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Title: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Eschaton on June 13, 2019, 02:07:43 PM
https://youtu.be/8939aURV9Dc
https://youtu.be/1wWkQXUMQYI
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: MMaRsu on June 13, 2019, 02:23:26 PM
Nah this game sucks ass, cant even dismember a fucking spider. Nevermind the fact it's tiny legs take like 4 hits * and it has a fucking health bar * and a lightsaber is supposed to be able to cut through steel right?

Also the animations look like garbage, it looks slow and boring af.

How can a game this old look so much better?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwiaRQdKt9g&t=13s

Cmon man, if you can't get the combat to this level at least don't even try. Another fail by Respawn
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: bluemax on June 18, 2019, 12:10:59 AM
So apparently this game might be more Batman Arkham/Metroid Prime than Uncharted?
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Svejk on June 18, 2019, 07:56:10 AM
Problem is, it falls around Def Stranding time..   priorities.  Will consider afterwards.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: mormapope on June 18, 2019, 10:16:08 AM
It looks like a very competent sequel to The Force Unleashed.

Which isn't terrible.....but there was a lot of hype surrounding this. If its like an Arkham game tho, I might bite.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: MMaRsu on June 18, 2019, 10:34:29 AM
I honestly feel like even TFU looks better, animations wise and combat wise as well.

https://youtu.be/FC2Lo0wJSuo

Look at how fast & fluid everything is. TFU II wasn't the greatest game, but at least it has dismemberment and humor ( with pickin up the stormtroopers and their lines etc ).

The new game looks super "serious" and also has terrible combat animations with jerky motions going from one animation to the other.

Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: toku on June 20, 2019, 11:30:40 PM
The Tony Mo video kinda sold me on it. Looks good to me idk why ppl are being so down on it.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 21, 2019, 01:45:39 AM
It looks a bit soulless to me

Like when I watch a star wars trailer I should have goosebumps
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Svejk on June 21, 2019, 08:40:45 AM
Let's be honest though... what other SW game let's you do this?

(https://media.giphy.com/media/QXJlhBsk7ICYVQjxSA/giphy.gif)

Kinda dope
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 21, 2019, 12:47:15 PM
Let's be honest though... what other SW game let's you do this?

(https://media.giphy.com/media/QXJlhBsk7ICYVQjxSA/giphy.gif)

Kinda dope

Battlegrounds as Vader?

Btw Battlegrounds captured the star wars feel 100%
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Don Rumata on June 21, 2019, 03:27:25 PM
The Tony Mo video kinda sold me on it. Looks good to me idk why ppl are being so down on it.
Animations look janky, story doesn't have any particularly creative hook (so far), and any non combat section looked extremely generic and bland.
It's supposed to be a Metroidvania though, so perhaps the best is yet to come.

I don't get the dismemberment cries either. The property is owned by Disney now and they're going to shoot for Teen ratings till the end of time for every Star Wars game ever.

I'm interested to see how much they let you level up, the main character is supposed to be a Padawan.
Dismemberment would make the game much better.
I wasn't expecting to see it, because it's Star Wars, which is ultimately a  kid's movie, but i was still hoping for it.
It just makes sense, with a light saber, plus it just feels incredibly satisfying in a game (see Ninja Gaiden 2).

Also the reason why in Phantom Menace they had so many droids as enemies, so they could dismember them in a PG environment.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 21, 2019, 05:02:21 PM
I swear people's tendency to bitch about video games is magnified exponentially when it's a STAR WAR game

Game will probably be a solid 7-8 type adventure game, why get your jimmies rustled, my brothers
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Don Rumata on June 21, 2019, 07:31:02 PM
I swear people's tendency to bitch about video games is magnified exponentially when it's a STAR WAR game

Game will probably be a solid 7-8 type adventure game, why get your jimmies rustled, my brothers
Nah, people use terms like "it's utter shit" for every videogame that's below an 8.
And SW games have been "below an 8" for a while now.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Also most Star Wars movies are below an 8, below a 7, even.
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Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: toku on June 21, 2019, 07:55:17 PM
https://www.gameinformer.com/feature/2019/06/08/the-true-power-of-the-force
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: toku on June 25, 2019, 12:09:50 PM
https://youtu.be/WXpxWy8DJSE
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Svejk on July 24, 2019, 01:24:17 PM
The pre-order on PSN is discounted at $53.99 atm for whatever reason...  discounted until 1/1/2199..  ???

https://store.playstation.com/en-us/product/UP0006-CUSA12539_00-RESPAWNSWBIRDDOG?utm_campaign=SEN%7CUS%7CB%7CGames%7CEvergreen%7CDesktop%7CTier%201%7CExact&utm_content=sCIbNfWGL&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_term=playstation%20store
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: naff on July 30, 2019, 07:13:11 PM
biggest thing that irks me is the protagonist looks like my little cousin if he never grew out of looking like a dickwad. just needs a green bay packers hat.  :-X
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: kingv on July 30, 2019, 08:13:53 PM
Anyone else getting really strong Sekiro vibes from this!!
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Don Rumata on July 30, 2019, 08:26:18 PM
Anyone else getting really strong Sekiro vibes from this!!
the devs, apparently.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: kingv on October 24, 2019, 10:16:47 AM
EA1: we just purchased Respawn, should we have them do a Star Wars game?
EA2: f yes, multiplayer focused Jedi game with wall running, and AI stormtroopers. Basically Titanfall with a Star Wars theme, it will be amazing. Does Star Wars have any mechs?!
EA1: no, it will be like dark souls.

Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Svejk on October 24, 2019, 10:56:05 AM
I say good, let them branch out.  Seemed to work for Guerilla.  They're certainly talented enough.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: toku on October 24, 2019, 11:12:28 AM
Keep in mind this is totally a different team from Titanfall/Apex that was built explicitly to make this game. They have an ex-God of War dev leading them iirc. Looks solid to me. I trust Respawn though.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Svejk on October 24, 2019, 12:04:52 PM
If TLOU2 is indeed delayed for a few months, this may take it's place on my gaming agenda.  Should be half price by then.  :heh
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: kingv on October 24, 2019, 12:14:31 PM
Keep in mind this is totally a different team from Titanfall/Apex that was built explicitly to make this game. They have an ex-God of War dev leading them iirc. Looks solid to me. I trust Respawn though.

