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That crap is too crappy even for the crappy thread. Just put it here.
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:badass
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Yes, let's do this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw-yTm8zgG8
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That thread is a living fucking trash fire.
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:supergay :supergay :supergay :supergay :supergay :supergay :supergay :supergay :supergay :supergay
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That thread is a living fucking trash fire.
That's a feature not a bug.
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I can’t stop thinking about cream pies.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
the pastry and the sex act :doge
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Huelen finally posting outside of the trash thread
:rejoice
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Huelen finally posting outside of the trash thread
:rejoice
I’ve posted on other threads before. Now I get to post Cream!
(https://abload.de/img/044ace08-4ea5-40ad-a8azq51.png)
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I can’t stop thinking about cream pies.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
the pastry and the sex act :doge
Once a Buttercreamer, always a Buttercreamer.
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Why contain when we can spread
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--vrnpazTp--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/fbvuuskrxauqej9eumke.gif)
:rash
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(https://abload.de/img/be2e2877-63fc-460b-9bpyulp.png)
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Do you guys want me to get drunk and yell at Shostakovich again?
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I'm still livid about that and don't know if we'll ever be on good terms again.
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(https://abload.de/img/2da82913-af2d-495b-95zss5r.png)
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I'm still livid about that and don't know if we'll ever be on good terms again.
I mean, I didn't even get to the second path to your redemption. I think you'll appreciate it.
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(https://abload.de/img/fc5ec2c1-a3e5-4a0d-92fcs4v.png)
I’ve posted on other threads before. Now I get to post Cream!
(https://abload.de/img/044ace08-4ea5-40ad-a8azq51.png)
(https://abload.de/img/992a06a6-fa12-42b0-a3kso2c.png)
(https://abload.de/img/be2e2877-63fc-460b-9bpyulp.png)
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mods help
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I mean, I didn't even get to the second path to your redemption. I think you'll appreciate it.
Ok, I'll bite. What is it?
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I mean, I didn't even get to the second path to your redemption. I think you'll appreciate it.
Ok, I'll bite. What is it?
I feel like I shouldn't say until I've started drinking.
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Seems like you guys forgot to tell Cream about his party.
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Seems like you guys forgot to tell Cream about his party.
Like most of this forum's worst posters, Cream will likely never venture outside of that one thread.
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(https://abload.de/img/68b29bfa-3774-4a64-a5zhuz3.gif)
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I feel like I shouldn't say until I've started drinking.
Well get to drinking and come back here, baby. I'm all ears.
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Maybe if someone made a Huelen containment thread, cream would post there :rollsafe
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I feel like I shouldn't say until I've started drinking.
Well get to drinking and come back here, baby. I'm all ears.
Hey, I’m not an alcoholic—I only drink alone when it’s dark out.
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Maybe if someone made a Huelen containment thread, cream would post there :rollsafe
Nah.
(https://abload.de/img/f9cbec4d-25c1-402e-95j4qji.png)
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I feel like I shouldn't say until I've started drinking.
Well get to drinking and come back here, baby. I'm all ears.
Hey, I’m not an alcoholic—I only drink alone when it’s dark out.
Oh, wait, Shost, I have a job call in the morning, so it’s going to be a limited alcohol intake night. It might have to wait until tomorrow.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkae0-TgrRU
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https://youtu.be/rrbFQEcpJ3A
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Seems like you guys forgot to tell Cream about his party.
Like most of this forum's worst posters, Cream will likely never venture outside of that one thread.
Maybe we should rename this thread to the Other Forum Thread and leave the sticky thread as the cream containment thread. :rollsafe
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Live the life and treat yourself with baby wipes instead of a sock on special occasions.
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https://youtu.be/8C4lK41SX-Q
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Cream is great in so many dishes. Like, y’all don’t fuck with alfredo now, or what?
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https://youtu.be/chmfOI6sTMo
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https://youtu.be/KRW8if2kKY0
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Fission mailed
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkXg_wWiCgI
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https://youtu.be/TuacJoeUTvc
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Uh why are all the related vids girls peeing :trigger :cac :jared
Wait now I click again and it’s this slippery skin channel... which is also :trigger
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that algo is heavily based on your own searches bud
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Cream always rises to the top
and you're about to see the white hot cream of an eighth grade boy
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that algo is heavily based on your own searches bud
I haven’t watched girls pee in months!
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(https://i.imgur.com/XfGJFMJ.png)
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that algo is heavily based on your own searches bud
I haven’t watched girls pee in months!
This post has been brought to you by E.P.T.
No other brand is more accurate
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This stung.
But I’m learned lessons about humility, maturity and self-reliance.
I’m gonna change my approach, and show you guys that even though I make a lot of mistakes, I’m not just this. We probably won’t ever agree but hopefully I can... spread a little less hate.
Yeah yeah I know “we don’t care”. This is the cream thread!
So if anyone has a question for me, ask it here and I’ll answer, except for the people I have ignored.
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The self reflected nature of that post works really well with the Buttercream Gangs jam, Dreams of a Better Day...
https://youtu.be/F15VYnZjeCU
We're all dreaming of a better day, Cream.
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Dude/dudette, it’s just a stupid Internet forum. The thing about the bore is nobody here really gives a shit about any of this until they get triggered by some dumb shit, and then they forget about in like a day. Except Cindi, who takes like a month to forget about stuff.
Everybody is always calling each other fekkits or telling people to take their offensive shit somewhere else or whatever.
Nobody cares that you are bigender, they just care that you’re getting so easily triggered about it.
But nothing really matters as long as you can shit post and like dicks and fetishize obesity and can sometimes say something about a video game or movie you like.
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This stung.
But I’m learned lessons about humility, maturity and self-reliance.
I’m gonna change my approach, and show you guys that even though I make a lot of mistakes, I’m not just this. We probably won’t ever agree but hopefully I can... spread a little less hate.
Yeah yeah I know “we don’t care”. This is the cream thread!
So if anyone has a question for me, ask it here and I’ll answer, except for the people I have ignored.
You're already been infected by the Bore
(https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11118/111182429/4024413-kenshiro+3.jpg)
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Not surprised Heulen has a stash of Cream pics ready for posting at a moment's notice, but I am mildly surprised xhe has so many that are G-rated.
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Not surprised Heulen has a stash of Cream pics ready for posting at a moment's notice, but I am mildly surprised xhe has so many that are G-rated.
My nudes are like magic eye posters. You have to stare at them for a long time before you really see it
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Not surprised Heulen has a stash of Cream pics ready for posting at a moment's notice, but I am mildly surprised xhe has so many that are G-rated.
My nudes are like magic eye posters. You have to stare at them for a long time before you really see it
What? Fuck you.
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Not surprised Heulen has a stash of Cream pics ready for posting at a moment's notice, but I am mildly surprised xhe has so many that are G-rated.
My nudes are like magic eye posters. You have to stare at them for a long time before you really see it
What? Fuck you.
Was that for something specific or just a general fuck you?
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Tasty lacks depth perception so that magic eye poster analogy is a bit cruel
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Tasty has ways of perceiving depth, I wouldn’t worry about it
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How big are your cum shots?
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How big are your cum shots?
Not small, but small enough that I’ve been self conscious about it.
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So one of the biggest reasons everyone thought you were a troll was that you were using avatars of pedo hentai futanari cropped to show just the face. What the fuck was up with that if it wasn’t just a masterful troll move?
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This stung.
But I’m learned lessons about humility, maturity and self-reliance.
I’m gonna change my approach, and show you guys that even though I make a lot of mistakes, I’m not just this. We probably won’t ever agree but hopefully I can... spread a little less hate.
Yeah yeah I know “we don’t care”. This is the cream thread!
So if anyone has a question for me, ask it here and I’ll answer, except for the people I have ignored.
Oh, Cindi. You are some seriously deranged sicko
:rejoice
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So one of the biggest reasons everyone thought you were a troll was that you were using avatars of pedo hentai futanari cropped to show just the face. What the fuck was up with that if it wasn’t just a masterful troll move?
I like hentai. And I liked those faces.
I’m a very sexually promiscuous person with an eccentric personality and I wanted to express that part of myself in a fun way, by changing to a different face every single time someone mentioned it. I was told to get rid of it after some people complained and in hindsight, it was both a curse because clearly it gets a lot of people to dismiss you, but also I got a lot of fans (a lot of weird people I don’t actually like) and you know, people looking past the avvies when they really liked what I had to say.
That’s really all there is to it. Not a troll. I just like hentai, think the faces are funny, I’m a really sexual person, but looking back, ones from an artist that does the loli stuff probably wasnt a good idea.
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ok, but honestly when you changed your avatar to a pizza, I literally thought it was cheese pizza = cp = child porn reference
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ok, but honestly when you changed your avatar to a pizza, I literally thought it was cheese pizza = cp = child porn reference
I make short films and my most recent was about pizza so it was on my mind a lot. My first thought was “well what’s another thing about me I love besides sex? Pizza!”
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but what about pizzagate tho
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CP clearly means cream pie you sick fuck.
:doge :nsfw
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Hentai and pizza containment thread here (http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=37475.0)
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Did you shoot a medium sized nut on the pizza and then smell it? :woody :delicious
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but what about pizzagate tho
Absolute altright conspiracy bullshit. Didn’t they shoot a guy?
Also cream pie/creamy pie is my nickname with some Era friends.
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Ya I think they shot Seth Rich
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Did you shoot a medium sized nut on the pizza and then smell it? :woody :delicious
No but I did get to cover my nude actress friend in pizza ingredients
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So far you seem pretty chill, Cream. Why is it I’ve only ever heard of you, ummmm derisively
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So far you seem pretty chill, Cream. Why is it I’ve only ever heard of you, ummmm derisively
I have a short fuse, controversial (to this board) beliefs and occasionally lacking in tact.
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No but I did get to cover my nude actress friend in pizza ingredients
... can you pm me these pics? Asking for a friend.
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Do you like Taco Bell and weed?
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Do you like Taco Bell and weed?
I love weed, Taco Bell is ok.
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you’re ok
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Cream, are you a Drag Race fan and if so, who is your favorite queen from th show?
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Cream, are you a Drag Race fan and if so, who is your favorite queen from th show?
I love Drag, hate that show. I think it’s petty reality tv garbage and Ru Paul in particular is super transphobic
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If you’re not #TeamShangela at this point, I don’t know what the fuck you’re watching, tbh
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we could have been friendsssssss
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I'd bet money that pizzagate isn't total bullshit.
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we could have been friendsssssss
We’ll always have weed
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Cream, are you a Drag Race fan and if so, who is your favorite queen from th show?
I love Drag, hate that show. I think it’s petty reality tv garbage and Ru Paul in particular is super transphobic
I figured that was a possibility. I respect where you’re coming from.
If you’re not #TeamShangela at this point, I don’t know what the fuck you’re watching, tbh
She’s my fave for this season, not counting Dela. Raja is prob my fave of all time. Or Alyssa Edwards, of course.
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Alright, Cream, next question: who do you want to bang/be banged by on Riverdale?
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How you gon edit in Alyssa? She’s definitely my fave. I always have a thing for queens like Adore or Farrah Moan but that’s different and in the pants
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Ru Paul in particular is super transphobic
:confused
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Alright, Cream, next question: who do you want to bang/be banged by on Riverdale?
Veronica is 😍
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How you gon edit in Alyssa? She’s definitely my fave. I always have a thing for queens like Adore or Farrah Moan but that’s different and in the pants
Raja’s just been more on my mind lately since I’ve been binging Fashion Photo Ruview. Honestly, all of Haus of Edwards would probably be in my top 10.
I thought Farrah got a bad rap. She was really cute.
Ru Paul in particular is super transphobic
:confused
RuPaul says something really stupid about trans people every couple years (she just did like last week). I personally don’t think she’s vindictively transphobic—I think she’s old and out of touch—but I understand that plenty of people think differently. Ru should just avoid questions about trans stuff if she isn’t willing to modernize her ideas.
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Tasty has ways of perceiving depth, I wouldn’t worry about it
:noah
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Devil’s advocate — I’ve seen RuPaul characterize the clash between Ru and the trans community being that trans folk take gender identity very seriously and RuPaul very much does not
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Ru Paul in particular is super transphobic
:confused
Maybe phobic is harsh?
Basically, incredibly dismissive of gender. Doesn’t think transitioning people should be on the show. He tweeted “ you can take performance-enhancing drugs and still be an athlete just not in the Olympics” as an appalling comparison, which is ridiculous considering how many contestants on the show have had plastic surgery.
A lot of the shows contestants and other well-known drag individual spoke out against him after this, in support of the trans community.
He did apologize for this but it isn’t the first blow to the trans community he’s made. He also said a few years ago:. “I love the word ‘cheeseburger, And no one has ever said the word ‘cheeseburger’ in a derogatory sense.”
He also kept doing the “you’ve got she-mail” thing until the network made him stop and then he got pissy about it.
Ru Paul strongly believes that drag is an outlet for men to rail against masculinity. But the he has expressed this has often been incredibly dismissive of all the trans people that contribute not only to drag but his show and entire career. He has admitted to believing that drag loses some of its affect or power when it’s not a cis man doing it.
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Y'all remember that Babysitting Cream flash game? :jared
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Just when you think Bore has jumped the shark, something like this happens and it's popcorn time.
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Important question for Cream: Do you like pineapple on pizza?
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Important question for Cream: Do you like pineapple on pizza?
Fucking hate it.
Hot take. If you go for pineapple on pizza, you didn’t actually want pizza.
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pineapple on pizza
:hhh :jeanluc :trigger :nope :samoa
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pineapple on pizza
:hhh :jeanluc :trigger :nope :samoa
The fuck? I thought you were woke mod.
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Cream,
What did you think of Kingdom Come Deliverance?
Did you think it was
- Excellent :lawd
- Brilliant :rejoice
- or just fantastic :aweshum
?
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I played a few hours. I wasn’t impresssed.
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I played a few hours. I wasn’t impresssed.
That wasn't one of the options.
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ok, but honestly when you changed your avatar to a pizza, I literally thought it was cheese pizza = cp = child porn reference
Wait, fuck. :stahp
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Don’t let the amir0xs of the world ruin pizza for you, Rufus
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Don’t let the Podestas of the world ruin pizza for you, Rufus
Ftfy
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bork is at the same garbo-level as Cream, who knew?
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Important question for Cream: Do you like pineapple on pizza?
Fucking hate it.
Hot take. If you go for pineapple on pizza, you didn’t actually want pizza.
You know who doesn't like pineapple on pizza? Conservatives. They aren't open to new ideas (or flavor combinations) and are resistant to change. Clearly your anger management issues stem from the unconscious knowledge that you have a conservative persona trapped inside you trying to get out.
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Don’t let the amir0xs of the world ruin pizza for you, Rufus
No chance of that, but I didn't consider the implications at all when I was scrolling through all the shiny food emoji. :goty2
Important question for Cream: Do you like pineapple on pizza?
Fucking hate it.
Hot take. If you go for pineapple on pizza, you didn’t actually want pizza.
You know who doesn't like pineapple on pizza? Conservatives. They aren't open to new ideas (or flavor combinations) and are resistant to change. Clearly your anger management issues stem from the unconscious knowledge that you have a conservative persona trapped inside you trying to get out.
Tsk. I tried and concluded that sweet fruit have no place on pizza. Pineapple pizza is for children and kid-ults. (https://i.imgur.com/2m1dPLC.gif)
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It’s got pepperonis tho so you’re in the clear I guess 🤷♀️
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Okay where are we on the sandwich matrix tho, y’all?
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/588a3be3e4fcb519d7de89e6/t/59092a88bebafbd5176067d2/1493772938650/?format=750w)
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Structural neutral, ingredient purist.
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Structural neutral, ingredient purist.
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I could see that, but a hot dog is totally a sandwich :doge
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A pizza is an open-faced sandwich if you think about it
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Structural Purist, Ingredient Rebel
Gotta be between two buns. :phil (Or loaves or whatever.)
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I could be convinced of structural rebel, ingredient neutral, too, but it's not what I imagine when I hear sandwich. :thinking
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Yeah but if a dick is in between two buttcheeks, it’s called hotdogging. Not sandwiching.
Checkmate, atheists.
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bork is at the same garbo-level as Cream, who knew?
:batman
Pineapple on pizza :yuck :yuck :yuck
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Pineapple's great. Pizza's great. What's the big deal? :whatsthedeal
Spoiler alert: tomatoes are also a fruit that comprise virtually every pizza. You gonna hate on them too soyboy? :delicious
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Tomatoes aren't used as fruit gastronomically :batman
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So pineapples are a step too far, but onions, peppers, little fish, mushrooms, garlic and spinach aren't?
Bunch of pizza fascists up in here.
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sieg piel motherfucker
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Pineapple's great. Pizza's great. What's the big deal? :whatsthedeal
Spoiler alert: tomatoes are also a fruit that comprise virtually every pizza. You gonna hate on them too soyboy? :delicious
I get white sauce on mine.
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People who eat pineapple on pizza are the type to eat their own cum afterwards
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So pineapples are a step too far, but onions, peppers, little fish, mushrooms, garlic and spinach aren't?
Bunch of pizza fascists up in here.
Onions on pizza are even worse. :yuck
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This is making me want pizza and I can't really eat it anymore. :'(
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Pineapple is acidic and pizza sauce is acidic. It doesn't make sense to keep piling up toppings that don't balance each other out. You morans.
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Balance with jalapeños.
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Pineapple is acidic and pizza sauce is acidic. It doesn't make sense to keep piling up toppings that don't balance each other out. You morans.
Stop shitting up Cream's thread with this pizza nonsense.
Also stop being wrong about pizza.
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I find you people shitting on pineapple pizza are being really really racist toward Hawaiian natives. Maybe just tone back the blatant cultural insensitivity please?
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People who eat pineapple on pizza are the type to eat their own cum afterwards
What's wrong with that? :phil
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:delicious
pizza should always have more tomatoes than cheese
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People who eat pineapple on pizza are the type to eat their own cum afterwards
Does that clear the palate of pizza or something?
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People who eat pineapple on pizza are the type to eat their own cum afterwards
Kink shaming, Jerry! Kink shaming!
:nsfw
http://eroticfemaledomination.com/femdom-fetishes/what-is-come-eating-instruction/
:nsfw
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I am not a fan of pineapple on pizza but I won't judge anyone for liking it.
Dumping disgusting canned tuna on a pizza however.... :kobeyuck
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Tonno :preach
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I find you people shitting on pineapple pizza are being really really racist toward Hawaiian natives. Maybe just tone back the blatant cultural insensitivity please?
And I’ll have you know that those racist ass Hawaiians culturally appropriated pineapple pizza from Canadians. Get educated.
/s but that is true
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blew my mind just now actually
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People who eat pineapple on pizza are the type to eat their own cum afterwards
Does that clear the palate of pizza or something?
Pineapple makes cum taste good my dude
...allegedly
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blew my mind just now actually
It’s all a fucking lie.
They call it Hawaiian to try and trick us into think it’s exotic. But no it’s just another Canadian invention designed to tear the fabric of America apart like Justin Bieber and snowmobiles.
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So pineapples, little fish are a step too far,
Yes.
but onions, peppers, mushrooms, garlic and spinach aren't?
Correct.
Get some taste.
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So pineapples, little fish are a step too far,
Yes.
but onions, peppers, mushrooms, garlic and spinach aren't?
Correct.
Get some taste.
Says the person with a Taylor Swift avatar...
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mongolian bbq isn't mongolian
its a taiwanese product
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Freshly sliced pineapple rings w/ jalapeños and rosette de lyon on a buffalo mozzarella & parmiaggno reggiano mixture over a tomato compote on a round flatbread you made in your kitchen the night before from a pate fermentee starter.
Paired with a Premsal Blanc and lightly dressed Ceasar romaine salad tossed with roasted walnuts.
Not sure I understand the dislike.
Tho given this forum loves Taco Bell I guess this is probably too heady
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It's up to nudemac yet again to provide some class to this forum
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People who eat pineapple on pizza are the type to eat their own cum afterwards
Does that clear the palate of pizza or something?
Pineapple makes cum taste good my dude
...allegedly
I just came on a piece of pineapple and ate it, and they really do go nicely together.
There is a musky sweetness there for a refined palate.
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People who eat pineapple on pizza are the type to eat their own cum afterwards
Does that clear the palate of pizza or something?
Pineapple makes cum taste good my dude
...allegedly
I just came on a piece of pineapple and ate it, and they really do go nicely together.
There is a musky sweetness there for a refined palate.
Next time spread a little powdered sugar on top and broil until it carmelized a bit. Brings out the flavor notes of the cum and gives a nice crunch.
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Parmigiano*
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Extra g cuz I’m a g :nothot
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One could probably write a pretty good SCP entry for Cream. Definitely Keter-class.
We believe it’s true gender to be [REDACTED]
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no one gave me a like for my sieg piel joke >:(
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no one gave me a like for my sieg piel joke >:(
Cuz you suck
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:fbm
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Can't wait to bust a nut on TIMU and bork's faces then lick it off with the help of pineapple.
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hey can we talk about creampies in here
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hey can we talk about creampies in here
I’d be offended if you didn’t
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well the way i feel about creampies is
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So pineapples, little fish are a step too far,
Yes.
but onions, peppers, mushrooms, garlic and spinach aren't?
Correct.
Get some taste.
Says the person with a Taylor Swift avatar...
(http://i.imgur.com/7fcHqIz.png)
Pineapple will always be awful on pizza.
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Why do you think that? :thinking
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hey can we talk about creampies in here
The best creampies:
(https://d1sca6vi4fbl8x.cloudfront.net/media/product/image/718437i6kbL._SL1351_.jpg.750x750_q85ss0_progressive.jpg)
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Can't wait to bust a nut on TIMU and bork's faces then lick it off with the help of pineapple.
:exxy
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hey can we talk about creampies in here
The best creampies:
(https://d1sca6vi4fbl8x.cloudfront.net/media/product/image/718437i6kbL._SL1351_.jpg.750x750_q85ss0_progressive.jpg)
Spoken like a true virgin.
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hey can we talk about creampies in here
The best creampies:
(https://d1sca6vi4fbl8x.cloudfront.net/media/product/image/718437i6kbL._SL1351_.jpg.750x750_q85ss0_progressive.jpg)
Spoken like a true virgin.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-do-people-use-virginity-as-an-insult.25539/
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Pineapple, green chile/jalapeno, and bacon is a fantastic pizza. Fuck all da haters :maf
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People who eat pineapple on pizza are the type to eat their own cum afterwards
Does that clear the palate of pizza or something?
Pineapple makes cum taste good my dude
...allegedly
I just came on a piece of pineapple and ate it, and they really do go nicely together.
There is a musky sweetness there for a refined palate.
Next time spread a little powdered sugar on top and broil until it carmelized a bit. Brings out the flavor notes of the cum and gives a nice crunch.
Broil?!
:batman
I’ll use my kitchen torch. I don’t live in a college dorm with nothing but a hot pot and a microwave.
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Cream, you're more interesting to read on The Bore than Reset. On Reset you're are super annoying. I guess the heavy moderation just kills the natural flow of conversations, which can be heated.
This is true. If Cream posted like this on ERA we wouldn't have been mining his posts for mockery.
Which forum is hostile now? The one that allows for (an secretly supports) bigotry or the one that causes good men to spaz out and revert to primitive shit flinging?
Is the post sarcastic? He has accused almost everyone he argued with of bigotry and aside from a couple of decent posts he has been consistently arguing against strawmen... when he's not genuinely misunderstanding people's points.
I'll be honest. I've been reading about 5% of what they are talking about. But from what I've seen the debate has more weight behind it than the crap on era. At least Cream is trying to explain why she feels it's bigoted instead of just saying "No, Stop that. You are bad," getting 10 people to quote her.
Please. The Dave Chappelle thread was filled with tons of explanation and everyone on the bore was still mocking us then too.
If you take offense to comedy jesus Dave Chappelle you deserve to be mocked.
He's not infallible. His transphobic jokes were incredibly harmful unfunny disgusting garbage. But I know Chappelle doesn't actually hate trans people or think they shouldn't be treated with respect. I just think he's ignorant about why those jokes are so harmful.
My issue was with all the people in the thread who were told why the jokes were so harmful, and instead of being honest and admitting they just didn't care, they tried to explain away why it wasn't actually harmful or try to gaslight us into thinking we didn't explain it. which we did, many times.
Dave Chappelle makes like hundreds of jokes every show. And you don't like one or two of those, cry me a fucking river.
He's not ignorant he's making comedy.
Like when he joked about being in-line with Trump voters or joked about cops shooting black people, gingers and/or #metoo.
No one went crying to the internet over any of it.
But oh boy, I'm 'personally' mentioned in one of his jokes. I must run to the internet and demand an apology, I'm entitled to it and no one can like his show because I'm offended.
And the most stupid dumbfuck part of modern society: "Wow, that must be so offensive to [insert other group]"
Like Bill Maher said, no one cares or is offended except for the same three people ruining it for the rest of us.
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Controversial opinion, but
thehunter16 > Cream
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He's not infallible. His transphobic jokes were incredibly harmful unfunny disgusting garbage. But I know Chappelle doesn't actually hate trans people or think they shouldn't be treated with respect. I just think he's ignorant about why those jokes are so harmful.
My issue was with all the people in the thread who were told why the jokes were so harmful, and instead of being honest and admitting they just didn't care, they tried to explain away why it wasn't actually harmful or try to gaslight us into thinking we didn't explain it. which we did, many times.
Of course not, you would be banned for that. You can't be honest on ERA.
I don't care if he tells 1-2 jokes against transgender people. I admit I laughed when he said the women at a art gallery who collapsed had her "balls falling out of her dress." It's a funny image, seeing balls and dick is always funny to us dudes. His conclusion that "why do I have to take part in your delusion," was a bad statement but I dismissed it and waited for the next joke.
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Cream, you're more interesting to read on The Bore than Reset. On Reset you're are super annoying. I guess the heavy moderation just kills the natural flow of conversations, which can be heated.
This is true. If Cream posted like this on ERA we wouldn't have been mining his posts for mockery.
Which forum is hostile now? The one that allows for (an secretly supports) bigotry or the one that causes good men to spaz out and revert to primitive shit flinging?
Is the post sarcastic? He has accused almost everyone he argued with of bigotry and aside from a couple of decent posts he has been consistently arguing against strawmen... when he's not genuinely misunderstanding people's points.
I'll be honest. I've been reading about 5% of what they are talking about. But from what I've seen the debate has more weight behind it than the crap on era. At least Cream is trying to explain why she feels it's bigoted instead of just saying "No, Stop that. You are bad," getting 10 people to quote her.
Please. The Dave Chappelle thread was filled with tons of explanation and everyone on the bore was still mocking us then too.
If you take offense to comedy jesus Dave Chappelle you deserve to be mocked.
He's not infallible. His transphobic jokes were incredibly harmful unfunny disgusting garbage. But I know Chappelle doesn't actually hate trans people or think they shouldn't be treated with respect. I just think he's ignorant about why those jokes are so harmful.
My issue was with all the people in the thread who were told why the jokes were so harmful, and instead of being honest and admitting they just didn't care, they tried to explain away why it wasn't actually harmful or try to gaslight us into thinking we didn't explain it. which we did, many times.
Dave Chappelle makes like hundreds of jokes every show. And you don't like one or two of those, cry me a fucking river.
He's not ignorant he's making comedy.
Like when he joked about being in-line with Trump voters or joked about cops shooting black people, gingers and/or #metoo.
No one went crying to the internet over any of it.
But oh boy, I'm 'personally' mentioned in one of his jokes. I must run to the internet and demand an apology, I'm entitled to it and no one can like his show because I'm offended.
And the most stupid dumbfuck part of modern society: "Wow, that must be so offensive to [insert other group]"
Like Bill Maher said, no one cares or is offended except for the same three people ruining it for the rest of us.
You just don't get it. And you don't want to. Shame on you.
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Cream, you're more interesting to read on The Bore than Reset. On Reset you're are super annoying. I guess the heavy moderation just kills the natural flow of conversations, which can be heated.
This is true. If Cream posted like this on ERA we wouldn't have been mining his posts for mockery.
Which forum is hostile now? The one that allows for (an secretly supports) bigotry or the one that causes good men to spaz out and revert to primitive shit flinging?
Is the post sarcastic? He has accused almost everyone he argued with of bigotry and aside from a couple of decent posts he has been consistently arguing against strawmen... when he's not genuinely misunderstanding people's points.
I'll be honest. I've been reading about 5% of what they are talking about. But from what I've seen the debate has more weight behind it than the crap on era. At least Cream is trying to explain why she feels it's bigoted instead of just saying "No, Stop that. You are bad," getting 10 people to quote her.
I will summarize Cream's entire post history in one line:
"He's bigoted. You're bigoted. What you said is bigoted. MODS HELP! Jfc! You don't understand how it it to be me! ME ME ME ME ME ME ME! Oh the mods aren't helping? They're bigoted.
Either this is a good troll or the biggest distinguished mentally-challenged fellow on the planet and he certainly doesn't deserve people taking zer seriously. Don't get me wrong I like him here but let's not pretend this distinguished mentally-challenged fellow can carry a conversation. C'mon try to actually argue with him, I can guarantee he'll eventually call you a bigot or what you said bigoted. This is how these distinguished mentally-challenged fellows only know how to """"argue"""".
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He's not infallible. His transphobic jokes were incredibly harmful unfunny disgusting garbage. But I know Chappelle doesn't actually hate trans people or think they shouldn't be treated with respect. I just think he's ignorant about why those jokes are so harmful.
You just don't get it. And you don't want to. Shame on you.
What harm? Tell me what to get. You think people watch Dave Chappelle's standup and think "lets go beat up transgender people"? Or that hearing those jokes influences them to be more prejudiced towards transgender people? Give me a fucking break.
The concern most people seem to raise is that a transgender person might hear the the jokes Chappelle does and think "he's making fun of people like me" and get sad. The problem with that argument is that their negative reaction to Dave's material is not something Dave can control. If you don't like a certain sense of humour, no-one is forcing you to stick around.
Either this is a good troll or the biggest distinguished mentally-challenged fellow on the planet and he certainly doesn't deserve people taking zer seriously.
How dare you imply Cream is good at something, you fucking moron.
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Controversial opinion, but
thehunter16 > Cream
Is it really?
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7014/6605327319_419a2d6787.jpg)
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If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole.
Change "asshole" to "biggot" and "you" to "Cream" and it still works...
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You think people watch Dave Chappelle's standup and think "lets go beat up transgender people"? Or that hearing those jokes influences them to be more prejudiced towards transgender people?
YES YOU FUCKING IDIOT
What part of “58.7% of gender non-conforming students have received verbal harassment for their gender expression, compared to 29% of their peers” and “50% of trans people have been assaulted or raped by a romantic partner” and “80% of trans students feel unsafe in school” and “41% of trans people have attempted suicide” do you not understand?
How can you sit here, on this forum full of people who constantly champion how people should be able to make all the jokes they want while also COINCIDENTALLY being full of people that make anti-trans jokes and tell me that hearing anti-trans jokes especially by a WORLD-FAMOUS COMEDIAN does not influence people?
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He's not infallible. His transphobic jokes were incredibly harmful unfunny disgusting garbage. But I know Chappelle doesn't actually hate trans people or think they shouldn't be treated with respect. I just think he's ignorant about why those jokes are so harmful.
You just don't get it. And you don't want to. Shame on you.
What harm? Tell me what to get. You think people watch Dave Chappelle's standup and think "lets go beat up transgender people"? Or that hearing those jokes influences them to be more prejudiced towards transgender people? Give me a fucking break.
The concern most people seem to raise is that a transgender person might hear the the jokes Chappelle does and think "he's making fun of people like me" and get sad. The problem with that argument is that their negative reaction to Dave's material is not something Dave can control. If you don't like a certain sense of humour, no-one is forcing you to stick around.
Either this is a good troll or the biggest distinguished mentally-challenged fellow on the planet and he certainly doesn't deserve people taking zer seriously.
How dare you imply Cream is good at something, you fucking moron.
This is such a mean post. You're being very mean to someone who was nice to you.
Thanks Transhuman for correctly gendering, and generally being on the right side.
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He's not infallible. His transphobic jokes were incredibly harmful unfunny disgusting garbage. But I know Chappelle doesn't actually hate trans people or think they shouldn't be treated with respect. I just think he's ignorant about why those jokes are so harmful.
You just don't get it. And you don't want to. Shame on you.
What harm? Tell me what to get. You think people watch Dave Chappelle's standup and think "lets go beat up transgender people"? Or that hearing those jokes influences them to be more prejudiced towards transgender people? Give me a fucking break.
The concern most people seem to raise is that a transgender person might hear the the jokes Chappelle does and think "he's making fun of people like me" and get sad. The problem with that argument is that their negative reaction to Dave's material is not something Dave can control. If you don't like a certain sense of humour, no-one is forcing you to stick around.
Either this is a good troll or the biggest distinguished mentally-challenged fellow on the planet and he certainly doesn't deserve people taking zer seriously.
How dare you imply Cream is good at something, you fucking moron.
This is such a mean post. You're being very mean to someone who was nice to you.
Thanks Transhuman for correctly gendering, and generally being on the right side.
Go fuck yourself you disingenuous transphobic piece of shit. You’re a gaslighting asshole.
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Controversial opinion, but
thehunter16 > Cream
Is it really?
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7014/6605327319_419a2d6787.jpg)
Many here seem to have warmed to Cream, but hunter is almost universally reviled. Even though hunter at his worst is a bit of a try hard liberal, but overall a coherent poster and not a bloviating drama queen like Cream is.
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And btw my opinion is that people like Cream with severe mental issues should deal with those issues first before deciding their "identity" or demanding from everyone to accept it. I know the otherkin bullshit is the result of attention whoring teenage tumblr girls but amongst them there are actually some people with serious mental issues.
I think Cindy was right, the morons and the crazies have made a mockery of being trans and a line should be drawn. Also, mental health care professionals should do their fucking jobs instead of worrying about offending the snowflakes.
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Go fuck yourself you disingenuous transphobic piece of shit. You’re a gaslighting asshole.
:woody
Ceam is losing it.
I wonder if this zer has watched the recent Ricky Gervais special. :doge
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This is a great idea. Cream please watch the new Ricky Gervais special on Netflix and make a thread about it with your impressions.
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Go fuck yourself you disingenuous transphobic piece of shit. You’re a gaslighting asshole.
This is absolutely fine, it's cathartic, it's sentiment that non-binary people NEED to be able to let out in a safe space like the bore which lacks both the consequences of the real world and those of resetera. We're big enough to take it here. If this means one less outburst at someone in real life, so much the better. We're here for you.
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Go fuck yourself you disingenuous transphobic piece of shit. You’re a gaslighting asshole.
This is absolutely fine, it's cathartic, it's sentiment that non-binary people NEED to be able to let out in a safe space like the bore which lacks both the consequences of the real world and those of resetera. We're big enough to take it here. If this means one less outburst at someone in real life, so much the better. We're here for you.
What the fuck is wrong with you? Why the fuck are you doing this to me? You’re a monster
I completely see through all of your bullshit you sociopathic troll
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(https://i.imgur.com/Scz1ogw.jpg)
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Cream, take a deep breath and step away from the computer. No one is doing anything to you. This is a forum where people shitpost and troll each other for fun. If someone can upset you so greatly by posting a few words on a forum, maybe you need to take a break from reading forums, or from the internet in general.
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FWIW, I'm in agreement with you Cream. You're right to not want to be portrayed as a punchline or a freak by the media. And you're right, stuff like Chapelle's jokes do have an impact -- 20 years ago trans jokes were everywhere and it wasn't good. Nobody batted an eye to Ace Ventura. I think we're on a better path in looking to treat those people like human beings.
The black victim-complex shit is wack, though.
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Thehunter > Cream > Agrajag > Stro > Etiolate > Assimilate
Why is etiolate better than assimilate. I skim over their crap but they seem the same.
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thehunter16>Optimus>Cream>Assimilate>Jack Remington>Hillary Clinton
Fixed it for you biatch
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Can we discuss heavy cream vs whipping cream vs clotted cream vs Creme fraiche ?
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Wrong thread
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C'mon, let's not compare ourselves with war criminals, our shitposting isn't THAT bad.
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Etiolate = Assimilate = Optimus
Right?
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Thehunter > Cream > Agrajag > Stro > Etiolate > Assimilate
A pile of dog shit> jack remington
:playa
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Can we discuss heavy cream vs whipping cream vs clotted cream vs Creme fraiche ?
Clotted cream has been on my to do list since the Food Wishes video. Why does it barely exist ??? Never seen it before. It sounds delicious :drool
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Can we discuss heavy cream vs whipping cream vs clotted cream vs Creme fraiche ?
Clotted cream has been on my to do list since the Food Wishes video. Why does it barely exist ??? Never seen it before. It sounds delicious :drool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tzUrtJAZcc#t=19m49s
They say it's the condensed milk of it's time.
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Can we discuss heavy cream vs whipping cream vs clotted cream vs Creme fraiche ?
Clotted cream has been on my to do list since the Food Wishes video. Why does it barely exist ??? Never seen it before. It sounds delicious :drool
I’ve actually never bothered to buy it; maybe I should... it’s readily available at my base’s grocery store, oddly enough.
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Why do you think that? :thinking
It doesn't fit with the rest of the pizza toppings. It just doesn't. I'm not opposed to Pineapple or hell Pineapple by itself on a pizza (with maybe some cheese or something that doesn't have it be a radical change from the rest of the palate), it just doesn't work with Bell peppers, Pepperoni, Mushrooms, Spinach, etc. (onions which depend on the pizza really).
I've had some "Pacific" pizza that have thrown Spinach in that have made be a believer in it (it did black olives, spinach [baby I think?], cheese, and I think pepperoni or excluded that). I have yet to find a pizza with Pineapple included with other toppings that made me go "yeah, that's a good addition to the rest of it."
Maybe "always" is too strong a word. But I don't think Pineapple on a pizza with other stuff works. Now Pineapple with something like Ham? :ohyeah Thinking on it, Pineapple with Ham/Canadian Bacon(?) on a pizza could maybe work.
Controversial opinion, but
thehunter16 > Cream
Is it really?
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7014/6605327319_419a2d6787.jpg)
Many here seem to have warmed to Cream, but hunter is almost universally reviled. Even though hunter at his worst is a bit of a try hard liberal, but overall a coherent poster and not a bloviating drama queen like Cream is.
Just caught this. I don't necessarily mind Cream, but it's whole gimmick is just "ugh."
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I didn’t even realize anyone disliked Hunter.
Who the fuck is hunter?
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nicca even the mods dislike Hunter :ufup
Huelen >>>>>>> Jack & Cream
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I didn’t even realize anyone disliked Hunter.
Cream's butthole after being taken hard by a BBC > Jack Remington > Hunter
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Controversial opinion, but
thehunter16 > Cream
Lol is this even a contest hahaha
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nicca even the mods dislike Hunter :ufup
Huelen >>>>>>> Jack & Cream
Um, what is this for? I'm scared!
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I didn’t even realize anyone disliked Hunter.
Cream's butthole after being taken hard by a BBC > Jack Remington > Hunter
Damn it you won me back.
It’s poetry.
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I’m also curious about our opinions on other important issues, like ass to mouth: always or never?
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Cream is constantly offending me by taking the Lord's name in vain but God forbid you say anything that doesn't 100% fit with his/her beliefs and you will be labelled and derided.
Just remember:
People will always try to force you to be a certain way, and antagonize and limit you if you don’t or CANT conform.
Which is why you KEEP fighting. You don't GIVE UP.
How many times do you have to be told that transgenderism isn't a fucking choice before you believe it?
"You don't need the label."
This is what someone says when they have absolutely no idea what they are talking about.
Why do you keep coming back here? Nobody likes you. Now skitter off you useless waste of oxygen.
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Cream is constantly offending me by taking the Lord's name in vain but God forbid you say anything that doesn't 100% fit with his/her beliefs and you will be labelled and derided.
Just remember:
People will always try to force you to be a certain way, and antagonize and limit you if you don’t or CANT conform.
Which is why you KEEP fighting. You don't GIVE UP.
How many times do you have to be told that transgenderism isn't a fucking choice before you believe it?
"You don't need the label."
This is what someone says when they have absolutely no idea what they are talking about.
Why do you keep coming back here? Nobody likes you. Now skitter off you useless waste of oxygen.
Spoken like a true lying pedophile, A_I_A. Please go away, you coward. Don’t you have some children to fuck?
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Cream is constantly offending me by taking the Lord's name in vain but God forbid you say anything that doesn't 100% fit with his/her beliefs and you will be labelled and derided.
Just remember:
People will always try to force you to be a certain way, and antagonize and limit you if you don’t or CANT conform.
Which is why you KEEP fighting. You don't GIVE UP.
How many times do you have to be told that transgenderism isn't a fucking choice before you believe it?
"You don't need the label."
This is what someone says when they have absolutely no idea what they are talking about.
Why do you keep coming back here? Nobody likes you. Now skitter off you useless waste of oxygen.
Spoken like a true lying pedophile, A_I_A. Please go away, you coward. Don’t you have some children to fuck?
Eh?
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Cream is constantly offending me by taking the Lord's name in vain but God forbid you say anything that doesn't 100% fit with his/her beliefs and you will be labelled and derided.
Just remember:
People will always try to force you to be a certain way, and antagonize and limit you if you don’t or CANT conform.
Which is why you KEEP fighting. You don't GIVE UP.
How many times do you have to be told that transgenderism isn't a fucking choice before you believe it?
"You don't need the label."
This is what someone says when they have absolutely no idea what they are talking about.
Why do you keep coming back here? Nobody likes you. Now skitter off you useless waste of oxygen.
Spoken like a true lying pedophile, A_I_A. Please go away, you coward. Don’t you have some children to fuck?
Eh?
True Cowardice. Mandark would be proud.
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Depends on the donkey, i suppose.
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Controversial opinion, but
thehunter16 > Cream
Cream finally made the garbage thread readable again and you pathetic fucks can't stop complaining about it. This is exactly like what they did to Jesus.
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The Father- Jack Remington
The Son- Cream
The Holy Ghost- Filler
edit: wait I totally forgot recursivelyrenumerable is the holy ghost
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It's interesting to note that Remington passes judgement when his favorable audience is solely a 16 year old cool young dude. :doge
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This is a great idea. Cream please watch the new Ricky Gervais special on Netflix and make a thread about it with your impressions.
Of course Optimus likes Ricky Gervais's standup. It's a perfect fit.
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You think people watch Dave Chappelle's standup and think "lets go beat up transgender people"? Or that hearing those jokes influences them to be more prejudiced towards transgender people?
YES YOU FUCKING IDIOT
What part of “58.7% of gender non-conforming students have received verbal harassment for their gender expression, compared to 29% of their peers” and “50% of trans people have been assaulted or raped by a romantic partner” and “80% of trans students feel unsafe in school” and “41% of trans people have attempted suicide” do you not understand?
How can you sit here, on this forum full of people who constantly champion how people should be able to make all the jokes they want while also COINCIDENTALLY being full of people that make anti-trans jokes and tell me that hearing anti-trans jokes especially by a WORLD-FAMOUS COMEDIAN does not influence people?
If Dave Chappelle singled out trans people in his shows and did like an entire 'let's make fun of transgenders' comedy special you'd maybe have a point.
But he didn't. He just takes the hot button issues of current times (Trump, transgenders, people being offended easily, Hollywood) and writes material based on those subjects.
It doesn't matter to a bully or rapist whether or not Dave Chappelle made a joke.
Also it's better to keep the issue on the agenda and have comedians joke about it. Because:
- It turns mainstream and that actually increases acceptance
- It keeps the issue on the agenda so it doesn't get ignored
Sure, we can remove transgenders and transgender jokes from all media because someone could be offended.
And the easiest way for Dave is to just ignore you lot and joke about other things so you stop complaining.
More or less a 'don't ask, don't tell' sort of thing or you join the rest of society and take the jokes that come with it.
Everyone gets shit on from time to time, no need to get all uptight about it.
I mean, I can look-up statistics on how boys with glasses get bullied 88% more than boys without glasses but that doesn't do anything to fix my shitty eye sight and having no funny characters with glasses in comedy does not change how I got treated by high school peers either.
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Controversial opinion, but
thehunter16 > Cream
Cream finally made the garbage thread readable again and you pathetic fucks can't stop complaining about it. This is exactly like what they did to Jesus.
He made it readable?
:heh
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I, for one, would like to see a thread where cream watches the entire blossom series.
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This is a great idea. Cream please watch the new Ricky Gervais special on Netflix and make a thread about it with your impressions.
Of course Optimus likes Ricky Gervais's standup. It's a perfect fit.
Honest question, why do you think it's a perfect fit?
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aia crawling out of the dirt to bless this thread is hilarious
how's the new baby going? Save the marriage?
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You think people watch Dave Chappelle's standup and think "lets go beat up transgender people"? Or that hearing those jokes influences them to be more prejudiced towards transgender people?
YES YOU FUCKING IDIOT
What part of “58.7% of gender non-conforming students have received verbal harassment for their gender expression, compared to 29% of their peers” and “50% of trans people have been assaulted or raped by a romantic partner” and “80% of trans students feel unsafe in school” and “41% of trans people have attempted suicide” do you not understand?
How can you sit here, on this forum full of people who constantly champion how people should be able to make all the jokes they want while also COINCIDENTALLY being full of people that make anti-trans jokes and tell me that hearing anti-trans jokes especially by a WORLD-FAMOUS COMEDIAN does not influence people?
If Dave Chappelle singled out trans people in his shows and did like an entire 'let's make fun of transgenders' comedy special you'd maybe have a point.
But he didn't. He just takes the hot button issues of current times (Trump, transgenders, people being offended easily, Hollywood) and writes material based on those subjects.
It doesn't matter to a bully or rapist whether or not Dave Chappelle made a joke.
Also it's better to keep the issue on the agenda and have comedians joke about it. Because:
- It turns mainstream and that actually increases acceptance
- It keeps the issue on the agenda so it doesn't get ignored
Sure, we can remove transgenders and transgender jokes from all media because someone could be offended.
And the easiest way for Dave is to just ignore you lot and joke about other things so you stop complaining.
More or less a 'don't ask, don't tell' sort of thing or you join the rest of society and take the jokes that come with it.
Everyone gets shit on from time to time, no need to get all uptight about it.
I mean, I can look-up statistics on how boys with glasses get bullied 88% more than boys without glasses but that doesn't do anything to fix my shitty eye sight and having no funny characters with glasses in comedy does not change how I got treated by high school peers either.
Wtf boys with glasses? You people are crazy with your nonsense comparisons. I don’t see anyone killing themselves for having to wear glasses.
Wearing glasses won’t get you denied jobs. Adults don’t get beaten or killed for wearing glasses. Parents don’t disown their children for having to wear glasses. People who wear glasses aren’t called crazy.
I wear glasses! It’s fucking meaningless. NOTHING compared to how hard it is to be trans. Can you honestly say having to wear glasses has negatively affected your adult life in any meaningful way? I wear glasses every single fucking day.
I would thank god if all I had to worry about was fucking glasses.
What is this board’s fixation on “all problems people have should be treated exactly the same.” This is some all lives matter shit.
Ace Ventura having disgusting hurtful transphobic comedy didn’t increase acceptance. People laughed at it and didn’t see any problem. Acceptance grew from having access to more knowledge about trans people, the internet giving trans people more of a voice and some celebrities getting that voice out there as well.
This like saying “blackface made us like black people MORE, so it’s okay.”
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yo don't lump 'this board' in with the select handful of losers you choose to solely engage and interact with. no one is putting a gun to your head here
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Wtf boys with glasses? You people are crazy with your nonsense comparisons. I don’t see anyone killing themselves for having to wear glasses.
Wearing glasses won’t get you denied jobs. Adults don’t get beaten or killed for wearing glasses. Parents don’t disown their children for having to wear glasses. People who wear glasses aren’t called crazy.
I wear glasses! It’s fucking meaningless. NOTHING compared to how hard it is to be trans.
What is this board’s fixation on “all problems people have should be treated exactly the same.” This is some all lives matter shit.
It's an example you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow, not a direct comparison to trans people. The point is that everyone has a disadvantage either small or big, if we start censoring comedy based on disadvantages where do we stop given how many snowflakes like you exist nowadays and get offended with EVERYTHING?
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Wtf boys with glasses? You people are crazy with your nonsense comparisons. I don’t see anyone killing themselves for having to wear glasses.
Wearing glasses won’t get you denied jobs. Adults don’t get beaten or killed for wearing glasses. Parents don’t disown their children for having to wear glasses. People who wear glasses aren’t called crazy.
I wear glasses! It’s fucking meaningless. NOTHING compared to how hard it is to be trans.
What is this board’s fixation on “all problems people have should be treated exactly the same.” This is some all lives matter shit.
It's an example you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow, not a direct comparison to trans people. The point is that everyone has a disadvantage either small or big, if we start censoring comedy based on disadvantages where do we stop given how many snowflakes like you exist nowadays and get offended with EVERYTHING?
How about the jokes that actually LEAD to people being treated as less than people, and death?
But you seem like the type of guy to defend blackface so I’m not sure why I’m even trying to explain anything to you.
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Wtf boys with glasses? You people are crazy with your nonsense comparisons. I don’t see anyone killing themselves for having to wear glasses.
Wearing glasses won’t get you denied jobs. Adults don’t get beaten or killed for wearing glasses. Parents don’t disown their children for having to wear glasses. People who wear glasses aren’t called crazy.
I wear glasses! It’s fucking meaningless. NOTHING compared to how hard it is to be trans.
What is this board’s fixation on “all problems people have should be treated exactly the same.” This is some all lives matter shit.
It's an example you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow, not a direct comparison to trans people. The point is that everyone has a disadvantage either small or big, if we start censoring comedy based on disadvantages where do we stop given how many snowflakes like you exist nowadays and get offended with EVERYTHING?
How about the jokes that actually LEAD to people being treated as less than people, and death?
But you seem like the type of guy to defend blackface so I’m not sure why I’m even trying to explain anything to you.
Which particular Chappelle joke LEAD to people being treated as less than people? Stop with the vague hyperbolic bullshit and be specific.
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Wtf boys with glasses? You people are crazy with your nonsense comparisons. I don’t see anyone killing themselves for having to wear glasses.
Wearing glasses won’t get you denied jobs. Adults don’t get beaten or killed for wearing glasses. Parents don’t disown their children for having to wear glasses. People who wear glasses aren’t called crazy.
I wear glasses! It’s fucking meaningless. NOTHING compared to how hard it is to be trans.
What is this board’s fixation on “all problems people have should be treated exactly the same.” This is some all lives matter shit.
It's an example you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow, not a direct comparison to trans people. The point is that everyone has a disadvantage either small or big, if we start censoring comedy based on disadvantages where do we stop given how many snowflakes like you exist nowadays and get offended with EVERYTHING?
How about the jokes that actually LEAD to people being treated as less than people, and death?
But you seem like the type of guy to defend blackface so I’m not sure why I’m even trying to explain anything to you.
Which particular Chappelle joke LEAD to people being treated as less than people? Stop with the vague hyperbolic bullshit and be specific.
Well I could start with the fact that he completely ignores and erases the existence of black and other minority trans people. He’s trying to frame the incredibly minuscule “acceptance” of trans people as a white thing, and this is true, but he does it by literally erasing the existence of PoC that are trans. The black community has enough problems with hatred of trans people. Black trans women are killed more than any other. And yes, a beloved comedian erasing their existence does contribute further to a society that also erases their existance. People like Kiwi Herring and Marsha P. Johnson and Janet Mock and Laverne Cox who I actually met a few days ago, don’t exist to Chappelle and thanks to him, a few more people don’t think they exist now. These women were fighting for trans acceptance long before Caitlyn Jenner was.
this millionaire record-breaking comic stands of stage, watched by millions of people, mocking trans struggles while acting like they aren’t as dire as they are. Trans people are killed at also literally record breaking numbers every year! 75 out of 102 trans people killed in the last five years were black! According to Chappelle, didn’t happen. Trans people shouldnt TALK about trans issues around black people, according to him.
Dave Chappelle is not responsible for the legal, physical and emotional siege laid to transgender people of color’s very existence. But launching context-adverse tirades that diminish their real demands for a better world and ignore Black trans people’s centrality to anti-racist police reform movements risks actual harm.
He should ask himself why no trans comedian has achieved anywhere close to his level of fame. The other communities he takes shots at in these newest specials—Asians, Latinx people, other LGBTQ individuals, women—boast nationally-renowned comedians who can offer their own narratives in televised specials. Trans comedians of color remain largely invisible in an entertainment world that sees them as punchlines and not punchline-makers.
And Amy Schumer is world famous and has tons of fans. So the “maybe none of them are funny.” argument doesn’t really work.
Chappelle’s jokes broadcast assumptions to millions of people who may never get to see a transgender comedian offer a counternarrative about why they’re not entitled complainers. Because no one ever listens to us, ever.
Trans people laugh at themselves and their predicament amongst themselves and other trans people all the time. But the way Chappelle goes about it is dehumanizing and harmful in a world where trans people struggle, incredibly hard to have a fraction of the rights other groups have.
People who hurt transgender people were already pieces of shit to begin with and a few jokes on a Netflix special wouldn’t push them over the edge.
But if you recognize that comedy, like all forms of media, plays an undeniable role in shaping our culture, then you know how morally disingenuous it is to claim that holding a microphone on a stage gives you free reign to mock an already-brutalized minority.
He reassurance his audience that it isn’t gay that he fooled around with a trans woman because “he only titty fucked her”. So anything more would be gay, and thus ew and wrong?
Besides that. It’s not even fucking funny or original! “Man in a dress?” “Hairy knuckles”? “manly voices”? This is bottom the barrel shit comedy from a guy that’s supposed to be a comedy legend. I’ve heard more original anti-trans jokes on the bore.
So trying to use the defense of him just being a comedian trying to be funny and do his art gets flushed down the toilet when his art sucks and isnt original and doesn’t have any unique thought to it.
If you’re going to mock me for things I can’t control then at least make it clever and well written.
Dave Chappelle HIMSELF has openly admitted to the uncomfortable feeling he got from doing such racist stereotypes on the Chappelle Show as contributing to his decision to leave:
… a sketch about magic pixies that embody stereotypes about the races. The black pixie—played by Chappelle—wears blackface and tries to convince blacks to act in stereotypical ways. Chappelle thought the sketch was funny, the kind of thing his friends would laugh at. But at the taping, one spectator, a white man, laughed particularly loud and long. His laughter struck Chappelle as wrong, and he wondered if the new season of his show had gone from sending up stereotypes to merely reinforcing them. "When he laughed, it made me uncomfortable," says Chappelle. "As a matter of fact, that was the last thing I shot before I told myself I gotta take f______ time out after this. Because my head almost exploded."
Chris Rock once had what was one of the most brilliantly written routines ever, a reflection about black culture called “Ni**as vs. Black People.” While it’s still considered one of the best-written bits ever, Rock has sworn never to do it again because it gave license to people to espouse racism by using his words out of context.
I’m more offended that Chappelle completely fails to self-reflect at all, that his trans material is unfunny cliche trash, and he seems content to remain in his ignorance and hypocrisy while getting “hurt” that the trans community has a problem with him cause he says he’s apparently “cool with them.”
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Trans people are killed at also literally record breaking numbers every year!
In 2017, 25 transgendered people were killed in America. The year before that 23, and the year before that 22. You make it sound like transgendered people are being targeted and murdered en masse for being trans. That's not the reality we're living in.
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Trans people are killed at also literally record breaking numbers every year!
In 2017, 25 transgendered people were killed in America. The year before that 23, and the year before that 22. You make it sound like transgendered people are being targeted and murdered en masse for being trans. That's not the reality we're living in.
Yeah I mean it’s not like they almost got denied from serving in the military, have to deal with bathroom bills in multiples states, and 50% of trans people have been assaulted or raped by a romantic partner. Totally not targeted at all.
The number is going UP and you’re trying to tell me we should focus on the problem LESS?
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Trans people are killed at also literally record breaking numbers every year!
In 2017, 25 transgendered people were killed in America. The year before that 23, and the year before that 22. You make it sound like transgendered people are being targeted and murdered en masse for being trans. That's not the reality we're living in.
Yeah I mean it’s not like they almost got denied from serving in the military, have to deal with bathroom bills in multiples states, and 50% of trans people have been assaulted or raped by a romantic partner. Totally not targeted at all.
The number is going UP and you’re trying to tell me we should focus on the problem LESS?
Again, you said that murder rates of trans people are breaking records every year. Did you also know that murder rates in general are going up each year in America, at a higher rate than trans related murders?
And I never said we should focus on the "problem" less, I am insinuating that you are making a mountain out of a molehill.
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Trans people are killed at also literally record breaking numbers every year!
In 2017, 25 transgendered people were killed in America. The year before that 23, and the year before that 22. You make it sound like transgendered people are being targeted and murdered en masse for being trans. That's not the reality we're living in.
Yeah I mean it’s not like they almost got denied from serving in the military, have to deal with bathroom bills in multiples states, and 50% of trans people have been assaulted or raped by a romantic partner. Totally not targeted at all.
The number is going UP and you’re trying to tell me we should focus on the problem LESS?
Again, you said that murder rates of trans people are breaking records every year. Did you also know that murder rates in general are going up each year in America, at a higher rate than trans related murders?
And I never said we should focus on the "problem" less, I am insinuating that you are making a mountain out of a molehill.
Putting quotes around problem reveals how you feel about this.
According to the most recent FBI data available, an estimated 15,696 murders occurred in the United States in 2015, or 4.9 murders per 100,000 people. And while this was the highest murder rate in six years (compared to a range of 4.4 to 4.8 murders per 100,000 each year since 2009, when the figure was 5 per 100,000), it’s less than half the historical high of 10.2 in 1980.
FBI statistics show, in fact, that the 2015 murder rate was among the lowest of the past 47 years, and indeed the lowest of any year between 1965 and 2009.
“Mountain out of a molehill”?! How can you be so fucking callous about this?
More than a third of all transgender people in the UK have been victims of a hate crime in the past 12 months, according to new research.
Campaigners believe the statistics could be the "tip of the iceberg" with the majority of victims not feeling safe in reporting their experiences to the authorities.
LGBT charity Stonewall is now calling for a full review into hate crime legislation saying that it falls behind on trans and other LGBT issues.
Stonewall says two in five (41 per cent) of trans people have experienced a hate crime because of their gender identity in the past 12 months, with that figure shooting up to 53 per cent for young trans people aged between 18 and 24.
The new research conducted by YouGov on behalf of the charity, also found that four in five (79 per cent) of trans people did not report their crimes due to a perceived lack of support or fear of further discrimination.
Trans people are twice as likely to be victim of a hate crime than other members of the LGBT community, with Stonewall reporting that one in five LGBT people overall have experienced a hate crime in the past year.
Figures also show that the volume of transphobic hate crime referrals from the police decreased by 11 per cent from 98 in 2015-2016 to 87 in 2016-2017.
Charlie Craggs, a leading trans activist, author and founder of the Nail Transphobia group, told The Independent she had "lost count" of the number of times she and her trans friends had experienced a hate crime but not reported it.
"There's no much faith in the police within our community," she said. "They have a history of transphobia and having to go to a police station and be misgendered, judged or treated like you brought this on yourself is the last thing you feel like doing. It's not like much is going to happen to the person who did attack you, anyway."
And in America:
Transgender people, especially transgender women of color, continue to be targeted in vicious attacks all throughout this country. The simple act of walking down the street is cause for real fear and anti-transgender political rhetoric only serves to embolden those who harass and intimidate people simply because of who they are,” said HRC President Chad Griffin. “The tragic impact of hate crimes is felt by families, friends and entire communities, creating fear and instability that ripple across the country. With a wave of bias-motivated harassment in the wake of the recent election, HRC will continue to push for more accurate reporting of hate crimes to the FBI so that we truly understand the full scope of the violence.”
Current statistics only provide a partial snapshot of hate crimes in America because reporting these incidents to the FBI is not mandatory. In fact, while the number of hate crimes reported increased from 2015 to 2014, the number of jurisdictions reporting decreased from 15,494 to 14,997.
Thousands of law enforcement agencies across the country did not submit data – including jurisdictions with populations of more than 250,000 people. The vast majority (88%) of the agencies that did participate reported zero hate crimes. This means that law enforcement in those participating agencies – including cities with large populations – affirmatively reported to the FBI that no hate crime incidents occurred in their jurisdictions. Approximately 3,400 jurisdictions failed to report any data, including 21 cities with populations with over 100,000 people.
The 2011 National Transgender Discrimination Survey found that kids in grades K-12 who identified as transgender or gender non-conforming reported high rates of bullying and violence at school: 78 percent reported harassment, 35 percent reported physical assault, and 12 percent reported sexual violence. Even more disturbing is the fact that, for 31 percent of these kids and teens, harassment came at the hands of teachers and school staff.
A 2013 report from the National Coalition of Anti-Violence Programs (NCAVP) found that transgender people are at a higher risk of homicide than other LGBTQ people. In 2013, trans victims and survivors made up 13 percent of anti-LGBTQ hate violence reports to the NCAVP, and yet transgender women made up 72 percent of anti-LGBTQ homicide victims. Trans women of color — who accounted for 67 percent of anti-LGBTQ homicide victims — were particularly at risk.
The NCAVP report found that trans people are 3.7 times more likely to experience police violence than cisgender survivors and victims of anti-LGBT violence. The risk is higher for trans women, who are four times more likely than other survivors to have experienced police violence.
The 2011 National Transgender Discrimination Survey describes harassment at work as “a near universal experience” for transgender and gender non-conforming employees, with 90 percent of respondents reporting that they had been harassed at work or forced to take “protective actions” (like hiding their gender identity) in order to avoid harassment.
Forty-seven percent of respondents said that they had experienced “an adverse job action” (such as not getting hired or promoted, or being fired) due to their being trans or gender nonconforming. Twenty-six percent reported losing their jobs because of their gender status, with a significantly higher rate of job loss for trans people of color.
The unemployment rate among trans people is twice the national average, and 44 percent of trans people report being underemployed — key issues that lead to high rates of poverty among trans people.
The 2011 National Transgender Discrimination Survey found that trans people are four times more likely than the general population to have an annual income of less than $10,000.
Trans people experience homelessness at a rate of twice the national average; at the same time, they are less than half as likely to own a home as the average American. Housing discrimination is a major problem, according to the National Transgender Discrimination Survey, with 19 percent of trans people saying that they have been refused housing and 11 percent saying they’ve been evicted due to being transgender or gender non-conforming.
Forty-one percent of the trans respondents to the National Transgender Discrimination Survey said that they had attempted suicide at some point in their lives — a percentage that is more than 25 times higher than that of the general population. Trans people who experienced housing discrimination, job discrimination, rejection by their families, bullying in school, physical violence, or sexual assault had an even higher rate of suicide attempts.
Tellingly, a report by the Williams Institute found that trans people who are able to maintain strong relationships with their families after coming out have a much lower suicide rate of 33 percent (which is, granted, still much higher than the national average)
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He’s trying to frame the incredibly minuscule “acceptance” of trans people as a white thing, and this is true, but he does it by literally erasing the existence of PoC that are trans.
Comedian bases his comedy on social observations, news at 11. And not only that but you admit that these observations are true, which is even more hilarious. But... but... basing your comedy on truths is racist and transphobic. Btw this is the only legitimate point I managed to salvage from that awful rant of yours.
Iirc regarding the man in a dress part, he's joke was that a man in a dress looks funny no matter what. Yes Cream, a man in a dress is funny for a myriad number of reasons. People don't see a dude in a dress and say, "Hey Steve great dress dude". They laugh because it's awkward, different and strange and your bitching won't change that.
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He’s trying to frame the incredibly minuscule “acceptance” of trans people as a white thing, and this is true, but he does it by literally erasing the existence of PoC that are trans.
Comedian bases his comedy on social observations, news at 11. And not only that but you admit that these observations are true, which is even more hilarious. But... but... basing your comedy on truths is racist and transphobic. Btw this is the only legitimate point I managed to salvage from that awful rant of yours.
Iirc regarding the man in a dress part, he's joke was that a man in a dress looks funny no matter what. Yes Cream, a man in a dress is funny for a myriad number of reasons. People don't see a dude in a dress and say, "Hey Steve great dress dude". They laugh because it's awkward, different and strange and your bitching won't change that.
I said that SINGLE observation was true, but everything else he said is complete bullshit. I see you completely glossed over everything I said about his erasure of trans people of color, and his hypocrisy of feeling uncomfortable with white prople laughing at black stereotypes.
And if “Man in a dress” is all you need for a laugh, you have a shit sense of humor.
I’m not friends with anyone who thinks that shit is worthy of mockery. The people in my life are accepting and aren’t so sensitive that someone biologically male wearing female clothing is “weird” to them.
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I have noticed something.
Since Cream's usual Orwellian method of shutting down discussion he doesn't like through censorship doesn't work in this forum he uses the Huxleylian method of spamming bullshit and burying the discussion under an avalanche of crap.
He's not smart enough to be doing it consciously but it works. I mean who's gonna dumpster dive in that latest clusterfuck of a post?
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I have noticed something.
Since Cream's usual Orwellian method of shutting down discussion he doesn't like through censorship doesn't work in this forum he uses the Huxleylian method of spamming bullshit and burying the discussion under an avalanche of crap.
He's not smart enough to be doing it consciously but it works. I mean who's gonna dumpster dive in that latest clusterfuck of a post?
That poster tried to tell me I’m “making a mountain out of a molehill.” I’m showing them many of the statistics that reveal how deep of a problem transphobia is.
Anyone being too lazy or apathetic to read them speaks poorly on them, not me.
We cant all put as little thought in our posts as you do
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He’s trying to frame the incredibly minuscule “acceptance” of trans people as a white thing, and this is true, but he does it by literally erasing the existence of PoC that are trans.
Comedian bases his comedy on social observations, news at 11. And not only that but you admit that these observations are true, which is even more hilarious. But... but... basing your comedy on truths is racist and transphobic. Btw this is the only legitimate point I managed to salvage from that awful rant of yours.
