FitnessBore - 2018 edition

[Kara]

Is the bare minimum for a man really 1,800 calories? That's so many calories I don't want to eat atm.

[TakingBackSunday]

The red meat is moreso to avoid high cholesterol which runs in my family -- I'm at higher risk for heart disease based on family history.

I'm eating some big ass sammiches at lunch, but yeah, can definitely cut down on the beer.

[Mupepe]

The red meat is moreso to avoid high cholesterol which runs in my family -- I'm at higher risk for heart disease based on family history.

I'm eating some big ass sammiches at lunch, but yeah, can definitely cut down on the beer.

Dietary cholesterol has pretty much no correlation with cholesterol levels in the blood.  That's based on activity levels and genetics.  The theory that red meat, eggs and whatever else causes high cholesterol levels has been pretty much debunked.  To each their own, but you're basically depriving yourself of some good food for no real reason. 

Also, make sure those sammiches are made of quality meats.  Your average deli meats from your grocery store are absolutely crap and pretty worthless as far as nutrition goes.

[Mupepe]

Is the bare minimum for a man really 1,800 calories? That's so many calories I don't want to eat atm.

No idea.  I'm not a man.  I'm a beast.

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Real answer: it varies for everyone based on their build and activity level.  You'll only find your minimum by counting calories and tweaking your diet until you find a "maintenance" spot.

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[Kara]

Thanks.

The only thing I'm maintaining atm is my road to emaciation. (1300-1500 calories on a day I don't go to a bar.)

[TakingBackSunday]

The red meat is moreso to avoid high cholesterol which runs in my family -- I'm at higher risk for heart disease based on family history.

I'm eating some big ass sammiches at lunch, but yeah, can definitely cut down on the beer.

Dietary cholesterol has pretty much no correlation with cholesterol levels in the blood.  That's based on activity levels and genetics.  The theory that red meat, eggs and whatever else causes high cholesterol levels has been pretty much debunked.  To each their own, but you're basically depriving yourself of some good food for no real reason. 

Also, make sure those sammiches are made of quality meats.  Your average deli meats from your grocery store are absolutely crap and pretty worthless as far as nutrition goes.

Good to know, I'll be sure to get some steaks!

And I buy the best meats available at the local farmers market.  Not fucking around there.

[Mupepe]

Thanks.

The only thing I'm maintaining atm is my road to emaciation. (1300-1500 calories on a day I don't go to a bar.)

I would die with that little of food. Probably because I would off myself! Cutting with 2600 calories is torture for me.

[TakingBackSunday]

I'm getting around 2100 a day I believe.

[Mupepe]

have you counted recently?  guessing is really difficult unless you make all your own food and eat a lot of the same things.  We also tend to either lower or raise our estimates based on whatever our current goals are.  It's always good to just measure for a week or so every once in a while.

[Kara]

I would die with that little of food. Probably because I would off myself! Cutting with 2600 calories is torture for me.

I usually do a meal a day with 2 servings of nutrient gruel for breakfast and lunch. You get used to it.

Today's pretty shit though, I'm sitting at 400 calories and it's almost 19:00. Shoulda had a real lunch.

[Mupepe]

Good lord!!

[Kara]

I don't believe in karma Esch, but I feel like your existence is recompense for every time I've said all art is political in retort to someone saying they didn't like a piece of art because it was political.

On a related note, a capitalist complimented me on the progress I've made with my emaciation today.

[Kara]

I laugh at it breh, don't feel .

[TakingBackSunday]

have you counted recently?  guessing is really difficult unless you make all your own food and eat a lot of the same things.  We also tend to either lower or raise our estimates based on whatever our current goals are.  It's always good to just measure for a week or so every once in a while.

I counted last week

[chronovore]

Serious question: I frequently feel more wiped out and sluggish during the first third or half of my cardio efforts on an elliptical, which seems to ease up a lot once I'm sweating like crazy -- it actually feels much easier than the outset. Why is that? It seems counterintuitive.

[Mupepe]

Serious question: I frequently feel more wiped out and sluggish during the first third or half of my cardio efforts on an elliptical, which seems to ease up a lot once I'm sweating like crazy -- it actually feels much easier than the outset. Why is that? It seems counterintuitive.

