Author Topic: "A black sheriff?!": The Official Topic of Obama and New Era American Politics (Read 1867274 times)

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #12360 on:** April 20, 2011, 02:27:53 PM »

what's worse Beardo, $14k to empower poor people by giving them capes - or $500k to defend the defense of marriage act?

Beardo · « **Reply #12361 on:** April 20, 2011, 02:27:59 PM »

No you're right guys. I thought about it and Red Capes are the best use of $14,000. I told my broker to go ahead and invest my nest egg into Red Capes now.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #12362 on:** April 20, 2011, 02:29:02 PM »

Quote from: Beardo on April 20, 2011, 02:22:55 PM

Heaven forbid that money is actually used to create jobs.

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The agency says it served 210,000 people during its last fiscal year, placing nearly 59,000 in jobs.

Beardo · « **Reply #12363 on:** April 20, 2011, 02:29:18 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 20, 2011, 02:27:53 PM

what's worse Beardo, $14k to empower poor people by giving them capes - or $500k to defend the defense of marriage act?

$14k to empower poor people by giving them capes
$14k to empower poor people by giving them capes
empower poor people by giving them capes

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Great Rumbler · « **Reply #12364 on:** April 20, 2011, 02:30:55 PM »

They spent $14k to promote their agency? How reprehensible!

Beardo · « **Reply #12365 on:** April 20, 2011, 02:32:46 PM »

Other people's money

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #12366 on:** April 20, 2011, 02:34:45 PM »

You're against empowering poor people? jesus christ

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #12367 on:** April 20, 2011, 02:39:04 PM »

Quote from: Beardo on April 20, 2011, 02:32:46 PM

Other people's money

Yeah, totally, it's not like the US Army spends millions of dollars on NASCAR promotion and commercials that air before movies at the theater and on TV! This unemployment agency needs to wise up and stop spending their money on pointless promotional nonsense, like the other branches of the government.

Mandark · « **Reply #12368 on:** April 20, 2011, 02:41:19 PM »

I wish there were bigger font sizes available, so I could understand Beardo better.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #12369 on:** April 20, 2011, 02:42:58 PM »

Jennifer Granholm was a horrible governor and paved the way for Snyder to sneak in with little to no scrutiny. Lots of people were infatuated with the nerd persona (*cough* cheebs *cough*), and I didn't know who he was until a couple weeks before the election; I must admit it was kind of uninteresting considering the election results were a given months before the election. Buut now republicans control the entire state, and have basically been taking shit over. Snyder seems a lot smarter than Scott Walker in Wisconsin, who's making a lot of noise as he remakes the state. Whereas Snyder is quietly taking over. heh

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #12370 on:** April 20, 2011, 02:49:49 PM »

Quote from: Billy Rygar on April 20, 2011, 02:35:10 PM

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/42654363#42654363
:'(

:'( indeed

Mandark · « **Reply #12371 on:** April 20, 2011, 02:51:32 PM »

Quote from: Billy Rygar on April 20, 2011, 02:35:10 PM

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/42654363#42654363
:'(

Jesus, that's fucked up.

Mupepe · « **Reply #12372 on:** April 20, 2011, 02:55:28 PM »

"Surely one of these ads interests you. Pick one or we'll pick one for you"

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #12373 on:** April 20, 2011, 02:57:41 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on April 20, 2011, 02:51:32 PM

Quote from: Billy Rygar on April 20, 2011, 02:35:10 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/42654363#42654363
:'(

Jesus, that's fucked up.

straight outta robocop. minus the robot cop.

Mandark · « **Reply #12374 on:** April 20, 2011, 03:06:35 PM »

Speaking of disenfranchised poor black people, how was statehood for DC not even considered when Dems had control of both houses? From a purely cynical political perspective that shoulda been a slam dunk.

