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« Reply #22200 on: March 19, 2020, 08:35:29 PM »
Amazing how many rich people in any walk of life are able to get tests for a cough but normal people are near death and told to just go home because there aren't tests everywhere else in the country


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« Reply #22208 on: March 27, 2020, 07:03:13 PM »
I've been watching old NBA playoffs games before bed on youtube to fix my basketball jones so I might as well post about it here since I'm bored. They are fairly quick to get through once you bypass the halftime show and commercials.

Last one I watched was Game 1 of the 86 Finals Rockets versus Celtics. Might have watched this one live as a kid before I really understood how basketball was played. I'll divide my thoughts into general basketball stuff and stuff specific to this game.






General

One made three pointer the entire game. The announcers talk about how dangerous Larry Bird is from 3 and he doesn't take one the entire game. Dennis Johnson hit the only made one of the game and I'm pretty sure 5 or less were attempted by both teams the entire game.Just a different era.

The lane and paint are so clogged and everybody helps on defense since everybody is so close together. There is no such thing as corner 3 spacers. Obviously this is how basketball has been played most since its inception until the late 90's and on but its still so different from current basketball that it takes you awhile to adjust.

So much post up play. So much. I miss it.

Mitchel Wiggins of the Rockets (who eventually got booted out of the league for drugs) is Andrew Wiggins father. I never made that connection before until this game.

Specific

It was a close game until late in the 3rd quarter when foul trouble let the Celtics over-run the Rockets. I didn't realize Olajuwon was this good, this early in his career. For some reason in my mind's eye I remembered it taking longer. But he's all around great and the probably the best player on the floor arguably. He just doesn't have the help Bird does.

Hakeem scored 25 points in the first half alone. The Celtics couldn't do anything with him. He had to because Ralph Sampson picked up three fouls in the first quarter and then sat the rest of the half. Terrible Terrible game for Sampson even when he came back in the second half. 38 minutes.  8 points. 4 of 12 from the field.

The Celtics Big Three Frontline were dominant as expected. McHale, Parish, and Bird were just way too much for the rockets. Bird finished 2 rebounds short of a triple double and Dennis Johnson was pretty close to one himself.  Like I mentioned the game was close up until midway in the third quarter when Olajuwon picked up his 5th foul and had to take a long rest. The Celtics blew them out during this stretch and the game was never close the rest of the way. One final observation. It's funny watching Larry Bird play defense. He is never close to his man. He is always 5 feet off of him playing help defense somewhere else. Because the 3 pointer isn't emphasized, and nobody is in the corner, this behavior is rarely punished.

Anyway that's it for that one. I won't do that for every game. But maybe for the ones I find especially interesting in some way.

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« Reply #22209 on: March 27, 2020, 09:29:18 PM »
https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198605260BOS.html

This shows 2 made 3s combined on 6 attempts, which is still nutso. That would be a normal 2 minutes worth of shots for James Harden.
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« Reply #22210 on: March 27, 2020, 09:37:36 PM »
https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198605260BOS.html

This shows 2 made 3s combined on 6 attempts, which is still nutso. That would be a normal 2 minutes worth of shots for James Harden.

Yeah I didn't check the stats on that one. I just went from what I remembered. But yeah there were very few. And the ones that could have been, you would often see players take a step in from the 3 point line as nobody knew back then, that was the worst percentage shot you can take.

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« Reply #22211 on: March 27, 2020, 10:48:53 PM »
I'd always heard of Bird as a bad defender, even from worshipers like Bill Simmons, and he's pretty bad man-to-man against anyone athletic, but the dude was a savant help-wise as much as he is on offense at just knowing where everybody is. Just watching the vid Stoney posted he's constantly popping up out of nowhere at the worst possible time for the Rockets to help, poke away at the ball or add an extra contest to a shot. Or even just to secure a board. Since there's no danger of a team rotating the ball around the arc to the open three pointer he can dominate whole stretches without shooting just from doing this and from his passing.

McHale's similarly not great athletically but is super smart, doesn't fall for almost anything and has great timing. So he's not killing their defense either despite his obvious flaws.

I watched some old games or parts of them on YouTube a while back and all the bad long twos definitely stood out. And it's not like good shooters taking them it's almost everybody. I remember Kevin Duckworth out there jacking up bricks on multiple possessions as Clyde looks like he's about to strangle the guy. Watched a Denver-Lakers game where everybody spent most of the first two quarters just running back and forth taking semi-open 18-20 footers. Then finally Magic starts curating inside to Kareem and Worthy and they go on like a 14-0 run the Nuggets never recover from.

