Author Topic: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT| (Read 1188682 times)

Pringo · « **Reply #5280 on:** January 17, 2014, 12:00:37 AM »

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=97410062#post97410062

Wii U ~481,000

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5281 on:** January 17, 2014, 12:09:42 AM »

Quote from: Pringo on January 17, 2014, 12:00:37 AM

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=97410062#post97410062

Wii U ~481,000

They almost got doubled by a console that costs 500 bucks.

Tasty · « **Reply #5282 on:** January 17, 2014, 12:11:21 AM »

Quote from: Pringo on January 17, 2014, 12:00:37 AM

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=97410062#post97410062

Wii U ~481,000

More than I thought at least.

Pringo · « **Reply #5283 on:** January 17, 2014, 12:17:48 AM »

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=97411511#post97411511

PS3 299,000

PS3 sales seem to be falling off really quickly.

MCD · « **Reply #5284 on:** January 17, 2014, 12:26:09 AM »

Tasty · « **Reply #5285 on:** January 17, 2014, 12:38:15 AM »

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=97367510&postcount=407

Wii U's best month.

Momentum™.

Also 3DS best selling for December and all of 2013, called it. Pokemon would deffo be in NPDs if the versions were combined, I reckon...

Himu · « **Reply #5286 on:** January 17, 2014, 12:40:06 AM »

3ds was my most played system of 2013. Well deserved.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #5287 on:** January 17, 2014, 01:32:58 AM »

palpatine good, good pic, etc etc

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5288 on:** January 17, 2014, 01:34:16 AM »

Quote

Nintendo Cuts Forecasts to Loss of 25B Yen From 55B Yen Profit

Quote

In the year-end sales season which constitutes the highest proportion of the annual sales volume, software sales
with a relatively high margin were significantly lower than our original forecasts mainly due to the fact that
hardware sales did not reach their expected level. As a result, the total of selling, general and administrative
expenses will surpass gross profit, which leads to an operating loss.
The reason why we will post ordinary income despite the operating loss situation is that we now assume that
the yen will be weaker than our original assumptions at the beginning of the fiscal year, which results in foreign
exchange gains.
On the other hand, we expect to post a net loss because we need to reverse deferred tax assets in relation to the
losses carried over from the previous fiscal years mainly in the United States, as we can no longer expect our
financial performance to recover in the current fiscal year.
Exchange rate assumptions for the fourth financial quarter as well as for the end of the full fiscal year have
been revised from 90 yen to 100 yen per U.S. dollar, and from 120 yen to 140 yen per euro in consideration of
the recent exchange rate situation

Nintendo expects 2.8 million Wii-U sales down from 9 million.
Nintendo expects 13.5 million 3DS sales down from 19.5 million.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-17/nintendo-forecasts-net-loss-on-stagnating-sales-of-wii-u-games.html
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/17/us-nintendo-earnings-idUSBREA0G09M20140117
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2014/140117e.pdf

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5289 on:** January 17, 2014, 01:55:30 AM »

I'll be interested in the long term effects. Will this be enough to spur them to actually try to change anything significantly to improve things for the future. I mean real actual change and not just another band-aid. Because the current future prospects and trajectory are not looking good.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #5290 on:** January 17, 2014, 01:57:32 AM »

I don't think they'd know what to do or how to do it, so it really doesn't matter.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5291 on:** January 17, 2014, 02:03:20 AM »

Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on January 17, 2014, 01:57:32 AM

I don't think they'd know what to do or how to do it, so it really doesn't matter.

We'll I'd agree because they would have already done it, but forecasts like that and their bleak console outlook and the tough competition they will increasingly face on the handheld side should be scary enough for them to be open to a different approach. I mean this whole Wii U debacle everybody and his brother saw from a mile away.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #5292 on:** January 17, 2014, 02:04:52 AM »

So PS4 sales are only 50k behind xbone while being completely sold out?

Poor MS bet on the wrong shit yet again.

Nintendo should be fine when heavy hitters like bayo 2 and x come out.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #5293 on:** January 17, 2014, 02:10:34 AM »

US:
PS4: 2 million
Xbox One:1,817,000

UK:
PS4: 530,000
Xbox One: 364,000

Spain:
PS4:157,000
Xbox One:35,000

France:
PS4:100k *first 2 weeks
Xbox One 50k* first 3 weeks*

AU:
Xbox One:65,917*first 3 days*

Germany:
PS4 250K
Xbox One 100K

pilonv1 · « **Reply #5294 on:** January 17, 2014, 02:11:16 AM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 17, 2014, 01:44:47 AM

can't wait for Fire Emblem on a Steam Sale

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5295 on:** January 17, 2014, 02:16:28 AM »

Quote

Nintendo President Satoshi Iwata will hold a news conference at 4:30 p.m. (0730 GMT) in Osaka regarding the estimated losses.