Iirc regarding the man in a dress part, he's joke was that a man in a dress looks funny no matter what. Yes Cream, a man in a dress is funny for a myriad number of reasons. People don't see a dude in a dress and say, "Hey Steve great dress dude". They laugh because it's awkward, different and strange and your bitching won't change that.
I said that SINGLE observation was true, but everything else he said is complete bullshit. I see you completely glossed over everything I said about his erasure of trans people of color, and his hypocrisy of feeling uncomfortable with white prople laughing at black stereotypes.
And if “Man in a dress” is all you need for a laugh, you have a shit sense of humor.
I’m not friends with anyone who thinks that shit is worthy of mockery. The people in my life are accepting and aren’t so sensitive that someone biologically male wearing female clothing is “weird” to them.
Comedy about stereotypes is one of the most common types of comedy you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow, almost all comedians make it pretty fucking clear that they don't really take these stereotypes seriously they just use them and exaggerate about them for comedic reasons.
Then again, I get how for humorless cunts like you that's impossible to understand.
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He’s trying to frame the incredibly minuscule “acceptance” of trans people as a white thing, and this is true, but he does it by literally erasing the existence of PoC that are trans.
Comedian bases his comedy on social observations, news at 11. And not only that but you admit that these observations are true, which is even more hilarious. But... but... basing your comedy on truths is racist and transphobic. Btw this is the only legitimate point I managed to salvage from that awful rant of yours.
Iirc regarding the man in a dress part, he's joke was that a man in a dress looks funny no matter what. Yes Cream, a man in a dress is funny for a myriad number of reasons. People don't see a dude in a dress and say, "Hey Steve great dress dude". They laugh because it's awkward, different and strange and your bitching won't change that.
I said that SINGLE observation was true, but everything else he said is complete bullshit. I see you completely glossed over everything I said about his erasure of trans people of color, and his hypocrisy of feeling uncomfortable with white prople laughing at black stereotypes.
And if “Man in a dress” is all you need for a laugh, you have a shit sense of humor.
I’m not friends with anyone who thinks that shit is worthy of mockery. The people in my life are accepting and aren’t so sensitive that someone biologically male wearing female clothing is “weird” to them.
Comedy about stereotypes is one of the most common types of comedy you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow, almost all comedian make it pretty fucking clear that they don't really take these stereotypes seriously they just use and exaggerate about them for comedic reasons.
Then again, I get how for humorless cunts like you that's impossible to understand.
Except I just gave you two examples of world famous comedians taking it seriously, when it was about stereotypes that negatively affect them.
But I get how taking anything seriously is impossible to understand for a sociopathic douchebag like you
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He’s trying to frame the incredibly minuscule “acceptance” of trans people as a white thing, and this is true, but he does it by literally erasing the existence of PoC that are trans.
Comedian bases his comedy on social observations, news at 11. And not only that but you admit that these observations are true, which is even more hilarious. But... but... basing your comedy on truths is racist and transphobic. Btw this is the only legitimate point I managed to salvage from that awful rant of yours.
Iirc regarding the man in a dress part, he's joke was that a man in a dress looks funny no matter what. Yes Cream, a man in a dress is funny for a myriad number of reasons. People don't see a dude in a dress and say, "Hey Steve great dress dude". They laugh because it's awkward, different and strange and your bitching won't change that.
I said that SINGLE observation was true, but everything else he said is complete bullshit. I see you completely glossed over everything I said about his erasure of trans people of color, and his hypocrisy of feeling uncomfortable with white prople laughing at black stereotypes.
And if “Man in a dress” is all you need for a laugh, you have a shit sense of humor.
I’m not friends with anyone who thinks that shit is worthy of mockery. The people in my life are accepting and aren’t so sensitive that someone biologically male wearing female clothing is “weird” to them.
Comedy about stereotypes is one of the most common types of comedy you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow, almost all comedian make it pretty fucking clear that they don't really take these stereotypes seriously they just use and exaggerate about them for comedic reasons.
Then again, I get how for humorless cunts like you that's impossible to understand.
Except I just gave you two examples of world famous comedians taking it seriously, when it was about stereotypes that negatively affect them.
But I get how taking anything seriously is impossible to understand for a sociopathic douchebag like you
You throw that word around a lot.
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I have noticed something.
Since Cream's usual Orwellian method of shutting down discussion he doesn't like through censorship doesn't work in this forum he uses the Huxleylian method of spamming bullshit and burying the discussion under an avalanche of crap.
He's not smart enough to be doing it consciously but it works. I mean who's gonna dumpster dive in that latest clusterfuck of a post?
That poster tried to tell me I’m “making a mountain out of a molehill.” I’m showing them many of the statistics that reveal how deep of a problem transphobia is.
Anyone being too lazy or apathetic to read them speaks poorly on them, not me.
We cant all put as little thought in our posts as you do
The only thing you're showing is your complete lack of understanding of how statistics work. We were talking about murders, but keep moving the goal posts.
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Except I just gave you two examples of world famous comedians taking it seriously, when it was about stereotypes that negatively affect them.
But I get how taking anything seriously is impossible to understand for a sociopathic douchebag like you
They didn't take it seriously you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow, they were worried about how it reflects on society which is fucking stupid but anyway. And that was probably under pressure from distinguished mentally-challenged fellows like you who constantly bitch about comedy.
Thankfully comedians are starting to ignore your bullshit and fighting back.
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I have noticed something.
Since Cream's usual Orwellian method of shutting down discussion he doesn't like through censorship doesn't work in this forum he uses the Huxleylian method of spamming bullshit and burying the discussion under an avalanche of crap.
He's not smart enough to be doing it consciously but it works. I mean who's gonna dumpster dive in that latest clusterfuck of a post?
That poster tried to tell me I’m “making a mountain out of a molehill.” I’m showing them many of the statistics that reveal how deep of a problem transphobia is.
Anyone being too lazy or apathetic to read them speaks poorly on them, not me.
We cant all put as little thought in our posts as you do
The only thing you're showing is your complete lack of understanding of how statistics work. We were talking about murders, but keep moving the goal posts.
goal posts?! Are you fucking serious?
This entire conversation is about how trans people are overwhelmingly targeted for harassment and abuse and murder is only ONE example. I just give you like 50 and you’re still trying to tell me that it’s not a big deal?
Do you have absolutely any comments about any of that data that’s more than “fake news”?
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Except I just gave you two examples of world famous comedians taking it seriously, when it was about stereotypes that negatively affect them.
But I get how taking anything seriously is impossible to understand for a sociopathic douchebag like you
They didn't take it seriously you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow, they were worried about how it reflects on society which is fucking stupid but anyway. And that was probably under pressure from distinguished mentally-challenged fellows like you who constantly bitch about comedy.
Thankfully comedians are starting to ignore your bullshit and fighting back.
Can you read? It said right there that Chris rock stopped doing the joke because he was worried about people using it to be racist towards blacks by taking his words out of context. He disowned the joke and doesn’t do it anymore.
And if you are going to call Chris Rock, the world famous millionaire esteemed comedian, stupid and wrong for doing that then you are claiming to know more than the comedian and claiming to know how they should be telling their jokes and absolutely nothing stops me from calling Dave Chappelle out as well.
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The only thing you're showing is your complete lack of understanding of how statistics work. We were talking about murders, but keep moving the goal posts.
Reeeeeeeee is just a ridiculous hugbox that they never challenged his "facts" about trans people being MURDERED LEFT AND RIGHT so he never actually knew he's spreading bullshit, that's why he's moving the goalposts to save face now.
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I have noticed something.
Since Cream's usual Orwellian method of shutting down discussion he doesn't like through censorship doesn't work in this forum he uses the Huxleylian method of spamming bullshit and burying the discussion under an avalanche of crap.
He's not smart enough to be doing it consciously but it works. I mean who's gonna dumpster dive in that latest clusterfuck of a post?
That poster tried to tell me I’m “making a mountain out of a molehill.” I’m showing them many of the statistics that reveal how deep of a problem transphobia is.
Anyone being too lazy or apathetic to read them speaks poorly on them, not me.
We cant all put as little thought in our posts as you do
The only thing you're showing is your complete lack of understanding of how statistics work. We were talking about murders, but keep moving the goal posts.
goal posts?! Are you fucking serious?
This entire conversation is about how trans people are overwhelmingly targeted for harassment and abuse and murder is only ONE example. I just give you like 50 and you’re still trying to tell me that it’s not a big deal?
Do you have absolutely any comments about any of that data that’s more than “fake news”?
Comments about what exactly? You expect me to read all of that copy pasta about totally unrelated things?
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The only thing you're showing is your complete lack of understanding of how statistics work. We were talking about murders, but keep moving the goal posts.
Reeeeeeeee is just a ridiculous hugbox that they never challenged his "facts" about trans people being MURDERED LEFT AND RIGHT so he never actually knew he's spreading bullshit, that's why he's moving the goalposts to save face now.
I literally said that trans people are being murdered record-breaking numbers every year. That is a completely true statement. That is literally the only thing I said about murder.
This attempt to downplay my entire argument to just about murder is fucking ridiculous and obvious deflection
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I have noticed something.
Since Cream's usual Orwellian method of shutting down discussion he doesn't like through censorship doesn't work in this forum he uses the Huxleylian method of spamming bullshit and burying the discussion under an avalanche of crap.
He's not smart enough to be doing it consciously but it works. I mean who's gonna dumpster dive in that latest clusterfuck of a post?
That poster tried to tell me I’m “making a mountain out of a molehill.” I’m showing them many of the statistics that reveal how deep of a problem transphobia is.
Anyone being too lazy or apathetic to read them speaks poorly on them, not me.
We cant all put as little thought in our posts as you do
The only thing you're showing is your complete lack of understanding of how statistics work. We were talking about murders, but keep moving the goal posts.
goal posts?! Are you fucking serious?
This entire conversation is about how trans people are overwhelmingly targeted for harassment and abuse and murder is only ONE example. I just give you like 50 and you’re still trying to tell me that it’s not a big deal?
Do you have absolutely any comments about any of that data that’s more than “fake news”?
Comments about what exactly? You expect me to read all of that copy pasta about totally unrelated things?
Do you really think I’m falling for this? I can see that you were very clearly trying to deflect from the issue of trans harassment by attempting to make my entire argument specifically about murder because you think “if I just focus on the fact that only 24 trans people were killed in 2017 I can make this seem like not a big deal”
You are ignoring all the other examples of trans harassment and abuse and discrimination which is literally the entire point of this conversation NOT murder.
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Except I just gave you two examples of world famous comedians taking it seriously, when it was about stereotypes that negatively affect them.
But I get how taking anything seriously is impossible to understand for a sociopathic douchebag like you
They didn't take it seriously you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow, they were worried about how it reflects on society which is fucking stupid but anyway. And that was probably under pressure from distinguished mentally-challenged fellows like you who constantly bitch about comedy.
Thankfully comedians are starting to ignore your bullshit and fighting back.
Can you read? It said right there that Chris rock stopped doing the joke because he was worried about people using it to be racist towards blacks by taking his words out of context. He disowned the joke and doesn’t do it anymore.
And if you are going to call Chris Rock, the world famous millionaire esteemed comedian, stupid and wrong for doing that then you are claiming to know more than the comedian and claiming to know how they should be telling their jokes and absolutely nothing stops me from calling Dave Chappelle out as well.
Chris Rock didn't take his jokes seriously, Chris Rock was worried about how it might reflect on society because some assholes used that joke to spread hate. The fact that some assholes used that joke to spread hate isn't Chris Rock's fault but he believed he had to remove it anyway possibly under pressure from distinguished mentally-challenged fellows like you.
Do
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understand?
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The only thing you're showing is your complete lack of understanding of how statistics work. We were talking about murders, but keep moving the goal posts.
Reeeeeeeee is just a ridiculous hugbox that they never challenged his "facts" about trans people being MURDERED LEFT AND RIGHT so he never actually knew he's spreading bullshit, that's why he's moving the goalposts to save face now.
I literally said that trans people are being murdered record-breaking numbers every year. That is a completely true statement. That is literally the only thing I said about murder.
This attempt to downplay my entire argument to just about murder is fucking ridiculous and obvious deflection
RECORD BREAKING NUMBERS 25
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Except I just gave you two examples of world famous comedians taking it seriously, when it was about stereotypes that negatively affect them.
But I get how taking anything seriously is impossible to understand for a sociopathic douchebag like you
They didn't take it seriously you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow, they were worried about how it reflects on society which is fucking stupid but anyway. And that was probably under pressure from distinguished mentally-challenged fellows like you who constantly bitch about comedy.
Thankfully comedians are starting to ignore your bullshit and fighting back.
Can you read? It said right there that Chris rock stopped doing the joke because he was worried about people using it to be racist towards blacks by taking his words out of context. He disowned the joke and doesn’t do it anymore.
And if you are going to call Chris Rock, the world famous millionaire esteemed comedian, stupid and wrong for doing that then you are claiming to know more than the comedian and claiming to know how they should be telling their jokes and absolutely nothing stops me from calling Dave Chappelle out as well.
Chris Rock didn't take his jokes seriously, Chris Rock was worried about how it might reflect on society because some assholes used that joke to spread hate. The fact that some assholes used that joke to spread hate isn't Chris Rock's fault but he believed he had to remove it anyway possibly under pressure from distinguished mentally-challenged fellows like you.
Do
you
understand?
Do you?
In a 2005 60 Minutes interview, Rock said: "By the way, I've never done that joke again, ever, and I probably never will. 'Cos some people that were racist thought they had license to say [n-word]. So, I'm done with that routine."
Keep lying.
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The only thing you're showing is your complete lack of understanding of how statistics work. We were talking about murders, but keep moving the goal posts.
Reeeeeeeee is just a ridiculous hugbox that they never challenged his "facts" about trans people being MURDERED LEFT AND RIGHT so he never actually knew he's spreading bullshit, that's why he's moving the goalposts to save face now.
I literally said that trans people are being murdered record-breaking numbers every year. That is a completely true statement. That is literally the only thing I said about murder.
This attempt to downplay my entire argument to just about murder is fucking ridiculous and obvious deflection
RECORD BREAKING NUMBERS 25
Which is a completely true statement surrounded by other true statements regarding harassment and abuse of trans people that isn’t at all related to them being murdered but nice attempt to make it seem like I was making it bigger than it actually is by putting in caps which I didn’t do.
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Do you?
In a 2005 60 Minutes interview, Rock said: "By the way, I've never done that joke again, ever, and I probably never will. 'Cos some people that were racist thought they had license to say distinguished black fellow. So, I'm done with that routine."
Keep lying.
Um, thanks for proving my point?
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Do you?
In a 2005 60 Minutes interview, Rock said: "By the way, I've never done that joke again, ever, and I probably never will. 'Cos some people that were racist thought they had license to say distinguished black fellow. So, I'm done with that routine."
Keep lying.
Um, thanks for proving my point?
That literally proves the opposite of your point.
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Do you?
In a 2005 60 Minutes interview, Rock said: "By the way, I've never done that joke again, ever, and I probably never will. 'Cos some people that were racist thought they had license to say distinguished black fellow. So, I'm done with that routine."
Keep lying.
Um, thanks for proving my point?
That literally proves the opposite of your point.
No it doesn't!
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Do you?
In a 2005 60 Minutes interview, Rock said: "By the way, I've never done that joke again, ever, and I probably never will. 'Cos some people that were racist thought they had license to say distinguished black fellow. So, I'm done with that routine."
Keep lying.
Um, thanks for proving my point?
That literally proves the opposite of your point.
No it doesn't!
Yes it does. You said that he didn’t take it seriously and only stopped doing it because of people like me that complain about those jokes when from his actual words he says that the reason he stopped doing it is because of racists thinking his jokes give them a pass to be racist.
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Goddamn, I've been playing Team Fortress again and have been winning consecutive matches in RECORD BREAKING NUMBERS for myself. RECORD. FUCKING. BREAKING! 2
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Goddamn, I've been playing Team Fortress again and have been winning consecutive matches in RECORD BREAKING NUMBERS for myself. RECORD. FUCKING. BREAKING! 2
Yup keep it up with this obvious cheap deflection and ignoring all my other points it sure makes you look like a real smart guy
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Yes it does. You said that he didn’t take it seriously and only stopped doing it because of people like me that complain about those jokes when from his actual words he says that the reason he stopped doing it is because of racists thinking his jokes give them a pass to be racist.
No you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow I specifically said:
Chris Rock was worried about how it might reflect on society because some assholes used that joke to spread hate. The fact that some assholes used that joke to spread hate isn't Chris Rock's fault but he believed he had to remove it anyway possibly under pressure from distinguished mentally-challenged fellows like you.
You really can't comprehend people's arguments, can you?
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Goddamn, I've been playing Team Fortress again and have been winning consecutive matches in RECORD BREAKING NUMBERS for myself. RECORD. FUCKING. BREAKING! 2
Yup keep it up with this obvious cheap deflection and ignoring all my other points it sure makes you look like a real smart guy
Your entire argument was flawed from the get-go. Just take the L and move on.
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Yes it does. You said that he didn’t take it seriously and only stopped doing it because of people like me that complain about those jokes when from his actual words he says that the reason he stopped doing it is because of racists thinking his jokes give them a pass to be racist.
No you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow I specifically said:
Chris Rock was worried about how it might reflect on society because some assholes used that joke to spread hate. The fact that some assholes used that joke to spread hate isn't Chris Rock's fault but he believed he had to remove it anyway possibly under pressure from distinguished mentally-challenged fellows like you.
You really can't comprehend people's arguments, can you?
What the fuck is your logic? You aren’t connecting anything that makes any sense!
Chris rock of his own fucking volition removed the joke because of the potential for racism! HE wanted to do that HIMSELF. Where the fuck are you getting any of this bullshit about “distinguished mentally-challenged fellows like me”? Oh I actually know exactly where you are getting it from.
Your own fucking brain. You hate people like me so much that you can only possibly think that the reason Chris rock would ever possibly stop doing a joke has to be our fault. It can’t POSSIBLY be because he actually wanted to because he actually took it seriously and thought it would be a good idea to get rid of the joke. Even though that’s literally exactly what he says.
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It's working!
:rejoice
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Goddamn, I've been playing Team Fortress again and have been winning consecutive matches in RECORD BREAKING NUMBERS for myself. RECORD. FUCKING. BREAKING! 2
Yup keep it up with this obvious cheap deflection and ignoring all my other points it sure makes you look like a real smart guy
Your entire argument was flawed from the get-go. Just take the L and move on.
What was my argument? Can you say to me what you think my argument was that was flawed from the start?
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Yes it does. You said that he didn’t take it seriously and only stopped doing it because of people like me that complain about those jokes when from his actual words he says that the reason he stopped doing it is because of racists thinking his jokes give them a pass to be racist.
No you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow I specifically said:
Chris Rock was worried about how it might reflect on society because some assholes used that joke to spread hate. The fact that some assholes used that joke to spread hate isn't Chris Rock's fault but he believed he had to remove it anyway possibly under pressure from distinguished mentally-challenged fellows like you.
You really can't comprehend people's arguments, can you?
What the fuck is your logic? You aren’t connecting anything that makes any sense!
Chris rock of his own fucking volition removed the joke because of the potential for racism! HE wanted to do that HIMSELF. Where the fuck are you getting any of this bullshit about “distinguished mentally-challenged fellows like me”? Oh I actually know exactly where you are getting it from.
Your own fucking brain. You hate people like me so much that you can only possibly think that the reason Chris rock whatever possibly stop doing a joke has to be our fault. It can’t POSSIBLY be because he actually wanted to because he actually took it seriously and thought it would be a good idea to get rid of the joke. Even though that’s literally exactly what he says.
Again distinguished mentally-challenged fellow, the point here is that it wasn't Chris Rock's fault a minority of assholes took his joke to spread hate, Chris Rock is fucking black it wasn't his intention or the joke's intention to spread hate. He reacted to how assholes were using the joke, which is moronic imo because you acknowledge that way these assholes and give them power.
I know this is too nuanced for you but try. to. use. your. brain.
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Why are most trans MTF who then identify at lesbian?
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Yes it does. You said that he didn’t take it seriously and only stopped doing it because of people like me that complain about those jokes when from his actual words he says that the reason he stopped doing it is because of racists thinking his jokes give them a pass to be racist.
No you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow I specifically said:
Chris Rock was worried about how it might reflect on society because some assholes used that joke to spread hate. The fact that some assholes used that joke to spread hate isn't Chris Rock's fault but he believed he had to remove it anyway possibly under pressure from distinguished mentally-challenged fellows like you.
You really can't comprehend people's arguments, can you?
What the fuck is your logic? You aren’t connecting anything that makes any sense!
Chris rock of his own fucking volition removed the joke because of the potential for racism! HE wanted to do that HIMSELF. Where the fuck are you getting any of this bullshit about “distinguished mentally-challenged fellows like me”? Oh I actually know exactly where you are getting it from.
Your own fucking brain. You hate people like me so much that you can only possibly think that the reason Chris rock whatever possibly stop doing a joke has to be our fault. It can’t POSSIBLY be because he actually wanted to because he actually took it seriously and thought it would be a good idea to get rid of the joke. Even though that’s literally exactly what he says.
Again distinguished mentally-challenged fellow, the point here is that it wasn't Chris Rock's fault a minority of assholes took his joke to spread hate, Chris Rock is fucking black it wasn't his intention or the joke's intention to spread hate. He reacted to how assholes were using the joke, which is moronic imo because you acknowledge that way these assholes and give them power.
I know this is too nuanced for you but try. to. use. your. brain.
Chris rock is on my side you idiot. He is making the exact same point that I am and you are calling it moronic. Own up to the fact that you think Chris rock is wrong.
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Cream you indent your first line of your paragraphs. That's amazing. I used to do that in emails in 1991 and it took me a long time to stop it.
I don't know why I stopped.
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Why are most trans MTF who then identify at lesbian?
I don't know if this is actually true. I know plenty of trans women that are straight. And I can't find any data on sexual orientation demographics with a google search.
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Yes it does. You said that he didn’t take it seriously and only stopped doing it because of people like me that complain about those jokes when from his actual words he says that the reason he stopped doing it is because of racists thinking his jokes give them a pass to be racist.
No you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow I specifically said:
Chris Rock was worried about how it might reflect on society because some assholes used that joke to spread hate. The fact that some assholes used that joke to spread hate isn't Chris Rock's fault but he believed he had to remove it anyway possibly under pressure from distinguished mentally-challenged fellows like you.
You really can't comprehend people's arguments, can you?
What the fuck is your logic? You aren’t connecting anything that makes any sense!
Chris rock of his own fucking volition removed the joke because of the potential for racism! HE wanted to do that HIMSELF. Where the fuck are you getting any of this bullshit about “distinguished mentally-challenged fellows like me”? Oh I actually know exactly where you are getting it from.
Your own fucking brain. You hate people like me so much that you can only possibly think that the reason Chris rock whatever possibly stop doing a joke has to be our fault. It can’t POSSIBLY be because he actually wanted to because he actually took it seriously and thought it would be a good idea to get rid of the joke. Even though that’s literally exactly what he says.
Again distinguished mentally-challenged fellow, the point here is that it wasn't Chris Rock's fault a minority of assholes took his joke to spread hate, Chris Rock is fucking black it wasn't his intention or the joke's intention to spread hate. He reacted to how assholes were using the joke, which is moronic imo because you acknowledge that way these assholes and give them power.
I know this is too nuanced for you but try. to. use. your. brain.
Chris rock is on my side you idiot. He is making the exact same point that I am and you are calling it moronic. Own up to the fact that you think Chris rock is wrong.
DURRRRR HE'S ON MY SIDE DURRRRRRR
A+ argument buddy, I guess this is your intellectual limit, isn't it? You poor, poor soul.
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Yes it does. You said that he didn’t take it seriously and only stopped doing it because of people like me that complain about those jokes when from his actual words he says that the reason he stopped doing it is because of racists thinking his jokes give them a pass to be racist.
No you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow I specifically said:
Chris Rock was worried about how it might reflect on society because some assholes used that joke to spread hate. The fact that some assholes used that joke to spread hate isn't Chris Rock's fault but he believed he had to remove it anyway possibly under pressure from distinguished mentally-challenged fellows like you.
You really can't comprehend people's arguments, can you?
What the fuck is your logic? You aren’t connecting anything that makes any sense!
Chris rock of his own fucking volition removed the joke because of the potential for racism! HE wanted to do that HIMSELF. Where the fuck are you getting any of this bullshit about “distinguished mentally-challenged fellows like me”? Oh I actually know exactly where you are getting it from.
Your own fucking brain. You hate people like me so much that you can only possibly think that the reason Chris rock whatever possibly stop doing a joke has to be our fault. It can’t POSSIBLY be because he actually wanted to because he actually took it seriously and thought it would be a good idea to get rid of the joke. Even though that’s literally exactly what he says.
Again distinguished mentally-challenged fellow, the point here is that it wasn't Chris Rock's fault a minority of assholes took his joke to spread hate, Chris Rock is fucking black it wasn't his intention or the joke's intention to spread hate. He reacted to how assholes were using the joke, which is moronic imo because you acknowledge that way these assholes and give them power.
I know this is too nuanced for you but try. to. use. your. brain.
Chris rock is on my side you idiot. He is making the exact same point that I am and you are calling it moronic. Own up to the fact that you think Chris rock is wrong.
DURRRRR HE'S ON MY SIDE DURRRRRRR
A+ argument buddy, I guess this is your intellectual limit, isn't it? You poor, poor soul.
I'm just trying to make sure you understand that you want your words to have more weight in a conversation about taking comedy seriously than a world-famous beloved comedian. You believe that you are right, and he is wrong. If you are okay with that, then that's your prerogative. Just, it makes you a little hypocritical to criticize me for criticizing a comedian when that's what you are doing.
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I can only read 3 posts on this page LOL :rejoice
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people posting in this thread:
https://youtu.be/zV-ParkoJe4
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Cream, honestly. You really think comedians do more harm to your demographic than good? I think it's the complete opposite. Most of today's comedians (rock, chappelle, gervais) always end their bits with compassion and understanding. If anything it HELPS A LOT because it brings things down to a level people can think and relate to. "yeah, that is weird, but you know what i get it, i get the issue" is what a lot of people walk away with. I don't see why you'd get offended.
What i see do more harm than everything else is the political correctness and pandering people constantly do to the LGBTQ community. It's unbearable. It elicits eyerolls and contempt most of the time.
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You're just jealous that the Cream thread is relevant and yours isn't :umad
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You're just jealous that the Cream thread is relevant and yours isn't :umad
I had my time to shine
:goty2
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You're just jealous that the Cream thread is relevant and yours isn't :umad
You're just jealous that the Cream thread is relevant and yours isn't :umad
I had my time to shine
:goty2
What do you people do all day that you're on the BORE 24/7
You guys scare me. Specifically you Shost.
:tocry
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I'm only here sporadically and on certain hours of the day :doge
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I'm unemployed. No one else here has any excuse.
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I’m just really good at multitasking
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Shemale porn is hurting the cause of transgender people a lot more than some comedians ever will.
But I don't see Cream bitching about that. Probably too busy jerking off to it.
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Shemale porn is hurting the cause of transgender people a lot more than some comedians ever will.
But I don't see Cream bitching about that. Probably too busy jerking off to it.
Lol your arguments are just getting embarrassing now. Maybe you haven’t seen me complain about ”shemale” (a really transphobic terminology) porn because no one has brought it up until you right now?
Porn in general has a lot of problematic elements, related to things like treatment of women and race and trans people too. The problem is that I don’t think there’s been enough research into whether the porn is furthering those issues by buying into the stereotypes and taboos, or if the porn is just a symptom of them. I would like to bet that it is definitely very harmful overall, but I’m not sure exactly to what affect. I’ve noted plenty of circumstances where a man will only regard a trans woman as a sex object. This ties into sexism as much if not more than it does transphobia. Honestly a lot of transphobia, especially the hatred of trans women, is rooted in sexism.
So much of the conversation about trans women immediately goes to their genitalia, which is very telling. I’d definitely think the porn contributes to this.
What I do know is that some trans porn stars, like Bailey Jay have worked hard to vocalize these issues and also show the world that they are more than their bodies. She has a YouTube channel where she answers questions and does interviews and anecdotally, I know that she has contributed to changing some people’s views on trans issues.
If there were any high profile comedians, trans or otherwise, making a different approach not rooted in mockery of their identity, I would be more willing to take it as complex. But it’s just high profile famous comedians doing the most bottom of the barrel 4chan-level “cheeseburger” mocking.
So, Samir, what’s your next disingenuous transphobic straw man? Please keep them coming. I love how much you’re deflecting
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Shemale porn is hurting the cause of transgender people a lot more than some comedians ever will.
But I don't see Cream bitching about that. Probably too busy jerking off to it.
Lol your arguments are just getting embarrassing now. Maybe you haven’t seen me complain about ”shemale” (a really transphobic terminology) porn because no one has brought it up until you right now?
Porn in general has a lot of problematic elements, related to things like treatment of women and race and trans people too. The problem is that I don’t think there’s been enough research into whether the porn is furthering those issues by buying into the stereotypes and taboos, or if the porn is just a symptom of them. I would like to bet that it is definitely very harmful overall, but I’m not sure exactly to what affect. I’ve noted plenty of circumstances where a man will only regard a trans woman as a sex object. This ties into sexism as much if not more than it does transphobia. Honestly a lot of transphobia, especially the hatred of trans women, is rooted in sexism.
So much of the conversation about trans women immediately goes to their genitalia, which is very telling. I’d definitely think the porn contributes to this.
What I do know is that some trans porn stars, like Bailey Jay have worked hard to vocalize these issues and also show the world that they are more than their bodies. She has a YouTube channel where she answers questions and does interviews and anecdotally, I know that she has contributed to changing some people’s views on trans issues.
If there were any high profile comedians, trans or otherwise, making a different approach not rooted in mockery of their identity, I would be more willing to take it as complex. But it’s just high profile famous comedians doing the most bottom of the barrel 4chan-level “cheeseburger” mocking.
So, Samir, what’s your next disingenuous transphobic straw man? Please keep them coming. I love how much you’re deflecting
More of a reflection than argument. If you want people to become more accepting of transgendered people, focus on the things that matter.
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This is a great idea. Cream please watch the new Ricky Gervais special on Netflix and make a thread about it with your impressions.
Of course Optimus likes Ricky Gervais's standup. It's a perfect fit.
Honest question, why do you think it's a perfect fit?
(https://i.imgur.com/YKqwsBe.jpg)
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Shemale porn is hurting the cause of transgender people a lot more than some comedians ever will.
But I don't see Cream bitching about that. Probably too busy jerking off to it.
Lol your arguments are just getting embarrassing now. Maybe you haven’t seen me complain about ”shemale” (a really transphobic terminology) porn because no one has brought it up until you right now?
Porn in general has a lot of problematic elements, related to things like treatment of women and race and trans people too. The problem is that I don’t think there’s been enough research into whether the porn is furthering those issues by buying into the stereotypes and taboos, or if the porn is just a symptom of them. I would like to bet that it is definitely very harmful overall, but I’m not sure exactly to what affect. I’ve noted plenty of circumstances where a man will only regard a trans woman as a sex object. This ties into sexism as much if not more than it does transphobia. Honestly a lot of transphobia, especially the hatred of trans women, is rooted in sexism.
So much of the conversation about trans women immediately goes to their genitalia, which is very telling. I’d definitely think the porn contributes to this.
What I do know is that some trans porn stars, like Bailey Jay have worked hard to vocalize these issues and also show the world that they are more than their bodies. She has a YouTube channel where she answers questions and does interviews and anecdotally, I know that she has contributed to changing some people’s views on trans issues.
If there were any high profile comedians, trans or otherwise, making a different approach not rooted in mockery of their identity, I would be more willing to take it as complex. But it’s just high profile famous comedians doing the most bottom of the barrel 4chan-level “cheeseburger” mocking.
So, Samir, what’s your next disingenuous transphobic straw man? Please keep them coming. I love how much you’re deflecting
More of a reflection than argument. If you want people to become more accepting of transgendered people, focus on the things that matter.
The conversation was about Dave Chappelle’s comedy. There’s this little thing called focusing on multiple things at once that I think you should try sometime
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Shemale porn is hurting the cause of transgender people a lot more than some comedians ever will.
But I don't see Cream bitching about that. Probably too busy jerking off to it.
Lol your arguments are just getting embarrassing now. Maybe you haven’t seen me complain about ”shemale” (a really transphobic terminology) porn because no one has brought it up until you right now?
Porn in general has a lot of problematic elements, related to things like treatment of women and race and trans people too. The problem is that I don’t think there’s been enough research into whether the porn is furthering those issues by buying into the stereotypes and taboos, or if the porn is just a symptom of them. I would like to bet that it is definitely very harmful overall, but I’m not sure exactly to what affect. I’ve noted plenty of circumstances where a man will only regard a trans woman as a sex object. This ties into sexism as much if not more than it does transphobia. Honestly a lot of transphobia, especially the hatred of trans women, is rooted in sexism.
So much of the conversation about trans women immediately goes to their genitalia, which is very telling. I’d definitely think the porn contributes to this.
What I do know is that some trans porn stars, like Bailey Jay have worked hard to vocalize these issues and also show the world that they are more than their bodies. She has a YouTube channel where she answers questions and does interviews and anecdotally, I know that she has contributed to changing some people’s views on trans issues.
If there were any high profile comedians, trans or otherwise, making a different approach not rooted in mockery of their identity, I would be more willing to take it as complex. But it’s just high profile famous comedians doing the most bottom of the barrel 4chan-level “cheeseburger” mocking.
So, Samir, what’s your next disingenuous transphobic straw man? Please keep them coming. I love how much you’re deflecting
More of a reflection than argument. If you want people to become more accepting of transgendered people, focus on the things that matter.
The conversation was about Dave Chappelle’s comedy. There’s this little thing called focusing on multiple things at once that I think you should try sometime
Just like the conversation was about transsexuals getting murdered, right :heh
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Shemale porn is hurting the cause of transgender people a lot more than some comedians ever will.
But I don't see Cream bitching about that. Probably too busy jerking off to it.
Lol your arguments are just getting embarrassing now. Maybe you haven’t seen me complain about ”shemale” (a really transphobic terminology) porn because no one has brought it up until you right now?
Porn in general has a lot of problematic elements, related to things like treatment of women and race and trans people too. The problem is that I don’t think there’s been enough research into whether the porn is furthering those issues by buying into the stereotypes and taboos, or if the porn is just a symptom of them. I would like to bet that it is definitely very harmful overall, but I’m not sure exactly to what affect. I’ve noted plenty of circumstances where a man will only regard a trans woman as a sex object. This ties into sexism as much if not more than it does transphobia. Honestly a lot of transphobia, especially the hatred of trans women, is rooted in sexism.
So much of the conversation about trans women immediately goes to their genitalia, which is very telling. I’d definitely think the porn contributes to this.
What I do know is that some trans porn stars, like Bailey Jay have worked hard to vocalize these issues and also show the world that they are more than their bodies. She has a YouTube channel where she answers questions and does interviews and anecdotally, I know that she has contributed to changing some people’s views on trans issues.
If there were any high profile comedians, trans or otherwise, making a different approach not rooted in mockery of their identity, I would be more willing to take it as complex. But it’s just high profile famous comedians doing the most bottom of the barrel 4chan-level “cheeseburger” mocking.
So, Samir, what’s your next disingenuous transphobic straw man? Please keep them coming. I love how much you’re deflecting
More of a reflection than argument. If you want people to become more accepting of transgendered people, focus on the things that matter.
The conversation was about Dave Chappelle’s comedy. There’s this little thing called focusing on multiple things at once that I think you should try sometime
Just like the conversation was about transsexuals getting murdered, right :heh
Transgender people. You sound like a fucking out of touch grandpa.
And no it was not “about” them getting murdered as I have explained many times. I brought up them being murdered as one of many examples of the discrimination and harassment and abuse they receive and you and others have tried multiple times without success to deflect my entire argument to just being about murder because you feel that if you can just talk about the murder you can make the problems seem like not much of a problem at all.
Remember how I asked you to tell me what you think my argument is and you completely avoided the question for hours and then came back with something completely unrelated, about “shemale porn”?
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Transgender people. You sound like a fucking out of touch grandpa.
Erasure.
LGBT “culture” is shit. Thanks for confirming that in this thread thnx
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Transgender people. You sound like a fucking out of touch grandpa.
Erasure.
LGBT “culture” is shit. Thanks for confirming that in this thread thnx
I sincerely apologize if you felt like I was erasing anyone. Arguing with Samir it’s clear he has no intention of being respect towards trans people, so I read his use of “transvestite” which was all-encompassing to be belittling. I have no intention of removing the existance of any of any kind of LGBT persuasion. The conversation was just about a specific group and he seemed to be ignorant or deflective of that.
Lol but why am I justifying myself to you? You’re a crazy antagonistic flip flop and way worse for the trans community than any of chappele’s Jokes for sure.
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I never said transvestite.
Cream, you have to realize that everyone is not as woke as you are. You are at the pinnacle of wokeness. Interacting with people in the real world must be a challenge to someone as woke as you are. I can only imagine how difficult it must be for you.
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I never said transvestite.
Cream, you have to realize that everyone is not as woke as you are. You are at the pinnacle of wokeness. Interacting with people in the real world must be a challenge to someone as woke as you are. I can only imagine how difficult it must be for you.
You’re right, transsexual is what you said. Sorry. Still read it as dismissive. There are way more transgender people than just transsexuals, them included, obviously.
Do you have any intention of ever addressing any of my arguments besides the murder thing? Or are you just gonna keep being dismissive and saying nothing of value?
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Trans people aren't changing their gender, they are changing their sex to match their gender. So why aren't they "transsexual"?
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Trans people aren't changing their gender, they are changing their sex to match their gender. So why aren't they "transsexual"?
Because a lot of trans people don’t transition. Or they might transition in ways other than their sex. I dunno if that’s still considered transsexual if you transition in any capacity at all? So they wouldn’t be transsexual. Not all obviously.
I always took transsexual to mean specifically people that got surgery.
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Cindi
:rejoice
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I'm unemployed. No one else here has any excuse.
:confused
But what about today? it's sunday
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Cindi
:rejoice
:lol
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I'm unemployed. No one else here has any excuse.
:confused
But what about today? it's sunday
He's unemployed, every day is Sunday
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I'm unemployed. No one else here has any excuse.
:confused
But what about today? it's sunday
He's unemployed, every day is Sunday
I'm not talking about him, i'm talking about you people. It's sunday, do stuff.
This is why the United States has flatlined on the global happiness index. Americans are miserable as fuck.
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It's called multitasking, bitch
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It's called multitasking, bitch
That's a lie and you know it :ufup
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Transgender people. You sound like a fucking out of touch grandpa.
Erasure.
LGBT “culture” is shit. Thanks for confirming that in this thread thnx
It's talking to a brick wall on both side, ITT.
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What are some acceptable Sunday activities
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Jacking off.
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What are some acceptable Sunday activities
Sleeping
Watching sports
Video games
Beach
BBQ
Drinking
Dog park
Brunch
Most can be done consecutively and some simultaneously. But sitting on the bore all day like Shos, well, no. :comeon
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What are some acceptable Sunday activities
Sleeping
Watching sports
Video games
Beach
BBQ
Drinking
Dog park
Brunch
Most can be done consecutively and some simultaneously. But sitting on the bore all day like Shos, well, no. :comeon
Lol you're seriously feeling superior even tho you post in this thread?
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What are some acceptable Sunday activities
Sleeping
Watching sports
Video games
Beach
BBQ
Drinking
Dog park
Brunch
Most can be done consecutively and some simultaneously. But sitting on the bore all day like Shos, well, no. :comeon
I can look at bore at the beach! And while I drink, or BBQ or go to the dog park, or to brunch.
I could be a brunch right now you don’t know
I go to brunch all the time fuck you
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What are some acceptable Sunday activities
Sleeping
Watching sports
Video games
Beach
BBQ
Drinking
Dog park
Brunch
Most can be done consecutively and some simultaneously. But sitting on the bore all day like Shos, well, no. :comeon
Lol you're seriously feeling superior even tho you post in this thread?
It's the end of the day here bitch. Quiet down.
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It's the end of the day here bitch. Quiet down.
Yeah, yeah. As if you actually do any of that stuff you listed :girlaff
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:badass
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Just got back from a brunch. Shit is so overpriced. We spent like $180 between four of us. Could have bought a bottle of tequila and all the Bloody Mary ingredients and some dope breakfast ingredients for like $50.
Remington pretending he has friends
:aweshum
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How often has all that hate and bitterness actually made you feel happier in your life Assimilate?
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:badass
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How often has all that hate and bitterness actually made you feel happier in your life Assimilate?
Often
:win
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Just got back from a brunch. Shit is so overpriced. We spent like $180 between four of us. Could have bought a bottle of tequila and all the Bloody Mary ingredients and some dope breakfast ingredients for like $50.
Remington pretending he has friends
:aweshum
Ask Bebpo or tiesto who they would rather hang out with.
Nintendo.
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The people who go completely in the other direction to “I don’t care or want to fight for anything” are a bigger problem.
It's ok if they're truly committed to this point of view, because then when you call them on it they won't put up a fight defending it.
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The people who go completely in the other direction to “I don’t care or want to fight for anything” are a bigger problem.
It's ok if they're truly committed to this point of view, because then when you call them on it they won't put up a fight defending it.
But they almost always do in my experience
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The people who go completely in the other direction to “I don’t care or want to fight for anything” are a bigger problem.
It's ok if they're truly committed to this point of view, because then when you call them on it they won't put up a fight defending it.
But they almost always do in my experience
To be fair, you only seem to be interested in fighting for causes that you, personally, are a representative sample of.
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it all comes back to mike judge. what would mike judge say about it? how would he work this sticky wicket of societal conflict into a king of the hill storyline, how would they resolve and come to terms with it without entirely surrendering who they are?
because that is almost always the universally correct answer.
the day the bloke shuffles off this mortal coil i'm starting a church.
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https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2018/03/21/425573955/white-skin-black-emojis
I can't use half the smilies here :(
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https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2018/03/21/425573955/white-skin-black-emojis
I can't use half the smilies here :(
You just thinking about it makes you racist. Way to show your true lack of color.
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I'm going to jail doing what I loved
Being a cunt?
(https://i.imgur.com/inbXOVE.gif)
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https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2018/03/21/425573955/white-skin-black-emojis
I can't use half the smilies here :(
so when there were only yellow emoji they were racist because white people used them and because white people are yellow on the simpsons and there were definitely no yellow smiley faces before the simpsons, right
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The people who go completely in the other direction to “I don’t care or want to fight for anything” are a bigger problem.
It's ok if they're truly committed to this point of view, because then when you call them on it they won't put up a fight defending it.
But they almost always do in my experience
To be fair, you only seem to be interested in fighting for causes that you, personally, are a representative sample of.
I fight against pro-life despite not being able to give birth. I fight for veterans rights despite having no family in the military and hating war. The things I fight for benefit everyone who isn’t a horrible bigot.
I’m not saying I’m a saint but I regularly get stopped by people that want me to buy them something or give them a few bucks, and I almost always do. I grew up in Baltimore surrounded by poverty and instead of regressing into apathy, I decided to fight.
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The different skin color emoji thing is the perfect encapsulation of SJW madness inspired political correctness.
It's a yellow face, you bunch of fragile fucks. It's not white. Hell, if anything the Asians should've been offended.
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The different skin color emoji thing is the perfect encapsulation of Social Studies Warrior madness inspired political correctness.
It's a yellow face, you bunch of fragile fucks. It's not white. Hell, if anything the Asians should've been offended.
The smilies were yellow, but the emojis of people were all white. They changed those to yellow by default when they added the skin color options.
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The different skin color emoji thing is the perfect encapsulation of Social Studies Warrior madness inspired political correctness.
It's a yellow face, you bunch of fragile fucks. It's not white. Hell, if anything the Asians should've been offended.
Legit I think it was more a representation thing. People wanted emojis that would represent their skin color.
Like, how is that a "perfect encapsulation of [...] madness", the adults weren't claiming the yellow emoji was racist or anything. Just that a lack of representation was wrong.
How does it hurt you that they included normal skin colors in emojis?
Also, Cream - shut the fuck up and leave. You're mentally ill. Seek help.
Y'all would think sincerity and caring = mentally ill lmao
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I'm going to jail doing what I loved
Being a cunt?
(https://i.imgur.com/inbXOVE.gif)
I could've sworn you'd go to jail to do what you love
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The different skin color emoji thing is the perfect encapsulation of Social Studies Warrior madness inspired political correctness.
It's a yellow face, you bunch of fragile fucks. It's not white. Hell, if anything the Asians should've been offended.
Legit I think it was more a representation thing. People wanted emojis that would represent their skin color.
Like, how is that a "perfect encapsulation of [...] madness", the adults weren't claiming the yellow emoji was racist or anything. Just that a lack of representation was wrong.
How does it hurt you that they included normal skin colors in emojis?
Also, Cream - shut the fuck up and leave. You're mentally ill. Seek help.
Y'all would think sincerity and caring = mentally ill lmao
Because now we have people losing their shit over (white) people sending emojis that don't match their skin color, calling it insensitive at best and insinuating or accusing them of being racist at worst.
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The different skin color emoji thing is the perfect encapsulation of Social Studies Warrior madness inspired political correctness.
It's a yellow face, you bunch of fragile fucks. It's not white. Hell, if anything the Asians should've been offended.
Legit I think it was more a representation thing. People wanted emojis that would represent their skin color.
Like, how is that a "perfect encapsulation of [...] madness", the adults weren't claiming the yellow emoji was racist or anything. Just that a lack of representation was wrong.
How does it hurt you that they included normal skin colors in emojis?
Also, Cream - shut the fuck up and leave. You're mentally ill. Seek help.
Y'all would think sincerity and caring = mentally ill lmao
Because now we have people losing their shit over (white) people sending emojis that don't match their skin color, calling it insensitive at best and insinuating or accusing them of being racist at worst.
I mean, a very small percentage of people are gunna lose their shit over lots of things so that's the first thing you gotta get over.
More importantly though, it is a conversation that should take place. Like, you have to actively choose to send a black emoji, you're making some kind of statement there. Nobody is suggesting that we make it illegal for white people to send black emojis, but racial insensitivity doesn't just manifest in real life, it can manifest on the internet too. There's nothing extreme about that Code Switch post, I think it's a measured look at this kind of thing.
I mean, y'all already talked to death about this, I just wanted to point out that emoji representation isn't madness. Being incensed over people talking about emoji representation is a little extreme though.
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When I think of Cream 'sincere' isn't the first word that comes to mind considering he's the biggest troll on RE
marrec probably posts on coli and uses black emoi.
RACIST.
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marrec, you are mentally ill. Please seek professional help.
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marrec, you are mentally ill. Please seek professional help.
I do talk therapy twice a month, it ain't something I'm ashamed of. I think everyone should do preventative mental health screenings... especially people who get riled up by social studies warriors.
When I think of Cream 'sincere' isn't the first word that comes to mind considering he's the biggest troll on RE
marrec probably posts on coli and uses black emoi.
RACIST.
Nah, why on earth would I do that?
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"Ya'll shouldn't be appropriatin' dem emojis mah niccas" - marrec probably
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"Ya'll shouldn't be appropriatin' dem emojis mah niccas" - marrec probably
Y'all know I say y'all cause I'm from New Mexico right?
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"Ya'll shouldn't be appropriatin' dem emojis mah niccas" - marrec probably
Y'all know I say y'all cause I'm from New Mexico right?
It's not your word. Let them have it and stop being racist
This map (http://dialectblog.com/2011/02/15/the-remarkable-history-of-yall) shows that New Mexico isn't y'all country anyway
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Y'all know I say y'all cause I'm from New Mexico right?
:drudge :dolezal :drudge
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"Ya'll shouldn't be appropriatin' dem emojis mah niccas" - marrec probably
Y'all know I say y'all cause I'm from New Mexico right?
It's not your word. Let them have it and stop being racist
This map (http://dialectblog.com/2011/02/15/the-remarkable-history-of-yall) shows that New Mexico isn't YA'LL country anyway
Man, that map is 100% wrong, East NM is totally y'all country.
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as someone currently in new mexico, y'all can go fuck yourselves
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as someone currently in new mexico, y'all can go fuck yourselves
I'm terribly sorry that explains where all the anger is coming from
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"Ya'll shouldn't be appropriatin' dem emojis mah niccas" - marrec probably
Hey! Another racist on the bore. Shocker
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Thanks TwoBitNate, I blame you for all this shit.
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Hey! Another racist on the bore. Shocker
Explain how that was racist without giving a snarky "well if you can't see how that's racist you're part of the problem" response....
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Cream shut up and suck filler's hog biiiiiiiatch
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The different skin color emoji thing is the perfect encapsulation of Social Studies Warrior madness inspired political correctness.
It's a yellow face, you bunch of fragile fucks. It's not white. Hell, if anything the Asians should've been offended.
Legit I think it was more a representation thing. People wanted emojis that would represent their skin color.
Like, how is that a "perfect encapsulation of [...] madness", the adults weren't claiming the yellow emoji was racist or anything. Just that a lack of representation was wrong.
How does it hurt you that they included normal skin colors in emojis?
Also, Cream - shut the fuck up and leave. You're mentally ill. Seek help.
Y'all would think sincerity and caring = mentally ill lmao
Because now we have people losing their shit over (white) people sending emojis that don't match their skin color, calling it insensitive at best and insinuating or accusing them of being racist at worst.
I mean, a very small percentage of people are gunna lose their shit over lots of things so that's the first thing you gotta get over.
More importantly though, it is a conversation that should take place. Like, you have to actively choose to send a black emoji, you're making some kind of statement there. Nobody is suggesting that we make it illegal for white people to send black emojis, but racial insensitivity doesn't just manifest in real life, it can manifest on the internet too. There's nothing extreme about that Code Switch post, I think it's a measured look at this kind of thing.
I mean, y'all already talked to death about this, I just wanted to point out that emoji representation isn't madness. Being incensed over people talking about emoji representation is a little extreme though.
It's so fucking trivial and basically requires an person to automatically assume the worst possible intentions of motives on sending a different skin color emoji. Assuming the worst of people is exactly the problem we have in general.
It's not a conversation that needs to take place. It's a thing people need to get over.
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Hey! Another racist on the bore. Shocker
Explain how that was racist without giving a snarky "well if you can't see how that's racist you're part of the problem" response....
Mocking a black person in a very stereotypical way, putting all sorts of affectation to the words because he thinks it sounds funny.
“Appropriatin’“
“Dem”
“Mah niccas”
All it’s missing is a “we wuz kangz” And “watermelon”
(https://abagond.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/aunt-jemima.jpeg)
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The different skin color emoji thing is the perfect encapsulation of Social Studies Warrior madness inspired political correctness.
It's a yellow face, you bunch of fragile fucks. It's not white. Hell, if anything the Asians should've been offended.
Legit I think it was more a representation thing. People wanted emojis that would represent their skin color.
Like, how is that a "perfect encapsulation of [...] madness", the adults weren't claiming the yellow emoji was racist or anything. Just that a lack of representation was wrong.
How does it hurt you that they included normal skin colors in emojis?
Also, Cream - shut the fuck up and leave. You're mentally ill. Seek help.
Y'all would think sincerity and caring = mentally ill lmao
Because now we have people losing their shit over (white) people sending emojis that don't match their skin color, calling it insensitive at best and insinuating or accusing them of being racist at worst.
I mean, a very small percentage of people are gunna lose their shit over lots of things so that's the first thing you gotta get over.
More importantly though, it is a conversation that should take place. Like, you have to actively choose to send a black emoji, you're making some kind of statement there. Nobody is suggesting that we make it illegal for white people to send black emojis, but racial insensitivity doesn't just manifest in real life, it can manifest on the internet too. There's nothing extreme about that Code Switch post, I think it's a measured look at this kind of thing.
I mean, y'all already talked to death about this, I just wanted to point out that emoji representation isn't madness. Being incensed over people talking about emoji representation is a little extreme though.
It's so fucking trivial and basically requires an person to automatically assume dinner of the worst possible intentions of motives on sending a different skin color emoji. Assuming the worst of people is exactly the problem we have in general.
It's not a conversation that needs to take place. It's a thing people need to get over.
See I don't think it requires a person to automatically assume the worst of possible intentions.
It just requires a person be genuinely curious as to why a white person would actively choose to send out black emojis. It's not some random happenstance, there is a reason. Also, it's not necessarily trivial, it could in fact be malicious.
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I'm terribly sorry that explains where all the anger is coming from
of all the people in this thread you're marking me as the angry one? come on now lol
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Hey! Another racist on the bore. Shocker
Explain how that was racist without giving a snarky "well if you can't see how that's racist you're part of the problem" response....
Mocking a black person in a very stereotypical way, putting all sorts of affectation to the words because he thinks it sounds funny.
“Appropriatin’“
“Dem”
“Mah niccas”
All it’s missing is a “we wuz kangz” And “watermelon”
I was making fun of marrec's constant use of "y'all" which is a popular AAVE contraction while at the same time shaming people for improper racial emoji use.
Nothing I said was racist. That was marrec probably - as the quote is attributed
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Mocking a black person in a very stereotypical way, putting all sorts of affectation to the words because he thinks it sounds funny.
“Appropriatin’“
“Dem”
“Mah niccas”
All it’s missing is a “we wuz kangz” And “watermelon”
(https://abagond.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/aunt-jemima.jpeg)
Fucking hell. Context, I've heard of it.
Could you really not see that he wasn't trying to imitate a black person? Like seriously, do you have issues with non verbal cues irl perchance?
Nothing I said was racist. That was marrec probably - as the quote is attributed
It's well established that Marrec is a racist piece of shit. That's why he doesn't post on reeee so much anymore.
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Hey! Another racist on the bore. Shocker
Explain how that was racist without giving a snarky "well if you can't see how that's racist you're part of the problem" response....
Mocking a black person in a very stereotypical way, putting all sorts of affectation to the words because he thinks it sounds funny.
“Appropriatin’“
“Dem”
“Mah niccas”
All it’s missing is a “we wuz kangz” And “watermelon”
The point is to exaggerate how marrec's choice in speech is coming across online (personally I don't associate y'all with black people since I used to live in the south myself). How would you suggest he convey that meaning while still keeping the jokey tone of the post?
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I'm terribly sorry that explains where all the anger is coming from
of all the people in this thread you're marking me as the angry one? come on now lol
lol good point my bad
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Future Hottake: Emojis are Asian culture. Black people trying to appropriate Asian internet culture.
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Mocking a black person in a very stereotypical way, putting all sorts of affectation to the words because he thinks it sounds funny.
“Appropriatin’“
“Dem”
“Mah niccas”
All it’s missing is a “we wuz kangz” And “watermelon”
(https://abagond.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/aunt-jemima.jpeg)
Fucking hell. Context, I've heard of it.
Could you really not see that he wasn't trying to imitate a black person? Like seriously, do you have issues with non verbal cues irl perchance?
Nothing I said was racist. That was marrec probably - as the quote is attributed
It's well established that Marrec is a racist piece of shit. That's why he doesn't post on reeee so much anymore.
.... The fact that he was imitating a black person by putting all that mocking afflectation is entirely what makes it racist.
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“ how are you supposed to imitate a black person without doing that voice?!”
Am I back in 1962?
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Fine, were racist. We get it. Go away now.
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“ how are you supposed to imitate a black person without doing that voice?!”
Am I back in 1962?
Is your argument that AAVE doesn't actually exist?
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.... The fact that he was imitating a black person by putting all that mocking afflectation is entirely what makes it racist.
But he wasn't. Please understand. He was trying to point out that Marrec is such a racist goon, that he would use that kind of language in an attempt to be black. It's pretty much this joke:
(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/MpA2HVftSFntl9HhmhlQA3MEjIU=/0x0:1409x785/1200x800/filters:focal(622x252:846x476)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/55701647/Screen_Shot_2017_07_13_at_1.09.20_PM.0.png)
Did you really not pick up on that, or did you actually get that but decided he was posting in bad faith?
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The different skin color emoji thing is the perfect encapsulation of Social Studies Warrior madness inspired political correctness.
It's a yellow face, you bunch of fragile fucks. It's not white. Hell, if anything the Asians should've been offended.
Legit I think it was more a representation thing. People wanted emojis that would represent their skin color.
Like, how is that a "perfect encapsulation of [...] madness", the adults weren't claiming the yellow emoji was racist or anything. Just that a lack of representation was wrong.
How does it hurt you that they included normal skin colors in emojis?
Also, Cream - shut the fuck up and leave. You're mentally ill. Seek help.
Y'all would think sincerity and caring = mentally ill lmao
Because now we have people losing their shit over (white) people sending emojis that don't match their skin color, calling it insensitive at best and insinuating or accusing them of being racist at worst.
I mean, a very small percentage of people are gunna lose their shit over lots of things so that's the first thing you gotta get over.
More importantly though, it is a conversation that should take place. Like, you have to actively choose to send a black emoji, you're making some kind of statement there. Nobody is suggesting that we make it illegal for white people to send black emojis, but racial insensitivity doesn't just manifest in real life, it can manifest on the internet too. There's nothing extreme about that Code Switch post, I think it's a measured look at this kind of thing.
I mean, y'all already talked to death about this, I just wanted to point out that emoji representation isn't madness. Being incensed over people talking about emoji representation is a little extreme though.
It's so fucking trivial and basically requires an person to automatically assume dinner of the worst possible intentions of motives on sending a different skin color emoji. Assuming the worst of people is exactly the problem we have in general.
It's not a conversation that needs to take place. It's a thing people need to get over.
See I don't think it requires a person to automatically assume the worst of possible intentions.
It just requires a person be genuinely curious as to why a white person would actively choose to send out black emojis. It's not some random happenstance, there is a reason. Also, it's not necessarily trivial, it could in fact be malicious.
Not everyone takes emojis super serious dude.
You don't have to read things into every little detail of everyday life.
Again, seek help.
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“ how are you supposed to imitate a black person without doing that voice?!”
Am I back in 1962?
I think what they're trying to say is:
"How else am I supposed to show that Marrec is a racist?"
Using hyperbolic type is still racist though.
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“ how are you supposed to imitate a black person without doing that voice?!”
Am I back in 1962?
Is your argument that AAVE doesn't actually exist?
My argument is that mocking AAVE is racist.
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My argument is that mocking AAVE is racist.
Side question: Is it racist for an African American to mock the British accent?
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/freshprince/images/5/58/PortalGeoffrey.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150823044534)
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.... The fact that he was imitating a black person by putting all that mocking afflectation is entirely what makes it racist.
But he wasn't. Please understand. He was trying to point out that Marrec is such a racist goon, that he would use that kind of language in an attempt to be black. It's pretty much this joke:
(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/MpA2HVftSFntl9HhmhlQA3MEjIU=/0x0:1409x785/1200x800/filters:focal(622x252:846x476)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/55701647/Screen_Shot_2017_07_13_at_1.09.20_PM.0.png)
Did you really not pick up on that, or did you actually get that but decided he was posting in bad faith?
I didn’t realize marrec wasn’t black. My apologies. I’m still not comfortable with the mocking of AAVE
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.... The fact that he was imitating a black person by putting all that mocking afflectation is entirely what makes it racist.
But he wasn't. Please understand. He was trying to point out that Marrec is such a racist goon, that he would use that kind of language in an attempt to be black. It's pretty much this joke:
(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/MpA2HVftSFntl9HhmhlQA3MEjIU=/0x0:1409x785/1200x800/filters:focal(622x252:846x476)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/55701647/Screen_Shot_2017_07_13_at_1.09.20_PM.0.png)
Did you really not pick up on that, or did you actually get that but decided he was posting in bad faith?
I didn’t realize marrec wasn’t black. My apologies. I’m still not comfortable with the mocking of AAVE
Wait really? Shit maybe I do need to reflect
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“ how are you supposed to imitate a black person without doing that voice?!”
Am I back in 1962?
Is your argument that AAVE doesn't actually exist?
My argument is that mocking AAVE is racist.
I wasn't mocking AAVE. I was mocking marrec using AAVE
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My argument is that mocking AAVE is racist.
Is mocking any accent racist?
Were people who laughed when I said "get to the chopper" just a bunch of racists?
Like can't we make fun of the French anymore? :goty2
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The different skin color emoji thing is the perfect encapsulation of Social Studies Warrior madness inspired political correctness.
It's a yellow face, you bunch of fragile fucks. It's not white. Hell, if anything the Asians should've been offended.
Legit I think it was more a representation thing. People wanted emojis that would represent their skin color.
Like, how is that a "perfect encapsulation of [...] madness", the adults weren't claiming the yellow emoji was racist or anything. Just that a lack of representation was wrong.
How does it hurt you that they included normal skin colors in emojis?
Also, Cream - shut the fuck up and leave. You're mentally ill. Seek help.
Y'all would think sincerity and caring = mentally ill lmao
Because now we have people losing their shit over (white) people sending emojis that don't match their skin color, calling it insensitive at best and insinuating or accusing them of being racist at worst.
I mean, a very small percentage of people are gunna lose their shit over lots of things so that's the first thing you gotta get over.
More importantly though, it is a conversation that should take place. Like, you have to actively choose to send a black emoji, you're making some kind of statement there. Nobody is suggesting that we make it illegal for white people to send black emojis, but racial insensitivity doesn't just manifest in real life, it can manifest on the internet too. There's nothing extreme about that Code Switch post, I think it's a measured look at this kind of thing.
I mean, y'all already talked to death about this, I just wanted to point out that emoji representation isn't madness. Being incensed over people talking about emoji representation is a little extreme though.
It's so fucking trivial and basically requires an person to automatically assume dinner of the worst possible intentions of motives on sending a different skin color emoji. Assuming the worst of people is exactly the problem we have in general.
It's not a conversation that needs to take place. It's a thing people need to get over.
See I don't think it requires a person to automatically assume the worst of possible intentions.
It just requires a person be genuinely curious as to why a white person would actively choose to send out black emojis. It's not some random happenstance, there is a reason. Also, it's not necessarily trivial, it could in fact be malicious.
But right there you're still assuming ill intention.
"What reason could you POSSIBLY have to send a different skin color emoji... unlesssssss....."
Who gives a shit why they're using it if there is no clear ill intent? Just accept it and move on instead of making it into some big drama.
If the person is clearly acting maliciously, then yes, it's wrong and they need to be told to stop.
On an unrelated note, I hate this swipe keyboard.
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My argument is that mocking AAVE is racist.
Side question: Is it racist for an African American to mock the British accent?
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/freshprince/images/5/58/PortalGeoffrey.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150823044534)
The difference in power structures makes this a completely unrelated and pointless comparison. I suppose a well-off Black person literally MOCKING a poor British person could be a form of bigotry depending on the context.
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My argument is that mocking AAVE is racist.
Is mocking any accent racist?
Were people who laughed when I said "get to the chopper" just a bunch of racists?
Like can't we make fun of the French anymore? :goty1
No. It's racist. Accept it.
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My argument is that mocking AAVE is racist.
Is mocking any accent racist?
Were people who laughed when I said "get to the chopper" just a bunch of racists?
Like can't we make fun of the French anymore? :goty2
Can you honestly say to me that you mock black peoples way of speaking to their face?
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My argument is that mocking AAVE is racist.
Side question: Is it racist for an African American to mock the British accent?
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/freshprince/images/5/58/PortalGeoffrey.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150823044534)
The difference in power structures makes this a completely unrelated and pointless comparison. I suppose a well-off Black person literally MOCKING a poor British person could be a form of bigotry depending on the context.
You're such a bigoted piece of shit.
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Can you honestly say to me that you mock black peoples way of speaking to their face?
No, I don't because I am not a native English speaker and I couldn't care less what Americans do.
I just wanted to know whether mocking any accent is racist.
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We're going to need to see some tax returns before we determine if that was racist
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The difference in power structures makes this a completely unrelated and pointless comparison. I suppose a well-off Black person literally MOCKING a poor British person could be a form of bigotry depending on the context.
So you think that average Brit has it better than any African American?
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“ how are you supposed to imitate a black person without doing that voice?!”
Am I back in 1962?
Yes. Be sure to hide the Delorean before your go anywhere. So how would he be able to make fun of marrec using that type of speech while still being humourous and not be racist?
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Can you honestly say to me that you mock black peoples way of speaking to their face?
No, I don't because I am not a native English speaker and I couldn't care less what Americans do.
I just wanted to know wheter mocking any accent is racist.
Well I think mocking any accent CAN be hurtful and discrimatory. It obviously depends on context.
But mocking AAVE has a very long racist history and it’s been one of many ways to define black people in society as being unintelligent.
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The difference in power structures makes this a completely unrelated and pointless comparison. I suppose a well-off Black person literally MOCKING a poor British person could be a form of bigotry depending on the context.
So you think that average Brit has it better than any African American?
The AVERAGE Brit seems like an unfair comparison to ANY black person. Shouldn’t it be the average African American?
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The different skin color emoji thing is the perfect encapsulation of Social Studies Warrior madness inspired political correctness.
It's a yellow face, you bunch of fragile fucks. It's not white. Hell, if anything the Asians should've been offended.
Legit I think it was more a representation thing. People wanted emojis that would represent their skin color.
Like, how is that a "perfect encapsulation of [...] madness", the adults weren't claiming the yellow emoji was racist or anything. Just that a lack of representation was wrong.
How does it hurt you that they included normal skin colors in emojis?
Also, Cream - shut the fuck up and leave. You're mentally ill. Seek help.
Y'all would think sincerity and caring = mentally ill lmao
Because now we have people losing their shit over (white) people sending emojis that don't match their skin color, calling it insensitive at best and insinuating or accusing them of being racist at worst.
I mean, a very small percentage of people are gunna lose their shit over lots of things so that's the first thing you gotta get over.
More importantly though, it is a conversation that should take place. Like, you have to actively choose to send a black emoji, you're making some kind of statement there. Nobody is suggesting that we make it illegal for white people to send black emojis, but racial insensitivity doesn't just manifest in real life, it can manifest on the internet too. There's nothing extreme about that Code Switch post, I think it's a measured look at this kind of thing.