That makes sense and I didn’t realize that.

I do already have it preordered on strength of the respawn name.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Human Snorenado on October 24, 2019, 12:32:01 PM
I preordered it, it's like $51 on Amazon, looks good and I like killing things with a laser sword as a space wizard

:yeshrug
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: chronovore on October 25, 2019, 02:14:05 AM
Nah this game sucks ass, cant even dismember a fucking spider. Nevermind the fact it's tiny legs take like 4 hits * and it has a fucking health bar * and a lightsaber is supposed to be able to cut through steel right?

Also the animations look like garbage, it looks slow and boring af.

How can a game this old look so much better?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwiaRQdKt9g&t=13s

Cmon man, if you can't get the combat to this level at least don't even try. Another fail by Respawn

Are those unmodified graphics? I have trouble believing those aren't somehow enhanced.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Nintex on October 25, 2019, 03:47:00 AM
Looks like the PC version in HD nothing seems modded otherwise
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Svejk on October 29, 2019, 11:51:02 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIl2z5wwjdA
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: paprikastaude on October 29, 2019, 12:11:13 PM
looks like Uncharted trash since E3
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 29, 2019, 02:19:56 PM
I like this new trailer, just a shame the main dude looks like a Saturday morning cartoon
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Svejk on October 29, 2019, 02:48:26 PM
Really wish they at least did the AC: Odyssey route in terms of having more than one choice of a main character. 
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: TEEEPO on October 29, 2019, 07:13:23 PM
the game is non-linear? :hyper

Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: chronovore on October 31, 2019, 02:26:10 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIl2z5wwjdA

Weird, this made it feel like an Xbox exclusive.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 31, 2019, 08:09:26 AM
Maybe because of the Kotor vibes
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: MMaRsu on November 04, 2019, 06:51:35 PM
weak ass fake lightsaber bullshit

enemies with healthbars  :lol

Seems up Borys his alley tho
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: headwalk on November 04, 2019, 06:59:23 PM
jackfrags is the worst kind of shill. after his channel blew up prior to BF3 he became EA's #1 useful idiot when it came to putting positive spin for battlefield, now the cunt practically works in house for them with fuck all disclosure.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: toku on November 04, 2019, 09:48:13 PM
imagine being a hater, couldn't be me
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Don Rumata on November 04, 2019, 10:00:20 PM
Animations still look janky af, but the game looks decent, if sort of by the numbers.
Though let's be honest, the heavy lifting here is done by the license, and the reality of an industry who collectively has been utterly incapable of capitalizing on the brand in the last 15(?) years at least.
Anything half decent set in the Star Wars universe, will look better than it is, for that reason.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Nuitangg on November 10, 2019, 09:06:54 AM
40% off through Target's app.  Will still wait for EA Access.  :lol
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Nintex on November 10, 2019, 10:23:29 AM
Goddamn, the bullshit of that Jack Frag video is off the charts

"It might look easy but this B-roll footage is probably been played by someone who has a lot of experience with the game.
We can expect that on higher difficulty levels, it'll be very close to Dark Souls."

"These puzzle areas are very dense. At the event some journalists spend 3 hours to complete this Zelda or Tomb Raider like dungeon area"

It all comes down to:
- How long this game is (8 hours or more like 20 like God of War?)
- How in depth the mechanics are (anything beyond fighting 3 storm troopers at a time? Any new weapons/upgrades?)

Overall it seems like the most standard Star Wars game you can create so it is exactly what we think it is. Depending on the money hats it'll likely review around the 70/80 mark.
Because it is one of the few games launching this holiday season with mainstream appeal It'll probably do well around launch and then drop to $30 or $20 by February next year.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Svejk on November 10, 2019, 11:48:42 AM
I'll just wait for Star War: Fallen Pre-Order Price.    :rimshot
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: MMaRsu on November 10, 2019, 01:53:40 PM
weak ass fake lightsaber bullshit

enemies with healthbars  :lol

Seems up Borys his alley tho

:umad

MMaRsu is on point. Garbage looking game compared to Jedi Knigts.

Sorry man I bitched out there
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: naff on November 10, 2019, 03:58:13 PM
when are you not a lame bitch tho?
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: MMaRsu on November 11, 2019, 06:15:21 AM
when are you not a lame bitch tho?

when im cumming over your moms tits
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: HardcoreRetro on November 11, 2019, 11:30:44 AM
His mum must've been super impressed when she took the little card out of the roses you brought her and it said: "Do you like getting choked?"
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: MMaRsu on November 11, 2019, 11:33:14 AM
well naturally, everybody knows cougars like a good choking
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: toku on November 13, 2019, 10:56:03 PM
why are you guys like this
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: chronovore on November 14, 2019, 12:30:35 AM
why are you guys like this
Yeah, it's sad when I expect something insightful and I walk into a couple of 13-year-olds having a "YOUR MOM" contest.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: team filler on November 14, 2019, 01:03:39 AM
typical racist hindutva  ::)
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Trent Dole on November 14, 2019, 04:41:04 AM
Maybe in a few months for $20 or whenever it shows up on game pass if I bother keeping that beyond the six months they gave me. :yeshrug
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Nuitangg on November 15, 2019, 12:12:07 AM
Good reviews so far. 
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Don Rumata on November 15, 2019, 12:47:06 AM
Good reviews so far.
Seems like an 7.5/8 kind of game.
Which was expected but it's nice to see.

Personally my only two gripes so far (from looking at footage) are the bad animations and the ugly as fuck main protagonist.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: paprikastaude on November 15, 2019, 12:47:35 AM
Good reviews so far.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buL5UtyuLuI

seems potentially okay. why does the main guy have to be such a giant dork though.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Don Rumata on November 15, 2019, 12:53:02 AM
Easy Allies are always way too high with their scores though.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: benjipwns on November 15, 2019, 01:32:49 AM
why does the main guy have to be such a giant dork though.
canon-accuracy
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: paprikastaude on November 15, 2019, 02:15:46 AM
Easy Allies are always way too high with their scores though.

