needs a better thread title, sorry
Timestamp?
Anyone actually watch this or?
Anyone actually watch this or?
For some reason I assumed this would be about Scott Peterson, the guy who murdered his pregnant wife.His appeal is still pending, INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. :bolo
For some reason I assumed this would be about Scott Peterson, the guy who murdered his pregnant wife.Are you trans or something?
Probably because assimilate is a dumb, hateful piece of shit and I can imagine him making a thread aggrandizing someone like that.
Funny how Assy didn't post about Peterson at all before etoilet got banished to the shadow realm. We see you, horsefucker.Not true at all but ok.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZMIbo_Dx
He goes on to answer a critique i've seen some people in here levy against him. Once again he crushes.
I still don’t know what Jordan’s peterskins whole deal. And I’m definitely not watching some incel video to find out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZMIbo_Dx
He goes on to answer a critique i've seen some people in here levy against him. Once again he crushes.
I'm expecting the answer to people's critique being the entire hour and 15 minutes, since I've basically never seen this guy make a coherent point.
Read a quick article on him and it couldn’t be more clear this dude is a huckster getting rich off of losers.
I still don’t know what Jordan’s peterskins whole deal. And I’m definitely not watching some incel video to find out.
Women are bad and need to be subservient to men because swamp witches and desiccated castles and hey is that cocaine?? *SNORT*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZMIbo_Dx
He goes on to answer a critique i've seen some people in here levy against him. Once again he crushes.
I'm expecting the answer to people's critique being the entire hour and 15 minutes, since I've basically never seen this guy make a coherent point.Read a quick article on him and it couldn’t be more clear this dude is a huckster getting rich off of losers.
So you read a quick article and formulated a solid opinion on someone? Boy, no wonder some of you don't know how to wipe your own asses.
And seriously, this guy gets invited to the Oxford Union and he's somehow incoherent?
Bear with me here, Harvard thought him qualified enough to teach at their university, he has been tenured at Toronto University, had a successful practice and is asked to speak at well known institutions across the globe... consider, maybe just consider the possibility that some of you are simply fucking dumb?
That's not a fair comparison. Peterson didn't have a father worth over 100million dollars. Again, you guys are fucking stupid. You can't even parse obvious differences.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZMIbo_Dx
He goes on to answer a critique i've seen some people in here levy against him. Once again he crushes.
I'm expecting the answer to people's critique being the entire hour and 15 minutes, since I've basically never seen this guy make a coherent point.Read a quick article on him and it couldn’t be more clear this dude is a huckster getting rich off of losers.
So you read a quick article and formulated a solid opinion on someone? Boy, no wonder some of you don't know how to wipe your own asses.
And seriously, this guy gets invited to the Oxford Union and he's somehow incoherent?
Bear with me here, Harvard thought him qualified enough to teach at their university, he has been tenured at Toronto University, had a successful practice and is asked to speak at well known institutions across the globe... consider, maybe just consider the possibility that some of you are simply fucking dumb?
Trump graduated from Wharton.
I still don’t know what Jordan’s peterskins whole deal. And I’m definitely not watching some incel video to find out.
Women are bad and need to be subservient to men because swamp witches and desiccated castles and hey is that cocaine?? *SNORT*
You left out the lobsters!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZMIbo_Dx
He goes on to answer a critique i've seen some people in here levy against him. Once again he crushes.
I'm expecting the answer to people's critique being the entire hour and 15 minutes, since I've basically never seen this guy make a coherent point.Read a quick article on him and it couldn’t be more clear this dude is a huckster getting rich off of losers.
So you read a quick article and formulated a solid opinion on someone? Boy, no wonder some of you don't know how to wipe your own asses.
And seriously, this guy gets invited to the Oxford Union and he's somehow incoherent?
Bear with me here, Harvard thought him qualified enough to teach at their university, he has been tenured at Toronto University, had a successful practice and is asked to speak at well known institutions across the globe... consider, maybe just consider the possibility that some of you are simply fucking dumb?
Trump graduated from Wharton.
.There's famous musicians that charge twice that for a bullshit 45min guitar lesson. Obama charges hundreds of thousands of dollars to speak at a seminar. What's your point?
As for Peterskin, he very well might be a smart guy... he’s clearly smart enough to realize that he can make a lot more money charging the rubes for seminars, and $200 for a 45 minute Skype call than teaching classes and actually practicing clinical psychology. Which actually seems somewhat far from what he pretends to do now.
Jordan Peterson, the new defacto go-to that maladjusted angry white culture warriors ape thinking it will shortcut them to appearing intelligent on the internet.Nola, like Peterson says, walk straight with your shoulders back. Clean your room. GET A JOB, kid. :lol
.There's famous musicians that charge twice that for a bullshit 45min guitar lesson. Obama charges hundreds of thousands of dollars to speak at a seminar. What's your point?
As for Peterskin, he very well might be a smart guy... he’s clearly smart enough to realize that he can make a lot more money charging the rubes for seminars, and $200 for a 45 minute Skype call than teaching classes and actually practicing clinical psychology. Which actually seems somewhat far from what he pretends to do now.
This is all you guys have and it's pathetic.Jordan Peterson, the new defacto go-to that maladjusted angry white culture warriors ape thinking it will shortcut them to appearing intelligent on the internet.Nola, like Peterson says, walk straight with your shoulders back. Clean your room. GET A JOB, kid. :lol
That's not a fair comparison. Peterson didn't have a father worth over 100million dollars. Again, you guys are fucking stupid. You can't even parse obvious differences.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZMIbo_Dx
He goes on to answer a critique i've seen some people in here levy against him. Once again he crushes.
I'm expecting the answer to people's critique being the entire hour and 15 minutes, since I've basically never seen this guy make a coherent point.Read a quick article on him and it couldn’t be more clear this dude is a huckster getting rich off of losers.
So you read a quick article and formulated a solid opinion on someone? Boy, no wonder some of you don't know how to wipe your own asses.
And seriously, this guy gets invited to the Oxford Union and he's somehow incoherent?
Bear with me here, Harvard thought him qualified enough to teach at their university, he has been tenured at Toronto University, had a successful practice and is asked to speak at well known institutions across the globe... consider, maybe just consider the possibility that some of you are simply fucking dumb?
Trump graduated from Wharton.
And again Peterson didn't just graduate from a University, HE TAUGHT at Harvard.
But only that it's not just 'incels' and a bunch of 'dudes'. If it were he wouldn't be asked to speak at the Oxford Union, he wouldn't be on well respected panels, and news outlets (a long with the not so respected). You can not like him, you can disagree with him, but don't be fucking ridiculous pretending he's just here for the 'incels' and that's all he has.
It is what it is. He saw an opportunity to get rich because a lot of incels really liked how he refused to call a trans woman “she”. He picked up the ball and ran with it. But let’s be clear, his job is no longer serious research, it’s to tell a bunch of dudes who feel like they have been wronged by society what they want to hear.
:dead
You're (once again) missing the point, dipshit. The point is that achieving a certain educational level and/or occupation doesn't necessarily mean that you can't be incredibly stupid.
Can you point me to that?
As for Peterson, he all but admitted to being a scammer in that NY Times piece, at least admitting to putting on a character and selling what his audience wants to hear. And as his audience changes, so does his messaging.
I'm just going to say that watching a 1:15 minute youtube video of Jordan Peterson makes you a fucking loser and no amount of intellectual wankery is going to save you from that.And consuming endless amounts of pop culture makes you a genius :playa
As for Peterson, he all but admitted to being a scammer in that NY Times piece, at least admitting to putting on a character and selling what his audience wants to hear. And as his audience changes, so does his messaging.
That's the thing, i don't remember anything like that in that article. I vaguely recall him saying his outfits are a bit more traditional now, like a three piece... but that's all.
Are you too fucking lazy to google Jordan Peterson NY Times
It was heavily linked and discussed in Wank Dad thread and I'm sure you commented on it. You're the laziest troll I swear.
Nola, like Peterson says, walk straight with your shoulders back. Clean your room. GET A JOB, kid. :lol
And changing his cadence and vocabulary specifically to echo traveling salesmen types from the fucking 1800s
Bear with me here, Harvard thought him qualified enough to teach at their university, he has been tenured at Toronto University, had a successful practice and is asked to speak at well known institutions across the globe... consider, maybe just consider the possibility that some of you are simply fucking dumb?
Ben Carson graduated from Yale and did his residency at John Hopkins, but have you heard the guy talk about anything that isn't brain surgery?
As for Peterson, he all but admitted to being a scammer in that NY Times piece, at least admitting to putting on a character and selling what his audience wants to hear. And as his audience changes, so does his messaging.
And changing his cadence and vocabulary specifically to echo traveling salesmen types from the fucking 1800s
That’s the point. His speech too is from another era — stilted, with old-timey phrases, a hypnotic rhythm. It’s a vocal tactic he came to only recently. Videos from a few years ago have him speaking and dressing in a more modern way.So he now wears a three piece suit and talks a bit more 'stilted' (according to the writer) and basically that's him admitting to being a scammer? :mindblown
I can't wait for Assy to come back after another page or two and be all "Ah ha! I knew I could trigger you Social Studies Warriors! U SAY U DONT CARE BUT WAT ABOUT ALL THESE POSTS??"Nah nah, there's people in here legitimately stupid and not just trying to troll me. There's sincerity in the stupidity in here.
When really we've spent the entire thread shitposting and bagging on him.
I can't wait for Assy to come back after another page or two and be all "Ah ha! I knew I could trigger you Social Studies Warriors! U SAY U DONT CARE BUT WAT ABOUT ALL THESE POSTS??"
When really we've spent the entire thread shitposting and bagging on him.
Nah nah, there's people in here legitimately stupid and not just trying to troll me. There's sincerity in the stupidity in here.
Bear with me here, Harvard thought him qualified enough to teach at their university, he has been tenured at Toronto University, had a successful practice and is asked to speak at well known institutions across the globe... consider, maybe just consider the possibility that some of you are simply fucking dumb?
Ben Carson graduated from Yale and did his residency at John Hopkins, but have you heard the guy talk about anything that isn't brain surgery?
Well yeah, assimilate is just the shit streaks in an e-toilet.
Assimilate clearly thinks Peterson triggers the libs around here and that is basically 95% of Assimilate's enjoyment out of this site(and seemingly his go to way to try and convince himself he is better than other people), but clearly based on his lack of intellectual curiosity in general, the guy doesn't have it in him to radicalize himself to Peterson like the etiolate's that truly find self-worth in finding those perceived intellectual arguments that reinforce their biases.What biases? I still don't see anything controversial about Peterson. At least not so far as something you can't actually witness for yourself. For example, college campuses are fucking brutal these days. Kicking comedians out, rallying to prevent people from speaking (not protest, legitimately shutting people out with blow horns), safe spaces, etc. That's something he talks about, and there's evidence for it.
Assy repeatedly referring to Jordan P as "daddy" is quite disturbingm
Sounds like it triggers you, typical libcuck
i'm not buying it tho
Ok? But this is within Petersons field and he uses his knowledge from his trade to apply to current social issues. He's not applying brain surgery to debate the merits of compelled speech.Bear with me here, Harvard thought him qualified enough to teach at their university, he has been tenured at Toronto University, had a successful practice and is asked to speak at well known institutions across the globe... consider, maybe just consider the possibility that some of you are simply fucking dumb?
Ben Carson graduated from Yale and did his residency at John Hopkins, but have you heard the guy talk about anything that isn't brain surgery?
Ok? But this is within Petersons field and he uses his knowledge from his trade to apply to current social issues. He's not applying brain surgery to debate the merits of compelled speech.Bear with me here, Harvard thought him qualified enough to teach at their university, he has been tenured at Toronto University, had a successful practice and is asked to speak at well known institutions across the globe... consider, maybe just consider the possibility that some of you are simply fucking dumb?
Ben Carson graduated from Yale and did his residency at John Hopkins, but have you heard the guy talk about anything that isn't brain surgery?
:confused
He's a psychologist who got famous for thinking he was a lawyer.
zirs and zims. :doge
Stro, i just looked through my closet and found a three piece suit i bought a few years ago.Ok? But this is within Petersons field and he uses his knowledge in from his trade to apply to current social issues. He's not using applying brain surgery to debate the merits of compelled speech.Bear with me here, Harvard thought him qualified enough to teach at their university, he has been tenured at Toronto University, had a successful practice and is asked to speak at well known institutions across the globe... consider, maybe just consider the possibility that some of you are simply fucking dumb?
Ben Carson graduated from Yale and did his residency at John Hopkins, but have you heard the guy talk about anything that isn't brain surgery?
:confused
He actually doesn't, considering clinical psychology doesn't use Jungian bullshit or evolutionary psychology, nor does it involve bitching about PC culture.
wait, nobody told me we'd have to read a bookif assimilate reads maps of meaning i will too and we can have a book club
i'm not buying it tho
That's ok, because provided your Library uses this service (https://www.overdrive.com/media/3865286/maps-of-meaning) you can borrow it and not give Peterson a dime.
wait, nobody told me we'd have to read a book
He's a psychologist who got famous for thinking he was a lawyer.
:oreilly
we're at full fledged autism ladies and gentlemen. opps, i mean zirs and zims. :doge
i just showed up for the refresher on terminology used by incels who think college campus shenanigans translate into real world issues
i mean, i can only go "evo psych lol" and "ayy lmao biotruths" for so many posts, lay me up some better dunks ma familia
He's a psychologist who got famous for thinking he was a lawyer.
:oreilly
we're at full fledged autism ladies and gentlemen. opps, i mean zirs and zims. :doge
Why did you run away from our discussion in the US politics thread, Assy? I thought daddy E would have taught you not to be a coward.yeah, we never got a figure on that grant proposal...
Why did you run away from our discussion in the US politics thread, Assy? I thought daddy E would have taught you not to be a coward.We can continue. I'm staying in for the night we got World Cup tomorrow morning 8)
what do you think of mr free speech suing his old coworkers cuz they said mean things about him in privateBeak's, equating what a professor at a University says to Hitler propaganda is...libel.
his initial stance was straight up red meat garbaggio: THINK OF THE COLLEGE AGE MALE CHILDREN!!!Considering there's less males going and graduating from Universities now while at the same time being dealt "toxic masculinity" bullshit? Don't you think just maybe it can be a talking point to be considered?
his initial stance was straight up red meat garbaggio: THINK OF THE COLLEGE AGE MALE CHILDREN!!!Considering there's less males going and graduating from Universities now while at the same time being dealt "toxic masculinity" bullshit? Don't you think just maybe it can be a talking point to be considered?
But there are legitimately intelligent and qualified people that do take him seriously. I guess because none of your keyboard friends take him seriously you don't? Maybe if he ended up in a Marvel movie or on Hollywood Access?
It really is, and even more wild that anyone gives him validity on what he's saying NOW because he taught at Harvard, even if they're doing it just to troll. The idea that anyone takes this dude who would fit right in on season 8 of Ancient Aliens seriously because he taught at Harvard is hilarious.
his initial stance was straight up red meat garbaggio: THINK OF THE COLLEGE AGE MALE CHILDREN!!!
his initial stance was straight up red meat garbaggio: THINK OF THE COLLEGE AGE MALE CHILDREN!!!
oh, it's amaaaaaaaazingly fuckin' transparent that his fans are in it purely for the conclusions, and the pseudo-academic shit is just a garnish
like, imagine some lady professor rambles for a couple hours on youtube about how we can deduce our true purpose as human from literal children's stories, throws in some mystical shit about ancient Egyptians knowing the shape of the DNA molecule, draws a flow chart to explain human society with a "dragon of chaos" in the middle, and then says this all proves feminism is good?
"well i'm convinced!" they would certainly not say
equating what a professor at a University says to Hitler propaganda is...libel.
If it could be shown to be done then sure. 911 truthers can't prove that and it's a conspiracy theory. The trend of more women than males graduating from University is a statistical fact.
nope. do you think jet fuel can melt steel beams?
Do you know what libel is? did he single out a specific professor and accuse them of something hideous? You guys are fucking moronic. This is becoming boring.equating what a professor at a University says to Hitler propaganda is...libel.
lmao jp routinely and explicitly compares gender neutral pronouns to stalinism
but again, you don't care, you don't believe jp's shit, and you aren't gonna read his essay, much less the book
Beak's, equating what a professor at a University says to Hitler propaganda is...libel.
That in 2018 most people don't get.But there are legitimately intelligent and qualified people that do take him seriously. I guess because none of your keyboard friends take him seriously you don't? Maybe if he ended up in a Marvel movie or on Hollywood Access?
It really is, and even more wild that anyone gives him validity on what he's saying NOW because he taught at Harvard, even if they're doing it just to troll. The idea that anyone takes this dude who would fit right in on season 8 of Ancient Aliens seriously because he taught at Harvard is hilarious.
What he talks about to people in 2018 has literally nothing to do with what he taught at Harvard. There's nothing to TAKE seriously. His popularity is baffling since he's just saying the most basic and generic platitudes with the occasional weirdo idiosyncratic thing that is usually meme worthy in its weirdness or stupidity. How are you trying to turn this into bitching about Marvel movies :lol :lol :lol
How are you trying to turn this into bitching about Marvel movies :lol :lol :lol
Considering there's less males going and graduating from Universities now while at the same time being dealt "toxic masculinity" bullshit? Don't you think just maybe it can be a talking point to be considered?
Here from Times http://time.com/4064665/women-college-degree/
Last year, 29.9% of men had a bachelor’s degree... A decade prior, in 2005, 28.5% of men had bachelor’s degree
The trend of more women than males graduating from University is a statistical fact.i'm not sure why it's necessarily a problem when both trend lines are going up:
Here from Times http://time.com/4064665/women-college-degree/
But the trend is moving in the other direction.Considering there's less males going and graduating from Universities now while at the same time being dealt "toxic masculinity" bullshit? Don't you think just maybe it can be a talking point to be considered?Here from Times http://time.com/4064665/women-college-degree/Quote from: TimeLast year, 29.9% of men had a bachelor’s degree... A decade prior, in 2005, 28.5% of men had bachelor’s degree
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Young women are driving the change. In the 25-34 age group, 37.5% of women have a bachelor’s degree or higher, while only 29.5% of men do
Considering there's less males going and graduating from Universities now while at the same time being dealt "toxic masculinity" bullshit? Don't you think just maybe it can be a talking point to be considered?Here from Times http://time.com/4064665/women-college-degree/Quote from: TimeLast year, 29.9% of men had a bachelor’s degree... A decade prior, in 2005, 28.5% of men had bachelor’s degree
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Why did you run away from our discussion in the US politics thread, Assy? I thought daddy E would have taught you not to be a coward.We can continue. I'm staying in for the night we got World Cup tomorrow morning 8)what do you think of mr free speech suing his old coworkers cuz they said mean things about him in privateBeak's, equating what a professor at a University says to Hitler propaganda is...libel.
I never said it was a problem at least not yet.The trend of more women than males graduating from University is a statistical fact.i'm not sure why it's necessarily a problem when both trend lines are going up:
Here from Times http://time.com/4064665/women-college-degree/
his initial stance was straight up red meat garbaggio: THINK OF THE COLLEGE AGE MALE CHILDREN!!!Considering there's less males going and graduating from Universities now while at the same time being dealt "toxic masculinity" bullshit? Don't you think just maybe it can be a talking point to be considered?
But the trend is moving in the other direction.
Rates of college attainment for men and women in this age group are increasing roughly equally.)
Considering there's less males going and graduating from Universities now
Between 2005 and 2015, the number of full-time male postbaccalaureate students increased by 24 percent... Among part-time postbaccalaureate students, the number of males enrolled in 2015 was 6 percent higher than in 2005
oh no i didn't include slander in with libel. one is spoken and one is written.Why did you run away from our discussion in the US politics thread, Assy? I thought daddy E would have taught you not to be a coward.We can continue. I'm staying in for the night we got World Cup tomorrow morning 8)what do you think of mr free speech suing his old coworkers cuz they said mean things about him in privateBeak's, equating what a professor at a University says to Hitler propaganda is...libel.
you don't know what libel means lol
what's the current graduation rate for lobsters from higher ed institutions? 0.0% you say?probably not, you know those hippie liberal arts schools, likely one in Maine or something
oh no i didn't include slander in with libel. one is spoken and one is written.Why did you run away from our discussion in the US politics thread, Assy? I thought daddy E would have taught you not to be a coward.We can continue. I'm staying in for the night we got World Cup tomorrow morning 8)what do you think of mr free speech suing his old coworkers cuz they said mean things about him in privateBeak's, equating what a professor at a University says to Hitler propaganda is...libel.
you don't know what libel means lol
:borys
put on our autism pants and dance
Oh i totally get where a lot of you come from. it's why you guys see everything in this viewpoint. it's pretty apparent.
You apparently never come to the Mid West, where that basic ass bitching about how things USED to be and you can't do this or that or say this or that anymore and it's bullshit is the daily conversation in garages where 50+ year old men drink beer and smoke while wearing tank tops and jeans without belts. And the conversation has been the same for 100+ years.
But yeah, no one is hearing such things as "men can't be men anymore" until Peterson brought it back, despite it being a constant on every form of media since there's been media :lol :lol :lol
Seagrams, i've seen your Beak. If you don't work in anything other than a gastation i'd be fucking stunned.oh no i didn't include slander in with libel. one is spoken and one is written.Why did you run away from our discussion in the US politics thread, Assy? I thought daddy E would have taught you not to be a coward.We can continue. I'm staying in for the night we got World Cup tomorrow morning 8)what do you think of mr free speech suing his old coworkers cuz they said mean things about him in privateBeak's, equating what a professor at a University says to Hitler propaganda is...libel.
you don't know what libel means lol
:borys
put on our autism pants and dance
no, you used the right word, you just don't know what it means because you aren't very smart
his initial stance was straight up red meat garbaggio: THINK OF THE COLLEGE AGE MALE CHILDREN!!!
oh, it's amaaaaaaaazingly fuckin' transparent that his fans are in it purely for the conclusions, and the pseudo-academic shit is just a garnish
like, imagine some lady professor rambles for a couple hours on youtube about how we can deduce our true purpose as human from literal children's stories, throws in some mystical shit about ancient Egyptians knowing the shape of the DNA molecule, draws a flow chart to explain human society with a "dragon of chaos" in the middle, and then says this all proves feminism is good?
"well i'm convinced!" they would certainly not say
I can't fathom how anyone can take this dude seriously. Some basic ass talking points packaged into pseudo-intellectual words. Somehow he makes a fortune selling his drivel to people.
it's also hilarious that you're in here screaming how dumb everyone is while you can even barely type coherently
:confused
no, you used the right word, you just don't know what it means because you aren't very smart
i'd love to know what men can't do these days
lol you're so gassed bro. have fun owning yourself more dipshitWhich gas station do you work at my guy?
i'd love to know what men can't do these daysbe a swamp witch
i'd love to know what men can't do these daysbe a swamp witch
1. they'd be a swamp warlock
2. trump is draining the swamp
most self-proclaimed atheists are just contrarians perpetually on the brink of intellectual rectal prolapse
and they're doubly sore that their brand of paaaaiiin isn't social currency
libel entails irreparable damage to someones reputation. in no way did your pop pop suffer as a result of those consequences. it's a dumb suit that will fail and it's yet another glaring red flag the lil goofballs who suck him off hilariously twist themselves in knots trying to explainHoly fuck.
you'll notice he's ducking my posts that break kayfabe
he's losing a game of chicken to the bore's premiere coward smh
He's ducking you, ducking me, ducking anything that he can' really argue against.
Say what you will about the late, great wankpappy. He at least had some conviction.
What am i ducking? Sorry, i got distracted by a moron. Stupid me for even giving my time.you'll notice he's ducking my posts that break kayfabe
he's losing a game of chicken to the bore's premiere coward smh
He's ducking you, ducking me, ducking anything that he can' really argue against.
Say what you will about the late, great wankpappy. He at least had some conviction.
libel entails irreparable damage to someones reputation. in no way did your pop pop suffer as a result of those consequences. it's a dumb suit that will fail and it's yet another glaring red flag the lil goofballs who suck him off hilariously twist themselves in knots trying to explainHoly fuck.
So you're telling me i didn't understand what a defamation lawsuit is when he's in fact suing for defamation? http://torontosun.com/news/provincial/peterson-launches-defamation-suit-against-wilfrid-laurier-university
Peterson’s lawyer said the U of T professor cannot allow a university to viciously slander him, let alone compare his comments to a speech by Hitler, when he has spent his life and career teaching against the evils of the Holocaust and despots.canada annihilated
“The politically correct on campus should not think that they can defame people, slander people and bully people implicitly and explicitly with impunity,” Levitt said. “This isn’t just some internet troll mouthing off in a way that no one pays attention to and doesn’t give any credence to. These are professors and head of gender equity studies making comments that are atrocious about Dr. Peterson who is one of if not Canada’s most prominent intellectual.”
QuotePeterson’s lawyer said the U of T professor cannot allow a university to viciously slander him, let alone compare his comments to a speech by Hitler, when he has spent his life and career teaching against the evils of the Holocaust and despots.canada annihilated
“The politically correct on campus should not think that they can defame people, slander people and bully people implicitly and explicitly with impunity,” Levitt said. “This isn’t just some internet troll mouthing off in a way that no one pays attention to and doesn’t give any credence to. These are professors and head of gender equity studies making comments that are atrocious about Dr. Peterson who is one of if not Canada’s most prominent intellectual.”
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i have yet to encounter any adult taxpaying human who holds a hot take on social issues identical to a college campus leftist radical
however, i know more'n a few -- many edging into retirement home territory -- who feel simpatico with daddy p
i have yet to encounter any adult taxpaying human who holds a hot take on social issues identical to a college campus leftist radical
however, i know more'n a few -- many edging into retirement home territory -- who feel simpatico with daddy p
like even if we conceded that kids are just making up genders to be trendy and guilt trip you over risque jokes and are always virtue signalin', how the FUCK does that get treated like an urgent social problem rather than mild annoyance?
look at this shit:
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people literally dying but no, the real threat to civilization is buzzfeed listicle feminism
sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit
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You stole my post sloppier than Assy rode etoilet's dick! :bolo
:lol :lol :lollibel entails irreparable damage to someones reputation. in no way did your pop pop suffer as a result of those consequences. it's a dumb suit that will fail and it's yet another glaring red flag the lil goofballs who suck him off hilariously twist themselves in knots trying to explainHoly fuck.
So you're telling me i didn't understand what a defamation lawsuit is when he's in fact suing for defamation? http://torontosun.com/news/provincial/peterson-launches-defamation-suit-against-wilfrid-laurier-university
So you just went on that little beaky rant off your own interpretation of what will or will not happen in court? :duh
WE HAVE REACHED BEAK AUTISM FOLKS
:clap :derp
Ugh who the fuck wants to live into their 80s anyway
Ugh who the fuck wants to live into their 80s anyway
Who said anything about stripping men of their masculinity? Unless you consider masculinity to be making more money than women for working the same job and being able to harass them without being condemned. Which basically means masculinity is to be babied. Don't think that's very masculine to be honest. There being some invisible war on masculinity is an alt-right talking point, yes.
Some people are born smarter than others is very different than what you posted, and I quote: "do i believe there could be a genetic difference between races in intelligence? -yes" you specified races. There's no science to back this up and it's essentially a racist view. It's also an alt-right talking point. Are you dense? Or do you just not want to associate yourself with trumpkins even though you pretty much agree with their views?
Yeah, i do think masculinity is under a bit of an attack. I see it, i've lived it. I've lived in a very progressive town, it was brutal.
Ugh who the fuck wants to live into their 80s anyway
I kinda want to read Winds of Winter
What parts of masculinity specifically do you think are being attacked and why do you feel that's a negative? Are there parts being attacked that you think are positives?Of course there's positives. Fat bastards in position of power shouldn't be able to jerk off in a bush in front of some woman because he can't stick his dick in her.
Genetics play a part in determining intelligence? Stop the fucking presses.But this has been controversial :yeshrug
Jordan Peterson truly has some groundbreaking ideas :rejoice
Yeah, i do think masculinity is under a bit of an attack. I see it, i've lived it. I've lived in a very progressive town, it was brutal.
Of course not, jesus. 4chan translated into reality? Come on man
I've lived in both and nope. Dumb internet battles in general, be they very woke tumblr or pissbaby 4chan almost never translate into real life like that
Yeah, i do think masculinity is under a bit of an attack. I see it, i've lived it. I've lived in a very progressive town, it was brutal.
If read in an over the top movie trailer voice, this could easily be the opening gag to a very stupid romantic-comedy movie about a modern day neanderthal who just can't quite seem to fit it..
(https://i.imgur.com/3NfHcI9.jpg)
I do think masculinity is under a bit of an attack.
I see it.
I've lived it.
I've lived in a very "progressive" town...
It was brutal.
COMING SOON
I see it, i've lived it. I've lived in a very progressive town, it was brutal.
But this has been controversial :yeshrug
Good luck. That's his go to move, half answering half of your question then changing the subject and saying you're upset about it/calling you autistic.
Oh I know, just want to see if he can be a big boy for once.
you forgot marines
I don't go picking fights with people over this IRL no matter how bad the U.S is getting. I try to avoid it even though i see it every time i'm out.this is why you just stay in your desiccated castle rather than trying to survive on the streets with masculinity under assault
Ah well, not everybody can be etiolate, or the all time WOAT of low effort shitposting Methodis.
you think jp would admit to blanking on "dilapidated" or would he insist that he meant a castle that had lost all its moisture?
his initial stance was straight up red meat garbaggio: THINK OF THE COLLEGE AGE MALE CHILDREN!!!Considering there's less males going and graduating from Universities now while at the same time being dealt "toxic masculinity" bullshit? Don't you think just maybe it can be a talking point to be considered?
i for one await the day when our bene gesserit social engineering over-zes build the last testosterone-fueled cryptocurrency farm outside the gates of the temple of st. sarkeesian :bow2unfortunately the gigantic temple's gravity well makes it an obvious target for the gamergate space corporations moon rocks
"You watch Marvel movies HAHAHAHAHA"
-63.21% of all Assimilate posts
"Matrix Revolutions is secretly awesome guys!"
-36.79% of all Assimilate posts
but clearly based on his lack of intellectual curiosity in general, the guy doesn't have it in him to radicalize himself to Peterson like the etoilet's that truly find self-worth in finding those perceived intellectual arguments that reinforce their biases.remember how etiolate would actually try to digest the information he was consuming and mould it into something singular and coherent -however unevenly or half-heartedly? You could tell he legit cared because he would weigh the claims presented to him by the purveyors of the internet manosphere and deliberate which ones to assent to and which to discard. It’s just, what he cared about was being a righteous contrarian and martyr for the cause against all those fifth columnist radicals who dont have the common sense to see how infected they all are.
I had to come back to thisI don't see the bold as 'bigoted'. I honestly don't think it's going to be a net benefited to society to strip men of their masculinity. Believe it's some alt-right talking point all you want, but i actually see it happening and it's not going to result in positive outcomes like you think it will.
And yeah some people are born smarter than others. This is just reality dude. I know I wasn't born to be solving string theory. It's better off admitting this now and moving on then pretending otherwise.
Who said anything about stripping men of their masculinity? Unless you consider masculinity to be making more money than women for working the same job and being able to harass them without being condemned. Which basically means masculinity is to be babied. Don't think that's very masculine to be honest. There being some invisible war on masculinity is an alt-right talking point, yes.
Some people are born smarter than others is very different than what you posted, and I quote: "do i believe there could be a genetic difference between races in intelligence? -yes" you specified races. There's no science to back this up and it's essentially a racist view. It's also an alt-right talking point. Are you dense? Or do you just not want to associate yourself with trumpkins even though you pretty much agree with their views?
Go ahead, Assy. Continue.
Unless you consider masculinity to be making more money than women for working the same job
Gap figures are calculated by taking the annual median earnings of full-time working women and dividing them by the median earnings of full-time working men
assimilare let us know if you need some new sources for talking points so you don’t have to pretend you’re boredHere's a source
The gender pay gap is a fun one to Google; the data to me still obviously suggests there is a problem, and anyone dismissing the idea isn't coming close to proving anything. There's literally a Forbes article where they just say "but men work more hours than women, so a study of full time employees COULD be for women working 35 hours and men 40."...uhhh.. you think maybe just find the number? lolUm, a lot. Most of the girls i knew, besides a select few took jobs like teaching, social work, daycare, clerical work, and part time jobs after graduating college.
What to me seems convincing is the fact that even with the exact same education level, women entering the workforce make less money. This includes college grads and higher education; is it possible that job choice is what is doing it? Really? Women with a college degree take jobs that pay on average 25% less? What jobs are these?
Also, I worked for a Fortune 50 where it was proven by the government the women were systematically underpaid in the early 2000s. A company of 160,000 employees. Just a small case of that surely!
Could the stats be exagerated? Sure; that does not remotely prove the gender pay gap false though.
The gender pay gap is a fun one to Google; the data to me still obviously suggests there is a problem, and anyone dismissing the idea isn't coming close to proving anything. There's literally a Forbes article where they just say "but men work more hours than women, so a study of full time employees COULD be for women working 35 hours and men 40."...uhhh.. you think maybe just find the number? lol
What to me seems convincing is the fact that even with the exact same education level, women entering the workforce make less money. This includes college grads and higher education; is it possible that job choice is what is doing it? Really? Women with a college degree take jobs that pay on average 25% less? What jobs are these?
Also, I worked for a Fortune 50 where it was proven by the government the women were systematically underpaid in the early 2000s. A company of 160,000 employees. Just a small case of that surely!
Could the stats be exagerated? Sure; that does not remotely prove the gender pay gap false though.
Assy comically misses the point of the income inequality debate and instead uses it as a way to whine about females, who could have seen that coming?You know i could have just ripped you for being an autistic moron that easily bites off the political bullshit that you fall for, but i didn't. I attempted to genuinely converse with you about your misconception.
is female a derogatory word now? what was i supposed to call them? zirs?
You fuckers are nuts
Psychological projection is a theory in psychology in which humans defend themselves against their own unconscious impulses or qualities (both positive and negative) by denying their existence in themselves while attributing them to others.[1] For example, a person who is habitually intolerant may constantly accuse other people of being intolerant. It incorporates blame shifting.You're a psychology major now or you just a google keyboard warrior like Nola and the rest of the dimwits?
Having a giggle = triggered and going apeshitHaving a giggle... you bitches went on tirade in that other thread. giggling over something you didn't even understand :lol
Goddamn what a dumb motherfuckerKeep getting wrecked loser
is female a derogatory word now? what was i supposed to call them? zirs?
You fuckers are nuts
:trumps
You've been getting a train run on you the entire thread.:crowdlaff
:drudge assimilate is never going to read jp's dumb book cause even he thinks jp's bedtime story theories are dumb :drudgewhich book? Maps of Meaning?
https://www.academia.edu/20852194/RELIGION_SOVEREIGNTY_NATURAL_RIGHTS_AND_THE_CONSTITUENT_ELEMENTS_OF_EXPERIENCEBro, i work. I'll do something that's on audiobook... either maps of meaning or 12 steps.
you can start with this
You've been getting a train run on you the entire thread.:crowdlaff
that's like the equivalent of being at the park and a group of autisms calling you poopy pants:drudge assimilate is never going to read jp's dumb book cause even he thinks jp's bedtime story theories are dumb :drudgewhich book? Maps of Meaning?
You've been getting a train run on you the entire thread. Maybe you need to sign up for some therapy sess's from Daddy P for the emotional trauma it must be causing you
My idea of owning someone is pointing out what they thought they had Daddy P on was nothing more than them being braindead and not even understanding what the guy was saying.You've been getting a train run on you the entire thread.:crowdlaff
that's like the equivalent of being at the park and a group of autisms calling you poopy pants:drudge assimilate is never going to read jp's dumb book cause even he thinks jp's bedtime story theories are dumb :drudgewhich book? Maps of Meaning?
Bro, you shouldn't talk. Your idea of "owning" someone consists of calling everyone *incoherently screeching* and making up kindergarten level nicknames for people.
:piss :doge :piss2:birb
Who's the kid?Read the last page. I attempted to have an honest conversation since Exodus since kept pestering me but after he got exposed he backtracked to "oh this idiot didn't get the point"
Predictable coming from someone whose posts mostly consist of "autists, libtards, triggered, beak, unibrow"
:nope
J Pet is a charlatan huckster and you don't really care about him.
Damn, some serious unibrowbeating going on in here.:heh :mynicca
that's a curious interpretation of events :lolThis is what he honestly believed
Unless you consider masculinity to be making more money than women for working the same jobI responded
Go ahead, Assy. Continue.
Can you show me where this is true? Because my understanding, or what i have read, i could be wrong, is that men make more money than woman on average, but it never took into account the type of job, education, etc.riotous came back with the proper response to my post:QuoteGap figures are calculated by taking the annual median earnings of full-time working women and dividing them by the median earnings of full-time working men
I don't blame you for not understanding it, it's easy to just listen to the narrative and believe it. Who has time to constantly look this shit up besides Nola since he's habitually unemployed, but yeah it's bullshit dude lol. Complete and utter bullshit.
I'm sure discrepancies happen but it's not what you've been lead to believe. Unless of course you think Monique deserves to get paid the same as Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle lol.
The gender pay gap is a fun one to Google; the data to me still obviously suggests there is a problem, and anyone dismissing the idea isn't coming close to proving anything. There's literally a Forbes article where they just say "but men work more hours than women, so a study of full time employees COULD be for women working 35 hours and men 40."...uhhh.. you think maybe just find the number? lol
What to me seems convincing is the fact that even with the exact same education level, women entering the workforce make less money. This includes college grads and higher education; is it possible that job choice is what is doing it? Really? Women with a college degree take jobs that pay on average 25% less? What jobs are these?
Also, I worked for a Fortune 50 where it was proven by the government the women were systematically underpaid in the early 2000s. A company of 160,000 employees. Just a small case of that surely!
Could the stats be exagerated? Sure; that does not remotely prove the gender pay gap false though.
Assy comically misses the point of the income inequality debate and instead uses it as a way to whine about females, who could have seen that coming?In no subsequent post of mine did i whine about females, irr i mean women. He was simply triggered i exposed his autisty tendencies to believe everything he consumes from mainstream liberal media. He got mad and resorted to the same old same old.
https://www.academia.edu/20852194/RELIGION_SOVEREIGNTY_NATURAL_RIGHTS_AND_THE_CONSTITUENT_ELEMENTS_OF_EXPERIENCEBro, i work. I'll do something that's on audiobook... either maps of meaning or 12 steps.
you can start with this
You've been getting a train run on you the entire thread.:crowdlaff
that's like the equivalent of being at the park and a group of autisms calling you poopy pants
the beak, the dog, the brow and the coward :lol aka the shitbin gang :lol :lol
Beaks, don't even try. Considering what you tried to do a few pages back
lol of course you can't fucking read lmao
If you thought I was going to take that post seriously then you're even dumber than I thought. Like lol who gives a shit about Monique?Some of you are on the spectrum and can't even get the help you deserve. Stupid ass Obama.
benji is the boy genius, but who is the kid?
Bro, I work, I don't have 20 minutes to read, only 16 hours a day to shitpost on message boardsAnd watch hour-long videos. Which he definitely has.
https://www.academia.edu/20852194/RELIGION_SOVEREIGNTY_NATURAL_RIGHTS_AND_THE_CONSTITUENT_ELEMENTS_OF_EXPERIENCEBro, i work. I'll do something that's on audiobook... either maps of meaning or 12 steps.
you can start with this
the beak, the dog, the brow and the coward :lol aka the shitbin gang :lol :lol
the beak, the dog, the brow and the coward :lol aka the shitbin gang :lol :lol
When was the last time you made a post on this forum that took you more than two seconds to type out?
dogmod mad :lol
:piss :doge :piss2
dogmod mad :lol
:piss :doge :piss2
Gonna take more effort than this, kid. :heh
::)the beak, the dog, the brow and the coward :lol aka the shitbin gang :lol :lol
When was the last time you made a post on this forum that took you more than two seconds to type out?
Edit: not the Evergreen State college guy. They look kind of similar.
Are you going to read that 46 page book or not, Ass? Put Mandark in his place by putting up.
I mean fuck, etoilet wrote posts longer than that.
I mean fuck, etoilet wrote posts longer than that.
At least etoilet had convictions.
I mean fuck, etoilet wrote posts longer than that.
At least etoilet had convictions.
so did amir0x. well, conviction.
. . .
look, these are the cheap seats
Hey Drinky you remember the Hollywood/etoilet theory that anti-Nintendo trolls were the spiritual heirs to various historical oppressors?
Looking back it feels like that was the Rosetta Stone for all the MRA/redpill/GG/Sad Puppies/intellectual dark web shit.
Hey Drinky you remember the Hollywood/etoilet theory that anti-Nintendo trolls were the spiritual heirs to various historical oppressors?
Looking back it feels like that was the Rosetta Stone for all the MRA/redpill/GG/Sad Puppies/intellectual dark web shit.
obviously you're a kid if you're also a boy, it's like jeez why do i have to explain thisbenji is the boy genius, but who is the kid?
I think the kid is multiple people, depending on who assy tries to condescend, but benji was also the kid several times
obviously you're a kid if you're also a boy, it's like jeez why do i have to explain thisbenji is the boy genius, but who is the kid?
I think the kid is multiple people, depending on who assy tries to condescend, but benji was also the kid several times
/boy genius
on the other hand, i am getting a nostalgia boner for my days as the borgia pope of gafEvilore has declared a new era of Justice!
We had at least a couple aggressively malicious actors internally that drastically changed outcomes at key moments in NeoGAF's recent history. Hundreds of bad bans happened directly against the policies and interests of the site and community. Things are chill here again and operating as intended and people are starting to want their accounts back. Time to undo some damage. Sorry for the mess, but let's get housekeeping.
Hey Drinky you remember the Hollywood/etoilet theory that anti-Nintendo trolls were the spiritual heirs to various historical oppressors?
Looking back it feels like that was the Rosetta Stone for all the MRA/redpill/GG/Sad Puppies/intellectual dark web shit.
What the fuck
Hoping for TheBore citizens to come back here. It would be humour heaven
Same. The quality/hilarious posters went to the Bore (prior and after the mess):doge
QuoteHoping for TheBore citizens to come back here. It would be humour heavenQuoteSame. The quality/hilarious posters went to the Bore (prior and after the mess):doge
hey benjiThank you Mandark.
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45505.0
You're the biggest Vagina i've seen in a long time.QuoteHoping for TheBore citizens to come back here. It would be humour heavenQuoteSame. The quality/hilarious posters went to the Bore (prior and after the mess):doge
let's send Assimilate over there and call it a day
hey benjiu just mad i got top of page six instead of your cowardly attacks on hardworking Assimilate :umad
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45505.0
ideally this thread becomes a dumping ground for whatever political/philosophical bullshit video an becomes long videos that are shit thread 2.0wait, that wasn't what this was supposed to be?
8)Hey Drinky you remember the Hollywood/etoilet theory that anti-Nintendo trolls were the spiritual heirs to various historical oppressors?
Looking back it feels like that was the Rosetta Stone for all the MRA/redpill/GG/Sad Puppies/intellectual dark web shit.
What the fuck
The argument was basically "Someone who trolls Nintendo fans now would have violently oppressed gay people 100 years ago, cause they're both forms of persecution."
I'm not even trying to be sassy by framing it like that. et and Hollywood (former poster here) were pretty direct and up front about making that connection, unless my memory's failing me in my dotage.
ideally this thread becomes a dumping ground for whatever political/philosophical bullshit video an becomes long videos that are shit thread 2.0wait, that wasn't what this was supposed to be?
You're the biggest Vagina i've seen in a long time.
:hehYou're the biggest Vagina i've seen in a long time.
You still haven't read the book, despite all this free time to post on here with? :snob
Jesus, #banassimilate. It’s like someone hit etoilet in the head with a crowbar 20 times and now it’s performing for our amusement.#someonepaypalTVCmoneysohecanbuy12stepsbeforeheoffshimself
I'm still waiting on any of you to take down Daddy P.
is there a way to leper assy so every word he posts only comes out as "daddy P"Stop being such a vagina, you vagina.
PussyNah, you're the Vagina of this place. It's been settled.
Thirty years ago, when I started writing Maps of Meaning, I was trying to solve a problem. That problem was the Cold War: Was it just a battle of ideologies and opinions? Was it two grand narratives, one communist, one capitalist, neither with any more reality than the other? That’s one argument. The other argument is that there’s something fundamental at stake here, deeper than opinion. I was trying to find out which of those two was true.
Imagine being one of those 35 members.what exactly upsets you about his 'drivel'?
I am not making fun of the guy, I am making fun of people buying his drivel.
what exactly upsets you about his 'drivel'?
imagine being a keyboard warrior on a forum with 35 active members making fun of a guy that sold over a million copies of his books :kobeyuck
Considering the level of nihilism amongst young to middle aged people in the u.s i don't see the problem with his book. Unless he was selling you on "do this you'll make millions"....
Because he's selling a self-help book.that alone qualifies it as drivel :trash
He is not only doing that, but he is acting like he is some hero for free speech only to target his pseudo-intellectual shit at college aged idiots.
i don't see the problem with his book
Considering the level of nihilism amongst young to middle aged people in the u.s i don't see the problem with his book. Unless he was selling you on "do this you'll make millions"....
Because he's selling a self-help book.that alone qualifies it as drivel :trash
He is not only doing that, but he is acting like he is some hero for free speech only to target his pseudo-intellectual shit at college aged idiots.
Nothing he says is pseudo-intellectual either, like where is the pseudo part if he's a clinical psychologist with thousands of citations and publications to his name? What specifically does he say that is pseudo?
More likely this is a term you use to discredit a guy you don't care about. It's like Ree claiming someone is a nazi. Same shit.
I read an interview where he explains why he wrote that book:Quote from: JPThirty years ago, when I started writing Maps of Meaning, I was trying to solve a problem. That problem was the Cold War: Was it just a battle of ideologies and opinions? Was it two grand narratives, one communist, one capitalist, neither with any more reality than the other? That’s one argument. The other argument is that there’s something fundamental at stake here, deeper than opinion. I was trying to find out which of those two was true.
Imagine sitting down thinking "okay, it's time for me to solve the Cold War." Then cracking open a copy of Aesop's Fables.
i went out for an entire night
Here are some actual charts from his totally legit and NOT pseudo-scientific books :doge
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYWb0qQWkAAkrs1.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/X9RldUF.jpg)
yeah that chart is exactly the sort of shit jp stans would normally point to as evidence that academia has vanished up its own ass into irrelevant obscurantism
bitch about critical theory then accept flow charts with dragons in them, brehs
:drudge :drudge NEW PAGE: ASSIMILATE THINKS JP'S THEORIES ARE DUMB, WON'T READ HIS SHIT :drudge :drudge
That's great he's a cited clinical psychologist, but he makes his money on convincing sad, angry young men that "clean your room" and "walk with your shoulders straight" is mind blowing advice because he validates their feelings with evolutionary psychology (psuedo science) and Jungian psychology (long discredited in any professional circles) and then goes on tangents about witches and dragons and shit. Plus he looks goofy and has a funny voice.Stro, you cite me one single achievement you've had in your life... it could be the highest level of education and the specific field, a managerial job (even if it were at mcdonalds) or maybe a collegiate sport scholarship, i mean fucking anything because i doubt you have any of these. Seriously, i honestly doubt you have accomplished any of these low level achievements lol
Ergo, he's easy to laugh at and it's easier to laugh at his followers because at least he is smart enough to know the hustle and work the marks. No one is upset about him here no matter how many times you say they are to get someone riled up. He's just a fun person to laugh at right now. He'll burn out and be replaced by some other flash in the pan charlatan soon enough.
Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief is a 1999 book by Canadian clinical psychologist and psychology professor Daddy P. The book describes a comprehensive theory for how people construct meaning, in a way that is compatible with the modern scientific understanding of how the brain functions.[1] It examines the "structure of systems of belief and the role those systems play in the regulation of emotion",[2] using "multiple academic fields to show that connecting myths and beliefs with science is essential to fully understand how people make meaning"
ya, we know he writes about fairy talesYou just discovered the new atheist movement and is actively rebelling against all forms of religious doctrine eh?
that's why we think he's dumb
that's why you think he's dumb
I will read that shit and make a thread where I do a post for every chapter, and I'll throw in some lies, and anyone who can figure out what the made up shit is will get a Marvel No-Prize.Can you give me someone you actively listen to (podcast or otherwise) or read ? Maybe you can enlighten me.
Using someone's success as a barometer of why I should give a shit is the same pitch I got when this dude tried to make me join Amway and kept telling me how many NASA scientists and CEOs are a part of it.Wait a decade or two and have this same mentality when you seek a surgeon for a healthcare issue.
new atheist
Ok, so show me real defeat. Give me something.new atheist
I been shitting on sam harris and chris hitchens all over this place, keep up
Can you give me someone you actively listen to (podcast or otherwise) or read ? Maybe you can enlighten me.
Using someone's success as a barometer of why I should give a shit is the same pitch I got when this dude tried to make me join Amway and kept telling me how many NASA scientists and CEOs are a part of it.Wait a decade or two and have this same mentality when you seek a surgeon for a healthcare issue.
???Can you give me someone you actively listen to (podcast or otherwise) or read ? Maybe you can enlighten me.
ahahahaha "oh yeah well who do you like????"
Besides a crack dealing rap artist who would you ask then?Using someone's success as a barometer of why I should give a shit is the same pitch I got when this dude tried to make me join Amway and kept telling me how many NASA scientists and CEOs are a part of it.Wait a decade or two and have this same mentality when you seek a surgeon for a healthcare issue.
I probably won't be asking Ben Carson what he thinks about society if I needed to get surgery done :yeshrug
dave rubinI wouldn't even ask Dave Rubin. Keep up.
That makes me think of a funny part about Daddy P's crusade, and it was mentioned in the Dave Rubin fills other peoples water glasses part I watched, how he's helping people and how people come up to him or whoever and say "I got my life together, etc."He's stated multiple times over this isn't political. Take him at his word or not.
Daddy P never examines it from a clinical psychologist perspective as to what exactly he's perhaps unintentionally providing these people with that they he has such an effect on them, instead he ignores that path entirely to see it as further justification to pursue his political jeremiad.
Ok, so show me real defeat. Give me something.
i do agree with him on a lot things. And he's turned my viewpoint on religion around, or at least has made me think differently about it's historical significance. That doesn't mean i agree with him on everything.Ok, so show me real defeat. Give me something.
I'm sorry I can't super serious internet battle you about jp, but it's cause we don't even disagree
you don't buy his metamyth bs and neither do I, and how are we gonna rumble when we're on the same side?
as I predicted, Assclown had to google some shit to find out what daddy P is actually all about, and now he has to embarrassingly double down on chaos dragons and shit.
REAL SCIENCE, YOU DUMB ATHEISTS
I for one would like to applaud J.Petes on leading multiple staunch atheists to god by telling them to clean their room.Sure, as long as he doesn't make them go allahu akbar ;)
He's stated multiple times over this isn't political. Take him at his word or not.well, i wasn't going to go that way but...
The guy is an academic, has had decades to formulate his beliefs and viewpoints but Boy Genius has him figured out and surely knows what he hasn't thought of.
Wank Dad 2 is pretty disappointing, to be honest. Different protagonist who isn't as good, a tired retread of the previous storyline, meandering subplots that don't go anywhere. And it doesn't really add anything to the extended universe. 2 out of 5 stars.Next up: the dog censors speech some more. Now that's predictable.
Wank Dad 2 is pretty disappointing, to be honest. Different protagonist who isn't as good, a tired retread of the previous storyline, meandering subplots that don't go anywhere. And it doesn't really add anything to the extended universe. 2 out of 5 stars.Next up: the dog censors speech some more. Now that's predictable.
:piss :doge :piss2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3eC35LoF4U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3eC35LoF4U
vagrajag the vagina. :snoop
settle down Sensitive Macbook Trackpad, here's another music video for your shit thread
Wank Dad 2 is pretty disappointing, to be honest. Different protagonist who isn't as good, a tired retread of the previous storyline, meandering subplots that don't go anywhere. And it doesn't really add anything to the extended universe. 2 out of 5 stars.
this forum is turning into a constant brutal assault on my masculinity
Wank Dad 2 is pretty disappointing, to be honest. Different protagonist who isn't as good, a tired retread of the previous storyline, meandering subplots that don't go anywhere. And it doesn't really add anything to the extended universe. 2 out of 5 stars.
I'm hoping Wank Dad 3: Magus' Revenge ends the trilogy on a high note.
Assimilate is my cousin and I was the one who invited him to this forum.
Assimilate is my cousin and I was the one who invited him to this forum.
It's not true, but you two believed it for a second, huh?
It's not true, but you two believed it for a second, huh?
Assimilate, what is your greates achievment?cleaning his room*
That makes me think of a funny part about Daddy P's crusade, and it was mentioned in the Dave Rubin fills other peoples water glasses part I watched, how he's helping people and how people come up to him or whoever and say "I got my life together, etc."
Daddy P never examines it from a clinical psychologist perspective as to what exactly he's perhaps unintentionally providing these people with that he has such an effect on them, instead he ignores that path entirely to see it as further justification to pursue his political jeremiad.
Politically correct radicals are now beating up on Laura Ingalls Wilder, the author of the beloved “Little House on the Prairie” children’s books, which inspired a long-running TV series starring Michael Landon that ran from 1974 to 1983.
The Association of Library Services for Children, a part of the larger American Library Association, has unanimously voted to strip Wilder’s name from a prestigious book award it has given since 1954. The reason? “Wilder’s legacy, as represented by her body of work, includes expressions of stereotypical attitudes inconsistent with ALSC’s core values of inclusiveness, integrity and respect, and responsiveness.”
To its horror the group notes that Wilder’s novels include “statements by white characters portraying Native Americans as dirty, lazy, and dangerous.”
The example that almost every Wilder critic cites is this passage in book she wrote in 1935:QuoteThere the wild animals wandered and fed as though they were in a pasture that stretched much farther than a man could see, and there were no people. Only Indians lived there.
Every other example simply reports on the attitudes of one character or another on Native Americans.
What the critics often don’t note is that Wilder was mortified when, before her death in 1957, a reader pointed out the passage to her. Wilder promptly wrote her publisher:QuoteYou are perfectly right about the fault in Little House on the Prairie and have my permission to make the correction as you suggest. It was a stupid blunder of mine. Of course Indians are people and I did not intend to imply they were not.
The word “people,” was replaced with the word “settler.”
But despite the memories of Mrs. Scott and the hostility of the character Ma in the books, there are other voices taking the other side. Pa, for instance, is sympathetic to the Indians. They “would be as peaceable as anybody else if they were let alone.” Pa says. “On the other hand, they had been moved west so many times that naturally they hated white folks.”But we know the real reason is that these librarians are striking out in anger at her daughter (and sometimes suspected author) libertarian Rose Wilder Lane due to their hatred of freedom and desire to impose a brutal anti-masculine lifestyle as seen in most progressive cities.
Wilder’s characters frequently debate what stance the settlers should take toward the tribes, and they often provide valuable context that puts the discrimination shown against Native Americans into perspective.
Wank Dad 2 is pretty disappointing, to be honest. Different protagonist who isn't as good, a tired retread of the previous storyline, meandering subplots that don't go anywhere. And it doesn't really add anything to the extended universe. 2 out of 5 stars.
Assy McGee should be barred from posting again until he reads one of JP's books and then writes us a 2000-word book report.
We already know what it's about: The Cold War and how to fix it with chaos dragons. And the Cold War ended, and we have to assume that Peterson was responsible.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZVwp5sChe0
Daddy P back on Joe Rogan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xc7DN-noAc
Haven't listened to it yet. Should be a good one.
The incellectual.Why? he was putting on hours and hours of his own lectures on youtube.
You know how I know he is a scammer? He has a Patreon.
Assimilate you didn't answer my question.I'll let you know in 8 months if i get the position i want, that would be my greatest professional accomplishment. I've attained all those other ones.
The incellectual.Why? he was putting on hours and hours of his own lectures on youtube.
You know how I know he is a scammer? He has a Patreon.
Not Wank Dad, but one of Wank Dad's handy helpers.i'm not a fan and find him really annoying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJyFDdBu6UE
elsewhere in the hollow world of bona fides: i wasted about 10 facebook posts arguing with a principal boeing engineer about chemtrails.
Not Wank Dad, but one of Wank Dad's handy helpers.i'm not a fan and find him really annoying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJyFDdBu6UE
I'm not following? I don't like dave rubin.
lol
You've had pages of nothing and now you're telling me you don't like it? Well, that is all I can find from the dark wank dad brigade. You'll have to wait until someone else cracks one off.
https://twitter.com/RubinReport/status/1012892669444419584
I like dragonsyou should teach at Harvard
Yeah, but towers with dragons and witches and lobsters is all good eh, fam?If your discussing ancient literature and myths then....But imagine being so autisty that you can't understand context eh, fam?
If your discussing ancient literature and myths then....But imagine being so autisty that you can't understand context eh, fam?
Women are more attracted to potential mates who have a “benevolent sexism” trait - despite the “detrimental effects” of these attitudes on women, a new study says.
The study, published in Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin by Pelin Gul from Iowa State University and Tom Kupfer from the University of Kent, built on previous definitions that psychologists have used to categorise sexism into two categories - hostile sexism (HS) and benevolent sexism (BS).
According to the definitions, hostile sexism refers to the sexism that is negative in nature and fits the “classic definition of prejudice.”
Benevolent sexism, however, is sexism which views women in a stereotypical way with restricted roles which tends to “elicit behaviours typically categorised as prosocial,” according to psychologists.
Examples of BS include thinking of women as homemakers, or being gentle and nurturing.
In the new study, researchers concluded that women are actually attracted to mates with benevolent sexism attitudes as the behaviours signal that a man is “willing to invest.”
However, from a feminist standpoint, the study itself raises many concerns; Harriet Minter, a broadcaster, women’s rights journalist, and host of Badass Women’s Hour told The Independent: “The reality is that there’s nothing ‘benevolent’ about sexism. Sexism, like every other -ism, is based on power and reinforcing the dominant partner’s status. So ‘benevolent sexism’ is, to me, a contradiction in terms."Harriet Minter has never taught at Harvard.
...
Despite the findings of the authors - that benevolent sexism attitudes make men appear capable of providing and protecting - Minter does not believe referring to such actions as “benevolent sexism” justifies the behaviour.
“If anything it just adds to the patronising, patriarchal narrative that still exists around men and women's interactions,” she told us. “You don't buy someone dinner because you're being benevolent, you do it because you care about them and want to treat them, regardless of their gender, regardless of whether you're in a romantic relationship and, most importantly, with no assumption as to what this means about your status in comparison to each other.
“Sexism exists when one party assumes their gender gives them a higher or more special status than the other person, if you're acting in a certain way towards a woman because you think it is your duty as a man rather than simply your duty as a human, then there is a level of sexism there.”
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/sexist-men-sex-women-attracted-relationship-benevolent-sexism-a8429061.htmlNot sure what the push to make sure women can work as much as you. "look my wife works 60 hours a week" how fucking woke of you and i'm sure she looks super swell to.QuoteWomen are more attracted to potential mates who have a “benevolent sexism” trait - despite the “detrimental effects” of these attitudes on women, a new study says.
The study, published in Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin by Pelin Gul from Iowa State University and Tom Kupfer from the University of Kent, built on previous definitions that psychologists have used to categorise sexism into two categories - hostile sexism (HS) and benevolent sexism (BS).
According to the definitions, hostile sexism refers to the sexism that is negative in nature and fits the “classic definition of prejudice.”
Benevolent sexism, however, is sexism which views women in a stereotypical way with restricted roles which tends to “elicit behaviours typically categorised as prosocial,” according to psychologists.
Examples of BS include thinking of women as homemakers, or being gentle and nurturing.
In the new study, researchers concluded that women are actually attracted to mates with benevolent sexism attitudes as the behaviours signal that a man is “willing to invest.”QuoteHowever, from a feminist standpoint, the study itself raises many concerns; Harriet Minter, a broadcaster, women’s rights journalist, and host of Badass Women’s Hour told The Independent: “The reality is that there’s nothing ‘benevolent’ about sexism. Sexism, like every other -ism, is based on power and reinforcing the dominant partner’s status. So ‘benevolent sexism’ is, to me, a contradiction in terms."Harriet Minter has never taught at Harvard.
...
Despite the findings of the authors - that benevolent sexism attitudes make men appear capable of providing and protecting - Minter does not believe referring to such actions as “benevolent sexism” justifies the behaviour.
“If anything it just adds to the patronising, patriarchal narrative that still exists around men and women's interactions,” she told us. “You don't buy someone dinner because you're being benevolent, you do it because you care about them and want to treat them, regardless of their gender, regardless of whether you're in a romantic relationship and, most importantly, with no assumption as to what this means about your status in comparison to each other.
“Sexism exists when one party assumes their gender gives them a higher or more special status than the other person, if you're acting in a certain way towards a woman because you think it is your duty as a man rather than simply your duty as a human, then there is a level of sexism there.”
Yeah, but towers with dragons and witches and lobsters is all good eh, fam?If your discussing ancient literature and myths then....But imagine being so autisty that you can't understand context eh, fam?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DhJEIwbU8AUddsP.jpg)That's actually a pretty cool picture :obama
While you were Communist Party-ing, I was studying the blade...
Rubin must be so smart, he was invited to speak at Oxford. Checkmate, boretards.
So Jordan Peterson also spoke at the Oxford Union as well as Dave Rubin. So you do get a Wank Dad video after all.I posed that already, breh. And it's a good one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZMIbo_DxJk
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I don't normally link to ground zero of JP fandom, but the thread referenced above is pro-click:
https://np.reddit.com/r/JordanPeterson/comments/8wlhgw/i_started_a_jordan_peterson_meetup_and_now_im/
It's the closest you've been to a vagina in a long time, though.i live with my gf.
It's the closest you've been to a vagina in a long time, though.i live with my gf.
try harder.
It's the closest you've been to a vagina in a long time, though.i live with my gf.
try harder.
It's the closest you've been to a vagina in a long time, though.i live with my gf.
try harder.
You live with your girlfriend but still cyberstalk and obsess over all of your exes on facebook?
Well adjusted peopleand we have those on TheBore?
What a plot twist that Assimilate reveals himself to be an obsessive malcontent that hasn't even read any of Peterson's work. It's almost too poetic.You're trying too hard. It's not a good look.
Dillahunty obliterated him in that debate. I wasn't reading the wank dad thread at the time, but I imagine etiolate thought Daddy P held his own?
Dillahunty obliterated him in that debate. I wasn't reading the wank dad thread at the time, but I imagine etiolate thought Daddy P held his own?
::)
As usual i went in for an annihilation and came out disappointed. This was akin to the Sam Harris debate where things get a bit bogged down and went nowhere. If you can point out where this "obliteration" occurred please do share, share some time stamps because i didn't see any.
It's the closest you've been to a vagina in a long time, though.i live with my gf.
try harder.
Only that's not what he said now is it? https://youtu.be/FmH7JUeVQb8?t=1122
the part where your boy said that magic shrooms prove the existence of god
:lol
Assimilate is a philosophy expert now.
:lol
:lol
Assimilate is a philosophy expert now.
:lol
You fools are lost, just staring at shadows on the wall—unlike Assimilate, who’s staring at YouTube videos on the laptop screen because he’s illiterate. Y kant Assimilate read??
:lol
Assimilate is a philosophy expert now.
:lol
seriously tho does your gf pay rentI'm sorry i'm not comfortable answering too many personal questions with benji lurking around
What a plot twist that Assimilate reveals himself to be an obsessive malcontent that hasn't even read any of Peterson's work. It's almost too poetic.
:lol
Assimilate is a philosophy expert now.
:lol
You fools are lost, just staring at shadows on the wall—unlike Assimilate, who’s staring at YouTube videos on the laptop screen because he’s illiterate. Y kant Assimilate read??:lol
Assimilate is a philosophy expert now.
:lol
Absolutely not but i at least at minimum listen to what is being said. You guys don't even do that. You're so used to hot takes and clickbait that you go for certain cues to run with. You don't actually try to get the point of what is being said.
Meh it's pretty damn obvious at this point that dude is a dumbass and a crypto fash, stop listening to him/giving him money. :derp
:lolBro i just listened to this debate. He didn't avoid anything. It was a pretty crappy debate overall, with Dillahunty just regurgitating the typical 'secular humanist' stance of
dude, actually no. He earnestly used magic mushrooms as evidence of god. Not to interpret myths, or explore shared culture, or whatever excuse you made for him. That was his evidence for god. That was just one example. Unlike you, apparently, I don't enjoy putting myself through the misery of watching Kermit Daddy speak, so unfortunately I will not be giving you timestamps. He meandered and avoided Dillahunty the entire debate, just like you are doing now. But, as has been pointed out, you don't believe in any of Daddy's pseudo-intellectual drivel, you are not a true believer like Etoilet. You just take the contrarian stance to whatever you see as the status quo on the board and get drunk on your weasely sidekick's likes.
:ufup
. Philosophy is a dead and worthless field.This is basically what Dawkins and Sam Harris used to say. But even Harris has started to change his viewpoint, mainly because of the implications of A.I but anyways.
Assimilate, if you were thoroughly impressed by Peterson's defense of the "mystical" (in quotes because like with many words, Peterson doesn't use them to mean things in the conventional sense that words mean things) experience with mushrooms, then I'm curious what you think about his argument that it's impossible to be a "true" atheist without murdering people and that all people who claim to be atheists are actually secret Christians?That's a good question Oblivion, rarely do you or anyone ever ask an actual question debated on one of these things.
Assimilate, if you were thoroughly impressed by Peterson's defense of the "mystical" (in quotes because like with many words, Peterson doesn't use them to mean things in the conventional sense that words mean things) experience with mushrooms, then I'm curious what you think about his argument that it's impossible to be a "true" atheist without murdering people and that all people who claim to be atheists are actually secret Christians?That's a good question Oblivion, rarely do you or anyone ever ask an actual question debated on one of these things.
I don't know what to think about that yet. I can say that before i'd be one to immediately laugh it off as preposterous but Peterson makes a convincing argument.
Because, you know, it's hard to say since i am a product of western culture, and despite me not ever enjoying religion as a kid i did believe in god as a child. So how can i say i'm a true atheist in the sense that Peterson says i'm not? I don't know.
There are no cultures out there without religion or an idea of 'god' as he says 'standing on the shoulders of giants'. There are cultures that have tried to be godless, forcefully, and that didn't go well, we know that. And there's places like Scandinavia that is very secular, but they still come from Christianity and a lot of values and morals were derived from religion.
The problem with Dillahunty's stance is that he thinks people are reasonable and care about his wellbeing. I wouldn't be so sure of that, like Peterson isn't. The argument in that case isn't someone irrationally walking up to him and just chopping his fucking head off just cuz, but if there was a reason for it and it could be justified reasonably outside of his wellbeing would they do it? I think they would.
Does that make sense?
ok? If i understand Peterson correctly, and Christianity in general, it was the first major religion to put the emphasis on the self, and the intrinsic value of ones "soul".Assimilate, if you were thoroughly impressed by Peterson's defense of the "mystical" (in quotes because like with many words, Peterson doesn't use them to mean things in the conventional sense that words mean things) experience with mushrooms, then I'm curious what you think about his argument that it's impossible to be a "true" atheist without murdering people and that all people who claim to be atheists are actually secret Christians?That's a good question Oblivion, rarely do you or anyone ever ask an actual question debated on one of these things.
I don't know what to think about that yet. I can say that before i'd be one to immediately laugh it off as preposterous but Peterson makes a convincing argument.
Because, you know, it's hard to say since i am a product of western culture, and despite me not ever enjoying religion as a kid i did believe in god as a child. So how can i say i'm a true atheist in the sense that Peterson says i'm not? I don't know.
There are no cultures out there without religion or an idea of 'god' as he says 'standing on the shoulders of giants'. There are cultures that have tried to be godless, forcefully, and that didn't go well, we know that. And there's places like Scandinavia that is very secular, but they still come from Christianity and a lot of values and morals were derived from religion.
The problem with Dillahunty's stance is that he thinks people are reasonable and care about his wellbeing. I wouldn't be so sure of that, like Peterson isn't. The argument in that case isn't someone irrationally walking up to him and just chopping his fucking head off just cuz, but if there was a reason for it and it could be justified reasonably outside of his wellbeing would they do it? I think they would.
Does that make sense?
But the thing is, Christianity didn't come up with the idea of "murdering people is bad". This has been a thing since fricken Hammurabi. Not to mention that Christians have been quite terrible at following their own advice, as the Inquisition, Native American genocides, and hundreds of years of slavery have demonstrated.
Much like Peterson's own teachings, if you take out all the goofy esoterics and leave the good stuff, you're left with simple, common-sense platitudes that have existed for millenia, such as "clean your room" and "don't murder people."Even if that were the case, what's the problem? He's made it clear who the book is for.
I hope you don't need someone to say "clean your room", and "walk with your shoulders back" when you're a grown ass man.
I hope you don't need someone to say "clean your room", and "walk with your shoulders back" when you're a grown ass man.
No, but apparently you do.
:neogaf
I hope you don't need someone to say "clean your room", and "walk with your shoulders back" when you're a grown ass man.
No, but apparently you do.
:neogaf
:snore
i'm going to sleep. keep trying.
I hope you don't need someone to say "clean your room", and "walk with your shoulders back" when you're a grown ass man.
I just purchased the 12 steps audiobook
Peterson sees the concept of natural rights as arising inevitably from Christian theology, specifically the idea that all people have "sovereignty" under the Christian God, and that this is a continuation of the democratization of classical Egyptian religion, which began as investing divinity only into the pharaohs and then gradually expanded spiritual value to some other classes of society.
Much like Peterson's own teachings, if you take out all the goofy esoterics and leave the good stuff, you're left with simple, common-sense platitudes that have existed for millenia, such as "clean your room" and "don't murder people."
I hope you don't need someone to say "clean your room", and "walk with your shoulders back" when you're a grown ass man.
No, but apparently you do.
:neogaf
:snore
i'm going to sleep. keep trying.
Assimilate:Quote from: AssimilateI hope you don't need someone to say "clean your room", and "walk with your shoulders back" when you're a grown ass man.
Also Assimilate:Quote from: AssimilateI just purchased the 12 steps audiobook
:neogaf
I once saw this guy on the bus. Cargo shorts, animu silk-screen shirt, long white socks, sneakers with velcro.You'll always get weirdos like that on both sides. It's like the occupy wall street movement, you ended up with a bunch of jobless hippies singing songs and snapping fingers.
He was reading Atlas Shrugged. A girl sat near him, he kept talking to her about the book, without her wanting him to.
She eventually pushed the stop button, got up, walked towards the front of the bus and sat back down.
I feel like that guy is probably deep in to Peterson.
...there hasn’t been a philosopher worth bothering with since, like Russell, Sartre, Popper, maybe Wittgenstein, maybe Camus.youre on record speaking approvingly of Foucault so I know you don’t actually believe this.
ok? If i understand Peterson correctly, and Christianity in general, it was the first major religion to put the emphasis on the self, and the intrinsic value of ones "soul".”Christianity is essentially a religion of individualism” is a claim that is obviously too broad and sweeping to accurately describe the core of something practiced/believed on six continents for ~2000 years by billions of people, alive (the quick?) and dead. If anything, it’s a common caricature of the type of reformed Presbyterianism that Peterson himself grew up in, that, for my money, he’s projecting across time and space to justify being a cold warrior in the year of our lord 2018.
For someone who screams about Marxism all the time the Crank Dad sure seems to like his Hegelian dialectic.he needs reason to work itself out in history (through a Darwinian pruning, just of culture instead of physiology) in order to gripe about all this stored up latent knowledge that’s being trod upon. The end of history gives you a view that’s oddly just as utopian as the not-really-marxists that you’re shadowboxing.
...there hasn’t been a philosopher worth bothering with since, like Russell, Sartre, Popper, maybe Wittgenstein, maybe Camus.youre on record speaking approvingly of Foucault so I know you don’t actually believe this.
Crappy ass Foucault? Where you learn in almost every single introductory writing and philosophy class in Univ GTFO You wanna discuss Panopticon next? :lol...there hasn’t been a philosopher worth bothering with since, like Russell, Sartre, Popper, maybe Wittgenstein, maybe Camus.youre on record speaking approvingly of Foucault so I know you don’t actually believe this.
Kinda slipped my mind. The kinda is because although I do like a lot of his stuff, I often question the ultimate value of much of it.
And besides, Assimilate is way too dumb to grok that. He wouldn’t even be able to handle it in YouTube form.
why would you teach Foucault in an introductory writing course?
Daddy P's beef is with Derrida anyway. Even though Foucault was the Marxist.
There is a reason they teach Foucault in class and not Cranky P.I don't remember why it was taught in writing but it was (if i remember correctly) because funny enough i wrote a paper on Foucault. i think it was based on Panopticon and i applied it to the movie The Matrix :D :lol
You wanna discuss Panopticon next?Sure. With lush texture and a chorus that's equal parts beautiful and kick-ass, Billy Corgan proved that he could still deliver the unique, soaring rock anthems Smashing Pumpkins has always been known for. Oceania in general represents a hard u-turn from the heavier Machina and Zeitgeist, successfully putting a Corgan spin on the newer alt rock style popularized by bands like Interpol. Panopticon is the hardest hitting track, lurching forward with urgency toward a breathtaking climax. A must listen for any Smashing Pumpkins fan.
Foucault? Where you learn in almost every single introductory writing
I unno, we did Foucault in writing class too
I unno, we did Foucault in writing class too
Really? Any idea why?
I unno, we did Foucault in writing class too
Really? Any idea why?
The book that we used had a bunch of essays by different writers and we had to write essays about those essays. The Foucault one was an essay about writing. It was the most boring shit.
Also, this is filler
https://youtu.be/X-Y6YfDBmh8
He advocated for individual and economic freedoms, the separation of church and state, freedom of expression, equal rights for women, the right to divorce, and the decriminalising of homosexual acts.[6][7] He called for the abolition of slavery, of the death penalty, and of physical punishment, including that of children.[8] He has also become known as an early advocate of animal rights.
this isn’t true
[foucault, who] you learn in almost every single introductory...philosophy class in Univ?
Even though Foucault was the Marxist.He was as much of a Marxist as you had to be in 60s/70s France. Which is to say, engaging with Marx academically like you would Hume or whoever, without having to be an actual, you know, commie. I have a hard time considering his politics were meaningfully Marxist given:
Jake, does your company offer policies that can be cashed out even in the event of a suicideOnly if you consider purgatory to be a benefit.
Everyone is responsible for his life before God who has given it to him. It is God who remains the sovereign Master of life. We are obliged to accept life gratefully and preserve it for his honor and the salvation of our souls. We are stewards, not owners, of the life God has entrusted to us. It is not ours to dispose of.
Suicide contradicts the natural inclination of the human being to preserve and perpetuate his life. It is gravely contrary to the just love of self. It likewise offends love of neighbor because it unjustly breaks the ties of solidarity with family, nation, and other human societies to which we continue to have obligations. Suicide is contrary to love for the living God.
He was as much of a Marxist as you had to be in 60s/70s France. Which is to say, engaging with Marx academically like you would Hume or whoever, without having to be an actual, you know, commie. I have a hard time considering his politics were meaningfully Marxist givenI mean compared to Derrida, which is who Peterson singles out as the leading force of postmodernist cultural Marxism, only occasionally mentioning Foucault too offhanded (as if he's the only other postmodernist he knows) while focusing most of his ire and center of the cultural Marxist postmodernist conspiracy on Derrida and his work. When he's explaining what cultural Marxism is to Joe Rogan he never once mentions anyone but Derrida, who he says founded it via postmodernism.
Reading Derrida's deconstruction theory was the most disappointing experience for me since The Phantom Menace.I've never thought Derrida was all that relevant to what deconstruction became. Plus I mean the guy openly admitted to writing in such a way as to obscure his ideas from being understood. It's like he's writing a bunch of tracts saying "there's this fantastic way of looking at the world, and truth, but I'm not telling, you gotta figure it out on your own, only then can you truly know" and then he gets credit when people went and did it basically separately since he was of no help and impossible to work with.
It's odd that Marxism has completely overrun higher ed and poisoned the minds of our youth but basically no economics department teaches Marx outside of like one or two readings in a History of Econ class or whatever.
It's odd that Marxism has completely overrun higher ed and poisoned the minds of our youth but basically no economics department teaches Marx outside of like one or two readings in a History of Econ class or whatever.No, that makes complete sense. Nobody deliberately takes econ courses except econ majors.
i basically just dunked on his extreme Whig view of history
Anecdotal evidence to be sure, but I took quite a few philosphy classes in college, and they literally never once mentioned Foucalt or Derrida. I didn't hear about Foucalt until I took a gender studies course in universityYou are right Oblivion. I gave him too much created. Gender studies is the right level.
I don't see anything wrong with doing that. Though I think most all my stories are more often lame with punched up joke language than seemingly unbelievable. I fully support endless skepticism. (Except about my internet argument win-loss record.)i basically just dunked on his extreme Whig view of history
I always read these stories as you being an unreliable narrator.
The only professor I ever had who openly stated they were a Marxist was also the best or at minimum top three professors I had. Easily the best poli sci professor.
I never had the heart to tell him how weak his soft-Marxism was. He seemed so proud to tell people at the start of every course about his "bias" that never really came into play.
"I'm not a partisan, just a truth teller" partisans were always worse than any ideologues. They were far more likely to get distracted and go off on tangents about whatever was on the Daily Show recently. Obviously all Democrats, but I imagine they would have been just as bad if they were Republicans unless some kind of social stigma shamed them out of it.
My favorite teacher was my kindergarten teacher, because she let us have cookies and napsand how excited are you for first grade this fall?
Econ classes are some of the best courses you can take.
I took macro from this guy named Robert Crouch, a pretty conservative but straightforward guy. He would talk about labor and capital and what would happen if there was a shortage or a glut of either one. He loved using the example of a neutron bomb as how we could hypothetically get a shortage of labor while the capital stock remained intact.
The best way to teach undergrad econ is to constantly remind the students what a house of cards the theory is all built on.wow, way too soon, kevin spacey is facing new charges just recently
Anecdotal evidence to be sure, but I took quite a few philosphy classes in college, and they literally never once mentioned Foucalt or Derrida. I didn't hear about Foucalt until I took a gender studies course in university and even then, he was only mentioned in one class session, and wasn't even the primary focus of that class session.
And I was educated in the dark blue, liberal cesspool known as Los Angeles. Leads me to believe the Postmodernist Neomarxists who run our college/university system are doing a pretty shitty job indoctrinating the student population.
BTW, this digression makes me glad I studied actually useful things in university like Mu'tazila theology, memes in the People's Republic of China, and a form of Arabic no one speaks outside of a news broadcast.
And yet between us all, how many citations in social psychology journals?
Did she dump you for P-Daddy?
Did she dump you for P-Daddy?
I don't think so, but maybe she cited him after we broke up, that swamp witch!
I'm going based off secondhand knowledge taken from family members that are academics so I may be off but as I understand it basically all American philosophy departments are oriented towards the analytic school so they're not going to talk about Foucault, much less Derrida who is pretty much anathema. In general they're much more influential in other humanities departments. I know the structuralists/poststructuralists are really big in literary theory for example.what analytical stuff is hot these days? i read some frege a while ago then found out he was an anti-semite, so skipped to some wittgenstein where i think he said this is all word games so have your fun with it but don't lose any sleep
What was the word?
I'm going based off secondhand knowledge taken from family members that are academics so I may be off but as I understand it basically all American philosophy departments are oriented towards the analytic school so they're not going to talk about Foucault, much less Derrida who is pretty much anathema. In general they're much more influential in other humanities departments. I know the structuralists/poststructuralists are really big in literary theory for example.what analytical stuff is hot these days? i read some frege a while ago then found out he was an anti-semite, so skipped to some wittgenstein where i think he said this is all word games so have your fun with it but don't lose any sleep
I wrote a paper in econ about console hardware sales. True story.
My favorite teacher was a philosophy prof.. He knew his shit. One day this douche name Todd said something to him that he just couldn't come back from. He never returned back to class. :'(
While dozing off on my Company Bus home, I briefly imagined myself in the Wild Things three-way scene except with Susan Sontag and Camille Paglia. I’ve never had a bigger erection.If it doesn't include a dragon in there then it's not relevant to the thread
While dozing off on my Company Bus home, I briefly imagined myself in the Wild Things three-way scene except with Susan Sontag and Camille Paglia. I’ve never had a bigger erection.That grey streak :lawd.
Somewhat related, but I listened to Glen Loury for the first time, and for some reason I thought he wouldn't be so bad, but it turns out he's just as awful and disingenuous as every Black conservative in the past 40 years. The fact that etoilet admired the guy makes perfect sense now. And the fact that Sam Harris loves this dude also confirms my impression that Harris himself is pretty awful.And how so? What did you not like about him
Somewhat related, but I listened to Glen Loury for the first time, and for some reason I thought he wouldn't be so bad, but it turns out he's just as awful and disingenuous as every Black conservative in the past 40 years. The fact that etoilet admired the guy makes perfect sense now. And the fact that Sam Harris loves this dude also confirms my impression that Harris himself is pretty awful.And how so? What did you not like about him
yeah i don't buy that. sorry. i've heard multiple podcasts with him on it and he's never come off like that.Somewhat related, but I listened to Glen Loury for the first time, and for some reason I thought he wouldn't be so bad, but it turns out he's just as awful and disingenuous as every Black conservative in the past 40 years. The fact that etoilet admired the guy makes perfect sense now. And the fact that Sam Harris loves this dude also confirms my impression that Harris himself is pretty awful.And how so? What did you not like about him
He's a disingenuous hack. He was having a debate with someone else regarding (among other things, Trump) and claims that people think he's racist because he simpy wants to "protect the border". He also seems like the typical conservative who blames all of black society's problems stemming from getting too much welfare.
yeah i don't buy that. sorry. i've heard multiple podcasts with him on it and he's never come off like that.Somewhat related, but I listened to Glen Loury for the first time, and for some reason I thought he wouldn't be so bad, but it turns out he's just as awful and disingenuous as every Black conservative in the past 40 years. The fact that etoilet admired the guy makes perfect sense now. And the fact that Sam Harris loves this dude also confirms my impression that Harris himself is pretty awful.And how so? What did you not like about him
He's a disingenuous hack. He was having a debate with someone else regarding (among other things, Trump) and claims that people think he's racist because he simpy wants to "protect the border". He also seems like the typical conservative who blames all of black society's problems stemming from getting too much welfare.
if you can time stamp where he's said stuff like this within a larger context then i'd believe you.
any time i've heard him speak it's basically been him complaining that black people are giving up their agency, and giving up their own self-respect by blaming everything on their ancestors being slaves.
he's also slammed ta-nehisi coates which i appreciate, considering that dude is actually a real fucking racist, and doesn't do any good for the black community.
Elaborate that the guy basically gives everything up to racism? says black america has no chance because of 'whiteness'. the dude is off his rocker.
Okay, this should be fun. Can you elaborate?
Yes, it had to have happened like this, like folk wisdom, because when I think of that era, I do not think of MTV, but of the futile attempt to stay awake and navigate the yawning whiteness of Friday Night Videos
And he had always been dying—dying to be white. That was what my mother said, that you could see the dying all over his face, the decaying, the thinning, that he was disappearing into something white, desiccating into something white, erasing himself
It is hard because what happened to America in 2016 has long been happening in America, before there was an America, when the first Carib was bayoneted and the first African delivered up in chains. It is hard to express the depth of the emergency without bowing to the myth of past American unity, when in fact American unity has always been the unity of conquistadors and colonizers—unity premised on Indian killings, land grabs, noble internments, and the gallant General Lee. Here is a country that specializes in defining its own deviancy down so that the criminal, the immoral, and the absurd become the baseline, so that even now, amidst the long tragedy and this lately disaster, the guardians of truth rally to the liar’s flag.
What was the word?
It was a place but no one knew what it meant. (As in, what would we call it today.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXTjL-f-msU
But a brand new data analysis from Georgetown University’s Free Speech Project suggests that this “crisis” is more than a little overblown. There have been relatively few incidents of speech being squelched on college campuses, and there’s in fact limited evidence that conservatives are being unfairly targeted.
The Free Speech Project’s researchers have cataloged more than 90 incidents since 2016 that fit their criteria for a person’s free speech rights being threatened. Of those 90, about two-thirds took place on college campuses. These incidents range from a speaker being disinvited to a faculty member being fired over allegedly offensive comments to a student-run play being canceled over concerns it would offend.
The raw numbers here should already raise questions about the so-called political correctness epidemic. According to the Department of Education, there are 4,583 colleges and universities in the United States (including two- and four-year institutions). The fact that there were roughly only 60 incidents in the past two years suggests that free speech crises are extremely rare events and don’t define university life in the way that critics suggest.
Moreover, there’s a consistent pattern in the data when it comes to conservatives — one that tells a different story than you hear among free speech panickers.
“Most of the incidents where presumptively conservative speech has been interrupted or squelched in the last two or three years seem to involve the same few speakers: Milo Yiannopoulos, Ben Shapiro, Charles Murray, and Ann Coulter ,” Sanford Ungar, the Free Speech Project’s director, writes. “In some instances, they seem to invite, and delight in, disruption.”
What Ungar is suggesting here is that the “campus free speech” crisis is somewhat manufactured. Conservative student groups invite speakers famous for offensive and racially charged speech — all of the above speakers fit that bill — in a deliberate attempt to provoke the campus left. In other words, they’re trolling. When students react by protesting or disrupting the event, the conservatives use it as proof that there’s real intolerance for conservative ideas.
The other key thing that emerges from the Georgetown data, according to Ungar, is that these protests and disruptions don’t just target the right. “Our data also include many incidents, generally less well-publicized, where lower-profile scholars, speakers, or students who could be considered to be on the left have been silenced or shut down,” he writes.
Examples include Princeton professor Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor’s commencement speech being canceled after receiving death threats for criticizing President Donald Trump and the president of Sonoma State University apologizing for allowing a black student to read a poem critical of police violence at commencement.
There’s little reason, according to Ungar, to conclude from any of this that conservative views are uniquely unwelcome on campus.
“One among many untested concepts,” he writes, “is whether the survey results would be different if conservative student groups, instead of repeatedly inviting campus visitors who have built a brand of disruption, were to sponsor serious intellectual dialogue with thinkers on the right.”
The pro-free speech Foundation for Individual Rights in Education keeps a database of speaker disinvitations from campuses. It finds only a handful of disinvitations — somewhere between 20 and 42 — in every year between 2011 and 2017. The highest single-year spike, from 21 in 2015 to 42 in 2016, is mostly the work of one provocateur launching an intentionally inflammatory college tour.
“11 of the 42 disinvitations were for a single speaker: Breitbart editor and right-wing provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos,” FIRE’s Alex Morey writes. “His controversial ‘Dangerous Feggot Tour’ traveled to colleges across the country this year and seemed to prompt a new report of attempted censorship in some form or another each week.”
you but you fucked off from your own thread like a little bitch cause you can't defend that fruitcakeI'll admit that his daughters recent foray into dietary guidance is worrisome. Daddy's empire could crumble cuz of this dumb cunt.
:hehWhat was your defense? I did'n't read it because you tend to type too much shit in one post.
I had a better defense for Peterson than you ever presented. Please.
:hehWhat was your defense? I did'n't read it because you tend to type too much shit in one post.
I had a better defense for Peterson than you ever presented. Please.
Yeah keep it short and sweet bitch. Geez.:hehWhat was your defense? I did'n't read it because you tend to type too much shit in one post.
I had a better defense for Peterson than you ever presented. Please.
Can't read 22 pages much less one post. :wag
Yeah keep it short and sweet bitch. Geez.:hehWhat was your defense? I did'n't read it because you tend to type too much shit in one post.
I had a better defense for Peterson than you ever presented. Please.
Can't read 22 pages much less one post. :wag
A minor update on something from the prior Wank Dad thread:
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/8/3/17644180/political-correctness-free-speech-liberal-data-georgetownQuoteBut a brand new data analysis from Georgetown University’s Free Speech Project suggests that this “crisis” is more than a little overblown. There have been relatively few incidents of speech being squelched on college campuses, and there’s in fact limited evidence that conservatives are being unfairly targeted.
The Free Speech Project’s researchers have cataloged more than 90 incidents since 2016 that fit their criteria for a person’s free speech rights being threatened. Of those 90, about two-thirds took place on college campuses. These incidents range from a speaker being disinvited to a faculty member being fired over allegedly offensive comments to a student-run play being canceled over concerns it would offend.
The raw numbers here should already raise questions about the so-called political correctness epidemic. According to the Department of Education, there are 4,583 colleges and universities in the United States (including two- and four-year institutions). The fact that there were roughly only 60 incidents in the past two years suggests that free speech crises are extremely rare events and don’t define university life in the way that critics suggest.
Moreover, there’s a consistent pattern in the data when it comes to conservatives — one that tells a different story than you hear among free speech panickers.
“Most of the incidents where presumptively conservative speech has been interrupted or squelched in the last two or three years seem to involve the same few speakers: Milo Yiannopoulos, Ben Shapiro, Charles Murray, and Ann Coulter ,” Sanford Ungar, the Free Speech Project’s director, writes. “In some instances, they seem to invite, and delight in, disruption.”
What Ungar is suggesting here is that the “campus free speech” crisis is somewhat manufactured. Conservative student groups invite speakers famous for offensive and racially charged speech — all of the above speakers fit that bill — in a deliberate attempt to provoke the campus left. In other words, they’re trolling. When students react by protesting or disrupting the event, the conservatives use it as proof that there’s real intolerance for conservative ideas.
The other key thing that emerges from the Georgetown data, according to Ungar, is that these protests and disruptions don’t just target the right. “Our data also include many incidents, generally less well-publicized, where lower-profile scholars, speakers, or students who could be considered to be on the left have been silenced or shut down,” he writes.
Examples include Princeton professor Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor’s commencement speech being canceled after receiving death threats for criticizing President Donald Trump and the president of Sonoma State University apologizing for allowing a black student to read a poem critical of police violence at commencement.
There’s little reason, according to Ungar, to conclude from any of this that conservative views are uniquely unwelcome on campus.
“One among many untested concepts,” he writes, “is whether the survey results would be different if conservative student groups, instead of repeatedly inviting campus visitors who have built a brand of disruption, were to sponsor serious intellectual dialogue with thinkers on the right.”QuoteThe pro-free speech Foundation for Individual Rights in Education keeps a database of speaker disinvitations from campuses. It finds only a handful of disinvitations — somewhere between 20 and 42 — in every year between 2011 and 2017. The highest single-year spike, from 21 in 2015 to 42 in 2016, is mostly the work of one provocateur launching an intentionally inflammatory college tour.
“11 of the 42 disinvitations were for a single speaker: Breitbart editor and right-wing provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos,” FIRE’s Alex Morey writes. “His controversial ‘Dangerous Feggot Tour’ traveled to colleges across the country this year and seemed to prompt a new report of attempted censorship in some form or another each week.”
It warms me up inside that some of you keep Daddy P so close to your hearts. I wish etoilet could see this, there's multiple strong threads going on right now.etiolate da god is watching over us all with a smile, bless up :rejoice
We got it Daddy up in here at thebore etoilet.
:uguu
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2018/08/the-peterson-family-meat-cleanse/567613/
“I’m certainly intellectually at my best,” he said. “I’m stronger, I can swim better, and my gum disease is gone. It’s like, what the hell?”
“Do you take any vitamins?” asked Rogan.
“No. No, I eat beef and salt and water. That’s it. And I never cheat. Ever. Not even a little bit.”
“No soda, no wine?”
“I drink club soda.”
“Well, that’s still water.”
“Well, when you’re down to that level, no, it’s not, Joe. There’s club soda, which is really bubbly. There’s Perrier, which is sort of bubbly. There’s flat water, and there’s hot water. Those distinctions start to become important.”
“I didn’t sleep that month for 25 days. I didn’t sleep at all for 25 days.”You have to interpret this as hyperbole, but then you'd be 'unfairly distorting' his statement. Dilemmas, dilemmas.
“What? How is that possible?”
“I’ll tell you how it’s possible: You lay in bed frozen in something approximating terror for eight hours. And then you get up.”
The longest recorded stretch of sleeplessness in a human is 11 days, witnessed by a Stanford research team.
But yeah, the diet is fucking stupid and she'll be the downfall of Daddy P
Surprise surprise, Assy isn't sperging out over Daddy P's r-tarded eating habits like he does with vegans and vegetarians.
You fucking suck at being Zen.
:umad
I'm actually very zen right now. If you could see me, you'd understand.
BTW, this digression makes me glad I studied actually useful things in university like Mu'tazila theology, memes in the People's Republic of China, and a form of Arabic no one speaks outside of a news broadcast.
You fucking suck at being Zen.
:umad
I'm actually very zen right now. If you could see me, you'd understand.spoiler (click to show/hide)filler we need a zen emoji[close]
Quote from: MandarkEh, I think it's pretty clear from his own words that the "ultimate sentiment" is him being bothered by the message of female independence.No I don't think that's it at all. He said he likesMulanMoana a lot and that that does female independence really well because it's a "balanced story", although I forget what he means by it. If I were being uncharitable to him I'd say he's really just miffed that it was her sister who "awakened" her, not the prince, because that was the archetype he recognizes. Aka a little male fragility :lol
JP sucks and is an undeniable sexist, I think that's pretty clear by now
I still did not see him transitioning into the YouTube conservosphere at all.
Correction: I don't lose arguments. I lose patience. The argument rarely exists and only briefly exists when it does.
I got naff to actually respond to something said. I explain it. Explaining it reveals how much of the forum doesn't understand social norms. (The argument started and ended right there. "It's over." -Vince Carter) Most conversations don't even get that far.
