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Beezy · « **Reply #2160 on:** May 25, 2011, 11:55:48 PM »

Dirk

etiolate · « **Reply #2161 on:** May 25, 2011, 11:57:25 PM »

REBOUNdZSZ

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #2162 on:** May 26, 2011, 12:01:40 AM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on April 14, 2011, 01:53:21 AM

I'm rooting for the heat mainly to piss off all the haters even though they have issues as a squad.

I also kinda have a soft spot for the Mavs. I want them to do well this post-season.

These playoffs are turning out just how I wanted.

Also

Mandark · « **Reply #2163 on:** May 26, 2011, 02:14:03 AM »

Man, that game had some of the best layups. Both teams were finding cutters, and Westbrook especially had some doozies.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #2164 on:** May 26, 2011, 02:47:02 AM »

I literally lolled when Mike Breen said with Dirk at the line, 'Nowitzki has been to the line 58 times in this series...he has missed two'.

Blistering. I like this Mavs team a lot - I've enjoyed every series they've been in, and damn near every game. I think they still have an uphill struggle to win it, though they would match up pretty well against Miami in quite a few areas. Bench scoring, interior D. Kidd should be fine against Bibby (and Kidd still has an amazing eye for the ball, and great hands. He's aging amazingly well). Marion is a decent option on LeBron. Overall, they stretch the floor far better than anyone the Heat has faced bar the Celtics, and covering their shooters definitely wore them down a bit. That's going to have to be Dallas' gameplan: try to get back at the 3pt line what they give up in transition, and hope Dirk can still score against Miami's D.

(Not totally counting out the Bulls, but it's a real long shot that they will come back - i'd say about 10%)

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #2165 on:** May 26, 2011, 10:24:24 AM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on May 26, 2011, 12:01:40 AM

Quote from: Stoney Mason on April 14, 2011, 01:53:21 AM
I'm rooting for the heat mainly to piss off all the haters even though they have issues as a squad.

I also kinda have a soft spot for the Mavs. I want them to do well this post-season.

(Image removed from quote.)

Deal with it, America!

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #2166 on:** May 26, 2011, 01:03:46 PM »

I feel sorry for Mike Brown. Coaching a declining Kobe Bryant will be one of the most frustrating jobs ever.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #2167 on:** May 26, 2011, 03:55:36 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on May 26, 2011, 10:24:24 AM

Deal with it, America!

Brehvolution · « **Reply #2168 on:** May 26, 2011, 03:58:53 PM »

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #2169 on:** May 26, 2011, 04:24:23 PM »

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #2170 on:** May 26, 2011, 09:26:21 PM »

miami playing pretty terrible right now, and wade is STILL showing he can't play against a good defense.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #2171 on:** May 26, 2011, 10:03:50 PM »

It's odd that Wade keeps settling for jump shots. Especially when his shot isn't really working.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #2172 on:** May 26, 2011, 10:27:10 PM »

gaf in "controversy!!!!!!" mode

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #2173 on:** May 26, 2011, 10:37:27 PM »

Wade is 2 of 8. 9 turnovers. What the hell.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #2174 on:** May 26, 2011, 10:46:17 PM »

It's obvious Bosh is the best against the Bulls this series. They should be feeding him the ball.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #2175 on:** May 26, 2011, 10:52:56 PM »

Lebron is being selfish again. And Wade is TERRIBLE.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #2176 on:** May 26, 2011, 10:53:36 PM »

Heat have lost this one. I guess they can take consolation in the fact that Wade and Lebron both decided to have their worst games of the year in the same game which seems unlikely to happen in the next. And its a home game.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #2177 on:** May 26, 2011, 11:07:16 PM »

LOL.