I mean, y'all already talked to death about this, I just wanted to point out that emoji representation isn't madness. Being incensed over people talking about emoji representation is a little extreme though.
It's so fucking trivial and basically requires an person to automatically assume dinner of the worst possible intentions of motives on sending a different skin color emoji. Assuming the worst of people is exactly the problem we have in general.
It's not a conversation that needs to take place. It's a thing people need to get over.
See I don't think it requires a person to automatically assume the worst of possible intentions.
It just requires a person be genuinely curious as to why a white person would actively choose to send out black emojis. It's not some random happenstance, there is a reason. Also, it's not necessarily trivial, it could in fact be malicious.
But right there you're still assuming I'll intention.
"What reason could you POSSIBLY have to send a different skin color emoji... unlesssssss....."
Who gives a shit why they're using it if there is no clear ill intent? Just accept it and move on instead of making it into some big drama.
If the person is clearly acting maliciously, then yes, it's wrong and they need to be told to stop.
Wait see here's the thing, you're expecting a few things:
1) "unlesssssss" like, that's not at all what it's about. They could be using black emojis for whatever, but they had to actively choose to use them so there was a reason at one point. Whether it's out of ignorance or misguided solidarity or prejudice or whatever. Talking about that with someone isn't attacking them or judging them.
2) That I or any other social studies warrior gets worked up at every misuse of emoji skin color. If my white friend was doing it, I'd talk to them, if some rando online is doing it, I can't police every rando online. If someone ITT does it (which seems likely, cause there are a bunch of racists ITT) I'd talk about it cause this is where I'm at.
I'm sure you've heard the intent argument before so I'm not going to speak all about that, but no ill intent does not mean no one gets hurt.
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But mocking AAVE has a very long racist history and it’s been one of many ways to define black people in society as being unintelligent.
Why do you equate AAVE with intelligence, Cream? What's wrong with AAVE?
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:ufup LET MY PPLS GOES
:success nah
:leon YOU REFUTE THE BLACK EMOJI
:beli eh
:jawalrus WE WILL BRING A WAR
:larry eh
:gladbron YOU STILL DOUBT US?
:PP you won't do a thing
:hitler YOU CRAFT YOUR OWN PERIL
:win we got the stuff you want
:flabbypd WHAT SAY YOU?
:gaben we got your goods, we're not scared
:cac THESE FOOLS KNOW NOT WHAT WE WANT
:huh hrm let me think
:girlaff :taylor :popular hey there
:rkelly uh
:mjcry Ma.. mah POWerrr
:journo
:shaqc PEACE?
:wow
:respect
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The AVERAGE Brit seems like an unfair comparison to ANY black person. Shouldn’t it be the average African American?
Okay. Let's try something a bit fairer. What about an African American who does an Apu accent? Racist?
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Well I think mocking any accent CAN be hurtful and discrimatory. It obviously depends on context.
But mocking AAVE has a very long racist history and it’s been one of many ways to define black people in society as being unintelligent.
Fair point.
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But mocking AAVE has a very long racist history and it’s been one of many ways to define black people in society as being unintelligent.
Why do you equate AAVE with intelligence, Cream? What's wrong with AAVE?
I obviously don’t, and I know you understand what I meant. Please stop deflecting. I was saying that western society has a long history of treating AAVE as one of many reasons black people are unintelligent. But I know that you knew that’s what I was saying and you’re obviously trying to troll me
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:ufup LET MY PPLS GOES
:success nah
:leon YOU REFUTE THE BLACK EMOJI
:beli eh
:jawalrus WE WILL BRING A WAR
:larry eh
:gladbron YOU STILL DOUBT US?
:PP you won't do a thing
:hitler YOU CRAFT YOUR OWN PERIL
:win we got the stuff you want
:flabbypd WHAT SAY YOU?
:gaben we got your goods, we're not scared
:cac THESE FOOLS KNOW NOT WHAT WE WANT
:huh hrm let me think
:girlaff :taylor :popular hey there
:rkelly uh
:mjcry Ma.. mah POWerrr
:journo
:shaqc PEACE?
:wow
:respect
Someone call Bobberts. This is the leaked script for the next Disney Star Wars movie.
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Ricky Gervais's new stand up on Netflix is pretty great and he talks about the exact thing that is winding Cream up:
People confuse the subject of the joke with the target of the joke, and they're very rarely the same.
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The AVERAGE Brit seems like an unfair comparison to ANY black person. Shouldn’t it be the average African American?
Okay. Let's try something a bit fairer. What about an African American who does an Apu accent? Racist?
Yeah I think that’s racist.
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:ufup LET MY PPLS GOES
:success nah
:leon YOU REFUTE THE BLACK EMOJI
:beli eh
:jawalrus WE WILL BRING A WAR
:larry eh
:gladbron YOU STILL DOUBT US?
:PP you won't do a thing
:hitler YOU CRAFT YOUR OWN PERIL
:win we got the stuff you want
:flabbypd WHAT SAY YOU?
:gaben we got your goods, we're not scared
:cac THESE FOOLS KNOW NOT WHAT WE WANT
:huh hrm let me think
:girlaff :taylor :popular hey there
:rkelly uh
:mjcry Ma.. mah POWerrr
:journo
:shaqc PEACE?
:wow
:respect
“These distinguished black fellows love our white women and that’s all you need to control them.” That’s literally the joke you just made.
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I obviously don’t, and I know you understand what I meant. Please stop deflecting. I was saying that western society has a long history of treating AAVE as one of many reasons black people are unintelligent. But I know that you knew that’s what I was saying and you’re obviously trying to troll me
Hey, don't say western when you mean American. In Europe we mock and hate everyone, that's why we have managed to start so many wars. :smug
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I obviously don’t, and I know you understand what I meant. Please stop deflecting. I was saying that western society has a long history of treating AAVE as one of many reasons black people are unintelligent. But I know that you knew that’s what I was saying and you’re obviously trying to troll me
I actually wasn't - it's the same when the Islamists went apeshit about the Allah is Gay flyers. It's only inflammatory if you believe there's something inherently wrong with being gay. Seemed to me that you were saying that AAVE should not be used under any circumstance because it's equated with low intelligence.
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The AVERAGE Brit seems like an unfair comparison to ANY black person. Shouldn’t it be the average African American?
Okay. Let's try something a bit fairer. What about an African American who does an Apu accent? Racist?
Yeah I think that’s racist.
So by your own logic black people have power over indian people?
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Ricky Gervais's new stand up on Netflix is pretty great and he talks about the exact thing that is winding Cream up:
People confuse the subject of the joke with the target of the joke, and they're very rarely the same.
But it's hurtful nonetheless. :maf
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Yeah I think that’s racist.
Even if he's punching up?
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Ricky Gervais's new stand up on Netflix is pretty great and he talks about the exact thing that is winding Cream up:
People confuse the subject of the joke with the target of the joke, and they're very rarely the same.
So, a joke can have multiple subjects tho.
Joking that I'm racist cause I use y'all, and doing that by using hyperbolic caricatured AAVE, is racist.
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But mocking AAVE has a very long racist history and it’s been one of many ways to define black people in society as being unintelligent.
Why do you equate AAVE with intelligence, Cream? What's wrong with AAVE?
He's saying that AAVE is often seen as a sign of stupidity. Why do you want to twist it the other way?
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The AVERAGE Brit seems like an unfair comparison to ANY black person. Shouldn’t it be the average African American?
Okay. Let's try something a bit fairer. What about an African American who does an Apu accent? Racist?
Yeah I think that’s racist.
So by your own logic black people have power over indian people?
Minorities can and often do propagate racism against each other. I believe mocking Indian people for their accents, especially if you’re creating a stereo typical character like apu, is wrong. So in that specific context yeah and individual black person would have that power over Indian person through mocking them.
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Joking that I'm racist
It's not a joke.
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I obviously don’t, and I know you understand what I meant. Please stop deflecting. I was saying that western society has a long history of treating AAVE as one of many reasons black people are unintelligent. But I know that you knew that’s what I was saying and you’re obviously trying to troll me
I actually wasn't - it's the same when the Islamists went apeshit about the Allah is Gay flyers. It's only inflammatory if you believe there's something inherently wrong with being gay. Seemed to me that you were saying that AAVE should not be used under any circumstance because it's equated with low intelligence.
No I’m obviously saying that people should stop equating the people who use it with a low intelligence
Why are the only two options with you people always be extremely racist and pretend race doesn’t exist
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Thanks TwoBitNate, I blame you for all this shit.
Is it hate EightBitNate week on here something? :'(
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Why are the only two options with you people always be extremely racist and pretend race doesn’t exist
Because if we all pretended race doesn't exist and stopped trying to hold others responsible for things that happened hundreds of years before they were fucking born, Trump wouldn't have happened?
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What if a guy taught a pug to use black slang words
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Why are the only two options with you people always be extremely racist and pretend race doesn’t exist
Because if we all pretended race doesn't exist and stopped trying to hold others responsible for things that happened hundreds of years before they were fucking born, Trump wouldn't have happened?
Racism and oppression still occurs on a national scale every day. Colorblindness doesn’t work and has been proven to make inequality worse. The majority is still benefiting from those things that happened hundreds of years ago and also are benefiting from what’s happening right now
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Thanks TwoBitNate, I blame you for all this shit.
Is it hate EightBitNate week on here something? :'(
I dont dislike you, but your recent actions have disappointed me son.
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Joking that I'm racist
It's not a joke.
Alright I'll bite, how am I racist?
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Thanks TwoBitNate, I blame you for all this shit.
Is it hate EightBitNate week on here something? :'(
I dont dislike you, but your recent actions have disappointed me son.
Such as
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Ricky Gervais's new stand up on Netflix is pretty great and he talks about the exact thing that is winding Cream up:
People confuse the subject of the joke with the target of the joke, and they're very rarely the same.
So, a joke can have multiple subjects tho.
Joking that I'm racist cause I use y'all, and doing that by using hyperbolic caricatured AAVE, is racist.
Then how would you frame the joke so it's not racist?
You guys are saying that absurdist parody is racist, regardless of the context its being done in. If you're going to make the claim, then at least tell us how you'd frame the joke yourself.
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Because if we all pretended race doesn't exist and stopped trying to hold others responsible for things that happened hundreds of years before they were fucking born, Trump wouldn't have happened?
Man, I had a hunch you were a simpleton, but I didn't realize to quite what extent your brow slopes.
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"Ya'll shouldn't be appropriatin' dem emojis mah niccas" - marrec probably
Hey! Another racist on the bore. Shocker
And yet It still post here. :thinking What does that say about It? :thinking
"But I'm black, ya'll! I can't be racist!"
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Black comedians have been using 'white voice' to make someone sound nerdy and corny for years and I have never once considered it racist.
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Ricky Gervais's new stand up on Netflix is pretty great and he talks about the exact thing that is winding Cream up:
People confuse the subject of the joke with the target of the joke, and they're very rarely the same.
So, a joke can have multiple subjects tho.
Joking that I'm racist cause I use y'all, and doing that by using hyperbolic caricatured AAVE, is racist.
Then how would you frame the joke so it's not racist?
You guys are saying that absurdist parody is racist, regardless of the context its being done in. If you're going to make the claim, then at least tell us how you'd frame the joke yourself.
If the point of the joke is specifically that marrec pretends to be black then I would make that joke without actually mocking the way black people speak.
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(https://abagond.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/aunt-jemima.jpeg)
All this shows me is that white people have always been clever with marketing. :doge
And let's not pretend black people don't do this with white people all the time. It's hilarious when Chris Rock does it, but not when a white guy does it? It's about fucking context.
Yes, marketing in this form is fucked up, but that doesn't mean other forms of imitation are. Was Robert Downey Jr in Tropic Thunder racist to you?
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Ricky Gervais's new stand up on Netflix is pretty great and he talks about the exact thing that is winding Cream up:
People confuse the subject of the joke with the target of the joke, and they're very rarely the same.
So, a joke can have multiple subjects tho.
Joking that I'm racist cause I use y'all, and doing that by using hyperbolic caricatured AAVE, is racist.
Then how would you frame the joke so it's not racist?
You guys are saying that absurdist parody is racist, regardless of the context its being done in. If you're going to make the claim, then at least tell us how you'd frame the joke yourself.
If the point of the joke is specifically that marrec pretends to be black then I would make that joke without actually mocking the way black people speak.
So make the joke. I am genuinely curious.
Also I want to trick marrec into making fun of himself
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Ricky Gervais's new stand up on Netflix is pretty great and he talks about the exact thing that is winding Cream up:
People confuse the subject of the joke with the target of the joke, and they're very rarely the same.
So, a joke can have multiple subjects tho.
Joking that I'm racist cause I use y'all, and doing that by using hyperbolic caricatured AAVE, is racist.
Then how would you frame the joke so it's not racist?
You guys are saying that absurdist parody is racist, regardless of the context its being done in. If you're going to make the claim, then at least tell us how you'd frame the joke yourself.
That specific absurdist parody is racist because it's often not used as a joke, but instead used to denigrate the intelligence of black people.
I'd probably just frame the joke using AAVE without the hyperbolic parody?
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Because if we all pretended race doesn't exist and stopped trying to hold others responsible for things that happened hundreds of years before they were fucking born, Trump wouldn't have happened?
Man, I had a hunch you were a simpleton, but I didn't realize to quite what extent your brow slopes.
I don't know about that colorblind stuff, but what Marrec and Cream are doing sure as hell ain't helping anyone(aside from their own mental coping mechanisms).
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Black comedians have been using 'white voice' to make someone sound nerdy and corny for years and I have never once considered it racist.
Maybe it is racist, I don’t know but probably not. -shrug- but the difference in power dynamics makes it completely toothless, and a black person making fun of the way white people talk (rather than a specific white person which can obviously be mean and hurtful) doesn’t actually have any negative effect on white people. Certainly not any demonstrable effect.
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Ricky Gervais's new stand up on Netflix is pretty great and he talks about the exact thing that is winding Cream up:
People confuse the subject of the joke with the target of the joke, and they're very rarely the same.
So, a joke can have multiple subjects tho.
Joking that I'm racist cause I use y'all, and doing that by using hyperbolic caricatured AAVE, is racist.
Then how would you frame the joke so it's not racist?
You guys are saying that absurdist parody is racist, regardless of the context its being done in. If you're going to make the claim, then at least tell us how you'd frame the joke yourself.
If the point of the joke is specifically that marrec pretends to be black then I would make that joke without actually mocking the way black people speak.
So make the joke. I am genuinely curious.
Also I want to trick marrec into making fun of himself
Man you don't need to trick me into being self-deprecating lol
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Cream and Marrec are humourless robots confirmed.
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Thanks TwoBitNate, I blame you for all this shit.
Is it hate EightBitNate week on here something? :'(
It's always "shit on the worst poster of the Bore that brought It here" day.
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Black comedians have been using 'white voice' to make someone sound nerdy and corny for years and I have never once considered it racist.
Maybe it is racist, I don’t know but probably not. -shrug- but the difference in power dynamics makes it completely toothless, and a black person making fun of the way white people talk (rather than a specific white person which can obviously be mean and hurtful) doesn’t actually have any negative effect on white people. Certainly not any demonstrable effect.
Your so powerless, your race so powerless, you need help from other white people :doge
If i were black i think i'd hate you even more.
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(https://abagond.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/aunt-jemima.jpeg)
All this shows me is that white people have always been clever with marketing. :doge
And let's not pretend black people don't do this with white people all the time. It's hilarious when Chris Rock does it, but not when a white guy does it? It's about fucking context.
Yes, marketing in this form is fucked up, but that doesn't mean other forms of imitation are. Was Robert Downey Jr in Tropic Thunder racist to you?
No I don’t think so because it was specifically a commentary on that kind of racism and the movie consistently proves to you that it understands the problem. Part of it is also that RDJ didn’t do a typical blackface with the inky skin, red lipstick etc. he actually attempted to embody a black person and the movie uses the contradiction and racism to make a statement. The point that what he’s doing is racist is completely the point
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Cream and Marrec are humourless robots confirmed.
Cream and marrec Hm...
Marrec is an anagram of cream :ohhh
spoiler (click to show/hide)
If you discount the second R, but close enough :trumps
marrec doxxed! :doge
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Cream and Marrec are humourless robots confirmed.
If A black person doesn’t find mocking AAVE funny then they don’t like any comedy? Is that how it works?
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Joking that I'm racist
It's not a joke.
Alright I'll bite, how am I racist?
If you have to ask :gurl
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Joking that I'm racist
It's not a joke.
Alright I'll bite, how am I racist?
If you have to ask :gurl
Then I can't afford it?
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Thought experiment:
At what point in the future would poking fun at minorities, for example black people, NOT be considered racist?
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Marrec is ok in my book for EXPOSING your thursT bitches on that pedo teacher. 👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀
It, meanwhile. :donot :nope
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Cream and Marrec are humourless robots confirmed.
If A black person doesn’t find mocking AAVE funny then they don’t like any comedy? Is that how it works?
(http://i.imgur.com/XON8PYn.jpg)
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What's your endgame Cream? What is it you'd like to accomplish here because all i see is pweease pweease help us we're an oppressed group :stahp
Didn't the Social Studies Warrior movement try and pull shit with 'white cis males" ? what happened? The "alt-right" mobilized, created endless meme glory and helped elect a fucking lunatic for no other purpose but to say "FUCK YOU look at these lolz"
I'm not sure what you want, maybe do the same?
:idont
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Thought experiment:
At what point in the future would poking fun at minorities, for example black people, NOT be considered racist?
Man, I don't have any authority on this, but I don't think poking fun at minorities is ALWAYS racist.
Being racist while poking fun at minorities tho...
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EMOJI CULTURE WAR 2: THE WE ARE NOT EQUAL THE SEQUELl
:ufup LET MY PPLS GOES
:success nah
:leon YOU REFUTE THE BLACK EMOJI
:beli eh
:jawalrus WE WILL BRING A WAR
:larry eh
:gladbron YOU STILL DOUBT US?
:PP you won't do a thing
:hitler YOU CRAFT YOUR OWN PERIL
:win we got the stuff you want
:flabbypd WHAT SAY YOU?
:gaben we got your goods, we're not scared
:cac THESE FOOLS KNOW NOT WHAT WE WANT
:huh hrm let me think
:girlaff :taylor :popular hey there
:rkelly uh
:mjcry Ma.. mah POWerrr
:journo
:shaqc PEACE?
:wow
:respect
“These distinguished black fellows love our white women and that’s all you need to control them.” That’s literally the joke you just made.
:gurl OLD DEAL IS OFF
:oreilly new phone who dis
:phil WE ONLY CARE ABOUT BLACK DICKS
:iface
:mouf BLACK BOIS CUZ WE BITRANS LG BEE t model,
:pacspit LATEST HOTTEST iBONE, BLACK DICC
:umad GAME OVER WHITE EMOJIS
:what
:checkit okay but what if
:nothot NO WHATIFF BBC OR GTFO
:whatsthedeal what if we can make a deal EH?
:yeshrug NO WHITE GIRLS ANYMORE
:idont but then I don't understand
:confused UNDERSTAND WHAT
:neo that ho over there
:salute NO THOTS ONLY BLACK DICC
:trumps so you say but uh
:putin whats that over there?
:confused
:dolezal HEY MY FELLOW PROUD BROTHERS AND SISTERS
:stan uh oh
:holeup FUCCCCCCCK
:noah THE WHITE GIRLS ARE COMING FROM INSIDE THE BUILDING
:dolezal BLACK DICC PRIDE!
:snoop THE ENTERPRISE ...
:fabulous ... IS OVER
:anhuld
:aweshum TOLD y'ALL IT NEVER WORK
:comeon SHUTUP MARREC
:ohyou truce?
:playa
And then there was peace through out the land...
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Why is bork trying to make this like Ree? locking threads so he can purge posts to then reopen? geesh
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EMOJI CULTURE WAR 2: THE WE ARE NOT EQUAL THE SEQUELl
:ufup LET MY PPLS GOES
:success nah
:leon YOU REFUTE THE BLACK EMOJI
:beli eh
:jawalrus WE WILL BRING A WAR
:larry eh
:gladbron YOU STILL DOUBT US?
:PP you won't do a thing
:hitler YOU CRAFT YOUR OWN PERIL
:win we got the stuff you want
:flabbypd WHAT SAY YOU?
:gaben we got your goods, we're not scared
:cac THESE FOOLS KNOW NOT WHAT WE WANT
:huh hrm let me think
:girlaff :taylor :popular hey there
:rkelly uh
:mjcry Ma.. mah POWerrr
:journo
:shaqc PEACE?
:wow
:respect
“These distinguished black fellows love our white women and that’s all you need to control them.” That’s literally the joke you just made.
:gurl OLD DEAL IS OFF
:oreilly new phone who dis
:phil WE ONLY CARE ABOUT BLACK DICKS
:iface
:mouf BLACK BOIS CUZ WE BITRANS LG BEE t model,
:pacspit LATEST HOTTEST iBONE, BLACK DICC
:umad GAME OVER WHITE EMOJIS
:what
:checkit okay but what if
:nothot NO WHATIFF BBC OR GTFO
:whatsthedeal what if we can make a deal EH?
:yeshrug NO WHITE GIRLS ANYMORE
:idont but then I don't understand
:confused UNDERSTAND WHAT
:neo that ho over there
:salute NO THOTS ONLY BLACK DICC
:trumps so you say but uh
:putin whats that over there?
:confused
:dolezal HEY MY FELLOW PROUD BROTHERS AND SISTERS
:stan uh oh
:holeup FUCCCCCCCK
:noah THE WHITE GIRLS ARE COMING FROM INSIDE THE BUILDING
:dolezal BLACK DICC PRIDE!
:snoop THE ENTERPRISE ...
:fabulous ... IS OVER
:anhuld
:aweshum TOLD y'ALL IT NEVER WORK
:comeon SHUTUP MARREC
:ohyou truce?
:playa
And then there was peace through out the land...
Wow I remember when you were trying to be subtle about your racism. What happened?
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So is the RE thread gonna get unlocked? I honestly don’t give a shit about your guys’ petty squabbles.
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Why is bork trying to make this like Ree? locking threads so he can purge posts to then reopen? geesh
Probably cause momo was crying about it
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Just lock Cream and marrec in this thread - board fixed
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Of course it will be re-opened. As soon as Bork is done wasting his time.
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Just ban Cream and marrec - board fixed
Yeah need to keep the racist transphobic safe space free of any consideration given to minorities intact
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You're right. It's pretty racist. I left out the asian emojis. Totally non-inclusive.
:miyamoto
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Why are the only two options with you people always be extremely racist and pretend race doesn’t exist
Because if we all pretended race doesn't exist and stopped trying to hold others responsible for things that happened hundreds of years before they were fucking born, Trump wouldn't have happened?
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-07-19/redlining-never-went-away
https://apnews.com/c018fd2a637244e58a0a44a44f0847b4
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/01/jpmorgan-lawsuit-discrimination/513494/
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-wells-lending-settlement/wells-fargo-to-pay-175-million-in-race-discrimination-probe-idUSBRE86B0V220120712
Come again?
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Just lock Cream and marrec in this thread - board fixed
Sorry I messed up your safe space y'all
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Just lock Cream and marrec in this thread - board fixed
Sorry I messed up your safe space y'all
Essentially:spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://i.imgur.com/n8umjWj.png)
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So is any talk of the r-word or the g-word in this thread period bannable?
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the what word
reeee and gaf?
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Racism and oppression still occurs on a national scale every day. Colorblindness doesn’t work and has been proven to make inequality worse. The majority is still benefiting from those things that happened hundreds of years ago and also are benefiting from what’s happening right now
I don't know about completely pretending race doesn't exist, but the obsession with race, this hyper-racial politics coming out of the Left isn't doing any good. When you have black people freaking out over white people having dreadlocks, for instance, it becomes a little harder to argue the commonalities between races. Everyone would agree that you shouldn't be judged by skin colour and that doesn't determine character, but this is within a backdrop of rampant identity politics where racial difference almost seems reinforced by the nature of the attention given to it rather than undermined. It seems to run counter to the real goals.
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Just lock Cream and marrec in this thread - board fixed
Sorry I messed up your safe space y'all
Essentially:spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://i.imgur.com/n8umjWj.png)
Not what we said at all. But nice try. And by nice, I mean horrible.
It’s pretty hilarious how the bore becomes the Era when faced with opinions they don’t like... hmmm 🤔
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Just ban Cream and marrec - board fixed
Yeah need to keep the racist transphobic safe space free of any consideration given to minorities intact
I didn’t think you’d keep posting here after the first week tbh. But good on you for having thicker skin than I thought lol.
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the what word
reeee and gaf?
Republicans and gentiles
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So is any talk of the r-word or the g-word in this thread period bannable?
One second after being told to go to another thread - attempts to start conversation about same topic
You are a two year old mentally
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To continue from where we left off:
Cream and Marrec are humourless robots confirmed.
If A black person doesn’t find mocking AAVE funny then they don’t like any comedy? Is that how it works?
No, I came to that conclusion because neither of you could re-write the joke.
I also took into account all of your previous posts.
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Just ban Cream and marrec - board fixed
Yeah need to keep the racist transphobic safe space free of any consideration given to minorities intact
I didn’t think you’d keep posting here after the first week tbh. But good on you for having thicker skin than I thought lol.
When you are bigendered you have double skin thickness.
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To continue from where we left off:
Cream and Marrec are humourless robots confirmed.
If A black person doesn’t find mocking AAVE funny then they don’t like any comedy? Is that how it works?
No, I came to that conclusion because neither of you could re-write the joke.
I also took into account all of your previous posts.
It's a bad joke to start off with tho, not particularly funny.
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I actually agree. It was a pretty lazy joke
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Just lock Cream and marrec in this thread - board fixed
Sorry I messed up your safe space y'all
Essentially:spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://i.imgur.com/n8umjWj.png)
Not what we said at all. But nice try. And by nice, I mean horrible.
It’s pretty hilarious how the bore becomes the Era when faced with opinions they don’t like... hmmm 🤔
Alright, here's one for you as well: spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://i.imgur.com/RjwBtsD.jpg)
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Talk about not being able to adapt a joke...
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Just lock Cream and marrec in this thread - board fixed
Sorry I messed up your safe space y'all
Essentially:spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://i.imgur.com/n8umjWj.png)
Not what we said at all. But nice try. And by nice, I mean horrible.
It’s pretty hilariou how the bore becomes the Era when faced with opinions they don’t like... hmmm 🤔
Complete with pariahing the people being antagonized while not touching the instigators and antagonists.
The irony of that thread gets thicker and thicker.
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I won't tolerate this mod oppression.
Brothers, sisters and Cream join me on twitter with the hashtag #IstandwiththeCream
We will bring down the entire rotten bore system of oppression with some good ol' twitter activism.
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I won't tolerate this mod oppression.
Brothers, sisters and Cream join me on twitter with the hashtag #IstandwiththeCream
We will bring down the entire rotten bore system of oppression with some good ol' twitter activism.
Most of the morons in that thread have always been a walking farce for about a year since it jumped the shark, but crying for months about Cream, the biased moderation that insulates the worst posters because they are sympathetic to their viewpoints, the safe spacing, and then turning around and Reeeee Cream after finally showing up and not cowering after the dogpiles. :neogaf
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Just lock Cream and marrec in this thread - board fixed
Sorry I messed up your safe space y'all
Essentially:spoiler (click to show/hide)
(https://i.imgur.com/n8umjWj.png)
Not what we said at all. But nice try. And by nice, I mean horrible.
It’s pretty hilariou how the bore becomes the Era when faced with opinions they don’t like... hmmm 🤔
Complete with pariahing the people being antagonized while not touching the instigators and antagonists.
The irony of that thread gets thicker and thicker.
(https://i.imgur.com/8ubGFLt.gif)
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nola you dogpile all the time
I don't dogpile. I was nice to cream and they were a total cunt to me. I can roll with that.
I imagine the problem was cream was actually slamming that report button like it was Reee.
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Thought experiment:
At what point in the future would poking fun at minorities, for example black people, NOT be considered racist?
Never. Uppercuts are the only valid form of punching. Also good comedy has to challenge the status quo somehow, or so I've heard.
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I don't dogpile.
:lol
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nola you dogpile all the time
I don't dogpile. I was nice to cream and they were a total cunt to me. I can roll with that.
I imagine the problem was cream was actually slamming that report button like it was Reee.
Dogpiling isn’t really what I’m laughing at. It’s a fairly unavoidable part of message boards. It’s the whining about it and than literally handling it in the same way everyone laughs at Reee for doing it.
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Are you talking about here? Because if you are...lol. Totally not what happened.
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If i call Optimus as Floptimus and Etiolate as Etoilet, will i be one of the good guys?
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Are you talking about here? Because if you are...lol. Totally not what happened.
:putin
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Telling someone to stfu when all they do is constantly shit post about the same topic and get into fake arguments is not the same thing as banning someone for being problematic for saying Daniel Bubrub isn't a shit game designer.
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Telling someone to stfu when all they do is constantly shit post about the same topic and get into fake arguments is not the same thing as banning someone for being problematic for saying Daniel Bubrub isn't a shit game designer.
And why was that topic getting harped on? Because the same 3-5 shit posters kept antagonizing the issue, often with ignorant insults peppered in with obvious trolls, and the response was to take the side of the antagonizers by way of singling out and threatening Cream for merely responding to the aggressions.
But honestly I don’t give a shit except for the meta irony of that thread and certain posters oblivious to it.
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cream is an antagonizer
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Cream got "threatened" with a ban if she kept going off topic with the same old shit. She literally has her own sanctioned thread for those discussions. Not that she would actually get banned anyway, this isn't ree.
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Telling someone to stfu when all they do is constantly shit post about the same topic and get into fake arguments is not the same thing as banning someone for being problematic for saying Daniel Bubrub isn't a shit game designer.
And why was that topic getting harped on? Because the same 3-5 shit posters kept antagonizing the issue, often with ignorant insults peppered in with obvious trolls, and the response was to take the side of the antagonizers by way of singling out and threatening Cream for merely responding to the aggressions.
It's because a thread that's about other forum idiocy was being shit-spammed with that crap. You guys were asked multiple times to go post about it elsewhere. The only reason Cream caught a ban is because he continued to go on about it after I said to quit it and post here. Notice that nothing is being censored, deleted, closed, or any of that crap and you're not being warned to "take it to PMs." Yeah, just like reeeeeee lolamirite ::)
I love it when people get serious over shitposting warz. :lol
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It's because a thread that's about other forum idiocy was being shit-spammed with that crap. You guys were asked multiple times to go post about it elsewhere. The only reason Cream caught a ban is because he continued to go on about it after I said to quit it and post here. Notice that nothing is being censored, deleted, closed, or any of that crap and you're not being warned to "take it to PMs." Yeah, just like reeeeeee lolamirite ::)
I love it when people get serious over shitposting warz. :lol
You know when you had that really chill teacher. Then you just pushed and pushed and then one day, the nice chill teacher kind of snapped and told you how he wasn't angry, just disappointed? Remember how you felt?
This is a bit like how that felt.
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:lol
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:batman
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cream is an antagonizer
Maybe, but after the initial foray of mod whining and attacks, compared to some of you yokels trolling and attacking Cream, Cream has been a downright saint around here.
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MODS HELP, bork moved my post to this thread, tainting my pure profile.
Wait...
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cream is an antagonizer
Maybe, but after the initial foray of mod whining and attacks, compared to some of you yokels trolling and attacking Cream, Cream has been a downright saint around here.
Is it really worth arguing over trolls fucking around with other trolls? :doge Ya'll can continue with all this dumb shit...just do it here.
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I'm loving how some shitposters are apparently more virtuous than other shitposters.
Cream knows exactly what he's doing and to make out otherwise singles you out as a disingenuous gas lighting pos.
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cream is an antagonizer
Maybe, but after the initial foray of mod whining and attacks, compared to some of you yokels trolling and attacking Cream, Cream has been a downright saint around here.
Cream, really? Some shit was too much, like the gender stuff i made a post about. But looking at his moronic behavior i personally don't feel like he deserves a nanny since he wants to play in big boy pants by intentionally bringing all that prolific shit from Resetera. *Que a joke for Cream posting in bad faith.*
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Wait, Cream is banned? If so, it’s pretty lame. I thought we didn’t ban people here. It’s not like Cream was the only person keeping that train going in the other forum thread.
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cream will be back just so I can finish my three act emoji play
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Which is NOT dogpiling, just to make that perfeclty clear.
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Cream got banned for two days. That was because he continued to post in the other thread after I asked everyone to post here. And this was the second time this has happened. Move on duders.
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Just in time for Easter, Lime sent his only son Cream who died for your soyboy sins.
You can still hang with him on reeee though.
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If the bore had a site wide code of enforced ethics like gaf or reset, then yeah bans would be based on whether you're a shit person saying shit things that aren't allowed.
However there are a lot of shit people saying shit things here who have been doing so for a long time. The thing is that they're not dragging every thread they post in to those subjects and causing arguments. Lots of people disagree with each other but they've learned to ignore each other or jab and move on. If you can't learn that lesson then you're probably gonna be insufferable.
It's not about antagonists and protagonists, it's about not constantly causing trouble and dominating the conversation.
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Which is NOT dogpiling, just to make that perfeclty clear.
I was trying to lighten the mood
and also make a point... which will have to wait for after EMOJI CULTURE WAR 3: RISE OF THE SENTIENCE
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Bore mods <3 #LeperBork
So after some mod gave a warning about misgendering Cream, some people kept doing it without consequence. Cream does what everyone here does and has general non-other-forum-related conversation in the other forum thread, gets warned, and then catches a ban when he kept doing it?
I think you simply banned Cream because you don’t like him. If fucking Assimilate can live here without catching bans, Cream should be able to.
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true
but now we get martyrdom cream when they return and that shall be glorious
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true
but now we get martyrdom cream when they return and that shall be glorious
I’m guessing Bork is kinda hoping Cream sees this ban as a “victory” over us—it will have confirmed to him that the Bore is a racist bigoted shithole—and doesn’t return. There’s a good chance that happens, too.
Leaves a bad taste in my mouth. All the shit that goes on here (me included), and going off topic suddenly becomes ban worthy.
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Lol shit has nothing to do with virtue. Cream hasn't done anything a lot of you don't do already, they're just on the other extreme which aggravated some of you.
Only shitposter worth a damn here is benji.
This is about ethics in shitlosting.
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Fuck, guys, we better get back to talking about Cream shit. We don’t want to catch bans for going off topic.
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Creamy shit?
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I did make a mistake in my emoji play.
"THE WHITE GIRLS ARE COMING FROM INSIDE THE BUILDING"
should have been
"THE WHITE GIRLS ARE COMING FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE PARTY 3"
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Creamy shit?
I just had a moderate one. Still pretty solid, but it’s like the outside was a thick pudding. Like maybe the solidity of a pudding that’s been in the freezer for a bit. Smelled like onion rings because I ate like 2 pounds of them yesterday.
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Creamy shit?
I just had a moderate one. Still pretty solid, but it’s like the outside was a thick pudding. Like maybe the solidity of a pudding that’s been in the freezer for a bit. Smelled like onion rings because I ate like 2 pounds of them yesterday.
Well there's your problem!
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Creamy shit?
I just had a moderate one. Still pretty solid, but it’s like the outside was a thick pudding. Like maybe the solidity of a pudding that’s been in the freezer for a bit. Smelled like onion rings because I ate like 2 pounds of them yesterday.
Well there's your problem!
They were delicious. I threw up like half of them after my first bottle of wine last night. Like all the liquid in the vomit was either wine or oil from the onion rings. It was a delicious event.
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I am a top tier giver of majestic posts :snob
Now enjoy Bernie Mac going full sambo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OemlBQqG380
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Lol shit has nothing to do with virtue. Cream hasn't done anything a lot of you don't do already, they're just on the other extreme which aggravated some of you.
Only shitposter worth a damn here is benji.
This is about ethics in shitlosting.
To be perfectly frank most people here aren't even shitposters save for someone like Samir and transhuman, both can be insufferable but harmless. The rest is a series of long diatribes and careposts much like Cream. It's fine if you don't like Cream, I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other, but banning them for the exact same shit multiple posters pull, including myself and you sometimes, is stupid.
I agree Bore mods <3
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banning them for the exact same shit multiple posters pull, including myself and you sometimes, is stupid.
Cream got banned for two days. That was because he continued to post in the other thread after I asked everyone to post here. And this was the second time this has happened. Move on duders.
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Scanned pass the thread and wondered why I had a post in here. Bork :bow2
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It's OK, they still have the Cindi account.
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cream is an antagonizer
Maybe, but after the initial foray of mod whining and attacks, compared to some of you yokels trolling and attacking Cream, Cream has been a downright saint around here.
Is it really worth arguing over trolls fucking around with other trolls? :doge
lol.
This is sort of a microcosm of what just happened.
Make a comment, get bombarded with trolling and pushback because it gets shit posters jimmies up you more empathize with, I attempt to address some of it, you come in and act like the person beyond the pale is the one just responding like a normal human being. Meanwhile, the trolls and shitposters are left untouched. Same shit Reee pulls.
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It's time for some soul searching, reflection, introspection and a tad of self-examination
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This thread title is what the US politico thread has turned into anyway. Redundant thread lock/shit bin/mods help.
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We have very little in the way of rules oh here, but I think we at least have enough respect for one another to not be the equivalent of a homeless person shouting about the bible on a train. I really cant care what distinguished mentally-challenged shit people feel they want to argue over, that's a choice you can all make for yourselves, what I do have a problem with is if you talk politics/identity politics or whatever garbage for more than a page or so in an unrelated thread.
I've been politely asking (less politely recently I guess) you guys to move your garbage fire every-time it gets longer than a page and half continuously or so and I think that's fair, we have a thread for all the stuff you guys are talking about and I don't go into the anime thread sperging about bad 90s movies and you wouldn't want to come into the NSFW thread and see I've been posting about my weekly DnD game.
If we can just do this one simple thing no one needs to be upset.
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This is about the ethics of keeping threads on topic :hitler
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I’m even more annoyed now that I’ve caught up on the politics thread and seen that Bork has ruined the sweet, sweet conflict between Cindi and Cream.
Bore mods <3 #BorkFail
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I’m even more annoyed now that I’ve caught up on the politics thread and seen that Bork has ruined the sweet, sweet conflict between Cindi and Cream.
Bore mods <3 #BorkFail
Yes, I was enjoying that.
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Cindi v Cream slapping each other in the face back and forth is what I’ve dreamed of since Cream showed up here. Now it’s ruined. Great job, Bork. You ruined Bore-a-Mania.
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So do you think Cream is on a discord somewhere right now, venting about the tyrannical Bore moderation?
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So do you think Cream is on a discord somewhere right now, bitching about the tyrannical Bore moderation?
I hope so. It’s as bullshit of a ban as anything on Resetera.
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You guys are joking obviously, and I don't think bork is in any way shape or form thin skinned, but I wouldn't pull the tyrannical bork meme the second after he actually had do something he probably didnt want to, bork laser has feelings to :goldberg
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You guys are joking obviously, and I don't think bork is in any way shape or form thin skinned, but I wouldn't pull the tyrannical bork meme the second after he actually had do something he probably didnt want to, bork laser has feelings to :goldberg
Nah. Bork wanted to do it. If he were interested in moderating, he’d have done something in the previously mentioned misgendering episode. I’m guessing there’s something about Cream’s intersectionality that makes Bork uncomfortable, so he decided to try to run her off the forum. It’s sad. Cream brought a lot of entertaining conflict.
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free cream dawg. it's not like the two threads they were posting in weren't already totally shitty anyway
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OK seriously though, please unban Cream and just tell him not to post in the resetera thread anymore. If this was a modern forum I'd assume you can do it through software but I know better. :P
I miss you Cream, you're hilarious.
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@TVC - Throwing a porcupine I lit on fire into a parliamentary session would also be entertaining, but not much so for parliament. I can appreciate you guys enjoying the artist known as cream, but when he comes back (and he said i can call him he if i just stick with one gender) encourage him to stay here when talking about cream stuff and post dumb posts in the dumb posts thread. Everyone wins.
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Bore mods <3 #LeperBork
So after some mod gave a warning about misgendering Cream, some people kept doing it without consequence. Cream does what everyone here does and has general non-other-forum-related conversation in the other forum thread, gets warned, and then catches a ban when he kept doing it?
I think you simply banned Cream because you don’t like him. If fucking Assimilate can live here without catching bans, Cream should be able to.
Yeah it’s pretty wack tbh. 👎🏻
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You guys are joking obviously, and I don't think bork is in any way shape or form thin skinned, but I wouldn't pull the tyrannical bork meme the second after he actually had do something he probably didnt want to, bork laser has feelings to :goldberg
:respect
I don't give a shit about Cream's posting antics. I do give a shit about that thread being shat up by it and other members do, too, hence complaints and even a PM or two about it. This place is pretty chill but sometimes you have to actual do some moderating. It usually leads to tired jokes about tyrant mods and whatnot. The usual. I see freenudemacusers has amped it up. :zzz
OK seriously though, please unban Cream and just tell him not to post in the resetera thread anymore. If this was a modern forum I'd assume you can do it through software but I know better. :P
Cream was warned more than once and continued to keep shitting up the thread. Find someone or something else to obsess over for a few days.
You guys are joking obviously, and I don't think bork is in any way shape or form thin skinned, but I wouldn't pull the tyrannical bork meme the second after he actually had do something he probably didnt want to, bork laser has feelings to :goldberg
Nah. Bork wanted to do it. If he were interested in moderating, he’d have done something in the previously mentioned misgendering episode. I’m guessing there’s something about Cream’s intersectionality that makes Bork uncomfortable, so he decided to try to run her off the forum. It’s sad. Cream brought a lot of entertaining conflict.
I'm starting to get worried about you, TVC. :(
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I like you, Bork. I just think you picked a strange time to actually moderate and it looks really weird.
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lol nudmac
My favorite thing is the continued illusion that the rest of the forum is any better than the gafreset forum. The other threads are either narrowly defined "what are you playing" or also shitty.
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Nothing strange about it. Second time that shit happened. Asked people to post here and moved all the posts over again. Cream continued to post in the other thread about it. That's it. No conspiracy theories going on here, guys. I don't hate Cream, either- Who do you think approved Cream's account here in the first place?
I seriously don't care about any of the shit he generally posts about one way or the other. I know you guys are enjoying his lolz and want more lolz and he'll be back soon.
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Yeah, especially that one thread for intellectuals.
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Yeah, especially that one thread for intellectuals.
Hey now. I gave that a narrow topic but it attracted all the people that ride my nuts.
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Bork on his 2018 resetera mod campaign I see. Ofc wannabe gaf mod momo is running his community outreach campaign. I see u.
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eh everyone gets annoyed enough at internet shit eventually to snap and i'm shocked bork didn't hit that point with you dummies before this. you'll get over it. at worst cream doesn't come back. what a loss ::)
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Intentionally misgender and dog whistle racism :itagaki
Care post in response within a trash heap containment thread :rage
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the other forums thread hasn't been about other forums for probably over a year now, and cream is the one who catches a ban, not shitters like Optimus and Assimilate who do the exact same derailing but have been at it longer? Wack
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the other forums thread hasn't been about other forums for probably over a year now, and cream is the one who catches a ban, not shitters like Optimus and Assimilate who do the exact same derailing but have been at it longer? Wack
I’m guessing the PMs bork received were from the likes of them.
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Am I the only one that just wants to savor all the fuckery? I mean, that other thread is the fuckiest one of the forum. Why worry about preserving its sanctity so much?
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the other forums thread hasn't been about other forums for probably over a year now, and cream is the one who catches a ban, not shitters like Optimus and Assimilate who do the exact same derailing but have been at it longer? Wack
They stopped when asked to.
It's a two day ban, guys. Get over it. You're blowing up worse than REEEE users.
:ufup
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The other forums thread has basically been the 'bitch about identity politics thread' for as long as I've been here. It's always doddered into that territory before doddering back towards making fun of people for not knowing how to blow their nose without getting boogers all over their hands or something. On the other hand, it did feel like it was becoming a bit excessive lately to the point where any posts made about GAF or REE were pretty much totally ignored in favor of getting into a dick wagging contest with Cream or marrec. .
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the other forums thread hasn't been about other forums for probably over a year now, and cream is the one who catches a ban, not shitters like Optimus and Assimilate who do the exact same derailing but have been at it longer? Wack
I'm sure when they ignore their own containment thread and two subsequent requests to post within it as opposed to the OF thread, they'll cop an extremely lengthy 48 hour ban.
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@TVC - Throwing a porcupine I lit on fire into a parliamentary session would also be entertaining, but not much so for parliament. I can appreciate you guys enjoying the artist known as cream, but when he comes back (and he said i can call him he if i just stick with one gender) encourage him to stay here when talking about cream stuff and post dumb posts in the dumb posts thread. Everyone wins.
The other forum thread is the all encompassing containment thread anyway. The battle for "keep it to making fun of other forums" was lost ages ago and you're not the only one who was bitching in THE thread about the dumb aughts era LGBT discussions. Especially when Cream isn't the only one who instigates it :yeshrug
bork is my boy, but the ban is as stupid and as inconsistent as anything at Resetera.
I think the battle was mostly lost when neogaf imploded, none of us have any real link with REE so it became a bit more harsh and mean spirited.
Also about cream not being the only one to instigate, this is how I see it mechanically working. People like Assimilate arent being clipped because afaik some loons have been banned in the years I've been here yet no one here gets banned for opinions. What they are doing is finding posts and disagreeing with them and then they have a few replies and counter replies furthering their standpoint. Event over. Not only does cream not bring in REE posts to start off their thought, their entire purpose is to come into that thread and argue about stuff for as many pages as it takes to make people close the thread, unfortunately the people he's engaging with are arguably even more persistent than him causing a blighted ground effect.
TBH there's only a handful of people that operate this way on the bore, and only two of them are active rn.
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Also this isnt worth any of our time, I just want to reiterate #ImWithBork
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Bork laid down some guidelines and The Entity didn't follow them. You're backed into a corner at that point and have to follow up.
The problem isn't Cream though, it's all the dipshits that can't resist responding constantly.
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@TVC - Throwing a porcupine I lit on fire into a parliamentary session would also be entertaining, but not much so for parliament. I can appreciate you guys enjoying the artist known as cream, but when he comes back (and he said i can call him he if i just stick with one gender) encourage him to stay here when talking about cream stuff and post dumb posts in the dumb posts thread. Everyone wins.
The other forum thread is the all encompassing containment thread anyway. The battle for "keep it to making fun of other forums" was lost ages ago and you're not the only one who was bitching in THE thread about the dumb aughts era LGBT discussions. Especially when Cream isn't the only one who instigates it :yeshrug
bork is my boy, but the ban is as stupid and as inconsistent as anything at Resetera.
I think the battle was mostly lost when neogaf imploded, none of us have any real link with REE so it became a bit more harsh and mean spirited.
Also about cream not being the only one to instigate, this is how I see it mechanically working. People like Assimilate arent being clipped because afaik some loons have been banned in the years I've been here yet no one here gets banned for opinions. What they are doing is finding posts and disagreeing with them and then they have a few replies and counter replies furthering their standpoint. Event over. Not only does cream not bring in REE posts to start off their thought, their entire purpose is to come into that thread and argue about stuff for as many pages as it takes to make people close the thread, unfortunately the people he's engaging with are arguably even more persistent than him causing a blighted ground effect.
TBH there's only a handful of people that operate this way on the bore, and only two of them are active rn.
This is the cream thread pls take your tangent elsewhere. Reported. :ufup
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What color do you think Cream's eyes are? :uguu
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On the other hand, it did feel like it was becoming a bit excessive lately to the point where any posts made about GAF or REE were pretty much totally ignored
Oh no not those reegaf threads about asswiping and being a social moron 🙍♂️
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#I'mWithHi...Her,,,uh..h..h..either.
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What color do you think Cream's eyes are? :uguu
bistre
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Momo sucking mod dick at a level not seen since Dennis stopped posting here
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Srs though does Cream do anything IRL besides post on gaming boards? What does she/he actually enjoy?
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All this over a single ban
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Free Creepy Stalker!
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Where is Steve youngblood when we need those momo mod campaign receipts? :doge
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All this over a single ban
They don’t happen often. It’s a very strange situation.
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Wow, Bork Youngblood going on a power trip over here! :badass
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All this over a single ban
They don’t happen often. It’s a very strange situation.
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71azht1WUpL._SY450_.jpg)
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Momo sucking mod dick at a level not seen since Dennis stopped posting here
Hey man, I know who butters my bread around here 50CentCarDriveOff.gif
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Free Creepy Stalker!
If only Creepy Stalker intentionally misgengered and dog whistled racism for lulz he might still be with us 🙍♂️
Unfortunately his crime was loving final fantasy too much. ( :doge)
Also if u complained about posts in the trash thread ur a lame :bolo
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All this over a single ban
They don’t happen often. It’s a very strange situation.
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71azht1WUpL._SY450_.jpg)
Really, I’d rather not believe that you’re letting forum bigots pull your strings. Nobody here would realistically be upset that the dumpster fire thread is extra dumpster fiery.
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All this over a single ban
They don’t happen often. It’s a very strange situation.
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71azht1WUpL._SY450_.jpg)
Really, I’d rather not believe that you’re letting forum bigots pull your strings. Nobody here would realistically be upset that the dumpster fire thread is extra dumpster fiery.
Dude. Seriously. Chill out. :lol Is this what shitposter withdrawal does to people?
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All this over a single ban
They don’t happen often. It’s a very strange situation.
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71azht1WUpL._SY450_.jpg)
Really, I’d rather not believe that you’re letting forum bigots pull your strings. Nobody here would realistically be upset that the dumpster fire thread is extra dumpster fiery.
Dude. Seriously. Chill out. :lol Is this what shitposter withdrawal does to people?
I’m sorry. I’m bored and have a lot of free time on my hands. You ruined Cindi vs. Cream. Why would I not be upset?
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If only we had true open transparency and inconsistent moderation instead of just inconsistent moderation :'(
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Ban moblin tbh
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If only we had true open transparency and inconsistent moderation instead of just inconsistent moderation :'(
Is this the hill you want to die on?
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If only we had true open transparency and inconsistent moderation instead of just inconsistent moderation :'(
Hey, we're very open about our inconsistent moderation, thank you very much!
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the other forums thread hasn't been about other forums for probably over a year now, and cream is the one who catches a ban, not shitters like Optimus and Assimilate who do the exact same derailing but have been at it longer? Wack
What if.... what if the other forums thread is actually about US?!
Anyway, I don’t know what happens to Dos Los Tacos, but he was a good mod and never would have let this happen.
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Anyway, I don’t know what happens to Dos Los Tacos, but he was a good mod and never would have let this happen.
I took over and perma-banned that filth into oblivion. And I'm gonna BAN YOU TOO. FULL BORK HEEL TURN
:heyman
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the other forums thread hasn't been about other forums for probably over a year now, and cream is the one who catches a ban, not shitters like Optimus and Assimilate who do the exact same derailing but have been at it longer? Wack
What if.... what if the other forums thread is actually about US?!
Anyway, I don’t know what happens to Dos Los Tacos, but he was a good mod and never would have let this happen.
Heard he got pinched when they found his number in Amir0x’s Hello Kitty cell phone.
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the other forums thread hasn't been about other forums for probably over a year now, and cream is the one who catches a ban, not shitters like Optimus and Assimilate who do the exact same derailing but have been at it longer? Wack
What if.... what if the other forums thread is actually about US?!
Anyway, I don’t know what happens to Dos Los Tacos, but he was a good mod and never would have let this happen.
Heard he got pinched when they found his number in Amir0x’s Hello Kitty cell phone.
Cream's ban has just been extended to three weeks.
#HEEL MOD
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#HEEL MOD
>Implying that Cream is a face
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Anyway, I don’t know what happens to Dos Los Tacos, but he was a good mod and never would have let this happen.
I took over and perma-banned that filth into oblivion. And I'm gonna BAN YOU TOO. FULL BORK HEEL TURN
:heyman
Clearly, Dos los Tacos is The people’s mod, and Bork is the corporate mod.
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the other forums thread hasn't been about other forums for probably over a year now, and cream is the one who catches a ban, not shitters like Optimus and Assimilate who do the exact same derailing but have been at it longer? Wack
What if.... what if the other forums thread is actually about US?!
Anyway, I don’t know what happens to Dos Los Tacos, but he was a good mod and never would have let this happen.
Heard he got pinched when they found his number in Amir0x’s Hello Kitty cell phone.
Cream's ban has just been extended to three weeks.
#HEEL MOD
But seriously, I don’t care as much as it seems I do. I really am just really bored and this is a new thing to dig on. I haven’t been out of bed for non-alcohol/food/drugs reasons since Friday and I’m going mad.
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It's OK, they still have the Cindi account.
(https://i.imgur.com/QPyE9EJ.gif)
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But seriously, I don’t care as much as it seems I do. I really am just really bored and this is a new thing to dig on
I know ;)
:respect
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Clearly, Dos los Tacos is The people’s mod, and Bork is the corporate mod.
He's more of a tweener. Stone Cold.
Etoilet is Mr Kennedy
nudemacusers is Ted Dibiase
...which would make TVC 15 Virgil
Cream is Orlando Jordan
Marrec is the local jobber.
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the other forums thread hasn't been about other forums for probably over a year now, and cream is the one who catches a ban, not shitters like Optimus and Assimilate who do the exact same derailing but have been at it longer? Wack
What if.... what if the other forums thread is actually about US?!
Anyway, I don’t know what happens to Dos Los Tacos, but he was a good mod and never would have let this happen.
Heard he got pinched when they found his number in Amir0x’s Hello Kitty cell phone.
Cream's ban has just been extended to three weeks.
#HEEL MOD
But seriously, I don’t care as much as it seems I do. I really am just really bored and this is a new thing to dig on. I haven’t been out of bed for non-alcohol/food/drugs reasons since Friday and I’m going mad.
You suckling on the mod teat now too bb? :-\
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I'll be honest guys. I witnessed Cream giving Cindi the business and I liked it. I felt it move!
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the other forums thread hasn't been about other forums for probably over a year now, and cream is the one who catches a ban, not shitters like Optimus and Assimilate who do the exact same derailing but have been at it longer? Wack
What if.... what if the other forums thread is actually about US?!
Anyway, I don’t know what happens to Dos Los Tacos, but he was a good mod and never would have let this happen.
Heard he got pinched when they found his number in Amir0x’s Hello Kitty cell phone.
Cream's ban has just been extended to three weeks.
#HEEL MOD
But seriously, I don’t care as much as it seems I do. I really am just really bored and this is a new thing to dig on. I haven’t been out of bed for non-alcohol/food/drugs reasons since Friday and I’m going mad.
You suckling on the mod teat now too bb? :-\
I’m still pissed about the Cream vs Cindi battle being ruined. It coulda been Rocky IV, but because of bork it was Batman vs Superman.
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I'll be honest guys. I witnessed Cream giving Cindi the business and I liked it. I felt it move!
Alright, that changed my whole perspective. Im on team #Cream as long as you lock him out of my forum shitting thread and put him into politics.
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Cream got banned for two days. That was because he continued to post in the other thread after I asked everyone to post here. And this was the second time this has happened. Move on duders.
You’re a bitch
Caveat: didn’t read any of it besides this post
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:doge
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:doge
:uguu
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In solidarity I will refrain from posting until cream does #silenceisopposition #ally
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We need more solidarity in silence.
I volunteer most of you.
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Clearly, Dos los Tacos is The people’s mod, and Bork is the corporate mod.
He's more of a tweener. Stone Cold.
Etoilet is Mr Kennedy
nudemacusers is Ted Dibiase
...which would make TVC 15 Virgil
Cream is Orlando Jordan
Marrec is the local jobber.
I demand to be Curt Hennig or Rick Rude or Sensational Sherri.
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Anyway, I don’t know what happens to Dos Los Tacos, but he was a good mod and never would have let this happen.
I took over and perma-banned that filth into oblivion. And I'm gonna BAN YOU TOO. FULL BORK HEEL TURN
:heyman
Tell me you're a Smash fan now, too. :ohhh
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^ :goty2
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^ :goty2
FULL HEEL TURN :phil
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TIMU: "We're finally gonna find out who's been allowing Tasty to post about Smash in the *fighting* games thread!!"
SUDDENLY, a robed figure appears.
(https://i.imgur.com/12qmDwb.gif)
Bork: "It was me, TIMU! IT WAS ME ALLLLLL ALONG, TIMU!" :phil
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Cream got banned for two days. That was because he continued to post in the other thread after I asked everyone to post here. And this was the second time this has happened. Move on duders.
You’re a bitch
Caveat: didn’t read any of it besides this post
Better a bitch than a little pussy
:trumps
#HEEL
In solidarity I will refrain from posting until cream does #silenceisopposition #ally
Oh, well in that case let's make it a perm.
:heyman
#HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEL
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A lot of you wrestling geeks would really get along with a good friend of mine named excelsiorleif
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the other forums thread hasn't been about other forums for probably over a year now, and cream is the one who catches a ban, not shitters like Optimus and Assimilate who do the exact same derailing but have been at it longer? Wack
When have i ever derailed anything? I mean, i definitely rail but derail? nah. :doge
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Doing rails :preach
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doing hot rails :lawd
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Where is Cream's meltdown? i don't see it
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it was more bork having a meltdown :shaq2
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You said what I was going to say filler :uguu
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Well, you guys have been pretty good about keeping everything contained in this thread, so maybe--
Oh. TVC shitposting elsewhere.
Oh well.
:trumps
#HEEL
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Well, you guys have been pretty good about keeping everything contained in this thread, so maybe--
Oh. TVC shitposting elsewhere.
Oh well.
:trumps
#HEEL
But I’ve only been shitposting on this topic in the appropriate thread.
I think.
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I demand to be Curt Hennig or Rick Rude or Sensational Sherri.
How about Gangrel?
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You bitch
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Well, TVC aside everyone has kept it in here.
So Cream's ban has been lifted in the interest of fairness.
(https://i.imgur.com/3TY6noR.jpg)
Not gonna be lenient if it happens again though. Keep the shit in here please.
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Well, TVC aside everyone has kept it in here.
So Cream's ban has been lifted in the interest of fairness.
(https://i.imgur.com/3TY6noR.jpg)
Not gonna be lenient if it happens again though. Keep the shit in here please.
I like to think of myself as a freedom fighter. I’m a good person and I righted a wrong today. Now someone contact Cindi and Cream and get them back in the politics thread.
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Now get out of MY YARD, bork.
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Well, TVC aside everyone has kept it in here.
So Cream's ban has been lifted in the interest of fairness.
(https://i.imgur.com/3TY6noR.jpg)
Not gonna be lenient if it happens again though. Keep the shit in here please.
I like to think of myself as a freedom fighter. I’m a good person and I righted a wrong today. Now someone contact Cindi and Cream and get them back in the politics thread.
Wrong. I saw a junkie in severe stages of withdrawal and took pity.
:snob
Now get out of MY YARD, bork.
Your ass is mine at Mania, bitch.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
...wait. Shit.
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Anyway, once/if Cream returns, I’d like everyone to frequently remind him that a death-obsessed, misogynistic misanthropist that loves watching suffering children and women and also thinks that it should be legal to kill homeless people saved him. SAVED HIM.
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Anyway, once/if Cream returns, I’d like everyone to frequently remind him that a death-obsessed, misogynistic misanthropist that loves watching suffering children and women and also thinks it should be legal to kill homeless people saved him. SAVED HIM.
Actually, I just missed nudemacusers.
:umad
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Anyway, once/if Cream returns, I’d like everyone to frequently remind him that a death-obsessed, misogynistic misanthropist that loves watching suffering children and women and also thinks it should be legal to kill homeless people saved him. SAVED HIM.
Actually, I just missed nudemacusers.
:umad
My story is the better narrative. Fuck your shitty booking.
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My story is the better narrative. Fuck your shitty booking.
(https://i.imgur.com/uLo7Fek.gif)
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I need to take a nap or this hangover ain’t going away. Love you, Bork. And it really was more boredom and too much free time than anything else. I’ll be back in like 5 hours, shitfaced.
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and I’m going to post random shit in random threads.
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Cream honestly tried to pull off the whole "cindi vs cream" slap fight as if they're not the same person? :neogaf
Seriously, that one is truly a disturbing person. The levels of troll this character will go to.... is there no limit?
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Cream freed by White Man. You guys should like the sound of that.
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I'll be honest guys. I witnessed Cream giving Cindi the business and I liked it. I felt it move!
Cream didn’t give shit besides cliches. :lol You’re still a punk, Cream.
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I'll be honest guys. I witnessed Cream giving Cindi the business and I liked it. I felt it move!
Cream didn’t give shit besides cliches. :lol You’re still a punk, Cream.
Save it for the next PPV, Cindi!
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I'll be honest guys. I witnessed Cream giving Cindi the business and I liked it. I felt it move!
Cream didn’t give shit besides cliches. :lol You’re still a punk, Cream.
Cindi, you treat politics like a game of Yu-Gi-Oh, but you’re the kid who was too stupid to know the rules so you just play whatever cards you think had the coolest art.
Black Trans White’s Bitch.
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too stupid to know the rules?
can of worms there sister.
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too stupid to know the rules?
can of worms there sister.
But have you considered
That I wanted to get banned
🤔
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Yu-Gi-Oh! :aah :preach
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So this thread is where all the cool kids are, huh?
AND Cream and Cindi are fighting?
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-rEapXltEdto/VMaltJpSLLI/AAAAAAAAJFE/FRL1YigJUXM/s250/1zguc5v.GIF)
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Anyone here play Duel Links?
I just sunk some money into it today. :goty
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“Black Trans White’s Bitch“
What does this even mean? Did you get these words from a rotary flip book? Comes out like something a drunk would throw out. Just a bunch words as if they mean a damn thing.
Funny you mention politics. Your entire politics are based around identity. Because identity is all you’ve got, bb. You’re nothing but a Social Studies Warrior lgbt snowflake cheeseburger. Except at the very least snowflakes are all unique. You don’t even have that going for you because you’re so fucking boring that being nb, being trans, being lgbt it’s all you got. Do you relish in always being offended on behalf of that identity because you know that deep down, it’s the only thing that makes you special. You don’t have any special talents. You don’t have anything that separates you from the pack. I may be flawed, but I am an original. You’re a copy of a copy of a copy. An unoriginal fuckwit who can’t articulate a damn thing beyond what they feel they’re supposed to think.
You’re a fucking rainbow colored Xerox machine that likes pedo hentai.
I’m blessed that I’ve never been gay enough to ever play YuGiOh. :preach
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I’m blessed that I’ve never been gay enough to ever play YuGiOh. :blessed
Your gay ass is missing out. More fun than Magic. :aah
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Lol changed your mind? Biiiiiiiiitch
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:gladbron
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Not but for real is everyone comfortable that our new ban enforceable rule is segregation?
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great news TVC, the main card is still on!
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(https://media.giphy.com/media/qN7NZR3Q5R2mY/giphy.gif)
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(http://e.lvme.me/743pv7l.jpg)
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bork be like (http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/063/491/my_trap_card.jpg)
Call of the Haunted'd cream's ass up in here. :whew
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You’re a fucking rainbow colored Xerox machine that likes pedo hentai.
:dead
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I can't even read he trashbin thread anymore, it's nothing but DBZ garbage.
This Cream thread will do just fine, yes.
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What pronouns do you like, Cream? I don’t want to misgender you. Is it they/them or are you cool with he or she?
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he's cool with she
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Cream rn
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/UntriedAgileGavial-size_restricted.gif)
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he's cool with she
I thought Cream said they’re cool with whatever as long as you’re consistent or something?
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he's cool with she
I’ll give Cream this: at least they’re not one of those xir/zir feggits.
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he's cool with she
I thought Cream said they’re cool with whatever as long as you’re consistent or something?
fine, she's cool with he
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he's cool with she
I’ll give Cream this: at least they’re not one of those xir/zir feggits.
I have never encountered any of these outside of tumblry type places.
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Cream's troll game was so strong he had to start arguing with his alt-account.
:rejoice
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he's cool with she
I’ll give Cream this: at least they’re not one of those xir/zir feggits.
I have never encountered any of these outside of tumblry type places.
They’re on fb. Autism is their choice of weapon.
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I actually wish Cream stuck to one pronoun, because I shouldn't have to guess which gender she feels she is at any given time
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“Black Trans White’s Bitch“
What does this even mean? Did you get these words from a rotary flip book? Comes out like something a drunk would throw out. Just a bunch words as if they mean a damn thing.
Funny you mention politics. Your entire politics are based around identity. Because identity is all you’ve got, bb. You’re a throw all Social Studies Warrior lgbt snowflake cheeseburger. Except at the very least snowflakes are all unique. You don’t even have that going for you because you’re so fucking boring that being nb, being trans, being lgbt it’s all you got. Do you relish in always being offended on behalf of that identity because you know that deep down, it’s the only thing that makes you special. You don’t have any special talents. You don’t have anything that separates you from the pack. I may be flawed, but I am an original. You’re a copy of a copy of a copy. An unoriginal fuckwit who can’t articulate a damn thing beyond what they feel they’re supposed to think.
You’re a fucking rainbow colored Xerox machine that likes pedo hentai.
I’m blessed that I’ve never been gay enough to ever play YuGiOh. :preach
It was a play on a Yugioh card.
It’s honestly hilarious that you do what so many conservative and alt-right shitstains immediately jump to. “Oh, this person is really passionate about identity politics. I’ll just accuse them of having NOTHING ELSE in their life.”
Because that’s just it isn’t it? You can’t possibly comprehend the concept of somebody caring about them self and working hard to make their own life better while also caring about other people and marginalized groups at the same time. It’s because you’re weak. Weak people turn their backs on the people who care about them. Weak people search for easy answers to tough questions. Weak people think guns are their lifeblood.
