Pallando will return in "Never Say Never Again"

[Steve Youngblood]

4 to 5 kids as the average? That sounds absolutely dreadful. This might be reactionary nonsense since we're right in the process of caring for an infant, but I think the wife and I might seriously be down for sticking with just the 1 kid. Other people with kids say we're crazy, but I think I could be content.

[Reb]

Ugh, only one kid is so sad.

[Mupepe]

Ugh, only one kid is so sad.

True dat

No really.  Some of you guys are making this into a way bigger deal than it is.  BrandNew is not in a position to lose anything.  If you don't think he's thought of all these things you're crazy.  But he has nothing to lose by trying to work something out with a girl he genuinely cares for.  And yeah, some people do make huge mistakes when they're younger but why should that disqualify them?  It's pretty easy to tell who has their shit together and who doesn't after a few weeks/months.

PS: Cormac nails it by the way.  I'm so happy that by the time my daughter is an adult I'll still only be 36.

[Steve Youngblood]

Ugh, only one kid is so sad.

Maybe, I don't know. Personally, I really just hate the idea of looking after multiple infant/toddlers. Caring for the one infant is already plenty of work (but worth it!), and as such it's hard to fathom doing this with a 1 - 3 year old running around. "Well, wait a little longer!" Yeah, that's something I suppose. But then it puts us at being a little older than we'd like to be at for raising a kid. A nice 5 year buffer puts us a 32 and 33 years of age. Not outlandish, but older than we'd like.

But we'll see. Everyone with kids says "Oh, just wait a year or two, and you'll be ready to have another." So, who knows?

[demi]

I'm so happy that by the time my daughter is an adult I'll still only be 36.

So am I

[Mupepe]

Wait.  Do you want me or do you want her?  Please say me please say me daddy

[MrAngryFace]

Kids aren't Pokemon!

[Mupepe]

to fistful they are.  gotta catch 'em all

[Mupepe]

Because we realize it's not as big of a deal as most people act like?

[MrAngryFace]

I would probably initially avoid Getting involved with a woman with kids, but it's more about me. I'm really just not sure I want that yet/ever. It's unfair to waste her time while I figure that out

[brob]

chicks with kids are alright wtf is wrong with you guys

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not married with kids

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[Phoenix Dark]

So all the "chicks with kids are alright wtf is wrong with you guys" are already married with kids, that should tell you everything.

Another case of married people with children wanting everyone to be as miserable as them

[MrAngryFace]

TBH people change when they become parents- but that all depends on successfully becoming the parent you need to be. I dont begrudge people who enjoy being a parent, but when they insist you arent whole unless youre a parent, or call their kids things like 'MY LITTLE MAN' I get tired of em

[Mupepe]

Ugh.  the worst people are the ones who constantly tell my wife and I that we need children together.  No no no no no no. Why?  We are really happy together.  If it happens, it happens.  But at this point I'm not going to try.  They all say that we need to complete our family and shit.  Fuck that.  We've got 3 dogs.  We've got a huge family.

[MrAngryFace]

Yeah people who pity single people or married without children folks need to step off

[Steve Youngblood]

I call my three month old little man. I'll just go quietly over into the corner and hang my head in shame...

But anyway, I don't think I'd advocate having kids as a must to anyone. I'd advise that it might not be as bad as you think, and that if you're in a long-term relationship that looks like it's going the distance, then it's something that's worth considering and not being terrified of. But honestly, I'd be a dirty, stinking liar if I were to parade about as though it's nothing but upside with absolutely no negatives to speak of. There are plenty of instances where in just this short period of time I've lamented the good ol' days of being able to do what I want when I wanted. If that kind of thing is important to someone, it'd be stupid to preach that you'll still have plenty of the proverbial "me time," because that's a lie.

There are positives to it, but just not in the way that's easy to articulate. As such, I don't mind cautioning that parenthood isn't as bad as you think, but I also don't see a point in trying to coax people into it. There's plenty of good reasons to not want kids, and I don't think any "you'll never believe what my little man did today..." anecdotes offer a compelling reason to reconsider one's stance.

[MrAngryFace]

I'm probably gonna knock my wife up in the next year or two as my finances come together.

[Mupepe]

I agree, Steve.  But I think with any big decision there are moments where you regret it.  Bought that house?  When the A/C goes out you'll miss the days of the landlord having to fix it.  Bought that expensive new car?  You'll miss all the extra money when you didn't have the payment.  Got married?  You'll miss when you could just go home when she PMS'ed

[MrAngryFace]

I think Grass is Always Greener pretty much sums it up

[Himu]

Ugh, only one kid is so sad.

Yep. Being an only child is shit.

[Mr. Gundam]

I agree, Steve.  But I think with any big decision there are moments where you regret it.  Bought that house?  When the A/C goes out you'll miss the days of the landlord having to fix it.

