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Mandark · « **Reply #3900 on:** May 03, 2009, 02:50:40 AM »

Ha, when Specter switched I thought "now Ben Nelson gets order those 'Decisive Vote' business cards".

The problem with having barely as many votes as you need is that a single person (Specter, Nelson) or a small faction (Evan Bayh's merry band of chin-strokers) can hold a major bill hostage on their own.

We saw Menendez do the same thing with the emergency spending bill because of the Cuba issue. I'm glad they're looking at the reconciliation process to get around the 60 vote requirement, but the Senate is so dumb. Institutionally dumb. Wannabe House of Lords total.

Positive Touch · « **Reply #3901 on:** May 06, 2009, 08:58:49 AM »

so the dudes behind the torture policy won't be prosecuted, but two of them might be disbarred. thanks guys, for completely crushing any illusions i had about fairness in the justice system regarding those in power.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #3902 on:** May 06, 2009, 01:42:12 PM »

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/05/steele-cedes-power-to-critics-in-rnc.php?ref=fp1

that was quick

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #3903 on:** May 06, 2009, 08:22:04 PM »

I'm simultaneously giving two shits about who he picks while puffing myself up with outrage.

Damn that hurts.

Cheebs · « **Reply #3904 on:** May 06, 2009, 09:35:34 PM »

tomorrow is the national prayer day. Bush did a public event for it every year. Obama isn't doing one.

muslim or atheist?

Positive Touch · « **Reply #3905 on:** May 06, 2009, 09:48:52 PM »

both, of course

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #3906 on:** May 06, 2009, 10:37:31 PM »

Both, with a radical preacher.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #3907 on:** May 06, 2009, 10:42:14 PM »

What's the difference between the two?

Brehvolution · « **Reply #3908 on:** May 06, 2009, 11:57:30 PM »

He is still recognizing it just not holding an event. Though I'm sure FNC will have lots to say about it.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #3909 on:** May 07, 2009, 12:03:53 AM »

Quote from: Zero Hero on May 06, 2009, 11:57:30 PM

He is still recognizing it just not holding an event. Though I'm sure FNC will have lots to say about it.

Yea, he's going back to the way Reagan and HW Bush recognized it. Of course I'd imagine the media won't mention that tomorrow

Eric P · « **Reply #3910 on:** May 07, 2009, 02:31:24 PM »

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1896588,00.html

time has another "lost republican" article but it contains something rather funny

Quote

Samuel Wurzelbacher, better known as Joe the Plumber, tells TIME he's so outraged by GOP overspending, he's quitting the party — and he's the bull's-eye of its target audience. But he also said he wouldn't support any cuts in defense, Social Security, Medicare or Medicaid — which, along with debt payments, would put more than two-thirds of the budget off limits.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #3911 on:** May 07, 2009, 02:40:45 PM »

It's better to be unemployed than it is to be a gop shill.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

good riddance, cigarillo :israelcry

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Yeti · « **Reply #3912 on:** May 07, 2009, 04:10:41 PM »

It's kind of sad when Joe the Plumber leaves your party to grasp at relevancy.

HyperZoneWasAwesome · « **Reply #3913 on:** May 07, 2009, 04:26:00 PM »

through somewhat convoluted circumstances I ended up listening to the Micheal Savage show yesterday and it was the most entertaining talk radio I ever heard. I was laughing all the way through as Savage somehow kept topping himself on the narcissism scale.

for those who don't know, Micheal Savage has been banned from entering Britain because he's been place on a list of other undesirable hatemongers.

anyways for the entirety of his three hour program he spent it lashing out at the British politician ("That creature" he called her), making implicit threats against her, promising to ruin Britain's economy through his and his audience's boycott of British products, and somehow connecting the Obama administration to his banning in a whole nother country. He even heaped copious scorn against Fox News for not covering this tremendous scandal.

"I am the beacon of liberty!" I swear he actually said that.

Listen to his show today, I beg you, it will be worth it for the lulz. He'll still have enough vitriol to protest this for months. It was awesome yesterday and I'm guessing it will still be funny for months to come.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #3914 on:** May 07, 2009, 10:55:33 PM »

The British you say?!
http://larouchepac.com/

brawndolicious · « **Reply #3915 on:** May 07, 2009, 11:01:36 PM »

He's an attention whore, not a hate monger. He got Talker's magazine's freedom of speech award in 2007 for being the first conservative radio talk show host to really criticize Bush. Other recepients include O'Reilly, Hannity and Colmes, Rush, and Howard Stern. Which are all attention whores.

