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Great Rumbler · « **Reply #5220 on:** April 30, 2012, 10:33:44 AM »

Grizz

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #5221 on:** April 30, 2012, 10:35:29 AM »

Unreal

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #5222 on:** April 30, 2012, 11:56:02 AM »

just got done watching the last of the games.

Clippers - Grizz was insane. I watched the first 2 quarters earlier on today but gave up on it. Eventually came back to it after seeing the Cs get within 4 before imploding and losing Rondo for at least a game. Fuckity - fuck. They didn't look remotely like themselves all game. Anyway, they can still win the series - in fact I expect them to do so.

The Spurs look REALLY good.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5223 on:** April 30, 2012, 02:59:30 PM »

Old but still

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5224 on:** April 30, 2012, 05:23:50 PM »

Quote

Boston Celtics point guard Rajon Rondo has been suspended for Game 2 of an Eastern Conference quarterfinal series against the Atlanta Hawks for making contact with a game official, NBA executive vice president of basketball operations Stu Jackson announced Monday.

Rondo chest-bumped referee Marc Davis with 41 seconds remaining in Sunday's 83-74 Game 1 loss at Philips Arena, earning his second technical and automatic ejection. Rondo, who earned both technicals while vehemently protesting a foul call against teammate Brandon Bass, said after the game that the bump was unintentional, but the league apparently viewed it as otherwise.

Lame. I thought it was kinda accidental.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #5225 on:** April 30, 2012, 05:30:23 PM »

Bullshit. He tripped a little bit, but anyone who trips at least tries to brace themselves. He fully went into the ref, still looking salty as fuck. He deserves it.

Ganhyun · « **Reply #5226 on:** April 30, 2012, 06:19:56 PM »

If it can let the Hawks get a 2-0 lead over Boston I won't complain at all.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #5227 on:** April 30, 2012, 07:21:00 PM »

Knicks-Heat Game 2 just started.

Lebron playing good D, Wade hitting pretty much everything he's getting fed. Bosh 2-2 as well.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5228 on:** April 30, 2012, 07:26:37 PM »

The Knicks are just the kind of team that make Miami look better than they are.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #5229 on:** April 30, 2012, 07:29:16 PM »

you're such a self-hating Heat fan

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #5230 on:** April 30, 2012, 08:16:03 PM »

Knicks looking pretty good, keeping the game close.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #5231 on:** April 30, 2012, 08:18:32 PM »

Wade chucking Bibby's shoe

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #5232 on:** April 30, 2012, 08:27:52 PM »

yeah, people on twitter and of gaf were screaming for a technical for that. come the fuck on

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #5233 on:** April 30, 2012, 08:42:41 PM »

I kinda hope that the Heat win it all, so that I don't have to hear Collin Cowherd complaining about Lebron haters for another year.

Beezy · « **Reply #5234 on:** April 30, 2012, 10:59:07 PM »

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--amar-e-stoudemire-cuts-hand-punching-wall.html

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MIAMI – Amar'e Stoudemire cut his left hand while punching a fire extinguisher casing in the locker room after the New York Knicks' loss to the Miami Heat Monday night, sources told Yahoo! Sports.

Paramedics and the Knicks' and Heat's team doctors were immediately called to the locker room. Blood was visible on the carpet when the locker-room doors opened for reporters. Stoudemire received stitches and eventually left the arena with his left hand bandaged and his arm in a sling.

The Knicks said Stoudemire's status for Thursday's Game 3 is unknown.

Knicks coach Mike Woodson and general manager Glen Grunwald confirmed Stoudemire cut his hand, but didn't say how. Sources told Y! Sports the injury happened when Stoudemire punched the extinguisher case in frustration.

"Man, I don't know what happened," Carmelo Anthony said. "I didn't know what was going on."

...

We'll probably do better without him if he can't play on Thursday. -__-

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #5235 on:** April 30, 2012, 11:23:37 PM »

Quote from: Beezy on April 30, 2012, 10:59:07 PM

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--amar-e-stoudemire-cuts-hand-punching-wall.html

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MIAMI – Amar'e Stoudemire cut his left hand while punching a fire extinguisher casing in the locker room after the New York Knicks' loss to the Miami Heat Monday night, sources told Yahoo! Sports.

Paramedics and the Knicks' and Heat's team doctors were immediately called to the locker room. Blood was visible on the carpet when the locker-room doors opened for reporters. Stoudemire received stitches and eventually left the arena with his left hand bandaged and his arm in a sling.

The Knicks said Stoudemire's status for Thursday's Game 3 is unknown.

Knicks coach Mike Woodson and general manager Glen Grunwald confirmed Stoudemire cut his hand, but didn't say how. Sources told Y! Sports the injury happened when Stoudemire punched the extinguisher case in frustration.

