Author Topic: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT| (Read 1188562 times)

hampster · « **Reply #5340 on:** January 17, 2014, 02:09:36 PM »

Kingdom Hearts 1.5 sold over 400,000 in 2013

Makes you wonder what that franchise could have been if it wasn't so mishandled. Sora :'(

Himu · « **Reply #5341 on:** January 17, 2014, 02:12:18 PM »

S-E's treatment of KH is just a giant fucking question mark.

God I miss Kingdom Hearts.

Himu · « **Reply #5342 on:** January 17, 2014, 02:20:05 PM »

KH2 is way way worse than KH1.

It is known.

Tasty · « **Reply #5343 on:** January 17, 2014, 02:20:15 PM »

Quote from: hampster on January 17, 2014, 02:09:36 PM

Kingdom Hearts 1.5 sold over 400,000 in 2013 Makes you wonder what that franchise could have been if it wasn't so mishandled. Sora :'(

I dunno, 400k sounds really good to me for a 1. A JRPG, and 2. HD "collection" that doesn't even include the second numbered game.

Tasty · « **Reply #5344 on:** January 17, 2014, 02:21:05 PM »

Quote from: hampster on January 17, 2014, 02:09:36 PM

Kingdom Hearts 1.5 sold over 400,000 in 2013 Makes you wonder what that franchise could have been if it wasn't so mishandled. Sora :'(

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #5345 on:** January 17, 2014, 02:23:44 PM »

Quote from: Tasty Meat on January 17, 2014, 02:20:15 PM

Quote from: hampster on January 17, 2014, 02:09:36 PM
Kingdom Hearts 1.5 sold over 400,000 in 2013 Makes you wonder what that franchise could have been if it wasn't so mishandled. Sora :'(

I dunno, 400k sounds really good to me for a 1. A JRPG, and 2. HD "collection" that doesn't even include the second numbered game.

That's the point.

Tasty · « **Reply #5346 on:** January 17, 2014, 02:29:10 PM »

Quote from: Esch on January 17, 2014, 02:26:30 PM

i hate you andrex

Tasty · « **Reply #5347 on:** January 17, 2014, 02:32:37 PM »

Quote from: Joe Molotov on January 17, 2014, 02:23:44 PM

Quote from: Tasty Meat on January 17, 2014, 02:20:15 PM
Quote from: hampster on January 17, 2014, 02:09:36 PM
Kingdom Hearts 1.5 sold over 400,000 in 2013 Makes you wonder what that franchise could have been if it wasn't so mishandled. Sora :'(

I dunno, 400k sounds really good to me for a 1. A JRPG, and 2. HD "collection" that doesn't even include the second numbered game.

That's the point.

I don't see what the problem is then? KH3 will likely sell great. Who cares?

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #5348 on:** January 17, 2014, 03:07:05 PM »

People that wanted KH3 to be released sometime within the past or current decades?

Tasty · « **Reply #5349 on:** January 17, 2014, 03:16:31 PM »

Don't BBS and DDD have better battle systems anyways?

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #5350 on:** January 17, 2014, 03:24:33 PM »

KH

Rahxephon91 · « **Reply #5351 on:** January 17, 2014, 03:45:17 PM »

Don't really like KH1. KH2 was flashy and had a lack of depth and abilities, but it was was at least fun to play since the combat didn't feel like crap. BBS had a cool ability system if I remember and the three protags had some cool gimmicks. Never played the DS games, because they're on well the ......DS systems.

Eh. Really they kind of blend together at this point. I'd probably play KH3, but also don't really care if it ever comes out.

But clearly KH3 should do alright. It's going to be on both systems as well so maybe that will help.

Himu · « **Reply #5352 on:** January 17, 2014, 03:54:22 PM »

Quote from: Tasty Meat on January 17, 2014, 02:20:15 PM

Quote from: hampster on January 17, 2014, 02:09:36 PM
Kingdom Hearts 1.5 sold over 400,000 in 2013 Makes you wonder what that franchise could have been if it wasn't so mishandled. Sora :'(

I dunno, 400k sounds really good to me for a 1. A JRPG, and 2. HD "collection" that doesn't even include the second numbered game.

KH isn't just a jrpg. KH is one of the trifecta: FF, Poke, and KH. These are the only jrpgs that sell well in NA.

Third · « **Reply #5353 on:** January 17, 2014, 05:40:46 PM »

Can't believe that KH 2 was released almost one decade ago. And there's still no sequel.