Bulls choking this away.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #2178 on:** May 26, 2011, 11:07:28 PM »

HOLY SHIT

Lebron: the real MVP

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #2179 on:** May 26, 2011, 11:10:20 PM »

Bulls

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #2180 on:** May 26, 2011, 11:13:09 PM »

This is nearly as bad as the Thunder

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #2181 on:** May 26, 2011, 11:13:39 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on May 26, 2011, 11:13:09 PM

This is nearly as bad as the Thunder

This is worse imo. The Heat were playing a lot worse than the Mavs were at the time.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #2182 on:** May 26, 2011, 11:16:13 PM »

Just hysterical. Wow. This is so fucking funny

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #2183 on:** May 26, 2011, 11:19:33 PM »

pathetic shit, seriously

lebron is fucking ridiculous, though. dude is the best player on the planet, sorry dirk

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #2184 on:** May 26, 2011, 11:21:51 PM »

Yeah that was stunning. I haven't seen a late game collapse like that since...

Well the funny answer is last night but this just seems so much worse. Maybe because I consider the Thunder really young and I didn't expect them to win the series as much as I thought the bulls had a chance.

Cormacaroni was right and I was wrong. Heat dust the Bulls in 5. It was a closer series than 4-1 indicates but the Bulls just looked a lot worse than I thought they would on offense.

Derrick Rose finishes that series at 35%.

Wade didn't have a great offensive series either shooting 39%.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #2185 on:** May 26, 2011, 11:24:05 PM »

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #2186 on:** May 26, 2011, 11:28:03 PM »

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I don't know whats worse..

The horrible refereeing against the bulls, leBums acting, the disgusting offense by the bulls to let the cHeat come back into the game with 2 minutes left in the fourth, or roses mvp unclutch freethrow to not tie the game(then going on to miss a three in the dying seconds)....

Stern ball...

Fuck the NBA...

Go Mavs, Go Dirk you're our only hope!! Send the wicked whence it came!!!

oh gaf, never change

etiolate · « **Reply #2187 on:** May 26, 2011, 11:58:48 PM »

stern ball is BS and pretty ugly to watch

at least the thunder got ousted so I don't have to watch 3 hours of free throws

Halp us Dirk, halp us all

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #2188 on:** May 27, 2011, 12:15:48 AM »

I called Rose being a bust on draft night. Feeling vindicated right now

Good game, epic choke. LeBron is on another planet right now holy shit.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #2189 on:** May 27, 2011, 12:23:49 AM »

stern ball? come now etoilet, there were fouls called on both teams, and the calls were for the most part correct in this game. The Bulls were being morons. Enough said.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #2190 on:** May 27, 2011, 12:26:05 AM »

Bulls and Heat were just fighting for second place anyway.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #2191 on:** May 27, 2011, 02:24:30 AM »

God, I just do not know what the Mavericks are going to do against that defense. They better shoot like no team has ever shot before, is all I can say.

Mandark · « **Reply #2192 on:** May 27, 2011, 02:27:19 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on May 27, 2011, 12:15:48 AM

Feeling vindicated right now

Oh really?

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on March 06, 2011, 10:36:42 PM

Quote from: Great Rumbler on March 06, 2011, 06:59:24 PM
Spurs, Mavs, Lakers, and possibly the Thunder in the West. Celtics, Heat, Bulls, and maybe the Magic and Hawks in the East.

So, that's six with a real chance and three more with an outside shot.

You seriously think the Thunder and Heat have a chance to win?

Lakers Celtics. Maybe the Bulls. Spurs will be run out by a faster/younger team, Mavs will choke, Dwight Howard will disappear for the Magic, etc.

Unfair on my part, and you got the Spurs bang on, but too good to pass up.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #2193 on:** May 27, 2011, 02:36:41 AM »

well played, sir.

(not that it matters but it was more like the Magic disappeared on Dwight Howard, wasn't it)

Alright, Nostradamuses, who ya got in how many games.

Mandark · « **Reply #2194 on:** May 27, 2011, 02:55:07 AM »

Really would like to see the Mavs win from here, but worried that they might go down in a deceptively close 5 game series. On the other hand, Miami seems like the sort of team JJ Barea was born to exploit, right?

Whatever happens, I don't wanna hear anyone blather on about whoever loses this series being a bunch of chokers and all that, unless they do something epically embarrassing like Webber calling a timeout that didn't exist in the NCAA tourney.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #2195 on:** May 27, 2011, 02:59:46 AM »

Miami seem like the kind of team Derrick Rose was born to exploit...as has been pounded home to me this playoffs, individual match-ups really don't matter much when the team defense is this strong.

