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Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #18300 on:** August 18, 2012, 03:31:56 AM »

Actually I thought T-Paw escaped. She didn't really press hard enough on the Ryan budget having the same cuts, and relied a bit too much on legislative jargon. The simplest way to handle this is:

1. If Obama "stole" from Medicare, does that mean Ryan "stole" from Medicare too since he has the exact same cuts in his budget?

2. *explanation of 716b Medicare cuts in layman terms (Medicare Advantage, hospital reimbursement cuts which hospitals agreed on, etc)*

3. Please explain "premium support program" ie giving people a sum of money to buy insurance. IE a voucher...

Oblivion · « **Reply #18301 on:** August 18, 2012, 04:18:42 AM »

Quote from: Boogie on August 17, 2012, 10:35:44 AM

13% on tens of millions per year, and screaming bloody murder on the prospect of bumping that up by a percent or two.

In the meantime, in soviet canuckistan, I pay in the neighborhood of 30% income tax on 85k a year, and somehow our society is not crumbling to dust.

"bu-bu-but you can't raise taxes on JOB CREATORS! Then they won't create jobs!"

America's unemployment rate: 8.3%

Canada's unemployment rate: 7.3%

How full of shit are Republicans? Soo full of shit.

But...you're not a job creator so it doesn't count.

Oblivion · « **Reply #18302 on:** August 18, 2012, 05:36:32 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on August 18, 2012, 12:06:28 AM

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/soledad-obrien-calls-out-rep-chaffetz-saying

wow

My little cutie pie, Soledad's been doing a great job this week. But as far as the medicare cuts go, she (and many others in fairness) are needlessly complication the issue. Here's a much better way to make the argument in favor of Obama, courtesy of ma boy, Steve Benen:

http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/08/17/13335003-missing-the-medicare-forest-for-the-trees?lite

Oh, also:

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/soledad-obrien-grills-president-of-group-accusing-obama-of-leaking-info-taking-credit-for-bin-laden-raid/

Oblivion · « **Reply #18303 on:** August 19, 2012, 01:07:46 AM »

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #18304 on:** August 19, 2012, 04:17:35 AM »

something tells me there's a republican version of that type of video, just less articulate. The mere thought makes it impossible for me to enjoy this video

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #18305 on:** August 19, 2012, 08:18:09 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on August 19, 2012, 04:17:35 AM

something tells me there's a republican version of that type of video, just less articulate. The mere thought makes it impossible for me to enjoy this video

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #18306 on:** August 19, 2012, 12:44:56 PM »

straight from the Oval Office. yup

I wouldn't be surprised if the WH leaked the Kill List info, but suggesting they're willingly releasing actionable intelligence that puts soldiers/agents at risk is pathetic.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #18307 on:** August 19, 2012, 01:24:07 PM »

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Joe Molotov · « **Reply #18308 on:** August 19, 2012, 03:41:37 PM »

Haha, wow, check out this assclown Todd Akin. He thinks that all schools should be privitized (poor kids can go work in the fields) and that women can't get pregnant from rape (he's talked to some doctors).

compassionate conservatism

brawndolicious · « **Reply #18309 on:** August 19, 2012, 05:45:21 PM »

^polls show he'll win too.

Positive Touch · « **Reply #18310 on:** August 19, 2012, 06:01:39 PM »

oh god todd akin. sad thing is that he's not even that bad compared to so many other missouri republicans.

Quote from: am nintenho on August 19, 2012, 05:45:21 PM

^polls show he'll win too.

please god do not let this happen

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #18311 on:** August 19, 2012, 06:06:23 PM »

Quote from: am nintenho on August 19, 2012, 05:45:21 PM

^polls show he'll win too.

His lead is shrinking. I'm no fan of McCaskill but hopefully this gives her some momentum

tiesto · « **Reply #18312 on:** August 19, 2012, 06:20:21 PM »

Quote from: Joe Molotov® EDGE™ on August 18, 2012, 12:19:14 AM

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on August 18, 2012, 12:06:28 AM
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/soledad-obrien-calls-out-rep-chaffetz-saying

wow

Soledad O'Brien is on fire. That's like the second time in two days that she's called out some Republican stooge on their medicare bullcrap.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-ostroy/soledad-interview-journalism-school_b_1778181.html

Edit: Actually, I guess it's the third. Looks like she had T-Paw on the other day to talk medicare as well.