SE could've made crazy money by releasing more main games, but instead they've released one crappy KH spinoff after another. Yeah, even BBS sucked ass.

SE ruined the franchise. I'm not interested in it anymore. Same happened to FF after the horrible FFXIII games. SE, you fucking suck.

Tasty · « **Reply #5354 on:** January 17, 2014, 06:02:43 PM »

KH3 is being made by the same team that did BBS and 3D, so if you thought BBS was a crap spinoff that didn't matter, I've got some bad news.

Steve Contra · « **Reply #5355 on:** January 17, 2014, 06:04:30 PM »

2016, the year that we wonder where KH3 is and whether it's ever going to come out

MCD · « **Reply #5356 on:** January 17, 2014, 06:05:05 PM »

Dead Rsing 3 sold 526K, Forza 5 457K and Ryse 431K

https://mobile.twitter.com/aarongreenberg/status/423998958591946752

Steve Contra · « **Reply #5357 on:** January 17, 2014, 06:45:27 PM »

Yes, you're not old enough to be a real Sega fan anyway. Sooooooooooooooooory.

Mupepe · « **Reply #5358 on:** January 17, 2014, 07:06:47 PM »

Quote from: MCD on January 17, 2014, 06:05:05 PM

Dead Rsing 3 sold 526K, Forza 5 457K and Ryse 431K

https://mobile.twitter.com/aarongreenberg/status/423998958591946752

do we know how much DR3 sold in November? It really deserves to do well and it seems like it is.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #5359 on:** January 17, 2014, 07:07:52 PM »

Really decent sw numbers for those games.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #5360 on:** January 17, 2014, 07:12:18 PM »

Quote from: Mupepe on January 17, 2014, 07:06:47 PM

Quote from: MCD on January 17, 2014, 06:05:05 PM
Dead Rsing 3 sold 526K, Forza 5 457K and Ryse 431K

https://mobile.twitter.com/aarongreenberg/status/423998958591946752
do we know how much DR3 sold in November? It really deserves to do well and it seems like it is.

iirc more than 220k, but not 300k. Someone in the current NPD thread had the exact number.

Raban · « **Reply #5361 on:** January 17, 2014, 07:34:27 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 17, 2014, 07:23:05 PM

Quote from: Lagerless on January 17, 2014, 07:07:52 PM
Really decent sw numbers for those games.

yeah, dead rising looks like it's on pace to sell as well as the first one, rather than the kind of dumpy sales on the second. forza's doing pretty much par for the series. ryse didn't bomb, so i guess it wins the battle vs Knack.

i have to wonder what the budgets look like for these games vs last gen, though. common sense would say they cost more to make, and if that's the case, selling flat vs last gen's numbers isn't going to cut it.

Yeah I can't imagine these games are successful in a profit sense. Still though, I bet Capcom Vancouver is very pleased with DR3. They made a damn good launch game and it paid off.

Steve Contra · « **Reply #5362 on:** January 17, 2014, 07:37:49 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 17, 2014, 07:36:17 PM

oooh look at me, i'm such a hardcore sega fan, i like the dreamcast and sonic the hedgehog games

He probably doesn't even draw erotic Tails fan-art

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #5363 on:** January 17, 2014, 07:41:16 PM »

I dont think the budgets went up actually for most games.

Still the same tools as last gen, just now devs can set things to pc "high" settings.

No real reason why costs should increase. They might even drop for most games due to middleware being mature.

Steve Contra · « **Reply #5364 on:** January 17, 2014, 07:42:35 PM »

They definitely went up.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #5365 on:** January 17, 2014, 07:47:06 PM »

Quote

With PS3 and Xbox 360, cost of development saw a significant increase from the previous generation. Now next-gen's on the horizon, and many are anticipating another big bump up in costs (Epic's Tim Sweeney said a few months ago that costs could double). If you ask Hermen Hulst, managing director at Killzone developer Guerilla Games, however, next-gen shouldn't be a burden on developers' bottom line.

Speaking as part of a first-party developer roundtable attended by GamesIndustry International immediately following the PS4 reveal, Hulst noted that while costs are going up on PS4, it's not as dramatic as some would have thought. For example, on Killzone 1 and 2, team sizes maxed out at 125, he said, and for the new Killzone Shadow Fall on PS4, the team is now at 150 people.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-02-21-ps4-devs-speak-up-on-costs-not-as-scary-as-some-led-you-to-believe

And this is for a flagship graphical showcase game that was rushed for launch.