I mean I could waste my time proving to you just how wrong you are by showing you all the short films that I’ve made, the feature and pilot scripts I’ve written. The websites that hired me to film and edit their videos. I could expose my identity and link you to pics and vids of me with my friends living life and having fun, but I’m legitimately afraid of pushing you too far over the edge. Actually that’s obviously a lie just to throw shade at you. I know you’re too much of an arrogant bitch to ever kill yourself.
The truth is that you, like quite a few others on this site, HAVE to assume that I’m empty and lacking in a life. That I’m not productive or socialable or active or fulfilled in anyway. Because something happened to you where you took the easy way out, the weak way, and decided, arrogantly and foolishly, that it had to be “others” or “yourself”, and that it couldn’t be both. You have to assume this, because if MY way was the right way, that would mean YOUR way is the wrong way, and that you’re a -gasp- bad person. Or even worse! A sucker.
Before you submitted that post you had absolutely no idea that calling me a copy or saying I have nothing in my life but identity politics is the most toothless, ignorant bullshit I’ve heard from you yet. For a girl trying to call out cliches, you give them out like Walmart does those murder penises you love stroking so much.
Obviously at this point we both know nothing we say is actually an attempt to change anyone’s mind and we’re just doing this to blow off steam. I’m perfectly willing to admit that I have been waiting for this for quite a while.
But the one thing that I want to say above all else is the one thing that you and so many others on this site and so many of those conservative and alt-right fucks just can’t possibly understand, is that caring about others and actually fighting for them, even and especially when it’s hard, doesn’t make me empty or lazy or conceited or shallow like you wish I was. It makes the world a better place, bitch.
I won’t pretend I or any liberal knows every right thing to do. I won’t pretend we don’t go too far sometimes, or miss context. I won’t pretend that intersectionality comes with complex issues. But no one ever said progressivism, real progressivism, was gonna be easy. At least we try. You literally brag about being selfish. You literally get joy from it. On a universal scale. I asked you before why you didn’t ever feel hurt or sad at the fact that an incredibly large majority of black and trans people are completely against what you claim to believe in and would see you as an enemy. And all you did was shit on me for caring about “identity politics” like the stupid little Social Studies Warrior I am. Can you not see how far you’ve lost the plot?
If people want to know the real reason I keep coming back here. It’s not because I think I’ll change anyone’s mind about any of these political issues. It’s not because I care so much about Era, that I feel the need to defend it on everything. The reason I keep coming back here is because people insist on calling me a troll and they insist on calling me Cindi. I promise you. That if I am you, if I ever become LIKE you, then WE, can just take one of those precious guns you love so much, stick it in our mouths, and pull the trigger.
Assimiliate thinks you’re smart and know a lot about politics for gods sakes! Get a clue!
He or She please. It’s in my tag.
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I’m not a lot like a lot of conservatives. I remind you who you’re talking to. I care a lot of about identity. You don’t know me at all if you think I don’t care. I call you a copy cat because it’s all I’ve seen from you. It’s stuff I’ve heard a billion times. I have never seen one original thought from you. You assume I don’t care about identity just because I’ve cone to different conclusions than you when I’ve literally based all or most of my arguments recently around identity, particularly my blackness. So that’s my problem. You see someone who probably cares about identity as much as you do - maybe even more - and think I don’t care when I care A LOT. But you don’t treat me as a human being. You just have resentment to sell. You’ve got insults to trade. You won’t ask why and the reason you won’t is because you might not like what you hear. So you do what everyone else does and calls me a coon even though I have literally framed my argument based around my blackness. That is why you are a copy.
You view anyone who leaves the camp as a traitor. That’s why you’re a copy. Because you and all those like you say they’re about diversity in everything but thought. Because you’re scared to admit that maybe, maybe I might be right.
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(https://media.giphy.com/media/3o752gW5doX8q18Nlm/giphy.gif)
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I’m not a lot like a lot of conservatives. I remind you who you’re talking to. I care a lot of about identity. You don’t know me at all if you think I don’t care. I call you a copy cat because it’s all I’ve seen from you. It’s stuff I’ve heard a billion times. I have never seen one original thought from you. You assume I don’t care about identity just because I’ve cone to different conclusions than you when I’ve literally based all or most of my arguments recently around identity, particularly my blackness. So that’s my problem. You see someone who probably cares about identity as much as you do - maybe even more - and think I don’t care when I care A LOT. But you don’t treat me as a human being. You just have resentment to sell. You’ve got insults to trade. You won’t ask why and the reason you won’t is because you might not like what you hear. So you do what everyone else does and calls me a coon even though I have literally framed my argument based around my blackness. That is why you are a copy.
You view anyone who leaves the camp as a traitor. That’s why you’re a copy. Because you and all those like you say they’re about diversity in everything but thought. Because you’re scared to admit that maybe, maybe I might be right.
Oh no trust me I got it. The democrats have totally suckered all blacks and YOU are one of the few smart enough to see through the bullshit. You have discovered the TRUE proper path. You know, in less than a year from previously being on this side. VOTE REPUBLICAN. Protect our guns! Because that’s truly what black people need to have better lives. Guns. And liberals, who according to you, just see us as votes and don’t actually do anything for us, literally a false statement, are WORSE than the group constantly and consistently doing things that make our lives worse for no other benefit than specifically that.
OK so I stand corrected and you actually do legitimately believe what you’re doing is good for black people. That would be all well and good if it wasn’t STUPID AS FUCK, demonstrably, on every single level.
There is truly no perspective no argument that you could ever make to justify this flip-flop of yours besides “because I can.” Diversity of thought. Yes. You are well within your right to be a flaming moron. But the problem is that the choices you make and the people you defend are LITERALLY WORKING TO MAKE MINE AND MILLIONS OF OTHERS LIVES WORSE ON A DAILY BASIS.
I don’t think you’re a traitor. I think you’re a weapon.
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(https://wcwworldwide.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/hoganheelturngif.gif)
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Me watching all this shyt
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/f69972d00e13ee77f47bd011ad392de2/tenor.gif?itemid=10409478)
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(http://static2.fjcdn.com/comments/Lol+no+im+not+reading+something+that+has+the+word+_9923201506b7c3f887f309c972152513.png)
Then why are you in this thread? :goty2
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Shorter comments = higher return on investment in the drama. :snob
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Honestly, can this drama wait an hour...
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yaaaaaaaaaaaassssssssssssssssssssss! annihilate that skank, cream!!!! yaaaaaaaaaasssssssssssssssssssssssss!!
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I’m not a lot like a lot of conservatives. I remind you who you’re talking to. I care a lot of about identity. You don’t know me at all if you think I don’t care. I call you a copy cat because it’s all I’ve seen from you. It’s stuff I’ve heard a billion times. I have never seen one original thought from you. You assume I don’t care about identity just because I’ve cone to different conclusions than you when I’ve literally based all or most of my arguments recently around identity, particularly my blackness. So that’s my problem. You see someone who probably cares about identity as much as you do - maybe even more - and think I don’t care when I care A LOT. But you don’t treat me as a human being. You just have resentment to sell. You’ve got insults to trade. You won’t ask why and the reason you won’t is because you might not like what you hear. So you do what everyone else does and calls me a coon even though I have literally framed my argument based around my blackness. That is why you are a copy.
You view anyone who leaves the camp as a traitor. That’s why you’re a copy. Because you and all those like you say they’re about diversity in everything but thought. Because you’re scared to admit that maybe, maybe I might be right.
Oh no trust me I got it. The democrats have totally suckered all blacks and YOU are one of the few smart enough to see through the bullshit. You have discovered the TRUE proper path. You know, in less than a year from previously being on this side. VOTE REPUBLICAN. Protect our guns! Because that’s truly what black people need to have better lives. Guns. And liberals, who according to you, just see us as votes and don’t actually do anything for us, literally a false statement, are WORSE than the group constantly and consistently doing things that make our lives worse for no other benefit than specifically that.
OK so I stand corrected and you actually do legitimately believe what you’re doing is good for black people. That would be all well and good if it wasn’t STUPID AS FUCK, demonstrably, on every single level.
There is truly no perspective no argument that you could ever make to justify this flip-flop of yours besides “because I can.” Diversity of thought. Yes. You are well within your right to be a flaming moron. But the problem is that the choices you make and the people you defend are LITERALLY WORKING TO MAKE MINE AND MILLIONS OF OTHERS LIVES WORSE ON A DAILY BASIS.
I don’t think you’re a traitor. I think you’re a weapon.
I actually hardly think I’m the only one alone in this. Black voting rate is down even in an era of Trump. I know for a fact I’m not the only negro tired of the Democrats.
It is an opportunity to turn more blacks independent, though.
Okay, you said I know nothing about politics?
What makes more political sense?
Voting for the same people without them earning your vote for decades to the point where they take it for granted. Where they no longer cater to you or your interests (when did Hillarhbever appeal to black interests during her campaign? Instead she talks about hot sauce being in her bag to pander) because they know you’ll vote for them.
Or...
Having everyone switch to independent or the opposite party en masse forcing both parties to fight for your interests? Republicans don’t try to woo black people because they know we will vote D. The two party system is supposed to cater to your interests and compete for votes. Can you honestly say there’s competition for the black vote? Do you honestly see the Democratic Party fighting for the black vote?
Politically, as a vote bloc, black people have the most power being non-partisan. That way both parties have to fight for our vote. That’s how politics SHOULD work.
I’m not advocating for every black person to vote R. I do think we should leave the democrats en masse though. Let’s play a game and see what happens. Will we finally catch their eye? Will they finally fight for black causes?
I’m sorry, but you are ignorant on this issue.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/may/31/democrats-black-voters-granted-abandoned-them
And there’s more from there.
Black politics is more than voting D. It’s also more than voting R. It’s about protecting your interests.
Weapon? Nah. I am empowerment.
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https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/black-voters-are-so-loyal-that-their-issues-get-ignored/
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/365003-dems-black-voters-deserve-more-from-party
https://www.thenation.com/article/democrats-must-stop-taking-the-black-working-class-for-granted/
People universally think the Democrats are not black peoples friends because we vote for them even if it’s not deserved. :thinking Seems the only one to not get the memo is Cream and other Social Studies Warrior’s it seems.
I won’t vote D again until they earn my vote. Until then, I’ll work my ass off in my own to caucus for my interests in the Republican Party.
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Damn I finally get the hype for Black Panther now
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at least black panther had a shorter runtime
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https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/black-voters-are-so-loyal-that-their-issues-get-ignored/
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/365003-dems-black-voters-deserve-more-from-party
https://www.thenation.com/article/democrats-must-stop-taking-the-black-working-class-for-granted/
People universally think the Democrats are not black peoples friends because we vote for them even if it’s not deserved. :thinking Seems the only one to not get the memo is Cream and other Social Studies Warrior’s it seems.
I won’t vote D again until they earn my vote. Until then, I’ll work my ass off in my own to caucus for my interests in the Republican Party.
The core of the Republican party's support comes from being the party of white supremacy. Vote R all you want, they're not going to throw away their base for some marginal votes from a demographic that's a sliver of the overall voting public.
Think about what happened with immigration reform after Obama's second win. Republicans in Congress got scared by demographic trends and tried to make a deal to get inroads with Latinos, but their base hated it and the congressional leaders abandoned immigration reform. The party has only moved further into white identity politics since then. Maybe voting independent or supporting insurgent candidates in Dem primaries would get results, but the Republican party is never going to put your interests over that of racist whites, its meal ticket.
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:snoop
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https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/black-voters-are-so-loyal-that-their-issues-get-ignored/
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/365003-dems-black-voters-deserve-more-from-party
https://www.thenation.com/article/democrats-must-stop-taking-the-black-working-class-for-granted/
People universally think the Democrats are not black peoples friends because we vote for them even if it’s not deserved. :thinking Seems the only one to not get the memo is Cream and other Social Studies Warrior’s it seems.
I won’t vote D again until they earn my vote. Until then, I’ll work my ass off in my own to caucus for my interests in the Republican Party.
:neogaf
Bold move, let me know how that works out for you.
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https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/black-voters-are-so-loyal-that-their-issues-get-ignored/
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/365003-dems-black-voters-deserve-more-from-party
https://www.thenation.com/article/democrats-must-stop-taking-the-black-working-class-for-granted/
People universally think the Democrats are not black peoples friends because we vote for them even if it’s not deserved. :thinking Seems the only one to not get the memo is Cream and other Social Studies Warrior’s it seems.
I won’t vote D again until they earn my vote. Until then, I’ll work my ass off in my own to caucus for my interests in the Republican Party.
:neogaf
Bold move, let me know how that works out for you.
Really all that can be said at this point
I don’t wanna waste anymore time on this tomfoolery
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https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/black-voters-are-so-loyal-that-their-issues-get-ignored/
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/365003-dems-black-voters-deserve-more-from-party
https://www.thenation.com/article/democrats-must-stop-taking-the-black-working-class-for-granted/
People universally think the Democrats are not black peoples friends because we vote for them even if it’s not deserved. :thinking Seems the only one to not get the memo is Cream and other Social Studies Warrior’s it seems.
I won’t vote D again until they earn my vote. Until then, I’ll work my ass off in my own to caucus for my interests in the Republican Party.
The core of the Republican party's support comes from being the party of white supremacy. Vote R all you want, they're not going to throw away their base for some marginal votes from a demographic that's a sliver of the overall voting public.
Think about what happened with immigration reform after Obama's second win. Republicans in Congress got scared by demographic trends and tried to make a deal to get inroads with Latinos, but their base hated it and the congressional leaders abandoned immigration reform. The party has only moved further into white identity politics since then. Maybe voting independent or supporting insurgent candidates in Dem primaries would get results, but the Republican party is never going to put your interests over that of racist whites, its meal ticket.
In the state of Texas I cannot register independent. Unfortunately I also refuse to not vote. People were beaten or lynched to be able to vote. I refuse to disrespect that sacrifice. If I could go independent I would.
I haven’t seen white supremacy from the Republican Party. I’ve seen far more transphobia, honestly. Which isn’t cool. But these days I’m far less likely to take offense to it and would rather talk it out and explain trans people in a non-combative manner, especially face to face. I’ve seen some success there. Definitely has problematic people that support the party but let’s not pretend that’s a sole Republican problem. Saying the Republican Party at large is white supremacist is hyperbole. Just like it’s not fair to say Democrats is a party for people who hate white people and Jews. Which could be made given the lack of denouncing of Farrakhan. But does every Dem think that shit? Nah. Either mindset is playing into the hands of partisanship and helps to change jack shit.
Republican Party wants strong borders. That’s protecting black interests right there. Again - policy, not identify.
There’s also no real choice. As a black person, you’ve got three choices: 1. Don’t vote, which spits on your ancestors’ sacrifices, 2. Vote Dem every time, which is the same thing we’ve been doing and has done jack shit, or 3. Register Republican or Independent. That’s it. :idont
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https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/black-voters-are-so-loyal-that-their-issues-get-ignored/
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/365003-dems-black-voters-deserve-more-from-party
https://www.thenation.com/article/democrats-must-stop-taking-the-black-working-class-for-granted/
People universally think the Democrats are not black peoples friends because we vote for them even if it’s not deserved. :thinking Seems the only one to not get the memo is Cream and other Social Studies Warrior’s it seems.
I won’t vote D again until they earn my vote. Until then, I’ll work my ass off in my own to caucus for my interests in the Republican Party.
:neogaf
Bold move, let me know how that works out for you.
Thanks! I’ve got a black republican mentor and he’s teaching me the ropes of creating a local caucus to have candidates protect my interests beyond town hall meetings. Also talking of inviting representatives to my place for dinner and talk, be a part of the process. You might think it’s fruitless but it does more than bitch on the internet and vote D all the time like a dumb robot.
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https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/black-voters-are-so-loyal-that-their-issues-get-ignored/
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/365003-dems-black-voters-deserve-more-from-party
https://www.thenation.com/article/democrats-must-stop-taking-the-black-working-class-for-granted/
People universally think the Democrats are not black peoples friends because we vote for them even if it’s not deserved. :thinking Seems the only one to not get the memo is Cream and other Social Studies Warrior’s it seems.
I won’t vote D again until they earn my vote. Until then, I’ll work my ass off in my own to caucus for my interests in the Republican Party.
The core of the Republican party's support comes from being the party of white supremacy. Vote R all you want, they're not going to throw away their base for some marginal votes from a demographic that's a sliver of the overall voting public.
Think about what happened with immigration reform after Obama's second win. Republicans in Congress got scared by demographic trends and tried to make a deal to get inroads with Latinos, but their base hated it and the congressional leaders abandoned immigration reform. The party has only moved further into white identity politics since then. Maybe voting independent or supporting insurgent candidates in Dem primaries would get results, but the Republican party is never going to put your interests over that of racist whites, its meal ticket.
In the state of Texas I cannot register independent. Unfortunately I also refuse to not vote. People were beaten or lynched to be able to vote. I refuse to disrespect that sacrifice. If I could go independent I would.
I haven’t seen white supremacy from the Republican Party. I’ve seen far more transphobia, honestly. Which isn’t cool. But these days I’m far less likely to take offense to it and would rather talk it out and explain trans people in a non-combative manner, especially face to face. I’ve seen some success there. Definitely has problematic people that support the party but let’s not pretend that’s a sole Republican problem. Saying the Republican Party at large is white supremacist is hyperbole. Just like it’s not fair to say Democrats is a party for people who hate white people and Jews. Which could be made given the lack of denouncing of Farrakhan. But does every Dem think that shit? Nah. Either mindset is playing into the hands of partisanship and helps to change jack shit.
Republican Party wants strong borders. That’s protecting black interests right there. Again - policy, not identify.
There’s also no real choice. As a black person, you’ve got three choices: 1. Don’t vote, which spits on your ancestors’ sacrifices, 2. Vote Dem every time, which is the same thing we’ve been doing and has done jack shit, or 3. Register Republican or Independent. That’s it. :idont
Bitch The reason jack shit has happened for black people in the last 60 years is because of REPUBLICANS
You are blind, deaf, and dumb.
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https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/black-voters-are-so-loyal-that-their-issues-get-ignored/
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/365003-dems-black-voters-deserve-more-from-party
https://www.thenation.com/article/democrats-must-stop-taking-the-black-working-class-for-granted/
People universally think the Democrats are not black peoples friends because we vote for them even if it’s not deserved. :thinking Seems the only one to not get the memo is Cream and other Social Studies Warrior’s it seems.
I won’t vote D again until they earn my vote. Until then, I’ll work my ass off in my own to caucus for my interests in the Republican Party.
The core of the Republican party's support comes from being the party of white supremacy. Vote R all you want, they're not going to throw away their base for some marginal votes from a demographic that's a sliver of the overall voting public.
Think about what happened with immigration reform after Obama's second win. Republicans in Congress got scared by demographic trends and tried to make a deal to get inroads with Latinos, but their base hated it and the congressional leaders abandoned immigration reform. The party has only moved further into white identity politics since then. Maybe voting independent or supporting insurgent candidates in Dem primaries would get results, but the Republican party is never going to put your interests over that of racist whites, its meal ticket.
In the state of Texas I cannot register independent. Unfortunately I also refuse to not vote. People were beaten or lynched to be able to vote. I refuse to disrespect that sacrifice. If I could go independent I would.
I haven’t seen white supremacy from the Republican Party. I’ve seen far more transphobia, honestly. Which isn’t cool. But these days I’m far less likely to take offense to it and would rather talk it out and explain trans people in a non-combative manner, especially face to face. I’ve seen some success there. Definitely has problematic people that support the party but let’s not pretend that’s a sole Republican problem. Saying the Republican Party at large is white supremacist is hyperbole. Just like it’s not fair to say Democrats is a party for people who hate white people and Jews. Which could be made given the lack of denouncing of Farrakhan. But does every Dem think that shit? Nah. Either mindset is playing into the hands of partisanship and helps to change jack shit.
Republican Party wants strong borders. That’s protecting black interests right there. Again - policy, not identify.
There’s also no real choice. As a black person, you’ve got three choices: 1. Don’t vote, which spits on your ancestors’ sacrifices, 2. Vote Dem every time, which is the same thing we’ve been doing and has done jack shit, or 3. Register Republican or Independent. That’s it. :idont
Bitch The reason jack shit has happened for black people in the last 60 years is because of REPUBLICANS
You are blind, deaf, and dumb.
:sabu
Yeah, it’s alllllll the Republicans’ fault. Blue states like California have done really well with black people. Most cities being blue, have also done really well. Lots of wonderful improvements. I see you Detroit :bow
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That's it bitch. Let's finally do this.
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Yeah, it’s alllllll the Republicans’ fault. Blue states like California have done really well with black people. Most cities being blue, have also done really well. Lots of wonderful improvements. I see you Detroit :bow
I didn’t say Democrats were doing a great job for black people. But they are absolutely doing better then literally doing everything in their power to keep them as oppressed as possible.
Cindy you do realize that all that stuff you’re talking about caucuses and fighting for your voice and to get your interests heard is with many black people do on the Democratic side and this may come as a shock but there are a lot more white Democrats that actually do care about black people than Republicans. This is a literal fucking fact I would bet my life on.
And their efforts would possibly be more fruitful and it would be easier to fight to be heard and considered if we didn’t have to worry about the evil fucks with an R next to their name that literally work to keep black people as effectively slaves.
You literally just said that Republicans are not about white supremacy.
Absolutely every choice Republicans make is based on one of two things. Greed, or Racism. Every single choice.
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You really think siding with the Republicans will keep you free of identity politics?
Maaan.
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It was black Democrat leaders that spearheaded the drug war and pitched it to Nixon, and were perfectly satisfied continuing to support it despite it destroying black Americans.
https://www.wnyc.org/story/313060-profile-charles-rangel-and-drug-wars/
It was black democratic leaders backed by a democratic majority government that signed the criminal act that put millions of black men in prison.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/analysis-black-leaders-supported-clinton-s-crime-bill-n552961
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/08/22/us/politics/joe-bidens-role-in-90s-crime-law-could-haunt-any-presidential-bid.html?referer=https://www.google.com/
Black democrats routinely support policy that hurts us in the long run in the guise of good intentions. Democrats historically back it. Democrats have done plenty to help contribute to the continual status of a black America. This is genuinely a bipartisan effort. Any other answer, whether solely blaming democrats OR republicans is ducktales and pinpoints to political immaturity.
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Did California turn into a Mad Max apocalyptic hellscape while I wasn't paying attention? Cause I seem to remember it was the fifth-largest economy on Earth and seemed to be doing pretty well for itself. :whatsthedeal
And TIL Detroit sucks not because the local auto industry collapsed but because of black-hating Demoncrats :whatsthedeal
At least we still have MA, not exactly a liberal paradise but our strict gun control laws have led us to have the second-lowest gun death rate of the entire nation. :obama
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It was black Democrat leaders that spearheaded the drug war and pitched it to Nixon, and were perfectly satisfied continuing to support it despite it destroying black Americans.
https://www.wnyc.org/story/313060-profile-charles-rangel-and-drug-wars/
It was black democratic leaders backed by a democratic majority government that signed the criminal act that put millions of black men in prison.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/analysis-black-leaders-supported-clinton-s-crime-bill-n552961
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/08/22/us/politics/joe-bidens-role-in-90s-crime-law-could-haunt-any-presidential-bid.html?referer=https://www.google.com/
Black democrats routinely support policy that hurts us in the long run in the guise of good intentions. Democrats historically back it. Democrats have done plenty to help contribute to the continual status of a black America. This is genuinely a bipartisan effort. Any other answer, whether solely blaming democrats OR republicans is ducktales and pinpoints to political immaturity.
So as somebody who can recognize that both parties have faults how are you unable to recognize that one party is significantly worse for black Americans than the other?
Do you know why the KKK consistently support and vote for Republicans? Because they aren’t stupid like you and know which party cares more about their interests.
Black people have always consistently been voting for the party that is screwing them over less at the time. I will not deny that. After slavery it was Republicans because Republicans were the ones that freed the slaves. After Kennedy and LBJ it was Dems because the Civil Rights Act.
It’s still Dems, Cindi. And as long as republicans continue to be republicans, and racist and the idiots like you who side with them continue to support them, we will get nowhere.
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Did California turn into a Mad Max apocalyptic hellscape while I wasn't paying attention? Cause I seem to remember it was the fifth-largest economy on Earth and seemed to be doing pretty well for itself. :whatsthedeal
And TIL Detroit sucks not because the local auto industry collapsed but because of black-hating Demoncrats :whatsthedeal
At least we still have MA, not exactly a liberal paradise but our strict gun control laws have led us to have the second-lowest gun death rate of the entire nation. :obama
The point is that to say that only republicans have hurt black America is not factual by any stretch. Most American cities are Democratic and people still struggle no matter which one. In states like California, black people have suffered heavily and Cali is a blue state. To say that blacks struggle purely because of republicans is distinguished mentally-challenged. Especially since black peopleare doing pretty good in the south which are typically red states. Oops.
That’s all. You can put your non-sequiturs and comparisons to Mad Max to rest and inform yourself.
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-0501-renn-reverse-great-migration-20160501-story.html
Also people are leaving California in droves. Funny how they advertise California as the most liberal state and the best representation of liberal policies. And we are seeing how that’s working out. Heh.
https://www.curbed.com/2018/2/27/17058006/california-housing-crisis-rent-migration-texas
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/03/20/business/economy/reno-growth.html?referer=https://www.google.com/
Unfortunately this has moron Californians coming to states like Texas, voting the same way they voted in California for the same policies that got them to leave to begin with. A plague on the entire nation.
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California
https://youtu.be/hb-RPGhpBSI
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Yeah because you know what states I think of when the word prosperity, especially for blacks, comes to mind?
Red states!
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CREAM, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW- NO ONE IS HERE READING YOU ARGUE WITH YOURSELF :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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I've lived in Georgia and Alabama, blacks are not doing better over than than in California :lol :lol :lol
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I've lived in Georgia and Alabama, blacks are not doing better over than than in California :lol :lol :lol
No one is, not just blacks.
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I've lived in Georgia and Alabama, blacks are not doing better over than than in California :lol :lol :lol
when your fuckery goes so far that even filler says hold up
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I've lived in Georgia and Alabama, blacks are not doing better over than than in California :lol :lol :lol
https://www.theroot.com/forbes-10-cities-where-african-americans-are-doing-the-1822124807
You guys really are uninformed. :lol
Keep fucking that chicken.
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Mods, please rename this thread to "Transgender battle royale"
TIA.
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I've lived in Georgia and Alabama, blacks are not doing better over than than in California :lol :lol :lol
No one is, not just blacks.
This is correct. Being poor in the south compared to being poor in the west are two different things. There's a real sense of hopelessness out there.
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Hoping this is the last time I dance The Tango Cindi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0QfCIQgD94
The point is that to say that only republicans have hurt black America is not factual by any stretch.
Was that the point? Shitting on CA and Detroit seems like a pretty weird way to try and prove that. :dunno
Most American cities are Democratic and people still struggle no matter which one.
Yes, true. Heaven isn't a place on earth.
In states like California, black people have suffered heavily and Cali is a blue state.
This is your smoking gun? :lol
To say that blacks struggle purely because of republicans is distinguished mentally-challenged.
Did anyone here say that? All I see is people putting most of the blame on Republicans' hands, not "purely" all of it - an important distinction.
For the record, this is how you always argue a point: blow it out of proportion and hope no one picks up on it, allowing you to string together an extremely specific set of "Gotchas!" Sorry, didn't work this time babe. 💅🏻
Especially since black peopleare doing pretty good in the south which are typically red states. Oops.
[PD peer-reviewed citation extremely needed]
Also people are leaving California in droves.
And...? Why does this matter at all? Do you really want me to start looking at which red states are shrinking? Should I go "Checkmate conservatives"?
Funny how they advertise California as the most liberal state and the best representation of liberal policies. And we are seeing how that’s working out.
How in the world do you previous post to this one?? :lol "People are leaving the state, the liberal dream fails yet again!"
https://www.curbed.com/2018/2/27/17058006/california-housing-crisis-rent-migration-texas
:confused People like to live where it's affordable for them to do so, I'm shocked.
I guess Boston's another failed liberal experiment with so many people opting for Cambridge and Quincy instead.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/03/20/business/economy/reno-growth.html?referer=https://www.google.com/
Unfortunately this has moron Californians coming to states like Texas, voting the same way they voted in California for the same policies that got them to leave to begin with. A plague on the entire nation.
I can't wait until Texas is fully, solidly purple. :lawd
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Also complaining that Texas is getting too many liberals is a tad tasteless the day the Austin bomber (an admitted conservative who also hated abortion...) blew himself up, sis. :doge
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Did California turn into a Mad Max apocalyptic hellscape while I wasn't paying attention? Cause I seem to remember it was the fifth-largest economy on Earth and seemed to be doing pretty well for itself. :whatsthedeal
And TIL Detroit sucks not because the local auto industry collapsed but because of black-hating Demoncrats :whatsthedeal
At least we still have MA, not exactly a liberal paradise but our strict gun control laws have led us to have the second-lowest gun death rate of the entire nation. :obama
The point is that to say that only republicans have hurt black America is not factual by any stretch. Most American cities are Democratic and people still struggle no matter which one. In states like California, black people have suffered heavily and Cali is a blue state. To say that blacks struggle purely because of republicans is distinguished mentally-challenged. Especially since black peopleare doing pretty good in the south which are typically red states. Oops.
That’s all. You can put your non-sequiturs and comparisons to Mad Max to rest and inform yourself.
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-0501-renn-reverse-great-migration-20160501-story.html
Also people are leaving California in droves. Funny how they advertise California as the most liberal state and the best representation of liberal policies. And we are seeing how that’s working out. Heh.
https://www.curbed.com/2018/2/27/17058006/california-housing-crisis-rent-migration-texas
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/03/20/business/economy/reno-growth.html?referer=https://www.google.com/
Unfortunately this has moron Californians coming to states like Texas, voting the same way they voted in California for the same policies that got them to leave to begin with. A plague on the entire nation.
Some things you might want to be aware of so as to not look silly in the future. Minority parties in California have outsized power, anything even tangentially involving the budget requires 2/3rds majority to pass. While California is a blue staple in national politics, it is still a state where the minority party and centrists have had a level of outsized influence on governance. Think Joe Lieberman during the ACA process.
But again, would you care to make the case for me as to how Republican ideals that we have seen borne out on the state level in places like Kansas, Oklahoma, or Louisiana are a superior economic model for black people. Economic models which advocate stagnating or eliminating the minimum wage, eliminating most social program spending, gutting education, allowing re-segregation of communities, drastically slashing healthcare spending, eliminating labor protections including affirmative action and discrimination laws, and putting as much power into the hands of the ownership of capital that can be politically mustered, whom prop up the Republican party and who they have proven to be almost entirely responsive to.
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I've lived in Georgia and Alabama, blacks are not doing better over than than in California :lol :lol :lol
No one is, not just blacks.
This is correct. Being poor in the south compared to being poor in the west are two different things. There's a real sense of hopelessness out there.
My current city literally has spent the last five years trying to re-segregate, and the only reason they have managed to nearly succeed twice is because of Republicans(they are ramping up for their third try).
Watch it here:
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/separate-and-unequal/
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I’m so proud of myself right now.
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Fisking. :kobeyuck
To defend blue states.
Ahhhh Texas. :aah I don't want to leave you for Commiefornia. :tocry
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Commiefornia’s pretty awesome tho. I know someone that saw two homeless people banging in front of a public library at like 9am.
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Commiefornia’s pretty awesome tho. I know someone that saw two homeless people banging in front of a public library at like 9am.
Did they poop in the street before or after the deed?
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I’m so proud of myself right now.
We all are, son.
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I've lived in Georgia and Alabama, blacks are not doing better over than than in California :lol :lol :lol
https://www.theroot.com/forbes-10-cities-where-african-americans-are-doing-the-1822124807
You guys really are uninformed. :lol
Keep fucking that chicken.
Atlanta and DC being tops isn't surprising. Is this supposed to somehow change the opinion of Black Cities?
Commiefornia’s pretty awesome tho. I know someone that saw two homeless people banging in front of a public library at like 9am.
Pfft. Get back to me when they do it IN the library.
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How often do you have to avoid AIDS infected needles and use a map service to avoid poop filled streets, TVC?
:american Liberalism :american
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legal weed :aah
good weather :aah
good looking people :aah
California :aah
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texmex is absolute garbage food
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good looking people :aah
https://www.chron.com/entertainment/rodeo/article/Houston-Livestock-Show-and-Rodeo-Bar-B-Que-12705735.php#photo-15131006
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Clearly never been to the Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo.
Texas :tocry
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texmex is absolute garbage food
I agree
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How often do you have to avoid AIDS infected needles and use a map service to avoid poop filled streets, TVC?
:american Liberalism :american
This is somehow exclusive to California and Liberal Cities?
As for Needles: That's not exclusive to Liberal Cities, either (http://time.com/james-nachtwey-opioid-addiction-america/). Yes, "AIDS" may not be in all of them, but it's still a HUGE crisis with the Opioid epidemic of having to collect these things and/or avoiding them due to health risks.
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How often do you have to avoid AIDS infected needles and use a map service to avoid poop filled streets, TVC?
:american Liberalism :american
This is somehow exclusive to California and Liberal Cities?
As for Needles: That's not exclusive to Liberal Cities, either (http://time.com/james-nachtwey-opioid-addiction-america/). Yes, "AIDS" may not be in all of them, but it's still a HUGE crisis with the Opoid epidemic of having to collect these things and/or avoiding them due to health risks.
https://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco/comments/574yna/san_francisco_and_poop/
:american
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https://www.chron.com/entertainment/rodeo/article/Houston-Livestock-Show-and-Rodeo-Bar-B-Que-12705735.php#photo-15131006
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Clearly never been to the Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo.
Texas :tocry
is this a gallery of all the non-morbidly obese texans
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good looking people :aah
https://www.chron.com/entertainment/rodeo/article/Houston-Livestock-Show-and-Rodeo-Bar-B-Que-12705735.php#photo-15131006
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FaroffOddIcterinewarbler-size_restricted.gif)
Clearly never been to the Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo.
Texas :tocry
This doesn’t compete with the Folsom Street Fair at all.
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How often do you have to avoid AIDS infected needles and use a map service to avoid poop filled streets, TVC?
:american Liberalism :american
This is somehow exclusive to California and Liberal Cities?
As for Needles: That's not exclusive to Liberal Cities, either (http://time.com/james-nachtwey-opioid-addiction-america/). Yes, "AIDS" may not be in all of them, but it's still a HUGE crisis with the Opoid epidemic of having to collect these things and/or avoiding them due to health risks.
https://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco/comments/574yna/san_francisco_and_poop/
:american
What is your point? San Fran has a shitting problem? CONGRATS, they have a huge homeless problem. As does any city! New York City in the summer will smell bad as well. What the fuck is your point here?
I've lived in Georgia and Alabama, blacks are not doing better over than than in California :lol :lol :lol
Also this. Cities like Atlanta, Houston, and Miami may be better for blacks, but actually outside of those towns? (Speaking as a resident in said non-cities?) lol, no. I went to a school that was still racially segregated in all but the word. Blacks sitting with blacks, whites sitting with whites. You can not tell me things are better in the south than they are in the north, west. It's the same shit everywhere.
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Beyonce is from Houston. :ufup
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Like 35% of San Fran smells like piss.
and there's hardly any black people, because they've been priced out
its also heavily segregated
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Like 35% of San Fran smells like piss.
As does a majority of cities that don't deal with that shit. It's not exclusive to Liberal Enclaves, is my point.
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Beyonce is from Houston. :ufup
Is she that girl that lost some award to Taylor?
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and it's pricing people out because the neighborhood committees have blocked any new housing development for years keeping dirty middle classers out
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Like 35% of San Fran smells like piss.
As does a majority of cities that don't deal with that shit. It's not exclusive to Liberal Enclaves, is my point.
Interesting fact, some of this has to do with the time and period in which certain cities were developed.
One of the things Chicago benefitted from because of their fire was that it allowed them to develop the city in a more modern way, benefitting from some lessons of the original Chicago. They have a sub level of the city that allows them to deal with a lot of the dirty shit that has to be dealt with on the surface in places like New York or San Francisco. So while not perfect, nasty smells are much less prominent.
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The overall point is that it seems that by sheer numbers, black folks are doing best in red states. The problem is that that's like fighting for who is second place. :lol
But that's besides the point and takes away from Cream's main argument: that Republicans are the only problem that black Americans have had when trying to find success. Nope. Not true. If anything, both are obstacles. You did admit that across the whole country that blacks are struggling in general right? So if that's the case, how does that make Democrats necessarily better than Republicans for black interests? If black people are doing that poorly maybe it's time to admit that both parties aren't catering to black interests. At that point, you try to formulate a strategy. But nah.
Let's keep voting Democratic. The same thing we've been doing since the 60's.
:aah
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San Francisco has large parts of it built on landfill that pushed into the bay as the city's expansion demanded it. It went through a major fire as well and several earthquakes.
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Cindi, you keep misrepresenting my argument intentionally even though you keep getting corrected on it. Very weird.
Nowhere did I ever say Republicans were the only problem...
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The overall point is that it seems that by sheer numbers, black folks are doing best in red states. The problem is that that's like fighting for who is second place. :lol
But that's besides the point and takes away from Cream's main argument: that Republicans are the only problem that black Americans have had when trying to find success. Nope. Not true. If anything, both are obstacles. You did admit that across the whole country that blacks are struggling in general right? So if that's the case, how does that make Democrats necessarily better than Republicans for black interests? If black people are doing that poorly maybe it's time to admit that both parties aren't catering to black interests. At that point, you try to formulate a strategy. But nah.
Let's keep voting Democratic. The same thing we've been doing since the 60's.
:aah
Why do you personally believe an overwhelming majority of black people vote Democratic?
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Cindi, you keep misrepresenting my argument intentionally even though you keep getting corrected on it. Very weird.
Nowhere did I ever say Republicans were the only problem...
Get familiar with that feeling.
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Cindi, you keep misrepresenting my argument intentionally even though you keep getting corrected on it. Very weird.
Nowhere did I ever say Republicans were the only problem...
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Bitch The reason jack shit has happened for black people in the last 60 years is because of REPUBLICANS
You are blind, deaf, and dumb.
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The only thing attractive to me about Texas is its supply of drag queens.
Alyssa Edwards :uguu
Shangela :uguu
Laganja Estranja :uguu
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Cindi, you keep misrepresenting my argument intentionally even though you keep getting corrected on it. Very weird.
Nowhere did I ever say Republicans were the only problem...
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Bitch The reason jack shit has happened for black people in the last 60 years is because of REPUBLICANS
You are blind, deaf, and dumb.
Ah, I see. You misunderstood me. Okay, let me spell it out for you.
There are some democrats working to help black people. Also as it turns out a lot of democratic positions are indeed helpful to all kinds of Americans black people included.
That said there are also plenty of Democrats doing things that very well could hurt black people.
Now, literally ALL REPUBLICANS are doing things to ACTIVELY make things worse for blacks. And many other Americans. I notice you ignore Nola’s helpful list:
Economic models which advocate stagnating or eliminating the minimum wage, eliminating most social program spending, gutting education, allowing re-segregation of communities, drastically slashing healthcare spending, eliminating labor protections including affirmative action and discrimination laws, and putting as much power into the hands of the ownership of capital that can be politically mustered, whom prop up the Republican party and who they have proven to be almost entirely responsive to.
Any comments on this stuff?
I think you can understand that when these are the two groups that decide all politics in America that if one of those two groups no longer existed then black people would be progressing at least a little bit as opposed to not at all
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It's funny.
When you look at the data, despite the fact that we lived under second class citizenship, black people made lots of in-roads and growth during Jim Crow era. The statistics are simply staggering and awe inspiring. And yet when you compare where black people are at compared to 50 years ago we're actually at the same place. Building our own universities, making things like Black Wall Street a thing, the Harlem Renaissance. We did some good shit despite all the struggles.
If we've been voting Democratic overwhelmingly for 50 years, maybe liberal policies do not benefit us.
That's the conclusion I've made. It could certainly be wrong, but at this point, you'd be foolish to not try alternatives.
Liberalism has failed black people. Call me a fool, a coon, whatever all you want. I don't believe in leftist or liberal policies beyond a few things and don't think they've helped black people an iota.
:idont
Over the years, I've been obsessed about this. I've come to my conclusions and I'm going to act on them. :jawalrus
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bs-ed-bad-democrats-20150702-story.html
Baltimore, since 1947 has had a single Republican mayor and 10 Democratic mayors; For 64 of those 68 years, the city has been run by Democrats. Detroit has had eight Democratic Mayors and no Republicans since 1962 — 53 years. Chicago has had 10 Democrats and no Republicans in 84 years. Philadelphia has had nine Democrats and no Republicans in 63 years St. Louis, similarly has had nine Democratic mayors and no Republicans in 64 years; Boston has had 12 Democrats and no Republicans in 85 years; Los Angeles has had five Democrats and a single Republican in the 54 years. New York, has had 15 different mayors since 1917, nine of whom were Democrats.
Each of these cities is among the largest in America and arguably has some of the worst metrics. Three of the eight are leading cities for murders; four have the highest crime rates, four have managed to make the Forbes "Most Miserable Cities" list, and at least two are at economic risk. While millions of taxpayer dollars remind us that Baltimore has great crabs, Chicago has terrific pizza, and Philly offers great cheesesteaks, these cities, and scores of similarly imperiled cities across the country, have made virtually no progress in establishing their towns as safe, enlightened, attractive places to live. By any measure, Democratic leadership has failed these cities for most of the last century. I would suggest it might be time to give the Republicans a chance.
It is worth noting that each of these cities has large — and largely poor — black communities. Many African Americans, sold on the concept that the Democrats represent the little guy, have consistently helped get these Democrats elected. I would ask the black voters of these cities to seriously question whether they believe their lives have been materially improved since their grandparents lived there. Despite a half century of promises, it takes little reflection to agree that life in urban black communities has improved only marginally, if at all. While Democrats are fast to point out the problems are the result of "the drug war" or the "unbridled capitalism" of white-owned businesses who took jobs away, you will never hear them look inward and consider that perhaps their leadership and well-meaning but poorly advised liberal social agendas are to blame for much of the misery in poor urban communities. It is time such communities look to new ways of thinking about urban management. If something doesn't work after 50 years of trying the same things over and over, well, it might be time for a change.
Fuck em. :yeshrug
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So why do we still do it then Cindi in your opinion
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I really want to point and laugh at how utterly fucking ridiculous it is you have managed to bend yourself into thinking Jim Crow benefitted black people compared to not having it, but please I want to hear what it is you think is that specifically makes modern Republican ideals a superior path forward for minorities and why?
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I really want to point and laugh at how utterly fucking ridiculous it is you have managed to control yourself into thinking Jim Crow benefitted black people compared to not having it, but please I want to hear what it is you think is that specifically makes modern Republican ideals a superior path forward for minorities and why?
Right, I love how my question was “ what about all these modern republican policies and positions that are bad for black people?” And her answer was
“You know, Jim Crow wasn’t that bad!”
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I’m so proud of myself right now.
Just like a democrat to forget that I, a minority, helped the cause.
Since I'm an immigrant you should probably avoid saying so, so I get it.
I’ve mentioned before, but I’m an anticivilizationist that knows my ideal world is impossible. I vote democrat because their policies tend to benefit me most in this non-ideal world.
I do appreciate your work (and nudemacuser’s) in achieving my goal of freeing Cream, but it’s hard to care for your cause as an immigrant when you won’t even show me your dick or give me an undies pic.
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I’m so proud of myself right now.
Just like a democrat to forget that I, a minority, helped the cause.
Since I'm an immigrant you should probably avoid saying so, so I get it.
I’ve mentioned before, but I’m an anticivilizationist that knows my ideal world is impossible. I vote democrat because their policies tend to benefit me most in this non-ideal world.
I do appreciate your work (and nudemacuser’s) in achieving my goal of freeing Cream, but it’s hard to care for your cause as an immigrant when you won’t even show me your dick or give me an undies pic.
If you want something to fight for I will give you a real hot ass shot at level 50.
You’re currently at level 5
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I already told you. You'll have to work for it.
I’ll Venmo you 20 bucks for a shirtless undies bulge pic with your pubes poking out the top of your underwear.
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I'm going off the backpage model. 300 and I'l make sure you attain sufficient gape.
I’m being serious, though. I’m trying a different angle to get undies pics of warcock. For you I’m going with basic green. First one of you two to present a cumworthy bulge wins.
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That's my offer, take it or leave it.
Not worth it. I’m sure you’d stick me with travel expenses, too. You’re probably just junk dick that couldn’t please a real man anyway.
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300 for a backpage slut? :doge
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Who is/was Cream?
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That's my offer, take it or leave it.
Not worth it. I’m sure you’d stick me with travel expenses, too. You’re probably just junk dick that couldn’t please a real man anyway.
Good thing you're not a real man, then.
Besides, even Backpagers give a pic preview before you pay for them. You’re business model is as fucked as your pathetic little girl dick. I bet you have a laundry list of things you wouldn’t do.
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Now, literally ALL REPUBLICANS are doing things to ACTIVELY make things worse for blacks. And many other Americans.
This is ridiculous. Literally all Republicans? It's like you're categorizing Republicans as villains. It's cartoonish and hilarious. Especially considering people like Rand Paul.
I notice you ignore Nola’s helpful list:
Economic models which advocate stagnating or eliminating the minimum wage, eliminating most social program spending, gutting education, allowing re-segregation of communities, drastically slashing healthcare spending, eliminating labor protections including affirmative action and discrimination laws, and putting as much power into the hands of the ownership of capital that can be politically mustered, whom prop up the Republican party and who they have proven to be almost entirely responsive to.
I think neither party is correct on minimum wage. Democrats want to raise it to 15 but you know when I saw Black Panther? No one in the front desk. It was just a bunch of machines. Upping that to 15 would be catastrophic and have employees replaced almost immediately.
Depends on the social program. Social programs shouldn't be eliminated, but they should be re-tooled. Far too many are overly reliant on them with no progress and a welfare state leads to a lack of happiness and fulfillment. I'm against welfare states, but I also fine social programs useful. We should do more to help people transition from being on social programs. Things like social security are fine, and not every Republican supports gutting it.
Education should get more out of it, but I'm also fine with things like charter schools but both options are bad, and Democrats don't seem to be doing well on the education front either, given states like California. Education in general is a mixed bag. I'd personally take a bit of the military budget and put it in education.
Re-segregation might not be entirely a negative. I have posited before many times that black people tried to integrate far too quickly rather than push for equality. There's also the argument that integration hurt black Americans. Certainly, Asian Americans and Latino Americans are kind of segregated from the rest of the population and they're self reliant. Not a lot of black people these days see integration as an inherently good thing and I'm one of them. The case could be made that a lot of white liberals believe in the idea of integration. Read here: https://www.colorlines.com/articles/did-integration-hurt-black-neighborhoods
I'm definitely up on Republicans' asses on healthcare spending. But let's not forget: ACA was originally Romney's. Healthcare is a basic right and more Republican constituents realize this. This will force Republicans to shift on their stance by necessity.
RE: labor protections. Affirmative action should be changed from racial-based to economic-based. Affirmative action ignores ethnic groups along racial lines. Well off Nigerians vying for higher education are lumped in with black Americans. Affirmative Action needs to be retooled from the ground up. It's based on 1960's politics with 1960's demographics in mind. It hurts Asian Americans for instance. See: https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2014/11/20/365547463/new-affirmative-action-cases-say-policies-hurt-asian-americans However, taking away AA in California hurt black and latino students. So it's a tough subject.
Republicans definitely need to work on discrimination laws. It's my biggest problem with the party especially their treatment of anti-discrimination laws towards LGBT people.
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I really want to point and laugh at how utterly fucking ridiculous it is you have managed to bend yourself into thinking Jim Crow benefitted black people compared to not having it, but please I want to hear what it is you think is that specifically makes modern Republican ideals a superior path forward for minorities and why?
Didn't say Jim Crow benefited black people at all. Just that we had more progress under it. I don't think Jim Crow is a solution, but I don't think a welfare state is a solution either.
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Besides, even Backpagers give a pic preview before you pay for them. You’re business model is as fucked as your pathetic little girl dick. I bet you have a laundry list of things you wouldn’t do.
Check your facebook :shh
I see nothing.
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I know, you thirsty bitch.
I’m hoping you got me confused with some other Borean and spammed MAF or Cruncheon or Willco or Demi with dick pics.
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Only Tasty gets the goods.
Into twinks, like a filthy old man. A regular Bryan Singer.
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I've personally groomed tasty into becoming my perfect little fucktoy, what are you offering?
I told you, 20 dollars for some decent shirtless bulge. Minutes of work.
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:uguu Pleased to meet you. :-[
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I've personally groomed tasty into becoming my perfect little fucktoy, what are you offering?
I told you, 20 dollars for some decent shirtless bulge. Minutes of work.
I'll just settle for fucking you senseless when I meet you in person, sorry.
This is essentially a free 20 dollars. That’s like almost two packs of cigarettes. Almost an eighth of okay weed. For no nudity.
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To show I’m in this for good faith.
I wish I could beleive the Democratic Party. I just can’t anymore. On paper they sound good. They’re about different kinds of people and stuff. But they don’t like different ideas. Like I said last night, I feel like I’m forced to think one way as a liberal. I feel like I’m not allowed any independence. I’m not sure if that’s a reflection of the times or not.
I feel like liberalism eats itself because by the very definition, it’s about being liberal - going beyond the means and stretching it. And sometimes things don’t need much stretching and fine being the same. That’s okay and should be perfectly fine. I think their tax policies for instance go beyond the means and end up hurting constituencies.m
Also say what you want, I find the personal responsibility ethos of conservatism appealing. Liberals tend to blame problemsnlike white supremacy and racism for all of blacks problems. That’s certainly there and that’s not to undermine its existence but...so what? Liberals tend to pain this idea that there’s no point in trying, that there’s so many barriers for difficulty. That’s there’s oppressive systems working against you. And? So what? Does that mean I shouldn’t try? Ultimately, a lot of people I knew growing up used things like racism for their failures and maybe they did happen. But it’s a self fulfilling prophecy blaming systems that are beyond your control as evidence for being apathetic towards your own personal growth. Maybe it was a different time, but the things black people achieved under Jim Crow should be forever lauded as human resilience in a period of tyranny and second class citizenship. If there’s any lesson to take away from it it’s this: nothing should be an obstacle for pursuing your own personhood and that’s precisely what black folks did. All white people are racist you say? White supremacy? Systemic racism? Who cares? We certainly don’t have it worse than the people of Jim Crow black America and they made shit poppin’. That isn’t to say we have nothing to strive for to make things better, but democrats are far too likely to undervalue personal responsibility to the point where they consider it attacking the victim.
Why should I remain in the Democratic Party? They’re pro-abortion, anti-gun, put band-aids on societal problems rather than try to fix them, place well intentioned legislation that always ends up fucking over black people, consider black voters expendable, insult rule of law while defending people who are here ILLEGALLY, put their groups against each other (poor citizens vs poor immigrants, working class white people vs working class minorities, poor and middle class constituents vs their elite higher ups, value women but not ALL women;etc), and more and more frequently are enemies of free speech.
They have a completely different set of problems than Republicans.
I’d like serious reasons for remain with the party.
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This gentleman has the literally same mindset as me.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrisladd/2017/07/18/as-frustration-builds-among-black-democrats-alternatives-are-limited/#5a9777e47e5d
What’s in it for me? Democrats love social programs but little in the way of promoting independence. Black independence is the ultimate goal here. Why stick around? Why keep doing it? The main difference between him and me is that I’m willing to make a deal with the devil. Say what you want about Republican policies, but the foundation of conservatism - things like hard work, are tangible things that can be used for black liberation. There’s a limitation another handout can achieve. Handouts belittle the person receiving it. They learn nothing in return. That isn’t to say there should be no handouts at all. But there comes a time when the baby bird must leave the nest. How long do Democrats plan on using these social programs? How do they envision making the poor not poor?
Why is the black vote earned? By any definition of the word, it isn’t. Not by Democrats *or* Republicans. But at the very least, Republicans’ ideology presents the better blueprint for individual success.
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Who is/was Cream?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjYjUdMsf00&t=2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjYjUdMsf00&t=2)
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This gentleman has the literally same mindset as me.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrisladd/2017/07/18/as-frustration-builds-among-black-democrats-alternatives-are-limited/#5a9777e47e5d
What’s in it for me? Democrats love social programs but little in the way of promoting independence. Black independence is the ultimate goal here. Why stick around? Why keep doing it? The main difference between him and me is that I’m willing to make a deal with the devil. Say what you want about Republican policies, but the foundation of conservatism - things like hard work, are tangible things that can be used for black liberation. There’s a limitation another handout can achieve. Handouts belittle the person receiving it. They learn nothing in return. That isn’t to say there should be no handouts at all. But there comes a time when the baby bird must leave the nest. How long do Democrats plan on using these social programs? How do they envision making the poor not poor?
Why is the black vote earned? By any definition of the word, it isn’t. Not by Democrats *or* Republicans. But at the very least, Republicans’ ideology presents the better blueprint for individual success.
Yeah they’re Ideology might present the better blueprint for individual success. if only they were actually at all interested in ever giving you the tools
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Are there any fucking girls on this forum, i have an itch to cyber and lemurs is all grown up now :-\
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I won’t vote D again until they earn my vote. Until then, I’ll work my ass off in my own to caucus for my interests in the Republican Party.
Let us know how that works out
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So all the "keep the reeee thread on topic" purists were being disingenuous. I get it "on topic" really means "mod approved topics that we like, such as shitty animated shows" :hitler
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Are there any fucking girls on this forum, i have an itch to cyber and lemurs is all grown up now :-\
Shosta has not posted for a few days. :-\
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stosta was banned by bork. he told me not to tell anyone.
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Shosta was banned because this is an 18+ forum
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So all the "keep the reeee thread on topic" purists were being disingenuous. I get it "on topic" really means "mod approved topics that we like, such as shitty animated shows" :hitler
"on topic" for this thread is apparently being a grindr rip-off
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Here's another article, focusing on 'burbs:
https://praisedc.com/1683807/10-richest-black-communities-in-america/ (https://praisedc.com/1683807/10-richest-black-communities-in-america/)
Most of them are in Prince George's County, MD. And the rest are in NY and CA. Though for the latter 2, that could be more because cost of living is high and that has an effect on raising incomes across the board.
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I know, you thirsty bitch.
:neogaf :dead :dead :dead
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So black income has increased and black poverty has significantly decreased since 1960, but I'm supposed to believe we were better off under Jim Crow because a few colleges and towns were built back then? I'm really curious and confused right now but ultimately my question Cindi: do you realize how fucking ignorant you sound? You say liberalism has failed yet the poverty rate is significantly lower now than it was pre-LBJ. I'm not going to call liberal policies a smashing success but Jesus Christ...the data is readily available and pretty conclusive in terms of the "are folks better off or nah" meter. And if you really want to get into nerdy policy shit, poor people today are a lot better off than they were before the mid 1960s.
This goes back to the gun debate for me. It is very clear you regurgitate information you've been given without checking sources or reading. And you love anecdotes and don't care about data. I shouldn't have to explain to a black person that things are better for the average black person today than they were under Jim Crow. And I've seen this debate play out enough on The Coli with delusional militants to know exactly what information you're going to copy and paste in response to this post.
The dominant recipients of welfare in America are white people, specifically white women. Yet I never hear arguments about why/how welfare is stripping whites of initiative, progress, ethics, etc. Only blacks and Hispanics are vulnerable to the ills of government assistance, apparently.
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and it's pricing people out because the neighborhood committees have blocked any new housing development for years keeping dirty middle classers out
That's partially because of the Tech Companies/Gentrification and not being active in the city development. I'd say if Google and Crew made some place like Pittsburg their headquarters, it'd happen there as well with their clueless disregard for their "host city."
The dominant recipients of welfare in America are white people, specifically white women. Yet I never hear arguments about why/how welfare is stripping whites of initiative, progress, ethics, etc. Only blacks and Hispanics are vulnerable to the ills of government assistance, apparently.
Just to back this up (http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,156084,00.html). One for 2017 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/02/16/the-biggest-beneficiaries-of-the-government-safety-net-working-class-whites/?utm_term=.44d8f0b52ab3).
Trump: "Yo, I got ya'll (white working class)s backs. :luciellebluthwink "
Clinton: *crickets*
Not hard to see why said class would vote Republican IN ADDITION to buying that bullshit "I became rich on my own merits"/bootstrap bullshit. Republican handwave the white problems away with "THOSE OTHER GUYS! *points at other races* ARE TAKING YOUR DREAMS!" and Cindi swallows it hook-line-and-sinker.
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I won’t vote D again until they earn my vote. Until then, I’ll work my ass off in my own to caucus for my interests in the Republican Party.
Let us know how that works out
:neogaf
Given politicians like Rand Paul, doesn’t hurt to try. Rand Paul might be my favorite politician today. Very few Democrats care like he does. I’m sure there are other Republicans like him.
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Before I begin posting in earnest can I be assured that the user of the cream account is legitimate and not an impostor?
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Rand Paul 2020 :american
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The financial outcomes of black Americans improved because they migrated north and got decent, non-farm jobs. 1.1 million in the 50's and 2.4 million in the 60's. Well before the laws of LBJ were enacted and enforced.
If you compare the poverty rates for blacks from 1970 to today, they've remained pretty consistent (around 25-30%).
I would say the FDR programs (min. wage, PWA/WPA, housing laws etc) had a lot more to do with the improvement of AA lives, then what LBJ had passed.
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https://youtu.be/S3RHnKYNvx8
:noah
If only bernie had a millionth of his fucking charisma :-\
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Don’t forget Toxic, that LBJ focused effort on Vietnam.
I remain unconvinced that LBJ policies have helped black Americans under any lasting metric.
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Not hard to see why said class would vote Republican IN ADDITION to buying that bullshit "I became rich on my own merits"/bootstrap bullshit. Republican handwave the white problems away with "THOSE OTHER GUYS! *points at other races* ARE TAKING YOUR DREAMS!" and Cindi swallows it hook-line-and-sinker.
Nope. Most Latinos aren’t illegal immigrants. I’m fine with immigration so long as it’s not done in mass numbers. And I’m completely against illegal immigration in any form. I don’t think people should be rewarded for entering Americai llegally and making DACA recipients citizens creates a bad precedent that tells the world: enter our country in spite of all sovereignty and become a citizen. Nah. Considering that 30% of Latinos vote Republican that’s quite an accusation. Immigration, in mass numbers and illegally, hurt people at home.
I’m all for immigration and immigrants. They help America be what it is. But Democrats’ now is not one of embracing America’s immigrant past and present but one that undermines American citizens in favor of immigrants - even those who come here illegally. There’s zero reason an illegal immigrant should ever be considered more important or have more opportunity than a born and raised American. And that’s just reality. When you live in California and you give an illegal immigrant a state position you make a mockery of America, its laws, its history, its sacrifices.
Let’s look at how other countries handle illegal immigration shall we?
Italy: “penalizes illegal immigrants with a fine of €5,000-10,000 and allows immigration officials to detain them for up to 6 months.”
Australia: “collectively require the authorities to detain all non-citizens who are discovered in Australia without a valid visa.”
http://foreignpolicy.com/2010/04/29/the-worlds-worst-immigration-laws/
Are they accused of racism? Nah.
Mexico complains about racism towards Mexican immigrants but...
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/06/15/immigrants-mexico-abused-kidnapped/85798440/
We are actually pretty lenient and compassionate in comparison. Compassion is good, but many liberals now espouse an open border philosophy, which is completely unacceptable.
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Hmm so like i find cheeseburgers gross but i dont hate them or think they deserve to be prejudiced by the law. I mean they just creep me the fuck out and make me queasy. So in the literal sense of the word i am transPHOBIC. The term does unfortunately not distinguish between people who actively want their rights diminished or worse. We need new words!
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Before I begin posting in earnest can I be assured that the user of the cream account is legitimate and not an impostor?
Dunno how I would assure that sorry.
But I promise
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Are there any fucking girls on this forum, i have an itch to cyber and lemurs is all grown up now :-\
Shosta has not posted for a few days. :-\
ISP turned off the tap, it seems. We'll see if he spends some quality time catching up. :heh
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I wake up to no dick in my inbox, after all the seeds I’ve been planting. Bitches, show me your dicks.
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The financial outcomes of black Americans improved because they migrated north and got decent, non-farm jobs. 1.1 million in the 50's and 2.4 million in the 60's. Well before the laws of LBJ were enacted and enforced.
If you compare the poverty rates for blacks from 1970 to today, they've remained pretty consistent (around 25-30%).
I would say the FDR programs (min. wage, PWA/WPA, housing laws etc) had a lot more to do with the improvement of AA lives, then what LBJ had passed.
Why are you comparing 70s to today? My point was specifically that the Great Society policies cut poverty (nearly 30% for the country in total) among blacks.
Housing laws and even minimum wage changes in the New Deal were rarely applied to black people. Great Society changes were more readily available, from federal loans to Medicare to welfare.
DISCLAIMER: I am not saying LBJ was a great president overall, I am talking specifically about his domestic policies. Not Vietnam.
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I wake up to no dick in my inbox, after all the seeds I’ve been planting. Bitches, show me your dicks.
Price?
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Before I begin posting in earnest can I be assured that the user of the cream account is legitimate and not an impostor?
Dunno how I would assure that sorry.
But I promise
🕵🏻♂️ Story checks out
Not changing my avatar or tag tho bork :ufup
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Wait what’s this about selling our bodies to tvc
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Hey Cindi what shape is the earth
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Hmm so like i find cheeseburgers gross but i dont hate them or think they deserve to be prejudiced by the law. I mean they just creep me the fuck out and make me queasy. So in the literal sense of the word i am transPHOBIC. The term does unfortunately not distinguish between people who actively want their rights diminished or worse. We need new words!
the word you are looking for is "pussy". You are a huge pussy
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Spherical.
Dipshit.
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:lol
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I give that like a year til you expend all the other contrarian positions you can take to antagonize the fools who still engage you on anything here
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Spherical.
Dipshit.
It's actually an oblate spheroid.
Dumbass.
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Are there any fucking girls on this forum, i have an itch to cyber and lemurs is all grown up now :-\
Shosta has not posted for a few days. :-\
He's been focusing on his alt account lately.
Cream
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Why are you comparing 70s to today? My point was specifically that the Great Society policies cut poverty (nearly 30% for the country in total) among blacks.
I'm saying the poverty rate of blacks in 1970 was 30% and basically stayed around there since then. Huge, top-down policies often take many years before they effect the people. So, I think it would be highly disingenuous to use the massive migration of blacks during the 50's and 60's (into union jobs) as proof that LBJ's policies worked. Those economic gains were already rapidly changing.
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I give that like a year til you expend all the other contrarian positions you can take to antagonize the fools who still engage you on anything here
Then why engage with me now? Don’t bother speaking to me then. How about you put me on ignore and don’t speak to me again if I’m that hard to engage? save yourself some time if you don’t like that much.
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In the long-term, exactly how has the war on poverty and great society helped decrease poverty among black people? If it worked, wouldn’t there be an upward trend? Or is this when we start blaming the drug war and other policies?
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Or is this when we start blaming the drug war and other policies?
Yes? Are you really going to ignore that there have been many policies as well as a deep systemic racism keeping black people as a whole from making progress? A systemic racism that republicans contribute to massively, and near-universally?
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Ah yes, Italy and Australia, those paragons of virtue and racial equality :dead
Straw man.
It’s in a nations interest to protect its borders.
As we can see...
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/01/13/world/canada/quebec-immigrants-haitians.html?referer=https://www.google.com/
But that’s all you got: strawmen. You don’t even have an argument much less a rebuttal.
Yet America is the racist one for wanting instill rule of law. The excess of leftism rears its ugly head. Like I said before, clearly it’s a disease.
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Or is this when we start blaming the drug war and other policies?
Yes? Are you really going to ignore that there have been many policies as well as a deep systemic racism keeping black people as a whole from making progress? A systemic racism that republicans contribute to massively, and near-universally?
Nope. I’ve said before ending the war on drugs would go a long way to helping black people. It’s just funny is all.
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Or is this when we start blaming the drug war and other policies?
Yes? Are you really going to ignore that there have been many policies as well as a deep systemic racism keeping black people as a whole from making progress? A systemic racism that republicans contribute to massively, and near-universally?
Nope. I’ve said before ending the war on drugs would go a long way to helping black people. It’s just funny is all.
You can’t really argue that liberal and democratic policies don’t work to make black lives better when they haven’t even really been given a real chance at all.
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Now, literally ALL REPUBLICANS are doing things to ACTIVELY make things worse for blacks. And many other Americans.
This is ridiculous. Literally all Republicans? It's like you're categorizing Republicans as villains. It's cartoonish and hilarious. Especially considering people like Rand Paul.
I notice you ignore Nola’s helpful list:
Economic models which advocate stagnating or eliminating the minimum wage, eliminating most social program spending, gutting education, allowing re-segregation of communities, drastically slashing healthcare spending, eliminating labor protections including affirmative action and discrimination laws, and putting as much power into the hands of the ownership of capital that can be politically mustered, whom prop up the Republican party and who they have proven to be almost entirely responsive to.
I think neither party is correct on minimum wage. Democrats want to raise it to 15 but you know when I saw Black Panther? No one in the front desk. It was just a bunch of machines. Upping that to 15 would be catastrophic and have employees replaced almost immediately.
Depends on the social program. Social programs shouldn't be eliminated, but they should be re-tooled. Far too many are overly reliant on them with no progress and a welfare state leads to a lack of happiness and fulfillment. I'm against welfare states, but I also fine social programs useful. We should do more to help people transition from being on social programs. Things like social security are fine, and not every Republican supports gutting it.
Education should get more out of it, but I'm also fine with things like charter schools but both options are bad, and Democrats don't seem to be doing well on the education front either, given states like California. Education in general is a mixed bag. I'd personally take a bit of the military budget and put it in education.
