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Re: International Politics Thread - Turkey ruins Thanksgiving
« Reply #2040 on: December 22, 2015, 10:12:37 AM »
Spain has joined the rest of the world with a clusterfuck election.

People's Party fell from 45% of the vote and 187 seats to 29% of the vote and 123.
The Socialists fell from 29% and 110 seats to 22% and 90.
Podemos got 21% of the vote and 68 seats.
Citizens got 14% of the vote and 40 seats.

The United Left lost 9 of their 11 seats and half their vote. The Republican Left of Catalonia (for independence) picked up 6 seats and doubled their support. And the sorta centrist Catalonia independence Democracy and Freedom lost half its seats.

Young adult website VOX got 0.23% of the vote but no seats.

This is what the polling graph looked like going into election day:


176 seats is needed for a majority. Citizens opposes any coalition with Podemos. Podemos set out some quite harsh terms with the Socialists (they weren't very friendly in the first place) and announced it will form a cabinet on its own because why not. Everybody but Citizens opposes a coalition with the People's Party. Except the People's and Socialist Parties may be forced into it as they are the only possible combination coalition that can get a majority due to Podemos and Citizens opposition to each other. Some kind of coalition could be possible if the Catalonia and Basque parties joined one.

PP-C = 163 seats
PSOE-Podemos = 159 seats
PP-PSOE = 213 seats

A "center-left" coalition: POSE-Podemos-United Left-Left of Catalonia-Bildu (Basque "left") = 172 seats.
A "center-right" coalition: PP-C-DaF-Basque Nationalists (Basque "right")-Canarian = 180 seats.

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Re: International Politics Thread - Turkey ruins Thanksgiving
« Reply #2041 on: December 23, 2015, 11:45:53 PM »
https://decorrespondent.nl/3789/Operation-Easy-Chair-or-how-a-little-company-in-Holland-helped-the-CIA-bug-the-Russians/116534484-2a3d7f11

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On a warm September day, we stand at the entrance to the headquarters of the BVD’s successor organization, the Dutch General Intelligence and Security Service (Algemene Inlichtingen- en Veiligheidsdienst, or AIVD), in the town of Zoetermeer. Four men are in front of us in the security line. “Ill-fitting suits and cheap shoes,” Cees whispers. “CIA, definitely.” As they walk through the door one by one, show their passports, empty their pockets, lay their bags on the belt and walk through the metal detector, we hear them talking to the guards.

You could cut the American accents with a knife.

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Re: International Politics Thread - Turkey ruins Thanksgiving
« Reply #2042 on: December 28, 2015, 04:33:39 PM »
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The State Department is counting "bringing peace" to Syria as one of its wins in 2015.

A boastful recap of the State Department’s accomplishments, written by spokesman John Kirby, includes the bold subheadline of "Bringing Peace, Security to Syria" above a more modest entry talking about U.S. aid for those affected by the country's turmoil and the U.S. push for a political transition from President Bashar Assad.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/state-department-claims-peace-syria-2015-win-217168#ixzz3ve7nBYv2


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Re: International Politics Thread - Turkey ruins Thanksgiving
« Reply #2043 on: December 28, 2015, 04:34:37 PM »
There's still 3 days let to knock that one out, right?
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Re: International Politics Thread - Turkey ruins Thanksgiving
« Reply #2044 on: December 29, 2015, 06:11:15 PM »
Victory accomplished, we can all go home now - in ten years. 

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Re: International Politics Thread - Turkey ruins Thanksgiving
« Reply #2045 on: December 30, 2015, 01:48:43 AM »

Re: International Politics Thread - Turkey ruins Thanksgiving
« Reply #2046 on: December 30, 2015, 03:27:29 PM »
What if they hit us with rockets? We would probably do nothing and the Republicans would cry about loss of American prestige in the world. Or we would start a war where we only conduct airstrikes, mostly with drones, and 99% of the US wouldn't care.