Most games shouldnt see a rise so.

Steve Contra · « **Reply #5366 on:** January 17, 2014, 07:49:07 PM »

Yes, definitely take the word of first party developer on the costs of developing a game for the PS4^tm

Steve Contra · « **Reply #5367 on:** January 17, 2014, 07:52:51 PM »

And even if you take a look at that number, the costs would be approximately 20% higher just on team size alone, not to mention how much they shifted onto outsourcing companies and the time spent getting an engine up and running. So flat sales, 20% increase in costs, sounds like a winner to me.

Steve Contra · « **Reply #5368 on:** January 17, 2014, 08:01:00 PM »

Quote from: Esch on January 17, 2014, 07:59:41 PM

No true Sega fan, eh

To be fair, you kind of have to have owned a Saturn to call yourself a Sega fan. Otherwise you're probably a furry.

brob · « **Reply #5369 on:** January 17, 2014, 08:04:33 PM »

How did the Saturn do in Europe? I don't think I've ever seen one in the flesh.

edit: wikipedia says it was moribund before the N64 even launched. Oh well.

Himu · « **Reply #5370 on:** January 17, 2014, 08:08:47 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 17, 2014, 07:36:17 PM

oooh look at me, i'm such a hardcore sega fan, i like the dreamcast and sonic the hedgehog games

Sonic.

You dare utter those words. :meltzer

Himu · « **Reply #5371 on:** January 17, 2014, 08:15:50 PM »

What happened to :meltzer

Himu · « **Reply #5372 on:** January 17, 2014, 08:28:43 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 17, 2014, 08:19:07 PM

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on January 17, 2014, 08:15:50 PM
What happened to :meltzer

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #5373 on:** January 17, 2014, 09:22:38 PM »

Go easy on the babies, Oscar.

Raban · « **Reply #5374 on:** January 17, 2014, 10:04:21 PM »

God I love this thread

Tasty · « **Reply #5375 on:** January 17, 2014, 10:09:49 PM »

Quote from: Exodust SoulBurn on January 17, 2014, 09:53:28 PM

I knew it, but fuck it. I'm sick of every response here being a troll, so I'll just answer how I feel like, whether I fell for it or not.

Yeti · « **Reply #5376 on:** January 17, 2014, 10:15:17 PM »

Dreamcast was the only Sega system ever worth owning.

But then, I am not a Sega fan.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #5377 on:** January 17, 2014, 10:22:21 PM »

The Genny was the best, and then Sega screwed the pooch that laid the golden eggs and consequences were never the same.

Tasty · « **Reply #5378 on:** January 17, 2014, 10:31:58 PM »

Quote from: Joe Molotov on January 17, 2014, 10:22:21 PM

The Genny was the best, and then Sega screwed the pooch that laid the golden eggs and consequences were never the same.

Poor Naka-san. :'(

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #5379 on:** January 17, 2014, 11:04:20 PM »

I thought the Genesis was fucking garbage

Positive Touch · « **Reply #5380 on:** January 18, 2014, 12:20:38 AM »

genesis had some hidden gems but the super nintendo was clearly where all the awesome innovation was back then

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #5381 on:** January 18, 2014, 12:25:18 AM »

Phantasy Star II and IV are objectively better than any jrpg on the SNES. That includes FF IV, VI, and yes, ChronoTrigger. Shit, Shining Force I and II are fucking classics too. Genesis has an incredible library. Plus, REAL BLOOD IN MORTAL KOMBAT II YOU PUSSIES.

Positive Touch · « **Reply #5382 on:** January 18, 2014, 12:31:16 AM »

the pain is so real

Yeti · « **Reply #5383 on:** January 18, 2014, 01:17:30 AM »

SNES Mortal Kombat II had real blood in it. It was the first one that didn't.

And if you really wanted to wound my old nintard allegiances you would mention the superior Genesis version of Aladdin.

tiesto · « **Reply #5384 on:** January 18, 2014, 01:55:41 AM »

Quote from: Yeti on January 18, 2014, 01:17:30 AM

SNES Mortal Kombat II had real blood in it. It was the first one that didn't.

And if you really wanted to wound my old nintard allegiances you would mention the superior Genesis version of Aladdin.

