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Joe Molotov · « **Reply #21540 on:** June 20, 2019, 04:00:03 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on June 20, 2019, 01:20:33 PM

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The Lakers are now scrambling to create more cap space between now and the start of free agency. According to ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski, they are shopping the only players left on their roster not named LeBron or Kyle Kuzma — Mo Wagner, Isaac Bonga and Jemerrio Jones — in an effort to shed more salary. Wagner was their first-round pick last year and showed some promise as a rookie.

I hope no teams are going to fall for these obviously made up names.

Akala · « **Reply #21541 on:** June 20, 2019, 05:58:49 PM »

team filler · « **Reply #21542 on:** June 20, 2019, 06:03:12 PM »

lebron writing the contracts now

benjipwns · « **Reply #21543 on:** June 21, 2019, 05:14:51 AM »

apparently the Cavaliers are going to just give J.R. Smith his salary to go away

Brehvolution · « **Reply #21544 on:** June 21, 2019, 10:54:45 AM »

... and take the pipe with him.

team filler · « **Reply #21545 on:** June 21, 2019, 11:40:59 PM »

https://www.facebook.com/MexicanAdamSchefterOfficial/videos/327519361495374/

happy pride month

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21546 on:** June 25, 2019, 12:49:52 AM »

team filler · « **Reply #21547 on:** June 26, 2019, 03:07:01 AM »

https://twitter.com/KwaniALunis/status/1143683506008203264

team filler · « **Reply #21548 on:** June 26, 2019, 03:16:20 AM »

https://twitter.com/doesnt_o/status/1143756681706389505

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21549 on:** June 26, 2019, 11:51:16 AM »

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27054891/rockets-eyeing-sign-trade-butler

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1143906064779362306

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21550 on:** June 26, 2019, 12:34:30 PM »

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27059802/sources-nba-talks-fewer-games-season-event

Cutting the season to like 70 games has made good sense for awhile for a number of reasons. Fuck the records. Nobody cares about records for the NBA in that way.

I've never understood this idea of a mid-season cup that makes any kind of sense though. Everybody mentions soccer but culturally basketball has no tradition for such a thing. I don't understand why anyone would care without adding some cheesy gimmick to it like how baseball did their all star game game with home field advantage in the past.

Also not a fan of that play-in game for the playoffs spots. The college basketball situation is nothing like the pro basketball season situation so trying to gimmick your way into fake heat from it doesn't work to me.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #21551 on:** June 27, 2019, 09:31:48 AM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on June 26, 2019, 11:51:16 AM

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27054891/rockets-eyeing-sign-trade-butler

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1143906064779362306

Curious considering he won't play next season anyway. Why not take the money?

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21552 on:** June 27, 2019, 10:06:29 AM »

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27066586/sources-celtics-front-runners-sign-kemba

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21553 on:** June 27, 2019, 10:09:19 AM »

Quote from: Brehvolution on June 27, 2019, 09:31:48 AM

Quote from: Stoney Mason on June 26, 2019, 11:51:16 AM
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27054891/rockets-eyeing-sign-trade-butler

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1143906064779362306
Curious considering he won't play next season anyway. Why not take the money?

He will probably take the security of a long term deal. Especially now that he is injured. Teams will be willing to still give him a long term contract even with the injury so might as well take that security.

Akala · « **Reply #21554 on:** June 27, 2019, 10:31:46 AM »

Yep, especially if he holds any sort of grudge with how it went down. I would lol.

I like Kemba to Celtics. Probably not enough to get them over Philly but good fit and they should be competitive. Predicting Kawhi leaves and Butler and Harris stay put, but we'll see. FA looking fun.

benjipwns · « **Reply #21555 on:** June 27, 2019, 10:49:54 AM »

The Rockets going so hard after Butler seems insane. Especially since the Warriors might not be in their way at all this year.

Then you factor in that the testiness between Harden and Paul is simply rooted in that both feel more trusting in themselves having the ball, something that Butler's spent the last three years on three separate teams indicating he wouldn't help in the slightest.

Akala · « **Reply #21556 on:** June 27, 2019, 10:52:16 AM »

They know they aren't built for the playoffs as it stands.

benjipwns · « **Reply #21557 on:** June 27, 2019, 10:56:44 AM »

The hell lineup is over, everybody's getting big again yet mobile. Seems absurd to dump somebody like Capela plus three other lineup guys (even if you can probably scrounge up slightly cheaper versions in the end) just to get another ball dominant wing.

