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Cormacaroni · « **Reply #4740 on:** March 29, 2012, 10:08:01 PM »

Anthony should not be starting for anybody. I wish commentators would STFU about his intangibles and effort and occasionally mention that he is literally the greatest offensive liability in the entire league. As in, no matter how great his D, his offense is SO BAD that he hurts them every time he's on the floor, even in an offense where he barely has to do anything.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #4741 on:** March 29, 2012, 10:13:13 PM »

I agree. I'd rather the Heat get a competent center instead of going after Nash.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #4742 on:** March 29, 2012, 10:56:29 PM »

Just as a general note, I'm going to say the Lakers are as much of a title threat as any team out there imo. It all depends on whether Kobe decides to try to superhero his way there. If he does then they have little chance. If he actually plays smart and lets players like Sessions, Pau, and Bynum do what they can do, I legit think they are dangerous. More so than last year.

Mandark · « **Reply #4743 on:** March 30, 2012, 12:20:08 AM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on March 29, 2012, 10:08:01 PM

Anthony should not be starting for anybody. I wish commentators would STFU about his intangibles and effort and occasionally mention that he is literally the greatest offensive liability in the entire league. As in, no matter how great his D, his offense is SO BAD that he hurts them every time he's on the floor, even in an offense where he barely has to do anything.

Sports commentators tend to harp on guys who do things "that don't show up in the box score." But the stuff in the box score is generally pretty important. It's not like they randomly chose which things should be documented.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #4744 on:** March 30, 2012, 12:27:23 AM »

Quote from: Mandark on March 30, 2012, 12:20:08 AM

Quote from: Cormacaroni on March 29, 2012, 10:08:01 PM
Anthony should not be starting for anybody. I wish commentators would STFU about his intangibles and effort and occasionally mention that he is literally the greatest offensive liability in the entire league. As in, no matter how great his D, his offense is SO BAD that he hurts them every time he's on the floor, even in an offense where he barely has to do anything.

Sports commentators tend to harp on guys who do things "that don't show up in the box score." But the stuff in the box score is generally pretty important. It's not like they randomly chose which things should be documented.

lol AVG and RBI

Mandark · « **Reply #4745 on:** March 30, 2012, 12:32:39 AM »

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/RBI_career.shtml

What a bunch of losers.

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Stoney Mason · « **Reply #4746 on:** March 30, 2012, 12:33:22 AM »

This is exactly what I'm talking about. Kobe having a shitty game and taking too many shots. He is 5 of 17. Let's see how much he forces it in the 4th.

Durant is also having a shitty shooting game but at least he has to shoot the way that team is constructed. Kobe has a lot more options on the inside by comparison.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #4747 on:** March 30, 2012, 12:41:28 AM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on March 29, 2012, 10:08:01 PM

Anthony should not be starting for anybody. I wish commentators would STFU about his intangibles and effort and occasionally mention that he is literally the greatest offensive liability in the entire league. As in, no matter how great his D, his offense is SO BAD that he hurts them every time he's on the floor, even in an offense where he barely has to do anything.

My problem with Anthony isn't so much his offense which is indeed world class bad but rather how undersized he is for the position. He's very active and such but he's constantly getting out rebounded and out massed by other centers. I guess they think they can get away with that because of the makeup of that squad but its a glaring weakness against teams like the Bulls, Lakers, and the Mavericks last year.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #4748 on:** March 30, 2012, 12:54:44 AM »

Sessions is pretty good but he's utterly wasted with Kobe in the lineup.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #4749 on:** March 30, 2012, 01:04:05 AM »

Kobe Bryant 7-25 23 points.

Andrew Bynum 10-15 25 points.

I mean its really that simple. You don't need to be a genius to see what the problem is here.

Kobe is shooting the worse FG% of his career since his 2nd year in the NBA.

Bynum by contrast is averaging a career high in points at 18.2 And he's shooting 58% while doing it.

Yet nobody will say the truth in that organization.

If Kobe is even in the top 5 for MVP voting it will just go to show nba reporters and broadcasters don't know shit about the very sport they cover.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #4750 on:** March 30, 2012, 02:55:26 AM »

I loved how Kobe's response to getting a scoring PG who can also set up the bigs was basically 'Lol, now I can shoot more cuz I don't have to pass'

etiolate · « **Reply #4751 on:** March 30, 2012, 03:18:51 PM »

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Less than a month after Sacramento approved an arena plan to keep the Kings in town, the NBA reportedly had to step in to keep the deal on track.