Re-segregation might not be entirely a negative. I have posited before many times that black people tried to integrate far too quickly rather than push for equality. There's also the argument that integration hurt black Americans. Certainly, Asian Americans and Latino Americans are kind of segregated from the rest of the population and they're self reliant. Not a lot of black people these days see integration as an inherently good thing and I'm one of them. The case could be made that a lot of white liberals believe in the idea of integration. Read here: https://www.colorlines.com/articles/did-integration-hurt-black-neighborhoods
I'm definitely up on Republicans' asses on healthcare spending. But let's not forget: ACA was originally Romney's. Healthcare is a basic right and more Republican constituents realize this. This will force Republicans to shift on their stance by necessity.
RE: labor protections. Affirmative action should be changed from racial-based to economic-based. Affirmative action ignores ethnic groups along racial lines. Well off Nigerians vying for higher education are lumped in with black Americans. Affirmative Action needs to be retooled from the ground up. It's based on 1960's politics with 1960's demographics in mind. It hurts Asian Americans for instance. See: https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2014/11/20/365547463/new-affirmative-action-cases-say-policies-hurt-asian-americans However, taking away AA in California hurt black and latino students. So it's a tough subject.
Republicans definitely need to work on discrimination laws. It's my biggest problem with the party especially their treatment of anti-discrimination laws towards LGBT people.
Some people in the Democratic party would want to raise it to 15, but that is really beside the point, you could go back and forth for pages debating where the cost/benefit threshold is on changing the federal minimum wage and Democrats do that all the time. But broadly speaking, Republicans are in favor of stagnating or eliminating it entirely. And this is important to not isolate from the rest of the discussion, because while they are seeking to reduce labor's safety net through a minimum wage, they are in favor of simultaneously reducing the amount of social services the government provides across the board. So you are putting downward pressure on wages by hacking away the minimum wage while also eliminating the very programs you will need as a result of that sort of policy. Automation is a real long-term threat, but that is an argument in favor of a robust set of social services, not against. As the alternative is to put enough continual downward pressure on wages to never make automation a more economically viable alternative to human labor. That is a pretty dark path to take.
Welfare state is a throwaway buzz word, what programs are you for and against, why, and what is the alternative method of addressing those needs? That is all that needs to be established. You want Social Security, a universal healthcare system, education funding, and some additional yet defined social spending, all things Republicans historically and presently have attempted to hatchet at every level of government they have been in. This is why I point to places like Oklahoma and Kansas.
We also need to discuss regulatory policy. The post I made that got moved yesterday was 5 links speaking about redlining. A concept where banks and people in the real estate industry explicitly discriminate against minorities in the way they issue loans, price real estate, or offer real estate services to minorities. Those links were not just from the 80's, they were from last year and 2016. This shit still happens today. And thanks to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau they were caught and penalized. Now what would Republicans see to do here? What they have already done, hollow out those regulatory bodies and allow these industries to operate without meaningful oversight. It is more abstract, but that is real harm that gets imposed on minorities that do everything right, have the same income and credentials as a white buyer, but are forced into a higher interest home, possibly at a higher price, and only shown in lower quality neighborhoods. Which is a real long-term harm that is going to affect a minorities long-term wealth and continues the ongoing pressures that create wealth disparity between white and black people in this country and undercuts ways we have attempted to correct it.
As to re-segregation, I was specifically referring to what is being attempted once again in places like Baton Rouge. This is not pockets of communities trying to strengthen themselves by banding together within a county and improving their community. This is referring specifically to what white people in some communities are attempting to do to siphon off the wealthy parts of towns and isolate the poor, minority parts of the town by separating the parish into two. Immediately cutting off the vast majority of funding needed to aide these impoverished areas of the country. And just think this through. So you have had a community with very little revenue thanks to Republican policies for decades, that is already struggling with crime, poverty, and gross neglect in education having that already sparse spending getting sliced by a third of what it once was. How does the police department fund itself anymore? Well, like in Ferguson, they might be forced to criminalize the community just to fund basic police services by over-policing minor crimes. But maybe they escape that, but they certainly won't escape how that will harm school funding and how the harm that the reversal of bussing policies since the 60's would do to community graduation rates and crime.
Liberal policies have failed black people as much as conservative policies. I guess I’m this case “conservative” because Republicans are rarely conservative as per the actual definition. Black leaders are overwhelmingly Democratic. What have their policies done to help black people? They’re the ones begging like a dog to be oppressed as seen in the aforementioned links.
As the above shows, bullshit.
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Or is this when we start blaming the drug war and other policies?
Yes? Are you really going to ignore that there have been many policies as well as a deep systemic racism keeping black people as a whole from making progress? A systemic racism that republicans contribute to massively, and near-universally?
Nope. I’ve said before ending the war on drugs would go a long way to helping black people. It’s just funny is all.
You can’t really argue that liberal and democratic policies don’t work to make black lives better when they haven’t even really been given a real chance at all.
Haha. That argument. Like I said before, the war on drugs was originally proposed by black democratic leaders. They begged Nixon to do it. Bill Clinton signed the crime bill that put men in a school to prison pipeline.
Since you ignored it last time get a good whiff.
https://www.wnyc.org/story/313060-profile-charles-rangel-and-drug-wars/
And
http://prisontime.org/2013/08/12/timeline-black-support-for-the-war-on-drugs/
Essentially, the drug war IS a liberal policy.
You can’t point to the war on drugs as a sole conservative policy without ignoring its history while saying “liberal policies just haven’t been given a chance!” :lol Please.
Clearly, liberal policies have a vast history of hurting black people. Stop acting like they haven’t had the opportunity to be tried, that they haven’t had the opportunity to thrive. Remember that liberals instill the drug war remaining in law as much as Republicans.
Liberal policies have failed black people as much as conservative policies. I guess in this case “conservative” because Republicans are rarely conservative as per the actual definition. Black leaders are overwhelmingly Democratic. What have their policies done to help black people? They’re the ones begging like a dog to be oppressed as seen in the aforementioned links.
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Yeah that’s cool and all but I’m trying to price some wares itt
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Ah yes, Italy and Australia, those paragons of virtue and racial equality :dead
Hey, Romper Stomper had some good ideas.
https://youtu.be/_kCVjHnpitc
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I give that like a year til you expend all the other contrarian positions you can take to antagonize the fools who still engage you on anything here
Then why engage with me now? Don’t bother speaking to me then. How about you put me on ignore and don’t speak to me again if I’m that hard to engage? save yourself some time if you don’t like that much.
I'm way ahead of you but occasionally I revive ya for the fuckery. Don't mistake my drive-by derision for engagement homie, I ain't out here wasting dexterity points with these foolios arguing with you about whether the sky is blue or water is wet or republicans are racist or whatever dumb shit is your latest weekly cause that you want to yell at people about
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Here’s the thing that you don’t want to admit, Cream: that a large portion of black failure since the 60’s is because of black people. Beyond the institutional awfulness, COINTELPRO, the drug war, AIDS and other very real problems you don’t want to admit what in your heart of hearts you know to be true: that blacks have voted, lobbied, and governed against their own interests for 50 years. Static level of power and wealth compared to 1968 sees to proving that much. There’s so much pointing and blaming people can take before looking inwardly. Like I said, black people made shit pop even when second class citizens under far harsher conditions. We’ve been applying the Jesse Jackson strategies far too long. Clearly what we’re doing now doesn’t work. How long till you can readily admit that fact?
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Here’s the thing that you don’t want to admit, Cream: that a large portion of black failure since the 60’s is because of black people. Beyond the institutional awfulness, COINTELPRO, the drug war, AIDS and other very real problems you don’t want to admit what in your heart of hearts you know to be true: that blacks have voted, lobbied, and governed against their own interests for 50 years. Static level of power and wealth compared to 1968 sees to proving that much. There’s so much pointing and blaming people can take before looking inwardly. Like I said, black people made shit pop even when second class citizens under far harsher conditions. We’ve been applying the Jesse Jackson strategies far too long. Clearly what we’re doing now doesn’t work. How long till you can readily admit that fact?
Go fuck yourself you coon bitch. I’m done with you.
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Coon.
That’s all you got.
Watch your language, Cream. You’re being misogynistic using the b-word.
https://youtu.be/Vr0bcaExFTs
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I give that like a year til you expend all the other contrarian positions you can take to antagonize the fools who still engage you on anything here
Then why engage with me now? Don’t bother speaking to me then. How about you put me on ignore and don’t speak to me again if I’m that hard to engage? save yourself some time if you don’t like that much.
I'm way ahead of you but occasionally I revive ya for the fuckery. Don't mistake my drive-by derision for engagement homie, I ain't out here wasting dexterity points with these foolios arguing with you about whether the sky is blue or water is wet or republicans are racist or whatever dumb shit is your latest weekly cause that you want to yell at people about
Fuck you too. :)
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I’m glad the supposed disillusionment and disenfranchisement that has lead to black people basically living in third-world communities, apparently TOTALLY their own fault, is so hilarious to you. The BANTS are just to good to pass up, huh?
You disgust me.
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Oh I’m not laughing at black people at all. I’m actually very much pissed on that subject.
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Oh I’m not laughing at black people at all. I’m actually very much pissed on that subject.
You’re laughing at me.
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Oh I’m an Oreo now, huh?
Big talk coming from someone who is individualist among a nation of suicide bombers and theocracy. Why won’t you stop cooning, Exodust?! What happened to Allahu ackbar, fam?
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Wow good one, you're totally really good at this and don't look weak as fuck or anything
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:whoo
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Wow good one, you're totally really good at this and don't look weak as fuck or anything
Sorry, I don’t know the Arab equivalent of an Oreo. I should have told him to blow his ass up instead.
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Jesus christ, you're even shittier at racism than you are a critical thinking
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How many pages back are we from people caping for cream because they were dogpiled and we get people here ready to dogpile Cindi?
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Cindi has become Ruckus from The Boondocks. What a time to be alive.
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Oh I’m not laughing at black people at all. I’m actually very much pissed on that subject.
You’re laughing at me.
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2016/11/the-link-between-autism-and-trans-identity/507509/
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Thank you!
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How many pages back are we from people caping for cream because they were dogpiled and we get people here ready to dogpile Cindi?
At least Cream isn't arguing in bad faith. Cindi is christian or something. (Pro-tip: All faiths are bad.)
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I thought for Arabs it was sand distinguished black fellow.
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Oh I’m not laughing at black people at all. I’m actually very much pissed on that subject.
You’re laughing at me.
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2016/11/the-link-between-autism-and-trans-identity/507509/
What the fuck is wrong with you, you hateful bitch?
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How many pages back are we from people caping for cream because they were dogpiled and we get people here ready to dogpile Cindi?
At least Cream isn't arguing in bad faith. Cindi is christian or something. (Pro-tip: All faiths are bad.)
Well, I’m terrible at everything so...:uguu
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Just like a republican to talk a big game on radical Islam only to bend over to a Saudi.
:lol Pretty good. You engaged to your 12 year old cousin yet?
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How many pages back are we from people caping for cream because they were dogpiled and we get people here ready to dogpile Cindi?
(Pro-tip: All faiths are bad.)
Objection.
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vampirediaries/images/a/a7/Buffy_-_Faith.jpg)
:noah
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I thought for Arabs it was sand distinguished black fellow.
I was going to offer cow tale because it's the only candy I can think of to fit the slander pattern.
(https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.liketotally80s.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F11%2Fcow-tales.jpg&f=1)
:drool
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I don’t get why they call them sand ______. Why would that offend them? They eat sand for breakfast over there.
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Oh I’m not laughing at black people at all. I’m actually very much pissed on that subject.
You’re laughing at me.
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2016/11/the-link-between-autism-and-trans-identity/507509/
I saw some commercial for a dutch program called "It's Autistic in Here".
The first thing it showed was some fat white girl with purple coloured hair going: "Yeah, I'm Two-Spirit and Dragonkin."
Made me laugh.
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Just like a republican to talk a big game on radical Islam only to bend over to a Saudi.
:lol Pretty good. You engaged to your 12 year old cousin yet?
Nah, I immigrated to molest your children and murder your gays, obviously.
!!!!
:stop
They’re coming!!!!
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I thought for Arabs it was sand distinguished black fellow.
I was going to offer cow tale because it's the only candy I can think of to fit the slander pattern.
(https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.liketotally80s.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F11%2Fcow-tales.jpg&f=1)
:drool
Cream center. :)
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How many pages back are we from people caping for cream because they were dogpiled and we get people here ready to dogpile Cindi?
Which would apply if we now banned Cindi for responding.
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I don’t get why they call them sand ______. Why would that offend them? They eat sand for breakfast over there.
Wow, you really suck at this.
It’s not in my nature! I’m so sorry! :stop :stahp
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How many pages back are we from people caping for cream because they were dogpiled and we get people here ready to dogpile Cindi?
Which would apply if we now banned Cindi for responding.
:rejoice
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Remember when Rand Paul said he disagreed with the (federal) essence of the Civil Rights Act. Remember when his dad basically argued against the necessity of the Civil War. OH and remember when his dad wrote those racist letters.
Libertarianism, the paragons of the black community
:neogaf
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I don’t get why they call them sand ______. Why would that offend them? They eat sand for breakfast over there.
Wow, you really suck at this.
You probably eat rocks as well and your shit is white. Just like a bird. A SHITBIRD!
Showed you! Take that!
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I don’t get why they call them sand ______. Why would that offend them? They eat sand for breakfast over there.
Wow, you really suck at this.
You probably eat rocks as well and your shit is white. Just like a bird. A SHITBIRD!
Showed you! Take that!
:stop
Stop spreading Nazi-ism on the Bore!
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we should start a pool on how long it takes til we get "republicans freed the slaves"
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I think she already mentioned that before.
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My job here is done.
Rumbler is here.
Please sir, perma ban me.
(https://i1.wp.com/www.whaleoil.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/oliver-twist-please-sir-can-i-have-some-more-begging-bowl.jpeg)
Let us part ways.
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Just because you became a conservative Republican doesn't mean you gotta start slinging around racial slurs, too.
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Stop spreading Nazi-ism on the Bore!
I'm actually a commie that votes social democrat cause communism only works on small scale, but don't tell anyone.
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So it’s okay to call someone you’ve been friends with for over a decade an oreo though huh
Eye for an eye
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Slur-ridden mea culpa combined with a martyr complex, pretty good finale to this season tbh.
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My job here is done.
Rumbler is here.
Please sir, perma ban me.
(https://i1.wp.com/www.whaleoil.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/oliver-twist-please-sir-can-i-have-some-more-begging-bowl.jpeg)
Let us part ways.
Post some hentai on this page and I will. Otherwise, I won't.
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Oreo is a pretty offensive thing. Those things taste like shit. How'd they manage to make a chocolate cookie taste burnt...
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Wow good one, you're totally really good at this and don't look weak as fuck or anything
Sorry, I don’t know the Arab equivalent of an Oreo.
A Chaldean. Catholic infidels :piss2
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Oreo is a pretty offensive thing. Those things taste like shit. How'd they manage to make a chocolate cookie taste burnt...
Just like in real life, the best part of an oreo is the white stuff. :phil
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Oreo is a pretty offensive thing. Those things taste like shit. How'd they manage to make a chocolate cookie taste burnt...
burnt? Wtf are you having a years-long stroke or something? would explain a lot tbh
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Thanks Rumbler.
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Oreo is a pretty offensive thing. Those things taste like shit. How'd they manage to make a chocolate cookie taste burnt...
burnt? Wtf are you having a years-long stroke or something? would explain a lot tbh
You actually like the way they taste?
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that reminds me; cream i snitched on your creepy ass avatar on re and i don't regret a thing. i know they said a bunch of people reported it but they made you change it like hours later so i like to think i was the straw that broke the camels back
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what the fuck did I miss ???
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Fuck yeah bitch nabisco gang for life. Talk brazy and we'll spray double stuf on ya mommas tiddies when she's renewing her drivers liscense
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Who is cream? I've read some posts in the last couple days but...I don't remember this person from GAF. Tho if that's her in her avatar
:noah
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.
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That's weaker than your trolling, sis. Come on, now.
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Remember when Rand Paul said he disagreed with the (federal) essence of the Civil Rights Act. Remember when his dad basically argued against the necessity of the Civil War. OH and remember when his dad wrote those racist letters.
Libertarianism, the paragons of the black community
:neogaf
smh black people, can't get off the collectivist plantation, attacking tens of good people using one family's ongoing racket (both of whom are fair-weather friends who side with "constitutional conservatism" over the NAP when something like gays come up)
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That's weaker than your trolling, sis. Come on, now.
Sorry, I didn't want to venture into loli lands. :brazilcry
But it appears I must. *rolls up sleeves*
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Why not just leave.
edit: Most of the art in those looks bad. Go get better hentai.
2nd edit: Thanks Rumbler.
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Yo, if you don’t permaban this racist coon bitch shitting up my thread....
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Why not just leave.
eddit: Most of the art in those looks bad. Go get better hentai.
Why leave? She loves groups that hate her. :doge
see you in a few months Cindi
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My job here is done.
Rumbler is here.
Please sir, perma ban me.
(https://i1.wp.com/www.whaleoil.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/oliver-twist-please-sir-can-i-have-some-more-begging-bowl.jpeg)
Let us part ways.
Nobody is going to ban you, you boob. This is all 'on topic', after all. That suddenly matters. And most of all in the trash thread, of all places.
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Okay, you're permabanned now. Good luck in the rest of your life.
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this racist coon
Oh, the ironing.
Get the fuck out.
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cream next pls
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Rand Paul 2020 :american
lol he wouldn't even make it as far as he did in the last primaries
and he's not leaving the safe bosom of the GOP
besides Kokesh already called it and has the kind of serious platform that the American people demand:
an orderly dissolution of the federal government.
The platform is simple. When elected, I will swear in, walk to the White House, and sign one executive order. This executive order will lay out the process for dissolving the federal government in a peaceful, orderly manner. With it, I will be resigning as President to become “Custodian of the Federal Government.” The executive order will appoint heads of each federal department, or “Custodians” who will be instructed to carry out a mostly predetermined plan for their departments. The only authority that I will retain will be to replace Custodians if they are unable to complete their responsibilities or are not faithfully executing the plan.
Some agencies will be very easy to do away with, like those that perform only regulatory functions like the Department of Education, or those that perform completely illegitimate functions, like the IRS. Some departments, like Justice, Federal Bureau of Prisons, Interior, need to be handled carefully and in some ways transferred to state governments. National Parks will be preserved as independent non-profits that will be open to the public. American troops abroad will be immediately brought home in a responsible and orderly manner that does not endanger their lives. All foreign federal properties will be liquidated. The offensive weaponry of the Department of Defense will also be liquidated (while defensive weaponry and appropriate personnel will be apportioned to the states) and the funds will be used to create endowments for the newly privatized Department of Veterans Affairs owned by veterans, and Social Security Administration, owned by every American who has paid into it as of the signing of the executive order.
Without your support, the inevitable collapse of the US Federal Government will not happen in a peaceful, orderly manner.
:american
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Can Cream have the purple name now?
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cream next pls
I cast a circle of protection spell on cream :bolo
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Can Cream have the purple name now?
Like I really need anymore reason for people to call me Cindi
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Okay, you're permabanned now. Good luck in the rest of your life.
Goddamnit, you're a retriever, not a contradictor. :stahp
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Who is Cream?!?! Cream can you tell me who you are. I am looking for a non-binary person to befriend online in order to increase my social currency. Please tell me how I should address you, your views on BBC, and your favorite problematic fave.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w6m-nhUcos
cosmic trip to park.
rolls reincarnation as jewish buddhist ex-con guerilla.
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Who is Cream?!?! Cream can you tell me who you are. I am looking for a non-binary person to befriend online in order to increase my social currency. Please tell me how I should address you, your views on BBC, and your favorite problematic fave.
Was on GAF for a couple years. I’m black, nonbinary trans. Male and female pronouns both acceptable.
I have a not-so-secret love of BBC and my favorite problematic fave is Dan Harmon, creator of Community and Rick and Morty.
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Can't wait till Himu comes back under an alt after requesting a perma-ban... again.
Really can't see this. The Bore just isn't the kind of place where someone could keep coming back under different usernames time and time again.
Just imagine how embarrassing it would be for them if someone found out and called it out. I mean, Jack Remington would probably just be vicious, especially if it was a Hillary hater like Himu.
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That's weaker than your trolling, sis. Come on, now.
Sorry, I didn't want to venture into loli lands. :brazilcry
This doesn’t sound like the Cindi I know. Her account must of been hacked. Please unban.
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My favourite BBC is the David Attenborough narrated one.
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Cindi asked to get Permed? What? Maintaining all the alts was too much? :hitler
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Did loli porn get posted because cream loves it and we're all just cool with that?
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Who is Cream?!?! Cream can you tell me who you are. I am looking for a non-binary person to befriend online in order to increase my social currency. Please tell me how I should address you, your views on BBC, and your favorite problematic fave.
Was on GAF for a couple years. I’m black, nonbinary trans. Male and female pronouns both acceptable.
I have a not-so-secret love of BBC and my favorite problematic fave is Dan Harmon, creator of Community and Rick and Morty.
Sorry Etoilet, she's cool in my book.
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Did loli porn get posted because cream loves it and we're all just cool with that?
Cindi posted it because she wanted a perma-ban
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Cindi asked to get Permed? What? Maintaining all the alts was too much? :hitler
You know, I've never seen Cindi and Cream's name at the same time inside the "who's online" thing :hitler
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Cindi asked to get Permed? What? Maintaining all the alts was too much? :hitler
You know, I've never seen Cindi and Cream's name at the same time inside the "who's online" thing :hitler
And now you never will
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This is kind of how I figured the battle would end, btw.
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Cindi asked to get Permed? What?
Yeah, I don't get it either. I thought she had afro-textured hair, why get a perm. I'm starting to think she wasn't really black to begin with.
:dolezal
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Cindi asked to get Permed? What?
Yeah, I don't get it either. I thought she had afro-textured hair, why get a perm. I'm starting to think she wasn't really black to begin with.
:dolezal
Lmao
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cream is world champion :rejoice
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Cindi asked to get Permed? What?
Yeah, I don't get it either. I thought she had afro-textured hair, why get a perm. I'm starting to think she wasn't really black to begin with.
:dolezal
I think she meant sperm. Unfortunate typo.
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Cindi asked to get Permed? What?
Yeah, I don't get it either. I thought she had afro-textured hair, why get a perm. I'm starting to think she wasn't really black to begin with.
:dolezal
Actual photo of Cindi:
(https://cdni.rt.com/files/2018.02/article/5a8b276cfc7e934e248b461a.jpg)
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Another victim of the sjw agenda.
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cream is world champion :rejoice
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/2b4c563c2993bc7037306687b84c93ef/tumblr_oi1f9hMamr1qla11zo1_400.gif)
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Another victim of the Social Studies Warrior agenda.
Only victims I see are the people reading your posts
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*clicks new tag*
*no reply from TVC about price*
*leaves thread*
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Another victim of the Social Studies Warrior agenda.
Only victims I see are the people reading your posts
Well, i am white so... It's understandable you feel that way about people with such skin color.
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Another victim of the Social Studies Warrior agenda.
Only victims I see are the people reading your posts
Well, i am white so... It's understandable you feel that way about people with such skin color.
::)
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Another victim of the Social Studies Warrior agenda.
Only victims I see are the people reading your posts
Well, i am white so... It's understandable you feel that way about people with such skin color.
::)
:-*
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dan harmon is such a safe problematic fave smh
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dan harmon is such a safe problematic fave smh
lmfao my thoughts exactly
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God i fuckin wish HolyBaikal would show up here so bad I swear
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It’s either him or idk Tarantino i guess? Cardi B?
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What's Cardi B ever done
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What's Cardi B ever done
Kind of defended her fiancé Offset with some of his transphobic comments.
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I think they're asking for people with criminal convictions.
Taking refuge in countries without extradition treaties with the US work too, I think.
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Oh please. That's some problematic-by-association shit right there. Cardi's a treasure and shouldn't be knocked for sticking by her man even if he's a ding dong
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Well, I do think Polanski is one of the greatest filmmakers ever, and Repulsion is a personal favorite of mine.
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Can't believe the mods would censor Cindi's free speech. Americans have a constitutional right to bear hentai. The Bore is turning into YouTube 2.0 (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/22/business/youtube-gun-ban.html), which makes it actually Nazi Germany 3.0.
FREEZE PEACH
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Varg Vikernes is a true real-tier problematic fave, not a rapper thot posting grams for her boy. Step ur game up cream this protection spell might wear off.
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Varg is tackling the toughest life mysteries
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWVhIn6Nt3o
#problematicfaves
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But my problematic fave is probably Bryan Singer. I legit enjoy his X-men films more than most of the marvel ones plus he has a pretty good eye for casting (:doge)
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But my problematic fave is probably Bryan Singer. I legit enjoy his X-men films more than most of the marvel ones plus he has a pretty good eye for casting (:doge)
tasty alt found
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Like Bryan singer’s x-men movies all suck
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😫
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Well yeah but varg is a p good example
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So to recap:
- Cream on REEE complaining about the bore being alt-right
- Cindi on the Bore complaining about Cream and Social Studies warriors on REE
- Cream joins the bore and shits up REEE thread
- Cindi and Cream make this thread their thunderdome
- Cream wins
- Cream posts on Bore regularly now
Is this the darkest timeline? Or the best one?
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Another problematic fave: Alessandro Dell'Acqua :fabulous
Dig numero 21 immensely but dude does stuff like this https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.out.com/fashion/truman-says/2013/10/30/designers-dolce-gabbana-and-alessandro-dellacqua-blackface-not-ok%3famp
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So to recap:
- Cream on REEE complaining about the bore being alt-right
- Cindi on the Bore complaining about Cream and Social Studies warriors on REE
- Cream joins the bore and shits up REEE thread
- Cindi and Cream make this thread their thunderdome
- Cream wins
- Cream posts on Bore regularly now
Is this the darkest timeline? Or the best one?
Porquenolosdos.gif
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So to recap:
- Cream on REEE complaining about the bore being alt-right
- Cindi on the Bore complaining about Cream and Social Studies warriors on REE
- Cream joins the bore and shits up REEE thread
- Cream pretends not to be Cindi and fights with herself endlessly
- Cream somehow wins against herself
- Cream posts on Bore regularly now
Is this the darkest timeline? Or the best one?
Fixed.
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(https://i.imgur.com/aaQnYsL.gif)
Cindi = Cap
Me = Thanos
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Cap would never give up and abandon us. :(
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Cap would never give up and abandon us. :(
You’re right.
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/RectangularFirsthandAustraliancattledog-max-14mb.gif)
Cindi: Stark
Me: Thanos
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So to recap:
- Cream on REEE complaining about the bore being alt-right
- Cindi on the Bore complaining about Cream and Social Studies warriors on REE
- Cream joins the bore and shits up REEE thread
- Cindi and Cream make this thread their thunderdome
- Cream wins
- Cream posts on Bore regularly now
Is this the darkest timeline? Or the best one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHGHkGmOmD4
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cream alt-right confirmed
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Varg Vikernes is a true real-tier problematic fave, not a rapper thot posting grams for her boy. Step ur game up cream this protection spell might wear off.
Wtf nudemac listens to black metal? :leon :gladbron :obama :mynicca
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Cream what's the breakdown of your posting split between here and reeeee?
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Varg Vikernes is a true real-tier problematic fave, not a rapper thot posting grams for her boy. Step ur game up cream this protection spell might wear off.
Burzum isn't that great, though.
Now I don’t even want to see your horse cock anymore.
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Varg Vikernes is a true real-tier problematic fave, not a rapper thot posting grams for her boy. Step ur game up cream this protection spell might wear off.
Burzum isn't that great, though.
Yes it is. All the pre imprisonment albums are really high quality except the electronic stuff and maybe the s/t, and a lot of the musical and thematic elements in that work went on to power entire bands like Summoning etc etc.
:yeshrug
It's not that I don't appreciate the music itself, I like a lot of it just never loved it :yeshrug
Varg was right about your kind in his rpg.
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made a connection with a fairly hot thicc chick over burzum
she was really into me until she discovered i was persian where afterwards i was promptly called a taco
:trumps
this isn't an isolated incident either. varg fans are racist af
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Varg Vikernes is a true real-tier problematic fave, not a rapper thot posting grams for her boy. Step ur game up cream this protection spell might wear off.
Wtf nudemac listens to black metal? :leon :gladbron :obama :mynicca
not actively, more of a noiseboi
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Varg Vikernes is a true real-tier problematic fave, not a rapper thot posting grams for her boy. Step ur game up cream this protection spell might wear off.
Wtf nudemac listens to black metal? :leon :gladbron :obama :mynicca
not actively, more of a noiseboi
:uguu
You really gotta ditch the wife and kids and come crack me open.
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So this is the kinda shit I miss while keeping to the other side of the forum huh
Who's going for the title next
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cindi = ultimate warrior
nothing she says or does makes any sense, but somehow still a crowd favorite
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made a connection with a fairly hot thicc chick over burzum
she was really into me until she discovered i was persian where afterwards i was promptly called a taco
:trumps
this isn't an isolated incident either. varg fans are racist af
You should have said aryan. Wtf did she assume until then, though? Italian?
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So to recap:
- Cream on REEE complaining about the bore being alt-right
- Cindi on the Bore complaining about Cream and Social Studies warriors on REE
- Cream joins the bore and shits up REEE thread
- Cindi and Cream make this thread their thunderdome
- Cream wins
- Cream posts on Bore regularly now
Is this the darkest timeline? Or the best one?
How long until the cruncheons becomes the creameons ???
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So this thread is the reason why Cindi tweeted me earlier that she'd be deleting her Twitter page? Looks like she did just recently actually. I'm not reading through all these pages.
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So this thread is the reason why Cindi tweeted me earlier that she'd be deleting her Twitter page? Looks like she did just recently actually. I'm not reading through all these pages.
She unfriended me on FB :(
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the ultimate deletion :woken
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Me too 🤷♀️
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Just wanna say, Cream, you are a treasure and Im glad you post here. The amount of fuckery that follows you and how you handle it is great, legitimately.
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Me too 🤷♀️
Oh don't worry. Cindi is still with us, in our hearts. Sometimes it feels like she never left. :hitler
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Me too 🤷♀️
Oh don't worry. Cindi is still with us, in our hearts. Sometimes it feels like she never left. :hitler
Isn't it interesting how only you and Assimilate think they're the same person? Nice try, you almost fooled me with your Assimilate alt :doge
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Oh I wish I were assimilate. I can't wax as poetic about cock as he can.
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Also, your name is I'm a Puppy, but your avatar is a hoofed animal, stop trying to gaslight me
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smh you dopes cocksucking a fake cream :lol
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/neogaf-resetera.9636/page-301#post-3084647
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/neogaf-resetera.9636/page-303#post-3097645
I made a post over at The Bore, do you guys think I pushed it too hard with the whole bigender thing? I just made it up on the spot, sort of getting tired with the whole ruse and hoping people just figure it out: http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45218.msg2383265#msg2383265 (https://archive.fo/ENWQk)
can we unban cindi so you people can apologize now
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:thinking
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I miss Creepy Stalker :goty
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Me too 🤷♀️
Oh don't worry. Cindi is still with us, in our hearts. Sometimes it feels like she never left. :hitler
Isn't it interesting how only you and Assimilate think they're the same person? Nice try, you almost fooled me with your Assimilate alt :doge
You really can't see a ton of similarities between the way they post? How can you get trolled that fucking hard?
:snoop
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Completely fucking fake. I’ve never posted on that site before.
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i knew you had to be too insane to be real
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smh you dopes cocksucking a fake cream :lol
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/neogaf-resetera.9636/page-301#post-3084647
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/neogaf-resetera.9636/page-303#post-3097645
I made a post over at The Bore, do you guys think I pushed it too hard with the whole bigender thing? I just made it up on the spot, sort of getting tired with the whole ruse and hoping people just figure it out: http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45218.msg2383265#msg2383265 (https://archive.fo/ENWQk)
can we unban cindi so you people can apologize now
Well, this is pretty damning evidence. Cream now under review. :thinking
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Jfc I AM real. Someone is trying to trick you guys into thinking I’m fake!
You realize absolutely anyone could’ve done that right
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sorry can you make that text red? thanks
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Wait people didn't think cream was fake? :lol
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(http://media.tenor.com/images/5b7b11a6c93b000e1d3b4d5d6f01b33a/tenor.gif)
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Wait people didn't think cream was fake? :lol
I’M NOT FAKE
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In a way, we’re all cream
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Prime Eliza Dushku :lawd
She's still got it, IMO.
*continues to read this drama*
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Wait people didn't think cream was fake? :lol
I’M NOT FAKE
Riiiiiiiigggghttt. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT9WFRSc7sA&feature=youtu.be&t=119)
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Creepy Stalker was the poster we need. Cream is the poster we deserve.
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Is Fake Cream to Cream what Miracle Whip is to mayo?
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time to post photographic evidence, Cream. Preferably a pic of your arm or something, with a written note that says "I am Cream"
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Real or fake, the drama and discourse that has ensued has been more entertaining than showergate. Doesn't take much to get some people around here all hot and bothered.
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Easy way to confirm. Cream, if I send you my Resetera name, would you send me a PM?
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Jfc I AM real. Someone is trying to trick you guys into thinking I’m fake!
You realize absolutely anyone could’ve done that right
That post is from a month ago. Nobody would be watching this forum that closely and then go make up a post about it on another forum that 99% of the people here don't read.
:trumps
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Easy way to confirm. Cream, if I send you my Resetera name, would you send me a PM?
Didn't 8bitnate already talk to him on reset?
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Easy way to confirm. Cream, if I send you my Resetera name, would you send me a PM?
Okay fine.
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Easy way to confirm. Cream, if I send you my Resetera name, would you send me a PM?
But Cream is a troll there, too. :thinking
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Easy way to confirm. Cream, if I send you my Resetera name, would you send me a PM?
Didn't 8bitnate already talk to him on reset?
Yes!
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Easy way to confirm. Cream, if I send you my Resetera name, would you send me a PM?
But Cream is a troll there, too. :thinking
Cream was always a troll, we knew this. What's the shocker here?
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Who cares if she's fake? I used to post on a forum that pulled a con for like five years pretending to be some girl whose photos she stole from a suicide girl or something. By the time she got doxxed no one cared bc we appreciated the effort.
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Send me a PM too. I'm lyte edge on RE.
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Easy way to confirm. Cream, if I send you my Resetera name, would you send me a PM?
But Cream is a troll there, too. :thinking
Cream was always a troll, we knew this. What's the shocker here?
You guys are way too easy to fuck with. :lol We know. :P
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To be convinced I need to see a thread on ERA from Cream titled:
How I stopped worrying and love the Bore.
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Alright, Cream’s legit.
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I like open ended stories better, why collapse the mystery?
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Alright, Cream’s legit.
You finally got your dick pic?
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Easy way to confirm. Cream, if I send you my Resetera name, would you send me a PM?
But Cream is a troll there, too. :thinking
Cream was always a troll, we knew this. What's the shocker here?
You guys are way too easy to fuck with. :lol We know. :P
Are you saying you're part of kiwi? :thinking
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Real talk for a minute.
I got PM'd that info a little while ago but did not post it because it was brought up that this could be someone just fucking around. Regardless if that's Cream or not, he did just PM me on REEEEE immediately. Also who isn't "doing it for the lulz" in this thread? :doge
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Also who isn't "doing it for the lulz" in this thread?
Actually, i take this very seriously :goty2
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I like open ended stories better, why collapse the mystery?
We need closure.
Season finale getting better and better. First Cindi dramatically exits the show after 10+ seasons and now this.
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/19/88/1e/19881e45e8577a012d2e16c700842847.gif)
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Fake cream on kiwifarms is probably the same guy as fake huelen
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Receipt
(https://i.imgur.com/zil676U.jpg)
Kiwifarms credibility annihilated.
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Real talk for a minute.
I got PM'd that info a little while ago but did not post it because it was brought up that this could be someone just fucking around. Regardless if that's Cream or not, he did just PM me on REEEEE immediately. Also who isn't "doing it for the lulz" in this thread? :doge
The real Cream was fake all along! :ohhh
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can we unban cindi so you people can apologize now
No, please. I don't care if Fake Cream is true or not. But please let Plinko go. It's readily apparent she wanted to be gone for ages.
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Receipt
(https://i.imgur.com/zil676U.jpg)
Kiwifarms credibility annihilated.
BUT I GOT THE SAME EXACT PM
THE REAL CREAM WOULDN'T PM THE SAME THING TO TWO PEOPLE
:lucas
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Cindi asked to be banned. I laid out exactly what she needed to do in order to get banned. She did it. I banned her. End of story.
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Receipt
(https://i.imgur.com/zil676U.jpg)
Kiwifarms credibility annihilated.
Just to be 100% sure, click through to their profile and make sure it's the same. Could be using some unicode funkiness to appear as "Cream" but it's actually a different account.
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Receipt
(https://i.imgur.com/zil676U.jpg)
Kiwifarms credibility annihilated.
BUT I GOT THE SAME EXACT PM
THE REAL CREAM WOULDN'T PM THE SAME THING TO TWO PEOPLE
:lucas
Yes I would because I see all of Bork as one fucking idiot :goty
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Receipt
(https://i.imgur.com/zil676U.jpg)
Kiwifarms credibility annihilated.
Just to be 100% sure, click through to their profile and make sure it's the same. Could be using some unicode funkiness to appear as "Cream" but it's actually a different account.
I clicked through and it went to Lime’s profile!
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Receipt
(https://i.imgur.com/zil676U.jpg)
Kiwifarms credibility annihilated.
BUT I GOT THE SAME EXACT PM
THE REAL CREAM WOULDN'T PM THE SAME THING TO TWO PEOPLE
:lucas
Yes I would because I see all of Bork as one fucking idiot :goty
Bork is all of me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kTBbTSjZpI
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Receipt
(https://i.imgur.com/zil676U.jpg)
Kiwifarms credibility annihilated.
Just to be 100% sure, click through to their profile and make sure it's the same. Could be using some unicode funkiness to appear as "Cream" but it's actually a different account.
I clicked through and it went to Lime’s profile!
:ohhh
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/HtBKcjpHfD7s4/giphy.gif)
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:bow dog :bow2
:piss bork :piss2
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Also, notice that Bore Cream’s avatar has different, larger dimensions than Era Cream, indicating that Bore Cream has access to the source image used for Era Cream’s avatar. Believe Bore Cream.
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Is it possible that Cream is actually Benji? Afterall, Cindi managed to get Benji tempbanned, and now Cream got Cindi banned.
:thinking
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Cindi asked to be banned. I laid out exactly what she needed to do in order to get banned. She did it. I banned her. End of story.
Transparency
:rejoice
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Let me just say: I respect the hell out of Cream for sticking through the hazing and annihilating Himu.
It has been upgraded to Shemale until I find out it has a dick or not. :doge
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Heshe is p cool I think, because content is being created and at the end of the day I just need content at this web address
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Cindi asked to be banned. I laid out exactly what she needed to do in order to get banned. She did it. I banned her. End of story.
Transparency
:rejoice
Now how about sending me an undies pic of your downward bending hog in some underwear that’s so wet it’s transparent? There’s an Andrew Jackson in it for you.
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Cindi asked to be banned. I laid out exactly what she needed to do in order to get banned. She did it. I banned her. End of story.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZxCw4R3rN8
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I told Cindi a week or two ago that posting on thebore was unhealthy for her but I think she took it the wrong way
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Also, notice that Bore Cream’s avatar has different, larger dimensions than Era Cream, indicating that Bore Cream has access to the source image used for Era Cream’s avatar. Believe Bore Cream.
Reverse image searching it, it's not hard to find it's actually from Pinterest. :doge
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Receipt
(https://i.imgur.com/zil676U.jpg)
Kiwifarms credibility annihilated.
Just to be 100% sure, click through to their profile and make sure it's the same. Could be using some unicode funkiness to appear as "Cream" but it's actually a different account.
I clicked through and it went to Lime’s profile!
(https://i.imgur.com/A4FDJdN.gif)
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Also, notice that Bore Cream’s avatar has different, larger dimensions than Era Cream, indicating that Bore Cream has access to the source image used for Era Cream’s avatar. Believe Bore Cream.
Reverse image searching it, it's not hard to find it's actually from Pinterest. :doge
Ugh. I wouldn’t have done the legwork to go to pinterest. I hate that place.
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Afterall, Cindi managed to get Benji tempbanned
lol wat
that was ted danson buddy
spoiler (click to show/hide)
and i wasn't temp banned, i broke my avatar and when i came back like a day or so later people were freaking out for some reason so i didn't fix it right away :lol
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I told Cindi a week or two ago that posting on thebore was unhealthy for her but I think she took it the wrong way
well i mean we are the alt-right "gaming" "forum"
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Receipt
(https://i.imgur.com/zil676U.jpg)
Kiwifarms credibility annihilated.
BUT I GOT THE SAME EXACT PM
THE REAL CREAM WOULDN'T PM THE SAME THING TO TWO PEOPLE
:lucas
Yes I would because I see all of Bork as one fucking idiot :goty
I'm so disappointed in you.
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Receipt
(https://i.imgur.com/zil676U.jpg)
Kiwifarms credibility annihilated.
Just to be 100% sure, click through to their profile and make sure it's the same. Could be using some unicode funkiness to appear as "Cream" but it's actually a different account.
I clicked through and it went to Lime’s profile!
(https://i.imgur.com/A4FDJdN.gif)
OK Cream's alright in my book. 👌🏻
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Or maybe I’m also bork.
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Or maybe I’m also bork.
:heyman
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Afterall, Cindi managed to get Benji tempbanned
lol wat
that was ted danson buddy
spoiler (click to show/hide)
and i wasn't temp banned, i broke my avatar and when i came back like a day or so later people were freaking out for some reason so i didn't fix it right away :lol
Lol, don't get cute, you ragequit the bore for a few days following the fallout from the Ted Danson Event. I enjoyed constructing the narrative that Cindi was the one who slayed you.
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I told Cindi a week or two ago that posting on thebore was unhealthy for her but I think she took it the wrong way
The fact that she cut people off Facebook is just sad. We tried to help her with getting her to understand her bipolar opinions. Instead she just doubled-down thought we were all stupid and hated her.
Oh well.
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Receipt
(https://i.imgur.com/zil676U.jpg)
Kiwifarms credibility annihilated.
BUT I GOT THE SAME EXACT PM
THE REAL CREAM WOULDN'T PM THE SAME THING TO TWO PEOPLE
:lucas
Yes I would because I see all of Bork as one fucking idiot :goty
I'm so disappointed in you.
I’m sorry daddy but they are being mean to me ;-;
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Or maybe I’m also bork.
:heyman
We’re both flamboyant gay men that love pro wrestling. My self-hatred is reflected by our conflict yesterday. We’ve both had years-long sexual relationships with demi that would give us power over this forum.
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Receipt
(https://i.imgur.com/zil676U.jpg)
Kiwifarms credibility annihilated.
BUT I GOT THE SAME EXACT PM
THE REAL CREAM WOULDN'T PM THE SAME THING TO TWO PEOPLE
:lucas
Yes I would because I see all of Bork as one fucking idiot :goty
I'm so disappointed in you.
I’m sorry daddy but they are being mean to me ;-;
Look at this shitty response. Fake Cream so devastated by being exposed that he can't come up with anything now. :'(
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Receipt
(https://i.imgur.com/zil676U.jpg)
Kiwifarms credibility annihilated.
BUT I GOT THE SAME EXACT PM
THE REAL CREAM WOULDN'T PM THE SAME THING TO TWO PEOPLE
:lucas
Yes I would because I see all of Bork as one fucking idiot :goty
I'm so disappointed in you.
I’m sorry daddy but they are being mean to me ;-;
Look at this shitty response. Fake Cream so devastated by being exposed that he can't come up with anything now. :'(
That’s right I’ve been really naughty poster...
I guess you’re going to have to punish me
Right here where everyone can see!
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Fake Cream has clearly handed off the account to someone else.
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Hmm so like i find cheeseburgers gross but i dont hate them or think they deserve to be prejudiced by the law. I mean they just creep me the fuck out and make me queasy. So in the literal sense of the word i am transPHOBIC. The term does unfortunately not distinguish between people who actively want their rights diminished or worse. We need new words!
the word you are looking for is "pussy". You are a huge pussy
No you . Come at me bro. Socal, time and place lets go.
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Hmm so like i find cheeseburgers gross but i dont hate them or think they deserve to be prejudiced by the law. I mean they just creep me the fuck out and make me queasy. So in the literal sense of the word i am transPHOBIC. The term does unfortunately not distinguish between people who actively want their rights diminished or worse. We need new words!
the word you are looking for is "pussy". You are a huge pussy
No you . Come at me bro. Socal, time and place lets go.
You lay off Mr Beaks. He's my beak :heartbeat :heartbeat
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Rename the thread to
~CREAM’S HUMILIATION ZONE~
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You want the whole bore to run a train on you and splooge their cream all over your face don't you, you dirty bitch
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You want the whole bore to run a train on you and splooge their cream all over your face don't you, you dirty bitch
N-No! Anything but that! 😭
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Rename the thread to
~CREAM’S HUMILIATION ZONE~
You’re into that, too? That was a big part of my pitch to Cindi about doing CBT porn.
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Lol, don't get cute, you ragequit the bore for a few days following the fallout from the Ted Danson Event. I enjoyed constructing the narrative that Cindi was the one who slayed you.
it was more like bumavoid because i was basically why got people doxxed
i was angry at cindi going from ERA SUX to ERA RULES to ERA SUX IM BANNED to BESADA'S RIGHT WE ARE SHIT AND BENJI'S DOXXING over like a 24 hour span...but i had said as much in the trash thread
spoiler (click to show/hide)
also i needed to learn how to become the true doxxer
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Hmm so like i find cheeseburgers gross but i dont hate them or think they deserve to be prejudiced by the law. I mean they just creep me the fuck out and make me queasy. So in the literal sense of the word i am transPHOBIC. The term does unfortunately not distinguish between people who actively want their rights diminished or worse. We need new words!
the word you are looking for is "pussy". You are a huge pussy
No you . Come at me bro. Socal, time and place lets go.
look at this fuckin JP. toungefuck my sphincter ya sped
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Cindi asked to be banned. I laid out exactly what she needed to do in order to get banned. She did it. I banned her. End of story.
Now what would I have to do to get Creepy Stalker back? :popular
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Cindi asked to be banned. I laid out exactly what she needed to do in order to get banned. She did it. I banned her. End of story.
Sorry but why isn't this announcement written in red font?
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I don't know what's going on but Cindi sent me a message on twitter to never message her again.
Did you reply "OK", therefore making her :mindblown
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Well, I wasn't here for the previous time(s) that she left and came back, but it doesn't look like she's coming back this time.
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I don't know what's going on but Cindi sent me a message on twitter to never message her again. So I guess I'm not her friend anymore in spite of spending a decade dealing wiht her shit so best of luck to her, ain't going out of my way for her anymore :yeshrug
Tasty is real bae anyway, and I guess Esch even though he's boring as fuck now and barely posts.
Like I said: She thinks everyone around here hates her because she ping-pongs on opinions/issues and can't see we're trying to help her out. But oh well.
Esch really needs to post more.
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Hey you guys, stop posting about Cindi in the Cream thread, off topic posts are a bannable offense :doge
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I don't know what's going on but Cindi sent me a message on twitter to never message her again. So I guess I'm not her friend anymore in spite of spending a decade dealing with her shit so best of luck to her, ain't going out of my way for her anymore :yeshrug
Tasty is real bae anyway, and I guess Esch even though he's boring as fuck now and barely posts.
:-\
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Or maybe I’m also bork.
Then you won’t mind if I send my pissed underwear selfies to the bork account then?
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I don't know what's going on but Cindi sent me a message on twitter to never message her again. So I guess I'm not her friend anymore in spite of spending a decade dealing wiht her shit so best of luck to her, ain't going out of my way for her anymore :yeshrug
Tasty is real bae anyway, and I guess Esch even though he's boring as fuck now and barely posts.
Like I said: She thinks everyone around here hates her because she ping-pongs on opinions/issues and can't see we're trying to help her out. But oh well.
Esch really needs to post more.
I probably got the same exact message from her you guys did.
I avoided making fun of Cindi openly here because we had privately had some nice talks and I told her that I wouldn’t attack her for her beliefs and convictions. Holding up that promise has been difficult with the latest Catholic/Republican turn, but I kept it up. I really like Cindi, but at this point, I think she’s a product of an environment she couldn’t escape from, and rather than continuing to try to escape, she decided to adapt. I feel bad for her, but really, if this is the way she’s adapting, we don’t have much in common anymore.
On the other hand, I guess I was an open jerk to her by enabling the Cream/Cindi deathmatch.
Good luck, Cindi. Be true to yourself.
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I admit I didn't read all this shit the last few weeks, for that I apologize as I'm sure there were lots of likes that needed to be given, but I don't get why this was the red line. A breaking point. Unless there's more to it than this working for the GOP thing. This isn't a Republican friendly forum, and it looked like arguments that have been had for decades by people better paid than us.
It's not like people are going to endlessly shit on you for your politics unless it comes up. I know I'm not an ideal case since everyone is afraid of me making a fool of them, but I'm even more of an outlier than neo-Cindi, and agreed with some of her statements if altered or tweaked or completely reworded. People don't even bust my chops in the politik thread, largely again, out of their fear that I will destroy their state worship, even Mandark passes up freebies now out of fear.
I mean, people are obviously going to want to ask questions about a decision process like this, we have lots of posters who agree with Cindi's criticisms of the left, the Democrats, the Clintons, whoever, but it is strange to have someone outline all their problems and then announce they're going to work for a party that seems to have most of the same if not more.
But it's not anything really personal I don't think as anyone would get the pushback against most of the opinions she was giving. The personal stuff was because the subject kept getting framed in the context of her personally. But I think most of the regulars were more talking about a Cindi abstract within the same framing of the subject rather than because it was her.
Oh well, I wonder if she would still want to talk to me, we had discussed a tiny bit since I'm the stand-in non-Democrat/Left of the forum. Then I can't resist making my jokes. :doge
My excuse is that I'm defective!
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Or maybe I’m also bork.
Then you won’t mind if I send my pissed underwear selfies to the bork account then?
My Bork persona prefers skid-marked undies photos.
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I only wear black hanro trunks; shit smears don’t photograph well.
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#lockherup!
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I only wear black hanro trunks; shit smears don’t photograph well.
(This is bork. Im too drunk to renember my pssweed)
This relationship is over and your banned onse i get into my account
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What’s your Twitter so I can add you then block you?
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What’s your Twitter so I can add you then block you?
@bobbyrobertspdx
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Already blocked :(
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I wish Cindi the best. On one level I'm more worried because as fucked up this place can be sometimes, it can also be a good support system (especially in regards to depression.) Without that I'm concerned for if/when she does something rash, people won't be able to get to her in time. I sincerely hope her hormones never run out again, based on what almost happened when they ran out previously.
At the same time, if this is how she treats the people who have literally walked her away from the edge a few times, it may be for the best. Good luck, sis.
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I wish Cindi the best. On one level I'm more worried because as fucked up this place can be sometimes, it can also be a good support system (especially in regards to depression.) Without that I'm concerned for if/when she does something rash, people won't be able to get to her in time. I sincerely hope her hormones never run out again, based on what almost happened when they ran out previously.
At the same time, if this is how she treats the people who have literally walked her away from the edge a few times, it may be for the best. Good luck, sis.
She seems to love holding conflicting and contrarian views while also being easily worked up and triggered. It’s an odd combination. At the same time, she appears sincere in her beliefs when you talk to her. I hope she figures herself out. She’s a sweetie at heart.
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Well until this tvc/Bork situation is resolved I’ll just send all my piss play pics, vacuum pumping galleries, vomit play erotica and experimental urethreal/anal electrical tool insertion videos to the Bork account
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Well until this tvc/Bork situation is resolved I’ll just send all my piss play pics, vacuum pumping galleries, vomit play erotica and experimental urethreal/anal electrical tool insertion videos to the Bork account
You can send PMs to more than one account at once. I mean, cover your bases. I may never remember my bork password.
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I guess... I do have a really good vid I just finished; I taped a child sized spongebob squarepants toothbrush to my flaccid penis like a bayonet, turned it on while running a series of electrified metal sounds with increasingly large gauges into my dickhole, the vibration provided by the toothbrush turning the sounds into impromptu tuning forks, after which I collect them into a single mass rolled into duct tape, lubricate the mass, attach it to a mykita and just go to town on my asshole.
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I guess... I do have a really good vid I just finished; I taped a child sized spongebob squarepants toothbrush to my flaccid penis like a bayonet, turned it on while running a series of electrified metal sounds with increasingly large gauges into my dickhole, the vibration provided by the toothbrush turning the sounds into impromptu tuning forks, after which I collect them into a single mass rolled into duct tape, lubricate the mass, attach it to a mykita and just go to town on my asshole.
You’re going to be exactly like me in five years.
I might be able to accelerate that timeline. Hint: e-stim buttplugs are now easily available for less than 100 bucks. This was a fantasy just a year ago.
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I’m actually working on a system right now to recycle my body wastes & ejaculate back into my system using a series of medical grade pumps, tubing and reservoirs. Currently targeting a 90% oral retention for urine and semen, and 50% for anal reabsorption of fecal waste. Not sure how to increase the latter without introducing fixatives/etc into the feces slurry I pump back into my anal cavity. While I’m not wholly opposed to chemical additives to allow for longer absorption periods without it leaking out, I also don’t want to introduce external compounds into the system, from a body safety and aesthetic purity perspective.
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I’m actually working on a system right now to recycle my body wastes & ejaculate back into my system using a series of medical grade pumps, tubing and reservoirs. Currently targeting a 90% oral retention for urine and semen, and 50% for anal reabsorption of fecal waste. Not sure how to increase the latter without introducing fixatives/etc into the feces slurry I pump back into my anal cavity. While I’m not wholly opposed to chemical additives to allow for longer absorption periods without it leaking out, I also don’t want to introduce external compounds into the system, from a body safety and aesthetic purity perspective.
Please ditch your wife and kids and come to TVC/bork. I’d enable you so much, baby.
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Man you guys are really going all out in making your case for supporting the Republican Party.
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Man you guys are really going all out in making your case for supporting the Republican Party.
I do like their “kill the homeless” platform.
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Get a god damn job, Al!
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Listen here, Missy. Computers may be twice as fast as they were in 1973, but your average voter is as drunk and stupid as ever. The only thing that's different is me; I've become bitter, and let's face it, crazy over the years. And once I'm swept into office, I'll sell our children's organs to zoos for meat, and I'll go into people's houses at night and wreck up the place. Muahahaha!
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Listen here, Missy. Computers may be twice as fast as they were in 1973, but your average voter is as drunk and stupid as ever. The only thing that's different is me; I've become bitter, and let's face it, crazy over the years. And once I'm swept into office, I'll sell our children's organs to zoos for meat, and I'll go into people's houses at night and wreck up the place. Muahahaha!
Oh, jesus. Are you another one of my alts? I black out so much that it’s hard to keep track.
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i approve of the idea that we're each just one of Crazy Jane (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Jane)'s personalities
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we've already got mr. nobody running around here
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i approve of the idea that we're each just one of Crazy Jane (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Jane)'s personalities
You have no idea how much this makes me want to suck your/my dick even more. <3 Doom Patrol.
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i actually quite like gerard way's restart of it, and the young animal line in general, even if it's got a bit of an elevated fan fiction feel to it because of how much he adores Morrison's run
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is demi the chief?
spoiler (click to show/hide)
definitely secretly setting us all up for failure while pretending he's doing nothing
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novid was trying to warn us about the psyop, but we wouldn't listen. now cream has taken over, cindi is gone forever and stosta got away clean.
The fuck? Has Cream run Cindi out of the bore?
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No this is just part of the cindi lifecycle
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Curiously, he liked this post...
I’d watch the history channel sometimes for hours you know whenever it came to that and you know nothing else intrigued me more but things about Filipino culture. (http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45255.msg2339680#msg2339680)
Even more curiously, he started posting here shortly before the Neogaf Blowup, and then was apparently a Resetera mod. Makes me think that the Neogaf Blowup was known about in advance and that beseda was busy putting his chess pieces in place beforehand.
This is why some people believe Evilore was honey-potted in order to fell prey and have his kingdom crushed. A Russian plot and totally the opposite of what Trump has been through.
Honey-dicked. If only Evilore weren’t a stupid, undereducated, narcissistic, ugly nerd, and pedophile enabler. He may have been able to have an income source. Unfortunately, he’s sucking dick in a dime-store wig to keep those Neogaf servers running.
Tbh honest as much as that fantasy sounds like classicist euphoria. I think he is prob set, i think he got in early on the coin irrc from #ga chat. Unless he was a greedy jew and held post implosion. All that damage control looked more ego related/trying to save his buisness rather than omg if i dont do something ill be on the streets.
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This is what having exceciorif as a manager would be like
http://www.cc.com/video-clips/ulx9rf/upright-citizens-brigade-bradwick-s-family-restaurant
I'll probably post this again. It just means I was drunk now.
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I like this because of the amazing opening shot combined with this being an official preview from TLC. They open with tha goodz.
https://youtu.be/KKDPFzlAfb
Is this the woman that died in the thumbnail? That's amazing. They should save that one leg. Looks like a perfectly good luffa sponge.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti2bVS40cz0
Disgusting bigotry, has anyone reported this scumbag to the authorities for shouting Sieg Heil?
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https://mobile.twitter.com/bobbyrobertspdx/status/975762098436284416
Too many kiddos just don’t understand the nuance of cinematic masterpieces
:bobby :lucas
Yeah, there was no innuendo at all.
The space animal moaned when milked.
The grimace on Luke's face as he drank it, with the blue milk coloring his beard.
The animal staring at Rey like: "yeah bitch, he drinks one of these eeeeveryday" and Rey looking away, disgusted.
For those who need a reminder:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC4A7y7ONoI
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti2bVS40cz0
Disgusting bigotry, has anyone reported this scumbag to the authorities for shouting Sieg Heil?
Jonathan Pie is amazing. In his Trump video, he basically described Cream.
https://youtu.be/GLG9g7BcjKs
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That dude sure loves dramatic hand gestures, judging by the thumbnails.
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That dude sure loves dramatic hand gestures, judging by the thumbnails.
It's his act - he's like a parody investigative journalist.
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I don't know what's going on but Cindi sent me a message on twitter to never message her again. So I guess I'm not her friend anymore in spite of spending a decade dealing with her shit so best of luck to her, ain't going out of my way for her anymore :yeshrug
Tasty is real bae anyway, and I guess Esch even though he's boring as fuck now and barely posts.
From what I understand, she's pissed off at you because you called her an "oreo" and she was pretty offended that someone she considered to be a long-time friend would say this.
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do you think anybody's ever called someone a hydrox?
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Hydrox cookies came before Oreos
:snob
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In 1908, the creators of the cookie were looking for a name that would convey "purity and goodness."
probably should have taken a second crack at it
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I don't know what's going on but Cindi sent me a message on twitter to never message her again. So I guess I'm not her friend anymore in spite of spending a decade dealing with her shit so best of luck to her, ain't going out of my way for her anymore :yeshrug
Tasty is real bae anyway, and I guess Esch even though he's boring as fuck now and barely posts.
From what I understand, she's pissed off at you because you called her an "oreo" and she was pretty offended that someone she considered to be a long-time friend would say this.
Is there anything that doesn't offend Cindi? I mean she is everything or has been everything
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In 1908, the creators of the cookie were looking for a name that would convey "purity and goodness."
probably should have taken a second crack at it
It sounds like the name of some kind of bland medicine.
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i always thought it sounded like a cleaning product
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That dude sure loves dramatic hand gestures, judging by the thumbnails.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwAioN2mtsA
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But he said my perma wasn't my fault. He said it was back-channel (Trump-style) dealings with Beseda that got me kicked out of paradise. Am I really so toxic as to deserve perms from two sites?
You're just someone that points out blatant hypocrisy when you see it. Which those type of people can't handle.
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All these jokers wringing their hands about congress trying to regulate sex trafficking online, meanwhile I'm trying to argue that congress wouldn't be able to regulate free speech in an effective way.
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Online gambling is a good allegory for it. They attempted to ban it a decade ago, but you could still do it with little risk of getting in trouble. You just had to jump through a few more hoops to do it.
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Clearly this new law is super half-assed and isn't going to stop sex-trafficking, but it's odd how many of the same posters who are worried about government overregulation of sex work are at the same time calling for the government to regulate hate-speech.
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https://www.resetera.com/posts/5914733/
While I obviously don't agree with terrorism I do understand their frustration though.
The country you reside in don't care for the word of your god, those words are not protected by law, in fact the words of blasphemy is protected by law.
The country you reside in have separation of church and state, your religious beliefs mean nothing to them, in fact they decide to ban cultural practices belonging to your beliefs because they consider them barbaric and unsuitable for western life.
It must be difficult being a true believer in a country like France, not too surprising some people will act out in the only way they can.
:kobeyuck
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Clearly this new law is super half-assed and isn't going to stop sex-trafficking, but it's odd how many of the same posters who are worried about government overregulation of sex work are at the same time calling for the government to regulate hate-speech.
That's just the naivete of youth. To them, federal government is all-powerful and capable of substantial change. The answer to their future problems, but also the cause of their current problems. A big daddy figure.
But actual substantial change happens when regular people work together. Things change in America from the bottom-up, not from the top-down.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti2bVS40cz0
Disgusting bigotry, has anyone reported this scumbag to the authorities for shouting Sieg Heil?
Jonathan Pie is amazing. In his Trump video, he basically described Cream.
https://youtu.be/GLG9g7BcjKs
Prove you’re not racist or sexist by supporting trump brehs
Which part was me exactly?
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https://www.resetera.com/posts/5914733/
While I obviously don't agree with terrorism I do understand their frustration though.
The country you reside in don't care for the word of your god, those words are not protected by law, in fact the words of blasphemy is protected by law.
The country you reside in have separation of church and state, your religious beliefs mean nothing to them, in fact they decide to ban cultural practices belonging to your beliefs because they consider them barbaric and unsuitable for western life.
It must be difficult being a true believer in a country like France, not too surprising some people will act out in the only way they can.
:kobeyuck
Guy has a point. Looking at reality through the perspective of a fantatic will always yield weird results. If someone legitimately thinks they're going to heaven and getting tons of chicks for blowing themselves up in a crowd, no wonder they do it.
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also when the user is literally named Fanatic
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I will not have you all slandering my Shosta. I wont stand for it.
So Shosta is above me in your book?
Smdh
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Shosta McModdy
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Prove you’re not racist or sexist by supporting trump brehs
Which part was me exactly?
Wait a minute. Who said the onus is on people to prove they're not racist? If you think someone is racist, surely the onus is on you to prove it?
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You responded to a post that mentioned crimes who was responding to a post discussing rights.
The conversation is about laws, you entered it genius.
it’s almost as if cream is being disingenuous for the purpose of angering people. Pretty sure there’s a name for that.
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Prove you’re not racist or sexist by supporting trump brehs
Which part was me exactly?
Wait a minute. Who said the onus is on people to prove they're not racist? If you think someone is racist, surely the onus is on you to prove it?
Read the memo, guilty until proven innocent is the norm. Thanks Zucc
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Which part was me exactly?
This was one of the parts of the Trump diatribe that made me think of you:
Stop thinking that anyone who disagrees with you is evil or racist or sexist or stupid and talk to them. Persuade them otherwise. Because if you don't, I'll tell you what you get - you get President Trump
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Which part was me exactly?
This was one of the parts of the Trump diatribe that made me think of you:
Stop thinking that anyone who disagrees with you is evil or racist or sexist or stupid and talk to them. Persuade them otherwise. Because if you don't, I'll tell you what you get - you get President Trump
What people don’t seem to understand is that I don’t think anyone who disagrees with me is evil or racist or sexist. I think people that do evil racist and sexist things are evil racist and sexist.
And if you Are so upset about being called racist that you vote for trump to stick it all those meanie liberals then yeah you’re probably racist. It’s always so funny to me how this advice of “ talk to the people you disagree with and don’t insult and attack them” only applies to the left
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You responded to a post that mentioned crimes who was responding to a post discussing rights.
The conversation is about laws, you entered it genius.
it’s almost as if cream is being disingenuous for the purpose of angering people. Pretty sure there’s a name for that.
I wasn’t trying to say the “onus” was on them. I’m just saying that supporting a really outspoken racist and sexist is a really funny thing to do when you’re upset about being called racist and sexist
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And if you Are so upset about being called racist that you vote for trump to stick it all those meanie liberals then yeah you’re probably racist. It’s always so funny to me how this advice of “ talk to the people you disagree with and don’t insult and attacked them” only applies to the left
Who said I was upset? I was just pointing out that the general criticism of the left's behaviour in that video above, pretty much mirrored the beginning of your bore career. Any time you were questioned, your default position was shut it down with an accusation of racism, sexism, transphobia - no matter how polite the person engaging with you was.
What's worse is you still appear incapable of taking on board any criticism at all. Your immediate response to me pointing this out to you is to jump on the tired old blah blah racist republican bandwagon. You literally know next to nothing about the people you are slinging this nonsense at, yet you're making all sorts of political and ideological assumptions and generalisations. Ridiculous.
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I’m just glad I finally got to tell that b off
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And if you Are so upset about being called racist that you vote for trump to stick it all those meanie liberals then yeah you’re probably racist. It’s always so funny to me how this advice of “ talk to the people you disagree with and don’t insult and attacked them” only applies to the left
Who said I was upset? I was just pointing out that the general criticism of the left's behaviour in that video above, pretty much mirrored the beginning of your bore career. Any time you were questioned, your default position was shut it down with an accusation of racism, sexism, transphobia - no matter how polite the person engaging with you was.
What's worse is you still appear incapable of taking on board any criticism at all. Your immediate response to me pointing this out to you is to jump on the tired old blah blah racist republican bandwagon. You literally know next to nothing about the people you are slinging this nonsense at, yet you're making all sorts of political and ideological generalisations. Ridiculous.
Not you upset. This mythical trump voter.
And you continue to not understand that if somebody says something that I think is racist or sexist or trans phobic I’m going to tell them that they are being racist or sexist or transphobic. I don’t say it to “win” anything.