The forum thinks due to its lack of self awareness that its someone like Peterson who is the social abnormality. They go back to a life where they are ostracized but lack the tools to recognize this. They come back to this online space where they don't get ostracized because ostracization and repercussion is removed by the nature of the format. Mistake the forum for reaffirmation of their rightness. This is essentially an argument about the dangers of social media. Boundaries cannot exist in the same way so they aren't developed. Cruelty becomes more common.
A certain part of the forum I have enough experience with to not even offer the initial civility. I do this on purpose as to mark them as bad. This is self preservation and social messaging. I waste less of my thoughts on the worst and I inform in a public way who to avoid.
When I say it's bad to constantly exist in the peanut gallery, that's not just some wild random thought. To participate in certain discussions you need to be able to recognize those discussions and know how to change gears. We develop boundaries to have various levels of engagement. It is important to have these different gears. If you can only exist n mockery then you get left behind.
I always underguess the popular lifespans of these people. I thought he'd kinda float back up to Canada after he moved too afar afield from his trans talk due to a market glut. Especially since early on he was really careful not to hop into literally everything even in the culture wars, now he's even commenting on immigration economics and shit.I still did not see him transitioning into the YouTube conservosphere at all.Really?
In full disclosure: I think I have a post or two where I remarked that I thought Daddy P was getting into subjects without taking the time to study them and making himself look stupid, and that I assumed he was fine within his field and things he actually researched.
This was either right before or right after he had that fight with that BBC woman. Then he cried about freedom.
I still did not see him transitioning into the YouTube conservosphere at all. Let alone that he'd appear with Ben Shapiro in Dave Rubin's living room set eventually. Or save millions of men's lives.
Didn't you already comment on that on the last page, Assimilate? :dogeNot with the Rogan interview link, no. :-*
In June, he threatened to sue Down Girl author and Cornell University assistant professor Kate Manne for defamation, after she criticized his book, 12 Rules For Life, and more generally called his work misogynistic in an interview with Vox. (Peterson previously filed a lawsuit against a university whose faculty members, in a closed-door meeting, argued that showing his videos in a classroom created an unsafe environment for students.) In letters to Manne, Cornell, and Vox, Peterson’s lawyer, Howard Levitt, demanded that all three parties “immediately retract all of Professor Manne’s defamatory statements, have them immediately removed from the internet, and issue an apology in the same forum to Mr. Peterson. Otherwise, our client will take all steps necessary to protect his professional reputation, including but not limited to initiating legal proceedings against all of you for damages.” (You can read the full letter below).
Among the statements Levitt objected to: Manne’s contention that Peterson’s book included “some really eyebrow-raising, authoritarian-sounding, and even cruel things,” as well as her observation that “it doesn’t seem accidental that [Peterson’s] skepticism about objective facts arises when it’s conveniently anti-feminist.” The lawyer and his client were equally unhappy with this line: “I also suspect that for many of Peterson’s readers, the sexism on display above is one tool among many to make forceful, domineering moves that are typical of misogyny.”
Levitt, not surprisingly, disagreed. There’s a difference, he said in an email, between academic debate and “viciously libelling [Peterson] by referring to him as a misogynist, as dishonest, by impugning his honesty and integrity.” Viewing the legal threat as an attempt to shut down the conversation, he continued, would only “encourage the radical left practitioners of identity politics to avoid such debate by castigating our client with libellous false aspersions to avoid engaging in the constitutionally protected (and desired) clash of ideas.”
Levitt also represents Peterson in his defamation suit against Wilfred Laurier University, in which he’s demanded $1.5 million in damages from the school and three faculty members over a meeting in which they chastised a teaching assistant for showing a communications class one of Peterson’s videos. The school has since apologized to the TA, whom Levitt is also representing in her own lawsuit.
“I’m hoping that the combination of lawsuits will be enough to convince careless university professors and administrators blinded by their own ideology to be much more circumspect in their actions and their words,” Peterson opined in a YouTube video.
WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW
By my understanding of the law, and i can be wrong here, if he's being defamed by another professor or someone in academia and it hurts his academic career he in fact does have grounds to sue.You guys are idiots. That's not criticism.
When are you stupid fucks going to realize slapping someone with labels like racists, nazi, and so on isn't actual criticism. It's fucking slander. You are purposely trying to damage someone's reputation.
Opinions can't be defemation; calling someone racist or misogynist doesn't count. Maybe stupid shit like "literal nazi" could get you in trouble though.
When are you stupid fucks going to realize slapping someone with labels like racists, nazi, and so on isn't actual criticism. It's fucking slander. You are purposely trying to damage someone's reputation.
And here is the problem. The left will call anyone they disagree with a "racist" and immediately attempt to get that person fired for baseless accusations. The object of the game is to ruin the careers of anyone you disagree with.By my understanding of the law, and i can be wrong here, if he's being defamed by another professor or someone in academia and it hurts his academic career he in fact does have grounds to sue.You guys are idiots. That's not criticism.
When are you stupid fucks going to realize slapping someone with labels like racists, nazi, and so on isn't actual criticism. It's fucking slander. You are purposely trying to damage someone's reputation.
Opinions can't be defemation; calling someone racist or misogynist doesn't count. Maybe stupid shit like "literal nazi" could get you in trouble though.
Winning it or not is another matter and since he's a public figure now then it could be harder.
It has to be statements that can be proven right or wrong; claiming he did something he didn't do, etc.
Calling a book or a person racist or misogynist can't be proven wrong, it's an opinion.
People who can't tell the difference are literally stupid. Perhaps they did make statements that are factual, I don't know the case(s), but if they didn't the cases will just be thrown out.
cry more
lol you don't even read this guy's books bro
Peterson lives in a lot of people's heads rent-free. They become obsessed with him because they can't resolve the conflict that he produces inside of them.Rawr!
If you poke that part of another person that is weak and exposed unbeknownst to them then they will get conflicted, angry at the conflicted feeling and proceed to hate you in an obsessive manner.
Alex needs to come on the Rogan show soon. Not because I'm a fan, but to piss of YT and the chapodoodles.But then this. :lol
"treason"
:neogaf
Why is thread called Wank Dad?
Wait, so what does that make Dave Rubin?
The Voice of the ‘Intellectual Dark Web’
Claire Lehmann’s online magazine, Quillette, prides itself on publishing ‘dangerous’ ideas other outlets won’t touch. How far is it willing to go?
One evening this fall at a house in West Hollywood, the Australian editor and writer Claire Lehmann had dinner with the neuroscientist Sam Harris and Eric Weinstein, the managing director of tech entrepreneur Peter Thiel’s investment firm. Joe Rogan, the podcast host, joined later on, when the group decamped to a comedy club.
You could think of the gathering as a board meeting of sorts for the “intellectual dark web,” or IDW, a loose cadre of academics, journalists and tech entrepreneurs who view themselves as standing up to the knee-jerk left-leaning politics of academia and the media.
Over steaks, Lehmann recalls, the conversation revolved around a brewing academic scandal, a prank engineered by friends of hers. They had successfully placed seven nonsensical research papers in various academic journals devoted to what they characterized as “grievance studies.” One of the papers included a lengthy passage from Adolf Hitler’s Mein Kampf, rewritten to focus on feminism and intersectionality. Another was about rape culture in dog parks. Absurd as the papers were, they had been accepted by expert editors and published as serious research. For those in attendance, it was a ringing confirmation of just how politicized academia had become, and how blindly devoted to fashionable moralities.
It was also a big story for Quillette, the online magazine Lehmann runs and the unofficial digest of the IDW. Lehmann had known about the prank before the Wall Street Journal broke the news, and she had some time to formulate a response that would fan the flames. “I wanted the public to be aware that there are many people within the academy who are fed up with grievance studies scholarship,” says Lehmann, who went on to publish responses from five like-minded academics—one of whom called the incident “a Cultural Revolution in our own backyard.”
For readers and thinkers who regard themselves as intellectually curious but feel alienated from the lock-step politics of universities and the broader left, Quillette has become a haven for stories like this—and topics treated as taboo elsewhere. At times, it has drawn intense social media backlash, with contributors labeled everything from “clowns” to “cryptofascists” on Twitter. But fans of the site include pop psychologist Jordan Peterson, evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins, psychology professors Steven Pinker of Harvard and Jonathan Haidt of New York University, and columnists like David Brooks, Meghan Daum and Andrew Sullivan. “I continue to be impressed that Quillette publishes heterodox but intellectually serious and non-inflammatory pieces [about] ideas that have become near-taboo in academic and intellectual discourse,” Pinker wrote to me in an email, “including ones connected to heritability, sex and sex differences, race, culture, Islam, free speech and violence.” Haidt, co-author of the recent book The Coddling of the American Mind, called Quillette in an email “a gathering place for people who love to play with ideas and hate being told that there are ideas they are not supposed to play with.”
Daddy P has been dethroned folks AND BY A WOMAN:
Just like every major cultural event for straight white males they had to REBOOT IT WITH A WOMAN.
As a major supporter of any kind of "heterodox" or "revisionist" publishing/journals/etc. I forgot to put this in the argument with Assi back before he was killed by Jair Bosonaro supporters. It's that Quillette is exactly the Peterson, Brooks, Sullivan, etc. type of "edgy" "heterodox" writing that well, Sullivan himself is infamous for promoting at a prior job.
Where, it's not. It's new writers rehashing the same old tropes. Look at the list Pinker gives "heritability, sex and sex differences, race, culture, Islam, free speech and violence." They're producing exactly what Sullivan's New Republic was lamented for ultimately, an upper class salon for views ever so slightly out of the mainstream but definitely out of the academic mainstream that never want to grapple with conclusions and instead just continue "asking questions." While handwaiving a lot of the critiques by saying "oh, I'm on the left economically" or "I support LGBT" or whatever. That ultimately stops any actual exploration of a heterodox that goes beyond their own special circle.
Maybe it'll change now it's become popular and apparently is being well funded. But I wonder if that will make it more willing to let in more heterodox views even if to challenge them, or if it'll close it up to that squalid list of tropes.
In my dream, I wrestled my opponent to the ground. He was still talking, mindlessly, mechanically, rapidly, nonstop. I bent his wrists to force his knuckles into his mouth. His arms bent like rubber and, even though I managed the task, he did not stop babbling.why would you share this with other people
Wasn’t all the money I was making from my book and tour merely evidence that I had found a weak spot in desperate young men and exploiting them shamelessly?narrator: it was
Yup.
It's really striking how much of the IDW/Quillette stuff is just rehashing the sort of contrarian centrism that was the staple of TNR and Slate in the 90's and 00's. The fact that basically everyone doing that schtick also was deeply wrong in Iraq probably inoculated me against it.
He considered himself a liberal, meaning someone attracted by the more radical end of the left:neogaf
I hadn’t spent two hours talking to a person. The person wasn’t there, or was barely there (even though the journalist had the makings, I would say, of a fine young man). I couldn’t reach him. Instead, I had a very irritating discussion with an ideologically possessed puppet and that was both too familiar and too unpleasant.
QuoteIn my dream, I wrestled my opponent to the ground. He was still talking, mindlessly, mechanically, rapidly, nonstop. I bent his wrists to force his knuckles into his mouth. His arms bent like rubber and, even though I managed the task, he did not stop babbling.why would you share this with other people
Jesus he’s a terrible writer.i think I’ve talked about this here with benji before, a major stylistic thread that runs through the idealistic/romantic right, and especially it’s more online elements, is the complete mangling of figurative language. Like you get these passages that are so deliberately baroque, but it’s by people who’s idea of prose was shaped more by obsidian rpgs than the western canon. In Peterson’s case, I think he sounds like he’s larping Zarathustra.
:sabuhes got a shtick where he paints him and those close to him as people of unusually frail constitution. Fwiw, it’s funny and discouraging that the idw’s dream daddy is such a neurotic whiner
loved the conclusion - returning home shook to his wife asleep trying to shake a persistent cold and going out to eat a steak. his persistent diet of beef, seemingly chosen because he swallowed the pseudo science peddled by his daughter regarding a cure for his intractable auto-immune disorder.
i think I’ve talked about this here with benji before, a major stylistic thread that runs through the idealistic/romantic right, and especially it’s more online elements, is the complete mangling of figurative language. Like you get these passages that are so deliberately baroque, but it’s by people who’s idea of prose was shaped more by obsidian rpgs than the western canon. In Peterson’s case, I think he sounds like he’s larping Zarathustra.
Actually his whole twitter feed is fire today.https://twitter.com/RubinReport/status/1070518052108861440
This American right wing grassroots panel or whatever it’s calling itself is lol.
https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1071162678582874112
Someone on another forum was pinballing the idea that the French journalist had actually brought up receipts on specific passages/citations. Evidently the French academic culture is such that it encourages deep readings of texts and a French journalist could reasonably be supposed to have a respectable understanding of like, Derrida or whoever. So there was a hope that that the eventual article would have some juicy gotcha moments.https://youtu.be/CzZDed4gEHc
I partly figured these anti-SJW videos were so popular because the titles read like porn
"Superfat Feminist Cuntdevil Goes WILD When Shapiro SLAMS Her Red Hot Mouth with Bulging Words of TRUTH"
Ben Shapiro COMPLETELY EVISCERATES sjw leftists and FEASTS UPON THEIR DEAD COLD FLESH AND SINEWS with facts and logic
Ben Shapero HUMILIATES little girl by stealing her candy and making her cry
Ben Shapiro DESTROYS my sandcastle I spent ALL DAY making!
I'm on a new browser so I can finally see this thread again (thanks tasty! :heart) why is it still a thing, has a new son of Peter fan sprung into existence from the ashes of a Bible story?Look, it's always kinda been us (...me) posting crappy things in the world of the Wank Dad, it's just we had people who would take up the flag before and hand out L's. Now us Marxist cowards are safe to challenge someone with hundreds of published papers without threat.
As I am fair and balanced I will post something positive about Peterson:
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The youtube algorithm is crazy. I haven't clicked on a Peterson vid in months and I never watch hard-right stuff and I'm still getting recommended "Stefan Molyneux talks about Race and IQ" and "How Ben Shapiro DOMINATES debates" Saying you're not interested in the video also appears to do nothing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN0REjUCGlE
Chrome: Hbomb's YouTube Censorship Addon (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hbombs-youtube-censorship/djhicpapmcmjabcmkdecglggplpnmkid)
The youtube algorithm is crazy. I haven't clicked on a Peterson vid in months and I never watch hard-right stuff and I'm still getting recommended "Stefan Molyneux talks about Race and IQ" and "How Ben Shapiro DOMINATES debates" Saying you're not interested in the video also appears to do nothing.it's fucking annoying, i watched the jp channel 4 interview months ago and no matter what video i'm watching at the bottom i get the gq interview under next videos
oh hey Mandark, since you're here, you might enjoy this other twitter thread (click thru, it gets better from here)
https://twitter.com/_Herbalis_/status/1074944713663410181
why does he need donations again?Because his psycholiterary analysis of the entire bible, which was supposed to prove that Christianity is the culmination of human spiritual development and western civilization, stopped at the end of... Genesis
crazy women
why does he need donations again?Because his psycholiterary analysis of the entire bible, which was supposed to prove that Christianity is the culmination of human spiritual development and western civilization, stopped at the end of... Genesis
and then for the rest of the year he just fucked around with Dave Rubin :doge
Please PM me your twitter.
most of it is banal thoughts and RT spam thoyou already said it's a twitter account
Our exiled Peterson superfan liked to image that Taleb and Peterson are fans of one another (they very well may be, I have no idea):
https://medium.com/incerto/iq-is-largely-a-pseudoscientific-swindle-f131c101ba39
Molyneux said that because 90% of a child’s brain is formed by the experiences it has before the age of 5, and women have “an almost universal control over childhood,” violence exists in the world because of the way women treat children.
“If we could just get people to be nice to their babies for five years straight, that would be it for war, drug abuse, addiction, promiscuity, sexually transmitted diseases,” he said. “Almost all would be completely eliminated, because they all arise from dysfunctional early childhood experiences, which are all run by women.”
What's best for the children is not always what's best for your penis.newsfeed
What's that dude's deal?He hates "bullshitters" and "Intellectuals Yet Idiots". Steven Pinker, psychologists in general, Monsanto - to name a few. Can be insightful, if difficult to understand. Definitely entertaining though. :lol
I'm sure someone has brought this up, but I was always confused why when that story came out nobody seemed to think the opposing team wouldn't just leave back a defender ala hockey/soccer/etc., especially to potentially front the pass. Instead all the writers seemed to be arguing about the advantage of an extra man on offense, which I think would be less of a problem of having an unguarded man shooting and more of not being able to as easily box out the fifth player. Teams already have plenty of experience guarding possessions with a single weak side man in a zone and two or more offensive players not even involved in it.
edit: Actually, perhaps ironically, a center like Boogie gives you arguably the same advantage as that 4-on-5 scheme if he doesn't have to run block to block but instead plays outside. That's why the Bucks can play five out with Brook Lopez, or why Channing Frye is still in the league.spoiler (click to show/hide):expert[close]
I'm sure someone has brought this up, but I was always confused why when that story came out nobody seemed to think the opposing team wouldn't just leave back a defender ala hockey/soccer/etc., especially to potentially front the pass.
After the story was written, it was published and run on Forbes.com at 9:00 a.m. ET on October 23rd. However, after the NBA complained about the content of Berri’s story to his editors, the story was removed from Forbes’ website shortly after noon on the same day. No one at Forbes edited the piece before it was published, according to Berri.
Berri and Forbes have since parted ways after the article was taken down and not re-run. The two parties were unable to come to an agreement over republishing the story and how it could be further improved and edited for publication.
“The article was removed because it failed to meet Forbes’ strict editorial standards for accuracy and fairness,” Forbes said in a statement to WNBAInsidr. “Specifically, the contributor intentionally omitted facts and context from an authoritative source that would have undermined his thesis. As a result, David Berri was removed as a Forbes contributor.” Berri told WNBAInsidr that the editor at Forbes failed to indicate to him which specific claims made by Berri undermined his argument and what changes needed to be made. Berri said that he asked his editor to make specific changes, and the editor refused.
Is this now the catch-all thread for all the shitheads that use the phrase “the marketplace of ideas” unironically? :bedroomeyes
There's a You Must Be This Tall To Ride rule about this stuff. You Must Be This Emotionally and Intellectually Mature To Ride the discussion roller coaster. [=- Proceed to emoji your rolleyes and newsfeed here -=]
Is this now the catch-all thread for all the shitheads that use the phrase “the marketplace of ideas” unironically? :bedroomeyes
I don't think there is a single person on the bore that uses marketplace of ideas unironically.
I'd like to point out that Sargon literally e-mailed the Louis C.K. embassy.
Criticism at world stage should be start. Email chinese embassy. Write in news paper national one.
I do sort of remember my personally lumping him in with the (often Canadian for some reason) Objectivist types, even though I don't think he's an Objectivist, that sees a whole "clash of civilizations" going on and argues that it's not a rights violation to murder people in countries with less rights than the United States/Canada because countries that have more freedom are justified to "liberate" less free countries. It was because he was saying some similar stuff about Muslim countries and Islam. Some other wank dad people like Sargon have occasionally expressed similar sentiments about people who live under Islam.
I'd like to point out that Sargon literally e-mailed the Louis C.K. embassy.
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Narrator: Nobody understood that reference you weirdo.
I like to think Benji is locked in a padded room somewhere staring at a bank of computer screens that scroll resetera, neogaf, thebore, twitter posts, etc. past him 24 hours a day. Every once in a while a keyboard emerges from the wall and he is allowed to type posts into the Bore for a few minutes at a time.pls no dox
I like to think Benji is locked in a padded room somewhere staring at a bank of computer screens that scroll resetera, neogaf, thebore, twitter posts, etc. past him 24 hours a day. Every once in a while a keyboard emerges from the wall and he is allowed to type posts into the Bore for a few minutes at a time.
do you think I am fucking stupid enough to not check Babylonian genetics?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2eU96vCCFU
Shapiro sometimes seems like he's trying to be better than he has to be.
I mean in that he actually does journalistic like things like this or firing really bad writers, he is often actually nice to people dunking on him on twitter and will play along, he will go on YouTube channels to poke fun at himself and the "this is epic" meme, is willing to debate/appear on non-positive-only sites, agreed with Sandy on the debate thing others were trying to start but said he was still open to a debate on her terms, etc.wow why don't u marry him or bump ur love letter thread
Compare that to the rest of the Wank Dad and the conservative media in general who are completely humorless and don't even feign integrity. He clearly doesn't have to do these things and keep his fans. Hell, compare to a "comedian" in Steven Crowder and it seems like Shapiro is massively more comfortable with it all.
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did jordan peterson do anything in 2018 at all besides hanging out with dave rubin
did jordan peterson do anything
When I was a kid, I believed we would have jet packs and vacations to Mars by now
I will never forgive those who destroyed this dream
Guys I've now started to ponder the possibility that being "anti-identity politics" might sometimes carry some unstated beliefs or attitudes.Hey Ross, can you show me on the Internet where you have posted this about someone who is NOT white?
like the only explanation i can come up with is that he accidentally linked the wrong news story or something
I knew something was up with that guy when I was playing Black & White.
Listen, it’s not Black & White
OH THATS PETER NVM
Really puts a different perspective on the game Black and White.
How the mighty have fallen, throwing out my Fable body pillow.
https://twitter.com/nfergus/status/1089593617675628545
I've heard other people who know more than me say his early stuff, both academic and popular history, is good.even this is overstating it. There’s one well received monograph written for a scholarly audience (his first publication) and one well received book written for a popular audience (his second, and the one on the rothschilds).
History is an interesting field actually because popular histories are the foundation of it more than academic histories are, academic history is a relatively new phenomenon. It's a field that has always leaned more towards everyone fights over the history versus true peer review.wait, what?
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1090037254402265088>:( did he just use my :-[?
SHIRTLESS BERNIE SANDERS :phil
By default, YouTube enables an autoplay feature that serves users new videos as soon as the one they are watching finishes. These rabbit holes often lead viewers to videos that have received lots of “engagement,” including views, comments, and shares. More outrageous videos tend to perform well by these measures, and so they have been served up by the YouTube algorithm for years.
Conan Catches Jordan Schlansky Coming In Latethis has been there for like six months, i watched it like five years ago when they first posted it :lol
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Between like Game Sack's 3DO episode and some shitty top 10 sports moments video, there are always some Ben Shapiro videos.
History journals can be kinda weird, some of them are just like previews of books. Like the person is almost done with the book, so they'll write up a ten page article for a journal which is giving you a taste of what's coming.
That reminds me, what I should have mentioned about the fights. Book reviews are where they have fights. Someone will review your book, then you have to respond to their review, then they respond until the journal cuts it off. I know this is done in other fields, but like you mentioned books really matter in history, so the book reviews and responses will take up a lot of pages of the journals. In some poli sci journals the book reviews are pretty useless and I don't even know why they do them.
The historiography of history only goes back to the 19th century really
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1087091566856986629
Molyneux attended the Glendon College of York University, where he was an actor at Theatre Glendon[12] and a member of the Debating Society.[13] He then attended the National Theatre School of Canada in Montreal.[11][14] In 1991, Molyneux received a B.A. in History from McGill University, where he was active in the McGill Debating Union. He then went on to receive an M.A. in History from University of Toronto in 1993.Ivy League?
It would be cruel to arouse false expectations, so I had better say at once that Molyneux does not succeed in his noble goal. He fails, and fails miserably. His arguments are often preposterously bad.
Because of his facile intelligence, he thinks that he has a talent for philosophical argument and need not undertake the hard labor of learning how such arguments are constructed. Unfortunately for him and his book, he is mistaken.
lmao at this being why he would block PetersonHe loooves squid ink pasta. Otherwise: no idea.
does he eat nothing or what?
Taleb has been on a streak of childish behavior that began with his IQ meltdown. It's disturbing.Now that he's dumped on Peterson and IQ as a meaasure of intelligence, he's childish, even though Taleb's an arrogant asshole about damn near everything. How did he manage to look past this before. Odd. :thinking
The Taleb/Peterson problem is mostly a Taleb problem. It's not that he presents a criticism of the rice, but instead produces a tanrum. It's that he acts out these childish gestures and is quick towards name calling. He jumps right to calling others a Monsanto shill. This is a particularly odd conclusion for Peterson since Jordan has discussed solving world hunger and improving the world. (And its added benefits via childhood nutrition and development.)"Name calling", ie. virtue signaling is something people I don't like do. Peterson means it.
One person said this is simply a product of Taleb's culture, that Lebanese Christians are just basic assholes in their interactions with each other.:rofl
In brief, Pinker borrowed a quote from Bailey, who didn’t cite the original source and who lifted the quote from its original context to mean the opposite of what Zencey had intended. This led Zencey to confess to me, “how this guy [i.e., Pinker] managed to become a public intellectual in fields so far removed from his expertise is something to wonder at.”
Even worse is Pinker’s discussion of advanced artificial intelligence. In making his case that worries about superintelligence are unfounded, he describes a computer scientist at Berkeley, Stuart Russell, as one of the “AI experts who are publicly skeptical” that “high-level AI pose(s) the threat of ‘an existential catastrophe.’” But, in reality, Russell is actually one of the most prominent AI experts sounding the alarm that poorly designed AI systems could bring about the total annihilation of humanity! This is a bit like calling Darwin a creationist, or saying that Einstein believed that “God really does play dice.” It’s baffling that such a flagrant mistake made it to print — indeed, Russell himself told me via email that he’d “seen this and I agree it’s an incorrect characterization.”
In a separate paper titled “Countering Superintelligence Misinformation,” Baum states that Pinker’s remarks “will occasionally be used [in Baum’s paper] as an example of superintelligence misinformation because they are so clearly false.” Later on, Baum notes that “some statements about superintelligence are clearly false. For example, this statement from Steven Pinker: ‘As far as I know, there are no projects to build an AGI, not just because it would be commercially dubious, but also because the concept is barely coherent.’” Here, “AGI” means “artificial general intelligence,” and it’s just plain wrong that there are no projects to build AGI: There are at least 45, including one at Pinker’s own university. Once again, Pinker showed up to class without having done his homework.
In a tepid review of Malcolm Gladwell’s book "Outliers: The Story of Success" published in 2009, Pinker writes that, “the reasoning in 'Outliers,' which consists of cherry-picked anecdotes, post-hoc sophistry, and false dichotomies, had me gnawing on my Kindle.” Pinker then limns Gladwell as a “minor genius who unwittingly demonstrates the hazards of statistical reasoning and who occasionally blunders into spectacular failures.” I can relate to these frustrations, because I feel them about EN’s “minor-genius-level” discussion of existential threats.https://www.salon.com/2019/01/26/steven-pinkers-fake-enlightenment-his-book-is-full-of-misleading-claims-and-false-assertions/
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So Daddy P finally launched his competitor to Patreon:
https://www.jbpdaily.com/
:rofl
This is a simple way to stay connected to what Jordan is doing in a more intimate manner.$9 a month
He better be naked in his videos for 9 bucks a month.
is there an audiobook version?
Hitler didn’t even wear blackface once nor was he known for cultural appropriation.
I mean he appropriated German-Aryan culture from the start if we want to get really technical.
In 14th January of 2019, Candace decided to call out the representative from U.S. House of Representatives from New York’s 14th District, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on her Twitter account, mentioning that at the age of 30, Alexandria is so irresponsible that she hadn’t saved any money to rent an apartment in Washington D.C area.
After the Tweet, the internet exploded with all the negativity and backlash towards Candace when a Twitter-user Nathan Bernard retweeted her post. Further, he exposed her reality when she was 28 years of age, living in an apartment for six months straight and not paying the rent. Moreover, he also posted the legal documents on how she had threatened to sue her landlord to avoid paying rent.
Later on, the documents were proven to be original, and she did have lived rent free and then sued her landlord claiming “toxic mold sickness” in the past.
is there an audiobook version?
I just googled it: Yes there is :stahp
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ET carried water for this turd. :derp
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Not a wank dadder, but I just recently discovered that the "piano comedian guy" I didn't really like years ago, who got into a little bit of trouble a year and a half ago for being against giving hormones to trans kids, has gone completely off the rails and turned into an anti-jew hungrynoob pizzagater who thinks Steven Spielberg raped Heather O Rourke to death. It's weird seeing people who I thought were mostly normal turn into insane people, but maybe I'm just going to trust people more often when they tell me that someone I think is normal is actually extremely off.
I'd read a deep dive on why so many fringe political types are failed comedians (though "thirst for attention and love of their own voice" probably explains 90% of it).i remember seeing a take that made this connection, and helped explain two trends since the early 90s or so: the entertainmentification of daily news and the growth in looking to comedians as important sources of legit social/political commentary instead of as thoroughly disreputable
this mf
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Not a wank dadder, but I just recently discovered that the "piano comedian guy" I didn't really like years ago, who got into a little bit of trouble a year and a half ago for being against giving hormones to trans kids, has gone completely off the rails and turned into an anti-jew hungrynoob pizzagater who thinks Steven Spielberg raped Heather O Rourke to death. It's weird seeing people who I thought were mostly normal turn into insane people, but maybe I'm just going to trust people more often when they tell me that someone I think is normal is actually extremely off.
He got booted off Twitter last year for repeatedly posting about one of the Parkland kids' pubes.
I'd read a deep dive on why so many fringe political types are failed comedians (though "thirst for attention and love of their own voice" probably explains 90% of it).
my dream of alex jones and joe rogan in a cage match is shatteredIt could end in anal sex or a fight at this point. This shit is off the hook.
Yeah "I have the documents" isn't just a lol meme, literally almost all the crazy shit he talked about on JRE had documented factual basis that Young Jamie pulled up, although the small details were wrong and sometimes the bigger details were exaggerated.to paraphrase a great philosopher "If someone says 2+2=4, but they also stick marbles up their ass. 2+2 still equals 4."
I would say up through the early Obama years he was batting at like .700. But yeah for sure those earlier documentaries from Waco/OKC through 9/11 were his best and most accurate/truthful docs. A lot of the stuff he talked about in those ended up coming out many years later as accurate or even predictive. Which is maybe even more frightening that this fucking guy can predict shit.
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1101036497480896512 (https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1101036497480896512)we did it fam
The Rumble in the Realm of the Mind — Jordan Peterson vs. Slavoj Zizek — is coming to Toronto, as the two professors will debate “Happiness: Capitalism vs. Marxism” on April 19 at the Sony Centre.
Tickets ($40-$110 plus fees) from Livenation.com, Ticketmaster.ca, Sonycentre.ca and the Sony Centre box office.
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1101036497480896512 (https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1101036497480896512)we did it fam
(https://i.imgur.com/GBK0yuq.png)QuoteThe Rumble in the Realm of the Mind — Jordan Peterson vs. Slavoj Zizek — is coming to Toronto, as the two professors will debate “Happiness: Capitalism vs. Marxism” on April 19 at the Sony Centre.
Tickets ($40-$110 plus fees) from Livenation.com, Ticketmaster.ca, Sonycentre.ca and the Sony Centre box office.
Imagine paying $110 (plus fees) to sit front row to look up the nostrils of a man dressed like a late 1800s snake oil salesman who sounds like depressed Kermit the Frog and some slavic bum who looks like Stellan Skarsgård as Ole Anderson while they argue about Disney movies.
also talk about spoilers in the title, we already know "Capitalism" is winning the debate simply by the fact that they're selling tickets to Zizek rambling and mocking Peterson and whatever other random topics come into his head for two hours
or is capitalism losing because petersons crew will be the one's that buy tickets to this?"a fool and their money is soon parted" is the founding creed of the Church of Capitalism
etiolate, assi and opti should all be unbanned for this special event :pimp
Zizek won't debate or stay on topic anyway, he's fundamentally incapable of it. This is why Peterson's obsession with him is so great. He thinks Zizek is the postmodern Marxist dragon that if he can just somehow battle it he can forever end totalitarianism by besting it in debate. When Zizek can't commit to anything that's not currently attracting his attention by being shiny.
It's like the ultimate endgame of Peterson's whole mile wide, centimeter deep adventure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=250&v=va86Kek-LQABen's a lawyer, so it makes some sense that he would try to spring a semantic trap. Dunno what the other's guy excuse is.
Ben Shapiro is even dumber than previously thought
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=250&v=va86Kek-LQABen's a lawyer, so it makes some sense that he would try to spring a semantic trap. Dunno what the other's guy excuse is.
Ben Shapiro is even dumber than previously thought
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lol this guy
The things I'd do just to live in a chicktatorship :noah
It's abusive, triggering messages like that which are exactly the reason I got banned from a bar last week.
There was also a 33 page part one created by the master: http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45437.0:rejoice :tocry
There's a You Must Be This Tall To Ride rule about this stuff. You Must Be This Emotionally and Intellectually Mature To Ride the discussion roller coaster. [=- Proceed to emoji your rolleyes and newsfeed here -=]
His prediction was just that there would be some multiple-casualty hate crime targeting Asians, like the ones that targeted Jews in Pittsburgh (or Muslims in Quebec and Christchurch, or black Christians in Charleston), not a full blown race war or whatever.
It's not an extreme prediction at all, but Ben knows his hustle and his audience.
edit: I'm enough of a fogey to remember the pervasive sense that Japan had surpassed the US in the 80's and early 90's, and all the anxiety that brought out of Americans. For a country which is under our military umbrella!
Obviously Ben Shapiro can see the future
(https://i.imgur.com/3XMpmEv.png)Because with their demigod stuck in a loop of watching Fox News and tweeting angrily about the programming.
What's wrong with this guy?
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1108150327046397952
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOJ_7iHcORwWe Dutch pretty much try to shorten our work week any way we can. I'm not surprised Rutger is pushing this. :lol
im going through the two treatises right now and, in the process, revisiting all those jacobin pieces that try to drag him:There was also a 33 page part one created by the master: http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45437.0
I read through this entire thing. I expected one of you to snidely point out to etoilétte that Locke was secretary / advisor to parties directly involved in colonialism and in what I recall was fairly plain language admitted that the natives (or was it Savage races?) conception of property was irrelevant. I haven't read him in a few so correct me if I'm wrong here. :doge
Edit; or was it the other way around? Exploitable natives and resources existed and their ideologies were born as a result. Is this dialectical materialism :doge :ussrcrySearch your feelings. You know it to be true.
I visited Cambridge University in November of last year, during my 12 Rules for Life Book tour, one stop of which was the city of Cambridge, where I spoke publicly at the venerable Cambridge Corn Exchange. While there, I had lunch and dinner and various scheduled conversations with a good number of faculty members and other interested individuals who came in for the occasion, and we took the opportunity to speak with a welcome frankness about theological, philosophical and psychological matters. I also recorded twoYouTube videos/podcasts: one with the eminent philosopher Sir Roger Scruton, presented by The Cambridge Center for the Study of Platonism, and another with Dr. Stephen Blackwood, founding President of Ralston College, a university in Savannah, Georgia, preparing for launch.
I was also invited to address the student-run Cambridge Union, the oldest continuously running debating society in the world – a talk which was delivered to a packed house (a relatively rare occurrence) and which, despite being posted only four months ago, is now the second-most watched of their 200 total videos. I’m mentioning this for a very particular purpose: CUSU, the Cambridge University Student Union (not to be confused with the aforementioned Cambridge Union), pinned to their Twitter account the rescindment announcement three minutes before (!) the Faculty of Divinity did so, and in a spirit of apparent “relief.” The Guardian cited the following CUSU statement:
We are relieved to hear that Jordan Peterson’s request for a visiting fellowship to Cambridge’s faculty of divinity has been rescinded following further review. It is a political act to associate the University with an academic’s work through offers which legitimise figures such as Peterson. His work and views are not representative of the student body and as such we do not see his visit as a valuable contribution to the University, but one that works in opposition to the principles of the University.
It seems to me that the packed Cambridge Union auditorium, the intelligent questioning associated with the lecture, and the overwhelming number of views the subsequently posted video accrued, indicates that there a number of Cambridge students are very interested in what I have to say, and might well regard my visit “as a valuable contribution to the University.” I also have to say, as a university professor concerned with literacy, that the CUSU statement offered to The Guardian borders on the unintelligible, perhaps even crossing the line (as so much ideological-puppet-babble tends to): what in the world does it mean that “it is a political act to associate the University with an academic’s work through offers which legitimise figures such as Peterson”? And who could write or say something of that rhetorical nature without a deep sense of betraying their personal conscience?
In any case: In November, when I was in Cambridge, I began discussions with one of the faculty members (whom I had met briefly before, in London) about the possibility of entering into a collaboration with the Cambridge Divinity Faculty. I enjoyed the conversations I had at Cambridge immensely. I learned a lot about Biblical matters that had remained unknown to me in a very short time. This was of particular relevance to me, but also perhaps of more broad and public import, because of a series of lectures on the Biblical stories of Genesis I prepared, delivered live (at the Isabel Bader Theatre in Toronto) and then posted on YouTube (playlist here) and in podcast form.
Since their posting, beginning in May of 2017, these lectures have received about 10 million hits (as well as an equal or greater number of downloads). The first lecture alone, on the first sentence of Genesis, has, alone, garnered 3.7 million of those, which makes it the most well-received of all the talks I have ever posted online. I have received correspondence in great volume from religious people all over the world, Jews, Christians, Buddhists and Muslims alike—and an equally large number from atheists—all telling me that my psychological take on the Genesis material resonated very strongly with their faith, or that it helped them understand for the first time the value of these stories. You can see this for yourself by reading the comments on the YouTube channel, which are remarkably civilized and positive, by modern social media standards. I don’t think there is another modern religious/psychological phenomenon or happening that is genuinely comparable. It’s also the case that my books, 12 Rules for Life and Maps of Meaning both rely heavily on Judeo-Christian thinking, and are predicated on the idea that the stories that make up such thought constitute the bedrock of our civil, peaceful and productive society. The former has now sold 3 million copies (one million in tongues other than English), and will be translated into 50 languages; the latter, a much older book, was recently a New York Times bestseller in audio format. This volume of interest is clear indication of the widespread cross-cultural appeal of the work that I am doing.
In the fall, I am planning to produce a series of lectures on the Exodus stories. I presume they will have equal drawing power. I thought that I could extend my knowledge of the relevant stories by spending time in Cambridge, and that doing so would be useful for me, for faculty members who might be interested in speaking with me, and to the students. I also regarded it as a privilege and an opportunity. I believed (and still believe) that collaborating with the Faculty of Divinity on such a project would constitute an opportunity of clear mutual benefit. Finally, I thought that making myself more knowledgeable about relevant Biblical matters by working with the experts there would be of substantive benefit to the public audience who would eventually receive the resultant lectures.
Now the Divinity school has decided that signaling their solidarity with the diversity-inclusivity-equity mob trumps that opportunity–or so I presume. You see, I don’t yet know, because (and this is particularly appalling) I was not formally notified of this decision by any representative of the Divinity school. I heard about the rescinded offer through the grapevine, via a colleague and friend, and gathered what I could about the reasons from social media and press coverage (assuming that CUSU has at least something to do with it).
I would also like to point out something else. As I already noted, the Divinity Faculty (@CamDivinity) tweeted their decision to rescind, consciously making this a public issue. This is inexcusable, in my estimation, given (1) that they did not equally publicize the initial agreement/invitation (which has to be considered an event of equal import) and (2) that they implied that I came cap-in-hand to the school for the fellowship. This is precisely the kind of half-truth particularly characteristic of those who deeply practice to deceive, as the fellowship offer was a consequence of mutual discussion between those who invited me to Cambridge in July and my subsequent formal request, and not something I had dreamed up on my own.
It’s not going to make much difference to my future, in some sense. I have more opportunities at the moment than I can keep track of, let alone (let’s say) capitalize on. It’s a complex and surreally fortunate position to occupy, and I’m not taking it for granted, but it happens to be true. In the fall, therefore, I will produce the lectures I plan to produce on Exodus, regardless of whether they occur in the UK or in Canada or elsewhere, and they will attract whatever audience remains interested. But I think that it is deeply unfortunate that the authorities at the Divinity school in Cambridge decided that kowtowing to an ill-informed, ignorant and ideologically-addled mob trumped participating in an extensive online experiment in mass Christian and psychological education. Given the continued decline of church attendance, the rise in atheistic or agnostic sentiment, the increasing irrelevance of theological education and the collapse in interest in such matters among young people, wiser and more profound decisions might have been made.
You see, it matters whether people around the world understand these ancient stories. It deeply matters. We are becoming unmoored, because we no longer share the structure these stories undergird. This is psychologically destabilizing. It’s producing a pathological and desperate nihilism that is increasingly common and, at the same time, a pronounced proclivity for the ideological certainty that mimics but cannot replace true religious belief. Both consequences are bound to be, as the evidence certainly indicates, divisive and truly dangerous.
I think the Faculty of Divinity made a serious error of judgement in rescinding their offer to me (and I’m speaking about those unnamed persons who made that specific decision). I think they handled publicizing the rescindment in a manner that could hardly have been more narcissistic, self-congratulatory and devious.
I believe that the parties in question don’t give a damn about the perilous decline of Christianity, and I presume in any case that they regard that faith, in their propaganda-addled souls, as the ultimate manifestation of the oppressive Western patriarchy, despite their hypothetical allegiance to their own discipline.
I think that it is no bloody wonder that the faith is declining (and with it, the values of the West, as it fragments) with cowards and mountebanks of the sort who manifested themselves today at the helm.
I wish them the continued decline in relevance over the next few decades that they deeply and profoundly and diligently work toward and deserve.
P.S. I also find it interesting and deeply revealing that I know the names of the people who invited me, both informally and formally, but the names of the people who have disinvited me remain shrouded in exactly the kind of secrecy that might be expected from hidden, conspiratorial, authoritarian and cowardly bureaucrats. How many were there? No one knows. By what process did they come to the decision (since there were obviously people who wanted me there)? No one knows. On what grounds was the decision made? That has not been revealed. What role was played by pressure from, for example, the CUSU? That’s apparently no one’s business. It is on such ground that tyranny does not so much grow as positively thrive.
P.P.S. Here’s something from Vice-Chancellor Professor Stephen Toope of the University of Cambridge that’s worth consideration, in the current context (the described “openness” is apparently part of the university’s declared strategic initiatives regarding (what else) equality and diversity (bold mine):
One very specific aspect of…openness is being inclusive, and open to diversity in all its forms – diversity of interests and beliefs, of gender, of religion, of sexual identity, of ethnicity, of physical ability.
I think they handled publicizing the rescindment in a manner that could hardly have been more narcissistic, self-congratulatory and devious.:teehee
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I wish them the continued decline in relevance over the next few decades that they deeply and profoundly and diligently work toward and deserve.
A Jordan Peterson book is no longer for sale from Whitcoulls in New Zealand following the Christchurch terror attack.
The controversial Canadian professor visited Aotearoa in February, weeks before a gunman killed 50 people and injured dozens more at two mosques in Christchurch.
Although Peterson's book promotes self-help rather than violence or racism, he was photographed in New Zealand embracing a fan wearing a T-shirt emblazoned with the words "I'm a proud Islamaphobe", along with a list of various inflammatory accusations about Muslims.
Whitcoulls doesn't specify the exact reason for dumping Peterson's 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos, but the Islamaphobe T-shirt photo could be a part of the "disturbing material" referred to in replies to customer enquiries.
"Unfortunately 12 Rules for Life is currently unavailable, which is a decision that Whitcoulls has made in light of some extremely disturbing material being circulated prior, during and after the Christchurch attacks," Whitcoulls says in an email.
"As a business which takes our responsibilities to our communities very seriously, we believe it would be wrong to support the author at this time. Apologies that we're not able to sell it to you, but we appreciate your understanding."
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12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos does not contain the word 'Islam' and only contains the word 'Muslim' once, but not in a negative context.
Meanwhile, other titles about Islam are still available - including Islam Unmasked by Henry Malone, which claims to expose "the lies behind [Islamic] doctrines" and "the futility of [Islamic] practices".
Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf is also still available for purchase from Whitcoulls.
everything's turning up Daddy P: https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/entertainment/2019/03/jordan-peterson-s-12-rules-for-life-removed-from-whitcoulls-following-christchurch-terror-attack.htmlIt's really quite sad/frightening that ideas have become so scary that adults must be shielded from exposure to them.QuoteA Jordan Peterson book is no longer for sale from Whitcoulls in New Zealand following the Christchurch terror attack.
The controversial Canadian professor visited Aotearoa in February, weeks before a gunman killed 50 people and injured dozens more at two mosques in Christchurch.
Although Peterson's book promotes self-help rather than violence or racism, he was photographed in New Zealand embracing a fan wearing a T-shirt emblazoned with the words "I'm a proud Islamaphobe", along with a list of various inflammatory accusations about Muslims.
Whitcoulls doesn't specify the exact reason for dumping Peterson's 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos, but the Islamaphobe T-shirt photo could be a part of the "disturbing material" referred to in replies to customer enquiries.
"Unfortunately 12 Rules for Life is currently unavailable, which is a decision that Whitcoulls has made in light of some extremely disturbing material being circulated prior, during and after the Christchurch attacks," Whitcoulls says in an email.
"As a business which takes our responsibilities to our communities very seriously, we believe it would be wrong to support the author at this time. Apologies that we're not able to sell it to you, but we appreciate your understanding."
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12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos does not contain the word 'Islam' and only contains the word 'Muslim' once, but not in a negative context.
Meanwhile, other titles about Islam are still available - including Islam Unmasked by Henry Malone, which claims to expose "the lies behind [Islamic] doctrines" and "the futility of [Islamic] practices".
Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf is also still available for purchase from Whitcoulls.
Meanwhile, other titles about Islam are still available - including Islam Unmasked by Henry Malone, which claims to expose "the lies behind [Islamic] doctrines" and "the futility of [Islamic] practices".
Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf is also still available for purchase from Whitcoulls.
everything's turning up Daddy P: https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/entertainment/2019/03/jordan-peterson-s-12-rules-for-life-removed-from-whitcoulls-following-christchurch-terror-attack.htmlIt's really quite sad/frightening that ideas have become so scary that adults must be shielded from exposure to them.QuoteA Jordan Peterson book is no longer for sale from Whitcoulls in New Zealand following the Christchurch terror attack.
The controversial Canadian professor visited Aotearoa in February, weeks before a gunman killed 50 people and injured dozens more at two mosques in Christchurch.
Although Peterson's book promotes self-help rather than violence or racism, he was photographed in New Zealand embracing a fan wearing a T-shirt emblazoned with the words "I'm a proud Islamaphobe", along with a list of various inflammatory accusations about Muslims.
Whitcoulls doesn't specify the exact reason for dumping Peterson's 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos, but the Islamaphobe T-shirt photo could be a part of the "disturbing material" referred to in replies to customer enquiries.
"Unfortunately 12 Rules for Life is currently unavailable, which is a decision that Whitcoulls has made in light of some extremely disturbing material being circulated prior, during and after the Christchurch attacks," Whitcoulls says in an email.
"As a business which takes our responsibilities to our communities very seriously, we believe it would be wrong to support the author at this time. Apologies that we're not able to sell it to you, but we appreciate your understanding."
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12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos does not contain the word 'Islam' and only contains the word 'Muslim' once, but not in a negative context.
Meanwhile, other titles about Islam are still available - including Islam Unmasked by Henry Malone, which claims to expose "the lies behind [Islamic] doctrines" and "the futility of [Islamic] practices".
Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf is also still available for purchase from Whitcoulls.
I don't care if it's 12 Rules to P Your Daddy or Mein Kampf. It's words on a page for fuck's sake.
"Badman took a picture with some dipshit. Adults can't see that! They'll gun down innocents!"
"Badman took a picture with some dipshit"
"Badman took a picture with some dipshit. Adults can't see that! They'll gun down innocents!"Don't think they're afraid of that, no. :doge
Almost like people project what they hate about themselves onto others to make them feel better about themselves or something
Five years ago, a Mississauga therapist named Christina Papadopoulos took part in an online podcast with her husband and described how one day she cut off contact with her parents, whose company she found phony and stifling.
Ms. Papadopoulos also said she was worried her online musings about shunning her relatives might land her in trouble with "the psychology community."
Her fears came true this week when, in an unprecedented disciplinary case, the College of Psychologists of Ontario found her guilty of professional misconduct because she used the Internet to counsel people to emulate her and sever ties with their families.
A disciplinary panel of the college heard Tuesday that Ms. Papadopoulos, a psychological associate, gave improper advice on a number podcasts made with her husband, Stefan Molyneux.
A self-described Internet philosopher, Mr. Molyneux is behind hundreds of posts, podcasts and videos on his website, Freedomain Radio, that discuss a range of topics from a libertarian mindset. "Stef and I, we have the capacity to help the world," Ms. Papadopoulos says in one podcast.
The couple has garnered little attention in Canada, but several parents from Britain and the United States have told The Globe and Mail that their children consulted Freedomain Radio, then became estranged from their families.
Already controversial for counselling his followers to shun their parents, a Toronto-area podcaster is facing allegations he listened in on his therapist wife as she met with distraught patients.
Stefan Molyneux is a self-described libertarian philosopher. His wife, Christina Papadopoulos, is a psychological associate in Mississauga.
The College of Psychologists of Ontario found Ms. Papadopoulos guilty of professional misconduct in November, 2012, faulting her for adopting Mr. Molyneux's views and using the Internet to counsel people to sever ties with their families.
A civil court complaint filed on Oct. 24 in California says Mr. Molyneux boasted in a 2006 podcast that he would listen while his wife talked with her patients, even interjecting and suggesting they sign up with his website.
The allegations are part of a lawsuit filed by a Texas woman who has accused Mr. Molyneux of abusively invoking U.S. copyright law to silence her criticism of his podcasts.
Her lawsuit said one of her video criticisms quoted from a Molyneux podcast in which he said "that he listens in on his wife's confidential sessions with her patients in her home office and interferes with the therapy sessions to suggest the patients join and donate to Freedomain Radio."
The comments are not in the version of podcast 291 now on Mr. Molyneux's YouTube channel, but are in a longer version Ms. Raven provided after a request from The Globe and Mail.
In the version provided by Ms. Raven, Mr. Molyneux states that it is June 21, 2006. He then speaks about listening in as his wife meets with "messed up and sobbing" clients at her home office.
"I'm in the vent system, listening, and I'm – she calls it heckling, but I don't really call it heckling, I just call it providing suggestions about how things should go and that the people should donate to Freedomain Radio," he says in the podcast.
"I mean, it takes them a while to figure what on Earth that is, but I do, sort of, try to put my two cents in and Christina says that sometimes can be distracting and so on. But even with the combined weight of her, directly in front of them, and me, my ghostly voice floating in through the vents, they still have trouble making the kind of personal changes that really have a positive effect on their lives."
Ms. Raven says in her lawsuit that her YouTube channel was shut down after complaints from an associate of Mr. Molyneux, Michael DeMarco, who invoked the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), a U.S. law regulating intellectual property.
Under the DMCA, an Internet provider facing allegations that its clients violated copyright can avoid liability by removing the contentious content, even without investigating the validity of the complaint. As a result, so-called DMCA takedowns have been criticized as an abusive form of censorship.
"Molyneux apparently believes that it is acceptable to use the copyright laws to silence his critics – without any claimed copyright basis – by publishing false accusations," the lawsuit said, noting that Mr. Molyneux previously opposed intellectual property.
The parties presented the Panel with an Agreed Statement of Facts which states as follows:
The member, Ms. Christina Papadopoulos, hereby formally admits the following facts:
The Member has been a member of the College, registered as a Psychological Associate since December 10, 1997. Since that time, the member has been authorized to provide psychological services in Ontario, and provide such services in an autonomous practice in Mississauga.
The College received two complaints concerning the Member. The first was received in June 2009 and the second was received in April 2011. A panel of the Inquiries, Complaints and Reports Committee (“ICRC”) of the College considered each complaint and disposed of it in accordance with the provisions of the Health Professions Procedural Code (the “Code”) by way of a referral, in each case, of specified allegations of misconduct arising from those complaints to the Discipline Committee of the College.
Subsequent to the referral arising out of each complaint of specified allegations of professional misconduct to the Discipline Committee, the College issued an amended Notice of Hearing, in order that, in accordance with the consent of the Member, these two related matters could proceed together by way of one consolidated hearing. There is significant overlap between the specified allegations of professional misconduct and the facts underlying those specified allegations, in each case, and accordingly, a joint hearing is the most expeditious and appropriate manner in which to proceed, given the public interest.
In the course of investigating the second complaint, the College conducted an investigation pursuant to S. 75 of the Health Professions Procedural Code, being Schedule 2 to the Regulated Health Professions Act, 1991. The investigation reviewed 10 records from the Member’s practice, and found that the Member had not recommended deFOOing to any of the clients to whom the 10 records pertained. However the Member made public statements and provided advice to the public via the website www.freedomainradio.com and podcasts available thereon, wherein she discussed and recommended “deFOOing”, or dissociating from families of origin in providing advice to specific individuals. The Member made statements and provided advice in the context of her personal experience and also while relying upon her qualifications and registration as a Psychological Associate. While providing advice to individuals, she did so without properly assessing the circumstances of the members of the internet audience to whom advice was provided.
Ms. Papadopoulos acknowledges and recognizes, that the making of personal disclosures in the context of the podcasts in which she was identified as a therapist and a registered member of the College, were capable of misinterpretation as psychological advice although she maintains that they were not intended as such.
While it may be appropriate to recommend family separation in cases of abuse, the Member did not obtain a sufficient history to ascertain whether the advice was warranted in the circumstances discussed in the podcasts. Although the Member advised that listeners seek professional help in their home communities on a number of locations, she acknowledges that this advice was given in the absence of any meeting or proper assessment, and there was significant risk of misunderstanding by members of the public and the individuals to whom the Member directed advice and comments and such misunderstandings posed a risk of harm.
The Member made general statements and provided advice, both in general terms and directed towards particular individuals that are not supported by current professional literature or consistent with the Standards. One example is the following statement, made in the context of answering the question regarding whether some people are better off single than coupled. The Member replied:
“My immediate impulsive reaction is: no one is better off single than coupled-and sometimes our impulses are correct, and sometimes are (sic) impulses are just that, and need to be explored and debated.”
“Given how dysfunctional many people are in today’s society, I’d say that it is better for them to be single. In fact I do counsel a lot of my clients not to date while they’re going through the process of therapy, because it is far too difficult to manage the relationship while you’re trying to figure yourself out, and often times those relationships will end up failing.”
“… In a perfect world where everybody is psychologically healthy, I think, you know, relationships are absolutely-can be absolutely wonderful. Very stimulating… I can only speak based on my relationships with [her husband] how enormously satisfying and fulfilling it is, and how happy we are. And, I wish that for everybody. I really, truly do… But, I don’t think it’s possibly for everybody until they are able to work through a lot of their own issues.”
Another example is the following statement, made in response to a question about why someone was attracted to women who were not interested in a romantic relationship:
“I would say that it’s because he questions himself that he ends up choosing women who are not interested in him, or-not necessarily interested in him, who are not emotionally available or whom moved him directly into a guy friend status there’s part of you, my dear friend, that doesn’t think you are worthy of having that level of intimacy, or that level of connectedness with someone. There’s a part of you, I think, that’s also quite afraid of it so you’re drawn to people who aren’t going to be able to give it to you.”
There is the risk and certainly the perception of the public, that the Member’s objectivity, competence and effectiveness were compromised by financial interests, since the Freedomain Radio website (although not the Member herself), actively solicited donations from readers and listeners, which promoted and benefited the site managed by the Member’s husband, with the suggestion that the level of donation to the website (her husband) reflect the number of podcasts listened to by any individual. The member’s private practice website (www.mississaugatherapy.com) was also accessible in the “Ask a Therapist” section of the Freedomain Radio website.
In presenting information that is not representative of the discipline of the profession of psychology, and which could be harmful to a member or members of the public, while using and relying upon her qualifications and registration as a registered Psychological Associate member of the College, the Member acted in a manner that would reasonably be regarded by members as disgraceful, dishonourable or unprofessional.
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'It seems to me that the packed Cambridge Union auditorium, the intelligent questioning associated with the lecture, and the overwhelming number of views the subsequently posted video accrued, indicates that there a number of Cambridge students are very interested in what I have to say, and might well regard my visit “as a valuable contribution to the University.”'https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_popularity
Wait Shapiro wouldn't attend a marriage between a Jew and a non-Jew???
From what I hear Peterson went to the Manifesto because he thought it was the definitive Marxist document which goes to show what an intellectual scrub he is
From what I hear Peterson went to the Manifesto because he thought it was the definitive Marxist document which goes to show what an intellectual scrub he is
he also decided to go with that cause it was the shortest
(https://i.imgur.com/w23czXt.png):-[
I'll have to watch when I'm back in the country but I'm sure JoPe got owned even if Zizek is an incoherent hack
haven't watched yet but can't waitI'm at 2:23:00 and it still sucks, just don't watch if you respect your time.
I'm at 2:23:00 and it still sucks, just don't watch if you respect your time.
Hang on. Do people here really watch amateur philosophers 'debate' for hours?I'll watch hours of zizek videos just to find that one ten second dirty joke :doge
I though the whole wank dad thing is just getting funny soundbites and tweets. :stahp
pretty sure they get paid for their wankery breh
Seneca can suck my hog!
https://www.resetera.com/threads/jordan-peterson-the-intellectual-we-deserve.30669/post-20026797
:lol
watching at work now and just got through jp's opening statement - dude hasn't done any of the reading you would have assumed one would do not just to prepare for this debate but to have a base level of credibility as a public dank web intellectual, so instead does some weird attempted psychological reading of marx and engels before lapsing into his usual talking points? wtf? zizek should be able run rings around this clownI'll have to watch when I'm back in the country but I'm sure JoPe got owned even if Zizek is an incoherent hackhaven't watched yet but can't waitI'm at 2:23:00 and it still sucks, just don't watch if you respect your time.
pretty sure they get paid for their wankery brehi think zizek said that he's going to donate his share from ticket sales to charity
also talk about spoilers in the title, we already know "Capitalism" is winning the debate simply by the fact that they're selling tickets to Zizek rambling and mocking Peterson and whatever other random topics come into his head for two hourscorrect
Zizek won't debate or stay on topic anyway, he's fundamentally incapable of it. This is why Peterson's obsession with him is so great. He thinks Zizek is the postmodern Marxist dragon that if he can just somehow battle it he can forever end totalitarianism by besting it in debate. When Zizek can't commit to anything that's not currently attracting his attention by being shiny.shockingly incorrect
It's like the ultimate endgame of Peterson's whole mile wide, centimeter deep adventure.
Peterson should just debate an actual raccoon instead.still most correct
When you have read Marx's ethnological notebooks, you realize that he was a complete hack. :trashI think this is actually close to Zizek's usual position on Marx and why he doesn't like to call himself a Marxist. He likes the critique but thinks the rest is distracting nonsense. Notice in the clip Esch posted, he doesn't mention Capital, only the articles from a certain period. IIRC, this is closer to his actual position than defending it all, which he probably realized early on he thankfully didn't have to do thanks to Peterson being an
I always thought attacking just The Manifesto was something like only Fox News hosts did because their audience doesn't really care about it, but then the last two years have disabused me of this notion, regarding people of all kinds of different levels of sympathy towards "socialist" ideas :doge
now I'm kinda curious how his full fledged fans are taking this, but I don't exactly know where to go to find Peterson fans, reddit I guess? the "I like Peterson cuz he hates people I do" circles I sometimes visit seem to be agreeing with more left and other places that he mostly embarrassed himself for no real advantage outside of the money
I casually browsed the jp subreddit after the debate and it's hard to get a real read on what ''''''they'''''' think because it's getting brigaded by chapotraphouse fans engaging in the Protracted Poster's War and counter flooded with by the regulars with memes about gulags.
There was some acknowledgement of JP being unprepared. And also weird weird people imitating JPs entire mythic affect responding to irony poisoned ancom types with "BEGONE FOUL DEMON" gandalfspeak.
Edit: and honestly, a lot of them played up how nice and civil it was and the things they agree on like political correctness, claiming that it was a "great discussion" etc etc. Which is what it is since Zizek didn't press him at all.
One thing I noticed in watching this is that JoPe didn't seem to have any awareness of different interpretations or schools of Marxism or his intellectual successors.Usually a good sign for that is when a person seems to want to blame Marx, personally, for everything. When the real world criminals like Lenin, Stalin, Mao, etc. all did their own accurate discovery of the scientific principles of TRUE Marxism. If you can't even recognize this difference with huge figures of history, you'll never get to the internecine academic Marxist wars...
One thing I personally like to emphasize when teaching The Manifestoin what context do you teach the manifesto, aren't you primarily american history ???
According to a Teaching, Research & International Policy Project survey, a regular poll of international-relations scholars, very few believe they should not contribute to policy making in some way. Yet a majority also recognize that the state-of-the-art approaches of academic social science are precisely those approaches that policy makers find least helpful. A related poll of senior national-security decision-makers confirmed that, for the most part, academic social science is not giving them what they want.
The problem, in a nutshell, is that scholars increasingly privilege rigor over relevance. That has become strikingly apparent in the subfield of international security (the part of political science that once most successfully balanced those tensions), and has now fully permeated political science as a whole. This skewed set of intellectual priorities — and the field’s transition into a cult of the irrelevant — is the unintended result of disciplinary professionalization.
That increasing tendency to embrace methods and models for their own sake rather than because they can help us answer substantively important questions is, I believe, a misstep for the field. This trend is in part the result of the otherwise normal and productive workings of science, but it is also reinforced by less legitimate motives, particularly organizational self-interest and the particularities of our intellectual culture.I was surprised at how positive this article was received in the field, even with all the usual caveats
While the use of statistics and formal models is not by definition irrelevant, their edging out of qualitative approaches has over time made the discipline less relevant to policy makers. Many pressing policy questions are not readily amenable to the preferred methodological tools of political scientists. Qualitative case studies most often produce the research that policy makers need, and yet the field is moving away from them.
In addition to the growing dogma among many political scientists that scholars can achieve rigor only by using a narrow set of techniques, other factors compound today’s cult of the irrelevant. For instance, many social scientists eschew policy relevance on the grounds that it is incompatible with scientific objectivity. Objectivity, for them, means that social-science research has to be "value-free," concerning itself only with establishing and analyzing the facts about what "is" and avoiding any discussion of what "ought" to be. A social-scientific consensus has emerged: Objectivity precludes policy engagement because the latter is inextricably linked with questions of value.
Teaching anything about Communism/Marxism in a way that seems not negative is how you expose the College Republicans. It's the one thing you're always taught in Graduate School Political Science.
oops, wasn't supposed to reveal that
I do cheat, for Communism, the recommended reading is something like The Communist Manifesto (they just ask why if you don't include it), Critique of the Gotha Program and The Conquest of Bread/Mutual Aid :teehee
Zizek and Daddy P liked eachother. They'll get their own Netflix show for sure.i think daddy p was more enamored by zizek than the other way around; i listened/watched in the background and noticed some subtle (pointing out orthodoxy is also a very short book)/not so subtle jabs by zizek ("i'm not saying you're an idiot and don't know what you're talking about" and asking for names of any pomo neo marxists)
After reading about this debate, I'm now convinced Daddy P did not intentionally misrepresent the "compelled speech" law and make a new career out of it, but he actually likely didn't read the bill at all (and most assuredly still hasn't) and just assumed that's what it said because he heard it somewhere. He's truly exposed as a hack fraud who lucked into this life and has been winging it ever since.
After reading about this debate, I'm now convinced Daddy P did not intentionally misrepresent the "compelled speech" law and make a new career out of it, but he actually likely didn't read the bill at all (and most assuredly still hasn't) and just assumed that's what it said because he heard it somewhere. He's truly exposed as a hack fraud who lucked into this life and has been winging it ever since.
One thing I never understood was how the "skeptic community" became a part of the new right. I don't understand the link.
One thing I never understood was how the "skeptic community" became a part of the new right. I don't understand the link.
You've never met a "race realist" quoting bell curves and black crime stats in your life? I envy you for it.
That's low-key Sam Harris entire grift.
I think it's also a matter a matter of looking at things in a binary way without allowing for much nuance and a mixture of views. Like Nintex can be considered alt-right here, a Nazi on Re, but a a bleeding heart college intellectual on Voat. People do exist in gray areas, guys.
I never understood the skeptic community‘s raison d‘etre. It always struck me as something inherently American, since you couldn‘t score edgelord points here for atheism since Feuerbach.
...the scientism crowd thinks the parts of The WestTM that are worth preserving only extend to about John Locke, or so. Where the other crowd really buys into the Judaeo-Christian civilization myth...so, e.g., Pinker and Dawkins, while not being alt-right and not clearly even normal-right, dovetail really nicely with the first group, but have no common stock with the second.
Also a lot (although i couldn't tell you who) of people just have incoherent worldviews / ideology. I have a friend who is as radlib + idpol centric as it gets but loves Sam Harris and keeps a library's worth of anti-muslim factoids in her brain.dont know your friend, obv, but I’m willing to bet this is because that Harrisite secular liberal shtick itself is high-key idpol
For some reason I thought Sargon was black...
I'm listening :gopnik go onSo full disclosure, I’m on record (http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=44608.msg2513124#msg2513124) saying that I don’t think a politics that doesn’t mobilize ‘identity’ is really possible given i) what the modern self is and ii) what modern politics are/have always been. So there’s a strong, tendentious claim I’d make that any stance claiming neutrality wrt idpol -like in the case of the detached objective outside observer that utilitarians are so fond of- is just gonna recapitulate the received common sense of a certain milieu. Anti-idpol is the idpol of hegemony, or something like this. In Harris’ case, it’s secular, liberal, white, wealthy, cosmopolitan reason repackaged as what everyone would arrive at if they were being sufficiently rational.
I had a gay conservative for a roommate once. I talked to him at length about it, which was kind of rude in retrospect, but he was definitely cognizant that "his side" didn't always have his back and that the tradeoff was hard at times. Luckily, he was white!the unbearable whiteness of being :'(
I still think this is more humiliating for him. I feel awful just watching it.this clip makes it sound like Dave Rubin actually tried to spring a "gay-ish" orgy on Ben Shaprio in the past
https://twitter.com/hanton_jeff/status/1118549529047887872
I think he's read Gulag Archipelago and The Black Book of Communism.
aww so cute, can we adopt it?
You came to the defense of Roseanne Barr, saying that she denied, after tweeting racist stuff about Valerie Jarrett, knowing Valerie Jarrett was black.wat :derp
Did she say that? That she didn’t know she was black?
You say it in the book.
Yeah, right, I quoted her.
You are a novelist. You write about the human condition. Do you worry about the self-harm of people who see things like child separation and have no emotional response?
I think I am an absurdist. I think politics are ridiculous.
Maybe don’t write a book about it. Would that be the solution?
I think the problem is that I don’t necessarily see this as interesting as fiction.
Yeah, I could tell.
It was much more interesting to me to write this as a nonfiction book, in terms of pulling this stuff from my podcast.
Thanks so much for talking.
It’s interesting to have that back-and-forth pull in an interview. The only problem, however, is that I am not that political, and so, when we have this conversation, and you confront me with certain things like this, I really am, I have to say, at a loss.
How do you write an entire book on a subject you don't care about and apparently haven't thought about at all?
this clip makes it sound like Dave Rubin actually tried to spring a "gay-ish" orgy on Ben Shaprio in the past(https://i.imgur.com/UBQT6C0.jpg)
How do you write an entire book on a subject you don't care about and apparently haven't thought about at all?Was that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you, I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, ‘cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time.
This interview is amazing:
https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/bret-easton-ellis-thinks-youre-overreacting-to-donald-trump (https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/bret-easton-ellis-thinks-youre-overreacting-to-donald-trump)
I still think this is more humiliating for him. I feel awful just watching it.
https://twitter.com/hanton_jeff/status/1118549529047887872
No one cares what ben thinks or says.
Unfortunately this isn't really true, he has almost double the followers of JORP on social media who is the loose central subject of these threads. I would say he's the most popular IDWer maybe.
None of these people '''''''matter'''''''' aside from culture wars, but the wars must be fought :usa
No one cares what ben thinks or says.
Unfortunately this isn't really true, he has almost double the followers of JORP on social media who is the loose central subject of these threads. I would say he's the most popular IDWer maybe.
None of these people '''''''matter'''''''' aside from culture wars, but the wars must be fought :usa
Half the followers are bots and a good portion of the rest are people who just want to rage at him.
If a significant amount of people want to rage at him, he matters.
Ilhan Omar was retweeting stuff implying that he directly influenced the Canadian mass shooter.
:yeshrug
Lil Ben looks so angry all the timeMaking up for his baby face.
Accounts that continue to share information from InfoWars will also face potential bans, The Atlantic reported, and all InfoWars content will be removed from Facebook’s platforms.:rogan
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/facebook-ban-infowars-alex-jones-milo-yiannopoulos-louis-farrakhan-islam-a8897221.html
pouring one out for the Bore's freeze peach warriors and their losses in the battle of ideas
Facebook bans far-right leaders including Louis Farrakhan, Alex Jones, Milo Yiannopoulos
Correction: Louis Farrakhan is an extremist leader who has espoused anti-Semitic views. An earlier version of this story and headline incorrectly included him in a list of far-right leaders.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/facebook-ban-infowars-alex-jones-milo-yiannopoulos-louis-farrakhan-islam-a8897221.html
pouring one out for the Bore's freeze peach warriors and their losses in the battle of ideasQuote from: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/05/02/facebook-bans-extremist-leaders-including-louis-farrakhan-alex-jones-milo-yiannopoulos-being-dangerous/Facebook bans far-right leaders including Louis Farrakhan, Alex Jones, Milo YiannopoulosQuoteCorrection: Louis Farrakhan is an extremist leader who has espoused anti-Semitic views. An earlier version of this story and headline incorrectly included him in a list of far-right leaders.
Seriously though, in most people's mind 'far-right' still practically means white supremacist or neo-nazi, etc. However, it has been so consistently misused against a whole swathe of people that it has now lost all meaning.How do you reconcile these two statements?
It wasn't liberals who were complaining about Farrakhan being called far-right
Seriously though, in most people's mind 'far-right' still practically means white supremacist or neo-nazi, etc. However, it has been so consistently misused against a whole swathe of people that it has now lost all meaning.How do you reconcile these two statements?
If the misuse of 'far-right' has eroded its meaning, how do you figure that it still means white supremacist or neo-nazi in most people's minds?
In other words, they're quite happy to use the term quite broadly when it suits them, but they seem to understand the connotation of far-right with white supremacist all of a sudden.I think in this case it was far-right = anti-semite that was the clincher.
OK. Now I understand what you were trying to say.In other words, they're quite happy to use the term quite broadly when it suits them, but they seem to understand the connotation of far-right with white supremacist all of a sudden.I think in this case it was far-right = anti-semite that was the clincher.
I’m not an anti-Semite. I’m anti-Termite.
Still pretty confused how Ben Shapiro objecting to the WaPo describing Farrakhan as far-right and them capitulating is evidence that the left is using the term to slur their opponents
Is it the equating of far-right with white supremacy that's the slur, or is it the changing of that association?
Kinda think Leadbelly made an assumption about who was mad and ran with it, then when he learned he was wrong kept going anyways
AJ's grift took him to White Genocide theory which you can't interpret as anything but far-right dogwhistles. If you think that by itself doesn't make him far-right, or that it was disingenuous then alright, but he's on record with it.
https://www.salon.com/2017/10/02/alex-jones-las-vegas/
Still pretty confused how Ben Shapiro objecting to the WaPo describing Farrakhan as far-right and them capitulating is evidence that the left is using the term to slur their opponents
Is it the equating of far-right with white supremacy that's the slur, or is it the changing of that association?
Kinda think Leadbelly made an assumption about who was mad and ran with it, then when he learned he was wrong kept going anyways
I had no idea who the person was who complained. Didn't even bother to check. In fact I wasn't even able to view the article. It was blocked. May I ask the reason Ben Shapiro complained? .
Again the person who complained is irrelevant. It is pretty clear to me that many people labelled by the media as far-right, or alt-right aren't actually that. The way far-right has been used in recent years by the media is broader than in previous years.
Someone else on that list, Alex Jones, is not far-right. He is a right-wing conspiracy nut. He is not a white supremacist. Farrakhan is a blatant anti-semite, Alex Jones is not. Funnily enough Ben Shapiro has been labelled far-right or alt-right on a number of occasions. Far right is thrown about quite casually it seems. However, they were very quick correct the notion that farrakhan was far-right. Here's where I made an assumption; they fely obliged to make the retraction because he is black, and therefore technically can't actually be a white supremacist. Which is true. But if they are willing to acknowledge that being a white supremacist is a prerequisite of being far-right, then surely Alex Jones doesn't fit that either, no?
To sum up, it was just comment on the way that term is used in the media often incorrectly.
Still pretty confused how Ben Shapiro objecting to the WaPo describing Farrakhan as far-right and them capitulating is evidence that the left is using the term to slur their opponents
Is it the equating of far-right with white supremacy that's the slur, or is it the changing of that association?
Kinda think Leadbelly made an assumption about who was mad and ran with it, then when he learned he was wrong kept going anyways
I had no idea who the person was who complained. Didn't even bother to check. In fact I wasn't even able to view the article. It was blocked. May I ask the reason Ben Shapiro complained? .
Again the person who complained is irrelevant. It is pretty clear to me that many people labelled by the media as far-right, or alt-right aren't actually that. The way far-right has been used in recent years by the media is broader than in previous years.
Someone else on that list, Alex Jones, is not far-right. He is a right-wing conspiracy nut. He is not a white supremacist. Farrakhan is a blatant anti-semite, Alex Jones is not. Funnily enough Ben Shapiro has been labelled far-right or alt-right on a number of occasions. Far right is thrown about quite casually it seems. However, they were very quick correct the notion that farrakhan was far-right. Here's where I made an assumption; they fely obliged to make the retraction because he is black, and therefore technically can't actually be a white supremacist. Which is true. But if they are willing to acknowledge that being a white supremacist is a prerequisite of being far-right, then surely Alex Jones doesn't fit that either, no?
To sum up, it was just comment on the way that term is used in the media often incorrectly.
See this is why who complained matters: they retracted because they got pushback from people like Shapiro, Trump Jr, etc. Maybe secretly it was because they didn't think a black guy could be right-wing, but then why did they say he was in the first place? Also funnily enough I first heard about this story because left-wingers on Twitter were complaining that WaPo had caved and saying that of course Farrakhan is right-wing.
AJ's grift took him to White Genocide theory which you can't interpret as anything but far-right dogwhistles. If you think that by itself doesn't make him far-right, or that it was disingenuous then alright, but he's on record with it.
https://www.salon.com/2017/10/02/alex-jones-las-vegas/
What is written in that article just sounds like Alex Jones typical conspiracy crap to me. This is the same guy that claimed sandy hook was a hoax. One thing I know about Alex Jones is that he has been hated for years by white supremacists for a being a filler shill. He was married to a Jewish woman which also technically makes his kids Jewish. There were videos they used of him in support of Israel that they used as evidence he was a filler shill.
Like i said, if you think he is a grifter, then fair (I wouldnt disagree with that). However, promoting Great Replacement theory and blaming leftists for tragedies in a very familiar format (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire) is content that appeals mostly to people who wave hello with their hands at erect 45 degree angles. And that's ignoring all his previous fillerdogwhistlesrellif
:yeshrug
I'm not even really sure you can pin Alex Jones down to anything because his overarching belief system is in the New World Order (4 Life) and global elites wanting to enslave the population. People tend to forget he came out of the weirdo liberal Austin scene and really started getting notoriety as a vehemently anti-GWB/neocon/War On Terror guy. When Obama got elected he just swapped out the names but basically was running the same shit but realize he could sell weird shit to his conservative listeners who for some reason seem to be much more willing to gold, silver, and industrial sized buckets of slop. At some point he became a parody of himself and then worked himself into a shoot, and he's obviously not operating on the normal wavelength in general, but I think it's pointless to tie him down to any point of the political spectrum when his NWO theory is the only thing that really matters to him.
I had no idea who the person was who complained. Didn't even bother to check. In fact I wasn't even able to view the article. It was blocked. May I ask the reason Ben Shapiro complained? .
Again the person who complained is irrelevant. It is pretty clear to me that many people labelled by the media as far-right, or alt-right aren't actually that. The way far-right has been used in recent years by the media is broader than in previous years.
Someone else on that list, Alex Jones, is not far-right. He is a right-wing conspiracy nut. He is not a white supremacist. Farrakhan is a blatant anti-semite, Alex Jones is not. Funnily enough Ben Shapiro has been labelled far-right or alt-right on a number of occasions. Far right is thrown about quite casually it seems. However, they were very quick correct the notion that farrakhan was far-right. Here's where I made an assumption; they fely obliged to make the retraction because he is black, and therefore technically can't actually be a white supremacist. Which is true. But if they are willing to acknowledge that being a white supremacist is a prerequisite of being far-right, then surely Alex Jones doesn't fit that either, no?
To sum up, it was just comment on the way that term is used in the media often incorrectly.
I had no idea who the person was who complained. Didn't even bother to check. In fact I wasn't even able to view the article. It was blocked. May I ask the reason Ben Shapiro complained? .
Again the person who complained is irrelevant. It is pretty clear to me that many people labelled by the media as far-right, or alt-right aren't actually that. The way far-right has been used in recent years by the media is broader than in previous years.
Someone else on that list, Alex Jones, is not far-right. He is a right-wing conspiracy nut. He is not a white supremacist. Farrakhan is a blatant anti-semite, Alex Jones is not. Funnily enough Ben Shapiro has been labelled far-right or alt-right on a number of occasions. Far right is thrown about quite casually it seems. However, they were very quick correct the notion that farrakhan was far-right. Here's where I made an assumption; they fely obliged to make the retraction because he is black, and therefore technically can't actually be a white supremacist. Which is true. But if they are willing to acknowledge that being a white supremacist is a prerequisite of being far-right, then surely Alex Jones doesn't fit that either, no?
To sum up, it was just comment on the way that term is used in the media often incorrectly.
https://twitter.com/brettsperminute/status/1111407148456525830
I'm not sure at the core what exactly it is that separates a guy that believes Judeo-Christian influences and white Western civilization is intrinsically superior to all others and needs to be preserved and remain unsullied by political force if needed(Shapiro), vs. the people that think all that but filter it through racist 8chan memes?
To me it's like jostling over whether it was fair to characterize Buckley as a white supremacist/racist in the 50's by arguing it's unfair because his views weren't rooted specifically in a belief of racial genetic superiority. Even though his sociologically rooted arguments produced alliances and prescriptions basically indistinguishable from the full throttle race science segregationists of the day.spoiler (click to show/hide)(https://i.imgflip.com/2bekbc.jpg)[close]
lol
I don't want to be the one to defend Ben Shapiro, but I have heard him explicitly differentiate between Muslims and Islam. There is a difference between saying all Muslims are the problem and saying there is a problem with Islam.
I don't want to be the one to defend Ben Shapiro
I had no idea who the person was who complained. Didn't even bother to check. In fact I wasn't even able to view the article. It was blocked. May I ask the reason Ben Shapiro complained? .
Again the person who complained is irrelevant. It is pretty clear to me that many people labelled by the media as far-right, or alt-right aren't actually that. The way far-right has been used in recent years by the media is broader than in previous years.
Someone else on that list, Alex Jones, is not far-right. He is a right-wing conspiracy nut. He is not a white supremacist. Farrakhan is a blatant anti-semite, Alex Jones is not. Funnily enough Ben Shapiro has been labelled far-right or alt-right on a number of occasions. Far right is thrown about quite casually it seems. However, they were very quick correct the notion that farrakhan was far-right. Here's where I made an assumption; they fely obliged to make the retraction because he is black, and therefore technically can't actually be a white supremacist. Which is true. But if they are willing to acknowledge that being a white supremacist is a prerequisite of being far-right, then surely Alex Jones doesn't fit that either, no?
To sum up, it was just comment on the way that term is used in the media often incorrectly.
https://twitter.com/brettsperminute/status/1111407148456525830
I'm not sure at the core what exactly it is that separates a guy that believes Judeo-Christian influences and white Western civilization is intrinsically superior to all others and needs to be preserved and remain unsullied by political force if needed(Shapiro), vs. the people that think all that but filter it through racist 8chan memes?
To me it's like jostling over whether it was fair to characterize Buckley as a white supremacist/racist in the 50's by arguing it's unfair because his views weren't rooted specifically in a belief of racial genetic superiority. Even though his sociologically rooted arguments produced alliances and prescriptions basically indistinguishable from the full throttle race science segregationists of the day.spoiler (click to show/hide)(https://i.imgflip.com/2bekbc.jpg)[close]
lol
I don't want to be the one to defend Ben Shapiro, but I have heard him explicitly differentiate between Muslims and Islam. There is a difference between saying all Muslims are the problem and saying there is a problem with Islam.
Like I said, Buckley vs Grantism. Sure, there are categorical, substantive, and rhetorical differences, but at the end of the day both want to keep the south segregated, or in Shapiro's case, bend over backwards to argue in defense or in favor of most of the same policies and prescriptions the Steven Miller's and David Horowitz's of the world advocate.
They're distinctions without much of a difference.
I don't want to be the one to defend Ben Shapiro
you quite clearly do
Lol got em
a fair and accurate assessment would be that shapiro is a homophobe
arguing otherwise is just bending over backwards to give him the most charitable interpretation, no matter how implausible or at odds with his own years of writing on the subject (ie something shapiro does not do when discussing the motives of those on the left)
I don't want to be the one to defend Ben Shapiro
you quite clearly do
Lol got em
To try to give a fair and accurate assessment of one's opponents rather than a biased one. You got me!
Lol u got rekt nerd
No they are. By that logic for instance there isn't really much difference between what Ben Shapiro thinks about homosexuality and what Isis thinks about homosexuality. Ultimately both believe it is a sin. The difference is, Isis wants to throw homosexuals off buildings and Ben Shapiro believes it is entirely the choice of the individual to live the life they see fit, he just believes it is a sin. That is a big difference in my mind. Sure, there are things I may disagree with Ben Shapiro on, but I can at least acknowledge the significance of that difference.
In the same way, there is a difference in believing all Muslims are the problem and must be deported and being critical about Islam.
Those would be distinctions with big differences.
No they are. By that logic for instance there isn't really much difference between what Ben Shapiro thinks about homosexuality and what Isis thinks about homosexuality. Ultimately both believe it is a sin. The difference is, Isis wants to throw homosexuals off buildings and Ben Shapiro believes it is entirely the choice of the individual to live the life they see fit, he just believes it is a sin. That is a big difference in my mind. Sure, there are things I may disagree with Ben Shapiro on, but I can at least acknowledge the significance of that difference.
In the same way, there is a difference in believing all Muslims are the problem and must be deported and being critical about Islam.
I mean you certainly have asserted there is a notable and substantive distinction between Shapiro and those on the consensus far/alt right in political public life(The Steven Millers, Bannon's, Horowitz's etc.), but you haven't really demonstrated that.
Seems to me that so far, anytime one of these policies pop up that advance the white nationalist agenda those political figures in those camps support/craft, there is a Shapiro piece close behind that might offer some minor cautions and gnaw at some minor details but generally defends and supports them. From the Muslim ban to Trump's separation of families. Distinctions without much difference imo.
But really, I don't honestly care to waste much more of the night on this. I just think the idea of going to bat to save the dignity of a label on a brain pill hustler that delivers intellectual snake oil to an audience looking for simplistic academic sounding arguments to reinforce their casual racism through a soothing helium voice is kind of amusing.
benji's boy bill buckleyi need receipts on this one
Will never get tired of the fact that some people think that not throwing gays off of buildings is something to worthy of praise.
Will never get tired of the fact that some people think that not throwing gays off of buildings is something to worthy of praise.
Who said that?
Funny, again, I thought the argument being made was that throwing gays of buildings is not basically the same as personally believing being gay is a sin. It's the throwing gays of buildings bit that is the significant difference here. It is the extreme aspect of it that makes it different.
Reminds me of an argument Douglas Murray made.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxfnq8Yeex0
Also, RE: Alex Jones.
It's true the guy was always a conspiracy theorist (and still is), but he's also categorically different now than he was under either Obama or Bush. He would criticize both of them, but he is firmly up Trump's ass and only spends time on right-wing conspiracy theories.
He is unquestionably far-right.
Will never get tired of the fact that some people think that not throwing gays off of buildings is something to worthy of praise.
Who said that?
Funny, again, I thought the argument being made was that throwing gays of buildings is not basically the same as personally believing being gay is a sin. It's the throwing gays of buildings bit that is the significant difference here. It is the extreme aspect of it that makes it different.
Reminds me of an argument Douglas Murray made.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxfnq8Yeex0
There are two things you don't seem to understand:
1) Not throwing gays off of buildings doesn't mean you can't still be a shitty person
2) As Mandark pointed out, people like Ben don't throw gay people off of buildings because it's, um, illegal to do so.
Also, RE: Alex Jones.
It's true the guy was always a conspiracy theorist (and still is), but he's also categorically different now than he was under either Obama or Bush. He would criticize both of them, but he is firmly up Trump's ass and only spends time on right-wing conspiracy theories.
He is unquestionably far-right.
Define far-right. That's the problem.
Also, RE: Alex Jones.
It's true the guy was always a conspiracy theorist (and still is), but he's also categorically different now than he was under either Obama or Bush. He would criticize both of them, but he is firmly up Trump's ass and only spends time on right-wing conspiracy theories.
He is unquestionably far-right.
Define far-right. That's the problem.
Well, it's not the only thing, by any means, but how about: someone who supports putting immigrant children in baby jails?
The term is often used to describe Nazism,[4] neo-Nazism, fascism, neo-fascism and other ideologies or organizations that feature ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, racist, anti-communist, or reactionary views.[5] These can lead to oppression and violence against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group,[6][7] nation, state[8] or ultraconservative traditional social institutions.[9]
are alt-right throwing gays off buildings?
see: milo yanapolous
Also, RE: Alex Jones.
It's true the guy was always a conspiracy theorist (and still is), but he's also categorically different now than he was under either Obama or Bush. He would criticize both of them, but he is firmly up Trump's ass and only spends time on right-wing conspiracy theories.
He is unquestionably far-right.
Define far-right. That's the problem.
Well, it's not the only thing, by any means, but how about: someone who supports putting immigrant children in baby jails?
I would need context.
The term is often used to describe Nazism,[4] neo-Nazism, fascism, neo-fascism and other ideologies or organizations that feature ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, racist, anti-communist, or reactionary views.[5] These can lead to oppression and violence against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group,[6][7] nation, state[8] or ultraconservative traditional social institutions.[9]
Which I would say the average person thinks when someone is described as far-right. I don't believe Alex Jones is a neo-Nazi, I don't believe he is a fascist and I don't believe he beieves white people are the master race. So no, I don't think Alex Jones is far-right. Another term I hear used nowadays is 'hard-right'. Maybe that is more fitting i don't know.
Also, RE: Alex Jones.
It's true the guy was always a conspiracy theorist (and still is), but he's also categorically different now than he was under either Obama or Bush. He would criticize both of them, but he is firmly up Trump's ass and only spends time on right-wing conspiracy theories.
He is unquestionably far-right.
Define far-right. That's the problem.
Well, it's not the only thing, by any means, but how about: someone who supports putting immigrant children in baby jails?
I would need context.
Well, for example - and I'm just spitballing here - the policy Trump has recently been enacting.
..for the past 3 years.QuoteThe term is often used to describe Nazism,[4] neo-Nazism, fascism, neo-fascism and other ideologies or organizations that feature ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, racist, anti-communist, or reactionary views.[5] These can lead to oppression and violence against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group,[6][7] nation, state[8] or ultraconservative traditional social institutions.[9]QuoteWhich I would say the average person thinks when someone is described as far-right. I don't believe Alex Jones is a neo-Nazi, I don't believe he is a fascist and I don't believe he beieves white people are the master race. So no, I don't think Alex Jones is far-right. Another term I hear used nowadays is 'hard-right'. Maybe that is more fitting i don't know.
So like, unless someone is a literal nazi, white nationalist/supremacist, or admits in their own words that they're a capital R racist, then they can't be "far right"?
What's really weird is that usually this kind of hair splitting occurs when libs call people nazis or fascists, but I don't see this complaint as much when it comes to calling someone "far right". And your distinction between that and "hard right" is also weird because one sounds just as bad as the other.
Again, you didn't answer my question. Is Trump someone you'd consider "far right"?
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/i-might-rape-mp-jess-phillips-says-ukip-candidate-carl-benjamin-rchlh3m86QuoteA Ukip candidate in the European elections was under pressure to withdraw yesterday after releasing a video suggesting he might rape a Labour MP.
Carl Benjamin, who had already been attacked for a social media message saying he “wouldn’t even rape” the Birmingham Yardley MP Jess Phillips, posted a video online suggesting that “with enough pressure I might cave”.
https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1124723640652709890
:dead :deadQuoteCarl Benjamin, who had already been attacked for a social media message saying he “wouldn’t even rape” the Birmingham Yardley MP Jess Phillips, posted a video online suggesting that “with enough pressure I might cave”.I don't know the context
you can't really give the ignorance frame for this one when his entire channel and platform is based on anti-sjw, specifically antifeminist reactionary commentary.
you can't really give the ignorance frame for this one when his entire channel and platform is based on anti-sjw, specifically antifeminist reactionary commentary.
Forgot I was talking to RElite people in here. I have no problem with anti-SJW types. So just so you know, it is not feigning ignorance I just literally don't know the context. Could be joking. probably was joking.
The funny thing is though, despite not knowing the context, I am pretty sure I still commented on it by saying he is stupid for saying it anyway. And that's mainly because politics is a completely different ball game. Everything you say will be used against you.
The point I was making is that the whole "he should know not to say that" is ??? since his entire persona centers around "saying that"
https://twitter.com/ArmchairEgghead/status/1111987542100975623but muslims should be shaded for muslims too though :doge
I find his hosting of Firing Line to be perfectly cromulent and generally (and perhaps most importantly considering that Buckley himself is quite blatantly opinionated) a good way for a host to conduct themselves for such a show along with the format of the program being near ideal. I also think he was pretty obviously great at word usage, his best book by far is the late in life one that's barely about politics and has a whole chapter of him complaining about People Magazine after going to the doctor or something to the point that he went out and bought a copy so his complaints about the celebrities who he knew nothing of could be accurate. (If it's me finding his overly deliberate "upper class" persona to be amusing, sue me. I liked the ignorant ramblings of his successor Jay Nordlinger* too.)benji's boy bill buckleyi need receipts on this one
+1
Buckley didn't exactly realize when he stood athwart history to yell "stop!" he had essentially already accepted the premise.
I'm not sure if I've ever stated an affinity for his politics except where there are probably obvious manners in which we cross over much like I do with any post-Goldwater conservative influenced by his (and Reagan's) usage of libertarian rhetoric in service of the Republican cause.
You don't have to be a social studies warrior or RE-lite to think Sargon is a massive and unfunny cunt who basically only says stupid things when he isn't disastering history or saying something blatantly racist because he thinks it's clever "secret knowledge" that only insiders have access to. His Joe Rogan (not SJW land at all) appearance is really the best evidence of Sargon as a thing. He refuses to actually elaborate on anything stupid Joe asks about "because he has to catch a plane" even after Joe continues to say he'll get him a later plane ticket and completely pay for it, a car and any potential lodging so he can stick around to talk more. And all Sargon does is keep whining about how he's going to be late for his plane until Joe changes the topic. This happens more than once!
But anti-feminist isn't just a label it's an ideology which carries with it a certain content so it's perfectly reasonable to have a problem with someone based on that alone if you disagree with that ideology.
Like it's personally reasonable if, say, you believe in liberal democracy, to have a problem with someone who calls themselves a monarchist or whatever simply based on their associating themselves with that idea.
But anti-feminist isn't just a label it's an ideology which carries with it a certain content so it's perfectly reasonable to have a problem with someone based on that alone if you disagree with that ideology.
Like it's personally reasonable if, say, you believe in liberal democracy, to have a problem with someone who calls themselves a monarchists imply based on their associating themselves with that idea. You don't have to go to their youtube channel and hear them talk about how great the Hapsburgs were or whatever.
there's different types of feminism
and plenty of crossover among ideological foes at timeThes, TERFs and Jordan Peterson would kill each other outside of the days of the week they aren't joining arms to fight against the transgenders
All this terf talk reminded me of this :lol
https://twitter.com/Friginator/status/1123699622482993159spoiler (click to show/hide)SHUT THE FUCK UP TERF <<<<<<< SHUT THE FUCK UP LIBERAL[close]
What's the difference between a feminist and a womanist
Christina Hoff Sommers
Camille Paglia
And I do agree that basing your whole identity around being an anti-feminist does come across as having some kind of deep-seated grudge against women. However, also, with some people it isn't necessarily something they have labelled themselves, per se, but rather something foisted upon them by others. They are 'anti-feminist' simply by being critical of feminism and therefore have been labelled as such.
And I do agree that basing your whole identity around being an anti-feminist does come across as having some kind of deep-seated grudge against women. However, also, with some people it isn't necessarily something they have labelled themselves, per se, but rather something foisted upon them by others. They are 'anti-feminist' simply by being critical of feminism and therefore have been labelled as such.
And I do agree that basing your whole identity around being an anti-feminist does come across as having some kind of deep-seated grudge against women. However, also, with some people it isn't necessarily something they have labelled themselves, per se, but rather something foisted upon them by others. They are 'anti-feminist' simply by being critical of feminism and therefore have been labelled as such.
So...these people themselves say that they're against feminism, but don't consider themselves "anti-feminist"? So when someone like Sargon says "feminism is cancer", the "anti-feminist" label is just something that their enemies "foisted" upon them?
she called TayTay an Obnoxious Nazi Barbie
:bolo
(https://i.imgur.com/aXNW6fm.jpg) :-[
What feminist am I supposed to like? Just curious.
Also, RE: Alex Jones.
It's true the guy was always a conspiracy theorist (and still is), but he's also categorically different now than he was under either Obama or Bush. He would criticize both of them, but he is firmly up Trump's ass and only spends time on right-wing conspiracy theories.
He is unquestionably far-right.