The team just dumped Melo, MCW, James Ennis, Brandon Knight and Chriss, paying out first rounders to do it, at the deadline last year to get under the luxury tax. This would be dumping the other half of the roster and winding up facing the luxury tax!

benjipwns · « **Reply #21558 on:** June 27, 2019, 11:05:39 AM »

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Alternatively, they could look to trade DeRozan (perhaps for a reunion with Dwane Casey in Detroit, for the expiring deals of Reggie Jackson and Langston Galloway plus young shooter Luke Kennard and two future first-round picks)

fucccckkk no

BisMarckie · « **Reply #21559 on:** June 27, 2019, 11:10:00 AM »

Bulls interested in Julius Randle.

That‘s what that team needs, another good but not great scorer who can‘t play defense.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21560 on:** June 27, 2019, 03:53:29 PM »

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1144308910553276417

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1144309088827912192

benjipwns · « **Reply #21561 on:** June 27, 2019, 04:18:03 PM »

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Lakers general manager Rob Pelinka unloaded the contracts of Mo Wagner, Isaac Bonga and Jemerrio Jones to the Washington Wizards to make the Anthony Davis deal with New Orleans a three-team trade, league sources tell ESPN.

there's always money in the ~~banana stand~~ Washington Wizards

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21562 on:** June 27, 2019, 04:46:32 PM »

For what its worth if you can get Kawhi Leonard then get Kawhi Leonard. I still don't think that is likely but whatever go for it. If you land it you are set.

I'm not sure I think the other free agents are worth it except Klay who is almost certainly going to sign back for the Warriors (and is hurt anyway just like Durant). I would take that money and use it to fill out the rest of the rosters with a few more good players who aren't of that superstar stature.

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #21563 on:** June 27, 2019, 04:56:15 PM »

Those three players together don't make sense to me.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21564 on:** June 27, 2019, 05:06:23 PM »

Quote from: ToxicAdam on June 27, 2019, 04:56:15 PM

Those three players together don't make sense to me.

They don't. An elite point guard would make more sense but I think Kawhi, Lebron, and Davis are so talented they would make it work anyway.

But instead of getting D Angelo or Kyrie and that being the team, I think you can get cheaper parts to fill out the team. But whatever. I'm happy no matter what. This is all win win for me. I had basically already set my mind to Lebron not having a real chance these last few years. The AD thing was a real surprise to me. So anything at this point is extra.

benjipwns · « **Reply #21565 on:** June 27, 2019, 11:20:28 PM »

VomKriege · « **Reply #21566 on:** June 28, 2019, 05:46:38 AM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on June 26, 2019, 12:34:30 PM

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27059802/sources-nba-talks-fewer-games-season-event

I've never understood this idea of a mid-season cup that makes any kind of sense though. Everybody mentions soccer but culturally basketball has no tradition for such a thing. I don't understand why anyone would care without adding some cheesy gimmick to it like how baseball did their all star game game with home field advantage in the past.

Cups are good to have a manageable competition with a much larger set of starting teams and in the traditional football association setup it's also an opportunity for all lower divisions and amateur clubs to compete in the same competition as the elite. It introduces the excitement of head to head win or lose competition that doesn't exist in championships. It can be a boon for small clubs and it serves some purpose in evangelizing the sport for the Federation (there's generally some political shenanigans as Federation and League can be at odds, Leagues have started organising competing cups with only pro clubs and such in recent years). It wouldn't make a lot of sense in the US sport setup and having a season + playoffs competition makes a cup redundant.

benjipwns · « **Reply #21567 on:** June 28, 2019, 10:46:42 AM »

https://twitter.com/MMcCarthyREV/status/1144610936684240898

well now he won't do it, thanks Stephen A

benjipwns · « **Reply #21568 on:** June 28, 2019, 10:57:16 AM »

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But DeAndre Jordan, who played nine seasons with the LA Clippers, has an interest in playing in Los Angeles again, sources said. He would potentially be a fit for the Lakers, who are expected to try to find a way to sign Jordan and play him alongside Anthony Davis and LeBron James.

i guess that's one way to go

benjipwns · « **Reply #21569 on:** June 28, 2019, 06:20:21 PM »

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Kawhi Leonard will speak to the Los Angeles Lakers in the next few days and has made a personal request that only owner Jeanie Buss and Magic Johnson, the team's former president of basketball operations, be involved in the meeting, sources told ESPN's Stephen A. Smith.