"Man, I don't know what happened," Carmelo Anthony said. "I didn't know what was going on."

...

We'll probably do better without him if he can't play on Thursday. -__-

Like a Bosh

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #5236 on:** May 01, 2012, 12:25:42 AM »

amazing game yet again for dallas and OKC. surprisingly, Fisher and Vince Carter are having good games. Yes, I said that.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5237 on:** May 01, 2012, 12:59:24 AM »

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #5238 on:** May 01, 2012, 04:00:23 AM »

Great game for the Thunder, but man, did Dallas shoot themselves in the foot with crappy fouls at the end. It feels like this series should be tied 1-1.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #5239 on:** May 01, 2012, 09:15:19 AM »

Durant can't shoot, yet the Thunder are up 2-0. Thanks a lot Carter, Kidd and Haywood. Though, to be fair, they were all below average players in the regular season (PERs of 13.5, 13.1, and 13.0, respectively).

Free Brandan Wright.

edit: Carter's PER in the playoffs is 5.4.

2nd edit:
1    Russell Westbrook    25.9
2    James Harden    24.6
3    Serge Ibaka    22.3
4    Kevin Durant    15.2

3rd edit:
1    Dirk Nowitzki    23.5

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #5240 on:** May 01, 2012, 09:17:15 AM »

The Knicks and Mavs are both seven seeds, they're both down 2-0, but the Knicks have lost their two games by a combined 43 points while the Mavs have lost by a combined four points.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #5241 on:** May 01, 2012, 09:30:32 AM »

Amare, this is why you go after stationary bicycles.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #5242 on:** May 01, 2012, 06:14:45 PM »

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #5243 on:** May 01, 2012, 07:23:59 PM »

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #5244 on:** May 01, 2012, 08:52:43 PM »

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5245 on:** May 01, 2012, 09:56:38 PM »

Chicago is so screwed. They are making the 76ers look great.

Beezy · « **Reply #5246 on:** May 01, 2012, 10:21:30 PM »

Rose is probably up there crying in that box right now.

It would've been crazy if Knicks tanked for Chicago. Just to see Rose and Shump go down with the same injury in the same game.

Momo · « **Reply #5247 on:** May 03, 2012, 01:17:02 AM »

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #5248 on:** May 03, 2012, 10:01:30 PM »

The Mavs are horrible

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #5249 on:** May 03, 2012, 10:06:23 PM »

stop trying to give haywood the ball

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #5250 on:** May 03, 2012, 10:46:08 PM »

and way to catch a ball, marion.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #5251 on:** May 03, 2012, 11:53:10 PM »

Time to trade Dirk and rebuild

ferrarimanf355 · « **Reply #5252 on:** May 04, 2012, 12:10:35 AM »

Quote from: BrandNew on May 01, 2012, 06:14:45 PM

(Image removed from quote.)

This thread can't get any better.

LET'S GO HEAT!

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #5253 on:** May 04, 2012, 12:51:56 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on May 03, 2012, 11:53:10 PM

Time to trade Dirk and rebuild

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5254 on:** May 04, 2012, 12:11:53 PM »

I don't think there is any reason to be especially mad or disappointed at the current incarnation of the mavs. The time to be upset was in the pre-season when they let Chandler go. That was the defining sign that they wouldn't compete for a title this year. Once that happened the players and coaches are just playing with the cards they had been dealt.

My only real impression of the playoffs so far is that the Spurs seem to be a lot better than I thought they were. They look fucking great on offense. The Heat and Lakers look great but its kinda meaningless because they are both playing shitty teams they match up extremely well against.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #5255 on:** May 04, 2012, 12:14:32 PM »

Liked what both the Thunder and the Heat did today but unless someone convincingly punches the Spurs in the mouth, they're my pick to win it all. They were on cruise control against the Jazz in game 2 and still just eviscerated a team that in theory matched up fairly well against them (being somewhat of a kid brother to them).

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #5256 on:** May 04, 2012, 12:16:04 PM »

whoa, Stoney just posted his bit on the Spurs about a second before I did. Great minds.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5257 on:** May 04, 2012, 12:20:15 PM »

Yeah the Spurs just look so crisp on offense. Its like they never take a bad shot. When you watch the Heat and the Lakers you still see lots of bad shots or bad spots of execution on offense. But every shot the Spurs are taking is a reasonable well executed shot for the situation. The ball movement is crisp and always seems to find the open man. Tim Duncan looks more rejuventated. Tony Parker is slicing and dicing the defense and either getting a good shot for himself or someone else. I was really impressed. It was quality basketball to watch.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5258 on:** May 04, 2012, 12:24:45 PM »

Quote from: Flannel Boy on May 04, 2012, 12:51:56 AM

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on May 03, 2012, 11:53:10 PM
Time to trade Dirk and rebuild

Brehvolution · « **Reply #5259 on:** May 04, 2012, 12:38:12 PM »

<3 Cuban

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5260 on:** May 04, 2012, 12:44:15 PM »

Poor guy. I actually like Paul Silas.