Define far-right. That's the problem.
What feminist am I supposed to like? Just curious.
Probably a feminist whose audience isn't actually mostly made up of, um... men?
paglia's a climate truther iirc, which is as good a heuristic as any to spot someone with poor judgment
Anyone who starts a sentence with "The left"
An argument stands by its own merits, right?
An argument stands by its own merits, right?
nope
haven't actually read Deleuzedont know how much that’s actually gonna help you
Is the serial killer leaning on his experience as a serial killer to back up the claim? :thinkingAn argument stands by its own merits, right?
nope
I'm going to spare you the need to explain yourself... I will just explain what that means to you. lol
-Serial killer says X.
-Someone decides X is wrong because a serial killer said it.
The fact that a serial killer said it has no bearing on whether X is right or wrong. X stands on its own merits.
Virtual Challenges:rofl
Over a four-month period, you will tackle a series of virtual and real-world challenges from home, guided by a successful entrepreneur and paired with a committed peer, preparing you for the on-campus portion of the Acton program in Austin, Texas.
Acton School of Business Residence in Austin, Texas
During the five-month on-campus portion of the Acton MBA in Entrepreneurship, you will be led by experienced business leaders through grueling 100-hour weeks of simulations, hands-on exercises, and Socratic discussions. In every challenge, you will stand in the shoes of an entrepreneur, making difficult real-world decisions.
As personality grifts grow, there's always some component where you pay for xxxclusive access. This can take the form of a retreat, a camp, a seminar etc. The periphery may give you microtransactions here or there, maybe tickets for a talk in their city, but the truly faithful will open their wallets all the waywow low key shots fired at me for not keeping this thread up with souls transferred through the interdimensional pillar (http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=46246.0)
:rejoice
Was it Mandark who said this is "hotep shit for white people"?
jungiancel
Dr Peterson, the following is an unedited transcript of the email exchange I have had with Acton since being accepted as a Peterson Fellow. I'm confused. Your message of responsibility speaks to me deeply and it does not seem very "responsible" to ask someone to uproot their life, move across the country, lose a year of wages, go into $65,000+ in debt, all for a program that refuses to answer basic questions about your level of involvement. The Acton MBA seems like a wonderful standard program but Fellows applied for this because of YOUR NAME, not because of Acton. If you just signed off on this as a branding deal I'm profoundly disappointed. I'm flummoxed that you haven't mentioned it once in a public interview that I can find in the past months, not even your recent Q&A.
I spent well over 20 hours working on my submissions for this Fellowship. I'm so sad this time seems to have been wasted.
Perhaps you really are selecting for those "most comfortable with ambiguity" and they will get a chance to work with your team on the revolutionary online university project, I hope that's true, and I wish I could have been a part of it. I can not and will not risk my family's future for something that appears so outwardly unprofessional and sketchy. I hope you understand that I have personally contacted more than a dozen Fellowship Recipients who were fully accepted and rejected the offer for the same reasons I have. We are very unhappy and disillusioned. We are some of your most devoted fans. We deserve answers and an apology. I await your response.
My first email below was in response to my acceptance, I'm happy to provide you screenshots, I wish not to post them publicly to avoid sharing personally identifying information:
CEO (Jeff Sandefer):Hi Topher, I’m replying for Chris, so he can focus on helping the last few applicants with extra financial aid and spend some time with his family. We appreciate the time you’ve spent in the audition process and hope you’ve gotten some value from it. And I applaud your skepticism; it’s a valuable trait. However, it doesn’t sound as if this is the right opportunity for you. The work we’ll be doing together requires a tolerance for ambiguity and will be messy. We’ve got a terrific team and a extraordinary group coming to Austin, but it’s a pioneering bunch. We don’t know many of the answers because emergent growth is unpredictable and we’ll be co-creating the future as we go. As to your questions, there’s a purpose behind every step in the audition process, because with each choice, each of us learns more. For example, we needed to ask for quick turnarounds because we were surprised when over 2300 people answered the call for only 50 spots. With such a limited number of fellowships, we had to rapidly process finalists to assemble the best cohort possible and give each person as timely a response as possible as we filled the last few precious spots. And the last thing we needed was more outreach from Dr. Peterson when we already had far too many qualified people on the waitlist. If you remain interested I’d hope you’d follow what the initial band of Peterson Fellows accomplishes, and if it seems attractive, re-audition for a later cohort where there’s more information available and less risk. Until then, we wish you all the best, Jeff
Does anyone else think there’s something mighty suspicious up with this Acton MBA thing Dr. Peterson is now advertising?
I got the email and jumped at the opportunity, applied immediately, got a reply from some “master teacher” saying my replies were consistent with top candidates and I would be auto forwarded to next round. “That’s cute” I thought.
Reached out to a friend, she applied, exact same thing happened, and we filled that form out in very different ways.
So I went on the site, filled out the form entirely randomly, put my name down as something like “w33dsmoker”, put options in the boxes that weren’t even possible, repeated this three times. Every single application had the same thing “wow congratulations auto forwarded to next round”, top candidate.
But it’s not even just that.
This course starts in February, and seems to be pretty much full time. For a man who’s preaching responsibility and getting your life together this seems like a rather large contradiction in terms. “Please uproot your entire life in 3 months”.
In addition there’s literally no detailed information as to what this course is, where it came from, and how involved Dr. Peterson actually is. If at all.
Does anyone feel something is up here? Perhaps some data gathering exercise, something gone massive wrong, or just a selling of the “Peterson” name to some institution?
I just completed step 2 and preparing for step 3. You need to provide professional history, educational history, link to your LinkedIn profile, video response to a dilemma they pose and a Wonderlic test (link provided). I will complete this and let you know what happens next.
I might be able to offer some perspective. I too have been accepted, but I have some "ties" to the Acton founder, Jeff Sandefer.
So it should be known that Jeff Sandefer is a somewhat conservative "activist." He founded the Acton Institute, which is a think tank that promotes individual liberty, and the Acton Academy, a homeschooling program that's based in the Hero's Journey (and challenging the modern public school system). He has been on the board of the Texas Public Policy Foundation, which is a conservative/libertarian group that advocates for economic freedom and individual liberty in Texas. He's spoken at Freedom Works too.
I spoke to someone who is personal friends with Sandefer (I promised not to disclose their name, so I'll just refer to them as "Earl"). Earl is like Sandefer - a very wealthy entrepreneur. From what Earl said, it sounds like the program is trying to get students to be able to have at least one one-on-one session with JBP. But it doesn't sound like JBP will be very involved besides that. Sandefer is a big believer in a lot of what Peterson announces. Note that Sandefer started Acton b/c he was fed up with the tenured business academics standing in the way of innovation.
It may be that JBP just accepted the deal knowing Sandefer is a big believer in individual liberties (he's spoken at FreedomWorks), and that Sandefer's school is different enough and not to bureaucratic to be able to accept JBP's name.
So, take what you will from this, but I figured I'd add this.
You got a voicemail and everything? All I got was the following email:
"Dear ________
Congratulations again on making it to the finals of the Peterson Fellowships. Because of the high volume of top quality auditions, we’re having to make some difficult decisions as we get to the final selections and hope you will take a special test recommended by Dr. Peterson’s team to help us with these final selections.
Are you up to the challenge? If so, here are your next steps:
Watch this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwGDnSWmqhM
Take this assessment within the next 72 hours (please allow at least 45 minutes to complete the assessment).
Sincerely,
Acton MBA Admissions Team"
What do you think of this? It doesn't seem to resemble your experience at all. I'd like to find out whats on the other end of the assessment but I wont be able to complete it until tomorrow. Maybe they had their initial draft picks, and then their second ones? I guess I'd fall into that camp ?
I met today with my now three-person team to further develop the online university. We're employing a variety of statistical and computational strategies aimed at mapping out the most relevant domains of knowledge, as well as developing technology that will help people assess their knowledge in those domains, so they will be able to determine what they know and what they have yet to learn.
Initially – we’ll try to get beta users to do this to begin with – we want you to submit questions and we want you to submit the source of the answer to the questions. And then we’ll put the questions up and have people vote on their utility but also answer them, and then we can rank-order the questions in terms of difficulty.
You can do a process called item response theory. So, imagine you take a multiple choice test, and then you give a score on it, and then you analyze each of the questions: the good questions will be answered correctly by the people who did well on the test. And so you can analyze every single question for its utility as a marker for the knowledge domain. So you can organize questions – if they’re contributed by a large number of people – with regards to the utility of the questions. and so, we envision – to begin with – to set up a system that would enable people to map their domains of knowledge and then to chart a pathway to learning more. So that’s one set of modules, let’s say. We also want to figure out how we can help people learn to write and to speak and to think and to read, so there will be a knowledge domain and skill domain.
Now, how can you help? At the moment you can’t. it’s not easy to have people help on things. It’s hard to organize. But we do want to use as many people as we possibly can. Because one of the things we want to build into the system is a distributed administration, so that it’s not dependent on any one to administer…. So that it’s self-organizing and self-improving, so that the system will just get better and better as people use it. And so we’re going to try to build that into the architecture.
Now, I don’t know if we can pull this off. And like I said, it’s premature to even talk about it. But that’s the sort of thing we’ve started to discuss. As soon as we can possibly manage it, we’ll start inviting people to contribute, because we can build huge databases of questions very, very rapidly if we have lots of users. And if we get the statistical processes right, we can really start to map out these domains of knowledge.
So we’re thinking that would be a good way of making testing non-punitive. ‘Cause if you’re at high school or university and you take a test and you fail, it’s like someone’s beating you with a stick. Your ignorance is revealed, but in a catastrophic way. This would do it differently. It’d say, “Look: you know about as much about biology to put you above 20% of the people who’ve done this exam. So, that’s not too bad, it’s not nothing. You’re better than 1 in 5. But if you want to know more about it, here’s a pathway forward. You spend 15 hours on this and you’ll put yourself up in the 30th percentile.” And you can do that with all sorts of different domains. And so hopefully we can make those pathways to knowledge available to everyone…
So the goals are:
To educate the largest number of people possible
With the minimal possible overhead and cost
In the most efficient possible way
That’s the mission statement. And I think we’ve got the technology - especially if people collaborate on this - to do that... to make a deadly, deadly learning system.
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1126185463226687488
:girlaff :snob
I have read three of them in an ESL class. AMA
I wish I'd had to read Moby Dick in high school.
Is Jordan gonna be there or is this a Kamp Krusty situation?let's just say you don't want to get your hopes up about seeing that fireworks factory
I wish I'd had to read Moby Dick in high school.
What did you have to read instead? Pasternak? :doge
I wish I'd had to read Moby Dick in high school.
What did you have to read instead? Pasternak? :doge
The year we studied U.S. literature we read The Scarlet Letter and The Great Gatsby.
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1126185463226687488
:girlaff :snob
Or: The five books everybody has to read in high school English class.
✔️ Learn how to make money....by starting a Patreon. :doge
✔️ Learn how to make money....by starting a Patreon. :doge
Here’s how this sort of thing typically works. A liberal says something decent about a person who has said things not in keeping with the liberal agenda; Twitter trolls drag comments out of context to suggest that this person is actually an evil human being; liberal retracts. That’s not unusual. It’s now happened to Kevin Williamson, Bari Weiss, Daniella Greenbaum, Sam Harris, Bret Weinstein, Dave Rubin, Jason Riley, Heather MacDonald, Jordan Peterson, Charles Murray, and many others.
https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1126882091868749824
Quote from: Ben ShapiroHere’s how this sort of thing typically works. A liberal says something decent about a person who has said things not in keeping with the liberal agenda; Twitter trolls drag comments out of context to suggest that this person is actually an evil human being; liberal retracts. That’s not unusual. It’s now happened to Kevin Williamson, Bari Weiss, Daniella Greenbaum, Sam Harris, Bret Weinstein, Dave Rubin, Jason Riley, Heather MacDonald, Jordan Peterson, Charles Murray, and many others.
:dead
Lmao this dude
Pushed heavily for Britain to enter the Afghanistan and Iraq wars, hired the UK's foremost Holocaust denier to translate Goebell's diaries, climate change denier, AIDS denier, all around shit head by every single account about him online.
I don't really care. Not everything has to be a purity test.
Ah yes... The purity test of..... *checks notes* not fucking with people after they show support for Hungarian fascists
"The mainstream media doesn't dare to debate!"
*mainstream media interviews*
"HALP HALP I'm being harassed!"
Stro went and googled him and found almost all of his terrible reactionary positions in the time you spent typing that up :rejoice
Instutions such as governments, intelligence services, news media and banks were considered trustworthy.That illusion disolved quickly past 2008.
as an sjw i find characterizing bill maher as someone capable of entertaining very offensive :maf
I think I'd rather watch a Conservative Comedy (TM) show than listen to Bill Maher for even 10 seconds. Just the worst.
I could rewrite it with wrestling terms so you are able to understand it. :hulkthe Beer Hall Screwjob ushering in the attitüde Epoche :bow2
The baby IDWers love the gamer word, folks.
https://twitter.com/IGD_News/status/1126670175384662016
If shapiro cam into a realm that reflected me, he'd run. Molyneux sees us horsefuckers and runs straight at us.
https://twitter.com/SebGorka/status/1128289507902730241
Steven Crowder voiced Brain in Arthur.
Alan "Brain" Powers (voiced by Luke Reid 1996–1999; Steven Crowder 2000–2001; Alex Hood 2002–2005; Paul-Stuart Brown 2004–2007; James Buckholder 2006; Lyle O'Donohue 2008–2012; Siam Yu 2012–2014; Max Friedman Cole 2014-2018; Evan Blaylock 2019-present) is a bear of Senegalese descent,[1] and celebrates Kwanzaa.lol
https://twitter.com/GamerTakes/status/1128363254689009670
:badass
I have a friend who very readily admits to being bad at games, and fairly frequently watches let's play videos or watches their partner play a game which they wouldn't be able to progress through themselves.
Maybe some companies are too financially stressed to implement multiple difficulty levels (I don't know shit about vidya development) but apart from that I don't see what the downside would be.
I have a friend who very readily admits to being bad at games, and fairly frequently watches let's play videos or watches their partner play a game which they wouldn't be able to progress through themselves.
Maybe some companies are too financially stressed to implement multiple difficulty levels (I don't know shit about vidya development) but apart from that I don't see what the downside would be.
Eh. For me it’s a downward slope. First they implement easy mode. Then the next few games they try to strip it of difficulty entirely. I’ve seen it happen it so many times I no longer support it. Happened to SMT. Here’s this hardcore dungeon crawl series. There is only two modes: normal or hard. Then they add an easy mode in P3. Okay. But now they take away a key feature that made the simulation work so your choices have more weight in the tired feature in P4. But then with P4 Persona series starts to get really popular. So this more stripped down dungeon crawler becomes the developers norm. Why? Because it sells better. So then they decide eventually to Persona-ize the main, more hardcore, series and make it easier to appeal to people. Now you’ve got people complaining about how the next Persona shouldn’t have game over if MC dies. Why? Because they’ll always want a little more. Now the cycle is complete and that really deep dungeon crawl series becomes a shadow of itself. Made purely to entertain the masses. They’re no longer niche, but they’re no longer as good as they used to be.
And now these people want From to settle. If they did the same thing would likely happen. It’s what happened to The Elder Scrolls as well. Bethesda Fallout. From Fallout 3 to 4 they made it even more brain dead to appeal to more people. From rpg post nuclear sim to killing the hardest enemy in the series 30 minutes within starting. Final Fantasy too. “I don’t like turn based combat so I think it’s good that the Final Fantasy VII Remake isn’t because that means I’ll play it despite the fact the original is turn based.” Changing your identity to appeal to players that don’t even like you. Once you start giving away parts of your soul to try to appease people that don’t even like you, you’ll never stop trying to appeal to people who don’t like you.
Never give them a quarter. Never appeal to people who want it easier or “I’d like to play but I can’t.” It’s always a death knell.
:confused FF7 has braindead easy gameplay, basically baby's first RPG and what you whine about compared to what came prior - I wouldn't be surprised if the new one is actually a little less baby-ish in its difficulty.
As to Mandark question I guess the answer is "designer's intent" really. Most games are tests of wits or skill for one, and sometimes difficulty is a core pillar of the experience one way or the other. I don't know why developers should settle for that if they don't want too when designing hard, less approachable games carries its own handicap with regards to commercial appeal.
As to Mandark question I guess the answer is "designer's intent" really. Most games are tests of wits or skill for one, and sometimes difficulty is a core pillar of the experience one way or the other. I don't know why developers should settle for that if they don't want too when designing hard, less approachable games carries its own handicap with regards to commercial appeal.
Because they aren't artists grappling with The Big Stuff (TM), they're manufacturers of mass media.
I play games on easy and skip the cutscenes these days. I'm fully in it for the graphics and reject all notions of games as art
https://twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1130116461278703617?
Link to podcast.
As to Mandark question I guess the answer is "designer's intent" really. Most games are tests of wits or skill for one, and sometimes difficulty is a core pillar of the experience one way or the other. I don't know why developers should settle for that if they don't want too when designing hard, less approachable games carries its own handicap with regards to commercial appeal.
Because they aren't artists grappling with The Big Stuff (TM), they're manufacturers of mass media.
Marketplace of Sexual Ideas
a big common thread among these IDW folk is that they want to restore traditional gender norms. They basically want women to go back to being housewives, pop out and raise babies and take up knitting, etc.
I play games on easy and skip the cutscenes these days. I'm fully in it for the graphics and reject all notions of games as art
https://twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1130116461278703617?
I endorse this.
I don’t support punch a Nazi, but I’ll gladly throw a drink on them.
I play games on easy and skip the cutscenes these days. I'm fully in it for the graphics and reject all notions of games as art
https://twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1130116461278703617?
I endorse this.
I don’t support punch a Nazi, but I’ll gladly throw a drink on them.
While both have reasons to criticise them, neither of them are Nazis.
the group is dumb to begin with, so I don't really care about lumping people of their ilk together.
I play games on easy and skip the cutscenes these days. I'm fully in it for the graphics and reject all notions of games as art
https://twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1130116461278703617?
I endorse this.
I don’t support punch a Nazi, but I’ll gladly throw a drink on them.
While both have reasons to criticise them, neither of them are Nazis.
My bad. Thought that was Richard Spencer. I don't remember nazi's facial features.
As to Mandark question I guess the answer is "designer's intent" really. Most games are tests of wits or skill for one, and sometimes difficulty is a core pillar of the experience one way or the other. I don't know why developers should settle for that if they don't want too when designing hard, less approachable games carries its own handicap with regards to commercial appeal.
Because they aren't artists grappling with The Big Stuff (TM), they're manufacturers of mass media.
I'm not sure what games potentially classify as is pertinent to that debate really ? I don't think it's too iconoclast to say that most solitaire / one player games are generally meant as a challenge (achieve victory conditions under whatever set of arbitrary rules and conditions were designed) involving luck, skill, practice or wits. I don't think you can downsize rules or the challenge indefinitely to accommodate everyone without breaking many game designs and diluting their whole raison d'être to nothing.
And I would say that difficulty for videogames can be a "narrative" tool as well (regardless of how artful you would consider the "story" or "propos").
Games are entertainment, non-essential and so plentiful in every form and difficulty for every sort of public that I don't really understand why From should have to include an easy mode, just like I wouldn't expect a 6 year old kid to be able to beat and enjoy Korsun Pocket.
:yeshrug
Milkshakes unnecessarily exploit animals. We should throw rotten tomatoes at reactionaries instead
https://twitter.com/SamHarrisOrg/status/1130163073082224640
https://twitter.com/SamHarrisOrg/status/1130163073082224640
"medications factory" instead of "pharmaceuticals plant" :-\Didn't even notice. Dude must not be a native speaker either.
Too lazy to look this up, but I'd drop a fiver on Sam Harris condoning actual assassinations in the so-called War on Terror, either outright or through some tedious argument about exigent circumstances demanding situational morals.Pretty sure he views them as a (regrettable?) necessity. I'm extrapolating from his views/justification of torture.
The only way to rule out collateral damage would be to refuse to fight wars under any circumstances. As a foreign policy, this would leave us with something like the absolute pacifism of Gandhi. While pacifism in this form can constitute a direct confrontation with injustice (and requires considerable bravery), it is only applicable to a limited range of human conflicts. Where it is not applicable, it is seems flagrantly immoral. We would do well to reflect on Gandhi’s remedy for the Holocaust: he believed that the Jews should have committed mass suicide, because this “would have aroused the world and the people of Germany to Hitler’s violence.” We might wonder what a world full of pacifists would have done once it had grown “aroused”—commit suicide as well? There seems no question that if all the good people in the world adopted Gandhi’s ethics, the thugs would inherit the earth.https://samharris.org/in-defense-of-torture/
So we can now ask, if we are willing to act in a way that guarantees the misery and death of some considerable number of innocent children, why spare the rod with known terrorists?
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1131271997357469696
nice, gottem
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1131271997357469696
nice, gottem
wouldn't it be more logical:
- alt-rights love milk
- let's feed them some milk
?
https://twitter.com/SamHarrisOrg/status/1131263791415595009:mindblown
he got btfo'd by william lane craig of all people in a few sentences during a debate iirc, i wouldn't go looking for much logical consistency in anything harris sayshttps://twitter.com/SamHarrisOrg/status/1131263791415595009:mindblown
how do
what wouldn't
i don't see
but that doesn't
https://twitter.com/SamHarrisOrg/status/1131263791415595009:mindblown
how do
what wouldn't
i don't see
but that doesn't
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9mspMJTNEY&feature=youtu.be
Far from being ‘paid support’ as their desperate critics suggest, the Grants are both highly intelligent Brexiteersoh...okay?
I don't get what the "revelation" is supposed to be?QuoteFar from being ‘paid support’ as their desperate critics suggest, the Grants are both highly intelligent Brexiteersoh...okay?
Sergeant MacNaughton alleged that the unarmed man was shot while attempting to escape, while the man claimed he was ordered by MacNaughton to climb over a fence to the flank of the patrol and was shot by him when he did so."Good enough for one, two would have looked suspicious...killed while attempting escape. Now that's convincing for both." (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2wBtcmE5W8)
MacNaughton – who was in his mid-30s at the time – was found not guilty of both charges by the Belfast City Commission on September 5, 1974.
The judge ruled that the evidence of the civilian was "unsatisfactory and inconsistent in certain details", whereas the evidence of the accused and other soldiers "fitted together and was not mutually contradictory".
one of my ambitions for this thread is that it'll transition from the more IRL wank dad analysis to Extremely Online YouTube discourse of Nazis because they really are quite something.we gotta start with some bridge material first, like racist youtubers posting wank daddery
Be sure to show your trad wife all your books, buddy!
Being able to put all that shit aside by being Saved by the Lord :lawd
Speaking of right sex pathologies, RIP PUA. Killed by Denmark or whatever post-Viking culture it was that owned you so hard with the social fascist welfare state that you broke kayfabe to mewl about it.
(https://i.imgur.com/P5nqmeF.jpg)
Be sure to show your trad wife all your books, buddy!
what if the masturbation, oral sex, anal sex and etc. is with your married wife? wouldn't that be sexual activity while married? this is too confusing
I don't even think a Dawkins type would say religion.of course they would
Trademark Advice
PureKino - this is Mehow's own approach to attraction. According to him, all you need to attract a woman is influential kinesthetics. Composing of verbal prowess (words) and a lot of touching (kino).
Value Velocity - this is a concept that Mehow developed based on his own experience. It states that as long as the topic you are talking to a woman with has value, it would take less than 10 seconds for attraction to set in.
Solo winging - Mehow firmly believes that though having a wingman can sometimes be valuable, solo winging can get you much better results.
The Microloop
Solo Game:mindblown
AKA Solo Sarging, Solo Winging Quick Definition: When a PUA is out and picking up girls by himself, without any friends…
Value Velocity - this is a concept that Mehow developed based on his own experience. It states that as long as the topic you are talking to a woman with has value, it would take less than 10 seconds for attraction to set in
Concepts and theories taught by Adam include:
Entourage game in which being surrounded by many beautiful women will make you appear attractive and, in turn, allow you to attract other desirable women.
One way which Adam explains attraction is by using this formula which represents events leading to someone being attracted to you if they had not been at first site:
(C-R) + Q + S = A
C = Comfort
R = Rapport
Q = Qualification
S = Sexual Escalation
A = Attraction
(https://i.imgur.com/2OlkUM8.png)
If you've been following my work for a while, you'll notice I've been warning up to faith in God over the years, especially the past year. This is due to witnessing the growth of evil in society, my personal experiences with unbridled hedonism, and my sister's death. This reached a climax when I received a message while on mushrooms which cemented that faith further, an experience which I will share in the future after I'm done processing it.
Many comments from men said how the black pill was a gateway to the God pill. There seems to be a progression:
Blue pill: Ignorance, denial of nature
Red pill: Truth through materialism (muscles, women, money, status)
Black pill: Acceptance of one's powerlessness, withdrawal from materialist society
God pill: Submission to God's will
The God pill does feel like the final destination, where life becomes about asking Him for help and performing His will in a way that embraces good.
Many comments from men said how the black pill was a gateway to the God pill. There seems to be a progression:The Interdimensional PILLar: Trigger the Awakening NOW!
Blue pill: Ignorance, denial of nature
Red pill: Truth through materialism (muscles, women, money, status)
Black pill: Acceptance of one's powerlessness, withdrawal from materialist society
God pill: Submission to God's will
The history of the modern world:rejoice
1990 - 1999: Green pill: No worries now, only Super Nintendo, Pokemon and LEGO
1999 - 2002: Blue pill: Ignorance, denial of nature, Sonic Adventure + Sonic Adventure 2
2003 - 2015: Yellow pill: Be very afraid, war, death, destruction, terrorism, social media, Gears of War
2015 - 2017: Red pill: Truth through materialism (muscles, women, money, status), TRUMP
2017 - 2018: Black pill: Acceptance of one's powerlessness, withdrawal from materialist society
2019 - 2024: cLoWn WoRlD, end of hope, degeneracy, false nostalgia, B E A S T M O D E
2024 - 2030: MACHINE WORLD, New World Order Deluxe, end of love, end of music, breed machines
2031 - 20XX: rebellion, cilmate meltdown, interdimensional travel, ENLIGHTMENT
https://twitter.com/MisterAntiBully/status/1131700041184358405
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Too lazy to look this up, but I'd drop a fiver on Sam Harris condoning actual assassinations in the so-called War on Terror, either outright or through some tedious argument about exigent circumstances demanding situational morals.Pretty sure he views them as a (regrettable?) necessity. I'm extrapolating from his views/justification of torture.QuoteThe only way to rule out collateral damage would be to refuse to fight wars under any circumstances. As a foreign policy, this would leave us with something like the absolute pacifism of Gandhi. While pacifism in this form can constitute a direct confrontation with injustice (and requires considerable bravery), it is only applicable to a limited range of human conflicts. Where it is not applicable, it is seems flagrantly immoral. We would do well to reflect on Gandhi’s remedy for the Holocaust: he believed that the Jews should have committed mass suicide, because this “would have aroused the world and the people of Germany to Hitler’s violence.” We might wonder what a world full of pacifists would have done once it had grown “aroused”—commit suicide as well? There seems no question that if all the good people in the world adopted Gandhi’s ethics, the thugs would inherit the earth.https://samharris.org/in-defense-of-torture/
So we can now ask, if we are willing to act in a way that guarantees the misery and death of some considerable number of innocent children, why spare the rod with known terrorists?
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1132633216135958528
:lol
I mean, all he says against the idea of torture is just spending a few sentences throughout the entire piece saying it's wrong, and if we didn't have to do it, he'd be happy. But that's not really saying....anything. He's basically saying "Torture is definitely bad and reprehensible, but with that being said, here's a 2,000 word argument on why it might actually be good and we should do it."
Maybe some of the smarter people here can tell me what I'm misinterpreting.
Americans are losing interest in the Civil War—or at least they are losing interest in learning about it and visiting historic battle sites. The Wall Street Journal reported recently that the country’s “five major Civil War battlefield parks—Gettysburg, Antietam, Shiloh, Chickamauga/Chattanooga, and Vicksburg—had a combined 3.1 million visitors in 2018, down from about 10.2 million in 1970.” Gettysburg, America’s most famous and hallowed battlefield, drew fewer than a million visitors last year, and just 14 percent of the visitor total in 1970.
In addition to fewer tourists, the number of Civil War re-enactors is also declining. Many are growing old, and younger men are not stepping in to replenish their ranks. As one 68-year-old re-enactor, who recently helped organize a recreation of the Battle of Resaca in Georgia, told the Journal, “The younger generations are not taught to respect history, and they lose interest in it.”
But it’s not just that young people are not taught to respect history. They are often not taught history at all. To the extent they are, they are told that American history is a parade of horribles: slavery, genocide, bigotry, greed—a story above all of injustice and oppression, perpetrated by the powerful against the weak.
No wonder then, that recent public interest in the Civil War has mostly taken the form of a push to remove Confederate monuments from public places and rename buildings and roads bearing the names of Confederate leaders. We hear much about removing and renaming these days, but almost nothing about building more and better monuments, or reinvigorating public interest and education about the war.
New Liberal tears gun oil traps the carbonwow, no thanks commies :donot
Years and years and years of shitting on Billy Beanbrain in MLB threads vindicated. :rejoice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqkkfBAPyNMThis is like tripping into the lair of a Bond villain and he starts to lay out his plans. :doge
:rejoice
https://twitter.com/curaffairs/status/1133867163956199424Some of the pieces he links to are :whoo
Prime Minister Viktor Orbán on Thursday met Canadian political scientist and psychologist Jordan Peterson in Budapest to discuss current political issues, the prime minister’s press cheif told MTI on Thursday.
Peterson, who teaches clinical psychology at the university of Toronto, and Orbán agreed that illegal migration was “unnecessary and dangerous”, and talked of political correctness, which they said made “sensible public discussions impossible”, Bertalan Havasi said. Political correctness is the “invention of a small, ideologically driven group,” they said.
Peterson and Orbán also touched on a current tendency to “minimise” the crimes committed under Communist regimes. They cited an “infamous” speech by European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker, in which they said he “defended Karl Marx”, Havasi said.
https://hungarytoday.hu/orban-meets-jordan-peterson-in-budapest/QuotePeterson and Orbán also touched on a current tendency to “minimise” the crimes committed under Communist regimes. They cited an “infamous” speech by European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker, in which they said he “defended Karl Marx”, Havasi said.
https://twitter.com/LizardRumsfeld/status/1134537636159393792
I've been in 20XX
fall back nerds!
https://twitter.com/bstalkerbynatur/status/1136383887490334721
Former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon’s plans for a far-right nationalist school have been halted by Italian authorities. Bannon hoped to run the school out of an ancient monastery near Rome, but officials say they are revoking rights to the grounds for failure to maintain the site and pay fees.
In a statement released Friday, Gianluca Vacca, an official with Italy’s cultural ministry, said that it was the government’s “duty” to revoke the rights to the Certosa de Trisulti monastery that the Human Dignity Institute, a far-right Catholic think tank Bannon partnered with, had obtained. Vacca cited the fact the group failed to pay proper concessions and said it was determined that the institute did not have any experience in cultural heritage custodianship. The ministry also voiced concerns that repairs had not begun that would make the historic property available for public use.
Bannon, who once served as President Trump’s chief strategist, had hoped to train mid-career students “looking to do something different” in the rhetoric and strategy of far-right nationalism at the school. He promised the monastery would become a “gladiator school” and planned to call it the “Academy for the Judeo-Christian West.”
In response to the Italian government’s statement, Bannon signaled that he is not ready to give up on his dream of opening the school and said, “The fight for Trisulti is a microcosm of the fight for the Judeo-Christian West.”
Further complicating Bannon’s plan is the assertion by Italian authorities that a bank document the Human Dignity Institute submitted in acquiring rights to use the monastery had been forged.
Is right to dunk on someone with cognitive limitations or for their lack of intelligence? Like Sam Seder dunks on Dave Rubin all the time.
https://hungarytoday.hu/orban-meets-jordan-peterson-in-budapest/QuotePrime Minister Viktor Orbán on Thursday met Canadian political scientist and psychologist Jordan Peterson in Budapest to discuss current political issues, the prime minister’s press cheif told MTI on Thursday.
Peterson, who teaches clinical psychology at the university of Toronto, and Orbán agreed that illegal migration was “unnecessary and dangerous”, and talked of political correctness, which they said made “sensible public discussions impossible”, Bertalan Havasi said. Political correctness is the “invention of a small, ideologically driven group,” they said.
Peterson and Orbán also touched on a current tendency to “minimise” the crimes committed under Communist regimes. They cited an “infamous” speech by European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker, in which they said he “defended Karl Marx”, Havasi said.
I don't know if you're talking about a hypothetical person, a poster, or a public figure.spoiler (click to show/hide)Or a WH40K character, if that universe has a Hungary.[close]
The Vox guys are on strike again today.
I don't know if you're talking about a hypothetical person, a poster, or a public figure.spoiler (click to show/hide)Or a WH40K character, if that universe has a Hungary.[close]
Just a thought experiment about former forums poster Assimilate!
A visit to Wikipedia will tell you that the missionary position is a bad idea for losing your virginity. “You cannot do anything but lay [sic] there and take it.” This echoes Beauvoir herself: “It is he who has the aggressive role and she who submits to his embrace.”
Largely because of the ubiquity of pornography, more and more initial sexual encounters involve things that are commonplace online, but less common for us everyday folks.
I am not against people having casual sex. This isn’t an essay on prudery or on morals. I am against people having bad sex. Perhaps it is more accurate to say I find something immoral in having unhappy, joyless sex.
Our erotic nature is the very foundation of human civilization, which is grounded in the bonds of affection and mutual care that result from the promptings of our sexual instincts combined with deeper emotions of love, self-giving, esteem, and friendship.
For a woman, this means abandoning herself to her desires. This is complex for women because the deepest female desire is for a man to see her as the object of his desire; she desires to be desired.
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Eh, I guess that's technically true but the party's rightward trajectory starts so soon from the end of the revolution that I'm generally of the opinion that the "liberal warrior to autocrat" story is more of a liberal myth than reasonable analysis.
Unlike liberals though I would draw a line from today (albeit not a particularly thick, straight one) to the collaboration of Hungarian liberals with the Habsburg state in the late 19th century.
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"reat"
So the central "argument" of the essay is something to the effect of: humans prefer emotionally fulfilling sex, missionary is emotionally fulfilling because you can make eye contact, therefore missionary is good.only read the bits you quoted above but does the writer not make a connection between putting all this emphasis and importance on (missionary) sex and the "immorality" of joyless sex? or the occurrence of it?
However the author seems to have forgotten this is Quillette so the comments section is rife with people talking about men liking emotionally unfulfilling sex because bio truths.
In conclusion, Libya is a land of contrasts.
She connects the generational decline in sex with people having more unfulfilling sex, an argument that was advanced in another article published by The Atlantic which she linked to in hers. I'm not sure if that's what you meant by "occurrence" though.i have a flu so not thinking clearly but all i could think of was lacan and objet petit a when i read your first post, feel free to ignore my ramblings since at best they're just word associations
As for the connection, I read it as the archetypal conservative "I'm just arguing we should live in accordance with our nature" position instead of a plea to live more moral lives.
is Glenn like a regular host on Tucker now?
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1136810376237146112
:deadhttps://twitter.com/drmistercody/status/1137545813641449475
https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1137545119786254336
i have a flu so not thinking clearly but all i could think of was lacan and objet petit a when i read your first post, feel free to ignore my ramblings since at best they're just word associations
A better case for missionary is that in evolutionary terms it's pretty kinky. Bonobos are the only other mammals to do it that way, which is a pretty strong implicit endorsement.
Plot twist: Brett Weinstein was Etiolate the whole time
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1137376495964434432Some of the anger I saw was that for their print front page collage they just tossed up a whole bunch of YouTubers, some of whom are not alt-right or even reg-right, along with the typical Sargon, Dave Rubin, Molyneux, etc. But who reads print editions?!?
This one seems to have the dank wads mad as hell. I'll read through later.
The only other major rule on comments he mentioned was that they need to be thoughtful. Rather than suggesting that some opinions are “off limits,” Peterson said they will have a minimum required length so one has to put thought into what they write.
https://twitter.com/JackFromAtlanta/status/1138485819637927937
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1138884519669436417
After the shooting, Kashuv met with President Trump and Melania Trump in the White House, and made frequent appearances on Fox News.
Kashuv also took a position as the high school outreach director for young pro-Trump group Turning Point USA, becoming the group’s most famous high school member and a prominent figure at its conferences. Kashuv often appeared with Turning Point founder Charlie Kirk at events, but Kashuv announced last week that he was leaving Turning Point. Kashuv’s announcement came just hours before the racial screenshots became public.
It's one thing to say a bunch of dumb shit when you're 16, but nobodys going to buy your personal growth if what you chose to do since then was become a reactionary grifter.Is that true? I only saw some light praise of Dave Boobin.
It's one thing to say a bunch of dumb shit when you're 16, but nobodys going to buy your personal growth if what you chose to do since then was become a reactionary grifter.Is that true? I only saw some light praise of Dave Boobin.
Anyway, n-word incomingspoiler (click to show/hide)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6uzXdIWsAACxYb?format=jpg&name=large)[close]
I saw worse in highschool :lol
...Apropos of nothing, deleting my cat rape post. And the Srebrenica take. Also the one where I advocated for the wholesale bombing of Damascus. And every Jordan Peterson post. And every instance of the phrase "deng shui". Also, every time I've said "we should kill the president". Threatening to bomb Trent Dole's house. Uhhh... what else...
https://m.ctpost.com/local/ctpost/article/Lawyers-Alex-Jones-sent-child-porn-to-Sandy-Hook-14005437.php
yes free speech warriors, this is a man most deserving a platform..
Jones publicly responded on a broadcast of his show that he is being framed by Chris Mattei, the lawyer for the Sandy Hook families and went on making what Mattei and his law firm, Koskoff, Koskoff and Bieder claim are threats against them.
“You’re trying to set me up with child porn, I’ll get your ass,” Jones states on the broadcast. “One million dollars, you little gang members. One million dollars to put your head on a pike.” Jones then pounds a photograph of Mattei and goes into a rant at one point stating, “I’m gonna kill…”
Jones’ lawyer, Norman Pattis, denied his client was threatening Mattei or the Sandy Hook families and urged people to watch the broadcast for themselves.
https://twitter.com/PrettyBadLefty/status/1140786699942932480
aspiring wank dad but still :dead
https://twitter.com/rooshv/status/1142305758861770753
aspiring wank dad but still :dead
https://twitter.com/rooshv/status/1142305758861770753
Having no clue who any of these people are :aah
I only know about the wankdaddy of them all. Daddy P. :rejoice
IIRC Mill is in the same boat as he spent like half his life as a loyal employee of the east india company and used similar language to justify colonialism. Something along the lines of, "all men are free to govern themselves, except for Savage races who shall be governed untilhttps://www.utilitarian.net/sidgwick/about/200703--.pdfmen like me tell themthey are appropriately raised to a level of civilization". I think that's from On Liberty?
Oh, I thought it was Billy Mitchell for a second.
legendary pro skateboarders :lol
He’s anti-idpol left, so not exactly IDW tier. In league with TERFs; kvetches about everything that isn’t colorlessly class based praxis despite being one of the chief players in perpetuating the practice of treating academic positions and prestige as a system of patronage and fealty; combs the internet for people (like, not faculty, even, students) who’ve been even remotely critical of him or his blog and then goes to Twitter to cry about how much of a victim he is; and (probably) had something to do with literal shit getting mailed to a bunch of academics that all just happened to be people he had an axe to grind with.https://m.imgur.com/Lj3BaiK
Is Brian Leiter wank dad? He seems like a fucking asshole
are we both siding here? :thinking
are we both siding here? :thinking
i don't think that's what esch was getting at. at least, it wasn't my reading.
to answer your previous question, i agree with esch that zizek wouldn't count as wank dad material. i would classify anyone who spends more than 50% of their free time railing against "identity politics". by this metric, everyone in the IDW counts as one. as esch said, zizek flirts with some anti-idpol stuff, but he doesn't focus on it that much, and a lot of the time he does, it feels like he's just trying to be a contrarian.
also, what if I only spend 49.5% of my time railing against identity politics??
:bolo
Isn't contrarianism the anti-idpol secret sauce though? At least initially. Rejecting modern sensibilities and all that.
also, what if I only spend 49.5% of my time railing against identity politics??
:bolo
Has he blamed it on postmodern cultural marxism yet
Crash course of this zizek dude. I participated in this topic despite legitimately not knowing most of what Dirty P ever said outside of what I hear but I see Zizek memed a lot and I'm curious what the dude even believes.
Till I forget later, that is. But indulge me, y'all.
Crash course of this zizek dude. I participated in this topic despite legitimately not knowing most of what Dirty P ever said outside of what I hear but I see Zizek memed a lot and I'm curious what the dude even believes.
Till I forget later, that is. But indulge me, y'all.
Crash course of this zizek dude. I participated in this topic despite legitimately not knowing most of what Dirty P ever said outside of what I hear but I see Zizek memed a lot and I'm curious what the dude even believes.That Jacques Lacan was literally God brought to Earth.
Till I forget later, that is. But indulge me, y'all.
tell me more daddy, was it a swamp witch?
:uguu
i consider idpol whining the key characteristic of wank xaddy life. the anticapitalism of the movement is secondary, cultural before marxism as it were... angela nagle and paglia are def wank dad in my view. zizek flirts with it, but i think he's more of an irreverent shitposter (filler if he really loved lacan, hegel, hotdogs and blow) than someone who genuinely believes it a duty to rail against intersectional social movements and sentiment. i cant think of an example right away, but i swear ive seen a couple wank dads comment on material inequality before.
There is a category of lowly man
Intoxicated by his own brand
Of valiant salvation for
Those lowly outcasts, meek, cash-poor
This worm sees in minorities
A proxy for his purity
The perfect opportunity
To show his deep immunity
To any selfish, racist cause
Like enforcing domestic laws
Those can be altered as niceness dictates
Anything to root out hate!
Root out the immigrant’s opposition!
Commence the liberal inquisition!
Those redneck fools deserve to languish
The worm blames sloth for all their anguish
Heritage nation, consumed by vice!
You just need to be more nice!
The global south deigns to redeem you
Be grateful, for they generate revenue
For the masters you’ve failed to serve
Those men, the worms, who pose to conserve
Those values you have clearly lost
This is the Capitalist Pentecost
Submit to the modernist’s spirit of avarice
Defer now to the mocha-skinned Lazarus
Know this, you are more rich than him
If not in cash, then in your white skin
The worm is possessed by cool-kid perception
Considers himself a great exception
To all those evil, racist whites
Whose recalcitrance impedes his rights
To trample on their spirit more
To profit from the endless wars
And from the labor multiplied
And from the masses demoralized
Who still turn to the worm for guidance because
For America, he professes love
Not for her people (those, he hates)
They are but low-life reprobates
But for what nation she could be
If she increased her liberty
And turned her unscathed, generous face
Toward parasites that “earn their place”
And spread her ample, gentle thighs
For those who come and tribalize
And offered her abundant breast
To those who maybe pass a test
And even those who don’t, you see
Deserve a similar amnesty
For their natural state is to conserve
Just like the posture of the worm
Unscrupulous venality
A winning slave morality
I didn’t realize that American Greatness publishes poetry until Tuesday, when they published an anti-cuck poem that, like anti-cuck prose, speaks of bizarre racial fears and fantasies best worked out with a therapist (“And spread her ample, gentle thighs / For those who come and tribalize”). The best thing that can be said for it is that the author had the sense to publish it pseudonymously. The verse is clearly aimed at David French, who is the target of racialist attacks, it’s worth remembering, because he committed the unpardonable sin of adopting a black child from Africa. For whatever reason, though, he’s not mentioned by name. Instead, in what I suppose passes for cleverness among people who publish anti-cuck poetry, David’s photo was initially the shared image for the piece on social media. And this from the publication that imagines itself an intellectually serious tribune of Trumpism.
pretty much; he like marx but likes french psychoanalysis and german idealism even more and knows what to say to keep in vogueCrash course of this zizek dude. I participated in this topic despite legitimately not knowing most of what Dirty P ever said outside of what I hear but I see Zizek memed a lot and I'm curious what the dude even believes.That Jacques Lacan was literally God brought to Earth.
Till I forget later, that is. But indulge me, y'all.
the comments are absolutely shredding rubin :rofl
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To be fair, even a person who needs a drool bucket could probably point out how much of a dimwit dave rubin is
Marianne is totally taking over the troll vote from that hack Andrew Yang. :lol
Oh yeah, the unintentionally :doge part of the Yang interview was when Virgil called the looming automation revolution "the Great Replacement" (a white genocide thing) when Yang calls it "the Great Displacement" in his book.Automation could make the Luddites look like a kindergartener outing
Virgil just brings a lot of wonk energy and points to the table, but his analysis ends in "....and that's why you need to vote for Bernie Sanders!" every fucking time. Matt's the only one worth saving. would listen to a Mike Duncan style solo podcast with him just ranting.I love Matt. I mean, I love them all, it's a fun podcast and I enjoy listening. But I would never recommend The Inebriated Past to anyone who wanted to learn anything about any subject. :doge
Virgil just brings a lot of wonk energy and points to the table, but his analysis ends in "....and that's why you need to vote for Bernie Sanders!" every fucking time. Matt's the only one worth saving. would listen to a Mike Duncan style solo podcast with him just ranting.
BTW, idk if Virgil has heard the whispers about him, but I'm not sure he should be calling himself a piece of shit when he was in his early 20s so flippantly on air like he did in that interview.
:hitler
I saw turing police say something about that and I don't know if he's really a credible source but when you consider the history of DSA-adjacent people...
https://twitter.com/AbigayleDavis7/status/1153065441763500032this is not strictly a denial :doge
https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1152166952682577921
https://twitter.com/adrianmp1/status/1152956855611809793
Benji's real Twitter is just a bunch of lame jokes he wrote between 2014 and 2017 that got no likes :heh
wait, are you that tax man guy or whatever? I was trying to figure out which bore member it was. I thought the content was pretty smart, like recursivelyenumerable tier. :heartbeatBenji's real Twitter is just a bunch of lame jokes he wrote between 2014 and 2017 that got no likes :heh
That's my Twitter. :fbmspoiler (click to show/hide)Except 2009 to 2017. :donot[close]
I used the benjipwnsian method of just looking up the handle he uses everywhere (https://mobile.twitter.com/benjipwns?lang=en)https://twitter.com/benjipwns/status/318552795873701888
wait, are you that tax man guy or whatever? I was trying to figure out which bore member it was. I thought the content was pretty smart, like recursivelyenumerable tier. :heartbeat
Benji's real Twitter is just a bunch of lame jokes he wrote between 2014 and 2017 that got no likes :hehNobody else will realize you specifically used the time period in which I had no tweets except the one to messofanego but I did.
Nobody else will realize you specifically used the time period in which I had no tweets except the one to messofanego but I did.I love that I've succeeded in driving you into such a rabid paranoia over any of my actions that even when I do things by accident you find a hidden meaning. :hans1
Yeah, he seems like a blocker.
Even I delete YouTube comments and the only person I muted on Twitter was an old friend who turned into a white nationalist and can probably dox me so I can't unfollow or block.I reply to people who ask questions on my stupid YouTube videos :doge
Yeah, he seems like a blocker.
I'm a serial muter 8)
You work on that string of YouTube comments, I'm going to see if we can get your post in the politics thread submitted to Quillette .you can let them know I've been published on multiple popular websites by being the first and only person to upload a clip from Parks and Rec for a long time that's never been copyright struck
telling some dope that my Parks and Rec clip that has a million views is from Parks and Rec makes me feel like anadultboomer using the internet :doge
spoiler (click to show/hide)also a long long long time ago i had an obscure rarely updated personal blog more about tinkering with the software on a subdomain of a subdomain of a video game related website and did the same exact thing with some other stupid column that made no sense and the writer posted like ten comments angry at me after he posted a big long reply and i said essentially whatever the 2001 version of "lol calm down" was :doge[close]
i basically just dunked on his extreme Whig view of history
I always read these stories as you being an unreliable narrator.
mandark, how do you remember all of the things you've ever said to benjamin pwns
How do you remember all of your greatest hits like that without writing them down somewhere
You really don't need to worry about this sort of stuff until you have some good posts.
I made a lot of bad mistakes on the internet in the early part of the 21st century, once I posted a comment on a student newspaper opinion column about how W. Bush was protecting us and the editor asked me to write an expanded column on the point and I stupidly did using the phrase "security theater" and it's forever attached to my real name except for the fact that they've changed the website five hundred times so it's gone and you'd have to look into the print archives to find it
You work on that string of YouTube comments, I'm going to see if we can get your post in the politics thread submitted to Quillette .
It's a good Mayakovsky poem. :Dayy he's the only russian poet i've ever read iirc
You work on that string of YouTube comments, I'm going to see if we can get your post in the politics thread submitted to Quillette .
https://twitter.com/ma_vollmer/status/1153895918309183489
Do Germans even have noticeably broad foreheads? Can any Germans here confirm/deny?
more like Bozos rite
:rodney
https://twitter.com/TheNormalestOne/status/1154159731164033025
Do Germans even have noticeably broad foreheads? Can any Germans here confirm/deny?
I always thought that was a stereotype of slavic people. :trumps
the meme is kinda shitty, but the "bottom text" is on purpose in an ironic way
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/bottom-text?full=1
he was too lazy to look it up and made a YouTube video about it..
the meme is kinda shitty, but the "bottom text" is on purpose in an ironic way
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/bottom-text?full=1
he was too lazy to look it up and made a YouTube video about it..
no, i'm aware what bottom text means. i'm confused on the meme as a whole cause it seems like it's making fun of leftists, so i don't think it's created by one?
Do Germans even have noticeably broad foreheads? Can any Germans here confirm/deny?
I always thought that was a stereotype of slavic people. :trumps
Broad foreheads appear in my family as well as in the appropriate ethnoreligious/ethnic grouping, as well as narrow foreheads.
And we're not Germanic/Slavic/Euros, far from it, so I wouldn't put stock in it.
“I am open to using any platform that is brave enough to allow me to share my journalism and true facts with the public,” said Laura Loomer, the right-wing provocateur who describes herself as an “anti-Islam journalist.” “I do not currently have an account with Thinkspot,” added Loomer, who was permanently banned from Twitter last year, “but that does not mean I will not consider it in the future.”
Still, some were skeptical that Peterson would stay true to his promise not to ban users.
The neo-Nazi blogger Andrew Anglin, who is currently in hiding as he evades a series of lawsuits, two of which have already put him $18 million in the red, told The Forward in an email that he would join Thinkspot.
“I will sign up for Jordan Peterson’s thing of course, and will be banned for some inane reason,” said Anglin, who was banned from Twitter in 2015 but is currently operating at least one anonymous account on the platform, according to a source. “But it will be necessary to sign up and be banned to prove the point.”
https://twitter.com/Hbomberguy/status/1154981549902835712(https://i.imgur.com/L1lKn6X.jpg)
https://twitter.com/LivvyFanon/status/1151947372160671744
Discourse Lover :lawd
You should listen to Age of Napoleon :ufup
You should listen to Age of Napoleon
https://twitter.com/mikeduncan/status/1155242008694407168When you ignore someone, you're basically murdering that person in the digital realm. Add them to your Ignore List today!
https://twitter.com/curaffairs/status/1155136072508170240
https://twitter.com/dont_panic/status/1155255157807935488
People in the UK will know who Katie Hopkins is, and may not like her. I think some people in the US might know her. However, like her or loathe her, I was genuinely surprised at how good a speaker she is. I think most people in the room were.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkSBfdXNWWk
People in the UK will know who Katie Hopkins is, and may not like her. I think some people in the US might know her. However, like her or loathe her, I was genuinely surprised at how good a speaker she is. I think most people in the room were.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkSBfdXNWWk
https://twitter.com/dril/status/831805955402776576?lang=en
https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1155879566860279808
People in the UK will know who Katie Hopkins is, and may not like her. I think some people in the US might know her. However, like her or loathe her, I was genuinely surprised at how good a speaker she is. I think most people in the room were.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkSBfdXNWWk
https://twitter.com/dril/status/831805955402776576?lang=en
So I am not misunderstanding... The point your making is, because of Katie Hopkins views, you should not in any circumstance say anything potentially positive about that person even if it is true? Just basically say she's shit at everything I guess?
Here's the thing: If a member of ISIL specifically debated against no platforming and they just happened to be a good orator and made a decent argument, against no-platforming[/u][/i], why would I not acknowledge that? You can separate the two things and be perfectly consistent.
A stopped clock is right once or twice a day depending on whether or not it's 12 or 24 hour but people don't actively seek out stopped clocks to tell the time and it's not worth mentioning when they are telling the right time (tedious metaphors excluded).
Because even for a rightwinger, Katie Hopkins is a special kind of horrible. And as Kara said, even if she may be right on this one issue, why are you actively seeking out broken clocks to form your political opinions?
https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1155879566860279808(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2b/DilBeriTO.jpg)
Here's the thing: If a member of ISIL specifically debated against no platforming and they just happened to be a good orator and made a decent argument, against no-platforming[/u][/i], why would I not acknowledge that? You can separate the two things and be perfectly consistent.
https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/1155944224795140096
dracarys!
A stopped clock is right once or twice a day depending on whether or not it's 12 or 24 hour but people don't actively seek out stopped clocks to tell the time and it's not worth mentioning when they are telling the right time (tedious metaphors excluded).
Here's the thing: If a member of ISIL specifically debated against no platforming and they just happened to be a good orator and made a decent argument, against no-platforming[/u][/i], why would I not acknowledge that? You can separate the two things and be perfectly consistent.
First, I'd note that ISIL has a very real material interest in opposing no-platforming (they want it to be easier to recruit young men to be mass murderers), which has implications both for the credibility of his arguments, and for no-platforming generally.
Second, if I found myself being swayed by a moral argument coming from a member of ISIL, I hope that I would have enough self-awareness to question whether I was becoming either reactionary or a gullible dumbfuck.
PS "wow this professional media figure is pretty good at talking" is less meaningful than you seem to think it is.
I never understand the point of your posts.
boy that leni riefenstal could sure frame a scene
riefenstahl was hitler??? QANON IS REAL
boy that leni riefenstal could sure frame a scene
Yeah. I notice you have to exaggerate just how bad Katie Hopkins is for that to make sense. Katie Hopkins is not Hitler. I would argue that a better comparison would be Ann Coulter. She is the British Ann Coulter. And Ann Coulter is not Hitler.
Although... Many people do comment on Hitler's ability as an orator, don't they? Funny enough.
boy that leni riefenstal could sure frame a scene
Yeah. I notice you have to exaggerate just how bad Katie Hopkins is for that to make sense. Katie Hopkins is not Hitler. I would argue that a better comparison would be Ann Coulter. She is the British Ann Coulter. And Ann Coulter is not Hitler.
Although... Many people do comment on Hitler's ability as an orator, don't they? Funny enough.
what exactly do you think you're arguing here, pal? :thinking
like, i get that 'well at least he/she is not LITERALLY hitler' is an applause line at trump rallies and the editorial pages of the federalist, but i would think conservatives on the bore would have a bit more sense than to use such lines here
Ann Coulter is a massive troll, though?
The Nazi's had their own Marvel Cinematic Universe with super heroes before Disney had even thought about such a thing.riefenstahl was hitler??? QANON IS REAL
No, but you are intentionally invoking the Nazi regime and the horrors that subsequently followed, aren't you? As if that is actually comparable.
And in any case, if I said I am genuinely surprised at how well made the Nazi propaganda movies were, I fail to see how that would necessarily be in bad taste. I think many people can separate the horrors of WWII with simply objectively viewing the technical ability of nazi film making.
I agree the way comments are phrased can be in bad taste though.
inb4 leadbelly tells you he's not a conservative, he's a classical liberal
inb4 leadbelly tells you he's not a conservative, he's a classical liberal
I will mention actually... It gets kind of murky when you mention classical liberal values, or lets say, Enlightenment values. Classical liberalism these days I hear described as being on the right. The Liberal Party in Australia is actually a right wing party, for instance. However, historically those values could be seen as on the Left.
What side would you say Noam Chomsky is on for instance? Yet he holds values I would consider classical liberal, libertarian, and of the Enlightenment.
What side is Glenn Greenwald on?
Edit: Incidentally, as this subject has been brought up. I remember watching this interview with someone who considers themself a classical liberal and right wing. Also Australian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=867d4Jdi3wQ
Good channel btw... Although I know instantly this will not pass your 'left-wing' purity test. Even though they describe themselves as left-wing.
Konstantin Kisin, who also describes himself as left-wing, I feel will make you suspicious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgC17lb1tN0
What side would you say Noam Chomsky is on for instance? Yet he holds values I would consider classical liberal, libertarian, and of the Enlightenment.(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/PleasantLinedAfricanparadiseflycatcher-max-1mb.gif)
like, i get that 'well at least he/she is not LITERALLY hitler' is an applause line at trump rallies and the editorial pages of the federalist, but i would think conservatives on the bore would have a bit more sense than to use such lines here
I like how you and Mandark always make arguments that never really address the point. I am not the one bringing up Nazism. It is quite simple. Let me explain it in very simple language and clearly: A person compares me saying Katie Hopkins is a good orator to someone praising film work of a nazi propaganda movie. They are not comparable. Do you understand? Cheapening Nazism by literally throwing it at every right-winger it is not something I generally go along with.
And I am not conservative. I am a Left winger. I would see myself as an old school left winger who is actually for working class interests. I love how people assume just because I don't go along with your RElite bullshit I am automatically conservative. lol
I mean, I remember previously in this thread someone posting Steven Pinker tweets, as if mockingly, because lets face it you only post tweets in he mockingly for some reason, even when it is hard to actually understand what you are mocking. Yet, Steven Pinker is also on the left. He is one of the most rational and reasoned people around. Get a fucking grip.
inb4 leadbelly tells you he's not a conservative, he's a classical liberal
I will mention actually... It gets kind of murky when you mention classical liberal values, or lets say, Enlightenment values. Classical liberalism these days I hear described as being on the right. The Liberal Party in Australia is actually a right wing party, for instance. However, historically those values could be seen as on the Left.
What side would you say Noam Chomsky is on for instance? Yet he holds values I would consider classical liberal, libertarian, and of the Enlightenment.
What side is Glenn Greenwald on?
this is an astronomically naive and/or bad faith comparison.QuoteEdit: Incidentally, as this subject has been brought up. I remember watching this interview with someone who considers themself a classical liberal and right wing. Also Australian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=867d4Jdi3wQ
Good channel btw... Although I know instantly this will not pass your 'left-wing' purity test. Even though they describe themselves as left-wing.
Konstantin Kisin, who also describes himself as left-wing, I feel will make you suspicious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgC17lb1tN0
ah yes, a channel called 'triggernometry', whose founder is a contributor for the outlet of afficionados of skull measuring, Quillete, very known for being 'on the left'.
inb4 leadbelly tells you he's not a conservative, he's a classical liberal
I will mention actually... It gets kind of murky when you mention classical liberal values, or lets say, Enlightenment values. Classical liberalism these days I hear described as being on the right. The Liberal Party in Australia is actually a right wing party, for instance. However, historically those values could be seen as on the Left.
What side would you say Noam Chomsky is on for instance? Yet he holds values I would consider classical liberal, libertarian, and of the Enlightenment.
What side is Glenn Greenwald on?
this is an astronomically naive and/or bad faith comparison.QuoteEdit: Incidentally, as this subject has been brought up. I remember watching this interview with someone who considers themself a classical liberal and right wing. Also Australian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=867d4Jdi3wQ
Good channel btw... Although I know instantly this will not pass your 'left-wing' purity test. Even though they describe themselves as left-wing.
Konstantin Kisin, who also describes himself as left-wing, I feel will make you suspicious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgC17lb1tN0
ah yes, a channel called 'triggernometry', whose founder is a contributor for the outlet of afficionados of skull measuring, Quillete, very known for being 'on the left'.
Could you just be clear about what you are saying? Who?
Also, as you might guess, I would have no issue with them, whom ever you mean, writing a piece on Quillette. If that is how you define 'left-wing' then I guess you have also found Steven Pinker out, because he has also been a contributor on Quillette. Maybe that is why his tweets deserve being mocked?
Edit: Also the 'DESTROYS' thing I am pretty sure is being ironic. They are comedians and have actually joked about Youtube videos like that before.
inb4 leadbelly tells you he's not a conservative, he's a classical liberal
I will mention actually... It gets kind of murky when you mention classical liberal values, or lets say, Enlightenment values. Classical liberalism these days I hear described as being on the right. The Liberal Party in Australia is actually a right wing party, for instance. However, historically those values could be seen as on the Left.
What side would you say Noam Chomsky is on for instance? Yet he holds values I would consider classical liberal, libertarian, and of the Enlightenment.
What side is Glenn Greenwald on?
this is an astronomically naive and/or bad faith comparison.QuoteEdit: Incidentally, as this subject has been brought up. I remember watching this interview with someone who considers themself a classical liberal and right wing. Also Australian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=867d4Jdi3wQ
Good channel btw... Although I know instantly this will not pass your 'left-wing' purity test. Even though they describe themselves as left-wing.
Konstantin Kisin, who also describes himself as left-wing, I feel will make you suspicious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgC17lb1tN0
ah yes, a channel called 'triggernometry', whose founder is a contributor for the outlet of afficionados of skull measuring, Quillete, very known for being 'on the left'.
Could you just be clear about what you are saying? Who?
Also, as you might guess, I would have no issue with them, whom ever you mean, writing a piece on Quillette. If that is how you define 'left-wing' then I guess you have also found Steven Pinker out, because he has also been a contributor on Quillette. Maybe that is why his tweets deserve being mocked?
i was talking about the 'comedian' in the video you referenced. thought that was clear, but it could also apply to the entire channel. and yes, virtually anyone, with the tiniest of exceptions, who writes for quillete is in any way leftist.QuoteEdit: Also the 'DESTROYS' thing I am pretty sure is being ironic. They are comedians and have actually joked about Youtube videos like that before.
nobody on the planet who uses the word 'trigger' unironically would be using the word 'DESTROYS' unironically either.
leadbelly strikes me as a more polite version of assimiliate/optimus. someone who theoretically is okay with raising the minimum wage, but really, REALLY thinks we should bring back the n-word in public discourse
I will mention actually... It gets kind of murky when you mention classical liberal values, or lets say, Enlightenment values. Classical liberalism these days I hear described as being on the right. The Liberal Party in Australia is actually a right wing party, for instance. However, historically those values could be seen as on the Left.Look, there's no such thing as classical liberalism as a modern ideology. This is an artificial anachronism people have made up. Liberalism in the late 18th and 19th centuries was a social and economic movement that stood in opposition to monarchism and mercantilism. These are your voltaires, your adam smiths. Then you have progressives in the late 19th century who advocated social change. The word liberal, in many places, describes the progressives, who are technically descended from the liberals of yore but that liberalism won in every "western" country on Earth once WWII was over (excluding some fascist holdovers like Falangist Spain and Estado Novo in Portugal) so this describes EVERYONE you would ever bother to talk about.
What side would you say Noam Chomsky is on for instance? Yet he holds values I would consider classical liberal, libertarian, and of the Enlightenment.Noam Chomsky is an anti-capitalist, communitarian, etc. etc. He thinks free market capitalism has pathologized human behavior. He wants complete public ownership of capital. FaSinPat, syndicalist, pro-union... Comparing him to the aforementioned philosophical tradition is completely inaccurate, even if he is "pro free speech" or "anti authoritarianism". GOOGLE MURRAY BOOKCHIN (this is a meme, don't google murray bookchin).
What side is Glenn Greenwald on?Does he call himself a classical liberal? Besides, The Intercept is like one of the (best, and) wokest news organizations around. They have been hammering hard against ICE for years. They have covered corrupt and racist police practices. Glenn is GAY!
I am not conservative. I am a Left winger. I would see myself as an old school left winger who is actually for working class interests.If this is true, and I suspect it is, I think it would be better if we could get you to start participating in constructive socialist discussion instead of the onanistic circle jerk and intellectual dead end that is wank-dadaism. You are caught in a trap defending people that don't need defending (your last few posts are just you getting triggered over and over again). Let me explain it to you as simply as possible: Mandark, and probably to an extent Oblivion, never said you are conservative, and don't think you are. They just think you're dumb. And they will dunk on you for as long as you give them ammunition. Just give up now.
nobody on the planet who uses the word 'trigger' unironically would be using the word 'DESTROYS' unironically either.
I will mention actually... It gets kind of murky when you mention classical liberal values, or lets say, Enlightenment values. Classical liberalism these days I hear described as being on the right. The Liberal Party in Australia is actually a right wing party, for instance. However, historically those values could be seen as on the Left.Look, there's no such thing as classical liberalism as a modern ideology. This is an artificial anachronism people have made up. Liberalism in the late 18th and 19th centuries was a social and economic movement that stood in opposition to monarchism and mercantilism. These are your voltaires, your adam smiths. Then you have progressives in the late 19th century who advocated social change. The word liberal, in many places, describes the progressives, who are technically descended from the liberals of yore but that liberalism won in every "western" country on Earth once WWII was over (excluding some fascist holdovers like Falangist Spain and Estado Novo in Portugal) so this describes EVERYONE you would ever bother to talk about.QuoteWhat side would you say Noam Chomsky is on for instance? Yet he holds values I would consider classical liberal, libertarian, and of the Enlightenment.Noam Chomsky is an anti-capitalist, communitarian, etc. etc. He thinks free market capitalism has pathologized human behavior. He wants complete public ownership of capital. FaSinPat, syndicalist, pro-union... Comparing him to the aforementioned philosophical tradition is completely inaccurate, even if he is "pro free speech" or "anti authoritarianism". GOOGLE MURRAY BOOKCHIN (this is a meme, don't google murray bookchin).QuoteWhat side is Glenn Greenwald on?Does he call himself a classical liberal? Besides, The Intercept is like one of the (best, and) wokest news organizations around. They have been hammering hard against ICE for years. They have covered corrupt and racist police practices. Glenn is GAY!
Since it is not clear to you yet... classical liberalism is a shibboleth for people who just want to participate in the anti-woke debate. That's it. Steve Pinker's only two contributions to the public forum are a defense of global capitalism (he is what is known as a DWEIB (http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45863.msg2672143#msg2672143)) and several groans toward college campus liberalism. "Classical liberalism" as a phrase is a thing Jordan Peterson made up in an angry email because he got mad that people kept pegging him as conservative or right wing. Somehow it caught on among other people who, like Peterson, don't know really know much about history. To date, the vast majority of Jordan Peterson's fame has come from trying to organize a counter cultural movement against the SJWs who will literally destroy society by turning into Nazis or Communists. Dave Rubin started using the phrase because he can only use words that other people string together for him (because he is an idiot). Are you seeing a pattern?
You can get by like the rest of us and just say that you're not really into woke culture. I am not into woke culture. I know agrafrag is also not into woke culture. However, if I said I was really anti-woke-culture, and I made this part of my identity, and I went to meetup.com and looked for anti-woke meetups, and I found one at the local bar, and went to their next meetup, there is a good chance I will be hanging out with Proudboys and College Republicans. As someone whose roommate used to host the Sac State Young Republican club meetings, I never want to do that ever again.I am not conservative. I am a Left winger. I would see myself as an old school left winger who is actually for working class interests.If this is true, and I suspect it is, I think it would be better if we could get you to start participating in constructive socialist discussion instead of the onanistic circle jerk and intellectual dead end that is wank-dadaism. You are caught in a trap defending people that don't need defending (your last few posts are just you getting triggered over and over again). Let me explain it to you as simply as possible: Mandark, and probably to an extent Oblivion, never said you are conservative, and don't think you are. They just think you're dumb. And they will dunk on you for as long as you give them ammunition. Just give up now.
Quilette :nope
Gillette :ohyeah
nobody on the planet who uses the word 'trigger' unironically would be using the word 'DESTROYS' unironically either.
-Trigger
-DESTROYS
-SJWs
Leadbelly: But they're totally left-wing, guys!
there is a devastating burn that I have refrained from using because it would hurt leadbelly too much
Do it.
there is a devastating burn that I have refrained from using because it would hurt leadbelly too much
there is a devastating burn that I have refrained from using because it would hurt leadbelly too much
If it's about Patek Philippe references being horribly dated haute horlogerie then I feel you.
Actually, I should point out because I never did in my other post: Classical liberalism is referring mainly to the brand of liberalism in the UK. The sort of John Stuart Mill liberalism.
Actually, I should point out because I never did in my other post: Classical liberalism is referring mainly to the brand of liberalism in the UK. The sort of John Stuart Mill liberalism.
so like colonizing india and whatnot
That said, ultimately it just stems from a basic idea: the freedom of the individual.
That said, ultimately it just stems from a basic idea: the freedom of the individual.
but not so much for the indian individual
there is a devastating burn that I have refrained from using because it would hurt leadbelly too much
If it's about Patek Philippe references being horribly dated haute horlogerie then I feel you.
I think there is a 't' on the end of that word, not an 'n'.
noun
1.
a member of the proletariat.
synonyms: working-class person, worker, working person, plebeian, commoner, ordinary person, man/woman/person in the street; More
I think there is a 't' on the end of that word, not an 'n'.Quotenoun
1.
a member of the proletariat.
synonyms: working-class person, worker, working person, plebeian, commoner, ordinary person, man/woman/person in the street; More
any further questions?
I think there is a 't' on the end of that word, not an 'n'.Quotenoun
1.
a member of the proletariat.
synonyms: working-class person, worker, working person, plebeian, commoner, ordinary person, man/woman/person in the street; More
any further questions?
Edited before you posted.
"current so-called liberalism is anti-freedom, we use the term classical liberalism to refer to the real stuff"
"then we should talk about how those classic liberals actually operated during their lifetimes"
"no that would be trolling"
I think there is a 't' on the end of that word, not an 'n'.Quotenoun
1.
a member of the proletariat.
synonyms: working-class person, worker, working person, plebeian, commoner, ordinary person, man/woman/person in the street; More
any further questions?
Edited before you posted.
That doesn't absolve you, it just shows your cowardice in trying to cover your tracks, bud. :brain
Oh you were being serious?
It's sort of pointless... It's kind of like talking about the founding principles of the United States and saying we must talk about slavery.
I think there is a 't' on the end of that word, not an 'n'.Quotenoun
1.
a member of the proletariat.
synonyms: working-class person, worker, working person, plebeian, commoner, ordinary person, man/woman/person in the street; More
any further questions?
Edited before you posted.
That doesn't absolve you, it just shows your cowardice in trying to cover your tracks, bud. :brain
No. I have admitted a number of times on these forums when I get things wrong.
Edit: Also what would be the point of needlessly carrying on a disagreement about a word? It's not like I presented a whole argument that is fundementally flawed and tried to cover my tracks.
I think there is a 't' on the end of that word, not an 'n'.Quotenoun
1.
a member of the proletariat.
synonyms: working-class person, worker, working person, plebeian, commoner, ordinary person, man/woman/person in the street; More
any further questions?
Edited before you posted.
That doesn't absolve you, it just shows your cowardice in trying to cover your tracks, bud. :brain
No. I have admitted a number of times on these forums when I get things wrong.
Edit: Also what would be the point of needlessly carrying on a disagreement about a word? It's not like I presented a whole argument that is fundementally flawed and tried to cover my tracks.
If it's fair game for you to try to point out my incorrect usage of word, it's fair game for me to DESTROY you with facts and logic. ;)
It's sort of pointless... It's kind of like talking about the founding principles of the United States and saying we must talk about slavery.
It's sort of pointless... It's kind of like talking about the founding principles of the United States and saying we must talk about slavery.
I mean, yes?
Isn't discussing the contradictions in the liberal intellectual tradition (from the left and right) pretty much the point of this entire thread? :doge
Do you believe in the principle that humans should be endowed with certain unalienable rights?
Right so, you have to dodge the question instead. There you go. You know the answer. :p
there is a devastating burn that I have refrained from using because it would hurt leadbelly too much
If it's about Patek Philippe references being horribly dated haute horlogerie then I feel you.
how is a proletarian so well versed in luxury wristwear?
I would be more impressed if it wasn't copy pasta.it's not copypasta, it's Lenin :ussrcry
I would be more impressed if it wasn't copy pasta.it's not copypasta, it's Lenin :ussrcry
browning points
Filler gives me likes when I am feeling lonely.
Filler gives me likes when I am feeling lonely.
filler is basically the social safety net in the Bire's like economy
Filler gives me likes when I am feeling lonely.
filler is basically the social safety net in the Bire's like economy
He's like Tom from MySpace.spoiler (click to show/hide)I wonder how many people will get that reference[close]
I don't like identity politics. I don't subscribe to it.
And so in threads like this it is more likely to be videos like that. Which is what the thread was intended for, no? The continuation of wank dad?
And lack of respect for whom?
Filler gives me likes when I am feeling lonely.
filler is basically the social safety net in the Bire's like economy
He's like Tom from MySpace.spoiler (click to show/hide)I wonder how many people will get that reference[close]
I was very active in the Myspace forums circa 2002ish
Filler gives me likes when I am feeling lonely.
filler is basically the social safety net in the Bire's like economy
He's like Tom from MySpace.spoiler (click to show/hide)I wonder how many people will get that reference[close]
I was very active in the Myspace forums circa 2002ish
Oh. I wasn't, but I remember making a Myspace account and automatically get a friend and wondering who the fuck it was. lol
I don't like identity politics. I don't subscribe to it.
Yes..we know this. The issue is that you're obsessed with that shit.QuoteAnd so in threads like this it is more likely to be videos like that. Which is what the thread was intended for, no? The continuation of wank dad?
Except that when we post articles/tweets from/about them, we do so in order to mock them, whereas you post to praise them.QuoteAnd lack of respect for whom?
For pretty much everyone in this thread. You come struttin' in here all like 'how do you do, fellow leftists?" and proceed to post shit like a video of stefan molyneux talking about how black people have low IQs and going 'now, i don't agree with everything said here, but he's so eloquent and you gotta admit, it's a pretty interesting discussion!".
and when you're called out on this bullshit, you insist you're not that different from anyone here. sure, you would LIKE to have the workers seize the means of production some day, but not before people like linda sarsour and anita sarkeesian are imprisoned first.
I guess...
However, it appeared to be a continuation of the previous thread, which was kind of about those types of videos. So in my mind I am on topic.
I guess...
However, it appeared to be a continuation of the previous thread, which was kind of about those types of videos. So in my mind I am on topic.
I think that it's quite clear that the thread has long moved on from its original dynamic, which was basically Etiolate stanning for Daddy P vs. everyone else. The shift has started around the time he was permanently banned from the forum. His disciple Assimilate tried to half-heartedly carry on his legacy, until his own demise. But hey, it seems you are ready and willing to take up Etiolate's mantle.
Oh and to be clear, Leadbelly, I'm not saying that you shouldn't post that stuff in here, or that you're not allowed to dissent.
Go ahead, do all that. It's actually more fun when people argue. I'm just saying stop trying to pretend that you're somebody you're not. You wanna post a contrarian take or defend one of the wank dads/moms, go for it. but don't try to distract by going 'hey hold on guys, you might think i have shitty opinions, but i have GOOD ones (that i'll almost never post) that you might agree with as well!"
I think that it's quite clear that the thread has long moved on from its original dynamic, which was basically Etiolate stanning for Daddy P vs. everyone else. The shift has started around the time he was permanently banned from the forum. His disciple Assimilate tried to half-heartedly carry on his legacy, until his own demise. But hey, it seems you are ready and willing to take up Etiolate's mantle.rewriting history in my favor :bow
gotta say, bristling at people labelling ben shapiro as far right and calling sam harris left-wing makes for some pretty interesting political cartography
I think the term 'spectrum' is a good word for this. I mentioned Glenn Greenwald in a previous post. Go on RE and you will find to some on there Greenwald doesn't pass the purity test. People will play the same game of suspicion. I think the problem is people want to own these terms and make them fit solidly with their own worldviews. This person can't be left because he doesn't agree with x,y,z.
To be honest, I'm not really sure I care. As I said before, the terms have become meaningless to me, and this example kind of proves why.
I think the term 'spectrum' is a good word for this. I mentioned Glenn Greenwald in a previous post. Go on RE and you will find to some on there Greenwald doesn't pass the purity test. People will play the same game of suspicion. I think the problem is people want to own these terms and make them fit solidly with their own worldviews. This person can't be left because he doesn't agree with x,y,z.
To be honest, I'm not really sure I care. As I said before, the terms have become meaningless to me, and this example kind of proves why.
I'm not so sure he even considers himsef a man of the left, considering he's used "leftist" to describe nambla and islamist organizations
it wasn't said to distinguish left from liberal, but left from right
When people hold opinions that are against a particular orthodoxy, they automatically get labelled right-wing. It is just a psychological trick some people play with themselves that allows them to dismiss people.
If I were to describe mister greenwald's ideology it would be "shosta's dad as a libertarian"Speaking of him, when the nuclear first use thing came up tonight at the debate, he said aloud "that's dumb, why would they ask this question, who would defend first use", and I tried explaining that Reagan's Star Wars was actually to defend against the RETALIATORY strike after a US first strike and that we never reciprocated Brezhnev's no-first-use pledge... but we are talking about a Navy man here whose youth was spent bracing for impact playing games of chicken with Soviet ships. The USSR was evil, you could not trust them, etc.
However, possibly he is distinguishing 'leftists' from 'liberals' which is a semantic trick some people do I notice.It is not a semantic trick :doge
When people hold opinions that are against a particular orthodoxy, they automatically get labelled right-wing. It is just a psychological trick some people play with themselves that allows them to dismiss people.
idk sounds like you're the one using a trick to let yourself dismiss people rather than engage with their arguments
Forget what my intentions are. What you should be concerned with is, is there merit to my argument.
he has values consistent with classical liberalismthis statement is next to meaningless
or the Enlightenmentthis statement is for sure meaningless. At any rate, you need to substantiate/unpack what you mean by these loaded terms. Who, specifically, and if possible, which texts, do you have in mind here by “classical liberal” or “enlightenment”? Both terms are post hoc (for the most part) classifications for a range of thinkers/writers that were anything but univocal in what they were committed to. Further, they’ve shifted meaning and extension throughout their histories. Mandarks point about Mill having no compunctions about participating in the Raj despite being considered the paradigmatic ‘classical liberal’ is a judicious one, and shows up a complicated dialogue within the liberal tradition about empire and subaltern peoples, among other things.
That said, ultimately it just stems from a basic idea: the freedom of the individual. As obviously 'liber' simply mean 'free'. Free man. That's all it is.this obscures two points about the development of liberalism:
Forget what my intentions are. What you should be concerned with is, is there merit to my argument.
you reiterate this belief a lot but it's wrong and you probably don't even believe it
If a serial killer said the sky is blue, it doesn't mean he must be wrong because he is a serial killer.
he has values consistent with classical liberalismthis statement is next to meaninglessQuoteor the Enlightenmentthis statement is for sure meaningless. At any rate, you need to substantiate/unpack what you mean by these loaded terms. Who, specifically, and if possible, which texts, do you have in mind here by “classical liberal” or “enlightenment”? Both terms are post hoc (for the most part) classifications for a range of thinkers/writers that were anything but univocal in what they were committed to. Further, they’ve shifted meaning and extension throughout their histories. Mandarks point about Mill having no compunctions about participating in the Raj despite being considered the paradigmatic ‘classical liberal’ is a judicious one, and shows up a complicated dialogue within the liberal tradition about empire and subaltern peoples, among other things.That said, ultimately it just stems from a basic idea: the freedom of the individual. As obviously 'liber' simply mean 'free'. Free man. That's all it is.this obscures two points about the development of liberalism:
i) the meaning of ‘freedom’ and ‘liberty’ are exactly what get contested when people try to push their particular liberalisms. What you probably have in mind is negative liberty but it’s not obvious that this is the only tenable view and the history of liberalism is littered with people with a different conception of ‘liberty’. This sep article (https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/liberalism/) is helpful.
ii) The liberal tradition, through to the start of the First World War, isn’t particularly interested in emphasizing the ‘individual’ as the locus of ‘rights’, at least not over against a larger body of people like ‘society’, or whatever. The distinction between ‘individualism’ and ‘collectivism’ is largely a vestige of 20th century liberals rewriting the historiography of ‘liberalism’ to combat not just fascism and soviet communism but also the laissez faire 19th century liberals whose ‘liberalism’ was seen to have failed to prevent the former systems from rising to power.
There are additional points I’d make here, like how liberals like Bentham, the Mills, Dewey are more than sanguine on the states role in moulding a liberal* citizenry through e.g. public education (which id hope would give the lie to liberalism being allergic to state coercion), or how there are structural/kuhnian losses when we try to prioritize certain ‘liberties’ that we view as safeguarding the individual such that we unintentionally/indirectly infringe ‘individual’s liberties’ somewhere else (a diabolically Hegelian point :snob).
*this use of the term ‘liberal’ is where we still find it resonate with its premodern sense. It’s such an old term that it’s difficult to disentangle without invoking it’s entire history, which is about as old as our recorded political tradition.
(i) Liberals have typically maintained that humans are naturally in “a State of perfect Freedom to order their Actions…as they think fit…without asking leave, or depending on the Will of any other Man” (Locke, 1960 [1689]: 287). Mill too argued that “the burden of proof is supposed to be with those who are against liberty; who contend for any restriction or prohibition…. The a priori assumption is in favour of freedom…” (1963, vol. 21: 262). Recent liberal thinkers such as as Joel Feinberg (1984: 9), Stanley Benn (1988: 87) and John Rawls (2001: 44, 112) agree. This might be called the Fundamental Liberal Principle (Gaus, 1996: 162–166): freedom is normatively basic, and so the onus of justification is on those who would use coercion to limit freedom. It follows from this that political authority and law must be justified, as they limit the liberty of citizens. Consequently, a central question of liberal political theory is whether political authority can be justified, and if so, how. For this reason, social contract theory, as developed by Thomas Hobbes
This might be called the Fundamental Liberal Principle
Right-wing populism often involves appeals to the "common man" and opposition to immigration.[16][1] Far-right politics sometimes involves anti-immigration and anti-integration stances towards groups that are deemed inferior and undesirable.[17] Concerning the socio-cultural dimension of nationality, culture and migration, one far-right position is the view that certain ethnic, racial or religious groups should stay separate and it is based on the belief that the interests of one's own group should be prioritised.
lol come on Shapiro is absolutely a far right ideologue. Even that conservative BBC guy called him out on it. The term has broader use than you're pretending it does.QuoteRight-wing populism often involves appeals to the "common man" and opposition to immigration.[16][1] Far-right politics sometimes involves anti-immigration and anti-integration stances towards groups that are deemed inferior and undesirable.[17] Concerning the socio-cultural dimension of nationality, culture and migration, one far-right position is the view that certain ethnic, racial or religious groups should stay separate and it is based on the belief that the interests of one's own group should be prioritised.
The term is often used to describe Nazism,[4] neo-Nazism, fascism, neo-fascism and other ideologies or organizations that feature ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, racist, anti-communist, or reactionary views.[5] These can lead to oppression and violence against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group,[6][7] nation, state[8], dominant culture or ultraconservative traditional social institutions.[9]p.
you just completely ignored my entire post
Right-wing populism often involves appeals to the "common man" and opposition to immigration.[16][1] Far-right politics sometimes involves anti-immigration and anti-integration stances towards groups that are deemed inferior and undesirable.[17] Concerning the socio-cultural dimension of nationality, culture and migration, one far-right position is the view that certain ethnic, racial or religious groups should stay separate and it is based on the belief that the interests of one's own group should be prioritised.
Mandark has been doing this for a full decade that I know of and is still going strong with it. I'm surprised you never get tired mah dude.
I'm the only one that matters, bb:heart
ok leadbelly... I have made a checklist of statements pertaining to issues both modern and historical and I'd like you to list either "agree" or "disagree" next to each one, with an optional ONE sentence of clarification (please use very sparingly). Within each section, I've tried to keep the point of view consistent. Here they are:I feel like if everyone did this the answers will be 99.9% the same
[public spending]
- If you earn more, you should pay more in taxes.
- The rich are not taxed highly enough in my country.
- It's shameful that people are allowed to make money simply by virtue of having wealth (stocks, rent, loans).
- Universal healthcare is a good idea.
- We should never privatize education.
- Higher education should be free, just like primary and secondary education are.
[identity issues]
- Racism is alive and well in my country.
- Systemic racism contributes to the continued oppression of racial minorities.
- Undocumented immigrants who have been living in my country should have some kind of legal status.
- Gender is a social construct and people should be free to identify as male or female.
- Human sexual preference is mostly biologically determined.
- Gay marriage should be legal.
- You should not be able to discriminate against someone on the basis of their sexual preference.
- Ditto, but for sexual identity.
- Ditto, but for race or gender.
[women's rights]
- Women have just as much of a right as men to be in the workplace.
- Contraception and abortion procedures should be legal (up to the third trimester).
- Abortion should be legal even in the third trimester.
- The cost of childcare is a major barrier for women to enter the workforce. We need public daycare or daycare vouchers.
- #MeToo is an important cultural movement.
[islam]
- People from majority muslim countries often have certain values which are fundamentally incompatible with western values.
- The refugee crisis in Europe is doing long-term damage to European society.
- Liberals are too quick to stand up for refugees from war-torn countries.
- We do not have a responsibility for fixing these countries or taking their needy.
- Christopher Hitchens was a brilliant debater.
[economy]
- Unions are, for the most part, a good idea.
- Laws that forbid workplaces from forcing employees to join unions are anti-union and should be opposed. [this used to say "Right to Work", which means something different in the UK, sorry]
- The government should provide a federal job guarantee because there is so much unemployment and so much infrastructure and community work that needs to be done.
- BREXIT is not a good idea.
- Free trade is generally good.
- CEOs make way too much money for what they actually do (nothing).
[climate]
- Climate change is real and anthropogenic.
- We should fund green technology.
- We should mobilize the nation to reduce our carbon output by a certain amount by a certain date.
- We should help depopulate Bangladesh into surrounding areas because it's going to be underwater and it's our fault.
[war and peace]
- My country should not sign a no-first-use promise for the use of nuclear weapons (my country should never use nuclear weapons first).
- My country's military protects my freedom.
- Saddam Hussein had to be deposed.
- If my country leaves Afghanistan, the Taliban will come back and my country will be at risk again.
- China is a threat to global peace.
- The US military should stay in South Korea.
- The US should overthrow the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
- My country should maintain its current level of defense spending.
[general liberal issues]
- My country puts far too many people in jail.
- Flagburning is a right.
- The death penalty is wrong and should be abolished.
- Irrespective of Israel's right to defend itself from terrorism, Palestine is illegally occupied.
- The sanctions on Venezuela are needlessly compounding its economic crisis.spoiler (click to show/hide)[scientific socialism]
- The industrial processes, especially supply chains with numerous levels of intermediate goods, are becoming increasingly more centrally planned by the firm owners, even and especially when these supply chains span multiple continents. This contradiction within the modern free market economy is empirical evidence that central planning by bureaucratic authorities in the age of computation is a perfectly efficient method of allocating resources.
- Work by economists like Hyman Minsky, Thomas Piketty, and Steve Keen, show rigorously that the existence of a privately owned finance sector produces a structurally unstable economy that is bound to produce serious economic crashes and exponentially greater inequality that is fundamentally inconsistent with democratic values. The nation's largest capital reserves must be publicly owned, from now until forever.
- When a large firm takes one component of its supply chain and moves it overseas from a developed nation to an underdeveloped one, with no change in the skillset of its labor or the efficiency of its capital, but the price of the intermediate good is still reduced by an order of magnitude, this is a deliberate act of exploitation which produces superprofits for the firm and/or superprofits for the consumer in the developed nation (and this surplus is then circulated through the rest of the economy, arbitrarily inflating its standard of living). Third world factory workers must unionize and reverse this "free trade" theft of wealth.
- The media is owned by major financial firms and operated by ruling elites and thus will always filter or distort news to serve its own interests. The public and labor must therefore own an alternative media.
- Post-USSR globalism has made income inequality even worse, both between nations, and within each nation.
- These and other contradictions will eventually lead to the end of capitalism itself.[close]
I feel like if everyone did this the answers will be 99.9% the same
the only acceptable answer to shosta's impromptu survey is "lol I'm not reading that"
momo, remember in the first thread where you'd try to give everyone else guidelines on how they should talk about peterson?kinda like leadbelly, i feel like you guys only engage in mockery when it's better and more useful to just call him on his religious fairy tales, which is why i dont participate in this thread much. I rather read the threads on reddit calling him and others on their bullshit directly.
that was very weird
the only acceptable answer to shosta's impromptu survey is "lol I'm not reading that"I know Leadbelly will, though. Look, I just need to know if he's actually a neocon and won't tell us.
I was hoping he copied it from elsewhere and didn't actually make it.
Cause otherwise I kind of feel bad, not enough to take it serious though
I dont think so, I feel we all generally have the same ideals but always need to find an enemy, however small the disagreement sample is. I'll answer it publicly if it gets a ball rolling to prove it lol
I feel like if everyone did this the answers will be 99.9% the same
If more than a handful of people did it (outside of the core crew), with the protection of completely anonymity there by completely decoupling their forum image from their answers, I'm not so sure.
There'd probably be some answers of extreme consensus, and some not so.
kinda like leadbelly, i feel like you guys only engage in mockery when it's better and more useful to just call him on his religious fairy tales, which is why i dont participate in this thread much. I rather read the threads on reddit calling him and others on their bullshit directly.
receipts.kinda like leadbelly, i feel like you guys only engage in mockery when it's better and more useful to just call him on his religious fairy tales, which is why i dont participate in this thread much. I rather read the threads on reddit calling him and others on their bullshit directly.
first, this forum doesn't have an audience to be won over, getting some jokes off with the boys is totally acceptable praxis.
second, a lot of what you objected to in that thread was calling him on his bullshit directly, but you weren't comfortable with those aspects being called bullshit, because either you agreed with it, or the conflict lines reminded you too much of left/right politics to which you're averse.
I wrote that for Leadbelly only and do not have the patience to read it multiple times from other peoplebut i already ticked one question
4)I'm going to hope you can take my word I can do the same in reverse here, I don't want to cause I didn't intend on spending time debating this garbage, but if you insist I will (much later, probably in a couple of days lol)
a lot of what you objected to in that thread was calling him on his bullshit directly, but you weren't comfortable with those aspects being called bullshit, because either you agreed with it, or the conflict lines reminded you too much of left/right politics to which you're averse.
receipts
I think a lot of you don't give Peterson credit when he makes sense and I think some of you are unwilling to call him out for the taking of wisdom from fairy tales bullshit, yes he derives at decent conclusion most of the time, but the source is fucking Hansel and Gretel or bible shit.
That post is saying 'attack his methodology not his conclusions' when the conclusions are obvious shit like 'work hard, clean your room' etc
oh my godQuote from: OblivionShos, I gotta say, I'm a bit disappointed with you. I totally expect someone like etiloiate to dismiss such an article, but not you.Then you've misread me completely. I side with etiolate most of the time he posts.
The only defense I can think of I've ever offered JP and friends is how disingenuous the media are about them, which stems from the same place.
If I ever disengage it's because i feel it's pointless and adversarial, I've gone back and forth for pages with Boredfrom and others, where I figure out i'm wrong or both of us moved positions slightly but sometimes I dont feel it's worth my time. I'm consistent when calling out media sources I read for dumb-assery btw.The only defense I can think of I've ever offered JP and friends is how disingenuous the media are about them, which stems from the same place.
the same thing you've done for alex jones, and when I asked for receipts you said "wow I'm so wounded you wouldn't just take my word for it but give me a couple days" then did nothing
Quote from: ShostakovichOk, Mandark. You caught me. I hate women.you keep bringing in stuff that i haven't said
i do think you resent feminists (and this was established outside this thread) tho
You do resent feminists
I'm consistent when calling out media sources I read for dumb-assery btw.
The quote about peterson links to the original wank dad thread. The quote about alex jones is from a PM, cause you decided you wanted to shift the discussion out of public for whatever reason.I clicked through and i'm more confused now, I guess I have to read a page back or something.
KEEP UP
Fuck you Mandark, I'm mad all over again
I specifically do though? I read the report then criticize it, hence the 'I read' in the sentence. :confusedI'm consistent when calling out media sources I read for dumb-assery btw.
I don't see why you need to be so closed-minded and dismissive of media sources you disagree with, instead of seeing their point of view and potentially re-examining assumptions on your own side?
omg, did I defend some people in the #metoo thread? :rkellyFuck you Mandark, I'm mad all over again
IIRC I was going off your "people gotta chill, whipping your dick out in public is fine" stance from the #metoo thread.
I specifically do though? I read the report then criticize it, hence the 'I read' in the sentence.
jake should have a blogthe blogosphere is dead and 90% of it moved to twitter and this is legit the shittiest thing ever for all the obvious reasons. An appropriate topic for a thread like this to cover is how worthless intellectual discourse is online in the first age where the internet’s everywhere and being used by everyone.
omg, did I defend some people in the #metoo thread? :rkelly
Don't you dare dig up receipts. I don't want to see them.
No, it should be considered as an inappropriate drunk groping during a Christmas party. That guy was so trashed everyone kicked him out of the party. That stuff just happens when you're blackout.
They are, how many Carlos Maza articles do you want me to send you? They do not hold themselves to a high standard of journalism, I read Vox but i fact check.I specifically do though? I read the report then criticize it, hence the 'I read' in the sentence.
No you don't, you make blanket statements about "the media" and don't back them up when asked for clarification.