Johnson told ESPN's Ramona Shelburne on Friday that he will help the Lakers in free agency in any way he can, but he said NBA rules do not permit him to be part of official team meetings with prospective free agents.

"A friend of mine called and says Kawhi wants to meet with you," Johnson told ESPN. "I said no problem. I'm available if that's what this man wants."

what is even happening

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21570 on:** June 28, 2019, 06:51:05 PM »

Despite all the barbs thrown at Magic he is the closest thing the Lakers have in that organization to someone who is respected by the players and is a Legend. So in that weird sense it makes sense.

team filler · « **Reply #21571 on:** June 28, 2019, 07:07:17 PM »

trade bron, sign kawhi!

bluemax · « **Reply #21572 on:** June 29, 2019, 12:21:29 AM »

https://twitter.com/JoshEberley/status/1144785454115577856

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21573 on:** June 29, 2019, 01:32:22 AM »

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27078092/collison-retires-nba-31-focus-faith

Kinda crazy. He is walking away from a lot of money.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21574 on:** June 29, 2019, 06:55:16 PM »

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1145089589599752192

benjipwns · « **Reply #21575 on:** June 29, 2019, 07:41:32 PM »

Mirotic is heading back to Europe

Former MVP Derrick Rose is going to the Pistons

apparently KD and Kawhi are going to meet/talk before deciding

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1145093171870883840

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21576 on:** June 30, 2019, 02:35:50 AM »

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1145178732023484417

benjipwns · « **Reply #21577 on:** June 30, 2019, 02:47:30 AM »

MULTIPLE SOURCES!

https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard/status/1145118290206846976

https://twitter.com/FoxSportsRadio/status/1143324427683323905

team filler · « **Reply #21578 on:** June 30, 2019, 02:51:28 AM »

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21579 on:** June 30, 2019, 04:55:29 AM »

https://twitter.com/DidTheSixersWin/status/1145093518127443968

Take that one with a grain of salt as its not anybody with something on the line but still

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21580 on:** June 30, 2019, 04:27:41 PM »

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The Portland Trail Blazers and Damian Lillard have agreed to a four-year, $196 million super maximum contract extension, sources confirmed to ESPN's Brian Windhorst.

The All-NBA guard will have a player option for $54.3 million in the last year of the extension, sources said.

Lillard, 28, has two years and around $61 million left on his current deal. The extension would keep him in Portland through the 2024-25 season.

jakefromstatefarm · « **Reply #21581 on:** June 30, 2019, 04:28:23 PM »

$53 million before taxes for a 34 year old...

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21582 on:** June 30, 2019, 04:46:22 PM »

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1145413143470006273

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21583 on:** June 30, 2019, 05:01:02 PM »

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1145435852476243968
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1145435074655117314

Knicks

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #21584 on:** June 30, 2019, 05:32:41 PM »

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #21585 on:** June 30, 2019, 07:23:11 PM »

@ramonashelburne
The Knicks and owner Jim Dolan were not prepared to offer Kevin Durant a full max contract due to concerns over his recovery from the Achilles injury, league sources tell me and
@wojespn

Knicks officials are in Los Angeles tonight, meeting with free agents such as Julius Randle.
https://twitter.com/ramonashelburne/status/1145471388356100096?s=20

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21586 on:** June 30, 2019, 10:08:31 PM »

easymoneysniper is Kevin Durant.

https://i.imgur.com/w58ZfCS.jpg

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21587 on:** June 30, 2019, 10:14:08 PM »

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1145476068498989063

jakefromstatefarm · « **Reply #21588 on:** June 30, 2019, 11:26:59 PM »

Sixers lose jimmy and reddick, resign tobias and bring in horford. That lineups gonna be awful and will also easily make it to the conference finals

agrajag · « **Reply #21589 on:** June 30, 2019, 11:53:31 PM »

https://twitter.com/TheSurrealAndre/status/1145445779903004673

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #21590 on:** July 01, 2019, 12:41:41 AM »

Honestly, fuck the Knicks. They don’t deserve to ever be good. The owner sucks, the fan base sucks, their history sucks.

