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Am_I_Anonymous · « **Reply #16380 on:** June 23, 2015, 11:09:58 AM »

Quote from: BrandNew on June 23, 2015, 10:59:00 AM

Man I hope not. Rondo doesn't deserve a starting gig anymore. If he does end up in LA, he should be used in the deal to acquire Cousins and send Rondo to the Kings just to make Bill Simmons Rondo-to-Kings timeline come true. That way Lakers could maybe keep Randle.

I guess the rumor is it's Orlando/Lakers/Kings with The lakers #1 and Randle going to Orlando, Vucevic and Magic's #1 going to Kings/Cousins to Lakers with some extra parts here and there.

Am_I_Anonymous · « **Reply #16381 on:** June 23, 2015, 11:10:55 AM »

Quote from: Brehvolution on June 23, 2015, 11:08:56 AM

THe Iverson doc on HBO(?) was pretty good. I forgot how much shit he went through and put on himself.

It's on Netflix too. I agree he went through a lot of racial bullshit but he also did bring some on himself (slamming a chair on a dude in a bowling alley is a bad look)

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #16382 on:** June 23, 2015, 04:34:05 PM »

http://espn.go.com/newyork/nba/story/_/id/13134107/phil-jackson-new-york-knicks-criticizes-lebron-james-nba-offenses

I love how, he is so concerned with other teams in the league and the "beauty" of the game. The last few years of cranky old Grandpa phil will be amazing.

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #16383 on:** June 23, 2015, 04:51:36 PM »

I don't really see a problem with what he said. It's not very fun to watch and he said its prevalent, but didn't say it was dominating the game. He was just musin and wondered aloud how far that style of game will go.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #16384 on:** June 23, 2015, 05:10:49 PM »

The trend is definitely away from that style of basketball he describes which is iso-centric basketball. The most successful teams in recent years including the last few champs don't actually play that way. Spurs basketball is the buzzword around the league even if the mass of teams aren't successfully replicating it. Even the heat didn't play the way the Cavaliers did this year as Lebron's usage rate increased. There are lots of reason to argue against the Cavs play style. I did all year. But the playoff run style was basically forced necessity due to injuries so his criticisms there are a bit odd too.

I would argue basketball looks better in recent years than it has for the last 10 years prior. I would also argue that his run with the Lakers wasn't a return to some beautiful fabled basketball of yore.

But like I said, we'll see what type of team, he is able to bring together and the beautiful style they put out.

Mandark · « **Reply #16385 on:** June 23, 2015, 06:37:58 PM »

Yeah, he's just wrong. The league isn't appreciably more individual-oriented than it was 10 or 20 years ago. It's old man yells at cloud stuff.

benjipwns · « **Reply #16386 on:** June 23, 2015, 07:19:51 PM »

"The game actually has some beauty to it, and we've kind of taken some of that out of it to make it individualized," Jackson told Bleacher Report. "It's a lot of who we are as a country, individualized stuff.

"... It struck me: How can we get so far away from the real truth of what we're trying to do?"

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #16387 on:** June 23, 2015, 07:41:12 PM »

good to see a senile man is in charge of the knicks

fuck me

jakefromstatefarm · « **Reply #16388 on:** June 23, 2015, 07:58:51 PM »

So Karl and DMC haven't spoken to each other since April, Ranadive and Divac have sat on their hands for the past 2 months and DMC's camp just leaked trade talk rumors 2 days before the draft, which the kings FO has staunchly denied.

Rumor is:
Lakers - Boogie/6th
Kings - Randle/Vucevic/5th
Magic - 2nd

Karl also threw out a deal to send Cousins to Denver for Lawson and Faried (lol). Sacramento has the option of a) firing Karl, which they should do anyway, or b) exchange probably the best center in the league over the next 5 years for spare parts. Rondo and the Kings have mutual interest in a one year deal; they're also looking to move Gay.

Beezy · « **Reply #16389 on:** June 23, 2015, 08:05:17 PM »

Quote from: The Walrus on June 23, 2015, 03:54:29 PM

Not sure I'd value Cousins as high as all that.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #16390 on:** June 23, 2015, 08:32:16 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on June 23, 2015, 06:37:58 PM

Yeah, he's just wrong. The league isn't appreciably more individual-oriented than it was 10 or 20 years ago. It's old man yells at cloud stuff.

It's really weird to see people seemingly completely forget the Jordan years - even the guy who coached Jordan. And it's even weirder how many of these lapses of memory often seem to creep up when talking about James. Just a couple weeks ago it was about how Jordan would never say he's the greatest player in the world, wasn't a dramatic show off, blah blah blah. Seriously?

