrain tactics get used against them, and then they fall into gamergate tropes immediately. These people are fucking paper thin shallow. Their rabid obsession with Yaniv and kids shows is a direct reflection of their intellectual capacity.

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« Reply #8183 on: January 03, 2020, 04:57:02 AM »
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Lots of binary people shitting on enbies in this thread so they can justify watching a youtuber that keeps fucking up and putting her foot in her mouth. Really shows where their priorities lie.
ResetEra is now cancelling cheeseburgers, enby supremacy NOW!

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« Reply #8184 on: January 03, 2020, 05:26:25 AM »
do i want to know what an enbie is?

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« Reply #8185 on: January 03, 2020, 05:48:03 AM »
do i want to know what an enbie is?

It's just a ""cute"" way to say nonbinary

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« Reply #8186 on: January 03, 2020, 06:09:13 AM »
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SHUT UP CIS SCUM!!!! FUCK YOU!!! WE'RE NOT THE ONES BEING UNREASONABLE!!!!!!
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« Reply #8187 on: January 03, 2020, 06:30:56 AM »
do i want to know what an enbie is?

They use both hands.
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« Reply #8188 on: January 03, 2020, 06:32:22 AM »

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« Reply #8189 on: January 03, 2020, 06:44:16 AM »
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« Reply #8190 on: January 03, 2020, 06:59:43 AM »
god damn discourse fucking cis - cishet nonbinary shutting the fuck up nonbinary fucking fucked up shit Cishet no fucking say nonbinary shut the fuck up.

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« Reply #8191 on: January 03, 2020, 07:11:37 AM »
Quote from: Excel on Natalie debate style
It's impressive that she's constructed everything so that disagreeing with her is now just proof she's right.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/contrapoints-canceling.162603/post-27898589


haha, Nat's made a self-reinforcing logical oroburus that forces you to admit you are wrong just by disagreeing with her.  Why would excel have such a problem with that?

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To bad you can only snipe her very subtlety from the sides.  Direct conflict is still forbidden.

I am flabbergasted that contrapoints would ever put forth a circular argument like this that indicts everyone regardless of stance or opinion
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« Reply #8192 on: January 03, 2020, 07:34:36 AM »
god damn discourse fucking cis - cishet nonbinary shutting the fuck up nonbinary fucking fucked up shit Cishet no fucking say nonbinary shut the fuck up.

As someone who doesn't think that a man should be the only breadwinner in the family or that men should not resolve all conflicts by fighting, I therefore qualify as non-binary in 2020. :smug


DIE CIS SCUM

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« Reply #8193 on: January 03, 2020, 07:42:24 AM »
My wife earns more than me, and I'm agender. Check, and mate   :kermit

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« Reply #8194 on: January 03, 2020, 07:43:45 AM »
I'm a single cis male and most women I know make more than me

wait that's now how this works

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« Reply #8195 on: January 03, 2020, 07:54:02 AM »
what a cursed page this is.

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« Reply #8196 on: January 03, 2020, 08:06:38 AM »
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Also she literally claims anyone who wants to talk about him potentially having outed Lana of being a fake trans nazi who belongs on kiwifarms
I can't help but feel incel spreadsheet is talking about me. Because putting a meme flag in your avatar as a riff is claiming to be trans. I guess that's all it takes for these people, a fucking avatar.

Did Contra actually say this or is this incel's improvisation?
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« Reply #8197 on: January 03, 2020, 08:32:20 AM »
no one here watched that long ass shit so we couldnt tell you :nope

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« Reply #8198 on: January 03, 2020, 08:42:41 AM »
My wife earns more than me, and I'm agender. Check, and mate   :kermit
We're all a gender, so stop thinking you're special...
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« Reply #8199 on: January 03, 2020, 08:58:29 AM »
do i want to know what an enbie is?

They use both hands.
To do what?

Double fisting that sweet fronthole.

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« Reply #8200 on: January 03, 2020, 09:18:37 AM »
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That was a fantastic video to be honest.
Her point about how leftist twitter managed to accomplish what the alt right couldn't, which was making her appear to be radioactive, no one can associate with her without getting trashed and taking a hit to their own image was really funny, until I realized how accurate it was.
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great vid. hopefully this is one step in the right direction towards a more sane left that is less pathological about this cancelling bullshit
Y'all could have just saved the word count and just come out and say you hate non-binary people
https://www.resetera.com/threads/contrapoints-canceling.162603/post-27902343

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« Reply #8201 on: January 03, 2020, 09:20:07 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/my-reddit-home-feed-is-90-porn-am-i-the-only-one.162734/

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Just started using Reddit and after one day my home feed is like PornHub’s main page. Seriously, it’s like 90% porn and 10% of gaming. Am I a perv or the platform has a ton of quality NSFW subreddits, you can’t simply resist to follow?

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« Reply #8202 on: January 03, 2020, 09:21:45 AM »
those people really are boomers. :lol so suprised at reddit having porn

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« Reply #8203 on: January 03, 2020, 09:27:12 AM »
I just don't care about any of this shit, like who fucking cares?

Cool a trans woman made a video 5 minutes shorter than robocop about being cancelled by people we already know have some form of brain injury?

Between reset and twitter they're essentially the same type of mentally ill person who's opinion isn't even fun to poke at when it comes to this stuff, it's just fucking sad.

carepost out.

