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Actually, if anyone wants to feel bad for real, read this.

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Man is arrested for murder and found guilty, sentenced to death.  Exhausts his appeals, is going to be executed a day before his son's HS graduation.  A researcher hired by a law firm working pro bono finds a bunch of stuff that prosecutors never shared with defense attorneys, including blood evidence on the scene that clears his name.  He sues the prosecutors, case goes to the Supreme Court, where they rule 5-4 (guess how that split went!) to throw out the case.

Meaning you can hide evidence in order to get someone killed for a crime they didn't commit, and not be found guilty in a criminal court or even liable in a civil court.  :usacry
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I tweeted that one like a weeknago, very depressing


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Did you guys see Obama's speech on the budget?

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read some of the details. Good to see someone finally called out the Ryan budget for what it is: a draconian disaster that only succeeds in giving more money to the rich.

I got nerd chills when Obama proposed perscription drug price negotiations through Medicare. Blah, too bad it won't happen. But then again...ok we know his tax increase proposals won't happen right. But if Obama spends a shit ton of time and energy demanding the price negotiations as a part of any budget he signs I'd be so happy. Republicans will get most of what they want, just give me that. And defense cuts
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This part of Obama's speech was great:

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"[T]here has always been another thread running through our history -- a belief that we are all connected; and that there are some things we can only do together, as a nation. We believe, in the words of the first Republican president, Abraham Lincoln, that through government, we should do together what we cannot do as well for ourselves. And so we've built a strong military to keep us secure, and public schools and universities to educate our citizens. We've laid down railroads and highways to facilitate travel and commerce. We've supported the work of scientists and researchers whose discoveries have saved lives, unleashed repeated technological revolutions, and led to countless new jobs and entire new industries. Each of us has benefitted from these investments, and we are a more prosperous country as a result.

"Part of this American belief that we are all connected also expresses itself in a conviction that each one of us deserves some basic measure of security and dignity. We recognize that no matter how responsibly we live our lives, hard times or bad luck, a crippling illness or a layoff, may strike any one of us. 'There but for the grace of God go I,' we say to ourselves, and so we contribute to programs like Medicare and Social Security, which guarantee us health care and a measure of basic income after a lifetime of hard work; unemployment insurance, which protects us against unexpected job loss; and Medicaid, which provides care for millions of seniors in nursing homes, poor children, and those with disabilities. We are a better country because of these commitments. I'll go further -- we would not be a great country without those commitments. [...]

"The America I know is generous and compassionate; a land of opportunity and optimism. We take responsibility for ourselves and each other; for the country we want and the future we share. We are the nation that built a railroad across a continent and brought light to communities shrouded in darkness. We sent a generation to college on the GI bill and saved millions of seniors from poverty with Social Security and Medicare. We have led the world in scientific research and technological breakthroughs that have transformed millions of lives. This is who we are."

It's about time Obama finally embraced his Nazi heritage. :bow :bow

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I only caught the part where he was humiliating the right wing for saying that people want to spend all kinds of money on programs but without raising taxes while thinking that cutting piddly shit like foreign aid will make a meaningful impact on the deficit.
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Jesus, it just dawned on me again how bad Obama is going to destroy whichever dumb fuck the Republicans nominate in 2012.
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Where was this rhetoric when we were extending the bush tax cuts 3 months ago

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last three years...
republican: he's a communist, he's a socialist, he wants people on welfare, etc wants to kill grandma
obama: they have some good ideas and so do we, perhaps we can work together on X and Y, even if we disagree about Z

today...
obama: their plan is simply wrong because of X,Y,Z. it would dismantle medicare and leave the elderly to fend for themselves. but we agree on some other things, so lets work together on them
republican: holy shit you need to apologize for such hurtful, partisan language
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/04/republicans-reject-obama-speech-on-personal-grounds.php?ref=fpa

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and that's why I support the dems.  They may be feckless, ineffectual, and slightly corrupt, but at least they ain't outright evil/completely disingenuous in damn near everything they do.

