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Smooth Groove · « **Reply #10020 on:** May 21, 2013, 09:35:39 PM »

Why have there been so many white players like Zeller who tested great at the NBA combine but aren't exceptionally athletic on the court?

Do black players just not take the combine seriously?

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #10021 on:** May 21, 2013, 09:38:30 PM »

Zeller had a good season and played on one of the best teams, it's natural he's going to get lots of attention. But I don't understand how people can fall for the same "tall white guy who can't create his own shot, can't play in the paint" gimmick again and again. To be fair there are a lot of black guys like that too, but it seems like there's always some dude who is sooo intelligent, so clutch, sooo...intelligent :dickiev

Mandark · « **Reply #10022 on:** May 21, 2013, 09:48:01 PM »

Some of the combine measures don't necessarily translate great to on-court athleticism. Recording a great standing vertical where you have all the time to gather yourself and all the space you need doesn't mean you're going to be able to elevate well two or three times from a scrum under the basket as you fight for a rebound.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #10023 on:** May 21, 2013, 09:58:14 PM »

True

Maybe they should do athletic tests that correlate better to game situations, like 3-5 quick jumps in a row and get the average of those jumps, or test jumps with weight vests to stimulate physical contact.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #10024 on:** May 21, 2013, 10:29:00 PM »

It's definitely an area where I'm baffled that the NBA doesn't just copy what the NFL does with its combine and work outs. Just come up with bball equalivents of the position drills/competitions.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #10025 on:** May 21, 2013, 10:49:58 PM »

San Antonio is just picking apart Memphis with precision offense.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #10026 on:** May 21, 2013, 10:55:32 PM »

Tony Parker is murdering the Grizz.

etiolate · « **Reply #10027 on:** May 21, 2013, 10:56:37 PM »

I doubt that. I hear PGs don't matter in the playoffs.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #10028 on:** May 21, 2013, 11:01:33 PM »

I'm happy for the Spurs. I thought there team was excellent last year but they just fell short. This is essentially the exact same team.

Heat Spurs would be really fun and I think a very potentially close series.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #10029 on:** May 21, 2013, 11:11:51 PM »

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If Chris Hansen had been able to buy the Sacramento Kings and relocate the team to Seattle, then Phil Jackson was going to have a prominent role in the organization.

During an interview on the Dan Patrick Show on Tuesday morning, the NBA coaching legend with 11 championships said he had conversations with Hansen about returning basketball.

“I had an agreement with the guy that put the deal together for Seattle Chris Hansen,” Jackson said. “I thought he was dynamic. I thought he had great ideas. He went through the whole process of getting an arena. He did everything right except win the franchise.

“But his vision I could buy into. I thought he had the right vision for a team. And he made basically the offer of take what you want to take as a job. As a consultant? If you want to be an owner, be a part owner. Be a consultant? Work in the basketball operations side if you want to or coach. It didn’t matter to him. We talked about a number of things.”

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #10030 on:** May 21, 2013, 11:45:13 PM »

Tied up with the flagrant.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #10031 on:** May 21, 2013, 11:51:00 PM »

OT. If the Grizz can steal this one that would be huge because they've been outplayed tonight and really shouldn't win.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #10032 on:** May 22, 2013, 12:07:49 AM »

Grizz offense $:-\$

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #10033 on:** May 22, 2013, 11:59:48 AM »

bummer for the griz. seems like they're toast now.

Am_I_Anonymous · « **Reply #10034 on:** May 22, 2013, 01:54:55 PM »

Yawn...griz versus spurs is nap inducing. It's like watching the post dominique hawks vs the late 90's pistons (but with a subdued attitude)...

Let's watch the Cav's pass on Mclemore for Noel and then watch me piss on the Q.

This just screams Bowie over Jordan part 2.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #10035 on:** May 22, 2013, 03:49:42 PM »

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshha9bNO8boSBU3jZjV

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #10036 on:** May 22, 2013, 04:37:02 PM »

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Daryl Morey ‏@dmorey 2h
Best draft interview answers ever part 1: player, can you pass a drug test? [grabs table] TODAY?!?

T234 · « **Reply #10037 on:** May 22, 2013, 06:50:38 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on May 22, 2013, 04:37:02 PM

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Daryl Morey ‏@dmorey 2h
Best draft interview answers ever part 1: player, can you pass a drug test? [grabs table] TODAY?!?

100 bux says it's Archie Goodwin.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #10038 on:** May 22, 2013, 11:00:00 PM »

Extremely close game all the way through.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #10039 on:** May 22, 2013, 11:07:17 PM »

David West is crushing.