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« Reply #8204 on: January 03, 2020, 09:46:07 AM »

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« Reply #8205 on: January 03, 2020, 09:47:54 AM »
She did that to herself though

             is this victim blaming?
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« Reply #8206 on: January 03, 2020, 09:57:03 AM »
Who browses porn reddits on their actual account? Boomers smh
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« Reply #8207 on: January 03, 2020, 10:08:23 AM »
I only look at porn on Reddit, and I've never had an account.  :brain

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« Reply #8208 on: January 03, 2020, 10:14:47 AM »
Nobody here thinks harassment is okay, but

Huh, I could have sworn era had something to say about these kind of "nobody thinks ____ BUT" arguments

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Funny how much that reminds me of threads on somebody like Dave Chapelle, “oh the transphobic jokes suck but the rest is great so I’ll definitely keep supporting him”.

Soooo... the "something, but" clause is a deflection tactic? Its not? Make your mind up!

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« Reply #8209 on: January 03, 2020, 10:29:12 AM »
When the Contrapoints controversy initially happened it was a point where I started to realize that I'm getting old and out of touch with some of this stuff because I couldn't make heads or tails of any of it. As someone with no stake in this that has never watched a Contrapoints video before or since this happened the correct move just seemed to be to Grandpa Simpson my way out the door.

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« Reply #8210 on: January 03, 2020, 10:33:24 AM »
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I mean if the options are literally kill herself or don't give a shit about any criticism ever. She probably should rethink being a media personality with a large influential platform
Well there you have it, if you're going to be bold enough to cast your opinion out into the public sphere, you should be prepared to accept criticism. You should have to address it. You should have to DEBATE ME YOU COWARD!

I agree with incel spreadsheets.

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« Reply #8211 on: January 03, 2020, 10:47:15 AM »
When the Contrapoints controversy initially happened it was a point where I started to realize that I'm getting old and out of touch with some of this stuff because I couldn't make heads or tails of any of it. As someone with no stake in this that has never watched a Contrapoints video before or since this happened the correct move just seemed to be to Grandpa Simpson my way out the door.
I'm pretty sure you're not trending as old as you think. ERA did age poll recently and the site is filled with mostly 30 and up guys.  Makes sense. Younger people don't do forums in the age of Twitch, Instagram, Youtube, and so on.  Especially ones with archaic ISP email requirements. Hilarious how they copied GAF to the tee lol.

You just care about your time and attention. 

Funny thing, I mostly agree with most of ERA on progressive topics. Yes, LGBT folks should be treated with dignity, respect, and be protected from discrimination. Yes, corporations should pay taxes. Yes, police forces have to much power to intimidate minorities.

But I'm not gonna spend oodles amount of time arguing online, which basically does shit for progressive causes. The amount of time people waste on that site arguing about shades of gray and other purity tests in the progressive umbrella is mind-boggling.  There are no conservatives there, so it's not like they're arguing with those with radically different views.  There is no consensus building. It's either get in line or "Fuck Off!"

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« Reply #8212 on: January 03, 2020, 10:47:34 AM »
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Also she literally claims anyone who wants to talk about him potentially having outed Lana of being a fake trans nazi who belongs on kiwifarms
I can tell y'all the Farms know who most of the trans people posted in that bit near the middle are
https://www.resetera.com/threads/contrapoints-canceling.162603/post-27909963

I don't understand what they're saying

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« Reply #8213 on: January 03, 2020, 10:50:24 AM »
check out this word vomit

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« Reply #8214 on: January 03, 2020, 10:51:47 AM »
A lot of this shit is going above my head and I'm glad it is tbh :pimp  :brain
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« Reply #8215 on: January 03, 2020, 10:52:46 AM »
The second shit gets real all the normies throw their hands up in the air in confusion. How disappointing.

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« Reply #8216 on: January 03, 2020, 10:53:29 AM »
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I mean if the options are literally kill herself or don't give a shit about any criticism ever. She probably should rethink being a media personality with a large influential platform
Well there you have it, if you're going to be bold enough to cast your opinion out into the public sphere, you should be prepared to accept criticism. You should have to address it. You should have to DEBATE ME YOU COWARD!

I agree with incel spreadsheets.
Lmao what a fucked up moral compass from a “progressive” poster.
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« Reply #8217 on: January 03, 2020, 10:53:54 AM »
When the Contrapoints controversy initially happened it was a point where I started to realize that I'm getting old and out of touch with some of this stuff because I couldn't make heads or tails of any of it. As someone with no stake in this that has never watched a Contrapoints video before or since this happened the correct move just seemed to be to Grandpa Simpson my way out the door.
Funny thing is, they don't really understand it either. That's part of the reason that any and all 'discourse' on the topic is so strained.

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« Reply #8218 on: January 03, 2020, 10:57:54 AM »
When the Contrapoints controversy initially happened it was a point where I started to realize that I'm getting old and out of touch with some of this stuff because I couldn't make heads or tails of any of it. As someone with no stake in this that has never watched a Contrapoints video before or since this happened the correct move just seemed to be to Grandpa Simpson my way out the door.

a refusal to educate yourself means complacency has crept in; choosing not to take a side is support for the status quo, which is currently careening at full speed toward fascism on a global scale
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« Reply #8219 on: January 03, 2020, 11:02:08 AM »
ya'll folx really need to educate yourselves on the distinction between gender dysphoria and transgender/enby people in general.