Are you warming up properly?  That's how I feel on weights when I don't warm up properly.  The first set or two is really difficult. 

[chronovore]

I stretch pretty thoroughly, and the resistance in the  first third is weak compared to the later portion. So... yeah, I think that counts as a warm up?

[Mupepe]

Then that sounds about right to me.  The blood isn't quite flowing to those areas yet making oxygen delivery difficult.  So after your warm up (your first third of your workout I guess) everything is pumping and delivering the way it should making it less strenuous.  You can get the blood pumping by making sure your stretches are dynamic and doing some body weight lower body exercises like some air squats. 

[Kara]

Apparently my diet is very potassium deficient. Based white blood pressure is nice, but I think I'll be eating more spinach.

[El Babua]

I lost grip coming down on my final heavy deadlift rep and the bar bounce busted my thumb. XD

[Kara]

I'm at negative calorie intake on the day as of now.

[jakefromstatefarm]

Hit a pr of 205 on bench a couple days back.

Dap me brehs.

[Mupepe]

2 plates will be yours in no time

[jakefromstatefarm]

2 plates will be yours in no time

That's the plan! I hover around 150 and my goal's always been 1.5x my body weight (as well as just doing something physical so I don't hate myself ) so it being within spitting distance is kinda freaky. School starts in a week and I'm dreading the impending student diet that inevitably ensues. The mass, the strength that's been garnered thanks to eating hot breakfasts (eggs! ) for 3 straight months , goodnight, sweet prince. #karakand

[Mupepe]

I assume you're on a school meal plan? Lots of guys have written articles on how to make gains with meal plans. I honestly can't vouch for any since I have never done the college thing but its worth a look

[DCharlieJP]

3 weeks in - back below 70kg - signed up for Tokyo Marathon. It's on.

[Momo]

hmm thats a bit low

[Rufus]

Without knowing his height there's no way to tell.

[Momo]

I dont imagine he is smaller than me which is closer to manlet than scandanavian god

[Rufus]

And now you've wedged him into a micro-agression corner.

[Momo]

But I love senpai, he's so kawaii when he is tsundere

[Momo]

My face when my judo sparring partner is  110kg blue belt that ranks second to the commonwealth silver medalist nationally.

[Squiddy]

Deadlifts are better than sex.

[Mupepe]

Deadlifts are better than sex.

Obviously.

I hit 10 sets of 1 @ 295 lbs on bench press.  I took 60-180 second rests in between sets.  It was MUCH harder than 285 was 3 weeks ago. 

[DCharlieJP]

Momo - i am only 167cm tall - according to my Japanese medical result my -target- weight should be 61kg... NO way is that ever happening. I have been as low as 64kg in recent years and as high as 84kg when i first got to Japan.

The weight isn't that important - just want to get fitter and stop bad habits like X day booze binges lol

but yeah - two 12km runs in two days - circa 1 hr 05 today. Getting easier but still slow.

[Boogie]

The weight isn't that important - just want to get fitter and stop bad habits like X day booze binges lol

As I recall, a couple years ago, you had quite the crazy-long boozeless streak going.  When did that end?  (and how long did it end up lasting?)

[T-Short]

Momo - i am only 167cm tall - according to my Japanese medical result my -target- weight should be 61kg... NO way is that ever happening. I have been as low as 64kg in recent years and as high as 84kg when i first got to Japan.

The weight isn't that important - just want to get fitter and stop bad habits like X day booze binges lol

but yeah - two 12km runs in two days - circa 1 hr 05 today. Getting easier but still slow.

Jesus fuck. Below 70 is science fiction for me. I'm on the 5:2 diet right now and have lost about 4kg in 4 weeks, but got a loooong way to go haha.

[T-Short]

After capoeira today. Still around 80kg, but coming down.

[TakingBackSunday]

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[Momo]

Hyoushi's man hairs

[bud]

have you counted recently?  guessing is really difficult unless you make all your own food and eat a lot of the same things.  We also tend to either lower or raise our estimates based on whatever our current goals are.  It's always good to just measure for a week or so every once in a while.

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/ is ideal for that. their app is even better (you can just scan your foods, and most of the time, it'll recognise it).

