Author Topic: The NBA thread (Read 1510465 times)

etiolate · « **Reply #19080 on:** June 29, 2017, 12:15:49 AM »

I think the Clips should let Blake go and trade DJ for picks. They're asset cupboard is pretty low and Doc has Jamal Crawford signed into his Big Three career years.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #19081 on:** June 29, 2017, 12:48:23 PM »

Seems like the Kings have a nice core now, no Etoilet? Vlade falling into semi-success or am I misreading things.

etiolate · « **Reply #19082 on:** June 29, 2017, 12:52:03 PM »

When they traded Cousins, I ditched them.

Never trust that organization to do something right. They've stumbled into good things before and then screwed it up within a year. Their legacy is constantly rebuilding before they even built something. If the Sixers were The Process then the Kings are The Foundation Pit.

benjipwns · « **Reply #19083 on:** June 29, 2017, 03:42:17 PM »

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Melo willing to accept buyout to go to Cavs. Stephen A. Smith reports the latest regarding Carmelo Anthony's ongoing contract negotiations with the Knicks.

benjipwns · « **Reply #19084 on:** June 29, 2017, 05:16:59 PM »

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19758988/zach-lowe-chris-paul-james-harden-running-houston-rockets-nba

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CP3-Harden Rockets coming for Warriors juggernaut
Zach Lowe looks at what went wrong for the Clippers and whether Chris Paul can raise the Rockets' ceiling.

benjipwns · « **Reply #19085 on:** June 30, 2017, 12:10:12 AM »

Mandark, why didn't you tell me Matt Taibbi tried to write an article explaining the NBA Draft: http://www.rollingstone.com/sports/features/taibbi-the-nba-draft-decoded-w489212

And to think how much I pay per month for your services.

bluemax · « **Reply #19086 on:** June 30, 2017, 03:22:55 AM »

Quote from: Stro on June 29, 2017, 10:23:25 PM

CP3/Harden/PG13 doesn't seem like a good fit to me. Although Harden is the issue to me in any combination you have those three together.

CP3/Harden is such a bad combo for compatibility reasons. Like Harden flourished when he got away from a ball dominant guard in Westbrook and now he's back to playing alongside another ball dominant guard. I'm kinda surprised that such an analytical org as the Rockets would do this.

benjipwns · « **Reply #19087 on:** June 30, 2017, 05:22:33 AM »

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Former Cavs GM David Griffin been in touch with the Knicks and will be among the franchise's initial interviews

why not

Fifstar · « **Reply #19088 on:** June 30, 2017, 08:53:32 AM »

Quote from: bluemax on June 30, 2017, 03:22:55 AM

Quote from: Stro on June 29, 2017, 10:23:25 PM
CP3/Harden/PG13 doesn't seem like a good fit to me. Although Harden is the issue to me in any combination you have those three together.

CP3/Harden is such a bad combo for compatibility reasons. Like Harden flourished when he got away from a ball dominant guard in Westbrook and now he's back to playing alongside another ball dominant guard. I'm kinda surprised that such an analytical org as the Rockets would do this.

They're both dominant, but they still have a very different playstyle, no? Seems to me that there was much more overlap in playstyle and abilities Westbrook and Harden than there is between Paul and Harden.

Of course it's still a gamble but unless teams are willing to risk something (and players like Harden are willing to change a bit) they won't stand a chance against the warriors or cavs in the next couple of years anyway.

etiolate · « **Reply #19089 on:** June 30, 2017, 12:44:07 PM »

Paul and Harden do have different styles, with both styles being ball dominant.

D'Antoni's system is its own style though and I'm not sure how many dominant ball handlers on the court at the same time it can accommodate. Don't know if one of them will just spot up shoot without the ball or what. Will it be 7 seconds or less or will it be 7 seconds unless Paul has the ball and wants to do called plays.

benjipwns · « **Reply #19090 on:** June 30, 2017, 02:15:11 PM »

Pelicans are going to give Jrue Holiday $170 million over five years.

