Author Topic: The NBA thread (Read 1519484 times)

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #7620 on:** January 09, 2013, 03:00:54 PM »

It's nothing new. There were legit arena deals before Bennet moved the Sonics to OKC. The Muckleshoot Indian Tribe was willing to front the cash for a new arena down in South King County, but he flat out ignored them saying there were no valid options and he had to move the team.

This just makes it "How are we assured you're not going to fuck us over like the last guy did?"

And in other news, why won't Stern die?

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #7621 on:** January 09, 2013, 03:27:00 PM »

lol at the lakers making the playoffs. they're toast.

etiolate · « **Reply #7622 on:** January 09, 2013, 03:51:53 PM »

The Lakers got the wrong coach/system for their roster.

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #7623 on:** January 09, 2013, 03:53:14 PM »

Assuming you need 46 wins to get in (like last year), the Lakers would need to go 31-17 the rest of the way.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #7624 on:** January 09, 2013, 03:58:20 PM »

Quote from: ToxicAdam on January 09, 2013, 03:53:14 PM

Assuming you need 46 wins to get in (like last year), the Lakers would need to go 31-17 the rest of the way.

rip Laker's chances. Too many injuries. At least Kobe will get his!

etiolate · « **Reply #7625 on:** January 09, 2013, 04:10:52 PM »

Also, expect all the team swapping and name changing and work stoppages to kill brand and team identity with the NBA the same way it did with the NHL.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #7626 on:** January 09, 2013, 04:24:16 PM »

don't tell me how to read

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #7627 on:** January 09, 2013, 04:54:13 PM »

Quote from: Exodust SoulBurn on January 09, 2013, 04:27:34 PM

Not my fault that us foreigners tend to be better at grammar than you 'Muricans.

"Foreigners" is the subject of the sentence, and the pronoun before it simply renames it. As such, you should have used "we" instead of "us."

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #7628 on:** January 09, 2013, 04:57:56 PM »

shut up you canuck

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #7629 on:** January 09, 2013, 04:59:14 PM »

This is what I get for defending Canada's underpants.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #7630 on:** January 09, 2013, 05:58:40 PM »

I like the Kings deal solely because it annoys etoilet. Is that wrong? Probably.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #7631 on:** January 09, 2013, 06:00:23 PM »

Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on January 09, 2013, 05:58:40 PM

I like the Kings deal solely because it annoys etoilet. Is that wrong? Probably.

Haha, but I was thinking it might make me etoilet even more insufferable in this thread. :'(

etiolate · « **Reply #7632 on:** January 09, 2013, 06:05:18 PM »

I will torment you all until Stern makes amends for the WC Finals debauchery.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #7633 on:** January 09, 2013, 06:07:07 PM »

You're worse than Bret Hart fans.

Steve Contra · « **Reply #7634 on:** January 09, 2013, 06:51:05 PM »

The Kings leaving Sacramento is a shitty thing for the Maloofs to do, but it's not going to do a thing to the league, because no one cares outside of Sacramento.

etiolate · « **Reply #7635 on:** January 09, 2013, 06:51:05 PM »

Kevin Johnson news conference has no real news except that he takes this as a sign that the Maloofs are finally willing to sell and that he's looking to assemble buyers of the team that would keep the Kings in Sacramento.

So this sale could get delayed and then get turned into a bidding war due to some sort of waffling with the Maloofs and KJ trying to power up another offer.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #7636 on:** January 09, 2013, 07:11:16 PM »

LeBron cannot foul anyone just like God cannot do evil.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #7637 on:** January 09, 2013, 07:11:30 PM »

Lakers at Spurs tonight. Let the good times roll.

Lakers have become must see TV for me.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #7638 on:** January 09, 2013, 07:52:06 PM »

Quote from: etiolate on January 09, 2013, 06:05:18 PM

I will torment you all until Stern makes amends for the WC Finals debauchery.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #7639 on:** January 09, 2013, 08:01:27 PM »

Quote from: etiolate on January 09, 2013, 06:05:18 PM

I will torment you all until Stern makes amends for the WC Finals debauchery.

etiolate · « **Reply #7640 on:** January 09, 2013, 08:08:34 PM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on January 09, 2013, 07:52:06 PM

Quote from: etiolate on January 09, 2013, 06:05:18 PM
I will torment you all until Stern makes amends for the WC Finals debauchery.

(Image removed from quote.)

Eh I think it does

Steve Contra · « **Reply #7641 on:** January 09, 2013, 08:13:37 PM »

No, it doesn't. I'm guessing you meant "debacle"

Definition of DEBAUCHERY

1
a : extreme indulgence in sensuality
b plural : orgies

etiolate · « **Reply #7642 on:** January 09, 2013, 08:15:34 PM »

debauchery
de·bauch·er·y [dih-baw-chuh-ree] Show IPA
noun, plural de·bauch·er·ies.
1.
excessive indulgence in sensual pleasures; intemperance.
2.
Archaic. seduction from duty, allegiance, or virtue.