Beezy · « **Reply #5261 on:** May 04, 2012, 01:23:59 PM »

Yeah, the Spurs have looked pretty great so far. And healthy. I don't see the Grizzlies pulling off an upset against them again like last year.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #5262 on:** May 04, 2012, 02:10:28 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on May 04, 2012, 12:11:53 PM

I don't think there is any reason to be especially mad or disappointed at the current incarnation of the mavs. The time to be upset was in the pre-season when they let Chandler go. That was the defining sign that they wouldn't compete for a title this year. Once that happened the players and coaches are just playing with the cards they had been dealt.

Pretty much

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #5263 on:** May 04, 2012, 02:10:46 PM »

ESPN Stats & Info ‏ @ESPNStatsInfo
Carmelo Anthony has the worst win% of ANY player that EVER played at least 50 playoff games (16-36, .308). Confirmed by Elias Sports Bureau.

Unfair to put that record all on him, but his .415 FG% is :/
Overall, his career playoff stats aren't that much worse than his regular season numbers (20.4 PER dropping to 19.2).

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #5264 on:** May 04, 2012, 03:23:57 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on May 04, 2012, 12:20:15 PM

Yeah the Spurs just look so crisp on offense. Its like they never take a bad shot. When you watch the Heat and the Lakers you still see lots of bad shots or bad spots of execution on offense. But every shot the Spurs are taking is a reasonable well executed shot for the situation. The ball movement is crisp and always seems to find the open man. Tim Duncan looks more rejuventated. Tony Parker is slicing and dicing the defense and either getting a good shot for himself or someone else. I was really impressed. It was quality basketball to watch.

You didn't even mention Manu, the most entertaining player alive now that he's healthy again. Manu and Parker is the best and most fun backcourt tandem in the league but everyone still thinks of them as a grind-it-out team like the Pistons for whatever reason.

What's really impressive to me is that they have completely rehabilitated Gerald Green (who looks worthy of a lottery pick at last) and get amazing performances and consistency out of all these guys that no-one ever expected anything from (Mr No-ACLs, Gary Neal, Kawhi Leonard, Matt Bonner...) until they got to the Spurs. Part of it is their 3pt shooting - every year it gets more important, it seems. But they have plenty of paint scoring for when that dries up too. Whether those guys are actually good or are just filling a niche competently is kind of a moot point. Richard Jefferson is one of the few players to ever buck that trend (I think - haven't checked his pre- and post-trade numbers or anything) but they cut bait on him quite nicely...

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5265 on:** May 04, 2012, 10:49:31 PM »

That Celtics Hawks game was UGLY

And Chicago is so done.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #5266 on:** May 04, 2012, 11:45:35 PM »

Denver doing what Dallas couldn't.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #5267 on:** May 05, 2012, 12:13:59 AM »

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5268 on:** May 05, 2012, 11:58:34 AM »

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Alone on a podium late Thursday night, Carmelo Anthony wrapped himself in comfortable catchphrases and verbal deflections. The Miami Heat had not shut him down. He was simply “missing shots that I normally make.”

The Knicks, down three games to none in the playoffs, were not defeated. “Our confidence is high.”

Anthony’s tone was unwavering, his faith absolute. This is how elite talent speaks, with a self-belief that borders on the absurd and occasionally veers into self-delusion.

The Knicks, who have been outscored by 60 points in the series, are not going to be the first N.B.A. team (out of 100) to overcome a 3-0 deficit. Anthony, who is shooting .344 and has twice as many turnovers (12) as assists (6), is not going to lead them back.

The Knicks will soon exit the postseason, their 12th straight year without winning a series. Their 13-game losing streak is the longest in playoff history.

“I wasn’t here for them losses,” Anthony bristled this week, though he has now been here for seven.

His dismissiveness misses the larger point: the Knicks traded a bounty for Anthony — four starters and three draft picks — to end their decade-long drought, to make May and June matter again at Madison Square Garden. Anthony demanded a trade on the premise that he, along with Amar’e Stoudemire, would turn the Knicks into a reasonable facsimile of the LeBron James-Dwyane Wade Heat.

So far, the Anthony-Stoudemire Knicks have accomplished no more than the Stephon Marbury-Tim Thomas Knicks (swept in 2004).