After the team's owners said they do not believe they should pay their portion -- $3.26 million -- of arena pre-development work, NBA commissioner David Stern told the Sacramento Bee that the league will pay the first installment. Sources told the newspaper that figure is $200,000.

"Following the agreement in principle ... the parties have been attempting to reach agreement on funding the pre-development expenses that must be incurred in order for the project to move forward in a timely fashion," Stern said in an email to the Bee. "Those discussions have stalled, but I have advised Mayor (Kevin) Johnson that the NBA will advance pre-development expenses on behalf of the Kings pending our report to the NBA Board of Governors at its meeting on April 12-13."

Maloofs are embarrassing.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #4752 on:** March 30, 2012, 04:38:31 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on March 30, 2012, 01:04:05 AM

Kobe Bryant 7-25 23 points.

Andrew Bynum 10-15 25 points.

His chucking is worse than Iverson's because the 76ers really didn't have any good secondary options.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #4753 on:** March 30, 2012, 08:08:28 PM »

The NBA is not going to get any more of money for a league pass again. Tired of this message: This game is currently not available in your location.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #4754 on:** March 30, 2012, 08:49:55 PM »

Using International League Pass via a VPN might work? Only blackout games I ever encounter are in the playoffs (a fw are delayed til after the TV showing, not a huge deal)

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #4755 on:** March 30, 2012, 09:00:11 PM »

DJ_Tet · « **Reply #4756 on:** March 30, 2012, 10:32:46 PM »

damn I forgot about Nash's frosted hair

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #4757 on:** March 30, 2012, 10:46:56 PM »

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #4758 on:** March 31, 2012, 10:22:29 AM »

Celtics have really turned around their season after getting off to such a wretched start. They've won 14 out of their last 19 games. First place in their division. If the playoffs started today they would be the 4th seed against a very beatable 5th seeded Pacers.

They aren't any real danger to the elite teams but its nice to see the veterans go out with a nice run instead of whimpering out like it looked early in the season.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #4759 on:** March 31, 2012, 10:24:33 AM »

Quote from: Flannel Boy on March 30, 2012, 10:46:56 PM

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #4760 on:** March 31, 2012, 05:18:08 PM »

"BUT THE LAKERS WOULDN'T EVEN BE NEAR THE PLAYOFF RACE WITHOUT HIM!!!!"

fucking laker fans.

also, I had a dream last night that the finals were the mavs and heat again, and dirk hit the game-winner in game 7. and for some reason, jeff van gundy was blowing spoelstra. I don't understand my dreams.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #4761 on:** March 31, 2012, 05:28:14 PM »

Quote from: AWESOM-O on March 31, 2012, 05:16:08 PM

Kobe is 0/15 against the Hornets right now.

He doesn't deserve to make an All-NBA team, not even 3rd. Fuck leading the league in scoring. He'll be lucky to finish the season shooting 38%.

Kobe is playing with a chip on his shoulder

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #4762 on:** March 31, 2012, 05:41:39 PM »

MVP chants? really

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #4763 on:** March 31, 2012, 05:42:28 PM »

Kobe is so clutch.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #4764 on:** March 31, 2012, 05:45:37 PM »

FU, KOBE

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #4765 on:** March 31, 2012, 05:52:37 PM »

Gasol and Bynum: 15-24
Hero MVP GOAT Bryant: 3-21

He makes 'em when they count.(TM)

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #4766 on:** March 31, 2012, 06:17:07 PM »

I didn't catch the game but it sounds pretty funny.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #4767 on:** March 31, 2012, 06:25:38 PM »

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Jeremy Lin will have surgery for a torn meniscus. Out six weeks

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #4768 on:** March 31, 2012, 06:27:24 PM »

Koba Bryant has now become the Tim Tebow of the NBA.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #4769 on:** March 31, 2012, 06:47:40 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on March 31, 2012, 06:27:24 PM

Koba Bryant has now become the Tim Tebow of the NBA.

Kobe was able to force more scores is Denver.