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Re: International Politics Thread - Turkey ruins Thanksgiving
« Reply #2047 on: December 30, 2015, 03:45:55 PM »
It's a pressure release for headliners who think the rest of the world considers Muslim countries pussies. Everyone else knows this is just classical Iranian vanity (see: Dufus).

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Re: International Politics Thread - Turkey ruins Thanksgiving
« Reply #2048 on: December 31, 2015, 06:41:44 PM »
counting this as international news

 https://twitter.com/AtiehS/status/682617847139418112


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Re: International Politics Thread - Turkey ruins Thanksgiving
« Reply #2050 on: January 12, 2016, 06:56:58 AM »
Spain still hasn't picked a governing coalition or Prime Minister. PSOE has rejected any grand coalition. So they look to be headed back to the polls in a few months.

Taiwan votes on Saturday.

Bolivia will vote on removing Presidential term limits on February 21st.

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Re: International Politics Thread - Turkey ruins Thanksgiving
« Reply #2051 on: January 13, 2016, 10:49:47 PM »
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TRUMP: We have a little situation that could be a trojan horse. You look at what is happening in Germany. Cologne never had a problem. Cologne, Germany. Okay? Everything's fine. Everything's nice. Clean. Beautiful. No problem. Now they are having riots, they're having rapes.

Have you heard about the New Year's Eve [attack]? It was like a disaster. And the German people are going to riot. The German people are going to end up overthrowing [Angela Merkel]. I don't know what the hell she is thinking. But they have millions of people pouring into Germany, now they're not stopping them. Now I guess they are going to have to stop them because the German people aren't going to put up [with it].

And our leaders want to have -- I don't believe you want to have -- people coming in from migration from Syria. And when you look at that migration, it's very unusual. I look at it and I see so many men and they are young. They look like they should be on the wrestling team. And they are young and they're strong and you don't see that many women, that many children. It's sort of a weird deal. It's the migration. You see all these young, strong people and they are mostly men and I say what's going on.

I've noticed that, in all fairness to you news guys, I noticed that three or four months ago when it all started. And I said, 'what's going on?' And who knows what it is. You know, the famous trojan horse. Is this a trojan horse? I doubt it, but it could very well be.

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« Reply #2052 on: January 13, 2016, 10:58:45 PM »
Jesus that has some good lines that will speak to straight to the souls of idiots 'Is this a trojan horse? I doubt it, but it could very well be.'  Very well done.


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Re: International Politics Thread - Turkey ruins Thanksgiving
« Reply #2053 on: January 13, 2016, 11:15:50 PM »
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I look at it and I see so many men and they are young. They look like they should be on the wrestling team. And they are young and they're strong and you don't see that many women, that many children. It's sort of a weird deal. It's the migration. You see all these young, strong people and they are mostly men and I say what's going on.
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Re: International Politics Thread - Turkey ruins Thanksgiving
« Reply #2054 on: January 13, 2016, 11:20:27 PM »
And I say hey...

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Re: International Politics Thread - Turkey ruins Thanksgiving
« Reply #2055 on: January 14, 2016, 12:22:43 AM »
A mass migration of strapping young men. :whew
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Re: International Politics Thread - Turkey ruins Thanksgiving
« Reply #2056 on: January 14, 2016, 10:15:45 AM »
so muscular, they should be on the wrestling team  :-*
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Re: International Politics Thread - Turkey ruins Thanksgiving
« Reply #2057 on: January 16, 2016, 06:45:45 PM »
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VIENNA —Iran reentered the global economy Saturday, as years of crippling international sanctions were lifted in exchange for the verified disabling of much of its nuclear infrastructure.

For Iran, implementation of the landmark deal it finalized with six world powers last summer means immediate access to more than $50 billion in long-frozen assets, and freedom to sell its oil and purchase goods in the international marketplace. Tehran has hailed the deal as vindication of its power and influence in the world.