They have had their misfortune — injuries to Stoudemire and Chauncey Billups in 2011, injuries to Stoudemire and Iman Shumpert in 2012 — but great teams find a way to win. And when they fail, the great players absorb, reflect and rededicate themselves.

Anthony is not the reflective type. He has rarely taken responsibility for his team’s failures, preferring to shift blame toward injuries, coaches or the playbook. But the N.B.A. is a star-driven league, and Anthony — a star by reputation, if not achievement — must eventually confront his own résumé.

In nine postseasons, Anthony is 16-36 — the worst record among active players with at least 50 playoff games. He has won a first-round series only once, in 2009. Since then, he has lost 11 of 13 playoff games. If the Knicks lose Sunday, it will be Anthony’s third time getting swept in five years.

Anthony shot .375 against the Boston Celtics in last year’s sweep. He is shooting miserably against Miami, but he is still taking 30 percent of his team’s field-goal attempts while the offense stagnates and the Heat loads up its defense.

Playing Meloball — in which Anthony dominates the offense, usually in ball-pounding isolation sets — got the Knicks through a critical late-season period, without Stoudemire and Jeremy Lin, with a 9-4 record. Anthony was brilliant in that stretch, shooting high percentages and collecting 30-point games while the defense did the rest.

But we are now seeing the limitations of Meloball. It can win 45 to 50 games (as it did in Denver), but it cannot beat a team as talented and disciplined as the Heat.

Stoudemire hardly saw the ball in the first two games of this series. The Knicks’ 3-point shooters are not getting open looks, because the ball is not moving.

Anthony is a great scorer. He is not yet a great player, because he does not consistently elevate his teammates. He averaged a modest 3.6 assists per game this season, and has a career average of 3.1.

By contrast, consider his close friends from the 2003 draft class: Wade has averaged 6.2 assists per game for his career, and James 6.9. Both Miami stars can control a game through their playmaking alone. The same goes for Kobe Bryant (4.7 career average), when the mood strikes.

In Cleveland, James led his teams deep into the playoffs (including the 2007 finals) despite a lackluster lineup, proving that a selfless star is infinitely more valuable than a single-minded gunner.

Kurt Rambis — a former teammate of Magic Johnson and a former coach of Bryant — put it best in an ESPN podcast, saying of Anthony: “One of the things he has to learn is how to involve his teammates more. There’s a lot more to winning ballgames than just scoring points.”

George Karl and Mike D’Antoni tried in vain to sell Anthony on this virtue, costing Karl years of aggravation and D’Antoni his job.

Initially, D’Antoni asked Anthony to play point forward, giving him the ball control he desired, but with equal responsibility for scoring and playmaking. Anthony accepted the role grudgingly and played it poorly.

Once Lin emerged, the Knicks’ playmaking needs were resolved. But Anthony was uncomfortable in a point guard-dominated offense and admitted as much a week before D’Antoni resigned.

So far, the only offense that seems to please Anthony is one where everyone else passes and he shoots.

“Melo is going to have to raise his game,” Coach Mike Woodson said Friday, suggesting that Anthony needs some growth to escape his personal playoff rut. “He’s got to change that.”

Woodson, an interim coach with no leverage, has necessarily catered to Anthony’s desires. With a little job security, he might not be so forgiving. Phil Jackson, if he were enticed by the Garden’s riches, would certainly demand a more team-oriented game.

Anthony will be 28 this month — old enough to be considered a veteran, young enough to learn. The Knicks will never be an elite team until he matures. And he will never truly be a star until he evolves.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/05/sports/basketball/knicks-carmelo-anthony-has-poor-playoff-track-record.html?_r=3&ref=howardbeck

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5269 on:** May 05, 2012, 04:53:34 PM »

Pacers Magic has been a surprisingly entertaining game today.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #5270 on:** May 05, 2012, 05:01:05 PM »

What a stupid foul on Nelson there. Gotta be smarter than that

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5271 on:** May 05, 2012, 07:25:09 PM »

Great pass there from Paul to Blake.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #5272 on:** May 05, 2012, 07:40:37 PM »

damn, this game is fucking cray

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5273 on:** May 05, 2012, 07:42:14 PM »

Crazy game. Clips take it.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #5274 on:** May 05, 2012, 09:10:18 PM »

Hey, it's the 2011 version of Dirk.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #5275 on:** May 05, 2012, 09:17:36 PM »

Webber talkin' tough.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #5276 on:** May 05, 2012, 09:46:38 PM »

Harden owning bitches

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #5277 on:** May 05, 2012, 09:47:25 PM »

how is this a 3 point game. fuck

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5278 on:** May 05, 2012, 09:54:07 PM »

Great game

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #5279 on:** May 05, 2012, 09:57:21 PM »

Sucks now.

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