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TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #4770 on:** March 31, 2012, 06:58:38 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on March 31, 2012, 06:25:38 PM

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Jeremy Lin will have surgery for a torn meniscus. Out six weeks

$:-\$ Jeremy out Lindefinitely

Beezy · « **Reply #4771 on:** March 31, 2012, 07:23:45 PM »

The life of a Knicks fan...

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #4772 on:** April 01, 2012, 02:24:04 AM »

just hope he didn't opt for the quickie meniscus fix like Chris Paul did (cutting it out). I have no idea how severe it is of course....but there seems little point in rushing back to play in May.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #4773 on:** April 01, 2012, 11:45:49 AM »

Games of interest today

Miami at Boston 3:30 est
Chicago at Oklahoma City 1:00 est

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #4774 on:** April 01, 2012, 02:37:46 PM »

OKC crushing chicago.

No rose but still.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #4775 on:** April 01, 2012, 02:41:40 PM »

19 of 29 from the Durant/Westbrook combo is just crazy.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #4776 on:** April 01, 2012, 05:18:05 PM »

What a shock. Miami getting worked on the road.

I'll always ask. How is Spoelstra's job not in trouble? He's by far the worst coach imo of any "contender".

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #4777 on:** April 01, 2012, 06:30:04 PM »

2-11. Like a Bosh

pilonv1 · « **Reply #4778 on:** April 01, 2012, 06:42:46 PM »

fan up miami

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #4779 on:** April 02, 2012, 12:27:27 AM »

Wondering why fans still chant MVP for Kobe at Staples, check out the trash that passes for sports journalism in the Laker fandom:

http://www.ocregister.com/sports/bryant-346596-bynum-game.html

I would like to see how much more insufferable Dave Mcmenamin and Ramona Shelburne could be without a national audience to call out their idiocy.

Luckily, there's finally someone prominent who is willing to step up and tell it like it is:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/kobe-bryant-becoming-big-problem-for-los-angeles-lakers-033012

It's basically what Cormac has been saying for years, "Kobe will age like shit". Too bad Cormac doesn't have a bigger forum than EB.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #4780 on:** April 02, 2012, 12:32:41 AM »

Quote from: Beezy on March 29, 2012, 11:26:07 AM

Quote from: etiolate on March 29, 2012, 04:14:57 AM
man modern basketball shoes are fugly

black people explain the infatuation to me
Sneakerheads aren't infatuated with the basketball sneakers that Smooth Groove posts.

Actually Lebrons are more popular as dress shoes than balling shoes. That's why Nike is releasing upcomping elite and low-top versions in addition to the endless colorways for the L9. Personally, I like playing in them. They perform almost as well as the Hyperdunks but are much safer for the ankles, imo.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #4781 on:** April 02, 2012, 04:05:06 AM »

Quote from: Smooth Groove on April 02, 2012, 12:27:27 AM

Wondering why fans still chant MVP for Kobe at Staples, check out the trash that passes for sports journalism in the Laker fandom:

http://www.ocregister.com/sports/bryant-346596-bynum-game.html

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Yes, yes and yes: The rest of the NBA should also be scared to death that Andrew Bynum is becoming more and more like Kobe Bryant.

And especially hotel employees.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #4782 on:** April 02, 2012, 08:20:46 AM »

goddamn, LeBron is trying to give away his MVP. He has sucked donkey dick since his Not-a-Concussion, and KD is flipping out like a ninja, killing your whole town. I was ready for a defensive battle with the Bulls (who are the 3rd best team in the league when playing without Rose, so forget about anyone else for COTY again...) but they got steamrolled. Meanwhile LeBron puts up how worst-ever plus-minus, a staggering -30. Ooooooouuuuuch.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #4783 on:** April 02, 2012, 10:02:59 AM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on April 02, 2012, 08:20:46 AM

goddamn, LeBron is trying to give away his MVP. He has sucked donkey dick since his Not-a-Concussion, and KD is flipping out like a ninja, killing your whole town. I was ready for a defensive battle with the Bulls (who are the 3rd best team in the league when playing without Rose, so forget about anyone else for COTY again...) but they got steamrolled. Meanwhile LeBron puts up how worst-ever plus-minus, a staggering -30. Ooooooouuuuuch.

Time for my monthly heat rant!

After watching so many heat games the thing that always amazes me after two years is how bad that team can look in a half court offense and how despite the statistics saying they are a good defensive team, they almost always get beat by the same offensive philosophies and rarely adjust to it in games.