That's why I said could be okay. I just picked a review with proper video material.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 15, 2019, 03:25:50 AM
Is this game about Space Wizards 60fps on the consoles
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Svejk on November 15, 2019, 07:51:46 AM
But it's a Souls-like, Borys... shouldn't you tack on platinum #12??

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/055/492/5f6.gif)
 ;)
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Tasty on November 15, 2019, 10:34:29 AM
but then I really loved the Force Unleashed 1&2...

:yikes
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: MMaRsu on November 15, 2019, 12:37:18 PM
but then I really loved the Force Unleashed 1&2...

:yikes

they were decent
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Don Rumata on November 15, 2019, 12:53:59 PM
but then I really loved the Force Unleashed 1&2...

:yikes

they were decent
1 was decent, 2 was horrid.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: kingv on November 15, 2019, 01:08:11 PM
I liked both force unleaded, but 1 was better. 2 was basically just new levels and felt more cheaply done.... IIRC.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: demi on November 15, 2019, 02:28:13 PM
(https://abload.de/img/giphytuk0g.gif)

Exciting Souls gameplay

https://clips.twitch.tv/DifficultBrainySharkOSkomodo
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 15, 2019, 02:43:29 PM
Just play some more Code Vein instead, Borys.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Nintex on November 15, 2019, 07:58:43 PM
Anyone playing this?

It reviewed better than I expected
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Nuitangg on November 15, 2019, 08:06:13 PM
I planned on waiting for a discount but Origin Premier for a month is not a bad deal.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: chronovore on November 15, 2019, 09:11:48 PM
Swear to god I don't think a clip of a popular streamer streaming a game has ever not made me want to commit genocide.

It's one of the things I dislike intensely about current "gamer culture."

Note: I'm not counting gamergate in that category. #GG is categorized under "troll," "douche," "disingenuous & lazy," or "rrrreeeeeeee" depending on source.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: chronovore on November 15, 2019, 09:25:23 PM
why does the main guy have to be such a giant dork though.
canon-accuracy

You beat me to it.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: TVC15 on November 15, 2019, 10:45:35 PM
Would this be good to flex my new pc or does it not look so much better than the console version?
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: kingv on November 15, 2019, 11:29:47 PM
I liked both force unleaded, but 1 was better. 2 was basically just new levels and felt more cheaply done.... IIRC.


I'm pretty sure 2 was literally not even half as long as 1. It was basically an expansion pack.

Wasn’t one canon at the time, for that version of how EU stuff worked in Canon?

And then tfu2 like fucked it all up somehow?
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Coffee Dog on November 16, 2019, 04:05:39 AM
I grabbed a month of origin premiere. Overall it is exactly what it seems like; a knock off of dark souls with very nice graphics and very good music. Knocked out a couple planets, mostly just hope you start fighting more troopers than I already am. They have the best AI/squad makeups. Fighting animals just blows, they dont do anything interesting, alien or unique, they just lunge at you with jank hitboxes.

Also the amount of pointless climbing is still just, so dumb. I need to get to the top of this cliff? Oh no, I cant just find a way to restart an old elevator or something, this mountain has been laced with garbage, ropes and debris specifically to ascend with.  :lol

Best detail: the different saber crystals have different ignition noises. Green sounds best.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: TVC15 on November 16, 2019, 08:52:03 AM
How Soulsy is it in regards to difficulty? Am I going to be dying and retrying every 5 minutes?
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Don Rumata on November 16, 2019, 09:17:23 AM
How Soulsy is it in regards to difficulty? Am I going to be dying and retrying every 5 minutes?
It's a mainstream game with difficulty settings, so i seriously doubt it.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Nintex on November 16, 2019, 12:20:30 PM
Welp got out and got it for the Xbox One X.

Pretty great so far.

I am a Jedi Master brehs

(https://abload.de/img/1573940630121wyjal.jpeg)
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: paprikastaude on November 16, 2019, 06:16:25 PM
How Soulsy is it in regards to difficulty? Am I going to be dying and retrying every 5 minutes?

It's pretty forgiving. You cant dynasty warriors it but the parry windows are long at the default difficulty and you've usually got plenty of dodge roll time.

Minimal amount of focus required in a game? DARK SOULS!  :brain
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Nintex on November 16, 2019, 07:17:50 PM
Dark Souls vibes can be found in the combat system and some enemy placement. (for example, goat like enemies throwing you from a mountain (or throwing Storm Troopers off a mountain lol)).

This game mostly reminds me of the new Tomb Raider games.
Especially with all the climbing, finding secret caches/artifacts and the occasional playable cinematic action scene.
Some Metroid Prime in there too, mostly the map and opening up areas with new abilities and shortcuts.

Stellar game so far compared to most of EA's library this past .... decade. I'm playing on the middle difficulty which certainly has a nice challenge to it.
You die more than in most AAA+ games. I appreciate the effort of Respawn in not making it an average AAA action game.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: bluemax on November 17, 2019, 03:16:16 AM
(https://abload.de/img/giphytuk0g.gif)

Exciting Souls gameplay

https://clips.twitch.tv/DifficultBrainySharkOSkomodo

Fucking MoonMoon subs.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Coffee Dog on November 17, 2019, 05:24:24 AM
Combat definitely showing wear and tear 3-4 levels in the game. The overly flourishy style of the protagonist grates when it results in every enemy being able to attack faster than your basic saber strike. The dodge roll is spotty, with it unreliable on some tracking moves (animals mostly). It really feels like shit when large enemies/golems take 10-12 hits to die while not reacting to your attacks. Everything big blows to fight. Your force powers fucking blowww on anything that's above a stormtrooper. While death is frequent, it doesn't feel meaningful, random shitter jabs will clock you for like 75% of your health on hard, which in a not particularly precise combat system (that is ripped off from a game where you fight far fewer opponents) will lead to moments where you get opened up and die in a second because some dog snapped at you as you unleashed your opening pirrouette and now you have to make a wallrun of shame back to where you died, as every level uses the same few elements (wall running, slowing platforms with force, climbing, walking across beams, swinging from rope)

Not all bad though. Troopers are still great. Luckily there is a spider that shoots goop and webs you, so there is at least one animal that's fun to fight. Puzzles are fine. Jumping is way, way too repetetive to illicit any sort of emotional reaction or decision making, it's just numb, especially if you die in an area.

