"A black sheriff?!": The Official Topic of Obama and New Era American Politics

[Mandark]

Well, then it's excusable that you are stupendously ignorant of America's civil rights history.

Less excusable that you act like you know what you're talking about.  Try to recognize your blind spots, dude.

[Oblivion]

anyone who googles "what percentage of people are racists" doesn't understand racism

I have my own weird viewpoint on racism.  I belive everyone is racist in some way.

My ex-roommate would always like to say that everyone's prejudiced but not necessarily racist. I largely agree with that, and my roommate would proudly remind us of that whenever he made a say...racially insensitive joke/comment. Course, the more he spoke the more it was made clear that he was in fact just really fucking racist.

[Damian79]

Well, then it's excusable that you are stupendously ignorant of America's civil rights history.

Less excusable that you act like you know what you're talking about.  Try to recognize your blind spots, dude.

Its a bad habit i got.  It is my lazy way of learning.  I talk like i know what i am talking about to get responses to correct me and teach me.  I dunno, to actually do research on something just seems hard for me so whenever i want to learn somethign i do this.

EDIT:  I do it without thinking.

[Mandark]

No problem.

You owe me $50 now, though.  Tutoring ain't free.

[Damian79]

  Dammit i know that one of these days i am going to get into trouble for this.  Eh, what am i saying i always get intot trouble for this.  I apologize though for your trouble.  I should keep myself in check more.  It has been a long while since i did this.

[Positive Touch]

EDIT:  I do it without thinking.

YOU DONT SAY

[Boogie]

Well, then it's excusable that you are stupendously ignorant of America's civil rights history.

Less excusable that you act like you know what you're talking about.  Try to recognize your blind spots, dude.

Its a bad habit i got.  It is my lazy way of learning.  I talk like i know what i am talking about to get responses to correct me and teach me.  I dunno, to actually do research on something just seems hard for me so whenever i want to learn somethign i do this.

EDIT:  I do it without thinking.

Wow, it's like you're the physical embodiment of the thing I hate most about the Internet.

At least you're self-aware enough to acknowledge it.

[AdmiralViscen]

I'm glad I read his remarks on this page before responding to his remarks on the last page

[Great Rumbler]

“Gov. Romney has claimed to have created a 100,00 jobs at Bain, and people are wanting to know, is there proof of that claim and was it U.S. jobs created for United States citizens? … And that’s fair,” Palin told Sean Hannity of Fox News when asked about Rick Perry’s “vulture” caplitalism charge against Romney. “That’s not negative campaigning — that’s fair to get a candidate to be held accountable to what’s being claimed.”

Palin added, “Nobody should be surprised that things about Bain Capital and maybe tax returns not being released yet and maybe some record not being as transparently provided to the public as voters deserve to see right now — don’t be surprised that that’s’ all coming out today.”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0112/71364.html

[Phoenix Dark]

I do wonder what a Palin v Romney v the other Not-Romneys race would have looked like

[Barry Egan]

I do wonder what a Palin v Romney v the other Not-Romneys race would have looked like

my first thought is that regardless of what it would have looked like, there would already be a porno based on the campaign in production.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I'm getting burned out on politics already this year.  It's too bad they just don't have one Ultra Tuesday or something where everyone votes at the same day for the primaries.  I guess I wonder why I'm supposed to give a fuck about the campaign.  I did my part by voting for Santorum but if I already know who I'm voting for come November, then why should I care what stupidly offensive thing a Republican said so he/she can appeal to the gun nut crowd?  Most of it is pure bullshit designed to gain a point or two in the polls so it carries little or no water if they were ever put in office.

[Positive Touch]

politics are a lot more interesting when you ignore the horserace b.s., especially when it's a no-contest race like this year's

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

The good news is that I don't have cable and most of my friends just watch HBO or ESPN.  That way I can avoid the excruciatingly awful horseshit known as 24 hour news channels.  I remember how bad 2008 was and maybe that is why I'm losing interest fast.

[tiesto]

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/candidate-match-game

I got Gingrich as my top candidate 

(Probably because I support heavy defense spending and placed utmost importance in it...)

[Boogie]

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/candidate-match-game

I got Gingrich as my top candidate 

(Probably because I support heavy defense spending and placed utmost importance in it...)