Now there's a "Nintendo Direct" I actually want to watch.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #5296 on:** January 17, 2014, 02:22:22 AM »

Iwata gone.

Wii u price drop.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #5297 on:** January 17, 2014, 02:22:55 AM »

Hopefully this really does mean the end of itprintsmoney.gif

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #5298 on:** January 17, 2014, 02:43:11 AM »

So even more mario and zelda?

They will run their ips further into the ground

Tasty · « **Reply #5299 on:** January 17, 2014, 03:02:44 AM »

Disney keeps trying every couple years to get a leg up on gaming but they always finish after a few weak humps and give up. Next time they could just buy Nintendo.

Then we'd have Mario in Kingdom Hearts.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #5300 on:** January 17, 2014, 03:03:31 AM »

Star Wars Mario World.

Darth Wario.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #5301 on:** January 17, 2014, 03:10:53 AM »

Quote from: Lagerless on January 17, 2014, 02:04:52 AM

Nintendo should be fine when heavy hitters like bayo 2 and x come out.

Son, you have gone full distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #5302 on:** January 17, 2014, 03:46:17 AM »

Its funded by Nintendo so I don't think so.

Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on January 17, 2014, 03:10:53 AM

Quote from: Lagerless on January 17, 2014, 02:04:52 AM
Nintendo should be fine when heavy hitters like bayo 2 and x come out.

Son, you have gone full distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.

Not sure if you're serious or just double bluffing my troll.

SantaC · « **Reply #5303 on:** January 17, 2014, 04:05:54 AM »

Quote from: Lagerless on January 17, 2014, 02:43:11 AM

So even more mario and zelda?

They will run their ips further into the ground

remember how special it was with a new Mario and Zelda game? Now not so much. That's because Nintendo usually took their sweet time working on their new game, now they just fart them out. Atleast the Mario games.

cool breeze · « **Reply #5304 on:** January 17, 2014, 04:08:40 AM »

will the definitive edition of smash bros u be on ps4/xb1 or will nintendo also publish on pc?

SantaC · « **Reply #5305 on:** January 17, 2014, 04:13:55 AM »

Quote from: fryinghigh on January 17, 2014, 04:08:40 AM

will the definitive edition of smash bros u be on ps4/xb1 or will nintendo also publish on pc?

one less platform to buy? Sign me up.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #5306 on:** January 17, 2014, 04:34:19 AM »

Maybe someone will port it and make it a PSN/XBL game?

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #5307 on:** January 17, 2014, 04:43:05 AM »

No Bayonetta in the west would make for a saltmine on GAF, prob more fun then playing the game

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #5308 on:** January 17, 2014, 04:52:34 AM »

At least Sega went out with the Dreamcast.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #5309 on:** January 17, 2014, 05:08:06 AM »

I still feel blue for not buying the dc, but sega lost credit with me after the saturn which was my first 32 bit system.

Sure it was great, but it really had too little support and it was impossible to find games in Holland for it as shops dropped it.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #5310 on:** January 17, 2014, 05:19:30 AM »

Sega Rally is probably the pinnacle of the arcade racing game genre, Daytona (CCE) was no slouch either.

Remember playing those tracks to DEATH to improve my times.

I don't want to sound like a nostalgia tard, but 32 bit gen is my favourite, not that I would want to play those games now though. Although I do live the online aspect we got in the 128 bit gen and that matured now (and was on PC already since 2000).

radioheadrule83 · « **Reply #5311 on:** January 17, 2014, 06:43:45 AM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on January 17, 2014, 01:55:30 AM

I'll be interested in the long term effects. Will this be enough to spur them to actually try to change anything significantly to improve things for the future. I mean real actual change and not just another band-aid. Because the current future prospects and trajectory are not looking good.

Part of me wonders why they deliberately left it this late to revise down HW sale expectations, I don't believe for a minute that they really thought Christmas through March would bring them 6m+ sales. Maybe they did but I dunno. The cynic / conspiracy theorist in me says they never did really want to spend the money required (this financial year) to turn Wii U around, they took a bath on 3DS just last year. Its never really had proper advertising in the sense that former consoles have, they seemed to care more about 3DS (which I imagine brings in more profit long term, providing they can continue to boost that business)... My gut is starting to say that they've seen a buyback or something down the road (Yamauchi family shares?), wanted to change strategy anyway, and are using bad results to deliberately drive the price down and justify some seismic change.