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I honestly think that most Republicans are more stupid than evil.
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last three years...
republican: he's a communist, he's a socialist, he wants people on welfare, etc wants to kill grandma
obama: they have some good ideas and so do we, perhaps we can work together on X and Y, even if we disagree about Z

today...
obama: their plan is simply wrong because of X,Y,Z. it would dismantle medicare and leave the elderly to fend for themselves. but we agree on some other things, so lets work together on them
republican: holy shit you need to apologize for such hurtful, partisan language
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/04/republicans-reject-obama-speech-on-personal-grounds.php?ref=fpa



 :lol :lol :lol It's like Old Faithful.
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[youtube=560,345][/youtube]
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That is hilarioud.

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That is hilarioud.

hi·lar·i·oud /həˈle(ə)rēäd/ Adjective

1. Being both amusing and strange.
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Who cares if Joe Scarborough is butt hurt that Obama had Paul Ryan sit in the front row of his speech and soundly denounce his budget? I think it's important to scold these knuckle draggers to their face  .
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Did they expect Obama to say "this voucher program isn't all bad, let me explain" :rofl

Obama is like a little girl who got into a "show me yer privates" game with some dumb boys, all of whom whipped their junk out immediately. And instead of following suit, Obama runs home to tell everyone's parents. Dunno if it's brilliant strategy or just benefiting from having fools for opponents. They honestly expected Obama to one-up them with Medicare cuts, and are hurt he doesn't feel the same way about Grandma as they do
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These guys...


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So the Reps voted to gut medicare. The Dems couldn't have asked for a better early Christmas present. Hopefully they don't fuck it up.

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I bet they won't.

Also, lol at the voting snafu today

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I'm sorry if my email offended anyone. I simply found it amusing regarding the character of Obama and all the questions surrounding his origin of birth. In no way did I even consider the fact he's half black when I sent out the email. In fact, the thought never entered my mind until one or two other people tried to make this about race. We all know a double standard applies regarding this president. I received plenty of emails about George Bush that I didn't particularly like yet there was no 'cry' in the media about them. One only has to go to Youtube or Google Images to see a plethora or lampooning videos and pictures of Obama, Bush and other politicians. That being said, I will NOT resign my central committee position over this matter that the average person knows and agrees is much to do about nothing. Again, for those select few who might be truly offended by viewing a copy of an email I sent to a select list of friends and acquaintances, unlike the liberal left when they do the same, I offer my sincere apologies to you--the email was not meant for you. For any of my friends or acquaintances who were the recipients of my email and were truly offended, please call me so I may offer a sincere verbal apology to you
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/04/orange_co_goper_my_obama-as-chimp_pic_was_just_a_birther_joke_meant_for_my_friends.php?ref=fpb

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*bushmonkey.jpg* libtards did it first. /beardo
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Beardo: I like Mr Rothstein but he's a money grubbing, greedy bastard. All he cares about is dollar signs
Mandark: That's anti-semetic and quite offensive
Beardo: Actually I did not take his Jewish heritage into account until you brought it up, why do you make everything about race *drops drink on floor*, now clean this up
*Mandark mops floor*

Beardo being the college professor and Mandark being the genius janitor of course
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Wait, what makes you think the e-mail had anything to do with race? Maybe it was to show that tea baggers believe in evolution too.

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Jesus.  That "apology" reads like she just invented passive-aggressiveness and was in a hurry to show it off.

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I really can't wait until Beardo gets here. Maybe we should edit posts so he doesn't suspect we know what he's gonna do
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C'mon, Billy.  She got close enough to the quote, for all intensive purposes.

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 :lol
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C'mon, Billy.  She got close enough to the quote, for all intensive purposes.

Well played, sir.
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http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-04-18/standard-poor-s-puts-negative-outlook-on-u-s-rating.html

This clashes directly with the Obama cult set's "It's ok to have lots of debt and it is totally ok to pile up more!" that I've seen bandied about on PoliGAF and other places.
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Can't the US just buy a AAA rating from Moody's like the big funds?
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http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-04-18/standard-poor-s-puts-negative-outlook-on-u-s-rating.html

This clashes directly with the Obama cult set's "It's ok to have lots of debt and it is totally ok to pile up more!" that I've seen bandied about on PoliGAF and other places.

The rating has more to do with the looming debt limit vote than concern over deficits; the last time the US received a negative outlook was in 1996 when there was also concern over extremists not raising the debt limit.