I paid fifteen bucks for this and think its worth that price. I wouldn't call it especially good at really anything. It's a star wars adventure and that's it. If it continues with no improvements i'll probably end up liking force unleashed more, because both these games are jank as fuck and at least that one had a crazy concept and you hunted jedi.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Human Snorenado on November 17, 2019, 01:26:42 PM
I pretty much agree with Jim here, game is solid and fun but not really anything special; it probably feels more like it just because it's an EA joint and the shock of them not EA'ing all over it is kinda shocking. The combat is ok, the platforming stuff is mostly annoying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPXhyQ5S-nQ
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Nintex on November 17, 2019, 01:46:00 PM
Now that I've played a dungeon it reminds me even more of the new Tomb Raider games.
I really liked those so I really like this game as well. I generally enjoy platforming in games like Assassins Creed and Tomb Raider too so this game ticks off the right boxes for me.

It might be a placebo effect but it feels like Cal's movement and reaction time speeds up every time he restores his 'connection to the force' with a new skill.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on November 17, 2019, 05:20:52 PM
It's very much a tomb raider/uncharted with some sekiro light moments. I kind of like it.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: chronovore on November 17, 2019, 11:21:37 PM
You guys are really making me want to play this.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on November 18, 2019, 10:34:16 AM
You guys are really making me want to play this.

It's not a fantastic game by any means, but it is mostly good fun, with a bit too much extremely boring platforming, and a bit buggy at times (and apparently performing really bad on some consoles).


Get it for a month through EA's game pass imo. I doubt many will be going back to it in a year.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 19, 2019, 08:36:00 AM
Game mechanics are real fun.  Solid 7.5-8 so far
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: kingv on November 19, 2019, 08:59:49 AM
Played an hour last night, basically the tutorial mission. It really nails the Star Wars feel. The
Music and the situations feel very Star Wars.

Too bad all the humans live in the uncanny valley though, but everything else seems solid.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: El Babua on November 19, 2019, 11:17:28 AM
Game's fun, but all the mechanics feel so floaty, especially compared to the games Respawn stole them from.

Also stutters quite a bit on PC. Otherwise, getting around 85-110 FPS during normal gameplay on a combo of High and Epic settings at 1440P
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: MMaRsu on November 20, 2019, 12:03:29 PM
eh its ok
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Coffee Dog on November 20, 2019, 01:03:50 PM
This game's combat has really grated on me towards the end. The enemies just resist your already shit force powers, and many of your moves are too unsafe to use aggressively. dark Souls but janky and buggy and slow is not this game's strong suit, and i just want to go to a big imperial base to end the game already, because it's not getting any deeper or more interesting.

Also, bosses are  :snore
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Coffee Dog on November 20, 2019, 02:04:33 PM
Seems like a good 3 day Redbox?

Yeah. It's overall still fine enough. I'm starting to get tired of it but its very clearly wrapping up soon.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Nintex on November 20, 2019, 06:01:45 PM
There seems to be an order to this game (pun intended) I went to Dathromir(??) before Kashyyyk and got absolutely wrecked.  :doge
Then noped out, went to Kashyyyk and made progress pretty quickly.  8)
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: BIONIC on November 20, 2019, 07:07:00 PM
There seems to be an order to this game (pun intended) I went to Dathromir(??) before Kashyyyk and got absolutely wrecked.  :doge
Then noped out, went to Kashyyyk and made progress pretty quickly.  8)

I’d go back to Dathomir before going to Kashyyyk for a second time. Should be a lot more manageable. There’s a seemingly optional upgrade there you don’t want to miss :-*

Anyways, this is a pretty good kideo game. Level and puzzle design is pretty cool. Combat is fun, but janky unfortunately. Too much animation priority, and enemies that can’t be parried, or can be, but fucking counter immediately after so it’s not even worth it. You can learn the tells pretty quick though, so it’s not really that big of a deal.

Overall, I’m pleasantly surprised. Though not done yet, so we'll see how things shakeout.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: chronovore on November 20, 2019, 09:45:50 PM
You guys are really making me want to play this.

It's not a fantastic game by any means, but it is mostly good fun, with a bit too much extremely boring platforming, and a bit buggy at times (and apparently performing really bad on some consoles).


Get it for a month through EA's game pass imo. I doubt many will be going back to it in a year.

Friend from work sent me a code for Deluxe Edition on XB1.

Now I'm gonna buy an Xbone.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Trent Dole on November 20, 2019, 09:51:32 PM
You can cop an S for $200 on Black Friday or an X for I think $400 (or maybe $350 some places).
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: chronovore on November 20, 2019, 11:15:48 PM
You can cop an S for $200 on Black Friday or an X for I think $400 (or maybe $350 some places).

Thanks.
I'm in Japan, where the console is incredibly unpopular, so I'm probably going to pick one up for even less than that!
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Don Rumata on November 21, 2019, 05:43:03 AM
There seems to be an order to this game (pun intended) I went to Dathromir(??) before Kashyyyk and got absolutely wrecked.  :doge
Then noped out, went to Kashyyyk and made progress pretty quickly.  8)
Dathomir was one of the endgame areas in Star Wars Galaxies too, so it makes sense. ;)
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: kingv on November 21, 2019, 09:20:24 AM
You can cop an S for $200 on Black Friday or an X for I think $400 (or maybe $350 some places).

Thanks.
I'm in Japan, where the console is incredibly unpopular, so I'm probably going to pick one up for even less than that!