I am rooting for the Mavs as well (LeBron WANTS us to hate him now, I swear), but I don't see them lasting more than 6 games. They will get 6 days of rest though, I think...that has to help. Who has home court? The Heat?

Mandark · « **Reply #2196 on:** May 27, 2011, 03:05:36 AM »

The Heat by a game.

Miami might have shut down Rose, but they could afford to load up on a single player. Dallas almost has to score better than Chicago did, but the question is how much (and how many more points they're gonna give up).

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #2197 on:** May 27, 2011, 03:11:40 AM »

and by the way

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #2198 on:** May 27, 2011, 03:15:30 AM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on May 27, 2011, 02:24:30 AM

God, I just do not know what the Mavericks are going to do against that defense. They better shoot like no team has ever shot before, is all I can say.

Well, Dirk has that covered, at least.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #2199 on:** May 27, 2011, 03:26:27 AM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on May 27, 2011, 03:15:30 AM

Quote from: Cormacaroni on May 27, 2011, 02:24:30 AM
God, I just do not know what the Mavericks are going to do against that defense. They better shoot like no team has ever shot before, is all I can say.

Well, Dirk has that covered, at least.

An examination of the odds of Dirk shooting like he did in Game 1 again:
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/29569/mavs-in-finals-as-luck-would-have-it

Dirk is shooting great generally, but he isn't going to be setting any records against Miami. No-one is.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #2200 on:** May 27, 2011, 03:41:26 AM »

No fair Mandark, I said I was vindicated about Rose not my other predictions, which were not meant to be factual /kyl

Heat in six!

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #2201 on:** May 27, 2011, 04:00:11 AM »

You're not vindicated about Rose in any shape or form, gtfo

He is not the MVP, but he isn't a fucking bust or anything close to it. Are you even watching these playoffs or just reading about them on GAF?

Mandark · « **Reply #2202 on:** May 27, 2011, 04:18:49 AM »

Peedee's trollin, trollin, trollin.

I'll admit, I am feeling a little smug about Rose cause I let myself read about a billion badly-argued columns explaining why he was the MVP (while his twin Russell Westbrook gets talked about as trade bait(!!!)) and I'm always down for a bit of pundit comeuppance. But he's a great player and I'm psyched that I'll get to watch his career as it happens.

Damn this is a good time to be watching professional basketball.

PS That XKCD strip is pure, dead-on annihilation.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #2203 on:** May 27, 2011, 04:24:51 AM »

I was pulling for Rose to get past LeBron a few times in the 4th, I admit. But you have to be realistic about it in the same way that you process say, Iverson losing to Shaq and Kobe. Was he great? Yes. Did he get beat? Yes. Could ANY one player have beat a fairly deep team with those two on it at that point? Probably not.

The Westbrook hatin' is typical Only-show-up-for-the-playoffs sports radio troll bait as well. Anyone who has watched Westbrook the past couple of years knows that his decision making is RADICALLY better than it used to be. He really didn't have a fucking clue about the position, or much of a shot. He has come a long way and he is clearly pointed in the right direction. You don't trade someone like that unless they want out.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #2204 on:** May 27, 2011, 09:29:44 AM »

I'll say Heat in 6 for the Finals.

The Mavericks do present some problems. They have knockdown 3 shooters on their rosters and Miami is very vulnerable to that with the type of defense they play. Dirk has been crazy hot and statistically the best player of these playoffs. And Shawn Marion seems to have found his game and his confidence which has been MIA the last few years. I think Rick Carlisle is a very good coach and leagues beyond Spoelstra. But they are also relatively weak on defense outside of chandler compared to what the Heat have faced. I can't imagine Kidd being as effective as he was against them as he was with the Thunder. And I think the layoff should help Haslem and maybe Miller get a little more in form to help out.

But honestly it really comes down to Lebron and Wade. These two are just so good they erase a lot of deficiencies. I thought the Heat Index grades on ESPN after game 5 with the bulls hit the nail on the head.

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Star Power
GRADE
A
The Heat were outplayed in nearly every facet. But that can cease to matter when you have two players capable of pouring in 17 points in just more than three and a half minutes. To put things bluntly, this is why the hype existed -- two players came together who are capable of putting a more complete team away on a moment's notice when nothing appears to be going their way.