They realize they have to pay Davis and Boogie right?

And the Gordon Hayward stuff is kinda weird to me. Part of me would sorta rather get say Milsap on three years for cheaper than get Hayward for a max contract. Guess it depends on what team.

Apparently the Nets are considering using one of those poison-pill style max offers on Otto Porter or KCP.

Blake apparently going to talk to Phoenix before the Clips. All the Clippers stories have this constant hinting about something involving Austin Rivers happening last season that I must have missed but did not please the vets.

etiolate · « **Reply #19091 on:** June 30, 2017, 03:53:24 PM »

I like Holiday and players like Holiday but he has major injury issues. If he had stayed healthy, he'd probably be in Mike Conley range.

Going to be crazy once it hits midnight est. The first contracts are always the overpaid middle tier guys that make everyone do spittakes.

etiolate · « **Reply #19092 on:** June 30, 2017, 04:39:33 PM »

The Chandler Parsons contract is pretty bad. Curious what the Grizz will do about it. It's not just that he's always hurt. I am not sure he's all that good anymore.

etiolate · « **Reply #19093 on:** June 30, 2017, 05:05:07 PM »

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/880889629402124289

https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/880894792321847296

Minny is obviously chasing a FA point guard then.

Mandark · « **Reply #19094 on:** June 30, 2017, 09:00:10 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on June 30, 2017, 02:15:11 PM

Pelicans are going to give Jrue Holiday $170 million over five years.

They realize they have to pay Davis and Boogie right?

A soft cap, Bird rights, and the Ajinca/Asik contracts basically paint them into that corner.

He's the only PG they'd be able to pay more than ~$11 million so there's no simple way to upgrade if they let him walk. Same dynamic as the Kanter and Tristan Thompson contracts.

etiolate · « **Reply #19095 on:** June 30, 2017, 09:52:37 PM »

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/880965916351229953

Well that changes things.

bluemax · « **Reply #19096 on:** June 30, 2017, 11:06:48 PM »

Blake back to the Clippers for the max. Now they need to get a bunch of wings who can shoot and defend.

So same as every year really.

benjipwns · « **Reply #19097 on:** June 30, 2017, 11:29:12 PM »

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Rockets reach an agreement with Nene on a four year, $15 million contract

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #19098 on:** June 30, 2017, 11:34:21 PM »

Paul George to OKC makes no goddamned sense

edit: reading Lowe's reaction to it, it still doesn't make sense to me. PG13 is just going to lose in the second round of the playoffs, again.

etiolate · « **Reply #19099 on:** July 01, 2017, 12:50:22 AM »

OKC turned Serge Ibaka into Paul George, so I wouldn't complain.

etiolate · « **Reply #19100 on:** July 01, 2017, 01:56:46 AM »

I don't see a point in the Clippers keeping it together, but I don't get to enjoy the playoff money that owners do.

Raptors are an interesting blow up potential. New Orleans would be in a great spot if they never did that Asik deal. The two best bigs in the league for any guard to pair with. But they blew money on Asik and a small forward I can't even name right now.

Denver has a lot of cap space and keeps trying to get a big name.

Boston and Ainge looking like a very lonely Scrooge McDuck

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #19101 on:** July 01, 2017, 12:43:33 PM »

Anyone want Andre Drummond? Anyone...

Let's Cyber · « **Reply #19102 on:** July 01, 2017, 01:09:28 PM »

Quote from: Kaffir The Reaper on July 01, 2017, 07:02:35 AM

The Timberwolves got Lowry...

etiolate · « **Reply #19103 on:** July 01, 2017, 01:17:04 PM »

I don't understand Phoenix going after Blake Griffin.