I like taking care of my house, gives me a real sense of ownership.

Bought that expensive new car?  You'll miss all the extra money when you didn't have the payment.

Buy a car that you can afford. That's why I'm rocking a totally paid-off 2009 Corolla XLE.

Got married?  You'll miss when you could just go home when she PMS'ed

Our house is big enough that we can go to different parts of the house to cool down.

[Barry Egan]

Ugh, only one kid is so sad.

Yep. Being an only child is shit.

Qft

[Himu]

we are brothers in arms chipopo

[MrAngryFace]

I have a sister, isnt that grand folks. Endless fighting.

[demi]

Can't say I had any benefit of having a sibling either.

[Mr. Gundam]

I've got a half sister from my dad's first marriage, but we never lived together (weekends, holidays and vacations) so I'm pretty much an only child.

[cool breeze]

the grass is greener, etc.

 

[Cheebo]

Kids are awesome I can't wait to have them. My girl and I both agree we want to start before we are 30, I am 25 now and can see myself being a father in the next few years. Ideally 27 or so.

[Phoenix Dark]

Kids are awesome I can't wait to have them. My girl and I both agree we want to start before we are 30, I am 25 now and can see myself being a father in the next few years. Ideally 27 or so.

[Cheebo]

Kids are awesome I can't wait to have them. My girl and I both agree we want to start before we are 30, I am 25 now and can see myself being a father in the next few years. Ideally 27 or so.

You'll have kids and you know it.

[Phoenix Dark]

It has come to mind in the last couple months, but I feel like it's probably me being all emotional n shit. Statistically you're probably right, I'll get married/kids one day, but I want to get financially set first. And I know once I do that I'll most likely be too busy doing my own thing and having fun to start contemplating marriage.

[Himu]

Does the world really need more children?

[Barry Egan]

I think if you're a good enough dude than having a kid can be justified on political grounds.

[Shadow Mod]

Does the world really need more children?

Wait you're in the only child club too? Shit is lonely as fuck.

[Himu]

Does the world really need more children?

Wait you're in the only child club too? Shit is lonely as fuck.

It really sucks balls. If I'm going to have children I will only do so if I have the means to take care of 2 children. No only child for me.

[Phoenix Dark]

I doubt not having siblings truly sucks, but then again I have three brothers. Two are cool

[Himu]

Why do you doubt being an only child sucks? It's lonely as hell especially after the 80's/90's child molester scare.

"I'm going to go outside. The guys across the street are cool."
"No. Don't go outside. Don't you have enough friends at school?"
""

At least if you had siblings you wouldn't be lonely.

[Phoenix Dark]

Eh. I've always been a loner so it wouldn't matter to me. But still, the idea that single children are lonely and have no one to play with sounds like an utter myth to me, like "homeschooled kids don't have anyone to talk/play with" talking points.

[Himu]

It sounds like...a myth?

[Mupepe]

Why do you doubt being an only child sucks? It's lonely as hell especially after the 80's/90's child molester scare.

"I'm going to go outside. The guys across the street are cool."
"No. Don't go outside. Don't you have enough friends at school?"
""

At least if you had siblings you wouldn't be lonely.

Lol but you get more toys at Christmas!

[Himu]

Why do you doubt being an only child sucks? It's lonely as hell especially after the 80's/90's child molester scare.

"I'm going to go outside. The guys across the street are cool."
"No. Don't go outside. Don't you have enough friends at school?"
""

At least if you had siblings you wouldn't be lonely.

Lol but you get more toys at Christmas!

Apparently toys > human life

Shows some priorities. That was always the argument some people told me growing up. I never got more toys than the other kids with siblings and I would have traded my ninja turtle blimp for a brother/sister at moment's haste.

[Mupepe]

Ill trade you my brother and sister for that blimp right now!

[Himu]

I don't really care about it these days, though, as the cousins I am close to are my brothers/sisters. But I still refuse to have a child, unless I'm capable of having multiple.

[Cheebo]

I had no brothers or sisters which sucked. Yeah I was spoiled as a only child but I'd trade it for siblings. What made it worse was I never had any cousins I was close to at all. Holidays and family events rarely involved anyone but me and my parents.

[Himu]

God that sounds horrible, Cheebs.

[Barry Egan]

My father has a pretty serious and alienating personality disorder and my mother was adopted, so both sides of my family don't really include me amongst their ranks.  Shit is tough.

[Himu]

Imagine when one of your parents go and you're left with most of the work by yourself, Barry. Well, at least you had toys growing up!

[Himu]

My dad's parents had 9 kids. One more including a half sister.

My mom's parents had three kids.

So I probably have like 40-50 cousins. I don't know the amount.