Soledad graduated from my HS... I think one of my neighbors took her to senior prom, even

Oblivion · « **Reply #18313 on:** August 19, 2012, 07:05:16 PM »

Quote from: Joe Molotov® EDGE™ on August 19, 2012, 03:41:37 PM

Haha, wow, check out this assclown Todd Akin. He thinks that all schools should be privitized (poor kids can go work in the fields) and that women can't get pregnant from rape (he's talked to some doctors).

compassionate conservatism

Quote from: Dana Loesch

Was Akin's "misspeech" ridiculous? Of course. Is it worse than the misdeeds of his opponent, Claire McCaskill, who rubber-stamps Obama's war on Missouri coal jobs and tripled our deficit? Not by conservative standards, or any real standard of measurement.

Mandark · « **Reply #18314 on:** August 19, 2012, 10:27:11 PM »

Ugh.

It's not like this is even theoretical, cause there's a depressing history of war rape that results in a lot of unwanted (and in some cases even forced) pregnancies, and a lot's been written about how the victims and their communities have dealt with the resulting children.

Saying stuff like that is such a cruel, selfish, sort of ignorance. I think this is very relevant.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #18315 on:** August 20, 2012, 09:12:59 AM »

Yesterday, my father in law said to me that if Obama wins again that we will see $10 a gallon of gas as punishment by the oil companies. So vote for Romney to avoid being punished by them.

$:-\$

tiesto · « **Reply #18316 on:** August 20, 2012, 09:20:55 AM »

Mupepe · « **Reply #18317 on:** August 20, 2012, 09:52:02 AM »

Quote from: Zero Hero on August 20, 2012, 09:12:59 AM

Yesterday, my father in law said to me that if Obama wins again that we will see $10 a gallon of gas as punishment by the oil companies. So vote for Romney to avoid being punished by them. $:-\$

Texas is full of these type of people

Himu · « **Reply #18318 on:** August 20, 2012, 01:54:29 PM »

Quote from: Zero Hero on August 20, 2012, 09:12:59 AM

Yesterday, my father in law said to me that if Obama wins again that we will see $10 a gallon of gas as punishment by the oil companies. So vote for Romney to avoid being punished by them. $:-\$

ahahahahahaha welcome to my life

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #18319 on:** August 20, 2012, 04:44:40 PM »

Really glad I live in Western Washington, those kind of people still exist, but they're the minority.

tiesto · « **Reply #18320 on:** August 20, 2012, 10:14:10 PM »

My department had to shuffle cubicles around and now I get the pleasure of hearing some neocon coworkers talk about "Obama taking my guns away!" and "Obama wants to take money from those who earned it and give out more handouts and foodstamps!". I mean, I do work in a heavily Republican-leaning industry but there are a few fellow liberals hanging around keeping a low profile

Positive Touch · « **Reply #18321 on:** August 20, 2012, 11:11:08 PM »

start listening to librul talk radio really loud, and when the dudes come by to argue just go "shhhhh! listen" and point to the radio. they'll walk away

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #18322 on:** August 20, 2012, 11:19:37 PM »

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Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #18323 on:** August 20, 2012, 11:25:09 PM »

Quote from: Positive Touch on August 20, 2012, 11:11:08 PM

start listening to librul talk radio really loud, and when the dudes come by to argue just go "shhhhh! listen" and point to the radio. they'll walk away

Listen to NPR, it will drive them even more insane since they're paying for it.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #18324 on:** August 20, 2012, 11:25:30 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on August 20, 2012, 11:19:37 PM

NBA Campaign Donors
http://hoopshype.com/campaign.htm

(Image removed from quote.)

The only person on there that I'm actually surprised by is Pop.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #18325 on:** August 20, 2012, 11:26:11 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on August 20, 2012, 11:23:14 PM

himu-chan, you have some genuine lunatics on your facebook

Yeah, sorry about going full distinguished mentally-challenged fellow on her.

