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Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #9960 on:** May 16, 2013, 12:35:48 AM »

Tayshaun Prince proving that veteran leadership and championship experience is an intangible.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #9961 on:** May 16, 2013, 12:57:26 AM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on April 26, 2013, 03:23:36 PM

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Stoney Mason · « **Reply #9962 on:** May 16, 2013, 12:07:23 PM »

Steve Contra · « **Reply #9963 on:** May 16, 2013, 12:12:01 PM »

Durant needs to work on that #2 thing a little better

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #9964 on:** May 16, 2013, 12:17:36 PM »

Am I tripping or can the Grizzles beat the Heat? I know they have to deal with the Spurs first which will be tough, but if they get to the finals it could be interesting. They seem like a good match up especially in the front court.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #9965 on:** May 16, 2013, 12:17:45 PM »

TEAM PAYROLLS

2012/13

1. LA Lakers   $100,131,988
2. Brooklyn   $87,644,649
3. Orlando   $87,365,418
4. Miami     $83,777,933
5. Philadelphia   $81,901,193
6. New York   $79,977,119

22. Indiana   $66,107,195
25 Memphis   $63,054,115

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #9966 on:** May 16, 2013, 12:22:15 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on May 16, 2013, 12:17:36 PM

Am I tripping or can the Grizzles beat the Heat? I know they have to deal with the Spurs first which will be tough, but if they get to the finals it could be interesting. They seem like a good match up especially in the front court.

The conventional wisdom is that Miami matches up worse against the Grizz than other teams. Big Bodies which Miami doesn't have a lot of. A team that slows the game down. Good defenders in Tony Allen and Prince and the big bodies to clog the inside. From a Miami fan aspect I'm rooting for the Spurs to win the series even though as a basketball fan, I would prefer the Grizz to win.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #9967 on:** May 16, 2013, 12:31:58 PM »

Yeah Griz/Heat is what I'm hoping for. Interesting contrast of styles.

However IIRC each time they've played each other the last few times the Heat have buried them.

edit: nope completely wrong

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #9968 on:** May 16, 2013, 12:54:06 PM »

Pacers v Grizz would be hilarious, especially for Stern.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #9969 on:** May 16, 2013, 02:04:14 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on May 16, 2013, 12:54:06 PM

Pacers v Grizz would be hilarious, especially for Stern.

That's my desired outcome. Really, Pacers vs. either the Spurs/Griz would piss Stern off.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #9970 on:** May 16, 2013, 02:06:29 PM »

Thug Ball Finals

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #9971 on:** May 16, 2013, 06:49:53 PM »

black excellence

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #9972 on:** May 16, 2013, 07:15:32 PM »

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #9973 on:** May 16, 2013, 07:18:39 PM »

I can't cosign the low cut pants but everything else is dope to me

Wade coming for Tubbs' spot

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #9974 on:** May 17, 2013, 12:55:08 AM »

Warriors trying to make their final stand to stay in the playoffs.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #9975 on:** May 17, 2013, 01:08:21 AM »

It's over. Good season and the Warriors can be proud of it.

Now on to the main course of Spurs versus Grizzlies.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #9976 on:** May 17, 2013, 02:12:38 AM »

Remember how before the season started everyone was sure it would be Lakers vs Thunder in the West finals? Good times, good times.

etiolate · « **Reply #9977 on:** May 17, 2013, 02:48:06 AM »

New head honcho of the Kings.

Now to go fetch a bucket to collect all those Seattle tears on GAF.

Also, sad to see Warriors out of playoffs but they'll be back if Mark Jackson doesn't screw things up. Curious to see what happens with Jack. I know Warriors fans hate him, but he'll get a lot of offers.

I think out of the teams left, I root for the Grizz or Spurs. I like that the Grizz are a team of pieces that actually fit with a point guard that runs things and controls the flow. The Pacers are a team I'm kinda ambivalent about. The Heat bore me outside of fast breaks and fuck the Knicks.

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TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #9978 on:** May 17, 2013, 11:22:54 AM »

I was just gonna say

she's gorgeous

Props to the Warriors. They were probably the team I was rooting for the most outside of the Heat. Fucking love Curry. Wonder if he'll be as hot next year from the arc?

Regardless, they'll be back in the running again next year. Same seed or similar seed no doubt, but with a vengeance.

Also fuck the knicks

Mandark · « **Reply #9979 on:** May 17, 2013, 11:29:22 AM »

Would like to see that Warriors team with a fully healthy Bogut all year, but what are the odds?