Maybe Boston settles for Drummond? That'd be hilarious.

benjipwns · « **Reply #19104 on:** July 02, 2017, 01:43:11 AM »

Wolves settled for Jeff Teague

benjipwns · « **Reply #19105 on:** July 02, 2017, 01:44:08 AM »

J.J. Redick headed to Sixers

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Free-agent forward Andre Iguodala has agreed to return to the Warriors on a three-year deal worth $48 million, sources told ESPN. He was also mulling multiyear offers from the Rockets, Spurs and Kings
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Golden State now has $130M in guaranteed contracts that include the three-year, $48M Andre Iguodala contract and $31.8M projected Kevin Durant salary. If the Warriors fill out their roster with minimum contracts their total salaries will be $137.5M with a luxury tax bill of $40.2M.

etiolate · « **Reply #19106 on:** July 02, 2017, 01:21:18 PM »

icee

Looks like the Raptors are retaining their team, but may have to dump a salary.

jakefromstatefarm · « **Reply #19107 on:** July 02, 2017, 05:45:26 PM »

I cannot wait until next may when Toronto gets swept in the second round again and pretends to reassess their situation only now they don't have valanciunas or Carroll and have to pay Lowry 30+ million a year until he's 34

etiolate · « **Reply #19108 on:** July 02, 2017, 05:58:52 PM »

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etiolate · « **Reply #19109 on:** July 02, 2017, 11:03:15 PM »

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/881708946842689537

Interesting side bit of this off-season is Woj and Bobby Marks switching to ESPN, but Shams is getting a lot of news that used to be Wojbombs.

bluemax · « **Reply #19110 on:** July 03, 2017, 10:33:11 PM »

Durant took less money.

etiolate · « **Reply #19111 on:** July 04, 2017, 01:16:12 AM »

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/882105205835411456

wtf

bluemax · « **Reply #19112 on:** July 04, 2017, 01:21:01 AM »

Yeah they've been rumored to be after him for the past few days. They have to dump Lou Williams and or Jamal Crawford to make it work. Probably Lou Williams since he is younger and cheaper.

Clippers dodged the bullet of having an aging diminutive point guard only to put their chips in on two guys who can't stay healthy.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #19113 on:** July 04, 2017, 11:06:50 AM »

I guess the Hawks are tanking, but then again so is like 1/2 the league

Nola · « **Reply #19114 on:** July 04, 2017, 04:09:23 PM »

https://twitter.com/ringer/status/882305476247072768

eleuin · « **Reply #19115 on:** July 04, 2017, 04:26:40 PM »

Seems hayward is going to the celtics, he just didn't want it to leak for some dumb reason

etiolate · « **Reply #19116 on:** July 04, 2017, 04:42:24 PM »

We don't really know anything. An ESPN reporter leaked something that wasn't 100%. Press got some egg on their face and will probably react angrily and blame Hayward, etc. Rather than just say they went too fast on something.

etiolate · « **Reply #19117 on:** July 04, 2017, 07:53:30 PM »

Official now. Player Tribune up. Hayward to Boston.

El Babua · « **Reply #19118 on:** July 04, 2017, 09:46:25 PM »

Oh well.

Now the Heat will have to bring the core back together. Sign Dion, James Johnson, and maybe Rudy Gay. Hope Richardson and Winslow make a leap.

Top 3 in the East baby!

bluemax · « **Reply #19119 on:** July 04, 2017, 11:23:34 PM »

Galinari to Clippers is happening. And apparently Clips are gonna kick the tires on Derek Rose because Doc Rivers doesn't know what year it is.

seagrams hotsauce · « **Reply #19120 on:** July 05, 2017, 01:08:37 AM »

Not that stoked on the hayward trade! I hope i'm wrong as fuck!

benjipwns · « **Reply #19121 on:** July 05, 2017, 01:18:22 AM »

Quote from: bluemax on July 04, 2017, 11:23:34 PM

And apparently Clips are gonna kick the tires on Derek Rose because Doc Rivers doesn't know what year it is.

how many MVP awards CP3 got, that's what i thought

Clips now have proven veteran leader to get the ball to Austin Rivers

etiolate · « **Reply #19122 on:** July 05, 2017, 01:19:31 AM »