[Barry Egan]

Imagine when one of your parents go and you're left with most of the work by yourself, Barry. Well, at least you had toys growing up!

sure was fun having mighty max all to myself in the empty desolate vacuum of childhood.

[Cormacaroni]

My mother has 24 brothers and sisters. Poor catholics in Ireland who don't subscribe to birth control, and my granddad married 3 times due to terminal wife failure. Many of those kids went on to have families in the 6-10 range 'cause why not, still nothin' compared to what mum and dad had to deal with. They all get along famously. No-one knows exactly how many cousins I have, but it's comfortably over 300 'cause my dad had a huge family as well (9 kids).  I have 3 brothers and sisters and everyone thinks that's on the small side.

On the other hand, my wife's extended family is tiny. My daughter has almost nobody. The main motivation I have to go back to the UK is just so she can experience the fun of being part of a huge extended family. I didn't appreciate it as much as I should have 'cause I just thought that shit was normal.

[cool breeze]

your family could probably take over a weak country like Canada

[Steve Youngblood]

Hmm... on the cousins part, our son is screwed. I come from a family of 2, and my 32-year-old brother is neither currently married nor has kids. My wife comes from a family of 2 and her 25-year-old sister is neither married, in a serious relationship, nor wants kids at all currently. And my wife has 2 cousins total (one from her dad's side and one from the mom's).

At least my extended family is large, and I'm close with many of them. But that aside, my "one kid is enough" stance will be seriously challenged when he's the only kid running around at a lot of these family functions.

[Mr. Gundam]

I think we're only going to have one kid. Living in Seattle is expensive and our house isn't crazy big. My daughter will have lots of playmates as most of our friends already have kids or have kids on the way. My niece is in 2nd grade, and she's already psyched about getting to babysit her someday.

[demi]

lol, HUMAN LIFE I LOVE MY SIBLINGS

Get real fagmos. Roll of the dice when it comes to Siblings. Mostly those puritan christian familes have those sunday afternoon special relationships. Otherwise it's some bullshit hair pulling fights "he/she gets treated better, you like him/her more than me" crap.

[tiesto]

Damn, thought things were going well with this one girl (the one I mentioned earlier, who actually seemed to be somewhat normal)... but I just got ditched for a 3rd date. We were supposed to go out today, and she txts me this morning saying her friend called her up last nite in tears because she's undergoing a lot of stress, so she was gonna go spend time with her friend. I txted her back saying "That's OK, hopefully everything is OK with your friend. We can get together sometime next week." And then she was just like "thanks for being understanding". I think that one is done, and it's a shame too.

Went out with a girl yesterday, it seemed to go OK, even though she was a bit on the heavier side... txted her asking if she wanted to go out again but she said she is gonna be busy the next few weeks.

Fuck.  :'(

[demi]

She probably googled you and found your video of the last fat chick you fucked here.

[chronovore]

My mother has 24 brothers and sisters. Poor catholics in Ireland who don't subscribe to birth control, and my granddad married 3 times due to terminal wife failure. Many of those kids went on to have families in the 6-10 range 'cause why not, still nothin' compared to what mum and dad had to deal with. They all get along famously. No-one knows exactly how many cousins I have, but it's comfortably over 300 'cause my dad had a huge family as well (9 kids).  I have 3 brothers and sisters and everyone thinks that's on the small side.

On the other hand, my wife's extended family is tiny. My daughter has almost nobody. The main motivation I have to go back to the UK is just so she can experience the fun of being part of a huge extended family. I didn't appreciate it as much as I should have 'cause I just thought that shit was normal.

Damn, thought things were going well with this one girl (the one I mentioned earlier, who actually seemed to be somewhat normal)... but I just got ditched for a 3rd date. We were supposed to go out today, and she txts me this morning saying her friend called her up last nite in tears because she's undergoing a lot of stress, so she was gonna go spend time with her friend. I txted her back saying "That's OK, hopefully everything is OK with your friend. We can get together sometime next week." And then she was just like "thanks for being understanding". I think that one is done, and it's a shame too.

Went out with a girl yesterday, it seemed to go OK, even though she was a bit on the heavier side... txted her asking if she wanted to go out again but she said she is gonna be busy the next few weeks.

Fuck.  :'(

What?! Why? It doesn't sound like a ditch, it sounds like she's being there for a friend. Sorry, what am I missing here?

[Positive Touch]

would YOU give up potential sex so you could help a "stressed out" friend get over their shit on a friday night?

[chronovore]

would YOU give up potential sex so you could help a "stressed out" friend get over their shit on a friday night?

Yeah. Pretty sure I have.

I guess is the question is, "Why would you not do that?"

[Cormacaroni]

In cases where that friend is my wife, yes. 1,000s of times.