It's also funny when you come across a game where a dude is taking a bunch of triples and making them, like Michael Adams was an early three point bomber I found quite a few games of, and nobody seems to know what to do about it. Dude's hit like five threes in an era when teams don't hit that many and they're still guarding him for the drive or giving no effort to watch him closely as he jogs around a screen. Even he stopped taking the three and started going inside though as the game was getting towards the end like it was uncouth to be killing whoever from out there.
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« Reply #22212 on: April 04, 2020, 12:26:26 AM »
season may be about to be pronounced formally DOA but news for my man Bis:
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28991031/bulls-seeking-top-executive-full-authority-basketball-decisions
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The Chicago Bulls have embarked on a formal search process to hire a new top executive with full authority on basketball decisions, sources told ESPN.

Among the Bulls' initial plans will be to seek permission to interview Denver Nuggets general manager Arturas Karnisovas and Toronto GM Bobby Webster, among other candidates, sources told ESPN.

Chicago ownership has discussed the plan with executive VP of basketball operations John Paxson and GM Gar Forman, sources said. Paxson is likely to continue in an advisory role with the franchise; there are expected to be more ownership conversations with Forman about his future, too, sources said.

The Bulls plan to talk with several candidates to lead the franchise and expect to have new leadership well before the league resumes play following the NBA's shutdown because of the coronavirus pandemic.

Interviews will start next week and will be conducted electronically, sources said.

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« Reply #22215 on: April 25, 2020, 07:39:48 PM »
Atlanta Hawks are going to win the championship.

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« Reply #22216 on: April 25, 2020, 07:47:03 PM »
48 wins, tops
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« Reply #22217 on: April 26, 2020, 01:27:10 PM »
Do you think the NBA just moves straight to playoffs format?

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« Reply #22218 on: April 26, 2020, 01:29:04 PM »
they'll surely need to make sure everyone has played the same amount of games?
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« Reply #22219 on: April 26, 2020, 07:02:14 PM »
Do you think the NBA just moves straight to playoffs format?

At minimum they would probably play a few games to warm everybody up instead of just jumping straight to the playoffs.

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« Reply #22220 on: April 26, 2020, 09:22:04 PM »
We watching The Last Dance or nah?

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« Reply #22221 on: April 26, 2020, 10:25:25 PM »
Been busy but I'm gonna try to catch a few episodes tonight from the beginning.

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« Reply #22222 on: April 26, 2020, 11:52:02 PM »
It's kinda wild. I grew up with MJ but never really got into basketball (watching more than later playoffs/finals) until the past ten years or so? He was so omnipresent this is still super nostalgic.

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« Reply #22223 on: May 02, 2020, 04:52:58 PM »
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29124679/nba-postpones-draft-lottery-draft-combine
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As ownership support grows for the idea, commissioner Adam Silver and the NBA board of governors continued discussions Friday about delaying the start of the 2020-21 season until December, sources told ESPN.

Amid the coronavirus pandemic, the NBA's thinking and planning has progressed on the idea independent of whether the 2019-20 season resumes and is completed, sources said.

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« Reply #22227 on: May 14, 2020, 02:12:53 PM »
I guess because I've been consuming so much 90's Bulls game on youtube, I got this one in my recommended.

It made me realize I've never watched any pre-merger NBA ball before. Outside of those grainy, black and white clips they show from time to time where everyone looks ridiculously unathletic and slow.

I'm actually surprised how well this game compares to modern ball. It's much more fluid and athletic than I would've suspected. I also love how fast foul shots take, they don't sit there and bounce the ball 10 times before each shot. Jerry West in particular is so damned smooth.


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« Reply #22228 on: May 14, 2020, 07:00:03 PM »
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« Reply #22229 on: May 15, 2020, 03:33:39 PM »
Been busy but I'm gonna try to catch a few episodes tonight from the beginning.

Watched all the episodes done so far. It's good. I mean its probably better for younger people and not old fucks who know 90% of this already but that is probably most of the audience at this point. Worth watching. My fear going in is that it would be a little too ass-kissey toward Jordan and it probably is a little bit, but its fine. There are always other extra perspectives you can go to to add some insight.

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« Reply #22230 on: May 20, 2020, 11:25:20 PM »
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29195428/horace-grant-says-michael-jordan-lied-last-dance-calls-snitch
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"Lie, lie, lie. ... If MJ had a grudge with me, let's settle this like men," Grant said during the interview. "Let's talk about it. Or we can settle it another way. But yet and still, he goes out and puts this lie out that I was the source behind [the book]. Sam and I have always been great friends. We're still great friends. But the sanctity of that locker room, I would never put anything personal out there. The mere fact that Sam Smith was an investigative reporter. That he had to have two sources, two, to write a book, I guess. Why would MJ just point me out?

"It's only a grudge, man. I'm telling you, it was only a grudge. And I think he proved that during this so-called documentary. When if you say something about him, he's going to cut you off, he's going to try to destroy your character."