Boogie · « **Reply #12375 on:** April 20, 2011, 04:54:04 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on April 20, 2011, 02:42:12 AM

and as a well-adjusted and socially aware adult I'm not going to pull a Boogie

Annihilated.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #12376 on:** April 20, 2011, 08:04:53 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 20, 2011, 02:34:45 PM

You're against empowering poor people? jesus christ

Beardo is one of those self hating white republican poors. That type of self loathing but dead certain that he will be a millionaire one day so he's gotta support his rich bros!

Edit: I saw the video linked

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #12377 on:** April 21, 2011, 12:40:40 AM »

Quote from: The Experiment on April 20, 2011, 08:04:53 PM

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 20, 2011, 02:34:45 PM
You're against empowering poor people? jesus christ

Beardo is one of those self hating white republican poors. That type of self loathing but dead certain that he will be a millionaire one day so he's gotta support his rich bros!

Edit: I saw the video linked

i used to joke about those people, thinking they didn't actually exist, and hoping i would shame folks by way of a cariacature. how wrong i was! in the last ten years, i have met SO MANY LIBERTARIPOORS who really think that they are the potential titans of the future destined to make millions, and it is only the filthy libruls and their taxation and/or handouts that keep their online scentsy candle business or telemarketing vendor shop from taking off, and it is ever so terrifying/depressing. rural america is just one giant case of narcissistic personality disorder. actually, so is the middle class, if my facebook is anything to go by

Oblivion · « **Reply #12378 on:** April 21, 2011, 04:56:12 PM »

[youtube=560,345]#at=381[/youtube]

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #12379 on:** April 21, 2011, 07:05:46 PM »

Quote from: Oblivion on April 21, 2011, 04:56:12 PM

[youtube=560,345]#at=381[/youtube]

What am doing in this party? $:-\$

Oblivion · « **Reply #12380 on:** April 21, 2011, 07:34:06 PM »

http://www.theonion.com/articles/mitt-romney-haunted-by-past-of-trying-to-help-unin,20097/

Tristam · « **Reply #12381 on:** April 22, 2011, 04:33:36 PM »

Quote from: Oblivion on April 21, 2011, 07:34:06 PM

http://www.theonion.com/articles/mitt-romney-haunted-by-past-of-trying-to-help-unin,20097/

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #12382 on:** April 22, 2011, 04:51:43 PM »

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"I don't think I can vote for someone like that," Pennsylvania Republican Eric Tolbert said. "He says he's sorry, but how do I know that's the real Mitt Romney? What happens if he gets elected and tries to help sick people again?"

"I like Michele Bachmann now," Tolbert added. "Because what this country needs is a president who doesn't give a fuck about helping people."

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #12383 on:** April 24, 2011, 06:03:37 PM »

Quote from: Van Cruncheon on April 21, 2011, 12:40:40 AM

Quote from: The Experiment on April 20, 2011, 08:04:53 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 20, 2011, 02:34:45 PM
You're against empowering poor people? jesus christ

Beardo is one of those self hating white republican poors. That type of self loathing but dead certain that he will be a millionaire one day so he's gotta support his rich bros!

Edit: I saw the video linked

i used to joke about those people, thinking they didn't actually exist, and hoping i would shame folks by way of a cariacature. how wrong i was! in the last ten years, i have met SO MANY LIBERTARIPOORS who really think that they are the potential titans of the future destined to make millions, and it is only the filthy libruls and their taxation and/or handouts that keep their online scentsy candle business or telemarketing vendor shop from taking off, and it is ever so terrifying/depressing. rural america is just one giant case of narcissistic personality disorder. actually, so is the middle class, if my facebook is anything to go by

One of my closest childhood friends does nothing but rant about this shit on Facebook. I'm tempted to unfriend him, but his ranting has become an entertaining train wreck that I can't look away from.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #12384 on:** April 24, 2011, 07:07:50 PM »

I have a poor Republican friend who makes $9 an hour with a side business drawing animals. He seriously believes that the tax codes and Obamacare are the reasons why his drawing business hasn't taken off like he thought it would. I guess he believes that if people didn't have to fork over up to 35% of their income in taxes, they would spend that money on his shitty dog and cat pictures instead. It's mindblowing but those are the little delusions that keep the Nobamatards continually outraged that 5% of the federal budget goes towards NPR.