One area where I think they've really fucked up in the last year is just assuming their old retail partners would want to keep carrying their stuff. Its one thing to think you can do without the likes of EA (crazy in itself), but its quite another to expect shops to sit on shit-loads of inventory and not reduce your shelf-space to a square metre. I think NCL is really too far removed from what's going on in Europe too. They are disappearing from the UK retail scene completely, and there is no way online shops or digital sales can pick up the slack.

If this forces some diversification and some inventive new ideas from them, all the better we'll be for it.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #5312 on:** January 17, 2014, 06:44:06 AM »

Good online.

Rainbow Six and Midtown Madness Xbox

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #5313 on:** January 17, 2014, 06:56:03 AM »

Nintendo's solution: MOAR MARIO

I said in a different thread elsewhere but if you love Mario, the Wii U is going to be the system for you. At least that means we might be more likely to get Galaxy 3. I wouldn't be too shocked if we get Sunshine HD and Mario 64 HD. The latter sold 10 million on DS, they can probably rope 2-3 million people to get a HD release of the game.

archie4208 · « **Reply #5314 on:** January 17, 2014, 06:58:06 AM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 17, 2014, 12:48:47 AM

so, yeah, hardware numbers only saw a minor rise from last year in spite of the two extra consoles, and software is down. and last year wasn't any prize pig, either.

dumed.

Now is a good time to install Steam if you haven't already.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #5315 on:** January 17, 2014, 07:01:03 AM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 17, 2014, 02:42:07 AM

Quote from: pilonv1 on January 17, 2014, 02:11:16 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 17, 2014, 01:44:47 AM
can't wait for Fire Emblem on a Steam Sale

pff, my prediction entails nintendo moving to a market with cheaper games with low budget and iterative sequels making tons of cash.

your way requires them to understand the overseas market and make HD games that can run on a variety of configurations and have proper internet functionality.

i'm betting on oscar here.

I never said that's what they would do, it's what I'd like them to do.

Third · « **Reply #5316 on:** January 17, 2014, 07:25:12 AM »

Damn, Ps4 is still the best selling nextgen console in the NA. Even being severely supply constrained.

January should be terrible for MS. The demand isn't there anymore and we should expect a lot of returned Xbox U consoles from burned scalpers.

MS should reduce the price asap.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #5317 on:** January 17, 2014, 08:24:16 AM »

There are better things to repost from GAF Borys

radioheadrule83 · « **Reply #5318 on:** January 17, 2014, 09:16:57 AM »

Quote from: Exodust SoulBurn on January 17, 2014, 09:12:44 AM

POLACK FIGHT

Tasty · « **Reply #5319 on:** January 17, 2014, 10:08:12 AM »

Quote from: Mary Tyler Whore on January 17, 2014, 06:56:03 AM

Nintendo's solution: MOAR MARIO

I said in a different thread elsewhere but if you love Mario, the Wii U is going to be the system for you. At least that means we might be more likely to get Galaxy 3. I wouldn't be too shocked if we get Sunshine HD and Mario 64 HD. The latter sold 10 million on DS, they can probably rope 2-3 million people to get a HD release of the game.

The Mario stuff has felt stale for a while, basically ever since Galaxy 2. SM3DL, NSMB2, NSMBU, and SM3DW all within two years? I love Mario platformers more than the average Joe but even I think it's too much.

Now, Twilight Princess HD? The thought of that is boner inducing.

Himu · « **Reply #5320 on:** January 17, 2014, 10:36:00 AM »

Dremacast is Sega's best console with its best first party games. Saturn is great, but most of its library requires imports. That single handedly cripples it and takes it down a few notches. Saturn is above Genesis however. The problem with DC is that every game on the system aside from a very short list were ported. Thus making it have little value these days. Saturn has much more value in 2014.

Himu · « **Reply #5321 on:** January 17, 2014, 11:23:52 AM »

And proud!

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #5322 on:** January 17, 2014, 11:31:43 AM »

The Dreamcast has better 1st party titles, but Saturn has some killer 1st party and is godly for the amount of 3rd party games.

Also, importing is easy and should not discredit the system.

Himu · « **Reply #5323 on:** January 17, 2014, 11:37:10 AM »

I think the better first party titles puts it ahead the third party titles. That said, Saturn does have great third party. But I prefer the first party of the DC.

And I don't think Importing discredits Saturn, but like, you're talking about hardware, and the person admits that you need to import from another country to get the full experience, it kind of takes away from the argument, no? I can't think of any other system where people say,"_____ is best _____, but only if you import." Gauging hardware just doesn't work like that and Saturn is the lone exception. Other systems stand on their own merits of localized software. Basically, importing should ENHANCE a systems library. It shouldn't be required to actually enjoy it.