Remember when you said Vox was just like Gawker? ell oh ell
don't ask for receipts if you don't want them.You hand them out anyway :rage
real story, there was a girl who was interested in me, and I gave her an anthology of Sylvia Plath poems for her birthday, and we straight up just stopped talking:fbm
maybe the canon would have worked better???
hey Jake, I just read The Genealogy of Morals. Can you... please explain to me how Nietzsche is not an anti-Semitic fascist?make it stop :stahp
Dude I get that you're conflict-averse and that's just a matter of personal disposition, but you gotta recognize that trying to impose guidelines in the middle of a roast is kinda priggish and not going to get good results.The fact that you see discussing ideas as a roast is a problem to me. I'm not averse to conflict or debate, I'm averse to wasting time.
Dude I get that you're conflict-averse and that's just a matter of personal disposition, but you gotta recognize that trying to impose guidelines in the middle of a roast is kinda priggish and not going to get good results.The fact that you see discussing ideas as a roast is a problem to me.
I can't point to an empirical metric. Actually, I can't even think of one that would be meaningfully related. I concede that's usually a good starting point for claiming anything is ever a problem at all.Shostakovich 2018 or Leadbelly 2019?
the blogosphere is dead and 90% of it moved to twitter and this is legit the shittiest thing ever for all the obvious reasons. An appropriate topic for a thread like this to cover is how worthless intellectual discourse is online in the first age where the internet’s everywhere and being used by everyone.
You're acting like having standards when discussing ideas is somehow a flaw and claiming what's happening in this thread (in general) is criticism. This thread and that one is different. I pop into this thread every couple of months and it's ad hominem and mockery garbage, which is fine, that's what this thread is. Originally when I complained, etoilet seemed to want to discuss his ideas seriously and I was willing to give him the space to do so and to offer criticism where applicable, so my complaints there doesnt apply here.Dude I get that you're conflict-averse and that's just a matter of personal disposition, but you gotta recognize that trying to impose guidelines in the middle of a roast is kinda priggish and not going to get good results.The fact that you see discussing ideas as a roast is a problem to me.
Well if it's a discussion of ideas, then jumping in to unilaterally dictate which aspects people should criticize would be even worse.
I finally got to the part in the thread where Etiolate flips out and posts pictures of starving kids. What a legendary thread.did you get to the part where he got unbanned and did it again? :lol
Originally when I complained, etoilet seemed to want to discuss his ideas seriously and I was willing to give him the space to do so and to offer criticism where applicable, so my complaints there doesnt apply here.
for sure.Originally when I complained, etoilet seemed to want to discuss his ideas seriously and I was willing to give him the space to do so and to offer criticism where applicable, so my complaints there doesnt apply here.
So now looking back you can see I had a more accurate read on the situation.
Honestly, I don't think that knowing someone for a long time means you need to consider their ideas more seriously (especially if they have a track record of dopey ideas), or that you necessarily need to handle them with kid gloves.Depends, I don't think he's coming from a disingenuous place, which is why it's worth having him explain further without sending him to the defensive place from the start. I'm always curious when people who have similar beliefs to me come to different conclusions, I feel there's an opportunity to learn or teach.
I can't wait till Mandark unveils his own problematic opinion so we can all dogpile him.I'd be in here trying to hold back the flood for Mandark too :mjcry
Like I dunno, if he was like a massive fan of Jane Austen or something.
I don't think he's coming from a disingenuous place
don't make the mistake of thinking I want to discuss bullshit like this seriously
Quote from: Shostakovichoh my godQuote from: OblivionShos, I gotta say, I'm a bit disappointed with you. I totally expect someone like etiloiate to dismiss such an article, but not you.Then you've misread me completely. I side with etiolate most of the time he posts.
shosta is proof that being relentlessly sassed by me builds characterwell, then you have to take responsibility for Kosma too :patel
ok leadbelly... I have made a checklist of statements pertaining to issues both modern and historical and I'd like you to list either "agree" or "disagree" next to each one, with an optional ONE sentence of clarification (please use very sparingly). Within each section, I've tried to keep the point of view consistent. Here they are:
[public spending]
- If you earn more, you should pay more in taxes.
- The rich are not taxed highly enough in my country.
- It's shameful that people are allowed to make money simply by virtue of having wealth (stocks, rent, loans).
- Universal healthcare is a good idea.
- We should never privatize education.
- Higher education should be free, just like primary and secondary education are.
[identity issues]
- Racism is alive and well in my country.
- Systemic racism contributes to the continued oppression of racial minorities.
- Undocumented immigrants who have been living in my country should have some kind of legal status.
- Gender is a social construct and people should be free to identify as male or female.
- Human sexual preference is mostly biologically determined.
- Gay marriage should be legal.
- You should not be able to discriminate against someone on the basis of their sexual preference.
- Ditto, but for sexual identity.
- Ditto, but for race or gender.
[women's rights]
- Women have just as much of a right as men to be in the workplace.
- Contraception and abortion procedures should be legal (up to the third trimester).
- Abortion should be legal even in the third trimester.
- The cost of childcare is a major barrier for women to enter the workforce. We need public daycare or daycare vouchers.
- #MeToo is an important cultural movement.
[islam]
- People from majority muslim countries often have certain values which are fundamentally incompatible with western values.
- The refugee crisis in Europe is doing long-term damage to European society.
- Liberals are too quick to stand up for refugees from war-torn countries.
- We do not have a responsibility for fixing these countries or taking their needy.
- Christopher Hitchens was a brilliant debater.
[economy]
- Unions are, for the most part, a good idea.
- Laws that forbid workplaces from forcing employees to join unions are anti-union and should be opposed. [this used to say "Right to Work", which means something different in the UK, sorry]
- The government should provide a federal job guarantee because there is so much unemployment and so much infrastructure and community work that needs to be done.
- BREXIT is not a good idea.
- Free trade is generally good.
- CEOs make way too much money for what they actually do (nothing).
[climate]
- Climate change is real and anthropogenic.
- We should fund green technology.
- We should mobilize the nation to reduce our carbon output by a certain amount by a certain date.
- We should help depopulate Bangladesh into surrounding areas because it's going to be underwater and it's our fault.
[war and peace]
- My country should not sign a no-first-use promise for the use of nuclear weapons (my country should never use nuclear weapons first).
- My country's military protects my freedom.
- Saddam Hussein had to be deposed.
- If my country leaves Afghanistan, the Taliban will come back and my country will be at risk again.
- China is a threat to global peace.
- The US military should stay in South Korea.
- The US should overthrow the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
- My country should maintain its current level of defense spending.
[general liberal issues]
- My country puts far too many people in jail.
- Flagburning is a right.
- The death penalty is wrong and should be abolished.
- Irrespective of Israel's right to defend itself from terrorism, Palestine is illegally occupied.
- The sanctions on Venezuela are needlessly compounding its economic crisis.spoiler (click to show/hide)[scientific socialism]
- The industrial processes, especially supply chains with numerous levels of intermediate goods, are becoming increasingly more centrally planned by the firm owners, even and especially when these supply chains span multiple continents. This contradiction within the modern free market economy is empirical evidence that central planning by bureaucratic authorities in the age of computation is a perfectly efficient method of allocating resources.
- Work by economists like Hyman Minsky, Thomas Piketty, and Steve Keen, show rigorously that the existence of a privately owned finance sector produces a structurally unstable economy that is bound to produce serious economic crashes and exponentially greater inequality that is fundamentally inconsistent with democratic values. The nation's largest capital reserves must be publicly owned, from now until forever.
- When a large firm takes one component of its supply chain and moves it overseas from a developed nation to an underdeveloped one, with no change in the skillset of its labor or the efficiency of its capital, but the price of the intermediate good is still reduced by an order of magnitude, this is a deliberate act of exploitation which produces superprofits for the firm and/or superprofits for the consumer in the developed nation (and this surplus is then circulated through the rest of the economy, arbitrarily inflating its standard of living). Third world factory workers must unionize and reverse this "free trade" theft of wealth.
- The media is owned by major financial firms and operated by ruling elites and thus will always filter or distort news to serve its own interests. The public and labor must therefore own an alternative media.
- Post-USSR globalism has made income inequality even worse, both between nations, and within each nation.
- These and other contradictions will eventually lead to the end of capitalism itself.[close]
I finally got to the part in the thread where Etiolate flips out and posts pictures of starving kids. What a legendary thread.
Forget what my intentions are. What you should be concerned with is, is there merit to my argument.
you reiterate this belief a lot but it's wrong and you probably don't even believe it
Yeah. I recall going through this with you before. There seems to be a bit of a blind spot there. I find it hard to understand why there is disagreement there.
If a serial killer said the sky is blue, it doesn't mean he must be wrong because he is a serial killer. The sky is blue.
Look it is not up to me whether you agree or disagree, it is up to you. And ultimately you either see logic in an argument or you do not. What you shouldn't be doing however is looking for ways to disagree simply because of a person's political leanings or whatever.
And I genuinely believe it because I realised it is actully beneficial to do this for my own intellectual development. It does me no good in the long run to hold to falsehoods. But it is hard to see that sometimes. And we're all ultimately biased creatures which includes myself. It is hard to get around that. When you listen to someone you fundamentally diagree with it is hard to listen. What you tend to do is find ways to dismiss them. Lets say one thing they say is inaccurate. That's enough for us to dismiss everything they say. Because we don't like what they have to say to begin with.
Again though, it's when you realise it is not actually beneficial to yourself that things seem to click. Not that you will be rid of all bias, but probably more aware of you're own infallibility on that matter.
omg, did I defend some people in the #metoo thread? :rkellyFuck you Mandark, I'm mad all over again
IIRC I was going off your "people gotta chill, whipping your dick out in public is fine" stance from the #metoo thread.
Don't you dare dig up receipts. I don't want to see them.
That's not true. I started defecting from et around the beginning of May and, while I don't want to overstate my role here, I'm pretty sure him losing his only toady in that thread tilted him right over the edge just two weeks later.
you seem malleable as fuck, I hope you never get approached by some cult like Tyler didhe already registered as a member of the Libertarian Party breh
I'm sort of sad I missed reactionary shosta, this is why you should never take a hiatus from the bore :mjcry
Holy crap, I forgot that we've already been here with Leadbelly, the furtive pygmy, so easily forgotten.
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45437.msg2429400#msg2429400
Shame on Mandark for not activating his photographic memory and linking us back to his posts from a year ago, and instead using it to besmirch me, an innocent bystander.
I'm sort of sad I missed reactionary shosta, this is why you should never take a hiatus from the bore :mjcryIt happens to the best of us. Just look at Dasha. (Sailor Socialism, why have you forsaken us? :rkelly)
i'm actually curious. at what point did you realize etoilet wasn''t a good role model anymore?Never, I still love Daddy.
Lol why is Leadbelly so fucking triggered
then why won't you complete my survey
Quotedon't make the mistake of thinking I want to discuss bullshit like this seriously
my philosophy towards all leadbelly posts
if someone was to talk about Enlightenment 'values' obviously they are talking about a certain set of ideas that came from that period, but not necessarily expressed by every thinker. Something like 'freedom of speech' for instance.you were employing the phrase ‘enlightenment values’ seemingly to refer to some kind of coherent political program. If that’s true, and you’re justified in using the phrase that way, then there must be a way of distinguishing what counts as a legitimate ‘enlightenment value’ and what doesn’t. So why does the phrase signify something like ‘freedom of speech’ but not ‘providential deism’ when the latter was held by at least as many people in the 18th century and is probably more characteristic of the period? My suspicion is that you’re probably better off just saying “he values freedom of speech” or whatever; ‘enlightenment values’ sounds sexier, to be sure, but only because the term ‘enlightenment’ has been politicized so much by people with no interest in reading the period on its own terms -Pinker is a pretty great example of this.
It is the root, the fundamental liberal principle. I am not sure exactly why you are contesting it. Yes, liberalism has morphed and changed, and yes liberalism has different schools of thought. However, the very essence of liberalism is the freedom of the individual and everything stems from there.the linked article does not say this; this is not the authors’ interpretation of liberalism. What they claim is that ‘Liberalism’ is best understood as the family of ideas that holds that restrictions on liberty must be justified.
It seemed like you put a lot of thought but your priors assumptions were wrong and as mandark patiently explained, you misunderstood the 60s.
tbh Momo, it's pretty disingenuous to say we are "just looking for enemies" when people routinely pop in here to defend the likes of Alex Jones and other chuds. But yeah, everyone totally has the same views about everything.I just want you guys to get along :trumps
Shosta's turn around was something to see. Dude went from Squiddy tier to legitimately fun shitposter.you guys are late to the party, I liked shosta from day 1 :quark
I get along with very few people here and on a very narrow selection of subjectsIt's easier if you delete politics from your brain, I like hating people, like transhuman, for petty reasons like being Australian better :ohyeah
:yeshrug
filler found new dad
As for Peterson, it was after getting owned in April (?) and then I went to jail briefly
That is not to say identity politics of the 60s was not needed. That wasn't the point of the argument. The point of the argument was to say that marxism and the left wing politics of the past understood the importance of class solidarity and thus seeked a universalist approach. Or another way of putting it, common cause to mobilise.
We touched on this in the LF thread a while back.
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45863.msg2658498#msg2658498
That is not to say identity politics of the 60s was not needed. That wasn't the point of the argument. The point of the argument was to say that marxism and the left wing politics of the past understood the importance of class solidarity and thus seeked a universalist approach. Or another way of putting it, common cause to mobilise.
We touched on this in the LF thread a while back.
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45863.msg2658498#msg2658498
. So one apsect which seems regressive, to some may seem progressive, is this greater acceptance of fragility. Ideas that seem to suggest to people that words are violence. And that we need some kind of psychic comfort to shield ourselves from the cutting words that wound so deep as to traumatise us. This totally destroys any notion of the robust individual who is capable of navigating public life.
weren't you just bitching about lefties being too mean to ben shapiro by calling him 'far right'?came from cindi posts and read this as "fat right"
weren't you just bitching about lefties being too mean to ben shapiro by calling him 'far right'?came from cindi posts and read this as "fat right"
It was a while ago, so you would have to expain it in detail then I could respond. However, I think, which I always think actually with Mandark, but could be wrong, and stand to be corrected, that he was missing the point. The point I was really making is the universalist approach to left-wing politics in the past was more effective. The idea of uniting under common cause. I also put it to him that this is actually the real way to change. And as point of example I referenced how Martin Luther King maybe wasn't assassinated because of his civil rights work, but rather when he switched his attention from race to class. Rather it is class solidarity that the establishment fears. And that what identity politics does (modern day identity politics) and intersectionality is fragment us into greivance groups. And this in turn makes real progress as in a real radical shift in the strucutres of government harder to acheive.So, I watched that Chomsky video you sent me and you seem to misunderstand it completely. He's saying that Americans have sanitized the civil rights movement of its class element. He is saying that it enjoyed broad popularity when the subject was equal treatment under the law and anti-discrimination but was not popular when MLK Jr. was advocating for economic justice. That ran up against the ruling power structure and so he was targeted by the FBI as a communist sympathizer in addition to being a radical organizer.
That is not to say identity politics of the 60s was not needed. That wasn't the point of the argument. The point of the argument was to say that marxism and the left wing politics of the past understood the importance of class solidarity and thus seeked a universalist approach. Or another way of putting it, common cause to mobilise.
Marxism is dead. And identity politics is the only game in town.I think you're operating off of way too many strawmans. You have spent too much time on the internet, or twitter, or whatever. Socialism is poppin. Your party leader is Jeremy Corbyn. In the last US election a socialist got 40% of the primary vote. You're living on a different planet if you don't see this.
A victim is a subject who is acted upon. Marxism at its core was revolutionary. Yet victimhood seems like the only currency in town at the moment. And weirdly it is a calling upon the state and instituations for protection. And in turn the state now panders to these grievance groups. And so when the state panders to you, you know you're not revolting. You are not revolting. And that might be just fine, and in some sense that is progress. fine. But to be clear you are not revolting.This is just a semantic game now. Besides, the very core grievance of Marxism is that the masses are the victims of surplus exploitation.
Grievances should be dealt with in a objective manner where if there is a problem you look to find a objective cause. However, most shit ends up nebulous and is just mapped on to a narrative.This is exactly what you are doing! Look, I see what the whole problem is. Get out and get involved and do stuff. Stop worrying that Anita Sarkeesian gets retweets. Don't worry about the people you think are "doing it wrong". Just advocate for the thing you think is right. No whining.
It was a while ago, so you would have to expain it in detail then I could respond. However, I think, which I always think actually with Mandark, but could be wrong, and stand to be corrected, that he was missing the point. The point I was really making is the universalist approach to left-wing politics in the past was more effective. The idea of uniting under common cause. I also put it to him that this is actually the real way to change. And as point of example I referenced how Martin Luther King maybe wasn't assassinated because of his civil rights work, but rather when he switched his attention from race to class. Rather it is class solidarity that the establishment fears. And that what identity politics does (modern day identity politics) and intersectionality is fragment us into greivance groups. And this in turn makes real progress as in a real radical shift in the strucutres of government harder to acheive.So, I watched that Chomsky video you sent me and you seem to misunderstand it completely. He's saying that Americans have sanitized the civil rights movement of its class element. He is saying that it enjoyed broad popularity when the subject was equal treatment under the law and anti-discrimination but was not popular when MLK Jr. was advocating for economic justice. That ran up against the ruling power structure and so he was targeted by the FBI as a communist sympathizer in addition to being a radical organizer.
That is not to say identity politics of the 60s was not needed. That wasn't the point of the argument. The point of the argument was to say that marxism and the left wing politics of the past understood the importance of class solidarity and thus seeked a universalist approach. Or another way of putting it, common cause to mobilise.
Let's be exceptionally clear about this next point: MLK Jr. was murdered by James Earl Ray because he was advocating for desegregation and the rights of African-Americans. That's it. James Earl Ray was not some secret agent of the establishment flying a false flag of racism to suppress a socialist. He was a segregationist and George Wallace supporter. He hated black black people and wanted to move to apartheid Rhodesia. There is no conspiracy here.
Concerning your broader point, I see no evidence that left identity politics is some trick by the ruling class to fracture the working class. Right identity politics certainly is used that way. But what you call left identity politics is usually the culmination of some long history of reaction against repression. The gay rights movement is the counterweight to decades of anti-gay repression. Black civil rights is a 400 year old story in the US. The Chicano movement encompassed exploitation of the latino working class and the treatment of Mexican-Americans in the entire society. I'm actually glad you brought up the 60s because in a big way, that whole decade was the height of the American leftand American maoism. But - and I tried to tell you this before - it was also the height of identity politics. You think it was different back then. It was, but not because they "universalized" it by reducing the identity component. It was complete because it embraced class issues in addition to the identity issues. Modern identity politics is incomplete without those same class issues.
In the past, whenever a subject like this came up, I had a friend who used to say "why do we have to choose between class issues and identity issues? Why not do both?" It's a false choice. Do both.
Remember King was assassinated when attending a sanitation strike
In terms of Martin Luther King, his attention moved from race to class. This was around the time he was assassinated. Some speculate that was why he was assassinated. Organising around class was seen as a much greater danger
It was the issues of poverty, class and anti-war that were pushing Dr. King further in the direction of Malcolm X. For this reason, he was murdered..
leadbelly's doing what i see a lot conservative/idw folk do where they try to downplay the identity politics part of the civil rights movement, which is generally the opposite of what you see taught in most classrooms (where they downplay the economics). it's a really tricky act to pull because it would be idiotic to deny identity played a role (after all, white people had no problem voting, the VRA was designed specifically for black people), so they grudgingly concede that point. But then argue that for whatever reason, up until 1965 it was JUUUUUUUUST the 'right' amount of identity politics, but all the OTHER idpol that happened afterwards was a great perversion of mlk's dream.
which in itself is even more hilarious cause mlk also supported affirmative action and reparations, both things leadbelly more than likely despises.
Just to be clear, when I speak about identity poilitics it is very much just an encapsulation of a certain ideological perspective. So for instance the Civil Rights Movement is not the identity politics of today. So one apsect which seems regressive, to some may seem progressive, is this greater acceptance of fragility. Ideas that seem to suggest to people that words are violence. And that we need some kind of psychic comfort to shield ourselves from the cutting words that wound so deep as to traumatise us. This totally destroys any notion of the robust individual who is capable of navigating public life. As I mentioned in a much earlier post, a victim is not an actor. And certainly can't be an actor on the world stage. A victim is a subject who is acted upon. Marxism at its core was revolutionary. Yet victimhood seems like the only currency in town at the moment. And weirdly it is a calling upon the state and instituations for protection. And in turn the state now panders to these grievance groups. And so when the state panders to you, you know you're not revolting. You are not revolting. And that might be just fine, and in some sense that is progress. fine. But to be clear you are not revolting. Marxism is dead. And identity politics is the only game in town.
Social justice is not the issue for me, the issue is the ideological base in which identity politics stands. And actually it almost seems like what the individual groups are supposed to be united around, but for various reasons ends up eating itself, is feminism. Destroying the patriarchy solves the problem of everything somehow. And that is an inadequate social theory in my mind to map on to every grievance. Grievances should be dealt with in a objective manner where if there is a problem you look to find a objective cause. However, most shit ends up nebulous and is just mapped on to a narrative.
Also, on the subject of universalism I like Kmele Foster because he gives a black perspective on it. I find this helpful in me having a more complete picture on the American dynamic of identity politics and the role it should and should not have on public discourse.
I honestly don't know where to start with all these assumptions and poo-poohs. You uphold marxist class action and analysis as an imperative. At the same time, you decry feminism as a killer of all social movements, seemingly denying that marxism's founders went out of their way to develop theories of exploitation of women as a central point in current and past class conflict (https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/index.htm). Socialist rhetoric has since the very beginning relied on victimhood narratives (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Internationale#Original_lyrics) to make a point as shosta said. If you think that the only worthwhile method of praxis in social justice is literal revolution, then...
I guess it's off for you to lend a hand in protracted people's war in the philippines then? :salute :doge
I guess it's off for you to lend a hand in protracted people's war in the philippines then? :salute :doge
Yeah I'm the one googling desperately, as the one in this conversation jumping across aisles to construct ahistoric versions of marxism, of feminism, of liberalism that happen to support his strong arguments like how " actually it almost seems like" feminism is tanking global social movements for equality.
Calling Marxism dead throws a blanket "fuck you" to every left movement and government in the world inspired by it which is one of the bolder takes on revisionism I've ever seen.
I guess it's off for you to lend a hand in protracted people's war in the philippines then? :salute :doge
I will also mention this is kind of funny, because according to Oblivion my motive as a conservative is to downplay the civil rights by emphasising class struggle. Because like that is a typical argument a conservative would make... or something.
I guess it's off for you to lend a hand in protracted people's war in the philippines then? :salute :doge
I will also mention this is kind of funny, because according to Oblivion my motive as a conservative is to downplay the civil rights by emphasising class struggle. Because like that is a typical argument a conservative would make... or something.
actually, it IS something that conservatives do. both typical standard conservatives who want to sow discord, but also from rightwing marxists who despise idpol just as much as any MAGA chud.
Leadbelly, i have to ask. i know you're obsessed with edge cases of sjw 'victimization' like trigger warnings or sensitivity training or whatever, but what are your thoughts on stuff like combating police brutality, mass incarceration, restoring voting rights to minorities?
and while we're at it, since you keep claiming that i'm criticizing you for things you don't actually believe in, what ARE your opinions on reparations and affirmative action?
Dude, i'm only going by what i've seen of your posts. if i'm mistaken, go ahead and explain your damn positions and i'll happily reevaluate my previous claims about you.
I have no issue with gay rights. I am pro choice.do this
Where on the spectrum do I fit? :thinking
My views don't just fit neatly into a box. That isn't so uncommon.
I have no issue with gay rights. I am pro choice.
Where on the spectrum do I fit? :thinking
My views don't just fit neatly into a box. That isn't so uncommon.
I don't think you're a covert agent I just think your ideas are confused and your fetishism of rational debate is as much about staking out an identity as anyone (God I hate how the other side has no interest in logic, how they never engage in good faith). You have a child's understanding of ideas like liberalism and want us to engage with your childish caricatures of them which is tiresome as fuck.Which you personally don't I might add. Funny that.
I simply said some speculate, which they do.:beli
That said, the point I was making is that older lefties understand the importance of class solidarity. That was the argument I was making. That real change is mroe likely through organising under class than race.Who is telling you to choose?
And I never said identity politics is a trick by the establishment. I never suggested this at all.Looking back, I misread something. My bad. Your actual position is that identity issues are not inclusive enough to get people who are not part of that identity on board so they fracture and divide. But genosse, this is still a false choice. Look at gay rights. Straight people made the choice to stand up for gay rights because they made a moral calculation to do so. Also, gay people organized together, along with their allies, for those rights, to solve that issue specific to their collective experience. An identity issue can only divide a class if people within that class choose to become enemies to the group in question whether than allies. So it reduces, again, to the simple question of whether you are an ally (on that issue) or not.
because formulating an actual argument suggests googling? I present an actual argument (lol). And what some of you do as a respone is shit like, 'what you really mean...' and, this thing you said here is wrong, because, [link to website I just googled].
please...
You don't really have an argument worth addressing, though. You've just constructed a bunch of narratives about how everyone is a victim now and it's hurting revolutionary ideology and shitting on intersectionality. I specifically used your "actually it almost seems like" phrasing because it seems like even you don't really believe the SJWs are killing real leftism line you're pushing right now.
And it's doubly bizarre because you seem to acknowledge that synthesis of so called identity issues with marxism has created some of its most successful movements which is prima facie obvious, almost all marxist revolutions of any success I can think of have come off the back of national liberation struggles.
Perhaps the reasons revolutions aren't happening in the first world is because.... material conditions aren't producing revolutionary ideology? The shift of manufacturing to the economic periphery? social-democratic welfare programs that improve material conditions just enough? fascism? imperialist hegemony? the legitimate failures of marxist revolutions used against them? more than a century of anti-worker propaganda?
no wait, i got it, throw out materialist analysis i blame everyone who looks like this -> :social
Do you know what I original said?yes, you said noam chomsky had classically liberal values
I said there are aspects of leftist thought in past that I thought was good, and better than the approach used today. I thought that approach was ineffective. THAT IS ALL. THAT IS ALL.ok i can tell everyone's exhausted. let's just end this discussion here. you think there was an inclusive working class movement in the middle of the twentieth century that was less likely to alienate workers than today's hollow liberalism. some of us think that you seriously misunderstand the details of those worker movements and that your criticism of identity politics is just an attack on a strawman. I think this is a good stopping point :doge
I simply said some speculate, which they do.:beliThat said, the point I was making is that older lefties understand the importance of class solidarity. That was the argument I was making. That real change is mroe likely through organising under class than race.Who is telling you to choose?And I never said identity politics is a trick by the establishment. I never suggested this at all.Looking back, I misread something. My bad. Your actual position is that identity issues are not inclusive enough to get people who are not part of that identity on board so they fracture and divide. But genosse, this is still a false choice. Look at gay rights. Straight people made the choice to stand up for gay rights because they made a moral calculation to do so. Also, gay people organized together, along with their allies, for those rights, to solve that issue specific to their collective experience. An identity issue can only divide a class if people within that class choose to become enemies to the group in question whether than allies. So it reduces, again, to the simple question of whether you are an ally (on that issue) or not.
There is good news: we live in democracies (modulo the factor of corporate influence). When you disagree with some issue, you vote against it. When you agree, you vote for it. If this hypothetical working class bloke you are thinking of was just about to reign in the finance sector, the tax evaders, and the rentiers, but the issue of, say, legitimizing sodomy turned him off, that says infinitely more about him and his alleged commitment to class issues than it does those who would put forth the identity issue in question.
I will grant you that this does apply in reverse, too. There are many times where people have had to choose whether to put aside their identity issues to advocate class ones when voting forsocial fascistsless than agreeable people. That's a choice that everyone has to make for themselves. For latinos wondering whether ICE will bust their door down and drag their abuela out of the house, their existential issue is more important than voting for Richard Spencer who wants universal healthcare and free college. For my gay Republican roommate who interned at the state capitol, he understood that his party wasn't really with him on LGBT issues, but it was ultimately more important to him to keep the debt down :beli, keep taxes low :beli, and "lead from the front" :beli. Anyway I just don't think this happens as often as you think and you're too stuck on a pink-haired straw-nonbinary-person (they/them) screaming at you about spreading your legs on the subway. This is a concrete thing so give concrete examples, it can never be solved in the abstract.
Do you know what I original said?yes, you said noam chomsky had classically liberal valuesI said there are aspects of leftist thought in past that I thought was good, and better than the approach used today. I thought that approach was ineffective. THAT IS ALL. THAT IS ALL.ok i can tell everyone's exhausted. let's just end this discussion here. you think there was an inclusive working class movement in the middle of the twentieth century that was less likely to alienate workers than today's hollow liberalism. some of us think that you seriously misunderstand the details of those worker movements and that your criticism of identity politics is just an attack on a strawman. I think this is a good stopping point :doge
Do you know what I original said?yes, you said noam chomsky had classically liberal values
anarchism would be the development of the remnants of classical liberalismhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Eu2Y8G5V0s
Just one more thing. You're joking though right? I did actually explain I wasn't actually saying that. I was saying the essence of liberalism is the freedom of individual and it is from that base in a social sense Noam comes from.I AM EMBARGOING THIS SUBJECT
I think sometimes liberal politics has a communication issue that alienates people like you but I also think there are a lot of alternative spaces, especially the socialist ones, that are not only more constructive but manage to be, yes, intersectional - they cater to class issues and they respect identity issues as well. It's big tent politics, dawg. I dated a sociology major once whose senior thesis was just 50 pages on male privilege. Like, I get it. But it's also not the whole thing, don't think the people who scream at Jordan Peterson are at all the majority force in politics right now. The majority force in politics are the neoliberals :dogeJust one more thing. You're joking though right? I did actually explain I wasn't actually saying that. I was saying the essence of liberalism is the freedom of individual and it is from that base in a social sense Noam comes from.I AM EMBARGOING THIS SUBJECT
I'm never posting in this thread again
I always land in the middle as a centristI have no issue with gay rights. I am pro choice.do this
Where on the spectrum do I fit? :thinking
My views don't just fit neatly into a box. That isn't so uncommon.
https://8values.github.io/
I always land in the middle as a centristI have no issue with gay rights. I am pro choice.do this
Where on the spectrum do I fit? :thinking
My views don't just fit neatly into a box. That isn't so uncommon.
https://8values.github.io/
https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=47.0&d=44.1&g=57.7&s=57.3 (https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=47.0&d=44.1&g=57.7&s=57.3)
I got autocracy :lol
So how is that green new deal going for you?I got autocracy :lol
did it again and got Leftwing Populism this time, just shifted a few answers that I'm iffy on
https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=61.0&d=28.2&g=33.8&s=48.9 (https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=61.0&d=28.2&g=33.8&s=48.9)
so I'm between autocracy and leftwing populism
https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=77.4&d=63.8&g=70.8&s=79.6
libertarian socialism it is
https://twitter.com/samharrisorg/status/997477640582742016I have no issue with gay rights. I am pro choice.
Where on the spectrum do I fit? :thinking
My views don't just fit neatly into a box. That isn't so uncommon.
damn bro you're blowing my fucking mind
Also the idea that you're not all reactionary fucktards is the funniest part. What is the dogpiling if not reactionary? The mind boggles.
So how is that green new deal going for you?I got autocracy :lol
did it again and got Leftwing Populism this time, just shifted a few answers that I'm iffy on
https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=61.0&d=28.2&g=33.8&s=48.9 (https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=61.0&d=28.2&g=33.8&s=48.9)
so I'm between autocracy and leftwing populismspoiler (click to show/hide)(https://i.imgur.com/xrmcISY.jpg)[close]
I was using it in the french revolution era sense, so I didn't bother to unpack that one
dogpiling is the tool of the masses
Assimilate wasn't even on the left economically. His one claim to liberalism was that he voted for Obama that one time.
edit: fuck, he also claimed that he voted for Clinton, but I don't believe him
he's someone who is insanely paranoid of pink haired college kids hiding under his bed.
Quotehe's someone who is insanely paranoid of pink haired college kids hiding under his bed.
Translation: leadbelly is someone who does not like identity politics and speaks about it.
As I said before for some reason people seem to want to exaggerate shit way out of proportion. which is human nature. I actually think it has something to do with why Trump got elected, for instance. And I find that reasonable reason to be critical of it. I don't think it is literally the end of world however. This isn't my topic of conversation in the real world. I don't go to the bar and rant about 'those damn liberals' or anything.
I simply said some speculate, which they do.:beliThat said, the point I was making is that older lefties understand the importance of class solidarity. That was the argument I was making. That real change is mroe likely through organising under class than race.Who is telling you to choose?And I never said identity politics is a trick by the establishment. I never suggested this at all.Looking back, I misread something. My bad. Your actual position is that identity issues are not inclusive enough to get people who are not part of that identity on board so they fracture and divide. But genosse, this is still a false choice. Look at gay rights. Straight people made the choice to stand up for gay rights because they made a moral calculation to do so. Also, gay people organized together, along with their allies, for those rights, to solve that issue specific to their collective experience. An identity issue can only divide a class if people within that class choose to become enemies to the group in question whether than allies. So it reduces, again, to the simple question of whether you are an ally (on that issue) or not.
There is good news: we live in democracies (modulo the factor of corporate influence). When you disagree with some issue, you vote against it. When you agree, you vote for it. If this hypothetical working class bloke you are thinking of was just about to reign in the finance sector, the tax evaders, and the rentiers, but the issue of, say, legitimizing sodomy turned him off, that says infinitely more about him and his alleged commitment to class issues than it does those who would put forth the identity issue in question.
I will grant you that this does apply in reverse, too. There are many times where people have had to choose whether to put aside their identity issues to advocate class ones when voting forsocial fascistsless than agreeable people. That's a choice that everyone has to make for themselves. For latinos wondering whether ICE will bust their door down and drag their abuela out of the house, their existential issue is more important than voting for Richard Spencer who wants universal healthcare and free college. For my gay Republican roommate who interned at the state capitol, he understood that his party wasn't really with him on LGBT issues, but it was ultimately more important to him to keep the debt down :beli, keep taxes low :beli, and "lead from the front" :beli. Anyway I just don't think this happens as often as you think and you're too stuck on a pink-haired straw-nonbinary-person (they/them) screaming at you about spreading your legs on the subway. This is a concrete thing so give concrete examples, it can never be solved in the abstract.
I agree with gay rights point. There was a time when there was a clear reason to mobilise. Homosexuality at one point was illegal in the law. When there are tangible causes to fight for, then yes, people will organise in solidarity. It is not so clear now, and fights not so obvious. And that's part of the problem but not the entire problem. And I do think the issue is fringe, always has been. The problem is, I think the fringe element is the one most vocal, and also the one more likely to seek certain positions within the institutions. You talk about the obvious pink-haired nutcase that shrieks nonsense. It is not one case though is it? It is more than one case. The whole 'straight white male' thing is not one person though right? It is actually thing. If I were to go to an intersectionality meeting, if I were white, which I am not, I would be expected to keep quiet to make space for minority voices to speak. This is a thing. It is divisive ultimately. And that is why we talk about it. You can say that it is overstated, but it can be understated. Google's diversity unit, it didn't happen in a vacuum right? There has to be a push for it to begin with. Which there was in the universities. It is a thing.
The irony is, you almost come across as insanely pathological about me.Like your obsession lies with me. This constant push to figure me out. Asking purity test questions. Constant dogpiling. What is that exactly? lol
I have written about or posted videos about subjects that are critical of those things, in a thread where that, originally on topic. Sure, it would a bit weird if it was an Anime thread and suddenly ranted about liberals. Yeah, that would be weird... but no.
If I were to go to an intersectionality meeting, if I were white, which I am not, I would be expected to keep quiet to make space for minority voices to speak.
Counterpoint: you are free to post whatever garbage you want, and other people are also free to mock you for it. No one is taking away leadbelly's freedom of expression lol
Most of the time I only post videos in this thread. Without comment.
The reason I have been speaking about it at length of late is because you engaged me. Don't get it twisted. I didn't write those posts without being prompted.
I'm not saying you are. Just don't give me the crap that it has nothing to do with heterodox opinions.
Counterpoint: you are free to post whatever garbage you want, and other people are also free to mock you for it. No one is taking away leadbelly's freedom of expression lol
I'm not saying you are. Just don't give me the crap that it has nothing to do with heterodox opinions.
I will respond to you jake later.
This came up with etiolate and the dislike of intersectionality specifically is baffling to me because the idea at its core seems simple and self-evident: oppression works on multiple axes, and we must be aware of this. There's so many social movements that provide examples of the need for this sort of awareness—the sexism rampant in the black power movement, or the overt and covert racism that's appeared in feminism past and present. If you want a really obvious example of this, go to r/aznidentity and look up WMAF.
you seem malleable as fuck, I hope you never get approached by some culthttps://8values.github.io/results.html?e=93.9&d=69.1&g=46.2&s=72.1
you seem malleable as fuck, I hope you never get approached by some culthttps://8values.github.io/results.html?e=93.9&d=69.1&g=46.2&s=72.1
wait leadbelly do you seriously think that complaining about white males being excluded from "intersectionality meetings " is not idpol victimization of the white male, the very same idpol victimization that you accuse the SJW's of engaging in?
That's what I dont get about reactionary chuds like Etoilet or Brett Weinstein. Idpol is bad, unless it's our idpol. Such as feeling empathetic for the plight of the incels or by the diminishing role of the straight white male in the society driving young white males to seek a sense of belonging in radical far right groups.
Because I have news for you buddy, even if they do have a point about those things, that's identity politics.
I will respond to you jake later.
I can't believe you scammed a like from jake by lying like that.
You should be ashamed of yourself. This is like fraud.
I will respond to you jake later.
I can't believe you scammed a like from jake by lying like that.
You should be ashamed of yourself. This is like fraud.
You people tempt me so much... Jakes pst was utterly irrelevant. I would have only been responding out of politeness.
Ah come on, this was fun. Watching someone go "Well you're not actually arguing against my arguments you're painting me as a strawman" while painting everybody else as strawmen is pretty hilarious.
I will respond to you jake later.
I can't believe you scammed a like from jake by lying like that.
You should be ashamed of yourself. This is like fraud.
You people tempt me so much... Jakes pst was utterly irrelevant. I would have only been responding out of politeness.
:gurl
I don't think you're a covert agent I just think your ideas are confused and your fetishism of rational debate is as much about staking out an identity as anyone (God I hate how the other side has no interest in logic, how they never engage in good faith). You have a child's understanding of ideas like liberalism and want us to engage with your childish caricatures of them which is tiresome as fuck.
so...is libertarian communist like more leftist than libertarian socialism? and where does marxism lie?https://github.com/8values/8values.github.io/blob/master/ideologies.js
so...is libertarian communist like more leftist than libertarian socialism? and where does marxism lie?https://github.com/8values/8values.github.io/blob/master/ideologies.js
You knw curly, I do remember your post, and was going to let it lie, again, out of politeness, but you have brought it on yourself I guess.(http://www.feelingoodtees.com/Assets/ProductImages/PS_0349W_SICK_CURE.jpg)
You can't be this dense surely? You seem not to understand basic words, like: to sum up; the essence of; the root of. Words that necessary qualifies a statement a certain way. We were not having a discussion on liberalism. And so when someone like Jake comes along and states shit like, 'you know there is a whole school of thought in liberalism' or 'liberalism is more nuanced than that', well... Yes. It. Is. It is utterly irrelevant and would have turned the discussion on a tangent. We were discussing Noam Chomsky for goodness sake.(https://i.imgur.com/xMIhZwQ.jpg)
If I only have a childlike understanding of liberalism and that it is not worth engaging, what is that suggesting about you? It is suggesting you have an expert understanding of liberalism and so engaging with me is beneath you. Yet, for some reason unbeknowest to me, you are contesting the fact that classical in essence IS about individual freedom. It is the 'root' of it. The foundational principle where all thought stems outward from. I can't for the life of me see why you would if you knew anything.
This demonstrates something to me. You are reading my posts at a distance. You're not trying to get the point I am making you are looking for something to get me on.(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ClutteredLavishBlacknorwegianelkhound-small.gif)
so what are all these posts about? should i read them to assign likes?
so what are all these posts about? should i read them to assign likes?
do you think it's possible for one of these tests to ever not have at least one question that you wonder what it's even supposed to mean or what it has to do with the eventual measures?
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highest is-I have no clue(https://i.imgur.com/7V7Rndv.png?1)
who's going to be the first person to move physically closer to The Bire server to increase their abilities in the Like market?
oh no, is this the beginning of like inflation
ya a drinky like is pretty high up there
As previously stated by the bore heads of like economy: a drinky like is a U2 album mysteriously showing up in your playlist AKA worthless.
filler likes are like paper cuts, everybody gets them regardless of status or whatever they were doing.
I will respond to you jake later.
I can't believe you scammed a like from jake by lying like that.
You should be ashamed of yourself. This is like fraud.
You people tempt me so much... Jakes pst was utterly irrelevant. I would have only been responding out of politeness.
:gurl
You knw curly, I do remember your post, and was going to let it lie, again, out of politeness, but you have brought it on yourself I guess.I don't think you're a covert agent I just think your ideas are confused and your fetishism of rational debate is as much about staking out an identity as anyone (God I hate how the other side has no interest in logic, how they never engage in good faith). You have a child's understanding of ideas like liberalism and want us to engage with your childish caricatures of them which is tiresome as fuck.
My original post was about Noam Chomsky. I think it was Shosta who couldn't understand how I could use the term 'classical liberal' and Noam Chomsky in the same breath. So I explained it in simple language so that it could be easily understood and so not to dwell on it. The topic was not about liberalism.
I stated, 'to sum up in one sentence' essentially the essence of classical liberalism is individual freedom. From that develops a series of questions which in turn form a body of work on the subject. For instance questions surrounding state power and the role of the state in protecting individual freedom. Whether state coercion is ever justified. More to the point whether there should be a state altogther. In other words from that foundational principle we get a train of thought that ultimately leads to anarchism, or limited government. If individual freedom is a state of being which is in some sense the right of every man, then the state's power over the individual becomes suspect. This is actually more detailed than my original post, but just to make this clear.
Here's the thing: When someone says 'to sum up in one sentence' anyone with half a brain cell, you would think, could understand that they are intentionally simplifying it. The clue is, you know... 'to sum up in one sentence'. Summing anything up in one sentence can only ever be a simplification. Yet for some unknown reason, people like you seem to interpret that as, this one sentence is literally the entire breadth of liberal thought. As if when I open a text book, I am expecting that one sentence and then, 'the end' (lol). You can't be this dense surely? You seem not to understand basic words, like: to sum up; the essence of; the root of. Words that necessary qualifies a statement a certain way. We were not having a discussion on liberalism. And so when someone like Jake comes along and states shit like, 'you know there is a whole school of thought in liberalism' or 'liberalism is more nuanced than that', well... Yes. It. Is. It is utterly irrelevant and would have turned the discussion on a tangent. We were discussing Noam Chomsky for goodness sake.
What's worse though is what is implied by your post. If I only have a childlike understanding of liberalism and that it is not worth engaging, what is that suggesting about you? It is suggesting you have an expert understanding of liberalism and so engaging with me is beneath you. Yet, for some reason unbeknowest to me, you are contesting the fact that classical in essence IS about individual freedom. It is the 'root' of it. The foundational principle where all thought stems outward from. I can't for the life of me see why you would if you knew anything.
I mean... read this first sentence curly.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/terms/classical_liberalism.htm
This demonstrates something to me. You are reading my posts at a distance. You're not trying to get the point I am making you are looking for something to get me on. I don't actually think you're as dense as you seem. What I actually think is you were looking for something as a point of contest. It was a short post of me explaining why I associated Noam with Classical liberalism. WHat it was not was an indepth conversation on liberalism. I was not writing an essay on liberalism. So why then do you make it such? Well, I think I know...
I think the economy should be based on something like a Willco like standard. He’s never coming back so there’s a finite amount, but he distributed them freely enough in his day that they may serve as a substitute for something like gold.I think he was long gone before the admins crumbled in the face of the people and added likes.
I'm reminded of ET's "what I say is dangerous to your worldview, so you reject it" spiel. :aahI'm not saying you are. Just don't give me the crap that it has nothing to do with heterodox opinions.
"lots of people make posts about how I'm wrong, but it's only because I'm expressing ideas they believe are wrong!"
really makes u think
this is why I took my talents to Twitter, much easier to farm hundreds of likes without breaking a sweat. I suspect that's what Besada was doing.
do you think it's possible for one of these tests to ever not have at least one question that you wonder what it's even supposed to mean or what it has to do with the eventual measures?Like twitch policies, it's left intentionally vague so they can ban you later
filler likes are like paper cuts, everybody gets them regardless of status or whatever they were doing.filler likes are like recreational drugs, if you're living solely off them you're probably in the dark place, used responsibly they are euphoric :ohyeah
filler likes are like paper cuts, everybody gets them regardless of status or whatever they were doing.filler likes are like recreational drugs, if you're living solely off them you're probably in the dark place, used responsibly they are euphoric :ohyeah
Last Active: 09-07-2019, 09:38:14
Noteworthy profile text:
"Take me back to 2004 when the world was saner."
:lol
I'm going to share something batshit crazy with you all since I feel like we're starting to gel now - and something ive been thinking about for a long time that I feel I need to get off my chest and random strangers on the internet is the best to do this because i would get laughed at irl.
I helped Maria sharapova win wimbledon 2004.
I was a young sad, lonely 14 year old boy. I lived with my grandparents, who were out all day, so that meant I got to steal the livingroom tv which had cable at the time. I was never a tennis fan, but flicking through the channels the live feed for the wimbledon match sharapova vs williams came on - when I saw sharapova I had a crush instantly, and learned she was 17, not much older than me ! :o
I dont know what came over me, I started shouting at the tv, as if I was trying to speak to her directly. I was keeping her updated on the scores ( so she could focus and not be distracted by looking away), reassuring her whenever she made a fumble, going nuts when she won a point, and generally giving her moral support the whole time.
By the end, Maria did amazing and won. From her focus to the stupid hints i tried to leave to test to see if she could actually hear me or not - I was pretty convinced she could hear me the whole time. I did something really sad, i recognise that now, so please dont laugh too much. I told her my name, and slowly told her my phoned number over and over (i had a mobile back then). Could not fucking believe my eyes, after hugging her dad, she does a b-line for her phone! Any rational person would think shes going to call someone shes close to but is not there - like her mum, but 14-year old me, especially after seeing he spend a randomly long amount of time fiddling with her phone before trying to make a call - obviously thought she was putting in my number.
So, I did one more test...
I told her "You can thank me if you want, but please dont say my name" - just before she was about to commence the post-match interview. Obviously in moments like these, the winner likes to remind everyone who helped them by shouting them out as thank. I know you're not going to believe me when I say this, but this is 100% fact. At the very end of that list of thank yous, she said " And I want to thank one more person, i wont say who you are, but you know who you are". I know right?WHAT THE FUCK?[/color][/glow][/b]
So the show ended, and I was left in a state of disbelief. I sat there looking at my phone, no notifications. Was I being an actual dumb fuck? I went into my room to play some melee and fall asleep. I thought about it for a few days after, but then life took over and a few weeks passed and I was on holiday at my grandparents caravan up north.
My grandparents were out to the market so I thought - being alone, I would chill with some burnout 3. As I was playing, my mobile - which was in my left pocket - went off. Someone was calling, as I pull the phone out my pocket, I quickly read the screen. It's an unknown number, but its weird, it doesnt look like a UK number. Back then, mobile numbers were not so spammed by telemarketers as they were landlines, and websites werent so desperate to try get as much personal info as possible. So really the only people who had my number were my family and friends from school. Plus it wasnt a company or premium number either, I cant remember what it looked like, but best guess would be a foreign area code.
When I saw that foreign number, my heart stopped, the thought of it actually being Maria Sharapova lasted for about half a second before my mind was dominated with "what if someone near by heard you back then, and is playing a prank on you? you were pretty loud.", but i couldn't not answer it, right?
So I answered the call, put it to my ear, "Hello is this Greg?" in a motherfucking russian accent. But it didnt sound exactly like her on the tv, so I was like nah fuck this shit mentally me response was rather aggressive "what is this a fucking prank? FUCK OFF". And hung up.
That was the only time that number ever called me.
In the years to follow, I wouldnt think about it so much, just from time to time. I've always pinned it as a prank, but I just can't help but think, really? I mean, it was a foreign number, and I lived next to an elderly couple and family gang house who knew nothing about technology. Anything past those houses you wouldnt have heard me clearly enough, and anyway, if it was a prank, would they really have given up after one try after going to all that effort?
I just dont fucking know man, what if, y'know?
There used to be a video on youtube of the full match with the post match interview, but its gone I think. When I find it, I will update this story, so if you have doubts that my intentions behind this post are genuine, hopefully you will see how this story fits into place. So far the best I could I find is a clip of her going for her phone (but this really lacks context of the whole event) and an interview where she tries to over explain being on her phone for so long by forgetting her mum would be on a flight at that time - but no - I want you to see the actual event.
I want the ability to boo posts.
YouTuber Steven Crowder set up one of his “Change My Mind” panels outside of the White House Monday and asked people to change his mind that President Donald Trump is not a racist.
Chaos ensued when an aggressive anti-Trump protester sat down at his table to discuss the topic. The protester refused to leave at Crowder’s request and prompted security to step in and physically remove him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN8MS057FPoJesus Christ sure has let himself goQuoteYouTuber Steven Crowder set up one of his “Change My Mind” panels outside of the White House Monday and asked people to change his mind that President Donald Trump is not a racist.
Chaos ensued when an aggressive anti-Trump protester sat down at his table to discuss the topic. The protester refused to leave at Crowder’s request and prompted security to step in and physically remove him.
can't fight fiat likes
What I do find very odd, though, is that any straight white male would buy into it. It's the same as if a gay Jew were to join the Nazi party and begin endlessly apologizing for his ancestors having lent money to Aryans at too-high rates of interest; and agreeing that he needs to recognize his "problematic Jewishness" and "toxic homosexuality", stop talking, and make space for Aryan voices to be heard. He might even take pride in having acknowledged the uniquely cancerous and exploitative nature of the Jewish people, despite being one himself. So is this person virtuous, or is he just too-easily manipulated? You decide.
Cindi, I think you have some ideas mixed up. Libertarianism is about deleting your Facebook and joining a Mastodon server so you can buy loli porn with bitcoin(https://external-preview.redd.it/ZfcSP67CjovaRvPWd97eDGvzf2qKM9B3B5OlIoMYZRc.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=46f889766dd189eeed0777de127cb440779c327f)
https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1160580368015118337
:brain
Every subreddit founded on circlejerk or counter-circlejerk is pure trash.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DtYnAPAU0AAkujn.jpg)Image is too damn big and ugly. Click if ya want.
It's sort of pointless... It's kind of like talking about the founding principles of the United States and saying we must talk about slavery.
The "white people don't get enough credit for ending slavery" argument is just... :dead
If the land in which the United States was founded has been tainted by racism since the 1600s and everything derived therefrom is therefore tainted, then the US is illegitimate, the constitution is illegitimate, and revolution is the answer
the NYT 1619 ProjectI'm just going to assume this is related to what Neil Gaiman already did for Marvel with 1602 :hmph
:dead fuck
https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/1163244127334670336
The "white people don't get enough credit for ending slavery" argument is just... :dead
seeing that youtube account made me google you
I found this, this is you now as far as I'm concerned
https://myspace.com/benjipwns/photos
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yeah this night was pretty fun.. shes a really great listener
you were a part of the vermont university academic material btwCOPYRIGHT THEFT!!! WHERE ARE MY LAWYERS!
https://www.uvm.edu/pdodds/teaching/courses/2018-01UVM-303/assignments/02/
hope you were fairly compensated
Why do we keep doxxing benji in this specific thread? :doge
https://twitter.com/EmperorInvictus/status/1163462957281533952
The "white people don't get enough credit for ending slavery" argument is just... :dead
Hot take: it's a tricky thing but I think it's not exactly wrong, and it goes beyond slavery. If we look at British attitudes towards colonialism post-war, I think there is a pretty significant factor of white people rejecting colonialism of the right reasons (instead of say rejecting it because it leads to London being full of Indians). I also think that this is significant in why India was less like how France* treated its colonies post-war. For a more modern example, look at how a lot of white men are using their power now to support women and non-white people in entertainment. It's also why a lot of liberals white people can laugh at white-people-are-awful, because in our heads, (and of course this is not always correct) we think 'they mean those other white people - the bad ones'. There are a lot of white men who are allied to people who have been and are discriminated against, and that is an important part of the story that is hard to tell without it seeming like white men taking credit for minority achievements. The issue then because that a lot of liberal white people quietly think this but its not a part of the open narrative which conservative people view as a rejection of this.
* super hot take: The French are not white and may not be human.
Dunno about y'all but I love to see the abolition of slavery and colonialism as the products of European benevolence and not as the transition to more suitable forms of domination like wage-labor and imperial monopoly-capital (both of which are also enforced with guns, extra-national ruling bodies and blockades). And certainly not as cagey measures to prevent the reoccurrence of Haiti or 1917.
I agreed with your post which is why I liked it :(
But that need to be said with some tact because while it's good, it does not by itself right past wrongs. The gross part is reducing it all to just a "White" story with no agency granted to everyone else (though ironically, some of the most virulent voices claiming to speak for the oppressed will do just that).
:yeshrug
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:jeb
https://twitter.com/ModalSevenths/status/1163772630266048513
Destiny has gone full blown Etiolate.
i assume copying daddy trump? there was a good period where these dopes suddenly all loved mcdonalds because of donny
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Okay, I'm even more curious know, wtf is orange man doing with 3000 crap burgers :/Aside from the above stuff, Trump legitimately does love fast food. KFC is a top favorite.
https://notjordanpeterson.com/https://www.jordanbpeterson.com/blog-posts/i-didnt-say-that/
Something very strange and disturbing happened to me this week. If it was just relevant to me, it wouldn’t be that important (except perhaps to me), and I wouldn’t be writing this column about it. But it’s something that is likely more important and more ominous than we can even imagine.
There are already common fraudulent schemes being perpetrated by both telephone and internet. One know as the “Grandparent Scam” is particularly reprehensible, first because it is perpetrated on elderly people who are, in general, more susceptible to tech-savvy criminals and second because it is based on the manipulation of familial love, trust, and compassion. The criminal running the Grandparent Scam calls or emails the victim, pretending to represent a grandchild who is now in trouble with the law or who needs money for a hospital bill for an injury that can’t be discussed, say, with parents, because of the moral trouble that might ensue. They generally call late at night—say at four in the morning—because that adds to the confusion. The preferred mechanism of money movement is wire transfer—and that’s a warning: don’t transfer money by wire without knowing for certain who is receiving it, because once it’s gone, it’s not coming back.
Now what if it was possible to conduct such a scam using the actual voice of the hypothetical victim? Worse, what if was possible to do so with voice and video image, indistinguishable from the real thing? If we’re not at that point now (and we probably are) we will be within months.
In April of this year, a company called Coding Elite exposed an artificial intelligence (AI) program that to a substantial sample of my voice, which is easily accessible on the YouTube lectures and podcasts that I have posted over the last years. In consequence, they were able to duplicate my manner of speaking with exceptional precision, starting out by producing versions of me rapping Eminem songs such as Lose Yourself (which has now garnered 250,000 views) and Rap God (which has only garnered 17,000) as well as Rock Lobster (1400 views). They have done something similar with Bernie Sanders (singing Dancing Queen), Donald Trump (Sweet Dreams) and Ben Shapiro, who also delivered Rap God. The company has a model, the address of which you can find on their YouTube channel, which allows the use to make Trump, Obama, Clinton or Sanders say anything whatsoever.
I happen to think Rap God is an amazing piece of work, and when I first encountered my verbal avatar belting out the lyrics I thought that it was cool, in a teenage tech-geek sort of way. And I suppose it was. This caused quite a stir on the net in April, with media companies such as Forbes and Motherboard (a division of Vice) noting that the machine learning technology only required six hours of original audio (that is, actually generated by me) to produce its credible fakes, matching rhythm, stress, sound and prose intonation.
This week, however, a company called notjordanpeterson.com put an AI engine online that allows anyone to type anything and have it reproduced in my voice. It’s hard to get access to or use the site, at the moment, presumably because it is currently attracting more traffic than its servers can handle.
And what of the legality of this process? It seems to me that active and aware lawmakers would take immediate steps to make the unauthorized production of AI Deep Fakes a felony offense, at least in the case where the fake is being used to defame, damage or deceive. And it seems to be that we should perhaps throw caution to the wind, and make this an exceptionally wide-ranging law. We need to seriously consider the idea that someone’s voice is an integral part of their identity, of their reality, of their person—and that stealing that voice is a genuinely criminal act, regardless (perhaps) of intent. What’s the alternative? Are we entering a future where the only credible source of information will be direct personal contact? What’s that going to do to mass media, of all types? Why should we not assume that the noise to signal ratio will creep so high that all political and economic information disseminated broadly will be rendered completely untrustworthy?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXOhbLZ91WI
I can tell you from personal experience, for what that’s worth, that it is far from comforting to discover an entire website devoted to allowing whoever is inspired to do so produce audio clips imitating my voice delivering whatever content the user chooses—for serious, comic or malevolent purposes. I can’t imagine what the world will be like when we will truly be unable to distinguish the real from the unreal, or exercise any control whatsoever on what videos reveal about behaviors we never engaged in, or audio avatars broadcasting any opinion at all about anything at all. I see no defense, and a tremendously expanded opportunity for unscrupulous troublemakers to warp our personal and collective reality in any manner they see fit.
Wake up. The sanctity of your voice, and your image, is at serious risk. It’s hard to imagine a more serious challenge to the sense of shared, reliable reality that keeps us linked together in relative peace. The Deep Fake artists need to be stopped, using whatever legal means are necessary, as soon as possible.
Unfortunately as I was processing the last part of the lyrics on notjordanpeterson.com, they shut down the service and I was unable to finish the song. The last portion of the song ended up sounding like Jordan was having a grand mal seizure. Maybe it had something to do with them turning everything off while it was processing. It's literally the sound of the website dying. RIP notjordanpeterson.com.
In light of Dr. Peterson's response to the technology demonstrated by this site, which you can read here, and out of respect for Dr. Peterson, the functionality of the site will be disabled for the time being.
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I will be writing a longer blog post this weekend that will outline my experience building the site, the public's reaction, where I think technologies like this are headed in the coming years, and what are some ways we can adjust to its existence as a society in a net positive way.
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https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1164716990143111168
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0NzYQvMw0sDidnt hear a single thing :mouf
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh6rVbjH0Fo
:nope :nope
Conservatives reacting to the NYT 1619 Project:I see that, and I raise you.It's sort of pointless... It's kind of like talking about the founding principles of the United States and saying we must talk about slavery.
https://twitter.com/FDRLST/status/1164567908896235521
I dont know where else to post this, I dont know who this is or where to find the original video, but I feel shosta needs to see this so he can stay safe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEUX3Q1a1GQ
https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1166146056448614406
If we all agree that gender is a construct that hurts men and women and divides us in various ways, isn't it just better to yeet it?esch inching closer and closer towards social category nominalism :money
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1xxcKCGljY&feature=youtu.be
The last third is pretty good
Her solution is sort of gender 'reformist', yeah? Why do we have to construct a notion of proper masc to replace the old one? I would suggest that there's danger in constructing a new correct, nontoxic masculinity in the place of a blatantly shit one. If we all agree that gender is a construct that hurts men and women and divides us in various ways, isn't it just better to yeet it?
Very :hitler for someone who clearly leans toward a libsoc mentality to say the left needs to tell those lost boys what to be and do. Sounds very authoritarian, no thanks Tatyana Tankikova.
why is Boxxy talking about pedophilesShe's pretty much just a social commentator now, heard a show of hers once and she sounded dumb, then heard another and she sounded alright so i've been checking in on and off.
why is Boxxy talking about pedophilesShe's pretty much just a social commentator now, heard a show of hers once and she sounded dumb, then heard another and she sounded alright so i've been checking in on and off.
why is Boxxy talking about pedophilesShe's pretty much just a social commentator now, heard a show of hers once and she sounded dumb, then heard another and she sounded alright so i've been checking in on and off.
why is Boxxy talking about pedophilesShe's pretty much just a social commentator now, heard a show of hers once and she sounded dumb, then heard another and she sounded alright so i've been checking in on and off.
Is she still dating that dude that uses some kind of knight armor as his avatar? Maybe "Knight" was even part of his name.
I don't really know much of Ngo or Quillette so can someone fill me in a little bit? He is/was a journalist for that publication and decided to quit because some far right group was gonna protect him (from what? I know he got roughed up a little in Portland. Crying that those "darn Antifas huwt lil ol me") and he was gonna protect a far right group how? By virtue of his writing?https://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2019/08/26/27039560/undercover-in-patriot-prayer-insights-from-a-vancouver-democrat-whos-been-working-against-the-far-right-group-from-the-inside
Or did he get fired by Quillette? So we are laughing at him for not even having a home on a crappy conservative publication?
yeah she's still dating that weirdo, it's weird cause she's pretty left leaning and he's a goober lmao, also I know it's not boxxy, I dunno why i answered that way but i assumed you meant why she isnt doing videos like her old ones :brainWhen you said you don't know who this person is, I assumed you meant her, not the dude. :lol
https://twitter.com/AntiFashGordon/status/1166215901450067968
uh...what's the issue momo?Couple of things:
- 'Trump sexually assaulted a dozen women' literally fake news.
https://twitter.com/XasthurWithin/status/1163441859215147008
Things I dont expect to hear from Fox :dead
- No one in the media I have heard has ever claimed Trump is 'good' as this seems to imply - 'Trump sexually assaulted a dozen women, but Bernie is bad' at best people who defend him (I dont listen to far right commentators) are moderates who say he isnt as bad as the general media claims.He is replying to Sean Hannity. Fair implication, I think. And wide swathes of the US public do listen to far right commentators.
Feels like you were out of your element on this one, Momo.not really, I care about what I care about, which is mostly people I listen to playing it as straight as possible. Pakman is a smart bloke and I like what he has to say on a variety of topics, but I really can't stand culture war shit.
uh...what's the issue momo?Couple of things:
- I dont listen to David Pakman to get more orange man bad, he's generally pretty good at being principled. Adding Donald Trump into that is just unnecessary orange man bad. The story is about an asshole owner and an alleged asshole Bernie.
- No one in the media I have heard has ever claimed Trump is 'good' as this seems to imply - 'Trump sexually assaulted a dozen women, but Bernie is bad' at best people who defend him (I dont listen to far right commentators) are moderates who say he isnt as bad as the general media claims.
- 'Trump sexually assaulted a dozen women' literally fake news.
Bit of a side track but culture war as a term is such a broad, vague and nebulous one that I feel like it could literally apply to any and all arguments. So when is something not a "culture war"?
Feels like you were out of your element on this one, Momo.not really, I care about what I care about, which is mostly people I listen to playing it as straight as possible. Pakman is a smart bloke and I like what he has to say on a variety of topics, but I really can't stand culture war shit.
they arent wrong though, I chose not to engage with you because I cant be arsed.
:foodcourtthey arent wrong though, I chose not to engage with you because I cant be arsed.
homie this is your fourth reply since getting corrected nobody's buying this shit
I chose not to engage with you, galaxy brain, also Oblivion because he randomly accused me of stuff when he could have just asked.
It's a different day my being nice quota reset :idontI chose not to engage with you, galaxy brain, also Oblivion because he randomly accused me of stuff when he could have just asked.
you're engaging with me now
Forget that Momo. My question was genuine: what would you say isn't "culture war"? Cause I think you have a different way of looking at it.There's 4 or 5 main components of what I see as culture war products that annoy me, one much more so than others.
tbh I really wanna know how the long list of accusations against trump for sexual assault are "fake news."David Pakman didn't present them as accusations and this goes into what im saying about people misrepresenting things to get a dunk. I get twitter isnt a medium that allows you to be verbose, however he chose not to keep it in his pants when he easily could have or just tweeted about how dumb the Bernie thing is, sans Trump.
I would still like to know what doesn't count as culture wars to you?Do you mean in a political sense? News? The culture wars is pretty much limited to the alliance of anti-intersectional-fems/conservatives/centrists/trumpeters against intersectional-fems/further-leftist/ant-trumpers fighting each other, the issue is it spans waay too many topics. I'm not convinced the first group of people even like each other tbh :lol
In that specific context Sean Hannity is a well know Trump dick rider, and he was going at Bernie for being a candidate that could face Trump. So it's not exactly shocking that trump would be brought there.It doesn't matter to me who it is. I'm not trying to remove the context, I'm saying despite the context he can be better, I expect him to be better and I want him to be better as this isnt why im a listener. Tbh he doesnt do this really in podcast/interview form and yesterday was one of the 5 days a year i chose to open twitter.
I do get what you mean by your earlier posts. Be it anime or comics you'd like to discuss something without it being a political debate, hell I relate to that fully. Especially when it's full on this is either SJW or Alt-right when it doesn't have to be. But my argument with you on that very example is that it was political to the US from the jump, so any reply was going to be that.
that reminds me I need to yell at shosta more for that. I mean goddam.this is so passé. New shosta makes outrageously wrong analyses of the media every week, like this time I blatantly lied to you just to save face. (http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=44608.msg2558265#msg2558265)
I still don't see how 2) applies in this case. Sean Hannity is a prominent Fox News host who has defended Trump in the past (Trump tacitly admitted to expecting support from them, cause he was upset they criticised him for a change). Bringing up his double standards when he goes after Sanders for something minor is perfectly valid. Should he have held off because Trump is otherwise being bashed unfairly just to 'balance' the scales?
1) politicization of entertainment, be it comedy or games or comics or whatever. It's infuriating having to deal with people REEEEing that Dave Chapelle made a joke and it's also infuriating that people rally against things like America Chavez getting a Marvel TV show. Who cares, fuck off both camps, dont watch it.
2) Trump derangement syndrome, making everything about Trump (like reverse thanks Obama) and or being opposed to anything he does even when good because hey it's Trump.
3) News commentators (thing i care about most), misrepresentation of your opponents and facts so you can get a dunk on the libs/conservatives/MCU/DC, I care mostly about this because it impacts conversations I have with others as you have to first wade through the garbage to get to an actual conversation and mostly by then everyone's checked out of the topic. Dont care if people here do it because it's just fun and jokes, I do care when it's Pakman.
reflexive anti-cirklejerk
Anti-circlejerk against a guy i like in favor of a guy i dislike. You can call whatever you want my dude.I still don't see how 2) applies in this case. Sean Hannity is a prominent Fox News host who has defended Trump in the past (Trump tacitly admitted to expecting support from them, cause he was upset they criticised him for a change). Bringing up his double standards when he goes after Sanders for something minor is perfectly valid. Should he have held off because Trump is otherwise being bashed unfairly just to 'balance' the scales?
1) politicization of entertainment, be it comedy or games or comics or whatever. It's infuriating having to deal with people REEEEing that Dave Chapelle made a joke and it's also infuriating that people rally against things like America Chavez getting a Marvel TV show. Who cares, fuck off both camps, dont watch it.
2) Trump derangement syndrome, making everything about Trump (like reverse thanks Obama) and or being opposed to anything he does even when good because hey it's Trump.
3) News commentators (thing i care about most), misrepresentation of your opponents and facts so you can get a dunk on the libs/conservatives/MCU/DC, I care mostly about this because it impacts conversations I have with others as you have to first wade through the garbage to get to an actual conversation and mostly by then everyone's checked out of the topic. Dont care if people here do it because it's just fun and jokes, I do care when it's Pakman.
I'm calling reflexive anti-cirklejerk. I've been there, cause I don't like zealotry either.
Bit of a side track but culture war as a term is such a broad, vague and nebulous one that I feel like it could literally apply to any and all arguments. So when is something not a "culture war"?sloppy prima facie take: ’culture’ in general is a black box in which to throw whatever doesn’t fit/can’t be accounted for. it’s an explanation for when you don’t actually have an explanation
:lol
Alternative way to let people know you're a libertarian without having to say "as a libertarian": Bring up sexual age of consent laws for no reason
I chose not to engage with you, galaxy brain, also Oblivion because he randomly accused me of stuff when he could have just asked.
uh...what's the issue momo?
Couple of things:
- I dont listen to David Pakman to get more orange man bad, he's generally pretty good at being principled. Adding Donald Trump into that is just unnecessary orange man bad. The story is about an asshole owner and an alleged asshole Bernie.
- No one in the media I have heard has ever claimed Trump is 'good' as this seems to imply - 'Trump sexually assaulted a dozen women, but Bernie is bad' at best people who defend him (I dont listen to far right commentators) are moderates who say he isnt as bad as the general media claims.
- 'Trump sexually assaulted a dozen women' literally fake news.Quote
dude literally every single thing here is wrong lol
also, using the 'orange man bad' meme? something tells me you don't hate culture war stuff as much as you let on :doge
that reminds me I need to yell at shosta more for that. I mean goddam.
I mean right there in that quote you said 'something tells me you don't hate culture war stuff as much as you let on' and yeah we're pretty civil so sorry for not answering, I was actually annoyed that Mandark even replied to me, then I saw naff and you post about how I like the culture war and I just decided that's enough for me for today, again sorry :(I chose not to engage with you, galaxy brain, also Oblivion because he randomly accused me of stuff when he could have just asked.
whoa, whoa WHOA
let's go back to what i ACTUALLY said:uh...what's the issue momo?
Couple of things:
- I dont listen to David Pakman to get more orange man bad, he's generally pretty good at being principled. Adding Donald Trump into that is just unnecessary orange man bad. The story is about an asshole owner and an alleged asshole Bernie.
- No one in the media I have heard has ever claimed Trump is 'good' as this seems to imply - 'Trump sexually assaulted a dozen women, but Bernie is bad' at best people who defend him (I dont listen to far right commentators) are moderates who say he isnt as bad as the general media claims.
- 'Trump sexually assaulted a dozen women' literally fake news.Quote
dude literally every single thing here is wrong lol
also, using the 'orange man bad' meme? something tells me you don't hate culture war stuff as much as you let on :doge
1. i said your previous statements were incorrect
2. i said you saying certain things led to certain assumptions being made
and these (or at least the latter) were bad enough that you felt the need to blow up at me? come on, son!
what's funny is that i actually sorta like ya, momo. and i've always been pretty civil to ya as far as i can recall. so i don't appreciate you assuming things about me cause of me assuming things about you! :punch
orange man is bad thoThis is true, but I dont need people telling me orange man is bad when reading a Dave Chappelle comedy special review :idont
Bit of a side track but culture war as a term is such a broad, vague and nebulous one that I feel like it could literally apply to any and all arguments. So when is something not a "culture war"?There's actually a "proper" answer to this that's sorta obvious. It comes from Bismarck's Kulturkampf and while it was reflected in American lexicon during the first wave of MASSIVE UNCHECKED IMMIGRATION it wasn't truly established as a term until Pat Buchanan gave his speech, which I will link at the end here.
Michael DAntonio
3 years ago
THAT GREAT 1992 RNC SPEECH - THE GREATEST SPEECH I EVER HEARD - ONE THAT HAD INSPIRED ME TO TEARS, PUNCHING THE FLOOR YELLING, "THANK YOU PAT!" THAT RNC SPEECH WAS WRITTEN AND DELIVERED BY MY 2000 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION WRITE-IN CHOICE, THE REFORM PARTY CANDIDATE - THE GREAT PATRICK J. BUCHANAN! GOD BLESS AMERICA AND GOD BLESS PATRICK JOSEPH BUCHANAN!
Travis Hammer
8 months ago
Pat Buchanan and Ross Perot both saw the writing on the walls and predicted the problems we face today.
AIKsupporter
1 year ago
it would take 24 years for his ideas to reach the White House but better late then never
which is why you can have such quirks as alt-right Gamers fighting for women in games to dress however while the ResetERA.com male feminists demand they COVER UP
They are real. I've actually even played some of them.which is why you can have such quirks as alt-right Gamers fighting for women in games to dress however while the ResetERA.com male feminists demand they COVER UP
just realized that benji thinks videogames are real and things are starting to make more sense now
Ashe's character, like many others, was created after the fact of her design. She exists as a foil to McCree because, upon settling on a design, they simply made her that way. We don't know how she would've been characterized as a black woman because Blizzard didn't give her the chance to be a black woman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxoOwF4sK8Y
Shoeonhead has been going hard into pedos lately, on one hand cool on the other, who really wants to be known as the pedo detective lmao
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1167608530284818439so this is how Stefan spent his weekend
Prolly has a lot of seats around her house just in case someone needs oneShoeonhead has been going hard into pedos lately, on one hand cool on the other, who really wants to be known as the pedo detective lmao
She looks like one of those 20-somethings that Chris Hanson uses to trick dudes into thinking they're meeting a 14 y/o.
I love how you can always count on benji to go on a deep dumpster dive into the comment section :lolI always tap out early. I don't know how he does it.
What's a blazetv
What's a blazetv
does the set top box have smellovision? :aahWhat's a blazetv
420blazetv
Former White House assistant Seb Gorka once suffered from debilitating lower back pain, but he is now miraculously “pain free” after taking a job hawking fish oil supplements — and you, too, can be rid of your bodily aches for a small subscription price of $19.95 plus shipping and handling.
Gorka, who was ousted by the Trump administration in 2017, lost his contributor gig at Fox News in March and has now moved onto the role of spokesperson for Relief Factor, a health and wellness company that sells an over-the-counter pain reliever with a main ingredient of fish oil.
“Sebastian Gorka here for Relief Factor. First of all, let me say I have never before endorsed a pain reliever, but when Pete and Seth Talbott, the father and son owners of Relief Factor, asked me to endorse their 100 percent drug free product, I absolutely couldn’t say no,” Gorka explains in a testimonial ad in which he is identified as a doctor. “Of course, I only said yes because after years of my personal lower back pain, I am now pain free.”
The ex-Trump aide, who also hosts a talk show on Salem Radio Network, goes on to tell viewers that he is finally “out of pain and chances are you can be in less or no pain too by ordering the three week quick start … [for] only $19.95.”
Gorka did not respond to Mediaite’s request for comment about his work for the company and Relief Factor’s effects on his lower back pain.
Evidently, his real problem with Twitter was not that it lets people unleash their ill-considered words to the public instantaneously, but that some of those rude words were about him. We know this because he provided a total of two (2) examples to back up his thesis of Twitter as a corrosive force in society. The first was the oft-cited case of Justine Sacco, whose ill-advised tweet turned into a national frenzy that ended with her losing her job. The second was a random person @-ing Bret Stephens with something gross.
Despite promising in the column that he was leaving the site forever, Stephens would remain on Twitter for 26 more months.
There was a lot of windup to Bret Stephens ultimately just telling everyone that he’s taking his ball and going home, but those who stuck with it were rewarded with this (emphasis added)::lol
"After I took this job, one wag on Twitter wrote that he hoped I’d be “Danny Pearl-ed.” He must have found it funny. My 11-year-old son didn’t.”
Why was Bret Stephens making his son read rude tweets about Bret Stephens?
https://www.mediaite.com/online/suffer-from-debilitating-back-pain-so-does-seb-gorka-according-to-his-new-gig-as-spokesman-for-fish-oil-pills/QuoteFormer White House assistant Seb Gorka once suffered from debilitating lower back pain, but he is now miraculously “pain free” after taking a job hawking fish oil supplements — and you, too, can be rid of your bodily aches for a small subscription price of $19.95 plus shipping and handling.
Gorka, who was ousted by the Trump administration in 2017, lost his contributor gig at Fox News in March and has now moved onto the role of spokesperson for Relief Factor, a health and wellness company that sells an over-the-counter pain reliever with a main ingredient of fish oil.
“Sebastian Gorka here for Relief Factor. First of all, let me say I have never before endorsed a pain reliever, but when Pete and Seth Talbott, the father and son owners of Relief Factor, asked me to endorse their 100 percent drug free product, I absolutely couldn’t say no,” Gorka explains in a testimonial ad in which he is identified as a doctor. “Of course, I only said yes because after years of my personal lower back pain, I am now pain free.”
The ex-Trump aide, who also hosts a talk show on Salem Radio Network, goes on to tell viewers that he is finally “out of pain and chances are you can be in less or no pain too by ordering the three week quick start … [for] only $19.95.”
Gorka did not respond to Mediaite’s request for comment about his work for the company and Relief Factor’s effects on his lower back pain.
It's about the children apparently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03KDdlg84as
Contrapoints deleted her Twitter lol.Any reason why? Too much crap to deal with from armchair wankdads? Feeling the twitter grind of having to have hot takes? Knocking down that Twitter addiction?
Contrapoints deleted her Twitter lol.Any reason why? Too much crap to deal with from armchair wankdads? Feeling the twitter grind of having to have hot takes? Knocking down that Twitter addiction?
https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1169805921234694151Joe Rogan is the only media outlet that has a 2,5 hour interview with galaxy brain John Carmack about cars, the future, VR technology and the development of video games.spoiler (click to show/hide)https://twitter.com/CaviarEmptier/status/1169808985870000129
https://twitter.com/BullsCole/status/1169806714532614144
https://twitter.com/TytheGreat4/status/1169808502497452039
https://twitter.com/MistakenCMDR/status/1169810713222815744[close]
I'm 12 minutes in. It's pretty good so far
Edit:
Pastor and exorcism stuff is always so scummy. But what the hell is the Jim Baker Show? :-X
How can any honest Christian watch him in, and I'm kinda annoyed of the term, good faith?lmao. you new to this?
Man. Reading that guys wiki. How can any honest Christian watch him in, and I'm kinda annoyed of the term, good faith? By anybody's standards this man is repulsive.I mean its religion, how many religious figures have banged kids or been a gay homophobe or fucks people's wives on the side? Religion is about power and having a congregation willing to cover your ass for a lot of these fucks
I'm 12 minutes in. It's pretty good so far
Edit:
Pastor and exorcism stuff is always so scummy. But what the hell is the Jim Baker Show? :-X
He was a televangelist riding high on Prosperity Gospel drivel, got caught embezzling funds (shocking, I know), went to jail. Reinvented himself as an apocalyptic televangelist pushing survival crisis products to preppers. IIRC.
How can any honest Christian watch him in, and I'm kinda annoyed of the term, good faith?lmao. you new to this?
https://twitter.com/LitAnscombe/status/1170007426583683076god i hope this was deliberate
Further research revealed that Mr. Glynn represented himself as a Ph.D. psychologist to several academic institutions (academic fraud), and under those credentials he published over 40 articles in 15 different publication outlets in 2019 alone (journalistic fraud).omg it's even better
In 2016 Skeptic magazine published an article on “Guns and Games: The Relationship Between Violent Video Games and Gun Crimes in America” (Vol. 21, No. 1) by John Anthony Glynn, who identified himself as a Ph.D. psychologist and as a professor of psychology. After that initial publication he began emailing me regularly (120 times this past year), pitching stories on a variety of topics, including the evolutionary origins of humor, online gaming, cybercrime, masculinity, political correctness, social credits and privacy, dopamine, and suicide. In one email he clarified that he earned his Ph.D. in clinical psychology from the University of Hertfordshire in England. In another email he claimed “I am head of behavioral science at a medical school, XUSOM” (Xavier University School of Medicine in Aruba, an island off the coast of Venezuela), on the pretense of inviting me to speak there. More recently, he told me that he was applying for a professorship of psychology at the American University of Bahrain, Manama, for which he asked me to be a reference. On April 13, 2019 he told me that he got the job. On April 25, however, I received an email that should have set off my skeptical alarms more than it did, in which he asked to borrow money after, he said, Xavier Medical School “is a fraud, pure and simple; it lacks knowledgeable faculty, basic facilities” and he was never paid, but that he would pay me back upon his new professorship at the American University of Bahrain.:rofl
I declined to lend him money, but felt a twinge of empathy for him, so I kept the communication channels open. Perhaps I should have taken a cue from an August 20, 2019 email where he inquired if I had… “Any interest in another piece discussing the proliferation of experts who actually lack expertise?”:dead :dead :dead :dead
When he pitched the last article we published by him on suicide, Glynn assured me “As a psychologist, I would of course handle such a piece with care.”:lol
Two of my former graduate students, and now professors, who also conduct research for Skeptic, became curious about Mr. Glynn’s credentials. They began by simply checking to see if Glynn was a professor of psychology at the American University of Bahrain (archive). Since the university wasn’t even open (it is supposed to open this Fall), that didn’t look promising, and his prior claimed professorship as the head of behavioral science at the Xavier University School of Medicine in Aruba was, by his own admission, a bust.:stahp
I shared these documents with my associates and within an hour they sent a URL to a site (archive) that can produce that exact same diploma within minuteshttps://diplomamarket.com/how-university-of-hertfordshire-fake-certificate-can-keep-you-out-of-trouble/
I sent this letter to Glynn and asked “What is going on here?” He replied: “I am sorry, Michael. I never meant any harm. However, I’m no fraud.” I asked for further clarification: “Did you or did you not attend the University of Hertfordshire? Did you fake that diploma? Please give me the full story now of what is really happening.” Glynn then confessed:QuoteMichael, I deceived you. But please know that I never plagiarized any essay. Also, although I have taught at university, I have never, ever practiced as a psychologist. Never! And I never will. I worked in Korea, but at a language school, not university.
This was followed by a plea to keep the matter private.
Someone who would lie to this extent could be lying about not plagiarizing his work, so we ran the four Skeptic articles through the Turnitin plagiarism program. The results were negative; that is, he does not appear to have plagiarized the articles we published.
The most egregious of the trove was an article Mr. Glynn wrote for Standpoint (June 26, 2019) titled “Overrated: PhDs” (archive), in which, with (in hindsight) ironic mockery, he proclaims:you so fucking got got :lolQuoteIs it worth pursuing a PhD? Sometimes, yes. If you wish to carve out a meaningful career in academia, a PhD is a must. However, if academia is not for you, think very carefully before signing up. After years of toil working towards a PhD in clinical psychology, I have been lucky enough to find a secure lecturing job.
Is there a more boring and dispassionately passionate/worried dude than Eric Weinstein?I've bookmarked this for tomorrow while I play PoE:
American Thinker has resolved this by simply removing all references to his PhD.Honest, in a way.
SAD.
Dr. Shermer,:delicious
Had Mr. Glynn not lied from the start, would you publish his articles? If yes, then why remove them? Just put a note at the beginning of the articles that the author fabricated his academic credentials but the article passed editorial review.
If you want to punish Mr. Glynn, wouldn’t the shame be enough? Or you could sue him for fraud. Had Hitler published the theory of relativity, we would still teach it in universities but history would still judge him as a mass murderer.
So Breitbart has taken a leftist scalp.
They discovered tweets by Dr. Jamie R. Riley, University of Alabama’s assistant vice president and dean of students, that show [shocked face::gasp] that a leftwing university educrat holds doctrinaire woke leftwing beliefs.
In my opinion, people holding that kind of philosophy should not be allowed within a thousand or so miles of any educational institution because his callous, privileged bigotry is going to be evident any time he has to deal with a white student or a conflict between a black student and a student of any other race or when he has to interact with campus police, particularly when either the cop or the student is white and the other isn’t. That said, there is nothing terribly exotic about his point of view in progressive circles. The New York Times has hired opinion writers with much worse on their Twitter timeline .
But, for whatever reason, Breitbart hit the sweet spot here and within 24-hours an embedded educrat was able to devote more time to fine tuning his bigotry:QuoteJackson Fuentes, press secretary for the UA Student Government Association, confirmed at 4:15 p.m. that Riley is no longer working at the University.
Robbie Soave at Reason takes it from there:QuoteMany pundits on the right constantly inveigh against cancel culture: the drive to shame, punish, and ultimately destroy people for having said something trivially offensive at some point. Comedian Dave Chapelle torched cancel culture in his recent Netflix special, and conservatives applauded. The clip of Chapelle scornfully imitating cancellers has been all over right-leaning media for the last two weeks.
I very much agree that cancel culture is bad. (In fact, it’s one of the main themes of my book.) But as long as the right is perfectly willing to enforce its own version of political correctness, it is difficult to to believe that they really agree in principle that you shouldn’t do this kind of thing. If you only defend the cancelled when you agree with them, then you’re not actually against cancelling. You’re just protecting your tribe.
Conservatives, please condemn Breitbart for this hit job and demand the immediate reinstatement of James Riley.
Ummm, no. Not just no thanks, but no f***ing thanks at all.
In this case, you can even–without having a “first class mind”–easily hold, in the words of F. Scott Fitzgerald, these two opposing thoughts.
On the one hand, we should all deplore the “cancel culture.” It is corrosive of civil society and it forces you to limit social contacts to people who are pretty like-minded because you have to be attuned to the fact that there is no such thing as a progressive who will not burn you down if you say an unguarded word. On a personal level, I’ve slowly removed from my social circle anyone whose politics I distrust because the risk of being around them is simply too great.
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Soave presents us with a false dichotomy. We can either actively work against a outlet that is (mostly) an ally to try to get a rabid, frothing leftist bigot reinstated. Or we’re hypocrites. That’s simply bullsh**.
The real issue is more analogous to the standoff between the US (that would be us) and the USSR (that would be their fellow travelers who masquerade as Americans today). The US was beset throughout the Cold War with people who claimed we should engage in unilateral nuclear disarmament because that would show the we really had no ill intent. I mean, if we didn’t intend to use nukes on the USSR then we really didn’t need several thousand of them, did we? (Bizarrely enough, you hear the same cretins and their philosophical descendants making the same argument about why the DPRK should not be expected to give up its nukes.) Under Reagan we were scolded that if we build better nukes (the neutron bomb) and developed SDI then we would be hypocrites. It didn’t take a genius to see that a) building nukes and SDI was necessary for our survival and b) holding them did not compromise our principles.
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So long as this kind of thing is permitted and rewarded, then we on the right have a very binary choice to make. We either unilaterally disarm and follow the lead of the “muh principles” gang, or we fight fire with fire.
To make matters worse, we have people who don’t really have our best interests at heart lecturing us on how we’re violating our principles by defending ourselves.
Sorry, that dog ain’t going to hunt. We’re wise to that game. A couple of years ago a writer going by the nom de guerre Warden at Ace of Spades laid it out perfectly:QuoteThere’s a frustrating game that the left plays with conservatives. It’s an Alinksy tactic called, “Make them live up to their values.” Now, living up to one’s values isn’t a bad thing, but setting high standards ultimately means that you’ll sometimes fall short.
The left loves to exploit these shortcomings–every Christian who falls short of perfection is a hypocrite; the social values candidate you voted for just got arrested for drunk driving. Haha, everything you believe and advocate is now discredited.
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They’re the fucking bullies. The left, with their smears, their witch hunts, their slanders, their insults, their riots, their violence, and their weaponizing of the federal bureaucracy.
There aren’t any rules anymore because the left only applies them one way. And in doing so, they’ve left what once was a civil compact between the two parties in smoldering ruins.
I have no personal investment in Donald Trump. He is a tool to punish the left and roll back their ill-gotten gains, no more and no less. If he succeeds even partially in those two things, then I’ll consider his election a win.
Further, I no longer have any investment in any particular political values, save one: The rules created by the left will be applied to the left as equally and punitively as they have applied them to the right. And when they beg for mercy, I’ll begin to reconsider. Or maybe not. Because fuck these people.
This new philosophy has freed me of more emotional angst that I can describe. Literally nothing the left says or does matters to me anymore. I don’t care about their tantrums. I don’t care about their accusations. I don’t care if they say Trump is lying. I don’t care if Trump is lying.
They created this Frankenstein. They own it. I am free of all obligation. I will never play defense again. I will attack, attack, attack, attack using their own tactics against them until they learn their lesson.
What I will not do is let them play my values against me ever again. I don’t need to prove that I’m better than them. I already know it.
So no, we’re not going to criticize Breitbart on this. No, we’re not going to demand that this Riley character be reinstated. No, we’re not going to defend figures on the left from suffering the same consequences anyone on the right would suffer under similar circumstances. Yes, we are going to do whatever we can to burn down anyone on the left who looks even vaguely vulnerable. And when y’all get tired of this tit-for-tat bullsh**, let us know and we can talk about next steps, but for right now it is strictly #NewRules, baby.
riderdan • 6 hours ago • edited
I'm very fond of the New Effing Rules, Baby! line.
If we were fighting against people with any moral or ethical standards beyond their monomaniacal drive towards a totalitarian state, I might be willing to cut them some slack. But we all know what every leftist wants: a country that sends conservatives to reeducation camps or literally to the ovens. This is no exaggeration, as those who are no longer our countrymen prove on an almost daily basis with their actual, physical violence.
You don't negotiate with cancer.
gbenton • 3 hours ago • edited
The difference these halfwits don't understand is the left is not legitmate any longer as a political entity in this country. They want to destroy this country and promote Marxism which is completely antithetical to our Constitution. The only reason they still exist as a party is because of corruption in the media and brainwashing of our kids through schools and the culture war.
The 'right' stands for the Constitution, therefore America. The left is the enemy, therefore, whatever they stand for is wrong for America. So in this case, Breitbart claimed a scalp by exposing the enemy and he was forced out.
That's NOT cancel culture. When the left cancels someone, it's for reasons that are only of important to the left's sick ideology. This assclown lost his job because he's a hateful bigot and part of the problem. That's an undeniably good thing (unless you're a moron Never Trumper or libertarian, who I'm convinced basically are sleeper cells for the Marxists as all their preferred policies and actions all do one thing: help the left).
The proper stance toward the left is WAR. Their party must be destroyed as they want us dead or enslaved. Far as I'm concerned, if jobs and elections is all they lose, they should consider themselves lucky after what they collectively have done (and want to do).
NormWilson • 2 hours ago
Many, if not most, of you are too young to remember.
We lost Korea, we lost Vietnam, we lost and are still losing in Iraq and Afghanistan for one reason and one reason only, we fought by our rules and our opponents had no rules, I'm a Viet nam era vet and I will not lose for that reason again.
Because I'm sensing a trend...The Tweet at the end blindsided me. :dead
https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2019/09/06/breitbart-claims-progressive-scalp-reason-predictably-draws-wrongest-possible-conclusion/
I literally can't even imagine how fucking dull this must be.Starts off amazing. From Fridman listing Joe Rogan as a public intellectual, to Weinstein claiming Tom Lehrer records inoculate children against "later malware". High hopes for this one. :lol
Is there a more boring and dispassionately passionate/worried dude than Eric Weinstein?I've bookmarked this for tomorrow while I play PoE:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wq9x2QcZN0
So I'm definitely more boring.
I literally can't even imagine how fucking dull this must be.
surprised Momo didn't post the 1.5 hour Pakman interview with Sam Harris
nah, Pakman basically let Harris ramble on unchallenged on all his usual straw men. It's a waste.
why would i post that lol
cliffs notes:nah, Pakman basically let Harris ramble on unchallenged on all his usual straw men. It's a waste.
goddamn it
he did a great job with that idiot tim pool, so this is pretty disappointing
If I did like both (I dont) then why would I post in the political mockery thread?why would i post that lol
cause you said you liked Pakman and I guessed maybe you like Harris
If I did like both (I dont) then why would I post in the political mockery thread?why would i post that lol
cause you said you liked Pakman and I guessed maybe you like Harris
your face is dumb stuffIf I did like both (I dont) then why would I post in the political mockery thread?why would i post that lol
cause you said you liked Pakman and I guessed maybe you like Harris
idk you post dumb stuff sometimes
I don't understand. But then I'm a petty loser (and a Monster drinking Gamer) and he is a Harvard man.
https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1170862866468986880
this guy sure does tweet a lot
Galaxy :brain(https://i.imgur.com/QovaCbM.jpg)
:holeup
https://twitter.com/prageru/status/1170487160216047616
https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1171095918986137600A group I don't count myself a part of doesn't (redundantly) shun me for questioning their orthodoxy, because they probably think me a heathen already, but a group I do count myself a part of... Hold on a minute!
:lol
Whites on the Left Coast and in New England are race traitors.
Stefan, could you maybe just light a blunt, watch some Thursday night football and shut the fuck up for a moment?No, he has to defend mankind, not engage in bread and circuses as civilization collapses!
Stefan, could you maybe just light a blunt, watch some Thursday night football and shut the fuck up for a moment?No, he has to defend mankind, not engage in bread and circuses as civilization collapses!
Well it's not quite deterministic, the core idea of marxist social change is that the masses of classes make history through revolution and/or mass action, by seizing ownership of the means of production, and that your class and ideology is determined by your relation to those means of production. basically, people have to make it happen through action. marxism's "prescriptive" idea is to create a world sans class, and the only way to do that is for the masses to seize the means and develop them past the necessity for class society. If people don't do anything, then DotB will just continue indefinitely. i think in some of marx you can see attempts to describe capitalism of depriving humans of their species essence (gattungswesen) and i suppose this could be considered a moral argument of some sort. but i can't think of much else.
but i dont know if you're hitting me with sarcasm because i can't read good. im a dumb dumb
To be honest I don't really know whether we have a way of objectively knowing whether history is driven by hegelian synthetic contradiction explosionsLuckily Marxism is a science and you can just test it with regression analysis
if anyone bothered to test things like socially necessary labor time and rates of profit (factoring in imperialism) with lv99 sergey brin fuck you money bayesian analysis that would be cool. i dont think anyone gives a fuck though. except dorks on the interbutts
Luckily Marxism is a science and you can just test it with regression analysisYou understand nothing about science. It is true because it was revealed by the forces of history. :bolo
what im saying is if you write something bad you dont want published thendon't become famous and just fade into history forever obscure :success
https://twitter.com/getfiscal/status/1170294392042795008NO EXCUSES ANYMORE:
who's this guy? i've seen his face before but i cant place itStefan, could you maybe just light a blunt, watch some Thursday night football and shut the fuck up for a moment?No, he has to defend mankind, not engage in bread and circuses as civilization collapses!