Am_I_Anonymous · « **Reply #16391 on:** June 23, 2015, 09:03:47 PM »

Quote from: The Walrus on June 23, 2015, 08:45:04 PM

Quote from: jakefromstatefarm on June 23, 2015, 07:58:51 PM
So Karl and DMC haven't spoken to each other since April, Ranadive and Divac have sat on their hands for the past 2 months and DMC's camp just leaked trade talk rumors 2 days before the draft, which the kings FO has staunchly denied.

Rumor is:
Lakers - Boogie/6th
Kings - Randle/Vucevic/5th
Magic - 2nd

Karl also threw out a deal to send Cousins to Denver for Lawson and Faried (lol). Sacramento has the option of a) firing Karl, which they should do anyway, or b) exchange probably the best center in the league over the next 5 years for spare parts. Rondo and the Kings have mutual interest in a one year deal; they're also looking to move Gay.

So the Magic trade Vucevic to move up 3 spots? They must be extremely high on Okafor.

Nah you didn't pay attention to the end of the season where we saw Vucevic's ceiling. He's not going to be what you think he is.

bluemax · « **Reply #16392 on:** June 23, 2015, 11:10:31 PM »

Quote from: jakefromstatefarm on June 23, 2015, 07:58:51 PM

So Karl and DMC haven't spoken to each other since April, Ranadive and Divac have sat on their hands for the past 2 months and DMC's camp just leaked trade talk rumors 2 days before the draft, which the kings FO has staunchly denied.

Rumor is:
Lakers - Boogie/6th
Kings - Randle/Vucevic/5th
Magic - 2nd

Karl also threw out a deal to send Cousins to Denver for Lawson and Faried (lol). Sacramento has the option of a) firing Karl, which they should do anyway, or b) exchange probably the best center in the league over the next 5 years for spare parts. Rondo and the Kings have mutual interest in a one year deal; they're also looking to move Gay.

Why would the Magic trade Vucevic for a guy whose upside is Vucevic?

jakefromstatefarm · « **Reply #16393 on:** June 24, 2015, 12:05:24 AM »

Quote from: bluemax on June 23, 2015, 11:10:31 PM

Why would the Magic trade Vucevic for a guy whose upside is Vucevic?

I dunno, Jahlil's upside is better than being able to put up 19/10 on a garbage team by the time he's 24 imo

Quote from: Am_I_Anonymous on June 23, 2015, 09:03:47 PM

Nah you didn't pay attention to the end of the season where we saw Vucevic's ceiling. He's not going to be what you think he is.

I'm checking the game logs, last 10 games of the season he averaged 18.8/10/3 on 51% shooting, the last 25, 19/10.5/2 on 50% sohh...

I def think his scoring numbers are inflated given his team is trash but he's clearly a worthwhile piece and has value in the trade market

naff · « **Reply #16394 on:** June 24, 2015, 12:52:50 AM »

Quote from: jakefromstatefarm on June 23, 2015, 07:58:51 PM

Karl also threw out a deal to send Cousins to Denver for Lawson and Faried (lol).

Would be hilarious

Karl fired by Nuggets, Malone Fired by Sacramento, Malone hired by Nuggets, Karl Hired by Sacramento. Boogie misses Malone :'( Boogie dealt to Denver

Kings get what they deserve

bluemax · « **Reply #16395 on:** June 24, 2015, 02:40:46 AM »

Kings reportedly interested in Javale McGee.

Aron Afflalo opted out of his contract.

Karl just gonna reassemble his Denver squad in Sactown.

Am_I_Anonymous · « **Reply #16396 on:** June 24, 2015, 07:04:16 AM »

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2015/06/executives_reportedly_believe.html#incart_m-rpt-1

benjipwns · « **Reply #16397 on:** June 24, 2015, 07:07:18 AM »

Love for Cousins and Rudy Gay amirite

Am_I_Anonymous · « **Reply #16398 on:** June 24, 2015, 07:15:48 AM »

Quote from: benjipwns on June 24, 2015, 07:07:18 AM

Love and Haywood's corpse for Cousins and Rudy Gay amirite

I'd be okay with that

Edit: Fixed

benjipwns · « **Reply #16399 on:** June 24, 2015, 09:00:45 AM »

Hawks new jerseys leaked...I feel like we're repeating the 1990's errors again:
https://cmgajcatlantahawks.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/uniforms.pdf

Am_I_Anonymous · « **Reply #16400 on:** June 24, 2015, 09:15:09 AM »

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #16401 on:** June 24, 2015, 09:38:45 AM »

That ATL logo is sweet though.

