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Stoney Mason · « **Reply #8400 on:** February 14, 2013, 10:25:22 PM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on February 14, 2013, 10:23:02 PM

Quote from: Stoney Mason on February 14, 2013, 10:22:08 PM
Rashard Lewis

It has to be tough to find the negatives for the Heat tonight but ...golf clap

He's always been one of my pet peeve hate players. I don't get many opportunities to express my hate of him.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #8401 on:** February 14, 2013, 10:27:16 PM »

His inability to be even average in his current role is astonishing, and yet another reminder how insane the Wizards were to believe he could be a centerpiece

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #8402 on:** February 14, 2013, 10:27:37 PM »

lol refs

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #8403 on:** February 14, 2013, 10:31:23 PM »

10-13 for Bosh. What do OKC need Perkins for again? Really he shouldn't be in there for more than 5 minutes to spell Collison

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #8404 on:** February 14, 2013, 10:32:39 PM »

goddamn that lebron 3

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #8405 on:** February 14, 2013, 10:33:41 PM »

hasn't shown up on LP yet but i will look forward to it

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #8406 on:** February 14, 2013, 10:34:24 PM »

oh I didn't know you were on a delay. I'll try not to spoil it anymore, sorry dude

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #8407 on:** February 14, 2013, 10:36:17 PM »

lol at Reggie - 'When he starts making those shots on a consistent basis...'

How can he watch all these games and have no fucking clue what he is seeing? Steve put him right but I want blood there

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #8408 on:** February 14, 2013, 10:37:08 PM »

I'm watching live so no biggie - there is always like a minute or so of delay though. Encoding or whatever

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #8409 on:** February 14, 2013, 10:37:46 PM »

but yeah, that three was pretty great

almost don't want him to shoot anymore

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #8410 on:** February 14, 2013, 10:39:27 PM »

well, looks like he'll have to -- game is getting tight

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #8411 on:** February 14, 2013, 10:40:28 PM »

Quote

@JohnKrolik: By the way, Reggie, you shot better on 3s than LeBron has this year 3 times in 18 seasons.

:kylielaff

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #8412 on:** February 14, 2013, 10:41:05 PM »

wade fouled out, fuck.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #8413 on:** February 14, 2013, 10:43:55 PM »

so many fouls

tons of people at 5 fouls right now

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #8414 on:** February 14, 2013, 10:47:53 PM »

jesus, nobody can move without a foul, dislike

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #8415 on:** February 14, 2013, 10:49:56 PM »

#dead

jesus lebron

39 points

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #8416 on:** February 14, 2013, 10:51:47 PM »

maybe the Thunder will learn something from how much better they are against the Heat going small (or really, going non-Perkins)

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #8417 on:** February 14, 2013, 10:53:53 PM »

most of this game should show these NBA analysts that pontificate about the MVP race how much of a gap there should be between Lebron and Durant. KD will still probably win, but he really shouldn't.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #8418 on:** February 14, 2013, 10:57:36 PM »

58%

fuck :'(

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #8419 on:** February 14, 2013, 11:05:51 PM »

Were you pulling for him to steal a dunk at the end? Would have been a punk move IMHO

and oh hai there Lakers, getting destroyed by the Clippers I see

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #8420 on:** February 14, 2013, 11:12:40 PM »

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #8421 on:** February 14, 2013, 11:17:37 PM »

What's with you and Kobe and unwilling butt-holes.

edit: Well, BrandNew would be willing. Nevermind.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #8422 on:** February 14, 2013, 11:35:34 PM »

i'd pay good money to be a part of it

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #8423 on:** February 14, 2013, 11:56:53 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on February 14, 2013, 10:49:56 PM

#dead

jesus lebron

39 points

Durant had 40.