[TakingBackSunday]

I've been using that the last three weeks.  I'm cutting my calorie intake to 1800 to try and get to my goal weight of 156 by the end of September.

[Mupepe]

Hit 315 on bench today, just like I promised.  I also have a video just like I promised.  I'll post it tonight when I get home.  For anyone who's on my Facebook it's posted there.

[Mupepe]

Video Bros:
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=4BF70B99D7C2E7B0!1431&authkey=!vU5rQqwM8eA%24&ithint=video%2cmp4

[Momo]

Mupeppers

[DCharlieJP]

well, the running is rubbing off on my futsal game - last game could be described in one word : dominance

Anyways -

As I recall, a couple years ago, you had quite the crazy-long boozeless streak going.  When did that end?  (and how long did it end up lasting?)

boozeless wise - i've had one spell of a year off, followed by a 4 month spell back on, then a year and a half or so off, then a few months on, now a month off.

To be honest, i used to love drinking - but i just plays havoc with me these days. I don't miss it either

[chronovore]

Momo - i am only 167cm tall - according to my Japanese medical result my -target- weight should be 61kg... NO way is that ever happening. I have been as low as 64kg in recent years and as high as 84kg when i first got to Japan.

The weight isn't that important - just want to get fitter and stop bad habits like X day booze binges lol

but yeah - two 12km runs in two days - circa 1 hr 05 today. Getting easier but still slow.

Yeah, I remember when I was 26, first living in Japan, everyone told me I was too skinny. They could see all my ribs, and tried to get me to eat more food. I weighed 76 kg at 175 cm.

I remember a health check a few years back where they told me that I should weigh 72 kg, and I just barked laughter at them uncontrollably. I could arguably get all the way back down to 76, but the only way I could hit 72 would be to chop off my head.

But then I'd be shorter, and they'd tell me I had to be 64 or something.

[TakingBackSunday]

I'm at 158 lbs y'all!

[Kara]

Had to buy a new belt.

Many more new notches to climb up now.

[Oblivion]

Why is this thread no longer stickied?


Anyway, so I need some advice. My membership with L.A. fitness expired a week or two ago, but it's okay cause I'll be going to my college's gym (for way cheaper). Unfortunately, I also had the genius idea to take classes to finish up my degree, so with that plus work I don't have much time to actually go to the gym. Right now I only have one day, Thursday, that I can go during the week days, and Saturday and Sunday.

Is there a workout that I can do with this particular schedule?

[Mupepe]

I would still do something like Strong lifts or starting strength. You'll be okay. I think some people put way too much emphasis on following programs exactly as written. You just may not be getting the full benefit but thats usually how life works. You've been lifting long enough that you can tweak a solid program to your needs based on how you feel. Just dont change the fundamentals.

[Mupepe]

In other news I am 255 lbs. Its time for a real cut. I gained about 30 lbs since April or so and while it has helped my strength I am really damn fat now. I'm not gonna try to be 10% bf or anything but I just need to keep it in check somewhat. The gains though... So demonic

[Kara]

Why is this thread no longer stickied?

Bizus Christ died for its sins. :'(

[Mupepe]

eh this thread has little to no activity most weeks (even before The Biz left) so I'm not surprised.

[Beezy]

This thread died when Cormac left. At least he's still active on twitter.

[Oblivion]

I would still do something like Strong lifts or starting strength. You'll be okay. I think some people put way too much emphasis on following programs exactly as written. You just may not be getting the full benefit but thats usually how life works. You've been lifting long enough that you can tweak a solid program to your needs based on how you feel. Just dont change the fundamentals.

Very well then.

[chronovore]

My weight seems to have stabilized just under 92kg, and I'm becoming OK with that. I've started MyFitnessPal on my phone though, and it is somewhat helpful to have reminders to register my meals pop up.

Nothing makes it more clear how snacks put me over my daily calorie allotment than seeing my numbers all line up, even coming in UNDER 2K kilocalories, and then realize, "Oh, wait. I had that soda. And those chips. And that charsiu bao... HEY, what happened to my numbers?!?!"

[Mupepe]

Ha. Yeah. Its so easy to forget about. I always get the question "oh that counts?" 

[Kara]

My favorite is adding booze to my calorie counts, especially when I'm drinking in lieu of dinner.