I don't see many people making the comments you're talking about in that thread. And from an economic perspective they wouldn't be far off the mark anyway. During a recession a government should spent more money to stimulate the economy - not cut spending and taxes.
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http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-04-18/standard-poor-s-puts-negative-outlook-on-u-s-rating.html

This clashes directly with the Obama cult set's "It's ok to have lots of debt and it is totally ok to pile up more!" that I've seen bandied about on PoliGAF and other places.

Having a healthy economy leading to better revenues >>>> Cut spending to prosperity!!!

Also debt is more than fine, as long as you have a healthy economy to absorb it.

Can't the US just buy a AAA rating from Moody's like the big funds? (Image removed from quote.)

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http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-04-18/standard-poor-s-puts-negative-outlook-on-u-s-rating.html

This clashes directly with the Obama cult set's "It's ok to have lots of debt and it is totally ok to pile up more!" that I've seen bandied about on PoliGAF and other places.

Government Bond Prices Rise Despite S&P Warning

Putting aside that you're an awesome freethinker while everyone else are sheeple, the debt problem ain't that bad.

Debt is currently rising relative to GDP because of 1) structural changes from the last Bush administration (tax cuts, Medicare Part D, and tax cuts again) and because of the weak economy.  The structural changes to get back to equilibrium aren't that bad (going back to Clinton-era tax rates gets you almost there, IIRC).

Right now the US is selling bonds at historically low interest rates.  If those rates go up, that could cause things to spiral, but interest rates going up would be a sign that the economy has recovered, and the debt would be much less of a worry anyway.

Really, I'm less worried about the debt than I am about people in the financial sector trying to use bond ratings as a cudgel to steer governments towards their own preferred policies (which isn't that scary either, and which doesn't seem to be the case here).

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It also needs to be reiterated that holding debt makes inflation awesomer, while you'll never hear it from the debt holders. They only stand to lose from inflation.
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Beck going out with a bang
http://thinkprogress.org/2011/04/18/beck-kill-power-shift/

What's up with the Van Jones hate on the right?
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What's up with the Van Jones hate on the right?

Son, take a seat and let me tell you the story of a lady named Lani Guinier...

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...so Clinton nominated her because she was black? That wasn't nice, poppa ToxicAdam
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In other news, Donald Trump supported universal health care:

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"We must have universal healthcare," wrote Trump. "I'm a conservative on most issues but a liberal on this one. We should not hear so many stories of families ruined by healthcare expenses."

The goal of health care reform, wrote Trump, should be a system that looks a lot like Canada. "Doctors might be paid less than they are now, as is the case in Canada, but they would be able to treat more patients because of the reduction in their paperwork," he writes.


http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-supports-national-health-care-2011-4

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Yeah, but that was back before the entire Republican party apparently decided to go Teatard.
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i wish someone else would announce theyre running so itd be easier for me to ignore that fuckface
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Don't worry, his tv show ends soon so he'll stop pretending that he's running.
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Yeah, but that was back before the entire Republican party apparently decided to go Teatard.

Apparently half of Iowa Republicans believe that Osama bin Barack al-Jihad wasn't born in the US:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/53417.html

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Don't worry, his tv show ends soon so he'll stop pretending that he's running.

I agree; I wouldn't be surprised if this attempt to run is a way for him to shore up ratings.  I mean, it is why Bristol Palin gets asked to do anything media related.
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He's not running
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Donald Trump is as much of a businessman as he is a media personality.  He is just doing this for his own amusement and possibly to get ratings boosts.  This is the 5th time he's announced that he was going to run for office.  I think people are taking him somewhat seriously and giving him attention because of the total lack of qualified GOP candidates that are interested in running for office.  To be honest, I don't even know why the GOP would even bother getting someone out there.  I wonder if this is how the Democrats felt in 1984.
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Trump likes the attention.  He won't run.


Anyway, for your perusal, Roy Edroso completely eviscerates the Atlas Shrugged movie.  I'm c/ping the whole thing cause it's too good.

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UNMITIGATED GALT. Whatever understandable prejudice you might have against Ayn Rand, you have to admit that the giant concrete block of her novel on which Atlas Shrugged: Part I is based could make a movie of some sort.