Also

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With Deng, Rose, Brewer, Thomas and Taj Gibson on the court, the Bulls had their defensive unit in place, seemingly poised with the 12-point cushion, to hold off a potential rally. And when James missed another rare free throw following the Heat timeout and Brewer followed with one of two foul shots to restore the lead to 12 with 3:14 left, the Bulls' lead still appeared safe.

In fact, after 10,000 simulations, Accuscore.com calculated that at that point, the Heat had just a 1 percent chance of winning the game.

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/columns/story?columnist=isaacson_melissa&id=6597932

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #2205 on:** May 27, 2011, 09:48:56 AM »

Isn't that basically the same thing the Mavs did in Game 4?

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #2206 on:** May 27, 2011, 10:06:36 AM »

Uh, the Mavs took a whole quarter to do it.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #2207 on:** May 27, 2011, 10:13:44 AM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on May 27, 2011, 10:06:36 AM

Uh, the Mavs took a whole quarter to do it.

5:30 minutes is a whole quarter now?

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #2208 on:** May 27, 2011, 10:16:49 AM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on May 27, 2011, 09:48:56 AM

Isn't that basically the same thing the Mavs did in Game 4?

I think what the Mavs did was impressive. Very impressive against the Thunder. I guess for me what it boils down to is it shows how specifically good those two players can be which is why they are a handful. They were both mostly having sub-par games for their standards. And then just those two by themselves were able to completely turn around a game with so little time. It really was jordan/pippenesque and I've pretty much refrained from using that comparison all season for lots of reasons. It's odd to say but the Mavs one was less impressive simply because they already play a more team oriented version of basketball especially on offense. When the Heat can do it with just two players and you know its coming but still can't stop it, that's why its special.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #2209 on:** May 27, 2011, 10:17:44 AM »

Man, how cruel would it be for the Mavs to win the first two games, then lose 4 straight again? I can totally see this happening though.

Looks like Miami has home court too...by one lousy game (58 to the Mavs' 57). Ouch.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #2210 on:** May 27, 2011, 07:07:19 PM »

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Great Rumbler · « **Reply #2211 on:** May 27, 2011, 07:20:55 PM »

Dirk's best highlight of the Western Conference Finals is him leaving in the middle of the award ceremony.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #2212 on:** May 28, 2011, 01:19:50 PM »

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Cormacaroni · « **Reply #2213 on:** May 28, 2011, 01:51:42 PM »

the sound Barkley's rings make when he throws them down on the table

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #2214 on:** May 29, 2011, 01:03:39 AM »

that was too long, but still pretty great

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #2215 on:** May 29, 2011, 02:31:27 AM »

MVPenis

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #2216 on:** May 29, 2011, 02:47:25 PM »

I like the quotes at the beginning of the video. The thing is the Heat Hate just turned people absolutely stupid. You could make a 20 minute youtube video of all the dumb things people have said since the beginning of the year and how its turned out completely wrong for them. And none of them will admit it.

"I'd take Derrick Rose over Lebron" is just a really stupid thing to say. Not because Derrick Rose isn't a really good player. But Real Talk here. What GM isn't going to take the 250 to 270 pound, 6 foot 8, can dribble and play world class defense specimen that is Lebron over Rose. C'mon Bucher. Pull your head out of your ass.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #2217 on:** May 29, 2011, 02:50:35 PM »

My Heat Hate is completely irrational, but I don't care.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #2218 on:** May 29, 2011, 02:53:07 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on May 29, 2011, 02:50:35 PM

My Heat Hate is completely irrational, but I don't care.

I don't mind irrational heat hate. It's sports. People are allowed to be irrational. I just don't like it when people say completely stupid things or get proven completely wrong and then pretend they never said those stupid things. Especially if they are paid to be rational. It's like the Daily Show when Jon Stewart shows Fox News clips.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #2219 on:** May 29, 2011, 03:49:52 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on May 29, 2011, 02:50:35 PM

My Heat Hate is completely irrational, but I don't care.

No, it's not irrational. 2006 Finals man, never forget.

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