Congrats to the people of Sacramento for keeping their team, and congrats to the league on being rid of the Maloofs. Also, I guess congrats to all current NBA owners, whose teams are apparently worth way more now than they were just a few years ago, thanks to the boom, the new CBA, and a continuing willingness of cities to foot most of the bill.

I'm still mildly gobsmacked at the bidding war for the Kings (which not only involved a record valuation, but basically bribes to the owners in the form of giving up shared revenue/promising a higher relocation fee). The amount of money that the new owners took the city for is depressing, but not nearly as surprising.

Steve Contra · « **Reply #9980 on:** May 17, 2013, 12:49:49 PM »

What did the final deal look like? I'm glad Sacramento got to keep the Kings. It's a good fanbase and hopefully they can get shit going again. Seattle will get their team one way or another.

Mandark · « **Reply #9981 on:** May 17, 2013, 01:27:26 PM »

The deal was to buy about 2/3rds of the team's stock, based on an overall valuation of $635, which is highest ever in league history. The Grizzlies sold last fall for $377 million, and Prokhorov paid ~$420 million for 80% of the Nets and half of the Brooklyn arena, once you factored in debt he was covering, and the Hornets went for about $330 million.

Also, the Sacramento group promised not to take revenue-sharing money from the league, which is a pretty big deal. The city is paying a quarter of a billion dollars towards construction of the new arena, along with giving them billboard and parking rights. The city claims the money will be paid back with extra revenues from having the new stadium, but after looking at a watchdog report on it, ehhhhhhhhhhhh. In any case, huge gobs of money being thrown around.

Steve Contra · « **Reply #9982 on:** May 17, 2013, 01:29:09 PM »

I'm shocked the city of Sacramento would do act with callous disregard for the city's finances.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #9983 on:** May 17, 2013, 03:59:29 PM »

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Mark Montieth
‏@MarkMontieth
Based on language in NBA concussion policy it seems virtually impossible George Hill will play again this season.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #9984 on:** May 17, 2013, 04:49:52 PM »

FUCK

Knicks Heat conference finals ugh

Steve Contra · « **Reply #9985 on:** May 17, 2013, 04:56:29 PM »

Stern must be cumming buckets right now.

etiolate · « **Reply #9986 on:** May 17, 2013, 09:41:55 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on May 17, 2013, 01:27:26 PM

The deal was to buy about 2/3rds of the team's stock, based on an overall valuation of $635, which is highest ever in league history. The Grizzlies sold last fall for $377 million, and Prokhorov paid ~$420 million for 80% of the Nets and half of the Brooklyn arena, once you factored in debt he was covering, and the Hornets went for about $330 million.

Also, the Sacramento group promised not to take revenue-sharing money from the league, which is a pretty big deal. The city is paying a quarter of a billion dollars towards construction of the new arena, along with giving them billboard and parking rights. The city claims the money will be paid back with extra revenues from having the new stadium, but after looking at a watchdog report on it, ehhhhhhhhhhhh. In any case, huge gobs of money being thrown around.

Just to highlight how much The Maloofs made off of their own mess, they gained ownership of the Kings at a valuation of 156 million dollars back in 1999. After running the franchise into the ground, they turn it at a valuation of 535 million. This is based on a valuation of 525 million inflated by the idea that the team was movable and by HBN's deep pockets. Then they got another 10 million out of Renadive just to speed up the process and get rid of the Maloofs. Reportedly,after paying back all their loans, they will have made 200 million.

Whether the garage bond is a quagmire or not depends on how much the associated investors and developers actually build around the arena. It's not just making money off the arena, but the 'promises' of development around the area. Getting the NCAA tournament back and having a place for big touring artists will help some as well, but I think this is just pork to get investors into the downtown area. Such a practice is not new for Sac government.

I think the promise of no revenue sharing is something that's going to be standard now for any new owner. Both Seattle and Sacramento pledged this so I expect the BOG will want to hear it before approving anyone from now on.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #9987 on:** May 17, 2013, 10:04:52 PM »

Anyone surprised, other than Awesome-O?

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9285372/phil-jackson-compares-michael-jordan-kobe-bryant-book

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #9988 on:** May 18, 2013, 11:01:37 AM »

http://ballislife.com/skip-bayless-goes-off-on-durant-i-believe-i-overestimated-kevin-durant-over-the-last-7-years/

WHERE'S MY SKIP BAYLESS EMOTE, BORK?!?!?!