Well Doc called his son a "Downhill Guard" and I can't think of another guard going downhill quite as hard as Derrick Rose.

benjipwns · « **Reply #19123 on:** July 05, 2017, 06:50:08 AM »

Quote from: Dan Wetzel

So Gordon Hayward was conflicted and wrestling with the decision, yet he managed to own a 2100 word column on it. Legendary deadline writer.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #19124 on:** July 05, 2017, 01:15:33 PM »

I hate playing against Hayward in 2K17. Dude never misses. Never.

eleuin · « **Reply #19125 on:** July 05, 2017, 01:37:10 PM »

There were way too many established reporters confirming the 1st leak for there to be no substance to it

etiolate · « **Reply #19126 on:** July 05, 2017, 03:43:58 PM »

Warriors sign Nick Young. Even the Dubs GM throws up heat checks and hits them.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #19127 on:** July 05, 2017, 05:12:26 PM »

Oh god I want to live in this world where Swaggy P will get a ring, I don't even care anymore

El Babua · « **Reply #19128 on:** July 05, 2017, 07:06:04 PM »

Basketball God Dion Waiters resigned with the Heat!

etiolate · « **Reply #19129 on:** July 05, 2017, 08:25:58 PM »

I was hoping Nick Young would go to the Pels because I'd like to see them have the firepower to compete for the playoffs. Instead, they're stuck hoping for results on some second rounders and d-league call ups.

bluemax · « **Reply #19130 on:** July 05, 2017, 10:35:10 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on July 05, 2017, 01:18:22 AM

Quote from: bluemax on July 04, 2017, 11:23:34 PM
And apparently Clips are gonna kick the tires on Derek Rose because Doc Rivers doesn't know what year it is.
how many MVP awards CP3 got, that's what i thought

Clips now have proven veteran leader to get the ball to Austin Rivers

He cant get the ball to Austin when he's on injured reserve with Blake and Gallo.

bluemax · « **Reply #19131 on:** July 07, 2017, 12:37:52 AM »

https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/883174604713414660

benjipwns · « **Reply #19132 on:** July 07, 2017, 02:16:40 AM »

Rudy Gay to the Spurs, Kings replacing him with Vince Carter

Heat getting Kelly Olynyk

etiolate · « **Reply #19133 on:** July 07, 2017, 04:28:41 AM »

Vince Carter is twice the age of some Kings players

benjipwns · « **Reply #19134 on:** July 07, 2017, 08:04:32 PM »

on the one side, no more Marcus Morris and not paying KCP an insane amount, on the other punting with Avery Bradley for a year

benjipwns · « **Reply #19135 on:** July 08, 2017, 12:23:51 AM »

El Babua · « **Reply #19136 on:** July 08, 2017, 11:10:30 PM »

https://twitter.com/SonicFox5000/status/883508097477562368

El Babua · « **Reply #19137 on:** July 08, 2017, 11:12:08 PM »

Oh, and Harden got a 4 year $228 million extension too.

etiolate · « **Reply #19138 on:** July 09, 2017, 12:24:11 AM »

omg rick fox

need a response from Doug Christie asap

benjipwns · « **Reply #19139 on:** July 09, 2017, 06:33:15 PM »

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Former Cleveland Cavaliers general manager David Griffin has pulled his name out of the New York Knicks' front-office search, a source told The Undefeated's Marc J. Spears.

Griffin turned down the opportunity because he and the Knicks couldn't agree on a role, a source said.

He and the Knicks "just couldn't make it work," a source with knowledge of the talks told ESPN's Dave McMenamin. The issue came down to finding a proper role for Griffin while front-office executive Steve Mills continues to work for the team.

With Griffin having withdrawn from consideration, sources with knowledge of the Knicks thinking said Steve Mills will continue to lead the Knicks' front offices for the foreseeable future, as he has throughout free agency.

Sources told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski that the Knicks and Griffin were at odds over Griffin not having full authority on basketball decisions and over Griffin's preference to bring in his own staff. No formal contract offer was made.

lol knicks

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