I ran into some old family friends this weekend, and while catching up the health care bill came up. They're a family of black conservatives, and the mom and sister were going on and on about how left wing the bill is and how it'll destroy America, and how I should be especially worried since my dad is a dentist and will be "forced" to accept medicaid patients apparently (his practice doesn't accept medicaid). Which isn't true, but I mainly wanted to know exactly what was so left wing about the bill, and they couldn't really tell me until they brought up the mandate. But the mandate is a conservative proposal that's kinda old.
When I think of liberal stuff in the bill, I think of the expanded subsidies medicaid, but I don't hear conservatives complaining about that. By the end of the discussion they were agreeing with me on many of the bill's provisions (kids on their parents hc insurance, keeping your doctor, the idea of exchanges, pre-existing conditions, etc). Then when I asked sooo, what exactly do you disagree with, I got the "it's a government takeover!" So we talked about the public option and blah blah blah, that's where the mental roadblock went up. I've yet to find a person who could defend the "gov takeover" talking point. Maybe FoC can