(https://i.imgflip.com/33rtry.jpg)
I like that he can't even decide if he wants to be a fascist or a libertarian nfuckhe wants to eliminate the government, except for the part that ethnically cleanses all the non-whites and forces the women into modesty
basically, people have to make it happen through action. marxism's "prescriptive" idea is to create a world sans class, and the only way to do that is for the masses to seize the means and develop them past the necessity for class society. If people don't do anything, then DotB will just continue indefinitely.but the question’s about whether the people’s doing something is governed by inexorable covering laws something like the ones in the natural sciences, or whether it’s contingent and morally motivated. I don’t see how there’s any space here for a deterministicish approach, you either think the one or the other. If you want genuinely prescriptive marxism, then you need to really deflate your philosophy of history.
In August 2019, the venue for our MindsIRL conference, “Ending Racism, Violence and Authoritarianism” unlawfully cancelled our contract just 12 days prior to the event. This cancellation led to tens of thousands in additional overhead costs, thousands of dollars in lost revenue, damage to our reputation and a loss of countless hours to find a new venue that could accommodate our nearly 500 guests.
Events that bring differing minds together for good-faith discussions are needed to help depolarize our culture. Thuggary, intimidation and venue cancellations have only strengthened our commitment to provide more for our audience.
We are seeking legal counsel to push back on this injustice and ensure our events can continue into the future. Our goal is to raise $250,000 from our community to support the cause. Contributions of any amount are greatly appreciated. Initially the contract was signed by Mythinformed, subsequently we entered into a partnership with Minds.com and all parties agreed to operate under the original contract.
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In August 2019, the Broadway Theatre in Pitman, New Jersey was supposed to be the location for a one-day conference aimed at “Ending Racism, Violence and Authoritarianism.” Sponsored by Minds, an emerging social networking site and organized by the volunteer-run nonprofit organization Mythinformed, the conference was to feature good-faith, socio-political discussions between people of wide-ranging perspectives. Headlining the event was Daryl Davis, a deradicalization expert who has personally deradicalized more than 200 KKK members by forging a connection through dialogue.
Despite the positive mission of the conference, a group of protesters calling themselves NoHateNJ (consisting of Copper River Indivisible, Hub City Antifa and South Jersey DSA), along with other “anti-facist activists,” began a campaign of social media dissension with the aim of shutting down the event. The group opposed the conference and encouraged followers to make contact with the Broadway Theatre in Pitman, encouraging them to shut down the event.
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who's this guy? i've seen his face before but i cant place it
EDIT: never mind i see his name is in the picture, i dont know her.
I think there's prescriptive intent inside Marx and Engels(wink wink nudge nudge. Y'all like Fourier? Now listen to this), but they spend the vast majority of their time on description.definitely. like I said above, both strains are in their writing. And we might want to fault them here for ambiguity or indeterminacy. Or not, idk.
I thought we were arguing about whether it's morally justified or correct in a wrong/right sense based on molyneux tweet.yeah, this is what I mean by morally motivated. Both in the sense that i) the proletariat themselves have a conception of right/wrong and in the sense that ii) we, from our disengaged position, can say it’s right/wrong or better/worse than something else. Like, it’s a state of affairs which is susceptible of making value judgments of, I guess. The nomothetic/scientific marxism can maintain i) by incorporating people’s moral motivation as a part of the model, but can’t claim ii). Prescriptive marxism also maintains ii), and this makes it commensurable with rival political theories of justice, like liberalism, or whatever. Whereas it’s nonsensical to say that scientific marxism ‘competes’ with any ethical or political theory.
how is someone supposed to exactly quantify class struggle like its a football game in action?(https://i.imgur.com/wGKhanB.png)
yeah, this is what I mean by morally motivated. Both in the sense that i) the proletariat themselves have a conception of right/wrong and in the sense that ii) we, from our disengaged position, can say it’s right/wrong or better/worse than something else. Like, it’s a state of affairs which is susceptible of making value judgments of, I guess. The nomothetic/scientific marxism can maintain i) by incorporating people’s moral motivation as a part of the model, but can’t claim ii). Prescriptive marxism also maintains ii), and this makes it commensurable with rival political theories of justice, like liberalism, or whatever. Whereas it’s nonsensical to say that scientific marxism ‘competes’ with any ethical or political theory.To quote NBC's The Good Place, "This is exactly why everyone hates moral philosophers."
SEBASTIAN GORKA (HOST): California, New Mexico, Hawaii, Texas and Nevada now have majority-minority populations, and here we go with the most important one -- percentage of congressional districts with foreign-born populations above the national average, which went Democrat.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8x8bDNslH4
Percentage of congressional districts with foreign-born populations above the national average, that went Democrat -- 90 percent. Isn't that what it's about?
Isn't that why the Democrats don't want to have, for example, voter I.D.? To bump that number up to 100?
MICHELLE MALKIN: It's what it's all about, and you're not allowed to say it.
In fact, you have many of these Soros-subsidized or Soros-allied organizations that will immediately attack anyone who points to those numbers as somehow racist or xenophobic, or trafficking in what they call a conspiracy theory.
Now, the irony of it is that you have all of these left-wing academics, and many of these open-borders inc propagandists that will use the same numbers -- and if they're in their own comfortable chambers, will cheerlead and beat their chests about it --
GORKA: Celebrate it, right?
MALKIN: And they call it "demographic conquest."
GORKA: And this is what Clinton actually said in a speech to bankers, that you can now read, "my dream" -- this is the woman who was going to be president -- "my dream is a borderless hemisphere," if there are no borders from Canada to South America, there is no America. Am I right?
MALKIN: That's exactly right. That's what it's all about, and it needs to be spelled out.
If there's a moral hook or sales point in Marxism, I don't think it's in the class portion. I think it's:In the USSR work is a duty and a matter of honor for every able-bodied citizen, in accordance with the principle: “He who does not work, neither shall he eat.”"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs".
The Queen Is Back! YAAAAAASSSS! The Wank Mom!
To quote NBC's The Good Place, "This is exactly why everyone hates moral philosophers."(http://i.imgur.com/fkwzb0C.jpg)
To quote NBC's The Good Place, "This is exactly why everyone hates moral philosophers."(http://i.imgur.com/fkwzb0C.jpg)
https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/12/20862696/pewdiepie-adl-donation-backlash-100-million-subscribers
Is this guy wearing an Iron Cross on his shoulder? :roflspoiler (click to show/hide)(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/0yXjx8e0k1TxF-JRTFWInUTV1J4=/0x0:712x361/1220x813/filters:focal(262x77:374x189):format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/65232822/Screen_Shot_2019_09_11_at_1.20.21_AM.0.png)[close]
Who the fuck willingly listens to Ben Shapiro with his chipmunk voice and spergy conservative talking points?
His fellow virgin midgets.
Who the fuck willingly listens to Ben Shapiro with his chipmunk voice and spergy conservative talking points?
Who the fuck willingly listens to Ben Shapiro with his chipmunk voice and spergy conservative talking points?
His fellow virgin midgets.
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wait his wife was diagnosed with a terminal illness and is now ok?
but look at that supply
#SocialistShortagesDebunked
To think that Dinesh has a presidential pardon and is pretty much untouchable now :dogePresidential pardons don't work like diplomatic immunity in Lethal Weapon 2.
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:bedroomeyes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tivwABf1luU:bow2 :bow2
https://twitter.com/stephenglickman/status/1176060073140817921holy fucking shit :dead
:jeb
https://twitter.com/jmrphy/status/1176703990056267777
https://twitter.com/jmrphy/status/1176703990056267777look I mean this is how we decide if the royal no longer needs their regent so it makes complete sense to apply the standard consistently across the board
the profile blurb is a nice topper
out of the loop, what's a greta thunderberg
https://twitter.com/DavidDTSS/status/1177560935449464832
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_qNp_w52Q0
Didn't we have the 13 year old alt right Youtuber a few months nths back already ?
:yeshrug
I need autistic feminism because...
(https://i.redd.it/fwyaeka22ap31.jpg)
https://twitter.com/marclamonthill/status/1178806316153917445
does antifa count as a wank dad cause that video of them screaming at an old lady crossing the road is slaying me :lol
According to Mikhaila, he just had an allergic reaction to the medicine and he is now doing fine. He's out of the hospital and we'll likely get an update from JBP himself soon.We tarnished dads reputation. Woops.
Pastor Robert Jeffress praised President Trump in an interview as the “most pro-religious liberty” president the country has ever had while also suggesting that Democrats might worship “the pagan god of the Old Testament Moloch,” who, he added, “allowed for child sacrifice.”
I agree that wealth taxes are complicated, you should just expropriate the entire class in one historic act instead.(https://i.imgur.com/p8UFgDj.jpg)
For the briefest moment, the triumph of the Third Estate :aah
Can we give all the cities in the US french names and make them spend an absurd amount of time debating bread?https://store.steampowered.com/app/1098190/VersaillesVR__the_Palace_is_yours/
Can we give all the cities in the US french names and make them spend an absurd amount of time debating bread?
https://twitter.com/LydiaBurrell/status/1180597617664774147bus boy for five years -> YouTube business owner
Is it me or has this shit lost the traction it had just a year ago? Feels like I would hear randos bringing up all the time but now the audience seems to have moved on and all that's left are the hardcore dickriders.You can only say the same empty shit for so long. The fuel is spent.
New York Times opinion columnist and man who thinks it’s deeply important to engage in open debate Bret Stephens has backed out of an upcoming scheduled event at George Washington University, where he was set to discuss civil discourse online with professor Dave Karpf. The discussion would have put a bow on a highly public back-and-forth Stephens instigated a month and a half ago, but at the last minute, Stephens insisted that the event be closed to the public. When Karpf disagreed, Stephens pulled out entirely.
At the time, Stephens told the Washington Post, “I’ve accepted [the invitation], and we will find a date in the fall.” Stephens and Karpf did indeed find a date in the fall, agreeing in September that the event would take place at GWU on Oct. 28. But with those plans in place, a mere two days before invitations were supposed to go out, Karpf says, Stephens suddenly raised a number of concerns with the event’s organizers.
Karpf said that he was only able to speak with me about Stephens’ main concern and the apparent deal-breaker. “The thing that I can share is that he had decided that he was only willing to come if we made it not a public event,” Karpf told me over the phone. “Students could be in the room, but he didn’t want to allow this story to continue anymore. They talked with him, and what it came down to was, the only way he’d do the event is if the public wasn’t allowed to see it. I said, ‘I think that’s really unreasonable.’ They came back to him and said, ‘Karpf thinks that’s unreasonable.’ And he said, ‘OK, we’re not doing it.’ ”
When I reached out to Stephens for comment, he pointed me to the director of GWU’s School of Media and Public Affairs, writing over email, “Frank Sesno, copied on this note, can provide you with accurate information.” Sesno then followed up, writing, “We were unable to come to terms on the format of the event, which is why it is not taking place. There was a series of conversations and we never publicly announced the event because, as I say, we could not come to mutually acceptable terms on the format.”
Eric Weinstein, Sam Harris also come to mind. I looked it up and apparently Dave Rubin is a member... lol. Not a deep bench.Add Christina Hoff Sommers, Eric's brother Brent, and Joe Rogan. They're the canonical set, I think.
https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1182694698659569664 (https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1182694698659569664)
After devolving into a fit of muttering about how cool he was in 2016, Peterson began shakin uncontrollably, then broke down crying in front of his interviewer.
As the interviewer tried consoling Peterson about how great his accomplishments were, Peterson began crying even harder, then began describing how important of a person he is because he reminded a generation of buckos to regularly rinse their phalluses with water and soap.
@ 14:45 he begins breaking down as he describes the relentless bullying he receives on twitter, saying he can't even sign into his account any longer.
Between 24:00 and 27:00 his eyes overflow with tears and he begins sobbing as he explains
Guys like Steven Crowder and Tim Pool are blatantly dumb as shit,
https://youtu.be/HxYVbC283uM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzOn9M2KucwThat's from /pol/? Huh. Is he not radical enough for them? edit: superficial survey indicates that, yes, yes he is too tame for them; possibly a plant of ze jooce🐙QuoteAfter devolving into a fit of muttering about how cool he was in 2016, Peterson began shakin uncontrollably, then broke down crying in front of his interviewer.
As the interviewer tried consoling Peterson about how great his accomplishments were, Peterson began crying even harder, then began describing how important of a person he is because he reminded a generation of buckos to regularly rinse their phalluses with water and soap.
@ 14:45 he begins breaking down as he describes the relentless bullying he receives on twitter, saying he can't even sign into his account any longer.
Between 24:00 and 27:00 his eyes overflow with tears and he begins sobbing as he explains
I was going to say, I have anxiety issues and I have broken down - not quite like this in public but close. The dude is a fraud but I feel bad watching that.same, i stopped watching after a point. curious how this'll impact his work though
Guys like Steven Crowder and Tim Pool are blatantly dumb as shit,
https://youtu.be/HxYVbC283uM
I made it 10 seconds before stopping.
https://twitter.com/johnsolomonbain/status/1184693532222775296
This thread needs more statue avatar posts. Molyneux is sort of in that category (a fascist who borrows heavily from feudalism and antiquity) but he doesn't take it to the extreme like some of these @ClassicalMan guys do :lawd
11. All had lice
12. All had crabs
13. All had giant stinky bushes
14. All had dirty assholes
15. All died of old age in their 30s.But those vacations...
Guys like Steven Crowder and Tim Pool are blatantly dumb as shit,
https://youtu.be/HxYVbC283uM
I made it 10 seconds before stopping.
15. All died of old age in their 30s.But those vacations...
do fashies care about GMO stuff?Search terms: Rudolf Steiner, Anthroposophy, and Waldorf schools.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzOn9M2KucwQuoteAfter devolving into a fit of muttering about how cool he was in 2016, Peterson began shakin uncontrollably, then broke down crying in front of his interviewer.
As the interviewer tried consoling Peterson about how great his accomplishments were, Peterson began crying even harder, then began describing how important of a person he is because he reminded a generation of buckos to regularly rinse their phalluses with water and soap.
@ 14:45 he begins breaking down as he describes the relentless bullying he receives on twitter, saying he can't even sign into his account any longer.
Between 24:00 and 27:00 his eyes overflow with tears and he begins sobbing as he explains
https://twitter.com/Politicon/status/1184148256999301120
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzOn9M2KucwQuoteAfter devolving into a fit of muttering about how cool he was in 2016, Peterson began shakin uncontrollably, then broke down crying in front of his interviewer.
As the interviewer tried consoling Peterson about how great his accomplishments were, Peterson began crying even harder, then began describing how important of a person he is because he reminded a generation of buckos to regularly rinse their phalluses with water and soap.
@ 14:45 he begins breaking down as he describes the relentless bullying he receives on twitter, saying he can't even sign into his account any longer.
Between 24:00 and 27:00 his eyes overflow with tears and he begins sobbing as he explains
lol this rules
Meanwhile, in Vegas:
http://mobile.twitter.com/48john/status/1185622046409154566Was
also, have I told you guys how much I fucking hate trad caths?how come?
https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1183886807303442433"It was a wild time" was Emir Kusturica's excuse for
i'm sure y'all will be shocked to find out that jp's daughter is divorcing her husband, and apparently leaving their child with him
which of the 12 rules is thatRule 5 Do not let your children do anything that makes you dislike them
YouTube banned Sebastian Gorka from its platform on Monday, apparently because the former Trump White House adviser refused to stop playing songs from pop rock band Imagine Dragons on episodes of his radio show that were later uploaded to the site.
Gorka, a notoriously combative Trump ally, has regularly played Imagine Dragons songs on his radio show, “America First.” That’s put him at odds with the band’s lead singer, Dan Reynolds, who has been calling on Gorka to stop using the band’s songs on his show since August.
“Please stop playing imagine dragons on your show @SebGorka,” Reynolds tweeted on August 23.
Gorka kept playing the band’s song “Radioactive,” though, prompting Reynolds to say on Oct. 24 that Universal Music Publishing Group had attempted to block Gorka from uploading videos with the song to the site.
Now Gorka’s love of Imagine Dragons appears to have cost him his YouTube account. Gorka’s channel was deleted from YouTube on Monday afternoon, with a YouTube spokesperson confirming to The Daily Beast that Gorka’s channel “was terminated due to multiple copyright strikes.”https://twitter.com/SebGorka/status/1191501403933556736
The YouTube spokesperson declined to say what song had prompted the copyright takedown notices. But the complaints were filed by Universal Music Publishing Group—the same company Reynolds had said was attempting to stop Gorka from uploading the song.
Gorka, who didn’t respond to requests for comment, didn’t appear to realize on Monday afternoon that his channel had been deleted. After one Twitter user complained that Gorka’s links were going to his now-deleted channel, Gorka mocked the poster, tweeting “you really should try harder” and ending the message with a laughing-crying emoji.
After conducting an extensive review, PayPal has made the decision to discontinue our business relationship with Stefan Molyneux.
iirc Pool still pretends to be on the left while Rubin has dropped the act completely.
curly, were you really not aware of tim pool?
dude is basically a smarter version of david rubin
*Shapiro in a tweet being a ding dong*
Are there really people that like...actively enjoy listening to Ben Shapiro and give him money for shit?(https://i.imgur.com/3hxxZl3.jpg)
Is that a person?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_City_mosque_shooting
https://preview.redd.it/66783ef9rny31.jpg?width=707&auto=webp&s=72710d08740674863ec96b4741b7e969a3c49f42
imagine caring about that :lol
And then... WESTERN CIVILIZATION.Hell yeah
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/694174637882671104
o-okay
https://twitter.com/SheilaGunnReid/status/1198008535910510592
:dead
https://twitter.com/shoe0nhead/status/1198524742313091073
The JRE
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/312bd012b444bb184f96591ba862425f/tumblr_p2cr4lkPnv1ugckyro1_500.jpg)
(https://preview.redd.it/vsggowq0h3141.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=d717dc5b8bd7a271b8373c80892e1d0c46c8291d)
(https://preview.redd.it/vsggowq0h3141.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=d717dc5b8bd7a271b8373c80892e1d0c46c8291d)
Can you explain this to me. Is this referring to something specific?
Like I need a breakdown of every 6 word chunk here
OK, one more:whatever this guy is trying isnt working for me, I actually watch her videos so I know it's bullshit :dayum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qC9DxwWYBM
whatever this guy is trying isnt working for me, I actually watch her videos so I know it's bullshit :dayumThat's why is posted that one. I don't know what to think of him. He makes some good points in the serious videos, but he's strangely intense about everything. It's like his channel is an extension of therapy for him.
(https://preview.redd.it/vsggowq0h3141.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=d717dc5b8bd7a271b8373c80892e1d0c46c8291d)
Can you explain this to me. Is this referring to something specific?
Like I need a breakdown of every 6 word chunk here
https://twitter.com/WIRED/status/1201002747585343493https://twitter.com/patrickklepek/status/1201246965499084806 (https://twitter.com/patrickklepek/status/1201246965499084806)
The very last person on earth that should complain about bad faith arguments and waste of time articles.https://twitter.com/WIRED/status/1201002747585343493https://twitter.com/patrickklepek/status/1201246965499084806 (https://twitter.com/patrickklepek/status/1201246965499084806)
:exxy :rethread :gamergate
https://twitter.com/SophNar0747/status/1201435418480332805 (https://twitter.com/SophNar0747/status/1201435418480332805)
:aah :aah :aah
Jordan Peterson's alternative to Patreon is apparently up in a closed beta.lmao at David Pakman up on it. Dude's loves to make some money.
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/g7avgncrpswvs5fyfv7t.png)
Bjorn Lomborg! Congrats benji, your boy made it.
damn pakman is an opportunistsurprised he's on there, but then again I'm also not. He's not very cancel culturey and generally will mix with people he disagrees with.
his foreign policy takes a garbage, he belongs there :pacspitlmao, yeah he has some dumbass takes, but so does everyone. I still like him overall
I like how bluemax's sig sums up that Wired tweet. "NO"
Jordan Peterson's alternative to Patreon is apparently up in a closed beta.
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Bjorn Lomborg! Congrats benji, your boy made it.
Locals allows me to connect directly with my supporters without big tech algorithms getting in the way. The day of giant platforms is over. Small is the new big, and that starts by creating your own community and finding meaningful connections with Locals.
Dave Rubin
Own Your Audience
Passionate fans want to support you. Strengthen your relationship with them by removing the middleman and by creating a community that brings your brand and your business to the next level
Set Your Own Rules
YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter have inconsistent and unfair moderation. You set the rules in your Local.
Build your network
Grow your community by connecting with other creators you want to be associated with. There’s power in numbers.
Patrick Chapman
6 hours ago (edited)
Talk about waffling... Can you at least describe the content you are willing to allow on your platform. What will be the remit for admittance. How much and how it works. Also how will you deal with payment processors that insist on you banning a creator. I assume you're not a bank.
The endless waffle burgers of age old Sargon and Andy Ngo stories are not what interests people. Get to the point, even if you have to have one of your techs do it instead. I literally know no more than I did before about this platform.
Dave Rubin, the outspoken podcaster and YouTuber has admitted in a dialogue with Dr John Lennox that he has changed his mind about God and has begun to rediscover his spiritual roots. Rubin, who was raised in a culturally Jewish background, but has described himself as an atheist, now has over 1 million subscribers on YouTube. He said “I have no problem with Jesus – I like the guy. I like the message of Jesus - I love these ideas. I think that if my life becomes a continuing conversation about these things, I can incorporate the best parts of that to be a better person.”
Filmed in front of 1,000 people at Calvary Chapel, Costa Mesa in California the debate is the latest episode to be released as part of The Big Conversation debate series and also featured Oxford Professor of Mathematics, Dr John Lennox. Rubin’s comments may come as a surprise to his many social media followers who have heard him state that he was an atheist.
Let's go scrubs! Long ass vidPretty good, if at times too meticulous (d'uh, it's more than two hours long). He didn't go overboard until he examined the studies cited in the book. That provides valuable insight into the rotten foundations, sure, but he didn't need to go through that many in such detail. Especially after he shows that Murray is still, decades on, waiting on actual evidence for their thesis. Human intelligence will crater any year now. Just you wait!
https://youtu.be/UBc7qBS1Ujo
YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter have inconsistent and unfair moderation.
You set the rules in your Local.
Human intelligence will crater any year now. Just you wait!
Human intelligence will crater any year now. Just you wait!
Ireland used to be a favorite talking point for genetic determinism: between several generations of heavy emigration and priests not being allowed to reproduce, all the best genes were supposedly being removed from the pool, and that's why the country was poor. Then this (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_Tiger) happened. They don't bring up Ireland so much these days.spoiler (click to show/hide)Pretty good argument that Ireland's boom came from corporate tax arbitrage, but once you accept that you've implicitly admitted that a nation's GDP per capita isn't a function of its population's mean skull volume.[close]
https://twitter.com/WattersWorld/status/120340380611069952102:43 - Parking lot - Pentagon
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1204194224545173504sex predator confirmed
press F for Taylor Swift's expired egg sack
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1204194224545173504sex predator confirmed
press F for Taylor Swift's expired egg sack
sex predator confirmedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp65LWeGkQM
"she'll be a fun mom" sent a chill down my spine
lol this is his twitter header
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press F for Taylor Swift's expired egg sack
Sexually aroused by Taylor Swift having a good sleep schedule and becoming a tradmomhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oFYRXZpMqw
Which is funny cause in the vid you posted about spanking he talks about 6 degrees of separation. In response to some dude that left his baby daughter and now wants to reconnect with her Stephen goes "well you know six degrees of separation... Maybe she will hear this... What message would you like to tell her"
Well mate i would guess if Chrissy freakin Teigen has posted on your tweet it has a pretty good chance of reaching Taylor Swift one way or another.
on the upside the institute both pissed him off with a negative review of his book and they still have it for free on their wiki:
https://mises.org/library/molyneux-problem
https://mises.org/library/mr-molyneux-responds
https://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Book:Universally_Preferable_Behaviour
that foreword :dead
QuoteIt would be cruel to arouse false expectations, so I had better say at once that Molyneux does not succeed in his noble goal. He fails, and fails miserably. His arguments are often preposterously bad.
:whoo
the ending must have really ground his gears:QuoteBecause of his facile intelligence, he thinks that he has a talent for philosophical argument and need not undertake the hard labor of learning how such arguments are constructed. Unfortunately for him and his book, he is mistaken.
apropos of the review, this made the rounds earlier: https://www.bitchute.com/video/5PF7YF66APmE/
He posted it to his channel, got shit on, took it down, someone put it back up
https://twitter.com/JohnnyHeatWave/status/1083109759631409152
yeah, but in the same way theres a lineage between paul tillich and theodor adornoTIL that there is a lineage from Jürgen Habermas to Stefan Molyneux. :stahp
Hahahahahaha
https://twitter.com/neeratanden/status/1203663963197718530
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTOQGvXbZY8
Police officers responded to a call on Friday when Adam Carolla and Dennis Prager’s free speech film, "No Safe Spaces," was allegedly interrupted by two masked men who some customers felt were looking to intimidate moviegoers.
The filmmakers are chalking up the incident to evidence as to why the movie is important in the first place.
The La Habra, California police department sent officers to the local Regal Theater after receiving a call that two male subjects who entered the movie theater for the 1:10 p.m. showing had covered their faces with bandanas.
“After all of the previews and ads were over and the movie was just starting, two thugs sporting hoodies, masks, sunglasses and carrying huge duffel bags ran, not walked, up the aisle and sat at the back of the theater right behind us. They looked like bank robbers, home invasion criminals… they were trying to act scary,” a moviegoer named Vanessa, who asked for her last name not be used, told Fox News.
“As you can imagine, I was nervous that they were planning something even more nefarious than just visual intimidation,” Vanessa said.
Vanessa and other moviegoers complained to the theater and called the police. She said she was issued a refund and left.
“When the manager went in to check on them they had removed all intimidating items. They knew what they were doing,” Vanessa said. “Potential criminals got to stay while we had to leave because we were afraid they might do something violent. My son did not want to leave because he didn't want them to succeed in their plan of intimidation and free speech suppression. But I told him a movie was not worth our lives in case they had weapons or something.”
The La Habra police department confirmed to Fox News that they arrived on the scene after receiving a call about two men interrupting the film, but said no incident report was made. It’s unclear if the alleged troublemakers were trying to purposely disrupt the pro-free speech film for political reasons.
“They came full sprint to the top of the theater with bandanas on their face,” another attendee, Scott Stroud, confirmed to Fox News.
Stroud said that he pressured management to call the police, and they eventually obliged after initially downplaying the situation and assuring that the backpacks of the men were searched. Stroud said he explained the subject matter of the movie to theater workers in an effort to be taken seriously.
Stroud said police told him theater management didn’t think it was necessary to investigate further, but he disagrees.
“Common sense says you would want to question them,” Stroud said.
The La Habra police department declined to say why a report wasn’t filed.
"This story is quite angering, and an example of what is happening increasingly in America. I urge Americans to be courageous. It took courage for us to make this movie and now, apparently, it's going to take courage for Americans to watch it,” the film's co-star Dennis Prager told Fox News. “America is the safe space in which we are supposed to be free to hear different ideas, including the ideas in this film, without fear of reprisal, and certainly without fear of physical harm.“
The documentary, which Prager has called a "wake-up call" to the American people, focuses on free speech being restricted to satisfy political agendas.
“If I know anything about my fellow Americans, it is that we are not easily frightened by thugs. I urge America to reject the fear that these incidents are designed to engender; be courageous, and go see our movie in a theater. This incident is exactly why this movie is so important," Prager said.
As with others who disrupt events, they should be sued for damages, both as a civil rights violation and as a simple tort inflicting financial losses. Being sued is unpleasant, tedious, expensive, and gives you a higher profile than masked thugs generally want. And it’s an easy winner.
On the other hand, I suppose we should just thank them for their Trump2020 get-out-the-vote work.
Not that I want to see anything terrible happen, but it’d be just a shame – a shame – if one of those wannabe thugs gave someone just enough reasonable fear of death or great bodily harm to get his face legitimately blown into the next county.
No, I said a shame. We just do not want this to happen.
I’m 6’2″, 250-260 lbs. My voice has raised in pitch over the decades. I used to have a nice deep bass voice, but am now more of a middle to high baritone.
That said, I probably would have done the exact same thing. Gotten up, sat right next to them, and said loudly “Hey guys! This ought to be an interesting movie, doncha think? However, It’ll be hard for me to pay attention to the movie with you two wonderful fellas sitting next to me acting AWFULLY suspicious. I’m sure the other men in this theater agree, right folks?”
Bill I am a similar build. Its awesome being able to intimidate little antifa giant dads without raising a fist. Which is what I 100% bet they were. Also clearly the massive irony of them doing this is lost on them since they probably dont have the IQ to understand it.:usacry but also :american
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTOQGvXbZY8QuotePolice officers responded to a call on Friday when Adam Carolla and Dennis Prager’s free speech film, "No Safe Spaces," was allegedly interrupted by two masked men who some customers felt were looking to intimidate moviegoers.
The filmmakers are chalking up the incident to evidence as to why the movie is important in the first place.
The La Habra, California police department sent officers to the local Regal Theater after receiving a call that two male subjects who entered the movie theater for the 1:10 p.m. showing had covered their faces with bandanas.
“After all of the previews and ads were over and the movie was just starting, two thugs sporting hoodies, masks, sunglasses and carrying huge duffel bags ran, not walked, up the aisle and sat at the back of the theater right behind us. They looked like bank robbers, home invasion criminals… they were trying to act scary,” a moviegoer named Vanessa, who asked for her last name not be used, told Fox News.
“As you can imagine, I was nervous that they were planning something even more nefarious than just visual intimidation,” Vanessa said.
Vanessa and other moviegoers complained to the theater and called the police. She said she was issued a refund and left.
“When the manager went in to check on them they had removed all intimidating items. They knew what they were doing,” Vanessa said. “Potential criminals got to stay while we had to leave because we were afraid they might do something violent. My son did not want to leave because he didn't want them to succeed in their plan of intimidation and free speech suppression. But I told him a movie was not worth our lives in case they had weapons or something.”
The La Habra police department confirmed to Fox News that they arrived on the scene after receiving a call about two men interrupting the film, but said no incident report was made. It’s unclear if the alleged troublemakers were trying to purposely disrupt the pro-free speech film for political reasons.
“They came full sprint to the top of the theater with bandanas on their face,” another attendee, Scott Stroud, confirmed to Fox News.
Stroud said that he pressured management to call the police, and they eventually obliged after initially downplaying the situation and assuring that the backpacks of the men were searched. Stroud said he explained the subject matter of the movie to theater workers in an effort to be taken seriously.
Stroud said police told him theater management didn’t think it was necessary to investigate further, but he disagrees.
“Common sense says you would want to question them,” Stroud said.
The La Habra police department declined to say why a report wasn’t filed.
"This story is quite angering, and an example of what is happening increasingly in America. I urge Americans to be courageous. It took courage for us to make this movie and now, apparently, it's going to take courage for Americans to watch it,” the film's co-star Dennis Prager told Fox News. “America is the safe space in which we are supposed to be free to hear different ideas, including the ideas in this film, without fear of reprisal, and certainly without fear of physical harm.“
The documentary, which Prager has called a "wake-up call" to the American people, focuses on free speech being restricted to satisfy political agendas.
“If I know anything about my fellow Americans, it is that we are not easily frightened by thugs. I urge America to reject the fear that these incidents are designed to engender; be courageous, and go see our movie in a theater. This incident is exactly why this movie is so important," Prager said.QuoteAs with others who disrupt events, they should be sued for damages, both as a civil rights violation and as a simple tort inflicting financial losses. Being sued is unpleasant, tedious, expensive, and gives you a higher profile than masked thugs generally want. And it’s an easy winner.
On the other hand, I suppose we should just thank them for their Trump2020 get-out-the-vote work.QuoteNot that I want to see anything terrible happen, but it’d be just a shame – a shame – if one of those wannabe thugs gave someone just enough reasonable fear of death or great bodily harm to get his face legitimately blown into the next county.
No, I said a shame. We just do not want this to happen.QuoteI’m 6’2″, 250-260 lbs. My voice has raised in pitch over the decades. I used to have a nice deep bass voice, but am now more of a middle to high baritone.
That said, I probably would have done the exact same thing. Gotten up, sat right next to them, and said loudly “Hey guys! This ought to be an interesting movie, doncha think? However, It’ll be hard for me to pay attention to the movie with you two wonderful fellas sitting next to me acting AWFULLY suspicious. I’m sure the other men in this theater agree, right folks?”QuoteBill I am a similar build. Its awesome being able to intimidate little antifa giant dads without raising a fist. Which is what I 100% bet they were. Also clearly the massive irony of them doing this is lost on them since they probably dont have the IQ to understand it.:usacry but also :american
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1205948183857319937
;)
Oh so he's a pedophile
HE WAS CANADIAN FIRSTWhat went wrong in that guy's life
Based on what Benji has explained above, it appears that he was a libertarian for a couple decades.
(If Russia removes a Monarch it’s bad right?)
I kinda agree with Shorty Shrimp. When things really turn to the dark side in Episode 3, I quite enjoy the movie. All about that "It's over Anakin. I have the high ground"
I kinda agree with Shorty Shrimp. When things really turn to the dark side in Episode 3, I quite enjoy the movie. All about that "It's over Anakin. I have the high ground"best memes, best bad dialogue, A+ would mine the memes again
Why Lizzo? Is it supposed to out racists? Fat shamers? Girl power haterz?
Do people get worked up and use the food delivery story as their cover to yell "fucking stupid biiiiiiiiiitch"?
she do IR? :drool
(https://i.redd.it/l2eyf9bl9d541.png)https://twitter.com/___Colb___/status/1203905044254466050
One can apply a prodigious intellect in the service of prosaic things — formulating a war plan, for instance, or constructing a ship. One can also apply brilliance in the service of a mistake or a crime, like managing a planned economy or robbing a bank.
It would be funny if he's angling for an anti-PC, fired4truth martyr grift but the NYT keeps employing him. But he's probably just bad.
At its best, the American university can still be a place of relentless intellectual challenge rather than ideological conformity and social groupthink. At its best, the United States can still be the country that respects, and sometimes rewards, all manner of heresies that outrage polite society and contradict established belief. At its best, the West can honor the principle of racial, religious and ethnic pluralism not as a grudging accommodation to strangers but as an affirmation of its own diverse identity.This is clearly an audition
This is clearly an auditionhttps://twitter.com/clairlemon/status/1211060972363767809
:delicioushttps://twitter.com/clairlemon/status/1211767907107004417
Bret Stephens’ article was ridiculous, eugenicist garbage. But calls to boycott the newspaper won’t help
Sadly, the morning the column debuted, Twitter commentary lurched from biting and witty takedowns of Stephens to calls to “boycott” the New York Times over the foolishness of one of dozens of contributors to but one section of a massive multimedia news and entertainment company. (Disclosure: I occasionally write op-eds for the Times.)
Although the harsh criticism of Stephens and the Times was completely warranted, in other respects the response – especially the calls for boycott – was misguided. Such posing not only simulates real political action, it displaces it, satiating one’s need to feel like one has done something. This is an example of a non-boycott boycott, narcissistic stunts we have seen emerge with targets like Starbucks and Facebook in recent years.
Before anyone says “What about South Africa?” or “What about the lunch counters during the civil rights movement?”, yes, specific, targeted, organized boycotts that generate real financial harm and demand serious sacrifice or risk by participants can effect change. But none of that is happening with these hashtag eruptions.
Potentially effective boycotts are focused, local, disciplined, and have specific, articulated goals and demands. They must bring public shame and measurable financial harm to a firm. A few people tweeting “I’m going to stop subscribing to the Times because of Bret Stephens” does not rise to the level of successful social movements or tactics.
If one believes, in the absence of evidence, that a few dozen Twitter users canceling subscriptions to the New York Times would affect decisions at the Times, one does not understand the incentives embedded in the attention economy. The Times, like most other globally available web publications (including Breitbart and any number of white supremacist sites), benefits from umbrage as much as applause.
Futility aside, to threaten to withhold revenue to any respectable news publication at this moment in history is hard to justify. We need quality journalism, expensive investigations, and bright commentary more than ever. The Times, for all its flaws, overwhelmingly delivers all of these things. The Times has serious lapses in judgment and reporting – like any publication, including The Guardian – but we should not wish for a day when The New York Times does not exist.
A fake boycott of the Times would be meaningless at best, counterproductive at worst. What can we do about the Bret Stephens problem, then? The only reasonable and potentially effective response is to push at what the leaders of the Times care about as much as their revenue: their reputation for seriousness and responsibility. Shaming the Times works better than threatening the Times.
long man bad is a pretty silly argument to make, already seeing people outing themselves as mental midgets, that being said, not a chance on earth im watching this video, not interested in the slightest :heh :nope
bih needs to be slapped anytime he starts talking foreign policy ::)I'm obviously not very interested in the specifically american stuff :yuck
you do fall back on disinterest for purposes of avoidance, not that I find it bothersome or something to hold against youWell it's not topical, depends on who replies to me, I find a bunch of people on here not worth engaging with so I wont, I'd talk at length with others. If we're talking about contrapoints, someone in here linked me to them for the first time and I died laughing at what was put forth as a coherent 'counterpoint', havent been interested since, never will be again, i do however despise the 'long man bad' argument as it doesnt go beyond 'i dont have time for this therefor it sux'.
you do fall back on disinterest for purposes of avoidance, not that I find it bothersome or something to hold against youWell it's not topical, depends on who replies to me, I find a bunch of people on here not worth engaging with so I wont, I'd talk at length with others. If we're talking about contrapoints, someone in here linked me to them for the first time and I died laughing at what was put forth as a coherent 'counterpoint', havent been interested since, never will be again, i do however despise the 'long man bad' argument as it doesnt go beyond 'i dont have time for this therefor it sux'.
I follow boxxy cause she makes smart people arguments like a baffoon and it's entertaining. Contrapoints makes dumb people arguments with theatre and misdirection. Listen I'm not going to watch the video, I'm not interested, I just wanted to add that people who trash it based on length are morons.you do fall back on disinterest for purposes of avoidance, not that I find it bothersome or something to hold against youWell it's not topical, depends on who replies to me, I find a bunch of people on here not worth engaging with so I wont, I'd talk at length with others. If we're talking about contrapoints, someone in here linked me to them for the first time and I died laughing at what was put forth as a coherent 'counterpoint', havent been interested since, never will be again, i do however despise the 'long man bad' argument as it doesnt go beyond 'i dont have time for this therefor it sux'.
contrapoints makes some good arguments, if you can get past all the cringe whimsy, which I personally cannot, but it's kind of weird to dismiss her on that basis. Don't you follow that boxxy lookalike? She is way more of a surface level thinker than contra
not sure how this has escalated to disagreeing with each other's opinions, about the worst place a conversation can go
Her boyfriend is such a toe-cheese flake :deadnot sure how this has escalated to disagreeing with each other's opinions, about the worst place a conversation can go
I just wanted to shit on the boxxy lookalike and her dumb boyfriend :yeshrug
https://twitter.com/williamlegate/status/1212962834457468929
Why does this guy's manner of speaking remind me so much of SuperBunnyHop? Are they from the same area of the country?
Probably should fuck upHere is my specific confusion about you. Are you for the minimal state monopoly, or the purely voluntary state (replicating the international anarchy within the current national boundaries)?Lassiez FaWank Dad with this AMA type thing
She currently works with the NYC Trans Oral History Project, and is helping to start a new queer-communist journal called Pinko.:doge
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VoluntaryismProbably should fuck upHere is my specific confusion about you. Are you for the minimal state monopoly, or the purely voluntary state (replicating the international anarchy within the current national boundaries)?Lassiez FaWank Dad with this AMA type thing
If all men are created equal, that is final. If they are endowed with inalienable rights, that is final. If governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed, that is final. No advance, no progress can be made beyond these propositions. If anyone wishes to deny their truth or their soundness, the only direction in which he can proceed historically is not forward, but backward toward the time when there was no equality, no rights of the individual, no rule of the people. Those who wish to proceed in that direction can not lay claim to progress. They are reactionary.Then sometimes they're just interesting to think about, or compare something to, like whenever I quote from The Doctrine of Fascism.
I don't get it. He's suppose to look like Yang?
https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1214037300402966528I didnt expect to see Diabito in this thread :lol
https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1214991222009409536Ah yes, the good old I was 'hacked' :heh
:dobbs
I'm Queer, covered in tattoos and vote Liberal Democratnewsfeed
Their smear campaigns against me will only get worse the better I donewsfeed
https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1215080448113725441First a hack now a scam? :lol
This guy is an idiot.
It's entirely possible he got duped and ran to Twitter first instead of IT like a moron. Sextortion scams with btc ransoms are extremely popular right now and all it'd take is a little tweek.
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/07/sextortion-scam-what-do-if-you-get-latest-phishing-spam-demanding-bitcoin
Those are my favorite spam scams. "We know what porn you've been watching and we are gonna release all your site visits. We see you've been watching some pretty raunchy stuff. Wouldn't want your family to know that, huh. Pay us... by... or else...".Not really an option if you're in the James/Attra club though :idont
Ya ok boomer. What I love about this is how it preys on sex negative aspect of all societies. Essentially trying to use shame and guilt about something no one should feel shame and guilt about. So I consider these people extra cunty thanks to the social aspect of it.
But they can't win when you don't play the game aka "nah fuck you. Sex is normal. Watching people bang is normal. Go fuck yourself you puritan scum."
Those are my favorite spam scams. "We know what porn you've been watching and we are gonna release all your site visits. We see you've been watching some pretty raunchy stuff. Wouldn't want your family to know that, huh. Pay us... by... or else...".
Ya ok boomer. What I love about this is how it preys on sex negative aspect of all societies. Essentially trying to use shame and guilt about something no one should feel shame and guilt about. So I consider these people extra cunty thanks to the social aspect of it.
But they can't win when you don't play the game aka "nah fuck you. Sex is normal. Watching people bang is normal. Go fuck yourself you puritan scum."
roger scruton just died. still waiting on john finnisall the tweets i'm seeing on scruton are other academics saying "oh of course while i had a healthy disagreement with his politics he was a super nice guy in person! look how nice his office was!"
Maybe don't tweet about 30 year old women's eggs if you don't want future employers to see it when they search you weirdo
Maybe don't tweet about 30 year old women's eggs if you don't want future employers to see it when they search you weirdo
https://twitter.com/themattdimitri/status/1216623809576357893
:fbm
https://twitter.com/VicBergerIV/status/1217197730402951168
So you're saying he went to a rich private school where the kids are much less likely to be seriously punished for their behavior.
he was raised a zionist :pacspit
Shapiro is also mad at Hollywood in general for not making it. If he had one but, he'd just be in the closet conservative hoping nobody looked him up.
unfortunately, he seems to have grown up really privileged so likely experienced zero corrective bullying
filler-Occupied Government
While I think it's a bad sign, it is super funny that the word filter for a kind of Jewish nationalist is filler.even better is triple parens
how many of you jews got women with huge tits in your family? :rash
my gf is actually half jewish :rejoice
While I think it's a bad sign, it is super funny that the word filter for a kind of Jewish nationalist is filler.even better is triple parens
fillerThemrellif
my gf is actually half jewish :rejoice
and she got one big tit and one small one.
https://twitter.com/CobiManessUno/status/1215765367445786624
Dragging? I think we just appreciate large busts.Posted in this context? Yeah I think it's dragging, not that I care, I just wanted to know if she was a 'tard or not.
Ah the inevitable drift into Khazar posting. :whatsthedeal
how many of you jews got women with huge tits in your family? :rashhow many of them sucked sweet sweet lechita out of big khazar milkers as babbies... or later in life :drool
movieblob is such a low hanging fruit but picking it is catharticI know, but this fucker :dead
movieblob is such a low hanging fruit but picking it is catharticI know, but this fucker :dead
https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1218003484005617665
https://twitter.com/REALpunknews/status/1218669526981672960
the most important outcome though(https://i.imgur.com/Ii3kP8C.png)
https://twitter.com/RitaPanahi/status/1218673429299126272
she's getting shredded in the comments :neogafmeh youtube, people are calling him out here -> https://old.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/erpuo0/joe_rogan_experience_1415_bari_weiss/
not joe for some reason, however :doge
she's getting shredded in the comments :neogafmeh youtube, people are calling him out here -> https://old.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/erpuo0/joe_rogan_experience_1415_bari_weiss/
not joe for some reason, however :doge
Especially since this is the follow-up to him having CIA PR on last show
Damien Rees
14 hours ago
Ironic she talks about slavery, who owned all the slave ships and why was they a star of David on a port in Kenya?
Emma Uncanny
14 hours ago
Since 1984, the billions of dollars the US sends to Israel isn’t in the form of loans, it is GRANTS. They have universal healthcare and college is subsidized.
Strung Up
9 hours ago
"Everyone has hated us since forever, it's their fault though"
Imagine accepting this line of reasoning from anyone else.
"I've been divorced 5 times but it was never my fault"
Bip Bap
14 hours ago
I was kicked out of 109 bars. It was never my fault.
"I've been fired from every job I've ever had and it was never my fault"
momo's favThe King :rejoice
https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1219560919874899970
https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1219591788572434432
https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1220181496113303555
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1220086271302950912who does he think he is, the pregnancy police?
THIS SON OF A BITCH HAS GONE TOO FAR :social
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1220086271302950912
THIS SON OF A BITCH HAS GONE TOO FAR :social
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1220086271302950912You gotta appreciate a guy staying on brand
THIS SON OF A BITCH HAS GONE TOO FAR :social
https://twitter.com/hexen220/status/1219648700206551040
thanks tripon
joe rogan also believes there shouldn't be a president cause we dumb apes can't elect anyone worthwhile and that we should just have a council of "really smart people" run the world so in that context bernie is actually his second choice :yeshrug
they all loved hill dawg in 2016 tho :kermithttps://twitter.com/hexen220/status/1219648700206551040
They mad.spoiler (click to show/hide)https://twitter.com/sadydoyle/status/1220513471995031554
https://twitter.com/Ring_Sheryl/status/1220496027733590016
https://twitter.com/mikeyfranklin/status/1220499891471994883
https://twitter.com/shannoncoulter/status/1220510779071295488
https://twitter.com/TheStagmania/status/1220516616661864449
https://twitter.com/ag_due/status/1220520871363796992
https://twitter.com/traceyecorder/status/1220489425500569600
https://twitter.com/riotwomennn/status/1220519419245486081
https://twitter.com/TheStagmania/status/1220490308514975748[close]
someone familiar with the identity politics here let me in on the secret, why do absolute fuckbags like carlos maza hate Bernie? He's the most left of all the candidates and aligns with them best, whot the fuck do they actually want? AOC?https://twitter.com/hexen220/status/1219648700206551040 (https://twitter.com/hexen220/status/1219648700206551040)
They mad.spoiler (click to show/hide)https://twitter.com/gaywonk/status/1220554118034608128 (https://twitter.com/gaywonk/status/1220554118034608128)
https://twitter.com/sadydoyle/status/1220513471995031554 (https://twitter.com/sadydoyle/status/1220513471995031554)
https://twitter.com/Ring_Sheryl/status/1220496027733590016 (https://twitter.com/Ring_Sheryl/status/1220496027733590016)
https://twitter.com/mikeyfranklin/status/1220499891471994883 (https://twitter.com/mikeyfranklin/status/1220499891471994883)
https://twitter.com/shannoncoulter/status/1220510779071295488 (https://twitter.com/shannoncoulter/status/1220510779071295488)
https://twitter.com/TheStagmania/status/1220516616661864449 (https://twitter.com/TheStagmania/status/1220516616661864449)
https://twitter.com/ag_due/status/1220520871363796992 (https://twitter.com/ag_due/status/1220520871363796992)
https://twitter.com/traceyecorder/status/1220489425500569600 (https://twitter.com/traceyecorder/status/1220489425500569600)
https://twitter.com/riotwomennn/status/1220519419245486081 (https://twitter.com/riotwomennn/status/1220519419245486081)
https://twitter.com/TheStagmania/status/1220490308514975748 (https://twitter.com/TheStagmania/status/1220490308514975748)[close]
you're so weird, momoI'm the weirdest guy I know, but why weird in this context?
the way you're so conflict-averse and are uncomfortable with harsh criticisms of (for example) jordan peterson or alex jones then call some rose emoji an "absolute fuckbag"I'm not conflict averse, I'm averse to wasting my time by arguing strawmen, like you right here trying to paint me as a jordan peterson/alex jones defender when I was clearly critical of 'journalism' and always have been regardless of who is on the receiving end. If you bothered to follow anything about things that get me mad, you would realise I call Maza an absolute fuckbag, because he is responsible for the thing that I always get mad about - faux journalism.
I'm not conflict averse
I said disagreeing about *opinions* is the worst place a conversation can go. go pull up the quote and also realise the context.I'm not conflict averse
you said people disagreeing with each other is the "worst place a conversation can go"
I said disagreeing about *opinions* is the worst place a conversation can go. go pull up the quote and also realise the context.
(https://i.imgur.com/nWRg7yp.jpg)I said disagreeing about *opinions* is the worst place a conversation can go. go pull up the quote and also realise the context.
is that not conflict aversion?
so how are all you on this fine, fine dayI just got a chai tea :lawd
spiced? :hitlerso how are all you on this fine, fine dayI just got a chai tea :lawd
The only CHAI I needspiced? :hitlerso how are all you on this fine, fine dayI just got a chai tea :lawd
P.S. you can just say "chai", bb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xY_D8SMNtEThis is jamie's worst nightmare :lol
https://twitter.com/mugrimm/status/1220546366025469953I'm so glad most of the key replies seem to be about the fact that he's dressed the same as the small child behind him.
Carlos Maza is an absolute fuckbag*looks up who the hell that is*
breathe
So you're going to disavow von Mises, now? :jawalrusSTATIST SCUM:
As the liberal sees it, the task of the state consists solely and exclusively in guaranteeing the protection of life, health, liberty, and private property against violent attacks. Everything that goes beyond this is an evil.
https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1221144062230659077
I could be wrong, but I get the feeling this bitch had no issue with what happened to assange or what's happening to greenwald. sure loves playing the victim now that littles slight comes her way ::)
https://twitter.com/wideofthepost/status/1220922528048320513
mahr is really all in with klob :lol
Other than the Nazi stuff, Richard Spencer is a pretty good troll. Plus he might have caused Sargon's mid-life crisis spiral. I'd link to a clip of the part where Sargon has his BSOD but you can't find it anywhere because one guy's a Nazi and banned from nearly everywhere, another guy's at least alt-right and banned from nearly everywhere and the last guy is Sargon, so the only version is the whole five hour long nonsense.
:bow Peter :bow2
https://twitter.com/HenryKrinkIe/status/1221980538426351616
https://twitter.com/TheAtlantic/status/1221827357276807169
David Frum knows about advocating for war. :awesome
But Sanders is a Marxist of the old school of dialectical materialism, from the land that time forgot.fuck, I wish
Would Varg go hereyes
https://twitter.com/Carzonfye/status/1221952405622923264
never really fantasized about murdering someone 'til i read molyneux tweetsi want to put him in a glass containment area with random blocks and toys, an internet connection and just livestream him 24/7
I have no clue which thread this garbage belongs in
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https://twitter com/CogitoErgoTsun/status/1220222306762416130Excellent handle, too.
As we get further away from his much-too-early death, I find myself missing Christopher more and more. Not so much his company, but his presence as a writer.This low-key burn :lol
This is why outrage has been redefined as a kind of stupidity. Esteemed writers can be celebrated for being loud, angry, and rude, as Hitchens was. But they are never called shrill. For shrillness connotes desperation, and desperation belongs to the lesser world—the world inhabited by ordinary people, who often argue not because they need to argue, but simply because they need.aw ye, say it
The original article is even better:I'm only halfway through but I just got to this bit about the Charlie Hebdo massacre:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/01/packer-hitchens/605365/
Haven't seen self mythologizing like this in a long time :lawd
Theocratic Islam should be off-limits to satirists, the PEN writers argued, because French Muslims belonged to a “marginalized, embattled, and victimized” group.This is factually wrong... I distinctly remember the metacommentary from this time and the most common complaint that I can recall was that not all speech is of the same value. When defending dissent, there should actually be substance to the dissent. Charlie Hebdo was cranking out crude blasphemy, and it's not like Muslim bashing (in 2015!) was some kind of brave or original statement. When everyone was lining up to heap praise on them, it debased the long and difficult struggle for intellectual freedom. I mean, what ugly revisionism. He looks back and all he can see is cancel-culture.
A friend of mine once heard from a New York publisher that his manuscript was unacceptable because it went against a “consensus” on the subject of race.Why does anti-thought-police screed always circle back to race science :-\
Krystal Ball and Saagar Enjeti are co-hosts of Rising at The Hill TV, one of the fastest growing political shows in America. Theirs is the only book that fuses the populist right and populist left to explain the rise of the Trump and Sanders movements. The authors curate an essential collection of their biting commentary, stunning predictions, media critiques, and reveal their vision for a working class centered politics. No establishment media or political figure goes unscathed. This book reveals the white hot core of The Hill Rising's meteoric rise in the alternative media space.
We are living through chaotic, nerve-wracking, and occasionally terrifying times, but we hope you will find this book both hopeful and helpful. Nothing has made us more hopeful than our work together on Rising, watching what unfolds, laughing at the absurdities, and joining in our outrage at the often bipartisan rituals of manipulating our fellow citizens and viewing them with contempt. People are often confused by our politics and how much we end up in agreement. Ultimately, we have largely different policy prescriptions and beliefs. However, we do share a central diagnosis of the rot in this country, of how we got to this place, and a deep skepticism of power. It's amazing how far you can get when you start in the same place with a shared understanding of reality. It's a hell of a lot further than the shallow, fake civility politics that the forces of the status-quo say you must embrace-'Keep quiet and hold still while they rip you to shreds.' We take the opposite view. Speak up. Make people uncomfortable. Don't let the "experts" convince you that better isn't possible.
"As we saw in 2016 and we're seeing in 2020, many in the mainstream media just don't get what's going on in this country. Krystal and Saagar, however, see the trends that are impacting Americans across this country, which is why their election coverage has been some of the best out there. They're some of the only people talking about the need to fundamentally rewrite the rules of the 21st century so they work for Americans again."
- Presidential Candidate Andrew Yang
"The striking thing about revolutionary moments is that almost nobody understands them as they're happening. Saagar Enjeti and Krystal Ball do. They know exactly what's going on in our country right now, and they can explain it with near-perfect clarity. This is a tremendous and important book."
- Fox News Host Tucker Carlson
"Krystal and Saagar weave a poignant and righteous web of reflection of the political climate we are in. They call out the role elites of both the Democratic and Republican parties play, including the mainstream media, in propping up a rigged system that ignores the needs of the working poor and middle class. This is one of the best political books I always knew I needed. Ultimately, The Populist's Guide to 2020 reminds us that no matter how the elites try to thwart the progress of the majority, our Rising is in our hands."
- National Co-Chair Bernie 2020, Former Ohio State Senator Nina Turner
"Rising brings a refreshingly bold and rare voice, shining a spotlight on how inextricably tied together the corporate media, foreign policy establishment and war machine are in Washington. While representing different ends of the political spectrum, Krystal and Saagar bring voice to so many Americans across party lines who have had enough of the stupid, wasteful wars the war machine is championing that have cost us so much in lives and taxpayer dollars. Ending the pay-to-play culture in Washington can only happen with leaders willing to speak the truth. Krystal and Saager are unafraid and doing just that."
- Presidential Candidate and Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard
"Krystal and Saagar are the indispensable new media stars. They're raw truth tellers beholden to nobody and nothing but their own conscience. They marry the populist left and populist right in a perfect balance of outsider wisdom. They're the future of politics and this book demonstrates that perfectly."
- Justice Democrats Co-Founder Kyle Kulinski
Paperback: 244 pagesif I see this at the library I will skim through it to see if it's awful enough to read, that's the benji guarantee™
The original article is even better:I'm only halfway through but I just got to this bit about the Charlie Hebdo massacre:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/01/packer-hitchens/605365/
Haven't seen self mythologizing like this in a long time :lawdQuoteTheocratic Islam should be off-limits to satirists, the PEN writers argued, because French Muslims belonged to a “marginalized, embattled, and victimized” group.This is factually wrong... I distinctly remember the metacommentary from this time and the most common complaint that I can recall was that not all speech is of the same value. When defending dissent, there should actually be substance to the dissent. Charlie Hebdo was cranking out crude blasphemy, and it's not like Muslim bashing (in 2015!) was some kind of brave or original statement. When everyone was lining up to heap praise on them, it debased the long and difficult struggle for intellectual freedom. I mean, what ugly revisionism. He looks back and all he can see is cancel-culture.
@el Babua... This guy :fbm
Oh nooooooo :dead
https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/1222951755232808962
Literally every Indian person in media is a fascist besides Ash sarkar
The Conservatives Trying to Ditch Fake News
The Dispatch wants to sell serious, fact-based stories to the right. But do readers want them?
Jonah goldberg, the conservative author and longtime fixture at National Review, used to have a go-to metaphor he’d deploy whenever he found himself defending one of his noisier compatriots in the right-wing media.
“I had this whole spiel about how the conservative movement is like a symphony,” he told me in a recent interview. “You need the fine woodwinds like Yuval Levin or Irving Kristol, but you also need that guy with the big gong who just smashes out the notes.” Sure, the talk-radio ranters were shouty and crass, he would reason, but they had their part to play.
These days, Goldberg has abandoned such rationalizations. “We’re holding a lot of symphonies where it’s basically all gong,” he said. “I didn’t think the gong would swamp the woodwinds quite the way it did.” Looking back, he admits even he was part of the problem: “I could be quite loud.”
Now, Goldberg said, he’s ready to “atone.” Last year, he left his perch at National Review and joined a handful of prominent conservative writers to launch The Dispatch, a new media venture with a mission that’s as straightforward as it is radical: producing serious, factually grounded journalism for a conservative audience. In interviews, editors told me they aim to fill a growing void on the right’s media landscape, which they described as oversaturated with hot takes and starved of reporting, obsessed with lib-ownership and uninterested in facts. On any given day, those who get their news from the loudest voices on the right—Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Breitbart News—are bombarded with partisan propaganda, conspiracy theories, and cynical rage-bait.
When I asked Goldberg about The Bulwark—another news site run by GOP dissidents—he told me he appreciates their work, but finds the content “too overwhelmingly about Trump for my tastes.” Nor does he identify with a certain breed of conservative commentator who has tacked sharply to the left since Trump’s election. “I didn’t go full Jen Rubin or Max Boot,” Goldberg said, referring to two Washington Post columnists. “Nobody picked me up and paraded me around in a dunce cap as I renounced all my former positions.” (Asked to respond, Boot said, “I wish The Dispatch all the success in the world.” Rubin said, “That’s just sad. I thought The Dispatch was aiming higher.”)
While the new site hasn’t shied away from criticizing the president, its founders seem more focused on addressing the factors that enabled his rise—most notably, the corrosion of the conservative media.
Both men praised their former colleagues, and acknowledged the difficulties that National Review—a nonprofit that relies on financial support from conservative donors—faces in navigating the Trump era. But the pressures they described reflect acute structural problems throughout the conservative-media complex. At highbrow publications, Goldberg said, once-respectable writers have abandoned their ideological convictions in favor of an incoherent Trumpism. “People are groping in the dark to find something to hold on to that reconciles their intellectual self-regard with their support for Donald Trump, and for just generalized meanness,” he told me. More populist outlets, meanwhile, have all but dropped the pretense of practicing factual journalism. “At places like Breitbart and further off into the swamplands,” Goldberg said, “you can literally just make stuff up as long as it makes people angry enough to click on it.” (A spokesperson for Breitbart responded by email: “lol.”)
French attributes the dearth of serious reporting on the right in part to the “towering presence” of Fox News. “You have one institution that is so incredibly potent as a validator of conservative personalities, and as a pathway to personal prosperity,” he told me. The success of Fox’s primetime model—grievance over substance, shouting over scoops—has shaped a generation of conservative media. And even those who disagree with the network’s approach hesitate to speak up for careerist reasons, French said: “People on the right are very wary of how they evaluate Fox.”
At one point, the producer instructed everyone to clap so as to synchronize their audio, which prompted Goldberg to make a gonorrhea joke, and Isgur to let out a performative sigh. “That’s why we have a woman on the podcast,” she said. “To make sure we don’t talk about World War II–era venereal diseases.” (“I think it’s a little older than World War II,” Goldberg muttered.)
Still, Mark Hemingway, a conservative journalist who writes for RealClearInvestigations, told me the outlet’s reach would likely be limited by its Trump-averse posture. For all the attention Never Trump voices receive from the mainstream media, he said, readers on the right simply aren’t interested: “There’s absolutely zero market for it.”
In 2009, Tucker Carlson was famously booed during a speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference when he defended the journalistic values of The New York Times, and suggested that the right should be emulating the paper. Conservative journalists, he said, should “go out there and find what is happening … not just interpret things they hear in the mainstream media, but gather news themselves.”
The next year, Carlson launched The Daily Caller. The site would, he declared, have an old-fashioned journalistic mission: producing stories “that add to the sum total of known facts about politics and government.” But even as he hired promising young reporters, Carlson seemed aware of how market pressures could derail the project. His biggest fear, he told The New Republic at the time, was that “you could wind up with a page only about porn, executions, and Sarah Palin every day.”
As the coronavirus continues to spread, the World Health Organization has declared a state of emergency. This week, On the Media looks at how panic and misinformation are going viral, too. Plus, a controversial endorsement for Bernie Sanders puts the spotlight on Joe Rogan, and has renewed the debate over "cancel culture." And, the impeachment proceedings continue to move toward a conclusion.
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:-[ :pimp
Why didn't you fucks tell me Lauren Chen is hot af :maf
Love it when im right about three shit people.
:win
https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1224178617866833921
:drool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZMIbo_DxJk
:rejoice
He goes on to answer a critique i've seen some people in here levy against him. Once again he crushes.
Where's forums poster curly when his fave Matt Stoller gets in a fight with a bore fave :mjcryman: https://twitter.com/matthewstoller/status/1224462917501882368
shock and awe, i say:
https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1224532731775741952
(...)
By the hand of a man named Jim
Millions dying, millions crying
for the loss of their family
Moms missing, Babies gone, fathers loss
All for not, All for not
We have the news, this doesn't have to be
For just a few drops of a mineral can heal
Of the parasite you can be free
But no money in that says the evil man
So people keep dying at this dis-ease's hand
The Big Pharma are making money
At the bank they think its funny
How they can control men's health
While they live in much wealth
Money has been paid to pass evil laws
To protect that wealth from leaving their paws
(...)
Strange to put Bernie in there with a list of billionaires and Papa John :lol
The last year, which saw him retreat from public life after swiftly becoming one of the most famous authors in the world, has been an “absolute hell,” said Mikhaila, also a well known speaker on diet, who advocates eating only beef.is literally a piece of kent brockman dialogue :dead
Just realized this guys addicted to PKs and eating a zero fiber diet. Probably hasn't taken a shit in 6 months :neogafhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1WNrnsfb44
Just realized this guys addicted to PKs and eating a zero fiber diet. Probably hasn't taken a shit in 6 months :neogaf
She and her husband took him to Moscow last month, where he was diagnosed with pneumonia and put into an induced coma for eight days. She said his withdrawal was “horrific,” worse than anything she had ever heard about. She said Russian doctors are not influenced by pharmaceutical companies to treat the side-effects of one drug with more drugs, and that they “have the guts to medically detox someone from benzodiazepines.”Just imagine how poorly this would have gone if he had trusted the gutless doctors in North America.
Jordan Peterson has only just come out of an intensive care unit, Mikhaila said. He has neurological damage, and a long way to go to full recovery. He is taking anti-seizure medication and cannot type or walk unaided
obligatory no-fun post about how schadenfreude is bad but this:NO. He bailed out of the capitalist system trained doctors because of their poor suggestions based on capitalist motives to head to a country probably staffed full of socialist trained doctors still who put him into an induced coma to treat pneumonia with a side of benzo addiction.
This is worse than anything I’ve ever heard about.
This part stood out to meQuotehis sense of humour has returned.
as he's always been the most serious, completely lacking in any sense of humor guy every time I've ever heard him in any format.
It does make some sense why he was getting progressively more visibly miserable every time he'd do a new Rogan or youtube video or whatever. Jorp couldn't be more stereotypical of like....a movie version of a textbook psychologist stereotype and that's hilarious. The specifics aren't so funny, but the general story of the psychologist who made it big selling fluffy self help bullshit about getting your shit together in fact did not have his own shit together and got himself put into a medically induced coma in Russia for something he could have done in his own city is :lol
What if he went to Russia as part of his Soviet fetish like how he decorated his house?in today's climate, using drug addiction as an excuse to go on a Russian art tour seems like a legitimate endeavour.
What if he went to Russia as part of his Soviet fetish like how he decorated his house?
He was apologizing for the movie Dark Phoenix.He'd have to walk through a shame parade the length of the great wall
https://twitter.com/toddhgreen/status/1226557020582678528spoiler (click to show/hide)https://youtu.be/zqO8Yh5Ngqg[close]
"I have big tits and an Ashkenazi IQ":drool
D A M A G E D
My name is Corey Wayne, and I am a Life and Peak Performance Coach. I help men and women to achieve their dreams, discover their purpose, improve their relationships, start a business, improve personal health & fitness, maximize time management, become a superstar in sales, set & achieve their most audacious goals, become a leader, be better team builders, break thru their deepest fears and limiting beliefs, overcome difficult life challenges, lose weight, regain balance in all areas of their lives (including personal finances and wealth building), etc.YOU CAN'T CALL YOURSELF COACH :rage
I also have the unique specialty of helping men to meet & date the type of women they’ve always wanted and have effortless relationships, how to get a girlfriend, or how to get their wife or girlfriend back. I also coach women on how to make their relationships what they’ve always wanted or to find that one true love.
I work with professional athletes, musicians, CEO’s, Doctors, sales and business professionals, military veterans (active and retired), business owners, professional coaches, and of course your average Joe and Jane Six-pack 🙂
I will coach anyone who has a sincere desire to break thru their own fears and limiting beliefs (known or unknown) to make their greatest dreams, goals & outcomes a reality.
I came from very humble beginnings. When I finished high school I was trying to decide what I wanted to do with my life. I had always been interested in buying, fixing, and reselling single family homes for a profit. I fell in love with the TV show “This Old House.” I decided to major in Construction Management to learn how to build before starting my own business someday.
However, after 5 years of college I still had 2 years of course work left to complete in order to get my degree. One class I had to pass in order to graduate was Calculus. I had dropped this class three times in order to keep from getting a failing grade. I had done the same with several other difficult classes. It was starting to look hopeless. I was full of fear that I would never graduate and get my degree.
My whole future was in doubt. I was terrified that if I did not get a degree I could not get a job in construction management, would not be able to have my own business someday, and would be poor, broke, and lonely the rest of my life.
Just when it looked like my life was over and I would have to spend my life struggling and working jobs I hated, I met a Life & Peak Performance coach that completely changed my life forever.
He was able to see things I was doing to sabotage myself. He also taught me strategies I could use to radically change the way I looked at things and to get me through the difficult and challenging times. He had been where I was once in his own life and now was a multi-millionaire, a leader, an entrepreneur, happily married, and had all of the material things that everyone dreams about, but few actually have. He taught me the secrets of success that only the worlds top athletes, entrepreneurs, investors, doctors, and experts knew about achieving success and living the life of your dreams.
Two years after he started coaching me, I graduated college with the degree I wanted (I got an A in Calculus!). I got my dream job working for Centex Rooney, one of the worlds largest commercial General Contractor’s as a project Engineer on the $150 million dollar Coronado Springs Resort at Walt Disney World. I was also formulating my plan to start my own company buying, fixing, and reselling single family homes for a profit.
After working for other people for five years learning how to build, I decided I was ready to make my move. I quit my job at Centex Rooney, borrowed $50,000 on my credit cards, and purchased two foreclosure homes in Orlando, FL.
Within two years I had taken on two business partners and we were all making multiple six figure incomes. I was only making $37,000 per year when I left Centex Rooney! We bought and sold 10-12 properties per month. Some we kept and did ourselves and others we flipped to other investors. I bought my first exotic sports car, a red Lotus Espirit V-8 twin turbo 350 hp work of art. I was living in a beautiful foreclosure I purchased for $118,000 that was worth $455,000 after renovations were complete. I bought my first Rolex and was traveling the world staying in five star resorts and living the high life.
I only did about 10-12 hours of real work per week. I was making more money than I could spend, but was bored out of my mind. I just was not fulfilled. By 29 I had a successful business, big house, fancy cars, nice clothes, tons of money, and I was bored. I thought… is this all there is? I had an urge to give back and decided to start a new division of our company doing general real estate and mortgages. My goal was not just to make more money, but to teach people with a burning desire to succeed how to make multiple six figure incomes selling real estate and originating mortgages. One of my partners started a title company to handle the closings. So we took our little company of 4 people in 1999 and built it into 8 companies with 40 employees grossing $6 million dollars per year by 2004. We also purchased a distressed $2.5 million dollar office building for our operations which we later sold for a nice profit.
By the end of 2005 I wanted to teach and coach full time. I left our company and used the money I had made from it to start my present company “The Corey Wayne Companies.” In February 2006 I got my first book published “How To Be A 3% Man” which is a dating and relationship book for men. I spend the majority of my time coaching people from all over the world how to have phenomenal success, joy, and balance in all areas of their lives; their finances, relationships, health, businesses, etc.
Having lots of money and material things is nice and I am grateful for all I have, but for me, teaching, coaching, and helping others be their best selves and achieve their dreams fulfills me like nothing else I have ever done.
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Machiavelli avatar has to be Greek Statue Guy levs:pacspit
Which gay slur will Trump call Pete:fun boi :dead
cigarillo
Homo
Sissy
Fairy
Trump would take one look at them and go “ugh” and move on and then Pete and his husband would start high-fiving each other and laughing and yelling “hell yeah nicca, bigotry worked out for once, we got the whole debate stage to ourselves!”
But I thought the meat diet cured him of his mystery disease
Which gay slur will Trump call Pete:throat it deep pete! :lol
cigarillo
Homo
Sissy
Fairy
I’ve never claimed to be anything else. I like aesthetics and I like psychology; politics is just a channel of expression. I’m way more interested in the prepolitical than the political.
dasha also used to post on the reg but after shecheated on adamhad some life hiccups she stopped posting
red scare + fans seem to me like the plastics table in the left podcast cafeteria. how much of this crystal ball holds water and how much is it jake’s latent sexism?(https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/jbhmmm.png)
just found out anna khachiyan is a regular normal-one-haver (https://www.reddit.com/user/tsoiboy69) on her own subreddit.QuoteI’ve never claimed to be anything else. I like aesthetics and I like psychology; politics is just a channel of expression. I’m way more interested in the prepolitical than the political.
nothing scandalous or anything we didnt know already, just felt weird stumbling on. millenial tings, amiright?
https://twitter.com/TheLetterhack/status/1228469538964025344
:mindblown
https://twitter.com/RichardBSpencer/status/1227067007067017217
when your centrist candidate's policies are so bad for minorities the fucking nazis pile on :rofl :rofl :rofl
first as tragedy...
I gave up on all Brooklyn based podcasting. I can say that I'm now two months free, and it's done me wonders.
momo's favI'm letting him slide for now, he posts about 300 shit takes a day so I get tired lol
https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1228482160648167425
https://twitter.com/RichardDawkins/status/1228943686953664512
Hey occam, come get your boy!
It's possible that social media might have killed the public intellectual for the rest of human historySocial media are the new Greek Symposiums.
https://twitter.com/iucipur/status/1229539781677342720
:crowdlaff
https://twitter.com/JohnStossel/status/1229803007258198016 :delicious
:holeup
https://twitter.com/TheEconomist/status/1229969365543550976
https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1229938852246302721(https://i.imgur.com/0I2TQGI.png)
For yapuuox, Today is his birthday and he wanted me to draw the Sonic Boom version of Sonic punching manchild reviewer, moviebob. Personally I don’t much against Bob. Like I said, he’s just an egotiscital manchild who desperately latches on to the 80s and 90s. But yapuuo really hates the dude. So I hope you like man(https://66.media.tumblr.com/0c2e45f71fc05d8a1bd0f448db6a7785/tumblr_nsz5fnY3Wf1us5a3oo1_1280.jpg)
https://twitter.com/JohnStossel/status/1229803007258198016 :delicious
https://youtu.be/zrX9Ca7LSyQ
https://zackburgsart.tumblr.com/post/126510582862/for-yapuuox-today-is-his-birthday-and-he-wanted (https://zackburgsart.tumblr.com/post/126510582862/for-yapuuox-today-is-his-birthday-and-he-wanted)why is sonic doing a slavic squat? :gopnikQuoteFor yapuuox, Today is his birthday and he wanted me to draw the Sonic Boom version of Sonic punching manchild reviewer, moviebob. Personally I don’t much against Bob. Like I said, he’s just an egotiscital manchild who desperately latches on to the 80s and 90s. But yapuuo really hates the dude. So I hope you like man(https://66.media.tumblr.com/0c2e45f71fc05d8a1bd0f448db6a7785/tumblr_nsz5fnY3Wf1us5a3oo1_1280.jpg)
Liberty
Founded as Young Jeffersonians on February 11, 2015, Liberty Hangout is a libertarian media outlet which strives to bring readers relevant insight into current events, as well as promote Austrian economics and property rights. We believe in self-rule, self-determination, and non-aggression. We believe taxation is theft, and that the services the state provides can and should be privatized. We believe in decentralization down to the individual level, and that the government which is closest to home is easiest to control.
:hmmQuoteLibertyQuoteFounded as Young Jeffersonians on February 11, 2015, Liberty Hangout is a libertarian media outlet which strives to bring readers relevant insight into current events, as well as promote Austrian economics and property rights. We believe in self-rule, self-determination, and non-aggression. We believe taxation is theft, and that the services the state provides can and should be privatized. We believe in decentralization down to the individual level, and that the government which is closest to home is easiest to control.
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https://twitter.com/LibertyHangout/status/1225567746269884417
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:hmmQuoteLibertyQuoteFounded as Young Jeffersonians on February 11, 2015, Liberty Hangout is a libertarian media outlet which strives to bring readers relevant insight into current events, as well as promote Austrian economics and property rights. We believe in self-rule, self-determination, and non-aggression. We believe taxation is theft, and that the services the state provides can and should be privatized. We believe in decentralization down to the individual level, and that the government which is closest to home is easiest to control.
trying to bridge the gap between fedora atheism and redneck religiosityits like it shows you this but then jukes at the last two paragraphs into a mealy mouthed defense of ethically informed politics. like yeah motherfucker, no one thinks otherwise
Knowledge fight tho :donot
https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1231368127910481920
https://twitter.com/NicoleNajafi/status/1231248923706175488
https://twitter.com/HowardA_Esq/status/1231246427403231233
Author of Goodnight Loon: Poems & Parodies to Survive Trump:nope
https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1231082482163908608Grenell has to do all the shows obviously.
Rubin interviewed the German Ambassador and the acting DNI chief. :doge
Her Twitter feed is chock full of hot takes like that.
BARNACLE SANDBLAST !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xsh0fheNpts&t=336s
https://twitter.com/Baer_Bill/status/1232132823030620167 Tim Pool is bad at this.Nah he's fine. He's talking about border control not dealing with the disease being in the country already
https://twitter.com/akoz33/status/1232052025514496002
and straussian neocons too as a bonus!https://twitter.com/akoz33/status/1232052025514496002
Be illiterate to own the comms :brain
https://twitter.com/Aesophh/status/1232741751615520771Maybe we're all in a shared dream :dead
https://twitter.com/VicBergerIV/status/1233519098677600257
IOWA CITY — The people in the crowd were angry, and “Chapo Trap House” wanted them to stay that way. The five hosts of the popular socialist podcast wanted everyone to know they had all been lied to. About everything.
The media they consumed was fake news aimed to distract them from the only war worth fighting: the class war. Politesse, civility, even pleasure — those were tools of the neoliberal oppressor. The right answer is rage.
“That joy,” the Chapo co-host Will Menaker said to the crowd gathered in Iowa City on the eve of the Iowa caucus. “That’s good but it’s not as good a motivator when you’re really going to war as spite.”
“Let the hate feed you,” the co-host Amber A’Lee Frost added as the audience roared.
And it does. Especially toward other Democrats.
Supporters of former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. are “gelatinous 100-year-olds.”
Former Mayor Pete Buttigieg is “a bloodless asexual.”
“The gayest thing about him is he descends from an ethnic group that’s like a little toy dog,” Ms. A’Lee Frost said.
When Senator Elizabeth Warren’s name came up, the crowd made the sound of a snake hissing. She had accused Senator Bernie Sanders of saying that a woman could not beat President Trump, and so she is a snake.
“Yes, my sssssoldiers,” Mr. Menaker said.
Former Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg’s run appalls them. “Beat him so badly that this midget gremlin won’t even have a shot even with a trillion dollars,” Mr. Menaker said.
“Kill him,” someone shouted from the audience. These were jokes, of course. Everyone was laughing.
As Mr. Sanders rises in the polls and claims strong showings in early states, a new set of media stars is on the rise, too. Leading the pack are the hosts of “Chapo Trap House,” the Pied Pipers of the candidate’s online movement.
In their rowdy, vulgar weekly podcast, they are stoking the fires of a political insurgency led by their 78-year-old idol. The man stands for the movement, the movement is the man.
“Our boy Bernie” they call him.
The fivesome of “Chapo Trap House" are not the only bards of the new American left — there is “Red Scare” and another whose name cannot be printed — but they have led the way for a movement that together generates millions of dollars a year. They are on their way to becoming the socialist’s answer to right-wing shock jock radio. Their primary targets, in evidence at that show in Iowa, are not the Republican Party or even Mr. Trump but rather centrist liberals, whom they see as the major obstacle to a workers’ revolution.
In blurring occasionally violent humor, jovial community meetups and radical politics, they are the Tea Party reborn for progressives, and for their fans the appeal is in a bawdy offensive balance to cautious mainstream liberal politics.
They are known collectively as the Dirtbag Left, a shorthand they embrace that winkingly dispenses with any notion of liberal purity or inclusion, a defense mechanism that doubles as a nickname.
Most of the podcast fans would never say out loud what they are listening to onstage or through their AirPods on the commute. It’s offensive, even as a joke.
So why do so many progressives want to hear it?
The anti-establishment establishment
“Chapo Trap House,” which started in 2016, typically runs between 60 and 90 minutes. Two episodes are released every week, one for free and one for the nearly 38,000 people who pay $5 a month through the crowdfunding site Patreon. It leads to a financial windfall for the self-professed socialists who are harnessing this rage: $168,800 a month from those subscribers alone.
The main draw of the show is their banter, the hosts distilling the news of the week and checking in on their favorite and least favorite characters. But they have had major guests, including Mr. Sanders himself.
“These people on top are so powerful that the only way we bring them down, the only way we make the kinds of transformation this country absolutely requires is when millions of people are prepared to stand up and fight back,” Mr. Sanders said during his interview.
And the Sanders campaign maintains a close relationship with the podcast. His senior adviser, David Sirota, and his national press secretary, Briahna Joy Gray, have also been on the podcast. At the Iowa show, a Sanders volunteer stood at the door with fliers and pins to hand out and an email list to gather names.
Their followers — on the night in Iowa City more than 700 strong — come to hear them rage for three hours against the student debt, the high rent, the dead-end creative class jobs, and the feeling of hopelessness fighting against a liberal political establishment that seems polite when they are angry.
They were promised a better life, a more dignified life, and they are done waiting for it.
And for fans, it brings a sense of strength and community during a political era that has only felt like defeat.
“It’s really easy to feel alone in America. It’s the loneliest place in the loneliest time,” the co-host Felix Biederman said, speaking of the early days of their work. “But eventually people started to gather around all these posts into the void.”
The podcast has also morphed into a touring political rally: In addition to the Iowa show, the Chapo crew went to New Hampshire and Nevada, and they have a handful of dates in California leading up to Super Tuesday, filling large venues.
The topic is inequality, raging against the rich.
Progressives who are more concerned with racial equality or gender parity have had to figure out how to either go against the Dirtbag movement or resign themselves to this singular focus, which occasionally runs roughshod over all the rest.
“I’m a news junkie, and it’s good to supplement that with joking especially in America where everyone has to be so careful about what they say,” said Steven Sutro, a 32-year-old lawyer, who attended a comedy show last summer that featured a popular Dirtbag Left podcast host.
Julius Krein, the conservative founder of the new publication American Affairs, has noticed the new allies.
“There is a lot of interesting convergence on some of the anti-woke thinking and many things that, perhaps surprisingly, we agree on, for different reasons,” he said. One of the Chapo hosts contributed a piece to his magazine.
“It’s fairly easy to have fun, pretty exciting dialogue between right-wing anti-neoliberals and left-wing anti-neoliberals.”
But what some call an exciting dialogue can feel exclusionary to others.
“‘Chapo Trap House,’ the entire Dirtbag Left, have tapped that male privilege of intimidating people into assuming you’re cool,” said Amanda Marcotte, a liberal feminist writer for Salon. “It reminds me of when we pretended that ‘Jackass’ was funny back in the day, just so dudes wouldn’t bully you about not liking it.” (Ms. Marcotte has been vocal in her criticism of “Chapo Trap House” and is the subject of mocking attention from the Dirtbag universe.)
As it grows in influence, the Dirtbag Left movement is now running into several challenges.
The movement’s identity is based on being in the wilderness. What happens if its leaders become the establishment? That seems increasingly possible as Mr. Sanders holds on to front-runner status in the 2020 campaign. They want what Mr. Sanders wants: universal health care, canceled student loans, free college, and an overhaul of the tax system. They want to cut the national prison population by half and to install a ban on fracking. And for them anything less than this is nothing at all.
These Sanders supporters eschew the idea of party unity as a scam: “I won’t vote for anyone but Bernie in the general, can’t say what the hundreds of thousands of people who listen to my show will do, but I’m only speaking for myself,” Mr. Menaker wrote on Twitter a day after the Iowa caucuses.
An additional challenge is that as the free-floating anger they stoke finds community, it is escalating and souring into sometimes violent and ugly rhetoric — the kind of rhetoric that other Democratic contenders have fashioned into a major critique of Mr. Sanders.
On Monday, the Sanders campaign fired a campaign organizer, Ben Mora, after his private Twitter feed was revealed to include derogatory comments about 2020 candidates. The Chapo hosts publicly supported Mr. Mora, praising his organizing work and saying, “I hope the campaign doesn’t cave to these whiners and losers.”
For the hosts and their fans, those sort of tweets and the podcast language are all jokes. The audience understands the difference, they argue, and anyway the real problem with the Democrats is that they’re overly sensitive. A bunch of self-serious P.M.C.s (members of the professional-managerial class).
Over the summer, the “Chapo Trap House” message board, which has nearly 153,000 members who chat about the news and memes of the day, was censured by Reddit, which hosts it. The page now has limited reach and is in a sort of digital purgatory, where it remains.
“The reason for the quarantine is that we have observed repeated rule-breaking behavior in your community, especially in the form of encouragement of violence,” Reddit administrators wrote to the group. Comments considered in violation included jokes around historically violent left-wing populist revolutions, like who goes to the guillotine first.
While Hitler jokes are well understood as vile, there is less consensus on what to do when Stalin is the punchline.
“If you want to kick off ironic Nazis, what do you do with the ironic Maoists and ironic Stalinists?” said Andrew Marantz, author of “Antisocial: Online Extremists, Techno-Utopians, and the Hijacking of the American Conversation.”
After receiving their punishment, Chapo moderators wrote to Reddit frustrated: “Are all references to gulags to be considered violent content?”
What Chapo means to the people who listen
The Chapo show in Iowa City was sold out. A few young men wandered down the line asking if anyone had spare tickets.
“We do everything our parents say, and it doesn’t work,” said Brayson Cope, 18, a college student from Altoona and a Sanders volunteer.
His reason for listening to “Chapo" is simple, he said.
(http://“They’re angry. I like it because they’re angry.”)
A man in a Vets for Bernie shirt listed some of the words that he learned from listening to “Chapo”: Marxist materialist, the superstructure, neoliberal. That last one is the top insult in this group — neoliberal shill, is how it would be phrased. And, according to fans of the podcast and movement, there are a lot of neoliberal shills out there.
For many left-wing groups, the Chapo podcast and its Reddit community are now setting the weekly conversation agenda.
“It’s a touchstone,” said Brendan McGillicuddy, 39, who teaches in the cultural studies department at the University of Minnesota. “At my workplace, everyone listens to it, even if you don’t like it.”
As the show began, the five hosts sat in a half circle, dressed casually.
“I hear you live in your parents’ houses,” Mr. Biederman said.
They dove into a discussion of the caucuses, and polling, and whether the media is fair to Mr. Sanders (they think not).
“Should everything go according to plan on Monday, you will have the opportunity to drive a stake through the heart of every single one of the most insufferable cowards in the world,” Mr. Menaker said.
“I’ve been keeping a list,” Ms. A’Lee Frost said. “Have you been keeping a list?”
There was a case of White Claw, an alcoholic seltzer water, onstage.
When Hillary Clinton’s name came up, the reaction was nearly indistinguishable from a Trump rally.
“Lock her up,” the co-host Matt Christman said to the crowd.
The crowd began to chant: Lock her up. Lock her up.
“She never really cracked the glass ceiling,” Mr. Biederman said. “She more like fell down the glass staircase.”
During the three-hour show, there is little vision laid out for what they want, beyond a Sanders presidency. There is a vision for what they want destroyed and how good it will feel to do that. The idea of actually taking power is terrifying, and they say so.
“What’s scary is the idea that this could end,” Mr. Biederman said. “What’s scary is we’re not just tossing catharsis into the void, that this is something real. We are there.”
The Chapo radicals
When “Chapo Trap House” tried to put on an event in Brooklyn over the summer, the Gowanus Canal, a Superfund site in the middle of a now-trendy neighborhood, flooded and was mixed with a downpour to make a knee-deep, fast-moving, debris-filled river.
Fans held on to one another as they marched through it to get to a live taping. Inside the venue, they sat in folding chairs as water rose at their feet. When the bathrooms began flooding, the manager decided the night was canceled, and fans begrudgingly slushed their way out.
The Chapo co-host Virgil Texas (he lives and works under that pseudonym) went to a nearby bar for a beer.
“It’s a common experience to be someone with a crappy job who does not have an outlet for your set of beliefs and you feel insane because you’re surrounded by liberals or Evangelicals or whatever stultifying milieu,” he said. “And one day you find a piece of media with some folks who are articulating what you always believed: You’re not crazy, you’re right, this is exactly how the world works, and you’re getting screwed.”
He said he knew that the anger the podcast was building could be dangerous, but he said the anger — and the fear of violence it brings — was good.
His girlfriend at the time, who worked in the media, joined at the bar. He ordered popcorn and a coconut cocktail called the painkiller, and sat hunched over, gesticulating rapidly in the tight space between his face and his lap.
“Educating a generation and saddling them with debt and then not giving them jobs where they have the wage that they presume they should receive based on the amount of time they spent on education,” Virgil said. “That’s a pretty good way to turn them into radicals.”
He is a good example of his own target audience: He graduated with $100,000 of debt from Cornell and after college took freelance gigs from Craigslist, hoping to write.
While the Chapo hosts rail against the media establishment, they are also deeply entwined with it and largely beloved by it. (Mr. Menaker, for example, grew up on the Upper West Side, the son of a New York Times editor and a New Yorker editor.)
Their goal is to cut off the right wing of the Democratic Party. The center-left and the center-right are in cahoots, friendly and living near each other in wealthy neighborhoods like the Upper West Side and —
“Westchester,” his girlfriend interjected softly. (She is from there; she wants to stay anonymous; the Chapo fans scare her.)
“No no, I wasn’t going to say Westchester, darling,” he assured her.
He does not want to live in a capitalist society at all.
“I think it’s a moral stain to live in this society,” he said. “And every day I think, God I’d rather just leave.”
But he’s not sure where he would move.
For now, he has decided to go on the road.
Outside the Iowa City show, Adam Angstead, 46, had stepped out of the theater for a cigarette. He works for the Iowa City school district as a substitute teacher five days a week, but he said his employment offers no benefits. On the weekends he works at a diner. Twice a week he sells his blood plasma for extra cash.
It’s still not enough. He was trying to pay down his $40,000 in student loans for a while, but it hardly made a dent, and recently he has gotten a deferment. For him, the primary feels like a life-or-death battle.
“Being in a room with a bunch of people who think the same thing or close made me think we might not all literally die,” he said. “Bernie’s the only one.”
Toward the end of the show, the crowd by then frenzied and a little drunk, periodically broke out in chants of Mr. Sanders’s slogan: Not Me. Us.
And finally, with the Chapo hosts leading, they stood and sang “Solidarity Forever,” the old trade union anthem.
People put their arms around each other and swayed as they screamed.
In our hands is placed a power
Greater than their hoarded gold
We can bring to birth a new world
From the ashes of the old.
:lol @ the nyt not being able to print Cum Town.
https://twitter.com/Juliess31/status/1233605186662391809
Why are Diamond and Silk trending anyway?
From that article, you'd think Chapo going to start carrying tiki torches. :doge
Lies I've played metal gear bro gtfo
GLENN BECK: You can tell by the people [Bernie Sanders] surrounds himself with. Have you looked at that? The self-proclaimed communist. The founders and leaders of antifa, Black Lives Matter, Occupy Wall Street. Yes, the modern versions of the Weather Underground terrorist organization are all on his campaign staff. These are not grassroot groups of Democrats, they are Marxist revolutionaries who believe in nothing short of the complete overthrow of the United States and destruction of the Constitution and the free market system.:yikes
And, please, let us stop calling them Bernie bros. Because they are not my brother. They are not something that is funny. They are Bernie Bolsheviks. They are Bernie Brownshirts. That’s what they are. And their revolution will result in death and misery. Another Holodomor. Or another Holocaust. Or whatever we call the next great socialist atrocity.
This fight is not new. The world has been here before. People like you and me have been battling this for generations. Our fathers and grandfathers, they fought the socialists in Germany and the communists in Russia -- World War II. But in a way, they kind of had it easy. I mean, in their time, the bad guys wore black US, or -- SS uniforms made by Hugo Boss and had little funny mustaches. But our bad guys come off just as crotchety humanity professors whining about “class warfare and how crappy white people treated the Native Americans.”
We have to stop pretending that socialism and its modern prophets are innocent or comedic or sideshows or just another choice, and the ghosts of over 100 million dead victims of Marxist ideology cry out to us in this generation from their blood-soaked graves to remind us this isn’t a joke, this is the fight of our lives. This time it’s our turn. Today is our day. Today is the time. This, as Reagan said, is our point of choosing. We are called upon to carry the cross, dare I say it, of freedom and liberty for one another. For our friends and our neighbors and our kids and our grandkids. For every person that we’ve never even met before who has lived without the blessing of liberty. And for the future generations here, and in Venezuela, and everywhere else who deserve freedom.
Make no mistake, we are at war. And may it forever remain a cold war. But it is a war that has been going on for a long time and the next enemy wave is right here at our gates, they are inside of our gates. And no matter how the media spins this, they’re not harmless grumpy grandpas. They’re not. They’re armed with pipe bombs, Molotov cocktails, and guns. They are here for revolution. The one one of their professors have been telling them is just around the corner. They believe it. They may be armed with rocks and bombs and guns, but we must arm ourselves with the most effective weapon mankind has in its arsenal: Courage and truth.
I love how all these strange bedfellows from the Republican party (Ana Navarro, Bret Stephens, Jennifer Rubin...) that have insisted for four years that Trump cannot be president are staring at the alternative and now shitting their pants :lol So much for Woke Kristol!going to get so much mileage out of this one.
Our fathers and grandfathers, they fought the socialists in Germany and the communists in Russia -- World War II. But in a way, they kind of had it easy.:dead
QuoteOur fathers and grandfathers, they fought the socialists in Germany and the communists in Russia -- World War II. But in a way, they kind of had it easy.:dead
And, please, let us stop calling them Bernie bros. Because they are not my brother.
maintaining that the only legitimate politics are the ones that willfully mortify the passions is the most slavish shit ever, and you inordinately see it from bootlickers already comfortably placed within hegemony.I had to go back and realize you meant slavish instead of Slavish :notlikethis
the reflexive revulsion towards violence/coercion is related, but i have a harder time excavating why exactly its so distasteful to me. i saw a comment thread on reddit yesterday between a paint by the numbers technocratic liberal and a vaguely marxist leftie; they went through the usual bullet points before the centrist signed off with a respectably purplish illustration of the “terrors of marxist regimes” meted out on its subjects. the rhetorical bluster’s just enough to get you to sympathize until you notice that the subjects in question were...gusanos fleeing to florida. now, i’m gonna remain agnostic about how effectively distributed the violence was (idk shit about cuba) but denying that lining up landlords/slaveowners against a wall could ever be justified in principle strikes me as not just ignoble but also historically illiterate.
there’s a line in the intro to a student edition of hobbes i have that’s something to the effect of: the only people who find hobbes’ defense of absolute, arbitrary sovereignty compelling are the ones who’ve lived through war. and that’s probably right. but equally, the centrality to fanon of violence -not just its liberatory potential in boring consequentialist terms, but the therapy it performs on the dispossessed and indigent- shouldn’t be intelligible to someone until they’ve been caged in ostensible peacetime.
They literally had a Black Summit:Why are Diamond and Silk trending anyway?
I saw a photo of them sitting as guests in a Cabinet meeting with Trump-in-Chief, I assume it's recent.