The removal of sanctions comes as President Obama begins his last year in office, and almost seven years to the day since he called on Iran to “unclench your fist” and take steps toward rapprochement with the United States and the world. As a result of the agreement, he said in his last State of the Union speech this week, a “nuclear-armed Iran” has been prevented, and “the world has avoided another war.”

The triggering event for implementation was certification by the International Atomic Energy Agency Saturday that Iran had successfully completed all the nuclear steps it agreed to in July: sending the bulk of its enriched uranium outside the country, dismantling and storing most of its centrifuges, and disabling its Arak nuclear reactor, capable of yielding plutonium. The IAEA is also charged with monitoring and verifying Iran’s continued compliance.


Agency inspectors on the ground “verified that Iran has carried out all measures required....to enable Implementation Day to occur,” IAEA Director General Yukiya Amano said in a statement issued just before midnight, Vienna time.

IAEA certification of compliance opened the door to announcements and speeches by high-level officials from the negotiating parties. A new U.N. resolution codifying the deal immediately goes into effect. The IAEA begins strict monitoring provisions on the ground in Iran. White House executive orders and implementation guidance issued by the European Union and the U.S. Treasury, along with waivers of certain restrictions signed here by Secretary of State John F. Kerry, will start the wheels of international business and finance turning.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/world-leaders-gathered-in-anticipation-of-iran-sanctions-being-lifted/2016/01/16/72b8295e-babf-11e5-99f3-184bc379b12d_story.html

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Re: International Politics Thread - Turkey ruins Thanksgiving
« Reply #2058 on: January 16, 2016, 06:48:10 PM »
*frantically searches for Ralph Peters' analysis*


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Re: International Politics Thread - Turkey ruins Thanksgiving
« Reply #2060 on: January 16, 2016, 11:12:39 PM »
Tsai Ing-wen became Taiwan's first female president with 56.1% of the vote. (31% for Kuomintang candidate, 13% for People First) Her party, the Democratic Progressives also obtained a majority in the legislature.

The new New Power Party won five seats.
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The NPP aims to rewrite the Constitution of the Republic of China, which operates under the assumption that the Republic governs all of China (including mainland China, which the ROC has not governed since 1949), to just refer to the Taiwan Area.

In Spain, Pedro Sanchez the Secretary General of the Socialists went off the reservation and tried to form his own coalition against the wishes of the party which is now intent on replacing him before the next elections that have to be held by June 2016. Rumors are that Sanchez was willing to negotiate by himself with the People's Party to form a temporary grand coalition with him as PM. Socialist election "experts" expect the party to get battered even more in the upcoming election by Podemos and the People's Party due to this whole clusterfuck. Polling released today has them losing 11 seats to Podemos and PP picking up ten seats. This would result in the same hung parliament situation assuming the parties don't change their views on coalitions.

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Re: International Politics Thread - Turkey ruins Thanksgiving
« Reply #2061 on: January 16, 2016, 11:57:01 PM »
this is a depressing page
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Re: International Politics Thread - Turkey ruins Thanksgiving
« Reply #2062 on: January 18, 2016, 06:41:39 PM »
*frantically searches for Ralph Peters' analysis*



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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2064 on: January 20, 2016, 11:19:09 AM »
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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2065 on: January 22, 2016, 03:50:23 AM »
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/22/world/americas/us-presses-for-haiti-runoff-vote-amid-fears-of-violence-and-fraud.html
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PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti — After spending more than $33 million on a widely discredited election in Haiti, the United States has been pressing the country’s leaders to go ahead with a presidential runoff election this Sunday, despite a growing chorus of warnings that the vote could lead to an explosion of violence.

Haitian leaders, political parties and others have denounced the first round of voting in October as a fraud-riddled fiasco and protested in the streets to stop the runoff. One of the two remaining candidates says he is boycotting, effectively making it a one-person race.