Clearly you don't understand what Stern gets off to.

Mandark · « **Reply #7643 on:** January 09, 2013, 08:17:46 PM »

Quote from: etiolate on January 09, 2013, 08:15:34 PM

Clearly you don't understand what Stern gets off to.

That being bitter, bitter tears.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #7644 on:** January 09, 2013, 08:37:02 PM »

Quote from: etiolate on January 09, 2013, 04:10:52 PM

Also, expect all the team swapping and name changing and work stoppages to kill brand and team identity with the NBA the same way it did with the NHL.

How do you explain the US' apathy towards the NHL before those problems?

Even during the lockout, Ballislife clips were getting more views than NHL games ever did.

etiolate · « **Reply #7645 on:** January 09, 2013, 08:41:39 PM »

what

Not sure all those things we'd be talking about are relevant to each other.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #7646 on:** January 09, 2013, 08:45:32 PM »

The NHL has never been popular in the US. The thing that has hurt it the most is lack of ESPN coverage. The lockout that wiped an entire season only led to increase revenue, especially in Canada.

The NFL had a few work stoppages and then had five relocations of franchises, including actual important franchises unlike the Kings, in the span of about a decade--yet it only became more popular.

etiolate · « **Reply #7647 on:** January 09, 2013, 08:51:34 PM »

I'm pretty sure the fact that franchises changed cities and names and that lineages and histories of teams got lost along the way hurt the NHL. Nowhere did I say that was solely to blame for the NHL's problems as some of you are about to be dumb enough to imply.

Mandark · « **Reply #7648 on:** January 09, 2013, 08:59:48 PM »

No, you said that plus work stoppages "kill[ed] the brand" for the NHL. But Malek's right on both counts: it was never that popular in the US, and the league's failure to get ESPN on board easily dwarfs those or any other problems with how they've run the league.

Anyways, the Kings already played in then abandoned Rochester, Cincinnati, and Kansas City. If leaving those cities didn't bring the association crumbling down I'm not sure why ditching Sacramento would.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #7649 on:** January 09, 2013, 09:02:36 PM »

During the last sixteen years, the NHL has had one franchise move (unless you want to count the Islanders upcoming move from one part of the NY area to another part of the NY area), and the franchise that moved didn't even exist until 1999--and most of the city, Atlanta, probably never knew it existed in the first place.

Unlike in the NFL, no historic NHL franchise has moved since the 40s. The Leafs, Canadiens, Rangers, Bruins, Red Wings, Blackhhawks have all remained in their respective cities. Newer franchises with good history like the Blues, Flyers, Islanders, Sabres, Penguins, Canucks, Flames, and Oilers have never moved.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #7650 on:** January 09, 2013, 09:07:02 PM »

this thread is a debauchery

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #7651 on:** January 09, 2013, 09:07:45 PM »

The NBA or NHL would be hurt if popular franchises with wide-support like the Lakers, Knicks, Celtics, Rangers, Bruins, or Red Wings moved. But, because of the lack of NFL-type revenue sharing, that's not going to happen. The local TV rights are too lucrative.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #7652 on:** January 09, 2013, 09:08:23 PM »

the Rockets put up 37pts in the 3rd last night, so far tonight they've put up 36pts in two quarters

pilonv1 · « **Reply #7653 on:** January 09, 2013, 09:12:44 PM »

Quote from: AWESOM-O on January 09, 2013, 09:11:14 PM

Quote from: Cormacaroni on January 09, 2013, 09:08:23 PM
the Rockets put up 37pts in the 3rd last night, so far tonight they've put up 36pts in two quarters

Can't play the Lakers every night.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #7654 on:** January 09, 2013, 09:13:59 PM »

Beezy · « **Reply #7655 on:** January 09, 2013, 11:01:08 PM »

Why?

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #7656 on:** January 09, 2013, 11:02:43 PM »

Amazing

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #7657 on:** January 09, 2013, 11:54:53 PM »

lakerseason.gif

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #7658 on:** January 10, 2013, 12:08:46 AM »

You're less of a Laker fan and more of a Kobe fan. Konex 2.0.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #7659 on:** January 10, 2013, 12:52:22 AM »

You were a fan of the Lakers before you were a fan of Kobe Bryant and young girls in England were fans of Take That before they were fans of Robbie Williams. What's my point? I'm sleepy.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #7660 on:** January 10, 2013, 04:21:38 PM »

Greg Oden wants to return, and the Heat are interested

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #7661 on:** January 10, 2013, 05:02:40 PM »

So apparently the Maloof's want a say in the ownership of the Kings.