11 of 15. 26 points.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #10040 on:** May 22, 2013, 11:12:17 PM »

Unfortunate really bad turnover for George there.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #10041 on:** May 22, 2013, 11:19:13 PM »

Unreal.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #10042 on:** May 22, 2013, 11:30:17 PM »

Despite Lebron's willingness to go into the post now and be a point forward, he often still has shitty looking post moves and poor footwork.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #10043 on:** May 22, 2013, 11:39:18 PM »

Been a classic game. 50 seconds left. I have no idea who is going to win this.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #10044 on:** May 22, 2013, 11:44:39 PM »

Taking out Hibbert on that play Vogel.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #10045 on:** May 22, 2013, 11:46:53 PM »

Wade you dumb ass.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #10046 on:** May 22, 2013, 11:48:20 PM »

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #10047 on:** May 22, 2013, 11:51:38 PM »

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #10048 on:** May 22, 2013, 11:53:05 PM »

Vogel is gonna get murdered in the press for benching Hibbert twice on those two Lebron drives.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #10049 on:** May 22, 2013, 11:53:25 PM »

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #10050 on:** May 22, 2013, 11:57:08 PM »

Hell of a game. Lots of ways to look at it. Despite the loss the Pacers have to be encouraged they played the Heat essentially to a tie on the road. It took a miracle three to get them into OT but then they kinda had the game won until Vogel got too cute for his own good.

So its clear they can play the Heat evenly and create a lot of problems on defense. And except for that turnover George played really well down the stretch. Gonna be a good series.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #10051 on:** May 23, 2013, 12:13:30 AM »

George was amazing in the 2nd half and OT

Kid has legit superstar potential. When George's shot is on, his size and athleticism make him a much tougher opponent for Lebron than Melo ever was.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #10052 on:** May 23, 2013, 12:35:36 AM »

Bosh only had 2 rebounds

but at least he got maybe the most important one of the game

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #10053 on:** May 23, 2013, 08:22:33 AM »

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #10054 on:** May 23, 2013, 01:35:14 PM »

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Dwight Howard Interested In Ruining Rockets

LOS ANGELES—Ahead of his impending free agency, Lakers center Dwight Howard told reporters Thursday that he is “very interested” in moving to Houston and completely ruining the Rockets. “They have a great young core of players with James Harden and Jeremy Lin, so I’d obviously love the chance to go shatter their chemistry and tear the entire locker room apart,” said Howard, adding that he would “relish the opportunity” to totally undermine Rockets head coach Kevin McHale. “There are a few teams on my radar right now. Dallas has a really solid roster too, and I’m definitely intrigued by the prospect of clashing with Dirk Nowitzki and running that whole franchise into the ground. We’ll just have to wait and see what happens.” Howard did stress to reporters, however, that he has not yet ruled out remaining in Los Angeles to continue destroying the Lakers for the foreseeable future.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/dwight-howard-interested-in-ruining-rockets,32552/

On another note.

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Adrian Wojnarowski
‏@WojYahooNBA
All NBA first-team: LeBron James, Kevin Durant, Tim Duncan, Kobe Bryant and Chris Paul.

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2nd team:
Gasol
Melo
Griffin
Westbrook
Parker

3rd team:
Lee
Dwight Koufos
George
Wade
Harden

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #10055 on:** May 23, 2013, 01:58:31 PM »

btw Chris Andersen has the highest PER of anybody in the playoffs. 32.65

He's also shooting 83% on 7.9 points per game.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #10056 on:** May 23, 2013, 02:10:22 PM »

Apparently you don't need to play All season to be All NBA?

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #10057 on:** May 23, 2013, 02:17:41 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on May 23, 2013, 01:58:31 PM

btw Chris Andersen has the highest PER of anybody in the playoffs. 32.65

He's also shooting 83% on 7.9 points per game.

So he's the best player in the playoffs?

*daps smooth groove*

Steve Contra · « **Reply #10058 on:** May 23, 2013, 03:42:24 PM »

And yet the Heat won. And the Lakers will still suck next year.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #10059 on:** May 23, 2013, 03:42:58 PM »

Quote from: AWESOM-O on May 23, 2013, 03:38:02 PM

Quote from: BrandNew on May 23, 2013, 08:22:33 AM

The replay shows three clear steps after he picks up his dribble. The Pacers got robbed. The basket should have been waved off.