President Michel J. Martelly took to the airwaves on Thursday to warn that protests on Election Day would not be tolerated. Civic, business and religious leaders are engaged in tense back-room negotiations to broker a deal in an effort to avoid violence and put off the race. Eight election observer organizations have pulled out over the fraud accusations and chaos, including a Haitian group funded by the United States.
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The Obama administration’s response is a sharp contrast to the position it took in 2010, when the United States was so appalled by rampant fraud that Hillary Clinton, the secretary of state at the time, flew to Haiti to pressure its leaders to change the results. Mr. Martelly was bumped up in the election results so that he could compete in a runoff.

“The hypocrisy from 2010 to 2015 is pretty remarkable,” said Jake Johnston, a researcher at the Center for Economic and Policy Research in Washington. “For the elections, a $30 million budget just from the U.S. and the likelihood of a government that is at least seen as illegitimate has to qualify as a waste.”

America's commitment to democracy  :usacry
Also like how changing the results of an election is framed as coming from moral outrage and not, you know, corruption and self-interest


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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2067 on: February 01, 2016, 02:50:53 PM »
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/world-health-organization-declares-the-zika-outbreak-an-international-emergency

Interesting* to see how the olympics react to this. :doge


*I'm primed for disappointment, obv

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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2068 on: February 01, 2016, 04:39:03 PM »
Is the Zika Outbreak the next big south American dance that outrages moral Americans? 

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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2069 on: February 02, 2016, 07:40:09 AM »
Can anyone invade Poland please to get rid of the idiots in charge?

Every time I read an article about what nonsense government officials are spouting I'm deeply unsettled these fuckers have the backing of like 30% of the country.

I'm wondering who Borys voted for.

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« Reply #2070 on: February 02, 2016, 11:51:49 AM »
I'm wondering who Borys voted for.

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« Reply #2071 on: February 02, 2016, 01:59:57 PM »
Wishing Poland to be invaded is some pretty bad mojo given its history

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« Reply #2072 on: February 02, 2016, 02:24:52 PM »
We've got our hands full at the moment, soz.

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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2073 on: February 03, 2016, 07:29:52 AM »
Can anyone invade Poland please to get rid of the idiots in charge?

Every time I read an article about what nonsense government officials are spouting I'm deeply unsettled these fuckers have the backing of like 30% of the country.

I'm wondering who Borys voted for.

Polish political landscape is apparently just a collection of various shades of right-wing and conservative parties, for pretty obvious reasons I guess.
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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2074 on: February 03, 2016, 03:59:01 PM »
Can anyone invade Poland please to get rid of the idiots in charge?

Every time I read an article about what nonsense government officials are spouting I'm deeply unsettled these fuckers have the backing of like 30% of the country.

I'm wondering who Borys voted for.

Where is that Pol anyway? He said "Dubai!" and then disappeared.

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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2075 on: February 26, 2016, 05:45:32 AM »

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« Reply #2076 on: February 26, 2016, 05:00:38 PM »
High turnout in the Iranian elections. Maybe this is a good sign and reformists decided to vote again?

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« Reply #2077 on: February 26, 2016, 07:14:05 PM »
From what I've read, the Assembly of Experts was harsher than usual in declaring candidates ineligible.  Then again, maybe there's a version of that story every election cycle in Iran, where moderates and reformers point out how many people, including those with ties to the establishment, are excluded.

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« Reply #2078 on: February 27, 2016, 03:35:03 AM »
I was going to say, didn't the last time (or time before) they strike out like 95% of the candidates or something.

EDIT: For parliament they qualified 10443/11798 candidates. For the Assembly of Experts 166 out of 801.

In 2012 1600 out of 5000 and in 2008 1700 out of 4500 were disqualified . "90% of independent or reformist"

EDIT2: The Economist says 5000+ candidates were disqualified this time. I suppose that might be more accurate than Wikipedia's list of candidates.
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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2079 on: February 27, 2016, 03:50:14 AM »
Forgot about Ireland.

Fine Gael and Labour got jacked, falling from 36% to 26% and 20% to 8% respectively according to the exit polls. If it holds, hung parliament, well Dali. Much like in Spain with a set of not necessarily workable coalitions on the table.