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #12385 on:** April 25, 2011, 12:43:18 PM »

Just saw this linked today

From 2 YEARS AGO

Quote from: http://www.theonion.com/articles/afterbirthers-demand-to-see-obamas-placenta,6866/

Afterbirthers Demand To See Obama's Placenta

August 27, 2009 | ISSUE 45•35

WASHINGTON–In the continuing controversy surrounding the president's U.S. citizenship, a new fringe group informally known as "Afterbirthers" demanded Monday the authentication of Barack Obama's placenta from his time inside his mother's womb. "All we are asking is that the president produce a sample of his fetal membranes and vessels—preferably along with a photo of the crowning and delivery—and this will all be over," said former presidential candidate and Afterbirthers spokesman Alan Keyes, later adding that his organization would be willing to settle for a half-liter of maternal cord plasma. "To this day, the American people have not seen a cervical mucus plug, let alone one that has been signed and notarized by a state-certified Hawaiian health official. If the president was indeed born in the manner in which he claims, then where is his gestation sac?" Keyes said that if Obama did not soon produce at least a bloody bedsheet from his conception, Afterbirthers would push forward with efforts to exhume the president's deceased mother and inspect the corpse's pelvic bone and birth canal.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #12386 on:** April 25, 2011, 12:53:55 PM »

I can't believe that this is STILL an issue.

Well, I CAN, but it still boggled my mind.

Edit: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp

Mandark · « **Reply #12387 on:** April 25, 2011, 07:00:33 PM »

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hLwU-RlIyzUA_sZCs1KLt6WiKmCA?docId=292f4280ef89473ca40a7329ce4cc829

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"I heard he was a terrible student, terrible. How does a bad student go to Columbia and then to Harvard?" Trump said in an interview with The Associated Press. "I'm thinking about it, I'm certainly looking into it. Let him show his records."

Obama graduated from Columbia University in New York in 1983 with a degree in political science after transferring from Occidental College in California. He went on to Harvard Law School, where he graduated magna cum laude 1991 and was the first black president of the Harvard Law Review.

Obama's 2008 campaign did not release his college transcripts, and in his best-selling memoir, "Dreams From My Father," Obama indicated he hadn't always been an academic star. Trump told the AP that Obama's refusal to release his college grades were part of a pattern of concealing information about himself.

"I have friends who have smart sons with great marks, great boards, great everything and they can't get into Harvard," Trump said. "We don't know a thing about this guy. There are a lot of questions that are unanswered about our president."

Anyone want to make the case that the implications here aren't racial? Anyone?

Brehvolution · « **Reply #12388 on:** April 25, 2011, 07:03:31 PM »

So he is inferring that Obama got into Harvard cause he's black?

Mandark · « **Reply #12389 on:** April 25, 2011, 07:08:22 PM »

Pretty much.

Either that, or Obama was placed into Harvard as part of a decades-long conspiracy perpetrated by the Illuminati/ZOG/Roger Sterling from the Adjustment Bureau.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #12390 on:** April 25, 2011, 07:20:30 PM »

No birth certificate, terrible student, had someone else write his book for him. What's next?

and how does a terrible student become editor of the Harvard Law Review

Oblivion · « **Reply #12391 on:** April 26, 2011, 04:56:39 PM »

Ezra Klein calls Obama a moderate Republican. Ezra Klein, as usual, is late to the party.

Mandark · « **Reply #12392 on:** April 26, 2011, 10:57:54 PM »

Apropos of that, here's Rick Perlstein obliterating the Nixon-as-liberal meme that used to come mainly from conservatives looking to disassociate themselves from him, but now is popular among Greenwald-style liberals.