They look great when the other team is making mistakes and they get out on the break and score easy points. They look very average often in situations outside of that.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #4784 on:** April 02, 2012, 10:31:25 AM »

Agree with all that. Also, KG made Bosh his bitch again. I mean, LeBron struggled but at least put up some numbers. All Star Chris Bosh was held to 4 pts by a grandad who may well retire next year.

Would like to see the Cs get one more shot at the Heat in the playoffs before KABOOM. They won't win but they should be able to bloody their noses if there are no more catastrophic injuries like Rondo's elbow.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #4785 on:** April 02, 2012, 11:28:37 AM »

I would have traded Bosh for a legit point guard before the trade deadline. I don't hate the dude. And he plays well enough. He's just not the piece that team needs imo.

Norris Cole is a decent enough young player but he didn't provide the true lift at the position I was hoping for.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #4786 on:** April 03, 2012, 11:36:26 AM »

In honor of Reggie getting inducted into the HOF.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #4787 on:** April 03, 2012, 08:48:44 PM »

Looking at the line-up of games today...only 2 out of 8 feature teams who are horrible and or blatantly tanking, ugh

Philly - Heat on now. Not a great team for the Heat to break out of their slump on. Sixers are usually fun to watch though.

etiolate · « **Reply #4788 on:** April 04, 2012, 01:39:51 AM »

Cousins with 41 & 12 tonight. It's too bad Westphal poisoned the PR on him at the start of the season or he'd be getting a lot more attention.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #4789 on:** April 04, 2012, 01:49:02 AM »

LA showdown tomorrow with Clips having "homecourt". Who you got?

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #4790 on:** April 04, 2012, 08:13:43 PM »

crazy line-up of games today - i want to watch Heat - Thunder, Spurs - Celtics, Clips - Lakers, Grizz - Mavs...

...and of course they'll likely all turn out to be shit while the Bobcats edge the Hawks in a 3OT thrilla

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #4791 on:** April 04, 2012, 08:19:24 PM »

http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/7774255/mohammad-el-akkari-scores-113-points-fiba-asia-game

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #4792 on:** April 04, 2012, 08:25:18 PM »

hmm, the Heat have officially benched Joel Anthony in favor of Turiaf. A bit late but a sensible move. Turiaf is pretty weaksauce but usually hovers around league-average PER etc, doesn't take bad shots, hustles. Kinda like benching Bibby - far too late, the replacement is nothing to get excited about, but still they had to do it.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #4793 on:** April 04, 2012, 08:55:53 PM »

Wade has been the best Lebron stopper this season. Everytime he's back, Bron's numbers go way down. My workout partner and I both thought that the Heat should have traded Wade for Dwight before the season. Yesterday, Colin Cowherd also said that the Heat should trade Wade if the Heat doesn't win this year.

I'm a fan of Wade too but I just think he is too proud to be the Pippen to Bron's MJ, which is the way it should be. Now the Wade for Dwight trade probably won't go down because Dwight looks like he might stay and Wade looks like he's lost a step.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #4794 on:** April 04, 2012, 08:57:34 PM »

Turiaf is a great hustle guy off the bench but he chases too many blocks and ends up out of position for rebounds and puts more pressure on other defenders.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #4795 on:** April 04, 2012, 09:08:58 PM »

this game is sick. Bron and Chalmers hitting threes all day

naff · « **Reply #4796 on:** April 04, 2012, 09:32:03 PM »

Love Magic Johnsons opinion on Thunders flagrant fouls being a good thing, it definitely woke the Heat up and got some emotion into the game. One of the best 1st halves I've seen this season

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #4797 on:** April 04, 2012, 09:33:55 PM »

Bron was unstoppable at the end of the half. Played great defense, hit several threes, and closed the half with a clutch jumper. Love me some unstoppable Bron Bron

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #4798 on:** April 04, 2012, 09:34:39 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on April 04, 2012, 09:33:55 PM

Bron was unstoppable at the end of the half. Played great defense, hit several threes, and closed the half with a clutch jumper. Love me some unstoppable Bron Bron

Will he be as unstoppable at end of the second half. :lenowned

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #4799 on:** April 04, 2012, 09:41:17 PM »

probably not

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