Consider all that happens in it: Dagny Taggart, who wants her family's railroad to succeed on its own merits, is opposed by her weakling brother James, who prefers that it succeed via corrupt influences. Conglomerate head Henry Rearden wants success on his own terms, too, but is opposed by, well, the whole wide world, which instinctually recoils at his greatness. These two superior beings inevitably meet, are inevitably attracted to each other, and inevitably couple, after which they together work to find the solution to their mutual dilemma.

OK, it's ridiculous, but no more so than Rand's The Fountainhead, out of which King Vidor, Gary Cooper and Patricia Neal made a silly and operatic but perfectly entertaining film.

That was what I hoped for as I watched the thing last night, because as much fun as it is to slag rotten movies, it is much better to be surprised by a good one, especially when you've reached the stage in life where two hours in front of a stinker sets you dreaming of the warm couch and leftover sesame chicken that you left back home. But it is my great regret to inform you that Atlas Shrugged: Part I is neither good nor good-bad, but bad-bad-bad-bad. I dreamed, not of sesame chicken, but of my own swift and merciful death, and that of the director, not necessarily in that order. It is not a pleasurable surprise, not a hoot, nor an outrage; it is Rand's granite crushed, reconstituted, and spread across the screen with steamrollers.

Taggart and Rearden are supposed to be important and accomplished producers of wealth, but we never see them doing anything productive. Rearden smiles as he watches steel poured in his foundry, and Taggart walks around purposefully with folders, but neither is shown engaged in actual work. In fact the filmmakers seem to go out of their way to avoid showing it: At one point Taggart appears outdoors at a worksite, and Rearden compliments her on her easy manner with the workers, but we never see Taggart actually interacting with them.

It's as if the filmmakers couldn't imagine such a thing (nor can I: "Hello, factotum, your brute strength is useful to my enterprise, keep up the good work!"). In fact, it's as if they thought that the sight of either character doing anything like what real executives do would spoil the effect. Because executives make deals, and Taggart and Rearden can't deal with anyone but each other; the only thing like negotiation they perform is their own meet-cute, in which haggling over price becomes a romantic pas des deux. Everyone else they encounter, besides subordinates, is unworthy of their efforts, and thus can only be browbeaten or belittled.

Consistent though this may be with Objectivist mythology -- noble producers standing among, but not of, ignoble looters -- it destroys any opportunity for actual drama. Atlas Shrugged has several villains, yet none of them is allowed to effectively challenge Ragny Dearden. The union boss and the government factotum are wusses who are easily glowered down; the director of the State Science Institute -- "the last science center on earth," we are informed, all the others having presumably been turned into global warming propaganda centers -- only appears to tell us how pathetic he is; and the D.C. players never even get to meet Tagny Raggart. It's like a version of The Dark Knight in which the Joker says "I don't understand you, Batman," and Batman says, "I don't think you'll ever understand, Joker," and the Joker slouches off to get drunk at the Ebbitt Grill while Batman smiles at his glistening Batmobile.

The short shrift given the D.C. mob especially annoyed me, because their ringleader Mouch is played by the wonderful actor Michael Lerner, whom I thought might at least do something interesting if given a big confrontation scene with one of the principals, instead of being left to sit around being superbad with the other bad guys. In fact, Lerner is not even allowed to be interesting in his own milieu; when Taggart's supertrain succeeds, we see Mouch hearing the news on the phone; I hoped his pause before reacting presaged an explosion of some kind. Then he spoke as if nothing much had happened, and it became painfully obvious that Lerner had just been waiting for a cue, and that the phone voice had ended a beat too soon -- which is the opposite of what anyone should be noticing in a scene like that.

This setup does no favors to the actors playing Dagden and Rearly, either. Taylor Schilling and Grant Bowler show some chemistry in their negotiation duet, but after that they aren't allowed do much with one another until their ghastly sex scene. They show interest and admiration, but actual romance was presumably deemed too weakly looter-human for them. (In early scenes, Bowler actually starts to give Schilling a puppy-dog look, before dialing it back to something more suggestive of colonic irritation.) We've all seen movies in which lovers are obliged to restrain their feelings for one another (Cousin Cousine and Remains of the Day come to mind), but this is the only one I can think of in which, once the lovers finally have their night of passion, they emerge pledged to mutual pursuit of a perpetual motion machine.

