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[benjipwns]

from the person who Hbomberguy digitally murdered:
https://twitter.com/slightlysluggy/status/1213952550052909056

[Averon]

That they are just now realizing that woke leftist Youtube isn't immune to cults of personality, toxic followers, and being performative woke just exposes them of their insularity and blinders.

[Boredfrom]

That they are just now realizing that woke leftist Youtube isn't immune to cults of personality, toxic followers, and being performative woke just exposes them of their insularity and blinders.

Zoe Quinn still did nothing wrong.

[Boredfrom]

Wait, what the fuck is "BreadTube" 

Leftist woke YouTubers stupid nickname.

BreadTube" references anarchist writer Pyotr Kropotkin's The Conquest of Bread, aka the "Bread Book".

 

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/BreadTube

[Transhuman]

I forgot the top of page sexual objectification of women

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https://i.imgur.com/8C7onG0.jpg

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3 fucking clicks for that?

 

I didn't want to offend anyone

[railGUN]

lefttube? breadtube? Someone get me my cane so I can see myself out...

[benjipwns]

Wait, what the fuck is "BreadTube" 

Leftist woke YouTubers stupid nickname.

It's a reference to:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Conquest_of_Bread

Even though barely any of them are anarchists, let alone on Kropotkin's level. Contrapoints has said she isn't even a communist, for example, let alone an anarchist. Same with a whole bunch of the rest. I'm also pretty sure that the "dirtbag left" (most associated with Chapo Trap House) is not the same group as Breadtube.

[railGUN]

This is the 'I have a black friend' version of climate change.

 

also

https://www.resetera.com/threads/adults-criticizing-greta-thunberg-for-trying-to-reduce-damage-to-the-planet-and-its-residents-is-bizarre.163328/post-28008477

Stupid fucking thing to post on Twitter but ERA DOESN'T SCREEN CAP STUPID THINGS PEOPLE SAY TO MOCK THEM. THEY'RE ABOVE THAT!!

[benjipwns]

Most of Breadtube I thought started as "anti-alt-right" types, a bunch of them came out of that whole Atheist/Skeptic movement that had a few years reign. I think this was common for the "alt-right" too, but one group went right and the other left, even though their main thing was to just fight culture wars more than anything.

The "dirtbag left" are "actual" leftists (aka socdem, but some communists, tankies, etc.) who just don't agree with the PC/SJW culture war crap. (aka BOTHSIDERS as they'd make fun of Jordan Peterson and people like incelsiorlef)

[shosta]

When you say breadtube, is this like, "bread and roses" dsa shlock, or something different? Is there a quintessence I can reference?

[benjipwns]

When you say breadtube, is this like, "bread and roses" dsa shlock, or something different? Is there a quintessence I can reference?

They're basically the same as ResetERA.com's "left" prolific posters who'd never touch the Socialism OT from sphagnum. Oh sure, end capitalism, but do it by voting straight ticket Democrat. Meanwhile the important issues are fighting over Disney movies and crying about the alt-right taking over every platform they use constantly.

[shosta]

Ok I should have googled first, it's a kropotkin reference. The top three listed breadtubers are contrapoints, hbomberguy, and lindsayellis. Out of those names only contrapoints makes political content. The most political thing that I've seen hbomberguy do is tackle climate change and soyboy stuff... In general it's mostly culture war content. Lindsay Ellis only does film reviews. So as benji points out it seems like this is mostly just a reaction to the anti-SJW culturekampf that has infested YouTube.

[HaughtyFrank]

More like whitebreadtube

 

[benjipwns]

Ok I should have googled first, it's a kropotkin reference. The top three listed breadtubers are contrapoints, hbomberguy, and lindsayellis. Out of those names only contrapoints makes political content. The most political thing that I've seen hbomberguy do is tackle climate change and soyboy stuff... In general it's mostly culture war content. Lindsay Ellis only does film reviews. So as benji points out it seems like this is mostly just a reaction to the anti-SJW culturekampf that has infested YouTube.

PhilosophyTube* and Shaun are like two others people have tried to make me watch.