Skimming Klein's piece, it illustrates how politicians' alleged positions are temporary and influenced by the pressures around them. It's not really useful in determining what constitutes a conservative or liberal approach to an issue. Not that it matters. Plenty of people will label each and every decision as draconian socialism or sellout corporatism regardless.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #12393 on:** April 26, 2011, 11:59:30 PM »

Exactly. Before Reagan, Republicans pretty much gave lip service to the notion that government was an essential part of society, the rich should pay more in taxes, the social safety net should exist, etc etc because they HAD TO. Now, in the era of Michelle Bachmann, the argument is probably over whether to abolish the income tax or gas all of the queers first, because 30 years of successfully changing the tenor of the national conversation ALLOWS them to.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #12394 on:** April 27, 2011, 12:18:20 AM »

but a republican freed the slaves!

Pearlstein

Mandark · « **Reply #12395 on:** April 27, 2011, 12:33:28 AM »

If you want to see how political rhetoric has changed in the US, compare the keynote speech Ted Kennedy gave at the Democratic convention in 1980 to the one Obama gave in 2008 accepting the nomination.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #12396 on:** April 27, 2011, 09:33:05 AM »

Obama released his birth certificate.

Birthers owned, yet they'll spin it some way.

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #12397 on:** April 27, 2011, 11:15:22 AM »

I've never given much credence to the "Whow, Nixon was a liberal wasn't he" game. He wasn't an ideologue but he was a survivor, and didn't mind riding the political tides even while he was wanting to ratfuck the hippies.

cool breeze · « **Reply #12398 on:** April 27, 2011, 11:24:01 AM »

they faked the moon landing, they can fake this

Brehvolution · « **Reply #12399 on:** April 27, 2011, 11:33:02 AM »

For those who need more proof:

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B-Rock"The Islamic Shock" Hussein Superallah Obama

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Mandark · « **Reply #12400 on:** April 27, 2011, 12:43:38 PM »

Man, I was sure back in 2008 that once Obama had been president for a while and hadn't sent the white people to concentration camps that everyone would calm down and I'd be able to have a nice laugh about it with my conservative acquaintances.

Oops.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #12401 on:** April 27, 2011, 12:47:45 PM »

The whole birther/bad student angle really numbs my brain. We know what Obama is about, his policies and positions aren't some secret anymore, he's been the president of the country for more than two years now!!

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #12402 on:** April 27, 2011, 01:32:52 PM »

Oh thanks a lot, White House, I'm sure this will be the final nail in the birther movement!

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http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/04/orly_taitz_obamas_long-form_birth_certificate_should_say_negro_not_african.php?ref=fpblg

huckleberry · « **Reply #12403 on:** April 27, 2011, 02:00:50 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 27, 2011, 01:32:52 PM

Oh thanks a lot, White House, I'm sure this will be the final nail in the birther movement!

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http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/04/orly_taitz_obamas_long-form_birth_certificate_should_say_negro_not_african.php?ref=fpblg

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Oily Taints for preznit!

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #12404 on:** April 27, 2011, 02:08:08 PM »

GOP candidates are probably happy Obama threw them a life line. Now they can focus on other fringe, crazy shit - at least until 2014 when it's time to revive birtherism to win back the house.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #12405 on:** April 27, 2011, 02:33:21 PM »

They'll probably just use it to prove that Obama is weak-willed and easily distracted.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #12406 on:** April 27, 2011, 03:18:29 PM »

https://twitter.com/#!/TheOnion/statuses/63291247623798784

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #12407 on:** April 27, 2011, 03:52:07 PM »

Can't wait for Trump's response to the document. Just two days ago he said the certificate was missing from the hospital, according to his investigators. In order to remain consistent he has to proclaim this a fake. Or he can drop the issue and ride the wave into the primaries.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #12408 on:** April 27, 2011, 03:53:45 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 27, 2011, 03:52:07 PM

Can't wait for Trump's response to the document.

He's crowing about how this is a big victory for him and about how it was his pressure that forced Obama to release the birth certificate.

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On Wednesday, Trump took credit in the White House's decision to release the president's birth records. "I am really honored to play such a big role in hopefully, hopefully getting rid of this issue," he said.