Mandark · « **Reply #8424 on:** February 15, 2013, 12:24:21 AM »

Quote from: AWESOM-O on February 14, 2013, 07:47:14 PM

I will say this: find me a "top 3 point shooter in the league" who wasn't also one of the top FT shooters. That's why I'm skeptical that LeBron can maintain that once he can no longer jump over everyone.

Bruce Bowen.

BOOM

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #8425 on:** February 15, 2013, 12:50:55 AM »

I didn't even bother responding to that one because if we were to start listing all the ways in which LeBron is an anomaly, wow

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #8426 on:** February 15, 2013, 12:53:09 AM »

Quote from: AWESOM-O on February 15, 2013, 12:09:38 AM

A lot of those points came when the game was out of hand. LeBron didn't outplay Durant dramatically though. The real story is that Miami took 88 shots to OKC's 73, due largely to the fact that Miami had a 13-5 offensive rebound advantage, and made 11/29 threes, which is pretty good (113.7 points/100). OKC's parade to the charity stripe couldn't overcome those two issues.

dude...

look at the FG %

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #8427 on:** February 15, 2013, 12:56:06 AM »

I'm also inclined to say that the story of the game was Miami's defense and a corresponding lack of adjustment on the part of OKC

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #8428 on:** February 15, 2013, 01:10:51 AM »

I'll admit it now. I'm finally bored with the Lakers. They just suck and enjoying that they suck was fun for a good long while but now its just old. Even if they somehow made it in the playoffs they would get crushed anyway. I think I've milked as much enjoyment out of them as I can.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #8429 on:** February 15, 2013, 01:20:04 AM »

No way

You can't have too much of a good thing

Also, being in Lakertown, I know that most of them are still delusional and think they can win it all if they make the playoffs

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #8430 on:** February 15, 2013, 01:35:16 AM »

http://stats.nba.com/?GameScope=Season&PlayerOrTeam=Player&StatCategory=Points

Cormac never seen again, dies jerking off

benjipwns · « **Reply #8431 on:** February 15, 2013, 01:37:36 AM »

Quote

PIE - Player Impact Estimate
PIE measures a player's overall statistical contribution against the total statistics in games they play in. PIE yields results which are comparable to other advanced statistics (e.g. PER) using a simple formula.(PTS + FGM + FTM - FGA - FTA + DREB + (.5 * OREB) + AST + STL + (.5 * BLK) - PF - TO) / (GmPTS + GmFGM + GmFTM - GmFGA - GmFTA + GmDREB + (.5 * GmOREB) + GmAST + GmSTL + (.5 * GmBLK) - GmPF - GmTO)

$:-\$

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on February 14, 2013, 09:58:00 PM

I don't really fault Jordan for the Kwame pick; nearly every team would have drafted him in that situation.

I don't know about that. I could be misremembering, but a lot of teams had Chandler, Curry and Gasol higher than him on their board and I don't think Brown was shooting up anybodies but the Wizards until Eddie Griffin tanked. Jordan turned down Brand for the pick and basically everyone agreed that was dumb. IIRC, Jordan refused to ever consider taking Gasol.

That draft was great. Rodney White as the "most talented player" in it. Kedrick Brown with a lottery guarantee from his amazing community college performances. Stern practically orgasming when Battier was finally drafted. Almost every unskilled but seven foot center that's bounced around the league for the last decade.

lol at this:

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If Jordan was looking for a competitor reminiscent of himself, he saw glimpses of one that June day as the 6'11", 250-pound Brown repeatedly lowered his thick shoulders and dismantled the 235-pound Chandler one-on-one. When the Wizards said they had seen enough, Brown walked over to Jordan, his hero, and vowed, "If you draft me first, I'll never disappoint you." Before turning away, the teenager offered a prediction for a one-on-one showdown in the not-so-distant future: "And I'll beat you."

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #8432 on:** February 15, 2013, 02:04:29 AM »

Yeah, he got played by an 18yr old. Amazing.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #8433 on:** February 15, 2013, 02:34:33 AM »

Dunno. Brown was the best high school player that year, and had a better offensive game than Chandler and Curry at the time; I remember reading about him dominating Chandler multiple times pre-draft.