It will feel good to look at the sales tracking and go “yep, that’s me, I’m one of those 25 Xboxes”
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 21, 2019, 09:35:23 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6M2F1BVyCc
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on November 21, 2019, 11:00:04 AM
well making a boss do some bug animation into a wall, is 100% dark souls.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Coffee Dog on November 22, 2019, 12:50:47 PM
I stopped playing probably an hour before the end of the game. The fights were only getting less fun and I'm sick of climbing shit. I'll see if I feel like getting to the credits before my origin subscription comes up. Overall I have a higher opinion of Force Unleashed because at least it wasn't canon and involved Vader and Palpatine rather than a couple generics that I have no emotions for. And that game had that silly shit where all the Troopers had AI to try and grab on to shit while you picked them up.  :lol
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: kingv on November 22, 2019, 01:25:09 PM
Cere looks like she has Graves Disease. Like... wtf?
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Nintex on November 23, 2019, 10:39:36 AM
Got up to some crashed star destroyer thing.
This is definitely has Metroid vibes  :rejoice

These past 2/3 hours of gameplay since I landed on Kashyyyk and returned to Zeffo have been crazy good.

Also getting the hang of combat and simply murdering storm troopers left and right.  8)
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: toku on November 23, 2019, 11:13:18 AM
sounding up my alley
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Nintex on November 23, 2019, 09:23:27 PM
Everyone I've shown this game to is impressed with:
- How good it looks
- How it is not a linear action game
- How it doesn't feel like an EA micro transaction GaaS

It's kinda weird that the AAA+ Star Wars game is the sleeper hit of the year but next to Control is kinda is  :doge
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: BIONIC on November 24, 2019, 12:26:02 AM
Finished it last night.

Pretty fun game overall.

Good level design and puzzles, and good enemy variety.

Although conceptually good, combat can be disgustingly janky and often times frustrating. Please poach a couple of designers from From for a possible sequel.

Story ends like a wet fart, but given the timeline, there wasn’t much they could do about it I’m guessing.

Would buy a sequel with more polish.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: chronovore on November 26, 2019, 03:57:00 AM
I stopped playing probably an hour before the end of the game. The fights were only getting less fun and I'm sick of climbing shit. I'll see if I feel like getting to the credits before my origin subscription comes up. Overall I have a higher opinion of Force Unleashed because at least it wasn't canon and involved Vader and Palpatine rather than a couple generics that I have no emotions for. And that game had that silly shit where all the Troopers had AI to try and grab on to shit while you picked them up.  :lol

At the time of its release, Star Wars: The Force Unleashed was counted as canon. The game stuff is probably part of what's considered LEGENDS canon, after Disney took over the property.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Human Snorenado on November 27, 2019, 02:44:57 PM
Game doing well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDy5j_9X_EQ

Took a break probably half way-ish through to cat ass the latest D3 season, but I'll be back to finish it off soon
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Nintex on November 28, 2019, 06:06:02 PM
The second time on Kashyyyk  :o

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I now have a double light saber, which is really cool. But the Ninth Sister is kicking my ass. Nearly got her on my last try and will certainly slay her soon.
If anything this game convinced me there's still some life in the 'ol Star Wars yet.
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Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Don Rumata on November 29, 2019, 05:21:02 AM
Started this.
The Star Wars vibes are good, but tbh after Control, this feels incredibly janky (and somewhat boring) to actually play.
Titanfall2's campaign was a masterpiece though, so i have some faith.

Westerners can't into melee combat though, this reinforces my prejudice.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Trent Dole on November 29, 2019, 06:41:57 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78vQacqkCbE
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: TVC15 on November 29, 2019, 07:25:52 AM
That looks a lot jankier than I was expecting based on the review scores. I know it’s a dunkey video and all, but even the non-joke-parts looked unpolished given the obvious huge budget.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Don Rumata on November 29, 2019, 07:35:25 AM
That looks a lot jankier than I was expecting based on the review scores. I know it’s a dunkey video and all, but even the non-joke-parts looked unpolished given the obvious huge budget.
I only played a couple of hours, but it does feel very janky
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: MMaRsu on November 29, 2019, 08:55:44 AM
That looks a lot jankier than I was expecting based on the review scores. I know it’s a dunkey video and all, but even the non-joke-parts looked unpolished given the obvious huge budget.

Its jank city
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: paprikastaude on November 29, 2019, 10:00:07 AM
:kobeyuck Was gonna wait for it to hit 20 bucks or lower anyway, but now might as well wait for the GotY edition to hit that price.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Nintex on November 30, 2019, 11:43:42 AM
Went back to a planet to explore a crash site. This is the most Metroid thing we'll see this console generation  :'(
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Nintex on December 01, 2019, 07:59:55 AM
https://twitter.com/Nohryl/status/1200849678876790784 (https://twitter.com/Nohryl/status/1200849678876790784)

Star Wars: Dark Raider Prime Adventure 64  8)
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Nintex on December 01, 2019, 01:44:01 PM
This is the most Metroid thing we'll see this console generation  :'(

I guess you never played a souls game which this game clearly takes inspiration from, or the countless metroidvanias out of the indie scene.
Souls games are cool but have nothing to do with space and planet exploration. Same with Control that also has some Metroid elements.
99.99% of indie Metroidvania's are 2D. 3D holo maps are also quite rare.

I can't think of any game that comes closer to Metroid Prime this generation.

Even the Zeffo / Chozo with their spheres are oddly the same  :doge
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: team filler on December 01, 2019, 02:28:22 PM
exploring an alien world  :lawd
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Don Rumata on December 01, 2019, 02:33:20 PM
Played some Zeffo planet until i unlocked the push power.

This game feels miserable to play  :notlikethis

It's like playing Sekiro with frostbite on your fingers.
Dodges are slow and cover a tiny distance, attacks have a slow start time, and can't even combo shit properly, movement itself is slow to react even if animations don't even blend fluidly together.

Seriously, if this didn't have the Star Wars coat over it, i don't think i'd even give it a second more.
Certainly won't be saved by the story.

So far, only the maps were kind of neat, with a lot of shortcuts, even though the platforming is sort of basic, and so are the "puzzles"... but at least it's pretty.