Am_I_Anonymous · « **Reply #16402 on:** June 24, 2015, 09:55:24 AM »

Quote from: ToxicAdam on June 24, 2015, 09:38:45 AM

That ATL logo is sweet though.

Reminds me of the outside of them triple fat goose vests that were the shit for about 1 year in 1998

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #16403 on:** June 24, 2015, 11:39:59 AM »

Ugh, those are gross looking

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #16404 on:** June 24, 2015, 03:07:14 PM »

I think so as well

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #16405 on:** June 24, 2015, 05:01:30 PM »

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/report--kevin-love-opts-out-of-final-year-of-contract--enters-unrestricted-free-agency-183537706.html

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #16406 on:** June 24, 2015, 05:08:33 PM »

It was known that he was going to do that.

Which is not to say that he's necessarily going back to the Cavs.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #16407 on:** June 24, 2015, 05:14:11 PM »

Cavs should want him back, and Love SHOULD want to stay for one more year. If he leaves I wouldn't be surprised, but I expect him to stay.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #16408 on:** June 24, 2015, 11:30:02 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on June 24, 2015, 05:14:11 PM

Cavs should want him back, and Love SHOULD want to stay for one more year. If he leaves I wouldn't be surprised, but I expect him to stay.

I think they should keep him (and not max Thompson) but if they couldn't, a swap with Marcus Aldridge wouldn't be bad at all.

bluemax · « **Reply #16409 on:** June 24, 2015, 11:32:03 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on June 24, 2015, 11:30:02 PM

Quote from: BrandNew on June 24, 2015, 05:14:11 PM

Cavs should want him back, and Love SHOULD want to stay for one more year. If he leaves I wouldn't be surprised, but I expect him to stay.

I think they should keep him (and not max Thompson) but if they couldn't, a swap with Marcus Aldridge wouldn't be bad at all.

I will be amazed if LaMarcus Aldridge lands on any non Portland team that is not located in Texas.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #16410 on:** June 24, 2015, 11:38:56 PM »

http://www.raptorshq.com/2015/6/24/8841073/report-raptors-actively-exploring-trades-for-kyle-lowry-demar-derozan

Who knows if it's true or not but kinda funny how one year can change the outlook on everything.

naff · « **Reply #16411 on:** June 24, 2015, 11:49:06 PM »

It's pretty solid he's resigning. If he doesn't though

Still shoulda kept Wiggins. Bron was wrong on that one.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #16412 on:** June 25, 2015, 10:45:05 AM »

LMA and Lakers mutual interest...

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #16413 on:** June 25, 2015, 01:40:12 PM »

Quote

Chad FordVerified account
‏@chadfordinsider
2. Frank the Tank is on fire. Phil Jackson loves him. So does Vlade Divac. Michael Jordan won't pass on him at 9. 4-9 his new range.

Please let Phil Jackson take him. Please!

Beezy · « **Reply #16414 on:** June 25, 2015, 05:05:21 PM »

You can all fuck off.

benjipwns · « **Reply #16415 on:** June 25, 2015, 05:31:35 PM »

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13148737/sacramento-kings-owner-vivek-ranadive-considering-firing-coach-george-karl

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Sacramento Kings owner Vivek Ranadive has considered firing George Karl, who was hired as coach four months ago to help turn around the struggling franchise.

Ranadive's displeasure with Karl stems from the coach's desire to trade All-Star center DeMarcus Cousins, according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

benjipwns · « **Reply #16416 on:** June 25, 2015, 05:33:04 PM »

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The Hornets acquired wing Nicolas Batum from the Portland Trail Blazers on Wednesday night in exchange for guard Gerald Henderson and power forward Noah Vonleh.

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The Memphis Grizzlies have acquired forward Matt Barnes from the Charlotte Hornets for guard Luke Ridnour, who later was traded to Oklahoma City.

The Grizzlies intend to keep Barnes, sources said. Only $1 million of Barnes' $3.5 million salary is guaranteed if he's waived before Wednesday, but Memphis wants Barnes for perimeter depth.

Ridnour didn't stay in Charlotte long, as the Hornets traded him and a conditional 2016 second-round draft pick Thursday to the Thunder for guard Jeremy Lamb. That deal comes just a day after Ridnour was traded by the Orlando Magic to the Grizzlies.

Ridnour got traded three times in a day.

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Ridnour was drafted by the SuperSonics in 2003 and is the first Sonics player to return to the Thunder since they moved from Seattle to Oklahoma City in 2008

eleuin · « **Reply #16417 on:** June 25, 2015, 06:33:42 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on June 24, 2015, 11:38:56 PM

http://www.raptorshq.com/2015/6/24/8841073/report-raptors-actively-exploring-trades-for-kyle-lowry-demar-derozan

Who knows if it's true or not but kinda funny how one year can change the outlook on everything.