Their self-descriptions:

BreadTube is a place for the new wave of creators, journalists and artists making high-quality content that goes against the prevailing winds of the internet. Politics, History, Economics, Science, Media Analysis, Free Speech, Film Criticism, Philosophy, Anarchism - as long as it is thoughtful and well researched, it is welcome here. Why Bread? [Read the bread book] (https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-the-conquest-of-bread)

BreadTube or LeftTube is a loose community of leftist YouTubers. "BreadTube" references anarchist writer Pyotr Kropotkin's The Conquest of BreadWikipedia's W.svg, aka the "Bread Book".[1]

BreadTube may be considered a response to the overwhelming presence of right-wing, anti-SJW and conspiratorial YouTubers that move young people through the "alt-right pipeline".[2] Their goal is not only to de-radicalize/draw young people away from those reactionary places, but also to educate progressives that moved further left

*The best thing he ever did was write this hilarious letter to a professor to try to get him to cancel a TERF speaking at a school or something.

[benjipwns]

look at this fucking thing (he shared it himself btw, so yes I am doxxing)

Stock would, I'm sure, tell you that I am a man attempting to take a space in public philosophy from a woman, so if you would like to make the public aware of these views without exposing them to the ignorant frameworks Stock uses to persuade, might I suggest as an alternative speaker Doctor Talia Bettcher of the University of Los Angeles, who herself has engaged with Stock's work brilliantly before. Stock would also say that she is not personally hateful towards trans and nonbinary people and that she makes a practice of using preferred pronouns and names when teaching, though as Bettcher has shown Stock's consistent metaphysical scepticism in the face of trans people's existence qua trans people (for instance, referring to trans women as "male bodied") offers an intellectual-sounding justification for doubting trans people when they tell us what gender they are, and this doubt is all too easily translatable into hostility, discriminatory laws, and violence.

[shosta]

Jason Unruhe isn't listed anywhere on this page. Very curious.

[Uncle]

lindsay doesn't feel like she fits into that group at all

after all, she's critical of disney

[shosta]

I like how he threatens the entire institute at the end

[benjipwns]

as you can probably tell from the title of the place it dates back nearly a century and part of its endowment comes from the crown, but Oliver has worked in "public-facing philosophy" for his WHOLE ADULT LIFE

[team filler]

I forgot the top of page sexual objectification of women

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https://i.imgur.com/8C7onG0.jpg

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3 fucking clicks for that?

 

I didn't want to offend anyone

then post a fatter ass, mate!

[clothedmacuser]

You realize that's her problem right?

Not anyone else's then.

You're basically saying she had no choice but to use an alt account to search her name to find tweets from people who blocked saying things about her and then posting them up in a video for millions to see under the banner of this my harasser.

She tried to defend herself, total alt-right move.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/contrapoints-canceling.162603/post-28010136

Excel really hates when another trans is more popular than her.

[shosta]

HBomberman is cancelled: 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/contrapoints-canceling.162603/page-22#post-28008620

Getting tired of this clique of influential personalities so up their own ass they don’t notice they repeatedly talk down to the community they claim to be allies toward while their fan base continuously mimics that behaviour.

the irony

[benjipwns]

her best post in forever:

[Rman]

Bernie is probably the most ERA friendly candidate, yet he has some rabid haters on that site. Very strange. 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bernie-sanders-lied-about-sharing-his-full-medical-history.163380/

[benjipwns]

Her video in incels that was like majority empathy and sympathy with lip service to their hatred

[benjipwns]

Getting tired of this clique of influential personalities so up their own ass they don’t notice they repeatedly talk down to the community they claim to be allies toward while their fan base continuously mimics that behaviour.

Fucking this.

[benjipwns]

Well, I liked the video.

What was your fav part?

The Buck Angel whitewashing section with the you belong on kiwifarms if you look into him outing Lana Wachowski for profit

Or where it turns out she name searched herself on on an alt account, or signed out, or had someone else name search her for her, so she could post barely concealed screenshots of tweets from someone who blocked her years ago to lump that person in with her harassers to her millions of viewers?

I'm not your enemy.

[Lonewulfeus]

My best friend eats pumpernickel.

Pumpernickel makes a damn good bagel. 👍

[remy]

Bernie is probably the most ERA friendly candidate, yet he has some rabid haters on that site. Very strange. 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bernie-sanders-lied-about-sharing-his-full-medical-history.163380/

Why would a forum of consumer, corporate dicksuckers go with bernie over the other safe dem options of more of the same old man and more of the same token woman

this is a forum birthed because they couldn't post about hillary clinton enough

[benjipwns]

goddammit just have Warren be your VP

That would be the worst answer to this problem.

why

Because if the concern is age and health, you'd ideally pair the candidate with someone young. Warren is younger than Bernie, but not by that much.

[PogiJones]

Well, I liked the video.