Other people seem to like it, but i have a hard time believing that if people weren't so desperate for a success story, when it comes to a Star Wars game, this wouldn't have gotten a harsher judgment.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Nintex on December 01, 2019, 05:30:46 PM
Almost no Metroid deals with "space" exploration, MP3 I guess fits but really space in that might as well have been a hub world dividing somewhat linear planets.

And if your only criteria is "exploring a planet" in 3D IE it's sci fi and 3D then that's just moving goal posts. Also if it really needs holo-maps then you unintentionally made Doom 2016 count.

It's just odd to me that you use that as a metric when most 2D and 3D games have overt metroidvania elements nowadays when they aren't straight up open world.
Those were just examples of Metroid Prime-y elements in Fallen Order.
There's also the elevator shortcuts, fighting the flora and fauna.
There's even war wasps and it includes scanning.

There's just two things missing: morph ball puzzles and a first person perspective with a gun other than that pretty much all Metroid Prime game elements are in there.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: HardcoreRetro on December 03, 2019, 09:34:47 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN6ygnYvnPg
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: TakingBackSunday on December 03, 2019, 09:54:02 AM
he likes everyone's posts
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Coffee Dog on December 03, 2019, 10:12:26 AM
Metroid would be a much different and much worse experience if literally every optional path led to boring ass cosmetics like this game does. This game makes me put scare quotes around the word """exploration""".
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 03, 2019, 03:27:43 PM
It's five years after Revenge of the Sith/order 66
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: chronovore on December 03, 2019, 07:44:23 PM
(…)

Other people seem to like it, but i have a hard time believing that if people weren't so desperate for a success story, when it comes to a Star Wars game, this wouldn't have gotten a harsher judgment.

That’s like saying The Beatles Rock Band would have been judged more harshly if it wasn’t for the Beatles music. sure, it is inherently true: the license game has several things it does less well than the mainline game, but it’s the only way you’re getting the music of The Beatles.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Don Rumata on December 04, 2019, 08:18:08 AM
I agree with all of that, and if i think about the fun i had with Jedi Outcast & Academy (and even Force Unleashed 1, which at least had euphoria and DMM to play with) i'm kind of flabbergasted this didn't get trashed in reviews.
I'll finish it though, sunken cost and all that.

I'm also particularly annoyed how every star wars story seems to be exactly the fucking same, is this a practical joke? A conspiracy? I guess they wanted to play it extra safe with this one, but God almighty is it uninteresting to see the same fucking plot developments for all these cardboard characters, for the millionth time.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Pissy F Benny on December 04, 2019, 08:27:15 AM
I think it’s getting a pass cos ea released a single player story based star war that’s not monetised to fuck (as far as I know).

You’ll appreciate a spoon full of gruel if you’ve been fed shit for the last 5 years.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Don Rumata on December 04, 2019, 03:30:29 PM
Finished the game.
Yeah, a 6/10 at most.

This made me revaluate Dad of War, that combat system was a pure diamond by comparison.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Don Rumata on December 06, 2019, 03:34:06 PM
God of War is a legit 10/10 game. For some unknown reason the well known trolls here try to bring this game down because it's not DMC5 or whatever.

Stay losing, weebs.
I couldn't even finish the demo of DMC5, let alone play the full game. 
Whatever fantasy keeps you sleeping at night, though. :doge

GoW was an alright game, with amazing production values.
The story was lame, the combat was just pretty good, and the pacing was atrocious.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: FatalT on December 07, 2019, 01:08:26 AM
I thought this was a horrible game after first finishing it but I was coming off of a Death Stranding high. I've since played it again (well at least until my Origin Premier runs out this month) and I've enjoyed it but honestly it still does feel like Tomb Raider or Uncharted with a Souls-like combat system to me. Not to say that's a bad combination but it could have definitely been a lot better if there were more powers introduced. I understand Cal is a Padawan and no one is really around to teach him anything new but it still just mostly felt like you were limited to blocking blaster shots and breaking enemies' guards until you could damage them, then repeating the process until they were dead. I'll probably end up giving it another run-through before the subscription ends to appreciate it more but I'm not entirely sure it's worth all the praise it received. It was a fun, enjoyable game but didn't really do much new.

I'd probably give it a 9/10 because it's just a blast to play (even with all that criticism) but I also played it on a decent PC so I didn't experience any bugs or glitches. I was mostly just soured by the last few bits of the game and a few boss fights where the difficulty escalates ten-fold out of nowhere. Outside of those experiences I definitely would like to see a sequel or a series made from this. It's more fun than feeling like an absolute beast like in the Force Unleashed games but I'd still like to have at least SOME of that UULLLTIMATE POOWWAAAHHH. Maybe in a sequel?

EDIT: I don't see a comparison to Devil May Cry with this game at all. Again, to me, it feels more like Uncharted/Tomb Raider with Souls-like combat, Sekiro in particular.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: paprikastaude on December 07, 2019, 01:33:56 AM
GoW is a 10/10 in aggressively handholding you through a pretentious crap story. Game was only saved by sidecontent that left you alone from that shit.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 07, 2019, 01:57:20 AM
Eh GoW is 8/10. Pretty fun game if limited combat. Goes on a bit too long.

Haven't really had time to play this game though.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: TEEEPO on December 07, 2019, 02:10:45 AM
God of War is a legit 10/10 game. For some unknown reason the well known trolls here try to bring this game down because it's not DMC5 or whatever.

Stay losing, weebs.

 :preach
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 08, 2019, 05:38:33 AM
Played a lot of this today. Made it to the point where you are revisiting the Wookie planet. I got to say this is a better Tomb Raider game then the last actual tomb TR game. Level design is excellent and souls like while still feeling very linear/focused. I swear I've spent most of this game just exploring the levels.

But I don't think the combat feels janky. I don't know what it is, but the window for dodging or parrying doesn't feel great. I've played Bloodborne and Souls 3 and there it felt like timed rolls or dodges during the enemies attack animation were perfect. When done well they worked. Here it feels like a roll of the dice. I don't know, it's like I do it clearly when the enemy is attacking and they just follow me anyway. I don't know, doesn't feel as good as a souls game.