And I have yet to a see a single convincing argument why I shouldn’t think every trump voter is either 1. Very stupid 2. Racist 3. Sexist 4. Willing to ignore all racism and sexism for their own selfish desires which is effectively the same thing, being totally willing to make life worse for millions.
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And you continue to not understand that if somebody says something that I think is racist or sexist or trans phobic I’m going to tell them that they are being racist or sexist or transphobic. I don’t say it to “win” anything.
And I have yet to a see a single convincing argument why I shouldn’t think alevery trump voter is either 1. Very stupid 2. Racist 3. Sexist 4. Willing to ignore all racism and sexism for their own selfish desires which is effectively the same thing, being totally willing to make life worse for millions.
Okay, how about this then? Why not watch the second one of those videos (the Trump one) and tell me what you find objectionable about it.
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And if you Are so upset about being called racist that you vote for trump to stick it all those meanie liberals then yeah you’re probably racist. It’s always so funny to me how this advice of “ talk to the people you disagree with and don’t insult and attacked them” only applies to the left
Who said I was upset? I was just pointing out that the general criticism of the left's behaviour in that video above, pretty much mirrored the beginning of your bore career. Any time you were questioned, your default position was shut it down with an accusation of racism, sexism, transphobia - no matter how polite the person engaging with you was.
https://www.resetera.com/posts/852367/
No Cream is an angel would never intentionally victimize someone.
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There is seriously no way to quarantine Cream into the Cream thread? Like he/she logs on and that is the only thread they can see?
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And you continue to not understand that if somebody says something that I think is racist or sexist or trans phobic I’m going to tell them that they are being racist or sexist or transphobic. I don’t say it to “win” anything.
And I have yet to a see a single convincing argument why I shouldn’t think alevery trump voter is either 1. Very stupid 2. Racist 3. Sexist 4. Willing to ignore all racism and sexism for their own selfish desires which is effectively the same thing, being totally willing to make life worse for millions.
Okay, how about this then? Why not watch the second one of those videos (the Trump one) and tell me what you find objectionable about it.
What do you think this conversation is about? That’s the video I’m referring to
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There is seriously no way to quarantine Cream into the Cream thread? Like he/she logs on and that is the only thread they can see?
Quarantine Cream, Marrec, whoever invited Cream and Dennis to the Cream thread pls.
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Why did Donald Trump get elected?
BECAUSE YOU DESERVE IT :patel BECAUSE YOU DESERVE HAPPINESS :rejoice BECAUSE YOU DESERVE IT :patel BECAUSE YOU DESERVE HAPPINESS :rejoice BECAUSE YOU DESERVE IT :patel
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What do you think this conversation is about? That’s the video I’m referring to
What parts of it did you disagree with?
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And I have yet to a see a single convincing argument why I shouldn’t think every trump voter is either 1. Very stupid 2. Racist 3. Sexist 4. Willing to ignore all racism and sexism for their own selfish desires which is effectively the same thing, being totally willing to make life worse for millions.
Because telling coal miners "I'm bringing your jobs back/keeping your jobs alive so you aren't royally screwed" is somehow racism/sexism. :doge
That bold bit is why nobody takes you and *autistic screeching* seriously and why Trump has the strong possibility of a reelection win if you can't convince these "OMG RACISTS!"/people worried about their livelihood and security to support your progressive causes.
Not every Trump voter is racist/sexist. This is the take-away you need to get drilled or tattooed on your head. Is there elements of that in his base? Yes, but (and this is a huge but. Think Sir Mix-a-lot liking it but!) that's not everyone. Some believed his bullshit about keeping them safe and SURPRISE their healthcare is fucked. These are the people you need to educate instead of "tut-tut, you're a fucking racist racist racist racist raci-- *goes and fixes record player skipping*" crying every-time they mention they voted for him and didn't expect him to pull that bullshit/etc.
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What do you think this conversation is about? That’s the video I’m referring to
What parts of it did you disagree with?
I’ve aleeady said but I guess I can repeat myself.
1. That the secret sauce to the left winning is simply careful debate and respecting our opponents. Somehow I’m supposed to believe that only the left is subject to this requirement while the right is able to win perfectly fine without doing that at all?
2. Not all Trump voters are racist and/or sexist. They sure have a REAL funny way of showing it.
3. The reason trump won is because of you horrible Ess Jay Dubbleyous calling people racist and sexist. If THAT many people are truly so vicious and petty, that in response to being called racist or sexist that they vote in the person who is openly extremely racist and sexist, then guess what, they just proved they were racist and/or sexist.
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And I have yet to a see a single convincing argument why I shouldn’t think every trump voter is either 1. Very stupid 2. Racist 3. Sexist 4. Willing to ignore all racism and sexism for their own selfish desires which is effectively the same thing, being totally willing to make life worse for millions.
Because telling coal miners "I'm bringing your jobs back/keeping your jobs alive so you aren't royally screwed" is somehow racism/sexism. :doge
That bold bit is why nobody takes you and *autistic screeching* seriously and why Trump has the strong possibility of a reelection win if you can't convince these "OMG RACISTS!"/people worried about their livelihood and security to support your progressive causes.
Not every Trump voter is racist/sexist. This is the take-away you need to get drilled or tattooed on your head. Is there elements of that in his base? Yes, but (and this is a huge but. Think Sir Mix-a-lot liking it but!) that's not everyone. Some believed his bullshit about keeping them safe and SURPRISE their healthcare is fucked. These are the people you need to educate instead of "tut-tut, you're a fucking racist racist racist racist raci-- *goes and fixes record player skipping*" crying every-time they mention they voted for him and didn't expect him to pull that bullshit/etc.
And those people are fucking idiots!
He was OPENLY and Unquestionably racist and sexist from MINUTE ONE. Mexicans bring drugs and rape? Grab her by the pussy? Um literally everything he’s ever said and done? You can’t just ignore that stuff and say “ oh I only heard about the coal stuff!” It’s complete bullshit.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/identities/2017/12/15/16781222/trump-racism-economic-anxiety-study
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Someone people only look out for number one.
Like you, when you told a white person offended by a gif making fun of his dancing skills to shut the fuck up.
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Someone people only look out for number one.
Like you, when you told a white person offended by a gif making fun of his dancing skills to shut the fuck up.
If only I voted for Trump, then you guys would think I need to be respected and listened to
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I’ve aleeady said but I guess I can repeat myself.
1. That the secret sauce to the left winning is simply careful debate and respecting our opponents. Somehow I’m supposed to believe that only the left is subject to this requirement while the right is able to win perfectly fine without doing that at all?
2. Not all Trump voters are racist and/or sexist. They sure have a REAL funny way of showing it.
3. The reason trump won is because of you horrible Ess Jay Dubbleyous calling people racist and sexist. If THAT many people are truly so vicious and petty, that in response to being called racist or sexist that they vote in the person who is openly extremely racist and sexist, then guess what, they just proved they were racist and/or sexist.
Okay I get it now. You've misunderstood what was being said.
1 - at no point did he say this was just a fault of the left, but obviously, as the "left"'s candidate lost (and to all intents and purposes, Hilary is quite right wing), the focus was on what went wrong for the left. I don't know where you got the whole "only the left is subject to this requirement" thing from.
2 - There you go accusing people you don't know of being ist again
3 - That's not what he said though. He said that the way to change someone's mind is not to insult them. If you constantly call someone racist and sexist, do you think they're likely to adopt your point of view? Of course not, they're defensive. That's psychology 101.
Does that make a little more sense now?
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And I have yet to a see a single convincing argument why I shouldn’t think every trump voter is either 1. Very stupid 2. Racist 3. Sexist 4. Willing to ignore all racism and sexism for their own selfish desires which is effectively the same thing, being totally willing to make life worse for millions.
Because telling coal miners "I'm bringing your jobs back/keeping your jobs alive so you aren't royally screwed" is somehow racism/sexism. :doge
That bold bit is why nobody takes you and *autistic screeching* seriously and why Trump has the strong possibility of a reelection win if you can't convince these "OMG RACISTS!"/people worried about their livelihood and security to support your progressive causes.
Not every Trump voter is racist/sexist. This is the take-away you need to get drilled or tattooed on your head. Is there elements of that in his base? Yes, but (and this is a huge but. Think Sir Mix-a-lot liking it but!) that's not everyone. Some believed his bullshit about keeping them safe and SURPRISE their healthcare is fucked. These are the people you need to educate instead of "tut-tut, you're a fucking racist racist racist racist raci-- *goes and fixes record player skipping*" crying every-time they mention they voted for him and didn't expect him to pull that bullshit/etc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTACH1eVIaA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMhi06arV20
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I’ve aleeady said but I guess I can repeat myself.
1. That the secret sauce to the left winning is simply careful debate and respecting our opponents. Somehow I’m supposed to believe that only the left is subject to this requirement while the right is able to win perfectly fine without doing that at all?
2. Not all Trump voters are racist and/or sexist. They sure have a REAL funny way of showing it.
3. The reason trump won is because of you horrible Ess Jay Dubbleyous calling people racist and sexist. If THAT many people are truly so vicious and petty, that in response to being called racist or sexist that they vote in the person who is openly extremely racist and sexist, then guess what, they just proved they were racist and/or sexist.
Okay I get it now. You've misunderstood what was being said.
1 - at no point did he say this was just a fault of the left, but obviously, as the "left"'s candidate lost (and to all intents and purposes, Hilary is quite right wing), the focus was on what went wrong for the left. I don't know where you got the whole "only the left is subject to this requirement" thing from.
2 - There you go accusing people you don't know of being ist again
3 - That's not what he said though. He said that the way to change someone's mind is not to insult them. If you constantly call someone racist and sexist, do you think they're likely to adopt your point of view? Of course not, they're defensive. That's psychology 101.
Does that make a little more sense now?
The dude literally kept saying this is the left’s fault over and over again
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The dude literally kept saying this is the left’s fault over and over again
Yes and it is. If the left can't field a candidate capable of beating Donald Fucking Trump, then it's entirely their fault.
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The dude literally kept saying this is the left’s fault over and over again
Yes and it is. If the left can't field a candidate capable of beating Donald Fucking Trump, then it's entirely their fault.
Neither could the right :trumps
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The dude literally kept saying this is the left’s fault over and over again
Yes and it is. If the left can't field a candidate capable of beating Donald Fucking Trump, then it's entirely their fault.
You’re flip flopping. First you say it’s not entirely the left fault and now you’re saying it is entirely the left’s fault.
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The dude literally kept saying this is the left’s fault over and over again
Yes and it is. If the left can't field a candidate capable of beating Donald Fucking Trump, then it's entirely their fault.
You’re flip flopping. First you say it’s not entirely the left fault and now you’re saying it is entirely the left’s fault.
Everything is the lefts fault. Had they not riled up the working classes we'd still have kings, queens, princesses and peace.
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"You're" also "forgetting" another, I feel, very important factor in why Trump won.
He wasn't Hillary Clinton.
And literally only an idiot or someone who is extremely greedy/racist/sexist/homophobic- and or transphobic could possibly think that’s a good reason.
Considering who I’m talking to...
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You’re flip flopping. First you say it’s not entirely the left fault and now you’re saying it is entirely the left’s fault.
Maybe I wasn't clear enough and that's my bad. I'll reiterate what I was trying to say.
At no point did he say this was just a fault of the left
This was in response to your statement that he was accusing the left of careful debate and respect for opponents and not accusing the right of lacking the same skills. I used "fault" in the context of "defect". Ie: Inability to calmly and reasonably debate is not just a problem of the left.
In terms of Trump though, that's absolutely the fault of the left. You failed to put forward a credible candidate for one of the most winnable elections of recent times and doubled down by not providing a compelling reason for non-democrats to vote for him.
So a fault != the fault. There you go!
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Without communism the Germans would've been beaten on two fronts by the Russians, English and French. Thus the US would not enter WW1. Not disturbing the balance of the world.
Without communism Germany post WW2 wouldn't be a place of revolution and riots and thus Hitler wouldn't have risen to power.
Without Hitler the WW2 thing wouldn't have happened. So Truman wouldn't need to scare the soviets by lighting up Japan with a Nuke.
Without Truman being scared by communists the Cold War wouldn't have happened.
Without the cold war, there wouldn't have been Mujaheddin in Afghanistan. Thus Bin Laden wouldn't have been involved with the CIA.
Without Bin Laden as a war lord he'd finish his studies and not do 9/11
Without 9/11 good 'ol Georgie wouldn't have invaded Iraq
Without the invasion of Iraq, no ISIS
Without the cold war, ISIS, Iraq etc. Donald Trump wouldn't have anything to throw at his Republican opponents.
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You’re flip flopping. First you say it’s not entirely the left fault and now you’re saying it is entirely the left’s fault.
Maybe I wasn't clear enough and that's my bad. I'll reiterate what I was trying to say.
At no point did he say this was just a fault of the left
This was in response to your statement that he was accusing the left of careful debate and respect for opponents and not accusing the right of lacking the same skills. I used "fault" in the context of "defect". Ie: Inability to calmly and reasonably debate is not just a problem of the left.
In terms of Trump though, that's absolutely the fault of the left. You failed to put forward a credible candidate for one of the most winnable elections of recent times and doubled down by not providing a compelling reason for non-democrats to vote for him.
So a fault != the fault. There you go!
“ you didn’t give me a good enough reason to not stab myself and everyone in my family, so it’s your fault that I did it and since you told me that I’m stupid for doing it I’m going to do it again!”
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The dude literally kept saying this is the left’s fault over and over again
Yes and it is. If the left can't field a candidate capable of beating Donald Fucking Trump, then it's entirely their fault.
You’re flip flopping. First you say it’s not entirely the left fault and now you’re saying it is entirely the left’s fault.
To be fair he specifically said
at no point did he say this was just a fault of the left
I would think any instructions for who should stop behaving a certain way would apply to whoever is currently behaving that way. If the left are the only people doing it then yeah it would seem the instructions apply only to the left. But you're saying people on the right are doing it too, so why wouldn't those instructions also apply to them?
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The dude literally kept saying this is the left’s fault over and over again
Yes and it is. If the left can't field a candidate capable of beating Donald Fucking Trump, then it's entirely their fault.
You’re flip flopping. First you say it’s not entirely the left fault and now you’re saying it is entirely the left’s fault.
To be fair he specifically said
at no point did he say this was just a fault of the left
I would think any instructions for who should stop behaving a certain way would apply to whoever is currently behaving that way. If the left are the only people doing it then yeah it would seem the instructions apply only to the left. But you're saying people on the right are doing it too, so why wouldn't those instructions also apply to them?
Because the right was able to win everything without following those instructions, and they are currently the side that everyone is saying needs to be respected and listened to even though they have never ever once done that to the other side
So clearly there something else about the right’s method that works. I wonder what it could possibly be??
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are you incapable of not getting into internet slapfights? Is it some pathology you cant control or something :stahp
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are you incapable of not getting into internet slapfights? Is it some pathology you cant control or something :stahp
I obviously just have opinions that are controversial to people on this board. What you’re asking me is to never give my opinions on anything
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The dude literally kept saying this is the left’s fault over and over again
Yes and it is. If the left can't field a candidate capable of beating Donald Fucking Trump, then it's entirely their fault.
You’re flip flopping. First you say it’s not entirely the left fault and now you’re saying it is entirely the left’s fault.
To be fair he specifically said
at no point did he say this was just a fault of the left
I would think any instructions for who should stop behaving a certain way would apply to whoever is currently behaving that way. If the left are the only people doing it then yeah it would seem the instructions apply only to the left. But you're saying people on the right are doing it too, so why wouldn't those instructions also apply to them?
Because the right was able to win everything without following those instructions, and they are currently the side that everyone is saying needs to be respected and listened to even though they have never ever once done that to the other side
So clearly there something else about the right’s method that works. I wonder what it could possibly be??
That's the secret of winning :success
Let me explain it one more time:
Left: Proof to us that you are worthy by passing this purity test and make sure you undersign our 1000's of values that change with each election cycle. I'm not sure if supporting the working classes is enough tbh, how do you feel about animal rights?
Right: Don't vote for the left, really that's all you need to do to join our club.
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You do seem very antagonistic and contrarian in general tbh.
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^ @Cream
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are you incapable of not getting into internet slapfights? Is it some pathology you cant control or something :stahp
I obviously just have opinions that are controversial to people on this board. What you’re asking me is to never give my opinions on anything
Ok, sounds good
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You do seem very antagonistic and contrarian in general tbh.
You guys hate era and almost everything a lot of people there believe. I agree with a lot of it, obviously. I think it stands to reason that you guys would have disagreements with me specifically
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On Era there is really nothing to agree with. Except for
"RESET HTE CLOK new Nintendo DIRECT lol lol"
and
"THIS WAS POSTED IN BAD FAITH!"
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What people don’t seem to understand is that I don’t think anyone who disagrees with me is evil or racist or sexist. I think people that do evil racist and sexist things are evil racist and sexist.
And if you Are so upset about being called racist that you vote for trump to stick it all those meanie liberals then yeah you’re probably racist. It’s always so funny to me how this advice of “ talk to the people you disagree with and don’t insult and attack them” only applies to the left
We're talking specifically about Trump supprters, but there is a pattern I see with some people on the Left to attack people who have genuine fears and call them racist.
Lets tke for instance one of the most controversial actions Trump has done in his presidency. He temporarily banned Muslims from 7 countries. Just to put this in perspective, Chatham House in the UK asked a far harder question than that to the people of 10 European countries. They ask whether they believed all Muslim immigration should be stopped. Not a temporary ban and not limited to 7 countries, all Muslim immigration, permanently. Well, in 8 out of 10 of those countries asked, the majority said yes, they want Muslim immigration to be stopped. I will also mention in one of the countries where it was not a majority (the Uk) only 47% believed all Muslim immigration should be stopped. 47%
So, what does that tell you? Does that mean the majority of Europeans are then racist. This is not necessarily the case. Considering the amount of terrorism, for instance, it is fair to say a lot of people have a genuine fear of the level of Muslim immigration into Europe. It is not just terrorism though, the increase in sexual assaults, and other crimes throughtout Europe has something to do with it. The other thing is, there are people who genuinely feel that Islam may not be compatible with Liberal values. What would it mean for an increasing Muslim population for the future of Europe?
Here's the thing: Shouting people like this down as racist when they have genuine, real fears, is not only intolerant, it is dangerous. In some sense you can see a self-fulfilling prophecy emerge. If the Left make it impossible for people to seriously express their views and opinions on subjects like this, they are only going to push more people to right-wing populism. In some way you have to try and address people's concerns. Failure to do so, will not only show your side as weak and incapable, it will also allow right-wing populists to fill the void the Left has created. The worst possible thing you can do is demonise them. Where else do they have to turn?
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Cream if you lack the empathy to engage with opposing opinions and ideas in good faith don't be surprised when the majority of your Bore interactions are with posters engaging in bad faith.
You try to argue points and when you don't want to address those, you jump to semantics and strawmen.
Grow up. Pls.
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When I was younger I had a take on the internet attitude like that; guess I had the energy for it. I worked 12 hours a day on a computer so having forums to argue on was a nice break once an hour for a few minutes. I posted on TeamXbox back in the days when the average teen/twenty something on the internet said stuff like "being gay is a choice" and whatnot. I was a super-progressive with a desire to change people's minds.
Honestly though you don't seem to want to change people's minds; it's "Cool" these days to just lash out and tell people to fuck off and not REALLY argue.
I spent quite a bit of time expressing my arguments and showing statistics and things that led me to believe a certain way and on this site I was met with hate, misgendering, and total dismissal. I’ve certainly given up here
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I remember that the internet was just for bored people looking for some fun in general.
Ever since everyone and their dog got involved into politics it turned into a big pile of shit.
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You do seem very antagonistic and contrarian in general tbh.
You guys hate era and almost everything a lot of people there believe. I agree with a lot of it, obviously. I think it stands to reason that you guys would have disagreements with me specifically
It's more the way you (and ERA) go about it; everything is super serious theres no middle ground on issues.
Normal people have a bit of a laugh and there's some back and forth about things.
I guess you could say I am tone policing you but its exhausting and only serves to make people not bother engaging.
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Cream if you lack the empathy to engage with opposing opinions and ideas in good faith don't be surprised when the majority of your Bore interactions are with posters engaging in bad faith.
You try to argue points and when you don't want to address those, you jump to semantics and strawmen.
Grow up. Pls.
So once again your argument is that they are completely justified in not having any empathy for me but it’s completely 100% my fault that I don’t have any empathy for them. So we’re just back to the Trump voter thing
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So once again your argument is that they are completely justified in not having any empathy for me but it’s completely 100% my fault that I don’t have any empathy for them. So we’re just back to the Trump voter thing
jfc how do you keep misreading things so badly? It's like you've already decided what someone is saying to you before you've read it.
Rather than you telling me what my argument is, let me explain it to you. My argument is essentially "you reap what you sow". Garbage out, garbage in. Nothing to do with empathy, Trump or whatever else you're trying to introduce - just human nature.
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So once again your argument is that they are completely justified in not having any empathy for me but it’s completely 100% my fault that I don’t have any empathy for them. So we’re just back to the Trump voter thing
jfc how do you keep misreading things so badly? It's like you've already decided what someone is saying to you before you've read it.
Rather than you telling me what my argument is, let me explain it to you. My argument is essentially "you reap what you sow". Garbage out, garbage in. Nothing to do with empathy, Trump or whatever else you're trying to introduce - just human nature.
EXACTLY. And on that I completely agree with you!
The ORIGINAL garbage is RACISM.
But somehow that part gets completely skipped and it’s all liberals fault for getting so upset
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I have no fucking clue how anyone can have empathy on the internet for someone. With most people you might exchange 5, maybe 10 anonymous messages.
Unless they're close friends I don't consider anything on the internet sincere or 'FEELINGS'.
I honestly don't care if people call me a shit turd on the internet or whatever or even threatens to kill me.
I hold all the power, I can just close my browser window. :doge
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https://www.resetera.com/threads/ex-atlanta-hawks-staffer-sues-team-for-discrimination-against-white-employees.31532/
How do you look at a thread like this and *not* think they have something against white people?
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Because the right was able to win everything without following those instructions, and they are currently the side that everyone is saying needs to be respected and listened to even though they have never ever once done that to the other side
So clearly there something else about the right’s method that works. I wonder what it could possibly be??
But when the right loses, and they do lose, every couple of elections like both parties do, aren't they losing for the same reason? Not listening to the ones they keep decrying?
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jesus stop responding to the fake troll
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https://www.resetera.com/threads/ex-atlanta-hawks-staffer-sues-team-for-discrimination-against-white-employees.31532/
How do you look at a thread like this and *not* think they have something against white people?
And 90% of those guys are white themselves :neogaf
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Because the right was able to win everything without following those instructions, and they are currently the side that everyone is saying needs to be respected and listened to even though they have never ever once done that to the other side
So clearly there something else about the right’s method that works. I wonder what it could possibly be??
But when the right loses, and they do lose, every couple of elections like both parties do, aren't they losing for the same reason? Not listening to the ones they keep decrying?
So then why did they win again without ever changing their tactics
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jesus stop responding to the fake troll
It's pointless.
It's like episodes of "My 600 lb Life". You can warn the person, you can reason with them, you can lock up their fridge and cabinets. They are still going to get that food, even though it's killing them and the people around them.
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This was one of the parts of the Trump diatribe that made me think of you:
Stop thinking that anyone who disagrees with you is evil or racist or sexist or stupid and talk to them. Persuade them otherwise. Because if you don't, I'll tell you what you get - you get President Trump
How many percentage points did Trump gain by this? Estimate.
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jesus stop responding to the fake troll
Im not a fucking fake troll.
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This was one of the parts of the Trump diatribe that made me think of you:
Stop thinking that anyone who disagrees with you is evil or racist or sexist or stupid and talk to them. Persuade them otherwise. Because if you don't, I'll tell you what you get - you get President Trump
How many percentage points did Trump gain by this? Estimate.
He was about to take 50 states until Bill Clinton did some robo calls.
This woman is not crazy or mentally ill
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VyOfDQZECc
This is a fine candidate speaking in a natural and relaxed manner
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https://www.resetera.com/posts/5919012/
Shooting black people is white culture
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Because the right was able to win everything without following those instructions, and they are currently the side that everyone is saying needs to be respected and listened to even though they have never ever once done that to the other side
So clearly there something else about the right’s method that works. I wonder what it could possibly be??
But when the right loses, and they do lose, every couple of elections like both parties do, aren't they losing for the same reason? Not listening to the ones they keep decrying?
So then why did they win again without ever changing their tactics
No I'm actually asking, don't they lose because of things like dehumanizing black people and leaving such distaste it drives people to vote for Obama, as one example? Or in general underestimating or not taking issues seriously enough which inevitably turn out to be things that matter enough to people to vote for the Democrat?
Or do you think there's another primary reason why they lose, i.e. the right just didn't shout and hate loud enough that election cycle? Is that it?
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https://www.resetera.com/posts/5919012/
Shooting black people is white culture
What else am I supposed to do on the weekends?
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https://www.resetera.com/posts/5919012/
Shooting black people is white culture
What else am I supposed to do on the weekends?
Shoot asians
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jesus stop responding to the fake troll
Im not a fucking fake troll.
Yeah, you are. Mods can verify your IP dumbass.
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Because the right was able to win everything without following those instructions, and they are currently the side that everyone is saying needs to be respected and listened to even though they have never ever once done that to the other side
So clearly there something else about the right’s method that works. I wonder what it could possibly be??
But when the right loses, and they do lose, every couple of elections like both parties do, aren't they losing for the same reason? Not listening to the ones they keep decrying?
So then why did they win again without ever changing their tactics
No I'm actually asking, don't they lose because of things like dehumanizing black people and leaving such distaste it drives people to vote for Obama, as one example? Or in general underestimating or not taking issues seriously enough which inevitably turn out to be things that matter enough to people to vote for the Democrat?
Or do you think there's another primary reason why they lose, i.e. the right just didn't shout and hate loud enough that election cycle? Is that it?
I would never claim that Hillary was an amazing candidate.
I do absolutely believe that this is a racist country, and if a Democrat wins it’s because they were against all odds able to navigate that incredible racism and convince enough people that they were better than the Republicans that cycle.
What I’m saying is that Hillary Clinton was not able to convince enough people that she is better than being racist.
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jesus stop responding to the fake troll
Im not a fucking fake troll.
Yeah, you are. Mods can verify your IP dumbass.
Okay? What the fuck would verifying my IP mean in this context? I’m not a troll and I’m not fake.
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https://www.resetera.com/posts/5919012/
Shooting black people is white culture
What else am I supposed to do on the weekends?
Shoot asians
Eh, on average they're smaller. I'm not going to put effort into my leisure time. I just want to relax.
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Cream, this may, at least in part, explain why people voted for Trump.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vcn4cnpv6Y
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https://www.resetera.com/posts/5919012/
Shooting black people is white culture
What else am I supposed to do on the weekends?
Shoot asians
Eh, on average they're smaller. I'm not going to put effort into my leisure time. I just want to relax.
That's racist. /s
Also, if the lady can prove discrimination, the employer should be held liable.
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I would never claim that Hillary was an amazing candidate.
I do absolutely believe that this is a racist country, and if a Democrat wins it’s because they were against all odds able to navigate that incredible racism and convince enough people that they were better than the Republicans that cycle.
What I’m saying is that Hillary Clinton was not able to convince enough people that she is better than being racist.
Interestingly enough, a black man was...
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jesus stop responding to the fake troll
Im not a fucking fake troll.
Yeah, you are. Mods can verify your IP dumbass.
Okay? What the fuck would verifying my IP mean in this context? I’m not a troll and I’m not fake.
Do us all a favor and shoot yourself in the face with a Kel-Tec KSG like that other whiny shit. Cover up your blinds with a blue tarp first, don’t want mommy upset at you for staining the walls.
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That's racist.
#BioTruths4Lyfe
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jesus stop responding to the fake troll
Im not a fucking fake troll.
Yeah, you are. Mods can verify your IP dumbass.
Okay? What the fuck would verifying my IP mean in this context? I’m not a troll and I’m not fake.
Do us all a favor and shoot yourself in the face with a Kel-Tec KSG like that other whiny shit. Cover up your blinds with a blue tarp first, don’t want mommy upset at you for staining the walls.
Wow a suicide threat on the Internet. I’m really playing with the big boys now!!
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jesus stop responding to the fake troll
Im not a fucking fake troll.
Yeah, you are. Mods can verify your IP dumbass.
Okay? What the fuck would verifying my IP mean in this context? I’m not a troll and I’m not fake.
Do us all a favor and shoot yourself in the face with a Kel-Tec KSG like that other whiny shit. Cover up your blinds with a blue tarp first, don’t want mommy upset at you for staining the walls.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xwEs0BJ5p_w/hqdefault.jpg)
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jesus stop responding to the fake troll
Im not a fucking fake troll.
Yeah, you are. Mods can verify your IP dumbass.
Okay? What the fuck would verifying my IP mean in this context? I’m not a troll and I’m not fake.
Do us all a favor and shoot yourself in the face with a Kel-Tec KSG like that other whiny shit. Cover up your blinds with a blue tarp first, don’t want mommy upset at you for staining the walls.
Wow a suicide threat on the Internet. I’m really playing with the big boys now!!
You’re garbage and part of the reason I don’t post here anymore.
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jesus stop responding to the fake troll
Im not a fucking fake troll.
Yeah, you are. Mods can verify your IP dumbass.
Okay? What the fuck would verifying my IP mean in this context? I’m not a troll and I’m not fake.
Do us all a favor and shoot yourself in the face with a Kel-Tec KSG like that other whiny shit. Cover up your blinds with a blue tarp first, don’t want mommy upset at you for staining the walls.
Wow a suicide threat on the Internet. I’m really playing with the big boys now!!
You’re garbage and part of the reason I don’t post here anymore.
Thanks Cream for making sure this idiot doesn't post here anymore.
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jesus stop responding to the fake troll
Im not a fucking fake troll.
Yeah, you are. Mods can verify your IP dumbass.
Okay? What the fuck would verifying my IP mean in this context? I’m not a troll and I’m not fake.
Do us all a favor and shoot yourself in the face with a Kel-Tec KSG like that other whiny shit. Cover up your blinds with a blue tarp first, don’t want mommy upset at you for staining the walls.
Wow a suicide threat on the Internet. I’m really playing with the big boys now!!
You’re garbage and part of the reason I don’t post here anymore.
Thank you, sincerely.
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You do seem very antagonistic and contrarian in general tbh.
It's almost like she's a troll snd the people trying to engage her are fucking idiots
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You do seem very antagonistic and contrarian in general tbh.
It's almost like she's a troll snd the people trying to engage her are fucking idiots
I’m not a troll.
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Wow a suicide threat on the Internet. I’m really playing with the big boys now!!
Yeah, you're right. If anything us whites should be the ones to shoot you. Stay true to our cultural heritage.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg3Vw0z850U
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jesus stop responding to the fake troll
Im not a fucking fake troll.
Yeah, you are. Mods can verify your IP dumbass.
Okay? What the fuck would verifying my IP mean in this context? I’m not a troll and I’m not fake.
Do us all a favor and shoot yourself in the face with a Kel-Tec KSG like that other whiny shit. Cover up your blinds with a blue tarp first, don’t want mommy upset at you for staining the walls.
Wow a suicide threat on the Internet. I’m really playing with the big boys now!!
You’re garbage and part of the reason I don’t post here anymore.
Thanks Cream for making sure this idiot doesn't post here anymore.
Says the posters with 108 worthless comments on this board since 2015.
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Have you seen the size of my post count!?
Mom: "That's great honey. Now eat your veggies."
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jesus stop responding to the fake troll
Im not a fucking fake troll.
Yeah, you are. Mods can verify your IP dumbass.
Okay? What the fuck would verifying my IP mean in this context? I’m not a troll and I’m not fake.
Do us all a favor and shoot yourself in the face with a Kel-Tec KSG like that other whiny shit. Cover up your blinds with a blue tarp first, don’t want mommy upset at you for staining the walls.
Wow a suicide threat on the Internet. I’m really playing with the big boys now!!
You’re garbage and part of the reason I don’t post here anymore.
Thanks Cream for making sure this idiot doesn't post here anymore.
Says the posters with 108 worthless comments on this board since 2015.
Oh lawd you got me I didn't post a lot until recently :goty2 someone give me a hug
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It's almost like she's a troll snd the people trying to engage her are fucking idiots
Maybe. I like to engage people with differing opinions though. Seems almost pointless engaging with people who think the same way.
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jesus stop responding to the fake troll
Im not a fucking fake troll.
Yeah, you are. Mods can verify your IP dumbass.
Okay? What the fuck would verifying my IP mean in this context? I’m not a troll and I’m not fake.
Do us all a favor and shoot yourself in the face with a Kel-Tec KSG like that other whiny shit. Cover up your blinds with a blue tarp first, don’t want mommy upset at you for staining the walls.
Wow a suicide threat on the Internet. I’m really playing with the big boys now!!
You’re garbage and part of the reason I don’t post here anymore.
You've posted like five times in the last six months and cream has only been here for like five seconds. No one knows who you are anyway though so who cares
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It's almost like she's a troll snd the people trying to engage her are fucking idiots
Almost like it was admitted on another board. Almost.
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It's almost like she's a troll snd the people trying to engage her are fucking idiots
Almost like it was admitted on another board. Almost.
Almost like it’s already been proven that that’s full of shit and someone is trying to trick you guys into thinking I’m a troll.
Almost like I’m pretty sure you’re the one that was pretending to be me considering you are the one who posted it here and you’re the one who consistently tries to bring up that I’m fake
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Because the right was able to win everything without following those instructions, and they are currently the side that everyone is saying needs to be respected and listened to even though they have never ever once done that to the other side
So clearly there something else about the right’s method that works. I wonder what it could possibly be??
But when the right loses, and they do lose, every couple of elections like both parties do, aren't they losing for the same reason? Not listening to the ones they keep decrying?
So then why did they win again without ever changing their tactics
No I'm actually asking, don't they lose because of things like dehumanizing black people and leaving such distaste it drives people to vote for Obama, as one example? Or in general underestimating or not taking issues seriously enough which inevitably turn out to be things that matter enough to people to vote for the Democrat?
Or do you think there's another primary reason why they lose, i.e. the right just didn't shout and hate loud enough that election cycle? Is that it?
I would never claim that Hillary was an amazing candidate.
I do absolutely believe that this is a racist country, and if a Democrat wins it’s because they were against all odds able to navigate that incredible racism and convince enough people that they were better than the Republicans that cycle.
What I’m saying is that Hillary Clinton was not able to convince enough people that she is better than being racist.
In the original conversation, you said that the left is being told to listen, and not belittle or reduce opponents to a dehumanizing label, but the right is not. And you seem to be implying that the right wins BECAUSE they don't listen, and belittle, and dehumanize. And that if that is a winning strategy, the left should adopt it (and has), and shouldn't stop going down that path like they're being told.
But you also said that the right's tactics don't change. So that means when they lose, they're also doing doing the same stuff. So if that's a losing strategy, then why would the left want to use it? And also if it's a set of tactics that are mean, reductionist and dehumanizing, then who on the left would seriously want to advocate for that? You've said yourself you try not to be that way.
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The day I start litigating post counts and join dates is the day I stop inserting electrified equine speculums into my asshole.
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The day I start litigating post counts and join dates is the day I stop inserting electrified equine speculums into my asshole.
So a few years ago?
Resetera would have probably been applauding the OJ Simpson verdict if they were around back then.
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Because the right was able to win everything without following those instructions, and they are currently the side that everyone is saying needs to be respected and listened to even though they have never ever once done that to the other side
So clearly there something else about the right’s method that works. I wonder what it could possibly be??
But when the right loses, and they do lose, every couple of elections like both parties do, aren't they losing for the same reason? Not listening to the ones they keep decrying?
So then why did they win again without ever changing their tactics
No I'm actually asking, don't they lose because of things like dehumanizing black people and leaving such distaste it drives people to vote for Obama, as one example? Or in general underestimating or not taking issues seriously enough which inevitably turn out to be things that matter enough to people to vote for the Democrat?
Or do you think there's another primary reason why they lose, i.e. the right just didn't shout and hate loud enough that election cycle? Is that it?
I would never claim that Hillary was an amazing candidate.
I do absolutely believe that this is a racist country, and if a Democrat wins it’s because they were against all odds able to navigate that incredible racism and convince enough people that they were better than the Republicans that cycle.
What I’m saying is that Hillary Clinton was not able to convince enough people that she is better than being racist.
In the original conversation, you said that the left is being told to listen, and not belittle or reduce opponents to a dehumanizing label, but the right is not. And you seem to be implying that the right wins BECAUSE they don't listen, and belittle, and dehumanize. And that if that is a winning strategy, the left should (and has) adopted it, and shouldn't stop going down that path like they're being told.
But you also said that the right's tactics don't change. So that means when they lose, they're also doing doing the same stuff. So if that's a losing strategy, then why would the left want to use it? And also if it's a set of tactics that are mean, reductionist and dehumanizing, then who on the left would seriously want to advocate for that? You've said yourself you try not to be that way.
No I was never saying that insulting and belittling your opponent is the tactic to win. I’m saying that racism is such a powerful factor that the fact that they belittle and attack their opponents doesn’t matter to people.
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Almost like it’s already been proven that that’s full of shit and someone is trying to trick you guys into thinking I’m a troll.
Almost like I’m pretty sure you’re the one that was pretending to be me considering you are the one who posted it here and you’re the one who consistently tries to bring up that I’m fake
Cute but wrong. You've been a shitty troll since GAF. You having the same troll account on multiple sites doesn't mean anything.
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Almost like it’s already been proven that that’s full of shit and someone is trying to trick you guys into thinking I’m a troll.
Almost like I’m pretty sure you’re the one that was pretending to be me considering you are the one who posted it here and you’re the one who consistently tries to bring up that I’m fake
Cute but wrong. You've been a shitty troll since GAF. You having the same troll account on multiple sites doesn't mean anything.
I’m not a fucking troll dude
Unless you’re willing to believe that I make up the exact same fake life with literally every person I’ve ever talk to on the Internet in every single private message or Discord or forum that I’ve ever been on And I’ve been lying to hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people that are close to me for years
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I’m not a fucking troll dude
He's a nonbinary bi-goblin you fucking asshole
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Almost like it’s already been proven that that’s full of shit and someone is trying to trick you guys into thinking I’m a troll.
Almost like I’m pretty sure you’re the one that was pretending to be me considering you are the one who posted it here and you’re the one who consistently tries to bring up that I’m fake
Cute but wrong. You've been a shitty troll since GAF. You having the same troll account on multiple sites doesn't mean anything.
I’m not a fucking troll dude
prove it
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Then that just means you are dumb person who cannot stop themselves from responding to people over every percieved slight and fucking up every thread you post in on multiple sites. That's a worse look than just being a troll.
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Almost like it’s already been proven that that’s full of shit and someone is trying to trick you guys into thinking I’m a troll.
Almost like I’m pretty sure you’re the one that was pretending to be me considering you are the one who posted it here and you’re the one who consistently tries to bring up that I’m fake
Cute but wrong. You've been a shitty troll since GAF. You having the same troll account on multiple sites doesn't mean anything.
I’m not a fucking troll dude
prove it
OK how I’m legitimately asking what would prove to you people once and for all that I am not a troll
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Then that just means you are dumb person who cannot stop themselves from responding to people over every percieved slight and fucking up every thread you post in on multiple sites. That's a worse look than just being a troll.
If that’s what you want to think of me then fine. But I’m not a fucking troll
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Almost like it’s already been proven that that’s full of shit and someone is trying to trick you guys into thinking I’m a troll.
Almost like I’m pretty sure you’re the one that was pretending to be me considering you are the one who posted it here and you’re the one who consistently tries to bring up that I’m fake
Cute but wrong. You've been a shitty troll since GAF. You having the same troll account on multiple sites doesn't mean anything.
I’m not a fucking troll dude
prove it
OK how I’m legitimately asking what would prove to you people once and for all that I am not a troll
A picture of you with Evilore
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Not a troll, just a racist cunt :doge
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Cerium
Cerum
Crum
Cre
Crea
Cream
:whoo
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I will not have you all slandering my Shosta. I wont stand for it.
So Shosta is above me in your book?
Smdh
You're my son, i will always love you
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I will not have you all slandering my Shosta. I wont stand for it.
So Shosta is above me in your book?
Smdh
You're my son, i will always love you
*Snaps neck*
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How many percentage points did Trump gain by this? Estimate.
You're asking how many percentage points Trump gained by the left engaging with people rather than slinging ists and phobias like shit at a monkey tea party?
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Remember this gem?
(https://i.imgur.com/VUK2RTT.jpg)
Just ban the alt/troll and be done with it
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Bitch, please. A lot of people here overlap with re ideologically, they're just not idiots about it. You're just choosing to engage with the alt light segment of the board constantly, whereas others just don't give a fuck
@Cream
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Remember this gem?
(https://i.imgur.com/VUK2RTT.jpg)
Just ban the alt/troll and be done with it
In that exact thread I explained what happened. I agreed with the sentiment of what incogneato was saying but then realized she was being disingenuous in her usage of it, which she often does.
I’m NOT a troll. It’s called correcting yourself asshole
Why would you save that?? God some of you are obsessed with me it’s psychotic.
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https://www.resetera.com/posts/5919012/
Shooting black people is white culture
Some real madness when one of the few reasonable posts comes from Lionpride.
What's also hilarious is that these will be the first people who start bitching if someone mentions that RE loves to shit on white people
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Remember this gem?
(https://i.imgur.com/VUK2RTT.jpg)
Just ban the alt/troll and be done with it
Cream you gotta stop doing that. It’s sus af.
Edit nvm thought you did it again lol
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You're asking how many percentage points Trump gained by the left engaging with people rather than slinging ists and phobias like shit at a monkey tea party?
How many percentage points did Trump gain from people who, as you believe, were swayed by the quality of discourse and lack of engagement from the other side?
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Who has more minority points; white women or black men?
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Y'all "cream's a troll" broken records are 100% worse than anything Cream has posted here it's boring af and doesn't achieve anything other than Cream saying "nuh uh"
Get over y'alls selves and let Cream argue with the racists
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Y'all "cream's a troll" broken records are 100% worse than anything Cream has posted here it's boring af and doesn't achieve anything other than Cream saying "nuh uh"
Get over y'alls selves and let Cream argue with the racists
I'm shocked that marrec values Cream's opinion more than that of your average bore poster
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marrec, I'm not mean often but kindly fuck off or grow your own personality that isnt being cream's bottom feeder
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No I was never saying that insulting and belittling your opponent is the tactic to win. I’m saying that racism is such a powerful factor that the fact that they belittle and attack their opponents doesn’t matter to people.
But you did keep saying that the right wins by not following the instructions laid out in the video (the instructions being to listen to your ideological opponents and be respectful). At the very least, you seem to be implying "bullshit, I don't need to do that to win so I'm not going to do it."
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marrec, I'm not mean often but kindly fuck off or grow your own personality that isnt being cream's bottom feeder
You're only mean privately when you pm Bork to complain about Cream I bet
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marrec only exists to pop into threads and agree with the poc/lgbt posters. he's like a white male guilt superhero
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marrec only exists to pop into threads and agree with the poc/lgbt posters. he's like a white guilt superhero
When I'm not doing that I actually cease to exist
If people stopped being racist/sexist/bigoted my consciousness would vanish into the ether
Please, help me help you by not being racist/sexist/bigoted anymore
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How many percentage points did Trump gain from people who, as you believe, were swayed by the quality of discourse and lack of engagement from the other side?
What I actually believe is that Jonathan Pie may be on to something when he stated that you do not sway someone to your way of thinking by insulting them. I'm not sure how you managed to get that I believe people were swayed by the quality of discourse and lack of engagement from the other side.
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God damnit stop making me agree with marrec, you cunts. I'm trying to make him become my forum nemesis, like PD and Cindi or Rufus and etoilet.
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marrec, I'm not mean often but kindly fuck off or grow your own personality that isnt being cream's bottom feeder
You're only mean privately when you pm Bork to complain about Cream I bet
I havent pmed anyone since I pmed Exodust or Cindi in 2012 my man, also if I disliked you I'm the kind of person that would tell you straight.
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registered: september of 2015
total time spent online: 2 days
total posts: 112
:snob
don't engage with this plebeian
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i only remember marrec from the thread about his lady leaving him and him paying for a kid that wasn't his. guess he never did learn to be human
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/girlfriend-of-7-years-broke-up-with-me-i-dont-know-how-to-be-human-now.1060249/
hey look, i'm actually posting something to mock from another forum :doge
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Y'all "cream's a troll" broken records are 100% worse than anything Cream has posted here it's boring af and doesn't achieve anything other than Cream saying "nuh uh"
Get over y'alls selves and let Cream argue with the racists
I can verify that Cream is black/feminine.
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marrec, I'm not mean often but kindly fuck off or grow your own personality that isnt being cream's bottom feeder
(https://abload.de/img/douchesx8sw3.png)
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How many percentage points did Trump gain from people who, as you believe, were swayed by the quality of discourse and lack of engagement from the other side?
What I actually believe is that Jonathan Pie may be on to something when he stated that you do not sway someone to your way of thinking by insulting them. I'm not sure how you managed to get that I believe people were swayed by the quality of discourse and lack of engagement from the other side.
you don't sway people to your side by engaging politely with them either so you may as well enjoy yourself.
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Y'all "cream's a troll" broken records are 100% worse than anything Cream has posted here it's boring af and doesn't achieve anything other than Cream saying "nuh uh"
Get over y'alls selves and let Cream argue with the racists
I can verify that Cream is black/feminine.
Wow dude why couldn't you bring yourself to say female?
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i only remember marrec from the thread about his lady leaving him and him paying for a kid that wasn't his. guess he never did learn to be human
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/girlfriend-of-7-years-broke-up-with-me-i-dont-know-how-to-be-human-now.1060249/
Man, to think that was three years ago, ♫ meeeemmmorieeees ♫
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I havent pmed anyone since I pmed Exodust or Cindi in 2012 my man, also if I disliked you I'm the kind of person that would tell you straight.
:drudge :drudge :drudge
Privileged piece of shit.
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How many percentage points did Trump gain from people who, as you believe, were swayed by the quality of discourse and lack of engagement from the other side?
What I actually believe is that Jonathan Pie may be on to something when he stated that you do not sway someone to your way of thinking by insulting them. I'm not sure how you managed to get that I believe people were swayed by the quality of discourse and lack of engagement from the other side.
you don't sway people to your side by engaging politely with them either so you may as well enjoy yourself.
A guy called coitus telling people to enjoy themselves.
Cats and dogs, living together. Mass hysteria
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God damnit stop making me agree with marrec, you cunts. I'm trying to make him become my forum nemesis, like PD and Cindi or Rufus and etoilet.
Crean's nemesis was a Cindi, you nonce. And she already took her down. Cream is the bizarro Cindi.
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Crean's nemesis was a Cindi, you nonce. And she already took her down. Cream is the bizarro Cindi.
Cream is New Coke. I want muh OG Coke back.
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God damnit stop making me agree with marrec, you cunts. I'm trying to make him become my forum nemesis, like PD and Cindi or Rufus and etoilet.
Crean's nemesis was a Cindi, you nonce. And she already took her down. Cream is the bizarro Cindi.
No you've got it all wrong. PD is the Joker to Cindi's Batman. Cream is Cindi's Bane.
Or maybe Darkseid, if we want to get really esoteric
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Y'all "cream's a troll" broken records are 100% worse than anything Cream has posted here it's boring af and doesn't achieve anything other than Cream saying "nuh uh"
Get over y'alls selves and let Cream argue with the racists
I can verify that Cream is black/feminine.
Wow dude why couldn't you bring yourself to say female?
I wasn’t sure which gender he felt like.
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Jonathan Pie, Spiked, and dipshit liberalism :scust :pacspit
imagine taking that shit seriously :heh
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God damnit stop making me agree with marrec, you cunts. I'm trying to make him become my forum nemesis, like PD and Cindi or Rufus and etoilet.
Crean's nemesis was a Cindi, you nonce. And she already took her down. Cream is the bizarro Cindi.
I see that we had a cultural exchange here :ohyeah
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i only remember marrec from the thread about his lady leaving him and him paying for a kid that wasn't his. guess he never did learn to be human
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/girlfriend-of-7-years-broke-up-with-me-i-dont-know-how-to-be-human-now.1060249/
Man, to think that was three years ago, ♫ meeeemmmorieeees ♫
Did you get back together? Do you still see the kid?
I need to know
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What I actually believe is that Jonathan Pie may be on to something when he stated that you do not sway someone to your way of thinking by insulting them.
Third time's the charm: How significant were Trumps gains due to invective lobbed at his supporters?
And while we're at it: Do you think people who defaulted to the Republican nominee (even if it was Trump) could have been dissuaded by whatever ideal form of debate you imagine?
God damnit stop making me agree with marrec, you cunts. I'm trying to make him become my forum nemesis, like PD and Cindi or Rufus and etoilet.
PD an Cindi don't belong into this comparison. :goty2 Their falling out is actually pretty tragic.
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Oh look, that thread about the white woman claiming descrimination that people were falling all over themselves to be racist in was locked for "running its course"
https://www.resetera.com/posts/5922213/
Seems like "running its course" is just their way to ignore the racism on the site and turn a blind eye.
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i only remember marrec from the thread about his lady leaving him and him paying for a kid that wasn't his. guess he never did learn to be human
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/girlfriend-of-7-years-broke-up-with-me-i-dont-know-how-to-be-human-now.1060249/
Man, to think that was three years ago, ♫ meeeemmmorieeees ♫
Did you get back together? Do you still see the kid?
I need to know
Oh lord no we didn't get back together, that was a toxic af relationship. I'm with a much better woman now.
Ya I still see the kid, I helped raise him from a baby and the only real father he's known, it would be a travesty in that kids life in the only influence for the rest of his development were her.
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Oh look, that thread about the white woman claiming descrimination that people were falling all over themselves to be racist in was locked for "running its course"
https://www.resetera.com/posts/5922213/
Seems like "running its course" is just their way to ignore the racism on the site and turn a blind eye.
"We can't ignore the anti-white sentiment any longer and don't want to ban any of the BCC. Thread locked"
Oh lord no we didn't get back together, that was a toxic af relationship. I'm with a much better woman now.
Ya I still see the kid, I helped raise him from a baby and the only real father he's known, it would be a travesty in that kids life in the only influence for the rest of his development were her.
Good shit. I'm really happy to hear you still see him and are in a better place with a better woman
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Oh look, that thread about the white woman claiming descrimination that people were falling all over themselves to be racist in was locked for "running its course"
https://www.resetera.com/posts/5922213/
Seems like "running its course" is just their way to ignore the racism on the site and turn a blind eye.
lmao this is just transparently biased against difficult subjects
Like, clearly that white lady was probably racist (the "affirmative action" part of her lawsuit makes that clear) but she was also probably discriminated against by her employer.
Instead of letting people hash that out tho, just lock it down, can't allow anything but clear moral victory threads I guess.
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Apparently blatant racism is only worthy of a warning about "inflammatory comments, thread derailing". Cool, cool.
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The day I start litigating post counts and join dates is the day I stop inserting electrified equine speculums into my asshole.
So a few years ago?
Can’t stop, won’t stop, bad boy for life 😎
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Third time's the charm: How significant were Trumps gains due to invective lobbed at his supporters?
They were neither significant or insignificant. They damaged the Democrat bid overall, as the shit slinging from Hilldawg lead to republicans entrenching their positions.
And while we're at it: Do you think people who defaulted to the Republican nominee (even if it was Trump) could have been dissuaded by whatever ideal form of debate you imagine?
Yes. With a candidate that promised a positive message and a willingness to focus on the economic issues that mattered to them. Bernie would have walked it. For most rural Americans, it boiled down to a message of positivity ("Make America great again") vs a message of resignation ("I'm with her" aka I'm not voting for Trump aka at least she's not Trump).
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Ya I still see the kid, I helped raise him from a baby and the only real father he's known, it would be a travesty in that kids life in the only influence for the rest of his development were her.
I'd leave him alone if I were you. Poor kid already has enough to deal with.
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Meh I couldn't give 2 shits about racism against whites. Oh no, they made fun of mayonnaise. How does this shit anger a white person? Has this kind of racism, which is racism, ever actually affected you?
Doesn't matter. Racism is racism is racism, it shouldn't be tolerated ever.
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Jonathan Pie, Spiked, and dipshit liberalism :scust :pacspit
imagine taking that shit seriously :heh
Imagine taking you seriously. :heh
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Meh I couldn't give 2 shits about racism against whites. Oh no, they made fun of mayonnaise. How does this shit anger a white person? Has this kind of racism, which is racism, ever actually affected you?
Doesn't matter. Racism is racism is racism, it shouldn't be tolerated ever.
Yeah that’s totally what you believe ::)
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Meh I couldn't give 2 shits about racism against whites. Oh no, they made fun of mayonnaise. How does this shit anger a white person? Has this kind of racism, which is racism, ever actually affected you?
The yoga/avocado/country music shit is funny
The guy who got warned called white culture 'shooting black people, shooting schools, deporting mexicans' or some shit.
Obama deported a lot of mexicans and black people shoot wayyyyy more black people than white people do (NON RACIST ANTI-DOGPILE GAF/REE DISCLAIMER: and white people shoot more white people) so he's just flat out wrong on both counts
School shootings.. well
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Cream, Resetera is the extreme left version of /r/the_donald. Thoughts?
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Meh I couldn't give 2 shits about racism against whites. Oh no, they made fun of mayonnaise. How does this shit anger a white person? Has this kind of racism, which is racism, ever actually affected you?
Doesn't matter. Racism is racism is racism, it shouldn't be tolerated ever.
Yeah that’s totally what you believe ::)
Show me where I've ever made a racist statement. And me not believing you on crazy shit isn't racism. :lol
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This page number is problematic af
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Jonathan Pie, Spiked, and dipshit liberalism :scust :pacspit
imagine taking that shit seriously :heh
Imagine taking you seriously. :heh
I would hope nobody does :holeup
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Crean's nemesis was a Cindi, you nonce. And she already took her down. Cream is the bizarro Cindi.
Cream is New Coke. I want muh OG Coke back.
Creepy Stalker.
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Cream post if you are not banned. This will be my last correspondence until positive confirmation is established.
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Cream post if you are not banned. This will be my last correspondence until positive confirmation is established.
If Cream is banned, I can’t fight for her today. I drank almost two fifths of rum and a bottle of wine last night and TVC not feel so good
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cream posts every 6.7 mins or so she spends on the bore
she's putting up lebron james numbers
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Cream Defence Force running at 50% efficency.
But wait! Here's Rufus!
Cream Defence Force running at 51% efficency.
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I can't believe y'all got that thread locked again
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it's easier to think cream is a troll because the idea that she's genuine is too depressing for some
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Damnit, was THIS the thread I was supposed to bring racism up in? My bad.
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We need to talk about the real victim in all of this.
Bork. He's had to work more in the last week than in the past two years.
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I wrote a LOT but then it’s locked and I lost the whole post.
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I wrote a LOT but then it’s locked and I lost the whole post.
(https://abload.de/img/douchesx8sw3.png)
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Cream Defence Force running at 50% efficency.
But wait! Here's Rufus!
Cream Defence Force running at 51% efficency.
There, there, Kurti. I'm just idling.
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I wrote a LOT but then it’s locked and I lost the whole post.
:noooo
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https://youtu.be/z36Xadupn5c
Mood
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I wrote a LOT but then it’s locked and I lost the whole post.
We'll take the small victories
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I wrote a LOT but then it’s locked and I lost the whole post.
(https://im-01.gifer.com/I1V.gif)
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I wrote a LOT but then it’s locked and I lost the whole post.
(https://im-01.gifer.com/I1V.gif)
Stufte asked me a question.
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I wrote a LOT but then it’s locked and I lost the whole post.
(https://im-01.gifer.com/I1V.gif)
Stufte asked me a question.
Answer it here then.
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I wrote a LOT but then it’s locked and I lost the whole post.
(https://im-01.gifer.com/I1V.gif)
Stufte asked me a question.
Answer it here then.
I’ll just do the short version cause fuck typing all that again.
I don’t think you are a racist, and I’ve never tried to imply that you are. But you did try to argue with me that racism isn’t that bad in America. And I’m not talking about things like mocking Ebonics or wearing braids. I’m talking about the deep systemic issues running through every single industry and level of society that make it virtually impossible for black people to succeed and progress, as a people, not as individuals. No one should feel like they can’t work hard and be successful. I’ve worked really hard out of adverse conditions, a single teen mom, growing up in Baltimore, to get to where I am.
But the truth is that the deck is stacked way way way higher for minorities than white people, and I’m sorry, but a part of white privilege is not seeing or understanding that, and as a result, it’s really easy to just assume we’re overreacting about all this stuff. But the negative side effect is that you, and many others, continuously downplay this systemic racism that continues to have a demonstrable negative effect.
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I wrote a LOT but then it’s locked and I lost the whole post.
(https://im-01.gifer.com/I1V.gif)
Stufte asked me a question.
Answer it here then.
I’ll just do the short version cause fuck typing all that again.
I don’t think you are a racist, and I’ve never tried to imply that you are. But you did try to argue with me that racism isn’t that bad in America. And I’m not talking about things like mocking Ebonics or wearing braids. I’m talking about the deep systemic issues running through every single industry and level of society that make it virtually impossible for black people to succeed and progress, as a people, not as individuals. No one should feel like they can’t work hard and be successful. I’ve worked really hard out of adverse conditions, a single teen mom, growing up in Baltimore, to get to where I am.
But the truth is that the deck is stacked way way way higher for minorities than white people, and I’m sorry, but a part of white privilege is not seeing or understanding that, and as a result, it’s really easy to just assume we’re overreacting about all this stuff. But the negative side effect is that you, and many others, continuously downplay this systemic racism that continues to have a demonstrable negative effect.
Ah ok, that's what I thought you'd say.
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how do i unsubscribe from this shit thread? :beli
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Cream wrecked Cindi and now he moved on to wreck the Bore family
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Cream is that one cousin in everyones family that fucks up every family reunion with their drunken tirades that turns into fist fights.
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Cream wrecked Cindi
Nah, fampai. We did that ages ago. Shemale was just the straw that broke Cindi's back.
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We're now at a point where there was shit too shitty for the shit thread.
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We're now at a point where there was shit too creamy for the shit thread.
ftfy
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Cream ruins everything. Thanks Cream.
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Is cream himself banned from the other thread? Asking for cream
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Cream ruins everything. Thanks Cream.
Dolla Dolla Bills, ya'll.
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Appreciate the PMs guys, but I'm OK. Sometimes you gotta do the mod thing. Sucks having to ban people over dumb shit. :-\
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I've never appreciated PMS. You sicko.
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Yeah, the data doesn't seem to support that, at all.
We study the sources of racial and ethnic disparities in income using de-identified longitudinal data covering nearly the entire U.S. population from 1989-2015. We document three sets of results. First, the intergenerational persistence of disparities varies substantially across racial groups. For example, Hispanic Americans are moving up significantly in the income distribution across generations because they have relatively high rates of intergenerational income mobility. In contrast, black Americans have substantially lower rates of upward mobility and higher rates of downward mobility than whites, leading to large income disparities that persist across generations. Conditional on parent income, the black-white income gap is driven entirely by large differences in wages and employment rates between black and white men; there are no such differences between black and white women. Second, differences in family characteristics such as parental marital status, education, and wealth explain very little of the black-white income gap conditional on parent income. Differences in ability also do not explain the patterns of intergenerational mobility we document. Third, the black-white gap persists even among boys who grow up in the same neighborhood. Controlling for parental income, black boys have lower incomes in adulthood than white boys in 99% of Census tracts. Both black and white boys have better outcomes in low-poverty areas, but black-white gaps are larger on average for boys who grow up in such neighborhoods. The few areas in which black-white gaps are relatively small tend to be low-poverty neighborhoods with low levels of racial bias among whites and high rates of father presence among blacks. Black males who move to such neighborhoods earlier in childhood earn more and are less likely to be incarcerated. However, fewer than 5% of black children grow up in such environments. These findings suggest that reducing the black-white income gap will require efforts whose impacts cross neighborhood and class lines and increase upward mobility specifically for black men.
The study, based on anonymous earnings and demographic data for virtually all Americans now in their late 30s, debunks a number of other widely held hypotheses about income inequality. Gaps persisted even when black and white boys grew up in families with the same income, similar family structures, similar education levels and even similar levels of accumulated wealth.
The disparities that remain also can’t be explained by differences in cognitive ability, an argument made by people who cite racial gaps in test scores that appear for both black boys and girls. If such inherent differences existed by race, “you’ve got to explain to me why these putative ability differences aren’t handicapping women,” said David Grusky, a Stanford sociologist who has reviewed the research.
A more likely possibility, the authors suggest, is that test scores don’t accurately measure the abilities of black children in the first place.
If this inequality can’t be explained by individual or household traits, much of what matters probably lies outside the home — in surrounding neighborhoods, in the economy and in a society that views black boys differently from white boys, and even from black girls.
“One of the most popular liberal post-racial ideas is the idea that the fundamental problem is class and not race, and clearly this study explodes that idea,” said Ibram Kendi, a professor and director of the Antiracist Research and Policy Center at American University. “But for whatever reason, we’re unwilling to stare racism in the face.”
The authors, including the Stanford economist Raj Chetty and two census researchers, Maggie R. Jones and Sonya R. Porter, tried to identify neighborhoods where poor black boys do well, and as well as whites.
“The problem,” Mr. Chetty said, “is that there are essentially no such neighborhoods in America.”
The few neighborhoods that met this standard were in areas that showed less discrimination in surveys and tests of racial bias. They mostly had low poverty rates. And, intriguingly, these pockets — including parts of the Maryland suburbs of Washington, and corners of Queens and the Bronx — were the places where many lower-income black children had fathers at home. Poor black boys did well in such places, whether their own fathers were present or not.
But don't fret, it knocks down some of the liberal talking points as well. So at least you have something to hang your jaded libertarian hate hat on.
http://www.equality-of-opportunity.org/assets/documents/race_paper.pdf
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/03/19/upshot/race-class-white-and-black-men.html
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You still can't prove Cream exists :hitler
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https://www.resetera.com/posts/5921278/
BANNED!
https://www.resetera.com/posts/5928512/
i can tell you what won't happen
there won't be black supremacists or brown supremacists
Hahaha ok.
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https://www.neogaf.com/threads/revisiting-when-the-left-turns-on-its-own-from-back-in-june-2017-and-healing-neogaf-off-topic-in-2018.1460712/page-18#post-253219043
So I received some very civil and pleasant Twitter messages from moderator ZhugeEX last night, and, checking just now this morning the ban had apparently been changed from "permanent" to "2 weeks."
So, yeah. Fantastic?
For the record, I reached out to the official ERA Twitter account, the ERA subReddit, SweetNicole's personal e-mail, and the Twitter accounts of moderators ZhugeEX, Finale Fireworker and Jonneh.
The only responses I received were from ZhugeEX, who was fantastic and I assume is the one who "fixed" this, and Finale Fireworker, who pointed me to ResetEraStaff@gmail.com, which for some reason only appears in the "Creating an Account" section of the FAQ, so no wonder I missed it completely.
I'll never be taking part in a trans-oriented discussion again. It's simply not worth the risk to stick my neck out even in earnest attempts to learn and empathize.
So...congratulations to them, I guess? They've effectively scared an ally away from being supportive of their community twice over, now. I guess that's the "better world" they want?
Oh, OK. This was a Sweet Nicole joint. Makes sense.
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lmao get jebaited by cream, brehs :neogaf
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:usacry :batman
I was just writing the most pointless carepost and when I hit the preview button I got a notification the thread was locked.
Then my chinese food arrived.
Then I got side-tracked with actual work for a few.
So I guess I'll just paste it here without further editing.
:trumps
Because the right was able to win everything without following those instructions, and they are currently the side that everyone is saying needs to be respected and listened to even though they have never ever once done that to the other side
So clearly there something else about the right’s method that works. I wonder what it could possibly be??
But when the right loses, and they do lose, every couple of elections like both parties do, aren't they losing for the same reason? Not listening to the ones they keep decrying?
So then why did they win again without ever changing their tactics
TL;DR Version 1: I'm a white cis-male. There's no point in reading my #mansplaining #whiteprivilege post.
TL:DR Version 2: The average voter is barely informed and prone to voting from feels or a sense of kinship. That's why parties are more effective than just a list of platforms. I can imagine a first-time voter reading an Assimilate or a Cream post and thinking "I could never vote the same way as this guy"
:donot
The pendulum swings frequently in politics. The Democrats getting hit particularly hard in recent (pre-Trump) elections can be chalked up in some part to just that. Other reasons that aren't entirely new but have featured more prominently since we all had a glimmer of HOPE™ leading up to Obama:
- Because of money in politics.
That's not new, but citizens united has exacerbated it.
- Because of voter id laws in key states.
Vote suppression isn't new, but it's been ramped up in recent years and was key in the presidential election.
- Because people love a good lie.
Obama - Hope™. Lobbyists are outta here! People can keep their same insurance.
Trump - Make America Great Again and we'll have the best jobs and lots of jobs
- Because #THE_MEDIA need clicks and a good hashtag more than ever in a social media age.
For-profit news has always had this issue, but Clinton and the Democrats in general were uninspiring.
Trump was good television. Trump was good internet. Just look at the front page of GAF in 2016/2017. Reset in 2018.
- Because blue-collar workers are worse off even though the "economy" was getting better.
In part due to the further stripping of union rights even under Obama and a blue congress.
It doesn't matter that those things were more in the control of Red legislatures/governors within a state, the immediate impulse is to blame Washington. Wisconsin and Michigan are the big ones I can think of locally, but it may have been the case in other states as well.
- Because the left loves eating their own.
That old saying about Republicans fall in line, Democrats fall in love - which you appear to disregard or think it's imaginary (whether for irony, indifference, or ignorance). This isn't a new thing, but it's been amplified. You see it a lot against progressive whites and white men.