"Charles Barkley, they've been friends for over 20, 30 years," Grant said. "And he said something about Michael's management with the Charlotte Bobcats or the Charlotte Hornets, and then they haven't spoken since then. And my point is, he said that I was the snitch, but yet and still after 35 years he brings up his rookie year going into one of his teammates' rooms and seeing coke and weed and women. My point is: Why the hell did he want to bring that up? What's that got to do with anything? I mean, if you want to call somebody a snitch, that's a damn snitch right there."

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As the NBA models a 22-team format for the season's proposed resumption beginning July 31 in Orlando, Florida, a timeline shared with teams as a last possible date for a Finals Game 7 lands on Oct. 12, sources told ESPN.

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« Reply #22233 on: June 03, 2020, 03:02:11 AM »
I thought they would speed up the schedule in places since no travel.

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« Reply #22234 on: June 03, 2020, 03:07:27 AM »
it's going to be a big improvement, but people don't like change. so they'll go back to regular next season anyway  :corona_mj
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« Reply #22235 on: June 03, 2020, 12:10:50 PM »
we have a chance.  :awesome

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« Reply #22237 on: June 03, 2020, 01:19:32 PM »
Interesting concept of trying to bake in the home court advantage.

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And so in a Hail Mary, some teams are trying to invent a way to exchange the home-court advantage they lost for an alternative edge in Orlando.

Executives from the teams that would host a first-round series in the playoffs told ESPN that they had internal discussions within their own front offices about reviving their home-court advantage in some fashion, and that some have already shared ideas with other teams in the same situation, with the hopes of having an ally when making an appeal to the league.

Yes, some of the very teams that could soon be trying to eliminate one another in the postseason have been recently working together in a shared pursuit to regain the advantage they would have enjoyed at home.

Strange times make for strange bedfellows.

Some of the scenarios discussed, sources told ESPN, include:

The higher-seeded team being awarded the first possession of the second, third and fourth quarters, following the traditional jump ball to begin the game.

The higher-seeded team being allowed to designate one player to be able to be whistled for seven fouls instead of six before fouling out.

The higher-seeded team receiving an extra coach's challenge.

The higher-seeded teams being able to transport their actual hardwood home court from their arenas to Orlando to try to preserve the feel of their home playing experience.

An off-court feature in which playoff teams, in order of seeding 1-16, receive first choice on picking which hotel they will stay at in the ESPN Wide World of Sports Complex and Disney World Resort. ESPN is owned by the Walt Disney Co.




https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29257603/nba-top-seeded-teams-mull-possible-playoff-advantages



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we got him  :gladbron
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« Reply #22241 on: June 17, 2020, 11:20:32 AM »
There are some people saying that he didn't propose that but who knows. It's gonna be a he said, she said thing.

I'm fine with whatever the players do and I do think this is a good time to pressure the NBA to do even more on social issues both within and outside the game.

That being said, I disagree that not playing is the best way to do this. I've always felt the best way to deal with these issues is to talk about these issues in a public facing way. They are public figures who get interviewed and talked to every day. I think that opportunity is more powerful than not playing. But that's just my opinion.


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« Reply #22243 on: June 18, 2020, 03:06:14 PM »
That's kinda my point. Say this stuff. Taking a knee has always struck me as ultimately inconsequential. There is no after effect of that other than the people who are gonna get outraged at such actions. Talk about how one party especially is complicit in this. Talk about the actions of individuals. Speak to the issues and the consequences. That always has more power. 

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« Reply #22245 on: June 25, 2020, 03:41:34 PM »
In honor of Vince Carter's retirement, here's that time he dunked over the entire country of France.

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« Reply #22246 on: June 25, 2020, 03:57:53 PM »
That maybe the single greatest thing that’s ever happened in a basketball game.
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« Reply #22248 on: June 27, 2020, 01:17:32 AM »
I know they said a lot of it would be televised but that's even more than I expected.

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« Reply #22249 on: June 27, 2020, 02:59:37 AM »
I assumed all of it would be televised. For the games that don't have a network assigned, is there literally no way to watch them?

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« Reply #22250 on: June 27, 2020, 11:29:12 AM »
I'm assuming local stations will still get their feed. RSNs is where a ton of these teams make their money.

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« Reply #22253 on: July 09, 2020, 09:11:15 PM »
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racist stro think d jax plays in the nba  :titus
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*misquoted hitler  :ufup
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« Reply #22257 on: July 10, 2020, 01:44:54 PM »
Shams needs to tell Ted Cruz to suck his dick if he wants to keep up.

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« Reply #22259 on: July 13, 2020, 01:26:26 PM »
Worstbrook got the roni. Nice bubble you got there.
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