BisMarckie · « **Reply #21591 on:** July 01, 2019, 08:18:55 AM »

Akala · « **Reply #21592 on:** July 01, 2019, 08:38:26 AM »

lol Knicks but should be ok for Brooklyn in a yearish.

Pels now look kind of weird on paper, but guess we will see.

I don't really like the Russell/Iggy three way trade.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #21593 on:** July 01, 2019, 12:20:25 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on June 30, 2019, 07:23:11 PM

@ramonashelburne
The Knicks and owner Jim Dolan were not prepared to offer Kevin Durant a full max contract due to concerns over his recovery from the Achilles injury, league sources tell me and
@wojespn

Knicks officials are in Los Angeles tonight, meeting with free agents such as Julius Randle.
https://twitter.com/ramonashelburne/status/1145471388356100096?s=20

Sources are reporting that I'm not interested in a relationship with Kate Upton at this time.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21594 on:** July 01, 2019, 05:12:10 PM »

Pretty fascinating off-season. A lot of good talent seems to be spread around now.

Not sure what to make of some of the stuff.

The 76ers are still very talented but they have a really big lineup which is the opposite of the direction a lot of the NBA is moving. Will be interesting to watch. Don't really understand why Jimmy Butler would want to head to Miami over them.

The Russell to Warriors move is also equal parts fascinating perplexing. I mean he is a very good young player. But I'm surprised another guard is the direction they went instead of a wing.

benjipwns · « **Reply #21595 on:** July 01, 2019, 06:18:54 PM »

Warriors will unofficially retire #35.

Everything turning into massive multi-team sign-and-trade deals is great.

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The Miami Heat completed a four-team trade that allows them to sign All-Star guard Jimmy Butler to a four-year, $142 million contract, league sources told ESPN on Monday.

The Heat are sending center Hassan Whiteside to the Portland Trail Blazers, guard Josh Richardson to the Philadelphia 76ers and a protected 2023 first-round pick to the Los Angeles Clippers to secure the salary cap flexibility to complete the sign-and-trade deal with the 76ers, league sources tell ESPN.

The Blazers acquired Whiteside for forwards Meyers Leonard and Maurice Harkless in the trade, sources said. Harkless and his $11 million expiring contract are headed to the Clippers in the deal, which is the reason the Clippers were able to extract the protected 2023 first-round pick.

...

The Dallas Mavericks had interest in acquiring Heat guard Goran Dragic in a previous, three-team construction of the Butler sign-and-trade, however, they "changed course" Dragic's agent, Bill Duffy, told ESPN.

"In analyzing it, his salary was too high based on other things they're trying to do," Duffy told ESPN.

Apparently the Lakers have lost like 80% of the role players they were targeting while holding their space open for Kawhi.

benjipwns · « **Reply #21596 on:** July 01, 2019, 06:22:04 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on July 01, 2019, 05:12:10 PM

The 76ers are still very talented but they have a really big lineup which is the opposite of the direction a lot of the NBA is moving.

It's a big lineup, but it's actually more flexible, switchy and more in line with the pass-3P-happy direction of the NBA than the Sixers were. Horford and Josh Richardson can play more spots, and fit more schemes, than Redick and Butler did.

Now when Embiid sits they can "go small" by playing a guy who has played center for most of his career along with two other 6-10 guys lol.

benjipwns · « **Reply #21597 on:** July 01, 2019, 06:26:53 PM »

https://twitter.com/Greentoad124/status/1145801621982601218

agrajag · « **Reply #21598 on:** July 01, 2019, 07:19:47 PM »

https://twitter.com/RDAmbition_/status/1145831903137632257

benjipwns · « **Reply #21599 on:** July 01, 2019, 07:37:41 PM »

Quote from: Kevin Pelton

This New York offseason reminds me of Sacramento's moves in the summer of 2017, when Knicks GM Scott Perry was briefly part of the Kings' front office before getting promoted to his current job. Like New York, Sacramento spent lavishly on veterans to put around a noncompetitive young core. George Hill got the three-year deal ($57 million with just $40 million guaranteed) while Zach Randolph got a two-year, $24 million deal and Vince Carter a one-year contract worth $8 million.

https://twitter.com/DannyLeroux/status/1145761824433790994

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In the past, Kanter has been unable to travel to Toronto because of security and visa concerns related to his outspoken criticism of Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, whom Kanter has compared to a dictator.

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