The lady on the rights hat :lawd(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ER3ozMOXUAE6u_B?format=jpg)
FACT CHECK: they also bring up the paradox of tolerance and get Popper's argument wrong because they didn't read it but there's a snarky image they saw on the internet :rageFACT CHECK: A tiki torch was never meant for this and the united federation of Walmarts disavows it's use
edit: THIS ONE
(https://i.redd.it/uedawtfzqbgz.jpg)
Listening to Charlie Kirk talk to Mark Levin::lol :lol :lol link pls i need some humour at work
"Rousseau was the gateway to Marx... and Plato was the gateway to Rousseau."
https://twitter.com/howardfineman/status/1233412073528397824
FACT CHECK: they also bring up the paradox of tolerance and get Popper's argument wrong because they didn't read it but there's a snarky image they saw on the internet :rage
edit: THIS ONE
(https://i.redd.it/uedawtfzqbgz.jpg)
Charlie Kirkhttps://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1234339094437732352
'anal fisting thread'oh weird. why doesnt his one embed? nsfw flags?
https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1234296325224718338 (https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1234296325224718338?s=19)
Man living his life out there
FACT CHECK: they also bring up the paradox of tolerance and get Popper's argument wrong because they didn't read it but there's a snarky image they saw on the internet :rage
edit: THIS ONE
(https://i.redd.it/uedawtfzqbgz.jpg)
I just remembered that Samantha Bee did a segment with him literally called Strange Bedfellows :lawd
https://youtu.be/wuSDfVRGI54
i axed you a question, benji-kun
so what's the actual argument he was making?Popper says to combat intolerance with "rational argument" not the force of law. So the part where the image says intolerance "must be outside of the law" cannot be sourced to the claimed source. The only point in which he says force can be used to combat intolerant forces is when they resort to force/violence/etc. rather than simply intolerant speech.
i axed you a question, benji-kunso what's the actual argument he was making?Popper says to combat intolerance with "rational argument" not the force of law. So the part where the image says intolerance "must be outside of the law" cannot be sourced to the claimed source. The only point in which he says force can be used to combat intolerant forces is when they resort to force/violence/etc. rather than simply intolerant speech.
We can disagree about if Popper successfully solved the dilemma or not but it's arguably not a paradox at all in Open Society, Popper thinks "rational argument" can debunk/shame/defeat intolerant forces, the image is closer to promoting the argument in Marcuse's Repressive Tolerance in which the law is used to preemptively suppress views the state determines to be intolerant.
I think he was one of the Mont Pelerin founders actually.yep. this + the meme takeaways from open society are the only things i know about him politically. like you said hes way more important to phil of science than anything. his readings of historical texts royally pissed off conservative intellectuals at the time, like strauss, who had more skin in the game when it came to the canonTM. again, havent read it, but i also havent ever seen anyone take open society’s readings of plato, hegel, et al. serious outside of like, crank op-ed writers.
https://twitter.com/CBCWorldNews/status/1234772793197318147
https://twitter.com/ChuckWendig/status/1234826884539613186
Just wait for when she endorses Biden.(https://i.imgur.com/AeCR193.png)
fine
https://twitter.com/eric_seufert/status/1233794081903534082
fine
https://twitter.com/eric_seufert/status/1233794081903534082
Marketing science, freemium monetization, & analytics. Owner, @mobiledevmemo
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i like that chapo is helping mobilise the masses, but i stopped listening to their podcast years ago because it's edgelord trash :snobcum town awaits friend :rejoice
i like that chapo is helping mobilise the masses, but i stopped listening to their podcast years ago because it's edgelord trash :snobcum town awaits friend :rejoice
Between this and the mommy warren thing I saw yesterday, some of you need therapy
(https://i.redd.it/c0z19yqsvpk41.png)
https://twitter.com/neekolul/status/1234601269127458817
twitter is currently having a debate on whether this is cringe-y or not cringey (cause she's hot)
what say you, the bore?
https://twitter.com/neekolul/status/1234601269127458817El Presidente Bernie por favor :whoo
twitter is currently having a debate on whether this is cringe-y or not cringey (cause she's hot)
what say you, the bore?
https://twitter.com/neekolul/status/1234601269127458817
twitter is currently having a debate on whether this is cringe-y or not cringey (cause she's hot)
what say you, the bore?
YOU HAD BETTER FUCKING ALLOW IT, MATE (https://i.imgur.com/seoCg9k.jpg)https://twitter.com/neekolul/status/1234601269127458817
twitter is currently having a debate on whether this is cringe-y or not cringey (cause she's hot)
what say you, the bore?
She's cute, so I'll allow it.
poly commies btfo
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EScAZ-6U8AA5KuI?format=jpg&name=small)
Cracks in the road spell M A G A.
Federal Capitol Building represents Trump’s opposition among the Democrats and weak Republicans.
The crowd of American supporters, from all backgrounds proudly wearing their red Make America Great Again hats.
American Flag is a source of light.
Artist paints himself in the painting.
poly commies btfoLooks like Stalin has been working out :obama
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EScAZ-6U8AA5KuI?format=jpg&name=small)
Can the Brain Force Plus user Alex Jones please clown this dummy again? How did this guy think about running for something in Somewhere, California? Just so off the mark in terms of presentation. Like that lady who Benji is obsessed with. You're just bad messengers. Really.
She's been on a few times, they talk about important issues like Gamergate and Gamergate plus Gamergate:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt6wxcEG7nk
poly commies btfoI AM ONCE AGAIN ASKING FOR PREPARATION H
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AYE LMAO(https://i.imgur.com/0pG6BTz.png)
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/conspiracy-theorist-alex-jones-arrested-dwi-texas-69513558
the comments :mynicca
https://twitter.com/tomhfh/status/1234956118566285312
what were stonks like in the dinosaur day? did the stonks crash when the asteroid hit ???
I used to be friends on fb with this australian bloke who was convinced the global elites were trying to force us all to the coastal areas so a giant tsunami could wipe us out. supposedly to make more oil :dogewhat were stonks like in the dinosaur day? did the stonks crash when the asteroid hit ???
Yes, but it was a good day for fossil fuel.
https://twitter.com/MaraGay/status/1237832854991765504how predictable
https://twitter.com/MaraGay/status/1237832854991765504
“You’re a great example of why we need to end Affirmative Action,” someone named Jim B. wrote me in an email this weekend. “Get a job scrubbing floors. It’s the only thing you’re good for.”
On Twitter, it was about the same. “Keep thinking that your important. Lol … your a nobody … you fill a seat … only because your Black. that’s the only reason. cause if was based on education or merit, you would be working at Walmart … sometimes the truth hurts … your a lowlife.”
“Is that you using that black girl magic I heard about. You so silly, can’t believe you have a job there. LOL”
One email read simply, “have a banana.”
These are just a few examples of many.
If I made one of those [political quizzes], it would have a question about college basketball. If you say it's better than the NBA you're racist.
For one thing, he said the government, in a move that would have to be considered “radical,” should stop collecting taxes for now. “Everyone owes the government at all times,” he said. “Everyone in this country — individuals, corporations. That has to be suspended right now so they have more money.”
Cramer also said he fears that several companies in the S&P 500 could go bankrupt within a month due to the economic slowdown caused by the coronavirus outbreak.
“Are we going to sit here and let so many companies go bankrupt because of an illness? I think that is stupid,” he said. “Once we settle that out and stop worrying about money, we can worry about health simultaneously. Right now we can’t do both.”
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1238244061267533825https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Hla7Po8On0
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1238244061267533825
Forza Italia?Surprised?
I was unaware that the folks at pornhub were huge Berlusconi fans.
Bunga Bunga :playa
https://twitter.com/KanielaIng/status/1240379750566129665
IS THE MANAGER HERE
https://twitter.com/IngrahamAngle/status/1240967734319558656
https://twitter.com/IngrahamAngle/status/1241332751359455232
https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1241807123501084672
I'll start worrying when these godless Liberals don't hate what I say.
Lady was like 80 I would have to guess. Never knew there was some kind of stereotype about Japanese people being sneaky.
Must have post-WW2 aged grandparents.
Growing up in the 80s everyone knew this sterotype lol
My Grandpa used to comment on "japs" nearly every time I saw him in some fashion.
???hog fucker really was a plant :mueller
https://twitter.com/davidhogg111/status/1242921757419483139
https://twitter.com/DouglasCarswell/status/1243156638586019841
https://twitter.com/DouglasCarswell/status/1243156638586019841
FACT CHECK: If you think the Roman Republic ended due to the Gracchian reforms, which in itself is a pretty galaxy brain take, it was proto-crony capitalism if anything. :bolo
Not to mention that the leges gracchi didn’t have anything to do with UBI
https://twitter.com/mikeduncan/status/1243181724785356800
https://twitter.com/mikeduncan/status/1243186032763383815
Some other large hospital systems have been discussing issues around do-not-resuscitate orders, The Washington Post reported Wednesday night.
"It's true that there have been discussions abroad about how physicians must prioritize patients -- and it's my understanding that those will still be on a case-by-case basis," Dr. Darria Long Gillespie, senior vice president of clinical strategy at Sharecare and a clinical assistant professor at the University of Tennessee School of Medicine, wrote in an email on Wednesday.
https://twitter.com/CalebJHull/status/1243682256956395520
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1243930272015491074
:brain
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1244085811466899459
Is Brianna Wu trans or just a really ugly woman? Haven't really followed #gamergate
wouldn't trump be the one in charge of shutting things down, controlling information, instituting martial law, and so on
Is Brianna Wu trans or just a really ugly woman? Haven't really followed #gamergate
https://twitter.com/soniagupta504/status/1244758050180935680
:thinking
https://twitter.com/Mark82190251/status/1245092700174659584
Oh man, Obama and Bill Gates would have gotten away with spreading the corona virus if they hadn't accidentally filed a patent for it!
The first name it had was SARS-CoV-2, good job of figuring out google, Bill.virus: SARS-CoV-2
Wow does Bill Mitchell know this
Wow does Bill Mitchell know this
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1245325707162669056
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1245760308230184961
Anthony Fauci is the worst economist ever !
:neogaf
HUGE!
Ashley, in the role of the Riley Reid character, has defied all pornographic convention by embracing body positivity, forgoing plastic surgery and opting for natural body hair at times. Additionally she has made a social statement by doing a popular artistic scene which makes a political and business case for greater transsexual acceptance. Her main tool appears to be a palpable human decency and sweetness coupled to an uncanny ability to assess, manage and survive extreme business risk within a poorly understood industry that has confounded all expectations.
He's one of the early Trump superfans from Twitter.
This thread isn't really about the Intellectual Wank Dad anymore. I'd say shut it down but it soaks up a good number of "look at THIS tweet!" posts which don't really need to get added to the main politix thread.
I want to post more Matt Stoller in here but his takes are so uniquely dumb they make me mad. I think about how much schooling and money went into letting him have a voice and it's very depressing
I think of it as the dumb punditry thread now but there Bill Mitchell stuff is very overdoneyeah they were hilarious at first but now it's just sad and I'm seeing them twice a day. moratorium pls
I think of it as the dumb punditry thread now but there Bill Mitchell stuff is very overdoneyeah they were hilarious at first but now it's just sad and I'm seeing them twice a day. moratorium pls
He's one of those strange creatures of the American radical left* who has created his own ideological niche. As far as I understand he thinks Jeffersonian political economy is a continuous tradition in American history and still relevant in the present day, and he interprets everything through that lens. Marxism, socialism, etc are foreign evils. China is a fascist big bad because they threaten this ideal American system of small scale independent producers. I guess I would call him a nationalist? He doesn't seem to care much about the interests of people in other countries.
Who is this Bill Mitchell and why do you guys keep posting him in every thread?
I guess I would call him a nationalist? He doesn't seem to care much about the interests of people in other countries.just glancing at this guy's feed
Can I interest you in a pamphlet on benjism?
Wait, don't pronounce that, let me come up with a better name first.
Is that supposed to be Bill Gates ? Fauci ?
Is that supposed to be Bill Gates ? Fauci ?
I think it's Fauci. Bill Gates is actually spending potentially billions in order to basically do a guess and check model with a vaccine. Funny the market response to be inefficient in order to hope one thing works.
(https://i.imgur.com/h8tYc4H.jpg)
Is that supposed to be Bill Gates ? Fauci ?
I think it's Fauci.
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1246139220588142593Cannot wait. It will put this thread back on track for a good year and half. Plus the book tour and then probably a resurgence of him giving speeches in auditoriums. Don't disappoint me J Beep.
we back :rejoice
https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1244751704211537921https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WZmSJYYxPk
https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1245180361862152192 (https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1245180361862152192)
bitch you have recent pics of your fatass on twitter :dead
https://twitter.com/mugrimm/status/1246297040138784770The comment scroll here is amazing, also Tulsi's booty :lawd
;)
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1246139220588142593
We Need to Talk About Ezrathe more i hear about this shit the crazier he sounds lmao
fuck yo moratorium
this overrules it
https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/1246812006960726018
CAT FIGHTyour charmed life will come to end now
https://twitter.com/rosemcgowan/status/1247252442812690433
SUPERIOR NORDICS :rethread:piss :swiss :piss2
https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1246631214506823680
https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1246966013771554817
What would you call this? Military Herd immunity? :doge
https://twitter.com/marwilliamson/status/1246990122576478208
Let us try to restore sanity with five questions that we should ask Chinese President Xi Jinping the next time we Zoom, FaceTime, Google Hangout or WeChat him.
Now, I don’t expect straight answers to these questions, any more than we got straight answers from the Soviet Communist Party after Chernobyl.
But I do think we need keep asking them
In Liu Cixin’s extraordinary science-fiction novel The Three-Body Problem, China recklessly creates, then ingeniously solves, an existential threat to humanity, by establishing contact with the planet Trisolaris and then thwarting a Trisolaran invasion.
I remember thinking it was an odd plot structure when I read it last year. This is not how sci-fi plots work in western literature. The bad guys (the Germans, the Russians, the Chinese, or just the aliens) do bad stuff and then the good guys (they speak English) save the world. One of the many things I learnt from reading the novel is that, in this respect as in so many others, China is different. It’s okay for China to sicken the world in order to save it.
QuoteIn Liu Cixin’s extraordinary science-fiction novel The Three-Body Problem, China recklessly creates, then ingeniously solves, an existential threat to humanity, by establishing contact with the planet Trisolaris and then thwarting a Trisolaran invasion.
I remember thinking it was an odd plot structure when I read it last year. This is not how sci-fi plots work in western literature. The bad guys (the Germans, the Russians, the Chinese, or just the aliens) do bad stuff and then the good guys (they speak English) save the world. One of the many things I learnt from reading the novel is that, in this respect as in so many others, China is different. It’s okay for China to sicken the world in order to save it.
he hasn't ever encountered the hubris -> redemption archetype? :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yts2F44RqFw
comparing the pandemic to the finishing move that Uma Thurman's character uses at the end of Kill Bill: Volume 2: "the coronavirus epidemic is a kind of 'Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique' on the global capitalist system."
So it was something of a surprise to learn, in early February, that Peterson had spent eight days in a medically induced coma at an unnamed clinic in Russia. Peterson’s daughter Mikhaila, a 28-year-old food blogger, posted a brief but dramatic video claiming that she and her father had traveled to Russia in early January seeking an unorthodox treatment for his physical dependence on the drug clonazepam. Dependency goes against the core tenets of Peterson’s philosophical brand: stoicism, self-reliance, the power of the will over circumstance and environment. “No one gets away with anything, ever, so take responsibility for your own life,” he admonished in his bestselling self-help book 12 Rules for Life.
According to Mikhaila, he nearly died several times during his medical ordeal. After weeks in intensive care, he was unable to speak or write and was taking anti-seizure medicine.
The picture that emerges is of a man who was trapped: He couldn’t tolerate the medication, and he couldn’t tolerate the withdrawal. Mikhaila told RT that her father was looking for a place that had the guts to detox him “cold turkey,” a place where doctors “aren’t influenced by the pharmaceutical companies.”
Apparently that’s how a man who didn’t want to use drugs traveled thousands of miles to be placed in a drug-induced coma. Mikhaila said that her father was diagnosed with pneumonia “upon arrival” in Russia. If that’s accurate, then his medically induced coma may have had nothing to do with benzodiazepine withdrawal. If pneumonia is so severe that it causes respiratory failure, the patient needs to go on a ventilator simply to breathe. Because it’s so unpleasant to be on a breathing machine in an intensive care unit, patients are usually heavily sedated.
rollMarianne :klob
https://twitter.com/conspiracystuf2/status/1247716911326072833
https://newrepublic.com/article/156829/happened-jordan-petersonQuoteSo it was something of a surprise to learn, in early February, that Peterson had spent eight days in a medically induced coma at an unnamed clinic in Russia. Peterson’s daughter Mikhaila, a 28-year-old food blogger, posted a brief but dramatic video claiming that she and her father had traveled to Russia in early January seeking an unorthodox treatment for his physical dependence on the drug clonazepam. Dependency goes against the core tenets of Peterson’s philosophical brand: stoicism, self-reliance, the power of the will over circumstance and environment. “No one gets away with anything, ever, so take responsibility for your own life,” he admonished in his bestselling self-help book 12 Rules for Life.QuoteAccording to Mikhaila, he nearly died several times during his medical ordeal. After weeks in intensive care, he was unable to speak or write and was taking anti-seizure medicine.QuoteThe picture that emerges is of a man who was trapped: He couldn’t tolerate the medication, and he couldn’t tolerate the withdrawal. Mikhaila told RT that her father was looking for a place that had the guts to detox him “cold turkey,” a place where doctors “aren’t influenced by the pharmaceutical companies.”
Apparently that’s how a man who didn’t want to use drugs traveled thousands of miles to be placed in a drug-induced coma. Mikhaila said that her father was diagnosed with pneumonia “upon arrival” in Russia. If that’s accurate, then his medically induced coma may have had nothing to do with benzodiazepine withdrawal. If pneumonia is so severe that it causes respiratory failure, the patient needs to go on a ventilator simply to breathe. Because it’s so unpleasant to be on a breathing machine in an intensive care unit, patients are usually heavily sedated.
Eh, pulling quotes out is boring. See the link for yourself.
What if Jorp had the 'rona
I don't know who this is but we vibingdidn't she write that epic bottomless mozzarella sticks story on Gawker?
Holy shit Stephen Harper and Mike Row make videos for them? WTF.https://soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/episode-64-mike-rowes-koch-backed-working-man-affectation
House 6, Lauren Chen is hot as fuck. Would choke out Ben in the first 5 mins though
https://newrepublic.com/article/156829/happened-jordan-petersonQuoteSo it was something of a surprise to learn, in early February, that Peterson had spent eight days in a medically induced coma at an unnamed clinic in Russia. Peterson’s daughter Mikhaila, a 28-year-old food blogger, posted a brief but dramatic video claiming that she and her father had traveled to Russia in early January seeking an unorthodox treatment for his physical dependence on the drug clonazepam. Dependency goes against the core tenets of Peterson’s philosophical brand: stoicism, self-reliance, the power of the will over circumstance and environment. “No one gets away with anything, ever, so take responsibility for your own life,” he admonished in his bestselling self-help book 12 Rules for Life.QuoteAccording to Mikhaila, he nearly died several times during his medical ordeal. After weeks in intensive care, he was unable to speak or write and was taking anti-seizure medicine.QuoteThe picture that emerges is of a man who was trapped: He couldn’t tolerate the medication, and he couldn’t tolerate the withdrawal. Mikhaila told RT that her father was looking for a place that had the guts to detox him “cold turkey,” a place where doctors “aren’t influenced by the pharmaceutical companies.”
Apparently that’s how a man who didn’t want to use drugs traveled thousands of miles to be placed in a drug-induced coma. Mikhaila said that her father was diagnosed with pneumonia “upon arrival” in Russia. If that’s accurate, then his medically induced coma may have had nothing to do with benzodiazepine withdrawal. If pneumonia is so severe that it causes respiratory failure, the patient needs to go on a ventilator simply to breathe. Because it’s so unpleasant to be on a breathing machine in an intensive care unit, patients are usually heavily sedated.
Eh, pulling quotes out is boring. See the link for yourself.
wrong thread but happy easter
roll
https://twitter.com/conspiracystuf2/status/1247716911326072833
Where is Virgil Texas? :lolnow that the china virus is in full effect and his mission is complete he's been recalled back home ;)
https://twitter.com/JeremyDBoreing/status/1249708928088174592
Where is Virgil Texas? :lol
wasn't sure if (future co-president) mcafee is a wank dad or politician but either way...gottem
https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1249721693721055237
https://twitter.com/dpakman/status/1249878532081233920not sure if he's serious or playing his smarmy games, but he's kinda like this, he folds like merengue when he senses the winds changing
:dead
wasn't sure if (future co-president) mcafee is a wank dad or politician but either way...gottemI made that joke a messagboard some years ago and was sure it wasn't original then ::) might have been here :doge
https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1249721693721055237
*youtube clip of Bro Jogan*
https://twitter.com/dpakman/status/1249878532081233920not sure if he's serious or playing his smarmy games, but he's kinda like this, he folds like merengue when he senses the winds changing
:dead
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https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/g08hna/joe_rogan_explains_post_nut_syndrome_taken_from/*youtube clip of Bro Jogan*
Thank you so much for this. Haven't laughed this hard since the quarantine started. Bravo :clap
He said a few months ago he'd vote Biden if the Bernie thing goes south, so it's not a specific issue, but over the course of knowing of him and watching his shows he's been a bit fence sitty and flippity flop from the start.https://twitter.com/dpakman/status/1249878532081233920not sure if he's serious or playing his smarmy games, but he's kinda like this, he folds like merengue when he senses the winds changing
:dead
i'm not seeing the issue? has pakman said previously he was a bernie or bust guy? i never thought that was the case
what's chapo's deal anyway? have never interacted by any of their media and i see them brought up alot
So...she's posting her videos on his social media and responding to questions for him? He never made it out of Russia, did he?
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1251131138732670982
What do we do?
This is the only source for this I found right away:
:dead
The story begins nearly 100 years ago, in 1913, when the government of China began issuing bonds to foreign investors and governments for infrastructure work to modernize the country. As the country fell into civil war in 1927, paying these debts became increasingly difficult and the government fell into default. Even so, in April 1938, the Nationalist government of China began to issue U.S.-dollar denominated bonds to finance the war against Japan's brutal invasion.So we just need someone who holds these debt instruments to sue Taiwan in a Chinese court?
Locked in a pitched battle for survival, the government issued these bonds into 1940. As part of its wartime financial aid, the U.S. government further provided a $500 million credit to China in March 1942, shipping gold there and helping to stabilize the currency. In return, it appears that the U.S. government redeemed some of these dollar-denominated bonds. But China doesn't appear to have repaid this debt either, according to State Department records, and the declaration of the People's Republic of China in 1949 ended decades of political, military and financial cooperation.
While successor governments are usually bound by the debts of predecessor governments, the new Communist government refused to pay any of these claims. The issue lay dormant for decades, just as the bilateral relationship did. Then, in 1979, as part of normalizing relations, Washington released government financial claims regarding the expropriation of American property and appears to have dropped the matter of the war debt entirely. However, it is one thing for government decision-makers to let go of government debt, however questionable that is.
And it is entirely another thing for individual citizens to press their claims.
Some U.S. investors tried to sue the Chinese government in the 1980s and 1990s. However, the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act makes it very hard for any U.S. citizen to sue a foreign government in U.S. courts because the law generally says that U.S. courts do not have jurisdiction.
Further, in Taiwanese press accounts Chinese officials have indicated, in fact, that they might pay the United States -- as part of a negotiation over the final status of Taiwan.oh I see...
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1251183147796123648speaking of sad irredeemable people, for real what is this guys thing with women giving birth, is there some weird pornhub trend I'm unaware of?
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1251183147796123648speaking of sad irredeemable people, for real what is this guys thing with women giving birth, is there some weird pornhub trend I'm unaware of?
Varg's daughters will be fucking black dudes, arabs and romas for fucking sho. That shit is inevitable and I can't wait till his melt down.he's going to kill a bunch of brown folk if this happens :(
Varg's daughters will be fucking black dudes, arabs and romas for fucking sho. That shit is inevitable and I can't wait till his melt down.he's going to kill a bunch of brown folk if this happens :(
I wonder if he could take a Roma in a knife fight. He does have a confirmed kill, but Romas probably have 40 unreported mercings :gopnikVarg's daughters will be fucking black dudes, arabs and romas for fucking sho. That shit is inevitable and I can't wait till his melt down.he's going to kill a bunch of brown folk if this happens :(
Don't worry, his daughters will kill him in retaliation and thus the circle closes.
that stoller guy sounds familiar but what exactly is his deal?https://twitter.com/matthewstoller/status/1251883112625311746
Varg's daughters will be fucking black dudes, arabs and romas for fucking sho. That shit is inevitable and I can't wait till his melt down.:drool
Stoller hates commies, he wants us to live like Thomas Jefferson (minus the slaves presumably)
https://twitter.com/AriFleischer/status/1251989429046120454
he's somehow a nazi libertarian blendhe actually was a full blown anarchist for the most part, he gave up the anarchism and embraced the powerful state because anarchism has no plan for ensuring white dominance
if you append "white" where needed things will click, for instance, (white) women eggs and reduce (white) abortions
of course it is only women who need to be restricted! (white) men get libertarianism
Bob is likely the saddest most irredeemable person I've ever come across in my many years of websiting as on the internetMy favorite part about Film Robert maybe. He didn't get a green screen or sheet. No, he painted his "basement apartment" wall green. And then he painted the doorknob because someone pointed out it was appearing in his videos.
https://twitter.com/JRubinBlogger/status/1252012223435886593 (https://twitter.com/JRubinBlogger/status/1252012223435886593)
Star basketball player when I was in highschool was this huge black guy we called Black Mamba. It was definitely a joke about his dick even though we didn't tell the teachers that. ...I can't remember his real name.
wankceptiongalaxy brain
https://twitter.com/BobChipman_1981/status/1251878231189438466
14 doesnt sound too wrong if you read it out of context enough :idontI know we all love our bromides about the quintessential career politician being nothing but an empty suit but you have to have a leviathan ego to say you're the only guy in the whole party who's ever read a book. Or can think thoughts
14 doesnt sound too wrong if you read it out of context enough :idontI know we all love our bromides about the quintessential career politician being nothing but an empty suit but you have to have a leviathan ego to say you're the only guy in the whole party who's ever read a book. Or can think thoughts
I know we all love our bromides about the quintessential career politician being nothing but an empty suit but you have to have a leviathan ego to say you're the only guy in the whole party who's ever read a book.yes. i dont think most congresspeople give a shit about the fixtures of the intellectual sphere, though. using the term intellectual really broadly to include even matt stoller
Or can think thoughtsi wouldnt’ve thought that ‘liberal politicians are thinking uncritically/incorrectly about xyz’ would be a hard sell for you. thats true but the tweet’s obv still wrong about it being of first importance.
found a new gem account
https://twitter.com/Education4Libs/status/1250566490014834688
A malaria drug widely touted by President Donald Trump for treating the new coronavirus showed no benefit in a large analysis of its use in U.S. veterans hospitals. There were more deaths among those given hydroxychloroquine versus standard care, researchers reported.
14 doesnt sound too wrong if you read it out of context enough :idontI know we all love our bromides about the quintessential career politician being nothing but an empty suit but you have to have a leviathan ego to say you're the only guy in the whole party who's ever read a book. Or can think thoughts
I think it's pretty great that a guy who gets mocked on the internet for having dumb takes that are a result of an overpriced education and a willingness to "think outside the box" is suggesting that people with actual power do the same.
So is Jordan Peterson dead or what?
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1253400923637940224
France's restaurant workers are unionized because of all of the Olive Gardens in Paris.
Different Places Have Different Safety Rules and That’s OK
Bangladesh may or may not need tougher workplace safety rules, but it’s entirely appropriate for Bangladesh to have different—and, indeed, lower—workplace safety standards than the United States.
The reason is that while having a safe job is good, money is also good. Jobs that are unusually dangerous—in the contemporary United States that’s primarily fishing, logging, and trucking—pay a premium over other working-class occupations precisely because people are reluctant to risk death or maiming at work. And in a free society it’s good that different people are able to make different choices on the risk–reward spectrum.
France's restaurant workers are unionized because of all of the Olive Gardens in Paris.
Anecdotally, it's true you'll hear more often of union pickets in front of a Paris McDonald's. Probably because of the larger staff in any location than in regular restaurants. Overall, I'm not certain what unions managed to extract but it was certainly not enough to make a position there suddenly better than in any small business restaurant even with the non-negligible risk of having an extra abusive and exploitative boss.
https://twitter.com/BronzeHammer/status/1253424744746979330
:whatQuoteDifferent Places Have Different Safety Rules and That’s OK
Bangladesh may or may not need tougher workplace safety rules, but it’s entirely appropriate for Bangladesh to have different—and, indeed, lower—workplace safety standards than the United States.
The reason is that while having a safe job is good, money is also good. Jobs that are unusually dangerous—in the contemporary United States that’s primarily fishing, logging, and trucking—pay a premium over other working-class occupations precisely because people are reluctant to risk death or maiming at work. And in a free society it’s good that different people are able to make different choices on the risk–reward spectrum.
:yikes
https://slate.com/business/2013/04/international-factory-safety.html (https://slate.com/business/2013/04/international-factory-safety.html)
The current system of letting different countries have different rules is working fine. American jobs have gotten much safer over the past 20 years, and Bangladesh has gotten a lot richer.
https://twitter.com/SovietPostingAI/status/1253041585874448385
https://twitter.com/gwensnyderPHL/status/1234539015627509761e: went through the whole thing. she’s actually cool and good
curious how you have the dedication to write a 119 tweet thread about a subject but won't listen to any of the freely available episodes of it
she’s actually cool and good
https://twitter.com/TrueAnonPod/status/1253474732080414720well thats probably the quickest expiration date on a post ive ever had
what doesn't kill me will only put me in a medically induced coma in russia
curious how you have the dedication to write a 119 tweet thread about a subject but won't listen to any of the freely available episodes of it
im coming back around on it. shes pretty obviously a true believer and has done a shitload of great work. the long thread is mostly her experience getting railroaded by grifters -almost exclusively men- during occupy until the movement ran out of steam; which, you know, did actually happen. because of that, shes prima facie skeptical of white men getting involved in organizing when theres obvious opportunity for self promotion. she might be just a smidge too skeptical, but not to an extent that seems unreasonable to me.curious how you have the dedication to write a 119 tweet thread about a subject but won't listen to any of the freely available episodes of it
just spend 30 minutes trying to Get To The Bottom of This when I could have been watching Korean boomers play starcraft
Seen Krystal Ball come up on the Bore a few times, but have we ever talked about this?I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Are you suggesting that she work for free?
https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/expenditures.php?cycle=2018&cmte=C00639997
The name Krystal came from her father [Edward Ball], a physicist who wrote his dissertation on crystals.
I think he was just a big fan of star fox adventures :dogeQuoteThe name Krystal came from her father [Edward Ball], a physicist who wrote his dissertation on crystals.
Could be worth investigating thisAll orchestras are now ordered to play 4′33″ non-stop, and all residents are required to attend.
Episode 935 Scott Adams: Talking Questions About Clorox and Lysol
- Democrats STILL believe the news is real (yes, I’m serious)
- Words aren’t meant to be taken literally
Episode 934 Scott Adams: Learn the True Story About Wuhan, What pairs Well With Fish Tank Cleaner?
- CNN pretending (or believes) the Clorox HOAX
- How dumb does CNN think their viewers are?
Episode 933 Scott Adams: Let’s Have a Laugh About the National IQ Test That Half of the Public is Failing
- Nobody said anyone should drink or inject bleach or isopropyl
https://twitter.com/ernestofaraujo/status/1252811093405122566https://twitter.com/faiscajuventude/status/1253002537873137666
https://twitter.com/DarkSideOfRing/status/1253097305403797504
Posting this in the wank dad thread since I'm sure this is somebody's fetish. :doge
Dean Cain?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWpRv9PWoAMKOAz?format=jpg&name=small)That's a Dave Ruben quote yeah? I dont see what's wrong with it breh :doge
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWpRv9PWoAMKOAz?format=jpg&name=small)That's a Dave Ruben quote yeah? I dont see what's wrong with it breh :doge
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs_mDpIkUOY
3 full hours of on brand Wank for me :aah
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWpRv9PWoAMKOAz?format=jpg&name=small)That's a Dave Ruben quote yeah? I dont see what's wrong with it breh :doge
you think ben shapiro - let me reiterate, BEN FUCKING SHAPIRO - has no problem with lgbt people getting civil rights?
my man, his position on this is clear as as snail guts, he thinks you're the devil but he won't stop you and doesn't want government involved. There's a lot of things to go after him for, the fact that he thinks you're the devil is one, but trying to block your rights isn't one.(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWpRv9PWoAMKOAz?format=jpg&name=small)That's a Dave Ruben quote yeah? I dont see what's wrong with it breh :doge
you think ben shapiro - let me reiterate, BEN FUCKING SHAPIRO - has no problem with lgbt people getting civil rights?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWpRv9PWoAMKOAz?format=jpg&name=small)That's a Dave Ruben quote yeah? I dont see what's wrong with it breh :doge
you think ben shapiro - let me reiterate, BEN FUCKING SHAPIRO - has no problem with lgbt people getting civil rights?
Presumably Shapiro is OK with it. But he's not OK in government "intervening" in marriage and "subdiziding" it. Which basically hollows civil marriage altogether, I'd assume ? Oh and that baker doesn't have to service you. He also thinks you're a sinner. Plus he won't come to your gay wedding (edit : Anniversary party in the exact quote... Same difference) even if you extend an invitation despite working for him and him pretending to have a cordial work relationship with you. He's OK with it to the extent he won't go out of his way to stone you.
my man, his position on this is clear as as snail guts, he thinks you're the devil but he won't stop you and doesn't want government involved. There's a lot of things to go after him for, the fact that he thinks you're the devil is one, but trying to block your rights isn't one.(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWpRv9PWoAMKOAz?format=jpg&name=small)That's a Dave Ruben quote yeah? I dont see what's wrong with it breh :doge
you think ben shapiro - let me reiterate, BEN FUCKING SHAPIRO - has no problem with lgbt people getting civil rights?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWpRv9PWoAMKOAz?format=jpg&name=small)That's a Dave Ruben quote yeah? I dont see what's wrong with it breh :doge
you think ben shapiro - let me reiterate, BEN FUCKING SHAPIRO - has no problem with lgbt people getting civil rights?
Presumably Shapiro is OK with it. But he's not OK in government "intervening" in marriage and "subdiziding" it. Which basically hollows civil marriage altogether, I'd assume ? Oh and that baker doesn't have to service you. He also thinks you're a sinner. Plus he won't come to your gay wedding (edit : Anniversary party in the exact quote... Same difference) even if you extend an invitation despite working for him and him pretending to have a cordial work relationship with you. He's OK with it to the extent he won't go out of his way to stone you.
him being okay with gay people as long as the government isn't involved is kind of an important detail, isn't it?
https://twitter.com/ChipmanOut/status/1248455588138254336Bob out of context - funny. Bob with context - nightmare fuel
if laws weren't backed by government violence we'd all be fucked lmao(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWpRv9PWoAMKOAz?format=jpg&name=small)That's a Dave Ruben quote yeah? I dont see what's wrong with it breh :doge
you think ben shapiro - let me reiterate, BEN FUCKING SHAPIRO - has no problem with lgbt people getting civil rights?
Presumably Shapiro is OK with it. But he's not OK in government "intervening" in marriage and "subdiziding" it. Which basically hollows civil marriage altogether, I'd assume ? Oh and that baker doesn't have to service you. He also thinks you're a sinner. Plus he won't come to your gay wedding (edit : Anniversary party in the exact quote... Same difference) even if you extend an invitation despite working for him and him pretending to have a cordial work relationship with you. He's OK with it to the extent he won't go out of his way to stone you.
him being okay with gay people as long as the government isn't involved is kind of an important detail, isn't it?
I thought it was pretty clear that "presumably OK... [lists of caveats] won't go out of his way to stone you" mean I don't put much stock to how far that tolerance goes. To be fair he's pretty straightforward about it, it's more Rubin that have trouble processing being told the bare faced truth to his face. Shaps won't even attend a marriage between people of differents faiths.
It depends on how convinced one is that in a libertarian fantasy you won't get fucked out of rights even without public backing.
My man I didn't say he doesn't care, he obviously does, I'm saying he's not out there campaigning for laws to stop gay marriage.
What was your problem with the quote anyway, that Shapiro is a liar and a fraud? (I'll back you on that) or do you have an issue even if everything said in the quote is true? you're on your own there as in general that's how I wish people handled differences.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWpRv9PWoAMKOAz?format=jpg&name=small)That's a Dave Ruben quote yeah? I dont see what's wrong with it breh :doge
you think ben shapiro - let me reiterate, BEN FUCKING SHAPIRO - has no problem with lgbt people getting civil rights?
Presumably Shapiro is OK with it. But he's not OK in government "intervening" in marriage and "subdiziding" it. Which basically hollows civil marriage altogether, I'd assume ? Oh and that baker doesn't have to service you. He also thinks you're a sinner. Plus he won't come to your gay wedding (edit : Anniversary party in the exact quote... Same difference) even if you extend an invitation despite working for him and him pretending to have a cordial work relationship with you. He's OK with it to the extent he won't go out of his way to stone you.
him being okay with gay people as long as the government isn't involved is kind of an important detail, isn't it?
I thought it was pretty clear that "presumably OK... [lists of caveats] won't go out of his way to stone you" mean I don't put much stock to how far that tolerance goes.
To be fair he's pretty straightforward about it, it's more Rubin that have trouble processing being told the bare faced truth to his face. Shaps won't even attend a marriage between people of differents faiths.
It depends on how convinced one is that in a libertarian fantasy you won't get fucked out of rights even without public backing.
like alex jones said, lets pray for ben shapiro to find christSo he can crucify him a second time?
:tocry
i disagree with that, actually. i mean, he's straightforward when discussing it on the religious front, but he's a slippery little toad when it comes ot the legal area.
https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1254860389256278018 (https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1254860389256278018)more for me, I'll inject one in my left buttcheeck on you Candace :playa
:lol
what's ben's view on having a BBC bull for his wife?
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1255133190206787584
:rofl
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1255133190206787584have you seen that weird hour long video with the press and two doctors trying to say the economy should be reopened? There's this unintentionally hilarious moment where one doctor is like our services are cheap only $200 give money please :dead
:rofl
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWpRv9PWoAMKOAz?format=jpg&name=small)That's a Dave Ruben quote yeah? I dont see what's wrong with it breh :doge
Chairman Daou has spoken.
https://mobile.twitter.com/peterdaou/status/1255284698860924928
It's like being friends with people of rival football teams. You misunderstand I dont believe they are friends, they at best appear to be generally political allies. The stated way of dealing with fundamental disagreement, even if faux is something I wish more people would adopt.(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWpRv9PWoAMKOAz?format=jpg&name=small)That's a Dave Ruben quote yeah? I dont see what's wrong with it breh :doge
I agree, it's good to have a wide variety of friends. Friends who feel you'll burn for eternity and have a sinful soul doomed for damnation can really bring up an oft-neglected side to an issue.
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1255133190206787584
:rofl
His gofundme is so sad, only 15k since January.
I mean certain opinions aren't deserving of being respected or tolerated as a minor character flaw.Ben Shapiro has more than just minor character flaws. I think where we're at now if religious people can stop using religion as a reason to infringe upon other's rights that's great. Theism isnt going away anytime soon and if I have to live with people who hold these views that's my minimum requirement.
We're about 99% similar there, 1% difference is I get the impression you'd continue to engage with people holding shitty opinions when they pass the minimum threshold I mentioned? For me i'll just never bring up the topic again if it's someone I have to deal with, unless they slide back into trying to stop people having a life, which admittedly is easy with the state of our churches. If they become better people somewhere in the future cool, otherwise not going to waste time on them.:bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow2 :bow2 :bow2 :bow2 :bow2 :bow2
My favorite cousin got married late last year I really, really adore her, however the church they got married at had a sermon before the ceremony and I was like okay I'll deal with this for my cousin. The priest then went on a tirade about how in the eyes of God marriage is for a man and a woman and not a man and a man. I looked at my brother and we both walked outside during this tirade, he had a smoke and I took a bunch of pictures of the church, geotagged and put it up on my Instagram with gay flags and tagged the church's insta (when did this become a thing). Fuck those losers.
Your loss. Canada could benefit from the perfect all year long weather in Hawaii.
Your loss. Canada could benefit from the perfect all year long weather in Hawaii.
no one wants to take custody of 330 million am*ricans
Ya also the NHS has done a study that on average casualties are losing 10 years of life expectancy IRC.
Has Jerry Seinfeld ever done anything to gain him wank status? I saw a hilarious post about him becoming Joe Rogan's Luigi somewhere earlier and wanted to find and post it.
(https://i.imgur.com/roGFI05.jpg)
https://twitter.com/randygdub/status/1256379613229363201
https://twitter.com/randygdub/status/1256379613229363201
Declaring Coronavirus skepticism a form of wank daddery
Declaring Coronavirus skepticism a form of wank daddery
Wholeheartedly endorsed.
COVID19 truthers are a lot closer to the spirit of the IDW and its dopey autodidacticism than the openly partisan commentators the thread's been dunking on since Admiral Peterson's fleet was scattered at the Battle of the Benzos.
thought about posting some NRx wank in here but I am legit concerned about it's ability to melt the brains of people who love internet or need theoretical justifications for why WH40K will be real.
whats this dudes story is he just a clown 24/7?
I think we should follow the butterfly effect:Radioactive hurricanes :lawd
The nuke to the hurricane could have prevented COVID.
Is it tho ? Some of the greatest wank dads certainly leaned on PUA shit, there's obviously some overlap here.
"coordinated campaign to wreck our reviews"
shows the average is still four stars
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1257419716194381824Either that or he needs to be in top shape for his new job as *checks notes* FBI Director.
Not that I would expect him to change his mind... But did Bill catch the Rona ?spoiler (click to show/hide)Probably not but maybe an actual doctor will educate him while there.[close]
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1257419716194381824https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1257426398442074118
Not that I would expect him to change his mind... But did Bill catch the Rona ?spoiler (click to show/hide)Probably not but maybe an actual doctor will educate him while there.[close]
that dude is really something else
https://twitter.com/alpharivelino/status/1257147691961929728
man cant help but wank on his death bed ::)
https://twitter.com/PawnH4/status/1257368196908228609
:wag
Annihilated :lolsandman's wife is a wank mom? :doge
https://twitter.com/buttpraxis/status/1257368709750050823
A growing number of Americans want to tear down what it’s taken us 250 years to build—and they’ll start by canceling our shared history, ideals, and culture.Step One: Disintergrationism
Traditional areas of civic agreement are vanishing. We can’t agree on what makes America special. We can’t even agree that America is special. We’re coming to the point that we can’t even agree what the word America itself means. “Disintegrationists” say we’re stronger together, but their assault on America’s history, philosophy, and culture will only tear us apart.
Who are the disintegrationists? From Howard Zinn’s A People’s History of the United States to the New York Times’ 1619 project, many modern analyses view American history through the lens of competing oppressions, a racist and corrupt experiment from the very beginning. They see American philosophy as a lie – beautiful words pasted over a thoroughly rotted system. They see America’s culture of rights as a façade that merely reinforces traditional hierarchies of power.
Disintegrationist attacks on the values that built our nation are insidious because they replace each foundational belief, from the rights to free speech and self-defense to the importance of marriage and faith communities, with nothing more than an increased reliance on the government.
This twisted disintegrationist vision replaces the traditional “unionist” understanding that all Americans are united in a shared striving toward the perfection of universal ideals.
How to Destroy America in Three Easy Steps shows that to be a cohesive nation we have to uphold foundational truths about ourselves, our history, and reality itself—to be unionists instead of disintegrationists. Shapiro offers a vital warning that if we don’t recover these shared truths, our future—our union—as a great country is threatened with destruction.
i dunno who the broad is but did they go to an NZ corona bunker? neil pls :-\ :lol
the know your enemy guys just did an episode where they get asked which conservative thinker would they say knows the left the best and the ex-conservative confesses that the only leftward thinkers the right ever mentioned were chomsky and zinn. like, if they werent on a barnes and noble shelf, they didnt exist.Quotesnip
She's a musician-singer that do "dark cabaret" so basically snob goth.:beli
They are somewhat of a power geek couple ( >:( ).:trash
QuoteA growing number of Americans want to tear down what it’s taken us 250 years to build—and they’ll start by canceling our shared history, ideals, and culture.Step One: Disintergrationism
Traditional areas of civic agreement are vanishing. We can’t agree on what makes America special. We can’t even agree that America is special. We’re coming to the point that we can’t even agree what the word America itself means. “Disintegrationists” say we’re stronger together, but their assault on America’s history, philosophy, and culture will only tear us apart.
Who are the disintegrationists? From Howard Zinn’s A People’s History of the United States to the New York Times’ 1619 project, many modern analyses view American history through the lens of competing oppressions, a racist and corrupt experiment from the very beginning. They see American philosophy as a lie – beautiful words pasted over a thoroughly rotted system. They see America’s culture of rights as a façade that merely reinforces traditional hierarchies of power.
Disintegrationist attacks on the values that built our nation are insidious because they replace each foundational belief, from the rights to free speech and self-defense to the importance of marriage and faith communities, with nothing more than an increased reliance on the government.
This twisted disintegrationist vision replaces the traditional “unionist” understanding that all Americans are united in a shared striving toward the perfection of universal ideals.
How to Destroy America in Three Easy Steps shows that to be a cohesive nation we have to uphold foundational truths about ourselves, our history, and reality itself—to be unionists instead of disintegrationists. Shapiro offers a vital warning that if we don’t recover these shared truths, our future—our union—as a great country is threatened with destruction.
Step Two: ?
Step Three: Profit
i dunno who the broad is but did they go to an NZ corona bunker? neil pls :-\ :lol
She's a musician-singer that do "dark cabaret" so basically snob goth. They are somewhat of a power geek couple ( >:( ). I don't mind it (her first albums, I guess, I wasn't the one in the couple listening to it) but I know she's divisive. That patron post is pretty bad.
Who are the disintegrationists? From Howard Zinn’s A People’s History of the United States to the New York Times’ 1619 project, many modern analyses view American history through the lens of competing oppressions, a racist and corrupt experiment from the very beginning. They see American philosophy as a lie – beautiful words pasted over a thoroughly rotted system. They see America’s culture of rights as a façade that merely reinforces traditional hierarchies of power.
thought about posting some NRx wank in here but I am legit concerned about it's ability to melt the brains of people who love internet or need theoretical justifications for why WH40K will be real.
man cant help but wank on his death bed ::)
Just want to clarify that I am the victim here. Also, Land is so much more fun when you don’t even try to parse theory from fictionthought about posting some NRx wank in here but I am legit concerned about it's ability to melt the brains of people who love internet or need theoretical justifications for why WH40K will be real.
I recently reread The Dark Enlightenment Manifesto actually because Crash Dummy is forcing me to force us both read early Nick Land and I think the thing that sticks out the most to me is the completely shit-for-brains understanding of economics underlying so much of it, even by marginalist standards. Lots of references to "kicking the can down the road", hard currency goldbug quackery - hardly the incisive critique of progress it claims to be. After chatting with him for like fifteen minutes I can confirm Curtis Yarvin is indeed also that dumb.
The other thing that sticks out to me is that "all politics in interracial countries becomes racialized" does a lot of heavy lifting which probably comes naturally to a quasi-schizoid white guy from the UK but as someone from California it just makes me lol
The staunch Trump supporter is known for being a 'political prodigy'
An earlier version of the hastily-written website read: 'People have watched in real time on Instagram as Jacob Wohl has achieved a stunning physique and incredible strenght [sic] gains in just 100 days. Now the exact fitness and diet plan the [sic] he follows is available to you.'
https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/1257649707947606018
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1257614854053126144Why isn't he taking Hydroxychloroquine who knows it might just help what the hell does he have to lose doesn't he support the President?
check back in a year when bill checks himself into rehab for a xanny addiction
How the fuck did DSP get away with this bankruptcy scam :) :neogaf
for a brief moment today I felt some genuine respect for the lengths this guy would go to for the grift. A brief moment :deadHow the fuck did DSP get away with this bankruptcy scam :) :neogaf
He can’t keep getting away with it! :dsp
for a brief moment today I felt some genuine respect for the lengths this guy would go to for the grift. A brief moment :deadHow the fuck did DSP get away with this bankruptcy scam :) :neogaf
He can’t keep getting away with it! :dsp
https://twitter.com/MMFlint/status/1252583111621144576meant to respond to this when it was posted... one of the tranches of this film is that biofuel isn't actually green energy, which is really misleading and oversimplified. Biofuel is carbon neutral if the net biomass harvested = the net biomass produced because growth recaptures the carbon in the air. In some places we aren't planting fast enough for that to be true yet, but in some places we are. It is a component of a climate change strategy.
Oh that's my wank bae from earlier, cool.
she's citing 100k deaths over two years to the hong kong flu vs 76k in like two months. so either disingenuous or distinguished mentally-challenged fellowed
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:doge
DR: ‘Because that’s so right, and it’s so interesting, because I’m writing my book too and I’m not gonna steal “factory settings” obviously-‘
Annihilated :lolsandman's wife is a wank mom? :doge
https://twitter.com/buttpraxis/status/1257368709750050823
https://twitter.com/buttpraxis/status/1257368758420733952
https://twitter.com/elbusyo/status/1259223069274431489Annihilated :lolsandman's wife is a wank mom? :doge
https://twitter.com/buttpraxis/status/1257368709750050823
https://twitter.com/buttpraxis/status/1257368758420733952
https://twitter.com/elbusyo/status/1259162516598345728
Couldn't you just... Speak of that like human beings ?
(https://i.imgur.com/G4RQSDm.jpg)Roger deserves freedom, even 50 cent called on Trump to pardon him.
:supergay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRBsaJPkt2Q
https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1259659035076202496Your queen looks shell shocked filler, what did you do?
https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1259532067575980033
:heart :heart :heart
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https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1259659035076202496Your queen looks shell shocked filler, what did you do?
https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1259532067575980033
:heart :heart :heart
*video*Fuck that's a lot of wankery.
Ethics of Capitalism (Ben Burgis VS Stefan Molyneux Debate)
2 hours!
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Lol I hope they hire back that dorkI'm surprised a diversity program for what would mainly be developers doesn't work.
https://twitter.com/aprilaser/status/1260648803989774336
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1261395346615226368
:rollsafe
https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1261351775698694147
:stahp
Also found on Something Awful this burger analogy for Bitcoin mining :lolQuotelook, it's simple. you have a Happy Burger brand fast food establishment, and sometimes kids come in and want their Happy Burger brand Happy Kiddy Burger, which according to the Happy Burger brand franchise operating instructions is supposed to be 4oz of usda utility grade hamburger lightly grilled and pressed into a poppy seed bun with two slices of mild pickle and a slice of tomato and a piece of iceberg lettuce and the name of the kid written on the top in half an ounce of Happy Burger brand special sauce about which the less said the better
so naturally what you do is, you post an ad saying, cooks wanted, please bring your own grill and meat and bun and pickle and tomato and lettuce, we'll supply the sauce
and you get an applicant, and you send him down to the Hall of Cooks, which is a featureless infinite plane that you keep in the unlit basement of your Happy Burger brand fast food establishment. and you tell him to just keep making burgers and handing them up, and if he hands up a burger that satisfies your standards, you'll pay him a bonus, which is $100,000, plus the price of the burger, which is $.50
now the cook can't see too good down there, and he keeps handing up burgers that are more like pickly meatballs with a swastika painted on the side in tomato sauce, but as long as the meat's cooked the health department won't shut you down, so you keep taking them and dutifully handing down briefcases of cash with a few quarters tossed in. and the cook's pretty happy, even after you summarily declare one day that you're only going to pay $50,000 per burger in the future
so the cook calls in a friend, and she sets up in the Hall of Cooks and starts handing up burgers, and now you're getting acceptable burgers faster than you can sell them. so you raise your standards a bit, and you insist that burgers have to be on a bun, and that cuts production back down to a manageable rate. but the cooks are still pretty happy, even after you cut the burger bonus again to $25,000
this goes on for a while, and now you've got a hundred cooks down there, and you've started demanding that they spell out the kid's name correctly, and that's not easy. so now they're not just making burgers to your increasingly exact specifications, they're racing each other to be the first to get the kid's name right. but you're still paying $5,000 a burger, and apparently the cooks are still happy, because more and more keep showing up
you get curious one day while you're squeezing into your franchise past the giant mountain of rotting discarded hamburgers, and you head down to the Hall of Cooks. the last time you came down here, there were only six cooks, and they were just standing around in a disorganized circle; but now they're organized into these large groups. in one of them, you find your first cook, and he shakes your hand. "remember when we'd just started out and i was lumping up store meat by hand and cooking it on that tiny old george foreman?", he laughs. "that was before figured out cookie cutters and rolling pins." he's standing at a huge professional-grade charbroiler with twenty-four different patties arranged on it; suddenly, in a single efficient flash of movement, he flips them all over. of course, the dull glow of the grill isn't enough in the utter blackness of the Hall, and most of the patties end up on the ground, which you suddenly realize is a lot spongier than it's supposed to be. also, doesn't the ceiling seem lower? you shake it off and head back upstairs to start taking orders, wondering when it'll be the right time to cut the bonus to $1,000
it's been another year. there are tens of thousands of cooks in your basement. you're rejecting burgers for sloppy handwriting. you're rejecting burgers for having too thick a slice of tomato. you're rejecting burgers for excessively clustered poppy seeds. seven months ago, the cooks started building floor-to-ceiling ovens with internal robotics custom-designed for making Happy Kiddy Burgers; now there are whole fields of them, each making ten thousand burgers a second. of course, it's still pitch-dark down there, and the cooks aren't exactly susan calvin, so almost all of those burgers get added straight to the end of the Great Greasy Mountains, but it's amazing how quick they come now. you overhear a few of the cooks talking excitedly about the orders they just placed for massive new ovens from Barbecue Labs. you don't know how any of them can afford this when the burger bonus is only $100
three months ago, you politely asked whether they could start making the adult Happy Burgers, too
for an entire day, all the burgers had your name written on top in poison
Honestly I think this year had more of a Meltdown March thanks to the primaries and the rona.
Still got half a month to go and Elon Musk is going hard though.
https://twitter.com/peltzmadeline/status/1261330674528784384In a month
:lol
:holeup anything but this please :stahpThis is how skynet begins
https://twitter.com/neoliberal_dad/status/1261771755594625030
Ingraham was speaking to Dr. Paul Nathanson, a gender relations professor and author of books including Spreading Misandry: The Teaching of Contempt for Men in Popular Culture on the podcast episode entitled "Transhumanism and the assault on traditional gender and masculinity."
"I think that the trans people have taken it one step further because by abandoning gender altogether, not simply re-writing it, they're basically trying to use social engineering to create a new species. Which is what, in fact, the transhumanists have been doing for the past half century. Using medical and other technologies to develop a new species.
"So the goal is really quite radical," he added. "We're not talking about people who want to simply do a bit of reform here and there, add a new category. They want, they must, in fact, destroy whatever is in order to replace it with what they think should be. We're talking about revolution, not reform."
Ingraham asks: "And the new species will be looking like what? Will be part human part animal? I mean, will be human mostly…"
Nathanson said, "I think human and part machine,"
Okay, please tell me if I'm missing some obvious point here, but what is so confusing and offensive about the idea of wearing a mask in order to 'increase freedoms' i.e., opening up more shit sooner rather than later? It is established that wearing even cloth masks reduce the likelihood of spreading the virus. Therefore, if more people wear those, then more shit can open up....I see nothing to be offended and outraged by....What am I missing?
That you're begging permission from the state to go out and do your normal things, do your business, and make a life for yourself. Things you didn't need to wait and ask permission to do before. Things you were free to do via your own autonomy.
You're missing the meaning of freedom.
Are you taking the virus into context here? Surely, the fact that there is currently a virus that spreads from person to person via the air that they breathe out ought to mean something?
All your life there has been a virus that spreads person to person, many through the air. You've probably had a few. If you're quite old, then you've tried to avoid being around sick people, maybe even family members. If you had a baby, you probably kept sick people away from them.
But you still had your freedoms. You had the permission to do otherwise. What you did was your choice.
It's kind of depressing that you don't understand what the word freedom means. Your concept of it is like a child asking things from mommy. Kids don't have freedoms. They legally don't have the right to them that an adult does.
So your answer is: No. You are obviously not taking this virus into context. Holy shit man. Why are you being so condescending, making assumptions about me, and being such an ass when I've just asked a simple question? Is it too much for your brain to handle?
The stupidity of your reply is staggering. I do appreciate your answer though, since it supports my hypothesis that those against even the slightest precautions are as dumb as Schaub.
You had your question answered. What you're missing is the definition of the word freedom. You didn't like the answer, so you're acting offended.
Remove yourself from the [joe rogan] sub. You don't belong.
Please tell me you are doing satire? If not, I'm not sure you're smart enough to be using the internet.
I was replying to a comment. There is a lot “suspect” about the logistics and perception of the logistics. To you, unacceptable exists within a framework that is probably disjointed from the intention of what I posted.
Little did we know, [Bill Gates] was involved with developing said deadly microbes
that's gotta be like a garden path sentence or something, I've read it four times and I still don't know what it means
I've got some fresh content from this forum's original wank dad
:lol
I've got some fresh content from this forum's original wank dad:pimpQuoteOkay, please tell me if I'm missing some obvious point here, but what is so confusing and offensive about the idea of wearing a mask in order to 'increase freedoms' i.e., opening up more shit sooner rather than later? It is established that wearing even cloth masks reduce the likelihood of spreading the virus. Therefore, if more people wear those, then more shit can open up....I see nothing to be offended and outraged by....What am I missing?Quote from: etThat you're begging permission from the state to go out and do your normal things, do your business, and make a life for yourself. Things you didn't need to wait and ask permission to do before. Things you were free to do via your own autonomy.
You're missing the meaning of freedom.QuoteAre you taking the virus into context here? Surely, the fact that there is currently a virus that spreads from person to person via the air that they breathe out ought to mean something?Quote from: etAll your life there has been a virus that spreads person to person, many through the air. You've probably had a few. If you're quite old, then you've tried to avoid being around sick people, maybe even family members. If you had a baby, you probably kept sick people away from them.
But you still had your freedoms. You had the permission to do otherwise. What you did was your choice.
It's kind of depressing that you don't understand what the word freedom means. Your concept of it is like a child asking things from mommy. Kids don't have freedoms. They legally don't have the right to them that an adult does.QuoteSo your answer is: No. You are obviously not taking this virus into context. Holy shit man. Why are you being so condescending, making assumptions about me, and being such an ass when I've just asked a simple question? Is it too much for your brain to handle?
The stupidity of your reply is staggering. I do appreciate your answer though, since it supports my hypothesis that those against even the slightest precautions are as dumb as Schaub.Quote from: etYou had your question answered. What you're missing is the definition of the word freedom. You didn't like the answer, so you're acting offended.
Remove yourself from the [joe rogan] sub. You don't belong.QuotePlease tell me you are doing satire? If not, I'm not sure you're smart enough to be using the internet.
:lol
the forum's original coward
Hmmm, not sure I remember that conversation, also there's no need to dig it up and fill me in on it, no really, don't
The Cathy Newman interview was a 5 minute segment on TV. They put the whole interview up on YT. The YT whole interview is what sank them. Vice News followed with another recent interview which was apparently 2 hours long. They cut it up into a 4 minute clip for TV. They have yet to put the whole thing up on YT, as if they recognized Channel 4's mistake in going away from the short soundbite format.
You can figure out the context yourself. Kang made a statement that the Social Studies Warrior stuff stays in colleges, to which Peterson disagreed and pointed towards NBC regulating hugging, and Kang explained that as a reaction towards #metoo as though that justifies it without pause, and Peterson said such a thing as workplace harassment is more complicated than ready made answers can handle and that we have to really questions assumptions about women and men working together, to which Kang said it's no issue and he works with women all the time, to which everyone did a double take because Kang works for fucking VICE, and Peterson was like u srs? and then asked why not regulate make-up, to which Kang seemed unable to follow, and Peterson explained that make-up replicates the appearance of sexual arousal and sends sexual messages. Eventually Kang asked if women who wear make-up (sexual message sender) are somewhat hypocritical if they don't want to receive harassment (which tends to be sexual in nature) and Peterson said yes.
So if the goal is X then there are many things you can do to achieve X. However the vast variables of things you can do (y1, y2, y3) are also varied in public acceptance and personal cost. To fully eliminate workplace harassment we would have to go to some extreme ends. The question is if we want to go that far or not and where do we draw the line on what we are willing to do? And can we accept that harassment will happen? Must it be rid of at all costs? If you're going to regulate hugging then why not regulate make-up? If we are regulating male sexual expressions then shouldn't we regulate female sexual expressions?
And Jay's response is a goofy "oh its easy its no prob" while ignoring his own employer is in the midst of heavy sexual assault and impropriety accusations.
I would say that Peterson's line of questioning was due a longer talk, but Jay chose to move on. I directly challenged Jay on this, but he said it was Peterson's job to explain and took no responsibility for being the guy running the interview and changing the subject. Kang is pretty much an online troll, so I don't have faith that he was at all interested in the deeper conversation and was just hoping for a gotcha clip to put on the HBO show.
Which is the sort of stuff people are sick of why they're ditching old media.
No. The question was if a very serious business woman wants to avoid harassment and wears make-up, is that somewhat hypocritical? To which he said yes. He also said he was not saying we should eliminate sexual displays in the workplace.
If you're seriously addressing harassment, then these are the questions you have to face. However, if you're just using harassment as a threat against the company in some sort of racketeering operation by HR then you pose dumb solutions like hugging regulations which make it look like you're doing something when it doesn't actually accomplish anything. And since it doesn't accomplish anything, then the problem persists and you blame someone other than the people whose job it is to "fix" the problem. This doesn't help harassment. It only establishes that a company can regulate behavior down to the level of friendliness allowed.
So we give up choosing whether we can handle hugging a worker friend in order to make the appearance of fighting harassment. The line of questioning involves some adept thinking. It's more of a leap to some than it is to the people who get it. So listen to the people who can follow along.
"they should expect to be harassed."
Again, that is not what he said.
Make-up and high heels sends sexual messages to brains. May iliciit chemical reactions in others, even if those others aren't making the choice to see it as sexual. It's something underneath the surface. That element may lead to a random man thinking the woman is open to his own sexual expression.
That doesn't mean he's justified in doing. It doesn't mean she should expect that response. It's not about blaming everything on one person or one thing. It's about our rules of interaction at work and whether they are fit to the task.
A man noticing a woman's large breasts and instinctively pausing on them. This can be seen as ogling. However, this can happen without any intent or immediate awareness by the man.
Put another way: We've all had awkward boners.
However, those examples are obvious physical displays by the man. We're talking about things a man might to with intent that is not sexual but that is received sexually by women. These would include standing tall, walking tall or exaggerating physical size. (Leaning back, spreading arms.) Displays of accomplishment do this as well.
You can argue that all of these displays are status displays to both men and women, but that goes both ways. A study of women and men and their reaction to images of women with make-up revealed that men see that as status on the conscience report level and women see that as women competing sexually. Self-grooming also falls into sexual display (across species). A simple straight back, chest forward, tightening of the necktie can send signals.
Sexual display and status display are likely intertwined to the point that they activate similar parts of the brain.
I don't think he thinks that sexual allure is the only reason women wear make-up. It is probably hard to detach it from sexual display. All modern uses likely hearken back to that as their origin. An honest adult woman likely knows how she does her make-up increases her sexuality and that increases her status and power.
Sweet Jebus
Jay Kang can not follow along with the conversation at all. They did really cut up the interview. Kang also lied about the length of the make-up conversation on twitter. He made it seem like the original clip was the total length of the topic and it was Peterson's fault for not expanding upon it when the truth is they did talk a lot more about it and VICE cut that longer discussion out. Jay could have just admitted the expanded upon it and didn't have space in the time budget rather than blame JBP.
I'd say if you think this makes it worse then you're not understanding the conversation. I'm tired of explaining it though. hungrynoob is right, it's rather futile in effort. People should not still be hung up on the make-up bit at this point.
The point of the exploratory discussion is that we haven't had a real exploratory discussion. You assume the matter is settled based on untested assumptions, so the entire conversation sounds like "menacing warnings about unintended consequences" that mean nothing to you when the unintended consequences are real questions for people who look at these things on an evolutionary scale.
Does sexual harassment exist yes? Yes. Do we denounce it? Yes. Does it still happen? Yes.
So why does it happen? And can we eliminate it? Do we want to fully eliminate it? Where is the line of what we are willing to do stand?
If you fill all these unknowns with assumptions and don't pay attention closely to what people do in response then we are driving blindly upon the subject.
The evolutionary scale is different biologically and socially. Social adaptation and change occurs much faster than biological. They both have a scale that evolves. This question exists on both formats at once, but we have to mostly face it on the social behavioral side while still worrying about the longer term evo scale.
it was a joke about me taking etiolate's side
:holeup anything but this please :stahpThis is how skynet begins
https://twitter.com/neoliberal_dad/status/1261771755594625030
https://twitter.com/IvankaTrump/status/1262095075963736064 (https://twitter.com/IvankaTrump/status/1262095075963736064)
this is how the matrix starts :thinking
Peterson really ought to be thanking all those trans folks for giving him some made up conflict for him to get involved with. "This law is going to do X Y Z"
*law passes. Nothing Jordan feared came true anyways. Jordan Big Wank Money train don't care. Woo wooooooo*
edit:
Which reminds me. I saved this a while ago as it amused me.
https://yuki.la/pol/126156281
Though this second guy has no bigotry in his bones. He's just one of those artist types. Literally this guy paints for a living to some degree. I know he's also taught art in the past. Not sure if he still does the latter.
You know those failed art school painterly types, never done anything wrong, harmless, except for that one time
What? Why the hell would you move your audio only to spotify? Can't even download that shit unless you are subbed to it.
I know why... [Cardi B voice] Money [/Cardi B voice]
Fair enough.
I guess the aspect that really baffles me is while I was the same it caused the opposite effect of me seeing your Jordan Peterson types as pathetic. Like you want to be ultra-masculine? Hit the gym, learn how to fix your own car, it isn't that hard.
Fair enough.
I guess the aspect that really baffles me is while I was the same it caused the opposite effect of me seeing your Jordan Peterson types as pathetic. Like you want to be ultra-masculine? Hit the gym, learn how to fix your own car, it isn't that hard.
the funny thing is jorp has done a better job proving the concept of masculinity is an arbitrary construct than any feminist ever could.
dude is teaching incels how to be a 'real man', while being the least masculine person in the western hemisphere.
also, related to that, i find it equally amusing that comic books, anime and video games have become the battleground in the war to save Western Civilization (tm). and the people who consider themselves fans of those things, who have proclaimed themselves the vanguard against cuckery, when those same people have been looked down upon by society as pathetic, basement dwelling losers.
https://twitter.com/GutianGang/status/1251409734785089537Time to do my marxist duty :rash
:idont
my tolerance is so low for shapiro type bullshit. Frankly, I just want to live my life without ever encountering it ever again.
. But the book—dedicated in part to "those who hope I fail"—is just as much about pointed revelation ("Some people laugh when I tell them I am twenty-two and have never had sex," begins the chapter "Why I'm a Virgin")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTwEFa5NW2k
Crazy that this was the last video for Jordan Peterson.
She continues to post her grifty diet shit on Instagram daily.
Quote. But the book—dedicated in part to "those who hope I fail"—is just as much about pointed revelation ("Some people laugh when I tell them I am twenty-two and have never had sex," begins the chapter "Why I'm a Virgin")
maybe this is it
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edit: yepQuote. But the book—dedicated in part to "those who hope I fail"—is just as much about pointed revelation ("Some people laugh when I tell them I am twenty-two and have never had sex," begins the chapter "Why I'm a Virgin")
Turns out trying to make your company the defacto center for all podcasting is more valuable then some random 3 minute ditty about heartbreak. Who knew?
Angela Nagle and Michael Tracey wrote an article about how Bernie lost because of the Maoist ultraleft if some of you who enjoy torturing yourselves want to read it, personally I will not be doing so
we live in wank world now :karenI mean we are in lockdown :dsp
I cannot speak for Mr. Roberts skull preferences, I can however convey his interest in casual genocideIs wank dad really about politics or people with platforms saying dumbshit? I'd hate to have to take Bob Chipman eating an absolute unit of McDonalds somewhere else :fbm
What is Mr. Chipman's view on skull shapes?
I think my favorite moviebob moments are when he sucks up hard to bread tubers only for them to reply dunking on him and he can't help but be hurt guy replying too much.he seems to be quoting lindsay ellis, sexy cyborg and some indie game chick all the time now, they are the only people I haven't seen dunk on him. Eventually they will realise what is going on and drive him back to McDonalds. Jack from RLM is the only person that seems to genuinely like him lmao
Is wank dad really about politics or people with platforms saying dumbshit? I'd hate to have to take Bob Chipman eating an absolute unit of McDonalds somewhere else :fbmI would say the traits are, in order of importance: unearned arrogance, reactionary thought, a loyal following, and the milking thereof for adulation or money.
Can we consider Warren a wank mom? Or is being an actual politician with a career in it disqualify you from the wank handle?
she’s categorically denying any wrongdoing.
peep the replies. the main person pulling receipts explicitly details a couple cases where people have fessed up and tried to deal with evil in their family history. the point is that op is plugging their ears to all this. well, that and twitter getting their priors confirmed about blue check liberalism
Can we consider Warren a wank mom? Or is being an actual politician with a career in it disqualify you from the wank handle?
Most wank people don't have actual jobs other than being professional saying-stuff-on-the-internet people.
https://twitter.com/EmilyGorcenski/status/1263557621803618310 (https://twitter.com/EmilyGorcenski/status/1263557621803618310)'And now CDC tells us it does NOT easily spread from surfaces!'
https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1263657736920801281 (https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1263657736920801281)
This guy that wank dad bod
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1263656316637188099 (https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1263656316637188099)
CO2!
https://twitter.com/susandiskin/status/1263650039538176000 (https://twitter.com/susandiskin/status/1263650039538176000)
Fuck this guy
https://twitter.com/dadblood69/status/1263640270425296896 (https://twitter.com/dadblood69/status/1263640270425296896)
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1263675874156707840 (https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1263675874156707840)
I dunno if he's linked up with any of the other IDW members, but that @primalpoly guy is absolutely wank dad material.
Never came up here, though.
Angela Nagle and Michael Tracey wrote an article about how Bernie lost because of the Maoist ultraleft if some of you who enjoy torturing yourselves want to read it, personally I will not be doing so
I read it. Summary: Bernie got woke, went broke.
Did you ever wonder how Ben Shapiro would write black characters in a fiction ? It's as good as you would expect.
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/what-we-learned-from-ben-shapiros-61013395/ (https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/what-we-learned-from-ben-shapiros-61013395/)spoiler (click to show/hide)"He was the star player of the school's team. No one knew his real name."
:brain[close]
https://twitter.com/stoolpresidente/status/1264031987943247873I applaud Portnoy for turning a contract dispute into such an entertaining drama.
'less chance of getting aids if fucking bareback hookers in crackhouses'
I mean in all honesty how the hell did circumcision ever become a trend? Like I know it goes back to ancient times, but exactly how the hell did it become spread all around the globe?Cause masturbation bad, m'kay?
I mean the initial idea just kind of boggles the mind. One big "why". Unless it was originally just some kind of sexual fetish that somehow spiraled and morphed into modern day reasons for circumcisions being performed.
Fellas.... This account is great
https://twitter.com/Trad_West_Arch/status/1263590358585233409
https://twitter.com/Trad_West_Arch/status/1263235847396233216
https://twitter.com/Trad_West_Arch/status/1263885341326487553
https://twitter.com/Trad_West_Arch/status/1260983966674321410
Tbh I kind of like brutalist architecture but only when it's built from the ground up and not to replace shit for ideological reasons
https://twitter.com/Julian_Epp/status/1264323016554668032
https://twitter.com/nobody_stop_me/status/1256398347411361795
:drool
Is JP dead or what?
jordys daughter :leonhttps://twitter.com/JarJarFan69/status/1264058923268464640
https://youtu.be/M5s1mrcgi_cit's great how the guests have no clue they're insulting him, because nobody bothers with joe's garbage stand-up shows :lol
Did someone post this yet? :rofl
https://twitter.com/schmackelstan/status/1264093414620041216
"Oh, oh! This fiery height! Oh, oh! My feet of fire! My burning feet of fire!"is about yiffing.
Nice to see the discourse get more honest as time goes on.
https://twitter.com/MattBruenig/status/1266880314737115143
I knew I was right to sell Wank Dads and invest heavily in Wank Mommies.Fact check: true
:lol
https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1266528495871627265
https://twitter.com/SpikerIsAwesome/status/1266840664764973056
https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1267294533793902594
:pimp niccas in china
https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1267472132038156288
:era
pls Mexico and the North Mexico Buffer Rump State of America are all going to the Canadian Empire.
Tim Hortons is no longer a Canadian thing and been in decline since it merged with Burger King.
America is a divided, hostile, barbaric country and I think residential schools are the solution.
The Canadian government developed a policy called "aggressive assimilation" to be taught at church-run, government-funded industrial schools, later called residential schools. The government felt children were easier to mold than adults, and the concept of a boarding school was the best way to prepare them for life in mainstream society.
https://twitter.com/repjohnlewis/status/751432205826715648
https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/1266874441197326338sounds like the US should’ve...cleaned its room? :kermit
Are you interested in cooking from home? You should try this precooked, preseasoned chicken that's been kept hot for you all day and that everyone has already most definitely seen
The word carceral means the act of binge eating cereal and imprisoning it in your belly
That's an ocelot, dawg
no his name is shostakovich(https://i.imgur.com/ZbLIq4x.png)
https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/1266874441197326338Does Ian still play with puppets like Prince Andrew?
Scott Adams really underestimates how a bad movie can drive someone to :rage
If the answer is yes, it means that the view of more than half of Americans are unacceptable. And perhaps they are.it’s like, they get it, but they also don’t?
Bret Stephens is going to write a column about Louis CK and cancel culture when daily COVID19 deaths top 2000.
Also good vibes
:aah
https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1267922687608999936
https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/status/1268900842381475840
My podcast app said I'd like the Jordan Peterson podcast and the Joe Rogan Experience :fbm:kermit
Bodied by my own data :fbm
My podcast app said I'd like the Jordan Peterson podcast and the Joe Rogan Experience :fbm
Bodied by my own data :fbm
https://www.instagram.com/p/B-XGpZ7AmiY/My podcast app said I'd like the Jordan Peterson podcast and the Joe Rogan Experience :fbm
Bodied by my own data :fbm
Stare into the wank abyss long enough...
https://twitter.com/KyleKulinski/status/738446977218793473
They argued that elements of Bennet’s op-ed page — including Weiss, deputy editor James Dao (who oversaw the Cotton piece), and columnist Bret Stephens — have elevated trolling the Times’s liberal readership into a kind of raison d’être, one that has led to the publication of poor-quality material and damaged the ability of other staffers to do their jobs.This line alone made the whole read worth it
Weiss, deputy editor James Dao (who oversaw the Cotton piece), and columnist Bret Stephens
QuoteWeiss, deputy editor James Dao (who oversaw the Cotton piece), and columnist Bret Stephens
The NYT Unholy Trinity
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I don't even know who this guy is anymore or his general stances. Google his name and instead some Colorado profesor shows up (who even has a Wikipedia page).
Oh well
I just realized that once Trump leaves the White House, he's going to be a Wank Dad until he dies.
Dreher finding out Czechia's super aethist after moving there and selling his house in America.
:pika
So really, black people need to pay reparations to us.
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1271089344846102536
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1271089344846102536
:era
Gotta love how Dave has so many homophobic followers and acquaintances
Watched about an hour so far, some interesting stuff about how young talent gets fucked over in the entertainment business.
https://taibbi.substack.com/p/the-news-media-is-destroying-itself
Da free press is dead 😭😭😭QuoteBut police violence, and Trump’s daily assaults on the presidential competence standard, are only part of the disaster. On the other side of the political aisle, among self-described liberals, we’re watching an intellectual revolution. It feels liberating to say after years of tiptoeing around the fact, but the American left has lost its mind. It’s become a cowardly mob of upper-class social media addicts, Twitter Robespierres who move from discipline to discipline torching reputations and jobs with breathtaking casualness.
The leaders of this new movement are replacing traditional liberal beliefs about tolerance, free inquiry, and even racial harmony with ideas so toxic and unattractive that they eschew debate, moving straight to shaming, threats, and intimidation. They are counting on the guilt-ridden, self-flagellating nature of traditional American progressives, who will not stand up for themselves, and will walk to the Razor voluntarily.
He's a white guy.He's Filipino! :bolo
Maher and Taibbi Lament Media's Trump Obsessions Distort Coronavirus Coverage (https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/brad-wilmouth/2020/05/02/maher-and-taibbi-lament-medias-trump-obsessions-distort)
The Canadian psychology professor Jordan Peterson is currently in Belgrade and undergoing treatments in an unnamed clinic in the Serbia’s capital, the weekly news magazine Nedeljnik can reveal.
His daughter Mikhaila is with him and spoke to Nedeljnik about his ongoing fight with the addiction to anti-anxiety medication.
“We will be here for at least a couple of months”, Mikhaila told Nedeljnik in a wide-ranging interview in Belgrade that will be published in the next issue of Nedeljnik.
They flew in to Belgrade from Florida last week.
She said Mr Peterson was feeling better and that the family is satisfied with the first round of therapy.
Peterson’s family sought treatment for his “physical dependency” to benzodiazepine in Russia in February, after failed attempts in North America.
Peterson will make a video explaining the details of his ordeal in the next week, Mikhaila Peterson told Nedeljnik.
https://www.nedeljnik.rs/jordan-peterson-seeks-treatment-in-serbia-nedeljnik-can-reveal/QuoteThe Canadian psychology professor Jordan Peterson is currently in Belgrade and undergoing treatments in an unnamed clinic in the Serbia’s capital, the weekly news magazine Nedeljnik can reveal.
His daughter Mikhaila is with him and spoke to Nedeljnik about his ongoing fight with the addiction to anti-anxiety medication.
“We will be here for at least a couple of months”, Mikhaila told Nedeljnik in a wide-ranging interview in Belgrade that will be published in the next issue of Nedeljnik.
They flew in to Belgrade from Florida last week.
She said Mr Peterson was feeling better and that the family is satisfied with the first round of therapy.
Peterson’s family sought treatment for his “physical dependency” to benzodiazepine in Russia in February, after failed attempts in North America.
Peterson will make a video explaining the details of his ordeal in the next week, Mikhaila Peterson told Nedeljnik.
Going to Russia to get put into a coma and then going to Serbia because of an addiction to benzos is about as sus as you can possibly get
I should have called it these dudes always run to Chomsky in any dispute with the left
my man, nathan j. robinson has a nice takedown of the taibbi drama:
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2020/06/has-the-american-left-lost-its-mind
also, i had no idea taibbi also sided with tom fucking cotton in the recent NYT kerfuffle. looks like the lad is too far gone at this point :fbm
Taibbi called people "Twitter Robespierres" as a diss. He's been published in Jacobin!
I show empirically that disruption seeds mainstream news agendas and that tactics influence the types of issue frames adopted by media.
Protests are typically contentious events in which media have considerable latitude to emphasize a range of interpretations (Davenport 2009). For example, both nonviolent and violent protests often involved illegal acts that could be described in terms that suggest either civil disobedience or criminal behavior. Similarly, no bright line distinguishes nonviolent and violent disturbances. Many nonviolent events were suffused with violence initiated by police and white civilians, while many events that escalated to protester-initiated violence often began as relatively peaceful, nonviolent affairs. This ambiguity allows for reporting to vary even for factually similar situations. Framing theory suggests that as journalists compose news stories, they rely on recurring organizing ideas and themes that structure how the public makes sense of a story and, often, imply particular public policies
Around the world, subordinate group activists confront powerful dominant groups and face difficult choices about whether and how to assert their interests. Strategies like nonviolent disruption can grow sympathetic coalitions but may also result in humiliation, injury and death at the hands of police, soldiers and vigilantes. More nationalist-oriented strategies like responding to police violence in- kind can directly counter repression and capture the attention of elites but risk alienating potential allies and provoking even greater social control. In the 1960s, African American activists and thinkers deliberated over both strategies. Ella Baker (2003) and Bayard Rustin (1965) helped organize nonviolent civil disobedience while Malcolm X argued, “I don’t even call it violence when it’s self- defense, I call it intelligence” (1969, 313). A substantial body of work in political science suggests we should expect no meaningful political consequences to follow subordinate group agitation. The results of this article suggest that statistical minorities in stratified democracies can overcome structural biases to influence and frame the news, direct elite discourse, sway public opinion and win at the ballot box. For subordinate groups in democratic polities, though, tactics matter. An “eye for an eye” in response to violent repression may be moral, but this research suggests it may not be strategic.
Robinson's pretty good when he's staying away from the void of screaming insanity that is Democratic Party internal politics.
I keep getting the house fire argument about all lives matter. So none of them know about a Duncan Lemp.
Really tempted to just start shitposting on FB. If you post a Thomas Sowell or Glenn Loury they just don't process it.
-2 points 2 days ago
I'm becoming well aware BLM reflects more of a just black lives matter rather than a black lives matter too mentality.
A couple weeks ago everyone made fun of him for his views on marx which was funny. I got to see pictures of all his leopard print suits
It's like watching a school bully pick on an incel. From what I was able to see of Gutfeld from a quick youtube search, he shouldn't be throwing stones on the topic of who is and isn't a talentless performer, good christ.Greg is talentless but he's right about Crowder completely, at least as to his appearances on Red Eye, which was on at 3AM and leaned towards "comedy" over anything else. Crowder would always claim and hide behind "comedian" then never do comedy, just boring punditry. Conservative pundits/news people would do comedy better than Crowder would. This argument with Schumer is the one he's referencing and a perfect example of what Crowder would do every time he came on the show:
Robinson's pretty good when he's staying away from the void of screaming insanity that is Democratic Party internal politics.
His take on contemporary architecture is radioactively bad
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1272887413858275338It still always comes back to the flu.
At least he's passed just the flu, bro phase.
How are we wrapping back to "the flu tho" arguments as we're about to hit 120k dead and cases and hospitalizations are spiking in all the states that opened the earliest and most aggressively
Robinson's pretty good when he's staying away from the void of screaming insanity that is Democratic Party internal politics.
His take on contemporary architecture is radioactively bad
And like a couple hours after I posted this he told someone on twitter that the Bell Curve was "painstakingly" researched. :-\
finally found a vid, thank you Liz BruenigListening to Charlie Kirk talk to Mark Levin::lol :lol :lol link pls i need some humour at work
"Rousseau was the gateway to Marx... and Plato was the gateway to Rousseau."
finally found a vid, thank you Liz BruenigListening to Charlie Kirk talk to Mark Levin::lol :lol :lol link pls i need some humour at work
"Rousseau was the gateway to Marx... and Plato was the gateway to Rousseau."
https://twitter.com/njhochman/status/1272733117120278528
finally found a vid, thank you Liz BruenigListening to Charlie Kirk talk to Mark Levin::lol :lol :lol link pls i need some humour at work
"Rousseau was the gateway to Marx... and Plato was the gateway to Rousseau."
https://twitter.com/njhochman/status/1272733117120278528
Plato also argued against the nuclear family
So, earlier today, NBC reported that Google had "banned" two well known websites from its ad platform, namely The Federalist and Zero Hedge. The story was a bit confusing. To be clear, both of those sites are awful and frequently post unmitigated garbage, conspiracy theories, and propaganda. But, it turns out the story was highly misleading, though it will almost certainly be used to push the false narrative that the big internet companies are engaged in "anti-conservative bias" in moderation practices. But that's wrong. Indeed, it appears what happened is exactly what Google has done to us in the past, in saying that because of certain comments people put on our stories, they were pulling any Google ads from appearing on that page. Now we've explained why this is a dumb policy, that only encourages bad comments on sites to try to demonetize them, but it's not got anything to do with "anti-conservative bias." Also, it's just pulling ads from a single page, not across the board.Oh, :fbm
It is the truest radicalism, destabilizing to societies built on transaction and domination because it inverts their workings, lays bare their weaknesses, dissolves their core ethic.This quote alone woefully underestimates the deep cruelty of American society.
Slaves who agreed to be salves :hmm
Slaves who agreed to be salves :hmm
It’s a different word that highlights its lower moral culpability.
Slaves who agreed to be salves :hmm
https://twitter.com/AsteadWesley/status/1273292427940544518Mr. President send Airforce 1 to pick up this Hero :salute
https://twitter.com/AsteadWesley/status/1273293191194836993
https://twitter.com/Theophite/status/1273303723586932738
https://twitter.com/AsteadWesley/status/1273360519706152960
I have been on Rising several times, and I have found it to be a refreshingly original show. It has the look and tone of cable news, but is more substantive, and features guests and stories that are excluded from the mainstream networks.
I concur with most of what Ball and Enjeti write, and just as when I watch Rising, I find myself on board with 95 percent of what Ball says and about 80 percent of what Enjeti says.imagine being a vindictive idiot toward someone who hedges their criticism of your work this much. almost like what they’re really offended at is that someone’s bothering to be a principled lefty. the retreat into ad hominem speaks volumes
a long, overwrought articlethis is the best part. its like...10 paragraphs :heh. and nathan robinson isnt exactly james joyce
Seen on BillyMitchy's Fred :
https://twitter.com/toddstarnes/status/1274008856847355909
Two years ago :
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/todd-starnes-its-time-to-make-a-shocking-confession-about-chick-fil-a (https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/todd-starnes-its-time-to-make-a-shocking-confession-about-chick-fil-a)
:maduro
homophobe chicken sammies :deliciousSeen on BillyMitchy's Fred :
https://twitter.com/toddstarnes/status/1274008856847355909
Two years ago :
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/todd-starnes-its-time-to-make-a-shocking-confession-about-chick-fil-a (https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/todd-starnes-its-time-to-make-a-shocking-confession-about-chick-fil-a)
:maduro
Looks like Chick-fil-A is back on the menu, boys! :rejoice
1) He has a degree in philosophy from Harvard! wtf
I swear there's a Taibbi piece from way back where he's railing against the PC police but I'm too fuzzy on the details and my google fu's failing me. That or I'm mixing it up with something or someone else.
:leonconvinced esch keeps posting yglesias specifically to raise my blood pressure
Tbh I enjoyed that one for several reasons:
1) He has a degree in philosophy from Harvard! wtf
"You would have thought that all the people who were lynched were black! ...75% were black."
:doge
why are some people panicking that the nyt is going to write about it?If I remove the specific context and you reimagine it as a question regarding something you know about does that help?
what is slate star codex and why are some people panicking that the nyt is going to write about it?
ah got it, thanks. from just the name i thought it was for warhammer 40k fanfic or some shitwhat is slate star codex and why are some people panicking that the nyt is going to write about it?
It's a "rationalist" blog. Loosely associated with LessWrong.
Presumably some of those dudes are getting anxious that the NYT is going to accurately quote them on race & IQ, or on the pagan AI God they invented and the public's brains just aren't big enough to understand.
:existentialwhy are some people panicking that the nyt is going to write about it?If I remove the specific context and you reimagine it as a question regarding something you know about does that help?
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https://twitter.com/CatoInstitute/status/1274560682063790080Those are two separate "moments" a hundred years apart. :rage
lmao
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https://twitter.com/ClipsDave/status/1268281521732939776I knew Rubin was a gamer, all winners are gamers 8)
His daughter too?Have you seen the pictures of his interior
I think his point is that (obviously) Epstein didn't present himself as some pedo to all the billionaries he met and invited people to his island for vacationing without kid fucking.
Follow-up on that man
https://twitter.com/richrmurphy/status/1275197124011933698
I think I'll trust SERBIAN DOCTORS over a bunch of FORUM NERDS.
https://twitter.com/ClipsDave/status/1275086938001641472
he gets more and more pathetic every day :neogaf
greenwald published his contribution to the right-populist discourseIt's not an article, it's nearly two hours with Nathan Robinson and Krystal Ball:
shosta should read it for us
https://twitter.com/tereseaimee/status/1275381209523052544
https://twitter.com/ExtraHighMarx/status/1275492147106635776
The American people have a revolutionary tradition which has been adopted by the best representatives of the American proletariat, who have repeatedly expressed their complete solidarity with us Bolsheviks. That tradition is the war of liberation against the British in the eighteenth century and the Civil War in the nineteenth century. In some respects, if we only take into consideration the “destruction” of some branches of industry and of the national economy, America in 1870 was behind 1860. But what a pedant, what an idiot would anyone be to deny on these grounds the immense, world-historic, progressive and revolutionary significance of the American Civil War of 1863-65!
https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1276221637000663041 (https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1276221637000663041)https://twitter.com/bergleeuw62/status/1276253858487062531
8)
https://twitter.com/jacobinmag/status/1275885032461275136been a while since i’ve arthur fisted this hard at a video before
greenwald published his contribution to the right-populist discourse
shosta should read it for us
shosta should [watch] it for usI'll do it tomorrow... but I want you to increase my allowance
p*litical sc*entists
What is right wing populism? For me, the starting point has to be the current state of left wing populism.
In the numerous instances where left wing populists can't make meaningful coalitions with democrat corporatists... Prompts the question... who are the left wing going to form coalitions with?
- Glenn says that right wing populists and left wing populists intersect on extremely important issues like when Bernie Sanders teamed up with a tea party republican to limit bombing in Yemen. But Trump VETOED THAT. So aligning with ur-right-wing-populists seems like a pretty bad strategy.
Glenn thinks people are chasing ideas and Nathan thinks people are chasing their interests by any means possible. Basically Nathan is a materialist and Glenn is an idealistjust saving this for my next carepost. carry on!
I think the most telling part is when Nathan says, look, you can and should "work with" Libertarians or even Le Pen nazis on very specific limited aims if there really is agreement but you should be excruciatingly careful about your concessions. Glenn immediately says "yeah, don't concede anything important!" And therein lies the crux: when Glenn says "work with", he doesn't think you'll have to make concessions, you can just pass these limited aims where everyone agrees. But all coalition building involves concession making! And that's why the right wing "populists" historically align with the capitalists... their identarian aims are more important to them than their economic ones (if they exist at all).
trouble in IDW paradise?
https://twitter.com/ClipsDave/status/1276563243582906368
the best that his pal, eric weinstein said about his new book was that he didn't read it, but thinks it's probably good
trouble in IDW paradise?https://twitter.com/ololo666/status/1276579293162856449
https://twitter.com/ClipsDave/status/1276563243582906368
the best that his pal, eric weinstein said about his new book was that he didn't read it, but thinks it's probably good
It seems like it'd be very tiring to have to talk about that boring shit all the time
I think the most telling part is when Nathan says, look, you can and should "work with" Libertarians or even Le Pen nazis on very specific limited aims if there really is agreement but you should be excruciatingly careful about your concessions. Glenn immediately says "yeah, don't concede anything important!" And therein lies the crux: when Glenn says "work with", he doesn't think you'll have to make concessions, you can just pass these limited aims where everyone agrees. But all coalition building involves concession making! And that's why the right wing "populists" historically align with the capitalists... their identarian aims are more important to them than their economic ones (if they exist at all).
what problems do people have with nathan aside from his fashion sense and maybe his voice?do I need other reasons
I'm now going to give shasta a like out of spite against your bitchassness
what problems do people have with nathan aside from his fashion sense and maybe his voice?thats basically it. he’s just a massive dork.
also i like how everyone ignored the fact that i listened to the nathan/greenwald before shosta yet received no appreciation
this must be how hegel felt :doge
when you think a post is going to get no likes but filler comes through :whew
lol, wokeism. it's just a continuation of the same thing (pc culture) conservatives and culture critics (zizek et al) have been complaining about for decades.
Glenn must be listening to Red Scare or something these days
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1277398360970969088
Glenn must be listening to Red Scare or something these days
i've recently been re-watching avatar: the last airbender, and there's this episode where katara wants to learn water bending from a master, but the master refuses to teach her because his customs don't allow women to be water bending warriors. eventually he relents, and katara not only proves to be a capable water bender, but has advanced further and faster than any of his male students.
this episode was aired all the way back in 2005. the trope of a girl fighting sexism by doing something only boys could do wasn't new even then, and i'd been familiar with it on almost every cartoon or live action kids show growing up. by that point, such a thing was so uncontroversial that it was unremarkable. i've always been pretty socially liberal, but this was at a time before i ever paid attention to politics. i just thought it was a nice, positive, uplifting message for the girls watching the show and didn't think much of it at the time or since. and i'm sure lots of people agreed since i never encountered any backlash toward it.
but re-watching it now, i can only imagine the absolute shitstorm that would arise from the anti-PC/gamergate/IDW/chud crowd if it was aired today. it sucks to realize that as time went on, we've actually somehow regressed.
i've recently been re-watching avatar: the last airbender, and there's this episode where katara wants to learn water bending from a master, but the master refuses to teach her because his customs don't allow women to be water bending warriors. eventually he relents, and katara not only proves to be a capable water bender, but has advanced further and faster than any of his male students.
this episode was aired all the way back in 2005. the trope of a girl fighting sexism by doing something only boys could do wasn't new even then, and i'd been familiar with it on almost every cartoon or live action kids show growing up. by that point, such a thing was so uncontroversial that it was unremarkable. i've always been pretty socially liberal, but this was at a time before i ever paid attention to politics. i just thought it was a nice, positive, uplifting message for the girls watching the show and didn't think much of it at the time or since. and i'm sure lots of people agreed since i never encountered any backlash toward it.
but re-watching it now, i can only imagine the absolute shitstorm that would arise from the anti-PC/gamergate/IDW/chud crowd if it was aired today. it sucks to realize that as time went on, we've actually somehow regressed.
Nerds universally agreed that X-Men was a big metaphor for the civil rights struggle (including the pretty inaccurate Dr. X/MLK vs. Magneto/Malcolm X bit) and would frequently hold that up as an argument for the genre being taken seriously!