No it doesn't

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #10060 on:** May 23, 2013, 05:10:28 PM »

Quote from: AWESOM-O on May 23, 2013, 03:38:02 PM

Quote from: BrandNew on May 23, 2013, 08:22:33 AM

The replay shows three clear steps after he picks up his dribble. The Pacers got robbed. The basket should have been waved off.

You're a moron. He took two and then jumped up.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #10061 on:** May 23, 2013, 06:16:22 PM »

nah you're still a moron. thats a move kobe makes all the time, and you would never say that when kobe does it

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #10062 on:** May 23, 2013, 07:48:34 PM »

That's not a travel in the NBA or even College nowadays

Go watch high school basketball if you think that's a travel

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #10063 on:** May 23, 2013, 07:55:51 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on May 23, 2013, 02:17:41 PM

Quote from: Stoney Mason on May 23, 2013, 01:58:31 PM
btw Chris Andersen has the highest PER of anybody in the playoffs. 32.65

He's also shooting 83% on 7.9 points per game.

So he's the best player in the playoffs?

*daps smooth groove*

For players in the 15 mins/game range, he's the best player. Not being adjusted for minutes played is one of PER's biggest weaknesses. For example, win shares do a better job of showing how much a player has contributed to his team's record.

Btw, I'm not the biggest fans of PER. It's not bad but it tends to reward players who take many shots.

Steve Contra · « **Reply #10064 on:** May 23, 2013, 08:03:29 PM »

Wasn't this something you were working on? And that's actually a real question.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #10065 on:** May 23, 2013, 08:07:56 PM »

Quote from: AWESOM-O on May 23, 2013, 07:56:03 PM

Let me know when you're in California next, BrandNew. I will fuck-start your face, tape it, and then upload the massacre to The Bore as a series of gifs.

I think this is the same insult Kobe delivered to his mother.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #10066 on:** May 23, 2013, 08:31:18 PM »

Quote from: AWESOM-O on May 23, 2013, 07:56:03 PM

Let me know when you're in California next, BrandNew. I will fuck-start your face, tape it, and then upload the massacre to The Bore as a series of gifs.

Why California? A Denver hotel seems more appropriate.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #10067 on:** May 23, 2013, 08:31:52 PM »

fuck-start

this is internet nba trash talk, I gots no ill will dog.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #10068 on:** May 23, 2013, 08:33:04 PM »

Well, I'm in LA most of the year

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #10069 on:** May 23, 2013, 08:34:01 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on May 23, 2013, 08:31:52 PM

fuck-start

this is internet nba trash talk, I gots no ill will dog.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #10070 on:** May 24, 2013, 01:57:43 PM »

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/63158/courtvision-roy-hibbert-the-protector

Good article about Hibbert talking about how current stats don't really properly show the value of a player like him.

Mandark · « **Reply #10071 on:** May 24, 2013, 02:41:42 PM »

Really, Kirk Goldsberry? Shot-blocking centers are valuable in the NBA?

So brave.

Am_I_Anonymous · « **Reply #10072 on:** May 24, 2013, 04:14:49 PM »

Man all this thread needs is a blackace type mod to ban a black man for using the word negro and we'd almost emulate the lame ass gaf nba community. Good work guys...wanna debate if a point guard should be able to dribble or not?

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #10073 on:** May 24, 2013, 04:44:27 PM »

lol. Tony got fined for this.

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The Memphis Grizzlies Tony Allen has been fined $5,000 for violating the league's anti-flopping rules during the Grizzlies vs. Spurs game on May 21.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #10074 on:** May 24, 2013, 11:22:27 PM »

LeChoke

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #10075 on:** May 24, 2013, 11:35:35 PM »

Damn impressive. Dare I say Miami is showing a lot of chinks in the armor. Indy is fo real.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #10076 on:** May 24, 2013, 11:46:17 PM »

6 offensive rebounds for Hibbert. I didn't see the game, but from the box score it looks like he dominated Bosh.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #10077 on:** May 24, 2013, 11:54:11 PM »

Miami hasn't quite looked like how they were earlier this season for most of these playoffs. The ball hasn't moved as well as it did when I've seen them at their best. Obviously part of that is playing against higher caliber defenses but still its a problem.

Indy could easily be up 2-0 and has played Miami exactly even over two games. And its not like Lebron had a bad night or anything. They are matching them which is a little worrying. Next game is biggest NBA game of the season. If Indy wins. Uh oh.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #10078 on:** May 25, 2013, 11:28:04 PM »

Close game here with the Grizz and Spurs. About 2 minutes left. I still think the Spurs are gonna pull this one out.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #10079 on:** May 25, 2013, 11:42:26 PM »

Dat Grizz offense. $:-\$

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