Though I don't have any information on any "not under any circumstances" stances of the parties like in Spain where they all seemed to rule out each other even before the election. So they might be able to work some kind of Grand Coalition rather than needing immediate new elections.

Speaking of which, Spain is going to hold an expected-to-fail investiture vote on Wednesday for a candidate put up by the second and fourth largest parties.

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« Reply #2080 on: February 27, 2016, 03:57:40 AM »
http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/markaz/posts/2016/02/24-iran-elections-candidates-rejected-borden-maloney

(looks like they screwed up the bar length for this year's Majlis)


So definitely a low number approved.  Pretty sure the number who applied in the first place was much higher than 2012, maybe with reformists trying to sneak some more candidates in by flooding them with applications.

Iran's got such an interesting political set up.  Really, really hope that the moderate/reformist movement (which generally seems to do well electorally) can finally have its day without things getting bloody.

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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2081 on: February 27, 2016, 04:09:19 AM »
Just noticed it's the first election to both bodies at the same time.

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« Reply #2082 on: February 27, 2016, 08:44:54 AM »
Forgot about Ireland.

Fine Gael and Labour got jacked, falling from 36% to 26% and 20% to 8% respectively according to the exit polls. If it holds, hung parliament, well Dali. Much like in Spain with a set of not necessarily workable coalitions on the table.

Though I don't have any information on any "not under any circumstances" stances of the parties like in Spain where they all seemed to rule out each other even before the election. So they might be able to work some kind of Grand Coalition rather than needing immediate new elections.

Speaking of which, Spain is going to hold an expected-to-fail investiture vote on Wednesday for a candidate put up by the second and fourth largest parties.

FG and Fianna Fáil certainly won't create a coalition, but Sinn Fein are polling huge and looking to their biggest election ever. Very likely to take the third biggest party slot from Labour. There's a potential rainbow coalition depending how independents and the Anti-Austerity Alliance votes shake out but it's likely going to be a hung Dáil because even the exit polls are underestimating how much FF,FG and Labour got jacked from counts so far. 

Update: Labour are getting completely wrecked and both FG and FF getting major blows. SF are talking about a coalition with the independents and AAA already while FF and FG are hemming and hawing if they will or won't. The fuckery if the next potential Taoiseach is Gerry Adams :lawd
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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2083 on: February 28, 2016, 12:45:19 PM »
http://www.iiss.org/en/topics/deterrence/adelphi-launch-asias-latent-nuclear-powers-7b21

Interesting talk about Japan's, South Korea's, and Taiwan's politics and security issues concerning nukes.

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« Reply #2084 on: February 28, 2016, 04:11:15 PM »


This is a great interview in hindsight (its from 2012).   Basically all his worries came true. 

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« Reply #2085 on: March 04, 2016, 07:04:15 PM »
http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-us-navy-just-sailed-an-armada-of-warships-into-the-1762734867

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It is a foregone conclusion that China will be heavily militarizing their artificially-created islands in the South China Sea, likely resulting in a chain of invisible threat rings that overlap their way across nearly the entire disputed body of water. So far traditional diplomacy has not stopped this eventuality, and the best the U.S. has done is to sail within the supposed territorial waters of these islands as part of high-profile freedom of navigation exercises.

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« Reply #2086 on: March 05, 2016, 12:18:48 PM »
While the venal rent-seeker Donald Trump is given American screen time to talk about his penis, Xi Jinping takes steps to protect his people from vulgar, immoral and unhealthy content. ;_;7

http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2016/mar/04/china-bans-gay-people-television-clampdown-xi-jinping-censorship

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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2087 on: March 05, 2016, 12:39:14 PM »
We never got back to Iran. The "reformists" won, but it's a hung parliament.