I haven't played the SNES Aladdin, but the Genesis one doesn't quite hold up. The animation still looks great to this day, but the hit detection is all kinds of fucked. Enemies don't react when you swing your sword at them either.

Himu · « **Reply #5385 on:** January 18, 2014, 01:59:09 AM »

They do. You just mash it. It's always been like that.

tiesto · « **Reply #5386 on:** January 18, 2014, 02:00:30 AM »

Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on January 18, 2014, 12:25:18 AM

Phantasy Star II and IV are objectively better than any jrpg on the SNES. That includes FF IV, VI, and yes, ChronoTrigger. Shit, Shining Force I and II are fucking classics too. Genesis has an incredible library. Plus, REAL BLOOD IN MORTAL KOMBAT II YOU PUSSIES.

Agreed and their shmup/action lineup was quite awesome too. Shinobi 3, Streets of Rage 1-2, Ranger-X, Alien Soldier, Gunstar Heroes, Gaiares, the Thunder Force series, MUSHA. Also good action RPGs like Crusader of Centy and Landstalker.

Himu · « **Reply #5387 on:** January 18, 2014, 02:41:05 AM »

Fucking ALIEN STORM

magus · « **Reply #5388 on:** January 18, 2014, 06:30:42 AM »

Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on January 18, 2014, 12:25:18 AM

Phantasy Star II and IV are objectively better than any jrpg on the SNES. That includes FF IV, VI, and yes, ChronoTrigger. Shit, Shining Force I and II are fucking classics too. Genesis has an incredible library. Plus, REAL BLOOD IN MORTAL KOMBAT II YOU PUSSIES.

MADNESS!

Rufus · « **Reply #5389 on:** January 18, 2014, 06:33:20 AM »

Quote from: Brobzoid on January 17, 2014, 08:04:33 PM

How did the Saturn do in Europe? I don't think I've ever seen one in the flesh.

edit: wikipedia says it was moribund before the N64 even launched. Oh well.

I vaguely remember seeing the logo, but I didn't know what it was until much later. I think they had a weird, nonsensical advertising campaign.

archnemesis · « **Reply #5390 on:** January 18, 2014, 07:08:54 AM »

The Saturn was mentioned in our European gaming magazines but I've never seen one in person. One of my local museums should have one in their current exhibition (not a joke).

archnemesis · « **Reply #5391 on:** January 18, 2014, 07:15:30 AM »

The Master System and the Mega Drive were probably more popular over here though.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #5392 on:** January 18, 2014, 07:37:35 AM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 18, 2014, 07:10:31 AM

awesome, my cool kids club has no europeans in it

this is like a dream come true

I bought it in a toystore just fine at launch

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #5393 on:** January 18, 2014, 09:34:07 AM »

Sonic the Hedgehog 2 > Any Mario game on SNES

Deal with, America.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #5394 on:** January 18, 2014, 09:57:43 AM »

Mega Drive had Sonic 1,2,3 and Sonic and Knuckles.

Meanwhile Snes only got Mario World

D3RANG3D · « **Reply #5395 on:** January 18, 2014, 10:04:14 AM »

Yoshi's Island>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sonic 1,2,3 and Sonic and Knuckles

spoiler (click to show/hide)

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Raban · « **Reply #5396 on:** January 18, 2014, 10:09:04 AM »

Anywhere else on the internet, NPD will make people argue about the current console wars. On The Bore it's still Nintendo v. Sega. Get over it you crusty old fucks

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #5397 on:** January 18, 2014, 10:32:51 AM »

GET OFF MY LAWN

Rufus · « **Reply #5398 on:** January 18, 2014, 11:03:40 AM »

Quote from: archnemesis on January 18, 2014, 07:15:30 AM

The Master System and the Mega Drive were probably more popular over here though.

Yeah, I did play Sonic on a Mega Drive - and nothing else.

Never owned the console myself. I also had access to a Master System with some built-in game (?) but I forget what it was. The next thing Sega I took notice of was a Dreamcast kios running Ecco the Dolphin and it looked pretty amazing to me at the time. The Saturn might as well not have existed.

Fifstar · « **Reply #5399 on:** January 18, 2014, 11:25:04 AM »

I think I knew one person who had a Mega Drive. There was a lot of coverage of Sega in magazines that I read, but I rarely saw the games and console in toystores. Consoles wise it was all about Nintendo until Sony came. Overall of course much more people played PC games over here.

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