Now I'm imagining dorks getting apoplectic at Eowyn saying "I am no man."
but re-watching it now, i can only imagine the absolute shitstorm that would arise from the anti-PC/gamergate/IDW/chud crowd if it was aired today. it sucks to realize that as time went on, we've actually somehow regressed.
all the cultural marxism conspiracy tropes originated in 90s american paleoconservatism. most of the standard lines of attack got hashed out during the first few years of the culture wars and everything’s been iterations on those ever since.
the whinging about ‘wokeism’ is the latest iteration of a charge of suspicion that what really animates leftward moralization is self-regard, that altruism is actually just a desire to feel self-important. ‘virtue signaling’ occupies the same rhetorical space. this is what pretty much every episode of south park trades in: a priori belief in everyone else being as selfish as you are, and everyone's altruism getting revealed as narcissism. and repose in being clear-headed and mature enough to recognize all this
I like this and it is concise. But I'd say, as I recognize myself in some of it ("Social Justice Skeptic" I am though as a couple of others here) that it's a common set of views if you're an individualist and a materialist, I'd reckon. Everything is a spectrum and a question of degrees, probably... I think the mistake is thinking maturity and clear headedness ends there when it's really just the starting point.but the repose just is the point for the south park centrist. they arent interested in weighing evidence or argument, they’re trying to find a way out of (really: above) partisan cut and thrust. they want smug withdrawal above the mess of political contestation, and they purchase that by either appealing to some nebulous common sense and/or deflating the bite of the moralizer by exposing the psychological makeup of the moralizer as merely self-regarding.
[post]i need to stop posting at 1 in the morning :snoop
Looking at those likes, I would say you should post more at 1 in the morning.[post]i need to stop posting at 1 in the morning :snoop
Please review.
https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1277653212053585923
Reddit banned a whole bunch of things today, including TD, which was mostly dead.I lost chapo and cumtown on the same day... now all I've got is r/aww, forbiddensnacks, and cursedimages
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1277665653000986625
What do these nerds even get out of trying to defend Trump on shit like this? Dude has been quoting George Wallace and Walter Headley, talking up heritage, and being more concerned with Confederate monuments than police assaulting and killing people all over the country for the past month.
Are hardcore Trumpers really the Ben Shapiro audience
all on the same day filler got banned on the bore :stahp
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1277729205040578561https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1277747226559873025
:rollsafe
Shadowban is on a slider, apparently ?
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1277677434008211457
I demand a statement, the post has been up for three hours now and I'm starting to get comfortable assigning blame.I am more shadow-banned today than I ever have been. Typically I get over 50,000 likes per post. Today I am averaging 12,000.
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1277665653000986625
https://twitter.com/theserfstv/status/1278021378315153408
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1277997089046355968
Man he looks and sounds like shitt :jeanluc
Jorp. He definitely looks and sounds like he was put into a coma in Eastern Europe for a few weeks.
some heroic individual on reddit summarized the video for those of us who can't stomach listening to jorp for an hour:
"JP had been taking benzodiazepines since late 2016, as a treatment for sleeplessness following what he describes as a bad reaction to something he ate [ed: this seems to be the apple cider incident described on Joe Rogan's podcast], per medical guidelines at 0.25mg 2xday [ed: presumably clonazepam, this is a standard dose]. This treatment seemed to work at the time, so he continued with it.
At some unspecified time, he started noticing symptoms of weakness, detachment, and anhedonia. At some unspecified later time, he inferred that these were side-effects of the benzos.
At some point around April-May 2019, he began experiencing increased anxiety, which he associates with dealing with his wife's illness. As a result, he requests for an increase in his benzo dose. [ed: apparently up at some point to 4mg/day; this is a high dose]
He reports feeling increased anxiety from this point, for which reason he stops taking the benzos and starts taking ketamine [ed: his daughter later clarifies this was on recommendation of a psychiatrist]. He reports having been off the benzos for about a week and that "this turns out to have been a bad idea" [ed: presumably this did not help the anxiety and he resumed benzo use at that point, but it's not clearly stated].
He tried to taper down the dosage of his benzos [ed: presumably this was after resuming, so that he first stopped cold turkey, then resumed and tried to taper; it's not stated whether a physician is involved in this]. He reports intolerable anxiety and restlessness as resulting from this.
By August 2019 his wife had recovered but he was still wrestling with these issues. Sometime after then he goes to "a clinic on the east coast" for help getting off the benzos. He reports expecting a "multi-day" procedure for getting off the benzos and through withdrawal and being unsatisfied by the clinic's recommendation that they replace clonazepam with another benzo [ed: presumably valium] and use other "sedative-like drugs" to help manage symptoms during the taper [ed: so presumably not benzos; probably trazodone or quetiapine for sleep; that sort of thing]. He reports that since the benzos are causing the symptoms, he's unsatisfied with an approach that still had him on benzos.
In November-December 2019 he's hospitalized in Toronto for related / the same difficulties [ed: the specific event leading to hospitalization is not stated]. [ed: it's not clear whether he had continued the east coast clinic's protocol up to this point or had abandoned it.]
In December 2019 his daughter and her husband remove him from this hospital [ed: he reports not remembering this period, and later reports that this was against physician's orders] and bring him to a clinic near Moscow that sedate him [ed: to unconsciousness] for nine days with propofol. He reports complications of nine days of delirium following waking from this, and pneumonia which he'd had since the Toronto hospitalization.
He reports being extremely angry with his daughter at this point, as he has no recollection of agreeing to this treatment, while she explains that the whole family, including him, had discussed it and agreed to it, but that his memory of this was impaired. She reports the Russian doctor not understanding why they'd brought him there.
At this point he reports no longer being on the benzos, and having relief from the restlessness that was a side-effect of their use, but having general impairment of sensory, motor, and cognitive function. He is transferred to a rehabilitation clinic in Moscow for two weeks to help rehab through these difficulties.
They then move to Florida, and he reports that the anxiety and some of the restlessness recur at this point. He is given some medication here, but it's not stated what or what the circumstances of its prescription were.
In June 2020 he moves to Serbia to enter care in a clinic there [his daughter explains: to treat the "neurological damage done by the benzos"]. They adjust the unspecified medication he was given in Florida. He reports finding relief at this point.
He then discusses questions of responsibility and trust in his work, and remarks that he found it noteworthy how much support he got from people in spite of the stigma associated with drug problems, that everyone has difficulties so one cannot realistically expect to find help from people who don't, that he's always included himself among the population of people he's speaking about who need to work on their own personal responsibility and moral improvement, and that anyone ought to judge for themselves whether to trust his work based on what he's previously said and done.
They then discuss a perceived difference between American and Russian approaches to treating these issues. They report that the American doctors wanted to treat an "underlying disorder" [ed: it's not stated what they thought this to be, JP and MP clarify only that it's something that "doesn't exist... probably doesn't exist"] rather than treating the benzo dependency, whereas the Russian doctors treated the benzo dependency [ed: but on the history they give, the Western doctors did try to treat the benzo dependency, just not in the way JP/MP wanted/expected, so it's unclear what they mean here]."
We’re not very smart, are we?
https://mobile.twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1278415052748533766
They then move to Florida, and he reports that the anxiety and some of the restlessness recur at this point. He is given some medication here, but it's not stated what or what the circumstances of its prescription were.So he's still trying to treat himself in a way that Western doctors apparently aren't comfortable with and seemingly went to Serbia because they wouldn't boost his dosage in Florida. Maybe because of that history where he self-dosed himself to 4mg a day of clonazepam/klonopin. I dunno, maybe.
In June 2020 he moves to Serbia to enter care in a clinic there [his daughter explains: to treat the "neurological damage done by the benzos"]. They adjust the unspecified medication he was given in Florida. He reports finding relief at this point.
...
They then discuss a perceived difference between American and Russian approaches to treating these issues. They report that the American doctors wanted to treat an "underlying disorder" [ed: it's not stated what they thought this to be, JP and MP clarify only that it's something that "doesn't exist... probably doesn't exist"] rather than treating the benzo dependency, whereas the Russian doctors treated the benzo dependency [ed: but on the history they give, the Western doctors did try to treat the benzo dependency, just not in the way JP/MP wanted/expected, so it's unclear what they mean here]."
Was Scott Adams always this much of a crank?Maybe not this much. But yes.
https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-jordan-peterson-s-barrage-of-revisionist-falsehoods-on-hitler-and-nazism-1.8955174
I think part of this, which the article doesn't really touch upon at all, is Jorp's inherent contrarianism. If you heard this guy speak for hours, I don't think it would really surprise you that he'd have "You know Hitler wasn't all bad" conclusions in a smug "well, ACKTUALLY" kind of way.
Kasparov...New Chronologylmaooooooo
https://twitter.com/AlanDersh/status/1279803319758848000 (https://twitter.com/AlanDersh/status/1279803319758848000)
:titus
what's your beef with lowery?
Some funny ass bars in this. The wank daddification of the press is slow but sure
https://twitter.com/SohrabAhmari/status/1278634754598985729
https://twitter.com/dynamic_effort/status/1279952808578560000
https://twitter.com/MattWelch/status/1280489578336567297
https://twitter.com/MattWelch/status/1280489578336567297
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1277720270304919552
Never trust anyone with no sense of humor.
Cancel cancel culture.
Cancel cancel culture.
Cancel the clock.
Cancel the cock.
See my cock disappear in your butt :bolo
At first you don‘t feel anything and then your bussy gets utterly destroyed.
Just like Napoleon III.
I'd laugh at failed Euro empires but now that my own empire is crumbling before my very eyes, it isn't as funny :goty
https://twitter.com/SebGorka/status/1281038235611869184
:whoo
Are these people idiots or is it purposeful that they refuse to understand the scientific method?
https://twitter.com/KarlMarxJunior/status/1281283846051373056
Damn... someone better pay Occam royalties
Read the room, Debbie smhhttps://twitter.com/SavionWrightJ/status/1281030968887988224
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who is bill mitchell and why should I care?
When was this?
Downplaying racism's always been a core tenet of the IDW, so not surprising in any case.
Goya sells more than beans?
in the trad. of Locke & Hume.this is either gibberish or trivial. when people say stuff like this all they mean is that they think dispassion is a necessary condition for ethical arguments to go through. which is, you know, nonobvious
jacobwohl_fan_page This is what a real man looks like, folks!! Wow! 😍🔥 @jacobawohl is pure manly strength!
https://twitter.com/laurawags/status/1283050077070786563
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https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1283107567586033664
:engel
https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1283107567586033664
:engel
Have we talked about the guy who kicked a friend out of his house (or a house he was renting in France) because that friend said bad things about Bari Weiss?
Then he got ratioed, deleted the tweet, said his wife made him delete the tweet, then said actually he wasn't mad and it was all fun.
And Zaid Jilani responded to the original tweet with an apparently sincere "sorry about that, hope your friend becomes more open-minded."
https://twitter.com/laurawags/status/1283050077070786563
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:dead
https://twitter.com/EoinHiggins_/status/1283102405584920581
link to the zaid tweet? cause that's just *chef's kiss*
As part of the debate on "laïcité" in French schools, Soral claimed to prefer the Muslim veil to thong underwear.:hmm
QuoteAs part of the debate on "laïcité" in French schools, Soral claimed to prefer the Muslim veil to thong underwear.:hmm
I realize I never brought up France's Papa Branleurs here when we have at least a couple of noteworthy examples.
Take Alain Soral
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When Dave Rubin was complaining his liberal friends was leaving him, I guess he was talking about the Weinstein brothers. Probably didn't get invited to whatever this thing is. :lol
https://twitter.com/ZaidJilani/status/1282888185962467333
IIRC Roiphe was commissioned to write that piece (which named the creator of the Shitty Media Men list without her permission) by the magazine's publicist, because the publisher wanted something contrarian about #metoo but the editor, who later resigned over it, disagreed. Just a huge clusterfuck.
It felt similar to the NYT Cotton op-ed thing, where people had been keeping their mouth shut about upper management for a while but it finally boiled over. Nicole Cliffe was offering to pay writers who wanted to pull their pieces from Harper's but worried about losing money. I miss Cliffe, she had the only good Twitter account.
Also, Roiphe being at the center of a controversy for writing some anti-feminist magazine feature bolsters my belief that we're rerunning a bunch of the 90's culture wars.
Was Fauci politized by any of the other presidents he's worked under
Easy, AdolfillerBAN THE STRO AND KILL HIM :ltg
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filler annihilated
https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1283483807975260160
:rogan
https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1283483807975260160
:rogan
great wank dad material to start the day off with
Is there a geographical map of us counties with area proportionate to population? I saw that dumb fucking Ben Shapiro tweet and I'm tired of incidence maps just being population maps
https://twitter.com/racefortheprize/status/1284265158005514241
YOU DON'T SAY? :neogaf
(https://i.imgur.com/OBe6h3W.jpg)damn... county one is unreadable
https://twitter.com/sapinker/status/1283188578093355008
backing up race realists to own the libs
Probably just Bari herself.
Is it just because they don't like him? Because I understand that with Glenn. But if it's because of his views what could they possibly be? Looking at the list of people who were acceptable the only thing that he doesn't share with at least one other person on there seems to be that he's gay married with kids in Brazil and also a Russiafraudlies skeptic. And that's with a glance of the names I do recognize, not an actual looking into most of these people I don't even recognize.
Is there a geographical map of us counties with area proportionate to population? I saw that dumb fucking Ben Shapiro tweet and I'm tired of incidence maps just being population mapshttps://worldmapper.org/maps/
Has anyone actually watched the podcast or seen elsewhere where it might be discussed what started, led to and organized this whole Open Letter™? Was it just this dude? Did Rowling order it from her TERF lair? etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skk3l82slY8The cycle of this is pretty interesting.
Can anyone name someone who was fired due to cancel culture that was mostly innocent? Only person I can think of is David Shor.
Can anyone name someone who was fired due to cancel culture that was mostly innocent? Only person I can think of is David Shor.
You don't truly get cancelledso... cancel culture isn't really a problem then
It's the people like Gillis who get cancelled before they're big that lose outEntertainment has ALWAYS been risk averse. This doesn't seem like something new but something that's always been true for comedians with material that offends or can offend major groups of people
You don't truly get cancelledso... cancel culture isn't really a problem then
You don't truly get cancelled if you have a fan-base that doesn't care, and your employer feels like they can stand the heat.
That scenario pretty much only exists for rappers who abuse women.the racial undertones of this post 👀
That scenario pretty much only exists for rappers who abuse women.the racial undertones of this post 👀
That scenario pretty much only exists for rappers who abuse women.the racial undertones of this post 👀
since bionic will inevitably be on your case shortly, just what is bionic's beef with you
let them fight
If someone thinks the research he was doing would lead to racist conclusions, then they must genuinely think that some races might be inferior to others.Everyone tearing down Andrew Wakefield's work on MMR vaccines being causally linked to autism is an anti-vaxxer.
If someone thinks the research he was doing would lead to racist conclusions, then they must genuinely think that some races might be inferior to others.Everyone tearing down Andrew Wakefield's work on MMR vaccines being causally linked to autism is an anti-vaxxer.
The only reason I can figure someone would want to stifle research into genetic links to intelligence is because they think there is a racial component to intelligence (which I do not). That's why I think this research is commendable because if anything it stands to disprove notions of racial superiority/inferiority.is there someone "stifling" this research
Can anyone name someone who was fired due to cancel culture that was mostly innocent? Only person I can think of is David Shor.
even shor's case is questionable because iirc, he himself never stated that he was cancelled.He took it very gracefully but he was pretty clearly fired for claiming that riots were correlated with a decline in democratic vote share in those cities/counties.
https://twitter.com/yaf/status/1284294826117259266?
After a pause on Stone’s end, he apparently began speaking to someone else with him during the interview. The first part of what he said was muffled, but he could clearly be heard complaining about “arguing with this Negro,” apparently in reference to O’Kelly.
After a prolonged silence on his end, Stone then reappeared and said, “Uhh, you’re back.”
“I was talking and you said something about ‘Negro’ so I wasn’t exactly sure,” O’Kelly said.
“I did not,” Stone shot back, “You’re out of your mind.” He went on to dismiss the accusation with an exasperated “whatever.”
https://twitter.com/BretWeinstein/status/1284564434959003648?
QuoteAfter a pause on Stone’s end, he apparently began speaking to someone else with him during the interview. The first part of what he said was muffled, but he could clearly be heard complaining about “arguing with this Negro,” apparently in reference to O’Kelly.
After a prolonged silence on his end, Stone then reappeared and said, “Uhh, you’re back.”
“I was talking and you said something about ‘Negro’ so I wasn’t exactly sure,” O’Kelly said.
“I did not,” Stone shot back, “You’re out of your mind.” He went on to dismiss the accusation with an exasperated “whatever.”
:doge
https://www.thedailybeast.com/roger-stone-appears-to-use-racial-slur-when-pressed-on-special-treatment-from-trump-by-black-radio-host?ref=home
"There is no doubt that some of my tweets are too pungent and politically incorrect for my critics," Stone wrote in his apology, obtained by The Daily Caller. "In retrospect, I see that this attempt at sarcasm can be seen as a slur therefore I heartfully apologize to all this gentleman."
Stone was specifically referring to remarks he made calling journalist Roland Martin a "negro" and remarking on NBC host Megyn Kelly's "nice set of cans," among other slurs and epithets he's used for his rivals on his often-offensive Twitter account. Stone called his Twitter feed "lively," and "not for the faint of heart."
Does anyone still listen to chapo? Is Virgil dead/in jail? Do they still talk about Bernie? Did Amber sign The Letter?
(the rest is, y'know, racism).aw man this reminds me of something that made me so mad recently:
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1284617069653372930
They did an episode on cancel culture that included Amber and had Matt Taibbi as the guest.
From how people were reacting on Twitter, went about as you'd expect.
https://twitter.com/MattGrossmann/status/1284859221197152256
:science
https://youtu.be/dnpK6TlwFF4
This Michael Brooks? Damn.
Michael Brooks wasn't a wank dad, he kicked ass. RIP.
but it was the most philosophically important hour in the history of Twitch (and mankind)
:myniccabut it was the most philosophically important hour in the history of Twitch (and mankind)
I was browsing the back pages
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Read this thread to die instantly :lawd
https://twitter.com/mothercvnt/status/1262227533866496000
https://twitter.com/mothercvnt/status/1262228395896651777
https://twitter.com/cenkuygur/status/1285676623849820160
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1285774083838410754
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1285772017871065088
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1285774083838410754
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1285772017871065088
but...but parler? :doge
Rubin is really a simpleton, even by wank standards, isn't he ?
Rubin is really a simpleton, even by wank standards, isn't he ?
https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1286040908232708101
Is this how people around the world feel like when an American just starts talking shit about their country without knowing shit about it?
https://twitter.com/TheLetterhack/status/1228469538964025344
:mindblown
see this tattoo here kids, i got this at the beginning of the culture wars in the 20s. i was on the front lines.https://twitter.com/JockoPotato/status/1228477635417772036
https://twitter.com/TheLetterhack/status/1228469538964025344
:mindblown
Among the signatories was Thomas Chatterton Williams, a contributing writer at the New York Times Magazine and a columnist for Harper’s, who also had a hand in writing the letter. Williams is the author of two memoirs, “Losing My Cool” and “Self-Portrait in Black and White,” which recount his struggles with racial identity as a teen-ager and as an adult. The son of a Black father and a white mother, he describes himself in his second book as “an ex-black man.” He is known for his critique of Ta-Nehisi Coates, whom Williams believes overemphasizes race and racism, creating “a fantasy that flattens psychological and material difference within and between groups.”
I recently spoke by phone with Williams, who was at his office in France, where he lives. During our conversation, which has been edited for length and clarity, we discussed what the Harper’s letter aimed to accomplish, whether cancel culture has always existed in various forms, and his concerns about Black Lives Matter and the media’s focus on covid-19 mortality rates among people of color.
What was the genesis of the letter?
It’s no secret. No one is trying to be evasive, but it came out of conversations that the five of us—[the Atlantic staff writer and former New Yorker staff writer] George Packer, myself, [the Columbia professor of humanities] Mark Lilla, [the journalist] Robert F. Worth, and [the historian and professor of journalism] David Greenberg—started on an e-mail chain five or six weeks ago, talking about something that I’ve been talking about with some of them for years. A mood or climate seems to have set in, especially in the past almost four years, with the intensity that Trump brings to every topic, and social media—the growth of the importance of social media can’t be taken away from anything we’re talking about. I remember I was on Facebook and other things more, but Twitter has become all-consuming, especially if you work in the media or in academia, and so it feels like Twitter has taken on this invisible, impersonal force that works through people but no one in particular, that sweeps through and enacts public humiliation and punishment, and has become another figure in all of our lives, like the spectre of Trump hanging over us.
At some point, we decided to see if we could draft an open letter. We really didn’t even know if anybody would pay attention. The five of us started talking about who we might be able to reach out to and see if they might sign it. We went through multiple drafts on our own, and then about a month ago, we started sending it out to other people, and we got yeses and nos, and some of the people that said yes and some of the people that said no had really smart responses, with incredible feedback. We then came back and incorporated it, so like twenty people contributed writing to it.
Did you do more of the writing than anyone else?
No, I wouldn’t say that, even. I contributed in an early draft. I was very involved, and then it was a real collective. This is a document that doesn’t have an author, but it has the hands of over twenty people, and especially the hands of five people.
What did you say when you reached out to people?
You need to understand that this is something that we didn’t realize we would get anybody interested in. Some of the people that we knew the best said that they were uncomfortable or afraid of the backlash or couldn’t get involved, and some of the people we didn’t know very well stepped in, so we didn’t have a way of gauging. Everybody knew some names and began contacting them on their own, with their own language. Sometimes I was texting people three lines. Sometimes David was writing beautiful long letters full of tons of evidence of why the people might want to sign. Nobody that any of us contacted was, like, “Let me see who else is signing, and then I’ll get back to you.” Not a single person. I don’t think any of us have ever done this before, so it didn’t even occur to us that that could be a critique down the road.
How important was racial or gender or ideological diversity, especially getting people on the left? I know you have previously said that the letter started out more focussed on the sins of the left.
There was always disagreement. There was never one way that the letter was conceived. There was always some feeling that Trump should be more important and some feeling that in a short letter you have to focus on the kind of culture that’s coming in our own industry, which Trump doesn’t actually fully control. Then there was a feeling, after talking to more and more people that we respected, that we really do have to acknowledge the fact that nothing exists in a vacuum outside of Trump.
You said, “The critique is against censoriousness and so after realizing that the letter would be incomplete by solely focusing on the left, we felt it was necessary to be absolutely clear that Trump is the canceller-in-chief.”
Right, exactly. We all talked for quite a while about how we can’t really think of someone who has been more cancelled in American culture recently than Colin Kaepernick. We were talking about the Black reporter in Pittsburgh who was unable to cover the protests because of a tweet. We are against Twitter being involved in your office decisions and your H.R. department. Do you see what I’m saying? It was interpreted in a different way. It was a constant conversation of “Let’s always be thinking of ways that we can make this as ideologically diverse as possible,” and, also, we know from our own lives that you can’t predict how people think based on their color category, religion, or gender identity, or any of that.
You mentioned ideological diversity and the importance of it. As far I could tell, there were no open Trump supporters who signed the letter. Did you feel that it was important to not have signers beyond a certain level of conservatism in part because then critics could say you don’t really care about liberalism? Trump has the support of more than forty per cent of the country, so aren’t we all drawing our own lines somewhere about ideological diversity?
There was a lot of discussion of that. It was not something that we didn’t know would be a point of contention, but we also basically made the decision that we have to be as idealistic as possible within the bounds of understanding that we have to be pragmatic too, and rhetorically effective. You simply cannot have a document that was as successful as ours, I believe, at this moment, with throwing every single viewpoint in. Even one person who I reached out to, who isn’t, I don’t think, a Trump supporter, said, “No, I won’t sign this because I don’t believe that Trump is the greatest threat in the nation.” We were kind of skeptical that you could have a defense of liberal values, a serious defense of liberal values, with someone who was really a diehard Trump supporter, too. We also felt that if you got somebody who was, you might very well lose some other people that you need to make this a rhetorically effective document.
I asked the question in a bad way. Even if someone didn’t violate their employment contract, if someone was going on a Web site and saying, as Blake Neff did, some awful racist stuff, which I don’t even feel comfortable reading, or got fired like Nick Cannon did, for anti-Semitism, by Viacom—is that cancel culture?
We have to have some agreed-upon standards. Part of what the problem is in this debate is deciding how we’re changing our standards right now. I understand this is not a science, but if there’s a punitive aspect to the collective response to something you do and it’s around a not-yet-solidified norm, that seems to me to be very different than to transgressing what seems to be a commonly understood norm. I know that you can say that there’s lots of difficulty in understanding, but you know that there actually is a difference.
Neff, it’s true, violated what I think a lot of us would agree as norms by using the N-word and saying a bunch of awful things. At the same time, he works for a television show that is able to broadcast these things every night, which the President watches and tweets about. Nick Cannon, who circulated anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, had prominent athletes speak up for him, before they recanted. I think some people would see these things as cancel culture. They would say people are overly sensitive.
You’re looking at something that is new, and, when there’s enough of a quantitative difference, you have a qualitative difference. This is something that has been with us—an impulse to punish and to single out and to scapegoat and to ostracize and stigmatize, that’s not new. But when you have a quantitative difference that technology affords—and I don’t mean to keep coming back to technology, but it’s inextricable from the experience now.
This letter was an attempt to open a conversation, to start thinking seriously about something that many people have noticed is going on. You don’t get an international conversation with a three-paragraph document like this if it doesn’t touch on something that many people understand is going on. This letter has been reprinted in France, Germany, the Netherlands, Japan. I’m getting interview requests from Chile. It was printed in Mexico. There were three articles at least in the Guardian about it in the U.K. This is something.
I know there was a funny thing that went around Twitter about you kicking someone out of your house, or someone “self-ejecting” from your house, for saying something not nice about Bari Weiss. Do you want to just, for the record, tell people what happened?
That got more attention than I can believe. Can I just say something that might not completely satisfy you? I really can’t comment on that for the sanctity of my own household sanity.
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1285774083838410754
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1285772017871065088
lol.. their front page looks like an Ebay ad.
Who's paying for the Daily Wire now that Ben Shapiro resigned?
https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/thomas-chatterton-williams-on-race-identity-and-cancel-culture
But it also seems to me an idea that has a racially charged history to it, and that we should want to be careful when people say things like that. Maybe that’s where we disagree.
Here’s where I draw a line, and this is why it takes people to actually listen to arguments and not scan quotes for gotcha clickbait. I’m not saying you. I’m saying that people love the gotcha as a very good way to get likes and a good way to get the dopamine hits. I engage in it just like a lot of us, because we’re all incentivized to behave this way, and it’s worth something to resist. But, if you engage in a good-faith way, then I think you can actually have conversations about difficult subjects. What I’m saying is that we’re not reading each other in the way that’s conducive to everybody having the ability to encounter the other’s experience. We’re engaging each other in ways that contribute to the fortification of identity epistemology, and I think the thing that’s so sad about that is it limits the amount of conversation we could have. That is impoverishing if what you actually care about is knowledge and ideas and making a kind of multi-ethnic society work.
I guess my point would be that if a white person said that line, I’m not sure the appropriate response would be to sit and thoughtfully listen to them.
It really depends on what made a white person say that.
I can think of one thing that might.
What’s that?
I was kidding.
Mr. Stone cited the championing of the term by the sociologist and N.A.A.C.P. co-founder W.E.B. DuBois, and the continued use of the word by the United Negro College Fund.
Mr. DuBois died in 1963.
As much as I hate Rubin, having a mandatory course imposed on you that has nothing to do with your degree does seem wrong
As much as I hate Rubin, having a mandatory course imposed on you that has nothing to do with your degree does seem wrong
As much as I hate Rubin, having a mandatory course imposed on you that has nothing to do with your degree does seem wrongsomething's wrong with this boy...
Believing that three credit hours of ethnic studies could completely change someone's worldview shows a really optimistic level of faith in the power of education.
As much as I hate Rubin, having a mandatory course imposed on you that has nothing to do with your degree does seem wrong
boy wait until you find out about all universities
something's wrong with this boy...
As much as I hate Rubin, having a mandatory course imposed on you that has nothing to do with your degree does seem wrong
Also, I'm pretty sure it's a way for the universities to get a more uniform distribution of student counts in the first-year courses than something motivated out of social good or philosophy of education.
the idea that colleges turn people into leftist radicals is so fucking strange, just conceptually to me. especially the idea that they turn people into marxists. i wasn't an econ major, but i took a decent number of econ classes, and the amount of time they mentioned marx came out to be a grand total of ZERO. the most leftist thing we covered was keynesianism and that was like for two weeks at most.
Also, I'm pretty sure it's a way for the universities to get a more uniform distribution of student counts in the first-year courses than something motivated out of social good or philosophy of education.
Yeah i'm not saying it's brainwashing, Rubin is a moron, but it's still a dumb idea to jam dumb prerequisites, especially non-applicable ones. It'd be a different matter if it was just for the students doing humanities degrees.the point of general education is to produce well rounded members of society
the idea that colleges turn people into leftist radicals is so fucking strange, just conceptually to me. especially the idea that they turn people into marxists. i wasn't an econ major, but i took a decent number of econ classes, and the amount of time they mentioned marx came out to be a grand total of ZERO. the most leftist thing we covered was keynesianism and that was like for two weeks at most.
Right, Marx isn't even a footnote.
My experience with undergrad econ was that whatever the class is, 80% of it is just solving optimization equations. Basically no history of econ, and a lot of ideology passed off as math (which good teachers will point out, but still).
Also, I'm pretty sure it's a way for the universities to get a more uniform distribution of student counts in the first-year courses than something motivated out of social good or philosophy of education.
can't they just do that by counting the people they admitted? i don't think universities allow you to miss the first semester once you've been accepted.
Yeah i'm not saying it's brainwashing, Rubin is a moron, but it's still a dumb idea to jam dumb prerequisites, especially non-applicable ones. It'd be a different matter if it was just for the students doing humanities degrees.the point of general education is to produce well rounded members of society
the idea that colleges turn people into leftist radicals is so fucking strange, just conceptually to me. especially the idea that they turn people into marxists. i wasn't an econ major, but i took a decent number of econ classes, and the amount of time they mentioned marx came out to be a grand total of ZERO. the most leftist thing we covered was keynesianism and that was like for two weeks at most.
Right, Marx isn't even a footnote.
My experience with undergrad econ was that whatever the class is, 80% of it is just solving optimization equations. Basically no history of econ, and a lot of ideology passed off as math (which good teachers will point out, but still).
Right, Marx isn't even a footnote.- finding out John Hicks wrote Keynes and the Classics before reading the General Theory
My experience with undergrad econ was that whatever the class is, 80% of it is just solving optimization equations. Basically no history of econ, and a lot of ideology passed off as math (which good teachers will point out, but still).
Yeah i'm not saying it's brainwashing, Rubin is a moron, but it's still a dumb idea to jam dumb prerequisites, especially non-applicable ones. It'd be a different matter if it was just for the students doing humanities degrees.the point of general education is to produce well rounded members of society
“It will empower our students to meet this moment in our nation’s history, giving them the knowledge, broad perspectives and skills needed to solve society’s most pressing problems. And it will further strengthen the value of a CSU degree,” said CSU Chancellor Timothy White in a statement.
Right, Marx isn't even a footnote.- finding out John Hicks wrote Keynes and the Classics before reading the General Theory
My experience with undergrad econ was that whatever the class is, 80% of it is just solving optimization equations. Basically no history of econ, and a lot of ideology passed off as math (which good teachers will point out, but still).
- finding out Hicks eventually said IS-LM was just an academic toy and worthless for understanding short term dynamics related to liquidity and interest
- finding out that measuring the contributions of "factors of production" is tautological and Samuelson didn't think it was worth doing
- finding out Solow said that DSGM models have never produced a useful result
- finding out that Oskar Lange won the socialist calculation debate by pointing out pricing is algorithmic
a completely degenerate discipline :mjcry
Yeah i'm not saying it's brainwashing, Rubin is a moron, but it's still a dumb idea to jam dumb prerequisites, especially non-applicable ones. It'd be a different matter if it was just for the students doing humanities degrees.the point of general education is to produce well rounded members of society
shosta getting my feedback for his posts is like training in triple gravity
when he's editing current affairs his power level will be off the charts
that first wank dad thread was like an 80's training montage for your brainthe principal reason I'm back in school is so you'll stop calling me autodidactic as a subtle insult
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My favorite part of that episode was when Matty said that the dang news used to be about reporting what the dang news knew and letting the public decide what to do with it. If there's a hereafter I hope William Randolph Hearst had a good belly laugh at that.
Noah Berlatsky
330.8K Tweets
he/him, bylines NBC Think, Atlantic, WaPo, Pitchfork, Guardian, Foreign Policyno thx
I started listening to Chapo mid 2018. Was their early run also just straight up grillism like it is now?
Noah Berlatsky edits the online comics-and-culture website The Hooded Utilitarian and is the author of the book Wonder Woman: Bondage and Feminism in the Marston/Peter Comics, 1941-48.
If the Saving American History Act of 2020 becomes law, however, school districts using the 1619 Project curriculum could face financial consequences.
Cotton’s legislation labels the project “a distortion of American history.”
“The 1619 Project is left-wing propaganda. It’s revisionist history at its worst,” he said in an interview Friday.
If Cotton’s legislation passes, school districts that embrace the curriculum would no longer qualify for federal professional development funds, money that is intended to improve teacher quality.
Federal funding would also be lowered slightly to reflect any “cost associated with teaching the 1619 Project, including in planning time and teaching time.”
Funds tied to low-income or special-needs students would not be affected.
The secretaries of Education, Agriculture and Health and Human Services would create “prorated formulas” to determine the size of the reduction in federal money for schools adopting the curriculum.
“It won’t be much money,” Cotton said. “But even a penny is too much to go to the 1619 Project in our public schools. The New York Times should not be teaching American history to our kids.”
Capitol Hill isn’t the place where curriculum decisions are typically made, Cotton acknowledged.
If educators want to use the materials, they’ll still be free to do so, he said.
“Curriculum is a matter for local decisions and if local left-wing school boards want to fill their children’s heads with anti-American rot, that’s their regrettable choice. But they ought not to benefit from federal tax dollars to teach America’s children to hate America,” he said.
POLL CHILDREN YOU COWARDSwhat's the deail with this guy... how does one man succeed in being so dumb
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1287824348460593154
https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/1287856764692713477
POLL CHILDREN YOU COWARDSwhat's the deail with this guy... how does one man succeed in being so dumb
You know Musk was a stunted teen for not getting those big brain takes out of his system earlier.
To even entertain the idea it's 3D chess is buffoonish. Weird trolls perhaps at best... But he named his child like a prepackaged Gamer PC Setup, it's probably all earnest.
https://twitter.com/GrrrGraphics/status/1287795419687186438
Does it ?
https://twitter.com/hollywdharriet/status/1287924953644331008
:cac
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1287824348460593154
https://twitter.com/IanwalshDesign/status/1287853917645213696
Classical Liberal mad about someone moving somewhere. :derp
Classical Liberal mad about someone moving somewhere. :derp
https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1285968187994124288
tucker carlson quadrupling down on hydroxychloroquine doctors :heh
remember when tucker was the one who convinced trump to take the virus seriously?I remember that more as him convincing trump to take a chinese communist party virus seriously
tucker carlson quadrupling down on hydroxychloroquine doctors :heh
Except the trials were cut short because people were dying and getting new heart issues. At best it's highly unethical for doctors to prescribe a medicine for COVID that the FDA said is not safe to take for COVID.
tucker carlson quadrupling down on hydroxychloroquine doctors :heh
AFAIK, most current studies internationally (and there's a lot) so far were inconclusive or found it ineffectual. It's certainly not the silver bullet treatment it was hoped to be by its proponents.
In a way, it's the second best outcome for Trump propagandists because they'll continue to pretend it is effective without too much consequences. It's not a dangerous enough medication that too much people should die or be visibly crippled even if they self-medicate without any sort of semi-competent supervision.
Poor Dave is such a lost soul, it is sad to see him flail around trying to be accepted by other wank dads.He is genuinely the most pathetic wank dad. At least wank dadism generally has enough content to be wrong... Rubin's head is so empty that he can't even be wrong
:lol
https://twitter.com/generalityiii/status/128816673965471335
conceptual james
Let me just say what everyone is thinking: Joe Rogan is the new Christopher Hitchens.
My favorite hot take from the live chatQuoteShe is a grown woman and yet she wears makeup, her face is a literal lie, why should we listen to anything she says?
Can definitely imagine Rubin's next book Radicalised: How I, an Intellectual, got Sucked in to the Right Wing which presumably neither of the Don't Burn this Book readers will buy
:smug
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1289040053914808323
i'll admit, my memory's a bit hazy cause i didn't pay that much attention back in those days to politics, but did people make a big stink out of tebow doing that?
"I cannot stop to think that if I lived in a completely white society, we wouldn't hear about the evils of whitey and we could actually discuss the ideas"
I don't get Dave Rubin's turn or evolution of whatever you want to call it. Dude knows he's a grifter. But being another reactionary conservative voice is a really crowded field.
The soul of liberalism, the esteemed institutions of the New York Times and Yale University are lost—forever. Their essence has been drained and replaced with Leftism. As David Burge elegantly puts it, our institutions have been killed, gutted, and will now be worn as a carcass in a demand for respect. This all happened while liberals stood idly by, content to see folks like Rubin and Peterson eaten alive for moving away from the Left.
While ranting about this topic—my primary writing process—I spoke with a friend in the academy. He mentioned that the dividing line isn’t between Left and Right. It’s between the Woke and the non-Woke. That’s correct, and it does—or should—transcend political parties.
And if you work in the media ecosystem under a banner that isn’t explicitly conservative, just try to walk into your office tomorrow and make the case that maybe you should run a truly conservative op-ed by a Republican Senator, even if it’s a viewpoint 58% of Americans agree with. Just see what happens.
But a few brave souls have almost figured out that they need to switch teams or at least begin to befriend conservatives. Take J.K. Rowling, slowly getting red-pilled on trans issues.
Normally I would be gloating. But this is one of those rare times when I am not.
"ringing the alarms against Woke intolerance for years as conservatives were exiled from elite institutions"
Amazing chutzpah to commission that piece from someone who lost a spot at Harvard (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/6/17/18682101/kyle-kashuv-harvard-parkland) for constantly using the n word.
Loomer, Cernovich, and others like them see Kashuv as a sellout too cozy with the Republican establishment, and saw this as an opportunity to hurt him. Loomer even started a Change.org petition to get Harvard to rescind his admission.
https://twitter.com/maxwelltani/status/1289294644514181120
https://twitter.com/sambo2690/status/1289816811903389696https://twitter.com/MarcRowe12/status/1289936815537795073
https://twitter.com/NeilClark66/status/1289818459262648320
brexiters ANNIHILATED
If you're a professional writer and every day you're explaining how most of your audience has misinterpreted what you said, how long until you consider the possibility that you're not very good at your job?
this is like when some tech bro (might have been elon musk even, i can't remember who it was) accidentally reinvented buses :lol
https://twitter.com/RobDownenChron/status/1290134409757130754
In other news a lot of the usual suspects are saying the bodycam footage of G.Floyd's death changes everything and the media is ignoring it. Adams obliged in retweeting a handful of them because of course.
how do teachers kill black people exactly? :doge
There's the same delusions of being a prophet with a supernatural ability to divine the zeitgeist.
how do teachers kill black people exactly? :doge
In other news a lot of the usual suspects are saying the bodycam footage of G.Floyd's death changes everything and the media is ignoring it. Adams obliged in retweeting a handful of them because of course.
i saw the video. so....how exactly are these idiots saying it exonerates chauvin?
ngl, i think i'd hate shapiro a whole lot less if he replaced talking with singing
Speaking of the Shapiro clan, this feels way more "letter of the law but not the spirit of the law" than eating quinoa during Passover.
https://twitter.com/classicallyabby/status/1289244598150156289
I'm not much of one to judge, of course. :dolezal
Holy shit these people are embarassing. How do you guys handle watching this stuff? I can't imagine listening to Ben Shapiro for more than a few seconds at a time, let alone seeking it out.
And his sister lol. #conservativeinfluencer Even though it's only conservatives, I feel sorry for the people getting grifted by these losers
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1290435578782199812
I almost exclusively wear Hawaiian shirts these days :doge
I almost exclusively wear Hawaiian shirts these days :doge
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1290643916828680192
:goty2
I was going to make a snarky comment about Tri suddenly opposing immigration because of MattY's book but I thought that would be ungenerous.
fuck
We don't have enough housing for Americans right now. How are we supposed to find housing for 700 more Americans? And we're not even talking about Canada or Mexico, or the rest of North America.not trying to support Matt here but we could build as much housing as we want, it's just that any significant increase in the supply would lower the value of the property, which many americans have used as an vehicle for accumulation. law of value strikes again :goty2
I was going to make a snarky comment about Tri suddenly opposing immigration because of MattY's book but I thought that would be ungenerous.
fuck
I just want to reiterate how funny I think it is that Matt wrote a book about creating a billion Americans when there is already almost exactly that number of people on both American continents. Reality is truly funnier than fiction
he meant whites :dogeHe wants more people to immigrate here, including Latin Americans! But if those people are already acceptable Americans why do they have to move? Just develop their countries and bring them into the fold.
But if those people are already acceptable Americans why do they have to move?
you should ask the people who moved here why they did it instead of developing their own countriesI said WE should develop THEIR countries. Because everyone has the right to live in a first world country. By extension that means I support immigration, but it has nothing to do with boosting the power of a liberal-democratic superpower to protect the world from a scheming red menace.
This has gotta be the clearest example of terminal lib brain in America. Even Trumpism is significantly more coherent and realistic.
you should ask the people who moved here why they did it instead of developing their own countriesI said WE should develop THEIR countries. Because everyone has the right to live in a first world country.
But if those people are already acceptable Americans why do they have to move?
you should ask the people who moved here why they did it instead of developing their own countries
Airbnb landlord Matthew Yglesias wants more densely packed (yet still affordable, this is Cincinnati) urban housing to be filled with brain drain aspirational middle class candidates from the semi-periphery / periphery...... This is definitely something a Type of Guy would come up with.
Why do residents of the periphery want to come to the imperial core :thinking
hm
In geopolitical competition with China, the PRC's big advantage is that there are way more Chinese people than there are Americans so they can achieve economic parity and clout on the global stage at a much lower level of development. Easy argument.
look I don't have a problem with immigrants, but...
*considers really getting this party started by posting some bernie quotes about open borders*
edit: actually what this convo is really missing is furloughed bore poster occam
All to enhance American power in the struggle with China, don't forget about that
Hmmm..... So you're telling me that some guy who lives off a combination of landlording and fake page hits is worried about an economic conflict with a country who manages to keep some of the value in the production chain inside their borders, despite the majority of the surplus being realized inside the United States?
:thinking
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1290643916828680192
:goty2
you said we shouldn't let so many people in the country so I think you think that we shouldn't let so many people in the country
Holy fuckin shit
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1290641124844085249
Mattyg is worried about America being at a disadvantage to China because it only has a third the population so he wrote a whole book on his solution: change the immigration system in America so that America would also have one billion people :dead :dead :dead
We should let a lot of people into this country! In fact, vastly more than we do already.
Think Canada is trying to double or triple our pop by the end of the centery, a lot of which will be through immigration.
Think Canada is trying to double or triple our pop by the end of the centery, a lot of which will be through immigration.
It might stop looking like 3 extractive industries standing on top of each other under a Ukrainian SS trenchcoat so as to resemble a person then. Godspeed, Klanada. :cancry
you wrote that increasing immigration would necessitate increasing the exploited population of the global south and that it would engender a reactionary backlash from white Americansyou listed two facts. the first is always true and always salient regarding the structural limits to america's prosperity. The second comes into play after a threshold rate but that threshold is probably much higher than the natural rate of "people moving simply because they want to" in a world where every country is prosperous.
do those facts only become true and/or salient at a certain numerical threshold?
A LIMITED WORLD CANNOT SUPPORT UNLIMITED IMMIGRATION
Is there a per capita parallel? I was thinking that perhaps a calamity in human history produced something comparable in that sense.
Native reaction to immigration isn't a central pillar of my argument anyway. Willingly to discard it
now we're talkingYou know what? Maybe I won't discard it.
I may be no Occam, but I'm all good with like having 1/4 less people on this god forsaken planet.
I may be no Occam, but I'm all good with like having 1/4 less people on this god forsaken planet.
I may be no Occam, but I'm all good with like having 1/4 less people on this god forsaken planet.
too bad that won't fix anything
it would hurt if you were one of the 1/4 less :fbmI may be no Occam, but I'm all good with like having 1/4 less people on this god forsaken planet.
too bad that won't fix anything
Wouldn't hurt though...
it would hurt if you were one of the 1/4 less :fbmI may be no Occam, but I'm all good with like having 1/4 less people on this god forsaken planet.
too bad that won't fix anything
Wouldn't hurt though...
kind of a pointless stat in regards to the current conversation but if we all lived at the pop density of metropolitan tokyo the world's pop could fit within the state of california. personally love urban density done well. californians/'murcan govt can't even manage a single high speed rail network between San Fran and LA though so probably not the best place to propose large infrastructure projects.
https://twitter.com/LitAnscombe/status/1291060717139845121He transitioned in a clinic in Moscow, that would be a fitting continuation of his arc
:thinking
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kind of a pointless stat in regards to the current conversation but if we all lived at the pop density of metropolitan tokyo the world's pop could fit within the state of california. personally love urban density done well. californians/'murcan govt can't even manage a single high speed rail network between San Fran and LA though so probably not the best place to propose large infrastructure projects.
Honestly, yeah, I'm down for one super-massive megacity.
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I don’t get it.
Ben Garrison cartoon to subtle for me, I am making progress to become an illiterate cave man again :rejoice
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This thread is going to be awfully quiet this month.I give it a week before: "Well I know I'm supposed to be off the grid, but"
https://mobile.twitter.com/RubinReport/status/1289197141336797190
What's disgusting is ben drawing trump as a normal sized person. Is ben embarrassed by what trump really looks like?
Peterson got Covid
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSunUS/status/1291383646700670983
"He was put on a whole bunch of, kind of preemptively, he was put on anti-virals and things," Mikhaila Peterson said.
"I don't know if that was necessary, because his symptoms weren't that bad -- he didn't have a cough, he had a mild fever, but they just put him on everything.
The virus posed little problem for Mikhalia, her child, or her husband, but it had a poor affect for Dr. Peterson, who ended up with pneumonia—for the second time this year. Compounding the problem was that his doctors were treating the virus with am antibiotic called fluoroquinolones.
This drug, said Mikhalia, is toxic for people suffering benzodiazepine withdrawal.
Bruh how many fucking benzos a day was Jorp taking if he's still in withdraws after a year+, including being in an coma for months where presumably he was not taking any benzos
wait, he went to serbia for medical help? as in, there was some medical treatment that even RUSSIA thought might be too unethical? :doge
Bruh how many fucking benzos a day was Jorp taking if he's still in withdraws after a year+, including being in an coma for months where presumably he was not taking any benzos
Bruh how many fucking benzos a day was Jorp taking if he's still in withdraws after a year+, including being in an coma for months where presumably he was not taking any benzos
Bruh how many fucking benzos a day was Jorp taking if he's still in withdraws after a year+, including being in an coma for months where presumably he was not taking any benzos
https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1291526945319145472
I hate this man so much.
One-time University of Toronto professor and clinical pyschologist Jordan Peterson has another fight on his hands these days.
The 58-year-old Edmonton native who drew attention in his U of T days for battling Bill C-16 is, according to the UK tabloid The Sun, now fighting off the conronavirus and a year-long battle with prescription drug addition.
According to his daughter Mikhaila who has been feeding the Sun exclusively the details of her father’s health battles, Jordan Peterson caught coronavirus in a Serbian hospital while recovering from an over-reliance on the anti-anxiety drug Benzodiazepine.
Also according to his daughter, Peterson is battling pneumonia for the second time this year.
https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1291526945319145472
I hate this man so much.
https://twitter.com/hannahgais/status/1291818512818806784
:lol
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Sam Seder who is not a BAD LEFTY is guest hosting for Chris Haynes tonight on MSNBC.
https://twitter.com/posadist_trapgd/status/1291770025221795846
More than twice as many people have already died from Covid than die during a really bad flu season, but okay.
Lynchburg, VA — The Executive Committee of Liberty University’s Board of Trustees, acting on behalf of the full Board, met today and requested that Jerry Falwell, Jr. take an indefinite leave of absence from his roles as President and Chancellor of Liberty University, to which he has agreed, effective immediately.
RIP Jr., died forfree speechTrailer Park Boys.
https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1291526945319145472
I hate this man so much.
This dude is amazing
didn't know dinesh was a sonic fan
Dinesh Joseph D'Souza (/dɪˈnɛʃ dəˈsuːzə/; born April 25, 1961) is an Indian-born American far-right political provocateur, author, filmmaker, conspiracy theorist and convicted felon.[1][2][3][4][5]
With the most :brain posters, as with mass shooters and serial killers, you can spend a lot of time trying to reconstruct their psyche and understand the internal logic that motivates them, and ~80% of the time you find out they just hate women.
are we going to have a Bore watch of Trump Card?
twitter.com/FredNietzky/status/1292176232755400705The perfect example? Furries, who are pariahs and predominantly male (a portion of which are probably on the spectrum, like Bronies). Mhm. OK.
twitter.com/FredNietzky/status/1292176232755400705The perfect example? Furries, who are pariahs and predominantly male (a portion of which are probably on the spectrum, like Bronies). Mhm. OK.
Rehabilitating the Unabomber, too. :donot
This dude is amazing
https://twitter.com/FredNietzky/status/1291191278802272257spoiler (click to show/hide)(https://i.imgur.com/JS0MN6B.gif)[close]
Ben Shapiro bought a url to set up an "Antifa Recruitment Official" page.
twitter.com/seanhannity/status/1292858694464610308Not as many "no billionaires = no jobs" replies as I would have expected.
accidentlyleftwing.com
twitter.com/MarkAmesExiled/status/1292807560949571585I'm no huge fan of our GreenDU, but "hanging out with" looks more like "also there" at what appears to be an official meet and greet or some press conference.
He's clearly getting aroused and losing his train of thought :lol :lol :lol
also :jeanluc
also :dead at those lyrics
also :camby at this dude being in his 30s and thinking he has to comment on vulgar songs and shit. Breh, that song ain't for you and you can easily avoid it if it offends your sensibilities.
Aw shucks, he's such a goofy murderer.
(https://i.imgur.com/UNXpgvz.png)
wait, how is he still filming for a movie that supposedly already came out?
https://twitter.com/LizardRumsfeld/status/1293153438294056961https://twitter.com/Ptiki/status/1293162551069609985
committing patricide to own the postmodern neomarxists
just got a Hulu ad of Sebastian Gorka literally selling fish oil
The original wank dad thread was started a little less than three years ago. I know they say all politics is sexual pathology but jorp going down this tortured path and spinning up an entire platform because his daughter got into a relationship with an unwell Marxist-Leninist...He spent ten years perfecting Maps of Meaning :bolo
The original wank dad thread was started a little less than three years ago. I know they say all politics is sexual pathology but jorp going down this tortured path and spinning up an entire platform because his daughter got into a relationship with an unwell Marxist-Leninist...
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just got a Hulu ad of Sebastian Gorka literally selling fish oilI WAS SKEPTICAL TOO BUT IT'S REAL
turns out that ad is 11 months old (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzGmOuF9cMg)... sad
I thought M.Peterson was with that British ex-kickboxer allegedly running camgirls warehouses in Romania ?Andrey Igor Morgan is the upgrade? :leon :heh
how can one man's life produce so much lore (talking about Peterson, not the war hero)
how can one man's life produce so much lore (talking about Peterson, not the war hero)
https://twitter.com/LizardRumsfeld/status/1293153438294056961
committing patricide to own the postmodern neomarxists
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1293037736639725569
did they get bigger? 👀
https://twitter.com/steve_hanke/status/1292687117383065600
https://twitter.com/steve_hanke/status/1292687117383065600
lol what the hell does this even mean
it comes from their human freedom index report they put out every year but the points aren't ever explained, it's just a subjective ranking like when I say Great Rumbler is a 9.5 and Nintex is a 0
Also, apparently the data is from 2019. So uh, it's not even coronavirus related and the guy seemed to made it all up to prove a nonexistent point?
https://twitter.com/scottcobb/status/1292694221460328448
https://twitter.com/scottcobb/status/1292694221460328448
Also, apparently the data is from 2019. So uh, it's not even coronavirus related and the guy seemed to made it all up to prove a nonexistent point?
I think he's just saying that because people in Vietnam don't have much freedom of movement in general, the coronavirus is less able to spread.
Rebellion PAC's premiere ad. To survive, we've had to go numb for the last 4 years. Ordinary Americans are traumatized by the attacks on their democracy, their stability and their future.
It's time to fight back.
https://twitter.com/evopsychgoogle/status/1293395150060675073the ea/rationalist sphere is severely underrepresented itt and is in a way higher weight class than e.g. rubin or bill mitchell
Did anyone ever post this?
https://twitter.com/evopsychgoogle/status/1287292264306233346
https://mobile.twitter.com/RationalDis/status/1293292933807058948
That reads like Club de Cordeliers deranged Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez article. :lol
Don't agree with you trying to make the man who saved us from rear engine American made cars a wank dad, though.
:bolo
MMT guys don't even read late Abba Lerner though :mjcry
https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/1978/06/1978b_bpea_lerner.pdfspoiler (click to show/hide)The founder of functional finance being a rational expectations guy is a pretty good troll :money[close]
Every country fought the war on a credit card, the only difference is 1) germany lost 2) the british and french could tap into american money marketscredit cards did not yet exist during WW1, which is why they all went bankrupt.
Every country fought the war on a credit card, the only difference is 1) germany lost 2) the british and french could tap into american money markets
The U.S. and U.K. paid for ~25% of their war costs with income taxes.When Germany raises funds for its war through public bonds and doesn't repay the bonds after the war, that's effectively a tax! The problem is that the bonds became monetized in Germany in comparison to the UK or France, which is why Germany had shortages. And this was in turn a consequence of those latter countries having a deeper and more developed finance capitalism than Germany did at the time.
Not super familiar with the tax history of France, but I believe they implemented one around the start of the war and raised rates during it. Again iirc, it didn't get much traction since it started part and parcel with the war.
Regardless, and specifically as it pertains to the world's sole superpower adopting chartalism, sometimes empires do fall and the standards in those situations aren't the same as when they're ascendant. To my knowledge present day chartalists don't dwell on this too much.
and it seems to me/that you lived your life/like a grifter in the wind
But what was the original ban for?
When Germany raises funds for its war through public bonds and doesn't repay the bonds after the war, that's effectively a tax!
Benji’s got a good thread to remember Bill with.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Ad_Inifinitum/status/1252717799413370880
I like your creative way of interpreting expropriation, we need that kind of ingenuity in the socialist movement. :likeI'm being cheeky but only to point out why "germany didn't raise taxes" can't explain chartalism's failure in the german empire. It did tax the public, just not legally.
It's not disingenuous to ask what happened to a country where Chartalism held away (which was the German Empire).It is disingenuous to pretend the economic consequences are primarily the result of the financing decisions of the government. To the extent that Germany expected to plunder its borders, there was a shortfall. But inflation was stabilized to 2% by the end of the war and it didn't become a problem again until the French decided to fuck Germany to death.
twitter.com/Joelmpetlin/status/1294378635231662080At the end of the day, you want your plumber to win the national plumbing cup.
And yet he's out there spinning like a derviche for some of them.
:curious
https://twitter.com/Joelmpetlin/status/1294378635231662080
And yet he's out there spinning like a derviche for some of them.
:curious
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That can't be real...
https://twitter.com/UweBollocks/status/1294627328824422401
https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1294680730283454464spoiler (click to show/hide)https://twitter.com/MonValleyAF/status/1294683115730993152[close]
....do they not realize there are black hispanics...?
African-Americans come from Africa. :morans
What about the ones who come from Jamaica
Zion-Americans. :birdman
https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1294680730283454464spoiler (click to show/hide)https://twitter.com/MonValleyAF/status/1294683115730993152[close]
Jokes so bad I made them several days ago.....do they not realize there are black hispanics...?
African-Americans come from Africa. :morans
What about the ones who come from Jamaica
Zion-Americans. :birdman
https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/1294309741229875200
Are we getting CPAC next year? :mjcry
https://twitter.com/mschlapp/status/1294361206560612353
Just noticed Twitter finally let people restrict their replies to people the account follows... it's a sad day for posters 😞Twitter is ruining everything, clowns :gaas
Do they actually think the all meat diet works?
Why are private bathrooms, both in our homes and in commercial establishments, so much cleaner and less smelly than public bathrooms? Could it be because they are privately owned? Here, in miniature, is a test case of private versus public ownership, ie capitalism v. socialismThis is one of the all time greats :rejoice
that tweet about bathrooms is heroin for a wank junkie like me. straight into my fucking veins, dinesh! :noah
https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1295027713145806848
https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1295021989174947841
https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1294347198302322688
The cultural left in this country is responsible for causing 9/11 … Some leading figures in this group are Hillary Clinton, Ted Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Boxer, George Soros, Michael Moore, Bill Moyers, and Noam Chomsky. Moreover the cultural left includes organizations such as the American Civil Liberties Union, the National Organization for Women, People for the American Way, Planned Parenthood, Human Rights Watch, and moveon.org.
https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1295021989174947841
Under D’Souza’s editorship, the paper published a “lighthearted interview” with a former member of the Ku Klux Klan, accompanied by a staged photo of a black man hanging from a tree; an article about affirmative action entitled “Dis Sho’ Ain’t No Jive, Bro,” written in Ebonics; and the names of members of the Gay Student Alliance. In his memoir, Stress Test, former Treasury secretary Tim Geithner, who attended Dartmouth at the same time as D’Souza, recalls running into him at a coffee shop and asking him “how it felt to be such a dick.”
D’Souza allows that some of his behavior may have been “sophomoric.” But, as the leader of the young conservative counter-Establishment, he got national attention. “Here I am. I’m 20 years old, 21, and I find myself being written about in The New York Times and Newsweek,” D’Souza recalls.
https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1294021145272954889
Can we extend the experiment to abstinence before marriage ?
:whatsthedealQuote from: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/08/dinesh-dsouza-is-making-a-comeback/567233/The cultural left in this country is responsible for causing 9/11 … Some leading figures in this group are Hillary Clinton, Ted Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Boxer, George Soros, Michael Moore, Bill Moyers, and Noam Chomsky. Moreover the cultural left includes organizations such as the American Civil Liberties Union, the National Organization for Women, People for the American Way, Planned Parenthood, Human Rights Watch, and moveon.org.
Guess not.
only the worst, dumbest parts of left discourse make it this far
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1295457067831119872
tbh, i really don't get that iglesias tweet but seeing "pmc" in reference to educated upper classes bred to effectively manage us just makes me think of mgs. who/what ivy league profs is he referencing as being concerned about these people "infiltrating" political movements? :brain :doge
https://mobile.twitter.com/nikhil_palsingh/status/1295088241964724224I dunno who any of these people are, am I missing out?
:thinking
I'm certain you've heard of Adolph Reed before considering how often he gets name dropped by Amber Lee Frost and friendsI've only read one of her essays before, sorry. I don't even know what her political positions are tbh
QuoteThey readily accept the brute reality of America’s racial history and of racism’s toll. They argue, however, that the problems now bedeviling America — such as wealth inequality, police brutality and mass incarceration — affect Black and brown Americans, but also large numbers of working class and poor white Americans.
The most powerful progressive movements, they say, take root in the fight for universal programs. That was true of the laws that empowered labor organizing and established mass jobs programs during the New Deal, and it’s true of the current struggles for free public college tuition, a higher minimum wage, reworked police forces and single-payer health care.
NYT read settlers
Edit: I'm sure their spotlight of Adolf Reed, Cornel West and Bhaskar as well as the "class first" politics they're supposed to represent is genuine
True.https://twitter.com/Lunalore/status/1295561325280727040
Predictions?Let's fucking go:
twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1295804684670832642
Jonathan Bait
Those words AOC used were really not obscure.
https://twitter.com/jonathanchait/status/1296063864388431874
The dum dums at state schools don't know what misogyny meansJonathan Bait
Yglesias baits
Chait can't help himself
Also going to assume that Chait is not up to date on the lingo kids these days are using (as evidenced above)
https://twitter.com/jonathanchait/status/1296063864388431874
Predictions?
https://mobile.twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1295804684670832642
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.me trying to read this post
https://twitter.com/Moshe_Hoffman/status/1295938205229838337
https://twitter.com/Moshe_Hoffman/status/1295938213287059457
https://twitter.com/Moshe_Hoffman/status/1295938219016519680
I can't find it right now, but the "press conference" that Jacob Wohl did sometime last year where people were just yelling at him and throwing donuts was pretty great.
Predictions?
https://mobile.twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1295804684670832642
It’s happening!
https://mobile.twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1296155509108678656
It’s happening!
https://mobile.twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1296155509108678656
https://twitter.com/dpovey1/status/1296294375987662848
fact check: https://twitter.com/annakhachiyan/status/1296451243808829441
Rudy is just drunk thoIt’s happening!
https://mobile.twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1296155509108678656
You hate to see it, but Giuliani delivered the biggest scoop of all time.spoiler (click to show/hide)spoiler (click to show/hide)JK he just got two doctors to say Biden has dementia :boring :snore :cmonson
https://mobile.twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1296531518547021830
Kinda rich coming from a guy who forgets twitter isn’t google.
https://mobile.twitter.com/RPDtweets/status/1295723846537019395[close][close]
fact check: https://twitter.com/annakhachiyan/status/1296451243808829441
what! loomer looks like she got a face lift after melting a mike myers mask onto her skin
Falwell Jr. doing well.
https://mobile.twitter.com/northworstsem/status/1296246700802281472
the second tweet is even better :lol
https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/1296654224827092993
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Yes but what do they have that produces valuehttps://youtu.be/2uKLTtVqQpE
serious meme discussion
https://youtu.be/LKfDSMkmqAY
Would it be homophobic to note how Glenn seems to be drawn to troubled young men beset by woke mobs
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1296518855691390977This coming from Ben Shapiro :existential
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1296518855691390977does this apply to palestinians :curious
https://mobile.twitter.com/Aaron4KS37/status/1297413515863625728And this is how you get lifelong conservatives :rejoice
This kid's got a future
*The Kansas House of RepresentativesTHIS is what the drama's over? :heh everyone should log the fuck off
Reed also was a founder of the US Labor partyThis is the Lyndon LaRouche Party? :heh :heh :heh
Uhh how else is the left going to learn to stop falling for absurd sex panicsbiden, trump and clinton before them all proved that shid don't matter to the majority :trumps they had to manufacture some shid with warren against bern dawg he was so clean and still it didn't matter to the majority :lol
Reed also was a founder of the US Labor partyThis is the Lyndon LaRouche Party? :heh :heh :heh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po4adxJxqZk
A History of the American Left
https://twitter.com/PerBylund/status/1297537829615149058
Missed the part of the Coleman saga where Greenwald said it was a way of keeping working class people from running for office (because the proletariat loves doing revenge porn?).
Greenwald's husband needs to limit his screen time or something.
Missed the part of the Coleman saga where Greenwald said it was a way of keeping working class people from running for office (because the proletariat loves doing revenge porn?).
Greenwald's husband needs to limit his screen time or something.
His husband used to unplug his router, he might need to start doing that again.
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1296518855691390977
This is the part where I note how Glenn's ignored multiple family dinners to argue with people on Twitter.
I have Infinite Jest because it was $2 and it has a lot of pages and I felt like it would make good tinder. And Ham on Rye is a good book.
I have Infinite Jest because it was $2 and it has a lot of pages and I felt like it would make good tinder. And Ham on Rye is a good book.
It's okay, don't let the matriarchy tell you what you can't read. Stand up for yourself.
https://twitter.com/PopulismUpdates/status/1297947032305324032
https://twitter.com/MchughJess/status/1297908630986076166
Well go on. Why might Ernest be a possible red flag on a man's bookshelf?
Well go on. Why might Ernest be a possible red flag on a man's bookshelf?(https://i.imgur.com/iUOSGs0.jpg) :stahp
Well go on. Why might Ernest be a possible red flag on a man's bookshelf?(https://i.imgur.com/iUOSGs0.jpg) :stahp
Well go on. Why might Ernest be a possible red flag on a man's bookshelf?(https://i.imgur.com/iUOSGs0.jpg) :stahp
1. I actually don't know. Never read any David Foster Wallace. Committed suicide is all I know and that I guess he was a writer that bent "the rulez" or something in literature. Long story short, not sure what male caricature is associated with DFW obsession.
https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/1298328529042468864
As others have said if you aren't judging him on his actions when he was a minor then you've got a year to work with.turns out that's probably too long a timeframe too
Passow’s relationship with Coleman ran into trouble quickly, even as she remained impressed by the drive of the young political candidate, and the two spoke of starting a life together. According to Passow, one particular incident irreparably broke their relationship. In a hot tub at an Airbnb in Kansas City, she said, the two were discussing Coleman’s interest in a threesome on December 27, 2019. Passow said it wasn’t her thing, but maybe as a birthday present she’d break up with him for just one day and he could do one. Coleman didn’t like the joke, she recalled. “He sat there for a few seconds, then he jumped on top of me, put his hands around my throat and started squeezing, and slapped me three times, and said ‘I don’t know where the fuck you think you’re going,’” Passow recalled, and said she pushed him off of her.
the claim that starbucks is “entirely dependent” on a “marxist framework” when they post pro-blm on their social media didnt trip any alarms for you?I'm don't know what's real or what's not anymore. My detector is completely broken
https://web.archive.org/web/20200818071225/https://quillette.com/2020/08/16/the-challenge-of-marxism/
Explains Marxism as the belief that classes exist and the ruling classes do oppression, without any discussion of capital, labor...he literally said marxism is when you believe there are groups and that one group has more power than the others.
Adams said he wasn’t meaning to accuse Joe Biden of being possessed by Satan but that “it would look exactly like this” if he were.
(...)
“Did you know if you took the capital letter J—just imagine the capital letter J in your mind—now think of the next letter in ‘Joe.’ It’s an O. Now just move with your mind the O to the left until it’s on top of the J. It’s a backward six,”
https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1298666009621082113
Matt Walsh having another normal one
QuoteAdams said he wasn’t meaning to accuse Joe Biden of being possessed by Satan but that “it would look exactly like this” if he were.
(...)
“Did you know if you took the capital letter J—just imagine the capital letter J in your mind—now think of the next letter in ‘Joe.’ It’s an O. Now just move with your mind the O to the left until it’s on top of the J. It’s a backward six,”
https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/trump-world-favorite-persuader-scott-adams-sees-satanic-coincidences-in-biden-campaign/ (https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/trump-world-favorite-persuader-scott-adams-sees-satanic-coincidences-in-biden-campaign/)
“How many people or entities do you know who prefer to live underground? I can think of Satan living in Hell and—who would be another person who loves to live underground? Could it be basement-dwelling Biden?” Adams said. “I only know two people who are famous for living underground. Can you think of even a third one? I don’t think so.”
I'd think Scott Adams is just a troll because his shit is always so wooden and ludicrous... But between what I know of him and how long he's been at it, I think he's serious.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilberito
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2b/DilBeriTO.jpg)QuoteThe product failed to catch on in the market, leading Adams "several years and several million dollars later" to sell off his intellectual property and exit the business. Adams himself noted "[t]he mineral fortification was hard to disguise, and because of the veggie and legume content, three bites of the Dilberito made you fart so hard your intestines formed a tail."[4] The New York Times noted the burrito "could have been designed only by a food technologist or by someone who eats lunch without much thought to taste."
"I was horrified to find that most things have almost no nutrition," said Adams, a practicing vegetarian for the last eight years.
"I know that diet is the number one cause of health-related problems in the world," Adams said. "I figured I could put a dent in that problem and make some money at the same time."
The market research behind the concept was simple: "There's six billion people in the world, and they all eat," said Adams.
The idea behind affirmations is that you simply write down your goals 15 times a day and somehow, as if by magic, coincidences start to build until you achieve your objective against all odds.
Prior to my Dilbert success, I used affirmations on a string of hugely unlikely goals that all materialized in ways that seemed miraculous. (...)
But some of my goals involved neither hard work nor skill of any kind. I succeeded with those too, against all odds. Those are harder to explain, at least for me, since the most common explanation is that they are a delusion. I found my experience with affirmations fascinating and puzzling, and so I wrote about it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilberito
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2b/DilBeriTO.jpg)QuoteThe product failed to catch on in the market, leading Adams "several years and several million dollars later" to sell off his intellectual property and exit the business. Adams himself noted "[t]he mineral fortification was hard to disguise, and because of the veggie and legume content, three bites of the Dilberito made you fart so hard your intestines formed a tail."[4] The New York Times noted the burrito "could have been designed only by a food technologist or by someone who eats lunch without much thought to taste."
I don't like to signal boost random freaks on Twitter
but ...
GoetheEXCUSE ME
what the fuck is that even for
Josef FritzlQuote“How many people or entities do you know who prefer to live underground? I can think of Satan living in Hell and—who would be another person who loves to live underground? Could it be basement-dwelling Biden?” Adams said. “I only know two people who are famous for living underground. Can you think of even a third one? I don’t think so.”
:what
Tim pool has been interesting to watch over the last 2 years as he slowly realizes the democrats are just snake oil salesmen
It’s the same as his first they literally didn’t change the platform
Tim finally swallowed the Brain Force Plus.
- He had swallowed it a long time ago, but as slowly been showing the symptoms
No one here is talking about the substance of Trump's 2nd term agenda instead just poisoning the well about the messenger. Personally I agree with Tim that the list of goals would be a strong path forward for our country.
Tim embodies the qualities that every aspiring liberal, in the classical sense of the word, should hope to imitate. An openness to have discussions about any topic, no matter whether you agree with them or not, and change your mind according to the evidence you are presented.
Such a great journalist with integrity. So little of that in the media nowadays...
IDW rule: When someone is called a grifter, it means they gave someone the butthurt.
You all really need better vocabulary understanding. There is no grift with Pool. There's no grift with Rubin. Rubin admits he is more right leaning now. He is aging and his life is changing.
A grifter is someone like John Kasich who tries to embed himself with whatever he thinks will make him popular at the moment. He doesn't really stand for anything but his own political gain. Glen Beck was a grifter, but maybe he's more sincere now. I can't tell yet.
When Dave or Tim think something is bad, they truly think it is bad. They may end up being wrong, but they aren't deceiving or swindling people.
The disinformation campaign is telling the public there isn't real problems with mail in voting.
And if the push for mail voting was coming from the Right, then the press and Lebron would be against it.
Because they are not human beings anymore, but human creatures behaving in predictable ways to curated stimuli.
Your desire to downvote this is creature behavior. To rebelliously upvote it is creature behavior. Say something in response. Don't ask what the problems with mail in voting is because I would just search for articles which is the thing you should be doing instead of asking me to do it for you.
Sam Seder and his ilk are terrible people who attack those more successful and those who are actively helping others. They are some of the worst type of humans you can get to before you reach the level of rapists, murderers and tyrants.
They deserve no apology for they are jealous, petty, miserable losers who want to drag the whole world down with them. Anyone breaking free from that or helping others is a threat to them.
I miss Pool's live shoots. I watch less of his commentary stuff. I found his info on events he was actually at and experienced to be more interesting than him just recounting a news item for the day. However, he does prep himself for a topic. His Rogan appearance with Jack and his Twitter partner was great.
Rubin does interviews for a talk shot. He's a talk show host.
Here's the dishonest thing: Lesser creatures attack these two as though they are philosophers when they never claim to be. Be very wary of the people who are doing this. It comes from a place of smallness.
It's the same as when you hear "here comes another IDW grifter" said by someone to attack another person. You can be assured that the person making the accusation is trying to grift off the popularity of the IDW by lazily attacking them and hoping to get caught in the algo loops.
Remember, Pakman asked Pool how to get more views and Pool told him to be himself and not do the orange man bad thing.
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1298739578052829184
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Giving it a couple of days for the mask to fall off.
I trust men's vibe creep of other men more than a woman's vibe.
The man's creep radar is based on actual danger. He doesn't care about the looks of the guy or the girl, he just senses that the guy is untrustworthy.
A woman's creep radar seems to go off and on depending on their situation and the attractiveness of the man. There's also manipulative people and proclaiming someone a creep or not creep can play into power games. A woman's sense of a man being creep will be taken more seriously or with more reaction than a general proclamation of someone being a creep. That can be abused by manipulative people.
This is just my view from my experience. I see men keep men they see as creeps away from positions of power with women while I've seen women interact with that same creep in various ways depending on what they think they get out of it.
Sam Seder is the dishonest left.
I agree that the left needs to figure out how to be cool and funny again. Most of their stuff comes across as mean or pandering.
Today’s edition of BLM 101, Volume 5 will focus on the sports world’s reaction to the police shooting of Jacob Blake in Kenosha, Wisconsin. BLM 101 is dedicated to educating athletes on the true agenda and negative consequences of the Black Lives Matter movement. BLM 101 tries to avoid snark and ridicule. We ask that you share the link of this article with your favorite athlete.
...
A day after LeBron James declared that black people live in daily fear of police violence and that black men are targeted for death by police, his disciples backed him up en masse.
James is the Al Sharpton of sports, an agent of chaos working closely with politicians who use racial division to rally voter support. Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and black ministers can no longer deliver black voters to polling booths. The task has now been handed to James, Colin Kaepernick and black athletes. It’s their job to inflame the emotions of black people and get us to vote for Joe Biden like our lives depended on it.
...
I’m referencing Democratic politicians because LeBron James and his disciples seem to believe the Democratic Party is going to save black people from the “systemic racism” found within the criminal justice system.
It’s a joke. The architects of the system are using LeBron James and athletes to point black people at the wrong target. The athletes are useful idiots. They’ve been talked into dedicating themselves to ensuring that career criminals are unharmed while resisting arrest and refusing to comply with police instructions.
...
King, LeBron, Doc Rivers, Michael Malone, the Toronto Raptors, the Detroit Lions, the NBA, the NFL and the woke sports media have all been incentivized to keep the focus on the lowest-hanging fruit — working-class cops.
This is what passes for speaking truth to power in the age of social media.
Blame the cops. Work to elect the career politicians who created the system.
If you want Jason Whitlock for your TV or radio show or podcast, contact gary@outkick.com.
cigars and male friendship being in the same grouping is fantastic
getting cucked by the pool boy / paying him off / endorse Donald Trump
Ben Shapiro needs to get in touch with Jason Whitlock :americanQuote from: https://www.outkick.com/career-politicians-who-created-systemic-unfairness-are-playing-lebron-and-his-disciples-for-suckers/Today’s edition of BLM 101, Volume 5 will focus on the sports world’s reaction to the police shooting of Jacob Blake in Kenosha, Wisconsin. BLM 101 is dedicated to educating athletes on the true agenda and negative consequences of the Black Lives Matter movement. BLM 101 tries to avoid snark and ridicule. We ask that you share the link of this article with your favorite athlete.
...
A day after LeBron James declared that black people live in daily fear of police violence and that black men are targeted for death by police, his disciples backed him up en masse.
James is the Al Sharpton of sports, an agent of chaos working closely with politicians who use racial division to rally voter support. Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and black ministers can no longer deliver black voters to polling booths. The task has now been handed to James, Colin Kaepernick and black athletes. It’s their job to inflame the emotions of black people and get us to vote for Joe Biden like our lives depended on it.
...
I’m referencing Democratic politicians because LeBron James and his disciples seem to believe the Democratic Party is going to save black people from the “systemic racism” found within the criminal justice system.
It’s a joke. The architects of the system are using LeBron James and athletes to point black people at the wrong target. The athletes are useful idiots. They’ve been talked into dedicating themselves to ensuring that career criminals are unharmed while resisting arrest and refusing to comply with police instructions.
...
King, LeBron, Doc Rivers, Michael Malone, the Toronto Raptors, the Detroit Lions, the NBA, the NFL and the woke sports media have all been incentivized to keep the focus on the lowest-hanging fruit — working-class cops.
This is what passes for speaking truth to power in the age of social media.
Blame the cops. Work to elect the career politicians who created the system.
If you want Jason Whitlock for your TV or radio show or podcast, contact gary@outkick.com.
Whitlock's schtick is to criticize all liberal/left black activism, but ostensibly from the perspective of black empowerment. That makes his rhetoric a bit different from generic Candace Owens types.
ie when BLM first became a thing he was telling everyone that making police wear body cameras was "the okeydoke" because it was really about expanding the surveillance state.
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1298739578052829184
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Giving it a couple of days for the mask to fall off.
Before the flight home after an all-team meeting, me and my coworkers had a wank dad discussion where one particular guy started extolling the virtues of Steven Crowder and Ben Shapiro.
He was the only white guy in the group so once he left, his boss (who was black) went on a rant - uttering the phrase, "CAC" a lot. First time I actually heard it from someone IRL. :dead
https://twitter.com/Yair_Rosenberg/status/1299138038635921408
That Kelly guy is championing a dude who murdered two people?
That Kelly guy is championing a dude who murdered two people? :picard
It finally happened. We have lethal battles in the streets between the two tribes of our polarized politics. This week, a 17-year-old man, Kyle Rittenhouse, brought a rifle to Kenosha, Wisconsin, in order, it appears, to protect the businesses that were being burned down or ransacked by rioters after the police shooting of alleged rapist, Jacob Blake. In a series of skirmishes between Rittenhouse and BLM and Antifa activists on the streets of Kenosha, three men pursuing Rittenhouse were shot and two killed by the vigilante in what appears to be some kind of self-defense.
I’m doing my best to convey the gist of what happened — and there’s an excellent, detailed report of the incident from the NYT — without justifying any of it. No excuse for vigilantism; no excuse for looting, rioting and arson. The truth is: even a few minutes of chaos and violence can contain a universe of confusing events, motives and dynamics that are extremely hard to parse immediately. And yet it is the imperative of our current culture that we defend one side as blameless and the other as the source of all evil.
In the current chaos, I’ve come to appreciate Marcus Aurelius’s maxim that “The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” And I have to say I’m horribly conflicted on some issues. I’m supportive of attempts to interrogate the sins of the past, in particular the gruesome legacy of slavery and segregation, and their persistent impact on the present. And in that sense, I’m a supporter of the motives of the good folks involved with the Black Lives Matter movement. But I’m equally repelled by the insistent attempt by BLM and its ideological founders to malign and dismiss the huge progress we’ve made, to re-describe the American experiment in freedom as one utterly defined by racism, and to call the most tolerant country on the planet, with unprecedented demographic diversity, a form of “white supremacy”. I’m tired of hearing Kamala Harris say, as she did yesterday: “The reality is that the life of a black person in America has never been treated as fully human.” This is what Trump has long defended as “truthful hyperbole” — which is a euphemism for a lie.
But here’s one thing I have absolutely no conflict about. Rioting and lawlessness is evil. And any civil authority that permits, condones or dismisses violence, looting and mayhem in the streets disqualifies itself from any legitimacy. This comes first. If one party supports everything I believe in but doesn’t believe in maintaining law and order all the time and everywhere, I’ll back a party that does. In that sense, I’m a one-issue voter, because without order, there is no room for any other issue. Disorder always and everywhere begets more disorder; the minute the authorities appear to permit such violence, it is destined to grow. And if liberals do not defend order, fascists will.
I find the interaction between some cops and vigilantes in Kenosha deeply, deeply disturbing. Non-college-educated white men make up a lot of the police forces and military in the US — and Trump has big margins of support among them, counts them as his own cops and soldiers, and signals that he will always have their back. As the far left has indiscriminately smeared the police, and promised to abolish or defund them, they have helped Trump co-opt them in a terrifying dynamic. As Trump was eulogizing a murdered policeman, the leftist mob outside was in the midst of a “Fuck The Police” demonstration. If the Dems want to fight an election on that choice — and some do — they’re engaged on a suicide mission.
And let’s be frank about this and call this by its name: this is very Weimar. The center has collapsed. Armed street gangs of far right and far left are at war on the streets. Tribalism is intensifying in every nook and cranny of the culture. The establishment right and mainstream left tolerate their respective extremes because they hate each other so much.
The pattern is textbook, if you learn anything from history: an economic crisis resulting in mass unemployment; the pent-up psychological disorders a long period of lockdown can and will unleash; a failure of nerve on the part of liberals to defend the values and institutions of liberal democracy, and of conservatives to keep their own ranks free of raw demagogues and bigots. But critically: a growing sense of disorder and violence and rioting as simply the background noise; and a sense that authorities do not have the strength or the stomach to restore order. What most people want in that kind of nerve-wracking instability is a figure who will come in and stamp it out. In Trump, we have someone who would happily trample any liberal democratic norm to do it. And the left seems to be all but begging him to do it — if only to prove them right.
Yes, we still have an election. But barring a landslide victory for either party, it will be the beginning and not the end of the raw struggle for power in a fast-collapsing republic. In a close race, Trump will never concede, and if he is somehow forced to, he will mount a campaign from the outside to delegitimize the incoming president, backed by street-gangs and propaganda outfits. If Biden wins, we may have one last chance for the center to hold — and what few hopes I have rest on this.
But Biden, let’s face it, is weak and a party man to his core, and has surrendered to the far left at almost every single turn — from abortion to immigration to race. You’d be a fool I think, to believe he could resist their fanaticism in office, or that if he does, he won’t be toast in a struggle to succeed him. He remains the only choice in this election. But on the central question of civil order, he blew it last week and so did the Dems. Biden needs a gesture of real Sister Souljah clarity to put daylight between him and the violent left.
how much is that guy getting paid again :mjcry
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/g5pn87/free-speech-crusader-steven-pinker-blocking-anyone-mentioning-his-epstein-ties?utm_source=reddit.com
https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1299721477701406720
when rogan went after carlos mencia for stealing jokes ::) nobody stealing rogan's trash ass jokes :lol why was he so mad :confused
might actually prefer mencia to rogan on stand up, dane cook over both of them
https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1299721477701406720
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1300466213047296000zionists :neogaf ask ya boy if herd immunity is acceptable in tel aviv :maduro
you move to the country and discover half the people around you are addicted to oxy, fuck their cousins or both. wyd?
https://twitter.com/KyleKashuv/status/1299931048340586499
https://twitter.com/Yair_Rosenberg/status/1299138038635921408
I'm having a $6 Spanish latte right now... prefer this to farmwork tbh
That's cause you a soyboy.I'm 100% sure I could beat your ass you fucking Canadian freak
That's cause you a soyboy.I'm 100% sure I could beat your ass you fucking Canadian freak
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1300551255073447938https://twitter.com/SeanTrende/status/1300440559509700609
It’s spelled Wooster.
That's cause you a soyboy.I'm 100% sure I could beat your ass you fucking Canadian freak
Tough talk for a soyboy. I've been watching One Punch Man for the last 3 hours so I doubt it.
The alpaca thing is confusing tho....of all the animals to raise on a farm. Not chickens/cows/pigs? Fucking alpacas? You gonna eat fleece for dinner?as naff noted there's a bit of a trendy thing to start alpaca farms, even though they're apparently way more costly and difficult to run profitably than anything resembling "regular" farming, hence why they're more of an upper class white trend and the related mockery since it's nowhere near as reasonable as just getting a chicken coop and buying $250 dresses for them off the internet
What is Matt implying people should rethink (but won't)? That Markey isn't a worthwhile progressive candidate because people with college degrees vote for them in higher percentages vs. those without a degree? Really hate this entire argument and the constant use of the term "PMC". Reductive and boring.
What is Matt implying people should rethink (but won't)? That Markey isn't a worthwhile progressive candidate because people with college degrees vote for them in higher percentages vs. those without a degree? Really hate this entire argument and the constant use of the term "PMC". Reductive and boring.
That if you invited the PMC into a coalition their class interests would pull it to the right (and thus the left should only pursue a working-class coalition). Their support of Markey runs counter to that.
The PMC Twitter discourse was mostly primary fever, and people scouring the crosstabs of polls to show that Bernie represented more than just a candidacy. Or for some anti-idpol people a roundabout way to justify saying slurs.
What is Matt implying people should rethink (but won't)? That Markey isn't a worthwhile progressive candidate because people with college degrees vote for them in higher percentages vs. those without a degree? Really hate this entire argument and the constant use of the term "PMC". Reductive and boring.
That if you invited the PMC into a coalition their class interests would pull it to the right (and thus the left should only pursue a working-class coalition). Their support of Markey runs counter to that.
The PMC Twitter discourse was mostly primary fever, and people scouring the crosstabs of polls to show that Bernie represented more than just a candidacy. Or for some anti-idpol people a roundabout way to justify saying slurs.
So is the class composition of a supporter base not worth discussing or what
Right, I agree tbh. That said I disagree with the definition of the so-called pmc here, and I definitely don't think the polls Matt's referencing are a good indication that the working class supports Kennedy in a more meaningful way than Markey but hey, I'm just a dude without a degree.
https://twitter.com/LemieuxLGM/status/1300980319936364549
The king has left his bunker :ohyeah
https://mobile.twitter.com/ClipsDave/status/1301186582502805504
https://twitter.com/adamcarolla/status/1293773434753753088 (https://twitter.com/adamcarolla/status/1293773434753753088)
.My roommate is a Rogan-ite. Even has a JRE patch on a backpack :yuck
I will never understand you guys for hate-watching this stuff.
https://twitter.com/adamcarolla/status/1293773434753753088 (https://twitter.com/adamcarolla/status/1293773434753753088)
kinda makes you think
https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1300438752892944385
It’s never a good sign when you’re watching a scene of street terror in yet another gut-churning YouTube video and you find yourself thinking: ‘Hang on a minute, that’s around the corner from my apartment!’ But there’s a now infamous video from last week where a mob of enraged millennials with their fists pumped in the air surrounded a lone young woman sitting outside a Washington restaurant where I often eat. Like a scene from the Cultural Revolution, the crowd demanded she shout certain slogans and raise her clenched fist in solidarity — or be damned as a racist. Most of her fellow diners took the path of least resistance. She wouldn’t. The chants grew louder: ‘White silence is violence!’ They started screaming in her face. She wouldn’t cave. Wokeness, in case you hadn’t noticed, has entered a more intense phase. Not so long ago, you were canceled for something you did or said or wrote. Now you’re canceled just for saying absolutely nothing at all.
I had a much milder experience of this during the past week when the New York Times decided to run a profile of me. The hook was that I was forced to leave New York magazine last month because, according to the NYT, I had not publicly recanted editing an issue of the New Republic published…in 1994. The issue was a symposium on The Bell Curve, a book by Charles Murray and Richard Herrnstein that explored the connection between IQ, class, social mobility and race. My crime was to arrange a symposium around an extract, with 13 often stinging critiques published alongside it. The fact I had not recanted that decision did not, mind you, prevent TIME, the Atlantic, Newsweek, the NYT and New York magazine from publishing me in the following years. But suddenly, a decision I made a quarter of a century ago required my being canceled. The NYT reporter generously gave me a chance to apologize and recant, and when I replied that I thought the role of genetics in intelligence among different human populations was still an open question, he had his headline: ‘I won’t stop reading Andrew Sullivan, but I can’t defend him.’ In other words, the media reporter in America’s paper of record said he could not defend a writer because I refused to say something I don’t believe. He said this while arguing that I was ‘one of the most influential journalists of the last three decades’. To be fair to him, he would have had no future at the NYT if he had not called me an indefensible racist. His silence on that would have been as unacceptable to his woke bosses as my refusal to recant. But this is where we now are. A reporter is in fear of being canceled if he doesn’t cancel someone else. This is America returning to its roots. As in Salem.
More like tim fool, amirite?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhWWcWtAUoY
O wow this looks great. Putting it in this thread cause its got half of bread tube doing furry erotica narrations it seems.
A incoming student to our group mentioned how much he likes Jordan Peterson in his introduction talk :deadOh boy. If he's that excited, he will proselityze.
Big event later this month!
https://mobile.twitter.com/yaf/status/1301628286519447553
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhFPOblXgAIUwL5.jpg)Ok so I had no idea what was going on. This is related to the DC shooting. Too bad the link Glenn was linking to doesn't exist anymore.
So I was only paying half attention because the introductions were pretty terrible (these are masters and phd students), but I think what happened is he showed his desktop background by accident and then mentioned how it was JP related and how much JP inspires him. He also talked about how much he likes Jürgen Schmidhuber, who is a well known self-righteous raging asshole in our field.
Jürgen Schmidhuber is a computer scientist who works in the field of artificial intelligence.(https://i.imgur.com/YWz1pNi.jpg) :waluigi
Oh. It was this: (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhEcDaOXsAgMEop?format=png&name=small)
Big event later this month!
https://mobile.twitter.com/yaf/status/1301628286519447553
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhFPOblXgAIUwL5.jpg)
you know, it's been a month since the news that jorpy got the 'rona.his daughter said he's fine
i think he ded, y'all. and for real this time. :doge
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https://twitter.com/GrrrGraphics/status/1302064689828880385
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This is a bore post
why is biden riding the bus, but trump IS the bus? who's biden's bus supposed to be?it's the Trump Train you lieberal hack
https://twitter.com/drmistercody/status/1302387512581660673"I'm 34 and forever alone; must be everyone else's fault" :girlaff
twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1302769107176054784He read the WaPo headline obviously. But where did THEY find out?
https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1302769107176054784
the remake of Face/Off is terrible
thanks americans, for taking them off our hands
https://twitter.com/scrowder/status/1303453723147096065
I’m a pro-life conservative Republican college student who won’t let cancel culture silence me:american
We just want to be friends.Pretty sure that's what you said to the natives
For all of benjipwns prejudice, all those wank hockey dads seem to come from English speaking Canada.
:kermit
Can somebody name anybody who's been cancelled besides the guy who said protests correlated with lower vote share
Overall, Americans took 9/11 pretty calmly
https://mobile.twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1304385740063805440
thanks americans, for taking them off our hands
https://twitter.com/scrowder/status/1303453723147096065
Didn't he only get one (1) vote from some Scandinavian far right kook to be nominated on the short list ?He brokered another deal with Bahrain and he's now also nominated for the Kosovo / Serbia deal.
:neogaf
Can somebody name anybody who's been cancelled besides the guy who said protests correlated with lower vote share
If we knew about them, that wouldn't be very effective cancelling, would it ?
Didn't he only get one (1) vote from some Scandinavian far right kook to be nominated on the short list ?He brokered another deal with Bahrain and he's now also nominated for the Kosovo / Serbia deal.
:neogaf
https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1304872660636176384
krugman's right about hate crimes and about bush feeling an obligation to tamp down on overt islamophobia that trump clearly doesn't
but when bush is responsible than more muslims being killed than trump by several orders of magnitude, who really cares?
krugman's right about hate crimes and about bush feeling an obligation to tamp down on overt islamophobia that trump clearly doesn't
but when bush is responsible than more muslims being killed than trump by several orders of magnitude, who really cares?
What? He's arguing there wasn't a huge outbreak of anti-Muslim sentiment, which there clearly was going by that graph (or, you know, a functioning memory of the early 2000s). Muslims are what a tenth the size of the black population in the US? Not to mention the obscenity of using a bar graph to try to capture the depths of racism and paranoia that were running through society at large at the time
https://twitter.com/ClipsDave/status/1305513862058319879
Kinda like when a film class teacher shows Triumph of the Will to show the use of specific camera techniques or showing how a film like that can be incredibly influential on some people as a propaganda piece. But I have enough faith that none of the people in said class would show up with an 88 tattoo next class.
https://twitter.com/KnowN0thing1/status/1295740393036939264
https://twitter.com/ClipsDave/status/1305513862058319879
"Deplatform this crap"
But you're watching it... and showing it on your platform...
Joe Biden has still not responded to the invitation. He's a coward :belithe mandarkian vote secured ???
https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1305846700699860993
This is a dark and gloomy cartoon that befits the mysterious circumstances surrounding the death of Antonin Scalia. At the very least, it’s inexcusable that there was no autopsy. There’s also a distinct possibility that, like Breitbart, Tom Clancy and Michael Hastings, he was assassinated. Now, conveniently, Obama will install someone who will help push his globalist agenda.
WHAT IS IT, by the standards of U.S. political and media orthodoxy, that makes Rogan so radioactive? In March, billionaire and former NYC mayor Michael Bloomberg — who spoke at the 2004 GOP Convention in the middle of the Iraq War and war on terror to urge the reelection of George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, and who presided over and repeatedly defended the racially disparate “stop and frisk” police practice — endorsed Joe Biden for president, and Biden not only accepted but celebrated the endorsement, praising Bloomberg in the process:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0tFgPG26vA
What are the standards that make Michael Bloomberg an acceptable endorsement to tout but not Joe Rogan, given that the billionaire three-term mayor and former Republican has taken far worse positions and done far more damage to far more people than the podcaster could ever dream of doing?
That question is even more compelling when it comes to the Biden/Harris campaign’s touting of the endorsement of former Republican Gov. Rick Snyder of Michigan, widely blamed for the criminally negligent lack of clean drinking water which plagued primarily African American residents of Flint, Michigan, for many years. Not only did the Biden campaign accept Snyder’s endorsement, but they issued a press release trumpeting it:
What makes all of this more confounding is that Rogan is a fairly basic political liberal on almost every issue: He believes in the need for greater social spending for the nation’s poor and working class, opposes war and militarism, favors drug legalization, is adamantly pro-choice and pro-LGBT rights, and generally adheres to liberal orthodoxies on standard political debates. That is why he was so fond of Bernie Sanders and Tulsi Gabbard, and why Andrew Yang — whose signature issue was the universal basic income — was one of the few candidates he deemed worth talking to.
The objections typically raised to Rogan concern his questioning of some of the very recent changes brought about by trans visibility and equality, particularly asking whether it is fair for trans women who have lived their entire lives and entered puberty as biological men to compete against cis women in professional sports (a question also asked — and even answered in the negative — by LGBT sports pioneer Martina Navratilova, among many others), and whether young children are emotionally and psychologically equipped to make permanent choices about gender reassignment therapies and gender dysphoria.