Banning him in Britain is idiotic and will probably just make him more popular here and abroad.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #3916 on:** May 07, 2009, 11:43:55 PM »

Michael Savage is not a hate monger? I'm guessing you've never listened to his show. Hannity may be a deceptive ass, but he's not on Savage's level.

huckleberry · « **Reply #3917 on:** May 08, 2009, 01:23:30 AM »

at least Michael Weiner (Savage) has some interesting talking points outside of his insane political spewing. Hannity is the douche that all other douches are measured against.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #3918 on:** May 08, 2009, 01:51:57 AM »

I'd say, if I made a scale, with "slight-SMH" being at the top and "full motion-SMH" being the bottom...

O'Reilly

Rush
Hannity

Beck

Savage

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #3919 on:** May 08, 2009, 02:07:01 AM »

It's good to know that I'm dealing with a smh relativist, Maurice.

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #3920 on:** May 08, 2009, 02:16:01 AM »

Quote from: am nintenho on May 07, 2009, 11:01:36 PM

He's an attention whore, not a hate monger.

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

Uh yeah, whatever.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #3921 on:** May 08, 2009, 02:16:34 AM »

Quote from: The Card Cheat on May 08, 2009, 02:07:01 AM

It's good to know that I'm dealing with a smh relativist, Maurice.

I strive to impress, Arian.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #3922 on:** May 08, 2009, 03:30:22 AM »

He might hate minorities and people that are on the other side of the aisle but he's not a hate monger. He doesn't sound manipulative to me, just loud. My guess is that the only reason he gets up in the morning isn't to make a difference in the world but to get his name mentioned a lot.

Being banned in Britain would just reflexively give him a little bit of public sympathy. Even banning his show would be going too far.

Mandark · « **Reply #3923 on:** May 08, 2009, 03:46:06 AM »

Quote from: am nintenho on May 08, 2009, 03:30:22 AM

He might hate minorities and people that are on the other side of the aisle but he's not a hate monger.

That guy over there sells a lot of fish, but he's no fishmonger.

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #3924 on:** May 08, 2009, 07:14:00 AM »

I have no idea why you're twisting yourself into Gordian knot levels of logic over friggin' Michael Savage. So weird.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #3925 on:** May 08, 2009, 09:20:33 AM »

He's AM NINTENHO. Twisting himself into absurd logic pretzels is what he does.

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #3926 on:** May 08, 2009, 09:35:59 AM »

April Jobs Report:

-539k
Unemployment 8.9%

Gubment +72k

March revised down to -699k from -663k
February revised down to -681k from -651k

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #3927 on:** May 08, 2009, 09:38:05 AM »

Well, I guess the good news is that you can say it's down from 600+k. Still sucks balls tho.

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #3928 on:** May 08, 2009, 10:41:15 AM »

Not really.

Gubment added 66k temporary census jobs. Plus the birth/death adjustment is interestingly high. Take those into account and its easily above 600k. Revisions will probably push it over 600k anyway though.

I believe the gubment is going to add over one million temporary census jobs over the next year too.

All ACORN members no doubt.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #3929 on:** May 08, 2009, 01:15:34 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on May 08, 2009, 03:46:06 AM

Quote from: am nintenho on May 08, 2009, 03:30:22 AM
He might hate minorities and people that are on the other side of the aisle but he's not a hate monger.

That guy over there sells a lot of fish, but he's no fishmonger.

Savage doesn't sell goods or services, he gives an opinion. The way he presents his opinion is so in-your-face that it won't actually influence anybody's views.

Martyring him will just make him raise his shtick and be more annoying in general.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #3930 on:** May 08, 2009, 01:23:48 PM »

Quote from: am nintenho on May 08, 2009, 01:15:34 PM

Quote from: Mandark on May 08, 2009, 03:46:06 AM
Quote from: am nintenho on May 08, 2009, 03:30:22 AM
He might hate minorities and people that are on the other side of the aisle but he's not a hate monger.

That guy over there sells a lot of fish, but he's no fishmonger.
Savage doesn't sell goods or services, he gives an opinion. The way he presents his opinion is so in-your-face that it won't actually influence anybody's views.