Rodney White, another great Joe Dumars draft pick. Although I guess he did draft Mehmet Okur that year too tho

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #8434 on:** February 15, 2013, 04:00:16 AM »

dominated him in closed door one-on-one match-ups....which proved not to be Chandler's game anyway. Really, can you remember Kwame Brown ever dominating him in the pros? Or anyone else? Either Chandler got better fast or Brown was never that good

benjipwns · « **Reply #8435 on:** February 15, 2013, 04:31:43 AM »

I remember some scouts questioning if Brown could ever be a serious post player because he had bad hands and bad footwork. Curry was obviously a natural prodigy in that regard.

Kwame's upside was his size and athleticism, he was bigger than Chandler and more athletic than Curry.

The best draft hype was Darko's. Legit NBA size and toughness with Toni Kukoc's shooting and ball handling.

I remember some Piston fan forums where people were all "Larry Brown wanted Melo" and then people would point out how Brown also thought Jared Jeffries was a future superstar. All the Pistons needed was a tough big man who could stretch defenses and they'd have a title! That part was true sorta.

I argued with this one guy over Billups vs. Atkins, he felt the Pistons should start Atkins and not sign Billups because Atkins had put in the time as a Piston and Billups was a benchwarming journeyman the Pistons were going to massively overpay. Good times.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #8436 on:** February 15, 2013, 04:34:54 AM »

Quote from: BrandNew on February 15, 2013, 01:35:16 AM

http://stats.nba.com/?GameScope=Season&PlayerOrTeam=Player&StatCategory=Points

Cormac never seen again, dies jerking off

I spent way too much time at work today using this. God tier shit

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #8437 on:** February 15, 2013, 07:29:31 AM »

Wasn't Chandler much skinnier back then? Kwame had a more NBA ready body but that doesn't mean he had more potential. I'm sure quite a few lower drafted big men could have beaten Anthony Davis one on one just by sheer strength.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #8438 on:** February 15, 2013, 12:30:45 PM »

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=47749904&postcount=7917

Laker fans doing their best to sidestep actually giving props to Lebron.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #8439 on:** February 15, 2013, 12:32:02 PM »

oh he's a bulls fan, never mind. MJ envy

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #8440 on:** February 15, 2013, 04:10:58 PM »

The problem was that Darko was all potential, whereas Melo was the clear best available player; it was a horrible decision. I still don't see how you pass on the guy who had one of the best college careers ever, a top 5 tournament performance, almost no flaws, etc for a question mark. Darko also got man handled by some of the big men in that draft during work outs.

Fire Dumars.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #8441 on:** February 15, 2013, 06:07:10 PM »

Beezy · « **Reply #8442 on:** February 15, 2013, 06:39:21 PM »

Oh wow, he's actually dressed pretty decen-

*scrolls down*

Goddammit Westbrook....

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #8443 on:** February 15, 2013, 08:13:26 PM »

even multi-millionaires have laundry days I guess

i lazily googled for 'Russell Westbrook fashion tumblr' and got this, worth a flip through

http://nbahipsters.tumblr.com/

Robo · « **Reply #8444 on:** February 15, 2013, 08:16:14 PM »

Damn it, I love tie bars.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #8445 on:** February 15, 2013, 08:30:00 PM »

showed the Westbrook pic to both wife and child and got wildly divergent reactions - WTF and Cooooooool, respectively

Also child freaked out that Captain America is now wearing sunglasses, PD

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #8446 on:** February 15, 2013, 08:38:43 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on February 15, 2013, 01:37:36 AM