What was your fav part?

The Buck Angel whitewashing section with the you belong on kiwifarms if you look into him outing Lana Wachowski for profit

Or where it turns out she name searched herself on on an alt account, or signed out, or had someone else name search her for her, so she could post barely concealed screenshots of tweets from someone who blocked her years ago to lump that person in with her harassers to her millions of viewers?

I'm not your enemy.

[benjipwns]

do they all just gather in a room and give everyone a heads-up for assistance whenever they make one of these concern threads or...?

It's called Discord.

Why is it that PoliGAF very clearly posts a thread with the intention of gathering 3/4 dudes and shoutdown the thread with endless replies and concern trolls?

Because the new GM approves of this behavior and the owner who nobody can remember or even knows the username of also did.

[benjipwns]

They literally once complained to a NeoGAF.com moderator because I kept fucking it up by going in their bait threads and derailing them when they'd bitch about them in the PoliGAF threads. (For the record, I don't think Metaphoreus was doing it intentionally until later on.)

[shosta]

Why is it that PoliGAF very clearly posts a thread with the intention of gathering 3/4 dudes and shoutdown the thread with endless replies and concern trolls?

Like it's very obvious seeing the same 3 avatars constantly post in a given thread, do they all just gather in a room and give everyone a heads-up for assistance whenever they make one of these concern threads or...?

[benjipwns]

I want to note that the forwarded complaints did not seem to indicate the PoliGAFfers grasped it, but the moderator who warned me quite clearly recognized it as he suggested that "technically it very much is trolling."

[benjipwns]

Not everything can be Fire Emblem.

[shosta]

(For the record, I don't think Metaphoreus was doing it intentionally until later on.)

RIP to a real one.

[shosta]

Late night poligaf was so good. Retromelon's Jindal posting

[PogiJones]

So was there a thread on Ricky Gervais's speech?

[railGUN]

Did I say you were though?

I'm stating aggressively that

"I like this video" and nothing else is avoiding 1the conversation

I don't let that fly in say Chappelle threads, it doesn't fly here either

"I'm stating aggressively" is just 

[benjipwns]

I always thought it was funny when one of the Day Democrats would stay up late, sometimes drunk, and be utterly baffled by our discussing ideological shit and making obscure jokes and global references and start trying to argue seriously with everyone about the state when it was long past a meme thing even with me around at that point.

I distinctly remember one time where we wound up discussing Vietnam for some reason for hours and all the regulars started coming on and complaining about it and started posting the same polls over and over "did you guys see this!" for Senate races that were like 18 months out (and the Dems all lost) and were all upset about something McConnell said or whatever.

[shosta]

Who was the worst poligaf poster? My vote goes to Itwasntmeanttobe who was basically the prototype for "Trump (shithead)" perma-aggression. That guy was so tilted that all of his posts ended in the sincere desire for immediate physical harm to some Republican's family.

[Joe Molotov]

HBomberman is cancelled: 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/contrapoints-canceling.162603/page-22#post-28008620

Seems like it should have happened after his rant about triple fudge packers.

[shosta]

posting the same polls over and over "did you guys see this!" for Senate races that were like 18 months out (and the Dems all lost)

This was pretty bad, but not as bad as Adam livestreaming whatever it was he was seeing on cable news at that very second.

[clothedmacuser]

I liked when John McCain was a subject they would call him a war criminal for volunteering to serve in that war.  And then Nathan Phelps is starred at by a punk kid on the steps of Lincoln's Memorial and suddenly his vietnam military service is an asset.

[benjipwns]

I was used to him and some others because they were NBA-GAF people first and acted the same exact way in there. On a better note for example, Black Mamba was one of the few who had my back about stats in NBA-GAF before it got killed, then he came back and stayed in PoliGAF as a policy pundit. Real shame about the Lakers fan thing though.

I tended to not care for people who wanted to control the discussion, for some reason I think of NYCMetsfan/APKMetsfan as like that, though it might have just been early on, usually people who were new tried to do that kind of thing.

Coincidentally, I had been scrolling past B-Dubs posts for ages, dude used to always be near the top of the thread ranking and almost none of it was worth reading.

This was pretty bad, but not as bad as Adam livestreaming whatever it was he was seeing on cable news at that very second.

Blech, a bunch of them did this.

They still do it! Only half of it is just reposting tweets from cable/politico news people.

[Kara]

I was going to reply to Dmitri Dmitriyevich's question with APKMetsfan too.