Hope somebody bites, should've gotten rid of their coach too but its a start

benjipwns · « **Reply #16418 on:** June 25, 2015, 06:55:49 PM »

Quote

The Blazers increasingly doubt LaMarcus Aldridge will re-sign with the team, and sources say "there's a 99.9 percent" chance he'll sign elsewhere.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #16419 on:** June 25, 2015, 07:46:30 PM »

Lakers think they have the new Kobe.

naff · « **Reply #16420 on:** June 25, 2015, 07:59:10 PM »

Would be good to see 'em get DmC or Aldridge now.

Who do the Sixers trade? Anticipate keeping Okafor and moving Embiid.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #16421 on:** June 25, 2015, 08:02:10 PM »

Kristaps Porzingis. Seems like a decent pick at the position but everybody says he won't be ready for years.

naff · « **Reply #16422 on:** June 25, 2015, 08:06:06 PM »

Still think Phil was just stirring with all that Kaminsky talk

Porzingis can shoot, I can see them using him some right now at the 4 while continuing to beef him up.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #16423 on:** June 25, 2015, 08:09:11 PM »

That 4th slot was brutal. One higher pick would have been amazing for the knicks.

dkdk · « **Reply #16424 on:** June 25, 2015, 08:09:29 PM »

porzingis is poster bait. he'll be out the league in 4 years due to a broken spirit.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #16425 on:** June 25, 2015, 08:14:58 PM »

Quote from: Butt Seriously on June 25, 2015, 08:06:06 PM

Still think Phil was just stirring with all that Kaminsky talk

Now I want Jordan to take him.

naff · « **Reply #16426 on:** June 25, 2015, 08:17:36 PM »

Quote from: dkdk on June 25, 2015, 08:09:29 PM

porzingis is poster bait. he'll be out the league in 4 years due to a broken spirit.

Pretty natural to see history repeating itself, though i like the comparisons to Dirk vs Chairman Yi or Milicic

Brehvolution · « **Reply #16427 on:** June 25, 2015, 08:22:07 PM »

Ya, it was getting a little weird waiting on which 7 foot white dude the Knicks were gonna take.

Beezy · « **Reply #16428 on:** June 25, 2015, 08:23:03 PM »

benjipwns · « **Reply #16429 on:** June 25, 2015, 08:35:43 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on June 25, 2015, 08:14:58 PM

Now I want Jordan to take him.

Since his scouting consists of watching the Final Four...

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #16430 on:** June 25, 2015, 08:37:57 PM »

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #16431 on:** June 25, 2015, 08:42:40 PM »

How long before Jordan comes to practice and calls Kaminsky a "flaming taco"

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #16432 on:** June 25, 2015, 09:35:09 PM »

Just got home

I knew I should have called that MJ would draft Kaminsky. I should have had that on record.

Knicks

Pistons

Johnson has some of the most awkward handles of any guard drafted in the top 20.

naff · « **Reply #16433 on:** June 25, 2015, 09:41:01 PM »

Trey Lyles

Jazz still gon be mediocre but fun to watch, with a little more depth. Bless their hearts

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #16434 on:** June 25, 2015, 09:42:01 PM »

https://twitter.com/ThatPersianGuy/status/614228091808927744

naff · « **Reply #16435 on:** June 25, 2015, 09:46:31 PM »

Kinda stoked they chose Porzingis, i think Phil will use him well, and if he turns out to be a bust just another opportunity for me to indulge in some schadenfreude

benjipwns · « **Reply #16436 on:** June 25, 2015, 09:58:08 PM »

I like the tradition of Jay Bilas pretending that every college player is going to be a super valuable role player for their team and not, you know, spend half their career in the D-League.

He usually keeps this up deep into the second round.

Am_I_Anonymous · « **Reply #16437 on:** June 25, 2015, 10:54:05 PM »

Although I would have liked that PG the cavs drafted I do like trading down for more depth.

jakefromstatefarm · « **Reply #16438 on:** June 25, 2015, 11:07:34 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on June 25, 2015, 09:35:09 PM

Johnson has some of the most awkward handles of any guard drafted in the top 20.

he handles the pick and roll just fine, it's not like hell be running an offense

He's got a good shot from the corner, big as shit, drives into contact and plays physically. Yeah Detroit should've taken winslow but Stanley will do just fine under SVG

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #16439 on:** June 25, 2015, 11:26:15 PM »

All I'm gonna say is lol Knicks and lol Hornets

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