Quote
PIE - Player Impact Estimate
PIE measures a player's overall statistical contribution against the total statistics in games they play in. PIE yields results which are comparable to other advanced statistics (e.g. PER) using a simple formula.(PTS + FGM + FTM - FGA - FTA + DREB + (.5 * OREB) + AST + STL + (.5 * BLK) - PF - TO) / (GmPTS + GmFGM + GmFTM - GmFGA - GmFTA + GmDREB + (.5 * GmOREB) + GmAST + GmSTL + (.5 * GmBLK) - GmPF - GmTO)
$:-\$

In the NHL, the leader in PIE is Phil Kessel.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #8447 on:** February 15, 2013, 08:45:51 PM »

Quote from: Beezy on February 15, 2013, 06:39:21 PM

Oh wow, he's actually dressed pretty decen-

*scrolls down*

Goddammit Westbrook....

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #8448 on:** February 15, 2013, 09:01:25 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on February 15, 2013, 12:24:21 AM

Quote from: AWESOM-O on February 14, 2013, 07:47:14 PM
I will say this: find me a "top 3 point shooter in the league" who wasn't also one of the top FT shooters. That's why I'm skeptical that LeBron can maintain that once he can no longer jump over everyone.

Bruce Bowen.

BOOM

.575? Yikes.
Wesley Person, Matt Bonner, Brandon Rush, Trent Tucker, Jared Dudley, Mike Miller (uses nba reference) have managed to have high career 3P%'s despite LrBron-like free-throw shooting.
3 point shooters usually do have high FT percentages.
FT% of the top ten 3-point shooters of all time: .864, .902, .837, .888, .841, .835, .840, .904, .897, .856
FT% of those ranked 241-250 all time: .690, .790, .698, .675, .725, .739, .708, .766, .835, .730

Those ranked 241-250 have a 3P% near 35%.

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LeBron in Feb: 31.5 ponts per game on 16.6 shots.
R. Gay in Feb: 20.7 points per game on 20.3 shots.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #8449 on:** February 15, 2013, 09:04:57 PM »

I get that Jordan was arguably the greatest and also the most enjoyable to watch player ever. But all the hoopla and hero worshiping brought on by his 50th birthday is pretty disgusting. It's like he stopped a World War by himself or more.

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #8450 on:** February 15, 2013, 09:11:56 PM »

Well, he was the biggest sports star on the planet. He kind of deserves to be fawned over a little.

Him and Ali. That's the list.

Mandark · « **Reply #8451 on:** February 15, 2013, 09:15:07 PM »

Pele?

benjipwns · « **Reply #8452 on:** February 15, 2013, 09:18:19 PM »

Quote from: Flannel Boy on February 15, 2013, 09:01:25 PM

.575? Yikes.

Look at his 2002-03 season.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #8453 on:** February 15, 2013, 09:20:37 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on February 15, 2013, 09:18:19 PM

Quote from: Flannel Boy on February 15, 2013, 09:01:25 PM
.575? Yikes.
Look at his 2002-03 season.

Not only was his 3P% higher, but he made nearly three times as many three-pointers as he did free-throws.

Mandark, when did soccer become a sport?

Mandark · « **Reply #8454 on:** February 15, 2013, 09:26:28 PM »

When ESPN picked it up (ie around the time hockey stopped being one).

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #8455 on:** February 15, 2013, 09:28:49 PM »

I'm sorry, but we don't get ESPN in Canada.

Mandark · « **Reply #8456 on:** February 15, 2013, 09:33:13 PM »

Quote from: Flannel Boy on February 15, 2013, 09:28:49 PM

I'm sorry, but we don't get ESPN in Canada.

#ThirdWorldProblems

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #8457 on:** February 15, 2013, 09:36:26 PM »

#wegot99problemsbutSkipBaylessaintone

edit: Well, that's not accurate as we get Around the Horn on TSN.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #8458 on:** February 15, 2013, 10:02:07 PM »

Did you guys know Michael Jordan is 50?

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #8459 on:** February 15, 2013, 10:39:31 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on February 15, 2013, 09:15:07 PM

Pele?

I said SPORTS star.

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