Martyring him will just make him raise his shtick and be more annoying in general.

David Duke gives opinions as well. Savage's comments about immigrants, Muslims, black people, gays etc are pure hate.

[youtube=560,345]baOE_pxHC6A[/youtube]

brawndolicious · « **Reply #3931 on:** May 08, 2009, 01:33:27 PM »

So?

I don't know if he actually sincerely hates those minorities but nobody's stupid enough to present their real biases in that way. His whole "opinion" is just a show that he does for a paycheck. People who actually hate minorities try to hide their biases and sound more moderate or at least sane.

Savage doesn't. Probably intentionally.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #3932 on:** May 08, 2009, 01:35:46 PM »

That guy sure does hate a lot of people, but he's not hatemonger.

Is that easier to understand? Probably not- you are AM NINTENHO, after all.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #3933 on:** May 08, 2009, 02:34:15 PM »

How are Savage's opinions any less inflammatory than the muslims on the British list? Because he isn't spewing hate about America?
Is Savage a religious man?

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #3934 on:** May 08, 2009, 03:17:13 PM »

I've seen a lot of stupid Right Wing Talking Points in my day

but Mustardgate may very well be the stupidest

SUMMARY: Barack Hussein Obama is an elitist because he likes Grey Poupon - spicy "Dijon mustard," French mustard - on his cheeseburgers instead of good American yellow French's (lol), like our founding fathers ate.

To quote a commenter at the HuffPo: "Grey Poupon is owned and manufactured by Kraft Foods. It is the processed cheese of mustards. It is the fucking Velveeta of faux-French products. Can we all shut the fuck up?"

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #3935 on:** May 08, 2009, 03:28:02 PM »

David Frum gets to the bottom of the mustard meme.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #3936 on:** May 08, 2009, 04:23:01 PM »

http://www.foodsacrossamerica.com/viennabeefhotdogkit.aspx

"And be forewarned - if you ask for ketchup, you’d better be under the age of twelve."

Eric P · « **Reply #3937 on:** May 08, 2009, 04:27:04 PM »

i don't really keep up with a lot of political minutia on the day to day so could someone link where this mustard thing started?

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #3938 on:** May 08, 2009, 04:29:24 PM »

Hannity attacks Obama for putting mustard on his burger:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/07/hannity-attacks-obama-for_n_198851.html

Obama mustard attack becomes full-blown right-wing talking point:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/08/obama-mustard-attack-beco_n_199953.html

Eric P · « **Reply #3939 on:** May 08, 2009, 04:39:05 PM »

get the fuck out

they have to be thinking of this because of the fucking "pardon me" commercials from the 80s

Cyanista · « **Reply #3940 on:** May 08, 2009, 04:39:28 PM »

I love mustard!

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #3941 on:** May 08, 2009, 04:45:02 PM »

I buy American-made Beaver Sweet Hot Mustard!

Meanwhile, President Obama betrays his fellow countrymen, demanding la moutarde.

Oblivion · « **Reply #3942 on:** May 08, 2009, 04:52:41 PM »

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on May 08, 2009, 04:23:01 PM

"And be forewarned - if you ask for ketchup, you’d better be under the age of twelve."

Obviously, I have zero problem with Obama getting mustard on his burgers, but I like ketchup, dang it.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #3943 on:** May 08, 2009, 04:58:28 PM »

one of the most epic threads in the history of GAF was between people who eat their steak without steak sauce and people who eat their steak like some kind of goddamned moral imbecile

Eric P · « **Reply #3944 on:** May 08, 2009, 05:01:57 PM »

my gf gets it well done and then adds sauce to it

i cry.

and the tears mix with my rare/medium rare steak

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #3945 on:** May 08, 2009, 05:10:42 PM »

blood is the only sauce a good steak needs

sanguinlicious

Eric P · « **Reply #3946 on:** May 08, 2009, 05:11:22 PM »

indeed

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #3947 on:** May 08, 2009, 05:15:58 PM »

Quote from: Eric P on May 08, 2009, 05:01:57 PM

and the tears mix with my rare/medium rare steak

has anyone invented the word lacrimaceration yet? if not, can I be the first

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #3948 on:** May 08, 2009, 07:48:42 PM »

MM is blowing this out of proportion, something they do all the time. Hannity brought it up as a joke - to label it an "attack" is ridiculous. The final segment of his show is always light hearted.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #3949 on:** May 08, 2009, 07:51:44 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on May 08, 2009, 07:48:42 PM

MM is blowing this out of proportion, something they do all the time. Hannity brought it up as a joke - to label it an "attack" is ridiculous. The final segment of his show is always light hearted.