Minorities have dealt and deal with a lot of shit. Same for the LGBTQ crowd. These are things the average white liberal can never fully empathise with but can and should acknowledge. Regardless, the bottom line is that people generally put their immediate wants/needs first. Some level of catering to the individual has to come in play to have a conversation that can benefit the whole. Progressives must find a way to steer the conversation to the left without pushing the people who need to hear the message away.
Vilifying or otherwise disregarding the issues white people as human beings face because of their privilege may win you woke points but it won't win you votes. It's about as effective as a campaign against American/European #FirstWorldPrivilege would be at getting us to forsake our possessions, food, and clean water or getting us to stop demanding oil, clothing, gadgets, or other luxuries produced in Third-World countries.
A lot of the discussion on the left has been toxic and counter-productive. Personally, it doesn't affect what I support - I voted for and donated to Hilary (Bernie in the Michigan primary). I'm donating to Democrats who are coming up in the House race against Fred Upton (R-Michigan). I'm not someone who needs to be convinced by others' outrage or support before casting my vote.
But there are plenty out there who do. Some of the stuff I see posted in progressive groups I'm a part of on Facebook make me roll my eyes. Anyone on the margins or just getting their feet wet in politics could easily be driven away by some of the borderline anti-white / anti-male rhetoric.
It's easy to mock but liberals of all colors embraced the optimism of the #Change and #Hope campaign even with a black candidate running against a Clinton and later a war veteran. It felt, however naive, that for all our differences we were on the same team. That kind of rah'rahing may not mean much to the more politically coherent voter, but if it matters to the unengaged fence-sitters at all then it matters a lot.
Or we can cut the BS and lay the blame where it belongs....
:putin
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OMG guys are you still taking this seriously? :girlaff
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Yeah, the data doesn't seem to support that, at all.
We study the sources of racial and ethnic disparities in income using de-identified longitudinal data covering nearly the entire U.S. population from 1989-2015. We document three sets of results. First, the intergenerational persistence of disparities varies substantially across racial groups. For example, Hispanic Americans are moving up significantly in the income distribution across generations because they have relatively high rates of intergenerational income mobility. In contrast, black Americans have substantially lower rates of upward mobility and higher rates of downward mobility than whites, leading to large income disparities that persist across generations. Conditional on parent income, the black-white income gap is driven entirely by large differences in wages and employment rates between black and white men; there are no such differences between black and white women. Second, differences in family characteristics such as parental marital status, education, and wealth explain very little of the black-white income gap conditional on parent income. Differences in ability also do not explain the patterns of intergenerational mobility we document. Third, the black-white gap persists even among boys who grow up in the same neighborhood. Controlling for parental income, black boys have lower incomes in adulthood than white boys in 99% of Census tracts. Both black and white boys have better outcomes in low-poverty areas, but black-white gaps are larger on average for boys who grow up in such neighborhoods. The few areas in which black-white gaps are relatively small tend to be low-poverty neighborhoods with low levels of racial bias among whites and high rates of father presence among blacks. Black males who move to such neighborhoods earlier in childhood earn more and are less likely to be incarcerated. However, fewer than 5% of black children grow up in such environments. These findings suggest that reducing the black-white income gap will require efforts whose impacts cross neighborhood and class lines and increase upward mobility specifically for black men.
The study, based on anonymous earnings and demographic data for virtually all Americans now in their late 30s, debunks a number of other widely held hypotheses about income inequality. Gaps persisted even when black and white boys grew up in families with the same income, similar family structures, similar education levels and even similar levels of accumulated wealth.
The disparities that remain also can’t be explained by differences in cognitive ability, an argument made by people who cite racial gaps in test scores that appear for both black boys and girls. If such inherent differences existed by race, “you’ve got to explain to me why these putative ability differences aren’t handicapping women,” said David Grusky, a Stanford sociologist who has reviewed the research.
A more likely possibility, the authors suggest, is that test scores don’t accurately measure the abilities of black children in the first place.
If this inequality can’t be explained by individual or household traits, much of what matters probably lies outside the home — in surrounding neighborhoods, in the economy and in a society that views black boys differently from white boys, and even from black girls.
“One of the most popular liberal post-racial ideas is the idea that the fundamental problem is class and not race, and clearly this study explodes that idea,” said Ibram Kendi, a professor and director of the Antiracist Research and Policy Center at American University. “But for whatever reason, we’re unwilling to stare racism in the face.”
The authors, including the Stanford economist Raj Chetty and two census researchers, Maggie R. Jones and Sonya R. Porter, tried to identify neighborhoods where poor black boys do well, and as well as whites.
“The problem,” Mr. Chetty said, “is that there are essentially no such neighborhoods in America.”
The few neighborhoods that met this standard were in areas that showed less discrimination in surveys and tests of racial bias. They mostly had low poverty rates. And, intriguingly, these pockets — including parts of the Maryland suburbs of Washington, and corners of Queens and the Bronx — were the places where many lower-income black children had fathers at home. Poor black boys did well in such places, whether their own fathers were present or not.
But don't fret, it knocks down some of the liberal talking points as well. So at least you have something to hang your jaded libertarian hate hat on.
http://www.equality-of-opportunity.org/assets/documents/race_paper.pdf
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/03/19/upshot/race-class-white-and-black-men.html
Can’t wait for all the usual suspects here to ignore this.
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I actually typed out a response in the previous trash thread only to see it was locked by the time I was done.
:fbm
Back on topic (For some reason Resetra is spazzing out when I try to quote atm)
https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-what-happens-when-white-people-become-a-minority-in-the-us.31543/page-3#post-5926565 (https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-what-happens-when-white-people-become-a-minority-in-the-us.31543/page-3#post-5926565)
(https://image.ibb.co/grGz27/Untitled.png)
"Surprise for the day"? ::) ::)
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Well, it’s a lot of words
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Well, it’s a lot of words
Well understanding the complex reality of racial inequality takes a lot more thought and research than quoting a forum post and going “reeeee” at it.
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Well, it’s a lot of words
Well understanding the complex reality of racial inequality takes a lot more thought and research than quoting a forum post and going “reeeee” at it.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Done. Ignored.
Check out lightning!
(https://img00.deviantart.net/7a40/i/2008/260/d/b/fat_lightning_by_akafa.jpg)
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not fat enough.
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Now?
(http://pre00.deviantart.net/9936/th/pre/f/2014/014/8/6/lightning_farron_by_gain_over-d723zdl.jpg)
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How can you relate this to race or gender?
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She's a strong woman who don't need no man.
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She's a strong woman who don't need no man.
Haha black woman stereotype, so funny.
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How can you relate this to race or gender?
Can we ban this bigot for trying to downplay thin privilege?
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Have you looked at the list of genders?
If two spirit and autigender (The gender that only autistic people understand) are a thing. One for fat people or a fat acceptance one doesn't seem that farfetched to me.
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How can you relate this to race or gender?
DO YOU NOT SEE HER RACE AND GENDER BECAUSE SHES FAT??? :maf
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Yeah, the data doesn't seem to support that, at all.
We study the sources of racial and ethnic disparities in income using de-identified longitudinal data covering nearly the entire U.S. population from 1989-2015. We document three sets of results. First, the intergenerational persistence of disparities varies substantially across racial groups. For example, Hispanic Americans are moving up significantly in the income distribution across generations because they have relatively high rates of intergenerational income mobility. In contrast, black Americans have substantially lower rates of upward mobility and higher rates of downward mobility than whites, leading to large income disparities that persist across generations. Conditional on parent income, the black-white income gap is driven entirely by large differences in wages and employment rates between black and white men; there are no such differences between black and white women. Second, differences in family characteristics such as parental marital status, education, and wealth explain very little of the black-white income gap conditional on parent income. Differences in ability also do not explain the patterns of intergenerational mobility we document. Third, the black-white gap persists even among boys who grow up in the same neighborhood. Controlling for parental income, black boys have lower incomes in adulthood than white boys in 99% of Census tracts. Both black and white boys have better outcomes in low-poverty areas, but black-white gaps are larger on average for boys who grow up in such neighborhoods. The few areas in which black-white gaps are relatively small tend to be low-poverty neighborhoods with low levels of racial bias among whites and high rates of father presence among blacks. Black males who move to such neighborhoods earlier in childhood earn more and are less likely to be incarcerated. However, fewer than 5% of black children grow up in such environments. These findings suggest that reducing the black-white income gap will require efforts whose impacts cross neighborhood and class lines and increase upward mobility specifically for black men.
The study, based on anonymous earnings and demographic data for virtually all Americans now in their late 30s, debunks a number of other widely held hypotheses about income inequality. Gaps persisted even when black and white boys grew up in families with the same income, similar family structures, similar education levels and even similar levels of accumulated wealth.
The disparities that remain also can’t be explained by differences in cognitive ability, an argument made by people who cite racial gaps in test scores that appear for both black boys and girls. If such inherent differences existed by race, “you’ve got to explain to me why these putative ability differences aren’t handicapping women,” said David Grusky, a Stanford sociologist who has reviewed the research.
A more likely possibility, the authors suggest, is that test scores don’t accurately measure the abilities of black children in the first place.
If this inequality can’t be explained by individual or household traits, much of what matters probably lies outside the home — in surrounding neighborhoods, in the economy and in a society that views black boys differently from white boys, and even from black girls.
“One of the most popular liberal post-racial ideas is the idea that the fundamental problem is class and not race, and clearly this study explodes that idea,” said Ibram Kendi, a professor and director of the Antiracist Research and Policy Center at American University. “But for whatever reason, we’re unwilling to stare racism in the face.”
The authors, including the Stanford economist Raj Chetty and two census researchers, Maggie R. Jones and Sonya R. Porter, tried to identify neighborhoods where poor black boys do well, and as well as whites.
“The problem,” Mr. Chetty said, “is that there are essentially no such neighborhoods in America.”
The few neighborhoods that met this standard were in areas that showed less discrimination in surveys and tests of racial bias. They mostly had low poverty rates. And, intriguingly, these pockets — including parts of the Maryland suburbs of Washington, and corners of Queens and the Bronx — were the places where many lower-income black children had fathers at home. Poor black boys did well in such places, whether their own fathers were present or not.
But don't fret, it knocks down some of the liberal talking points as well. So at least you have something to hang your jaded libertarian hate hat on.
http://www.equality-of-opportunity.org/assets/documents/race_paper.pdf
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/03/19/upshot/race-class-white-and-black-men.html
Can’t wait for all the usual suspects here to ignore this.
So black women score lower on their SATs, get into worse colleges and education programs, and..... fair exactly the same as white women in employment and wages? --- and, amazingly, your takeaway is that white supremacy is the overarching reality in America. Because the lower scores of black men can't possibly mean anything if black women are achieving the same as white women despite having worse credentials. Ergo, there must be nefarious reasons for why black men are not achieving parity with white men. Do i have this right?
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Yeah, the data doesn't seem to support that, at all.
We study the sources of racial and ethnic disparities in income using de-identified longitudinal data covering nearly the entire U.S. population from 1989-2015. We document three sets of results. First, the intergenerational persistence of disparities varies substantially across racial groups. For example, Hispanic Americans are moving up significantly in the income distribution across generations because they have relatively high rates of intergenerational income mobility. In contrast, black Americans have substantially lower rates of upward mobility and higher rates of downward mobility than whites, leading to large income disparities that persist across generations. Conditional on parent income, the black-white income gap is driven entirely by large differences in wages and employment rates between black and white men; there are no such differences between black and white women. Second, differences in family characteristics such as parental marital status, education, and wealth explain very little of the black-white income gap conditional on parent income. Differences in ability also do not explain the patterns of intergenerational mobility we document. Third, the black-white gap persists even among boys who grow up in the same neighborhood. Controlling for parental income, black boys have lower incomes in adulthood than white boys in 99% of Census tracts. Both black and white boys have better outcomes in low-poverty areas, but black-white gaps are larger on average for boys who grow up in such neighborhoods. The few areas in which black-white gaps are relatively small tend to be low-poverty neighborhoods with low levels of racial bias among whites and high rates of father presence among blacks. Black males who move to such neighborhoods earlier in childhood earn more and are less likely to be incarcerated. However, fewer than 5% of black children grow up in such environments. These findings suggest that reducing the black-white income gap will require efforts whose impacts cross neighborhood and class lines and increase upward mobility specifically for black men.
The study, based on anonymous earnings and demographic data for virtually all Americans now in their late 30s, debunks a number of other widely held hypotheses about income inequality. Gaps persisted even when black and white boys grew up in families with the same income, similar family structures, similar education levels and even similar levels of accumulated wealth.
The disparities that remain also can’t be explained by differences in cognitive ability, an argument made by people who cite racial gaps in test scores that appear for both black boys and girls. If such inherent differences existed by race, “you’ve got to explain to me why these putative ability differences aren’t handicapping women,” said David Grusky, a Stanford sociologist who has reviewed the research.
A more likely possibility, the authors suggest, is that test scores don’t accurately measure the abilities of black children in the first place.
If this inequality can’t be explained by individual or household traits, much of what matters probably lies outside the home — in surrounding neighborhoods, in the economy and in a society that views black boys differently from white boys, and even from black girls.
“One of the most popular liberal post-racial ideas is the idea that the fundamental problem is class and not race, and clearly this study explodes that idea,” said Ibram Kendi, a professor and director of the Antiracist Research and Policy Center at American University. “But for whatever reason, we’re unwilling to stare racism in the face.”
The authors, including the Stanford economist Raj Chetty and two census researchers, Maggie R. Jones and Sonya R. Porter, tried to identify neighborhoods where poor black boys do well, and as well as whites.
“The problem,” Mr. Chetty said, “is that there are essentially no such neighborhoods in America.”
The few neighborhoods that met this standard were in areas that showed less discrimination in surveys and tests of racial bias. They mostly had low poverty rates. And, intriguingly, these pockets — including parts of the Maryland suburbs of Washington, and corners of Queens and the Bronx — were the places where many lower-income black children had fathers at home. Poor black boys did well in such places, whether their own fathers were present or not.
But don't fret, it knocks down some of the liberal talking points as well. So at least you have something to hang your jaded libertarian hate hat on.
http://www.equality-of-opportunity.org/assets/documents/race_paper.pdf
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/03/19/upshot/race-class-white-and-black-men.html
Can’t wait for all the usual suspects here to ignore this.
So black women score lower on their SATs, get into worse colleges and education programs, and..... fair exactly the same as white women in employment and wages? --- and, amazingly, your takeaway is that white supremacy is the overarching reality in America. Because the lower scores of black men can't possibly mean anything if black women are achieving the same as white women despite having worse credentials. Ergo, there must be nefarious reasons for why black men are not achieving parity with white men. Do i have this right?
Or maybe men overall treat women almost equally shittily? Except we know that’s not true because there is a lot of data o could easily pull that shows black women doing worse than white women.
But it’s very true that certain systemic forms of racism hit black men harder than black women, like being jailed more, shot more, etc.
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Can’t wait for all the usual suspects here to ignore this.
This type of passive-aggressive shitpost is just as obnoxious here as it was on GAF and is on RE :hhh
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She's a strong woman who don't need no man.
Haha black woman stereotype, so funny.
Can't bait those who don't care. :trumps
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Or maybe men overall treat women almost equally shittily? Except we know that’s not true because there is a lot of data o could easily pull that shows black women doing worse than white women.
But it’s very true that certain systemic forms of racism hit black men harder than black women, like being jailed more, shot more, etc.
You quoted this: "... Conditional on parent income, the black-white income gap is driven entirely by large differences in wages and employment rates between black and white men; there are no such differences between black and white women." "The disparities that remain also can’t be explained by differences in cognitive ability, an argument made by people who cite racial gaps in test scores that appear for both black boys and girls. If such inherent differences existed by race, “you’ve got to explain to me why these putative ability differences aren’t handicapping women,” said David Grusky, a Stanford sociologist who has reviewed the research."
And then said something about the usual suspects ignoring this. So I didn't ignore it and wanted clarification -- and then upon clarification, you said the complete opposite thing you quoted.
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Can’t wait for all the usual suspects here to ignore this.
This type of passive-aggressive shitpost is just as obnoxious here as it was on GAF and is on RE :hhh
Almost as obnoxious as being consistently misgendered despite a mod telling people to stop, and being told by another mod to “get over it”
Get over it.
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Or maybe men overall treat women almost equally shittily? Except we know that’s not true because there is a lot of data o could easily pull that shows black women doing worse than white women.
But it’s very true that certain systemic forms of racism hit black men harder than black women, like being jailed more, shot more, etc.
You quoted this: "... Conditional on parent income, the black-white income gap is driven entirely by large differences in wages and employment rates between black and white men; there are no such differences between black and white women." "The disparities that remain also can’t be explained by differences in cognitive ability, an argument made by people who cite racial gaps in test scores that appear for both black boys and girls. If such inherent differences existed by race, “you’ve got to explain to me why these putative ability differences aren’t handicapping women,” said David Grusky, a Stanford sociologist who has reviewed the research."
And then said something about the usual suspects ignoring this. So I didn't ignore it and wanted clarification -- and then upon clarification, you said the complete opposite thing you quoted.
I just did. There are several key areas of systemic racism that hit Black man much harder than black women. Black womenswear are handicapped in other areas, and I think they persevere.
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cream
If you're real then you justify the Social Studies Warrior talk that the prudes here hate. In a way, your sincerity would, to the ass-stablishment of the bore, justify every Assimilate post.
So you can't be real. You'll never win that battle.
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Cream, Resetera is the extreme left version of /r/the_donald. Thoughts?
Our socialism thread doesn't even tolerate tankies so "extreme left" is silly.
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Can modern consoles realistically render the animations and folds of a fat princess or is this a PC Master Race exclusive?
Discuss among yourselves
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We should make KH3 more fat inclusive
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Gettin mad inclusive up in this place
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cream
If you're real then you justify the Social Studies Warrior talk that the prudes here hate. In a way, your sincerity would, to the ass-stablishment of the bore, justify every Assimilate post.
So you can't be real. You'll never win that battle.
Nice hot take, but assimilate is the one that keeps insisting that he can't be real :thinking
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I feel like you didn't understand what was said there.
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I feel like you didn't understand what was said there.
*Just imagine I quoted that Rick and Morty quote here, I can't be arsed to look for it*
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Or maybe men overall treat women almost equally shittily? Except we know that’s not true because there is a lot of data o could easily pull that shows black women doing worse than white women.
But it’s very true that certain systemic forms of racism hit black men harder than black women, like being jailed more, shot more, etc.
You quoted this: "... Conditional on parent income, the black-white income gap is driven entirely by large differences in wages and employment rates between black and white men; there are no such differences between black and white women." "The disparities that remain also can’t be explained by differences in cognitive ability, an argument made by people who cite racial gaps in test scores that appear for both black boys and girls. If such inherent differences existed by race, “you’ve got to explain to me why these putative ability differences aren’t handicapping women,” said David Grusky, a Stanford sociologist who has reviewed the research."
And then said something about the usual suspects ignoring this. So I didn't ignore it and wanted clarification -- and then upon clarification, you said the complete opposite thing you quoted.
I just did. There are several key areas of systemic racism that hit Black man much harder than black women. Black womenswear are handicapped in other areas, and I think they persevere.
These aren't rhetorical questions - I'm genuinely curious: From your perspective, what is it about black men that white people hate? What is it that makes them treat this 6% of the population so poorly, that they build systems and culture their institutions to specifically focus on them. Insofar as black issues are so statistically exceptional - low test scores, homicide rates, and wage differences are standard deviations apart from white and other non-white groups, why have whites devised a society that victimizes them uniquely apart from the rest of the 94% of the population?
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Cream gives Boreans what they've always wanted: Ree/gaf like stupid endless arguments without the fear of getting banned :rejoice
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Until Bork starts menstruating :doge
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:batman
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You know that other motherfuckers here complained about all this shit, right? Other people.
:stahp :crybaby
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Or maybe men overall treat women almost equally shittily? Except we know that’s not true because there is a lot of data o could easily pull that shows black women doing worse than white women.
But it’s very true that certain systemic forms of racism hit black men harder than black women, like being jailed more, shot more, etc.
You quoted this: "... Conditional on parent income, the black-white income gap is driven entirely by large differences in wages and employment rates between black and white men; there are no such differences between black and white women." "The disparities that remain also can’t be explained by differences in cognitive ability, an argument made by people who cite racial gaps in test scores that appear for both black boys and girls. If such inherent differences existed by race, “you’ve got to explain to me why these putative ability differences aren’t handicapping women,” said David Grusky, a Stanford sociologist who has reviewed the research."
And then said something about the usual suspects ignoring this. So I didn't ignore it and wanted clarification -- and then upon clarification, you said the complete opposite thing you quoted.
I just did. There are several key areas of systemic racism that hit Black man much harder than black women. Black womenswear are handicapped in other areas, and I think they persevere.
These aren't rhetorical questions - I'm genuinely curious: From your perspective, what is it about black men that white people hate? What is it that makes them treat this 6% of the population so poorly, that they build systems and culture their institutions to specifically focus on them. Insofar as black issues are so statistically exceptional - low test scores, homicide rates, and wage differences are standard deviations apart from white and other non-white groups, why have whites devised a society that victimizes them uniquely apart from the rest of the 94% of the population?
This country started with centuries of black people being treated as literal objects. Seen as subhuman. When we got freedom, the hatred multiplied tenfold. There is a very very deep rooted culture of seeing black men as just animals. Thugs. Emmitt Till, a child, was beaten and murdered because a white girl accussed him of flirting with her. So much has been done to keep them down. Black Wall Street firebombed. The war on drugs. Now that they’ve been effectively kept down, never given a chance, it’s easy for people to just think they are the problem.
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cream
If you're real then you justify the Social Studies Warrior talk that the prudes here hate. In a way, your sincerity would, to the ass-stablishment of the bore, justify every Assimilate post.
So you can't be real. You'll never win that battle.
You think me being annoying justifies horrible bigotry, racism and transphobia? That’s fucked up.
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Or maybe men overall treat women almost equally shittily? Except we know that’s not true because there is a lot of data o could easily pull that shows black women doing worse than white women.
But it’s very true that certain systemic forms of racism hit black men harder than black women, like being jailed more, shot more, etc.
You quoted this: "... Conditional on parent income, the black-white income gap is driven entirely by large differences in wages and employment rates between black and white men; there are no such differences between black and white women." "The disparities that remain also can’t be explained by differences in cognitive ability, an argument made by people who cite racial gaps in test scores that appear for both black boys and girls. If such inherent differences existed by race, “you’ve got to explain to me why these putative ability differences aren’t handicapping women,” said David Grusky, a Stanford sociologist who has reviewed the research."
And then said something about the usual suspects ignoring this. So I didn't ignore it and wanted clarification -- and then upon clarification, you said the complete opposite thing you quoted.
I just did. There are several key areas of systemic racism that hit Black man much harder than black women. Black womenswear are handicapped in other areas, and I think they persevere.
These aren't rhetorical questions - I'm genuinely curious: From your perspective, what is it about black men that white people hate? What is it that makes them treat this 6% of the population so poorly, that they build systems and culture their institutions to specifically focus on them. Insofar as black issues are so statistically exceptional - low test scores, homicide rates, and wage differences are standard deviations apart from white and other non-white groups, why have whites devised a society that victimizes them uniquely apart from the rest of the 94% of the population?
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/03/19/upshot/race-class-white-and-black-men.html
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"even when people are being nice you call them racist"
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This country started with centuries of black people being treated as literal objects.
It actually started with white slaves that they got from the tower of London. Turns out the modern Jim Crow was started in like the early 1600s.
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Now doing the double reply thing on purpose in an attempt to make it look it was never done by accident when switching alts :heh
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"even when people are being nice you call them racist"
You just said “if you are real, it justifies all the awful things assimiliate says about you and people like you. So you must be fake.” How is that nice?
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Now doing the double reply thing on purpose in an attempt to make it look it was never done by accident when switching alts :heh
I’m on mobile so pasting multiple quotes is annoying. If this were a modern forum it would have multiquote!
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You know that other motherfuckers here complained about all this shit, right? Other people.
:stahp :crybaby
Tsk. Relatively recent arrivals, I take it? The trash thread is for trash, as was evident by the frequent pages-long detours about all manner of random nonsense. Wth made this particular hoopla so unbearable to them?
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So how was anything you said nice, etiolate?
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I was trying to help you out. Trying to show you were real by pointing out ways you could improve your reasoning. Pointing out things you do that make people dismiss you.
Your response was "ur racist" every time.
When I tell you that you being sincere means the anti-Social Studies Warrior posts gain legitimacy so people who do not want to face your type of behavior as real will invest heavily into your being a troll for the mental defense of their worldview.. you say "ur racist".
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I was trying to help you out. Trying to show you were real by pointing out ways you could improve your reasoning. Pointing out things you do that make people dismiss you.
Your response was "ur racist" every time.
When I tell you that you being sincere means the anti-Social Studies Warrior posts gain legitimacy so people who do not want to face your type of behavior as real will invest heavily into your being a troll for the mental defense of their worldview.. you say "ur racist".
I never said YOU. Read what I fucking wrote after reading what YOU wrote.
You said it would justify “every Assimiliate Post”. That motherfucker constantly says openly bigoted, racist and transphobic things.
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cream
If you're real then you justify the Social Studies Warrior talk that the prudes here hate. In a way, your sincerity would, to the ass-stablishment of the bore, justify every Assimilate post.
So you can't be real. You'll never win that battle.
You think me being annoying justifies horrible bigotry, racism and transphobia? That’s fucked up.
I've asked multiple times for you to show how i've been any of those things and yet... crickets.
You said it would justify “every Assimiliate Post”. That motherfucker constantly says openly bigoted, racist and transphobic things.
Prove this bro. Prove it.
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Or maybe men overall treat women almost equally shittily? Except we know that’s not true because there is a lot of data o could easily pull that shows black women doing worse than white women.
But it’s very true that certain systemic forms of racism hit black men harder than black women, like being jailed more, shot more, etc.
You quoted this: "... Conditional on parent income, the black-white income gap is driven entirely by large differences in wages and employment rates between black and white men; there are no such differences between black and white women." "The disparities that remain also can’t be explained by differences in cognitive ability, an argument made by people who cite racial gaps in test scores that appear for both black boys and girls. If such inherent differences existed by race, “you’ve got to explain to me why these putative ability differences aren’t handicapping women,” said David Grusky, a Stanford sociologist who has reviewed the research."
And then said something about the usual suspects ignoring this. So I didn't ignore it and wanted clarification -- and then upon clarification, you said the complete opposite thing you quoted.
I just did. There are several key areas of systemic racism that hit Black man much harder than black women. Black womenswear are handicapped in other areas, and I think they persevere.
These aren't rhetorical questions - I'm genuinely curious: From your perspective, what is it about black men that white people hate? What is it that makes them treat this 6% of the population so poorly, that they build systems and culture their institutions to specifically focus on them. Insofar as black issues are so statistically exceptional - low test scores, homicide rates, and wage differences are standard deviations apart from white and other non-white groups, why have whites devised a society that victimizes them uniquely apart from the rest of the 94% of the population?
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/03/19/upshot/race-class-white-and-black-men.html
The issue with these studies is that they never delineate their methodology in the research itself. They rarely are explicit with education background: For example, I went to a selective top 30 school but got a worthless degree and had a shitty job after college. It wasn't until I went back for more training and got more skills that things improved. A friend of mine went to a high-acceptance rate state school for engineering and did much better than me. I'd say his education background was (and still is) much better than mine and he had better qualifications, but a lot of these studies just look at school ranking or GPA without regard to major, etc. Blacks are over-represented among the low paying college majors and under-represented in STEM: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/education/african-americans-over-represented-among-low-paying-college-majors. If you don't show that you're controlling for the most important variables that matter in income, what's the point?
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Or maybe men overall treat women almost equally shittily? Except we know that’s not true because there is a lot of data o could easily pull that shows black women doing worse than white women.
But it’s very true that certain systemic forms of racism hit black men harder than black women, like being jailed more, shot more, etc.
You quoted this: "... Conditional on parent income, the black-white income gap is driven entirely by large differences in wages and employment rates between black and white men; there are no such differences between black and white women." "The disparities that remain also can’t be explained by differences in cognitive ability, an argument made by people who cite racial gaps in test scores that appear for both black boys and girls. If such inherent differences existed by race, “you’ve got to explain to me why these putative ability differences aren’t handicapping women,” said David Grusky, a Stanford sociologist who has reviewed the research."
And then said something about the usual suspects ignoring this. So I didn't ignore it and wanted clarification -- and then upon clarification, you said the complete opposite thing you quoted.
I just did. There are several key areas of systemic racism that hit Black man much harder than black women. Black womenswear are handicapped in other areas, and I think they persevere.
These aren't rhetorical questions - I'm genuinely curious: From your perspective, what is it about black men that white people hate? What is it that makes them treat this 6% of the population so poorly, that they build systems and culture their institutions to specifically focus on them. Insofar as black issues are so statistically exceptional - low test scores, homicide rates, and wage differences are standard deviations apart from white and other non-white groups, why have whites devised a society that victimizes them uniquely apart from the rest of the 94% of the population?
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/03/19/upshot/race-class-white-and-black-men.html
The issue with these studies is that they never delineate their methodology in the research itself. They rarely are explicit with education background: For example, I went to a selective top 30 school but got a worthless degree and had a shitty job after college. It wasn't until I went back for more training and got more skills that things improved. A friend of mine went to a high-acceptance rate state school for engineering and did much better than me. I'd say his education background was (and still is) much better than mine and he had better qualifications, but a lot of these studies just look at school ranking or GPA without regard to major, etc. Blacks are over-represented among the low paying college majors and under-represented in STEM: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/education/african-americans-over-represented-among-low-paying-college-majors. If you don't show that you're controlling for the most important variables that matter in income, what's the point?
Are you saying that black men might be doing so poorly because they aren’t choosing the right major?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/07/02/the-economys-troubling-double-standard-for-black-men/?utm_term=.bea6f0e0e370
A black man with a BA has the same job opportunities as a white male dropout.
2003 study published in the American Journal of Sociology found that black candidates applying for entry-level jobs in Milwaukee were less likely to be called back for an interview than white candidates with criminal records.
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Or maybe men overall treat women almost equally shittily? Except we know that’s not true because there is a lot of data o could easily pull that shows black women doing worse than white women.
But it’s very true that certain systemic forms of racism hit black men harder than black women, like being jailed more, shot more, etc.
You quoted this: "... Conditional on parent income, the black-white income gap is driven entirely by large differences in wages and employment rates between black and white men; there are no such differences between black and white women." "The disparities that remain also can’t be explained by differences in cognitive ability, an argument made by people who cite racial gaps in test scores that appear for both black boys and girls. If such inherent differences existed by race, “you’ve got to explain to me why these putative ability differences aren’t handicapping women,” said David Grusky, a Stanford sociologist who has reviewed the research."
And then said something about the usual suspects ignoring this. So I didn't ignore it and wanted clarification -- and then upon clarification, you said the complete opposite thing you quoted.
I just did. There are several key areas of systemic racism that hit Black man much harder than black women. Black womenswear are handicapped in other areas, and I think they persevere.
These aren't rhetorical questions - I'm genuinely curious: From your perspective, what is it about black men that white people hate? What is it that makes them treat this 6% of the population so poorly, that they build systems and culture their institutions to specifically focus on them. Insofar as black issues are so statistically exceptional - low test scores, homicide rates, and wage differences are standard deviations apart from white and other non-white groups, why have whites devised a society that victimizes them uniquely apart from the rest of the 94% of the population?
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/03/19/upshot/race-class-white-and-black-men.html
The issue with these studies is that they never delineate their methodology in the research itself. They rarely are explicit with education background: For example, I went to a selective top 30 school but got a worthless degree and had a shitty job after college. It wasn't until I went back for more training and got more skills that things improved. A friend of mine went to a high-acceptance rate state school for engineering and did much better than me. I'd say his education background was (and still is) much better than mine and he had better qualifications, but a lot of these studies just look at school ranking or GPA without regard to major, etc. Blacks are over-represented among the low paying college majors and under-represented in STEM: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/education/african-americans-over-represented-among-low-paying-college-majors. If you don't show that you're controlling for the most important variables that matter in income, what's the point?
Are you saying that black men might be doing so poorly because they aren’t choosing the right major?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/07/02/the-economys-troubling-double-standard-for-black-men/?utm_term=.bea6f0e0e370
A black man with a BA has the same job opportunities as a white male dropout.
2003 study published in the American Journal of Sociology found that black candidates applying for entry-level jobs in Milwaukee were less likely to be called back for an interview than white candidates with criminal records.
This is what I'm talking about. They are not being specific about "education levels". We know that blacks are overrepresented in low-paying majors and under-represented in high-paying ones. But the study you linked just shows comparisons with everyone with a "Bachelor's Degree". I feel like people that devise these studies do this on purpose, because this is the most obtuse, idiotic oversight that any serious sociologist could make for showing income disparity in educational achievement.
"A black man with an associates degree has the same chances -- about 88 percent-- of finding a job as a white high school graduate, according to a recent analysis of employment rates and education for whites and minorities by Young Invincibles, a nonprofit group focusing on the economic issues impacting millennials. Getting a bachelor's degree ups those chances to 93 percent for a black man, the same as a white man who dropped out of college."
Again, are they controlling for the degrees? Who is getting what income with what degree? There are plenty of associates degrees that are garbage, and if blacks are overrepresented in junk degrees, then this is an expected outcome.
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Trying to read more about the Milwaukee criminal record study -- can't find the research paper just yet, just articles giving a cursory run through of it without mentioning the numbers. if you know the sample size, let me know. The results sound pretty damning, but I want to make sure it's not statistical noise (from a difference of like 3 or 4 applicants) than a largescale thing. In that case, that would be fucked.
Edit: found it: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3807133/ Yep, 700 tests at p < .01. You're right, there is racial bias in this case. Thanks for showing me this.
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Trying to read more about the Milwaukee criminal record study -- can't find the research paper just yet, just articles giving a cursory run through of it without mentioning the numbers. if you know the sample size, let me know. The results sound pretty damning, but I want to make sure it's not statistical noise (from a difference of like 3 or 4 applicants) than a largescale thing. In that case, that would be fucked.
Edit: found it: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3807133/ Yep, 700 tests at p < .01. You're right, there is racial bias in this case. Thanks for showing me this.
Thank you, sincerely, for engaging.
I found this:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2015/09/16/racial-disparities-in-college-major-selection-exacerbates-earnings-gap-3/?utm_term=.97a875b9dcb6
There is no singular reason for the racial disparities within majors, but centuries of racial discrimination, uneven budgetary support for K-12 education and poor academic advising and student support contribute to the problem, said Tom Allison, deputy director of policy and research at Young Invincibles, and one of the authors of the study.
At the University of Maryland Baltimore County, chemistry professor William LaCourse has seen his share of students of color with a lot of potential lose interest in science fields when they struggle in a course.
A student comes in from high school with good grades, takes a chemistry or a math course and gets a C. But on the other hand, he takes a sociology or English course and gets an A. Which one do they think they’re better suited for?” said LaCourse, dean of the College of Natural and Mathematical Sciences at UMBC. “We can try to get to them before that C, bring them in over the summer, give them prep course, get them good advising.”
To that end, LaCourse applied for and won an $18 million grant from the National Institutes of Health to increase diversity in biomedical research at UMBC. The program, which started this year, provides extra academic support to high-potential students who are at risk of not completing their STEM degrees.
For at least the last decade, there has been a national focus on steering more students, especially minorities, into STEM majors that play a critical role in the global economy. The nation’s 105 historically black schools have had remarkable success in producing graduates in engineering, science and mathematics, despite limited endowments and institutional resources. For instance, a third of all African American students who earn bachelors degrees in math and statistics attend HBCU. Yet with just 3 percent of the college population, historically black schools can only achieve so much.
Nicole Norfles, of the Council for Opportunity in Education, said that for many minority students, it’s about exposure to these fields and the ability to academically succeed in them.
Many of these students may be coming from high schools without Advanced Placement programs or quality math and science courses, environments that may not encourage them to pursue STEM degrees,” Norfles said.
Although the true worth of a college degree is greater than its economic value, securing a well-paid job has become critical in the age of five-figure student debt. Nearly 80 percent of African Americans borrow to pay for college and take on debt loads that are 15 percent higher than the average student. That kind of financial burden could be difficult to overcome with a low salary.
The study arrives as the Obama administration has revised its College Scorecard Web site to include comprehensive data on how much students earn after leaving school. While the scorecard provides salary estimates by individual college, there is no program level data, which Allison said could be used to better inform policy.
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So for my money, I’d say major choice exacerbates the problem.
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You know that other motherfuckers here complained about all this shit, right? Other people.
:stahp :crybaby
Yeah, but I've kinda come around on Shemale. At least It ran Cindi off once and for all. :yeshrug
Are you saying that black men might be doing so poorly because they aren’t choosing the right major?
Wow, you really do have a tendency to ignore what's said:
The issue with these studies is that they never delineate their methodology in the research itself. They rarely are explicit with education background: For example, I went to a selective top 30 school but got a worthless degree and had a shitty job after college. It wasn't until I went back for more training and got more skills that things improved. A friend of mine went to a high-acceptance rate state school for engineering and did much better than me. I'd say his education background was (and still is) much better than mine and he had better qualifications, but a lot of these studies just look at school ranking or GPA without regard to major, etc. Blacks are over-represented among the low paying college majors and under-represented in STEM: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/education/african-americans-over-represented-among-low-paying-college-majors. If you don't show that you're controlling for the most important variables that matter in income, what's the point?
AKA: They don't do the Scientific Method/They don't describe how they came to those conclusions concretely. They are entirely subjective because these studies don't focus on specific bits. So you should take a gigantic grain of salt on education.
In other words: Maybe the degree choice by black men is the problem. Maybe it's racism (as you seem to think) Maybe it's something else. These results aren't conclusive proof of anything other than biases and "gotcha"s.
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Cream, honest question:
As hard as it is for everyone out there right now in today's economy why do you think anyone should give a fuck? Seriously, why do you feel the absolute need to submit people all over the internet to your bullshit whining?
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Getting ready to be called a racist :P
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Trying to read more about the Milwaukee criminal record study -- can't find the research paper just yet, just articles giving a cursory run through of it without mentioning the numbers. if you know the sample size, let me know. The results sound pretty damning, but I want to make sure it's not statistical noise (from a difference of like 3 or 4 applicants) than a largescale thing. In that case, that would be fucked.
Edit: found it: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3807133/ Yep, 700 tests at p < .01. You're right, there is racial bias in this case. Thanks for showing me this.
Thank you, sincerely, for engaging.
I found this:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2015/09/16/racial-disparities-in-college-major-selection-exacerbates-earnings-gap-3/?utm_term=.97a875b9dcb6
There is no singular reason for the racial disparities within majors, but centuries of racial discrimination, uneven budgetary support for K-12 education and poor academic advising and student support contribute to the problem, said Tom Allison, deputy director of policy and research at Young Invincibles, and one of the authors of the study.
At the University of Maryland Baltimore County, chemistry professor William LaCourse has seen his share of students of color with a lot of potential lose interest in science fields when they struggle in a course.
A student comes in from high school with good grades, takes a chemistry or a math course and gets a C. But on the other hand, he takes a sociology or English course and gets an A. Which one do they think they’re better suited for?” said LaCourse, dean of the College of Natural and Mathematical Sciences at UMBC. “We can try to get to them before that C, bring them in over the summer, give them prep course, get them good advising.”
To that end, LaCourse applied for and won an $18 million grant from the National Institutes of Health to increase diversity in biomedical research at UMBC. The program, which started this year, provides extra academic support to high-potential students who are at risk of not completing their STEM degrees.
For at least the last decade, there has been a national focus on steering more students, especially minorities, into STEM majors that play a critical role in the global economy. The nation’s 105 historically black schools have had remarkable success in producing graduates in engineering, science and mathematics, despite limited endowments and institutional resources. For instance, a third of all African American students who earn bachelors degrees in math and statistics attend HBCU. Yet with just 3 percent of the college population, historically black schools can only achieve so much.
Nicole Norfles, of the Council for Opportunity in Education, said that for many minority students, it’s about exposure to these fields and the ability to academically succeed in them.
Many of these students may be coming from high schools without Advanced Placement programs or quality math and science courses, environments that may not encourage them to pursue STEM degrees,” Norfles said.
Although the true worth of a college degree is greater than its economic value, securing a well-paid job has become critical in the age of five-figure student debt. Nearly 80 percent of African Americans borrow to pay for college and take on debt loads that are 15 percent higher than the average student. That kind of financial burden could be difficult to overcome with a low salary.
The study arrives as the Obama administration has revised its College Scorecard Web site to include comprehensive data on how much students earn after leaving school. While the scorecard provides salary estimates by individual college, there is no program level data, which Allison said could be used to better inform policy.
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So for my money, I’d say major choice exacerbates the problem.
Yes, but the good news is that this identifies a path to improving. Attacking racism is a much more elusive and difficult project than improving graduation rates of competitive degrees.There have been many developing countries that have, maybe to a fault, created initiatives to increase STEM graduation rates that have shown tangible differences in investment and their emerging market score (which is not an easy thing to do, given a variable like globalization brain-drain). And it's a swipe to the racist canard that blacks just aren't endowed with the same talent and "can't do it" like other races -- we haven't even begun to help them in that capacity. And they do need help -- that's not a white supremacist talking, it's a sincere belief that black people are being short-changed by defeatist talk and are short-changing themselves. I know you don't agree, but I really think there is a downside to the narrative of white supremacy because it dissuades the focus away from bottom-up solutions for top-down ones. You're right, there maybe racism and racial bias -- but it isn't hopeless. We can improve the graduation rates in higher-paying degrees, and still acknowledge that more work needs to be done with the way we bias against black people - but it's not as dire as Resetera makes it out to be. It just isn't.
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Did you guys know that if you take a dead fatty to the crematorium to be cremated, they usually have to chop their bodies up into smaller pieces because the burned fat gets everywhere and is too hard to clean up?
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Trying to read more about the Milwaukee criminal record study -- can't find the research paper just yet, just articles giving a cursory run through of it without mentioning the numbers. if you know the sample size, let me know. The results sound pretty damning, but I want to make sure it's not statistical noise (from a difference of like 3 or 4 applicants) than a largescale thing. In that case, that would be fucked.
Edit: found it: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3807133/ Yep, 700 tests at p < .01. You're right, there is racial bias in this case. Thanks for showing me this.
Thank you, sincerely, for engaging.
I found this:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2015/09/16/racial-disparities-in-college-major-selection-exacerbates-earnings-gap-3/?utm_term=.97a875b9dcb6
There is no singular reason for the racial disparities within majors, but centuries of racial discrimination, uneven budgetary support for K-12 education and poor academic advising and student support contribute to the problem, said Tom Allison, deputy director of policy and research at Young Invincibles, and one of the authors of the study.
At the University of Maryland Baltimore County, chemistry professor William LaCourse has seen his share of students of color with a lot of potential lose interest in science fields when they struggle in a course.
A student comes in from high school with good grades, takes a chemistry or a math course and gets a C. But on the other hand, he takes a sociology or English course and gets an A. Which one do they think they’re better suited for?” said LaCourse, dean of the College of Natural and Mathematical Sciences at UMBC. “We can try to get to them before that C, bring them in over the summer, give them prep course, get them good advising.”
To that end, LaCourse applied for and won an $18 million grant from the National Institutes of Health to increase diversity in biomedical research at UMBC. The program, which started this year, provides extra academic support to high-potential students who are at risk of not completing their STEM degrees.
For at least the last decade, there has been a national focus on steering more students, especially minorities, into STEM majors that play a critical role in the global economy. The nation’s 105 historically black schools have had remarkable success in producing graduates in engineering, science and mathematics, despite limited endowments and institutional resources. For instance, a third of all African American students who earn bachelors degrees in math and statistics attend HBCU. Yet with just 3 percent of the college population, historically black schools can only achieve so much.
Nicole Norfles, of the Council for Opportunity in Education, said that for many minority students, it’s about exposure to these fields and the ability to academically succeed in them.
Many of these students may be coming from high schools without Advanced Placement programs or quality math and science courses, environments that may not encourage them to pursue STEM degrees,” Norfles said.
Although the true worth of a college degree is greater than its economic value, securing a well-paid job has become critical in the age of five-figure student debt. Nearly 80 percent of African Americans borrow to pay for college and take on debt loads that are 15 percent higher than the average student. That kind of financial burden could be difficult to overcome with a low salary.
The study arrives as the Obama administration has revised its College Scorecard Web site to include comprehensive data on how much students earn after leaving school. While the scorecard provides salary estimates by individual college, there is no program level data, which Allison said could be used to better inform policy.
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So for my money, I’d say major choice exacerbates the problem.
Yes, but the good news is that this identifies a path to improving. Attacking racism is a much more elusive and difficult project than improving graduation rates of competitive degrees.There have been many developing countries that have, maybe to a fault, created initiatives to increase STEM graduation rates that have shown tangible differences in investment and their emerging market score (which is not an easy thing to do, given a variable like globalization brain-drain). And it's a swipe to the racist canard that blacks just aren't endowed with the same talent and "can't do it" like other races -- we haven't even begun to help them in that capacity. And they do need help -- that's not a white supremacist talking, it's a sincere belief that black people are being short-changed by defeatist talk and are short-changing themselves. I know you don't agree, but I really think there is a downside to the narrative of white supremacy because it dissuades the focus away from bottom-up issues for top-down ones. You're right, there is racism and racial bias -- but it isn't hopeless. We can improve the graduation rates in higher-paying degrees, and still acknowledge that more work needs to be done with the way we bias against black people - but it's not as dire as Resetera makes it out to be. It just isn't.
Okay, I hear you.
But the problem, I feel, is that people aren’t devoting attention to solving those tangible problems BECAUSE of the bias. You’re saying that if black people stopped “short changing themselves”, then things might get better. Ok, but how can black boys be expected to rise when they aren’t given any support? The cities flooded with crime, drugs, overly arrested, incarcerated and shot, no money given to their schools... not to mention a lack of representation, seeing people like themselves having those careers in media. To a lot of these boys, the only way they see out is rapping or playing a sport. I don’t know where these problems can come from besides racial bias.
What I’m saying is how do you even begin to enact so many tangible solutions with so much already stacked against the people in these communities? It’s not like these problems and their solutions are secrets right? At the end of the day, regardless of minutae, the solution is simply “a lot more care, attention and money put into black communities”. Yet it’s not happening. Why?
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You know that other motherfuckers here complained about all this shit, right? Other people.
:stahp :crybaby
Yeah, but I've kinda come around on Shemale. At least It ran Cindi off once and for all. :yeshrug
Are you saying that black men might be doing so poorly because they aren’t choosing the right major?
Wow, you really do have a tendency to ignore what's said:
The issue with these studies is that they never delineate their methodology in the research itself. They rarely are explicit with education background: For example, I went to a selective top 30 school but got a worthless degree and had a shitty job after college. It wasn't until I went back for more training and got more skills that things improved. A friend of mine went to a high-acceptance rate state school for engineering and did much better than me. I'd say his education background was (and still is) much better than mine and he had better qualifications, but a lot of these studies just look at school ranking or GPA without regard to major, etc. Blacks are over-represented among the low paying college majors and under-represented in STEM: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/education/african-americans-over-represented-among-low-paying-college-majors. If you don't show that you're controlling for the most important variables that matter in income, what's the point?
AKA: They don't do the Scientific Method/They don't describe how they came to those conclusions concretely. They are entirely subjective because these studies don't focus on specific bits. So you should take a gigantic grain of salt on education.
In other words: Maybe the degree choice by black men is the problem. Maybe it's racism (as you seem to think) Maybe it's something else. These results aren't conclusive proof of anything other than biases and "gotcha"s.
Also, why do we just assume that an associate's degree is of lesser value than a bachelor's degree? I can think of 6 or 7 associate's degrees off the top of my head that pay more than 6 or 7 bachelor's degrees. In a population of people that study STEM at 1/8th the rate as another population, is it that unlikely that the former population is gravitating towards the less-valuable degrees. This doesn't discount racial biases, but we *know* the problems involve college major: we should focus on improving that instead of focusing on the white supremacist ghost that never seems to stop haunting America. I know, I would be lambasted for saying "stop focusing on white supremacy" because it sounds like a privileged, insensitive thing, but when you have a limited amount of resources and time, you need to prioritize.
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You need achievable goals.
It's difficult to measure hiring preference because all studies assume those that hire make right/good choices by default and group X is the one exception. I believe that hiring practices are a bit random, full of superstitions and not really held up to much of a standard. Hiring and upwards movement has bias within it, which I imagine some racial bias exists, but I am not sure how much.
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You know that other motherfuckers here complained about all this shit, right? Other people.
:stahp :crybaby
Yeah, but I've kinda come around on Shemale. At least It ran Cindi off once and for all. :yeshrug
Are you saying that black men might be doing so poorly because they aren’t choosing the right major?
Wow, you really do have a tendency to ignore what's said:
The issue with these studies is that they never delineate their methodology in the research itself. They rarely are explicit with education background: For example, I went to a selective top 30 school but got a worthless degree and had a shitty job after college. It wasn't until I went back for more training and got more skills that things improved. A friend of mine went to a high-acceptance rate state school for engineering and did much better than me. I'd say his education background was (and still is) much better than mine and he had better qualifications, but a lot of these studies just look at school ranking or GPA without regard to major, etc. Blacks are over-represented among the low paying college majors and under-represented in STEM: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/education/african-americans-over-represented-among-low-paying-college-majors. If you don't show that you're controlling for the most important variables that matter in income, what's the point?
AKA: They don't do the Scientific Method/They don't describe how they came to those conclusions concretely. They are entirely subjective because these studies don't focus on specific bits. So you should take a gigantic grain of salt on education.
In other words: Maybe the degree choice by black men is the problem. Maybe it's racism (as you seem to think) Maybe it's something else. These results aren't conclusive proof of anything other than biases and "gotcha"s.
Also, why do we just assume that an associate's degree is of lesser value than a bachelor's degree? I can think of 6 or 7 associate's degrees off the top of my head that pay more than 6 or 7 bachelor's degrees. In a population of people that study STEM at 1/8th the rate as another population, is it that unlikely that the former population is gravitating towards the less-valuable degrees. This doesn't discount racial biases, but we *know* the problems involve college major: we should focus on improving that instead of focusing on the white supremacist ghost that never seems to stop haunting America. I know, I would be lambasted for saying "stop focusing on white supremacy" because it sounds like a privileged, insensitive thing, but when you have a limited amount of resources and time, you need to prioritize.
It’s not like every organization dedicated to improving upward mobility for black Americans is doing nothing but screaming “racism!” Right? Even MLK spent a lot of his time focusing on class and education. There are groups pushing for these things. They do have tangible goals!
But I really do believe that politicians have no reason to devote resources to the black communities when they feel those communities provide nothing but crime and drugs.
How do you convince people to devote resources to the communities when they have never done it before and don’t want to?
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This also ignores things like private prisons, gun sales...
How do you explain black people getting arrested and jailed for weed offenses four times as often as white people despite the fact that they use the drugs at the same rates, if not racism?
There are many powerful people in America who are literally incentivized and benefit from the American people believing there is a horrible awful, crime-ridden community.
People who benefit from black people doing WORSE. Why would they give that up?
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So at this point, is this abortion of a thread essentially a less white version of the reeee BCT?
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Here is a very long seminal article, A Case For Reperations, by Ta-Nehesi Coates.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations/361631/
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Cream can you do something useful and ask MazeHaze to register here please?
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Or maybe men overall treat women almost equally shittily? Except we know that’s not true because there is a lot of data o could easily pull that shows black women doing worse than white women.
But it’s very true that certain systemic forms of racism hit black men harder than black women, like being jailed more, shot more, etc.
You quoted this: "... Conditional on parent income, the black-white income gap is driven entirely by large differences in wages and employment rates between black and white men; there are no such differences between black and white women." "The disparities that remain also can’t be explained by differences in cognitive ability, an argument made by people who cite racial gaps in test scores that appear for both black boys and girls. If such inherent differences existed by race, “you’ve got to explain to me why these putative ability differences aren’t handicapping women,” said David Grusky, a Stanford sociologist who has reviewed the research."
And then said something about the usual suspects ignoring this. So I didn't ignore it and wanted clarification -- and then upon clarification, you said the complete opposite thing you quoted.
I just did. There are several key areas of systemic racism that hit Black man much harder than black women. Black womenswear are handicapped in other areas, and I think they persevere.
These aren't rhetorical questions - I'm genuinely curious: From your perspective, what is it about black men that white people hate? What is it that makes them treat this 6% of the population so poorly, that they build systems and culture their institutions to specifically focus on them. Insofar as black issues are so statistically exceptional - low test scores, homicide rates, and wage differences are standard deviations apart from white and other non-white groups, why have whites devised a society that victimizes them uniquely apart from the rest of the 94% of the population?
This country started with centuries of black people being treated as literal objects. Seen as subhuman. When we got freedom, the hatred multiplied tenfold. There is a very very deep rooted culture of seeing black men as just animals. Thugs. Emmitt Till, a child, was beaten and murdered because a white girl accussed him of flirting with her. So much has been done to keep them down. Black Wall Street firebombed. The war on drugs. Now that they’ve been effectively kept down, never given a chance, it’s easy for people to just think they are the problem.
No your country started with a genocide on the Indians. Who were mis-labeled as a race because people sucked at reading maps. Get your facts straight.
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Or maybe men overall treat women almost equally shittily? Except we know that’s not true because there is a lot of data o could easily pull that shows black women doing worse than white women.
But it’s very true that certain systemic forms of racism hit black men harder than black women, like being jailed more, shot more, etc.
You quoted this: "... Conditional on parent income, the black-white income gap is driven entirely by large differences in wages and employment rates between black and white men; there are no such differences between black and white women." "The disparities that remain also can’t be explained by differences in cognitive ability, an argument made by people who cite racial gaps in test scores that appear for both black boys and girls. If such inherent differences existed by race, “you’ve got to explain to me why these putative ability differences aren’t handicapping women,” said David Grusky, a Stanford sociologist who has reviewed the research."
And then said something about the usual suspects ignoring this. So I didn't ignore it and wanted clarification -- and then upon clarification, you said the complete opposite thing you quoted.
I just did. There are several key areas of systemic racism that hit Black man much harder than black women. Black womenswear are handicapped in other areas, and I think they persevere.
These aren't rhetorical questions - I'm genuinely curious: From your perspective, what is it about black men that white people hate? What is it that makes them treat this 6% of the population so poorly, that they build systems and culture their institutions to specifically focus on them. Insofar as black issues are so statistically exceptional - low test scores, homicide rates, and wage differences are standard deviations apart from white and other non-white groups, why have whites devised a society that victimizes them uniquely apart from the rest of the 94% of the population?
This country started with centuries of black people being treated as literal objects. Seen as subhuman. When we got freedom, the hatred multiplied tenfold. There is a very very deep rooted culture of seeing black men as just animals. Thugs. Emmitt Till, a child, was beaten and murdered because a white girl accussed him of flirting with her. So much has been done to keep them down. Black Wall Street firebombed. The war on drugs. Now that they’ve been effectively kept down, never given a chance, it’s easy for people to just think they are the problem.
No your country started with a genocide on the Indians. Who were mis-labeled as a race because people sucked at reading maps. Get your facts straight.
That doesn’t contradict anything I said.
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Or maybe men overall treat women almost equally shittily? Except we know that’s not true because there is a lot of data o could easily pull that shows black women doing worse than white women.
But it’s very true that certain systemic forms of racism hit black men harder than black women, like being jailed more, shot more, etc.
You quoted this: "... Conditional on parent income, the black-white income gap is driven entirely by large differences in wages and employment rates between black and white men; there are no such differences between black and white women." "The disparities that remain also can’t be explained by differences in cognitive ability, an argument made by people who cite racial gaps in test scores that appear for both black boys and girls. If such inherent differences existed by race, “you’ve got to explain to me why these putative ability differences aren’t handicapping women,” said David Grusky, a Stanford sociologist who has reviewed the research."
And then said something about the usual suspects ignoring this. So I didn't ignore it and wanted clarification -- and then upon clarification, you said the complete opposite thing you quoted.
I just did. There are several key areas of systemic racism that hit Black man much harder than black women. Black womenswear are handicapped in other areas, and I think they persevere.
These aren't rhetorical questions - I'm genuinely curious: From your perspective, what is it about black men that white people hate? What is it that makes them treat this 6% of the population so poorly, that they build systems and culture their institutions to specifically focus on them. Insofar as black issues are so statistically exceptional - low test scores, homicide rates, and wage differences are standard deviations apart from white and other non-white groups, why have whites devised a society that victimizes them uniquely apart from the rest of the 94% of the population?
This country started with centuries of black people being treated as literal objects. Seen as subhuman. When we got freedom, the hatred multiplied tenfold. There is a very very deep rooted culture of seeing black men as just animals. Thugs. Emmitt Till, a child, was beaten and murdered because a white girl accussed him of flirting with her. So much has been done to keep them down. Black Wall Street firebombed. The war on drugs. Now that they’ve been effectively kept down, never given a chance, it’s easy for people to just think they are the problem.
No your country started with a genocide on the Indians. Who were mis-labeled as a race because people sucked at reading maps. Get your facts straight.
That doesn’t contradict anything I said.
It contradicts your first sentence:
This country started with centuries of black people being treated as literal objects.
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Because *white* people suck at reading maps. Have you ever had a (white) woman as your navigator in the car? Yeah.
Anyway, the Indians would still be alive if the Wakandans had got to America first.
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Because *white* people suck at reading maps. Have you ever had a (white) woman as your navigator in the car? Yeah.
Anyway, the Indians would still be alive if the Wakandans had got to America first.
Are hispanics white though? It was Columbus who went there first and thought he had landed in India.
Although before him apparently the Vikings reached America too. Why is there no alternative history TV series of VIKING AMERICA. Would be amazing.
Call me Netflix. :)
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I'll read it, but it's gonna take me awhile because I'm in between things atm. And I don't know the answer to most of your questions, Cream. I kept trying to write replies, but ultimately it didn't lead anywhere with any insight. This isn't easy stuff.
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Or maybe men overall treat women almost equally shittily? Except we know that’s not true because there is a lot of data o could easily pull that shows black women doing worse than white women.
But it’s very true that certain systemic forms of racism hit black men harder than black women, like being jailed more, shot more, etc.
You quoted this: "... Conditional on parent income, the black-white income gap is driven entirely by large differences in wages and employment rates between black and white men; there are no such differences between black and white women." "The disparities that remain also can’t be explained by differences in cognitive ability, an argument made by people who cite racial gaps in test scores that appear for both black boys and girls. If such inherent differences existed by race, “you’ve got to explain to me why these putative ability differences aren’t handicapping women,” said David Grusky, a Stanford sociologist who has reviewed the research."
And then said something about the usual suspects ignoring this. So I didn't ignore it and wanted clarification -- and then upon clarification, you said the complete opposite thing you quoted.
I just did. There are several key areas of systemic racism that hit Black man much harder than black women. Black womenswear are handicapped in other areas, and I think they persevere.
These aren't rhetorical questions - I'm genuinely curious: From your perspective, what is it about black men that white people hate? What is it that makes them treat this 6% of the population so poorly, that they build systems and culture their institutions to specifically focus on them. Insofar as black issues are so statistically exceptional - low test scores, homicide rates, and wage differences are standard deviations apart from white and other non-white groups, why have whites devised a society that victimizes them uniquely apart from the rest of the 94% of the population?
This country started with centuries of black people being treated as literal objects. Seen as subhuman. When we got freedom, the hatred multiplied tenfold. There is a very very deep rooted culture of seeing black men as just animals. Thugs. Emmitt Till, a child, was beaten and murdered because a white girl accussed him of flirting with her. So much has been done to keep them down. Black Wall Street firebombed. The war on drugs. Now that they’ve been effectively kept down, never given a chance, it’s easy for people to just think they are the problem.
No your country started with a genocide on the Indians. Who were mis-labeled as a race because people sucked at reading maps. Get your facts straight.
That doesn’t contradict anything I said.
It contradicts your first sentence:
This country started with centuries of black people being treated as literal objects.
No it doesn’t. The prolonged genocide of Indiginous People, and the prolonged enslavement of black Americans were both happening in the early, and most formative, years of America’s life. For a good deal of it, at the same time. There were black slaves that killed Native Americans, and Native Americans that had slaves.
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Or maybe men overall treat women almost equally shittily? Except we know that’s not true because there is a lot of data o could easily pull that shows black women doing worse than white women.
But it’s very true that certain systemic forms of racism hit black men harder than black women, like being jailed more, shot more, etc.
You quoted this: "... Conditional on parent income, the black-white income gap is driven entirely by large differences in wages and employment rates between black and white men; there are no such differences between black and white women." "The disparities that remain also can’t be explained by differences in cognitive ability, an argument made by people who cite racial gaps in test scores that appear for both black boys and girls. If such inherent differences existed by race, “you’ve got to explain to me why these putative ability differences aren’t handicapping women,” said David Grusky, a Stanford sociologist who has reviewed the research."
And then said something about the usual suspects ignoring this. So I didn't ignore it and wanted clarification -- and then upon clarification, you said the complete opposite thing you quoted.
I just did. There are several key areas of systemic racism that hit Black man much harder than black women. Black womenswear are handicapped in other areas, and I think they persevere.
These aren't rhetorical questions - I'm genuinely curious: From your perspective, what is it about black men that white people hate? What is it that makes them treat this 6% of the population so poorly, that they build systems and culture their institutions to specifically focus on them. Insofar as black issues are so statistically exceptional - low test scores, homicide rates, and wage differences are standard deviations apart from white and other non-white groups, why have whites devised a society that victimizes them uniquely apart from the rest of the 94% of the population?
This country started with centuries of black people being treated as literal objects. Seen as subhuman. When we got freedom, the hatred multiplied tenfold. There is a very very deep rooted culture of seeing black men as just animals. Thugs. Emmitt Till, a child, was beaten and murdered because a white girl accussed him of flirting with her. So much has been done to keep them down. Black Wall Street firebombed. The war on drugs. Now that they’ve been effectively kept down, never given a chance, it’s easy for people to just think they are the problem.
No your country started with a genocide on the Indians. Who were mis-labeled as a race because people sucked at reading maps. Get your facts straight.
That doesn’t contradict anything I said.
It contradicts your first sentence:
This country started with centuries of black people being treated as literal objects.
and Native Americans that had slaves.
So slavery existed before the white mans arrived :ohhh
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I'll read it, but it's gonna take me awhile because I'm in between things atm.
I look forward to your comments on the article. Thank you again.
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Or maybe men overall treat women almost equally shittily? Except we know that’s not true because there is a lot of data o could easily pull that shows black women doing worse than white women.
But it’s very true that certain systemic forms of racism hit black men harder than black women, like being jailed more, shot more, etc.
You quoted this: "... Conditional on parent income, the black-white income gap is driven entirely by large differences in wages and employment rates between black and white men; there are no such differences between black and white women." "The disparities that remain also can’t be explained by differences in cognitive ability, an argument made by people who cite racial gaps in test scores that appear for both black boys and girls. If such inherent differences existed by race, “you’ve got to explain to me why these putative ability differences aren’t handicapping women,” said David Grusky, a Stanford sociologist who has reviewed the research."
And then said something about the usual suspects ignoring this. So I didn't ignore it and wanted clarification -- and then upon clarification, you said the complete opposite thing you quoted.
I just did. There are several key areas of systemic racism that hit Black man much harder than black women. Black womenswear are handicapped in other areas, and I think they persevere.
These aren't rhetorical questions - I'm genuinely curious: From your perspective, what is it about black men that white people hate? What is it that makes them treat this 6% of the population so poorly, that they build systems and culture their institutions to specifically focus on them. Insofar as black issues are so statistically exceptional - low test scores, homicide rates, and wage differences are standard deviations apart from white and other non-white groups, why have whites devised a society that victimizes them uniquely apart from the rest of the 94% of the population?
This country started with centuries of black people being treated as literal objects. Seen as subhuman. When we got freedom, the hatred multiplied tenfold. There is a very very deep rooted culture of seeing black men as just animals. Thugs. Emmitt Till, a child, was beaten and murdered because a white girl accussed him of flirting with her. So much has been done to keep them down. Black Wall Street firebombed. The war on drugs. Now that they’ve been effectively kept down, never given a chance, it’s easy for people to just think they are the problem.
No your country started with a genocide on the Indians. Who were mis-labeled as a race because people sucked at reading maps. Get your facts straight.
That doesn’t contradict anything I said.
It contradicts your first sentence:
This country started with centuries of black people being treated as literal objects.
and Native Americans that had slaves.
So slavery existed before the white mans arrived :ohhh
No. They had slaves at the same time white people did. Obviously nowhere near as many.
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No. They had slaves at the same time white people did. Obviously nowhere near as many.
They also had slaves before Europeans arrived (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_among_Native_Americans_in_the_United_States#Traditions_of_Native_American_slavery).
:ufup
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No. They had slaves at the same time white people did. Obviously nowhere near as many.
They also had slaves before Europeans arrived (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_among_Native_Americans_in_the_United_States#Traditions_of_Native_American_slavery).
:ufup
(https://i.giphy.com/media/7rk0lj2k8DqMM/giphy.webp)
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The Indians were pretty awful in general, if you do a deep dive into their history pre-european settlers. Like, its probably a good thing we gave them those small pox blankets in retrospect.
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The Indians were pretty awful in general, if you do a deep dive into their history pre-european settlers. Like, its probably a good thing we gave them those small pox blankets in retrospect.
:exxy
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Hey Cream
Is OJ guilty?
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Hey Cream
Is OJ guilty?
That's weak. Most black people will now admit they were wrong, and he was guilty but they wanted that 'win' anyways. Every black comedian has joked about it recently. They all 'know'
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Hey Cream
Is OJ guilty?
What assimiliate said. At the time black people celebrated because they never got away with anything. I wasn’t even alive so I wouldn’t be able to tell you without research how many of those black people actually thought he was innocent or knew the truth of the time
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https://twitter.com/ReutersPolitics/status/977354424392847360
https://twitter.com/davidmackau/status/977356275540545537
Cindi lost again
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Jfc
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Cindi's somewhere like "Can't be banned from the army if you make your own army."