"Today I'm very proud of myself, because I've accomplished something that no one else has been able to accomplish," said Trump on the release of the president's birth certificate, according to NBC News. "I want to look at it, but I hope it's true. ... But he should have done it a long time ago."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/27/donald-trump-obama-birth-_n_854267.html

cool breeze · « **Reply #12409 on:** April 27, 2011, 03:57:44 PM »

so what if he is an American? he was bad at school. terrible. I hurd thangs.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #12410 on:** April 27, 2011, 04:02:52 PM »

I saw that response, I'm talking about his actual response after seeing the document.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #12411 on:** April 27, 2011, 04:43:23 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 27, 2011, 04:02:52 PM

I saw that response, I'm talking about his actual response after seeing the document.

He was never serious about this whole thing anyway. It was just an attempt to troll and curry favor with a demented section of the population in the unlikely event he tries to run.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #12412 on:** April 27, 2011, 05:29:43 PM »

Can't wait for Colbert tonight.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #12413 on:** April 27, 2011, 05:39:46 PM »

Obama dun got trolled by a fringe movement. Now instead of griping about the birth certificate, now it will be about his grades.

I thought he was better than this to be honest.

cool breeze · « **Reply #12414 on:** April 27, 2011, 05:53:27 PM »

wow, T-Rump. smh.

the cunt didn't even mention the royal wedding as a more important issue

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #12415 on:** April 27, 2011, 07:30:45 PM »

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #12416 on:** April 27, 2011, 08:54:30 PM »

Quote from: The Experiment on April 27, 2011, 05:39:46 PM

Obama dun got trolled by a fringe movement. Now instead of griping about the birth certificate, now it will be about his grades.

I thought he was better than this to be honest.

he's been successfully trolled into action by james o'keefe and breitbart. his capitulation to the trolls on this issue should surprise no-one!

Oblivion · « **Reply #12417 on:** April 27, 2011, 09:39:48 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on April 26, 2011, 10:57:54 PM

Apropos of that, here's Rick Perlstein obliterating the Nixon-as-liberal meme that used to come mainly from conservatives looking to disassociate themselves from him, but now is popular among Greenwald-style liberals.

Skimming Klein's piece, it illustrates how politicians' alleged positions are temporary and influenced by the pressures around them. It's not really useful in determining what constitutes a conservative or liberal approach to an issue. Not that it matters. Plenty of people will label each and every decision as draconian socialism or sellout corporatism regardless.

I don't think that when liberals credit Nixon with doing liberal things, that they're trying to imply he did it out of the goodness of his heart. Whatever contempt he may have had for say, environmentalists, it's pretty moot since he DID wind up creating the EPA.

And in the end, isn't it really the results that matter? Does one really care if a president genuinely wanted to do whatever he could to help poor people, if in the end he did something like eliminating welfare?

Road to hell is paved with good intentions...

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Obama dun got trolled by a fringe movement. Now instead of griping about the birth certificate, now it will be about his grades.

I thought he was better than this to be honest.

Yeah, I thought this would be one of the few things where Obama would stand his ground, or at the very least just ignore these fucks. Wonder what the next distinguished mentally-challenged conspiracy theory will be after this.

Oblivion · « **Reply #12418 on:** April 27, 2011, 10:12:19 PM »

Also, good thing this release will finally put the issue to rest:

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Texas state legislator Leo Berman, a Republican, has introduced a bill that would require proof of citizenship from presidential candidates. It's one of many such bills in the states. And according to Sharon Guthrie, Berman's legislative director, it is still on the table, because the long-form birth certificate released by the White House today does not satisfy its requirements.

"What I've seen online, what they produced today, still says certificate of live birth across the top," she told me. And she's right.

But why isn't that just a nomenclature issue? Why does it matter?

"We want to see a 'birth certificate,'" Guthrie explained. "The one that we have that says 'birth certificate' is from Mombassa, Kenya, with his footprint on it. He has still not produced an American birth certificate."

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2011_04/029157.php

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #12419 on:** April 27, 2011, 10:48:07 PM »

I think we're ignoring the real issue here. His mom's name is Stanley? Sounds like his dad gay married a cheeseburger. Donald Trump, make him show us his mom's birth certificate!

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