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Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #18326 on:** August 20, 2012, 11:34:28 PM »

Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on August 20, 2012, 11:26:11 PM

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on August 20, 2012, 11:23:14 PM
himu-chan, you have some genuine lunatics on your facebook

Yeah, sorry about going full distinguished mentally-challenged fellow on her.

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She beat you to it.

Mandark · « **Reply #18327 on:** August 20, 2012, 11:41:08 PM »

Different one, apparently. Himu just seems to draw a certain type to him

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #18328 on:** August 21, 2012, 01:22:39 AM »

Just found out one of the soldiers killed in the helicopter attack in Afghanistan last week is my buddy's step-brother. :'(

Mandark · « **Reply #18329 on:** August 21, 2012, 01:29:24 AM »

So so sorry.

A coworker of mine has a brother who enlisted and shipped off recently, she keeps telling me stories with phrases like "and if he hadn't rolled out of bed, he would have been killed by the mortar." It has to be tough having that creeping in the back of your mind all the time.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #18330 on:** August 21, 2012, 01:46:23 AM »

sorry to hear that gundam :'(

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #18331 on:** August 21, 2012, 01:58:16 AM »

I feel for my buddy. He's having a really hard time with it.

http://blogs.seattletimes.com/today/2012/08/soldier-from-des-moines-died-in-black-hawk-in-afghanistan/

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #18332 on:** August 21, 2012, 01:16:41 PM »

what the fuck is happening with the GOP right now

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #18333 on:** August 21, 2012, 01:38:10 PM »

The biggest hail mary pass of all time, and given this economy it just might work

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #18334 on:** August 21, 2012, 01:55:41 PM »

stop that maurice

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #18335 on:** August 21, 2012, 02:13:38 PM »

How am I wrong? Ryan as VP, super anti-abortion stances, not even basic gay rights acknowledgements, no immigration support...they're going all in. In a normal election this would be suicide. But in an election during a bad economy, two years after local GOP parties took over multiple states in the aftermath of a Census? Mix in the billions of corporate donations and it's clear they're going for all the marbles. They either win in the face of demographic shifts, or lose big.

tiesto · « **Reply #18336 on:** August 21, 2012, 04:59:17 PM »

Yeah, it's like the Republican party finally took Bush's vapid and transparent "compassionate conservatism" and chucked it to the wayside, being absolutely blatant what they stand for - fucking over the poor and middle class, fucking over the seniors on medicare, anti women, anti gay, anti minority, anti immigration. Basically, anti anybody who is not a rich old white man. Totally agree that this is one last "hail mary" for the modern-day Republican party, before demographic changes render them completely unelectable and irrelevant.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #18337 on:** August 21, 2012, 05:11:51 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on August 21, 2012, 02:13:38 PM

How am I wrong? Ryan as VP, super anti-abortion stances, not even basic gay rights acknowledgements, no immigration support...they're going all in. In a normal election this would be suicide. But in an election during a bad economy, two years after local GOP parties took over multiple states in the aftermath of a Census? Mix in the billions of corporate donations and it's clear they're going for all the marbles. They either win in the face of demographic shifts, or lose big.

This is the white man's last stand.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #18338 on:** August 21, 2012, 05:37:49 PM »

The GOP fading away into irrelevance is a masturbatory fantasy: they'll adjust as needed and adjusting doesn't necessarily mean things like universal health care either.

I agree with PD that this is a hail mary: crap economy, likely low or decreased youth voter turnout versus 2008, and they successfully browbeat a virtual Democratic supermajority with significant public backing into one of the biggest Democratic loss since 1994. That and in spite of a really shitty campaign by Romney, Obama and Romney are almost tied. I can't fault them for going all in because even if they lose the Presidential election, they will likely pick up the Senate and retain the House. This is as close to a perfect storm for them as it is going to get.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #18339 on:** August 21, 2012, 05:45:11 PM »

Just wait until they figure out that if they stopped being distinguished mentally-challenged about immigration, they'd probably get a ton of the conservative latino vote.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #18340 on:** August 21, 2012, 09:01:18 PM »

Is there video of the GOP speaker dropping the N bomb on TV when talking about "urban folks" stealing ballots out of mailboxes at today's party platform meeting?