If embracing and never questioning the full panoply of trans advocacy is a prerequisite to being permitted in decent society, I seriously doubt many prominent Democratic politicians will pass that test (even Kamala Harris, from San Francisco and the very blue state of California, has a very mixed record on trans rights). Moreover, though polling data is sparse, the data that is available show that there is still much work to do in this area: Only a small minority of Americans believe it is fair to allow trans women to participate in female professional sports.
If the standard is that anyone who even entertains debates over the maximalist and most controversial questions in this very new and evolving social movement is to be cast out as radioactive, liberalism and the Democratic Party will be a very small group. It will also have to proceed without the vast majority of political leaders whom they currently follow. Even on this issue of trans rights, Rogan’s views are in accord with the standard Democratic Party view: He advocates full legal protection and dignity for the right of trans people to live with their gender respected.
The other critique centers on Rogan’s willingness to invite on his show various pundits with far-right views. That’s a bizarre criticism of someone who purposely hosts a program designed to foster dialogue with people across the political spectrum. After all, if one employs the blatantly irrational tactic of attributing to Rogan the views of all his guests, he would be simultaneously everything and nothing.
But again, this is a standard which few if any Democratic Party leaders could meet. Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and Bernie Sanders all went on Bill O’Reilly’s Fox News show, while Rep. Adam Schiff has appeared on Tucker Carlson’s program. Speaking with people with differing views is called politics and journalism, and if one is decreed radioactive for interacting with people with bad views, few will survive that standard. (Liberals also point to the fact that Rogan said he could not vote for Biden over Trump, but that was not on ideological grounds but based on the same narrative that Democratic political and media elites spent all of last year disseminating: namely, that Biden’s cognitive decline makes him unfit for the job.)
While Rogan is politically liberal, he is — argues former Obama 2008 campaign strategist and Rogan listener Shant Mesrobian — culturally conservative, by which he does not mean that Rogan holds conservative views on social issues (again, he is pro-choice and pro-LGBT rights). He means that Rogan exudes culturally conservative signals: He likes MMA fighting, makes crude jokes, hunts, and just generally fails to speak in the lingo of the professional managerial class and coastal elites. And it is those cultural standards, rather than political ones, that make Rogan anathema to elite liberal culture because, Mesrobian argued in a viral Twitter thread, liberals care far more about proper culture signaling than they do about the much harder and more consequential work of actual politics.
As Rogan’s platform grows, it is worthwhile to understand his appeal, his audience, and what he is doing that is new and different to attract such a large following. But it is also very worth examining the reaction to him by the political and media class because in that reaction, one finds many revealing attributes about how they think, what they value, and the priorities that they actually venerate. Today’s SYSTEM UPDATE on The Intercept’s You Tube channel with Mesrobian as my guest is devoted to examining those questions, or it can be viewed on the player below:
https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1308387109754097665
I shared my causes, and the things that meant a lot to me personally; something that I would later learn made me a vulnerable target for psychometric profiling
was shown key phrases by what I now know to be bots, trolls, and manipulated US Persons.
“McCarthyism”
foreign adversaries
Also, this was NOT an attack on the left or the right. It was an attack on America, and Americans.
Over time, I would remove myself slowly from those fake groups and gaslighting “friends”
I’ve obsessively studied Russian cyber warfare and social media manipulation
PS: for some great examples of what I’m talking about, one need look no further than some of the responses to this thread.
what's the probability he's just lying about having covid
Late last week, we first reported that Spotify employees were demanding direct editorial oversight over the recently-acquired Joe Rogan Experience podcast. That would include the ability to directly edit or remove sections of upcoming interviews, or block the uploading of episodes deemed problematic. The employees also demanded the ability to add trigger warnings, corrections, and references to fact-checked articles on topics discussed by Rogan in the course of his multi-hour discussions.
Some of the group’s demands have already been met by Spotify management, though a refusal to allow further changes is stirring talk of a high-profile walkout or strike.
Matthew J. Mayhew apologizes for an article that he recently wrote for Inside Higher Ed and describes beginning a long process of antiracist learning.
I recently led a piece in Inside Higher Ed titled “Why America Needs College Football.” I am sorry for the hurt, sadness, frustration, fatigue, exhaustion and pain this article has caused anyone, but specifically Black students in the higher education community and beyond.
I am struggling to find the words to communicate the deep ache for the damage I have done. I don’t want to write anything that further deepens the pain experienced by my ignorance related to Black male athletes and the Black community at any time, but especially in light of the national racial unrest. I also don’t want to write anything that suggests that antiracist learning is quick or easy. This is the beginning of a very long process, one that started with learning about the empirical work related to Black college football athletes.
Rather than make excuses, I should talk about which facets of the article that I have recently learned are harmful -- through my students, wider social media community and distinguished academics like Donna Ford, Joy Gaston Gayles and Gilman Whiting.
I learned that I could have titled the piece “Why America Needs Black Athletes.” I learned that Black men putting their bodies on the line for my enjoyment is inspired and maintained by my uninformed and disconnected whiteness and, as written in my previous article, positions student athletes as white property. I have learned that I placed the onus of responsibility for democratic healing on Black communities whose very lives are in danger every single day and that this notion of “democratic healing” is especially problematic since the Black community can’t benefit from ideals they can’t access. I have learned that words like “distraction” and “cheer” erase the present painful moments within the nation and especially the Black community.
Upon such beginnings of reflection, I have also learned that my love for Black athletes on the field doesn’t translate into love within the larger community -- that I have been dismissive of Black lives in moments not athletically celebrated. I have learned that I have taken pleasure in events that ask Black athletes to put their bodies on the line and take physical risks. I have been entertained by Black men who often are conditioned by society and structural racism in ways that lure them into athletics where the odds of making it are slim to none.
I am just beginning to understand how I have harmed communities of color with my words. I am learning that my words -- my uninformed, careless words -- often express an ideology wrought in whiteness and privilege. I am learning that my commitment to diversity has been performative, ignoring the pain the Black community and other communities of color have endured in this country. I am learning that I am not as knowledgeable as I thought I was, not as antiracist as I thought I was, not as careful as I thought I was. For all of these, I sincerely apologize.
I know it’s not anyone’s job to forgive me, but I ask for it -- another burden of a white person haunted by his ignorance. To consider the possible hurt I have played a role in, the scores of others whose pain I didn’t fully see, aches inside me -- a feeling different and deeper than the tears and emotions I’ve experienced being caught in an ignorant racist moment.
To all communities of color and especially the Black community, I am sorry for causing pain by ignoring yours. I really hate the idea of hurting anyone. I hate that I have done this: if I had not ignored the pain of so many, this article would have never been written. I hate that my students have to carry my ignorant racist energy with them at all times. I hate that I brought a graduate student into this space with me as a co-author: Musbah Shaheen, I am sorry. I hate the fact that I have hurt my colleagues at Ohio State and the field of higher education, especially Black scholars whose careers have been spent studying Black lives. I am sorry for ignoring your scholarship. I hate that I have let down my Black friends and friends of color, whom I love.
I am immeasurably grateful to the grace extended by Donna, Joy and Gilman and for their willingness to work with me on these issues. I know they are taking a risk by partnering with me on this pathway. I know that they are carrying a burden by even taking any time with me. I want to thank them.
To really begin the long process of antiracist learning, I am designing a plan for change, for turning the “I am sorry” to “I will change” -- for moving Black Lives Matter from a motto to a pathway from ignorance and toward authentic advocacy. To do this, a colleague of mine asked me to center the question: What can I do to unlearn patterns that hurt and harm Black communities and other communities of color? My center is as a learner, so movement for me will involve unlearning and relearning by listening, reading, dialoguing, reflecting and writing as a means for increasing my awareness and knowledge about systemic racism and the experiences of people of color and people who hold marginalized identities different from my own. I need time to reflect on the specifics of this plan, which includes accountability measures, and I am hoping news media like Inside Higher Ed will consider working with me and others on pieces that come from its enaction.
To be clear, no one should ever put their bodies on the line for entertainment. To be clear, football -- like COVID-19 -- places Black bodies at disproportional risk. To be clear, experts are not immune to ignorance. To be clear, no one can be antiracist and ignore Black pain and that of other communities of color.
Scott Adams finally realized Trump is not a master of persuasion after he was unable to denounce white supremacy last night.
Like the Congresswoman, Mr. Beck is a believer that the federal government has been overrun by the interests of Islamic extremists. Speaking on his Internet distributed program, Beck said, “We have been sold to radical Islam. It has infiltrated and we have documented it.”
https://twitter.com/danielledsouzag/status/1311680710273626133Ultra shit take and I sort of hate myself for knowing it relates to Chrissy Tiegen because she keeps getting shoved in face. But trying to turn her sad and unfortunate circumstance into a pro-life argument from this lady is a major thumbs down.
https://twitter.com/danielledsouzag/status/1311680710273626133Ultra shit take and I sort of hate myself for knowing it relates to Chrissy Tiegen because she keeps getting shoved in face. But trying to turn her sad and unfortunate circumstance into a pro-life argument from this lady is a major thumbs down.
Scott Adams finally realized Trump is not a master of persuasion after he was unable to denounce white supremacy last night.
https://www.twitter.com/drmistercody/status/1315724838363787264
A question I’ve wrestled with this past year or so is a pretty basic one: if critical race/gender/queer theory is unfalsifiable postmodern claptrap, as I have long contended, how has it conquered so many institutions so swiftly?
Hutcheson looked uneasy as his girlfriend continued to talk about her career ambitions. “All of us Europeans have the responsibility to reproduce,” he interjected.
Southern looked down at her plate. “That’s a very cold way of putting it,” she responded. “Do you want to have a family for the sake of love or just because it’s a duty thing?”
“Motherhood is to women as war is to men,” her boyfriend replied stolidly. “I want to serve my nation.”
That escalated quickly :lol
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Welcome to New Discourses! We like to think of this place as a home for the politically homeless, especially for those who feel like they’ve been displaced from their political homes because of the movement sometimes called “Critical Social Justice” and the myriad negative effects it has had on our political environments, both on the left and on the right. If that’s you, welcome, and make yourself at home.
New Discourses is, by design, meant to be apolitical in the usual sense. That means it is not interested in conservative, progressive, left, right, center, or any other particular political stances. It is, in this regard, only broadly liberal in the philosophical and ethical stance. In that case, whether you’re a progressive left-liberal or a conservative right-liberal, traditional or classical in any case, you’re likely to find what we’re doing refreshing. (And if you don’t, we can talk about it! That’s the point!)
The purpose of New Discourses is to meet the need that the problem of political alienation and homelessness has created. It is to be a place where dialogue is possible and encouraged, regardless of differences in politics, aiming to be responsible with our speech and thought while not feeling fettered by restrictions of political correctness in any of its myriad manifestations. It also hopes to inspire dialogue—both new ways to discuss old topics and new conversations in their own right.
In that sense, New Discourses is best thought of both as a media site and as an educational resource. Our aim is to produce high-quality material that can get you up to speed on what’s going on with our present discourses so we can have new ones. Our objective is to give you the tools you need to understand what’s going on around you in the world and talk about it effectively. We want you to understand, and we want you talking to others about what you’re understanding.
New Discourses means two things—a kind of play on the word “discourses.” These two things relate to one another. On the one hand, discourses are how we talk about things, the dialogues we’re having, and even the dialogues we’re not having or not able to have honestly. On the other, discourses is a technical term within the academic literature that means, roughly, ways things can be spoken about legitimately within a particular context. For example, the ways lawyers speak about law and the practice of law can be referred to as legal discourses. The discourses, in this formal sense, can shape, define, or limit the discourses, in the sense of dialogue, that we are having and are able to have. Thus, the name of New Discourses fits.
The goal of New Discourses is to provide means and opportunities to have new discourses, in both senses of the word. Our social, political, and cultural conversations have, in many ways, become stagnant, even while they flourish in whole new ways thanks to the internet, media, and social media. Conservatives are expected to say conservative things; progressives are expected to say progressive things; and people are struggling to communicate effectively with one another. We need some new discourses.
A big part of this problem comes from the culture war, including the aspect of it that is sometimes called “politically correct.” This is one discourses-defining tool and mindset that bears a lot of relevance on our existing conversations and capacity to have them. Other variations exist too and apply in other social and political movements, and all such things are impediments to having productive, free, and open dialogue because they all seek to limit what is and is not legitimate to say—and how to say it—for everyone. One of the goals of New Discourses is to break this problem open and enable some new discourses, in the other sense of the term.
Here at New Discourses, we are, as you’ll find, particularly concerned with the current attempt by the movement sometimes called Critical Social Justice to control the discourses of our society, in both senses of the term. Unsurprisingly, this movement does this largely through using heavy-handed, even bullying tactics, many of which only make sense in the Age of the Internet. Many don’t realize, however, that it also does this through having changed the meanings of many words themselves, so that they speak almost an alternate version of whatever language they are speaking. If you change the meanings of words, as it happens, you can change the discourses that arise from those words.
We’re very concerned about this and the effect it is having in our society. Thus, in the spirit of free inquiry, free speech, and free association—without guilt—New Discourses hopes among its missions to elucidate the ways by which the Critical Social Justice movement is attempting to and succeeding at defining and controlling our discourses on their terms. Thus, much of what New Discourses aims to do is to offer education and educational resources about these new terms.
We hope our efforts allow people to understand the ways their language has a specific usage under Critical Social Justice. To accomplish this, we aim to expose the ways these terms have been defined and redefined and then to explain what they mean and how they’re being put to use. We also hope to articulate alternative ways to think of and talk about these issues and provide people with the tools they need to have these important conversations in completely new ways. We believe it is necessary to do this if we want to be able to get to a place where we can truly have new discourses.
https://mobile.twitter.com/RepClayHiggins/status/1319715219216674817
https://mobile.twitter.com/RepClayHiggins/status/1319715219216674817
0:11 Jamie is back
0:20 Jamie cant taste
0:40 Introduces Alex & Tim
1:30 Ghislane Maxwell & her family
2:35 Alex learned about Epstein 20 years ago
3:36 The Borat movie & Bruno
6:36 Sacha Baron Cohen tried to cancel Alex
7:48 Censorship & White House smear campaign
10:31 Bidens daughters diary & foreign interference
13:10 Lobbyists, AT&T & big tech
22:50 Xi Jin Ping,Trump, coal plants & trade
25:44 Clean burning coal
30:04 The carbon conspiracy
35:31 Election night Joe & Alex will be live
36:01 Joe & Alex debate climate change
47:10 Electric cars & TEAM CARBON
48:02 Nuclear power & BP
51:55 Global warming, cars & centralized control
54:11 Joe wished he was high & covid conspiracy
55:50 Alex Jones mistakes & Bohemian Grove
56:57 The Post Human Era, Neuralink & AI
1:01:22 The first amendment & big tech
1:08:32 Bohemian Grove Cult & Nixon
1:20:09 Human trafficking Vietnam black ops
1:23:50 Clinton & Epstein Island
1:25:53 Ted Gunderson & William Colby
1:28:42 Apocalypse Now & Epstein
1:29:50 Jamie shoutout & Epstein Island
1:33:15 Trump & Roy Cohen, Infowars & The Young Turks
1:36:55 Free speech & censors
1:40:55 The election, Communist China & I Phones
1:49:38 Bill Maher, Democrat & covid conspiracy
2:01:00 Brian Redban & Election night podcast
2:02:32 Whitmer assassination plot & Bret Weinstein
2:11:24 The post industrial world & autonomous cars
2:13:56 Police state & the pandemic conspiracy
2:28:48 Contesting the election & voter fraud
2:34:56 The universe, aliens & DMT
2:36:43 alternate dimensions & Bob Lazar
2:41:51 Technoptimism
2:51:40 Joes new studio & Jamie appreciation
2:53:24 MRNA vaccines
3:00:25 Alex talks about retirement & addiction
Check out the NeoGAF thread on this video for some amazement lol:
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/scott-adams-talking-to-nicki-clyne-about-her-experience-with-nxivm-and-the-trial-of-keith-ranieri.1573615/
Check out the NeoGAF thread on this video for some amazement lol:He's rich and married an Instagram model, therefore he is intelligent and wise.
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/scott-adams-talking-to-nicki-clyne-about-her-experience-with-nxivm-and-the-trial-of-keith-ranieri.1573615/
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https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1326304111948488706
https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1326304111948488706
[Andrew] Sullivan’s Substack quickly rose to become the fifth-most-read among paid subscriptions—he claimed that his income had risen from less than $200,000 at New York magazine to $500,000.:success :money
“Friends, I feel like I’m no longer needed. There are so many good people doing good work.” Cernovich said on his farewell stream. “People always ask me, do you play a musical instrument. And I say, the keyboard. They go, oh, the piano? And I go, no. The keyboard of Twitter. Gorilla mindset, that’s my album. And I don’t want to have to keep playing the hits.”
BLEXIT Foundation is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization dedicated to the advancement of urban and minority communities by encouraging youth to seek and take advantage of opportunities in 21st Century America. The organization promotes educational initiatives, pursues criminal justice reform, educates minority communities regarding America’s founding principles, and highlights the importance of free markets and entrepreneurship as the antidote to poverty. The BLEXIT Foundation achieves these goals by providing news and commentary through BLEXIT websites, curating BLEXIT programming, producing BLEXIT merchandise, and hosting BLEXIT events.
BLEXIT live events both amplify the message of the movement and illuminate its ideals through an immersive display of original film, provocative visuals, live music, and renowned speakers. BLEXIT events are both a rallying cry for freedom and an electrifying live experience that blurs the line between pop and politics. BLEXIT’s 2020 show is entitled Our Liberation.
Founders Candace Owens and Brandon Tatum came together because of their shared desire to build a better future for America. Candace and Brandon seek to educate minorities across America about the history of our great country by highlighting the principles of the Constitution of the United States and the importance of self-reliance. The two believe it is time to take criminal justice reform seriously to stop the over-incarceration of minorities, to build strong families in the minority communities, and to value the life and the sanctity of every individual.
God is omnipotent and omniscient, so not only could he have easily stopped all the rocks, but he chose not to stop a rock that he knew would hit Charlie Kirk in the back of the head. Really makes you think. #God
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
In this world, is the destiny of mankind controlled by some transcendental entity or law? Is it like the hand of God hovering above? At least it is true that man has no control; even over his own will
Literally crying rn tweets
I think of him as a brain dead crustacean being controlled by his daughter who betrayed him and his bloodline by getting pregnant by a Cultural Marxist Slav.
i think of him as a reactionary and general contrarian, not someone with steadfast beliefs.
Definitely looking for more life advice from a guy who got hooked on benzos, let his daughter convince him to go on an all-beef diet, and ended up in a medically induced coma in Russia.That's one of the 12 lessons :rash
The entire concept of selling a 2nd "12 rules" book is making me giggle.
https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1332325129485910017
:doge
(https://i.imgur.com/0josdak.jpg)If you strike him down he only comes back stronger
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https://twitter.com/gnostiquette/status/1336461124133384193
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:trumps
https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1339092502272466945
:drool
Otacon : Snake, look into your purse, I added a Wank Dad Gear mk.II.This is certified fantastic
Snake : Wank... Dad... ?
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https://youtu.be/Hi2yvpdtz1M
https://youtu.be/Wd6b_8OlwXU
Otacon : Snake, look into your purse, I added a Wank Dad Gear mk.II.
Snake : Wank... Dad... ?
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https://youtu.be/Hi2yvpdtz1M
https://youtu.be/Wd6b_8OlwXU
(https://i.imgur.com/BzF3CSZ.jpg)But I thought Donald Trump was the smartest man in the world and the only one able to play chess in 4 dimensions?
The "smartest man in the world" has quite the Internet history. :dead
And then the White House told me three days before, “We’re going to have you lead the march. The Secret Service -- before Trump finishes, 30 minutes before -- so we’ll lead you to a point, take you out of the front row and lead you to the place where they want you to start the march and Trump will tell people, ‘Go, and I’m going to meet you at the Capitol.’”
https://mobile.twitter.com/abughazalehkat/status/1349164892830490630
https://twitter.com/undeadscribe/status/1349919641162940419
The day after New Year’s, John Reichert of Boulder, Colo., had a heated argument with his 14-year-old son, James. “I’ve failed you as a father,” he told the boy despairingly.
During the long months of lockdowns and shuttered schools, Mr. Reichert, like many parents, overlooked the vastly increasing time that his son was spending on video games and social media. Now, James, who used to focus his free time on mountain biking and playing basketball, devotes nearly all of his leisure hours — about 40 a week — to Xbox and his phone. During their argument, he pleaded with his father not to restrict access, calling his phone his “whole life.”
“That was the tipping point. His whole life?” said Mr. Reichert, a technical administrator in the local sheriff’s office. “I’m not losing my son to this.”
it's much worse than that tbh :(https://twitter.com/undeadscribe/status/1349919641162940419
This is the Holocaust!
Try to shut down Independent long-form podcasting & watch what happens to your civilization.
Rolling Stone magazine is offering “thought leaders” the chance to write for its website if they are willing to pay $2,000 to “shape the future of culture”.
The storied magazine, which has published journalism by writers including Hunter S Thompson, Patti Smith and Tom Wolfe, approached would-be members of its new “Culture Council” by email, telling them that they had the chance to join “an invitation-only community for innovators, influencers and tastemakers”.
Emails seen by the Guardian suggest that those who pass a vetting process – and pay a $1,500 annual fee plus $500 up front – will “have the opportunity to publish original content to the Rolling Stone website”. It suggests that doing so “allows members to position themselves as thought leaders and share their expertise”.
That message is reinforced by the Council’s website, which, under the headline Get Published tells would-be members: “Being published in one of the best-known entertainment media outlets in the world sets you apart as a visionary, leader, and bold voice in your industry.”
So native advertising. :isthis
https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1354035548524957697
save us, tulsi :tocry
she's running as republican in 2024and she'll win the nomination;)
I mean, if it worked...
I've never seen that Fox News host. He sounds like an Australian version of Dr. Gorka.That's Mark Steyn.
Where the fuck do they find those people.
Fox News plans to move Saturday’s “The Greg Gutfeld Show” to every weeknight at 11 p.m., the network announced on Wednesday.:trumps
Fox News Media CEO Suzanne Scott revealed the network’s weekly comedy-centered late-night talk show will move to weeknights during the start of the second quarter of this year. Gutfeld’s show will be followed by “Fox News @ Night,” which will be pushed back to begin at midnight.
“People need a reason to laugh,” Scott said in a statement.
“With one of the most loyal and engaged audiences in cable news, we’re thrilled to bring the show to weekday primetime and further solidify Greg’s place among late night television stars,” she added.
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/538262-fox-newss-the-greg-gutfeld-show-shifts-to-five-days-a-weekQuoteFox News plans to move Saturday’s “The Greg Gutfeld Show” to every weeknight at 11 p.m., the network announced on Wednesday.:trumps
Fox News Media CEO Suzanne Scott revealed the network’s weekly comedy-centered late-night talk show will move to weeknights during the start of the second quarter of this year. Gutfeld’s show will be followed by “Fox News @ Night,” which will be pushed back to begin at midnight.
“People need a reason to laugh,” Scott said in a statement.
“With one of the most loyal and engaged audiences in cable news, we’re thrilled to bring the show to weekday primetime and further solidify Greg’s place among late night television stars,” she added.
“People need a reason to laugh,” Scott said in a statement.
Abramson claims that, in the months before, he had been corresponding with Luke Turner, the author of The Metamodernist Manifesto and a creative partner of LaBeouf’s; because of that, Abramson believes that he was an influence on LaBeouf. “I’m the reason that Shia LaBeouf became a performance artist,” Abramson told me. LaBeouf says that Abramson was just trying to sell more books.
Last weekend, New York Times columnist Bret Stephens wrote a piece criticizing the rationale behind the forced ouster of Times reporter Donald J. McNeil, but it was never published. Stephens told colleagues the column was killed by publisher A.G. Sulzberger. Since then, the piece has circulated among Times staffers and others — and it was from one of them, not Stephens himself, that The Post obtained it. We publish his spiked column here in full.
Carano told us today: “The Daily Wire is helping make one of my dreams — to develop and produce my own film — come true. I cried out and my prayer was answered. I am sending out a direct message of hope to everyone living in fear of cancellation by the totalitarian mob. I have only just begun using my voice which is now freer than ever before, and I hope it inspires others to do the same. They can’t cancel us if we don’t let them.”
“We’re eager to bring Gina’s talent to Americans who love her, and we’re just as eager to show Hollywood that if they want to keep cancelling those who think differently, they’ll just be helping us build the Xwing to take down their Death Star,” he added.
“I know what antisemitism looks like, being one of the more prominent kippah-wearing people out there,” Ben Shapiro, who, according to the ADL, was the journalist most targeted by antisemitic hate during the 2016 election, told me. “This doesn’t chart. I don’t like the meme, especially given its origins. But antisemitism, like racism — and contrary to the NYT’s executive editor’s dictum — requires intent. Gina obviously didn’t have any such intent.”
“Gina isn’t antisemitic. Period. This meme is being ‘resurfaced’ as a post-facto justification for an unjustifiable cancellation,” he said. “Gina wasn’t aware of the origins of the original picture, and was devastated to hear about it, just as she has been devastated by the absurd and bad faith contention that she is antisemitic in any way.”
Idk if Ben knows this, but companies can cancel a worker for any reason.
Idk if Ben knows this, but companies can cancel a worker for any reason.
Idk if Ben knows this, but companies can cancel a worker for any reason.
https://youtu.be/pevgyB12RMQ
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:jeb
Alongside Night is the GOAT libertarian literary adaptation.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fkWaTMY_F_s
It’s been a few years since I watched it, but in it the US government is collapsing so the dollar is going through hyperinflation. The main character is looking for his dad, Kevin Sorbo, who is in hiding because the US gov is trying to assassinate him for trying to replace the dollar with liberty coins. Not a good movie, but far better than the atlas shrugged trilogy.
It’s been a few years since I watched it, but in it the US government is collapsing so the dollar is going through hyperinflation. The main character is looking for his dad, Kevin Sorbo, who is in hiding because the US gov is trying to assassinate him for trying to replace the dollar with liberty coins. Not a good movie, but far better than the atlas shrugged trilogy.
Was it better or worse than Amerigeddon?
Don Jr. getting as fat as his pops
https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/1367562330515660801
The Dr. Seuss shit, too. No one banned anything. The ESTATE and PUBLISHER decided to stop printing 6 specific books that no one even knows of for specific reasons and had they not made a press release about it no one would have even noticed.
The Dr. Seuss shit, too. No one banned anything. The ESTATE and PUBLISHER decided to stop printing 6 specific books that no one even knows of for specific reasons and had they not made a press release about it no one would have even noticed.
;)
https://mobile.twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1367576180820443143
https://twitter.com/itripley/status/1368026345029111814
:info
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yes lets give the dog a gun :doge
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yes lets give the dog a gun :doge
https://twitter.com/ChristnNitemare/status/1368628774502273028 (https://twitter.com/ChristnNitemare/status/1368628774502273028)
:preach
Some dude from Mumford & Sons was praising some wankdad book or something.
Turns out he really loves his wankdaddies lol
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi0y_xnFVCN/
whoa, that was actually more racist than i expected, like one of the most racist things ive heard racistAnd these city boys don't even know what a farm looks like :neogaf
https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1371856007203336194
I'm not yet a student, but I'm going to be next semester. I'm morally opposed to joining unions in general, as I have many problems with teachers' unions, and I'm especially opposed to breaching the faith of students who trust us to provide a service for which they pay tuition.
My questions being:
1) Do I have a chance to come to campus, possibly taking TA positions, without participating in the power structure of the union, which I personally oppressive and stifling to individualism?
2) If not, what legal options would I have to not participate in collective action of the type that is currently taking place on campus? For instance, by continuing study sessions for students?
Thank you very much for listening to my concerns,
PS Attaching the grad. office, in case they are better able to answer my questions. Thanks in advance
Scabs scab for money but who scabs because they find the power structure of unions personally oppressive and stifling to individualism?
The fuck is up with McCain’s hair :kobeyuck :yuckher hair stylist on the view is gay and hates her
*We get stuff from them every so often because I used the office's mailing address to get a bunch of free pocket constitutions once years ago. :lol
Both Hercules and Superman are rightwing nuts? :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTiwyzHsjKMbide making usa more like chiner, but also woke ::) best part about chiner is it's not woke 8)
Free speech is one of the hallmarks of our Constitutional Republic, as enshrined in the Bill of Rights. It is no coincidence that nations that have free speech also have a free enterprise system and freedom of religion. Inversely, nations that deny free speech tread upon the free enterprise system and freedom of religion. Americans want to remain free. Americans are craving news and information that is not filtered through the radical worldview of today’s liberal media intelligentsia, or deep state actors.Frank, the voice of free speech, will be the platform for Americans who want to defend life, liberty, and all the freedoms that have marked America as the longest running Constitutional Republic in the history of the world. On this platform you will find a home where you can post videos, livestream television, distribute news and information, and find community and fellowship with likeminded Americans. Frank will be a home for major influencers, to micro influencers, to average Americans wanting to share in the constitutional right of freedom of speech and freedom of expression. We hope you will join our community and let freedom ring.
"It is going to be the most safest, securest and able to handle a hundred, two hundred, a billion people," Lindell said
Lindell said: "None of these guys are going to be able to take this down. We're gonna all come over there. All the influencers... all these people that can't say on their podcasts the word 'Dominion,' or they can't say 'vaccine, a vaccine is bad for you.'
"They are going to be able to speak out and speak freely and it's going to be amazing. The voices of hundreds of millions of people are going to be heard."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVPqOLuVnpg
The project has had to operate under the alias 1973 at its Louisiana shooting locations to avoid controversy, and some crew members have complained about directorial bumbling by the replacement directors, Loeb and production partner Cathy Allyn—both first-timers. On Thursday, before my interview with Bernsen, a Roe production intern stole my notepad and wouldn’t give it back until police intervened. Bernsen, who witnessed the dust-up, told me the man snatched my notes because “the movie’s been under great attack.
“Sometimes we grab, sometimes we talk to you,” Bernsen said.
I like that they included Jamie Kennedy in the line-up of "stars" as if he matters to anyone who would watch this. :heh
Or matter at all really. :neogaf
https://youtu.be/HUkEpm8kPyQThat's not part of the #Dineshverse, FALSE ADVERTISING.
:bedroomeyes
Roe v. Wade is currently filming under the title 1973. Crew members have told The Daily Beast that the filmmakers have misrepresented the project from Day 1, distributing a “whitewashed synopsis” to location contacts in order to convince them to film at their respective spots. “Tulane University has been the only main [location] where we started shooting there and then they found out what the movie was about and kicked us out,” one crew member said. “There are other locations where they’ve just said no. The whole attitude on the project has been, ‘Don’t tell anyone any more than you have to tell them.’”It was too anti-abortion for Stephen Baldwin and Kevin Sorbo. :neogaf
This attitude extended to members of the supporting cast and crew, many of whom were told that the film was a vaguely pro-life project tackling the landmark Roe v. Wade Supreme Court case “from another perspective,” only to arrive on set, view the script, and be shocked by the extremity of its point of view. “When I read the first two pages, I was like what the fuck is this?” one crew member told The Daily Beast.
The film’s director and first assistant director dropped out on the first day of shooting, forcing producing partners Loeb and Allyn, who co-wrote the screenplay, to assume directorial duties. A costumer, location manager, and several other crew members abandoned the project upon learning of its severe anti-abortion content.
“They’re not keeping people in the loop with the script,” one crew member said. “When people finally receive the script, they’ve dropped out really fast. After people started dropping out, they said, ‘OK, don’t send people the scripts anymore.’ Instead, they’ve been changing lines and scenes before they shoot.”
Conservative actors Stephen Baldwin and Kevin Sorbo were initially cast as Supreme Court justices but left upon receiving the script. “That’s where it started as far as not sending out full scripts to actors, because they backed out and then it was a mad rush to find people to be the Supreme Court justices, and when they got on set they had no idea what they were doing. They didn’t get their lines until they got on set. They were kept in the dark,” according to a crew member.
https://twitter.com/ginacarano/status/1305075373701357568
I don't know if i'd call her transphobic. She probably is, but if not putting pronouns in her bio is the only evidence...
As for the whole "intolerance to Republicans is the new anti-semitism", surely that's a statement that can be eye-rolled at. Why prove her right? People were laughing at the shit she was saying before they fired her
She probably could have apologised and kept her job. She wouldn't even had to mean it. Hard to feel sorry for a self-immolation like that. Worms must be deephere we are pretending to care about trans people for free. she could have got millions for it :doge
The Marvel monopoly is putting a target on the original wank dad.
https://mobile.twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1379288433013690369
The Marvel monopoly is putting a target on the original wank dad.
https://mobile.twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1379288433013690369
What does ‘Galaxy Brain’ mean?but also:
It’s an ironic meme about people who have bad takes. This is my meager attempt to reclaim it for my own purposes. My hope for Galaxy Brain is that it can be a space for big, complicated ideas to be discussed iteratively and without the ‘voice of God’ pressure to render an immediate judgement. I’m really interested in what the theorist Timothy Morton calls “hyperobjects,” a concept so all-encompassing that it is almost impossible to adequately describe. Much of what I write and think about tends to fall into these slippery categories. Lately, I feel like there’s less room for this kind of thinking out loud and ambiguity in traditional media. Let’s get Big Brains together!
One of the names I was kicking around for this newsletter was Troubleshooter. The word’s origin comes from the “trouble men,” who were dispatched by phone companies back in the day to inspect the lines and find and fix the problems holding up various communications. If you stretch the definition a bit, it bears some resemblance to what I’ve tried to with my journalism: spot and diagnose weird problems that are distorting or blocking the way we communicate.:brain
When I joined BuzzFeed, I became obsessed with trying to trace the way that hastily considered decisions by the people who design our technologies could ripple across the internet.
So I started reporting. It led me to extensively document the first decade of Twitter’s failure to tackle its harassment problem. I charted the upside down world of the pro-Trump media. I profiled one of its most ridiculous members (Bill Mitchell) and one of its most dangerous (Alex Jones). Sometimes my stories were absurd, like when I documented the great poop emoji feud of 2017 or the people who battle to reply to Trump tweets, and some of the work has been investigative — at the Times I was part of a team that revealed a massive smartphone location data set and its myriad security and privacy dangers.
new wank material in
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https://www.elbertguillorysamerica.com/
:american
Up until 2007, Guillory had been a registered Republican and served on the Louisiana Republican state central committee. He became a Democrat in 2007 when he first ran for the state House in the heavily Democratic District 40.
Who would you invite to your dream dinner party?
Jordan Peterson: he’s so interesting.
SIOUX FALLS, S.D. — MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell says he'll launch his new social media site and podcast platform, dubbed Frank, at a rally at the Corn Palace in Mitchell, S.D., on May 10.
Lindell made the announcement Wednesday, April 28, on the podcast "Bannon's War Room" hosted by Steve Bannon, a former top adviser to President Donald Trump.
"That's going to be the grand, grand opening to the world," Lindell said. "I just want to get the awareness of the Frank speech, for our free speech to get out there so they can't suppress us anymore."
Asked by Bannon why he picked the Corn Palace, a corn-coated tourist attraction and event facility in the town of about 16,000, Lindell said he had been there before, was "very familiar" with South Dakota and was a big supporter of Kristi Noem, the state's Republican governor, and her pandemic decision to reject any statewide mask mandates or shutdowns.
"I love what the governor, Kristi Noem, has done there," he said.
Attendance to the Corn Palace rally will be free and will be first come, first serve, Lindell said. Doors open at 4 p.m.
Whoever shows up will get a free copy of Lindell's book, "What Are the Odds? From Crack Addict to CEO." Even if you show up and can't get in, you'll get his free book, Lindell said.
https://twitter.com/EvaVlaar/status/1384050435951005705 (https://twitter.com/EvaVlaar/status/1384050435951005705)
Oh god, our own millenial wank thot has gone international :kermit
lmao at thinking that an ad for the CIA signals meaningful change in they way they do things :neogaf
https://mobile.twitter.com/JDVance1/status/1389935672912404481
:neogaf
It was a hype rally.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ZTPetrizzo/status/1391884225268301824
https://youtu.be/IwolVgXkcSU
https://mobile.twitter.com/gregkellyusa/status/1392508988038787074
:doge
Both pics look like slimy fucks who have low t, have never been in a gym, have never been in a fight, have never been in any type of athletics beside maybe Babe Ruth baseball, and turn into a puddle of goo at the hint of anyone getting aggressive with him
Last year, Lockheed Martin Corporation, the nation’s largest defense contractor, sent white male executives to a three-day diversity-training program aimed at deconstructing their “white male culture” and encouraging them to atone for their “white male privilege,” according to documents I have obtained.
The program, hosted on Zoom for a cohort of 13 Lockheed employees, was led by the diversity-consulting firm White Men As Full Diversity Partners, which specializes in helping white males “awaken together.”
More woke CIA fanfic incoming.https://twitter.com/bernybelvedere/status/1398447888871706628
https://mobile.twitter.com/RepDanCrenshaw/status/1398362624287465472
Let's face it. China was probably developing a virus to use on the Uyghurs, Hong Kong, Taiwan or both. A silent killer so there wouldn't be images of Chinese tanks and planes on the news.Cutting defense (or rather 'offense') spending is a great idea.
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1397624206687457284 (https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1397624206687457284)
Actually what makes the most sense is it was a naturally occurring virus in the area, the lab then studied it, and then there was a leak, and the Chinese government is trying to hide that they were studying it earlier than originally thought. We already know there were cases going back to at least October in the area, which is about a month earlier than when reports about the virus started going international. However, neither side of the debate wants to admit it could be BOTH, instead locking themselves into an either/or thing on some culture warz bullshit. Also many of the lab people suggesting or outright saying China manufactured the virus and intentionally let it out.
Let's face it. China was probably developing a virus to use on the Uyghurs, Hong Kong, Taiwan or both. A silent killer so there wouldn't be images of Chinese tanks and planes on the news.Cutting defense (or rather 'offense') spending is a great idea.
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1397624206687457284 (https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1397624206687457284)
Actually what makes the most sense is it was a naturally occurring virus in the area, the lab then studied it, and then there was a leak, and the Chinese government is trying to hide that they were studying it earlier than originally thought. We already know there were cases going back to at least October in the area, which is about a month earlier than when reports about the virus started going international. However, neither side of the debate wants to admit it could be BOTH, instead locking themselves into an either/or thing on some culture warz bullshit. Also many of the lab people suggesting or outright saying China manufactured the virus and intentionally let it out.
Only images of the Chinese military coming to 'rescue' them. They knew they were fucked, their scientists knew it but once it was out they also made sure the WHO would not warn the rest of the world.
The CCP intentionally sterilize women, they intentionally built concentration camps and they intentionally lied to the WHO.
China is lucky(?) that more people are on the hook for this. Fauci for signing the grants and pushing through this type of research considered to be too dangerous and thus not allowed in the US.
They simply moved the research (for scientific reasons of course) to China where they could more easily bend the rules. The story now is that the 'real' Gain of Function program was done under the required security conditions.
But that the Chinese also ran a second program of their own based in another section of the lab on the same computer network with less security. Outside of the official internationally monitored program they could do what they wanted.
Our public broadcaster said that 'the political situation had changed' and thus this came to light. But that is not the case. What changed is that the WHO send a team of CCP shills to Wuhan and the CCP didn't even give them rope to hang themselves or a can of infected bat soup. Not that it matters because nothing will really change.
The Indictment
The Democrats have already seceded from America’s historic conception of nationhood in many respects:
THEY have attacked, on a relentless and increasingly hysterical basis, white Americans, who as the overwhelming majority population, were the primary developers of America’s cultural, intellectual, and political heritage, with all its successes as well as its shortcomings. In doing so, they attack the traditions, history, and values developed by those generations of Americans that historically bound together Americans of all races, religions, and backgrounds.
THEY have occupied our nation’s capital with thousands of troops as if the American people were a foreign foe. This was done in response to a nonexistent threat on the pretext of a shocking but solitary riot, wherein everyone who died was a Trump supporter and none of the so-called “insurgents” was armed. They have since held many of those participating, even peripherally, in prison for months, often in solitary confinement, on absurdly inflated charges, as a political punishment and a warning to future dissidents.
THEY have engaged in bureaucratic and judicial nullification of our laws, particularly on immigration—perhaps the most important element in determining who makes up the American polity. Donald Trump ran on the platform of toughening up immigration policy. It was his defining issue.
Yet the Left made a mockery of the rule of law, using the bureaucracy to throw up procedural roadblock after procedural roadblock to Trump’s agenda, while left-wing judges issued blatantly absurd rulings using invented doctrines to block Trump’s rescission of Obama’s Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals order and accuse the administration of a “Muslim ban” that, in fact, was based heavily on an earlier Obama Administration effort.
THEY have campaigned for decades to neuter the Second Amendment and disarm Americans, based on a misreading of constitutional rights and an empirically unjustified paranoia about white men and guns, pushed relentlessly in their corporate media. Terrified of urban violence, but unable to acknowledge this because of their own political taboos, affluent white leftists have sought to train their rhetorical and legal fire on groups with relatively low rates of crime, pushing ineffective policies that do not keep us safe but do keep us under their control.
THEY have attacked us through their Big Tech proxies, damaging our ability to speak freely in the new public square, coordinate political action, or share information with each other outside of a tightly-controlled corporate media apparatus.
This censorship campaign started with popular but more politically marginalized figures such as Alex Jones and Milo Yiannopoulos and moved, boiling the frog slowly, to deplatforming the sitting president of the United States. Thousands of right-wing dissidents, many with large followings, have been effectively removed from public discourse for political reasons, often with only the flimsiest proceduralist justifications. When Project Veritas conducted devastating undercover exposes on the misbehavior of quasi-state corporate media, in which key figures from these entities actually directly admitted they are engaged in propaganda, the group was banned from social media.
THEY have pursued race-based reparations/wealth confiscation from one set of Americans to another based purely on skin color in blatant contradiction of the Constitution’s promise of equal protection under the laws. Many of our existing welfare systems are, on a net basis, race-based wealth transfers. But to racialize such transfers explicitly represents a dramatic escalation in the Democrats’ war on the equality guaranteed to us in our founding documents.
THEY have turned the media into a propaganda arm of the ruling political party, using their media proxies to engage in a full-time war against Trump’s policies and any policy they oppose. Journalists have abandoned all pretenses of fairness and balance. During the election campaign, they censored or refused to report on stories, such as Hunter Biden’s possible involvement with his father in corrupt dealings with the Chinese government, that would negatively affect Democrats. This was done in conjunction with the coordinated demonization of the opposition candidate.
THEY have used instruments of the state such as the IRS (under Lois Lerner) the FBI (Russiagate) and the Department of Defense (attacking Tucker Carlson) and numerous other agencies to attack political opponents. Political allies of President Trump were investigated and prosecuted by the government in ways that were transparently focused on taking down the duly elected president.
THEY have blatantly rigged the election process—changing of rules in violation of state law, manipulating debate rules and polls, and relentlessly pushing for an unconstitutional federalization of state election laws.
THEY have engaged in asymmetric street violence against us. For the Left, their violence is speech, and our speech is violence. One-third of “very liberal” whites believe violence can be justified in pursuing political goals, vs. just 4 percent of “very conservative” whites. They have enabled their armed and violent wings to cause billions of dollars of damage during the George Floyd and Antifa riots, making them the most expensive civil disturbances in history, while criminalizing the much smaller and far less significant street forces on the Right such as the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers, further using their control of the state legal apparatus to label their opponents as “domestic terrorists.”
THEY have removed entire groups of Americans who are not in their privileged demographics from roles in government leadership. Biden tweets about a cabinet that looks like America, when his cabinet of 25 has no whites of Protestant origin, a group that encompassed almost every one of the founding fathers and even today makes up about 40 percent of the electorate. Meanwhile, in the civil service, the Democrats are taking pains to out Trump supporters and ban them from government jobs. Even the military is now falling under their assault.
THEY have erased our history—tearing down our statues, renaming our schools, and revising our curricula to focus on a radical and racist doctrine of critical race theory.
THEY have corrupted our jury system—with Representative Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) and Joe Biden flagrantly involving themselves in a local jury trial. The specter of mob violence hung over the Derrick Chauvin trial, as was clearly evident from the juror who spoke on the record, while other jurors blatantly broke their oaths of impartiality to obtain the required verdict.
THEY have locked us in our homes on the basis of often-arbitrary requirements and lack of evidence and enriched themselves dramatically in the process. Meanwhile, the most stringent lockdown proponents from Gretchen Whitmer in Michigan to Gavin Newsom in California have been found flagrantly violating their own lockdown orders. Furthermore, thousands of left-aligned “public health” professionals, many of them directly on the government payroll, advocated for the Black Lives Matter and Antifa protests and riots, during the heart of the pandemic, claiming that racism was a public health crisis.
THEY have attempted, most importantly, to change our fundamental structures of governance. In trying to add Puerto Rico and Washington, D.C. (which is specifically excluded from statehood in the Constitution) as states, they have attempted to fundamentally and unilaterally alter the congressional balance of power. They have attempted to end the Senate filibuster (a 183-year-old tradition of our governance) and pack the Supreme Court, by amending the 152-year-old Judiciary Act in a blatant attempt to remove the influence of the last branch of government they don’t control.
https://mobile.twitter.com/JordanHedberg/status/1398627466885746691
:biden
A trans beaver with mastectomy scars in a children's show: America 2021 (From 'Blue's Clues'):titus
How so? What could possibly be bad about this quixotic quest for equity, you ask? At best, it is poorly defined, and at worst it is incoherent and/or malevolent... I would even go so far as to posit that it belies communist sympathies, as a focus on “equality of outcome” as opposed to “equality of opportunity” so often does. Now, it is easy to derisively laugh at this communism dig, but harping against dirty commies here is only a tiny bit of a stretch: the Black Lives Matter co-founder describes herself as a ‘trained Marxist’, and I would challenge you to find me a heavily online tankie who opposes CRT and compelled diversity statements… go on… I’ll wait.:usacry
This then begs the question: what happens when such crypto-communism is allowed to creep into our once hallowed institutions? What happens when Marxists become our central bankers? The financial system loses all credibility and crumbles, of course. Trust and independence must be earned by meritocracy, competence, and institutional restraint; they are pissing it away for nothing, save for some warm fuzzy feelings. Stuff like this has absolutely destroyed the credibility of other countries many times over, and if the U.S. stays on this path, I am not sure how the IMF can credibly advocate for monetary independence overseas. You tell them to stop giving political handouts to political clientele, they'll just point to America and say you're doing exactly the same thing. The end game here is that USD will fall, the empire implodes, and Chicago becomes Chengdu.
Three groups opposed to Covid restrictions, masks, and vaccines are hosting conspiracy theorist Naomi Wolf for a fundraiser entitled "Liberate Our Five Freedoms."
The event is going to be held on Juneteenth, the holiday celebrating the end of chattel slavery in the US. Event organizer Kathryn Levin told me that in her view, it's appropriate.
"The 19th is a day of emancipation, and it's a day when we claim our freedom," said Levin. "It's when we see that we are not slaves to mandate. It's when we take our power back."
I asked Levin how she analogized American chattel slavery—where slaves were whipped, beaten, raped, and murdered by their white masters for centuries—to the temporary restrictions over the last 15 months due to the pandemic.
"We have been enslaved by our government," she replied.
https://mobile.twitter.com/benpershing/status/1401911641986506758
Two kings in the same room! Better delay Christmas at this point!
Can’t believe they banned the top comedy account on Twitter.
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Thank you for participating in Operation Warp Speed patriot :saluteCan’t believe they banned the top comedy account on Twitter.
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i felt the jellyfish genes swim into me when Joe biden and his corrupt cronies held me at gunpoint and forced me to have the Pfizer :stahp
You will be made to care.https://twitter.com/gregkellyusa/status/1402643955695693826
I refuse to believe that Greg Kelly is a real person.https://twitter.com/gregkellyusa/status/1402790142897704960
Another attendee, Pam Putzier, said she had no illusions that the election would be overturned, and she admitted that the crowd made up a small minority. But she is hopeful that a military coup will lead to the arrest of members of Congress and the reinstatement of Trump.
“Kick them all out. Surround the place and put them all in jail… I can’t even imagine it, but I’ll tell you what—I pray every night,” she said.
“We have the biggest Jumbotron I think I’ve ever seen,” Lindell exclaimed —with two smaller Jumbotrons on either side and a gigantic American flag hanging from a pair of construction cranes on stage right.
“We’re going to have the American flag, the biggest flag that I know of,” he said.
Anti-media sentiment was also rampant, though most of the ire was directed at Fox News—with whom Lindell had a spectacular falling out after the network opted to steer clear of him and his bonkers election fraud claims.
In April, Lindell told a podcast hosted by Steve Bannon that he had hired private investigators to find out why Fox News had stopped booking him. “Where is Fox News? Shame on you Fox News!” Lindell yelled into the mic at the beginning of his speech, calling it “disgusting what they’ve done to our country.”
The lineup included three Black speakers—the duo Diamond and Silk, who used to appear regularly on Fox News until they began promoting anti-vax theories, and former Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke, the firebrand conservative known for his inflammatory rhetoric against Black Lives Matter and the mistreatment of inmates at the county jail until he resigned from office in 2017.One of those "you're the only dude mentioning George Floyd anymore" situations. :doge
The three focused mostly on fanning the flames of the “critical race theory” panic that has become a rallying cry on the right, with Diamond and Silk repeating a refrain of “Keep your hands off our children” and labelling education about race a “conspiracy theory.” Clarke most directly addressed the murder of George Floyd. “I don’t know about you, but I’m tired of hearing about George Floyd,” he said to applause. Later, he added: “The sooner we can put George Floyd in our collective rear view mirror, the better.”
https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1405546305615810563
I refuse to believe that Greg Kelly is a real person.EAT IT RUMBLER:
https://twitter.com/gregkellyusa/status/1404144996576632834
“But you see, that’s all changing,” Lindell promised. “What I’m going to do to get this to the world, it’s called a cyber symposium. And what it is, is I’m going to have a venue at the end of July—it’s your job, everybody, to get the word out to the world—we’re going to get every cyber guy that has credentials—they’re called CISSP credentials—they’re going to be there.”
“We’re bringing in all the cyber guys,” he continued. “They’re gonna be there. Then we’re bringing all the media. Maybe even Fox will show up! What a concept. And then we’re going to bring in all senators, governors—even the corrupt ones, Brian Kemp—and legislatures, secretary of states, and every single government official that wants to be there, because when we show them these packet captures, we’re gonna just give them out to all them cyber guys so they can have their own guy go, ‘How many votes were flipped here in Tampa?’ Here you go. Boom. It’s going to be a worldwide event. Millions are going to see it, and those Supreme Court justices are going to look at it then, and they’re going to go 9-0 that this country was attacked. The election is gonna come down. Donald Trump will be in office by this fall, for sure.”
https://twitter.com/TheFirstonTV/status/1408528032231460868 (https://twitter.com/TheFirstonTV/status/1408528032231460868)
:hesright
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3m-y-WXoAAR4bD?format=jpg&name=small)lol they actually did it:
The “Purge” franchise offers a glimpse into the progressive mindset.
Previous installments slammed Christians as monsters, railed against President Donald Trump and stoked the dying embers of Occupy Wall Street’s class resentment.
“The Forever Purge,” the fifth and final? installment, takes on immigration and the alleged rise of white supremacy. You’ll swear MSNBC’s Joy Reid spit-polished the screenplay after Brian Stelter took a whack at it.
The franchise’s core gimmick remains in place, but the film’s modest pleasures are overwhelmed by its dopey sloganeering and predictability.
It’s one groaner after another, and that doesn’t include the talking points barely disguised as conversations. Veteran actor Will Patton is forced to spit out an anti-American diatribe that would make Rep. Ilhan Omar blush.:rethread
The film flirts with class envy, particularly during one confrontation with the rancher family, but the focus is on white supremacists running wild. The film likely wrapped production before the pandemic kicked in, but it’s astonishing to see wonton destruction without anyone whispering the word, “Antifa.”
We spent the last year watching far-Left forces like Black Lives Matter and Antifa torch cities, smash windows and leave expletive-laced graffiti in their wake. The latest “Purge” insists Trumpian bigots are destroying the country. It’s Fake News storytelling, especially when a tribal leader warns a TV interviewer about Purgers burning cities to the ground.
Has he seen the news today, oh boy.
there will be a HIATUS in GREG KELLY posting:He's probably joining Don Jr. and Ben Shapiro for the Bay of Pigs 2.0
https://twitter.com/gregkellyusa/status/1414271025727086603
Donald Trump is having trouble selling advance tickets for his upcoming speaking tour with conservative pundit Bill O’Reilly, according to interviews with ticketing officials for the venues.
Early last month, Trump and O’Reilly, the one-time top Fox News host, announced a joint “History Tour” featuring four stops in December. O’Reilly said his conversations with Trump “will not be boring,” while the former president promised “fun, fun, fun for everyone who attends.”
Tickets went on sale for the events on June 14. While most seats are priced between $100 and $300, a “VIP Meet & Greet Package” goes for more than $8,500 and includes getting pictures taken with Trump and O’Reilly and a pre-show, 45-minute reception.
The events are not until the end of the year, Trump’s camp notes. But so far, the pace of purchases has been slow compared to other acts, arena officials say.
In Orlando, where the duo is hosting an event at the 20,000-capacity Amway Center on Dec. 12, a box office employee for the arena said, “There’s still a lot of tickets open.” The person, who like others for this story insisted on anonymity to share confidential sales data, added: “We have concerts that are doing a lot better than this.” A Bad Bunny concert being held next March recently sold out within two days, for example, and the majority of seats for a Dec. 3 Kane Brown concert have been sold already.
For Trump’s Houston event with O’Reilly at the 19,000-seat Toyota Center, home to the NBA’s Houston Rockets, 60 to 65 percent of seats remain unsold, an employee with access to ticket sales information estimated. And in Sunrise, Florida, a box office employee at the BB&T Center said that they would have expected sales for the Trump-O’Reilly event there to have been “definitely higher” by now.
“It hasn’t been [selling] like crazy,” the person added, noting that events for comedian Katt Williams and podcast star Joe Rogan have done “significantly” better than the Trump-O’Reilly duo thus far.
https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1417454994165534721https://twitter.com/angelgirlfaith/status/1417546188807577602
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDsMdRrTs7M
that hair brehs :doge
Ex-gay? Isn’t he literally married to a dude? Or maybe he got the citizenship then dumped his ass?
What a sack of shit :lol
The chief executive of MyPillow Inc., one of Fox News’s big advertisers, said he is pulling his ads from the network after a disagreement over a proposed commercial.
Mike Lindell said he made the decision after Fox News declined to run a commercial linked to his efforts to promote his claims of widespread fraud in the 2020 presidential election.
MyPillow spent almost $50 million on Fox News last year and so far this year has shelled out about $19 million for ad time on the network, Mr. Lindell said.
Specifically, the complaint alleges that Kudlow said he wanted to have a “three-way” with Fox News anchor Sandra Smith, said he enjoyed seeing Fox Business reporter Susan Li on set and grunted, and in a phone conference about an upcoming interview with Salazar, allegedly asked “Why don’t we just let the Mexicans in,” because America needed more “jalapeño pickers.”
The USA Freedom Kids' brand has expanded to include merchandise, a ringtone, and registered their trademarked catchword "Ameritude."[30] CBS News also said that "these girls have Ameritude."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_Freedom_KidsQuoteThe USA Freedom Kids' brand has expanded to include merchandise, a ringtone, and registered their trademarked catchword "Ameritude."[30] CBS News also said that "these girls have Ameritude."
:fbm
https://twitter.com/KaiseratCB/status/1423622572197961735 (https://twitter.com/KaiseratCB/status/1423622572197961735)
I remember when Cernovich started this nonsense. The normies are now picking it up. :doge
The Toronto-based upstart Rumble said Thursday that it has struck deals with former U.S. congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard, the journalist firebrand Glenn Greenwald and others who had committed to posting their videos first to the site.https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1425889057209569280
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The company declined to provide financial details but Greenwald said the top creators’ year-long contracts will pay in the “midrange six figures.”
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The Rumble-funded creators will be free to post their videos elsewhere, including YouTube, after a two-hour Rumble-exclusive window.
Somehow it's even dumber than Rumblrfack the dumbazz mods :lol didn't know you had it in ya, trashy :mynicca
Somehow it's even dumber than Rumblr
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I'm shocked that conservative talking heads would use the collapse of Afghan government and the likely humanitarian issues that follow as an excuse to fear mongering about dirty foreigners and their strange ways.SHOCKED, I TELL YOU.
Kimberly Klacik, a former Republican congressional candidate in Maryland, is suing conservative commentator Candace Owens for $20 million in damages over an Instagram video Owens made in June in which she alleged Klacik had committed campaign fraud, money laundering, illegally used drugs and was a “madame” of a strip club, according to court documents.
The lawsuit alleges Owens “continues to support and encourage the harassment” of Klacik.
In the video, Owens says she is “not an investigative journalist,” and “could not confirm” any of the criminal allegations she makes against Klacik. But she went on to accuse Klacik of “money laundering, tax fraud and campaign fraud,” as well as paying vendors to “move money off the books” and working to recruit strippers for a strip club Owens says Klacik’s husband owns, according to the lawsuit.
“Ms. Klacik has lost and continues to lose financial opportunities, media appearances, and political support as a direct result of the Defendant’s malicious and wanton statements,” the lawsuit states. “Examples of such lost opportunities include the cancellation of a book deal, losing the sponsorship of a nationally-recognized media vendor, cancelled fundraisers, and lost support of previous political donors. Ms. Klacik and her family continue to be harassed daily, with Ms. Klacik specifically receiving harmful and degrading comments because of the defamatory claims made by the Defendant.”
The lawsuit alleges that the feud began over an argument about declaring Juneteenth a national holiday, an act by President Joe Biden that both Owens and Klacik opposed.
https://twitter.com/gregkellyusa/status/1440098876518645761https://twitter.com/gregkellyusa/status/1441099367696404488
At the end of our conversation, though, I could only shake my head and ask: Liz, how could there be only one of you?
She could only shake her head back.
https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1446529035836825631
It’s Time for a Better and Smarter Alliance Against Porn
Feminists and Evangelicals united once; they can unite again.
Last month I read a story that gave me a surge of cultural hope. No, strike that. It gave me another surge of cultural hope. And it made me ask a key question that afflicts more homes and more hearts than virtually any political issue that dominates the news. Is America ready for a culture change on pornography?
And that leads to a second question. Is America ready for a new alliance between feminists and Evangelicals, between left and right, to achieve that change?
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I want you to notice a few things from the reports above. First, they’re all from mainstream media outlets. The rising alarm at abuse and predation in the porn industry isn’t coming exclusively from conservative religious Americans. Second, the most effective remedies so far are coming from the “woke” corporations that so many conservatives love to hate. And third, the harms of porn outlined above aren’t just objective (involving concrete violations of legal rights), they’re also subjective, degrading and damaging the way in which women experience the world.
So what now? It’s time to remember an old alliance, to learn from its mistakes, and to understand its possibilities.
You think they use ZOOM or Teams?
https://twitter.com/gregkellyusa/status/1446109359801610242
Rules on the bore :nope
Benji, you are posting like a goddamn Dollar Tree version of Wario64 from 2007 who dreams about being able to afford escort services.This complaint is voiced a lot but nobody ever defines "wank dad" in a way that filters out stupid pundits.
Only instead of posting something useful like Videogame News or Pornography, you post Regurgitated Textual Diarrhea From The Red Human Centipede Known As MAGA.
Also, what happened to the rule where politics is ONLY allowed in the politics thread?
Mandark is a LEGEND
Benji can't even beat either one of those jobbers Malek or Willco, much less somebody actually good like Beezy or Dynamite Shikoku.
Tauntaun is the G.O.A.T.
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:miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto
Benji can't even beat either one of those jobbers Malek or Willcodamn dude what did i ever do to you
It is true that, a long time ago on the Bore, there were only two rules:
In fact, getting sick with the virus was his plan all along, he announced Monday during his show, which streams daily on YouTube.
“It is infinitely preferable to have natural immunity than vaccine immunity and that is what I have hoped for the entire time,” Prager told listeners from his home, where he is quarantining. “Hence... I have engaged with strangers, constantly hugging them, taking photos with them knowing that I was making myself very susceptible to getting COVID… [It is] what I wanted, in the hope I would achieve natural immunity and be taken care of by therapeutics. That is exactly what has happened.”
He has received a course of Regeneron’s monoclonal antibody treatment and told his audience that he has been following the “Zelenko Protocol,” an ineffectual combination of prescription drugs popular with the far right but not meant to treat COVID, and is now also taking ivermectin, an unapproved medication that is used in animals and humans to treat infections caused by parasitic worms and certain skin conditions, but again, not COVID.
“Taking therapeutics and supplements prophylactically requires education and discipline,” Prager told The Daily Beast, explaining that it seemed like a “prudent precaution,” but that he and his wife have both lost their sense of taste. “Not everyone has the time or the inclination to learn what they need to learn and follow through with daily and/or weekly consumption. I think each individual has to make their own cost/benefit analysis of both therapeutics and vaccines. I was not comfortable getting an experimental vaccine produced with brand-new technology that had never before been deployed in humans on a mass scale without long-term safety data. By definition, we won’t have that for a number of years.”
The Regeneron monoclonal antibody cocktail is still in the experimental stages and has only been approved for emergency use by the FDA
Prager told his audience on Monday that he tried his damndest to become infected with COVID by hugging “strangers in the thousands, literally in the thousands, while not being inoculated.”
“And finally, I got it from somebody,” he said, adding, “And it was a gamble, based on the knowledge, not based on being a gambler, I am not a gambler,” said Prager. “I certainly don’t gamble with my health, but I so believe science and the science of ivermectin, not the lies of The New York Times.”
Prager told his audience on Monday that he tried his damndest to become infected with COVID by hugging “strangers in the thousands, literally in the thousands, while not being inoculated.”:titus
“And finally, I got it from somebody,” he said, adding, “And it was a gamble, based on the knowledge, not based on being a gambler, I am not a gambler,” said Prager. “I certainly don’t gamble with my health, but I so believe science and the science of ivermectin, not the lies of The New York Times.”
what a strange career arc Russell brand has has, goes from presenting weird segments on UK mtv drugged off his tits to presenting a big brother spin off, to Britain's number one comedian to movie star to married to Katy Perry to political commentator who gets on the telly, to poor man's jimmy Dore :titusThe thing that sets Brand apart from Joe Rogan and others is that he's not a self-proclaimed 'fucking idiot'.
Thor's back and the limp-wristed garbage posters are running scared! :gladbron:woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo
thor will suck my fat hog :tauntaun
he was talking about da mods :brockThor's back and the limp-wristed garbage posters are running scared! :gladbron:woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo :woooo
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1455759676159709187Maybe he needs another Serbian coma :trumps
https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1457781588511494146 (https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1457781588511494146)very rational dude:
When all seems lost you have to protect the light
Bernie should lean in and get Musk to sell all his stocks and companies and live under a bridge just to 'own the libs'.
With that said, I doubt Bernie is even tweeting himself.
I taught tio bernie everything he knows tbh :pimpBernie should lean in and get Musk to sell all his stocks and companies and live under a bridge just to 'own the libs'.
With that said, I doubt Bernie is even tweeting himself.
1) 20% capital gains tax on 300 billion dollars will still leave him enough to get by without living under a bridge i'm sure.
2) Sanders didn't even come at Elon personally, he just asked the billionaires to pay their fair share, which is hardly a firebrand thrown to incite class warfare ::)
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1467256630479831042 (https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1467256630479831042)https://twitter.com/juliakmarsh/status/1467257273135386628
Fired CNN host Chris Cuomo is set to sue the network if it balks at paying him at least $18 million to cover what’s left on his contract, sources told The Post on Monday.
Cuomo, 51, has hired lawyers and is preparing to file the lawsuit over the remainder of the four-year contract he signed last year — after a bitter back-and-forth about what the network knew of his secret efforts to aid his embattled brother, then-Gov. Andrew Cuomo, said sources familiar with the matter.
His contract was reportedly worth $6 million annually, leaving between $18 million and $20 million that he would be owed, sources said, adding that Chris Cuomo would also likely seek damages.
But CNN has “no intention of paying [Chris] Cuomo a penny,” an insider said.
“If he gets a settlement, there would be uproar,” the source added.
In my opinion become a go-to expert on all things, especially politics, and the more that are outside your actual field and the less you actually study them the better. It used to be the "Intellectual Dark Web" (Jordan Peterson, Bret Weinstein, etc.) but that's fallen out of favor even among themselves and as they diminished the thread for me kinda just became blatantly ignorant pundits that somehow have large followings in general.In general I agree with your opinion but there's a wank dad spectrum, not everyone is wank dad all the time, sometimes people just act wank dad.
I have no idea what Nintex's criteria are.
NO SAMANTHA???WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO SAMANTHA?Guess we finally figured out what Twitter account Trump is using. :trumps
There were certain interpretive differences between my work and the 1619 Project on this point – for example, Hannah-Jones understated the extent to which antislavery motives shaped Lincoln’s support for the measure, which he saw as a pathway to wean the country away from the brutal plantation system. But the historical evidence of Lincoln’s deep connections to colonization was clear, and at least on that point the 1619 Project got it right.
That is, until Hannah-Jones realized that the historian she was citing was also an outspoken critic of other aspects of the 1619 Project.
“What are the credentials, exactly of Phil Magness?” Hannah-Jones fumed in another now-deleted comment after she realized that I had offered a less-than-favorable assessment of her project’s other historical claims, and particularly its error-riddled essay on the economics of slavery by Matthew Desmond. Her fury intensified in January 2020 after Alex Lichtenstein published a lengthy defense of the 1619 Project against his historian critics, attempting to invoke his authority as the editor of the American Historical Review to arbitrate the disputes over its claims about slavery in the Revolutionary through Civil War eras. At the time I pointed out that Lichtenstein – a 20th century historian – was not an expert in the antebellum United States, and was thus not qualified to assume the role of historical judge and jury on specialist claims about that era. Hannah-Jones snapped back, “Lol. You aren’t a specialist in that era either yet that didn’t stop you.”
Setting aside the fact that only a few weeks prior Hannah-Jones herself had been explicitly touting my work on Lincoln’s colonization projects to justify her own claims in the 1619 Project, I’ll simply note that I’ve authored over two dozen scholarly works on slavery and the Civil War era. This includes my aforementioned book, the chapter on colonization in the Essential Civil War Curriculum, as well as multiple peer-reviewed articles on slavery in the U.S. and broader Atlantic world. Hannah-Jones, by contrast, has no known original scholarship to her name of any kind on slavery or this period of American history.
At first, I chalked this bizarre exchange up to Hannah-Jones’s increasingly unprofessional approach to defending the 1619 Project. Instead of responding to substantive and factual critiques of her work, Hannah-Jones began directing personal abuse and insults at her critics.
When James McPherson offered his own less-than-flattering take on Hannah-Jones’s work in November 2019, she responded dismissively: “Who considers him preeminent? I don’t.” McPherson is a Pulitzer Prize-winning historian of the Civil War, and author of what is widely considered the standard single-volume treatment of the subject, Battle Cry of Freedom. In December 2019, McPherson joined distinguished scholars Gordon Wood, Sean Wilentz, Victoria Bynum, and James Oakes in questioning Hannah-Jones’s attempts to recast the American Revolution as a fight to preserve slavery. Rather than answer them, she dismissed the group as a whole by labeling them “white historians.”
Hannah-Jones saved her most brazenly abusive attacks though for African-American critics of the 1619 Project, such as Columbia University professor John McWhorter and journalist Coleman Hughes. When McWhorter, Hughes, and other African-American scholars launched a competitor 1776 Project in February 2020 through the Robert Woodson Center, Hannah-Jones lashed out on Twitter by posting photos of herself making derogatory gestures at her black interlocutors. Although she later deleted the tweets at the apparent request of her employer, Hannah-Jones made Hughes in particular a focus of her continued verbal abuse. “That Ivy League education certainly didn’t do you any favors,” she wrote in another comment to Hughes in August 2020. “Next time screenshot me and don’t quote text me because I’d rather not read your drivel. I tried to find something to quote tweet in that profoundly mediocre 1776 Project essay you wrote, but alas, nothing was worthy.”
It comes with little surprise, then, that my own experiences with Hannah-Jones followed a similar course after she realized that I was the author of the works on black colonization that she had previously been citing. Rather than engage with the evidence surrounding the disputed claims of her work, Hannah-Jones’s first impulse is to insult, attack, and dismiss the critic as “unqualified” to evaluate her work. Only historians that she cherry-picks to affirm her preconceived position, such as the University of South Carolina’s Woody Holton, are permitted under her credential-touting games.
Except in the case of Lincoln and colonization, Hannah-Jones even went so far as to modify her previous historical claims in order to avoid having to cite and credit a 1619 Project critic. As a result, I have the unusual distinction of having fallen from Hannah-Jones’ grace after she previously invoked my scholarship to support her work back in 2019. When an extended version of the 1619 Project came out in book form in November 2021, Hannah-Jones had not only excised substantial portions of her previous arguments about Lincoln – she cast about and found a new source to justify her revised interpretation on Lincoln.
The 1619 Project book now states only that Lincoln supported “colonization schemes as late as 1862,” and further implies that Lincoln abandoned the program after he issued the Emancipation Proclamation on January 1, 1863. Hannah-Jones’s new source for this revised claim appeared in footnote 38 of her essay: a 2016 popular press book entitled Stamped From the Beginning by Critical Race Theory activist Ibram X. Kendi.
Hannah-Jones’s new version of Lincoln’s colonization initiative is unambiguously wrong as a matter of history. One of the many discoveries I made while researching this subject was a colonization agreement that Lincoln signed on June 15, 1863 with the colonial government of British Honduras, or modern-day Belize. This document resides in the National Archives of Belize where I discovered it in 2011, and was previously unknown to any historian.
But as a broader matter of principle, Hannah-Jones’s behavior illustrates the absence of basic scholarly integrity from her approach to writing history. Rather than following the evidence where it leads, Hannah-Jones picks and chooses bits and pieces of her arguments from a secondary literature based on whether it conforms to her preconceived political narrative. She approaches citations as a tool by which she can reward other scholars who affirm that narrative. And if a previously-cited scholar runs afoul of Hannah-Jones, she is perfectly willing to alter the “history” presented in the 1619 Project in ways that excise the offending work and replace it with a completely different narrative – provided that its author flatters Hannah-Jones’s own personal politics and ambitions in the process.
Right-wing personality Candace Owens is urging her fans to consume a quack medical cure known for turning users’ skin blue.Based (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Jones_(Libertarian_politician)). :lawd
In an Instagram video posted on Thursday, Owens praised the use of colloidal silver as a daily supplement, a treatment that comes with no valid medical use and plenty of health risks.
“Yes, colloidal silver!” Owens said in the video. “I take colloidal silver every single day, I love colloidal silver. That is a great one. That is another one that people probably know nothing about.”
https://twitter.com/jkass99/status/1469726338328277009
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https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1480624900712935426I watched that Gutfeld fella once or twice and I really don't understand why he has a laugh track that they pretend is the audience :doge
Anyhow the best Wank Dad content as of late apart from Joe Rogan (who is now the #1 global information source and media outlet) had to be Tucker's Michael Jackson bitDisagree, Tucker is mostly low grade content.
twitter.com/TheJuggernaut88/status/1482687149179047937
The problem the Journo's have now is that most of Joe Rogan's friends are UFC fighters so you can't really gang on up on them without getting knocked out verbally or physically like you can on other wank dads.
Yet part of the letter reads::hmm
“As physicians, we bear the arduous weight of a pandemic that has stretched our medical systems to their limits and only stands to be exacerbated by the anti-vaccination sentiment woven into this and other episodes of Rogan’s podcast.”
Paradoxically, the disseminators of this petition are guilty of the very misinformation label that they’ve attached to Rogan. In fact, neither of the two reported co authors of the letter — Jessica Rivera and Ben Rein — possess medical degrees. Rivera holds a master’s degree and Rein is a PhD academic who researches psychiatry.
The letter denouncing Joe Rogan and pressuring Spotify to censor his speech has all kinds of random signatories. By my count, the letter is signed by over 50 PhD academics, around 60 college professors, 29 nurses, 10 students, 4 medical residents, and even a handful of… science podcasters.
The letter, which uses the word misinformation nine times in five paragraphs, concludes with a call for Spotify to censor Rogan as part of a policy to “moderate misinformation on the platform.”
Notably, there is no information on who or what group is behind the creation and circulation of the open letter. Rivera, the reported lead author of the letter, is associated with the far-left Rockefeller Foundation and The Atlantic, and she is a CNN contributor.
jayste Jan 16 Liked by Jordan Schachtel
We have 270 signatures here and over 15 THOUSAND medical professionals and scientists FIGHTING this nonsense and pushing for Nuremberg 2.0 for Crimes Against Humanity. I'll stick with REAL science instead of government propaganda.
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Leonidas Jan 16 Liked by Jordan Schachtel:rollsafe
Rogan is a hero and a fighter. How about we get the 96,000 signatories (or whatever it is now) of the Great Barrington Declaration to weigh in now? It’s time to get this party started and boot Fauci and his cronies influence out of our lives forever.
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I recently resigned from my position as full tenured professor at the University of Toronto. I am now professor emeritus, and before I turned sixty. Emeritus is generally a designation reserved for superannuated faculty, albeit those who had served their term with some distinction. I had envisioned teaching and researching at the U of T, full time, until they had to haul my skeleton out of my office. I loved my job. And my students, undergraduates and graduates alike, were positively predisposed toward me. But that career path was not meant to be. There were many reasons, including the fact that I can now teach many more people and with less interference online. But here’s a few more:
First, my qualified and supremely trained heterosexual white male graduate students (and I’ve had many others, by the way) face a negligible chance of being offered university research positions, despite stellar scientific dossiers. This is partly because of Diversity, Inclusivity and Equity mandates (my preferred acronym: DIE). These have been imposed universally in academia, despite the fact that university hiring committees had already done everything reasonable for all the years of my career, and then some, to ensure that no qualified “minority” candidates were ever overlooked. My students are also partly unacceptable precisely because they are my students. I am academic persona non grata, because of my unacceptable philosophical positions. And this isn’t just some inconvenience. These facts rendered my job morally untenable. How can I accept prospective researchers and train them in good conscience knowing their employment prospects to be minimal?
Just exactly what am I supposed to do when I meet a graduate student or young professor, hired on DIE grounds? Manifest instant skepticism regarding their professional ability? What a slap in the face to a truly meritorious young outsider. And perhaps that’s the point. The DIE ideology is not friend to peace and tolerance. It is absolutely and completely the enemy of competence and justice.
Finally, do you know that Vladimir Putin himself is capitalizing on this woke madness? Anna Mahjar-Barducci at MEMRI.org covered his recent speech. I quote from the article’s translation: “The advocates of so-called ‘social progress’ believe they are introducing humanity to some kind of a new and better consciousness. Godspeed, hoist the flags, as we say, go right ahead. The only thing that I want to say now is that their prescriptions are not new at all. It may come as a surprise to some people, but Russia has been there already. After the 1917 revolution, the Bolsheviks, relying on the dogmas of Marx and Engels, also said that they would change existing ways and customs, and not just political and economic ones, but the very notion of human morality and the foundations of a healthy society. The destruction of age-old values, religion, and relations between people, up to and including the total rejection of family (we had that, too), encouragement to inform on loved ones — all this was proclaimed progress and, by the way, was widely supported around the world back then and was quite fashionable, same as today. By the way, the Bolsheviks were absolutely intolerant of opinions other than theirs.
“This, I believe, should call to mind some of what we are witnessing now. Looking at what is happening in a number of Western countries, we are amazed to see the domestic practices — which we, fortunately, have left, I hope — in the distant past. The fight for equality and against discrimination has turned into aggressive dogmatism bordering on absurdity, when the works of the great authors of the past — such as Shakespeare — are no longer taught at schools or universities, because their ideas are believed to be backward. The classics are declared backward and ignorant of the importance of gender or race. In Hollywood, memos are distributed about proper storytelling and how many characters of what color or gender should be in a movie. This is even worse than the agitprop department of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.”
This, from the head of the former totalitarian enterprise, against whom we fought a five decades’ long Cold War, risking the entire planet (in a very real manner). This, from the head of a country riven in a literally genocidal manner by ideas that Putin himself attributes to the progressives in the West, to the generally accepting audience of his once-burned (once (!)) twice-shy listeners.
And all of you going along with the DIE activists, whatever your reasons: this is on you. Professors. Cowering cravenly in pretence and silence. Teaching your students to dissimulate and lie. To get along. As the walls crumble. For shame. CEOs: signalling a virtue you don’t possess and shouldn’t want to please a minority who literally live their lives by displeasure. You’re evil capitalists, after all, and should be proud of it. At the moment, I can’t tell if you’re more reprehensibly timid even than the professors. Why the hell don’t you banish the human resource DIE upstarts back to the more-appropriately-named Personnel departments, stop them from interfering with the psyches of you and your employees, and be done with it? Musicians, artists, writers: stop bending your sacred and meritorious art to the demands of the propagandists before you fatally betray the spirit of your own intuition. Stop censoring your thought. Stop saying you will hire for your orchestral and theatrical productions for any reason other than talent and excellence. That’s all you have. That’s all any of us have.
He who sows the wind will reap the whirlwind. And the wind is rising.
Not sure if the world is ready for 4.5 hours of JORP and ROGANToo bad I misplaced my coupon for a free bunker-buster strike.
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1485769973809168385 (https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1485769973809168385)
https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1492217020619759618
What's the deal with perverts
what the fuck :dead
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1po9pNs8RU
https://twitter.com/TheKavernacle/status/1494643729432514603Is he going to sing?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMp9YeJX0AALiTu?format=png&name=small)Ukraine is blowing up their own tanks and bombing their own cities for the propaganda effort :rollsafe
https://youtu.be/CVRxKlufj-k
kirk's head and face looks like if you took a cartoon character and brought it into real life :lol
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https://twitter.com/roddreher/status/1510746411591159816
Harry Potter, not 1984, is her reference? :whatHarry Potter is a great fiction novel to read but it seems like it is becoming the reality we are currently living under more and more each day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AmOqQOOPn8
Bartimus (Formally Dick Tingler) :dead
:nsfwhttps://twitter.com/rajat_suresh/status/1526325536590635012
Jorp has pretty narrow ideas of attractive female body types.
I would like a list ofJorp Approved Hoes plz :shaq
The claims appear in a new pro-Trump film called "2,000 Mules,"
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Trump's official spokesperson, Liz Harrington, said True The Vote "solved a murder of a young little girl in Atlanta. I mean, they are heroes." Fans of the film have echoed that message on social media.
That claim is false.
Authorities in Georgia arrested and secured indictments against two suspects in the murder of Secoriea Turner in August 2021.
In response to NPR's inquiries, True The Vote acknowledged it had contacted law enforcement more than two months later, meaning it played no role in those arrests or indictments.
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"We chose to look at two murders that were ebbing on cold case status," Engelbrecht says in one scene of the film. The film then describes just one case: the killing of Secoriea Turner on July 4, 2020 in Atlanta.
Phillips says he and his team obtained device data from the area of the shooting, which showed "only a handful of unique devices that could have pulled the trigger...each of these devices has a unique device ID, and we turned the bulk of this information over to the Federal Bureau of Investigation."
"Now, I read they've arrested two suspects," D'Souza responds to Phillips.
"They have," Phillips says.
In an episode of his podcast promoting the film, D'Souza said Phillips and Engelbrecht provided their analysis to the FBI, which turned the data over to the Georgia Bureau of Investigation (GBI). "Shortly after that," D'Souza said, "boom" - there were two arrests and indictments.
NPR contacted the GBI to fact-check this claim.
"The GBI did not receive information from True the Vote that connected to the Secoriea Turner investigation," said Nelly Miles, the GBI's Director of the Office of Public and Governmental Affairs.
An attorney for Secoriea Turner's family told NPR they had never heard of Engelbrecht's and Phillips' analysis either.
"I am not aware that any of this occurred," said the attorney, Mawuli Davis.
Engelbrecht and Phillips told NPR they did not have time for an interview, and Engelbrecht responded to NPR's questions by email.
Engelbrecht wrote that she "called a contact at the FBI" and Phillips gave him the information about the Turner case "on or about October 25, 2021."
But the Fulton County District Attorney announced the indictment of both defendants more than two months earlier, on Aug. 13, 2021.
"There is an international organization called ACLED [Armed Conflict Location & Event Data Project] that monitors the cell phones of all violent rioters around the world," D'Souza said on the Dan Bongino Show. "What True The Vote did was they took the cell phone data on the mules and matched it against the ACLED data on the rioters. And guess what? There's a pretty big overlap."
In the film, Phillips also cites ACLED, which is a nonprofit research organization.
"There's an organization that tracks the device IDs across all violent protests around the world. We took a look at our 242 mules in Atlanta and, sure enough, dozens and dozens and dozens of our mules show up on the ACLED databases," Phillips says in the film. "This is not grandma out walking her dog, these are, you know, violent criminals sometimes."
ACLED told NPR both claims are categorically false.
"This is not the type of analysis you can use ACLED data for, and it is highly unlikely that these conclusions have any basis in fact," said Sam Jones, senior communications manager at ACLED.
"This is not what we do - we do not track device IDs," Roudabeh Kishi, the director of research and innovation at ACLED, told NPR in an interview.
ACLED does track violent incidents around the world, including riots, as well as peaceful protests. Their data do not include specific locations inside a city - such as neighborhoods or city blocks - where protests took place. ACLED does not track the time of day of those incidents or generally note individual participants, except for high-profile leaders.
Kishi said ACLED welcomes input and questions from researchers who might be interested in using ACLED's data. "We never heard from the filmmakers," said Kishi.
"Seeing things like this is quite frustrating, because this is really the direct opposite of what we're trying to do," said Kishi.
In an email to NPR, Engelbrecht said that Phillips was not actually referring to ACLED when he said, "There's an organization that tracks the device IDs across all violent protests around the world" and then mentioned ACLED. She would not specify what organization Phillips was citing, and said Phillips relied on "multiple databases" to reach the conclusion included in the film.
Phillips said in another interview with right-wing commentator Charlie Kirk that it took "12 people, 16 hours a day, for 15 months" to conduct their data analysis. To help with that effort, Phillips said, "We actually do have access to several very high-powered computers.":bedroomeyes
"We do most of the work in Plano, Tex., and part of the work in the High Performance Computing Center on the campus of Starkville, Miss.," Phillips told Kirk in the interview, which has more than a million views on Rumble.
It appears that Phillips was referring to the Portera High Performance Computing Center, which houses the High Performance Computing Collaboratory at Mississippi State University in Starkville. NPR contacted the university to learn more.
"Mississippi State University, to our knowledge, has done zero analysis or computing on behalf of True The Vote," said Sid Salter, Chief Communications Officer and Director of the Office of Public Affairs at Mississippi State University.
The closest Phillips got to the computing center, Salter said, was a "publicly available tour" of the facility.
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Even after NPR provided Salter's comments to Engelbrecht, she continued to claim that Phillips "leased an office in the Portera High Performance Computing Center."
Mississippi State University then provided NPR with a copy of OpSec's lease agreement, signed by Phillips, which shows that his office was actually in a separate facility called the Industry Partners Building.
2000 Mules is a 2022 American political film by Dinesh D'Souza that falsely[2][3][4] alleges Democrat-aligned individuals, or "mules," were paid by unnamed nonprofit organizations to illegally collect and deposit ballots into drop boxes in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin during the 2020 presidential election.
The film presented a single anonymous witness who said she saw people picking up what she "assumed" to be payments for ballot collection in Arizona; no evidence of payments was presented in any of the other four states.[4] The film presents no evidence that ballots were collected from a nonprofit to be deposited in drop boxes.[5]
I don't know if you realize... but you are a bunch of Ben Afflecks.
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/837733610157387779
According to google there is no airborne aspect.JRE episode #1067 says otherwise. Plus Jorp spend 6 months on a nut diet which nearly killed him if it wasn't for an Uzbek witch doctors detoxing treatment. Stay safe everyone
at my old workplace one entire floor had a no peanut policy because one of my colleauges had a severe allergy that would potentially kill her if she so much as smelled a peanut
at my old workplace one entire floor had a no peanut policy because one of my colleauges had a severe allergy that would potentially kill her if she so much as smelled a peanut
I googled this and it's wrong, unless you were being hyperbolic.
at my old workplace one entire floor had a no peanut policy because one of my colleauges had a severe allergy that would potentially kill her if she so much as smelled a peanut
I googled this and it's wrong, unless you were being hyperbolic.
i don't know i guess i just assume they banned peanuts on an entire floor for a valid reason
What is it that Trump could do that no one has ever done with straight unbiased reporting? Think about it. The reason no one wants straight, unbiased reporting is that no one would watch it. If you give me "just the news," no one will watch it. So it's not a business model that works.
What is the one thing that Trump, alone among anybody, could fix? He could make you watch the news. And he could also make sure you heard both sides, and he could also take his time.
Imagine if he took a Rush Limbaugh-style three or four-hour block every day and had on experts from both sides and then just dusted them both off.
Instead of having one expert give their opinion, which is the worst model in the world (how it is currently being done), or there is a time limit and two experts say the other is wrong before they run out of time and the public gets nothing.
But you give me a three or four-hour block, it doesn't have to be every day and it could be recorded, and you have Trump beating up both sides and calling bullshit on both sides, I could not turn away from that. That would be so provocative and interesting, especially if you allowed swearing.
If you allowed swearing, and let Trump mediate and interrupt and control it, it would be maddening and frustrating and beautiful. Trump could do this with his specific set of talents (especially his talent stack from having once been President of the United States) and his natural ability to provoke, his personality in the room, his desire to be in front of the public, his desire to make a difference, his desire to change things.
The most entertaining path for the observers, that is us, would be for Trump to save us by not running for president. If he runs for president, we're going to fight more. But wouldn't you love to see Trump host a climate change debate and actually see Trump's mind getting changed in real-time? I'm not saying it would or should, but how much would you love to watch that?:dead :dead :dead :dead
How much would you love someone who is qualified and smart and has a nice chunk of time, like a whole Joe Rogan-length, three-hour block, wrestling with Trump and someone on the other side until you actually watched Trump change his mind on a major topic right in front of you? Because he could. Trump would be able to pull that off, especially if it had entertainment value. Michael Shellenberger would be the type of guest who would be perfect for that format.
So you've heard the idea. Trump becomes the Rush Limbaugh replacement but way better because he's got people on and he's fighting with them and he's really getting down to the good stuff. That opens the path for a moderate Republican who could pretty much walk in and take over everything at this point.
This would basically give you everything. And the "legitimate" news would still be fighting with Trump but when they're fighting with Trump it is like CNN vs. FOX News, it is not really hurting anybody, it is just kind of entertaining.
So you tell me that's not the best thing for America.
The company also announced Wednesday that DailyWire+ has signed a multi-year deal with psychologist, professor and author Jordan Peterson and will also handle the ad sales and distribution associated with The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast.
Peterson’s show will continue to be posted on a twice-weekly basis, with his existing podcast and video library housed on the platform and exclusive bonus content.
Unless I delete the hateful tweet in question but I would rather die than do that:salute
someone buy me a sub :uguu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYfKWQqvFac
:salute It's rare to see such bravery in the face of persecution.
Male Pattern Baldness
https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1550116683599134726
I'm embarrassed at how much I used to like this fucking fartsniffer.I mean, he did try to tell us all for years how weird he was.
https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1550116683599134726https://twitter.com/scottadamssays/status/1278316325044056064
Alex Moyer has now made two movies in a row, TFW No GF and Alex’s War, that sound too much like journalism for today’s media. (...) She takes characters reduced in panicked media treatments to two-dimensional monsters and renders a nonjudgmental, tautly edited Herzogian treatment of who they are and how they came to be that way.
I mostly think Alex was done wrong by the toxic people he met and hired along the way.
I'm not saying that he also hasn't himself blame for getting into this jam, but I am saying that the people he met mostly spend their time making it worse and ensured he dug the hole deeper.QuoteI mostly think Alex was done wrong by the toxic people he met and hired along the way.
:rogan
Jones truly has amazing PR.
The nasty Bircher, British Israelism, racist foundation was always there.
I mostly think Alex was done wrong by the toxic people he met and hired along the way. To briefly explain. Alex Jones was always anti-government and anti elites (anti-bush, anti-obama, anti-big oil, anti-war, anti-WEF) what have you.:lol
He talked about the Epstein story way before it was accepted to do so and he put many other things 'out there' in terms of corruption and abuse of power that were either true or partially true.
In essence, filtering out the UFO's and Goblins it wasn't much different from Jimmy Dore or Russell Brand. Explaining to people that the system is fucking them over and how and to fight that corruption by staying 'informed' about 'what is really going on'.
As InfoWars expanded on the alt-right/Trump wave however, more and more people with a clear political agenda joined. Roger Stone, Owen Shroyer and the lot. They moved Alex from being anti-government to anti-liberal and anti-progressive and made themselves known to his audience. Drowning out Alex' humanitarianism with mostly traditional conservatism and the culture war. Considering he was on his own for a long time Alex was at first happy with the support and the increase in attention. Only later stating he wished he had never met Roger Stone as getting so much attention would ultimately destroy him.
What Alex needs more than anything (and Joe Rogan explained this perfectly) is an editor.
But he never got that, instead people used him for their own agenda and now he's the fall guy.
Taibbi: Right. Also that instinct to say that the subject matter itself is illegitimate has actually advanced since you made the other movie. So to do Alex Jones, people perhaps won’t even get to the point of watching the movie. It’ll be that forbidden.
Moyer: Oh no, they’ll watch it, they just won’t admit it. They’ll watch it secretly.
People like Nintex are how well known and established grifters keep getting elected/hired/popular.
https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1554462703288451074
Even worse than that.https://www.theonion.com/starbucks-to-begin-sinister-phase-two-of-operation-1819565956
https://mobile.twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1557709537594945536
https://twitter.com/BudrykZack/status/1557810670678179840
So still no confirmation on who he was arrested by, and for what?Arrested and executed
No idea where to post this but I have to post it, literally am legally required to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOfvaUwWi2k
No idea where to post this but I have to post it, literally am legally required to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOfvaUwWi2k
:lol Does he ever take that fucking hat off?
Timcast has to be the all time worst name for a band ever too :rofl
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fco_HRdakAAU64G?format=jpg&name=small)
:trumps
:doge :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgF92Wi8J7o
twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1579773806289178625Joe Rogan: most obvious question in the world
Joe absolutely wrecks this clown :lol
https://twitter.com/DaveClips/status/1584214081187500034
Don't tell me theres a Jordan Peterson tie and blazer badge set :deadNo just custom made suits and ties with little Elon Musk heads and tweets on them
Now that Disney has been brought to heel the bois are coming for AppleHe's right though
https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1597773424516300801 (https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1597773424516300801)
Not mad at all.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1610389331667193857
Canada is becoming a communist state. Makes sense given their leader is the son of Castro. :heh
The contract reads like a dream: four weeks of paid vacation, full editorial control over content produced, a staff to help promote and adapt content, and the right to retain ownership of any content Crowder produced prior to joining The Daily Wire. Responding to Crowder’s claims that the company was doing the bidding of Big Tech by penalizing potential loss of advertising revenue, [Daily Wire CEO] Boreing explained that a contract represents a joint venture between the parties, meaning that both parties “lose a little” when revenue is affected.
“Steven’s philosophy seems to be: ‘I deserve to be paid millions and millions and millions of dollars whether my show drives the revenue or not.’ That’s not a business relationship … He’s looking for a benefactor,” Boreing told viewers. He also revealed that in a phone call with Crowder following the publication of his video on Thursday, the host indicated he believed he was worth closer to $30 million a year.
“You can’t just say, ‘We’re going to pay you $50 million even if the show doesn’t bring in any money,’” Boreing countered, adding that $50 million minus 25 percent “is not punishment by the standards of any human being.”
Crowder, who had previously lambasted NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick for comparing the league’s contracts to slavery, complained that the proposals floated to him like the one from The Daily Wire were essentially “slave contacts.”
The Daily Wire insultingly offered Steven Crowder $50 million and he refuses to take this injustice anymore:
People said oh he's a bitch releasing that. He's only recorded people three times. I don't record people very often but I did with Megyn Kelly because when it's that evil you should record it.
There's some good people at the Daily Wire, I don't wanna attack them all, but I'm just telling you folks they are worse than the Democrats. They are the Judas goats, they are Judas Iscariot. Ben Shapiro is Judas Iscariot.
https://twitter.com/joshrogin/status/1629646901158064129 (https://twitter.com/joshrogin/status/1629646901158064129)
and they tell you cancel culture isn't real.
Fake news!
We all know Dilbert is being cancelled because the papers think Adams is pro vaccine due to a misleading Ben Garrison cartoon!
https://twitter.com/yoloswagstudios/status/1629955108590219264 (https://twitter.com/yoloswagstudios/status/1629955108590219264)
"It's not my kid's fault, it's not my wife's fault. Don't blame them"
Nobody was blaming them
How long has this thread existedIt's the second one. Etoliate created the original, that's somewhere, to spread the good word of Jordan Peterson even as he refused to read the books, which others did in order to make fun of him.
sack-o-matic:hmm
6 hr. ago
The suburbs were literally built for white men to isolate their families so this tracks
https://twitter.com/alittleleader/status/1686563015095697408
Dinesh "Yung Deezy" D'Souza spent a few months at a white collar resort, so he's an expert on urban culture now.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7RoP1LKMeM
https://twitter.com/BriannaWu/status/1699945245310337136
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QER1J6v_wQ