Tasty · « **Reply #5324 on:** January 17, 2014, 01:02:54 PM »

Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate - 93K (Wii U)
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate - 224K (3DS)

MH3U sold 317,000 copies in America this year. Considering that doesn't count digital, I don't think that's too bad. It's probably slightly less than half of Tri's US LTD, although I don't know if it got there on strong legs or what.

Then again, Ultimate is on two systems while Tri wasn't, which is a knock against the sales. I'm not sure it would have sold better on any other combination of two systems, though.

hampster · « **Reply #5325 on:** January 17, 2014, 01:25:45 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 17, 2014, 05:09:19 AM

Saturn was their best console. If it didn't appeal to you, I question your alleged SEGA fan credentials.

The Toy r Us guy talked me out of a Saturn and into getting a PS1 back in the day. I often wonder how different my life would have been if I stuck to my sega fandom. But the 32X hurt and at the time I didn't want to forgive...

Himu · « **Reply #5326 on:** January 17, 2014, 01:27:54 PM »

I was talked out of Saturn too. Nomad

32x

Game Gear

hampster · « **Reply #5327 on:** January 17, 2014, 01:31:00 PM »

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on January 17, 2014, 01:27:54 PM

I was talked out of Saturn too. Nomad 32x Game Gear

I won't let anyone talk shit about the game gear

I played that baby until the light blub burned out, then I opened it up and shoved a flashlight in there and kept going

spoiler (click to show/hide)

99% of my time with it was the tv tuner $:-\$

[close]

Himu · « **Reply #5328 on:** January 17, 2014, 01:34:24 PM »

I had GG before GB and GG was okay. Sonic games sucked except..uh...Triple Trouble? I had an X-men game on GG. It sucked balls. Outrun Game Gear kicked ass. Outrun Europa Game Gear, holy shit kill me. Fatal Fury Game Gear is probably still the best portable fighting game I've played though. GG was only tolerable because as kids, we didn't have as defined tastes. But going through 3ds VC list, jesus christ.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #5329 on:** January 17, 2014, 01:36:01 PM »

I sold the Nomad I bought for $50 on a Toys 'R Us clearance for a crazy profit on ebay a few years back. I want to say I got like $250 for it and a handful of games.

Himu · « **Reply #5330 on:** January 17, 2014, 01:40:57 PM »

My friend had a nomad. by the time 1997 rolled around people with saturns were laughed at. I didn't want to be laughed at.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #5331 on:** January 17, 2014, 01:41:39 PM »

If you had to choose between the two, PS1 was the way to go.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #5332 on:** January 17, 2014, 01:44:33 PM »

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on January 17, 2014, 01:40:57 PM

My friend had a nomad. by the time 1997 rolled around people with saturns were laughed at. I didn't want to be laughed at.

You didn't miss much. Battery life was terrible (like 1.5 hours max), screen was a ghosting blurry mess. I think I played with it for a total of about 4 hours before I threw it back in the box and it went into the closet until I checked ebay and found out it was worth actual money.

Himu · « **Reply #5333 on:** January 17, 2014, 01:51:38 PM »

I played his Nomad twice, and I thought it was heavy as shit for a handheld especially with a genny cart in it.

Raban · « **Reply #5334 on:** January 17, 2014, 01:55:23 PM »

"Nomad" still has to be the best name for a portable gaming system, even though the Sega Nomad really stretched the definition of "portable".

cool breeze · « **Reply #5335 on:** January 17, 2014, 01:55:56 PM »

I had a friend who kept his nomad hooked up to his TV

tbh the idea was cool at the time to those of us with the gameboy but no one wanted it. you always had that one friend in your group who'd buy these weirder systems. one friend tried to sell me on an atari lynx.

Third · « **Reply #5336 on:** January 17, 2014, 01:56:56 PM »

Xbox1 908k
Ps4 865k

MS barely outsold a supply constrained console....

Himu · « **Reply #5337 on:** January 17, 2014, 01:57:32 PM »

I remember when sega was trying to market comix zone and nomad at the same time. How did Comix Zone sell in comparison to the Nomad?

Quote from: fryinghigh on January 17, 2014, 01:55:56 PM

I had a friend who kept his nomad hooked up to his TV

tbh the idea was cool at the time to those of us with the gameboy but no one wanted it. you always had that one friend in your group who'd buy these weirder systems. one friend tried to sell me on an atari lynx.

One kid got a Virtual Boy and brought it recess once.

Emphasis on once.

cool breeze · « **Reply #5338 on:** January 17, 2014, 02:04:38 PM »

every kid had a virtual boy at some point. you could pick it up for ~$50 with games during the fire sales and it became the gift of choice.

Himu · « **Reply #5339 on:** January 17, 2014, 02:05:59 PM »

Every kid haha. I was concentrating on game boy by then. game boy pocket

News:

Author Topic: Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT| (Read 1188682 times)