1) Obama  84.5%
2) Hunstman 42.4%
3) Mittens 33.5%

[Human Snorenado]

95% Obama.  That test is stupid though, like for example some of the questions I found NO response I agreed with but have a feeling that if I put in "none of the above" it would penalize me or something.

[Phoenix Dark]

1. Barrack Obama 68.1
2. Ron Paul 40.1
3. Newt Gingrich 36.1

due to me not supporting cap n trade, and wanting big cuts in defense spending. Pretty shitty poll, as the Medicare answers are muddied

If I had a choice I'd "no option" most of them

[Great Rumbler]

1. Barrack Obama 94.1%
2. Jon Huntsman 33.5%
3. Michelle Bachman 23.7%

[Boogie]

due to me not supporting cap n trade,

No cap 'n trade?  What do you support when it comes to climate change, then, PD?

[Phoenix Dark]

due to me not supporting cap n trade,

No cap 'n trade?  What do you support when it comes to climate change, then, PD?

I support EPA regulations and a carbon tax

[Human Snorenado]

Like most things, I support making it legal to hunt, kill, skin and eat serial polluters for a 3 week span each year.  Think of all the problems in our society this would solve- the media, the bcs, the Kardashians, etc.

[Oblivion]

1. Obama - 73.4%
2. Ron Paul - 46.8%
3. Michelle Bachmann (WTF?) - 33.5%

[TakingBackSunday]

Obama: 74 %
Paul: 32 %
Perry (wut): 30%

[benjipwns]

Shocking:
1. Ron Paul: 89% (8/11 issues)
2. Rick Perry: 48% (3/11 issues)
3. Michelle Bachmann: 39% (2/11 issues)

Didn't really care for the choices on some like gay marriage and immigration. Tried to pick the closest but wound up picking "none of above" on three of them.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Yeah some of the choices sucked.  I wish there was a "repeal Obamacare with a strong public option" but alas there was none so I went with none of the above.

[benjipwns]

Also, Vermin Supreme was missing. He finished fourth in New Hampshire!

[Human Snorenado]

Yeah some of the choices sucked.  I wish there was a "repeal Obamacare with a strong public option" but alas there was none so I went with none of the above.

Yeah, it's like there's no option for anyone who wants policies beyond center-right crap, so I guess it's kinda like real life.

[benjipwns]

Well, they can't go any more "left" than Obama's or Ron Paul's positions on any of the issues as there aren't any other candidates in the quiz. They'd have to put in third parties and those simply don't exist in most of the media.

[Mr. Gundam]

So they're trying to legalize gay marriage here in Washington...

GAY MARRIAGE IN WA SENATE
 
Twenty-five votes needed to pass
 
Yes: 23
No: 20

Undecided: 6
Sen. Joe Fain (R-47), Sen. Brian Hatfield (D-19),
Sen. Mary Margaret Haugen (D-10), Sen. Andy Hill (R-45),
Sen. Jim Kastama (D-25), Sen. Paull Shin (D-21)

MY FUCKING UNCLE IS ONE OF THE UNDECIDED VOTES. WHAT THE FUCK. His Uncle died from AIDS in the early 80s. We're a very pro-gay rights family. WHAT THE FUCK, DUDE.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Can the undecided change their votes either way?

Edit: There are some rumblings from the wingnuts (the people who probably voted for Santorum in the primaries) to repeal gay marriage in my state but the Iowa Supreme Court's ruling pretty much makes it impossible.

[benjipwns]

Hey, if we save and strengthen marriage then kids won't choose to be gay out of despair thus saving them from AIDS forever.

[Mandark]

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/candidate-match-game

"Energy" has five choices, and every single one of them starts with "increase domestic oil and gas production."

Fuck that noise.  I'm going to find one of those "Which literary heroine are you?" personality quizzes and rig the answers so I get Lizzy Bennet or Flora Poste.

[Great Rumbler]

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/candidate-match-game

"Energy" has five choices, and every single one of them starts with "increase domestic oil and gas production."

Fuck that noise.  I'm going to find one of those "Which literary heroine are you?" personality quizzes and rig the answers so I get Lizzy Bennet or Flora Poste.

Well, it's geared towards determining which of the candidates you most closely align with and reflects the fact that in the real election we're all just basically having to pick the least worst option from among what we're given.

[Van Cruncheon]

So they're trying to legalize gay marriage here in Washington...