[benjipwns]

Although I didn't particularly mind him in general, on a personal level, I didn't care for The Technomancer (?) constantly demanding I explain how I would plan a worldwide anarchic system that operated as a global state and even more so in that regard his incessant disbelief that I actually am a pacifist or even an anarchist. It was more that he'd bring this up all the time, in threads/discussions not associated with it. And it seemed solely because my answers didn't convince him, which like, your answers about the great uses of violence don't convince me either breh. And then stuff like when someone would ask something minor like what books I'd read as anarchist "primers" because they were interested in exploring it (and I even only had one "libertarian" book on the list, Kropotkin had two spots) he still used it as an opportunity to restart this argument and got accusatory when I was like "let's not do this."

Maybe I was just reading him wrong and taking it way too seriously. I once read ToxicAdam totally wrong over a decade ago too.

[Uncle]

I always thought it was funny when one of the Day Democrats would stay up late, sometimes drunk, and be utterly baffled by our discussing ideological shit and making obscure jokes and global references and start trying to argue seriously with everyone about the state when it was long past a meme thing even with me around at that point.

I distinctly remember one time where we wound up discussing Vietnam for some reason for hours and all the regulars started coming on and complaining about it and started posting the same polls over and over "did you guys see this!" for Senate races that were like 18 months out (and the Dems all lost) and were all upset about something McConnell said or whatever.

I know it's a bunch of shit ancient history nonsense but if you can remember any notable threads it would be fun to read one 

[Chim Richalds]

Looks like Slayven is writing the site announcements now.

ResetEra will be going down for roughly half an hour tonight at approximately 12:30AM EST/5:30AM GMT for minor site upgrades. We appoligize for any inconveniences this may cause users.

[benjipwns]

They should all spend that half an hour coming on Titanfall 2 for the PC so I can introduce them to some things from the Official YUM! Brands Titanfall Group.

[shosta]

Although I didn't particularly mind him in general, on a personal level, I didn't care for The Technomancer (?) constantly demanding I explain how I would plan a worldwide anarchic system that operated as a global state and even more so in that regard his incessant disbelief that I actually am a pacifist or even an anarchist. It was more that he'd bring this up all the time, in threads/discussions not associated with it. And it seemed solely because my answers didn't convince him, which like, your answers about the great uses of violence don't convince me either breh. And then stuff like when someone would ask something minor like what books I'd read as anarchist "primers" because they were interested in exploring it (and I even only had one "libertarian" book on the list, Kropotkin had two spots) he still used it as an opportunity to restart this argument and got accusatory when I was like "let's not do this."

Maybe I was just reading him wrong and taking it way too seriously. I once read ToxicAdam totally wrong over a decade ago too.

to be totally honest I never really pinned down what your personal politics are, either, I just get smatterings of it when you quote Hayek at length or talk about your reason.com adventures, but when I once suggested that you would be fine with UBI and a state run insurance program for everyone you're like "yeah, that seems accurate". Now you're throwing the word anarchist around and buddy I think I've got you all wrong.

[shosta]

Honest question; how old were you during this PoliGAF reminiscing you are doing?

2014, when I was 19, and voted in the primary but forgot to vote in the general

[benjipwns]

PoliGAF used to be more active (about things that weren't polls/elections) and more diverse in general, then after the 2012 election it sorta died off outside of the type that run PoliEra now and there was a gap that weirdos like me and foreign friends filled.

Before it got massacred I literally only went on NeoGAF.com for a number of years for NBA-GAF. (And I guess seeing what the popular threads/news on gaming-side were.) Then it was just King Of the Hill/cooking reality show threads. I have no idea why I ever wound up running with Late Night PoliGAF.

I was already over here for all my most important needs. Eventually we got likes too.

[benjipwns]

NBA-GAF was where I first met Glen.

[shosta]

No need to respond to my post in earnest btw, a kind soul linked me to your Rosetta Stone: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/poligaf-2014-ot-kay-hagan-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-news.745510/page-382#post-131865440

[Joe Molotov]

Just a wasteland of banned users, except for Benji, Kara, and Oblivion.

[PogiJones]

Reminiscing about gaf

 

[benjipwns]

yikes, that's archived so I can't delete it, going to need to move to the EU and file a complaint against NeoGAF.com under my RIGHT TO BE FORGOTTEN

especially that it's/its mistake

[shosta]

Wouldn't that infringe on Tyler Malka's rights to do whatever the fuck he wants? Checkmate