:rollsafe
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tfw you get to invade Iran with no transgender troops
(https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5ab4e4f11e00008e0b7af863.jpeg?ops=scalefit_720_noupscale)
One one hand it's shitty that transgenders get excluded. On the other hand they won't have to march into Iran for John Bolton.
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https://twitter.com/ReutersPolitics/status/977354424392847360
https://twitter.com/davidmackau/status/977356275540545537
Cindi lost again
I'm not sure why this is such a big deal. Even the whole don't ask don't tell policy... the army functions just like a sports team. it's a tight knit group of bros. it's a brutal environment if you can't hang with that atmosphere.
Why would you even want to submit yourself to that environment if you were trans or nonbinary
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https://twitter.com/ReutersPolitics/status/977354424392847360
https://twitter.com/davidmackau/status/977356275540545537
Cindi lost again
I'm not sure why this is such a big deal. Even the whole don't ask don't tell policy... the army functions just like a sports team. it's a tight knit group of bros. it's a brutal environment if you can't hang with that atmosphere.
Why would you even want to submit yourself to that environment if you were trans or nonbinary
I never understood that part either. Especially because the places you're shipped to (Afghanistan, Iraq) hate the LGBTQ+ even more than Mike Pence does.
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With how there was no justice delivered with Rodney King, and tons of other cases where black people got fucked by the justice system, OJ defying the odds and not being charged for the murders was a huge fuck you to our justice system.
Not speaking for black people, but that's how I see it. If black people get fucked time after time in our justice system, a high profile, black celebrity slipping thru is justice in of itself.
What he did is abhorrent obviously , but the feelings of him being found innocent at the time was easily justified.
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https://twitter.com/ReutersPolitics/status/977354424392847360
https://twitter.com/davidmackau/status/977356275540545537
Cindi lost again
I'm not sure why this is such a big deal. Even the whole don't ask don't tell policy... the army functions just like a sports team. it's a tight knit group of bros. it's a brutal environment if you can't hang with that atmosphere.
Why would you even want to submit yourself to that environment if you were trans or nonbinary
War sucks. Why would ANYONE want to serve?
The point is that they can.
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With how there was no justice delivered with Rodney King, and tons of other cases where black people got fucked by the justice system,
oh fuck me this is still out there like that? wow.
Rodney King led police on a high speed chase because he was driving drunk and it would have clearly violated his parole for a pior robbery.
And the piece of shit continued to struggle with drug and alcohol addiction, a ton of driving violations and a ton of other shit after winning millions for this case. Fuck Rodney King, he deserved to get his ass beat.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqWyCBSCNdg
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqWyCBSCNdg
The hilarity, irony, ridiculousness of this. In today's world people would consider this somehow racist for mocking frivolous bullshit :doge
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Man assimiliate you never miss a beat do you
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https://youtu.be/yE0Uua7jnSA
If you think this use of force is justified, youre either a fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow or get pleasure from seeing people get cornered and beaten.
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Man assimiliate you never miss a beat do you
https://youtu.be/yE0Uua7jnSA
If you think this use of force is justified, youre either a fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow or get pleasure from seeing people get cornered and beaten.
Does that make me a racist that i think Rodney King deserved to get his ass beat? Anyone driving drunk speeding through the streets deserves their ass kicked. But that's just me, sometimes i believe in hard justice. Yup, beat his fucking ass. Anyone driving fucking drunk speeding through my neighborhood i'd love to do that to them.
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Yeah, that comment was a little beyond. I don’t really know that much about Rodney King, but I definitely believe having a history of petty crime, even if long and illustrious, does not mean that cops should be able to beat you fucking silly for non-violent offenses.
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Yeah, that comment was a little beyond. I don’t really know that much about Rodney King, but I definitely believe having a history of petty crime, even if long and illustrious, does not mean that cops should be able to beat you fucking silly for non-violent offenses.
non-violent offense? what are you talking about? he was speeding drunk in a vehicle. he could have killed people. imagine if it were you in a car, and he zipped by you, or worse, smashed right into you and killed your wife and children.
you people are something else.
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Yeah, that comment was a little beyond. I don’t really know that much about Rodney King, but I definitely believe having a history of petty crime, even if long and illustrious, does not mean that cops should be able to beat you fucking silly for non-violent offenses.
non-violent offense? what are you talking about? he was speeding drunk in a vehicle. he could have killed people. imagine if it were you in a car, and he zipped by you, or worse, smashed right into you and killed your wife and children.
you people are something else.
Then catch him and arrest him. Don’t beat him within an inch of his life. That’s revenge not justice
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Yeah, that comment was a little beyond. I don’t really know that much about Rodney King, but I definitely believe having a history of petty crime, even if long and illustrious, does not mean that cops should be able to beat you fucking silly for non-violent offenses.
non-violent offense? what are you talking about? he was speeding drunk in a vehicle. he could have killed people. imagine if it were you in a car, and he zipped by you, or worse, smashed right into you and killed your wife and children.
you people are something else.
Then catch him and arrest him. Don’t beat him within an inch of his life. That’s revenge not justice
Yup, so he becomes another statistic you'll proudly shove in our faces as proof of an unjust criminal system hellbent on discrimination.
Gotcha :wow
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Its grade D trolling. For all the witch hunting after Cream, the fact that Assman gets enjoyment out of playing Devil's advocate for the cops that beat Rodney King? :lol
Like, if Cream is a troll account, the amount of effort would be commendable, itd be work. Taking a sloppy shit at random like Assman, doesn't take much besides wanting attention.
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Yeah, that comment was a little beyond. I don’t really know that much about Rodney King, but I definitely believe having a history of petty crime, even if long and illustrious, does not mean that cops should be able to beat you fucking silly for non-violent offenses.
non-violent offense? what are you talking about? he was speeding drunk in a vehicle. he could have killed people. imagine if it were you in a car, and he zipped by you, or worse, smashed right into you and killed your wife and children.
you people are something else.
Then catch him and arrest him. Don’t beat him within an inch of his life. That’s revenge not justice
Yup, so he becomes another statistic you'll proudly shove in our faces as proof of an unjust criminal system hellbent on discrimination.
Gotcha :wow
.... right because that didn’t happen after he was unjustly beaten and forever became a symbol of how police treat black people unfairly?
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.... right because that didn’t happen after he was unjustly beaten and forever became a symbol of how police treat black people unfairly?
I agree with you there. It was a bad situation. Maybe they beat him a little too long? Maybe. And he did become a symbol and that's the shittiest part of it all. THAT piece of shit becoming the symbol to a movement :snoop
But again i do think he deserved to get his ass beat. What exactly is horrific about what i'm saying? People like you think nazi's should get punched in the mouth because they're saying dumb crap at a rally, right?
Its grade D trolling. For all the witch hunting after Cream, the fact that Assman gets enjoyment out of playing Devil's advocate for the cops that beat Rodney King? :lol
Like, if Cream is a troll account, the amount of effort would be commendable, itd be work. Taking a sloppy shit at random like Assman, doesn't take much besides wanting attention.
Only that i'm being sincere. If you got in a car and sped through my street drunk i'd love to get you out of it and start pummeling you.... not sure what's so controversial here?
Probably cause he was black eh?
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God what I would pay to hear you express this in a room full of black people
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The only thing you pummel with your fist is your own cock. You're way too much of a coward to ever pick a fight with anyone. I dont think you'd have enough courage to express yourself like you do on forums, either.
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God what I would pay to hear you express this in a room full of black people
But why does this have to do with black people? again, what the fuck does anything i say have to do with black people other than the fact that in this case he was black? i wonder if you would feel the same if it was a white dude getting his ass kicked for doing what piece of shit king did.
you'd probably get off on it.
The only thing you pummel with your fist is your own cock. You're way too much of a coward to ever pick a fight with anyone. I dont think you'd have enough courage to express yourself like you do on forums, either.
KMFDM better than the best. :punch
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i only remember marrec from the thread about his lady leaving him and him paying for a kid that wasn't his. guess he never did learn to be human
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/girlfriend-of-7-years-broke-up-with-me-i-dont-know-how-to-be-human-now.1060249/
Man, to think that was three years ago, ♫ meeeemmmorieeees ♫
Did you get back together? Do you still see the kid?
I need to know
Oh lord no we didn't get back together, that was a toxic af relationship. I'm with a much better woman now.
Ya I still see the kid, I helped raise him from a baby and the only real father he's known, it would be a travesty in that kids life in the only influence for the rest of his development were her.
respect :salute
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cheeseburger to draft dodge. :-*
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbcRy2rJiyg
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbcRy2rJiyg
That was pretty funny, and I’ll admit, an example of smart white person saying the n-word usage.
But the idea of a cop having “balls” if they are dismissive of violence against a black victim, is hilarious, in 2018.
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This is what I'm talking about. They are not being specific about "education levels". We know that blacks are overrepresented in low-paying majors and under-represented in high-paying ones. But the study you linked just shows comparisons with everyone with a "Bachelor's Degree". I feel like people that devise these studies do this on purpose, because this is the most obtuse, idiotic oversight that any serious sociologist could make for showing income disparity in educational achievement.
"A black man with an associates degree has the same chances -- about 88 percent-- of finding a job as a white high school graduate, according to a recent analysis of employment rates and education for whites and minorities by Young Invincibles, a nonprofit group focusing on the economic issues impacting millennials. Getting a bachelor's degree ups those chances to 93 percent for a black man, the same as a white man who dropped out of college."
Again, are they controlling for the degrees? Who is getting what income with what degree? There are plenty of associates degrees that are garbage, and if blacks are overrepresented in junk degrees, then this is an expected outcome.
They are using census and IRS data of 20 million people, as far as I know they do not require the major and concentration on census forms. This is not some nefarious plot, its simply the limitations in the data.
If the hypothesis is that black men are just choosing lesser degrees than white men, perhaps, but we need to establish evidence of that. And we would also probably need to devise some way to measure it with the 1% of areas where this income gap phenomena is not happening according to this study.
However, I would point out much of what you two are arguing over is missing the forest for the trees when it comes to this specific study. What this study largely is showing is that in 99% of areas in the country, black men, when accounting for all variables they can account for, are performing worse off than their white peers AND if a black person is able to reach the same income level as his white counter-part he is far less likely for his children to remain in that income bracket. However, and the intersting aspect is what we can begin to discern in the 1% of areas where this is not the case. The study mentions a handful of things those 1% have in common. Perhaps another thing they have in common is types of degrees sought.
Given how monumental this study is, and how it literally is not even a week old, my guess is that a lot of work is going to built off this in the future. But as is it paints a pretty stark picture that a lot of the assumptions that both the left and especially the right have are not fully accurate.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbcRy2rJiyg
That was pretty funny, and I’ll admit, an example of smart white person saying the n-word usage.
But the idea of a cop having “balls” if they are dismissive of violence against a black victim, is hilarious, in 2018.
I like his brand of comedy quite a bit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3WMx1blONU
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Reeeeeeee
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Man, that Rodney King thing reminds me of a story from my childhood.
HardcoreRetro presents: Stories From a Dutch White Trash Neighbourhood
My best friend at the time's dad was also a petty thief. (The dad's now homeless. They basically gentrified my neighbourhood and most of the trash scattered around the whole country. Think the hard criminals went to Belgium.) His dad used to go on "vacation" (AKA jail) all the time. The guy's also a heavy drinker, basically drunk 24/7 and we see the cop car pull up to his house to take him to jail once again. So far, so good. The moment the police ring the bell the dad storms out of the house, kicks and punches the two police guys out of the way. He runs up to the police car and starts kicking the shit out of that instead. In the meantime the two police guys have called for backup. A little later a police van pulls up with 4 extra cops and all 6 of them jump on him to take him in.
Six months later, when my friend's dad finally got out of jail again, I asked him what happened on the way to the prison. He told me that they were driving on the highway and when the police found an empty lot by the road they pulled up there. He was already in handcuffs by that time so he couldn't defend himself anymore. They take him out of the car and all 6 cops start beating the shit out of him. They beat him up bad enough they couldn't stick him in regular prison right away. So they put him in solitary till the worst damage was gone. I tell him: "Man, that's fucked up. But I kinda understand the cops as well." He laughs and drinks the rest of his beer. Then he started telling some other story about how he and a friend managed to steal a moneyprinting press. (Which was true, he offered me 1000 guilders (Our currency at the time, before the euro.) for 100 guilders.)
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Chris Rock went in on the OJ thing like right after it happened
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNAfvaJEOF4
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The only thing I could think watching the latest Chris Rock special is that the guy'd make a great Joker in the new Batman movie. He's got that crazy Jack Nicholson smile.
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Because *white* people suck at reading maps. Have you ever had a (white) woman as your navigator in the car? Yeah.
Anyway, the Indians would still be alive if the Wakandans had got to America first.
Are hispanics white though? It was Columbus who went there first and thought he had landed in India.
Although before him apparently the Vikings reached America too. Why is there no alternative history TV series of VIKING AMERICA. Would be amazing.
Call me Netflix. :)
Where would you look if you wanted to know what a post viking society would look like? :thinking
Doesn't sound as exciting now, does it? :doge
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Because *white* people suck at reading maps. Have you ever had a (white) woman as your navigator in the car? Yeah.
Anyway, the Indians would still be alive if the Wakandans had got to America first.
Are hispanics white though? It was Columbus who went there first and thought he had landed in India.
Although before him apparently the Vikings reached America too. Why is there no alternative history TV series of VIKING AMERICA. Would be amazing.
Call me Netflix. :)
Where would you look if you wanted to know what a post viking society would look like? :thinking
Doesn't sound as exciting now, does it? :doge
I'm thinking more like WW2 but with the Vikings.
Or Vietnam but with the Vikings.
Or the Cold War, but with the Vikings.
Or the genocide on the Indians but with the Vikings.
Thor looking motherfuckers beating up the Nazi's or invading Iraq.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/iENhOWXk5f4/maxresdefault.jpg)
(https://res.cloudinary.com/simpleview/image/upload/c_fill,f_auto,h_582,q_80,w_1164/v1/clients/norway/gudvangen_viking_video_norway_400de76f-0c8f-4009-ac0f-d585ed349238.jpg)
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or like this
(http://www.fatherhoodinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Dads-with-buggies.jpg)
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or like this
(http://www.fatherhoodinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Dads-with-buggies.jpg)
They look ill equipped to fight the Nazi planes and tanks but I'd watch it.
Who would win?
Norwegian Diverse Beta Males and Babies
(http://www.fatherhoodinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Dads-with-buggies.jpg)
A squad of King tigers
(https://cdn.history.com/sites/2/2017/05/GettyImages-542871253-1.jpg)
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https://twitter.com/ReutersPolitics/status/977354424392847360
https://twitter.com/davidmackau/status/977356275540545537
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I'm not sure why this is such a big deal. Even the whole don't ask don't tell policy... the army functions just like a sports team. it's a tight knit group of bros. it's a brutal environment if you can't hang with that atmosphere.
Why would you even want to submit yourself to that environment if you were trans or nonbinary
War sucks. Why would ANYONE want to serve?
The point is that they can.
Not really. You just don't get into the military because you can. It means your surroundings are going to fuck your shit up. People with anything troubling their minds at almost all times (this is what gender dysphoria is, according to trans people) is the polar opposite of what you need in the military. If you can become a liability to your squadmates based on your mental stability, it really isn't the right job to take... just because you "can". Having said that, I think psych evals should already reflect that so I don't get why the general disqualification.
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On one hand it's disappointing that a T is being told they can't fight for their country.
On the other hand why would a T want to fight for this country.
The tweets just read like "we're not going to let you join because you're just going to use it to fund a transition and have the government foot the bill."
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Rodney King called for peace after the beating and was widely mocked for it, turning his plea into a national catchphrase. 50 something people died and people’s bloodlust was so severe they mocked the victim calling for peace
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agree with you there. It was a bad situation. Maybe they beat him a little too long? Maybe. And he did become a symbol and that's the shittiest part of it all. THAT piece of shit becoming the symbol to a movement
But again i do think he deserved to get his ass beat. What exactly is horrific about what i'm saying? People like you think nazi's should get punched in the mouth because they're saying dumb crap at a rally, right?
Only that i'm being sincere. If you got in a car and sped through my street drunk i'd love to get you out of it and start pummeling you.... not sure what's so controversial here?
Probably cause he was black eh?
Agents of the state beating a subject who has been beyond subdued is a blatant violation of the subjects constitutionally protected civil rights:
nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws
You engaging in vigilante justice is less egregious if only because you aren't an agent deliberately tasked with the protection of citizens civil liberties and enforcement against those who violate them.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Not to mention that whole part where you're probably more likely to be punished for your actions. :doge
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And the piece of shit continued to struggle with drug and alcohol addiction
The nerve of that guy!
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agree with you there. It was a bad situation. Maybe they beat him a little too long? Maybe. And he did become a symbol and that's the shittiest part of it all. THAT piece of shit becoming the symbol to a movement
But again i do think he deserved to get his ass beat. What exactly is horrific about what i'm saying? People like you think nazi's should get punched in the mouth because they're saying dumb crap at a rally, right?
Only that i'm being sincere. If you got in a car and sped through my street drunk i'd love to get you out of it and start pummeling you.... not sure what's so controversial here?
Probably cause he was black eh?
Agents of the state beating a subject who has been beyond subdued is a blatant violation of the subjects constitutionally protected civil rights:
nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws
You engaging in vigilante justice is less egregious if only because you aren't an agent deliberately tasked with the protection of citizens civil liberties and enforcement against those who violate them.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Not to mention that whole part where you're probably more likely to be punished for your actions. :doge
Yeah, nothin you say here is wrong. I agree, just like i agreed with Cream that it became a symbol.
Yet, still, the uproar over him being "black" as if this was purely a race thing is the problem i have. People in this very thread thought/think Rodney King was just an innocent black man that was pulled over and beat to a pulp which was far from the truth. But of course everyone well then pivot once the truth is pointed out.
My personal opinion that he deserved to get his ass beat doesn't dismiss the fact it was wrong, now does it?
And the piece of shit continued to struggle with drug and alcohol addiction
The nerve of that guy!
Yes, the fucking nerve. He's a loser, always was a loser. I don't have tolerance or patience for shit like that after a certain point. You got 3 million fucking dollars, you'd think that was enough for him to clean up his life.
No pitty here.
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agree with you there. It was a bad situation. Maybe they beat him a little too long? Maybe. And he did become a symbol and that's the shittiest part of it all. THAT piece of shit becoming the symbol to a movement
But again i do think he deserved to get his ass beat. What exactly is horrific about what i'm saying? People like you think nazi's should get punched in the mouth because they're saying dumb crap at a rally, right?
Only that i'm being sincere. If you got in a car and sped through my street drunk i'd love to get you out of it and start pummeling you.... not sure what's so controversial here?
Probably cause he was black eh?
Agents of the state beating a subject who has been beyond subdued is a blatant violation of the subjects constitutionally protected civil rights:
nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws
You engaging in vigilante justice is less egregious if only because you aren't an agent deliberately tasked with the protection of citizens civil liberties and enforcement against those who violate them.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Not to mention that whole part where you're probably more likely to be punished for your actions. :doge
Yeah, nothin you say here is wrong. I agree, just like i agreed with Cream that it became a symbol.
Yet, still, the uproar over him being "black" as if this was purely a race thing is the problem i have. People in this very thread thought/think Rodney King was just an innocent black man that was pulled over and beat to a pulp which was far from the truth. But of course everyone well then pivot once the truth is pointed out.
My personal opinion that he deserved to get his ass beat doesn't dismiss the fact it was wrong, now does it?
And the piece of shit continued to struggle with drug and alcohol addiction
The nerve of that guy!
Yes, the fucking nerve. He's a loser, always was a loser. I don't have tolerance or patience for shit like that after a certain point. You got 3 million fucking dollars, you'd think that was enough for him to clean up his life.
No pitty here.
Not surprised drug and alcohol addiction can be added to the long list of things you’re ignorant about. Oh he’s got 3 million dollars! Don’t you know anyone over a certain tax bracket should be able to pay to have their addiction removed?
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https://twitter.com/ReutersPolitics/status/977354424392847360
https://twitter.com/davidmackau/status/977356275540545537
Cindi lost again
I'm not sure why this is such a big deal. Even the whole don't ask don't tell policy... the army functions just like a sports team. it's a tight knit group of bros. it's a brutal environment if you can't hang with that atmosphere.
Why would you even want to submit yourself to that environment if you were trans or nonbinary
War sucks. Why would ANYONE want to serve?
The point is that they can.
Not really. You just don't get into the military because you can. It means your surroundings are going to fuck your shit up. People with anything troubling their minds at almost all times (this is what gender dysphoria is, according to trans people) is the polar opposite of what you need in the military. If you can become a liability to your squadmates based on your mental stability, it really isn't the right job to take... just because you "can". Having said that, I think psych evals should already reflect that so I don't get why the general disqualification.
lmao oh yea, can't compromise the steely mental stability of your average military recruit. The military is famously incredibly concerned with the mental health of their recruits, that's why their recruitment policy targets impoverished teenagers
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https://twitter.com/ReutersPolitics/status/977354424392847360
https://twitter.com/davidmackau/status/977356275540545537
Cindi lost again
I'm not sure why this is such a big deal. Even the whole don't ask don't tell policy... the army functions just like a sports team. it's a tight knit group of bros. it's a brutal environment if you can't hang with that atmosphere.
Why would you even want to submit yourself to that environment if you were trans or nonbinary
War sucks. Why would ANYONE want to serve?
The point is that they can.
Not really. You just don't get into the military because you can. It means your surroundings are going to fuck your shit up. People with anything troubling their minds at almost all times (this is what gender dysphoria is, according to trans people) is the polar opposite of what you need in the military. If you can become a liability to your squadmates based on your mental stability, it really isn't the right job to take... just because you "can". Having said that, I think psych evals should already reflect that so I don't get why the general disqualification.
lmao oh yea, can't compromise the steely mental stability of your average military recruit. The military is famously incredibly concerned with the mental health of their recruits, that's why their recruitment policy targets impoverished teenagers
No no no. Come on! The government puts SO much attention on the soldier’s mental health when they get BACK from war.
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Era wants to have their cake and eat it too and we’re all getting sick of it. Bunch of people flipping out over the site being too heavily moderated, meanwhile just as many of us pissed and shitting on the mods for just giving pointless bans of a couple days of a week to people saying blatantly bigoted bullshit.
We keep telling them if we’re gonna have the reputation of being a crazy Social Studies Warrior echo chamber the least we could do is fucking act like it, not half-ass it, and make the forum comfortable for the people who have to deal with this.
Or if Era refuses to get rid of these people, then let us freely shit on them! The report system is failing due to mod incompetence and regardless of which side you are on, everyone is pissed.
It was supposed to be a video game forum. The community mostly wants to talk aboot video games.
After all it spawned from : "GAMING AGE"
Nobody cares about your dumb race/gender/culture shit. You and your friends have completely ruined it for the rest of us.
ResetEra has turned into a shithole in record time. With NeoGAF it took about 5 years to be Zerg rushed by the SJW's.
With Era the drum circle lasted like a week.
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Today I find out the OT side didn't exist and nobody posted there.
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Today I find out the OT side didn't exist and nobody posted there.
You could add movies and sports to the list. But really at the beginning nobody cared about posters like Cream and their dumb bullshit.
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in the distant past, posters like cream had to deal with the negativity they create instead of having the mods ban those that dislike their posts
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Era wants to have their cake and eat it too and we’re all getting sick of it. Bunch of people flipping out over the site being too heavily moderated, meanwhile just as many of us pissed and shitting on the mods for just giving pointless bans of a couple days of a week to people saying blatantly bigoted bullshit.
We keep telling them if we’re gonna have the reputation of being a crazy Social Studies Warrior echo chamber the least we could do is fucking act like it, not half-ass it, and make the forum comfortable for the people who have to deal with this.
Or if Era refuses to get rid of these people, then let us freely shit on them! The report system is failing due to mod incompetence and regardless of which side you are on, everyone is pissed.
It was supposed to be a video game forum. The community mostly wants to talk aboot video games.
After all it spawned from : "GAMING AGE"
Nobody cares about your dumb race/gender/culture shit. You and your friends have completely ruined it for the rest of us.
ResetEra has turned into a shithole in record time. With NeoGAF it took about 5 years to be Zerg rushed by the Social Studies Warrior's.
With Era the drum circle lasted like a week.
If you don’t care, don’t get involved. You’ll have no chance of being banned.
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Era wants to have their cake and eat it too and we’re all getting sick of it. Bunch of people flipping out over the site being too heavily moderated, meanwhile just as many of us pissed and shitting on the mods for just giving pointless bans of a couple days of a week to people saying blatantly bigoted bullshit.
We keep telling them if we’re gonna have the reputation of being a crazy Social Studies Warrior echo chamber the least we could do is fucking act like it, not half-ass it, and make the forum comfortable for the people who have to deal with this.
Or if Era refuses to get rid of these people, then let us freely shit on them! The report system is failing due to mod incompetence and regardless of which side you are on, everyone is pissed.
It was supposed to be a video game forum. The community mostly wants to talk aboot video games.
After all it spawned from : "GAMING AGE"
Nobody cares about your dumb race/gender/culture shit. You and your friends have completely ruined it for the rest of us.
ResetEra has turned into a shithole in record time. With NeoGAF it took about 5 years to be Zerg rushed by the Social Studies Warrior's.
With Era the drum circle lasted like a week.
If you don’t care, don’t get involved. You’ll have no chance of being banned.
I ignored it for the longest time but there's a problem with that. Laws are being written to support your dumb shit and the sarcasm meters are so broken that funny YouTube videos end in lawsuits.
The proper response to most of the 'issues' would be: "Pfft, Eh, It's not the end of the world" or "Lawl grow up" . But the constant whining turns it into actual legislature and policy. Not to mention the rewriting of history that has slowly begun.
The mob gets what it wants without any rational arguments, which is the worst way to govern.
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Not surprised drug and alcohol addiction can be added to the long list of things you’re ignorant about. Oh he’s got 3 million dollars! Don’t you know anyone over a certain tax bracket should be able to pay to have their addiction removed?
I'm actually pretty liberal when it comes to this. I think drugs should be legalized and i'm sympathetic to alcoholism to a certain point.
But fuck Cream how much lenieancy do you want to give someone? Drunk driving and speeding -forgivable. Drug abuse and alcoholism for your entire life- forgivable.
Fucking hell. When do you ever take personal responsibility? Seriously? You rail against the system, but if the system doesn't excuse fucking losers and their poor decisions the system is broken.
You're so young and cuddled that you don't even realize what other systems are like around the world. You.Are.In.Fact. A product of a very lenient system. That's the crazy ass irony of all this :lawd
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I feel like Cream is a nicer, kinder, less fucking self-righteous version of besada. Speaking of which, where is besada these days?
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Not surprised drug and alcohol addiction can be added to the long list of things you’re ignorant about. Oh he’s got 3 million dollars! Don’t you know anyone over a certain tax bracket should be able to pay to have their addiction removed?
I'm actually pretty liberal when it comes to this. I think drugs should be legalized and i'm sympathetic to alcoholism to a certain point.
But fuck Cream how much lenieancy do you want to give someone? Drunk driving and speeding -forgivable. Drug abuse and alcoholism for your entire life- forgivable.
Fucking hell. When do you ever take personal responsibility? Seriously? You rail against the system, but if the system doesn't excuse fucking losers and their poor decisions the system is broken.
You're so young and cuddled that you don't even realize what other systems are like around the world. You.Are.In.Fact. A product of a very lenient system. That's the crazy ass irony of all this :lawd
Lol you’re trying to high road someone who doesn’t think people should be beaten by the law.
“Personal responsibility” pfft
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Not surprised drug and alcohol addiction can be added to the long list of things you’re ignorant about. Oh he’s got 3 million dollars! Don’t you know anyone over a certain tax bracket should be able to pay to have their addiction removed?
I'm actually pretty liberal when it comes to this. I think drugs should be legalized and i'm sympathetic to alcoholism to a certain point.
But fuck Cream how much lenieancy do you want to give someone? Drunk driving and speeding -forgivable. Drug abuse and alcoholism for your entire life- forgivable.
Fucking hell. When do you ever take personal responsibility? Seriously? You rail against the system, but if the system doesn't excuse fucking losers and their poor decisions the system is broken.
You're so young and cuddled that you don't even realize what other systems are like around the world. You.Are.In.Fact. A product of a very lenient system. That's the crazy ass irony of all this :lawd
Lol you’re trying to high road someone who doesn’t think people should be beaten by the law.
“Personal responsibility” pfft
Sometimes the law needs to you beat you and i also believe if you cannot conform to civil society the law should take you outside the community gates and terminate you.
At the same time i can be sympathetic to your problems, i can also believe you no longer have a chance within my community. I know nuance is hard for your generation but hopefully you learn this with age.
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Yes, the fucking nerve. He's a loser, always was a loser. I don't have tolerance or patience for shit like that after a certain point. You got 3 million fucking dollars, you'd think that was enough for him to clean up his life.
Yes, just like HoHan had a million dollars from being a child star and got "clean." OH WAIT. Drug Addiction isn't a "fix it and forget it" deal, bro.
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Not surprised drug and alcohol addiction can be added to the long list of things you’re ignorant about. Oh he’s got 3 million dollars! Don’t you know anyone over a certain tax bracket should be able to pay to have their addiction removed?
I'm actually pretty liberal when it comes to this. I think drugs should be legalized and i'm sympathetic to alcoholism to a certain point.
But fuck Cream how much lenieancy do you want to give someone? Drunk driving and speeding -forgivable. Drug abuse and alcoholism for your entire life- forgivable.
Fucking hell. When do you ever take personal responsibility? Seriously? You rail against the system, but if the system doesn't excuse fucking losers and their poor decisions the system is broken.
You're so young and cuddled that you don't even realize what other systems are like around the world. You.Are.In.Fact. A product of a very lenient system. That's the crazy ass irony of all this :lawd
So i found this post hilarious because americans and lenience are like oranges and toothpaste, whenever a yank talks about crime (and here i include things like shoplifting and copyright infringement) he tends to sound just like an Iranian mullah issuing a fatwa against Salman Rushdie.
And then i just have to scroll back to find out exactly who got cuddled by lenient muricans and holy shit it's about Rodney King. :lol :lol :lol
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I feel like Cream is a nicer, kinder, less fucking self-righteous version of besada. Speaking of which, where is besada these days?
Well it's 5:45PM EST, meaning he is probably walking in or walking out of his favorite fast food establishment for the third time today.
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I'm guessing assy probably just gets really up in arms about drinking cuz he's a product of fetal alcohol syndrome
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Just watched the latest Ricky Gervais special on Netflix.
It was hilarious and he was spot on. No wonder folks got 'triggered'. :doge
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Not surprised drug and alcohol addiction can be added to the long list of things you’re ignorant about. Oh he’s got 3 million dollars! Don’t you know anyone over a certain tax bracket should be able to pay to have their addiction removed?
I'm actually pretty liberal when it comes to this. I think drugs should be legalized and i'm sympathetic to alcoholism to a certain point.
But fuck Cream how much lenieancy do you want to give someone? Drunk driving and speeding -forgivable. Drug abuse and alcoholism for your entire life- forgivable.
Fucking hell. When do you ever take personal responsibility? Seriously? You rail against the system, but if the system doesn't excuse fucking losers and their poor decisions the system is broken.
You're so young and cuddled that you don't even realize what other systems are like around the world. You.Are.In.Fact. A product of a very lenient system. That's the crazy ass irony of all this :lawd
So i found this post hilarious because americans and lenience are like oranges and toothpaste, whenever a yank talks about crime (and here i include things like shoplifting and copyright infringement) he tends to sound just like an Iranian mullah issuing a fatwa against Salman Rushdie.
And then i just have to scroll back to find out exactly who got cuddled by lenient muricans and holy shit it's about Rodney King. :lol :lol :lol
What, you lost me. Try again man.
Yes, the fucking nerve. He's a loser, always was a loser. I don't have tolerance or patience for shit like that after a certain point. You got 3 million fucking dollars, you'd think that was enough for him to clean up his life.
Yes, just like HoHan had a million dollars from being a child star and got "clean." OH WAIT. Drug Addiction isn't a "fix it and forget it" deal, bro.
Your comparing a child star to Rodney King? i'm confused. I'd have the child star beaten close to unconsciousness as well if he sped through my neighborhood. I have far less sympathy for hollywood stars and their bullshit than everyone else actually so but maybe i'm confusing what you're trying to say here..... or you're projecting garbage.
I'm totally for free liberty of drugs and alcohol if you are not putting others at risk. I'm not sure why this is controversial.
I'm guessing assy probably just gets really up in arms about drinking cuz he's a product of fetal alcohol syndrome
Beaks. If anyone is a product of substance abuse it'd be you with that mug. I love it though, really.
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Just watched the latest Ricky Gervais special on Netflix.
It was hilarious and he was spot on. No wonder folks got 'triggered'. :doge
I was reading the ERA thread about it earlier today and it sure felt like they were tap dancing around saying he's problematic. I don't follow the comings and goings of Ricky Gervais at all though so I had no idea he was considered a bigot by the Looney brigades.
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I feel like Cream is a nicer, kinder, less fucking self-righteous version of besada. Speaking of which, where is besada these days?
Well it's 5:45PM EST, meaning he is probably walking in or walking out of his favorite fast food establishment for the third time today.
Is it called walking when you're on a rascal?
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Yo, that Gervais special was some blatantly bigoted, unfunny shit. If you thought that was funny...
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Yo, that Gervais special was some blatantly bigoted, unfunny shit. If you thought that was funny...
Then what, the thought police will come knocking at my door? :doge
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Yo, that Gervais special was some blatantly bigoted, unfunny shit. If you thought that was funny...
Then what, the thought police will come knocking at my door? :doge
No I’ll just say you’re probably an asshole with a shitty sense of humor.
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What the hell is this thread even about now since it's not about posting pictures of Cream anymore?
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What the hell is this thread even about now since it's not about posting pictures of Cream anymore?
Race and gender talk is no longer allowed in the Era thread. It goes here
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it's about ethics in ban baiting
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Yo, that Gervais special was some blatantly bigoted, unfunny shit. If you thought that was funny...
In much the same way I wouldn't go to a lumberjack for dentistry, I'm not going to take advice on the finer points of comedy from Cream...
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Yo, that Gervais special was some blatantly bigoted, unfunny shit. If you thought that was funny...
In much the same way I wouldn't go to a lumberjack for dentistry, I'm not going to take advice on the finer points of comedy from Cream...
Yet you go to Gervais? Lol
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Gervais isn't problematic but he definitely is annoying as shit and has become desperately, almost painfully unfunny in everything he's been involved with for years. He basically adopted his "drunk awards show host who shits on the industry while acting like he's above it" as his full time personality in the last 5 years.
gawd, stro, and i just gave you a +1 in the movies thread and then i read this
:picard
i'd punch you in the dick if you even had one
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last time gervais was funny was when garry shandling stomped on his balls
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hot take: standup comedy is basically a dude jacking off on stage to an audience of other dudes (there's a reason they call Louis CK the comic's comic :doge). It's intensely homoerotic, which is why straight guys love it.
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hot take: standup comedy is basically a dude jacking off on stage to an audience of other dudes (there's a reason they call Louis CK the comic's comic :doge). It's intensely homoerotic, which is why straight guys love it.
:neogaf
i hope us straight white dudes can continue to offend you
Hotter take: Podcasts completely ruined stand up
Every single comedian with a podcast is far more interesting and funny on podcasts speaking like normal people and it just draws more attention to how weird and phony stand up is
Aight stro, +1 again for you. Podcasts are blowing up
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what? I'm a straight white dude who loves being gay with my friends, why would it offend me?
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what? I'm a straight white dude who loves being gay with my friends, why would it offend me?
Because you're partially gay duh
Gayknighting :doge
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there's nothing straighter than sucking your homie to completion
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Can't we just abandon the labels and love each other?
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last time gervais was funny was when garry shandling stomped on his balls
I remember that and it was bruuuuuuuutal.
That was something Gervais himself produced, right? I'm almost surprised he didn't just burn the footage.
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Sometimes the law needs to you beat you and i also believe if you cannot conform to civil society the law should take you outside the community gates and terminate you.
At the same time i can be sympathetic to your problems, i can also believe you no longer have a chance within my community. I know nuance is hard for your generation but hopefully you learn this with age.
I was about to say you're describing Mega-City One, but in theory the Judges are technically legally empowered to render their verdicts and can themselves be punished by the law so there's actually more due process involved than under what you appear to be describing especially re: Rodney King.
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Yo, that Gervais special was some blatantly bigoted, unfunny shit. If you thought that was funny...
:neogaf I KNEW it!
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there's nothing straighter than sucking your homie to completion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1tzr0n_Usk
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Yo, that Gervais special was some blatantly bigoted, unfunny shit. If you thought that was funny...
:neogaf I KNEW it!
“Wow how did I know mocking trans people and comparing SRS to trying to change your species would be insulting to a trans person?!”
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last time gervais was funny was when garry shandling stomped on his balls
I remember that and it was bruuuuuuuutal.
That was something Gervais himself produced, right? I'm almost surprised he didn't just burn the footage.
Gervais thought it was hilarious. I've read some people suggest it was not entirely serious at first, that Shandling was just going to do something semi-hostile/frustrated as an interview subject but Gervais didn't know what. IIRC it's when Gervais won't stop giggling and stuff that Shandling makes it real. :lol
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Yo, that Gervais special was some blatantly bigoted, unfunny shit. If you thought that was funny...
:neogaf I KNEW it!
“Wow how did I know mocking trans people and comparing SRS to trying to change your species would be insulting to a trans person?!”
Because obviously that was a serious and direct comparison. You boring humorless fuck.
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Yo, that Gervais special was some blatantly bigoted, unfunny shit. If you thought that was funny...
:neogaf I KNEW it!
“Wow how did I know mocking trans people and comparing SRS to trying to change your species would be insulting to a trans person?!”
Because obviously that was a serious and direct comparison. You boring humorless fuck.
Okay Optimus, you comedy genius you, why don’t you tell me what Gervais’s point with that transphobic joke was?
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https://twitter.com/rickygervais/status/977575798482849792
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The thread about a trans woman being forced to strip by the police didn’t even make it to two pages. Even in the new thread about Trump trying to ban them from the military again, it feels like people barely care, and are just shaking it off, focusing on how stupid trump is, instead of feeling like they are actually angry and scared for their trans peers. Almost like “pfft yeah go ahead and try Trump!”
https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-do-so-many-liberals-ability-to-care-stop-at-trans-people.31827/
I mean, everyone already knew the first ban would fail so why even muster outrage for it? The military has been fine with trans people in it for the past 15 years. If you are an asset to the military they will keep you. Not an asset is racist, dumb, and lazy, they want good people.
As for why didn't that bizarre strip search make more pages is because what is there to say? "OMG, how awful, I feel so bad, Why is this happening!!!!! I'm freaking out!!!"
Do you really want 8 pages of that? It's the same when a racist kills someone. It's pretty cut and dry what the response should be. There is a reason a thread that is "Mickey Mouse or Donald Duck," goes to 15 pages. There is nuance and subtlety at play. "Black man fired for eating fried chicken in laboratory," is going to get hits because there is something to debate. "Black man fried because he didn't fit Company Image," is non-debatable.
There is a rule on GAF and Era not to post Tvc15 porn like, "Dog eats faces of 15 newborns in hospital nursery." And lets not forget you can't post threads about black teens being as psychotic as their white peers.
You sound as dumb as Labor when you say, "Jeez, why doesn't this thread have so many post tho, I wonder" Passive-aggressive timid crap.
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Yo, that Gervais special was some blatantly bigoted, unfunny shit. If you thought that was funny...
:neogaf I KNEW it!
“Wow how did I know mocking trans people and comparing SRS to trying to change your species would be insulting to a trans person?!”
Because obviously that was a serious and direct comparison. You boring humorless fuck.
Okay Optimus, you comedy genius you, why don’t you tell me what Gervais’s point with that transphobic joke was?
Comedians make fun of everyone. They play with stereotypes, they are acting like assholes sarcastically, they troll and so on. Boring SJW fucks like you are so vanilla and devoid of an actual personality that you have to make everything about your fucking identity to get some attention and pretend you're unique so no wonder you also have zero sense of humor or even understanding of it.
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The cream re thread is a trap to shit up the other forums thread :hans1
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Cream, please give that thread like 5 minutes and then ask, "So how many of the people who agreed with me didn't even post in the strip search thread?" And check those receipts.
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Yo, that Gervais special was some blatantly bigoted, unfunny shit. If you thought that was funny...
:neogaf I KNEW it!
“Wow how did I know mocking trans people and comparing SRS to trying to change your species would be insulting to a trans person?!”
Because obviously that was a serious and direct comparison. You boring humorless fuck.
Okay Optimus, you comedy genius you, why don’t you tell me what Gervais’s point with that transphobic joke was?
Comedians make fun of everyone. They play with stereotypes, they are acting like assholes sarcastically, they troll and so on. Boring Social Studies Warrior fucks like you are so vanilla and devoid of an actual personality that you have to make everything about your fucking identity to get some attention and pretend you're unique so no wonder you also have zero sense of humor or even understanding of it.
....you didn’t even explain anything. All you said was “comedians make fun of everyone and you just don’t get it and try to make everything about you.”
You don’t really see any white comedians comparing BLM to the KKK or something.
His joke was literally “changing your gender is like me wanting to be a monkey named bobo and you have to accept that. Isn’t that ridiculous and hilarious?”
I’m asking you what point is he trying to make that isn’t blatantly transphobic and dismissive of trans identity, besides “I’m gonna say something really offensive and stupid, and you getting upset is what makes me funny, and you weak.”
You want to take another crack at it?
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The thread about a trans woman being forced to strip by the police didn’t even make it to two pages. Even in the new thread about Trump trying to ban them from the military again, it feels like people barely care, and are just shaking it off, focusing on how stupid trump is, instead of feeling like they are actually angry and scared for their trans peers. Almost like “pfft yeah go ahead and try Trump!”
https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-do-so-many-liberals-ability-to-care-stop-at-trans-people.31827/
Fucking thank you for finally saying what I haven't
Cis PoC gets abused by police? Era rightly is up in arms. Trans PoC abused by police? Who gives a shit.
speaking truth to power :lawd
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Moderation def lacks the teeth of the old forum though that seems to be by design at this point. Which is admittedly a tad confusing, given some of the current mods were the ones fighting for various marginalized groups at the old forum, but I assume they don't actually get to dictate policy here.
As for trans issue themselves it's the usual mix of fear/hate, and ppl not knowing about sex/gender differences in general. People also tend to only empathize with groups of people they know well, or are a member of.
This forum also has a tendency to be contrarian or for ppl to feel the need to play devil's advocate for some reason, no matter the topic.
I've had a couple of threads shut down by mods simply because a particular mod didn't the post. These threads contained no arguing but just to kill the thread. That's poor moderation.
If the thread makes people sad or possibly angry, they want to shut down discourse.
Threads such as:
Gun violence
Racism
Police Treatment.
Etc.
They don't want cages rattled to keep whoever happy.
fucking thank you for finally saying what i haven't
wait, this feels like it should go in the other thread since it's about moderation, i'm so confused and afraid
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he's just a shitty comic, get over it.
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https://www.resetera.com/posts/5968971/
I wouldn't be surprised to see if this site has a bunch of TERFs in denial.
Is TERF the new Gamergate? Or is TERF part of the Gamergate family? :doge
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Cream
:salute
Even though you were being genuine and honest (lol, what a loser) you stirred the pot and kicked the hornet nest.
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Cream
:salute
Even though you were being genuine and honest (lol, what a loser) you stirred the pot and kicked the hornet nest.
I wanted it to sound slightly accusatory so people would actually feel compelled to say something.
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"A certain member PMed me a while ago about how PMing the mods, even with evidence, was essentially like talking to a brick wall, at least in regards to their concerns about transphobia and misogyny"
:iface
At least 75% of warnings and bans on RE is for transphobia and/or misogyny
User was banned (permanently) for: downplaying the amount of transphobia and misogyny on ERA in bad faith
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Jesus fucking Christ
I am cursing out sweet Nicole on discord
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She said the thread was locked because of the parts complaining about moderation, and it could be remade without that!
Jfc
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"A certain member PMed me a while ago about how PMing the mods, even with evidence, was essentially like talking to a brick wall, at least in regards to their concerns about transphobia and misogyny"
:iface
At least 75% of warnings and bans on RE is for transphobia and/or misogyny
I’ve had this exact thing happen to me so it’s no surprise.
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Cream naming names. Let the fuckery begin :rejoice
Lord Brady Rembrandt incogneato are three posters I can think of off the top of my head who have been blatantly transphobic and dismissive of trans issues and the fact that they are all still hear despite this being acknowledged by many is appalling.
That’s right I’m naming names I’m done playing nice
I want these posters to come in here and fucking defend themselves
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just popped in to congratulate cream on creating a thread so bad that it had to be forked off from what was already the worst thread on the internet.
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I hope you know this, but banning people for having a different opinion than you is silly. I haven’t read the thread but I doubt they’re arguing from a position of hate.
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The problem is that, if they weren't here there wouldn't be any problems, this topic wouldn't exist in this particular version.
A dialogue must be opened about the plight of Trans people, and especially Trans minorities, who are, especially in the Black community, more vulnerable and mistreated than others and go pretty much ignored.
It's just sad that we have to have it about this website, because this place was supposed to be different.
I can't see having these people around being beneficial to the community, you aren't going to change them, and they make other people here feel unsafe.
Honestly, there are many underlying issues here to this community that it disturbs me that they are problems at all.
yes yes yes
Citizens of ERA, did you want a revolution without revolution?
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We must smother the internal and external enemies of ERA or perish with it; now in this situation, the first maxim of our policy ought to be to lead the people by reason and the people's enemies by terror.
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I hope you know this, but banning people for having a different opinion than you is silly. I haven’t read the thread but I doubt they’re arguing from a position of hate.
Era isn’t Bore. When are you fucks going to fucking understand that?
The MISSION STATEMENT and the whole point of the fucking site is to be a safe place for minorities. Letting people who are blatantly bigoted towards trans people is completely the antithesis of that and makes no sense.
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The moderators have failed, Cream must become the Pol Pot of the ResetERA. #YearZero3.0 :rejoice
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I’ve been perma banned.
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Bad optics.
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I’ve been perma banned.
BWAHAHAHA. Now if only Lion Pride would get the same treatment.
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Revolutionaries cannot be silenced, their spirit still lives within the people, The Bore must become the foco! #ERAResistance #ResistERA #SlaughterTheCounterrevolutionariesWivesAndChildrenFirst
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I hope you know this, but banning people for having a different opinion than you is silly. I haven’t read the thread but I doubt they’re arguing from a position of hate.
Era isn’t Bore. When are you fucks going to fucking understand that?
The MISSION STATEMENT and the whole point of the fucking site is to be a safe place for minorities. Letting people who are blatantly bigoted towards trans people is completely the antithesis of that and makes no sense.
You think the MISSION STATEMENT of a gaming forum is to make minorities feel comfortable. Why the hell would that be the site’s goal? Maybe that’s something they hope to achieve along the way, but why would it be the entire purpose of the site?
And I’m not going to lie; it’s not a bad thing to want. Everyone should be comfortable being who they are. But let’s say someone says something that hurts you; why is your response to silence them instead of trying to have a dialogue (and I hear it all the time on RE; let’s have a dialogue on XYZ). It’s shocking that you’re able to post here in spite of everyone looking at you funny, but you go back to the other site and can’t stand someone making a statement that rubs you the wrong way.
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I wanted to set up a change.org "Unban Cream" petition but you have to sign up for that and that required too much effort.
I truly am a slacktivist :fbm
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Cream is like if The Joker were an SJW.
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Having the balls (or ladyballs) to actually call out posters engaging in bad behavior :nope
Saying "some people," "tho," "what do you really mean?" and being a passive, timid victim :ohyeah
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I wanted to set up a change.org "Unban Cream" petition but you have to sign up for that and that required too much effort.
I truly am a slacktivist :fbm
The strongest petitions are not those with signatures but with the blood of the fascists! Theorize in ways you can assist the guerrilla war against ERA! Make sure you speak clearly and slowly into this lovely plant on the table! #LiberateERA #DefendTheFoco
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Look at the pathetic materialists on ERA doing nothing about imperialist assassinations of the people's revolutionary representative spokespersons rather than retreating into the mountains, taking up arms against the oppressors and forming a foco from which to launch guerrilla war. They prove themselves traitors to the people in their indifference and should be treated as counterrevolutionaries. #TakeNames #MassiveResistance #LeanCloserToThePlantWhenTalking
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Only mods are allowed to call people out. Know your place you plebe.
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I wanted to set up a change.org "Unban Cream" petition but you have to sign up for that and that required too much effort.
I truly am a slacktivist :fbm
“I’m with Him/Her”
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I wanted to set up a change.org "Unban Cream" petition but you have to sign up for that and that required too much effort.
I truly am a slacktivist :fbm
“I’m with Him/Her”
I’m with him &/ her
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Time to get into BA!
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I made an active point of ripping on the Simpsons writing staff for including an insensitive transphobic joke in one of their most recent episodes. If anything, I made a show of being overly reactionary but I felt it was warranted given the nature of the gag and how thoughtless and insensitive it was to include in 2018. I know they saw it but my reaction was largely isolated and most everyone else in the Simpsons fan community barely even mentioned it but I'd like to think my outrage carried some extra weight given that I've been active in the show's online fandom for a quarter of a century now and that they'll think better about milking that area for laughs in the future. Cecily Strong played a lesbian in the last episode and they played that straight and didn't milk it for comedy and THAT was considered forward progress for them. So yeah, a franchise I champion has some work to do on that front as well.
i rarely call people heroes but
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Damn now I really wanna post in that “which poster do you have a crush on” thread but it’s locked :fbm
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nobody wants to organize violence against our oppressors in order to liberate the people from ERA's social fascism? *pulls hammer and sickle lapel pin forward*
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Cream post if you’re ok
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Cream post if you’re ok
Sure she is furiously trying to get her ban revoked by someone....anyone.
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First Cindi and now Cream?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NeOvo33Enw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NeOvo33Enw)
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this is the worst resistance cell i've ever cultivated and encouraged as part of a federal intelligence operation against subversive "types"
i'm starting to think this isn't the black version of GAF at all, though that would explain the laziness
wait, is this thing still recordi-
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It's almost as if someone with multiple competing gender identities could be unhinged.
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I’ve been perma banned.
Haha now this is your home :umad
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I’ve been perma banned.
Haha now this is your home :umad
Fuck this garbage website and all the trash posters on it
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I’ve been perma banned.
Haha now this is your home :umad
Fuck this garbage website and all the trash posters on it
Whoa careful with that kind of talk, I wouldn't want you to get banned. spoiler (click to show/hide)
:banplz
spoiler (click to show/hide)
jk :heartbeat u you dumb bitch
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I’ve been perma banned.
Haha now this is your home :umad
Fuck this garbage website and all the trash posters on it
:badass
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Fuck this garbage website and all the trash posters on it
That's the spirit!
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Does anyone have the receipts on those posters Cream tagged though? I don't want to read through their post history.
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You can be annoying as hell, but you went out like a champ, Cream.
:salute
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Fuck! Now cream can't receipts all the people in that thread who said "oh my god, this is so true," and then point out they never posted in the thread about that motivated her to make that post.
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You’re all toxic empty people.
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You’re all toxic empty people.
:yeshrug
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You’re all toxic empty people.
(http://i.imgur.com/sHDdc9L.png)
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Fuck this garbage website and all the trash posters on it
You’re all toxic empty people.
Nobody even mentioned Jordan Peterson in this thread, etoliate, calm down.
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You’re all toxic empty people.
ayo holup
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Now listen here, I may be toxic, and I may be empty, but... wait, what was the third thing you said?
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Why is this shit thread stickied
Who the fuck did this
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Now listen here, I may be toxic, and I may be empty, but... wait, what was the third thing you said?
that was the worst one, "people" :scust
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Great now I have to deal with Cream full-time.
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Great now I have to deal with Cream full-time.
When you ignore someone, you're basically murdering that person in the digital realm. Add them to your Ignore List today!
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Great now I have to deal with Cream full-time.
No you don’t.
I’m going to be requesting a permanent ban. I legitimately hate this place and regret ever coming here.
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Does cream know that they're plagiarizing me?
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Great now I have to deal with Cream full-time.
No you don’t.
I’m going to be requesting a permanent ban. I legitimately hate this place and regret ever coming here.
You don't have the will power to just stop coming here? What a weak bitch
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And I was going to follow her to a glorious revolutionary death in the name of the postmodernist cause too.
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Idk I still think Cream is Cindi
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Cindi would know what to do if she wanted a perm
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When you get banned for being too woke on a site full of your closest allies, and can't take the heat or have a decent conversation on a site full of people who at least tolerate you, at what point does a modicum of self-examination and introspection kick in?
whenyoumeetassholesallday.jpg
key&peeleimnotpersecuted.gif
arewethebaddies.bmp
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I regret and renounce my belief and support of the whole trans thing now because of Cream's FAILED LEADERSHIP, I now believe there are only four races as evidenced by the four corners of the simultaneous four day harmonic time cube. Fraudulent ONEness of religious academia has distinguished mentally-challenged your opposite rationale brain to a half brain slave.
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I haven't seen a time cube reference in about seven years *slow clap*
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I’ve been perma banned.
To be fair. I did tell you that being on the bore would be the end of reee for you.
Also, lol with the whole "you're all toxic empty people" bitch, you just figuring that out now? You're not a fast learner. No one here claimed to be anything else.
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Well I've never been banned from Ree so I guess I'm not as toxic as Cream :point
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Does cream know that they're plagiarizing me?
They're plagiarizing Cindi right now with this "I hate you all so please ban me" shtick.
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I would like to congratulate eightbitnate on his 4 dimensional chess engineering of this situation.
- Invite Cream to the bore, knowing she is already on thin ice at reset
- Influence Cream in such a way to encourage lashing out at reset
- Cream banned at reset and requests self-ban at the bore
- Without Cream at either forum, other forums thread becomes that much less entertaining and one step closer to death
- Trans issues become marginalized at the internet's largest trans forum (one of nate's long term goals)
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then he will finally be able to fap next to his sister in peace
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my favorite part of this thread is me calling assimilate distinguished mentally-challenged like six times and never seeing his responses. let me guess he says beak a bunch of times
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like half the time cube guys rant was about how queers and academics are misleading us with their lies about the single day theory that leads to all these other mistruths and ultimately the tyranny of the ONEness that suppresses our free will and free thinking
if anything, jordan peterson is ripping off the time cube guy!
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I would like to congratulate eightbitnate on his 4 dimensional chess engineering of this situation.
- Invite Cream to the bore, knowing she is already on thin ice at reset
- Influence Cream in such a way to encourage lashing out at reset
- Cream banned at reset and requests self-ban at the bore
- Without Cream at either forum, other forums thread becomes that much less entertaining and one step closer to death
- Trans issues become marginalized at the internet's largest trans forum (one of nate's long term goals)
yeah that was my plan all along obviously
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How is it Bore’s fault that you flipped out on a couple RE posters? Failing to see how anyone here is responsible for that.
The icing on top: someone in the Black Culture Thread is painting Cream as a snake and he can’t even defend himself.
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condolences on the perma.
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https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-do-so-many-liberals-ability-to-care-stop-at-trans-people.31827/page-3#post-5971164
This post is something else
One of my co-workers is both trans and black. I work with him on a daily basis and he's an amazing individual. I can't even fathom the challenges he's had to deal with as a Caucasian cisgendered heterosexual male but I treat him with the same level of respect and attention I afford everyone else and I hope that's enough. I have a simple philosophy of treating everyone else how I'd like to be treated in return if I was in their shoes and it's a philosophy that has gotten me through life rather effectively.
Hey, that's my philosophy too and it really does work!
I've also had the opportunity to work a considerable amount of time in Manila where the Filipino culture is much more accepting and welcoming of its transgender population which I think is awesome.
I mean, yes... they're more accepting of it, but an American trans community would almost certainly say it's for all the wrong reasons. Basically, it boils down to "If you're gay, you must want to be a girl, so go be a girl". You will almost never meet a normal male gay guy in the Philippines (or Thailand). Every single gay person you meet will be this ultra-feminine type who have probably incorporated women's fashion and/or makeup into their wardrobe somehow. Hell, it's almost as if the trans movement as we know it in the west pretty much doesn't exist there.
My wife is Filipino and she refused to believe that my brother was gay when she first met him because he has a beard and dresses like a hobo. It happened again and again and again when a showed several of her friends and family over there his photo, too :lol
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I always stop reading to make some distinguished mentally-challenged-ass reply just before the good stuff gets rolling. Fuck me in the ass with an electric studded dildo.
this is your new home, Cream. Don't be frightened. Before you know it, you'll have shed your SJ W identity and be going fucking bonkers arguing for Republican talking points like the virtues of gun ownership and 'can you believe these ignorant distinguished black fellows?!'.
(http://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/emperor-palpatine-gif-4.gif)
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(http://media.giphy.com/media/YDcxk5LbOh3uU/giphy.gif)
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No you don’t.
I’m going to be requesting a permanent ban. I legitimately hate this place and regret ever coming here.
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/10731d457d8427c34f688e479a3ab8ea/tumblr_inline_mydbxa2Hji1sohk3w.gif)
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Wow, just close the thread, what a great and original solution SweetNicole
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Should've kept cream's thread going. New thread is suuuuper dead now.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-do-people-feel-so-apathetic-towards-transgender-issues.31851/
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they psyop'd us and got cindi to leave forever. we psyop'd them back and took out cream. when will this bore/reeee cold war end 8)
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Cindi leaves forever every couple of months. :yeshrug
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Cindi leaves forever every couple of months. :yeshrug
But we don’t want her back unless she does something interesting, like join a militia or became a moonie or one of those weirdo Lyndon LaRouche people. Guns are lame. Catholicism is just about the lamest religion on the planet.
Also, opened up DoorDash for food and this was seriously the first thing that came up:
(https://i.imgur.com/wTeM4um.jpg)
Long live Cream, Destroyer of Communities!
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wait, are we allowed to post 90s music videos here?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qY4KA2bloQ
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuoFiIFkdAA
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KT-r2vHeMM
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Ok I thought that schtick was fucking lame and dragged on for way too long but the finale is fun.
Also even if I found Cream to be posting unreadable garbage, he did register here, better than a supposed superior intellect having a Twitter meltdown over it.
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I’m pretty sad we lost both posters, even if Cindi’s were unreadable by the end.
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Do I have this straight?
Post on GAF/ERA, get banned for being too Trans
Come here and fucking dominate all conversations.
Ban ends on GAF/ERA. Go back.
Express yourself without filter like The Bore allows.
Get permed.
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Do I have this straight?
Post on GAF/ERA, get banned for being too Trans
Come here and fucking dominate all conversations.
Ban ends on GAF/ERA. Go back.
Express yourself without filter like The Bore allows.
Get permed.
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https://youtu.be/sjcuXdzO0vk
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I suppose even Thanos failed at the end.
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I suppose even Thanos failed at the end.
WOW. SPOILERS.
MODS PLS
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Darkseid didn't pussy out due to weird inadequacy issues when he finally obtained the Anti-Life Equation, he even factored in Batman not only breaking his gun rule but surviving the Omega Sanction :mynicca
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ResetEra mods:
(http://img.diply.com/article-images/a/a68ae617-c0bd-4c22-9d4a-5706326e65bb.gif?impolicy=desktop)
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Thanos even pussied out and had his wiping out half the universe reversed, and was doing it all out of misguided love. :scust :exxy :nope
Darkseid IS. DIE FOR DARKSEID. :aah :rejoice :ohyeah
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Where the girls at ? :doge
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please ban me in solidarity with cream
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Where the girls at ? :doge
with dicks or without?
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please ban me in solidarity with cream
Hey. Hey now. Bring the girls and we'll be fine.
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Where the girls at ? :doge
yo, i got you fam
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel_dc/images/7/79/Grail_%28Prime_Earth%29_002.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/591?cb=20150509022838)
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please ban me in solidarity with cream
i would miss you
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please ban benji in solidarity with curly
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Fuck this garbage website and all the trash posters on it
Dennis doesn't post here any more.
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Whatever hentai cream posts to get banned is probably gonna be real interesting, given her avatar history
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Imagine being so militantly trans that Sweet Nicole considers you a bad poster
At least Cream his alt stil
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Thanos even pussied out and had his wiping out half the universe reversed, and was doing it all out of misguided love. :scust :exxy :nope
Darkseid IS. DIE FOR DARKSEID. :aah :rejoice :ohyeah
self=dark side
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btw ya'll cindi/cream truthers are legit distinguished mentally-challenged
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You can't be blatantly breaking posting rules on a consistent basis and act like shit bool though either
(https://i.giphy.com/media/tLql6mMHC6wvK/giphy.gif)
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I’ve been perma banned.
Ahahahahaha.
You've been upgraded from Shemale to whichever He/She you prefer. Congratulations. The Bore has officially corrupted you into being banned from NuGAF.
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Come on Cream – pretending you hate us and are never coming back isn't going to get you unbanned from ERA.
Come home, Cream. Come home.
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Great now I have to deal with Cream full-time.
No you don’t.
I’m going to be requesting a permanent ban. I legitimately hate this place and regret ever coming here.
One of us, one of us
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You can't be blatantly breaking posting rules on a consistent basis and act like shit bool though either
(https://i.giphy.com/media/tLql6mMHC6wvK/giphy.gif)
Hey quote the whole thing ;)
Which is something that she consistently did. Consistently. I do/did the same shit and have been tryna change cause I don't plan on gettin banned for a minute.
Btw. since they're talking about us, did Cream choose that tag or did a mod do that?
https://www.resetera.com/posts/5979911/
btw. btw. It's funny how many on RE assume that Cream is trans while he's actually non-binary. Who's more woke now? :idont
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https://www.resetera.com/posts/5980996/
We should steal that emoji
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Cream is crazy going on there look at the tag they gave her
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
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Ughhhhh calling a trans person crazy. Seriously not a good look. Bad, bad, baaad optics
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You can't be blatantly breaking posting rules on a consistent basis and act like shit bool though either
(https://i.giphy.com/media/tLql6mMHC6wvK/giphy.gif)
Hey quote the whole thing ;)
Which is something that she consistently did. Consistently. I do/did the same shit and have been tryna change cause I don't plan on gettin banned for a minute.
Btw. since they're talking about us, did Cream choose that tag or did a mod do that?
https://www.resetera.com/posts/5979911/
btw. btw. It's funny how many on RE assume that Cream is trans while he's actually non-binary. Who's more woke now? :idont
My bad. Poor reading comprehension skills over here.
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The fucking cattle can't comprehend that mods don't brand people here.
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The fucking cattle can't comprehend that mods don't brand people here.
Shhh, don't spoil the secrets.
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The fucking cattle can't comprehend that mods don't brand people here.
Shhh, don't spoil the secrets.
Jack and PD already told them in that thread :yeshrug
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I liked Cream and am going to miss her :'(
Whenever #You'reWithHer it seems to go badly.
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cream banned from both sites (https://i.imgur.com/pI0BNfi.png)
aka they'll be making two alts soon :fbm
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Whenever you think it can’t get worse than the other forums thread. Then this one comes along and I love it.
I’m pretty sure someone will unban cream her if she asks.
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Is
Cindi Cream legit banned from the Bore or just sulking?
...and where did Marrec disappear to?
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(https://abload.de/img/123s3ulp.jpg)
Valkyrie pls.
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Is Cindi Cream legit banned from the Bore or just sulking?
...and where did Marrec disappear to?
busy taking care of his ex's husband's son (https://i.imgur.com/srR4WC7.png)
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Forumm waaaaarssss
*gets megaphone*
Hey everyoneeee!!! Forummm waaaarsss!
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You’re all toxic empty people.
Hahah oh honey. At least I have a persona and life outside of my racial and sexual identity.
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What's the over/under on days until Cream pops up on NeoGAF because he/she nad exhausted all other forums?
Cream have you been banned from Penny Arcade yet? They have a pretty lovely, angry trans community there.
Also have you cleaned your fucking desk yet?
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Forumm waaaaarssss
*gets megaphone*
Hey everyoneeee!!! Forummm waaaarsss!
Blast the REers. Forum wars now! :doge
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we're going to war then?
i nominate toku for chief military strategist and benji for first political commissar.
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we're going to war then?
i nominate toku for chief military strategist and benji for first political commissar.
I self nominate myself as propaganda minister.
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Faction leaving us when they made her a mod at RE was the saddest thing.
Not like she was here much to begin with.
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Blood and shitposts. :doge
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we're going to war then?
i nominate toku for chief military strategist and benji for first political commissar.
I self nominate myself as propaganda minister.
Id rather put Jack into that position tbh, with that prior internship for Hillary and all.
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Id rather put Jack into that position tbh, with that prior internship for Hillary and all.
Yeah but we actually want to win this.
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we're going to war then?
i nominate toku for chief military strategist and benji for first political commissar.
I self nominate myself as propaganda minister.
I will be the defense minister. NUKE THEM, NUKE THEM RIGHT NOW!
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Forumm waaaaarssss
*gets megaphone*
Hey everyoneeee!!! Forummm waaaarsss!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gqw1FI1hfJA
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Why does this thread exist if Cream is gone?
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He/She will always live on in our hearts.
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HoF this shit I guess.
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Since we’ve lost Cream and Cindi and already have a perfectly fine gay with Tasty Meat, Maybe I should make the choice to step in and fill in the T. Do I pass?
https://i.imgur.com/bhp4Ly8.jpg
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I’ve been perma banned.
Haha now this is your home :umad
Fuck this garbage website and all the trash posters on it
You’re all toxic empty people.
Great now I have to deal with Cream full-time.
No you don’t.
I’m going to be requesting a permanent ban. I legitimately hate this place and regret ever coming here.
Well, why wait?
And this thread is done. You guys can go back to shitposting full-time in the other forums thread now.