GAY MARRIAGE IN WA SENATE
 
Twenty-five votes needed to pass
 
Yes: 23
No: 20

Undecided: 6
Sen. Joe Fain (R-47), Sen. Brian Hatfield (D-19),
Sen. Mary Margaret Haugen (D-10), Sen. Andy Hill (R-45),
Sen. Jim Kastama (D-25), Sen. Paull Shin (D-21)

MY FUCKING UNCLE IS ONE OF THE UNDECIDED VOTES. WHAT THE FUCK. His Uncle died from AIDS in the early 80s. We're a very pro-gay rights family. WHAT THE FUCK, DUDE.

it's NEVER about what they believe; it's about getting re-elected, or more specifically: what their donors want from them.

[Phoenix Dark]

Romney was right, only rich people should serve in government because they won't have to worry about donors and outside pressure!

[benjipwns]

[Mupepe]

Yeah that poll was fucking terrible.  I would have chosen "None of the above" on all of them but because I chose what was closest to my opinion I ended up with John Huntsman at 51% and Michelle Bachmann at 23%.  Yeesh.

[Cheebo]

Damn, it's flash. iOS's Achilles heal. I wanted to know who USA today wants me to vote for too :'(

Doesn't USA Today have a free iPad app?

[Mr. Gundam]

So they're trying to legalize gay marriage here in Washington...

GAY MARRIAGE IN WA SENATE
 
Twenty-five votes needed to pass
 
Yes: 23
No: 20

Undecided: 6
Sen. Joe Fain (R-47), Sen. Brian Hatfield (D-19),
Sen. Mary Margaret Haugen (D-10), Sen. Andy Hill (R-45),
Sen. Jim Kastama (D-25), Sen. Paull Shin (D-21)

MY FUCKING UNCLE IS ONE OF THE UNDECIDED VOTES. WHAT THE FUCK. His Uncle died from AIDS in the early 80s. We're a very pro-gay rights family. WHAT THE FUCK, DUDE.

it's NEVER about what they believe; it's about getting re-elected, or more specifically: what their donors want from them.

Yeah, but he's not running for re-election. I spoke to my grandma about this last night and tried to not go off on her about it. She defended him to the bitter end and said there's a reason why he's undecided and that we should happy with the end result. Discrimination of people is not some fucking political game. SMH.

[Phoenix Dark]

You should tell your uncle that a wise man once told you soon everyone must choose whether to do what is right, or what is easy

[Mr. Gundam]

That's gonna be an awkward thanksgiving.

Can you pass the gravy?

CAN YOU PASS GAY MARRIAGE?!

My wife and I are already not huge fans of his politically. This just makes us shake our heads even more.

[benjipwns]

[benjipwns]

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/13/gingrich-asks-super-pac-to-address-errors-in-ad-against-romney/

Newt Gingrich called on the “super PAC” supporting him to edit or take down a 28-minute pseudodocumentary attacking Mitt Romney’s record at the investment firm Bain Capital after news media fact checkers found a number of inaccuracies.

“I’m calling on them either to edit out every single mistake, or withdraw the entire film,” Mr. Gingrich said. “They cannot run the film with those errors in it.”

[Joe Molotov]

Lmfao, I read abovetopsecret for shits and gigs and it appears the birthers are questioning Romney's eligibility now! Does explain why Romney defended Obama on that whole deal.

Here's the link if you feel like taking a dive into ridiculousness

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread797032/pg1

Let me be clear: I think the whole deal is fucking stupid

Damn Mexicans stealing our jobs. I was going to run for President, but Mitt Romney will do it cheaper I guess!

[benjipwns]

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/01/romney-gives-unemployed-woman-cash-on-ropeline/

SUMTER, S.C. — Amid shaking hands and signing campaign posters, Mitt Romney did something he has never done before on the ropeline: He took out his wallet and handed a wad of cash to a woman waiting to shake his hand.

The woman, 55-year-old Ruth Williams, says she has been following the Romney campaign since he arrived in the state on Jan. 11, when she said she received a message from God to track him down.

“I was on the highway praying and said, ‘God just show me how to get [my] lights on,’ and I pulled up to a stop sign and his bus was there,” said Williams, who has been unemployed since last October. “And then God said, ‘Follow the bus,’ and I followed the bus to the airport.”