I mean everyone's critique about this being every trendy game idea in 2019 or getting by on the ip, is well correct. Which is'nt 100% a bad thing. Sure you get things like Batman AA which are good games on thier own and go beyond simply being a good license. But I mean everyone loved Spider-man and that was simply a really well executed use of the ip and the modern open world and Batman combat template. Honestly, it was a really well polished and AAA production value version of what Acitivison has been doing. I don't think Fallen Order is as good as Spider-man, but it's on that level. It's a decent game that has a bit more going for it then simply being a throw away Star Wars game. They had some ambition and it really shows with the level design. The world of Star Wars really comes to life with the detailed production they've created and I think that goes a long way.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: toku on December 08, 2019, 10:28:21 AM
I haven't played this yet but I think it's important to understand that a) it started out as a different game/new ip b) they cobbled this together from that game in 1.5-2 years. I think their next game will probably be even better now that they know what works/what ppl enjoyed.

This is a little funny if you're familiar with respawn/infinity-ward history since this basically their whole career. They pitch a game, get told no, put something else together in a shorter time span that ends up exceeding expectations or sets them up for a bigger sequel.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Nintex on December 09, 2019, 05:18:52 PM
Completed it and found all the chests

Even though I ran into some of the jank along the way I must say that overall I really enjoyed this game. Fun exploration, great graphics, wonderful sound and good combat.
Near the end it does become clear that they really had no idea how to tie everything together they had set out to do. So it ends cool but also a bit sudden in the grand scheme of things.
I actually flew around some more to find out that even characters that join late game have lines of dialogue for the earlier planets. Something tells me about 75% of the way in they cut out or rearranged some things.

8.5 Parsecs / Baby Yoda


Would collude with space Russian again
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Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Don Rumata on December 09, 2019, 07:53:13 PM
Is it just me, or did they give her massive teeth (yeah, i spelled that right) in the game?
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Coffee Dog on December 10, 2019, 12:42:02 PM
Jedi update: my EA subscription is expiring and I have no desire to play the last couple hours of this. The gameplay is just too lame. It makes me want to finally just beat bloodborne instead of playing this for another moment.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on December 10, 2019, 03:22:11 PM
At first I thought 'oh this combat is fun!" but really I think I mainly was just taken by the novelty of lightsabre stuff. Now that I'm at the 9th sister I'm like "oh...it actually isn't that great." as the novelty has worn off. Why does a freaking slug take 5x the amount of hits that a storm trooper does? How can a boss that's slowed and turning their back to me block my attack? Why is the push largely so useless unless they're close to a ledge?

Really the game has promise but so many of the decisions make no sense. I'm a badass jedi! Let's spend 70% of the game jumping! Let's make there be like 4-5 enemies per level!  Let's make it so that force powers are mostly used for platforming! Let's make blocking pointless except for boss fights where you'll have to do a lot of it there. Let's introduce swimming! No, we won't put any enemies or underwater platforming or puzzles. Just swim. Isn't that exciting?! It's like swimming! But like without any challenge!
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 10, 2019, 11:14:48 PM
Well one of the problems with the game is that combat is a flatline. There's no real leveling and the abilities don't actually add that much tool or utility. So honestly, after the first real planet you've mostly seen the enemy types you're going to fight and after that it's just here's this planet's version of the "small bug enemy" or the "soldier with the mace". So I don't feel you really engage enemies differently and you're not really killing them faster or better so you're kind of seeing what the game has to offer early.

Combined with what I think is I don't know dodgy frame input(in that I really feel dodge timing is off" and the samey combat that comes the fact that you only have two weapons(Ok you're a Jedi so kind of stuck with that, how about Jedi styles) and you have combat that can't carry the game. I mean it's fun, don't get me wrong, but it misses what From games do. Which is a good sense of progression, not only in simple character leveling, but also from learning the enemy tells and tactics. Which is lacking to me in this game.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Svejk on December 11, 2019, 07:50:21 AM
For all that have completed it, do you all feel that if they made a follow up, that they could pull off a Naughty Dog and improve it the same as Uncharted to Uncharted 2 greatness?
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Don Rumata on December 11, 2019, 08:19:38 AM
For all that have completed it, do you all feel that if they made a follow up, that they could pull off a Naughty Dog and improve it the same as Uncharted to Uncharted 2 greatness?
Sure.
The main issue with the game, is the abysmal level of jank, so a lot of polishing could help a great deal.
Also a less bland, by the numbers Star Wars cast/story would help as well.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: TakingBackSunday on December 11, 2019, 12:05:44 PM
EA will rush to get a sequel for next year and will absolutely not care about whether its janky or not
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Don Rumata on December 11, 2019, 01:50:02 PM
For all that have completed it, do you all feel that if they made a follow up, that they could pull off a Naughty Dog and improve it the same as Uncharted to Uncharted 2 greatness?

Yes, if they have enough time. Fixing the jank in the combat is really necessary, like there's a potentially great game underneath. And I agree that if they want side/backtracking and exploration they need to incentivize that with more than just aesthetics. They should take some more risks with equipment and force abilities.
A couple of times when you go backtrack an area (having to return to the ship, after you reach the bottom of an area) they throw a couple of extra encounters at you.
Either expand on that idea, or just give fast travel options.

As it is now, the hike back to the ship is just boring.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: kingv on December 11, 2019, 01:58:01 PM
I got force push last night, and now that I have plugged in a few hours I agree the combat is kind of janky and sort of crap. I notice the bank the most on those little mole rat things. Like you miss what feels like it should hit. The lock on is ass too.

Imo, the mix of acrobatic Jedi and dark souls just doesn’t work quite right. As a result I turned the difficultY down to story mode and am playing it like uncharted. Only thing I would say is that there could be a difficult between story mode and Jedi knight, because they tune down the damage so much in story mode it’s nearly impossible to die.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Coffee Dog on December 11, 2019, 03:33:02 PM
For all that have completed it, do you all feel that if they made a follow up, that they could pull off a Naughty Dog and improve it the same as Uncharted to Uncharted 2 greatness?