(Rearden's married, by the way. This is quickly dismissed as an impediment, because he and his wife hate each other. There's so much wrong with the movie that I can't even care about the morality of this, but I do wonder whether South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford was thinking about Atlas Shrugged when he went hiking with his true love on the South American-Appalachian Trail.)

The movie is so starved of humanity that the big turning-point scenes are about as thrilling as a Congressional budget negotiation. When the supertrain goes on its controversial trip over the bridge, we know that the bad guys want it to fail, and that the good guys want it to succeed. Drama, right? But not only are the good guys incapable of failure -- they're incapable of doubt, too. Not even the guy who's driving the train seems worried. So the train accelerates (the fastest any train has ever gone in America!), it approaches the bridge, we cross-cut, see the wheels going around, and -- guess what? It succeeds, just like we always knew it would. If the soundtrack swells it's only so we can't hear D.W. Griffith spinning in his grave.

There is only one moment of true feeling and drama in the whole movie. Reardon has made a bracelet out of his precious supermetal for his hated wife, who doesn't understand it/him; at a party, said wife expresses her contempt for the bracelet to Taggart; Taggart impulsively offers to trade it for her expensive necklace. Suddenly, for a couple of seconds, the actors come alive -- because they at last have an ambiguity to play: A simple transaction that has deep emotional meaning underneath. The movie comes alive, too, because we have been wrenched from our preordained path onto something vivid, theatrical, and mysterious. Then Rearden interrupts, and Atlas Shrugged gets back on the supertrain to nowhere.

Other observations:

- The country at the time of the film (2016) is in some kind of chaos which is not well explained -- the Middle East is in crisis, gas is absurdly expensive, and plane travel is moribund, which somewhat justifies the otherwise perplexing and anachronistic interest in railroads. Poverty is widespread, signified by beggars and trash fires. No attempt is made to tie all this together, but it is also suggested that the nation has been given over to sociamalism -- the opening montage shows protesters marching with signs touting those twin menaces, Martin Luther King and communism, and the D.C. guys talk about sharing the wealth in ways that have never been heard in Washington, nor anywhere in the United States except perhaps Louisiana in the time of Huey Long. I suppose this is the film's Tea Party tell, but I notice that it seems not to affect the actions of the principals in any direct way. This is made comically clear when Taggart, dressed in fancy duds, bolts from her brother's limo and walks home through an urban hobo jungle. I know the filmmakers were in a rush, but I marvel that they resisted the temptation to have Taggart explain her natural superiority to a bum, after which he would cower before the force of her logic instead of raping her and taking her purse.

- A shadowy figure appears at intervals to give the good Galt news to select entrepreneurs. (Sample pitch: "I'm simply offering you a society that rewards individual achievement.") His targets then "go Galt," vanishing to be met up with at the Gulch later in the series. The last to slip the surly bonds of socialism in this film is the fat white guy who gets screwed by Taggart's brother and later becomes Dagny's and Rearden's best pal. He leaves his oil fields behind with a sign saying "I am leaving it as I found it" -- though when he acquired the property, it was probably not, as he leaves it here, in flames (to be put out by the union-looter fire department), nor unsuitable for any future use. But I expect the TP people will nod with understanding at his self-evident producer-wisdom.

- It strikes me that the heroes of this series are enabled in their Galt-going journey by an as-yet unseen super-metal and a perpetual motion machine discovered behind a hidden door. The secret ingredient in Rand's Objectivist tale is magic beans.
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While the movie investors and producers are thinking that they are going to do great justice to the book and libertarianism, I can't help but think it will turn many more people off to their cause. Even make them look worse off than prior to the movie.
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He's not running
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Serious answer to the Van Jones question.I didn't follow it closely, so I'm not sure if he's a bete noir for conservatives generally or just a fetish for Beck, or even most of the specifics of Beck's beef.

But the gist I get is that the information people got/chose to believe about Jones painted him as a 9/11 Truther who wanted to use government programs to redistribute wealth to groups that he felt had been wronged in the US.  Basically, someone who "hates America", or sees traditional settled American society as a bad or oppressive force which needs to be overthrown.

He became a popular target, like Ayers, like Wright, like Ward Churchill, like the caricature of Guinier that was presented to the public, because it made conservatives say "A ha! I knew it!"  It confirmed their suspicion that liberals had an ulterior motive behind all the happy-talk, and apparently the real (radical, hateful) agenda was out in the open.  Ask TA about what environmentalists really want sometime.