And Ireland doesn't seem to have a frontrunner for Taoiseach or a coalition yet. This guy said a thing:
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ORyanair CEO Michael O'Leary called the outcome of the general election "a mess", expecting another election within 12 months. Ireland, he said, "can't survive with either a minority government or a coalition of liquorice all-sorts."

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« Reply #2088 on: March 08, 2016, 12:01:43 PM »
We never got back to Iran. The "reformists" won, but it's a hung parliament.

And Ireland doesn't seem to have a frontrunner for Taoiseach or a coalition yet. This guy said a thing:
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ORyanair CEO Michael O'Leary called the outcome of the general election "a mess", expecting another election within 12 months. Ireland, he said, "can't survive with either a minority government or a coalition of liquorice all-sorts."

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/election-2016/gerry-adams-will-stand-for-office-of-taoiseach-34521928.html

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« Reply #2089 on: March 10, 2016, 11:09:02 AM »
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v38/n05/didier-fassin/short-cuts

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The state of emergency, in general terms, gives the executive branch of government extraordinary powers over the mobilisation of the army, control of the borders, limitation of movement and setting of curfews. But in practice it has four main concrete consequences. The police can conduct searches in private and public spaces at any time without judicial warrant. The minister of the interior can put anyone considered a threat to public security under house arrest. State authorities can ban demonstrations and gatherings on the same grounds. Law enforcement officers can stop and search anyone without specific justification. Anticipating appeals to the European Court of Human Rights against the measures, the French government pre-emptively informed the Council of Europe on 27 November of ‘its decision to contravene the European Convention on Human Rights’.

You would think that these restrictions on public liberties and fundamental rights would be unpopular, and might even lead to public protest. In fact, the reverse has happened. In poll after poll, a large majority continues to support the emergency measures. There are two reasons: first, they are widely thought to be effective in countering terrorism; second, most of the population never gets to see the negative consequences.

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When in Ajaccio, Corsica’s largest town, a Muslim prayer hall was vandalised on Christmas Day – they burned Qurans and chanted ‘Arabi fora’ (Arabs out) – there was indignant coverage in the media and a unanimous outcry by politicians. But it wasn’t an isolated event. According to DILCRA, the government institution in charge of combating racism and anti-Semitism, the number of cases of aggression against Muslims, including the desecration of their places of worship, went up by 223 per cent in 2015 over the previous year (for the same period, ‘racist acts’ went up by 17 per cent and ‘anti-Semitic acts’ went down by 5 per cent). While these attacks are mostly the work of far-right groups, it’s hard not to see a parallel with the way the police themselves have treated the mosques where they have conducted their administrative searches, breaking down doors, bringing dogs into prayer rooms, throwing around Qurans, and never apologising for the damage or intrusion. It may be significant that, according to a recent survey, in the 2015 regional elections 51 per cent of the police and the military voted for the National Front. No need, then, to mobilise conspiracy theories to link ideology and practices.

The selective application of the state of emergency has consequences that are almost imperceptible for the majority of the population: since their doors aren’t being broken down in the middle of the night, all they see is the reassuring presence of the military in public spaces. Most people, looking away when someone is stopped and searched by the police, may not even have noticed the discriminatory enforcement of the emergency measures, or they may simply prefer to ignore it.


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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2090 on: March 10, 2016, 12:31:48 PM »
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You would think that these restrictions on public liberties and fundamental rights would be unpopular, and might even lead to public protest. In fact, the reverse has happened. In poll after poll, a large majority continues to support the emergency measures.

That may be true but the thing is... This governement is being grilled on something else. They're trying to pass through another reform for the general working law (they already had a few "modernizing measures" earlier in their mandate) which includes stuff like having a less inclusive definition of what is a night shift, looser conditions for employers to set up longer hours and limiting what damages you may be awarded in court for being laid-off without a proper cause. More importantly this new law is planning to allow for company-wide employer/employees agreements to be less favorable than the general law. Up until now, those agreements (whether on individual, company or industry level) were only enforcable if they were more advantageous to the employees.