According to Williams, she followed the campaign bus to the Columbia airport on Wednesday, the same day Romney was arriving from New Hampshire. When Romney wasn’t on the bus, aides told her to go to the rally scheduled in Columbia later that day. When she showed up, Romney found her to say hello and pulled over South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley to say “hello” too.

“He was kind to me and he made Gov. Haley come see about me,” Williams said. “He stopped doing everything.”

Williams, who would not specify how much money Romney gave her, said also that South Carolina Treasurer Curtis Loftis paid her light bill on Thursday. A spokesman for Loftis, one of Romney’s major endorses in the state, confirmed to ABC News that he paid Williams’ bill. While Loftis didn’t know the amount of the bill, he confirmed that he gave her $150.

“God didn’t tell me to go to nobody else, he told me to pray for Romney,” said Williams, when asked why she has decided to support Romney. “I listened to the Lord.”

Williams said she has been volunteering at Romney’s Columbia headquarters since meeting his bus last week.

“I’ve been working at his campaign office cleaning and just doing little things,” she said.

“They really did, they really came through for real,” she said.

While Williams would not specify how much money Romney gave her, a campaign spokesman said that he believes Romney gave the woman between $50 and $60.

[Stoney Mason]

Surprised at how easily it looks like Romney will  win South Carolina. I thought the rest of the field despite how weak it was would put up more of a fight since this one determines the nomination essentially.

[T-Short]

You should tell your uncle that a wise man once told you "Equality comes from voluntary acceptance of each other like in sports."

fixed

[Phoenix Dark]

GAME CHANGER

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Will it have more or less impact than Kelly Clarkson's endorsement!?!?

[Stoney Mason]

Huntsman is dropping out and gonna endorse Mitt on Monday.


Many many many months ago someone who's interested in American Politics but not American asked me about the republican candidates. I told them I couldn't really answer objectively since I'm liberal but all of the candidates were crazy people to me except Huntsman who seemed sane. I then said that alone would make sure he could never get the nomination.

[Human Snorenado]

Yeah, Huntsman was gambling that there were enough sane Republicans left who just wanted to keep beating the poor and middle class down without all of that TEH SOCLIASIZM, BIRF CERTIFICATE, KEEP THE GUBMINT OUT OF MY MEDICARE.  Oh Jonny, did you back the wrong horse.

[Phoenix Dark]

I guess Huntsman figures he'll be "next up" in 2016 assuming Romney loses. But 2016 will see a pretty potent crop of governors running most likely, from Chris Christie to Bob McDonnell (who should be Romney's VP choice imo). If Huntsman couldn't stand out in a field of crazy people, how will he stand out in a field of less-crazy people

[TakingBackSunday]

Huntsman should run as an independent.  I wouldn't mind voting for him.

[Human Snorenado]

Huntsman's not REALLY going to do anything your garden variety Republican wouldn't do either.  He still believes in trickle down economics; while not outright hostile to TEH GAYZ he's not going to go out of his way to help them; and his foreign policy would be worse than Obama's.  His thing is that he isn't part of the whole SOCIALIZM, BIRF CERTIFICATES, THE URF IS 6,000 YEARS OLD! wing of the party, but let's be honest- while Obama has been disappointing, if you care about anything on the left side of the spectrum you're not going to get it better with Huntsman.

[Phoenix Dark]

Huntsman was a very conservative governor. Just because he supports civil unions and believes in science doesn't mean he's a complete moderate

[TakingBackSunday]

Huntsman's not REALLY going to do anything your garden variety Republican wouldn't do either.  He still believes in trickle down economics; while not outright hostile to TEH GAYZ he's not going to go out of his way to help them; and his foreign policy would be worse than Obama's.  His thing is that he isn't part of the whole SOCIALIZM, BIRF CERTIFICATES, THE URF IS 6,000 YEARS OLD! wing of the party, but let's be honest- while Obama has been disappointing, if you care about anything on the left side of the spectrum you're not going to get it better with Huntsman.

Well, I mean if Obama wasn't running, I'd vote for Huntsman.  I still believe in Obama.

[Human Snorenado]

I don't, still not sure if I'm gonna bother to vote.

[TakingBackSunday]

what state do you live in again?

[Human Snorenado]

what state do you live in again?

NC.  If it's close I guess I'll vote.