It can be pretty hard to accept that someone harbors, sincerely and without malice, beliefs that oppose or threaten your worldview.  It's much easier to ignore what they're saying and speculate on their true, hidden beliefs instead.

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Of course I could get a massive tu quoque thrown back in my face, esp with the Tea Party/racism thing.

Politicians, activists, and even powerless blowhards like myself very often aren't totally honest about their motives.  That ranges from a bit of self-delusion to deliberate vagueness to sometimes outright lying.

I know that if someone is hiding what they really think it shouldn't matter.  If they're wrong, they won't be able to construct a good rationalization to defend their position, and you can rebut it yadda yadda.  But that doesn't actually work.  You wind up tracking down links on Google for half an hour and re-explaining fiat currency to someone who doesn't want to hear that shit.

So there really should be a happy medium between playing the naive internet idealist and being the person who keeps berating others to admit that they're really a bunch of spiteful monsters now that you've found a quote from some guy at a protest march who speaks as the voice of everyone who was ever registered with the same party affiliation as them.

Maybe I swing back and forth on where that medium is, but whateva.  I contain multitudes.

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And I'm totally scratching my itch to talk politics here cause a libertarian FB friend of Prole, who seems like a nice enough young man and reasonable as far as it goes, made some very Libertarian 101 comments, and as a well-adjusted and socially aware adult I'm not going to pull a Boogie and start a torturous back-and-forth in the middle of someone else's status update.

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True, and yet it seems like there are a host of liberal characters who fit similar descriptions without maintaining the levels of ire Jones receives. Sure there aren't many who have ties to 911 trutherism, however slight (iirc he didn't know the paper he signed had anything to do with the conspiracy.

On a side note, just a few years ago there were plenty of republicans who were on the same page in many areas as Jones with respect to climate change, Oh how time flies
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Shoulda just listened to Rygar
« Reply #12352 on: April 20, 2011, 02:59:38 AM »
I was going to ask if he really does get more hate, but I just searched for "Van Jones" and got 7k+ hits on nationalreview.com, compared with about 400 for "Ward Churchill".

So yeah, it's cause he's black.

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Ha, I guess so.
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edit: you'd think conservatives would love that "black kids get help but white kids get ignored" argument

On facebook, I've muddied up someone's wall twice: once over birther shit, the other over health care nonsense. Not a good idea.
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Mandark

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For serious, even if you're keeping it a lot more polite and respectful than you would on a message board, FB just ain't the place to play debate club.

Beardo

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110419/ap_on_re_us/us_capes_for_the_unemployed
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ORLANDO, Fla. – Florida officials are investigating an unemployment agency that spent public money to give 6,000 superhero capes to the jobless.
Workforce Central Florida spent more than $14,000 on the red capes as part of its "Cape-A-Bility Challenge" public relations campaign. The campaign featured a cartoon character, "Dr. Evil Unemployment," who needs to be vanquished.
Florida's unemployment agency director asked Monday for an investigation of the regional operation's spending after the Orlando Sentinel published a story about the program. State director Cynthia Lorenzo said the spending appeared to be "insensitive and wasteful."
Workforce Central Florida Director Gary J. Earl defends the program, saying it is part of a greater effort to connect with the community. The agency says it served 210,000 people during its last fiscal year, placing nearly 59,000 in jobs.


I'm actually really happy that the state offers this kind of safety net. I mean, what would you do if you found yourself unemployed and without a red hero cape?
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Brehvolution

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Blame the cape makers lobbyist.
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Mandark

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I think what I said about bete noirs also applies to things like this.  "I knew all social welfare spending was wasteful!  This $14k in Florida just proves it!"

HyperZoneWasAwesome

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OH. MY. GOD.

a state agency spent a negligable amount of money on a dopey sounding but well meaning Promotion of Their Sole Duty.
If only that 14K was spent on radio ads, or bus stop posters.  Or something else there wouldn't be any story at all.

Beardo

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Heaven forbid that money is actually used to create jobs. I guess red capes is the next best thing. You act like this is the only waste of tax payer money.

 As I have always said, your mental gymnastics to apologize for such waste of money is actually more damning than the actual waste of said money.