Bat. shit. crazy.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #7662 on:** January 10, 2013, 05:40:13 PM »

fucking lol

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #7663 on:** January 10, 2013, 07:50:33 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on January 10, 2013, 04:21:38 PM

Greg Oden wants to return, and the Heat are interested

Steve Kerr was on Bill Simmons' podcast recently and he said he would sign Oden 'in a heartbeat' if he was still a GM. The odds are low but so would be the price - good bet. And at least you know he won't destroy the locker room and make a mess in the media like Iverson.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #7664 on:** January 10, 2013, 08:17:33 PM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on January 10, 2013, 07:50:33 PM

Quote from: BrandNew on January 10, 2013, 04:21:38 PM
Greg Oden wants to return, and the Heat are interested

Steve Kerr was on Bill Simmons' podcast recently and he said he would sign Oden 'in a heartbeat' if he was still a GM. The odds are low but so would be the price - good bet. And at least you know he won't destroy the locker room and make a mess in the media like Iverson.

And it's not like the player taking up 13th roster spot is any good or getting any PT.

Bacchus7 · « **Reply #7665 on:** January 10, 2013, 08:18:04 PM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on January 10, 2013, 07:50:33 PM

Quote from: BrandNew on January 10, 2013, 04:21:38 PM
Greg Oden wants to return, and the Heat are interested

Steve Kerr was on Bill Simmons' podcast recently and he said he would sign Oden 'in a heartbeat' if he was still a GM. The odds are low but so would be the price - good bet. And at least you know he won't destroy the locker room and make a mess in the media like Iverson.

Low.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #7666 on:** January 10, 2013, 08:22:30 PM »

Can't hurt but Riles is so conservative. He wouldn't even take a late 1st round risk on Perry Jones.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #7667 on:** January 10, 2013, 08:24:15 PM »

Quote from: Flannel Boy on January 10, 2013, 08:17:33 PM

Quote from: Cormacaroni on January 10, 2013, 07:50:33 PM
Quote from: BrandNew on January 10, 2013, 04:21:38 PM
Greg Oden wants to return, and the Heat are interested

Steve Kerr was on Bill Simmons' podcast recently and he said he would sign Oden 'in a heartbeat' if he was still a GM. The odds are low but so would be the price - good bet. And at least you know he won't destroy the locker room and make a mess in the media like Iverson.
And it's not like the player taking up 13th roster spot is any good or getting any PT.

Absolutely. Of course, if we are talking a contract like the one Brandon Roy signed with the T-Wolves, it's maybe a different story. I'm assuming a minimal outlay with team options up the wazoo. A few bargain-basement players that outperform their contracts can really give a boost, like Blatche is doing, or even Sheed/Kurt Thomas/Camby in NY.

Then again, Eddy Curry barely played for the Heat despite seemingly being in shape so who knows.

etiolate · « **Reply #7668 on:** January 10, 2013, 11:17:27 PM »

Quote from: Mr. Gundam on January 10, 2013, 05:02:40 PM

So apparently the Maloof's want a say in the ownership of the Kings.

Bat. shit. crazy.

Welcome to our world.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #7669 on:** January 10, 2013, 11:24:04 PM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on January 10, 2013, 07:50:33 PM

Quote from: BrandNew on January 10, 2013, 04:21:38 PM
Greg Oden wants to return, and the Heat are interested

Steve Kerr was on Bill Simmons' podcast recently and he said he would sign Oden 'in a heartbeat' if he was still a GM. The odds are low but so would be the price - good bet. And at least you know he won't destroy the locker room and make a mess in the media like Iverson.

It's a low risk/high reward move that I'd do 100/100 times if I was a GM, depending on the contract size.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #7670 on:** January 10, 2013, 11:27:43 PM »

Let's not forget that Robert Sacre is starting for the Lakers right now. I mean, Oden could literally be on crutches and outperform that guy

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #7671 on:** January 10, 2013, 11:52:51 PM »

Didn't think it was possible but Austin Rivers has serious competition for bust of the Rivers family

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #7672 on:** January 11, 2013, 12:18:29 AM »

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #7673 on:** January 11, 2013, 12:23:27 AM »

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #7674 on:** January 11, 2013, 12:37:11 AM »

In a pickup game today, we kept telling this ballhog on our team to finish it. It took him 6 tries but he finally got it. Everyone laughed that he was clutch, just like the Mamba.

etiolate · « **Reply #7675 on:** January 11, 2013, 12:52:26 AM »

good old hardcore nba ref bullshit in this mavs-kings game

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #7676 on:** January 11, 2013, 03:15:59 AM »

Fucking heat lose again. $:-\$

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #7677 on:** January 11, 2013, 03:48:44 AM »

I thought they had it wrapped up too, 'til Matthews hit those two 3s. oh well, keep on cruisin' i guess

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #7678 on:** January 11, 2013, 01:36:42 PM »

That was some entertaining basketball on last night. Didn't give a shit about any of those teams, but still watched most all of it.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #7679 on:** January 11, 2013, 11:33:05 PM »

Jordan Hill out for the season.

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Author Topic: The NBA thread (Read 1519484 times)