I don't think it could be great because there isn't a hint of originality in the enemies or the combat. Even if this thing was polished to hell, it'd still be worse than the worst dark souls.

I'm not saying there isn't a strong foundation there, but it would be even more impressive than uncharted 1 -> uncharted 2 if this team released a great souls genre game.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Don Rumata on December 11, 2019, 04:25:29 PM
For all that have completed it, do you all feel that if they made a follow up, that they could pull off a Naughty Dog and improve it the same as Uncharted to Uncharted 2 greatness?

I don't think it could be great because there isn't a hint of originality in the enemies or the combat. Even if this thing was polished to hell, it'd still be worse than the worst dark souls.

I'm not saying there isn't a strong foundation there, but it would be even more impressive than uncharted 1 -> uncharted 2 if this team released a great souls genre game.
For one they could use the Star Wars brand to carve out gameplay elements beyond the bare minimum.

Jedi Knight had lightsaber throwing and clashing, Force Unleashed had DMM and Euphoria for great force interactions... even Control had better "force powers" than this.
This has nothing to it: Basic pull/push and a slow down mechanic that is barely ever useful, it's really poor in terms of creativity.

They have the template (because Sekiro created it for them  :lol) they have the universe (because Lucas and decades of fan fiction created it for them  ::)) they just need to add something of their own.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 12, 2019, 12:06:21 AM
Finished it. It was ok. The level design and production values carry the game if at all.

Combat is whatever. I don't know, it's rather boring after the general "oh shit they copied the Souls trend, but with a lightsaber" novelty wears off. They just never really do anything with it and I still feel it's very janky. But it works enough I guess to the point that I still played through it I guess.

I said before that I feel like this was a better Tomb Raider then the last one as the level design and set pieces are pretty cool. I really did spend a lot of time exploring them and the scale of things like the Destroyer crash site in this game is really excellent. The game does a good job of showing the universe off. But I also liked the map, because just like this years Resident Evil 2, color coding the map to show what you can't get to and can now, but haven't gotten to does make me actually want to go there and figure shit out. Maybe a little brain dead and the game never has amazing "fuck this shortcut leads here" moments like Bloodborne or a Souls game. But still makes everything a breezy experince.

I think the story is ok. It has some cool ideas. I do like how the Jedi here seem you know, more like people....compared to the sterile shit in the prequels. I think the game had good ideas and did'nt cheapen out on character motivation and arcs. It's just the characters themselves don't have exciting personalities. It's all acted well and the writing had good intentions and a sound ground. It's just the spark of charisma is really not there. The rest of the plot is whatever. Cool world building/expanding moments for Star Wars. The best I can say is that it was a solid Star Wars spin-off that did'nt feel embarrassing, outright bad, or too samey. It just did'nt go far enough I guess.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on December 12, 2019, 11:37:01 AM
Well one of the problems with the game is that combat is a flatline. There's no real leveling and the abilities don't actually add that much tool or utility. So honestly, after the first real planet you've mostly seen the enemy types you're going to fight and after that it's just here's this planet's version of the "small bug enemy" or the "soldier with the mace". So I don't feel you really engage enemies differently and you're not really killing them faster or better so you're kind of seeing what the game has to offer early.

Combined with what I think is I don't know dodgy frame input(in that I really feel dodge timing is off" and the samey combat that comes the fact that you only have two weapons(Ok you're a Jedi so kind of stuck with that, how about Jedi styles) and you have combat that can't carry the game. I mean it's fun, don't get me wrong, but it misses what From games do. Which is a good sense of progression, not only in simple character leveling, but also from learning the enemy tells and tactics. Which is lacking to me in this game.
I think this is exactly it. There's no progression. It's just the same from the moment you get in to the moment you get out.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: TakingBackSunday on December 17, 2019, 11:42:23 AM
Game is clicking for me now.  Combat is still eh but I like the exploration, puzzle solving, and all the star wars-y whimsy
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 06, 2020, 03:05:41 PM
Ended up scoring this for about $30 on Amazon, it had an extra secret $15 off once you got to the checkout screen over the weekend.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Svejk on January 06, 2020, 03:43:47 PM
*looks at watch.... yeah, it's about time the price starts dropping.  I need that $30 price point too for digital.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Don Rumata on January 08, 2020, 09:13:50 PM
It's already 15$ on Origin access, no? Or is that PC only? It's rental but you'll never want to replay this, trust me.  :doge
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: kingv on January 20, 2020, 12:03:01 PM
Just finished this:
The good:
- the story is better than any of the new Star Wars movies and is actually half decent. Characters have motivation and growth and they actually do things that make logical sense
- fighting storm troopers with force powers is relatively fun
- some of the temple puzzles are sort of Zelda-esque
- the lighting is really nice
The bad:
- same animals on every planet doesn’t really make sense
- the core gameplay is kind of shitty, especially when you are fighting non humanoid enemies. It’s like a jankier sekiro
- the dark souls part of it just doesn’t really work. It wants to be both mass market 3rd party comfort food and hardcore. The combination just doesn’t really work. It’s like “what if uncharted was just really hard?” As a result I just played the whole thing on casual to see the story.
- terrible faces, every character looks derpy and weird.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: demi on January 20, 2020, 12:39:36 PM
I should be receiving this from gamefly this week, excited to jump right in
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: demi on January 25, 2020, 07:19:18 PM
Already experienced a bug where an enemy doesn't spawn

This game is dogshit
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: MMaRsu on January 25, 2020, 07:42:08 PM
Already experienced a bug where an enemy doesn't spawn

This game is dogshit


duh

its ea
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 28, 2020, 04:45:17 PM
I'm slowly playing this, maybe like a couple hours a week. Just got to Kashyyk. It's fun but not mind-blowing or anything.
Title: Re: star wars jedi: fallen order
Post by: demi on January 28, 2020, 05:26:49 PM
I finished it over the weekend and thought it was as plain jane as can be. Who the fuck does metroidvania / exploration and have each chest give stupid fucking skins for your lightsaber. What a waste of fucking time