Oh Christ, just stfu.

Saint Cornelius · « **Reply #3950 on:** May 08, 2009, 07:52:52 PM »

Quote from: Cyanista on May 08, 2009, 04:39:28 PM

I love mustard!

Mustard + cheetoes.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #3951 on:** May 08, 2009, 07:53:26 PM »

yes lets ignore the facts to get outraged over fake outrage

gtfo

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #3952 on:** May 08, 2009, 07:57:41 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on May 08, 2009, 07:53:26 PM

yes lets ignore the facts to get outraged over fake outrage

gtfo

Who the hell is outraged at their outrage? Pointing and laughing is more like it.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #3953 on:** May 08, 2009, 08:31:11 PM »

yawn

Anyway,

Quote

The total number of Americans who are not working full-time but ought to be is actually about 22 million, or 15.8 percent, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/economy-watch/2009/05/actual_us_unemployment_158.html

One of the most interesting things I learned about in early econ classes

edit:
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/05/horray-second-derivative-of.html

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #3954 on:** May 08, 2009, 08:32:32 PM »

Quote from: Eric P on May 08, 2009, 05:01:57 PM

my gf gets it well done and then adds sauce to it

i cry.

and the tears mix with my rare/medium rare steak

Better the shittiest cuts in the fridge go to someone that won't be able to taste it I guess.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #3955 on:** May 08, 2009, 08:41:08 PM »

Quote from: The Card Cheat on May 08, 2009, 01:35:46 PM

That guy sure does hate a lot of people, but he's not hatemonger.

I don't know, I'm assuming that a hatemonger is someone who can actually influence the public's opinion. That's like calling Howard Stern a pornmonger...

Quote from: Saint Cornelius on May 08, 2009, 07:52:52 PM

Mustard + cheetoes.

flaming hot cheetos with instant mashed potatoes was my meal for about a week. So good.

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #3956 on:** May 08, 2009, 08:41:48 PM »

This one joke that appeared at the end of the Hannity show became an ongoing right-wing meme that appeared throughout most right-wing shows (dunno about FoxNews). They were joking, but thought they were making a point their audience might actually care about. It's OK to call attention to the absurdity of this.

When it plays into the ongoing meme of Obama as the perfumed Aristocrat out of touch with the common man, when they're the one's who've been raping and pillaging them for years (stoping tax havens, outrageous!) it gets a bit more insidiuous.

But please keep expressing your high-mindedness through yawns.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #3957 on:** May 08, 2009, 08:49:26 PM »

Quote from: Mamacint on May 08, 2009, 08:41:48 PM

This one joke that appeared at the end of the Hannity show became an ongoing right-wing meme that appeared throughout most right-wing shows (dunno about FoxNews). They were joking, but thought they were making a point their audience might actually care about. It's OK to call attention to the absurdity of this.

When it plays into the ongoing meme of Obama as the perfumed Aristocrat out of touch with the common man, when they're the one's who've been raping and pillaging them for years (stoping tax havens, outrageous!) it gets a bit more insidiuous.

But please keep expressing your high-mindedness through yawns.

There's nothing high-minded about it, but I'll make sure to yawn again after this post. Guess what, what he did wasn't much different from what the Daily Show does every night - although of course it managed to be less funny, which is kinda impressive. And yea, the Daily Show is a comedy show on Comedy Central vs Fox being a news station but the point remains that it was nothing more than a light jab, which happened to touch on the dumb "out of touch" meme as you said.

Insidiuous? Seriously? yawn

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #3958 on:** May 08, 2009, 08:51:42 PM »

I can't tell if you're really clueless or just pretending to be clueless

so, good job on emulating your hero Hannity I guess

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #3959 on:** May 08, 2009, 08:54:40 PM »

Late 30's Maurice: "Guys, you're getting your panties in a bunch over nothing. This Benito Mussollini fellow is clearly jerking your chain!"

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