Positive Touch · « **Reply #18341 on:** August 21, 2012, 09:04:51 PM »

whaaaaaaat??? please be so

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #18342 on:** August 21, 2012, 09:09:21 PM »

THE SHERIFF IS A *CLANG*

It was bound to happen.

Himu · « **Reply #18343 on:** August 21, 2012, 09:10:46 PM »

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on August 21, 2012, 09:01:18 PM

Is there video of the GOP speaker dropping the N bomb on TV when talking about "urban folks" stealing ballots out of mailboxes at today's party platform meeting?

omg

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #18344 on:** August 21, 2012, 09:18:06 PM »

I can't find anything about it anywhere. Guess I'll check KOS, if anyone has it it would be them.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #18345 on:** August 21, 2012, 09:18:18 PM »

on SA a few people were saying that someone said "these nig ----- urban types are stealing ballots from mailboxes!!!!" but I want to see it with my own eyes

c span is gonna put it all up on their site I guess but it doesnt run on the ipad. It was when they were talking about voter ID and shit

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #18346 on:** August 21, 2012, 09:27:06 PM »

So was it just some random person? When you said the speaker, I thought you meant John Boehner.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #18347 on:** August 21, 2012, 09:29:06 PM »

it was some party representative important enough to be at their televised party platform framing meeting. if it happened id like to see it

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #18348 on:** August 21, 2012, 09:35:15 PM »

If it's on tape it will get out there. If it's not on tape, then it won't become an urban myth like the Michelle Obama "whitey" tape because there is no Andrew Breitbart equivalent on the left. Sadly.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #18349 on:** August 21, 2012, 10:33:24 PM »

Some guy who lives about 20 miles south of Seattle was arrested tonight by the Secret Service due to making death threats against Obama. I'm guessing this happens regularly, but doesn't make national news.

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/komo/article/Federal-Way-man-arrested-for-allegedly-3805293.php

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #18350 on:** August 22, 2012, 02:38:22 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on August 16, 2012, 04:50:30 AM

I think it's a null-entendre.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #18351 on:** August 22, 2012, 05:12:51 PM »

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/08/tom_head_civil_war.php?ref=fpnewsfeed

We gotta raise taxes because....UN BLACK HELICOPTERS!!!

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #18352 on:** August 22, 2012, 05:21:43 PM »

What's the deal with Obama's second term? I just cannot wrap my head around the kind of fiery mental hoops that have be jumped through to get to that kind of thinking.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #18353 on:** August 22, 2012, 05:22:06 PM »

haha @ the beltway folks looking disgusted

Brehvolution · « **Reply #18354 on:** August 22, 2012, 05:40:51 PM »

Positive Touch · « **Reply #18355 on:** August 22, 2012, 05:47:56 PM »

BITCHES LEAVE

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #18356 on:** August 22, 2012, 05:57:59 PM »

Haha, that old bitty is pissed off. She's just trying to suck Paul Ryan's dick over here, and then this angry black man just jumps in and gets all rambunctious. This is SERIOUS business, Mr. Distinguished Black Fellow!

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #18357 on:** August 22, 2012, 06:54:53 PM »

I think Ryan is a better pick than Palin (because let's be real), but it's truly amazing the mental gymnastics the GOP is performing to support this man.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #18358 on:** August 22, 2012, 07:00:32 PM »

I actually think Ryan is a worse pick than Palin. I wouldn't be surprised if the GOP paymasters forced Ryan (or strongly suggested) onto Romney.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #18359 on:** August 22, 2012, 07:29:40 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on August 22, 2012, 06:54:53 PM

I think Ryan is a better pick than Palin (because let's be real)

Palin was a yapping dog, annoying and loud but totally harmless. Everybody knew from the start that she was never going to play any role in policy-making. Ryan is polarizing and genuinely despised by a lot of people, in large part because of how dangerous his policies and positions are.

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