Also while the state of emergency may have met with few opposition, the constant drumming up of the alarmist rhetoric is getting more and more of a problem with voters on the left. And it won't suddenly make Hollande a darling for people voting on the right.

In short this socialist governement is completely discredited in the eyes of its own voting base (on all those issues, there's more than a few grumbling coming from the party itself). Hollande was elected on the basis of a new European deal amidst the Greek crisis and the tail of the financial meltdown, yet sat on his hands as soon as Merkel said "Nein". Instead this socialist governement is ramping up the security apparatus, making exemptions for companies contributions (a tried and true measure costing a few dozens billions a year and which had never created a job ever), thinking about easier ways to allow for Sunday work and reforming work regulations.  :doge

I'm like the most milquetoast Socialist voter ever, but I'll probably cast my vote for the Communists / Chavist admirer coalition next time.

The saddest thing is that come next election it might not matter : if Le Pen manages to go through the first round of the presidential election, any sane French voter will be left with the choice of letting a lunatic xenophobe and crypto-fascist have its way for 5 years or casting a vote for whoever made it to the second round, which at this point in time may mean more Hollande or more Sarkozy (Although I think this fucker is burnt and won't gain the nomination but heh).
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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2091 on: March 10, 2016, 02:10:24 PM »
The saddest thing is that come next election it might not matter : if Le Pen manages to go through the first round of the presidential election, any sane French voter will be left with the choice of letting a lunatic xenophobe and crypto-fascist have its way for 5 years or casting a vote for whoever made it to the second round, which at this point in time may mean more Hollande or more Sarkozy (Although I think this fucker is burnt and won't gain the nomination but heh).

tfw u are unaccountable because you are the lesser evil

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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2092 on: March 10, 2016, 03:09:33 PM »
Oh they'll be held accountable at one point, and it's coming pretty soon now, when the far right will actually have the leverage to govern some of the grown up stuff. I always tried to vote whenever possible but my wife or my mother won't bother anymore and it's not for lack of interest in politics (my mum did May 68) and I can''t really blame them.

Don't those fuckers dare to be surprised when their heads will be on a pike. The system is dying and they're doing nothing to help a smooth transition.
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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2093 on: March 10, 2016, 03:49:39 PM »
Solidarity in misery, comrade. :ussrcry Oil has been low for less than a year and already privatization and neoliberal reform are being championed as the salvation. Especially in my city, which is the hub for the norwegian oil industry. This place used to be poor as hell before the oil rush and it's inflated as fuck because of it. I expect things to corrode pretty heavily once the state-run oil company moves the remainder of their operations to Oslo to save jobs there.

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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2094 on: March 10, 2016, 04:01:21 PM »
Seems social democrats all over Europe follow the same trajectory. :goty2

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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2095 on: March 14, 2016, 03:16:16 PM »
Putin ordering the withdrawal of the bulk of the Russian forces in Syria.
Will have to see how truthful it is. Will be curious to see some military assesment of how efficient that effort was. The russian army (especially the air arm) didn't fare really well in Georgia. If the scaling down is real, also a good lesson for Western powers about cutting the costs as short as possible.
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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2096 on: March 16, 2016, 11:21:23 AM »
Former president of Brazil Lula being offered a job as a minister which conveniently shield him from further investigations or being held in jail custody in the Petrobras scandal.

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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2097 on: March 16, 2016, 07:07:28 PM »
The taps :lucas
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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2098 on: March 16, 2016, 08:10:32 PM »
The taps :lucas

For those wondering : Turns out Lula had been wired with a microphone by the police without his knowledge (Pretty amazing, I guess) and some audio has been made public or leaked including conversations with current president Rousseff. No smoking gun in the tapes so far, but according to Brazilian comments it's pretty clear Lula & Rousseff are framing his recent entry in the cabinet as a way to escape investigations.

EDIT : Oh phone taps. Sounds less cool that secret microphone. Makes more sense too.
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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2099 on: March 18, 2016, 01:09:22 AM »
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