Beezy · « **Reply #9989 on:** May 18, 2013, 11:29:06 AM »

Quote from: BrandNew on May 17, 2013, 04:49:52 PM

FUCK

Knicks Heat conference finals ugh

Quote from: etiolate on May 17, 2013, 02:48:06 AM

The Heat bore me outside of fast breaks and fuck the Knicks.

I really hope they do and think they will, but there's no guarantee that the Knicks win tonight. I'm sure you all thought they had no chance before Thursday night. Fuck your teams too though, fucking dickheads.

Steve Contra · « **Reply #9990 on:** May 18, 2013, 11:30:52 AM »

He's a Kings fan, no need to rub it in.

Steve Contra · « **Reply #9991 on:** May 18, 2013, 01:11:19 PM »

The Phil Jackson stuff is pretty funny. I mean he didn't need to say it because nobody outside of LA thought otherwise, but it's definitely a big ol' fuck you to Kobe. I wonder what Phil had to say about Shaq? I mean if Shaq was a better free throw shooter he would be the best ever.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #9992 on:** May 18, 2013, 01:25:52 PM »

Lakers fans are delusional but it's not all their fault. The media did a great job of creating an argument that never should have existed.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #9993 on:** May 18, 2013, 02:11:31 PM »

Kobe's response really shows that he just doesn't get it. Jackson wasn't talking about individual stats, which is what Kobe seemingly focuses on with his Shaq obsession. Yes Shaq was the best player in the league during those championship years, and was the team's leader...but that didn't excuse Kobe from being an arrogant child. Shaq is my favorite NBA player ever but I won't deny he was an arrogant child too, but at the end of the day he was the most dominant player in the league: Kobe should have recognized that, and done his job. I see no reason why the Lakers couldn't have won four or five championships if Kobe wasn't such a child.

On one hand you can't fault Kobe too much for failing with guys like Smush Parker in those early After Shaq years. But at the same time, his inability to trust his teammates - especially this season - helped ruin the team.

Am_I_Anonymous · « **Reply #9994 on:** May 18, 2013, 02:32:28 PM »

MJ> Lebron> Kobe

Not sure what all the fuss is about.

Steve Contra · « **Reply #9995 on:** May 18, 2013, 02:35:22 PM »

Quote from: Am_I_Anonymous on May 18, 2013, 02:32:28 PM

MJ> Lebron> Kobe

Not sure what all the fuss is about.

Kobe fans?

Am_I_Anonymous · « **Reply #9996 on:** May 18, 2013, 02:37:14 PM »

Quote from: Steve Contra on May 18, 2013, 02:35:22 PM

Quote from: Am_I_Anonymous on May 18, 2013, 02:32:28 PM
MJ> Lebron> Kobe

Not sure what all the fuss is about.
Kobe fans?

Kobe fans are almost as bad as the "rewrite history" T-Mac fans....ugh

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #9997 on:** May 18, 2013, 06:31:53 PM »

I've been watching Griner play for a couple years, but just now heard her talk
http://espn.go.com/wnba/story/_/id/9289080/brittney-griner-says-baylor-coach-kim-mulkey-told-players-keep-quiet-sexuality

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #9998 on:** May 18, 2013, 07:30:53 PM »

George Hill IS STARTING tonight for game 6.

Night night Knicks

etiolate · « **Reply #9999 on:** May 18, 2013, 09:35:53 PM »

so Scot Pollard is in horror movies now

playing axe murderers

http://blogs.thescore.com/tbj/2013/04/04/video-scot-pollard-is-the-villain-in-a-horror-movie/

Am_I_Anonymous · « **Reply #10000 on:** May 19, 2013, 09:07:12 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on May 18, 2013, 06:31:53 PM

I've been watching Griner play for a couple years, but just now heard her talk
http://espn.go.com/wnba/story/_/id/9289080/brittney-griner-says-baylor-coach-kim-mulkey-told-players-keep-quiet-sexuality

I still think that's a man, baby.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #10001 on:** May 19, 2013, 01:11:01 PM »

I feel a little sorry for Carmelo. He's going to waste the prime years of his career playing with Amare for the next two years.

Amare makes 21 million next year and 23 million the year after that.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #10002 on:** May 20, 2013, 01:33:42 PM »

And probably not play those years either.

Beezy · « **Reply #10003 on:** May 20, 2013, 06:58:33 PM »

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #10004 on:** May 20, 2013, 08:22:18 PM »

And he's untradeable. And not Joe Johnson untradeable. Amare is really untradeable.

There is talk out there that Dwight is interested in joining the Rockets. You know how I know that's a lie. Because it makes sense. And Dwight doesn't do anything that makes sense. So I know immediately he is resigning with the Lakers.

Mandark · « **Reply #10005 on:** May 20, 2013, 10:36:04 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on May 19, 2013, 01:11:01 PM

I feel a little sorry for Carmelo. He's going to waste the prime years of his career playing with Amare for the next two years.

Amare makes 21 million next year and 23 million the year after that.

Poor Carmelo. However did he wind up in that pickle?

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #10006 on:** May 20, 2013, 10:41:00 PM »

Yeah I know he chose to go there and the Amare thing happening was a pretty good probability but I still cry for Melo at night. Don't judge me!

:'(

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #10007 on:** May 20, 2013, 10:55:09 PM »

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/thunder-no-plans-amnesty-160032997--nba.html

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Perkins averages 4.2 points, 6.0 rebounds and 1.1 blocks for his career, and Thunder coach Scottie Brooks doesn’t expect him to ever see him becoming more than that statistically.

“He's somewhat of an easy target because of his stats,” Brooks said. “He's never going to be a statistical guy. He brings toughness. He brings experience. He brings things that help you win. He makes winning basketball plays.

Beezy · « **Reply #10008 on:** May 20, 2013, 11:59:30 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on May 20, 2013, 08:22:18 PM

And he's untradeable. And not Joe Johnson untradeable. Amare is really untradeable.

Knicks fans already know this. We know our team tried to trade him already.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #10009 on:** May 21, 2013, 12:27:50 AM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on May 20, 2013, 10:55:09 PM

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/thunder-no-plans-amnesty-160032997--nba.html

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Perkins averages 4.2 points, 6.0 rebounds and 1.1 blocks for his career, and Thunder coach Scottie Brooks doesn’t expect him to ever see him becoming more than that statistically.

“He's somewhat of an easy target because of his stats,” Brooks said. “He's never going to be a statistical guy. He brings toughness. He brings experience. He brings things that help you win. He makes winning basketball plays.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #10010 on:** May 21, 2013, 01:23:02 AM »

I feel a little for Melo cuz of this

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #10011 on:** May 21, 2013, 09:02:33 AM »

I'm back to kind of hoping the Spurs win the series. And its not just because I think the Heat matchup better with them. It's just the basketball poet in me.

I'd like the see the Spurs big three get one more chance. I'd like to see the evolution of Lebron in this series reflecting what happened when he played the Spurs in the finals before. I like the thing that happened earlier this year with Pop pulling his guys adding some fuel to the fire. I like seeing Pop in a finals period and seeing what he'll say. And I like that both the Spurs and Heat are both offensive teams but go about it in pretty different ways.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #10012 on:** May 21, 2013, 10:48:26 AM »

Also, Spurs vs Heat finals is lose-lose situation for Kobe fans. There's already a bunch of people talking on LA sports radio about how they hate both teams.

A 5th ring for Duncan would probably do more damage to Kobe's legacy than Lebron winning a 2nd. Duncan played in the same era, has always been #1 for the Spurs and won more individual accolades. There is already enough evidence that Duncan was the better player but a 5th championship would seal the deal.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #10013 on:** May 21, 2013, 02:47:45 PM »

Quote

‏@WojYahooNBA
The Clippers have fired Vinny Del Negro, source tells Y!

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #10014 on:** May 21, 2013, 02:51:06 PM »

genuinely awful coach

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #10015 on:** May 21, 2013, 02:56:10 PM »

I honestly never watched the Clippers enough to form a truly intelligent opinion on the job he was doing. The basketball media hates him and there was talk that Chris Paul wasn't a fan so unless he got pretty far in the playoffs he was going to be the sacrificial lamb.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #10016 on:** May 21, 2013, 05:52:03 PM »

Saw this in one of ESPN's latest 5-on-5's:

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Grit & Grind against Wit and Mind

I quite like the sound of that

Mandark · « **Reply #10017 on:** May 21, 2013, 08:17:07 PM »

If they brought a fruit basket there could be some Pits & Rind.

Mandark · « **Reply #10018 on:** May 21, 2013, 09:20:55 PM »

You know it's a shitty draft when the Wizards move up in the lottery! </Insufferablehometownself-pity>

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #10019 on:** May 21, 2013, 09:27:11 PM »

Pistons at #8. Watch Dumars take Cody Zeller

Kyrie Irving+Nerlens Noel seems like it could be very explosive

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